Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

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I like to think that I'm not one of those knee-jerk fans who call in to talk radio at the first signs of distress. But I'm angry as we appear headed for our third straight losing season, after an offseason of big-spending. Our problems came be summed up with one name: Pedro Feliz. OBP: .287. SLG: 423. We are a team that doesn't walk enough and doesn't hit enough doubles or home runs. Indeed, we are 11th in the NL in OBP (.319) and tied for 11th in SLG.

Of course, our pitching (especially the starting rotation) has been better than expected. Our biggest problem has been Zito, promised by him and Boras (and believed by Sabean) to be one of the best pitchers in baseball. Instead, he is now 6-7 with a 4.41 ERA. Worse, for me, since he is our number one starter, expected to win playoff and World Series games, is his record in his five most important starts this year:

IP H R ER BB SO
Opening Day April 3 v Padres 5 4 3 2 2 2 (L)
First return to Oakland May 18 4 6 7 7 7 2 (L)
First time against Mets May 30 7 6 0 0 1 7 (W)
First time against A's at AT&T June 9 4 9 4 3 1 2 (L)
First time for Giants against Red Sox 5.1 5 7 6 4 5 (L)
Totals 25.1 30 21 18 15 18 (1-4) ERA 6.45

So how does this add up when deciding whether Sabean should get his contract extended after this year? Especially when you consider the success of the A's every year?

by tegbridges on Jun 16, 2007 10:09 AM PDT reply actions

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The Barry Zito signing likely is just the latest in a string of poor Brian Sabean moves.

by sharksrog on Jun 16, 2007 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions

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This has got to be the most asinine comment. You cannot say the ONE player on the Giants is the reason they are doing so badly. Aurilla has choked alot more times when we needed runs. In fact, everyone on the team chokes when we need a big play. To blame one player is childness. Bonds took 3 straight strikes today, lets blame him. It's hard being a Giants fan right now, they are not coming through on any level and they look like a AAA team could come in and beat up on them. But they are a TEAM, and win as a TEAM and lose as a TEAM, and as a fan you either stand behind them, through good and bad or you're not a fan!

by wolfe39 on Jun 16, 2007 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I...

am slightly suprised at how Giants fans have given Zito a free pass so far. I mean his ERA finally reflects his peripherals DESPITE moving to a league where he gets to face the pitcher 5 times a game.

Sign of the apocylapse: according to FIP (which is better measure of year to year performance than ERA) Zito is actually performaning slightly better this year (4.64) than last year (4.92)

<whew> I sure am glad we gave this man the richest pitching contract in history.

Flossing a dead horse

by kenshin1 on Jun 16, 2007 10:14 AM PDT reply actions

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I can't wait to see how he's looking by year 4!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions

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Barry Zito is too likeable and too not-on-the-offense for fans to turn on him so soon no matter how average his performance has been.

If he was unlikeable or if he was a position player, things might be different, but alas.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2007 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions

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One positive we can take from Barry Zito's performance this season. He has pitched rather well against the National League teams, fashioning a very nice 3.25 ERA.

And fortunately for Barry and the Giants, they don't play many more games against the American League.

On the other hand, if one extrapolates Barry's 14 starts this season into the 34 he made last year, we get 221.0 innings pitched last year, 201.0 this season. We have 211 hits last year, 192 in 2007. 99 walks last year, 100 this season. 151 strikeouts last year, 128 this year. 27 homers last year, 20 this year.

Barry basically has pitched about as well this season as last, probably with a slight edge to 2006. His 4.41 ERA this season is much higher than his 3.83 of last year, but as we said at the time, he was lucky it was that low in 2006.

Barry's 2005 season has been his best of the last four (including this one). His 3.87 ERA was probably pretty true. But in the other three (this one partial, of course) seasons, Barry's ERA has averaged a little over 4.20.

For this the Giants paid $126 million?

by sharksrog on Jun 16, 2007 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions

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I was watching the 9th inning of the A's-Cardinals game last night. The Cardinals were getting hammered so badly they brought in Scott Spezio to pitch the last inning.

He threw harder than Zito. No joke.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 10:51 AM PDT reply actions

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Yeah, I heard he hit 87-89 mph on the gun.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions

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I'm clinging desparately to the "career post-all star ERA of 3.26." This may be a statistical fluke, and he didn't have a strong second half in 2006, but I have to believe it's going to get better for my own sanity if for nothing else. For the money he's making he should pitch well every month, but oh well.

What bothers me more than anything is how unpleasant his starts have been to watch. Yet another way he's been much more Estes than Rueter.

"Robb Nen is going to get you" - Benito Santiago to Chipper Jones, 10/7/02

by Pants Man on Jun 16, 2007 11:02 AM PDT reply actions

Moonstruck is on TV right now

I wonder if, even before this year, Zito knew deep down that he's not the ace he used to be. Consequently, he tried to incorporate a new windup in the spring. Maybe we should've let him try it out longer.

by Dan from NM on Jun 16, 2007 11:13 AM PDT reply actions

Re: Moonstruck is on TV right now

Zito hasnt been the ace he used to be in years. Why wouldn't he have tried to change his motion as an A when it became apparent he wasn't Cy Young anymore? Maybe he just wanted to make some noise and somebody else who knows something about motion stopped him and we're all the better for it.

At the very least, he's unlikely to get hurt throwing the way he always has and he's not likely to have the control problems you could expect from somebody completely changing their muscle memory index for the first time in years.

But really, we have no way of knowing. I just don't care for the assumpion that Barry Zito-desperate-to-make-a-change automatically knew better than the guys who fix pitchers for a living.

Barry Zito has been nothing less than what we expected, and as a solid pitcher in a fantastic rotation, any changes he would have mde would have done squat to make this a winning team anyway. His pitching and his mechanics are not the problem.

Sorry, this was a bit of an overreaction to your simple comment, but consider it directed toward the total cumulation of comments that have just supposed that letting Zito do what Zito wants with his arm with no consultation and no consideration for consequence is a good idea. And there have been a lot. And they frustrate.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2007 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions

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Would this season be more or less painful if our pitching (starting and relief) were performing more in line with expectations? (that's worse for those tuning in)

I thought Sabes had a hopeless task last off season, and managed to not completely screw us. Oh, then he signed Zito. Now maybe it won't, (for example, if average salaries double by 2009), but it's sure is looking ugly now.

My (almost) 3.y.o's favorite book right now is "Ace Lacewing: Bug Detective". His sidekick is Officer Zito, a mosquito. They just remind me of each other.

by zenbitz on Jun 16, 2007 11:30 AM PDT reply actions

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Roberts CF
Winn LF
Durham 2B
Bonds DH
Molina C
Schierholtz RF
Aurilia 1B
Feliz 2B
Vizquel SS

I don't like when Durham has batted in the top thre for teh Giants, because I've never seen him do well there while he's been on this team, and Nate batting sixth, ahead of what should be 3 major league bats that should be batting in front of him, is a little disheartening.

I really don't care for that bottom 4. Reminds me a lot of the way I used to feel last year just about every day. A little nausea, a little diarrhea. And both coming back out the front way...

Go front five! Our hopes live and die with you!

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2007 11:57 AM PDT reply actions

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Question: When will "2 Win Cain" "Go Postal"?

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 12:19 PM PDT reply actions

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Once he gets some freaking $.02 stamps.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2007 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions

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is anybody else getting the cleveland/atlanta game instead?...

by travis j bagdad on Jun 16, 2007 12:27 PM PDT reply actions

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answering a question with a question, nice try.

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions

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Oh boy Tim McCarver, I'm going to go put all the sharp objects away in the house.

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 12:52 PM PDT reply actions

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Dwanee just called Matsuzaka, Mat-soo-zoo-ka. I LOL'd.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 12:55 PM PDT reply actions

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Knew it couldn't last - 8 pitches without a swing was nice.

by paboperfecto on Jun 16, 2007 1:03 PM PDT reply actions

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anyone surprised that Crisp recovered to make a great play? no. it was against us.

something interesting.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 16, 2007 1:03 PM PDT reply actions

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walking Bonds in the 1st inning? what a joke.

something interesting.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 16, 2007 1:03 PM PDT reply actions

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I'm not complaining. It's just plain stupid on the part of the Sox.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions

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he's more likely to ground out.

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions

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and Bengie's more likely to make em pay

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Media-outlet issued 756* cards

Nice to see the media take an objective stance on Bonds' possible steroid issues. Good going, WEEI, issuing 756* cards to your idiot fans.

Look, I don't care if a fan wants to make a sign or banner. But you're the goddamn media. Act like you've got some goddamn class and quit making the good ones look bad. FOAD. I hate you, Boston.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 1:05 PM PDT reply actions

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I agree in principle, but it's probably too much to expect a local sports radio station to be objective about the opponents of the home town team.

something interesting.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 16, 2007 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions

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grumble

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions

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This is probably why Barry will retire a Giant. Why put up with all that in the new AL parks where he would DH?

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions

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Suck it Drew.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 1:12 PM PDT reply actions

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it looks like Cain doesn't have it today. that strikeout was luck.

something interesting.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 16, 2007 1:12 PM PDT reply actions

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Dustin "Rogers Hornsby" Pedroia.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 1:13 PM PDT reply actions

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Ortiz shouldn't get any close calls today.

something interesting.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 16, 2007 1:15 PM PDT reply actions

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Who's first in the NL in walks?! Rick Vaughn?

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 1:16 PM PDT reply actions

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Doug Davis, evidently.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions

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The Feliz AB should be a keeper...

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 1:18 PM PDT reply actions

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His I mostly want to throw back.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions

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These announcers seem to mention that Varitek is the CAPTAIN OF THE TEAM about as often as sportswriters mention David Eckstein's height. Who cares? I don't even know who the Giants captain is.

Bruce Froemming is retiring? HALLELUJAH!

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 1:22 PM PDT reply actions

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There are worse umpires.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions

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Yeah, but Froemming combines lousy umpiring with being a lousy person.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions

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Is this hockey?

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions

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Way to hustle, Manny.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 1:24 PM PDT reply actions

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Eh? That was a double off the bat.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions

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Watching him jog after the ball was amusing.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions

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Vizquel looks done. It's not just that he's been hitting the ball right at anyone, he's not even making contact.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 1:27 PM PDT reply actions

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That sure was a captain-y pop-up.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 1:33 PM PDT reply actions

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whoa, Matt doesn't have 18 walks yet? What gives?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 1:33 PM PDT reply actions

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Who's doing the pbp? That doesn't sound like Buck.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 1:36 PM PDT reply actions

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I've never seen the Giants be this patient. It hasn't mattered, but still.

by ImFeklhr on Jun 16, 2007 1:41 PM PDT reply actions

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WOW GREAT BUNT RAY.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 1:41 PM PDT reply actions

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That whole merengue/disco/Pee Wee Herman exchange on the radio was the best thing I've heard all day. I'm still laughing.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 1:41 PM PDT reply actions

Zito and cash for Matsuzaka

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 1:42 PM PDT reply actions

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We'd only need $100 million. I'm pretty sure Zito would make up for exactly $5 of Matsuzaka's current deal.

...I have $20 I can kick in.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions

ARod has 70 ribbies, has SF scored 70 runs?

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 1:44 PM PDT reply actions

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how the fuck do we keep letting Crisp and Lugo get on base?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 1:46 PM PDT reply actions

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nice hustle, Bengie.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 1:49 PM PDT reply actions

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So what happened to Joe Suck? Why isn't he there defiling the broadcast with McBlowver?

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 2:01 PM PDT reply actions

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Rich Aurilia reminds me of Pedro Feliz at the plate.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:03 PM PDT reply actions

but without the power

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions

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yeah, I was going to add that "except he doesn't occasionally hit a HR."

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Schierholtz may be a MLer one day

but time to send him back down and return Ortmeier

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 2:04 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Schierholtz may be a MLer one day

..there's no question Schierholtz is in above his head in the NL, but Ortmeier is more overmatched still, and older to boot.

Still, I'd rather see him up, too. Schierholtz needs to play every day. He should be better in two years.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Padres won, Schmidt is dealing

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 2:06 PM PDT reply actions

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Balls.

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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions

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Thank you so much for finishing that sentence.

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by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2007 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions

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Game over.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:09 PM PDT reply actions

Set

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions

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Manny being Manny.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 2:11 PM PDT reply actions

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I hate Ramirez. I hate Youkilis too.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 2:11 PM PDT reply actions

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man shut the fuck up, McCarver.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:11 PM PDT reply actions

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The button for which you are looking is labeled "mute".

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions

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My dad won't watch a game with no sound and we couldn't get the radio to work.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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I am so sorry.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions

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please don't fall apart now, Matt.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:13 PM PDT reply actions

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I guess he missed the memo asking him to stop fucking up.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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Just got here. Going out in a second, too. Sounds like an average Cain start so far. -12 runs for the Giants, and the loss...

Go team!

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2007 2:13 PM PDT reply actions

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and by the way, why did Winn just stand there for Youkilis's single?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:14 PM PDT reply actions

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He's awed by Fenway or something.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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Matt Cain for Manny Ramirez was being discussed?

by giants92388 on Jun 16, 2007 2:14 PM PDT reply actions

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'tain't gonna happen.

Morris, now..

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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LOL. What a fucking liar.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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hahahaah shut the fuck up Rosenthal, that deal was NEVER discussed.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:14 PM PDT reply actions

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Isn't it sad that Cain gives up one HR and we all expect the game to be over?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:18 PM PDT reply actions

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It just reflects the punchless lineups the team fields.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

1 run 4 innings at Fenway

I would take that from any SF pitcher. Do not like the 77 PC

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions

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Pedro sucks.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:21 PM PDT reply actions

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I am a Red Sox fan.

Matt Cain for Manny Ramirez was never heard by anyone. Rosenthal just made that up.

by Bitter Fan on Jun 16, 2007 2:23 PM PDT reply actions

In the winter there were SF/Boston trade talk

about SF possibly trading for Ramirez. Don't know the particulars but I definitely could see the Red Sox asking for a pitcher like Cain or Lincecum.

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions

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Omar sucks.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:23 PM PDT reply actions

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Haha, Omar is angry.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:24 PM PDT reply actions

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This Dice-K guy might be pretty good.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 2:26 PM PDT reply actions

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pfft, he's not a *~*proven*~* Cy Young pitcher like our Barry Zito.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions

then let's pay him less to pitch for SF

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions

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I appreciate one pitch outs from the other team.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:30 PM PDT reply actions

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I'm fine with losing by one-run in a pitcher's duel.

I just hate only having 2 hits.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:33 PM PDT reply actions

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Eh, I'd rather have 2 hits and no runs than 8 hits and no runs.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions

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They hit a hanging slider over the Monster.

We swing through them.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:35 PM PDT reply actions

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walk. comeback time.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:36 PM PDT reply actions

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Nice AB, Dwight.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:36 PM PDT reply actions

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HOLY SHIT TWO BASERUNNERS IN ONE INNING

WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:37 PM PDT reply actions

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2-on, nobody out, let's see what the fuck happens.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:37 PM PDT reply actions

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Two strikes already. I call GIDP.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions

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..I was close. DP ball, but the overshift cost 'em a baserunner.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions

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now, luckily, we can't.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions

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okay.... 2-on, one out.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

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omg *~*productive out*~*

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

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Whelp, Bengie's up so.....

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

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We have bad luck, guys.

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by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:41 PM PDT reply actions

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I've seen this movie before.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 2:41 PM PDT reply actions

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Nate now would be the time for you to do something.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 2:41 PM PDT reply actions

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great, put the rook in a shit situation.......

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:42 PM PDT reply actions

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Sacrificial lamb. He clearly can't handle quality offspeed stuff.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions

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only feliz would swing at that.....

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:42 PM PDT reply actions

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what the fuck is Schierholtz swinging at?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:42 PM PDT reply actions

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might as well try and steal home.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:43 PM PDT reply actions

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Too bad it's not B.Mo. at third. That steal attempt I'd pay to see.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions

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Ow, fuck.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 2:44 PM PDT reply actions

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Way to take one for the team

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:44 PM PDT reply actions

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That was a gift.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:45 PM PDT reply actions

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Way to take one for the team! I like this rookie.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 2:45 PM PDT reply actions

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Rich, Rich, Rich....

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:45 PM PDT reply actions

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...late

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:45 PM PDT reply actions

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It's so sad Aurilia can't catch up with fastballs down the middle anymore

by giants92388 on Jun 16, 2007 2:47 PM PDT reply actions

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Yeah, I think his career is over. Too bad -- I always liked him.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions

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Richie's bat is slooooooooooooooooooow.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:47 PM PDT reply actions

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I'd take this one.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:48 PM PDT reply actions

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Worthless, the lot of em.

Justice for Heysel. YSB.

by Tajiri on Jun 16, 2007 2:48 PM PDT reply actions

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Fuck that.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:48 PM PDT reply actions

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fucking BS.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:48 PM PDT reply actions

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but that was way too close to take. Aurilia is horrible.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions

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uh 2 year contract

by giants92388 on Jun 16, 2007 2:48 PM PDT reply actions

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that was the strike. This is the end of rich aurilia

The Cowart Report. Adam Cowart has been adopted

by April3rdLifeBegins on Jun 16, 2007 2:49 PM PDT reply actions

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fdknsdbkfw56784t743818279 4ujherguip headdesk

by Caught Backcourt on Jun 16, 2007 2:49 PM PDT reply actions

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that was the strike. This is the end of rich aurilia

The Cowart Report. Adam Cowart has been adopted

by April3rdLifeBegins on Jun 16, 2007 2:49 PM PDT reply actions

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I bet Dice-K hit Nate on purpose to get to the piece of shit that is Rich Aurilia

The Cowart Report. Adam Cowart has been adopted

by April3rdLifeBegins on Jun 16, 2007 2:50 PM PDT reply actions

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This team is just plain annoying, like your typical Boston fan.

Justice for Heysel. YSB.

by Tajiri on Jun 16, 2007 2:50 PM PDT reply actions

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When is football season again?

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:51 PM PDT reply actions

In fairness to Aurilia, he is a little banged up

Let him get healthy before we bury the fella

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 2:51 PM PDT reply actions

Re: In fairness to Aurilia, he is a little banged

So that explains the rest of the season.

Justice for Heysel. YSB.

by Tajiri on Jun 16, 2007 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: In fairness to Aurilia, he is a little banged

why won't he go on the DL? He's not helping the team in any way at all at the moment.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions

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Cain has pitched 10x better than dice-k. And he'll get the loss again.

by vish on Jun 16, 2007 2:51 PM PDT reply actions

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The Giants purposely avoid scoring runs for him. This is ridiculous.

by Caught Backcourt on Jun 16, 2007 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions

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It does seem that way.

Still, he's thrown a few hangers.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions

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the 2nd pitch was higher.

The Cowart Report. Adam Cowart has been adopted

by April3rdLifeBegins on Jun 16, 2007 2:52 PM PDT reply actions

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Why did I ever expect this team to do something exciting?

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 2:53 PM PDT reply actions

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1 for 26 with RISP isn't very good, Giants.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 2:53 PM PDT reply actions

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I miss the days when Ortmeier and Lewis would get us on base half the time.

I think this "streak" started game 1 vs. the A's when we had bases loaded with 1 out in the bottom of the ninth and couldn't get a fucking run in. That's when it started, that crazy fucking day.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 2:57 PM PDT reply actions

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Feliz is the guy that needs to get hot.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:00 PM PDT reply actions

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mehh, just trade him then.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions

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Yeah...he'll get back to you on that.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions

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Pedro sucks.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:01 PM PDT reply actions

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Omar really sucks.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:02 PM PDT reply actions

Why are they alwaysy showing bunt?

Dice K seemed to field well earlier, and Lowell is pretty slick with the glove. Is this the only way they think they can get a hit?

by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Jun 16, 2007 3:03 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Why are they alwaysy showing bunt?

it's probably that they just aren't a very smart team.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions

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This umpire sucks

The Cowart Report. Adam Cowart has been adopted

by April3rdLifeBegins on Jun 16, 2007 3:05 PM PDT reply actions

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Is it redundant to say this umpire is full of shit?

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 3:05 PM PDT reply actions

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He's been calling outside all game.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions

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Dice-K >>> Zito. And cheaper too. Why did we hire that Far East scout again?

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 3:06 PM PDT reply actions

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Well, at least the umpire is apparently a nice guy.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:08 PM PDT reply actions

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another outstanding outing by Cain and he'll probably get another loss.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:11 PM PDT reply actions

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Zombrano knows how Cain feels.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:12 PM PDT reply actions

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Soon Cain will start fights with his teammates? I actually would see this coming soon.

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions

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This kind of game is not good for Cain's psyche.

by Caught Backcourt on Jun 16, 2007 3:12 PM PDT reply actions

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His psyche will be fine.

I worry what the repeated 110+-pitch outings are doing to his 22-year-old arm.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions

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You and me both. Sixth straight start with 110+ pitches.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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I've been waiting for the inevitable arm pain for awhile now.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions

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I'm watching his BB/PA rate. He's already up from ~10% last year (already too high) to ~12% now. If he keeps holding down the walks, I'll breathe easier. When the control starts getting even worse, think injury.

by wcw on Jun 16, 2007 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions

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Yeah, I've been watching his arm angle pretty closely too and hoping that I could actually pick up on it if it started dropping.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions

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Uncharacteristic outing on Cain, kept the walks down but also didn't get many strikeouts.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 3:14 PM PDT reply actions

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I'll take it any day.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions

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Yeah, obviously, though I still liked his second half last year better where he was limiting the walks AND striking out a batter an inning.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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I'd rather see him keep the picth count down, and strikeouts don't help that.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions

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Yeah, but strikeouts are the key to keeping the hits down too over the long term.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions

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Lots of strikeouts + little walks is ideal, but given the choice, I'd rather see a low walk, low K outing than the opposite.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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Cain is going to "lose it" before this season is over.

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 3:14 PM PDT reply actions

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IT'S RALLY TIME

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:16 PM PDT reply actions

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another leadoff walk.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:17 PM PDT reply actions

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I'd take this one the whole way....

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:19 PM PDT reply actions

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..... or not.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions

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This is familiar.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:20 PM PDT reply actions

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this game would be huge for our morale.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:21 PM PDT reply actions

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I hate the left ear crucifix

by John Tamargo on Jun 16, 2007 3:21 PM PDT reply actions

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it's retro and youthful

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

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it's so yesterday

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

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I guess this guy was due for a bad outing. The question is... will we be able to take advantage?

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

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At this point I care more about them scoring one just to get Cain off the hook.

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 16, 2007 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

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nice to see another teams pen fold a game

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

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don't jinx it

by John Tamargo on Jun 16, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

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not yet.....

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions

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sorry

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions

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That was a hell of a pitching coach visit.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:23 PM PDT reply actions

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Swing the fucking bat, Barry.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

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How abotu fucking swinging the bat

by giants92388 on Jun 16, 2007 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

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can't get a hit, if you don't swing.

something interesting.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 16, 2007 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

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I've seen this movie before.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:24 PM PDT reply actions

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then you know how it ends

something interesting.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 16, 2007 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions

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Ugh. Guess we need some more of Momma's whomp-ass...or some fountain of youth!

by reeky on Jun 16, 2007 3:25 PM PDT reply actions

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Will momma's whomp ass work on the rest of the team?

by John Tamargo on Jun 16, 2007 3:26 PM PDT reply actions

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It didn't over the past week. Bonds looks like he thinks he's seeing the ball, but really isn't. Those inside pitches used to be his wheelhouse.

by reeky on Jun 16, 2007 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions

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Bengie has fallen back to Earth.

THIS TEAM FUCKING FAILS AT LIFE.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:27 PM PDT reply actions

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What happened to Bengie's 2 out magic?

by John Tamargo on Jun 16, 2007 3:27 PM PDT reply actions

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It was only one out. We should have given them another one.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions

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thanks......I'm so pissed I was just assuming they already had 2

by John Tamargo on Jun 16, 2007 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions

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There was only one out...

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 16, 2007 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions

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Pitching Coach said: "Throw strikes, meat."

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 3:30 PM PDT reply actions

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Oh well, it's not as if we didn't expect this outcome.

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 16, 2007 3:31 PM PDT reply actions

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Yeah...the boat still sinks.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:31 PM PDT reply actions

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we suck

by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2007 3:31 PM PDT reply actions

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they suck.

i'm not a part of them. i just watch and root.

by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2007 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions

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wow that was a hell of an AB kevin. SO gritty!!!!

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:31 PM PDT reply actions

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Just another loss... the mantra of a Giants fan.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 3:32 PM PDT reply actions

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well at least he called that pitch for us too.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:36 PM PDT reply actions

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Sure, WTF, the Soxs don't care, they have their 1 run.Game over.

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 3:37 PM PDT reply actions

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throw strikes... ah screw it.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:38 PM PDT reply actions

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At least it was a well-pitched game (go bullpen!) and Cain is part of our future (assuming Sabean doesn't trade him for Willy Mo Pena). Small consolation, but we gotta scratch for it...

by reeky on Jun 16, 2007 3:38 PM PDT reply actions

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Update: At least it was a well-pitched game by Cain...

by reeky on Jun 16, 2007 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions

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Coco wants the Giants to move to the AL.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:39 PM PDT reply actions

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CoCo & J.D. -- didn't they chase Smokey and the Bandit across the South over a truckload of Coors?

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions

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Pooooooooooooooop. Come on Kevin.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:39 PM PDT reply actions

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bottom of the order.

call it over.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:40 PM PDT reply actions

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That works. I can live with the loss if both Matt and Kevin pitched well.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:40 PM PDT reply actions

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I say it's over in 7 pitches.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:41 PM PDT reply actions

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Rich done in 1.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions

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Feliz done in 4.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

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well was wrong but the outcome won't differ.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions

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Well this should be fun to watch.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:43 PM PDT reply actions

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AURILIA!!!!!

This has been a test of the Emergency Aurilia Praise System. In the event of an actual reason for praising Aurilia, grab a shotgun and head to the basement. Don't open the door for anyone. ANYONE.

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 16, 2007 3:44 PM PDT reply actions

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He almost saw that Fastball.

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions

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Well, there's one pitch.

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:44 PM PDT reply actions

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Is Klesko injured?

by cheno on Jun 16, 2007 3:46 PM PDT reply actions

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I like how as soon as Varitek stood up, I knew Feliz was going to swing at the pitch.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:46 PM PDT reply actions

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I love how our last hope comes down to Mark Sweeney...

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 16, 2007 3:47 PM PDT reply actions

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I love how morris is pitching tomorrow so we have a chance to limit them to less than 2 runs again.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:49 PM PDT reply actions

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and still lose, no?

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 16, 2007 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions

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Fuck you Bonds.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:49 PM PDT reply actions

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Jon Miller on the radio says Sweeny fulfilled a lifelong desire to play in Fenway last night...he was a Boston boy.

by reeky on Jun 16, 2007 3:49 PM PDT reply actions

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Did Miller mention if he fulfilled a lifelong desire to suck at Fenway?

by John Tamargo on Jun 16, 2007 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions

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Uh, no. But good point. At least he took us past 7 pitches.

by reeky on Jun 16, 2007 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions

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If I were Cain, I'd ask for a trade.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:50 PM PDT reply actions

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BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

by reeky on Jun 16, 2007 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions

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I don't give a fuck anymore.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions

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why the fuck is Papelbon so excited? He shut down the 7-8-9 of the Giants shitty-ass batting order. Get over yourself.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.

by jponry on Jun 16, 2007 3:50 PM PDT reply actions

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I PITCH FOR A TEAM THAT DOESN'T FUCK ME ON RUN SUPPORT YAY ME

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions

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Well, we can all take solace in the fact that Schmidt sucked again today for the Bums.

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 16, 2007 3:52 PM PDT reply actions

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Remember when the Giants scored 13 runs against the Phillies?

That was cool.

by John Tamargo on Jun 16, 2007 3:54 PM PDT reply actions

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yup, back when LEWIS and OTRMEIER were playing.

what the fuck is wrong with playing them??

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions

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Lewis is on the DL.

Couldn't tell you why not Ortmeier....they sent him down for Schierholtz who hasn't done squat

by John Tamargo on Jun 16, 2007 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions

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SF Giants Pitching
8th best ERA in the majors
Most complete games in the majors

SF Giants Hitting
26th best team batting average
25th best extra base hits

Wish I had the team stat for runners left on base and hits with runners in scoring position

Anyone?

by John Tamargo on Jun 16, 2007 4:02 PM PDT reply actions

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If I remember correctly, the Giants were actually hitting better than expected with runners in scoring position. That's why they aren't in the bottom of MLB in runs scored. I think. Could be wrong.

Wretched, nonetheless.

by Grant Brisbee on Jun 16, 2007 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Makes sense

Its because they are like 23rd in OBP (dead last sans Barry) that they haven't scored much.

by awesomer @ McCovey Chronicles on Jun 16, 2007 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Makes sense

They haven't scored much because not everybody can bat 8th

Save Matt Morris. Save The Pitchers. Save The World.

by E Ticket on Jun 16, 2007 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

So when does Cain start punching the position players for their inexcusable sucking on offense?

Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Not boring: Emmanuel Burriss. Not fascist: SF Dugout

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jun 16, 2007 4:13 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

after he asks for a trade.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

If I were the Giants SP, I'd call out the hitters publicly on radio or something because this is just pathetic.

Aaron, always number #1 in my book.

by jtoj on Jun 16, 2007 5:02 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

You can't do that as a player, and I love Cain for the fact that he hasn't been doing that.

I'm sure he thinks it, and tells all his friends and family how he'd rather see Matt Morris at the plate every time Omar Vizquel steps in the box.

But you CAN NOT do it publically. You can't.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2007 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

I'd actually bet that most of the pitchers are okay with Omar's horridness at the plate because at least they can see him saving them runs on defense. I'm sure they're much more frustrated by the general suckitude of Richie, Ray-Ray (in current slump form), Winn, and Roberts.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 16, 2007 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

Yeah, I just needed an example. I'm sure even Matt Cain is hard pressed to complain about Omar.

Coming to you by proxy (I adopted: Dave Righetti!)

by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2007 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

Hey, at least tomorrow's game will feature our own Pedro Feliz trying to hit a knuckleball. That should be entertaining.

Barry Zito: Mike Hampton with a guitar

by JakeS on Jun 16, 2007 8:19 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

Holy cow. I just checked the standings and realized we're NINE games out of first and FOUR-AND-A-HALF games out of fourth place. We're firmly entrenched in the cellar for at least the next week.

Lon Simmons' adopted dad.

by Kitspool on Jun 16, 2007 10:02 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

the exact inverse of 1st place.

by Whipping Boy on Jun 16, 2007 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

Dear Giants,
You suck.
Love,
Natto

P.S. Tell Cain to hang in there.

P.P.S. You can't see it, but I'm shaking my fist at you, offense.

Mandowear | comics | Ray - sent to his room until he hits

by Natto on Jun 16, 2007 10:57 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

Can someone please explain to me how a team can score ZERO RUNS AT FENWAY? Quite a feat.

by mdoeff on Jun 16, 2007 11:17 PM PDT reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

It's not possible. Unfortunately, the Giants aren't a team.

Mandowear | comics | Ray - sent to his room until he hits

by Natto on Jun 16, 2007 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Didn't SF score 2 runs in the first inning on

Friday and have yet to score again?

by wilriv21 on Jun 16, 2007 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Open Gameday Thread, 6/16

Having been an advocate for Le 55 before switching to Le Z (common thread: both lefthanded, both people i would the opposite of kick out of bed), I must say that Zito projects himself as much more even-keeled, a blend of arrogance and Zen. Shawnee (as I once called him) blew his top every now and then. It was horrific and spectacular. I still remember October 5, 2001, as the day Estes left the Giants, not for the other thing.

Of course, maybe Barry Z is repressing. I wouldn't mind a good old burst of passion as long as he doesn't get injured doing it.

supporting baseball pr0n since 1999

by shanghaijim on Jun 19, 2007 12:50 AM PDT reply actions