Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Please, God, let us get Andy LaRoche. Please. I'll stop thinking evil thoughts about the Dodgers, anything.

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by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Mar 1, 2008 9:55 AM PST reply actions

laroche..

..would be a nice addition, but word is his defense is on the average side. Since offense remains somewhat overvalued compared to defense, I wouldn't expect him to available for a fair price.

Of course, if the Dodgers were going to go all Mariners about it trade him for peanuts, I'd be on that trade like white on rice.

by wcw on Mar 1, 2008 9:57 AM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I have no faith in team management to make moves that are actually beneficial for the team. I have less faith in Dodger team management to make moves that are actually beneficial for their team. I hope this all balances out and we get a 3B that's worth something like Andy LaRoche.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 9:58 AM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Inge!

Still the proud parent of Notgardo Alfonzo; hoping for a perfect spring.

by tk on Mar 1, 2008 10:14 AM PST reply actions

INGE

Get it done special agent Colletti.

by Cainer on Mar 1, 2008 10:17 AM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Maybe Colletti will swoop in on Crede just to block Sabean! Hey a guy can dream. It is spring training after all.

... and by the way Dodgers should always suffer like they are back in Brooklyn before World War II.

by daveinexile on Mar 1, 2008 10:38 AM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

If you're going to dream, you might as well dream BIG.

How about this blockbuster: I have a vision of the Giants only losing 90 this year, instead of the expected 125.

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Hhmm I thought this was a far less likely dream to occur then a less then 90 loss season. Of coarse the proverbial snow ball in hell has better odds then both.

... and by the way Dodgers should always suffer like they are back in Brooklyn before World War II.

by daveinexile on Mar 1, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions

Proverbs: The Lost Chapter and Verse

And Daniel (Ortmeier) smote the snowball from both sides of the plate.

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Proverbs: The Lost Chapter and Verse

With a wet noodle?

... and by the way Dodgers should always suffer like they are back in Brooklyn before World War II.

by daveinexile on Mar 1, 2008 11:03 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Thank you. This is my dream as well.

The 2008 San Francisco Giants: Years of neglected rebuilding, continued.

by jasomack on Mar 1, 2008 11:29 AM PST up reply actions

oh man

If we got LaRoche i think i would cry tears of joy....

by baetown415 on Mar 1, 2008 10:44 AM PST reply actions

Re: oh man

The tears LaRoche would shed would be generated from a more typical cause: personal tragedy.

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions

It would be bittersweet

He'd just be blocked by Dave Roberts, anyway.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 1, 2008 11:18 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I found this on Brett Harper, a complete report on the guy. It's on Scout.com (boo) and is insider content. I didn't want to paste the entire article because I don't want Grant getting in trouble. I don't give an airborne fornication about infringing Scout's copyrights because they're all jerkoffs, but no getting Grant in trouble.

Basically the report says he has power when he's healthy (like now, coming off surgery to repair a torn labrum in 2006), is big and slow, and the guy who wrote the report estimated Harper would arrive in MLB in 2009. Isn't great defensively at first. The report was written in December so it's fairly recent.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 11:19 AM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Well doesn't J.T. have a magic wand that turns crappy first basemen into gold glovers? I thought I heard that on this site. From like 30 people.

The 2008 San Francisco Giants: Years of neglected rebuilding, continued.

by jasomack on Mar 1, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

So wait... does this mean he could possibly be one of those scrap heap reclamation low risk high reward things I've heard about in stories and myth?

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 1, 2008 11:32 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

If anyone's ripe for it, he's the guy.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions

First Giants announcers of the year.

Can't wait.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 11:41 AM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I'm all for grabbing Laroche (especially taking him away from the Dodgers), but can we tone down the "I'd give my left nut for him" comments? I mean, he's not Jay Bruce for God's sake. He seems like a kid with good numbers in AAA ball but he didn't exactly mash it up in his short time in the majors last year. Yeah, yeah, small sample size, whatever, but that's kinda my point. He probably has potential but let's not get carried away here. Remember our old buddy Todd Linden? I didn't hear many "I'd give my ___ for him" comments around and sure enough he's barely on the map anymore. I'm not being a downer on Laroche. If we can get him, cool. Let's just not act as though he can single handedly help the Giants get over .500. Only Lincecum can do that. :)

-D

by dw4848 on Mar 1, 2008 11:49 AM PST reply actions

Andy LaRoche..

Hasn't had a 900 OPS in AAA yet. He's had 2 half seasons with 900 OPS in AAA. No one would give their left nut for Todd Linden. He didn't have a 900 OPS until his 3rd season in AAA. That was after even another half season in AAA.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Andy LaRoche..

That first sentence should read "Hasn't had a 900 OPS in a full season in AAA yet."

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Andy LaRoche..

Not saying that Linden and LaRoche are identical, but they put up somewhat similar numbers in minor ball. Was the closest (and most recent)comparison that I could dig out of my brain at the moment. Still, the kid isn't the second coming.

-D

by dw4848 on Mar 1, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions

Age

Specifically age to level.

Linden's 1st year in the pros was at age 22. At age 22, Linden had an OPS of 888 at AA in the Texas league, relative to a league average of 716.

At 22, 2003, in AAA, 755 OPS in 120 PA, in the PCL, relative to a league average of 761.

At 23, 2003, in AAA, 747 OPS in 511 PA, in the PCL, relative to a league average of 747.

At 24, in AAA, 810 OPS in 552 PA, in the PCL, relative to a league average of 799.

At 25, his breakout year, in AAA, 1119 OPS in 415 PAs, relative to a league average of 792.

At 26, 834 OPS in 221 PA in AAA, relative to a league average of 757.

At 27, in only 57 PAs in AAA, 1016 OPS.

At age 22, Laroche had an OPS of 905 at AA in the Southern league, relative to a league average of 690.

At AAA in the PCL, also aged 22, Laroche had an OPS 950, relative to a league average of 757.

At age 23, AAA in the PCL, Laroche had an OPS of 988, league average of 783.

It took Linden until age 25, to do what Laroche did in AAA, at ages 22-23.

They are NOT somewhat "similar".

by rfloh on Mar 1, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Age

Let that be a lesson to all McCovenites trying to write a post. If you try to make a comparison and you haven't done your homework to within a 99.99% accuracy range regarding stats, don't even THINK of saying anything that may be considered a "broad" statement. Just ain't happenin'.

-D

by dw4848 on Mar 2, 2008 5:37 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Age

On the contrary, all I ever do is make broad, generalized statements. The days I take our BBR or BBC to drop some stat learning are rare indeed. The trick is just saying things that can't be argued with.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2008 9:03 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Age

Most things can be argued with. Maybe not all, but certainly a vast majority.

Of course, I can see the other viewpoint too.

Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Steve Kline is pretty okay. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base.

by groug on Mar 2, 2008 11:59 AM PST up reply actions

Dude

I was not trying to be insulting or anything. If I came off that way, I apologise.

I could have just said age to level and left it at that, and left people to go look up both their stats. I just chose to justify my point.

And really, this is hardly a case of 99% accuracy. The gap between the 2 in terms of age is large.

by rfloh on Mar 2, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Dude

Don't worry man, the love for the Giants will keep us together.

-D

by dw4848 on Mar 2, 2008 12:37 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I get to listen to this game! I've missed you, Kuip.

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 11:55 AM PST reply actions

I know how you feel..

Although I wish it was the full Kruk, Kuip, Mill, Flem team.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 11:57 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I'm not sure if I can listen or not. Technically, I canceled my subscription, but I don't know if it's gone through yet because it's still a pending charge on my debit card. So I don't know if I can still use it while it's in the process of being canceled and I don't want to start a new account until the old one is canceled. Sigh.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Mar 1, 2008 12:01 PM PST up reply actions

You probably won't miss much...

The Giants will lose.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:04 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

It'd be pretty friggin sweet if we could yank Laroche away from the Dodgers like that, but I doubt it could happen, especially since Joe Torre really likes him and would try to convince Coletti not to do it and also because the Dodgers probably wouldn't like to trade him to us specifically. And what could we possibly use as bait? Their rotation's pretty well stacked as it is, and their bullpen is pretty decent, too. They don't really need anymore pitching, which is pretty much all we have to offer.

by boonitez on Mar 1, 2008 12:02 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

They are looking to add a center fielder.

by kennv on Mar 1, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

...to replace Andruw Jones?

by boonitez on Mar 2, 2008 1:52 PM PST up reply actions

I want a hot dog again :-(

Kwik Trip didn't have any last year.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:08 PM PST reply actions

Wow can't think and type at the same time...

last year obviously = yesterday

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:08 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Ah Zito already lulling the A's into a false sense of security. gotta love the way he so effortlessly gives up the leadoff double.

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:08 PM PST reply actions

So last year..

Was all a scam? I hope so.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Mike Sweeney. Can he play center field?

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions

Why didn't we pick him up to play 1B?

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Why didn't we pick him up to play 1B?

Cause he can't play anyfield.

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions

Oooooo

Miller pronounced a Spanish name. That feels good again.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:12 PM PST reply actions

Why isn't Omar play....

Oh.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:12 PM PST reply actions

Gotta love the Giants pitchers..

Lincecum still dealing, Zito still sucking.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions

Re: Gotta love the Giants pitchers..

That's veteran leadership right there! He doesn't want to show up the rookie!

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions

Wait for it...

THROW STRIKES, [GIANTS PITCHER]

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:15 PM PST reply actions

I don't want to.

We'll see about it later.

by Giants Pitcher on Mar 1, 2008 12:19 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Bases loaded.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:17 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

4 zip Oaktown. But we haven't had our ups yet.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:18 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Pitching and defense, baby!

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:20 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

So far Zito has given up 4R, 3 BB, 2H and only has induced 1 out on 34 pitches.

by Cainer on Mar 1, 2008 12:20 PM PST reply actions

Correction: 6R, 4H

by Cainer on Mar 1, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions

And that's enough of this game for me.

by Cainer on Mar 1, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Correction: 6R, 4H

we expect the death toll to rise throughout the day.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:22 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I don't believe the Dodgers want Inge. We heard about them wanting a dozen third baseman this offseason including Pedro Feliz and they didn't get any of them, or vigorously chase any of them. They already have Nomar and LaRoche. And if they did trade for Inge and decided to trade LaRoche, the Giants would be the last team they would trade him to. We are going with the status quo at third base and that's our own Joe Crede.

Randy Messenger's biggest fan, although I will drop him like a hot potato when we get Joe Crede

by rxmeister on Mar 1, 2008 12:23 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:23 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:27 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Ah come on Jon and Dwayne, it's not franny's fault.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:23 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Zito is obviously once again feeling the pressure of his big contract in this meaningless exhibition game.

Randy Messenger's biggest fan, although I will drop him like a hot potato when we get Joe Crede

by rxmeister on Mar 1, 2008 12:23 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

This is just amusing.

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:23 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

throw that weak ass shit again, barry.

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:24 PM PST reply actions

Hey Natto..

Do you like my strikes?

by Giants Pitcher on Mar 1, 2008 12:25 PM PST reply actions

Re: Hey Natto..

I predict that this act will notfail all year.

NL West TempestTeapot...the AL doesn't care WHO you sign.

by victor frankenstein on Mar 1, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I'm pretty sure I could do what Zito just did, and for, like, half the price.

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:27 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

For a team that will count on strong starting pitching, we have now seen ridiculously bad starts from everyone other than Lincecum. At least we get Matt Cain tomorrow in the televised game, so we might look like a major league team.

Randy Messenger's biggest fan, although I will drop him like a hot potato when we get Joe Crede

by rxmeister on Mar 1, 2008 12:27 PM PST reply actions

TV?

Anyone know if dish MLB packages will have this on it? Maybe I could convince my coworker to let me come over and watch...

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions

How appropriate

The Lord of the Dead enters the scene.

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:28 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:28 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Mike Sweeney.
Is there anything he can't do?

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:29 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

against the giants, i mean.

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions

I'm not trowing strikes yet...

You didn't say the magic word.

by Giants Pitcher on Mar 1, 2008 12:33 PM PST reply actions

Ballgame!

Wait, that was just the first half of the first inning?

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:34 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

"The A's don't have a chance now!"
--Jon Miller

Thank God for JM.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:34 PM PST reply actions

Damn...

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions

Jon Miller...

"The A's don't have a chance now!"

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions

Re: Jon Miller...

yeah, there was totally an exclamation point at the end of it.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Time for some goodluck RBI bong hits.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Did Kuip just say "return of the Crazy Crab"? I'M IN!!

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:36 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

"Giants got em where they want em, heh heh"
-Kuip.

At least it will be a humorous season.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:40 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Off to a fine start this inning.

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:42 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

"...passed the diving rich aurillia."

i expect to here that one a lot.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:42 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

actually i think it's going to be:
"Passed the diving [giant's infielder]."

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:53 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

It's more like:

"It's a routine grounder, but...the Giants infield has the Statue of Liberty Play on...Base hit!"

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 7:30 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

How much would it cost to put a hit out on Zito?

We all hate Leeds scum.

by Cristiano on Mar 1, 2008 12:43 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Speed and what now?

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:44 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Crack

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 10:19 AM PST up reply actions

So who's pitching now?

I'll need to find a picture of him to write something on that...

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:45 PM PST reply actions

Re: So who's pitching now?

it's the duke of death
(pronounced "duck")

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions

Re: So who's pitching now?

Unforgiven FTW

Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Steve Kline is pretty okay. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base.

by groug on Mar 1, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions

Re: So who's pitching now?

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions

I can't believe this name wasn't registered...

[Giants Pitcher] will not throw strikes!

by Giants Pitcher on Mar 1, 2008 12:54 PM PST reply actions

Re: I can't believe this name wasn't registered...

it's funny cuz it's true

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions

Re: I can't believe this name wasn't registered...

its "giving up teh runz"

get it together rook!

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 10:20 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

what and defense?

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:54 PM PST reply actions

Speed.

And defense should be E. No not that one the druggy one. I guess it might be true of either.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Speed.

weed and depends?

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:57 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Speed.

Guns and Bombs

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions

ORT ORT ORT

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 12:55 PM PST reply actions

Re: ORT ORT ORT

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:57 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

so, I think it might have been a mistake to give Barry Zito all that money.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Mar 1, 2008 12:57 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

don't rush to judgment.
You have another 6 years to reach that conclusion

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

He gets better 3/4 of the way thru the season...

"I wear U.S.A. on my chest,... I'm an easy person to find" - R. Clemens

by Whipping Boy on Mar 1, 2008 8:16 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Just before tailing off in the last 13/16ths

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions

Ahhhh Spring Training games...

"Who's on the mound?"

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 12:59 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I am going to add this to "Never start Zito against the A's - Ever" File.

by kennv on Mar 1, 2008 1:00 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

So, how about dem Warriors?

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 1:05 PM PST reply actions

Not enough spirit.

The lack of warrior spirit is even more alarming than it's lack of swagger.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:07 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Not enough spirit.

Its not Warrior. Its Warts. And its not Spirit. Its Sprites. And its not swagger. Its swish. The revised theme is: Swish with Sprite-Warts.

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Zito's just getting his bad starts out of the way in Spring Training!

This is so good for the team, you guys. You have no idea.

Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base. Steve Kline is pretty okay. Nate Schierholtz cannot play third base.

by groug on Mar 1, 2008 1:05 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Not Zito's fault. Everyone knows he's just a slow starter. He'll get back to above-averageness by August.

by mxmob33 on Mar 1, 2008 1:06 PM PST reply actions

Big Guy isn't pitching very well.

I say Big Guy doesn't make the team.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:07 PM PST reply actions

Heh

Jon: (to Kuip) It looked like Bochy was looking up to you and holding a 2B glove.

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 1:08 PM PST reply actions

Is Kruk around somewhere?

And I think Kuiper should be playing CF.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

"Did you ever hit one off the wall?"
"I did."
"On the fly or on the bounce?"
"Well either one."

This is awesome. The only thing I could hope for would be if Lon Simmons was broadcasting with Miller.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:12 PM PST reply actions

Boy...

No one wants to comment with the 13-0 blowout?

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:19 PM PST reply actions

Re: Boy...

No

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by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Boy...

Hell No

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 11:18 AM PST up reply actions

Jon Miller...

"He's got the swagger of a basestealer."

Talking about Velez.

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by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:20 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

atta boy ray ray. pickin up right where you left off.

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by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 1:25 PM PST reply actions

I was going to make up this great picture...

Have a person sitting on a toilet, looking like he's happy and cheering and have it say:

"I HAVE RUNS!"

But there were a couple problems.

I couldn't find a picture like that.
The Giants don't have runs. Well at least the kind I was talking about. They just have the other kind I was talking about.

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:26 PM PST reply actions

anybody know....

has Miller ever mentioned the McCovey Chronicles?
you'd think it'd be right up his alley

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 1:27 PM PST reply actions

Haven't heard of it...

I wonder if Grant is still your McCovey Chronicles insider?

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions

Re: anybody know....

Grant Bisbee is Jedi for Obi Jon

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 11:20 AM PST up reply actions

Yikes

I just saw the live box score. 13-0. And Zito's 108.00 ERA. I know it's Spring Training, but this can't be a good sign. Oh well...at least this gives me a chance to try out a Zito picture.

by raisingcain on Mar 1, 2008 1:28 PM PST reply actions

Zito thought...

He was supposed to match his salary with his ERA in his first start. Unfortunately Bochy prevented it so he'll try better next outing.

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:29 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

this is gonna be a fun year

a's....a rebuilding club, filled with aaa and aa players, and they crush the multimillion dollar zen master

our lineup made up of crafty vets cant get a hit off 2 aaa level pitchers

sabean must be good at doleing out bjs

by bacci40 on Mar 1, 2008 1:31 PM PST reply actions

Todd Linden...

I refuse to believe Billy Beane is a genius if he signed him.

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Yay. freddie lewis in center field.

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 1:46 PM PST reply actions

Miller:

"Boy he was really sitting on that 4-1 pitch."

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I've forgotten how much I hate these Supercuts commercials.

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 1:53 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Here comes the comeback!

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 1:57 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

putting in kids = instant offense

by Tchli on Mar 1, 2008 1:57 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I went to Yahoo Sports, saw it was 15-0, and thought, "Who the hell started this game?"

As if there was any doubt.

If what I fear comes true, well...I shall adopt Joe Crede, so that way I can beat him like a redheaded stepchild... ...with my MIND.

by Gabafnerhagen on Mar 1, 2008 1:59 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

All things possible with Velez.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 2:01 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Coming to you from the Land of Many Beers

by WalrusMan on Mar 1, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I think you killed the thread.

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

i think you can blame that on the zen master

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 2:52 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Gosh, wouldn't it be nice if Threets could continue doing this for the rest of the spring, therefore maybe kicking Kline to the curb.

by shawngf on Mar 1, 2008 2:26 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I woke up this morning feeling bad for Sanchez after his poor performance yesterday and then read the boxscore today to see The Albatross being lit up.

by wilriv21 on Mar 1, 2008 2:32 PM PST reply actions

FREDDIE!

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 2:35 PM PST reply actions

Re: FREDDIE!

I just drafted him for my fantasy team, so I hope he does well this season.

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Freddie!

by Tchli on Mar 1, 2008 2:35 PM PST reply actions

STEVE HOLM!

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 2:39 PM PST reply actions

Re: STEVE HOLM!

Ha, now I want him to make the team for this reason alone.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Mar 1, 2008 2:41 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

great magellan hits a triple

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 2:59 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

ewww.
tastes like losing.

"cynical yet whimsical giants related signature"

by The Gene Hackman on Mar 1, 2008 3:03 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

looks like anderson has alot of work to do this year

wonder if he starts back in norwich

by bacci40 on Mar 1, 2008 3:07 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Now I look bad for endorsing him.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Well Felipe likes Noonan and Culberson.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 3:19 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

good to hear.

by Tchli on Mar 1, 2008 3:19 PM PST up reply actions

On the brighter side

Looking at today's boxscore it is good to see:

Bowker with a three hits
Ortmeier getting off the schneid
FDog with with a couple of ribbies and on base again
Wilson and Threets pitching scoreless innings
Velez with a couple of more hits and playing 3b
Schierholtz with a couple of SFs

by wilriv21 on Mar 1, 2008 3:27 PM PST reply actions

FDog?

Eek.

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 3:37 PM PST up reply actions

Re: FDog?

Who is FDog?

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions

Re: FDog?

Frederick Lewis III

by wilriv21 on Mar 1, 2008 3:41 PM PST up reply actions

Re: FDog?

I hadn't yet heard that incarnation of his name.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions

Re: FDog?

I think it's a wil original.

Nattowear | comics | Durham? I hardly know 'im!

by Natto on Mar 1, 2008 3:56 PM PST up reply actions

That was traumatic!

Why do we always get pwn3d by the A's? I remember this one game Tomko started where we lost 16-0 or something. Why!? Is it God's way of evening things out because their city sucks so bad compared to ours? (Oh yeah, I went there.)

Still the proud parent of Notgardo Alfonzo; hoping for a perfect spring.

by tk on Mar 1, 2008 4:01 PM PST reply actions

Re: That was traumatic!

Oakland: there is no there there.
SF: there is no good team there.

"I think I'd trust Amy Winehouse to guard my bag of coke before I'd trust Sabes to build my offense." -Dan Szymborski, Baseball Think Factory

by Lyle @ McCovey Chronicles on Mar 1, 2008 4:46 PM PST up reply actions

First Aid for the demoralized

There There, Lyle.

(Pats Lyle, right there, on his punkin head).

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 7:35 PM PST up reply actions

Re: That was traumatic!

You're actually wondering why we got shelled in a game that Brett Tomko started?

I might have the answer to that question... :P

But as the topic goes, aside from last year hasn't the series record between the two teams (at least since interleague) been split pretty much perfectly?

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 1, 2008 6:56 PM PST up reply actions

Re: That was traumatic!

Tomko. Zito. Whatever. Typical surfie suckbags from LA LA land more into dating models then pitching.

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 11:25 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

At least we hit one homerun today. Joe Crede went yard.

Randy Messenger's biggest fan, although I will drop him like a hot potato when we get Joe Crede

by rxmeister on Mar 1, 2008 4:55 PM PST reply actions

SF Giants 3b

I would like to go on the record seconding Bruce Bochy that SF should give Eugenio Velez a shot at 3b. Bochy has stated that Velez has the arm strength to handle 3b. If Velez cannot handle MLB pitching Sabean then could attempt to swing a deal for another 3b.

by wilriv21 on Mar 1, 2008 4:59 PM PST up reply actions

Re: SF Giants 3b

+1

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 5:50 PM PST up reply actions

Re: SF Giants 3b

Which would, of course, block Frandsen with an even marginaler prospect.

Gotta love the mind of Bochy!

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 1, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions

Re: SF Giants 3b

How is trying out Velez at 3b blocking any SF prospect? With Frandsen set to play 2b and the OF crowded (with more prospects in the wings), Velez will need to find another position. He had been a SS and played some 3b years ago. Rather than go outside the organization to upgrade at 3b the Giants should try out all available in house prospects first. SF was already looking at Aurilia, Leone and McClain why not also include Velez?

by wilriv21 on Mar 1, 2008 7:18 PM PST up reply actions

Re: SF Giants 3b

I'm still playing the odds on Durham being handed 2B by our "words are good to lie with" GM and our Vet Fetish manager, that's how.

I'm actually happy with Eugenio getting a shot. I just don't like splitting Frandsen's ABs any more than they already are going to be. And I think if Bochy starts getting Velez-happy, Frandsen's bound to suffer.

Then again, the DL could solve all my "crappy veteran" woes....

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 1, 2008 10:19 PM PST up reply actions

Re: SF Giants 3b

I have a better idea. How about Sabean swinging a deal to swing himself from the nearest yardarm

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 11:27 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

It's getting harder and harder to think of major league starters at any position I wouldn't trade straight up for Zito.

by NearestNorwich on Mar 1, 2008 5:06 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Trading Zito for Any Other Bad Contract In Baseball is an obvious win.

by wcw on Mar 1, 2008 5:32 PM PST up reply actions

A fine idea is stillborn

Yeah, sure. Good.

But how can we trade the Zito contract for the Rowand contract?

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 7:41 PM PST up reply actions

Re: A fine idea is stillborn

Shh.
Rowand seems to be attempting to earn the contract.

NL West TempestTeapot...the AL doesn't care WHO you sign.

by victor frankenstein on Mar 3, 2008 4:23 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I don't know where else to put this, but it made me laugh and laugh. And cry. A lot. But mostly laugh.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Mar 1, 2008 7:45 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Caption: Ya MF'ers want some runs?

"I wear U.S.A. on my chest,... I'm an easy person to find" - R. Clemens

by Whipping Boy on Mar 1, 2008 8:23 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

what

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Whoah , WTF happened here?

NL West TempestTeapot...the AL doesn't care WHO you sign.

by victor frankenstein on Mar 1, 2008 7:48 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

itsonlystitsonlystitsonlystitsonlystitsonlystitsonlystitsonlyst

ain't workin'

NL West TempestTeapot...the AL doesn't care WHO you sign.

by victor frankenstein on Mar 1, 2008 7:51 PM PST reply actions

What we learned today

There's no such thing as a 108.00 ERA, right?
It's never too late, like banks caught in a subprime lending vortex, to just take a $115 million charge (Zito's remaining contract) against expected income.
The above figure is the remainder of the brilliant Zito contract orchestrated by Brian Sabean, who was far past his prime a year ago when he wrote the thing.
Bleeah.

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 8:00 PM PST up reply actions

Re: What we learned today

Zito's Spring WHIP is a never-before-heard-of 15.00

Optimist's take: That's Robust.

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 8:33 PM PST up reply actions

Re: What we learned today

If Tony Soprano owned the Giants, Zito's last start would have been yesterday. It has been proven impossible to pitch when the pitcher's whereabouts are unknown. And since there is no one to cash the checks, there will only be paper losses. Good for the cash flow.

by E Ticket on Mar 2, 2008 11:33 AM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I don't know what you all are complaining about. I dragged my family all the way from Albuquerque to see this game, and MY SON GOT AN AUTOGRAPH FROM EUGENIO VELEZ! Very patient guy, that Velez. He didn't even get mad when a kid threw a baseball at him when he wasn't looking. (Not my kid, I promise.)

Also, Threets and Wilson looked awesome, and Bowker hit everything in sight.

P.S. Scottsdale is like another world. Lots of wealthy, pretty people.

P.P.S. I'm staying at a hotel that offers free beer between 5 and 7 p.m., so it's like the perfectest day ever.

by Dan from NM on Mar 1, 2008 8:26 PM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Here in Vegas you can get free Ricin.
Which really dulls the pain of being a Giants fan , lemme tell ya. And no hangover!

NL West TempestTeapot...the AL doesn't care WHO you sign.

by victor frankenstein on Mar 1, 2008 8:37 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

What a great story. I'd freak out if a rogue baseball just flew at me. But then again I don't play second base. Eugenio does. Good hands. ;)

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 8:45 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Youjee's hands are so good, they've moved him from short to second to iron out the, uh, iron.

If he survived it, the rogue throw must have been an Eephus pitch.

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 8:53 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Plus if I were in Arizona for spring training right now AND had free booze for an alloted time period, I'd be grinning from ear to ear myself. When I went to ST in 2006 (and the AFL in November) I equated it to mainlining Prozac for the entire week.

After one game at Stade de Scottsdale in 2006 I was physically accosted, high fived, and told I have nice tits. All on the same stairwell, by different people. It's a weird place for sure.

Democracy is lovely but baseball is more mature. BVCE supports Manny Burriss and SF Dugout.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Mar 1, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

I'm attempting all that from right here.

NL West TempestTeapot...the AL doesn't care WHO you sign.

by victor frankenstein on Mar 1, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Policeman's voice, on the bullhorn: "You are surrounded. For the last time, Vic (crackle)....come down from the stairwell."

by Moggeee on Mar 1, 2008 9:07 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Not one of those things happened to me when I was there. Of course, my six-foot-four dad was behind me looking mighty tired and sunburnt, which could have been read by some prospective accosters as "cranky" and they could move on to someone with better tits. I did get complimented on my Flemming sweatshirt though -- by Cole Kuiper!

Still the proud parent of Notgardo Alfonzo; hoping for a perfect spring.

by tk on Mar 1, 2008 11:35 PM PST up reply actions

They're right.

I am surrounded.
Pass that bottle here , Boozer...

NL West TempestTeapot...the AL doesn't care WHO you sign.

by victor frankenstein on Mar 1, 2008 9:50 PM PST reply actions

Re: They're right.

(pops out from the shadows...opens the trenchcoat)

I got what you need!
Booze, ciggys, hookers, blow...I'm your man!!

Whatever you do, don't come 'round here spewing this bullshit pitching and defense shit. I don't peddle to those without a sense of reality.

Screw the Giants, but not Omar. I'm getting drunk and watching some footy.

by PacBellBoozer on Mar 2, 2008 10:54 AM PST up reply actions

Re: They're right.

Hookers in your trench coat? Dang, that's hardcore.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions

Re: They're right.

Have you seen the size of this thing?!? I've got all kinds of room in here!

My Sherpa contacts have told me with confidence that this thing is was hand stitched on the top of a mountainous peak somewhere. Supposedly, Bobby Kielty decided to trim that mess of his.

Screw the Giants, but not Omar. I'm getting drunk and watching some footy.

by PacBellBoozer on Mar 2, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions

Re: They're right.

Boozer likes to keep abreast of fans' needs.

NL West TempestTeapot...the AL doesn't care WHO you sign.

by victor frankenstein on Mar 2, 2008 11:22 AM PST up reply actions

Re: They're right.

I heard that even more than that he simply likes to keep abreast. Or two.

He is Vengeance. He is the Knight. He is Dave Righetti. PRAY TO HIM!

by howtheyscored on Mar 2, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Not that it is impossible, but why in the world would the Dodgers want to trade Andy LaRoche -- and especially to the Giants?

by sharksrog on Mar 2, 2008 1:54 AM PST reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, March 1

Today's Lineup 3/2 vs. the Cubs:

Davis, LF    .167
Velez, 3B    .455
Rowand, CF    .500
Ortmeier, 1B    .333
Alfonzo, C    .000
Frandsen, SS    .125
Lewis, RF    .600
Denker, T, 2B    .333
Cain, P

Adopted Giant Brian Wilson: Your 2008 closer.

by sfgreg on Mar 2, 2008 11:58 AM PST reply actions

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