Justin Christian and the 40-Man Roster
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 11:59 AM PST
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PrintA couple of days ago, Justin Christian was answering questions at Giants Media Day. Today, he's wondering which organization he's going to play with in 2012. The 31-year-old outfielder was designated for assignment today to make room for Guillermo Mota and Ryan Theriot. This is the kind of move that can put the colon-open-parentheses into a fella's heart.
In pure baseball terms, this isn't a big deal. It's probably not that close to a small deal. This is the rounding error of rosternomics, as there will always be a Justin Christian looking for work somewhere. The Giants have had Adam Shabalas and Julio Ramirezes on the roster before, and they'll have similar players on the roster in the future. For some reason, though, I was especially attached to the idea of Christian as a fifth outfielder on this team.
Maybe that's just because my subconscious can make a forceful argument, and it hadn't forgotten about this play:
Maybe it's because I know there's a small-but-real chance that Christian could be the third-best hitter on the team (not really … but you had to think about it for a second, right?) Don't know. But where the focus of my unrealistic optimism used to be with scrappy utility infielders like Brian Dallimore and Matt Downs, now I have a soft spot for over-30 center fielders who tear up AAA.
This is, of course, the Andres Torres Effect.
Andres Torres was a fifth outfielder at best until he was vintage Mark Kotsay at exactly the right time. Torres was a AAA dynamo who morphed into something more after turning 30. This doesn't happen often. Or ever, really. But it happened to the Giants, so now I'm all screwed up, figuring out ways to get Christian back on the roster.
- Do the Giants really need Chris Stewart and Eli Whiteside on the roster, especially with Hector Sanchez on the 40-man in case of emergency?
- Ryan Theriot, Mike Fontenot, and Manny Burriss on the same roster seems like an exercise in redundancy seems like an exercise in redundancy.
- Putting Angel Villalona on the roster might have had more to do with a legal decision than a baseball decision, but it sure hosed the Giants here.
I'm cycling through the possibilities because Christian could be the next Torres. Speedy, plays a mean center, had some good years in AAA … this could be a huge mistake. I mean, Torres did it! Remember Andres Torres? Dude was cool. Christian could have been the Mr. Furley to Torres' Mr. Roper. Or something. A seamless transition from one guy to the next, allowing us even more chances to the underdog.
The reality is that a) there's a pretty fantastic chance that Christian clears waivers this late in the offseason, when just about every team is facing a similar roster crunch, and b) the difference between, say, Tyler Graham and Christian is negligible at best, especially when you figure that a fringe-fifth outfielder might get 100 at-bats, if that, over a full season.
The point isn't to be especially outraged that Christian was removed from the 40-man roster -- fed to the transaction lions, if you will -- but just a note that Andres Torres has ruined my perception of fifth outfielders and 25th men. It happened that one time, remember? Not sure when this will stop. Maybe it never will.
I hope you'll stick around for tomorrow's post: "Why Ryan Vogelsong has made me sit at my computer for the last three hours exploring potential trades for Jerome Williams."
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Get over Torres already...
he wasn’t all that.
by Billy Swift on Feb 9, 2012 3:07 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Perspective...
Marquis Grissom was a better Giant.
by Billy Swift on Feb 9, 2012 3:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, Grissom’s contributions toward the World Series Championship will redound through eternity.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 9, 2012 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
Clearly
Grant has forgotten about Boof.
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He needed something to write about
Material gets thin on the ground in the few weeks left before spring training. Then we’ll have more stuff. Rats, we have to wait until April before real “meaning” happens.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
Spoiler:
This whole website is about a game that grown men play.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
And politics
WHAT THE SHIT YOU HORRIBLE ILLITERATES
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
VOTE FOR MY JUNK!!
LARS’ JUNK FOR PRESIDENT!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
;)
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Feb 8, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Christian could have been the Mr. Furley to Torres’ Mr. Roper
Hard to believe a (successful) sitcom was premised on the idea that it was socially unacceptable for a man to live with two female roommates unless he was gay. The whole thing makes no sense.
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
It was based in California
anything goes out there.
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And every plot boiled down to a misunderstanding
But hey, Suzanne Somers’ boobages.
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Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
I never did understand why people found her attractive. What I did love was comparing Three’s Company plotlines to Shakespeare for my high-school Shakespeare seminar. Let’s just say people don’t read Shakespeare comedies for the plots.
I never did understand why people found her attractive.
This is a line where I can stand.
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Holy Shit!
That is like something out of Escape From L.A.
/subject line click
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
That was really unnecessary, I just had lunch.
/thanks for SL
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The usual Lars lunch. Trail Mix and a bottle of water. The water was Perrier however. Mmmmm…bubbly water.
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I want to be, but have not sold mrs. nvsfg on it yet. I don’t drink a lot of soda in general, but I do drink a fair amount Pellegrino and Perrier. The occasional Root Bear as well (IBC only). I just like the idea of making my own carbonated beverages. She is probably correct and the novelty would wear off.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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We have one and love having fizzy Hetch Hetchy water. We hate the price of the refills, though. Our solution is to use the unending supply of Bloodbath & Beyond coupons for them, since they’re right at the bottom of the hill. The $5 off $15 is best, then the refills are $10.
LOL " Bloodbath and Beyond" Accurate !
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I love sparkling water as well. Feel bad about buying water, but am very unGreen in this dept.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Well, mine is sparkling water that’s imported. I am totally killing the planet and sending money to the French and Italians. I am so going to Conservationists Hell.
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At least you’re not supporting Fiji’s disturbing bottled water empire.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. That is some bullshit.
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I will only drink water from that lake they’re digging down to in Antarctica once they reach it.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
The Cat look!
but I though she was all about nature stuff! Apparently plastic surgery is nature.
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That can’t be her.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
And Joyce DeWitt looks perfectly fine for a woman in her 60’s.
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This is the second time in two days that I have forgotten a subject line. /whips himself
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Mayor of Smug.
Don’t you have a pretty girl who can do that for you?
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It’s supposed to be a punishment, not a kinky reward.
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Mayor of Smug.
Don’t you have a very ugly girl who can do that for you?
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by speckops on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He should live on the edge and not agree on a safe word beforehand.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Why would you think that?
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it's an addiction
after awhile, all you see is the flaws and not the whole face.
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That's happening to me now too
I look at that picture, and all I see are the flaws and not the whole face.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Bruce Jenner and Michael Jackson object to your sexist comment.
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What?
she’s clearly a cat!
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Whoa.
That ain’t right.
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Yikes
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
How old are you?
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Bocock
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Choppin' broccoli
by SimpleJaquez on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Matt Downs
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
He would have made The Riot redundant, and he’s a pretty cool dude.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
True,True
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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Classy
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Evidence !!
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/9/3/1667874/matt-downs-man-of-honor
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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Best moment of his time with the Giants:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=8136031&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_8136031&v=3
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
This line would have looked pretty damn good on the roster last year
.276/.347/.518 wOBA .373 wRC+ 138
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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The thing is, the Giants could really have used him with Freddy being injury prone in recent years. They just gave him away.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
He was pretty bad in 2010
He was also DFA’d to put Cody on the roster.
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And we don't really care about that right now
we are reliving all of the glory. No time for negativity. We are trying to get our 2012 optimism fu back up to full strength.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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Meanwhile, Alex Hinshaw...
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
That I can't explain
but I figure pitcher vs fielder
Of course there was always Burriss.
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Alex Hinshaw had a major league BB/9 of 7. The lowest BB rate he ever put up at AAA was five and a a half.
At least Matt Downs was at least producing at AAA.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Again
I already said I couldn’t explain.
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There were others more deserving who could have been DFA’d.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
/awkward silence
/tries not to look at Zito
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/looks at Zito
/DAMMIT
/tries not to look at Zito again
/stares openly at Zito
/GODDAMMIT
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This comment really should be recommended.
/ admits bias
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Justin Christian oh your time has come.
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+Whiteside and Burriss
Maybe Huff.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
TGWTWS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:12 PM PST reply actions
Nah, I was never attached to this dude.
I was mostly pissed when he started instead of Torres last September and proceeded to mostly blow at the plate.
yup... i never was a big fan of him... yet, i didn't watch many games last year
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The dude was a Candlestick era fan. Show some respect.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
And so am I.
I’m sorry, but my heart isn’t that big. Would I rather they have DFA’d Burris? Yes, obviously, but I also know that wasn’t going to happen.
that's how he was reported
Wasn’t awful, but I mean, he didn’t exactly blow Rowand out of the water on defense either. Dinero aside of course.
He seemed kind of slow to the ball.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Like Natto when his carriage is stuck in a traffic jam
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This made me LOL, so I read it again. Still good on a second reading.
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I'm in this line
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I don't think the Giants are worried about finding the next Andres Torres,
since they traded away the actual Andres Torres.
Also: That Rockies-Giants series was just AWESOME
So alone...
Twitter
That Rockies-Giants series was just AWESOME
With the Rockies in a weakened state and the Giants offense actually hitting well.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
This just in...
At least the Giants terrible off season didn’t make this list.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-10-worst-transactions-of-the-winter/
Hard to make a list of bad transactions when your most significant decisions were to NOT pay players.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Feb 8, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Christian isn't even as good as Bowker
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I hope Bowker goes nuts in Japan.
I really do.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
This comment totally needs a Godzilla pic with Bowker’s face and short tyrannasaur arms attached. Totally.
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You clearly forgot how bad Bowker was
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And you are clearly not aware of how bad Christian is.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Vrrrooooooooommmmmm
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Brian Dallimore
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
LANCE NIEKRO?
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Dustan Mohr
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mohrdu01.shtml
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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jeeze, didn’t he mess up his knee or something trying to catch a foul ball?
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A foul ball that he should have let drop.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
He was the first prospect I told others about.
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Can I say that I am not a fan of SBN shortening the Fanposts view and expanding the Fanshot view. What If I came here for Fanshot News ? I have made sure my settings are the same and tried in Opera, Win 9, and Opera. Is it just me ?
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This is really bad timing too, with the adoption draft about to start in the next few days or so.
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 8, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Concur...I have tried every setting and it is not correctable at this point
It’s like they’re trying to get us to look at the Fanshots ?
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i think it might have something to do with sbn tanking earlier this morning and things maybe not being fully restored?
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I hope that is the case
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This is minor news.
Yet got a long post. Grant is hoping like hell for any news.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
We all are hoping for any news...
Because news might include ways the Giants might not blow on offense
Pitchers and catchers are still so far away.
And the Giants threw up the white flag of the off season in late december.
So alone...
Twitter
We can bring back the
Girl with a Dragon Tattoo discussion.
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I never read the book but saw the original movie.
Watched it with my mother-in-law. We didn’t speak for a week after to each other.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Feb 8, 2012 12:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
This is the kind of move that can put the colon-open-parentheses into a fella’s heart.
Kyle Williams’ Knee is the kind of move that results from an open parentheses in someone’s colon.
muttermutterGoddamnluckyEliwithagoddamnhorseshoeuphisassmuttermuttergrumble
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM PST reply actions
Cost the Niners a Superbowl. The Patriots weren’t the same without Rob Gronkowski.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I think Gregor Blanco has a better chance to be Andres Torres
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You know who Baseball Reference finds most similar to Blanco at the same age? TONY GWYNN!
jr.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Gregor needs to bulk up
moar In-n-outs!
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GREGOR
Internal white whale!
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I don’t understand why he hasn’t been given a spot consistently. He hasn’t had a lot of time in the Majors, but when he has played he hasn’t done too poorly with the bat, and if you can play all 3 outfield positions decently, why aren’t people putting a player like that on their major league roster? I don’t get it.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Haterz hate walks.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
It is because he is missing a Y
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
As Gregor Blanco awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a Giants prospect.
Sundrendy!
by Deleuzian on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
This was one of the few books I bothered reading in English class.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Kafka’s German is very simple. It will make you overconfident. Then you will try Mann in the original.
Don’t.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Hm. Never read him, but I always thought his style was simple.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
German was my first language. I was born here, though, so my reading and especially writing are atrocious.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
It's going to be a long time before I stop missing Andres Torres on this team
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM PST reply actions
I'm happy for Andres.
The team is bad enough that he won’t have to press so hard, and he’ll be able to play well. He’ll end up being a really good player this year, I feel it.
I really couldn’t care less about Christian. Whatevs.
But I will miss Torress deeply.
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Harkening back to the last thread
keithlaw keithlaw
Signed nine years ago "chriscarin36: @keithlaw In rankings, you mentioned Giants having no success in intl market yet. Forget about Pablo?"
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Newsflash: When you sign a 16 year old out of the Dominican, it usually takes a while for him to make an impact.
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Mayor of Smug.
Pablo is Venezuelan though. Unless I’m missing something.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
I just meant, in general, international signings are a looooong term investment.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
LOL geography
keithlaw @keithlaw
Ohio is not a foreign country. @WarninTracPwr: @keithlaw what about jonathon sanchez?"
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
This seems excessively snarky.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
I feel like trying a good chocolate or coffee beer later, any suggestions Mayor?
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
In what portion of the country do you live? The Bay area?
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The locator on their website seems to indicate that Founders distributes to the DC area, so I’d have to recommend Founders Breakfast Stout as a spectacular coffee stout.
As far as chocolate goes, I’d recommend Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald porter, which also appears to be available in DC.
Both are some of the best porter/stout beers you can find anywhere.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
If someone just assumes somebody is an international signing
Because they have an accent. They probably deserve a little snark
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
To be fair
He was born in Puerto Rico.
Not really sure whether that counts as “international” though for purposes of this exercise. But yes, Sanchez was discovered at Ohio Dominican.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
PR is subject to the Rule 4 draft, so I can’t imagine it’d be international at this point.
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Is it really? I didn’t realize.
I just know that the players I know off the top of my head from Puerto Rico – Torres and Sanchez – were both drafted out of college.
Looks like Angel Pagan was signed out of high school in P.R. in the Rule 4 draft. So yeah, I guess you’re right.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Since about 1990, I believe. There was an article in the New York Times not too long ago arguing that the inclusion of P.R. in the Rule IV draft has actually helped kill baseball in the country.
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Because they can’t compete with the mainland high school prep and Division 1A programs?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Basically, and because the monetary incentive isn’t as high. Guys who, before, would be looking at 200K as a signing bonus are now getting signed out of the 30th round with 50K and a plane ticket to Arizona. Plus scouts don’t go to PR as often as, say, a high school in Texas or Florida, so if they want to get noticed they’ll move to the States, play HS ball here, and then on to college if they don’t get drafted.
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Aha! They got him from the Dominican! See, totally international.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Have you met our dear friend Keith?
He only has one setting.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
that's K-Law
I can’t take him seriously. He seems smart enough but he just comes off as such an arrogant douche. That and he literally never owns up to the times he whiffs. He could learn a few things from the John Sickels Handbook on How to Be Intelligent Without Sounding Like an Asshole.
I've seen him own up
albeit he does so fairly rarely. But he was wrong on Pedroia, for instance, and has readily admitted it.
I quite enjoy the snark, personally. Maybe that’s because I feel that even my favorite team deserves it, and it definitely doesn’t bother me when directed at anyone else.
(Also, he is about as high on Belt! as anyone… that has to count as a vote in his favor, no?)
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Feb 8, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
He does come off as arrogant, but he is very intelligent and he uses his connections with scouts to get a very good perspective on the players. I’ve also seen him fess up to being wrong on predictions, like saying that he missed Ian Kinsler being such a productive player. Law’s a good writer, some people just don’t like his tone or what he has to say.
That only registers like a 3.2 on the Klaw snark-scale.
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Feb 9, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
Ohio Domincan?
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Carlos Valdez...hope he takes the same path
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I don't get his point
And I believe even he is trying to avoid it. His blurb said the Giants have never had any success in the international market. Clearly, they have.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Already burned out several potential relievers while testing them out
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Also
who has success then?
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His point is he is King of the Neverwrongs.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Bingo.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Is he very down on Gary Brown, or am I thinking of someone else?
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
I haven't made up my mind about Panik yet. Too early to tell
But Law was a scout so he may see something already that he doesn’t like.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, objectively when I isolate the Giants from when he's talking
He’s by far one of the better prospect evaluators out there
But I think most scouts have been impressed by Panik’s play last year.
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Law didn't like his stance or toolset
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Right and it's not like he's anti-Giants or anything
He LOVES Belt
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I think the issue is that
he has a hard time moving off of his initial assessments.
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Most scouts also recognize that the NWL as a 21 year-old isn’t necessarily a big challenge.
My impression is that people want to see more out of him at at least A+ if not AA this year.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Correct
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yah and any scout worth anything
Isn’t going to chance there opinion on a guy based on SSS NWL performance.
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Yah he's much lower on Brown than most
And thinks Panik is going to end up a utility infielder
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Yeah, but on Baseball Today he admitted he was a bit wrong on Brown
He’s still not as high on him as some, but better.
One reason why
I am rooting for Panik to make it
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Haha this
I like KLaw, but he almost never admits when he’s wrong
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I don’t like Law, but I don’t need to like him. I read him, since he knows a lot, but I take him with a bigger grain of salt than most, because he is in love with having been right already, rather than with being right.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
This a true statement.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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What prospect writers aren't in love with being right?
In my opinion, Goldstein is the only insufferable one
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he is in love with having been right already, rather than with being right.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Not with being right — with having been right already. He is in love with old predictions. Yes, most prognosticators fall prey to confirmation bias a little, but Law imo is the worst.
As I said, I don’t need to like him. In this case, I don’t, but what I care about are his skills, not his personality.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think Sickels does a very good job of revisiting his past grades and analyzing which ones panned out and which ones didn’t. He does Prospect Retrospectives all the time, and for the past week or so has been looking at old grades and figuring out why certain players he ranked highly didn’t work out.
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
has been looking at old grades and figuring out why certain players he ranked highly didn’t work out.
Anyone worth a damn should do this. Trying to examine why you were wrong is the only way you can be more consistently correct.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
GP might to be onto something about the whole ESPN thing
Nobody on ESPN seems to spend much time admitting they were wrong.
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I do this a lot whenever I am wrong
Unfortunately I’m never wrong.
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/cue Chuck Norris jokes
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
For those interested
Here is Sickels’s wrap up on the last week and lessons learned from his re-visits of his old lists.
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 8, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I used to think that position players were more predictable than pitchers, but over the last few years my thinking on that has changed. Nowadays I am more confident in our ability to judge pitchers. Absent injuries, I think it is easier to judge pitchers both traditionally (stuff, mechanics, projection, etc) and sabermetrically.
Huh.
I wonder how much of that has to do with BABIP normalization.
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I think most of it has to do with this:
Absent injuries
it is easier to judge pitchers both traditionally (stuff, mechanics, projection, etc) and sabermetrically.
He's talked a lot about how/why he was wrong about Pedrioa
That’s the one that springs to mind. But he’s always focused on the new and upcoming players and doesn’t really do a lot of retrospective work, probably because ESPN doesn’t want him to.
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What did he say about Pedroia? Too small?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
If I remember correctly
It had to do with the length in his swing and the amount of effort Pedroia had to put in it
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The smallness had a part of it
I think I remember Law saying he also misunderstood how important contact skills were in the minors as a predictor of future success, and the Pedrioa was really good at not striking out and thus giving himself more opportunities to hit.
This was on a baseball today podcast, so I’m not sure the exact phrasing.
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Utility Schmuck.
But hey, let me tell you about Carcasonne and The Wire.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Pedrioa also hit .293/.385/.452 in AA/AAA in his second year in the minors
So let’s wait until Panik does that before we get too excited.
Also, someone needs to build a Giant wall right where Panik usually hits the ball. That should help.
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We should build a giant wall right where Huff usually hits the ball. We’d get increased performance from Huff, plus we’d have a wall to play 2nd base when Sanchez goes on the DL.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 10 recs
Haha
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
YES
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Wall would take too many pitches when at bat.
by ohcleverhansyou on Feb 8, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
It’s not that they don’t want us to look over past mistakes and stuff but simply that the general focus of coverage is forward-looking. It’s current, fresh stuff that gets eyeballs. I know I’ll try to sneak in a little history here and there, but mainly to focus a point on something currently happening.
That was what I was trying to say, but I appreciate the clarification
I liked your “biggest ZiPS misses” piece the other day.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Oh snap it's D-Szym
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Most of the side-stepping I see Keith do is on Twitter and in his chats. I wouldn’t imagine that re-hashes would be particularly publishable on a 24-cycle place like ESPN, unless it’s an annual list with some measure of “this guy wasn’t rated highly, but did such and such which was rewarded with great results.”
It’s when people are on the record over certain prospects (or divisional picks, or winners of a trade, or whatever) and get peppered with questions about it in a public forum that things get a bit more dicey, at least in my view. It doesn’t help that a lot of readers are looking to make writers eat crow because they feel slightest for their team not being covered “fairly.”
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I’m pretty used to people being able to check where ZiPS missed, so I never have a problem with eating a little crow when it’s on the menu (ZiPS is way too widespread for horrible mistakes to go unnoticed).
The “you don’t like my team!” thing is a popular complaint we get. Usually in a given winter, I’m accused of holding a biased opinion of the whole slate of teams at one point or another (never asked, but I’m sure Keith’s in the same boat).
We do really try hard to do things that people will find interesting. I know I will try to pitch stuff relevant to the “lesser” teams all the time. While people think we all sit there behind the scenes and plot to push NY/BOS coverage on people, we don’t even remotely do that.
Oops, hit send to soon.
If you guys ever feel that there’s a story that you feel could use more/better analysis, by all means say something – we try to pay attention to what people are into, after all, but there are always stories that people want to read that we may not have thought of.
Btw, I think I speak for a substantial number of people when I say that we appreciate that you show up when we light the SZYmbol.
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I find it hilarious and enjoyable.
And not just the symbol, at the mere mention of a subject related to ZiPS or his name.
So alone...
Twitter
Pushing the NY/BOS coverage
is what the non-Insider content is for.
I do find the Insider content, and the Sweet Spot Network of course, to do more varied and in-depth stuff than the main body of the parent website. Plus there’s Schoenfield’s stuff that sometimes is outside the paywall I think, which gets into more of the stats minutiae.
I can’t say I have any suggestions for coverage, because if I had any good ideas for targeted analysis like you guys come up with, I’d be consuming less and writing more. I will keep it in mind, though.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
The thing is though
In chats, Keith chooses which questions to answer. If he was really dodging, he wouldn’t even post those questions to be answered.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Fair point.
Dunno if it really helps my view of him.
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Haha! The Neverwrong Paladin!
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think I pay $4 a year. Worth it.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
That’ll teach ESPN to pay people to write about prospects.
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To support good content?
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As opposed to the rest of their content.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
ESPN insider supports guys like Szymborski, Law, the fangraphs guys...
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Right. The Insider content is the only comment on their parent website worth a damn most of the time.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I think that's at least partially by design =P
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I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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Absolutely, Demolition Man as well.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Agreed.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Feb 8, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think this is a better point that people are giving him credit for
I mean, if a GM had one good trade 9 years ago, I wouldn’t still say he’s done well at trading.
I think it’s completely fair to say the Giants are pretty bad at international signings.
Now, whether it is semantically correct to say they “haven’t had success on the international front yet” is a different argument, but it’s not one that’s terribly relevant to the current state of our farm system, which is what the article is about.
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But who is good?
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I want to say the Yankees have been pretty good.
They buy whoever they want, but they’ve picked up some very good international guys. Cervelli, Banuelos, Montero, Rivera…
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Is it the Giants fault that Villalona hasn’t panned out? And what of the young international signings in our system right now—-many were signed years ago, but are still only teenagers. It’s really hard to know how any of them will pan out until several years have passed.
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It’s never entirely an organization’s fault when a guy doesn’t pan out.
But it’s never entirely not their fault either.
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Worst Giant Evar, over/under ab's 40-500
I like Damon Minor
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With apologies to any Rangers fans who may be here:
I was reading the story on Mitch Moreland and his wrist injury and had this thought:
How would a team or a fan react to getting to 3 straight World Series’ and losing each one?
The team is very capable of getting back to the Series this year and if they lost, has that ever happened before?
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Call someone in Buffalo
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They're certainly capable.
But I’m pretty sure the Yankees are built to handle them, since that’s what the yankees do. Build a team with a ton money designed to spite the team before last that embarrassed you.
I don't see a Yankee team that different from last year though.
Just a new shiny pitcher.
So alone...
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LOLD and expensive...
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OT: poop
They’re really starting to crack down on internet usage at work and appear to have blocked SBN. It’s been fun. I hope to still adopt a player, but I’ll probably get someone like Christian.
In happier news, my husband has a job interview tomorrow.
2012 is going to be awesome!
noooooooooooooooooooooooo
but then, yay!
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Mayor of Smug.
That sucks
phone?
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yeah, I can use my phone but you all know how difficult it is to post with that thing.
2012 is going to be awesome!
It's easier with the app
if Grant stop using fanshots.
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PHONE WHINING IS NOT ATTRACTIVE
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Is the site acting stupid for other people today? Or does it just hate me?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM PST reply actions
Everyone
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Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Not everyone hates him. Just the site, and the vast majority of people. But not everyone.
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His mom, for instance, surely knows someone who doesn’t hate him.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Make sure your version of Java is up to date. It’s one of the updates that SBN did this morning with the site.
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Well, when my mom told me, “I feel sorry for whoever you end up marrying,” I should have seen this day coming.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve been having problems for a few days now. Since the Super Bowl, really.
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One more thing that’s wrong with football.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm, maybe that was it.
But they’re still cracking down. I need to lay low for a while.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Just be nice to the IT DIrector.
most filters will bypass McC as a news site LOL
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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It's not the IT people who care.
It’s probably the new presiding judge.
2012 is going to be awesome!
I need it to access the 6th district's website
the CA Bar site, court reporter register, etc. It’s really useful for my actual job.
2012 is going to be awesome!
WTF ? Text left off and a double post.
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Does your IT department tell you to use IE? If so, you might be able to DL firefox and get to things depending on how things are set up.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
The klaw responds
keithlaw keithlaw
Signed nine years ago “@chriscarin36: @keithlaw In rankings, you mentioned Giants having no success in intl market yet. Forget about Pablo?”
Wow. Has it been that long?
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I did like this one though
keithlaw keithlaw
Ohio is not a foreign country. “@WarninTracPwr: @keithlaw what about jonathon sanchez?”
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
He’s obviously never been to Ohio.
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I have.
Coming from California it’s like a different country. Least the parts I was in.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Cinci seems almost more like Kentucky though, right?
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Some of the racial and social aspects are just doofy, especially for someone who works in a very socially diverse field. That and all the bricks. Bricks, bricks, bricks.
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Bricks are awesome.
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Mayor of Smug.
LOL UNREINFORCED MASONRY!
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Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
LOL LIVING ON SHAKY ASS DANGEROUS GROUND
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"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
LOL MADRID FAULT!
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I am going to be really pissed off if I end up dying in an earthquake AFTER I moved away from California.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Yeah, me too. At least let me die in a blizzard or tornado.
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Microburst or bust.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Microburst sounds like MTG card.
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Hell, it sounds like an NVIDIA card.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Dumb. As I said above, most international signings take many years before they bear fruit.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Also who exactly is an international signing success?
Mariano
Cano
Panda
Chapman (to be seen)
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Miguel Cabrera, Andres Galarraga, Vladimir Guerrero… There have been plenty.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Right
but for any given team? Yankees are probably tops. Grading needs to be on a curve here
Also, just realized Cano was not an international signing.
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Is that really how it's spelled?
Bear Fruit? Cause that sounds funny to me. Also makes me imagine funny things.
RAWR!
So alone...
Twitter
Baer fruit.
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The RDF is pleased.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
He cleverly uses when they signed him instead of when he broke into the big leagues to make it seem like he was just ignoring things that happened a log time ago.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Well, this sucks.
Ha! Tricked you. Bet you thought I was talking about Justin Christian. I wasn’t! I was referring to the new way FanPosts are hidden on the left toolbar. So this is my daily reminder, if you haven’t done so already, to head over to the Adoption Thread and let us know whether or not you’re keeping your adoptee or not! Even if you plan on keeping your player, it would do me, and especially Merope, a huge favor if you drop a line and let us know.
As for Christian, meh. He probably wasn’t going to be anything useful anyway.
Is this going to be permanent?
If so, why?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I've got my Charles Johnson avatar ready to go:
Just waiting for the RDF adoption services to finalize it.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
TOP 5 MLB rotations... Jayson Stark vs. BUSTER
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Giants #4 for Jayson... #4 for BUSTER...
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
phils number one?
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
for Jayson, Rays number 1 for Buster
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My guess for their Top 3
1. Philly
2. Tampa
3. Angels
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pretty much for both
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The three teams I wrote just in different order for each guy?
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basically Buster had the Phillis number one... Jayson had The Rays
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kingdoms of alamur looks awesome
so schilling can do something right
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
It looks like a pretty good game if we were in the year 2008.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
whaaaa?
Its an rpg with decent gameplay
the only problem is the character models look really primative
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Right. I can spend my time/money on that game, or a game of comparable quality that doesn’t look dated on launch day.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
eh. Im prolly not going to get it at launch
i mean me3 is coming up
but im getting tired of games like Skyrim that have an amazing world and class system but the combat itself kind of sucks
at least amalur is attempting to make combat cool
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Combat in adventure games is usually crappy because it’s hard to keep your opponent in front of you. That’s one thing I think Zelda games does well because they allow you to lock on to your opponent.
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Ocarina of Time is awesome.
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Wow, Romeo Void - "Never say Never" playing on megashuffle
I still have this LP from 1981
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I hear this a bunch on the classic alt station on XM radio
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Great song
Crappy album. Remember before the intarwebz how we sometimes bought an album based on one great track only to find that the rest of it was a steaming pile? That was one of those times.
Anagram of "SF Giants season" = GAS OF NASTINESS
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but now sometimes I click the wrong MP3 link and end up buying an album completely by accident, where all the songs are a steaming pile.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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I generally went with albums which had nudity in the jacket art. It’s a pretty good system.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
That probably wouldn't work well for Romeo Void
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Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
I used to buy a lot of records based on the jacket art. You get some duds, you get some good ones you’d never have bought.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
I used to see the singer when I worked at Safeway.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 8, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
nah
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Whoa
Like something out of that twilighty show about that zone, one hundred people will begin competing Wed. Feb 8 for the honor of top couch potato as The Simpsons 500 Ultimate Fan Marathon Challenge powers on in Hollywood.
In celebration of show’s 500th episode later this month, and in an effort to set a new Guinness World Record for longest continuous television watching, Twentieth Century Fox is moving the marketing team from Century City to the center of Hollywood & Highland to run a 500-episode marathon for super fans.
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/news/2012/02/08/4583/and-s-how-you-win-opium-war-simpsons-500-episode-m/
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You should probably never drive thorough Hollywood and Highland
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Probably, but I have, unfortunately, committed to certain ventures and programs that are in that area. Since I work in Westwood it’s not practical to Metro there and now that I’m an old man, I don’t want to park far away and walk to the site (especially after a long day and suicide-inspiring commute). But, yes, you’re right.
You work in Westwood? I live in Westwood. I’m a student (go figure).
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 8, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
If only that were in color you could have him waving in Hinske.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Heh. Sad, isn’t it?
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Because we’re ladies and that’s what we like. Duh.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
But wait
THERE ARE TEH WIMINZ ON TEH INTERNETZ????
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 8, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Only to look at pictures of hunky baseball players!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
But there ain't no internets in the kitchen!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
LOOK!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
It’s Lars’ junk! Looking a little foamy in the front, there.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Your pink flaps are wide open.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Looks like it’s only at half-mast.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
by KTJ on Feb 8, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
your junk is flapping in the wind
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Serious question
Good post, Grant; but I have one question. If Christian was your supposed fifth OF, who is our fourth OF? I can count Cabrera, Pagan, and Schierholtz. After that, I’m stumped.
Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this son of Cabrera.
Belt/Huff
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Beff or Hult
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Huff was a disaster last year, I don’t see why they even consider him for that position.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
my middle name is bluf
one f
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Is your last name Latos?
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
That was mean. I withdraw the question.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Is that a Carrot family name?
Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this son of Cabrera.
lol no. My parents are hippies
My name is Randal Adam Bluf Turley
my brother is Abram Tobias Grufious Maximus Turley
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crap!
You were raised by Frank Zappa!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Your brother’s name is hilariously awesome.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I can imagine. People are dumb like that.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 8, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
I wish
Turley oklahoma Turley’s
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Grufious Maximus?
GRUFIOUS?
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 8, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
like billy goat gruff
only more -ious
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
I figure Belt starts out in AAA. Yikes. Our defense will really suck in the OF.
Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this son of Cabrera.
This really makes no sense.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Which thing makes no sense?
Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this son of Cabrera.
Melky: average to above average LF
Pagan: average to above average CF
Nate: average to above average RF
Gregor Blanco, who will probably be in AAA if he doesn’t make the team, is a fine fourth outfielder.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Well, that would make sense. And if Christian is gone, that’s what I hope they do. But I sure don’t hear anything about it anywhere.
Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this son of Cabrera.
The backup plan is much worse, which is Melky in CF and whichever of Huff and Belt isn’t playing first base in left field.
But if there’s an injury to an outfielder, Blanco will probably be the first person to get the call. And if Belt doesn’t make the team, it’s probably Blanco who is getting his spot on the roster.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I consider Nate well above average as a fielder
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He rated negatively by UZR last year, which is oddly incongruous with his track record. So, I don’t know if that’s just noise or what.
And even if Nate is well above average, he’s not nearly good enough to make up for the double downgrade of Pagan to Melky and Melky to Huff/Belt/Pill.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
posey
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Brett Pill. Duh.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Belt and Gregor Blanco
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
breaking
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I don't get the Culberson love
But, I suppose — and this is really unlikely — I am just wrong about him.
@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
It hinges almost entirely on his 2010 AFL, I think.
Scouts smelled a ceiling to scoop on, and we’re not far enough removed from that performance for people to feel safe backing off.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
No idea what there is to love. Unless he’s a wizard with the glove, he has awful BB/K too.
Sundrendy!
he is not the wizard
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Can we have just one thread without talking about Fred Savage?
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
We can talk about Ben Savage though, right?
"I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey, on how to gun down stolen base attempts
/googles Ben Savage
I’ll allow it.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Good. Boy Meets World was amazing.
"I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey, on how to gun down stolen base attempts
I lurved Topanga.
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That might have been sarcastic. On the other hand, I’m pretty sure I’m right about Culberson.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Ka-ching!
Stanford University raised $6.2 billion, the most ever for any university, in a five-year campaign that concluded Dec. 31.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 1:48 PM PST reply actions
The Giants should hire their fundraising director to bolster the RDF.
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
All $6.2 billion will be spent building diamond thrones for members of the Stanford Board of Trustees.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Hoover gets a tower on campus and all I got were these stupid gemstones..
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
From the email I just got:
Thanks to the extraordinary generosity of 91,200 alumni like you, the campaign successfully concluded on December 31, having exceeded its goal of $4.3 billion by a significant margin.
Yeah, 50% more is quite significant, I’d say.
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Stealing from somebody else here
Hey Stanford: I’d gladly pay you Tuesday for a billion today.
"Only connect..."
E. M. Forster
When you get a grant don’t you think that you should
Use it for research or something else good?
But not at Stanford, just look what they bought
Their president a fine new yacht
And his re-sig-na-tion.
Oompa Loompa doopity-dah
If you’re not greedy, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the California Golden Bears do.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Haters gonna hate.
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This is good.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
A very well endowed school.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
what does its junk look like?
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...
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
That’s because the Golden Bear ripped it off.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
by calgiants86 on Feb 8, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
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Ed Helms went to Oberlin.
So, no.
Although it would explain the rainbow on the jersey!
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
And nicely trimmed hedges.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
lol
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
The Campanile looks like a pencil.
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Only built to reflect that we are better academically. It’s also taller.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Oh, I meant that you guys are lacking in girth.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Pffft.
Whatever.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Stanford’s a fine place, if you dig guild systems. Cal’s a fine place, if you prefer equity.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
What if I prefer cash to equity?
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Then Stanford is a fine place, just not as fine as Harvard.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Or Yale, or a couple other places.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Those schools are straight up evil though.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Quite. But they sure know how to maximize the brand value of their sheepskin.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Hyperbole or do you actually have a beef with them?
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Yeah, I know at least one person from each school.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Was in a conference call. One Harvard guy I know has a total superiority complex its incredibly annoying.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Yeah, he
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah, he'll mess you up.
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"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah, and I know dickbags from Stanford and Berkeley, too. Pretty much everyone I know who went there is really chill about it. Strangely, I’ve met way more snot-nosed kids who went to non-Ivy schools than Ivy schools.
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OT: Self-diagnosis
I’m showing all the symptoms of central heterochromia. and have done so for years.
"Only connect..."
E. M. Forster
Is it really a ‘symptom’ when all it indicates is low melanin? Mister Man has a bit of it. He’s also super pale.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
I thought it meant I had a little more melanin than some of my relatives
Although a quick scan of the the celebs “suffering” from ‘CH’ makes me think they tend to be on the pale side except
"Only connect..."
E. M. Forster
Could be worse
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
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Damn google, you sneaky bastard
I just went to mlbtraderumors a moment ago, and guess what pops up
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
We actually just had a rep from google in our office today talking to us about their ads
That right there is called “Remarketing”, in case you were wondering. If you view an item on some website but don’t buy it, they’ll show it to you a million times.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’ve noticed that and it bugs me.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The only defense is that
it works.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But, for the record
I believe you can go to google.com/ads/preferences and opt out.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Delete your cookies.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
sometimes i go online
and my screen is full of ads for shoes
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Probably me actually
I look at them more than she does. /ashamed
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I am still trying to convince her
that she should let me buy that pair of Christian Louboutin for her. No dice. “those cost way too much”
They probably do cost way too much but damn they look nice.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
bedroom shoes are like 40 bucks!
If I’m dropping a grand on a pair of shoes, she best be wearing them outside lol
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
A grand on a pair of shoes?!
Weren’t you complaining about barely being able to afford your mortgage?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
part of the reason why she won't let me buy them...
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
They are nice. Is she more of a handbag lady?
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no she doesn't spend period
I think 95% of her entire wardrobe came from me buying them for her. And all her handbags came from my acquisitions during various business trips.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Ahhhh, shes that type. That can be tough. What would she do if you surprised her with a pair?
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Beat him about the head and shoulders with one of them.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I did that was a burberry handbag
she returned it
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Do it on her birthday and rip up the receipt?
Tell her you won’t be upgrading to a new smartphone for 2 more years?
She upgraded her smartphone plan this year and gave the phone to me <.<
>.>
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Buy it at a duty free or someplace where she can’t return it.
Kind of related, I almost killed my wife when I she bought an LV suitcase.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
you have the reverse problem ;p
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
True. I don’t mind a handbag or shoes or something useful, but really a freaking suitcase that is going to get beaten up and or stolen wow.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Just go ahead and surprise her with the shoes. Worst case she returns them.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
eh I probably will spend that money on Sharks playoff tickets :x
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Would she be upset about getting jewelry? /curious?
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
GET HER A CLADDAGH!
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Pendant necklace from Tiffany's on this past mother's day
Returned 2 days later.
I never learn __
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Wow. It sounds impossible to get her to accept gifts
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not expensive gifts anyway
Make it this way. She’ll accept 4 pairs of 50 dollars shoes, but she’ll return the 200 dollars pair.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Does she get mad if you throw away the receipt? Or will she just not use/wear the item if you don’t let her return it?
I never throw away the receipt because if an item is defective I want the option of returning it still. haha.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Buy her a really nice night out. She will find it hard to return.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
They just come back. I’m not necessarily bugged by the ads themselves (most are ad blocked )but more from just knowing that they do that.
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If you have Gmail or Yahoo mail or any of the others, they actually scan through your emails for information. The information is used to tailor ads to you.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Ah shit that's why I keep getting male enhancement ads
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
We’ve been using retargeting ads for a few years now, the shit works.
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Feb 8, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
For whatever reason, almost every site that runs targeted ads puts up an ad from a company that laid me off. A company I also thought was utter hell working for and so hate with a blinding passion. But now every time I log into Yahoo or whatever, right there is a smiling person telling me how awesome that company is.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, me too!
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 8, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
It’s like they’ve personally set out to haunt us to our graves
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 8, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
PiKA's significant other
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ALL BECAUSE I CLICKED ON THAT ONE LINK THAT LAST THREAD
DAMN YOU CALGIANTS
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
This happens to me constantly. It works sometimes. I will occasionally click the link and go look around.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Raul Ibanez is still unsigned
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Hope Likehell.
We’ll be seeing a lot of him this year.
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by jhiat00 on Feb 8, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I trust the Giants evaluation of this player.
I mean, TGWTWS in 2010
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
FUK U DO ME!!!!!!
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Gregor Blanco.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Nope
But a spot will open up once Whiteside or Stewart is DFA’d before the season starts.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I think the group think is DO NOT WANT either
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I would rather have Hector, but he should be getting AB’s in Fresno. BTW LOL CAPELLO!
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Goodbye Mr Italian Pie.
I believe the odds are we will select a recently (as in today) acquitted tax evader as our next manager.
Sundrendy!
So who takes over for him, then?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I figured that part out. I meant who takes over for ’Arry.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Can’t really speak on that. He did manage to retain Bale and Modric though.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Stewart rated as having the best arm of any catcher in baseball last year, and is like 3 years younger than Whitey. Plus, there’s the SWEET DRAG BUNTZ to look forward to.
I like the guy for what he is.
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Stewart in the front seat
Whiteside in the back seat
by Hyoton on Feb 8, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
WHICH JOURNEYMAN DO I TAKE?
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by Solidarity on Feb 8, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Looking forward to the season season
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by speckops on Feb 8, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Posey and posey and YEA!
Posey and Posey and YEA!
Huff Huff Huff Huff
Lookin forward to the seasonnnn
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Dude has the range of a Mountain.
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A bit below average (though better recently) in CF, and cromulent in a corner. Gets on base at a reasonable clip, but isn’t a great back.
Pretty much the definition of a 5th OF, much as you’d like someone rangier in CF. Better him than Melky.
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His brother Sandor will Hound the league for years.
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They’re both Clegane mitts!
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by Fla-Giant on Feb 8, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Look to the White man for your next Torres
I don’t see this so much as a statement that the Giants don’t want Christian around any more, as i do of a statement that they place greater value on Gregor Blanco and Tyler Graham as candidates for the 4th/5th OF spot. Blanco is much more of a prototypical leadoff hitter – something the Giants sorely lacked last year and only have Jose Pagan to try and fill the role this year. I think that there’s a very good chance for Blanco to make the 25 man roster out of ST if he hits well. You have to figure that Stewart or Whiteside (whoever loses the backiup catcher battle) will be waived off of the 40 man before the season startrs. That opens a spot on the 40 man for Blanco. Tehn, I can’t see the Giants keeping oall 3 of Fontenot, Theriot and Burriss on teh 25 man when the season starts. That Gaints are likely to try to sneak one of those 3 through wiaver and down to Fresno at the end of ST. If either Pill or Belt don’t make the 25 man roster, or somebdy ends up on the DL, out of ST then that opens up a spot for Blanco on the OD roster.
As Grant noted in passing, the odds are really high that Christian clears waivers. If so, then the can’t refuse an assignment to Fresno and he remains a candidate to be the next Andres Torres for the Giants.
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I loved that episode.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
I still think that Burriss goes to Fresno, and that he has almost no chance of getting picked up on waivers.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
only we are dumb enough to offer that guy a 25 man spot
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I agree, but I also think that Fontenot is in danger of be DFA’d to Fresno if Franchez is healthy and Theriot plays well in ST. Do they really need 2 UT infiiders if Crawdaddy and Franchez break camp with the team? The fact that Theriot is RH and can play SS, 3B and 2B makes him a more likely UT candidate than Fontenot.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Fontenot doesn’t have much of an arm, but (and I know we disagree on this) he is more surehanded than Theriot in my view. Plus, they aren’t quite so redundant because 1) They are lefty/righty, and 2) I like Fontenot’s chances of outplaying Burriss in ST, who is far and away the clankiest of the three.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I meant that Fontenot (or Theriot) stands a good chance of not making the OD 25 man even after Burriss is DFA’d. Fontenot’s LH bat really hurts him with Crawdaddy being anointed the starter. Theriot is a much more likely bakckup/platoon partner for Crawdaddy than Fontenot. Of course, as I stated in my OP, this all depends on Franchez being solidly healthy coming out of ST.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I think, given the injury problems of last year and the continued concern about Freddy, that the Giants will want to carry four MIs, just for flexibility’s sake.
Obviously Crawford hurts Fontenot’s chances, but with only 3 MI/utility guys, you have very little flexibility. That problem expands to 3rd, too, as you don’t have Tejada to play behind Sandoval this year. Carrying 4 means that on any given day, you are 3 deep at 2B, SS, and 3B.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
The vast majority of teams only carry 1 UT IF, so 2 UT middle infielders is a big stretch. When you add in the fact that the Giants are likely to carry 2 backup 1B on the roster (Belt and Pill), there just isn’t any room for 2 UT IF who are as similar as Theriot and Fontenot.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Yeah, but they’re also our 3B contingency as well. If Pablo gets a day off, you have to put him in the game if Crawford or Freddy goes down. They’d be stretched really thin, because Pill would be occupying the spot previously held by Tejada, Rohlinger, Gillaspie, Uribe, etc.
Two players to cover insurance at three positions. Because of Belt/Huff, I’d sooner expect them to be heavy on the infield than in the outfield where there’s a perceived logjam already.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I think what you’ll see is Pill will be the emergency 2B. Theriot will be the UT IF and Fontenot will clear waivers and be sent to Fresno. If there was a high demand for Fontenot’s services across the league then his agent wouldn’t have let him sing such low money contracts the last 2 years – before they even had a chance to exchange arb numbers.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
After the whole “Fontenot vs. Keppinger” thing that was on the record and dumping Keppinger (who a lot of fans liked for whatever reason) in favor of Fontenot, I have a hard time seeing them “dump” Fontenot in turn in favor of Ryan Theriot. It just screams lateral and nonsensical.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
The difference being that Kepp could not play SS to save his life, while Theriot can play every postion on the IF with at least average D. Not to mention that Fontenot can be stashed in Fresno in case of an emergency with Crawdaddy or Franchez. He has to clear waivers, but he can’t refuse an assignment to Fresno unless he’s willing to retire. If the Giants were so set on keeping Fontenot then there’s no reason to sign Theriot to a major league contract. They’re the same guy except one hits LH and the other hits RH.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Theriot’s contract is also non-guaranteed.
And the defensive metrics reeeeeally don’t agree with you on his defense at SS.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
1. Fontenot’s contract is also non-guaranteed. If the Giants release him before May they only have to pay a small fraction of his contract.
2. Defensive metrics are imperfect and highly volatile – especially over anything less than a 3 or 4 year moving average. I know what my eyes see, and Theriot is a better defensive SS than Fontenot based on what I saw from both of them in 2011. Let’s also not forget that they played on the same team in Chicago for 3.5 seasons (2007-2010) and Theriot got 99% of the starts at SS when they were both on the field at the same time. Not to mention that they played on the same college team and Theriot was the starting SS on the team. It’s clear that Theriot has always been considered the better defensive SS of the 2.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Did you see the vivoelbirdos “highlight” reel of Theriot’s defensive prowess? Our counterparts over there were not impressed with his defensive performance this season.
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I’m not saying that I’ve ever been impressed with his D at SS in the 4 or 5 years that I’ve watched him. I’m just saying that he’s better than Fontenot. Do you really think that he would start at SS for all of those years in Chicago and LSU ahead of Fontenot if Fontie played better D there than Theriot?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Oh, and you can make a highlight reel of any player at any positon in any year that makes him look like a below-average defender. Defenders go through slumps just like hitters do – just not as often.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Oh, I’m aware that pretty much anyone will look goofy if you take only clips of them screwing things up. The point was that they collectively watched him all season and came to the conclusion that his defense is lacking (at this point).
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I think that professional baseball is prone to maintaining the status quo.
It’s how you get Miguel Tejada playing shortstop in 2011, or Freddy Sanchez batting second when he should probably be batting 7th or 8th. While I think there is some value in inferring organizational opinion from situations such as this, I would keep a healthy dose of skepticism along with it. Even if he was a better defender then, he isn’t necessarily a better defender now. Especially if he’s got more miles logged and is at an age where injuries can become a limiting factor.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
No need. He is self-besmirching.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
BITE YOUR TONGUE
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
Check out my recently completed fanpost for more info, interviews and vid clips on Blanco’s season in the Venzuelan Winter League, along with Hector Sanchez highlights:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2012/2/8/2785143/hector-gregors-excellent-adventure-in-the-vwl
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
OT - LOL Marlins
Emilio Bonifacio beat the Marlins in their arbitration hearing, tweets Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald. The Wasserman Media Group client will be paid $2.2MM in 2012 instead of the Marlins’ $1.95MM figure. Like the Rays, Nationals, White Sox, Blue Jays, Braves, and Astros (prior to Jeff Luhnow), the Marlins have a policy of going to hearings once the arbitration figure exchange deadline is reached. This year they also lost a hearing to Anibal Sanchez. The Marlins lost to Cody Ross in 2010, Dan Uggla in 2009, and Miguel Cabrera in 2007. The team beat Kevin Gregg in ’07. Keep in mind, though, that if the Marlins had settled at the midpoint in all six cases, they only would have saved $1,562,500 in total. They might have gained more than that amount if their “file and trial” policy compelled other players to settle at team-friendly amounts out of fear for going to a hearing.
Is there any team with a worse arbitration record than the Marlins? And, as the story points out, what’s the use in draggging so many players into court for such a small savings in salrary?
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Because Jeff Loria
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Rush Limbaugh attacking Clint Eastwood Superbowl halftime commercial
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72578.html
Eastwood has said he’s a libertarian, as I recall.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
Eastwood is a long-time registered Republican.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
So is Ron Paul.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
But Eastwood has never run for an elective office on the Libertarian ticket.
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Wikipedia:
He considers himself too individualistic to be either right-wing or left-wing, describing himself as a “political nothing” and a “moderate” in 1974 and a “libertarian” in 1997.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
But he has been a registered Republican in the past. He’s never been a registerd Libertarian or Democrat.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Sure, but his views are very nuanced. Pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and anti-war going back to Korea.
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Since we're all champagne room
Republicans just can’t get behind Mitt.
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Getting behind Santorum
Now that’s an image I want out of my head.
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Yeah
I tried not to go there.
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whirlwind of santorum
getting me wet
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by Murray, Present on Feb 8, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I do recall reading an article a few months back that said establishment Republicans are betting that Conservative voters who don’t really like Romney will vote for him to defeat Obama.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
There is that
but you will have a complete lack of interest and thus no turn out.
Turnout is significantly lower so far than 2008.
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The whole enthusiasm issue is more a primary election issue. He’s more concerned about independents who’ll be key to deciding the general election.
The swing states will decide the next president. A recent poll I saw showed it’s a close race between Obama and Romney in those states.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
My prediction is that Obama rolls over Romney pretty easily.
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I think it will be close
I mean, 47% of the people voted for McCain in 2008.
I would love to see the Republicans nominate Santorum or Gingrich.
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yeah
but Obama is not even campaigning yet.
Independents are souring on Romney because of his taxes and Bain Capital thing.
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And generally speaking
Obama (and Axelrod) tend to run effective campaigns.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
the
Super PACs thing will make things interesting. One of the things that Obama did so well in 2008 was contesting almost every state because he had the resources.
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I read that in 1992, Bill Clinton was trailing both Bush and Perot at the end of the Democratic primary. The primary tends to hurt a candidates poll numbers.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Perot is the reason why Clinton won
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While many disaffected conservatives may have voted for Ross Perot to protest Bush’s tax increase, further examination of the Perot vote in the Election Night exit polls not only showed that Perot siphoned votes nearly equally among Bush and Clinton, but of the voters who cited Bush’s broken “No New Taxes” pledge as “very important,” two thirds voted for Bill Clinton.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
It's an interesting debate
I have seen both sides of the discussion.
My statement was probably too absolute. The economy tanking certainly hurt Bush.
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The early 90’s recession was relatively weak compared to the early 80’s and now.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
It's the economy, stupid
this is shaping up just like when Clinton beat Bush
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
I was thinking more like
when Bush beat Kerry
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Mixed success incumbent vs. the safe, bland, corporate guy from Massachussetts out of a ridiculous grab bag of primary contenders?
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I can’t even remember what Bush’s platform was. Kerry was just not a good candidate.
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Swiftboats and don’t change during teh war.
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Tell that to GHWB and Carter. The similarities between the Carter years and Obama’s first 4 years are eerily similar. Horrible economic numbers, sky-high energy prices, hostile regime cahnge in the Middle East, problems with Iran. Don’t forget that everybody called Reagan a far-right extremist and nobody gave him a chance to beat Carter until about September of 1980. Even as late as the week before the Movember election no poll was predicting anything close to the landslide that Reagan ended up winning by.
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Yeah but I thought that nobody liked Carter.
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Romney is no Reagan.
And Reagan wouldn’t have been president if not for the Iranian Hostage Crisis.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Carter didn’t get Bin Laden.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Except
unemployment was on it’s way back up by the time Carter was seeking re-election and of course the hostage crisis hurt Carter.
I would actually compare the first four years of Obama with the first four years of Reagan.
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There’s absolutely no comparison. Reagan’s economy was creating excess jobs galore by this point in his first term.
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The is true. I think it was 1983 when things really started to turn around.
Obama’s economy is in a state of stagnation. There is no reasonable hope that things will turn around quickly like it did during Reagan’s first term. It’s actually more likely that things will get drastically worse.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
If you are saying ‘(any President’s) economy’ you are doing it wrong. They commonly get too much blame and too much credit for things that are totally outside their control. It’s the RBI of political discourse.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’m totally aware of this.
I think Obama will do a good job of convincing American’s that he inherited a bad economy from Bush. But Romney will still attack him for not improving things. Romney will do the Reagan, “Are you better off now than you were four years ago?” bit. Then he’ll make the case that he can do a better job.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
He really shouldn’t ask that question. I think most people would say that they were a lot better now than they were four years ago.
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I didn’t mean literally, just that Romney will say that things under Obama haven’t improved. I believe the recession peaked in mid 2009 right after Obama entered office.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, he has to move off that talking point because the economy/unemployment appears to be better.
He is now going with the “I could have done a better job” attack.
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The Hill 01/31/12
The Congressional Budget Office on Tuesday predicted the deficit will rise to $1.08 trillion in 2012.
The office also projected the jobless rate would rise to 8.9 percent by the end of 2012, and to 9.2 percent in 2013.
…
The higher unemployment numbers are due to lower economic growth than previously estimated. Gross domestic product for 2011 is now estimated to have grown 1.6 percent in 2011, down from the 2.3 percent forecast in August. CBO a year ago had predicted 3.1 percent growth for 2011.
The outlook for 2012 has also worsened. GDP is forecast to grow only 2 percent this year, compared to a previous estimate of 2.7 percent.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
The economy is not in stagnation.
22 months of increased jobs and GDP growth since 2010.
Reagan also pulled a lot more levers than Obama including two significant tax hikes.
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I guess you didn’t look at the graph I posted.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
there is always a lagging effect for employment
especially during a recovery
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/real-jobless-rate-114-realistic-labor-force-participation-rate
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If the economy started to improve, the people who left the work force will re-enter it and the unemployment rate will start to go up.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
I get it
my point is that there is always a lag factor. It’s not anything new with this issue.
Unemployment is not just about numbers…it’s more of a general feel. People don’t go to the ballot remembering the unemployment figures, just if they are working or not.
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Above.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
sky-high energy prices
I would describe energy prices at elevated levels, but not sky high like in 2008.
Nothing like the Iranian Hostage Crisis is happening with Obama.
Obama can rightfully blame the economic problems on his predecessor. Though Romney will attack him for failing to improve the economy.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve read a recent national poll that says Romney has an edge over Obama on the economy issue. If the economy stalls or gets worse latter this year, Romney should win. That’s what Obama’s own people are saying.
Romney is a weak candidate and could have personal things about him exploited.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
The most recent poll
shows that Obama is ahead of Romney but behind on the “handling the economy” front. Bad for Romney is that people don’t trust him to look out for them. He is far behind on the “will do the right thing for taxes” and “understands me” issue.
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Yeah, I would assume Obama is going to attack Romney’s wealth, taxes and business history.
Obama has already run for president and has been vetted, so everyone knows about him.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
That was an ABC/Washington Post poll where they refused to publish the internals like party affiliation and likely vs. registered voters. I’m not saying that Romney is a good candidate, just that that poll was highly suspect.
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Barring a big, sustained downturn in the economy I just don’t see how Obama loses to Romney.
The first six innings are overrated.
The Politico article I read said Obama’s people say the unemployment rate can’t be higher than 8.5 percent.
Those numbers are fudged though. A lot of people are angry about the weak employment situation.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
When did they change the employment numbers? Didn’t they used to include under employment and those who have given up?
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U-6
But no, they haven’t changed the number. Career BLS statisticians do not fudge numbers.
Besides, what turns elections is actual unemployment, not the official numbers.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Huh I thought the way the calculated it got changed somewhere along the line.
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Not really, no. The surveying that underlies the measure gets updated now and then, though.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Well I think the latest numbers put it at 8.3%, and the trend has been positive for like two years now with 9 more months until the election.
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as long as by 'positive' you mean 'employment stopped collapsing'
If we were on a rebound, Obama would be a prohibitive favorite for reelection, instead of a coin flip.
by wcw on Feb 8, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
I guess this is the bottom of the well, huh
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we are on a rebound
just a slow one especially because of Europe.
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Fun with graphs
We consider the difference between the official series and our alternative to be the "seasonal bias." And, while the two series have the same trend, the impact on month-to-month UR changes can be material. For instance, the difference between the upward bias (where the reported UR is higher than underlying) in November 2010 and the downward bias in January 2011 explains 0.5pp of the 0.7pp UR decline over that period (Figure 2, bottom).
As we move further beyond the financial crisis, the bias diminishes. Nevertheless, we continue to expect a downward bias in first quarter. In fact, we estimate that the UR will fall further to 8.3% in the January employment report. Come April, however, the seasonal bias should reverse and the UR may as well. We forecast the UR at the end of this year to be only slightly lower than it is currently.
(all from a Nomura piece)
Sundrendy!
more fun with graphs
It’s worth noting that the initial estimates for jobs added each month has been consistently lower than the more accurate but less publicized final revisions that get made later on when more information is available:
The first six innings are overrated.
The real unemployment rate
Not including the underemployed.
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03.02.2012
Once again, the civilian labor force participation rate has declined, from 64 percent to 63.7 percent in a single month. Since January 2009, it has declined from 65.7 percent, resulting in approximately 4.7 million people no longer being counted towards the unemployment rate. If they were included, the real rate of unemployed working age adults would be 11.01 percent, and the underemployed would be 17.6 percent.
Overall, that includes the 12.7 million people that BLS says are actually unemployed, and then 4.7 million who have given up looking for work, plus another 10.5 million who can’t find full-time work. All together, there’s 28 million working age adults who simply cannot find work in the Obama economy.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it’s hard to read the print.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
the economy has been slowly warming up
so, by election time, it’ll probably be an asset to Obama
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I have a question
Why did South Carolina vote for Newt?
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because
1) he is from Georgia
and more importantly
2) he is not Mitt Romney
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+1
Georgian and he had 2 great clips from the SC debates that were played over and over and generated a ton of word-of-mouth.
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He had good debate performances, the state has a lot of Evangelicals, and he spent a lot of money on ads.
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I <3 you.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I find it amusing that it can be such a faux pas to discuss politics in the US. Possibly because there are only two real political parties, and this leads to issues being more polarizing.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Possibly because there are only two real political parties
Interesting concept, but it seems to me like there’s really only one with different factions.
I never liked Christian
I blame him for being not-Torres.
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Reddit has revolutionized wasting time at work
www.msworddit.com
www.msoutlookit.com
The first six innings are overrated.
Those are cool. Spitting images.
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Ok Grant has officially lost it to Offseason Madness
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I imagine him being stuck in that room
like Martin Sheen from Apocalypse.
Except instead of push ups, he’s tweeting nonsense.
and wake up dressed
in a multicolored shirt with a fish logo on it.
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SB Nation has had some problems recently with the site
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and apparently are looking to fix it.
ddos attacks I take it.
http://www.sbnation.com/jobs/ops_engineer
sorry if already posted, I just got here.
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22G
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
DDOS attacks on sbnation
Click to view slide 1 of 250,000,000
something to do
scriptkiddies like to do that kind of crap.
back in the olde days IRC would get blasted off the face of the earth.
Why do people climb everest?
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About working at Vox Media: This is a permanent, full-time position with benefits based in Washington, DC (though we’ll consider outstanding remote candidates). We work in a converted townhouse in Dupont Circle, a historic neighborhood full of interesting architecture and great coffee shops and restaurants.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Sounds kinda cool. I’d be down to move to DC too. I like my job here though.
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I wonder what sites SBN employees go to to goof off when at work.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
by bgunn on Feb 8, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You can’t really stop a DDoS attack though…. If someone wants to fuck your website with a botnet of some sort they WILL fuck your website.
by fishmicmuffin on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
but you can make things more secure to avoid network vulnerabilities. Or be better at spotting them, earlier.
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Fair enough.
DDoS is mostly an annoyance. And I have no idea who would want to target SBN of all places.
by fishmicmuffin on Feb 8, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
well they’ve been successful a few times so I’d guess it’s a case of “lookit what I can do. I’m gunna take this whole thing down!”
I mean SBN is actively seeking to hire someone who can deal with such things so it’s a problem…
We’d notice it on IRC at certain times of the year especially during school breaks.
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I was excited when the network first came out. They showed old school playoff and all star games all of the time. Now it seems like 20 hours of talky talky and 4 hours of lists.
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I complained about this a few days ago, I want to see more classic games on the MLB Network. I’ve seen the Top Ten Shortstops Right Now one too many times.
I'm almost embarassed to admit how long i laughed
out loud at:
Ryan Theriot, Mike Fontenot, and Manny Burriss on the same roster seems like an exercise in redundancy seems like an exercise in redundancy.
It was a long time.
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Come see who has been released back into the wild.
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Top mentioned NFL players on ESPN
You can guess who’s number one.
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Err, menttioned on Sportscenter.
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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 8, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Ummmmmmmmmmm......
Warren Wells?
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They did a special conversation with him Tuesday morning.
As in 2 days after the football season ended.
So alone...
Twitter
Wow.. just sad LOL
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LOL
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We want something light, hopefully funny. We’re looking some light hearted distraction that isn’t stupid. No violence, no murder, rape, or sick/dying/injured people.
Any ideas?
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Perhaps a Pixar movie?
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our idiot brother was funny
in a heart warming way
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Except it wasn’t really funny and should have been a straight up drama.
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Have you seen:
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Exit-Through-the-Gift-Shop/70132200?trkid=496751
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Good one.
LOL THAT FRENCH DUDE
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Mr. Brainwash
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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 8, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Haha yeah.
What a terrible name.
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Have you seen Paul F. Tompkins' character based on that guy?
I didn’t even realize it was a real guy. The premise is that he’s an artist whose blood has turned into glue from all the paint and glue he uses in his art. So he moves extremely slowly.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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Girl with a Dragon Tattoo…oh wait.
I’m assuming on netflix?
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I think that has just about everything listed.
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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 8, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
/thatsthejoke.gif
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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I don’t think it matters.
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I’ve recently enjoyed Downton Abbey (season 1).
The humor is subtle. Performances are great. There are bad people and story lines. But the tone is generally uplifting and hopeful.
downton abbey is amazing
if youre looking for a series instead of a movie give it a looksie
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
You have certainly seen it but
We want something light, hopefully funny. We’re looking some light hearted distraction that isn’t stupid. No violence, no murder, rape, or sick/dying/injured people.
No ways light hearted
The absolutely classic “The Apartment”
Also mentions Cincinnati
"Only connect..."
E. M. Forster
And Shirley McLaine is hot as hell in that. I thnk I spelled her name wrong…
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 8, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
I have no idea who any of those people are!
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Adrien Brody is an interesting actor. I’ve mostly seen him in kind of silly/shallow roles, but then he did The Pianist with Roman Polanski.
Rachel Weisz was in The Mummy and The Constant Gardener. She was married to hotshot director Darren Aronofosky for a while and is now married to Daniel Craig. She is verra verra attractive.
I think you are overlooking Adrien Brody’s magnum opus.
Yes, that’s right, I’m talking about Predators.
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And always doing commercials.
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also
Mumford. I liked that movie.
Up in the Air, if you haven’t already seen it.
which isn’t light
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 8, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
up in the air
It’s got plenty of social criticism, melancholia, and even an off-screen suicide. But I think the delivery mechanism for this all is light and fun.
OT: Looking for a movie
We want something light
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 8, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty much anything by Christopher Guest may be a good bet.
For some reason Grosse Point Blank is coming to mind. There’s definitely murder in it but it’s the funny kind.
Others that randomly jump to mind:
Happy-Go-Lucky
Italian for Beginners
And, oddly because I don’t think I’ve ever thought of this movie unless it randomly pops up on TV, Down With Love.
by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 8, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Or anything by Wes Anderson, if you’re in the mood for light but with highly stylized quirkiness. The Royal Tenenbaums is my favorite.
Good call.
I know I’m in the minority by my favorite is probably The Life Aquatic.
But if you want to get really light, but still a lot of fun, you could go with The Fantastic Mr. Fox.
by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 8, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Life Aquatic is so great! Bill Murray has some of the best lines in that film, I get the giggles as he and Owen Wilson walk thru the entire ship in that one continual shot and then he snaps at the crew, “Go to bed, you sons of bitches!” IDK why :)
I even liked Darjeeling but I may be the only one in this line…
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
Midnight in Paris
Problem solved (unless you’ve seen it)
It matches all your criteria and is pretty much absolutely wonderful.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 8, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
I enjoyed it.
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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 8, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
I still have the oompa loompa song in my head.
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Okay going to
an appearance in SF and then Hayward tomorrow.
Trying to think if I should rent a car in SFO or go into SFO, take BART to the SF appearance, take BART to Hayward and taxi.
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District Court
I have the one judge that does not believe in telephonic appearances.
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Do the Bart Man!
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I think I’m going with the rental car.
Traffic going back toward SFO shouldn’t be too bad at 4 o’clock right.
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Maybe this is relevant to your interests?
Meh
Firm is paying for it.
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Nope. Parking the the court will be toughest issue if you do car (and traffic from SFO to court depending on time—I’m guessing 9-ish)
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Thanks
that’s pretty much a staple for me being in southern california.
Google map’s traffic is actually more accurate.
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Oh you like Google traffic map better?
I love sigalert for accidents. You get the entire transcript.
“minivan vs sedan” !
“vehicle fire” !
It satisfies the rubbernecking without the rubbernecking.
Sigalert definitely has more details on accidents but its speed map is laggy.
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I've defended him in the past against charges of bias against the Giants
But I’m increasingly convinced that Rob Neyer is kind of an asshole.
Like, this post: http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/2/8/2784513/jeremy-affeldt-master-of-irony
I mean, sure, there are a lot of people who are suffering in America today. But there’s no reason to single out a Jeremy Affeldt tweet about the price of groceries to attack him as an out-of-touch millionaire. Is there a point to that post other than to try to make Affeldt seem like a dick and Neyer seem like the guy who cares for the everyman?
Affeldt responded on twitter:
JeremyAffeldt Jeremy Affeldt
rob neyer baseball nation, someone sent me the tidbit u did on me. I actually started an organization @GenerationAlive better material 4 ya
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I don’t think that’s a particularly fair post. Your income shouldn’t preclude you from commenting on everyday things.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
One of the nicest people I've ever worked with.
Just can’t resist trolling the right, is all.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Most people who are dicks on the internet are nice in person
But they’re still dicks on the internet, which is a weird thing to be.
But you’re right about him having an innate desire to troll those of us right of center. It’s why I stopped following him on twitter. I kinda hope that his stuff on baseball nation would be better.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I do
But he’s not quite as mean spirited as Neyer gets, at least in my opinion.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
There are a lot of dicks on the internet
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Internet dicks are still not as bad as dick friends who sign you up for Time-Life as a gift.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
And maybe the trolling the right thing is what got to me in particular
Insofar as it’s my suspicion that Neyer took at least some sort of pleasure in mocking Affeldt knowing that Affeldt is a fairly conservative dude.
Anyway, I hope Neyer does an in-depth analysis of all the stuff that Logan Morrison posts about on twitter that poor people can’t afford.
Oh, LoMo went to the club? 40 million people are on food stamps, LoMo! Oh, LoMo hung out with Brandon McCarthy? Poor people can’t hang out with Brandon McCarthy!
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Not to defend the post ...
Insofar as it’s my suspicion that Neyer took at least some sort of pleasure in mocking Affeldt knowing that Affeldt is a fairly conservative dude.
But that wasn’t his intent. He didn’t know Affeldt’s politics.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
If you know that to be the case, fair enough
But anyone who follows Affeldt’s twitter probably has at least a general idea.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I know Affeldt is outspokenly Christian. But I can’t say I really know from his twitter whether or not that informs his politics.
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CHRISTIANS CAN"T BE LIBERAL!
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Well yeah
But you can make an educated guess, demographically.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Born in Phoenix, went to HS and lives in Spokane.
I’d give him even odds.
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I assumed he was conservative from some of the things he posts on Twitter, and some of the people he quotes.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
and the fact that he’s a professional baseball player
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
There is that.
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I feel like the a liberal baseball player is as common as a unicorn.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Pujols was once a unicorn.
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Lol that photoshop.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
I was being pretty snarky. I know they are out there.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
yup
“Lefty” CJ Wilson denied reports that he voted for Obama. It’s a different world. Although maybe not THAT different, if Affeldt is boggled by Whole Foods prices.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 4:30 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I thought he was born in Medical Lake, WA
which is just outside Spokane. I live 60 miles south of there and I’m about as liberal as there is.
by mrs. owlcroft on Feb 8, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but he seems like one of those weirdo Christians that is actually concerned with helping the poor and less fortunate.
The first six innings are overrated.
Yeah, but did you know he once pointed out that Whole Foods is more expensive than other stores?
Fuck ’im.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
also
There are way better reasons to call out Logan Morrison, like being a general popped-collar douche.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
lulz
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I’m super liberal, but I still thought that post was unnecessary, mean-spirited and in poor taste.
Also, is what you’re saying that if some wealthy baseball player who was liberal (assuming such a person actually exists) said that same thing, he wouldn’t have said anything? That seems weird, as the target seemed to be the wealth, not the political persuasion.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I guess I should have read all the comments. I’m confused now — what did your comment about trolling people on the right have to do with the Affeldt thing if Neyer doesn’t know Affeldt’s politics?
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
The majority of the people who’d be annoyed with the post would be on the right. It’s a class warfare-ish kind of post.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
The majority of the people who’d be annoyed with the post would beon theright.
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Yeah. Not my kind of post.
But the ones who would really take umbrage as opposed to dismissing it … ah, hell, it makes sense in my head.
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 8, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
I can see where he’s coming from, and hell, I might’ve thought the same thing too. But actually making a post about it on a place where he’s the editor-in-chief is probably crossing a line.
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I had to unfollow the idiot
His take on anything not baseball is juvenile at best.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think his take on baseball is particularly refined either.
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He's one of the most influential baseball/sabemetric writers ever
But sure.
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I get that.
And frankly, I have no idea why. Probably because I came relatively recently to baseball on the interwebs, I undervalue his importance in the early 2000s in getting stuff out there. A lot of his stuff on ESPN basically distilled to him not taking a position on just about anything. It seemed like he was just an aggregator, reposting links without actually offering any insight or content of his own.
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Are you sure you weren’t just reading Buster Olney by mistake?
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by Ott on Feb 8, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Because his name was next to Bill James’ a few times.
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Hooray for diminishing an accomplished person with snark!
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This would be a good response to Neyer
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Any non-baseball criticism of him is completely fair
Criticizing his baseball work is asinine
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What Neyer has accomplished as a Sabermetrician other than being high profile, I couldn’t tell you.
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I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIS WORK SO THERE MUST NOT BE ANYTHING
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Yes, that is exactly what Solidarity has said.
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Care to share with us what his work is instead of just appealing to authority like you called me out on two days ago? Something influential, maybe, to substantiate these claims?
I am pretty familiar with his work at ESPN, and his work at Baseball Nation that nobody comments on, but I have never seen a piece by Neyer or a work largely credited to Neyer regarding Sabermetrics that has been circulated, referenced, or cited.
I respect the guy for supporting Sabermetrics, but if we want to talk influential in terms of actually adding to the tapestry of research and analysis, I’d say Tango and James are 1A and 1B. If Neyer is #2, I’ve never seen anything to indicate that he is anything more than a distant 2.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I don’t doubt for a second that he’s brought a lot of people into the fold by virtue of his role at ESPN. But… I really haven’t seen much SABR writing from him that doesn’t have “& Bill James” on the jacket.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
According to Wikipedia
He found the McCracken article, posted it on his ESPN column, posted some of his own analysis and said the article would “blow your mind.”
Then in a follow-up article after he had received letters from Craig Wright and Bill James, and seemed to take a slightly different tack upon reposting Wright’s (and part of James’) letter in full.
That sounds like a bit of biased summary, so I will let you decide for yourself here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voros_McCracken#DIPS_published
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Is that taken from the SABR site?
That sounds a lot like what they discussed in the history of DIPS. The article itself (archived on ESPN; Jan 24), discussing McCracken’s then-novel work, is pretty interesting even now.
Note that I don’t actually like a lot of his stuff he writes.
He linked to wikipedia!
How can you argue with that
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LOL
He took his work with James and brought it to ESPN when people were writing about RIBEYES and INTANGIBLES. He wrote on ESPN.com for like 15 years. If his work wasn’t popular or interesting I don’t think he would’ve kept his job there. Many people were introduced to sabermetric concepts through his ESPN column. If you don’t get how important that is, I don’t know what to tell you
The difference between what I’m saying and your absurd “copyright mavens” reference is that I’m giving you actual people talking about how they aren’t where they are without Neyer. Do you lik FanGraphs? Cameron gives tons of credit to Neyer.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/thanks-rob/
I would cite all his books, but you apparently won’t give him any credit for books he co-wrote with James. If he wasn’t talented and didn’t bring something to the research do you think Bill James would’ve written all those books with him?
Is your criticism that he didn’t create any equations himself? Ok, sure.
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I think what speckops and I are both saying that we haven’t found his analysis to be particularly groundbreaking, compelling, or influential on the field itself. If you want to argue that he brought people into the fold (something I’ve already conceded) and was the field’s Carnegie, that’s something I can get behind, but that doesn’t really make a statement about the actual quality or analytical value of his work, which is where it appears speckops and I both take issue.
I appreciate that he’s helped SB Nation, and promoted Sabermetrics on ESPN, and help people get published, but that would all fall in line with my point that he has been “high profile.” I’ve found what analysis of his that I have encountered not to be to my liking. Which was kind of the crux of my argument.
Since you appear to be incapable of debating with me without propelloring everywhere, I’m just going to end the debate right here. You never address my points anyway.
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I get it
I’ve found what analysis of his that I have encountered not to be to my liking. Which was kind of the crux of my argument.
You don’t like him so you snarkily diminish his work. You don’t give him credit because he didn’t invent xFIP or anything like that. Got it.
If writing about sabermetrics in an interesting way at a time when nobody even knew what sabermetrics was isn’t “groundbreaking” I don’t know what is.
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You don’t like him so you snarkily diminish his work. You don’t give him credit because he didn’t invent xFIP or anything like that. Got it.
Anyone else notice the irony here?
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Oh is the part of the discussion
Where you attack me personally?
The “bros” and “grats” can’t be far away
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You’re doing a perfectly fine job of attacking yourself while trying to denigrate me, so I’m going to sit this one out.
Chill the fuck out.
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Everybody just
Neyer ain’t worth it, baby.
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You should take your own advice
I’m just going to end the debate right here
I’m going to sit this one ouf
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Geez, I was on your side yesterday, but now I’m on his. He’s saying he doesn’t particularly like Rob Neyer as an analyst and he’s not really being snarky about it. He has the right to not be a Neyer fan.
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This was the snark I was referring to
Because his name was next to Bill James’ a few times.
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Snarky as it may be, he’s saying he hasn’t seen much analysis from Neyer that he liked that didn’t seem to be a joint effort with Bill James. I don’t see what’s wrong with that. It’s subjective.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Seriously. I don’t particularly think Vin Scully is a great announcer at this point either.
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You should probably learn more about him
This sums it up pretty well..
While Bill James is rightfully credited for revolutionizing baseball analysis, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that the revolution doesn’t happen — or at least doesn’t happen as quickly and as thoroughly as it did happen — without Rob Neyer. Rob, who was once James’ assistant, popularized sabermetrics via his ESPN column/blog, reaching far more people in his first few weeks as an Internet writer than the number of people to whom James sold his original Abstracts. He was the gateway drug for stat geekery. At least he was mine
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http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/31/rob-neyer-says-goodbye-to-espn/
Most baseball writers you read today would credit him as being a major influence.
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Yes, I know that. And I’ve never been impressed by the analysis that he’s had to offer. I don’t care that he had mass appeal—I found and still find his baseball content to be pretty underwhelming.
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The vast majority of baseball writers you read and like would disagree
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Well, isn’t it a relief to know that I’m allowed to disagree with them.
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Absolutely
But when accomplished people in a specific field tell me someone was very influential in that field, I tend to believe them.
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So he is Elvis to James’ Little Richard?
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Neyer was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
by jponry on Feb 8, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
He used to be a sabermetrician like you
then he took a blog comment to the knee.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Feb 8, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
I still think he’s a fairly insightful baseball analyst.
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Personally, I think anyone who spends too much at Whole Foods is either doing it on purpose or not paying attention. They have lots of great deals! If you avoid the hand-massaged beef and $30 bottles of $10 wine, it’s about the same as Safeway.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 4:22 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
i got really cheap and beautiful rainbow chard there a few weeks ago
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I don’t find Whole Foods to be any more expensive than Safeway or Raley’s/Bel Air, but with better quality items.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
I think, on the whole, it’s a bit more expensive than Safeway, but I’ve found great deals there and for some things, I’ve been able to get better prices than other more high-end stores.
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dont you people have holiday markets?
at least around here it has the same amount of organics as those other places for cheaper
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
in season yeah
But Whole Foods is like three blocks from my apartment so I might as well.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Safeway is so expensive. I go there because they have a lot of items I can’t get anywhere else, but I hate shopping there for normal stuff. I forget what it was that I wanted there the other day that was $6, and that I can get at Target for, like, $2.50.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
if i stick mainly to stuff w/ club card discount at safeway
it’s pretty cheap
Trader Joe’s is good too, but I find that their produce goes bad really quickly.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yeah, the produce at TJ’s is terrible. I buy most of my produce at Whole Foods, because it ends up being a better deal even if it’s more expensive (if that makes sense). At Safeway, I buy the loss leaders (like they had $.50 avocados the other day), but stay away from a lot of other stuff.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
The produce/fresh fruits at WF are generally higher quality. I’ve had to throw away Safeway stuff 1 day after buying them b/c they went bad.
Safeway is generally the last place I shop. It’s also located the closest to me.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 4:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I <3 Nate.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure about this, though:
He mentioned that he wasn’t as bulky as in prior years due to focusing more on baseball activities and flexibility than pumping iron.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
"I’ve been taking my reps everywhere but right field," Schierholtz said of his off-season regimen.
Nate at SS!
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Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
“We need Huff to bounce back.”
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Not as good as Cain bagels.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
DOVAHKIN
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 8, 2012 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
Harden is broken again.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 4:44 PM PST reply actions
Wait
Do this mean he was momentarily unbroken?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
So much for my idea of stashing him in the pen as Zito insurance.
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Feb 8, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
His injury is probably all your fault.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. He was full of water and somebody dropped him.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Feb 8, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Can we say goodbye to Whiteside and Burriss next?
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He’s going to be the player we think he can be, and that player is really, really bad at baseball.
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Feb 8, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
He has potential… to be really shitty.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
My wife would’ve still said yes had I used that method. I think.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Feb 8, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
This is like that commercial where the guy sets up a romantic dinner to propose to his wife, and feeds her canned soup.
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by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
P. Hut? Oh! Pizza Hut!
Hi, are you cute?
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 8, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
This is cool
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
There is no way that many people in northern Idaho root for the Vandals.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Feb 8, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Why does SDSU get shafted? Also, lol Stanford.
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LOL
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"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah that BC map is bullshit. Maine, NH and Vermont are all obsessed with there state schools. Especially for hockey.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 8, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
people in boston don't even care about BC sports that much
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
well
not really sports wise. it’s the only one that’s really Division I
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
idk if it's that
it’s probably that there are so many great pro sports teams tbh
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Meanwhile, in the Midwest...
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yes?
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
"Mmmmmm you called?"
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
“you rannnnggggggggg?
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I was basically pointing to the rampant popularity of collegiate (and high school) athletics in the Midwest and across the South where there are fewer professional teams.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Kinda surprised at Kentucky... basketball yea,
but Louisville i think has a little bit more of a fan base
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
BC Hockey is big in the suburbs of boston though.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 8, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I’m a New Hampshire alumn myself so FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU MIAMI OHIO!!!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 8, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
haha, it's ok, we're probably not getting to the tournament
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
This map is 100% accurate and can never be questioned. LOL STANFURD!
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
You can have Yreka if we get the Bay Area. Have fun with the meth labs!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
How the hell does Fresno have that many fans
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Was there any methodology to this at all?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Again, we get the Bay Area. Ever been to Yreka? That’s more like LOL CAL
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Wuuuutever you guys have like Palo Alto and San Jose’s pimples!
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
so this
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Feb 8, 2012 7:47 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
oh here we go again
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I’m not even sure what that means, but I like Palo Alto. Can’t say I’ve been to San Jose much.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
You can keep it!
LOL GWU! not even on the map.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Meh. Stanford > Berkeley. There’s a reason I didn’t go to Cal for grad school.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
/adjust monocle
Do your worst, sirrah!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
lol subject voib agreement
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Because it's the Valley. And football/basketball are HUGE
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
They put Pika on there!
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Feb 8, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Hank is preparing his Sabean defense article already!
Henry Schulman @hankschulman If Cain and/or Lincecum leave, it’ll be because a) they want to be elsewhere or b) they get a ridiculous offer Gs shouldn’t match.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I don’t see anything wrong in that tweet
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Feb 8, 2012 5:27 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I guess there is if someone is looking for a way to support a particular bias.
@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
o snap!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
I shouldn’t have stepped in the poo.
@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
It’s kind of like…..yeah. Aren’t those the only options?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
I think Schulman’s point is that he believes the Giants will make a sincere effort to re-sign them, but it’s contingent on 1) a reasonable price and 2) their desire to stay in San Francisco.
One could reasonably argue that they aren’t being aggressive enough in getting Cain locked up before Spring Training and that they stand a chance to bungle their opportunity, but I think Hank is at least right in general principle.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah I guess that makes sense.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
He’s conclusively ruled out alien abduction.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
They could sign reasonable contracts elsewhere.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m sure it been vetted in some thread I haven’t gotten to, but I’d really prefer shorter term / higher $$ deals for Timmy and Matt if Sabes can swing them.
Er
I don’t mean to give out spoilers, but no, he can’t swing that. Tim’s not taking even 3/90.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I'll allow it, but it ain't happening.
No way in hell either one signs a contract of fewer than 5 years. Probably not 6 either.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Well Sabean has already said the budget won’t be an issue in re-signing Lincecum and Cain. So the only reason would be they don’t want to stay.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
Right. If you want to pin anything on the FO, it’s the onus to convince Matt and Timmy to stay.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
We know one thing:
Baggs February 3rd, 2012
Cain proceeded to extol the virtues of being part of a strong rotation. That begs the question: Could Cain’s future be tied in a sense to Tim Lincecum, and the fact he only signed a two-year contract instead of a longer term deal that would buy out his free-agent years?
Cain was surprisingly candid in his response.
"It does," he said. "Because there’s nothing better than having a great rotation. There’s such a sense of confidence and companionship you have with each other. Maybe not all the pressure is on you to go out and win. We have four aces on the staff and that’s helpful. We really push each other. If someone has a bad start, the next guy wants to pick him up. I really believe in that."
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
It’s always mildly disquieting when lurkers post a joke as targeted as this one.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Just how many lurkers are there out there, watching you, hanging over your every word, memorizing everything you say?
rubs palms together
This is what I think Grant does.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Even more disquieting with a name like “Monsanto”!
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Evil corporation'd
Honestly, it’s just been my screen name for the last ~5 years or so. I think I picked it out sometime in high school because I liked the word, without really knowing anything about the company. I suppose I should probably pick something different out, but I’ve never really been able to find a word I like better.
Monsanta!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Bringing GMOs to good little boys and girls every winter!
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
That actually doesn't sound so bad
I mean, what if everyone got their own personalized organism or plant or whatever each year? Maybe that should be Monsanto’s plan to fix their PR problems – reinvent themselves as a “Make-A-Wish” type foundation, and then go around fulfilling people’s wishes for dragons or whatever as pets.
Zinc finger nucleases.
Unbelievably powerful technology.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
DNA cleavage domains… I like the sound of that.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
You can basically cleave DNA with a highly specific sequence. The potential for gene therapy stuff is mind blowing.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Sure. New technologies (particular cancer treatments!) are like prospects. Pick your favorite one. It could have stellar stats in the low minor leagues (Phase 1, and 2) and then completely suck in AAA/Phase 3. They’ll break your heart most of the time, but when they do come up and perform as well as expected, it’s awesome.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
A great technology for sure, but biology is just such a complex interactive system and there’s still so much to learn. It ain’t steam engines, valves and gearing.
Definitely true. It’s pretty amazing that Sigma Aldrich can develop a sequence specific ZFN for $10,000 at this point. We’ve used some in our mammalian cell work, and it saved literally 6-12 months of work on our end.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
This is how the Muties that are going to fight it out with the Cyborgs amongst the ashes of human civilization will be made.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
If they leave
The only way it reflects badly on the Giants is if we find out they offered significantly less than market value.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
If my wife leaves, it'll be because a) She wants to be with someone else or b) He's got a ridiculous pee pee Asian couldn't match
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
c) she met this cute waitress who somehow was on her family’s IM
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
MY JUNK!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
MY LOVELY LADY JUNKS
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
CHECK IT OUT!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Sabean has put all his eggs in the Cain/Lincecum basket
If he fails to re-sign them, that’s his failure
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Makes me think he’ll re-sign them no matter the price or concerns. I really believe this.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 8, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
BOOM
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I feel like Jeremy Lin’s ceiling as a meme is way higher than his ceiling as a player.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
He’ll stop playing when everyone on the Knicks gets healthy.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Baron is not a better option at this point.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 8, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
You are all over that guy’s jock.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
he’s my personal Tim Tebow
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I’m sorry for you.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
♪♫ your own personal Tebow ♪♫
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Gah! Now that tune is in my head.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
Gah! Now they are competing in my head. MAKE IT STOP!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
ummmmmm no
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1xrNaTO1bI
though the acoustic version is easier
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Greatest active basketball player?
Or greatest basketball player of all time?
I’d like to see him play.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
LIN LIN LIN
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 8, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
SPECIAL TREATMENT!!!!
Former Giants slugger Barry Bonds doesn’t have to part ways with his baseball bats, a federal judge has ruled.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Good call by the judge. I’m no fan of Mr. Barry “*” Bonds, but to prohibit him from owning his bats is just plain ridiculous.
I think people who go out of their way to identify themselves as politically incorrect might be the most obnoxious category on the entire internet.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
BeOS holdout.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Because there seems to be an issue with the Fan Post area
Adoption Draft page: http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2012/2/5/2774550/2012-adoption-draft-its-that-time-of-year
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
y’all keep your grubby hands off Pedro Feliz
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
we have our grubby hands on all of us?
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds unsanitary.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
At least you two have something to watch.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I hope it’s a better game than the last one.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
aaaaaaaw, I thought that was Thursday, not Wednesday.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
yeah, and it starts NOW.
7pm puck drop tonight for some reason.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Thanks for asking.
It’s a little better every day. I will ice it before I go to bed. I recommend Rock Sauce, that stuff is very soothing.
2012 is going to be awesome!
According to MASN’s Roch Kubatko, the Orioles are close to a minor league deal with Nick Johnson.
Johnson would probably prefer to sign with a better organization, but he has not attracted much interest on the open market this winter and may ultimately have to settle for a depth job with the O’s. The 33-year-old batted just .201 with a .654 OPS in 225 plate appearances last season in the Indians’ minor league system. He hasn’t appeared in a big league game since 2010./blockquote>
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
our old white whale :'(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Chicken sammich
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 8, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
warming up leftover curry from Monday night
I’m on this asparagus & portobello kick lately, so it’s got that, pork, and bell peppers. My curry paste went bad so I had to improvise; I think it went pretty well.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Mrs. B would run me outta the house if i went on an “asparagus kick” that lasted more than one meal.
frozen lasagna
with a few random appetizers (oysters, swedish meatballs, etc)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
we didn't end up having them :(
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Salad. Left over pizza.
@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
by kdl on Feb 8, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
uhhhh
Som gross shit thats gross.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
Alumnus or student?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Student.
I just got back from there myself.
I may have seen you...
Weird.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Those are, like, one of two good things there.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 8, 2012 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
asparagus and turkey meatloaf
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
Cheesecake Factory
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Feb 8, 2012 7:39 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
OMG
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
And he’s like ‘Dude, what the fuck?’
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 8, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
10 assists and 2 turnovers! DISTRIBUTION YO. +18 LIKE A BOSS
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Tortured: I saw that the Grizzlies are looking for National Anthem singers….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
free baseball tickets…
I’d guess. hmmm they wouldn’t make you pay to attend the game would they?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
How did Mr. Tortured interview go?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
He didn't get the job
but he didn’t really want it anyway. He has another interview tomorrow.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Point is, he's getting interviews, which is great
that’s the toughest thing to do in my opinion is getting to that point
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I’ve only had 3 interviews in a year… tell me about it
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I’ve gotten a few been turned down a few times and turned down a few jobs myself. autism is not my thing.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Have you considered special ed too? i know at least for my cousin in Michigan, she gets compensated a little more
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
no, i’ve just gone in for a couple of interviews where I found out like halfway through the interview that it was 89% autism work. No thanks.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
yea, i don't think my girlfriend wanted to go through that either
way too stressful and more work. She’s cool looking for 2nd/3rd/4th grade teaching jobs… hopefully she finds one in Chicago, in the suburbs at least
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
It's somewhat encouraging to at lest get to talk to someone.
Even if you don’t really want the job.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Exactly. that’s the best part, i went for that interview at Chabot even though i didn’t want it, it was a great opportunity, something that had to do with teaching, and i had no experience with kids. Got the job, but i turned it down.
One thing i love doing is interviewing, since i take that as a challenge
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
And that's what employers love
sometimes, even though you might not be qualified, they might love your personality and your willingness to learn, and just train you on the job.
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I wonder if they even do that anymore
seeing as there’s so many people out of work.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Yea… i would assume there is some age discrimination involved unfortunately, i know my friend who is a recent graduate is trained on the job… he knew someone in that business to get him the job… which is like 80% of how people get jobs now
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
LOL SMOG!!
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Reminds me i need to go back and see some family at Simonian Farms… and head over to Hungry Bear in Fig Garden
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Man, check out Rio Grill in the Sierra Vista mall area
All you can eat Brazilian buffet. The lunch menu has 6 kinds of skewers and the dinner menu has 12. It’s amazing.
So alone...
Twitter
WOW, that sounds amazing, only had Brazilian buffet once, and it was damn good
flip the card over if you want more food? that sort of thing?
Eureka Burger was great when we went there last time
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
You have this little thing on the table, green on one end, red on the other.
As long as it’s green whenever a server brings out a skewer that’s done he will stop by your table and offer you some. You can also ask them for a particular type of meat/skewer.
So alone...
Twitter
that's it, i remember. Did that same thing, and i kept forgetting to switch it to red
those are the best… cept for that moment when one of my friends found something unpleasant in his food… O_O
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Bummer. I been to this place 2 in the last month for lunch.
It’s pretty new and it’s sooooooo good.
So alone...
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You pay once, right? or what? and really, it wasn’t bad since my buddy got his food free
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Yeah you pay at the end,
Cause you can just do the salad bar and no skewers if you want, but then you would be in idiot.
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Haha, who the hell eats salad?
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I'm not a rabbit, hence i don't eat salad
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Sounds like the sopapillas at Casa Bonita.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Korean BBQ buffet!
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by CalBear949 on Feb 8, 2012 8:06 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Owen Nolan has great teeth for a professional hockey player.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Great teeth in general, really.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
maybe they’re fake.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Nope, yesterday in his press conference he said that he still has all of his teeth.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
Ricci does too.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Feb 8, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Aw, Danny Boyle with the flu
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Owen Nolan's number should be retired
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nah
I feel that someone should have played the majority of their career with a team to get their number retired
8 of 18 seasons isnt enough for me
by that standard Kent’s number shouldnt be retired by the giants either
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Ricci
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dont think his number should be retired either
Marleau is a maybe.
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
I like the way the red wings do it
retire a number if he is hall of fame caliber and or played a long career almost exclusivly with the team
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
VINNY
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yea, it should be Marleau, leads the team in points all time
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career shark
I could see him being the first
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
yea. I also hope Logan sticks around
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Should I troll Rob Neyer on twitter, or has he had enough today?
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 7:19 PM PST reply actions
i don't even know who he is
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editor in chief of Baseball Nation
He wrote a really silly blurb about Jeremy Affeldt earlier today, and people have been dog-piling him all day (long subthread about it up the page.) He’s taken a lot of shit for it already, but man, it was pretty dumb.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
well that's kinda rude, slightly
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To be fair, I’m pretty sure Solidarity and I felt this way about him long before that post of his.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
mrs. owlcroft burned him something fierce.
Hey, give Neyer a break.
He obviously had nothing better to do like, say, write a column that required some thought or research.
Seriously, Rob, this was really dumb and makes it seem like you don’t know anything about the players you write about. Kind of like you still worked at ESPN or something.
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yeah that was a really dumb post to make
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Grant's boss!
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
so... we're all about to be kicked off here because of it?
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Grant’s boss at his other job.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Feb 8, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, /saved
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But not the one that posts llamas on the front page.
For better or worse.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Feb 8, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
he should know that McC trolling Grant’s boss and vice versa is a long-standing tradition
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 8, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
DEFENSE!!!!
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Did not know i'd be this sore after going to the driving range yesterday, jeeze
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ha, yea, remember to stretch before you play
first time for me since June
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Oh man WANT
http://holykaw.alltop.com/nintendo-and-converse-collaborate-on-an-amazi?tu3=1
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
wow
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Damn
arnt the flames like the worst offensive team in hockey
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:35 PM PST reply actions
THATS offensive
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Lol sharks :(
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
playing to the level of their competition... of course
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LOL ALL BAY AREA SPORTS.
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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 8, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Grant couldn't even find a picture of Christian.
He’ll be missed.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
wine glass
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First, medicinal wine from a teaspoon.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Feb 8, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
no.
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
serious question from an extremely fair weather hockey fan
What is the point of watching regular season sharks games? With 8 teams going to the playoffs, its basically a guarantee that they will make the playoffs. So whats the point of watching the regular season?
I just enjoy watching hockey period. But really, the playoffs have a TON more energy
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college hockey is intense
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FROZEN FOUR
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
bad memories
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whats the point of watching any game
the next day you could just read about the result on espn
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by operation carrot on Feb 8, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
What's the point of eating breakfast?
I mean, I’m just going to eat lunch anyway.
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
bacon
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by CalBear949 on Feb 8, 2012 7:57 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I usually have an omelette after the gym each morning.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
egg white omelettes are awesome
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by CalBear949 on Feb 8, 2012 8:02 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
yes
fluffy and crunchy edge without the cholesterol.
you could make a hybrid. One egg mixed with two egg whites
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by CalBear949 on Feb 8, 2012 8:05 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
THIS COUNTRY HAS FALLEN INTO THE HANDS OF FUCKING PANSIES
WHATS NEXT DECAF COFFEE!?!?!
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souffles
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by CalBear949 on Feb 8, 2012 8:08 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
why not have breakfast for lunch?
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i mean... breakfast is the most important meal of the day, but go ahead and do what you want
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This is completely correct.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I am mostly trying to learn more about the sport, as I am trying to be less fairweather about it.
Hopefully by the playoffs, I can open my mouth about hockey without sounding like a complete moron.
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lolu!
You can’t even do that about baseball!
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Because the regular season is when the Sharks actually win
LOL jk…sort of
pants are overrated
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skorts then
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by CalBear949 on Feb 8, 2012 8:06 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
wasn't this on last night?
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yea, i know, just didn't know if this is a repeat of last night, or what
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
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lol, it dont matta!
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weird
first homestand this year is against pirates and phils.
hardly play nl west at all the first two months, then september is 2 games against the cubs to start and then nothing but NL West.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
so... undefeated homestand?
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Bizarro Halladay Charlie Morton?
Their ERA leader last year was Jeff Karstens (3.38). Far and away the best K/BB, too (2.91).
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
McCutchen? Nah.
Pedro Alvarez.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
It's usually Clint Barmes.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
McCutchen, Gary Brown, Nate Schierholtz outfielders
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Needz Peguero for more VROOOOOOOOM
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
yea, bulk of the NL West schedule was August/September
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Wow, we start the season with two series on the road
That’s a bummer.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
/championship!
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dbacks and rockies
ugh
0-6
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I thought that's what the SoCal road trip was for?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
It feels like forever since we opened at home (2009).
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
SON OF A
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THIS GAME SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Wingels won't be back for a while... Boyle out
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I almost went
So glad I didnt
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
The Mister gave up, He went upstairs to shoot things.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
and I am now barricading the stair way to keep him up there.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THIS GAME
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
FUCK THIS GAME
SO GLAD I DIDNT GO
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
SNIPED
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WOW SICK PASS
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sweet shot by Logan
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