Community Projections: Steve Kline
I'm on very limited time today, but it works out because there isn't too much to read into Steve Kline. He's a left-handed reliever, and, uh, you know, he'll do all the little things to help a ballclub win. He'll, uh, be brought in to face lefties, and perhaps give 110%.Or something. And we're all looking forward to it. Turning Jerome Williams into Steve Kline bothers me more than getting rid of Francisco Liriano and Joe Nathan for a decent catcher.
Steve Kline
G: 78
IP: 58
ERA: 3.45
K: 39
BB: 28
It's tough for a true lefty specialist to have a high ERA, because he isn't really going to be around to allow a whole mess of baserunners. He's not going to be given many chances to allow three straight hits or walks, so it would take a combination of Kline suckitude and repeated awful performances from the guy brought in after Kline to inflate the ERA much past 4.00. Kline has only had one year with an ERA above league average (2005), but it might be a bit hard to gauge his effectiveness with the typical stats. His Baseball Prospectus card doesn't look too much different, though.
Trivia: I always thought Kline was Australian until he joined the Giants.
More trivia: Kline is a switch-hitter.
Statement of fact: I hope I never have to see him hit.
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Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
by dangjackson on Feb 22, 2006 3:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
Your numbers look about right. I agree that his ERA will be hard to pridict and really won't matter much. What will matter but you left out is his WHIP. You gave us his BBs but did not estimate the hits he would give up. So, here is my estimate:
45 Hits and therefore a 1.26 WHIP.
by giantsrainman on Feb 22, 2006 3:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
G: 66
IP: 57
ERA: 3.69
K: 35
BB: 25
by Pants Man on Feb 22, 2006 4:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
Kline's just another piece of, well, pass. For all the injuries and age issues, the season hinges on two in particular: Bonds' knee and Schmidt's comeback. If both can even perform relatively well, the Giants should be in good shape. Then again, we probably know this by now.
(Can't tell you how ready I am to watch Barry play again.)
by Kent on Feb 22, 2006 5:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
Kline:
Games: 59
IP: 52
ERA: 3.97
Whip: 1.48
K: 31
BB: 25
by Poe on Feb 22, 2006 5:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
by Poe on Feb 22, 2006 5:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Why don't you want to see Kline Hit, huh? Did you see the year he put up in 2003? .500 .500 1.000 Those numbers are eye-popping! Oh sure, go ahead and argue that he did that on just two ABs, but I'll tell you that you wouldn't know efficiency if it bit you on the butt. And it was no fluke; in 2001 he went .500 .500 .500!
He got hosed in 2004 with zero ABs, but still managed to score a run. The man (like George Micheal's butt) is a force to be reckoned with!
Goofus
Founder, GBKBITLEDM*
(*Get "Babe" Kline's Bat In The Lineup Every Day Movement)
by Goofus on Feb 22, 2006 5:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
Plus, Australian coaches tend to emphasize offense more than pitching.
by Grant on Feb 22, 2006 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by EliminateMe on Feb 22, 2006 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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G: 47
IP: 33
ERA: 4.23
K: 21
BB: 14
by leftymalo on Feb 22, 2006 5:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
How can I put this delicately...
by kenshin1 on Feb 22, 2006 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh..
by Lyle on Feb 23, 2006 5:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: How can I put this delicately...
by leftymalo on Feb 23, 2006 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally...
PS: I agree by the way. Taschner has FABULOUS abs.
by kenshin1 on Feb 23, 2006 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: How can I put this delicately...
by Goofus on Feb 26, 2006 6:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Jerome Williams
Games started: 30
IP: 186
ERA: 4.01
K: 120
BB: 64
Wins: 14
Losses: 8
by lyricalkiller on Feb 22, 2006 5:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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There are a lot of parallels; they're both lefties, the same age and have really goofy mannerisms. I'll predict an ERA of 3.05.
by Goofus on Feb 22, 2006 5:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
Moises can administer it urino-digitally if need be.
by dangjackson on Feb 22, 2006 7:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
All sarcasm aside, I was pissed for quite some time after the Jerome Williams trade. But I'm still bothered more by the Liriano/Nathan/Pierzinski trade. Sabean has already been proven famously and fabulously wrong for that one, and will even more for the next few years.
by Blake on Feb 22, 2006 6:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Give Sabean a break. He rescued us from years of 3rd place teams, brings us, consistently, winners - all on a 3rd place budget.
by allfrank on Feb 22, 2006 8:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by zachls on Feb 22, 2006 10:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by mxmob33 on Feb 22, 2006 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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At the time, the trade was:
Mid-level pitching prospect, still promising, but coming off a mediocre AA season.
Low-level pitching prospect with great stuff, but also with a crazy injury history.
for
Arguably one of the ten best offensive catchers in the game, at the time.
First round pick falling out of grace.
for
An expensive setup man chased out of Chicago by a pitchfork-wielding mob.
by Grant on Feb 22, 2006 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
The Williams trade burned right from the beginning... Sabean sold VERY low on Williams... he essentially dumped him. The organization gave up on him, and even if they are proven correct in doing so, they vastly underestimated his trade value. They bought low on Hawkins... the Cubs would have been happy just to unload his contract. Hell, Aardsma straight up might have been enough to get the job done. Meanwhile, while our bullpen needed help, this trade was made at a time when Schmidt obviously wasn't right, Lowry was struggling, and Rueter was getting shelled. Twenty boring, consistent solid starts like the ones Williams gave the Cubs would have helped the Giants much more than any set-up man could have.
It was a bad trade for 2005, and for 2006, it left us with a $5M set-up man with a shaky reputation (who had to be packaged with cash to obtain a run-of-the-mill veteran lefty reliever) instead of a solid young starter with a high ceiling making less than $400K.
by Pants Man on Feb 23, 2006 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
by Martin BiasedGiantsFanatic on Feb 23, 2006 9:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
by The Balls of Summer on Feb 25, 2006 12:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Apropos of nothing...

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by Grant on Feb 22, 2006 11:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by David Arnott on Feb 23, 2006 1:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Skaldheim on Feb 23, 2006 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by David Arnott on Feb 23, 2006 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
IP: 59
ERA: 3.29
K: 34
BB: 25
HR: 6
W-L: 3-3
by nick on Feb 23, 2006 6:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re: Community Projections: Steve Kline
I also agree the Hawkins trade seemed at the time to be a panic move to try to save the 05 season, which, looking back, couldn't have been saved. Even with Nathan.
I just think Sabean gets roughed up because he isn't perfect. Imagine that.
by allfrank on Feb 23, 2006 12:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Eine Kline Nachtsituationalpitcher
by multiphasic on Feb 23, 2006 3:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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