An Open Letter to Jay Mariotti
Dear Jay,
I believe Barry Bonds gained an unfair advantage by using performance-enhancing drugs. That was an advantage not everyone was willing to take, and that makes Bonds's decision an ethically questionable one. On Saturday, I stood and applauded every time Bonds came up to bat. In my mind, there isn't a conflict between the two points. I must be one of those unconditionally glorifying sheep about whom you were writing. I am wearing wool socks, and I do enjoy a good salad. Guilty as charged.
Do you really think that this scenario would only play out in the San Francisco Bay Area? Is this specific region of the country the only place where Bonds's career would be glorified? If that's your position, don't worry about anything that follows this paragraph. We're done. If you truly believe that the affection the San Francisco fans have for Bonds after 15 seasons wouldn't be the same affection felt in Boston, Chicago, or Atlanta if that were where Bonds had spent the bulk of his career, you lack the critical thinking skills needed for honest debate.
If you concede the point that it isn't just a regional sickness that leads us to cheer for Bonds, then you can understand why it's silly to single out the fans in San Francisco as "unconditionally glorifying sheep." Have you ever pondered why a baseball fan would cheer for Barry Bonds? Here's a condensed answer: The Giants almost moved to Florida after 1992. Instead, they opened the following season in San Francisco after acquiring the best player in baseball. Since then, that player has done more positive things on the field for his team than any other player in baseball. Good things for the team lead to good feelings for the fan.
That's it. You can break it down psychologically or chemically if you want, but the end result is the same. Good things for the team lead to good feelings for the fan. After 15 years of watching Bonds do amazing things on the ballfield, we've grown attached to him. He's had us all hopped up on mood-enhancing chemicals (MECs) for years, and now he's the easiest target in the history of yellow baseball journalism. So we defend him and continue to cheer.
To the San Francisco fan, the performance-enhancing drug debate extends beyond Bonds. To the folks who want to sell newspapers and television advertising slots, the debate stops at Bonds. That's unfortunate. The list of players who have been caught is underwhelming. Manny Alexander? Mike Morse? Jamal Strong? More than half of the suspensions from Major League Baseball have been handed out to pitchers, three of whom (Ryan Franklin, Guillermo Mota, and Felix Heredia) have served up homers to Bonds. If performance-enhancing drugs helped, they certainly weren't magic.
Some have opined that the main benefit from the drugs comes from the improved stamina; as in, the drugs didn't create a super-Ryan Franklin, it just allowed Ryan Franklin to be Ryan Franklin at peak Ryan Franklin condition for a longer period of time. Maybe it did make a super-Ryan Franklin. I don't think any of us would be able to tell. If you want to do some hand-wringing in the name of moral superiority, think about the roster spot Franklin occupied over the years. He'll get a pension. He'll have a baseball card to show his kids. Did that come at the expense of someone who wasn't willing to take PEDs? That's a bigger question of morality than anything to do with some intangible number. And we don't really think about it much in San Francisco. It gets in the way of baseball. And grazing. We can never forget the delicious, delicious grazing.
This is all a part of why we still root for Bonds. He made us cheer over and over and over again - both before and after he bulked up - and now he's being attacked as if he was the only one who took performance-enhancing drugs. He wasn't. He batted against other users, and he lost to teams built around other users. Every other fan base would wave the same collective middle finger back at the rest of the world. It isn't because we're mindless idiots.
Well, I know you are, but what am I?
Sincerely,
Grant from McCovey Chronicles
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by jponry on Jul 30, 2007 11:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Simpsons references ahoy
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2007 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by MikeyJ on Jul 30, 2007 11:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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;)
by Glenallen Hill's Helmet on Jul 30, 2007 11:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Mariotti is just another one of those bandwagon journalists that gives the majority what they want, and the rest be damned.
The thing that really eats me is the way that journalists from outside SF view us. They think that we are just this group of mindless idiots with no morals. And the funny thing is, that San Francisco and the Bay Area is one of, if not THE, nicest places to live in the United States. We have great diversity, and we have great character. And as far as I'm concerned, everyone is just jealous.
by BawLa on Jul 30, 2007 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by delorean on Jul 30, 2007 11:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Jul 30, 2007 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Sorry to everyone for the profanity , but Marrioti has always pissed me off.
by ramirez415 on Jul 30, 2007 11:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by ramirez415 on Jul 30, 2007 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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It's like sports players who think it's noble to say, "I don't play the game for the fans, I play it for me teammates." Who the hell do they think is paying their salaries, because it ain't their teammates. Would they be doing the same thing for $35,000 a year.
It's the same for sports writers who put down fans. If it wasn't for the fans of the game they wouldn't have a job. I'm not asking to be coddled, but to be insulted is something else.
by GiantQuacker on Jul 30, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
To quote Ozzie Guillen
by MikeyJ on Jul 30, 2007 11:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BondsApologist on Jul 30, 2007 11:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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It was absolute joke. Of course, I don't suppose you can think too clearly with your lips hermetically sealed to someone's butt.
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jul 30, 2007 11:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Actually I didn't remember that incident until Mariotti mentioned it. Very "powerful" indeed.
by Natto on Jul 30, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by The Gene Hackman on Jul 30, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by PacBellBoozer on Jul 30, 2007 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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WTF.
by Skaldheim on Jul 30, 2007 12:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by VidaWantsYourCar on Jul 30, 2007 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by APGiantsFan on Jul 30, 2007 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What it boils down to 4 me
- Barry is accused of using HGH. HGH was not a banned nor tested substance at the time Barry was alleged to have taken it. WTF is the problem? If that's a crime, then taking protein powder should be- athletes will ALWAYS take what they can for a boost.
- So many athletes have obviously taken similar stuff.
- Professional athletes are no more obligated to act like saints than professional anything elses.
p.s. - I looked up to Bob Costas, until he got all stupid.
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Jul 30, 2007 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Kitspool on Jul 30, 2007 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Nice letter
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Jul 30, 2007 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Nice letter
by Skaldheim on Jul 30, 2007 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shortened letter to Mariotti
Let me put this in terms a Chicagoan could understand:
Fuck you, you fucking douchebag.
Sincerely,
Giants Fans
by JRPhillips on Jul 30, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2007 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shorter Mariotti:
by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2007 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: Shorter Mariotti:
by JRPhillips on Jul 30, 2007 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I think that Grant really says it best as a general statement of the majority of Giants fans.
For me, Bonds may have used roids, but he wasn't the only one, and us fans are not blind to that, we just like what's Bonds has done to help our team win MORE. The actual evidence of any roid use was illegally/suspiciously obtained because it was Bonds, a guy the media hates. How many books have there been about Giambi, Sheffield, Sosa or McGwire alleged use of roids? If there were any, they didn't get nearly the pub that the several anti-Bonds screeds have had, which has more to do with hating Bonds than it has to do with any PED use.
I'm so sick of the anti-Bonds moralizing that goes on in the media and by other non-Giants fans. They get up on their high horses and pontificate on the pureness that was baseball before Barry Bonds allegedly started taking PEDs, in 1999. We hear over and over about how Bonds is the "poster boy for the steroids era" and that his fans are mind-numbed robots/sheep that can't think for ourselves and just blindly follow him and bury our heads in the sand (eh, more mixing of metaphors) and pretend that Bonds is still that skinny guy we signed in '93.
The facts are that baseball has always been full of cheaters, it's never been a pure game, it has been changed constantly, and it has, for a long time, rewarded players and teams that could get outside the rules into the gray area. The very idea that all of a sudden baseball has been corrupted because Barry Bonds took the cream and the clear is not only absurd, it's historically ignorant. What makes matters worse, is that the perpetrators of this revisionist history are the ones CLAIMING TO BE THE PURISTS AND THE GUARDIANS OF BASEBALL'S PURITY AND HISTORY AND ARE THE ONES THAT RESPECT THE GAME THE MOST!
Give me a fucking break!
by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2007 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Next Mariotti will be claiming that Bonds did his best to not hit home runs at the end of the home stand so he could hit one on the road and make it look like he is trying, and still break the record at home. Ridiculous.
And that's classic, Bonds taking an extra day of rest may doom the Cubs season.
by paboperfecto on Jul 30, 2007 1:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by zenbitz on Jul 30, 2007 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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But then, I have a tendency to overstate my points when I do make them.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2007 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by rocketdog on Jul 30, 2007 1:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Natto on Jul 30, 2007 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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His record MAY be tainted, I don't know for fact if it is. neither does Jay Mariotti or anyone else. I don't know if I'll even care since the accomplishment itself is so huge it is irrelevant. This isn't a measure of what role model Barry is or isn't. It's a tribute to his unmatched athletic prowess.
Let's honor his truly magnificient accomplishment.
by yankeefan57 on Jul 30, 2007 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well-said.
Succumb to the Enchanted t-shirt! Adopted dad of Minor Izzy
by hairball on Jul 30, 2007 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I must be reading too many of these hit pieces, because I don't think Mariotti's piece would even make my personal Top 50 list of stupidest Bonds columns. I mean, once you've read Pearlman's "Barry Bonds Hates Black People" opus, the bar is set pretty high.
Still, there is plenty of laziness and inconsistency here. I'm still trying to follow the logic behind, "Bonds doesn't want to hit any home runs on this road trip, so he is ducking the Dodgers best pitcher to hit against their two worst pitchers instead."
By the way, I was handed a pro-Bonds leaflet outside the park yesterday, and didn't realize until after the game that the leaflet was produced by the American Communist Party. I'm not sure they are helping our image any, but it's no worse than having Pearlman on your side.
by Pants Man on Jul 30, 2007 2:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by MeSoKrabby on Jul 30, 2007 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Sounds about right.
by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jul 30, 2007 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Jul 30, 2007 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Having been one of the fans who's struggled the whole issue, I appreciate the balanced viewpoint.
I can't say I really "admire" Bonds, but certainly appreciate what he's accomplished in his career. He's been fun to watch and I agree that crucifying him alone is hardly fair.
by Goofus on Jul 30, 2007 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by smedley on Jul 30, 2007 2:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2007 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Jul 30, 2007 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by jponry on Jul 30, 2007 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Jul 30, 2007 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by JRPhillips on Jul 30, 2007 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Feel free to take one sooner, if you like.
by otis29 on Jul 30, 2007 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2007 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 30, 2007 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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What does the Sun Times gain from having a journalist that doesn't even cover games? No one is going out and buying the Sun Times (a rag) to see what trash he has written. Anyone?
by Rain Dog on Jul 30, 2007 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by E Ticket on Jul 30, 2007 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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So it is possible for someone to hate Barry for who he is, but swath him or herself in the cover of a higher purpose, whether that is about PED's, or all-time records, or investigative integrity, or whatnot. I find it dishonest. And I think that dishonesty will reveal itself when we see who's still interested in the topic after Barry's broken the record and retired.
by achiappanza on Jul 30, 2007 3:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Funniest part
Shocking, that.
by The Balls of Summer on Jul 30, 2007 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Great Letter Grant!
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by jponry on Jul 30, 2007 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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But really, the credibility of his article - if he made ANY sense earlier - was completely compromised when he talked about how it hurts the Cubs. What a turd.
by JRPhillips on Jul 30, 2007 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by NYredsoxfanSF on Jul 30, 2007 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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That being said, anybody heard if Barry is playing on Tuesday? I've got great tickets, but its the only game I can make it to. Any e heard anything?
by 27freethrows on Jul 30, 2007 8:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by 27freethrows on Jul 30, 2007 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Magic Eight Ball Says
by Moggeee on Jul 30, 2007 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
REALLY great piece, Grant. Thanks.
by Mayor of 311 on Jul 30, 2007 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I finally figured it out.
by howtheyscored on Jul 30, 2007 8:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Re: I finally figured it out.
by Natto on Jul 30, 2007 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: I finally figured it out.
But I assure you, when I saw a highlight of Hamels in today's game on TV, it might as well have just been OB in a Phils jersey.
So there's at least one angle where this is true.
by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2007 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: I finally figured it out.
by Natto on Jul 31, 2007 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: I finally figured it out.
by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2007 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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But seriously, I'm in agreemant with him because this San Francisco lovefest with a steroid abuser is embarassing. When you guys look back at all this I guarantee you'll be saying "What were we thinking?" Steroids and HGH are just plain wrong. Look at all of the premature deaths that are asociated with the stuff with the pro wrestlers, the pro football players and the like. Look at Jackie Joyner Kersey. Remember when Jason Giambi had those wierd tumors? Yeah, that's normal. I remember when Bill Walsh was campaigning against steroids. He said that he tried to contact some of the East German athletes, only to find out that they were all dead. All dead!
When some of these baseball players aren't around in ten years, I hope you forget your blind cheering. I won't.
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by ramirez415 on Jul 31, 2007 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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When is the last time an NFL or MLB team won a title without a PED-user on their team? Twenty years? Add greenies to the list and baseball's streak may go back fifty years. Giving up on sports altogether is a principled stand to take in this environment if you feel strongly about drug use (or dog fighting or match fixing or the 10,000 other things wrong with professional sports). But the focus on Bonds makes is just too easy for fans to believe that they aren't rooting for drug users.
Oakland was Ground Zero for steroids in baseball, but damned if most A's fans aren't rabid Bonds haters. This weekend in San Diego, there will be thousands of fans booing Barry Bonds who can't wait for Shawne Merriman and the Chargers to start their season. And after Bonds retires, there will still be Giants tinkering with HGH or the next generation of undetectable steroid. We won't know who they are since the Chronicle won't have two reporters living in their dumpsters, but they'll be there. We blindy cheered Benito Santiago, and we would have blindly cheered Marvin Benard or Armando Rios if they ever did anything worthy of blind cheering.
And, um, as many as 10,000 East German athletes, including many prepubescent girls, were given huge doses of steroids, often without their knowledge. Some female athletes have since had sex change operations to cope with their hormone levels, or have had miscarriages or children with birth defects. It's all a horrible tragedy. A 2004 New York Times article estimates that between 500 and 2,000 of these athletes are suffering from some serious health problems today, but, alas, they are not all dead. In fact, while statistically some of them must be dead by now, the article doesn't mention the death of a single steroid user. (The tag line "They killed Heidi" refers to Heidi Krieger, a shot-put champion who has had a sex change.) This "all dead!" sort of hyperbole makes it difficult to have a rational discussion of the matter.
by Pants Man on Jul 30, 2007 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a technicality
by Moggeee on Jul 31, 2007 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I'm not willing to stop rooting for every player in the major leagues because of leaguewide steroid abuse, so it follows that if I were to stop rooting for one for that same reason I would be some kind of hypocrite (read: smedley).
Do something about the god damn steroid problem if it makes you so sick to your conscience, because it's a waste of everybody's time and resources to take stabs at easily targeted individuals instead.
Just think what could have been done if MLB had focused on the problem of steroids in baseball instead of focusing on Bonds alone. Think of how much wasted time and money has been spent when they could have actually been addressing the issue by doing more than strengthening penalties.
Bah humbug. Go masturbate to a poster of Roger Clemens.
by howtheyscored on Jul 31, 2007 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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"Craig Dubuais? He isn't a hall-of-famer, he has a mechanical left hand! It's not natural!"
"Well, Barry Bonds is in the hall of fame and we're pretty sure he used PEDs. With that I'm sure Craig is a first balloter....."
by paboperfecto on Jul 31, 2007 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Hell, i remember hearing you fisted yourself for a Dodger dog.
by 27freethrows on Jul 31, 2007 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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"Oh. Well. No one actually reads his column. He has a job at the Sun Times because he's on the BOO YAH! Network and he's listed as the "From the Chicago Sun Times" and they use that as publicity.
I don't know a single person that reads his column in the paper."
by Lipssan1 on Jul 31, 2007 5:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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