alt.reality.sf-giants
BallHype is running a "what-if" series, asking bloggers what single event they'd change in their team's history. Because thinking too much hurts my brain, I chose one of the more obvious examples. And because writing too much also hurts my brain, this counts as my post for the day.
But it does come with a nifty comment starter! Free! And it's painfully obvious!
Comment starter: If you could change one event in franchise history, what would it be? Bonus points if you can do one without mentioning Felix Rodriguez, Bobby Richardson, or Jose Cruz, Jr., though those memories are always good for a chuckle.
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My more pedestian single moment would be Cruz Jr. catching that damn fly ball.
by Goofus on Jan 7, 2008 10:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Flog on , Chief!
by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2008 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by out machine on Jan 7, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Bitter Fan on Jan 7, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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AT&T/PBP/SBC/ETC is a gem. Living in London now (but over for X-mas) I miss the place. I walked past the stadium the other day and it's just the most wonderful place to be.
by Bitter Fan on Jan 7, 2008 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by groug on Jan 7, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, just off the top of my head...
Because of this, Hindenburg goes to the Dodgers.
After a brilliant set-up job by Accardo, Blowmeatz comes into a game and strikes out Hindenburg during some important Giants Dodgers game that takes place due in some way to signing Vlad.
The whole team/city is so blown away by this that they throw Armondo a victory feast entitled "He Did His Job". Unfortunately, after his 10th cheeseburger, he suffers a massive heart attack.
But, because I don't wish death on him just for being some ass*ole who can't pitch and talks sh*t, he recovers, retires to the Caribbean, and founds some baseball school from which the Giants gain multiple Villalona's for years to come.
How's that for alternate?
by Andy from DC on Jan 7, 2008 11:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Hell, let's just round it out to $100M.
If the Giants sign Vlad, they have the best 1-2 punch in baseball and avoid the litany of over-the-hill veteran free agent signings.
by Lincecum Cain Then Pray For Rain on Jan 7, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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- resigning Jeff Kent instead of sending him off to clean monster trucks....errrrrrr popping wheelies on motorcycles, leaving us with a perennial hamstring problem.
- AJ was never born and somebody had the forethought to try Nathan at the closer spot.
- The Lesbians that got kicked out of Chaves Latrine came back with a car bomb a month later. (of course there are a lot of Dodger Fans that would like this to happen)
- Sabian kicks one too many tires, loses a toe, retires, and Ned Colletti takes over.
- They lowered the cost of Beer at the stadium at the beginning of last year... I know that doesn't have anything to do with the club per say, but it sure would have made it more bearable making the roadie up there to watch that abortion of a season.
by HarshInFresno on Jan 7, 2008 11:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by HarshInFresno on Jan 8, 2008 8:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Sabean is no good, but neither is Colletti. The Dodgers success can be traced to two things, the farm system and DePodesta's work as GM. Neither of these things can Colletti take credit for, and in fact, he has done everything in his power to waste the resources of his farm system.
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by biff pocoroba on Jan 7, 2008 11:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Jan 7, 2008 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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What if Barry didn't , ah , inflate? Might his knees suffer less?
Savage production through 2005?
by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2008 9:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Skaldheim on Jan 7, 2008 11:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Granted, I'd like for us to have remained a contender after that, but the blow is softened at the very least.
by JRPhillips on Jan 7, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Umm . . .in recent memory, I'll say the Accardo trade was horrible and that it remains to be seen what will become of the Zito signing. I suppose the same could be said of Rowand, who knows . . .
by Anticon23 on Jan 7, 2008 11:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Cardinals - 1
Humm Baby - 0
by BuffyLaCoss on Jan 7, 2008 11:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by San Francisco Seth on Jan 7, 2008 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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A further benefit of that might have been a 12-year-old Joe Nathan watching on TV and saying to himself "If I ever get to the majors, I'll never play in that place - it sucks." That kind of resolve might have helped. Maybe.
My second choice would be the Braves NOT trading for Fred McGriff in 1993. Then our 103 wins would have won the Western Division and gotten us into the NL championship series, instead of only getting us second place. I still dislike the Padres for that salary dump.
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by sfgreg on Jan 7, 2008 11:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by milesntrane on Jan 8, 2008 2:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Go into the 2004 season with Yorvit Torrealba as the starting catcher. Everything else falls into place from here.
by rotorueter on Jan 7, 2008 11:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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I don't know if resigning will would have morphed reality into any Giants' World Series, but I know another few years of the Thrill would have made me a happy fan.
by hammystyle on Jan 7, 2008 11:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Jan 7, 2008 12:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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October 3rd, 1993, Fulton County Stadium, Atlanta.
Liriano (the other one) doubles
Eric Young singles.
Andres Galarraga hits a sharp grounder to Terry Pendleton at 3B, who, dreaming of polishing his MVP trophy, boots the grounder into foul territory. 2 runs score, Galarraga on 2nd.
* Charlie Hayes * singles to right, and Galaragga scores.
Rockies win 6-5. Giants beat Atlanta in 1-game playoff, then crush the Phillies and the Blue Jays.
* Bolded * players are richly rewarded when they become Giants, well past their primes. I am pretty sure Sabean is actually from THIS universe.
by zenbitz on Jan 7, 2008 12:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by daveinexile on Jan 7, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Not that I am bitter about it or anything.
by daveinexile on Jan 7, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If we are talking 1993....
Very early in the season, but we win this and we end up with 104 and a one-game playoff. For some reason I have never forgotten this game, I was 13 that year.
by One Flap Down on Jan 7, 2008 12:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by Kitspool on Jan 7, 2008 1:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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"Dude, you're pitching great and I'd love to reward your performance by giving you a game ball right now, but Nen's shoulder is toast so we've got a short bullpen. Suck it up dude, get a few more outs, then we can celebrate."
by Cleophus on Jan 7, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Cleophus on Jan 8, 2008 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Then she dumps his sorry ass right then and there, points in my direction and says "I'm gonna go have steaming hot monkey sex with that geeky overweight guy right over there."
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jan 7, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Not always impersonal and tacky, my friend. Let's just say that IF I were the person referred to above, THEN my wife definitely would have loved it. She might have even used the picture of the scoreboard as her desktop background on her pooter.
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Jan 7, 2008 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by chefasaurus on Jan 7, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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- She didn't dump me
- It was a big surprise and she loved it
- She doesn't think I'm a douchebag
by Goofus on Jan 7, 2008 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Yes, it takes a very special kind of funny person to take advantage of the world's most obvious setups, jump on them, and make everyone else wish the funny guy just wasn't around.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I'LL BE HERE ALL WEEK!
by JRPhillips on Jan 7, 2008 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Link?
by Grant on Jan 7, 2008 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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I think she doesn't think I'm a douchebag.
by Goofus on Jan 7, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 8, 2008 9:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's weird
- She didn't dump me (benefit of proposing to a married stranger!)
- It was a big surprise
- She thinks I'm a douchebag
- My actual girlfriend was pissed.
by howtheyscored on Jan 7, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Boy was she! I felt like Charlie Sheen in Major League
by Goofus on Jan 7, 2008 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Cookyman on Jan 8, 2008 8:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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("Penisbutter" just sounds silly.)
by Goofus on Jan 8, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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But to force the girl to make that choice with everyone watching, that just doesn't sit right with me. Plus I wish she'd say "no" once or twice to break up the monotony if nothing else.
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jan 7, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lame thread hijack attempt
by Lyle on Jan 8, 2008 6:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Adam on Jan 8, 2008 8:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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However, if someone did propose to me on a scoreboard or in some other embarassing extremely public manner, I'd dump the closest beverage over his head. I'd dump his overpriced beer over his head, even. That'll learn him.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 8, 2008 9:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNBwocVfhXI
by marcello on Jan 8, 2008 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by ResDog on Jan 8, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7141730
by marcello on Jan 8, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That. Rocked.
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jan 8, 2008 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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- Orlando Cepada gets traded earlier in his career for a really good starter, and not Ray Sadecki.
- Gaylord Perry isn't traded for Sam McDowell and his whiskey bottle.
3) Horace Stoneham doesn't trade away a ton of good outfielders because they're not Willie Mays.
And this might be controversial but..
4) Horace Stoneham (and Walter O'Malley) turn down overtures from the West Coast and stay in New York.
I argue this because I think the move of the New York franchises (and the others as well, but obviously the Giants and Dodgers were the seismic shocks) greatly hurt baseball. A lot of very powerful people lost their favorite team, and I think this may have had a negative effect on the health of the game.
But..fear not, because..
5) The PCL franchises are integrated into the Majors.
Go Seals!
by Bitter Fan on Jan 7, 2008 1:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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If we win back-to-back championships like that, the AJ trade is not made and we've got Nathan to close out games to succeed Nen. We'd probably end up trading Boof anyway, Liriano would still have gotten hurt, and we'd be too good to have the draft picks to select Cain and Lincecum, but at least we'd have WON A WORLD SERIES
by joebirdie3 on Jan 7, 2008 1:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Jan 7, 2008 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by JRPhillips on Jan 7, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We HAVE won a World Series.
Hey , we're the new Red Sox!
(Ducks thrown Anchor Steam bottle)
by victor frankenstein on Jan 7, 2008 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by nvsfg on Jan 7, 2008 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Greed , and yeah - the heat of the moment.
So close. So very close.
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by Goofus on Jan 7, 2008 2:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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I think most Niner fans are split on the issue, but I never see a whole lot of people sitting in the middle.
Me, personally, I just don't like the guy, I didn't think he ever had the locker room (especially at the end), and I didn't think it was fun to watch him play... and I was damn spoiled from watching Montana and Young all my life on top of it. But the most basic reasons were I didn't like him and he wasn't fun for me to watch.
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by BuffyLaCoss on Jan 7, 2008 3:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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The Giants win the series. World peace follows, obviously.
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by positiveuphemism on Jan 7, 2008 3:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Anyway, while the others above are good choices and probably more significant to the franchise than what I'm going to offer up, I just like the thought of it: Hank Aaron decides to take the Giants offer instead of the Milwaukee Braves and joins the Giants. With him in RF, Mays in CF, McCovey in LF, Cepeda at 1B, that would have been quite a lineup.
My other thought, just popped up, comes in second, is this: Giants sign Barry Bonds when they drafted him instead of letting him go to college. Nuff said.
My third, just popped up, is this: Giants draft Mark McGwire instead of Alan Cockerell and are somehow able to get McGwire to play adequately at 3B (A's had him there when they brought him up). That means Will Clark at 1B, Robbie Thompson at 2B, Matt Williams at SS, and Mark McGwire at 3B. That with #2, we would have Barry in LF or CF.
Another would be starting Kirk Rueter in game 7 instead of Livan "Little" Hernandez, though obviously Dusty NOT taking out Ortiz is a better route. Given what we know today about Nen's physical health, why, WHY did he go to the bullpen so early when the starting pitcher is doing well?
Lastly, I would offer, Juan Marichial pitching only 1 game in a 7 game series in 1962?!? Since we have hindsight, we know how good he became, still, he was a pretty good pitcher even then, though the Giants had a pretty good staff overall in terms of low ERA (and the other starters did well, to be fair, O'Dell is probably the big question mark since he lost the first game by a big margin). Still, how could they not start him twice at some point?
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There's the game moments, but the bad trades are what stick in my throat: Cepeda for Sadecki, Perry for McDowell, Foster for Duffy, Maddux and Matthews for....oh well, I forget, Jack Clark for 5 stiffs from the Cards, Joe Nathan........holds head in hands sobbing uncontrollably.
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- In the 2002/3 Offseason instead of signing Egardo Alfonzo and Ray Durham for a combined 8 years and $55M the Giants re-sign Jeff Kent for 5 years and $45M and give the 3B job to Pedro Feliz a couple of years earlier.
- In the 2003/4 Offseason instead of the trade that shell not be mentioned the Giants just give the starting catcher job to Yorvit Torrealba and the closer job to Joe Nathan.
- In the 2003/4 Offseason instead of the mass of mediocrity signings Sabean used as an excuse to not sign Vlad Sabean beats the Angels offer with a 6 year and $90M offer.
- In the 2004/5 Offseason there is no need to sign Benitez, Alou, or Matheny.
- In the 2005/6 Offseason there is no need to sign Morris.
- In the 2006/7 Offseason there is no need to sign Dave Roberts.
- Inspite of Barry Bonds injuries in 2005 and reduced playing time in 2006 and 2007 the Giants extend their streak of playoff apearances from two straight (2002 and 2003) to six straight adding (2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007).
- In these 6 straight playoff appearances the Giants win their first World Series in San Francisco in 2004 and then win two more back to back in 2006 and 2007 to even the SF World Series record at 3 Wins and 3 Loses.
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by positiveuphemism on Jan 8, 2008 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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:-)
That said, 5 years vs 2 years should have been more then enough to get Kent to stay with the Giants instead of go to the Astros. Further, I never bought into Vlad not liking Alou. In fact I have heard the opposite that Vlad's Mom loved Felipe, wanted Vlad to play for him again, and Vlad is a Momma's boy that tended very much to listen to his mother.
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Mark Ibanez went on record on KNBR during one of his fill-in gigs that Kent told him in the parking lot after game 5 of the WS that he would never play there again. Kent had already made up his mind to leave. We offered him a better deal than the Astros, anyway, and he refused. He was gone gone gone.
As for Vlad...who knows. I heard he loved Felipe when we got Felipe then a couple year ago I heard that Vlad did not like playing under Felipe and would not have signed with us as a result. The truth may never be known.
The Kent thing...that's true. I don't remember the exact quote but it was along the lines of "You can kiss my ass goodbye cuz I'm never coming back." It just drives me nuts that all these people on this site still think we could have resigned him.
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Besides, if we offered him more money, wouldn't the Astros, just up their offer? They could still remain below our offer because Kent STILL didn't want to play here. He hated Bonds, he hated Dusty (also on his way out the door)... A bad enough experience can completely sully what was good. I don't believe the hype that more money would have gotten Kent to stick it out.
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So I guess we need to agree to just accept this disagreement. I don't think enough was done to keep Kent and you don't think anything could have been done to keep Kent.
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by positiveuphemism on Jan 8, 2008 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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My point is, you're right. He gave up. He didn't want to come back, and the only thing that MIGHT have changed his mind would have been giving him such crazy money that the Giants would have been the laughing stock of all pro sports. And at the time, not five years later, every Giants fan knew he wasn't coming back. This sort of revisionist history is almost as bad as the "We shouldn't have traded Livo because look what he did after he left" revision.
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A sort of related to baseball alt-reality proposal: Actually talking to the cute boy Cardinals fan who tried flirting with me at a game in 2005. It was a mid July night and foggy as Hades, and I went with two friends who ended up getting married to each other the next year. How about that? Sitting in the arcade, I wrote up the lineups on my scorecard and this attractive young man (aka, a regulation hottie) wearing a Cardinals cap kept trying to flirt with me. I'm exceptionally dense when it comes to the male intention and how it relates to me, plus I was even more of a hardass then about how sports events=sports events, no flirting, dating, kissy face, and all that allowed. I broke my own rule later in 2006, but whatever. I totally shut him down...complete ice queen act. Later when we left the ballpark my friends asked me why I didn't flirt back with Cute Cardinals boy and now I realize I was a stupid ugly moron with an ugly face and my butt smells and I like to kiss my own butt.
So I'd like to change that and actually have been nice to Cute Cardinals Boy. I blame that night of poor judgement on why I am cursed in dating now. It's the universe cashing in the bad karma generated from shutting him down for no good reason other than me being a failure.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 8, 2008 9:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
See?
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by Angry Mike on Jan 8, 2008 9:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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I just want to see Bonds hit that last AB over that center field fence. That's all I want. It would have been so remarkably, symmetrically, legendarily perfect. That's all I want. One AB in a completely meaningless game.
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- Barry had full no trade rights both in his contract and by being a 10 and 5 player.
- Giants Fans would have lynched Giant management and ownership if this had happened.
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