Open Gameday Thread, March 1
Colletti: Under the radar. Patience. That's how we have to do this.
Sabean: You didn't trade a single prospect this winter. Not a one. I understand the art of subtlety, but cripes, man. If your plan is to sabotage a farm system, you're going about it an interesting fashion.
Colletti: If it makes you happy, I'll execute Plan Indigo.
Sabean: Oh! Uh, yes, by all means!
Colletti: You don't have to trade a farm system away to ruin the value of young players.
Dodgers appear interested in Tigers' Inge.
I'd also like the Giants to get their grubby little paws on Andy LaRoche.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
by Lyle on
Mar 1, 2008 9:55 AM PST
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laroche..
Of course, if the Dodgers were going to go all Mariners about it trade him for peanuts, I'd be on that trade like white on rice.
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Mar 1, 2008 9:57 AM PST
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
How about this blockbuster: I have a vision of the Giants only losing 90 this year, instead of the expected 125.
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Mar 1, 2008 10:46 AM PST
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Proverbs: The Lost Chapter and Verse
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Re: Proverbs: The Lost Chapter and Verse
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oh man
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Re: oh man
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It would be bittersweet
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
Basically the report says he has power when he's healthy (like now, coming off surgery to repair a torn labrum in 2006), is big and slow, and the guy who wrote the report estimated Harper would arrive in MLB in 2009. Isn't great defensively at first. The report was written in December so it's fairly recent.
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First Giants announcers of the year.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
-D
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Mar 1, 2008 11:49 AM PST
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Andy LaRoche..
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Re: Andy LaRoche..
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Re: Andy LaRoche..
-D
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Age
Linden's 1st year in the pros was at age 22. At age 22, Linden had an OPS of 888 at AA in the Texas league, relative to a league average of 716.
At 22, 2003, in AAA, 755 OPS in 120 PA, in the PCL, relative to a league average of 761.
At 23, 2003, in AAA, 747 OPS in 511 PA, in the PCL, relative to a league average of 747.
At 24, in AAA, 810 OPS in 552 PA, in the PCL, relative to a league average of 799.
At 25, his breakout year, in AAA, 1119 OPS in 415 PAs, relative to a league average of 792.
At 26, 834 OPS in 221 PA in AAA, relative to a league average of 757.
At 27, in only 57 PAs in AAA, 1016 OPS.
At age 22, Laroche had an OPS of 905 at AA in the Southern league, relative to a league average of 690.
At AAA in the PCL, also aged 22, Laroche had an OPS 950, relative to a league average of 757.
At age 23, AAA in the PCL, Laroche had an OPS of 988, league average of 783.
It took Linden until age 25, to do what Laroche did in AAA, at ages 22-23.
They are NOT somewhat "similar".
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Re: Age
-D
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Re: Age
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Re: Age
Of course, I can see the other viewpoint too.
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Dude
I could have just said age to level and left it at that, and left people to go look up both their stats. I just chose to justify my point.
And really, this is hardly a case of 99% accuracy. The gap between the 2 in terms of age is large.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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I know how you feel..
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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You probably won't miss much...
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I want a hot dog again :-(
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Wow can't think and type at the same time...
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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So last year..
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Why didn't we pick him up to play 1B?
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Oooooo
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Why isn't Omar play....
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Gotta love the Giants pitchers..
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Re: Gotta love the Giants pitchers..
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I don't want to.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Re: Correction: 6R, 4H
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Hey Natto..
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Re: Hey Natto..
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
Is there anything he can't do?
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I'm not trowing strikes yet...
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
--Jon Miller
Thank God for JM.
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Jon Miller...
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Re: Jon Miller...
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
-Kuip.
At least it will be a humorous season.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
i expect to here that one a lot.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
"Passed the diving [giant's infielder]."
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
"It's a routine grounder, but...the Giants infield has the Statue of Liberty Play on...Base hit!"
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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So who's pitching now?
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Re: So who's pitching now?
(pronounced "duck")
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Re: So who's pitching now?
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I can't believe this name wasn't registered...
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Re: I can't believe this name wasn't registered...
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Re: I can't believe this name wasn't registered...
get it together rook!
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Speed.
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Re: Speed.
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Re: ORT ORT ORT
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
You have another 6 years to reach that conclusion
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Ahhhh Spring Training games...
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Not enough spirit.
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Re: Not enough spirit.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
This is so good for the team, you guys. You have no idea.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Big Guy isn't pitching very well.
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Heh
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Is Kruk around somewhere?
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
"I did."
"On the fly or on the bounce?"
"Well either one."
This is awesome. The only thing I could hope for would be if Lon Simmons was broadcasting with Miller.
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Boy...
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Jon Miller...
Talking about Velez.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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I was going to make up this great picture...
"I HAVE RUNS!"
But there were a couple problems.
- I couldn't find a picture like that.
- The Giants don't have runs. Well at least the kind I was talking about. They just have the other kind I was talking about.
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anybody know....
you'd think it'd be right up his alley
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Haven't heard of it...
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Re: anybody know....
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Yikes

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Zito thought...
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
a's....a rebuilding club, filled with aaa and aa players, and they crush the multimillion dollar zen master
our lineup made up of crafty vets cant get a hit off 2 aaa level pitchers
sabean must be good at doleing out bjs
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Todd Linden...
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Miller:
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
As if there was any doubt.
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Re: FREDDIE!
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Re: STEVE HOLM!
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
tastes like losing.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
wonder if he starts back in norwich
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On the brighter side
- Bowker with a three hits
- Ortmeier getting off the schneid
- FDog with with a couple of ribbies and on base again
- Wilson and Threets pitching scoreless innings
- Velez with a couple of more hits and playing 3b
- Schierholtz with a couple of SFs
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Re: FDog?
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Re: FDog?
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That was traumatic!
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Re: That was traumatic!
SF: there is no good team there.
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First Aid for the demoralized
(Pats Lyle, right there, on his punkin head).
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Re: That was traumatic!
I might have the answer to that question... :P
But as the topic goes, aside from last year hasn't the series record between the two teams (at least since interleague) been split pretty much perfectly?
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Re: That was traumatic!
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SF Giants 3b
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Gotta love the mind of Bochy!
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I'm actually happy with Eugenio getting a shot. I just don't like splitting Frandsen's ABs any more than they already are going to be. And I think if Bochy starts getting Velez-happy, Frandsen's bound to suffer.
Then again, the DL could solve all my "crappy veteran" woes....
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A fine idea is stillborn
But how can we trade the Zito contract for the Rowand contract?
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Re: A fine idea is stillborn
Rowand seems to be attempting to earn the contract.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
ain't workin'
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What we learned today
- There's no such thing as a 108.00 ERA, right?
- It's never too late, like banks caught in a subprime lending vortex, to just take a $115 million charge (Zito's remaining contract) against expected income.
- The above figure is the remainder of the brilliant Zito contract orchestrated by Brian Sabean, who was far past his prime a year ago when he wrote the thing.
- Bleeah.
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Re: What we learned today
Optimist's take: That's Robust.
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Re: What we learned today
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
Also, Threets and Wilson looked awesome, and Bowker hit everything in sight.
P.S. Scottsdale is like another world. Lots of wealthy, pretty people.
P.P.S. I'm staying at a hotel that offers free beer between 5 and 7 p.m., so it's like the perfectest day ever.
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Which really dulls the pain of being a Giants fan , lemme tell ya. And no hangover!
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If he survived it, the rogue throw must have been an Eephus pitch.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
After one game at Stade de Scottsdale in 2006 I was physically accosted, high fived, and told I have nice tits. All on the same stairwell, by different people. It's a weird place for sure.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Mar 1, 2008 8:54 PM PST
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Mar 1, 2008 9:07 PM PST
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
by tk on
Mar 1, 2008 11:35 PM PST
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They're right.
Pass that bottle here , Boozer...
by victor frankenstein on
Mar 1, 2008 9:50 PM PST
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Re: They're right.
I got what you need!
Booze, ciggys, hookers, blow...I'm your man!!
Whatever you do, don't come 'round here spewing this bullshit pitching and defense shit. I don't peddle to those without a sense of reality.
by PacBellBoozer on
Mar 2, 2008 10:54 AM PST
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Re: They're right.
by howtheyscored on
Mar 2, 2008 11:00 AM PST
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Re: They're right.

My Sherpa contacts have told me with confidence that this thing is was hand stitched on the top of a mountainous peak somewhere. Supposedly, Bobby Kielty decided to trim that mess of his.

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Mar 2, 2008 11:11 AM PST
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Re: They're right.
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Mar 2, 2008 11:22 AM PST
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Re: They're right.
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
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Mar 2, 2008 1:54 AM PST
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Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1
Davis, LF .167
Velez, 3B .455
Rowand, CF .500
Ortmeier, 1B .333
Alfonzo, C .000
Frandsen, SS .125
Lewis, RF .600
Denker, T, 2B .333
Cain, P
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