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My Employer Would Like To Make You An Offer

By A Shadowy Character
July 11, 2007 | Issue 24

I'm glad you accepted our offer to meet. My employer could use...a man of your talents. Please, please have a seat. I apologize that my employer isn't able to be here in person, but you'd understand if you knew the circumstances. If everything goes well, you'll never meet him at all.

You attracted our attention with the work you did as a producer of the Major League Baseball All-Star Game for Fox. It should please you to know that you have all the leverage in the forthcoming negotiations; your work was that brilliant. I've never before seen such a display of style over substance. To be honest, I get bored watching baseball. I need other things to capture my interest. I'm glad you agree, and that's why I'm prepared to offer you eight times what you're currently making.

Now, please, let's continue this meeting in that large wooden crate over there. If you'll go first, I'll follow you in.

What? There's nothing unusual about a request to meet in a large, human-sized box with a padlock on the outside. My employer values his secrecy, and we've completed many of our transactions in such a box. It just makes sense.

Hmm. I can understand a little hesitation, but, really, there is nothing to fear. Is it the fact that the crate is addressed to Abu Dhabi? As if I'm going to seal the crate and ship it off to parts unknown in some Bugs Bunny-meets-Machiavelli scheme? I assure you, that simply isn't the case. Now get in the crate. Please.

Okay. We don't have to hold the meeting in the shipping crate addressed to Abu Dhabi, but I have to say your paranoia disappoints me. This is a friendly business meeting, not some clandestine back-alley coke deal.

I can almost understand your point of view. Hypothetically, and that's an important word to remember, if I were disgusted with an All-Star Game television producer, I suppose it would make me feel better to know he was locked in a crate and headed to the other side of the world against his or her wishes. If, say, I were indescribably offended that the call of the first inside-the-park home run in All-Star history was delayed by shots of some goofy player-reporter and his bulldog swimming around in the waters behind the actual game, I could see my having a desire for some variety of revenge.

So, I'll forget about the box for now.

Here, have a sip of this. What? Just water of course. Any other fragrance or scent you might detect is surely coincidental. I can understand your suspicion of the box, but are you really going to turn down a drink? I told you, my employer is a big fan of your work. Others might be upset that you interviewed the manager of the American League while Barry Bonds was up at the plate in his home park against one of the best pitchers in the game during what might be his last All-Star Game ever. That really didn't make a whole bunch of sense. But as I said, baseball bores me. I understand why you make those decisions. Baseball is just...so much pitching and hitting and pitching and blah blah blah.

You get it. You make sure that we don't have to suffer through too much of the baseball. So, you don't have to worry about me drugging you and shipping your body to Abu Dhabi. It just doesn't fit with what I've told you. Heck, I love that you don't trust your audience to enjoy the very thing that they've tuned in to watch. That takes guts.

Now, please, either get in the box or have a sip of this strangely warm liquid. And then we'll have our meeting. My employer could use...a man of your talents.

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Re: <b></b>
Apologies to The Onion again, but danged if they didn't come up with some useful templates.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 11, 2007 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

MORE CROWD REACTION SHOTS
two things i can't get enough of:

crowd reaction shots
Affleck/Garner
Clemens news

three things.

Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.

by delorean on Jul 11, 2007 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: <b></b>
Brilliant. I love baseball, and I love journalism, but really, when was the last-time we learned something interesting from an in-game interview?

I can't believe they wouldn't at least let us enjoy the natural drama of Bonds' last at-bat.

by Dan from NM on Jul 11, 2007 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: <b></b>
more irritating: Cammie Blackstone or Eric Byrnes?  I can't believe some people are hoping we sign him next year.
If you root for the Dodgers, the terrorists have already won.

by SF Pete on Jul 11, 2007 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: &lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
Byrnes is the exact kind of player the Giants shouldn't sign... going to be 32 next year, having a career year in a big-time hitter's park, sub-100 OPS+ years the two seasons prior to this one, corner outfielder of dubious defensive quality... seriously, no thanks.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 11, 2007 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

re:
byrnes shouldnt sign with us to HELP US WIN!! we're WAY past that, we need WAY more than one player. he will give us some entertainment though while we 'rebuild.' he may be irritating but he is a balls to the wall, face full of dirt kind of player that would be fun to watch since we wont have anything else to cheer for.

by projectmayhem713 on Jul 11, 2007 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: re:
I'd like to add that he absolutely DOMINATES the Big Phone.  Everytime he comes to town he has a career day.  And he and Zito are best friends.  Maybe Byrnes can get some productivity out of the schlub.
If Brad Hennesy had Steve Kline's attitude you'd get Rob Nen... without the triple digit heat.

by milesntrane on Jul 11, 2007 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: re:
Then again, that's the kind of logic that's netted us Mark Portugal, Steve Finley, Randy Winn, and better examples in the past.
Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2007 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: re:
Loved the mark Portugal signing--in retrospect, of course.
"If I had played my career hitting singles like Pete (Rose), I'd wear a dress." Mickey Mantle

by getnby on Jul 11, 2007 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/b&
Did you hear Byrnes last night?  The guy was practically begging to play for the Giants.  Had they given him more time, he might have read some of his poetry about San Francisco and the Giants.  Or openly begged Brian Sabean to sign him.  Hell, I am surprised that he didn't wear a Will Clark jersey last night.

It is rare for a major-league player to be so unabashed in his love for his hometown team when he is not only on the roster of another team, but the roster of a division rival!

I have to say - I kinda like it.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 11, 2007 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cammie's our man
Both awful, but Cammie will still hit in 2008 like she has in 2007. Byrnes is wrong, wrong, wrong for this team!
wCovington

by wcovington on Jul 11, 2007 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Cammie's our man
I do not understand your logic. Why is Byrnes so bad? He brings the right attitude to the field. He is always hustling and giving his best effort. He hits for power and has good speed with a .280 average. Explain to me why you dont want him? He'd be way more valuable than Roberts. Or are you worried that we are gonna sign more decrepit players who are past their prime for $$$$$? I say 3-4 years at $10mil or less and put him out there!

by joebirdie3 on Jul 11, 2007 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Cammie's our man
Like I said above, Byrnes is having a pretty obvious career year in a hitter's park. He'd been pretty bad the two years prior to this one. He's a not-very-good defensive corner outfielder. He's never hit nearly this well before in his life, but he's going to get paid for this season. What are the odds that a 32 year old builds on a career season in his walk year? Generally, not very good.

If Eric Byrnes was really the player he's been hitting like this season, it wouldn't be a bad idea to sign him. But it's far more likely that as soon as he signed with the Giants, he would go back to being the Eric Byrnes of the rest of his career... a .268 hitter with a poor OBP and decent pop.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 11, 2007 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Cammie's our man
just think . . . Randy Winn.  Almost the exact same situation
this is a split signature of solidarity for Palestine and the current Giants "team".

by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Jul 12, 2007 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Cammie's our man
Close, but some differences.  To be fair to Randy, his OPS was steadily climbing during the years leading up to the trade and extension.  His BA was no lower than .286 in the three seasons leading up to that trade and extension, as well.  

Byrnes on the other hand has been fairly erratic.  In addition to that inconsistency, his BA is no where near what Winn's was at the time of Winn's extension.

by sfgfan on Jul 13, 2007 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

catnip and a flashlight
I tend to agree with you most of the time, jponry, but I think Byrnes could be useful to the Giants. The team has three lefty-hitting outfielders in its immediate future -- Lewis, Roberts and Schierholtz. Byrnes could be a nice right-handed complement to that group.

The problem, of course, is in the execution. Byrnes shouldn't be playing every day ahead of the kids.

by Dan from NM on Jul 11, 2007 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: catnip and a flashlight
He could be, if this 119 OPS+ this season represented a new level of hitting. But if he goes back to being the 100ish OPS+ Eric Byrnes he was before this year (which I find far more likely), his contract could look pretty bad.

I also don't like the guy. At all. So I'm a little biased.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 11, 2007 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: catnip and a flashlight
I don't care about any stats.  I love him because he's always hustling.  Maybe the best comparison for him would be Mark Madsen.  Not a whole lot of talent, but makes up for it a bit by running down the court as if every trip is a fastbreak.

For pure entertainment value, I'd rather have Burns over every one of our outfielders (cept BLB of course).  Dude is a bat busting over the knee, helmet tossing, kinda guy...and I dig that because our team now looks like they're half asleep most of the time.  

Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 11, 2007 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

R: catnip and a flashlight
PLUS
PLUS
PLUS he's the Blanks' hottest hitter.
Any detraction from their offense is , well , a
PLUS
PLUS
PLUS
That may be all.
Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Jul 11, 2007 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: &lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
Byrnes is FAR more irritating. At least Cammie doesn't think she's funny and/or clever.
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.

by delorean on Jul 11, 2007 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Byrne's Best Friend
I know, all Cammie did was sit in the front of the kayak with her tongue hanging out.
For just pennies a day, you too can make a difference in the life of a Giants player...like Kevin Correia.

by VidaWantsYourCar on Jul 11, 2007 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

boooooooooooooooooooooooooom
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.

by delorean on Jul 11, 2007 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cammy VS Jeanne - who'se worse?
I'm not a Cammy fan by any means, but she probably whould have had more of a clue than Jeanne Zelasko did with her "And he's gonna be a Free Agent!" comment.

by Jakespaar on Jul 11, 2007 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: <b></b>
Funny. I was at the game, and after the loud glitzy sponsor-dominated events of the week (the FanFest, All Star Sunday, the Home Run Derby, the red carpet parade, the Mays ceremony and the bonejarringly stupid Taco Bell tee-ball contest), the game seemed so quiet and subdued. It really just felt like a regular season Giants game in a lot of ways, and I couldn't decide if this was a good thing (the low-key production showed a lot of respect for the game itself) or a bad thing (I mean, my ticket cost a little bit more than a regular season Giants game). Now that you've given me a glimpse of the Foxi-ified alternative, I'm so happy that they played it cool at the park.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jul 11, 2007 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: <b></b>
Great post. The FOX broadcast was unspeakably lame... I'm pretty sure we almost missed the Ichiro inside-the-parker, because Eric Byrnes's dog was trying to escape from him. You'd think, to honor all the guys who got in, they could talk a little bit about every one of them. But it seems like most of the guys who entered the game after the first inning barely got any mention at all.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 11, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: &lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
I was also bemused that everyone of their little "HP player profiles" (Big Papi likes to save his toenail clippings) occurred long after that player had left the game.
Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Jul 11, 2007 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet
He saves his toenail clippings in order to crochet them into an antimacassar for the Barcalounger he bought for his grandma.

I think that's kinda sweet.

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by leewhee on Jul 11, 2007 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Sweet
In a... gross sort of way.
Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perspiring Minds Want To Know!
What's so evil about a macassar that the world needs an antimacassar?
Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Jul 11, 2007 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Perspiring Minds Want To Know!
All my life I have wondered this.
Proud adoptive father of the All-Father and his 2.29 ERA

by EliminateMe on Jul 11, 2007 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Fox's All-Star Game
Pete Macheska would be the person about to get into the box addessed to Dubai. He is Fox's lead producer of baseball.

Say, has anyone ever televised camel races? I think he could be your man.

Your 2012 NL ERA champion: Sergio Romo

by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Jul 11, 2007 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: Fox's All-Star Game
Abu Dhabi, Dubai, you get my drift.
Your 2012 NL ERA champion: Sergio Romo

by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Jul 11, 2007 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

FAUX ASG Broadcast
What else can you expect of the people that brought us FAUX News?

by Jakespaar on Jul 11, 2007 11:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: <b></b>
Hey Grant, I know a guy...
If Brad Hennesy had Steve Kline's attitude you'd get Rob Nen... without the triple digit heat.

by milesntrane on Jul 11, 2007 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: <b></b>
do non-baseball/casual fans really give a shit about the All-Star game. The All-Star game is not the Super Bowl(TM) or even the World Series. Why the networks always have to do that same old tired "the game is secondary" crap is beyond me.

And why is it that baseball's biggest events are announced by the most retarded announcers, I'll never understand. I'd much prefer to listen to Vin Scully than Buck/McCarver. Neither one knows shit about what's happening and could care less, and it shows up in the broadcast.

And they really need to get rid of those stupid in-game interviews with the manager. that's really lame.

The Fringe was right.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jul 11, 2007 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: &lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
I'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard than McCarver. Campbell on radio side is nearly as excruciating.
Billy Hayes: Nine more big-league plate appearances than you.

by delorean on Jul 11, 2007 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

McCarver is unlistenable
Thank you. As pathetic exhibitions go, the All-Star Game hires on the added irritation of arguably the most vacuous sports announcer of all time. McCarver is unlistenable at any speed.
wCovington

by wcovington on Jul 11, 2007 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: McCarver is unlistenable
My favorite McCarver moment last night was sometime during one of Ortiz's at bats, he says that "Ortiz's quad is affecting his swing."

Now, that could be an interesting point to talk about... how and why an injury can make David Ortiz alter his swing.

But does McCarver elaborate? No. He says, "It just does." and doesn't say anything else about it.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 11, 2007 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: McCarver is unlistenable
My favorite part was the throw home from Griffey to get A-Rod at the plate. It's so rare that McCarver has anything to talk about that he remotely understands, when something actually happened that involved a catcher he suddenly got all excited and made sure to repeat himself 7 times just so you knew that he had something to say.

For the record, I'm not saying it was the least listenable, and I still managed to think he wasn't making a lot of sense (because it was actually a short hop, Tim, and the play wasn't very close to begin with), but it was easily the most notable CarverMoment of the night for me because it just went to show that even Tim realizes he doesn't know a thing about broadcasting or baseball.

It's like a bad lumberjack at a baby shower for his wife's distant friend who suddenly sees somebody else at the party examining a tree in the backyard. "Finally, something to talk about for the next 15 minutes!"

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2007 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: McCarver is unlistenable
Welcome to Forced Analogy Theater, version 2.0.
Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2007 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: McCarver is unlistenable
He's a lumberjack and he's OK!
Barry Bombs gear | comics | Ray - grounded for LIFE

by Natto on Jul 11, 2007 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

e: On Wednesdays I go shopping
...just like my dear Papa!
Barry Zito: Not an embarrassment of riches , but a rich embarrassment.

by victor frankenstein on Jul 11, 2007 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: McCarver is unlistenable
Geez... I'm getting so tired of that analogy. TV pundits, talk radio hosts, coworkers around the water cooler... everyone is always all "bad lumberjack at a baby shower" this and "bad lumberjack at a baby shower" that. I expect a little more originality from you, Howie.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jul 11, 2007 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Now Poo-Holes is Pissed at Tony
as he should be. strategy tony really? how is rowand a better fit with the bases loaded and the game on the line than Pujols? huh? I was genuinely pissed about this last night. I dont know why but I was. Pujols is one of the better players in baseball and he doesnt get an AB and Tony says it is strategy? what? If he singles there, the NL wins? where is there strategy tony you arrogant idiot?
I nominate Common Sense as the new GM of the San Francisco Giants.

by fanofvanlandingham on Jul 11, 2007 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Now Poo-Holes is Pissed at Tony
What I'm mad about is that in one move, LaRussa took the most interesting and competitive ASG in about a decade and turned the whole thing to shit.

Pujos being in the game in either of those last two at bats would have had people (maybe not cynical people) talking about what a great game that was and how there might be hope yet for the ASG, but instead it's the same joke that it's been for years.

And there is only one guy to blame. I just can't believe that for once it's not Selig.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2007 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols as clubhouse cancer
He's pissed at his manager. How long before he starts writing "Play for yourself" on the clubhouse whiteboard? C'mon, Jocketty, we'll take this troublemaker off your hands. We'll send you Klesko, Feliz, and Sweeney. That's THREE first basemen in exchange for ONE. You'd be an idiot not to take a 3-for-1 offer!
Proud adoptive father of the All-Father and his 2.29 ERA

by EliminateMe on Jul 11, 2007 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Pujols as clubhouse cancer
Dear Walt,
Twist our arm and we'll toss in a LHP who can serenade you while his guitar gently weeps.

Regards
Goofus McPenisbutter

Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Jul 11, 2007 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Pujols as clubhouse cancer
I believe my hopothetical was Klesko, Feliz, and Foppert for Pujols.

Gotta have an arm in the deal, after all. If I was the Cardinals, I'd take that deal in a second. Come on, 3 guys for one? And one of them pitches?! That's like 300% the manpower with 200% the skill set we're giving them.

It's practically a highway robbery.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2007 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Pujols as clubhouse cancer
. . .And if you act RIGHT NOW, we'll throw in Lance Niekro, an autographed JT Snow glove, a cha-cha bowl, and a reasonably useable David Greene jersey.
wCovington

by wcovington on Jul 11, 2007 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Pujols as clubhouse cancer
I'll tell you what....add Shea Hillen-suck to the mix and you've got a deal!
Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 11, 2007 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your message here
I think timing the introduction of "top of home page" ad banners at McCovey Chronicles with the All-Star Game and its rampant commercialism is an apropos kind of irony.  Good luck to ya, God knows I'm one of the unwashed millions who prefers free content.

by achiappanza on Jul 11, 2007 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: Your message here
Uh, those have been there for a couple of months now. And, trust me, I don't see a dime. I'm just happy to have server costs/tech support for free.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 11, 2007 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Your message here
Just what ads are you referring to.  I'm running the fox and have blocked all of them...all I see is tens and tens of links filled with Chronicles content.  
Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 11, 2007 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Your message here
Perhaps I'm a little Firefox feature-challenged, but how do you go about blocking Flash-based ads?

by sfgfan on Jul 11, 2007 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Your message here
Go to their add-ons page and look for script blockes as well as Adblock Plus.  

While you're at it, pick up Download Statusbar, Google Toolbar, IE Tab, and StumbleUpon.

Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 11, 2007 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Your message here
No problem...FWIW, StumbleUpon is like crack cocaine...only more addictive.  
Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 11, 2007 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Your message here
Block the ads and you block Grant's opportunity to have this site pay for itself.  I consider ad-blocking to be a form of freeloading.

by achiappanza on Jul 12, 2007 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: <b></b>
Every time I tune into a Fox baseball broadcast I think it can't get any worse, and every single time it does. Buck, McCarver, Byrnes, Zelasko, Kennedy, Brenneman -- if only we could have locked them inside a yacht and then sunk it in the Bay. (I'd spare Ken Rosenthal for his occasional piece of insight.)

It's especially jarring for me because I just spent the past two weeks in England, much of it enjoying the BBC's coverage of Wimbledon, and it's like night and day from the way Fox covers sports.

Lon Simmons' adopted dad.

by Kitspool on Jul 11, 2007 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Sinking Yacht
Hey, you throw in Rupert Murdoch, O'Reilly, and the rest of Murdoch's minions (on the sinking yacht) and you have the deal of the century!  

by Jakespaar on Jul 11, 2007 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: &lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
You think that's an interesting comparison....watch how we cover soccer matches to the way they do it across the pond.  

I've actually seen a U.S. broadcast recently where they threw it down to the field which entails someone with a mic in their hand standing on the sideline rambling on about something in full-screen mode, while LIVE PLAY is occurring directly behind them on the pitch.

This isn't the effing NFL you dolts!!! There's no timeouts, commercial breaks, or shit like that.  Give me one camera mounted high @ midfield and maybe one behind each goal and I'm good to go.  Oh and don't even get me started on that bitch Eric Wynalda and his misguided views.  

Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 11, 2007 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brain Fart
"watch how we"

"compare how we..."

Can't type or think for crap today.

Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 11, 2007 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: <b></b>
Excuse me if I offend anyone, but who on earth would find Zelasko attractive? Bikers have better taste.Even drunk bikers. And she certainly wasn't hired for her insights.
wCovington

by wcovington on Jul 11, 2007 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Re:
Listening to Buck spend an entire half inning of the All-Star game talking about steroids was almost embarrassing. Baseball seriously needs new leadership.

by mxmob33 on Jul 11, 2007 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Re:
I've heard people roast Buck here before, and maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't get it.  

I find him to be better pretty good.  He doesn't talk to much, has good pipes and seems to not let the required distractions like promo reads and sponsored "features" take away from the game.

He might stike some as smug, but having seen him guest on talk shows, he strikes me as a guy with a good sense of humor and pretty self-effecing.  I also really liked his "Slam-a-lama-ding-dong" comerical and the "good side" commercial with Leon.

His discussion of PEDs last night seemed pretty balanced and he didn't take cheap shots at Bonds.

Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Jul 11, 2007 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re:
Did you watch the 2002 NLCS?

Regarding the steroid discussion, was there any value in bringing it up? Is there any other sport that would take attention away from their all-star game to discuss steroids? I thought it was in pretty bad taste, but par for the course in MLB.

by mxmob33 on Jul 11, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re:
The only thing that I give Buck is that he takes his job seriously (which I respect to no end) and the he approaches it with a level of professionalism that you jts don't see from any of the terrible player/personell/hackjob conversion broadcasters that seem to be the only type coming up today not named Flemming.

The problem with Buck for me is that hes remarkably dull. He speaks, regardless of play or atmosphere, in a ridiculous monotone - which is too bad because he dos have a voice suited for the job - and never gets excited about anything.

The problem with Buck for me is that he takes what should be memorable, high stakes, exciting games in any sport and he calls them in a way that would make the casual viewer think they were preseason laughers.

The problem with Buck for me is that while he'll make thousands of passable calls in his career, he'll never ever make a single great call and he's not likely to even make a memorable call if the game means something.

Watching the playoffs and the World Series it gets unbelievably frustrating to have to put up with his droll, stagnant style.

If he ever brought any enthusiasm or personality to a single broadcast I'd be willing to give him a shadow of a chance, but I've never heard it, so I don't.

He is infinitely better than McCarver, though, who is a joke beyond repair. And like I said, I admire his approach to his professionalism, even if I can't stand the sum of his parts.

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by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2007 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Guess it's personal preference.  I kinda think Buck's style is a tip of the cap to his old man.  I'll bet he'd say something like "A good fan doesn't need me to tell them just got exciting; they can see it for themselves."
Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Jul 11, 2007 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Personal preference probably has a lot to do with it. I'm all for the announcer getting out of the way of the play and letting the excitement of the moment do its own thing, but for me this can be as simple as calling the play briefly. It tends to be a killjoy for me to be so completely wrapped up in a moment and then have the announcer ho-hum his way through whatever call he makes, because it puts somebody in the room who is presenting themself without investment in the circumstances on the field - and I don't want that guy in my room while I'm watching the game.

One of the reasons that I think Miller is so unbelievably good is that he gets sincerely excited by exciting plays, but he never kills the play by over-calling it. He makes the call short so you can watch it without him being in the way, but you can hear the baseball fan in there when he's doing it, and his excitement is the same regardless of team, and his fanboy is more excited the more it counts. That's the guy I want in my room. The guy I can share the moment with.

I just can't imagine being at a game and calling the game 7 NLCS walk off home run with the same level of control and detachment as you would call a slider off the outside corner of the plate in spring training and it always feels awful to me when I hear him do it.

But that's just how I feel. And it's not like I don't have a clear personal preference for excited calls: my favorite call of all time is easily Starky's call of The Play. Even the typescript sends chills down my spine.

It kills me trying to imagine Buck doing that call.

BUCK: "And Cal takes the kickoff. It's a good runback. There's a lateral. And another one. The play is still going. And the Stanford Band appears to be on the field. There's another lateral. The play's still going, and it looks like Cal scores. We'll wait for official word on that. While we wait, hey Tim, did you see the Michigan Ohio State game? Two powerhouse teams in that matchup in a very close game. Yeah, that was fun. I really like the Michigan band, too. Very professional. Alright, it looks like the touchdown counts and Cal wins. The Stanford band is still on the field, and, understandably, nobody in red looks happy. That was fun. Congratulations to the Golden Bears, and we'll see you later America."

MCCARVER: "Dur, that second pass there looked like a fastball. I know because I was a catcher, and catchers know that stuff, dur."

I just like a little personal investment to go alongside a good, sincere call.

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by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2007 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Heh, it's a fad on another board I go to to rewrite exciting moments in sports history as if Joe Buck had called them.

For example:

"Thomson hits a 3 run homer to left field. Giants win."

or, (this was a very popular game on this board)

"Zabransky takes the snap and throws ... oh no, he handed it off to Johnson. Boise State wins."

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 11, 2007 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Buck: "Montana scrambles to the sideline. He throws it aw... no. Dwight catches it in the end zone and the 49ers have taken the lead."

McCarver: "Montana saw Dwight open and that's why he passed it to him. Even with the pressure he was under, he was able to get the pass off. Like Cliff Eastwood in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, He was feelin' lucky."

Adopted Giant: Randy Winn. Can't wait for Zito to start Opening Day '08.

by Punch Rockgroin on Jul 11, 2007 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

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I love McCarver's comment there.
Steve Kline: He's pretty okay!

by groug on Jul 11, 2007 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

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It's so perfectly McCarver.

I still remember the classic, "It's a Mark Wohlberg fastball... catch me if you can!"

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jul 11, 2007 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

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I think my example is particularly sub-par. Too many words and I don't have the speech patterns down, but I was just trying to make it seem dull and to play on the McCarver "I was a catcher guys lol" moment from the ASG.

It would be fun to see somebody give it an honest go. It's just that call by Starky was so unbelievable... I can't even believe it.

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by howtheyscored on Jul 11, 2007 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

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It's harder than it looks. I called the Brian Johnson homer at the FanFest and opened my broadcast with "The Giants are coming up in the bottom of the telth inning..." You just don't recover from something like that.
"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jul 11, 2007 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

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McCarver: "Rod Beck, Shooter they call him, with his arm dangling by his side. Almost like a gunslinger. Like Wyatt Earp against Aaron Burr at the OK Corral. Giddy up!"
Adopted Giant: Randy Winn. Can't wait for Zito to start Opening Day '08.

by Punch Rockgroin on Jul 11, 2007 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Fox sucks. Lots.

I haven't been able to stand Buck and McCarver since 2002 and couldn't really stand them before then either.

The Taco Bell hit contest was hilarious. You'd think the guy would have at least practiced, like, a little bit. He must have known he was going to get a chance to hit a ball, right?

Not using Pujols was insane.

But I must admit, it was funny when Byrnes' dog started paddling his way to Alameda.

My VORP is higher than Merkin's VORP.

by Poe on Jul 11, 2007 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

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Right there with you on the Taco Bell home run thing.  That guy just looked like he was trying to make contact. I'd have had more respect for him if he'd taken a Happy Gilmore running start and whiffed completely.
Bold Prediction: Klesko will finish the 2007 season with at least 20 HRs. (OPS+ is 129 as of 7/1/07)

by Goofus on Jul 11, 2007 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

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At least the crowd booed him soundly. I know how that feels; I got to throw out the first pitch once and chucked it over the catcher's head. Long walk off the mound after that one...
Merkin Valdez career SO/9: 10.8

by Poe on Jul 11, 2007 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants reach final four...
of the DodgerSims Mid-Season Simulation Tournament.  The Giants will face the Cubs in the NL finals and the Royals (upset city) will face the Twins in the AL finals.  The tournament is single elimination format, with each head to head matchup consisting of a best 4 out of 7 series, with a four man rotation for each team.  The semi finals and finals will be played this evening.
vr, Xei
People often make fun of or bash the things in life they don't understand.

by Xeifrank on Jul 11, 2007 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Giants reach final four...
So what you're saying is that your simulation is obviously wrong?

Because if it's wrong, I think I'll just ignore it.

Steve Kline: He's pretty okay!

by groug on Jul 11, 2007 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Giants reach final four...
Well, the dream is over.  The Cubs knocked off the Giants four games to one.  Each game was really close.  Cain and Zito each lost one run games in the first two games.  Then Lowry pitched a shutout and won game three.  Lincecum had a 5-0 8th inning lead that he and the bullpen blew in game four.  Then the Giants (Cain pitching) lost to Zambrano in game 5, 2-1 when the Cubs broke a 1-1 tie with a run off the Giants bullpen in the top of the 9th inning.  Better luck next time.
vr, Xei
People often make fun of or bash the things in life they don't understand.

by Xeifrank on Jul 11, 2007 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Giants reach final four...
Eat shit and die.
Bong hits for Barry.

by Tajiri on Jul 11, 2007 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Giants reach final four...
To be fair, that sounds like it would actually happen in real life with this team. Except for Zito losing a one run game. I refuse to believe he wasn't chased after 3 innings after giving up 6 runs.
Adopted Giant: Randy Winn. Can't wait for Zito to start Opening Day '08.

by Punch Rockgroin on Jul 11, 2007 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Giants reach final four...
Shut up fantasy boy.  Here's to your Dodgers getting their asses handed to them on a silver platter this weekend.  
Omar Vizquel to Big Sam, "Barton, Viduka, Rozenhal, Geremi, Deco even?...way to go Gaffer, keep up the great work!"

by PacBellBoozer on Jul 12, 2007 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Giants reach final four...
Oh come on, don't use the good silver.
Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jul 12, 2007 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

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A commenter on Deadspin picked up on the Garfield reference. I've been outed!

/still thinks Arlene is hawt.

by Grant Brisbee on Jul 12, 2007 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

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