Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2007/04/12/SPG2LP661H1.DTL
Um, what? I'm starting to think that Sabean may have lost his marbles completely.
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Re: Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
Proves the old baseball saying, "You can never have enough marginal, slow-footed first basemen."
by leewhee on Apr 12, 2007 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by ololo3 on Apr 12, 2007 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 12, 2007 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by BenboC on Apr 12, 2007 11:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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I can see why you might want to do this, if Bochy is only going to play Frandsen on a rare occasion. That said, I still don't like it. The regulars are not likely to remain this healthy for long, so Frandsen would have become more useful. And you have four (at least) first basemen now. I guess I was also secretly hoping that a deal for Niekro or Sweeney was in the works, but no such luck...
by BigO on Apr 12, 2007 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Apr 12, 2007 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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I'd like to see Frandsen starting at short for a month or two in Fresno, because he's going to have to play there occasionally as a major leaguer.
by Evan on Apr 12, 2007 11:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Photoshop anyone?
by the degenerate on Apr 12, 2007 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Photoshop anyone?
by Andy In Fresno on Apr 12, 2007 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Photoshop anyone?
by dangjackson on Apr 12, 2007 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
by BigO on Apr 12, 2007 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
The larger point is that, cumulatively, these five still don't add up to one quality first-sacker. Beating a dead horse, I know, since that's what we're stuck with...just like last season only moreso.
The Giants have been blessed with some very good 1Bmen over the 49 years in SF. Perhaps not coincidentally, most of their crappy seasons have come when saddled with a less-than-stellar 1B.
For example, since 1958, 35 of 48 seasons had just four guys starting the lion's share of games at first base: Cepeda, McCovey, Clark and Snow. The Giants had winning seasons in 30 of these 35 years---86% of the time. In the 14 seasons when the Giants didn't have a quality 1B, they had losing seasons 13 of 14 times---93% of the time.
You might recall some of these lesser lights: Niekro, Carreon, Benzinger, Green, Scot Thompson, Evans, Smith, Cabell, Ivie, Montanez, Kingman.
Perhaps it is mere coincidence that the Giants have had winning seasons 86% of the time when fielding quality first basemen while posting losing seasons 93% of the time with mediocrities at first base.
But with a choice of Klesko, Niekro, Feliz, Sweeney or Aurelia, hard to see how this season will fit into the "quality first basemen" category.
by leewhee on Apr 12, 2007 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
His power was wanting, I'll give them that. But we had power on those teams. He filled another role because we had that luxury, and boy he did it well. When I hear that commercial on KNBR where Jon Miller says "Thanks, J. T. Snow for the last 13 (?) years of being the best there ever was" I almost tear up.
by howtheyscored on Apr 12, 2007 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
Not too shabby really.
by leewhee on Apr 12, 2007 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Roger on Apr 12, 2007 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
So if you include Smith as a "quality 1B" (along with Cepeda, McCovey, Clark and Snow), it turns out the Giants have NEVER had a winning season since 1958 with a mediocrity (or an assemblage of mediocrities) at first base.
by leewhee on Apr 12, 2007 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
I would like to think that while he was watching Adrian Gonzalez destroy the Giants' pitching staff, Sabean was thinking, "Damn, I should try to find the next Adrian Gonzalez! Let's see ... James Loney? Kendry Morales? Wily Mo Pena?..." But he was probably just thinking, "Damn, I should try to find another veteran middle reliever."
by Evan on Apr 12, 2007 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Me likey Casy Kotchman
That is of course if Sabean is still in charge after this season.
by sfgreg on Apr 12, 2007 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Evan on Apr 12, 2007 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by E Ticket on Apr 12, 2007 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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But it is too early to start thinking about potential trades, isn't it?
by sfgreg on Apr 12, 2007 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't Forget J.R. Phillips
by Andy In Fresno on Apr 12, 2007 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Carreon
by VidaWantsYourCar on Apr 12, 2007 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Sayhey on Apr 12, 2007 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BondsApologist on Apr 12, 2007 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Sayhey on Apr 12, 2007 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Evan on Apr 12, 2007 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
Here is my thinking. Winn is on the bench so that Linden can be showcased or Winn is on the bench to persuade Winn to forgo his no trade clause.
by giantsrainman on Apr 12, 2007 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Sayhey on Apr 12, 2007 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Roger on Apr 12, 2007 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rumor has it...
by EliminateMe on Apr 12, 2007 12:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by BarryR on Apr 12, 2007 12:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Kitspool on Apr 12, 2007 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Goofus on Apr 12, 2007 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Sayhey on Apr 12, 2007 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Goofus on Apr 12, 2007 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Sayhey on Apr 12, 2007 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by NearestNorwich on Apr 12, 2007 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Frandsen sent down for Sweeney??!?!?
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2124
by BigO on Apr 13, 2007 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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