A plea to all of the McCoven

with the suggestions, Irwin. I'm finding more and more lately that there are some posters who I just ignore because they rarely have anything thoughtful, funny or otherwise worthwhile to add. Not that I'm Hemingway or anything.

I think El Lefy Malo has done a good job demanding that people offer better evidence to back up their ideas. Kudos to him and the rest of you who make this site so damn addictive.

Damn, and I tried to think twice before I posted.

1.
clearly, one can disagree with the style and nature of the Giants current management.  I for one am no great fan of either Sabean or Alou.  However, sometimes I feel the comments here transcend criticism and border on personal attack.

One can say Sabean sucks without having to kick his wife and rape his dog.

2.  The cursing really needs to stop, as in now.  Grant has repeatedly stated that he wished no one would curse.  

Benitez blows a 7 run lead in the ninth??? I personally have no problems with a barrage of curse word in a 300 comment gameday thread.  However, front page stuff such as diaries and articles should problably remain a safe haven for the kids like Walrusman.

I can only give you 3, 5, and 8, with a little 6 thrown in for good measure.

But what would this site be without me occassionally saying something stupid without thinking (for reference, I recently made a note about how some people think of Lowry as "a right handed Rueter," when even I knew perfectly well he's left handed)? Oh, I also missed that Animal House reference that one time. You know, the one about the Germans. See what I mean?

But still, 3, 5, 8, and a little 6 out of 9 ain't bad.

Gets a lot quieter now. Kinda thinking it will.

I should apologize for the cussing if Kenshin was serious that Grant wished nobody would curse. I swear a blue streak in almost everything I write on here, it seems. Was he serious or am I just not reading that Internets Sarcasm thing?! Do you need an extra smiley face?

Even losing baseball is better than no baseball.

Josh, Kenshin, Goofus or those with the Power can feel free to delete this comment if it's too content-free, whiny, or equivocal.

Hey Irwin
As a Newbie here, I will gladly yield to the wishes of the vets. Of course, I would like to have the acceptance of the community.
I am a little confused on this issue.
I am looking at the diary threads, and it seems there are 3-5 a day, which to me would not seem to be overzealous.... But then again I don't have much of a point of reference.
Personally, I think I have posted more than my share of Diaries, but I think I have tried to be 1) informative 2) interesting or 3) amusing. And I think its in my nature to talk too much....
Anyways, I know you can't give examples without potentially offending people, so I will just apologize for any comments or diaries that have offended...
I have the utmost respect for this board and its people, and I am still feeling my way a bit.

Now that we have that cleared up, lets beat those Dodgers.....

Good post, Irwin. We can all lament the disappearance of the "good old days" on this site, whatever that means, but I like to think that the appearance of new users posting their comments, whatever their quality (and that's really subjective, anyway), is a reflection on what a great community this is. Grant's writing, word-of-mouth and Kruk and Kuip's strategically placed pimping has increased the site traffic, and ultimately that's a good thing, right?

I'd emphasize "Be Nice To Each Other" as the top request here. I enjoy the back and forth arguments about players and stats -- that's all great, even if the Sabermetrics used remind me how much I sucked at math. I just hate to see the disagreements with other posters turn into personal attacks. We're all fans of the same team, and most of us haven't even met one another in person. We can express our opinions without having to get into flame wars.

Oh, and I'll cut down on the swearing. I just might have to not post when Armando is pitching.

I suck.
You suck.
He, she, it sucks.
We, you, They suck. Especially the f-ing Dodgers.
  Cursing...how very very and too too. I work with idiots whose every other word is "F-ing", as in "The f-ing hammer wasn't where I f-ing put it, so I f-ing picked up a f-ing chainsaw and f-ing cut my f-ing head off. F-ing thing f-ing bled like all f-ing hell 'till I was f-ing dead."
  Now, THAT annoys the F-K out of ME. But for some perverse reason it doesn't grate as much when I read it. I suppose that's a reflection on my lack of ethics, morals, and good breeding. I don't know, folks, as long as we're all pulling in the same direction and not throwing things at each other...are we on display at the Louvre? Is Grant's grandmother looking in with obvious disapproval?
  Still, I enjoy the wit and wisdom I find here...and so as not to seem a boor I'll do the right thing and attempt to clean up my f-ing language.

1.) Don't think before you post.  Its what makes gameday threads hilarious.
2.) Fuck the facts.  My opinion is all anybody needs to know.
3.) WTFGAS about grammar and punkshew whatever?  Are you a fucking English teacher?
4.) Proofread?  See point 3
5.) There are no new opinions to  add.  The Giants suck big green rocks.  And it hasn't changed in a couple of years.  
6.) Fuck being nice to each other.  This isn't river dancing with a ball, or tennis or golf or any of those other pansy games.  Baseball, like football, is played by rough men with rough language, as much as the fucking poets and effete's would have you believe otherwise.
7.) Complaining is not to be confused with ripping assholes.  Good rips are interesting to read and add to to the vocabularies of others.
8.) Ripping new assholes is fun cuz its all tongue-in cheek.  I reserve my biggest ass-rips for my closest friends which includes none of you fucking losers, suckbag whinefreaks, or hardball poseurs.
9.) Felipe is still an asshole and an incompetent,  Peter Magowan is still a meddler and Shea Hindenburg is a shitty Franco-German Restaraunt in Ruby Ridge, Montana

Haha, well this thread pretty much went where I expected it to.  There is just no keeping a pissed off Giants fan down.

I guess if I really opposed I would just leave, but fuck(sorry Grant) that I LOVE this site!

Irwin,
You didn't list my pet peeve, when people start a diary for a topic that's already being discussed.  Of couse, I got called a "bitch" for pointing that out, so maybe you were trying to avoid the same fate. :-)

So we're supposed to hug, hold hands and sing Kumbaya? This team is bad, and I'm pissed. I'm very pissed. I love these guys like they're family, and they hurt me in ways I previously could not imagine. Half the fun of following sports is commiserating over how awful your team is. Don't take that away from me.