Biggest San Francisco baseball bar argument?
Hello Giants fans,
I was wondering what you all think is the biggest, most passionate argument amongst San Francisco baseball fans. You know, one of those arguments that will never truly be settled and can only be debated in theory. The kind that Giants fans get really riled up over while discussing with friends over pitchers of beer. What San Francisco baseball debate do YOU think trumps all others??
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by tk on Mar 14, 2007 4:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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2nd: Is Sabean doing a good job?
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by Kid Fresh on Mar 14, 2007 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by lyricalkiller on Mar 14, 2007 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Mar 14, 2007 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the same thing about Tyler Walker.
by multiphasic on Mar 14, 2007 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by leftymalo on Mar 15, 2007 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by rebuildthem on Mar 16, 2007 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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this town thinks you're a Matos
by EliminateMe on Mar 14, 2007 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by PacBellBoozer on Mar 14, 2007 4:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Ghost11 on Mar 14, 2007 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by nick on Mar 14, 2007 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I got it
by wjackalope on Mar 14, 2007 5:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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- Most say Willie Mays. They are probably correct.
- A few say Christie Matthewson. I am one of them.
- McCovey has a certain place in many fan's hearts.
- Mel Ott was a freakin' monster- feared hitter
- Barry L. Bonds- biggest offensive force in history of game.
- Bill Terry and Juan Marachial weren't too shabby.
- Heck, a few cling to Will Clark memories.
- Lincecum? I think he could step right in and do it.
- Correia? Sure, give him a try. Solid 8th inning option as well.
- Hennessey? He might excel- he sounds bored in current role.
- Hope to get value out of Benitez during last year of contract?
by Kid Fresh on Mar 14, 2007 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been DYING for this typo to come up
Or, at least, it's most interesting when it is.
by howtheyscored on Mar 14, 2007 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by victor frankenstein on Mar 14, 2007 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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:D !
by howtheyscored on Mar 14, 2007 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Cynema the Band on Mar 15, 2007 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Goofus on Mar 15, 2007 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by victor frankenstein on Mar 15, 2007 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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willie mays (no-brainer)
andruw jones
i heard mickey mantle was very good (although never got to see)
jim edmonds
of course i am at a disadvantage not being able to see much of anybody before 1980. just based on clips and other's recaps.
by Cynema the Band on Mar 15, 2007 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by MeSoKrabby on Mar 14, 2007 7:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Punch Rockgroin on Mar 14, 2007 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barry Bonds vs. Willie Mays for Best Giant Ever
- What exact decision/moment REALLY lost us the 2002 World Series against an inferior team.
- Worst contract ever AS EVALUATED AT THE TIME OF THE SIGNING, not in hindsight (Marvin Benard? Matt Morris? Hamhando Benitez?)
by Mayor of 311 on Mar 14, 2007 8:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Then that smartass--y'know, that smartass in the baseball bar--comes over and says "Manilow."
by multiphasic on Mar 14, 2007 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Or
Did one of the Giants biggest strengths in 2002 (F-Rod, Worrell, and Nen to close out the 7th, 8th and 9th) just pick the wrong time for all three have a bad outing?
by giantsrainman on Mar 14, 2007 9:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Or it could've been Dusty's over use of Felix and Worrell, as well as Nen's arm hanging by a thread that did us in.
Ortiz deserved better. I'd love to see Russ pitching a gem for us, again, in a WS clincher.
Randy Winn never would've taken him out.
by Punch Rockgroin on Mar 14, 2007 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by howtheyscored on Mar 14, 2007 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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At worst, a 1 inning 1 run inning. But nothing too bad.
by groug on Mar 14, 2007 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by sfgreg on Mar 14, 2007 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by rxmeister on Mar 16, 2007 5:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Cynema the Band on Mar 15, 2007 10:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Giants' home field naming rights.
- Who should get them?
- Who WILL get them?
- When?
by victor frankenstein on Mar 15, 2007 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Mayor of 311 on Mar 15, 2007 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, wait a second...
by Mayor of 311 on Mar 15, 2007 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Cynema the Band on Mar 15, 2007 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I like the original name, because if you ignore the commercial connotations, "pacific" and "bell" are both beautiful words. I have no such aesthetic fondness for the generic acronyms that have followed.
this town thinks you're a Matos
by EliminateMe on Mar 15, 2007 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
que?
by Mayor of 311 on Mar 15, 2007 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: que?
Sounds like you meant something different by the phrase...?
this town thinks you're a Matos
by EliminateMe on Mar 15, 2007 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I do sit in View Box 311 (the section below the walkway, with 3 rows in it) a lot, so drop by for a beer. I'm the one not having sex with the wife of his campaign manager.
But beyond that, I think you are analogizing two things that don't belong together. Names on a blog are a forced necessity, and we randomly pick a handle, and it is or isn't obvious or whatever, but it serves its forced purpose. On the other hand, deliberately MISnaming something that already has a name, especially when one is doing so for his or her own moral/aesthetic/political reasons is something quite different. The "Mays Field" crowd, it seems to me, is just ignoring the $20M in corporate sponsorship that Chase Manhattan required before they would approve the loan for construction (the Giants had to raise X number of seat license sales and $Y million in corp. sponsorships, including naming rights to get the loan). This is like many things that hipsters (or wannabes) strike poses about in San Francisco-- everything "corporate" is Bad, without a perspective to at least see the benefits that it provides. I'm no corporate apologist, but I do try to look at costs and benefits, and I do try to acknowledge that she who pays the piper gets to call the tune.
by Mayor of 311 on Mar 15, 2007 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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This isn't a kiss ass move. Just playing an honest Devil's Advocate to the "it's a hard reference to get" stance.
by howtheyscored on Mar 15, 2007 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I think it's possible to accept the notion of corporate naming rights and still chafe at the ugly names that often result. As I said above, I think Pacific Bell Park was a fine name; its successors haven't been nearly as appealing. Fans are perfectly justified in creating nicknames they like; Giants employees may have to follow policy and use the AT&T name, but the phone company didn't pay me any $10 million, so I'll call the yard whatever I like, thank you very much.
But yeah, if you see "Mays Field" as a purely anti-corporatist gesture, then I get where you're coming from.
I will point out, though, that you (and I) could have chosen to use our real names when we registered here. We didn't - we chose to, as you put it, "deliberately misname something that already has a name" - or, as I would put it, make up a nickname. I don't think my analogy is as stretched as you suggest. I'm not convinced that the motivation behind "Mays Field" is that different from the impetus that gave us "Special Agent Jack Taschner" or "Magellan" or "Dreamy".
this town thinks you're a Matos
by EliminateMe on Mar 15, 2007 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow-- well said
I still don't see it as a nickname, like our e-handles, but I see your point.
And of course I totally agree with you about some corp. names being better/worse than others. I, too, found Pacific Bell Park to be about as nice as these things get. I still don't think "Mays Field" is used as a nickname to cover over unlyrical names, though.
by Mayor of 311 on Mar 15, 2007 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: que?
And a poser! NYAH! (Or something to that effect...
...I'm just bored here. MY next game is Sunday , I'm outta alcohol[Have been for a week you labelists!]
and there's no more AquaTeenHungerForce.)
by victor frankenstein on Mar 16, 2007 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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"..check the technique 311 in L.A...."
...and we just don't allow that sort of riffraff to infest these hallowed halls...and he ain't riff nor raff.
So cut him some slack , call off the dogs , tear up the subpoena/search warrant.
by victor frankenstein on Mar 15, 2007 6:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by rxmeister on Mar 16, 2007 5:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Hits" plural? As in more than one hit?
by Mayor of 311 on Mar 16, 2007 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I posed that (those) questions objectively , because although in a David Lee Roth/Van Halenesque sense I prefer PBPark it doesn't really matter WHO underwrites it as long as it stays by the Bay (And NOT Tampa Bay!). But as I said some time ago it's a friggin' shocker to be listening to a game and wonder where they're playing because you missed the corporate switch memo (Actual true story!).
by victor frankenstein on Mar 15, 2007 6:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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