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An interview of Bruce Bochy and Brian Sabean by a bunch of unfettered Hot Pocket-lovin', basement-livin', level-81-paladin-clamin' bloggers. To Bochy and Sabean's credit, they waited until the cameras weren't on them to make the universal wanky motion. Good on you, fellas! This is pretty danged cool.

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level-81-paladin-clamin’

I used to be a crusader, but I took a bivalve to the knee.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Feb 7, 2012 7:52 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

paladins are just the worst

smug-ass fancylad motherfuckers

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 7, 2012 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea man

If you are going to wear all that armor, heal spells are just cheating.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Have grin, will self-heal

"Only connect..."
E. M. Forster

by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Sabean has at least heard of advanced metrics. This I did not know.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

He actually said the words “Range Factor” and “Small Sample Size.” But then he also admitted to overspending on relief pitchers because they wanted to keep the pitching intact.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

The worst career decision of my life was to be righthanded, lemme tellya.

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I came so close

My dad is a lefty and pitched at Dartmouth (1976 team ERA leader! Also went 3-8 with poor run support).

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

ERA and W/L? Who are you? Give me your dad’s FIP or something.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Alas

Those are the only stats available on the Dartmouth historical stats website, and pops is an unreliable narrator of his pitching prowess.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

An athlete, unreliable? Forfend.

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Fun fact though

The guy who was the Dartmouth team leader in 74 and 75 before my dad was this dude:

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1000731&position=P

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember him. Was never a big AL fan so I don’t think I ever saw him in person, but there were enough As games on the teevee now and then around me. Not bad.

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately my dad grew up in southie, so his only experience of people with baseball bats didn’t involve playing baseball.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

But they moved to LA while he was in HS and he got to go to class with Leslie van Houten

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Statistics show left-handed people are more likely to be schizophrenic, alcoholic, delinquent,
dyslexic, and have Crohn’s disease and ulcerative colitis, as well as mental disabilities. They’re
also more likely to die young and get into accidents

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but they’re also very likely to get signed to a $5MM one year deal by Sabean at some point in their lives.

Boo

by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Feb 7, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

The question then is, Is Sabean a lefty?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

So basically, they are less likely to have their shit together.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

how long could you handle

having to use left-handed scissors without breaking down!

I'm a failure. I can't even fake the death of a stripper.
-GOB Bluth

by ELOOIE on Feb 7, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s actually having to use right handed scissors that causes fits of rage.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 7, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I was just trying to illustrate for a right handed person what its like being left handed in a right handed world!

I'm a failure. I can't even fake the death of a stripper.
-GOB Bluth

by ELOOIE on Feb 7, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Statistics show GuyWhiteyCorngood is more likely to be a total fucking buzzkill.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 7, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha, I just have that handy because out of the 6 people I work with, 3 are left-handed.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Lotsa sinister presidents

"Only connect..."
E. M. Forster

by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven't gotten to this point yet:
Near the end was probably the most awkward moment for me. I asked Sabean what I thought was a relatively innocuous question, what Bruce Bochy brings to the table that other managers don’t. I didn’t mean it as a shot at Bochy in the slightest, more just a look into Sabean’s feelings since they seem to work pretty well together. While Sabean spoke complimentary of Bochy, I kept looking over at the Giants manager, and he was staring right through me. I don’t know if he thought I was taking a shot at him, but by the look on his face it sure seemed like it.

But that sounds weird.

by kaliber on Feb 7, 2012 7:57 AM PST reply actions  

Shouldn't that be "complimentarily?"

/enough with the pedantic spelling corrections, WTAWTAM. It’s too fucking early in the morning for that shit.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Feb 7, 2012 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Take it up with him, I just Grant_me_mercy’d that.

by kaliber on Feb 7, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, since the camera didn’t pan over to Bochy until this exchange with Sabean was complete, I can’t say for certain…but it just looked like Bochy had mentally checked out of the session that was in the middle of being wrapped up. His mind looked to be on other things.

by kaliber on Feb 7, 2012 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

‘Man.. these really are the strongest cough drops you can get without a prescription.’

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I looked over at Bochy several times while Sabean was answering the question, and he was staring at me the whole time. I figured he’d look away if I kept glancing over … nope. I almost moved the camera over to Bochy during that time, but for some reason I didn’t.

I was told the night before we’d only be talking to Sabean, so when Bochy came in first I was surprised. I had the question prepared for Sabean only, and if I had a second chance to do the interview I probably wouldn’t have asked the question.

"We just have to go back and watch the film and look at the things that we need to do and correct and go forward." -- Mike Singletary
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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I didnt' watch the video

By my response was like how would you feel if your GF’s friend asked your gf how good of a bf you are, when you are sitting in the room. Awkward.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I would have thought it’s a gimme though. I mean, unless your reply is “Give me a week and I’ll think of one”.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

The unheard question

“Hey, Brian, Grant Frisbee is too busy getting lost in a bottle booze to be here but he wanted me to tell you that you smell as bad as Howie. What do you say to that?”

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 8:06 AM PST reply actions  

Fifth best Giants blogger at best.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 7, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

“I don’t mind the drinking, but does he really have to watch me poop?”

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

oh god.
If the offense doesn’t improve as we hope it will…

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 8:20 AM PST reply actions  

hope run. like. hell.

Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.

by tobias on Feb 7, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the lineup mostly

Esp compared to last year. Huff clogging the wheels and Buster recovering slow are my only 2 worries.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m more worried about Freddy, although I guess Fontenot at second wouldn’t be as bad as Stew or Eli.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

The drop off at second is nearly as steep as at other positions

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Freddy definitely has a higher chance of not playing or not playing well than Buster does.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I would say that Freddy has a higher chance of not playing, but Posey has a higher chance of not playing well when playing.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Really? Buster sounds so confident and his rehab reports have been stellar. And Freddy is just much older and less likely to heal well.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

What pro-athlete/team is going to say an injury isn’t healing well? It just doesn’t happen if there is ANY HEALING what so ever. I also expect Posey to be gun shy for good portion of the season as the type of injury he was just brutal and may put a little hesitation in his game. Also his injury and the position he play might prove difficult.

Freddy is a injury pro. He’s been through this knows what it takes to get back to full speed mentally.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

They are interviewing Buster and Groeschner on Buster’s injury and they’re both saying glowing things. They’ve been avoiding talking to Freddy about his in anything but the most general terms. Bochy expressed doubt that Freddy would start opening day.

Freddy’s injury is to his throwing shoulder. I don’t know about whether Buster will show fear, but he seems pretty emotionally solid so if anyone can deal with it, I think he can.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I just think that if Freddy plays, he has a better chance at playing up to his talent than buster. That doesn’t mean that Buster won’t it just that I can see his injury effecting his play more, when healthy, that Freddy’s.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

One thing I'm wondering about...

It seems as if most of the discussion on Buster’s comeback centers on how his defense and running will be impacted by the injury. Has there been any informed discussion on how it might impact his hitting?

I’m thinking that since it was his left ankle rather than his right ankle, the injury should have minimal impact on his hitting (other than just general rustiness from the long layoff). But has this been discussed?

Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.

by tobias on Feb 7, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s still his plant foot. I mean, it’s not unreasonable to expect that it could effect him in some way. Plus, let’s not try to think too much about him fouling a ball off his ankle.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if it's been discussed

but my desktop picture right now is Buster in the contact portion of his swing, and there is much stress to the outside of his left ankle. I could see maybe it being an issue.

He seems resigned to continuing to rehab it during at least the next season and maybe forever.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Posey more important to lineup at 4 spot, than Freddy is. A Fontenot Theriot platoon would not be a disaster, but replacing Posey with Stewart or anyone else again is massive.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

There's a pretty cromulent major league lineup here; we just won't see it

Pagan CF
Belt 1B
Posey C
Sandoval 3B
Huff LF
Cabrera RF
Crawford SS
Sanchez 2B

Nate spelling Cabrera, Huff & Pagan regularly; Theriot and Fontenot as MI help for when Freddy implodes and/or Crawford looks completely helpless; Stewie as backup C; Gregor Blanco for the hell of it.

Ain’t happening, though.

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 7, 2012 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotta move Belt down and Posey up until Belt shows some more contact ability (yes, I am an old douchebag when it comes to meaningless lineup construction).

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

See parenthetical statement!

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

What the hell is “contact” supposed to mean, anyway? More likely to ground to short than walk?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s wrong with that, then?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing. GP was just saying it’s not needed at #2 any more than it is anywhere else.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, right, thanks.

I thought he was saying that “contact” was a straw hat meaningless term.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Huff in left just plain scares me.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Feb 7, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

the fact they'd consider it scares me

Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker

One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010

by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

He did fine in 2010

6.2 UZR/150 over 258 innings. I don’t think he’d be great, but I’d rather Belt play his natural position and get comfortable.

Put it this way: could he really be worse than Pat?

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 7, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

As long as he’s in the…Best Shape of His Life!

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

258 innings is a pretty meaningless sample. Probably have to regress that towards what you’d otherwise expect >80%, if not more.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

And can “handle the bat” to “move the runner over”. A decently high OBP is ideal, too. I think Belt can provide that OBP, honestly, and I must admit that some of my opinions are colored by the certainty within the Giants’ organization. I mean, I guess I should make it clear that in an ideal world I would think x, but given what I know (and what we all know of the Giants) I settle for y. In this case, if they somehow got Freddy out of the two-hole, I would still expect them to stick to the traditional roles and someone perceived as being a “high contact” guy would inherit the #2 position and I’d hope/expect that to be Posey.

Then again, if Lies and Perfidy’s lineup ever made the field I’d just be happy that it existed and probably wouldn’t quibble with the order.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean

If you offer me a guy with a .335 OBP who strikes out all the time or a guy with a .334 OBP who almost never strikes out, I’m taking the .001 OBP.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

OBP fetishist.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Feb 7, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Is this assuming equal number of PAs? Adjusted for position? Regardless of other factors (power vs. speed, for example)? Your strict interpretationist act will not hold water here!

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m with you, but probably a different reason. I’d want the guy who doesn’t strike out to hit a little later in the lineup, where he might encounter more runners on third, the one time where striking out is actually worse than making a different type of out.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

I’m talking about, like, in general, not just for one spot in the batting order. I’m saying if you offered me either one of those guys to be on my team, I’d take OBP guy.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure this would be a mistake. The player who doesn’t strike out is bound to have a higher batting average, and singles are more valuable than walks.

by Evan on Feb 7, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

What if he’s slower than a Molina?

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd take this also because

I’d rather have the strikeout than the ground into double play.

This is the Giants we are talking about.

I'm a failure. I can't even fake the death of a stripper.
-GOB Bluth

by ELOOIE on Feb 7, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

GDPs aren’t necessarily all bad. Often times they are a symptom of a team that is just getting a lot of guys on base.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t really taking a stance as much as I was making fun of how good the giants are at hitting into them.

I'm a failure. I can't even fake the death of a stripper.
-GOB Bluth

by ELOOIE on Feb 7, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Makes sense.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm taking the guy with the .609 OBP

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Sanchez is the number 2 hitter because he is a number 2 hitter. I mean, he plays a middle infield position and everything.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 7, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Watching those two NLCS games, I kept seeing Freddy slapping the ball into a gap here or there for a single and getting on base (and often getting stranded). This seems appropriate behavior for a 2nd place hitter to me.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

i may be too optimistic about the team, but we shall see

the Buster injury obviously worries me, but won’t know anything until spring training when he plays in a real game situation

Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker

One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010

by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

It is just entertainment

How can that be too optimistic?
I have $40 on 16 to 1 odds the Giants win it all this year. How is that for optimism?

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m saying, i’m optimistic that the team will do well, given the injuries and the pathetic offense of last year. Fact is, i really don’t know anything about how the giants’ offense will perform until spring training, let alone the regular season.

Betting…. BAD

Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker

One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010

by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

HAHA, WHAT THE HELL. THAT IS SO WEIRD

Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker

One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010

by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

It really seems like the Giants are at least making an effort to involve the bloggers

Just goes to show you the power of social media and the internet in general these days.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

+1

Social Media is only starting to change the world.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

If Grant is a blogger, what does that make me?

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

HE'S MOVING LIKE A TREMENDOUS MACHINE
D’Antoni thought about taking him out late in the third quarter. Lin convinced him to reconsider. The coach obliged, saying later that he was going to ride Lin “like friggin’ Secretariat.”

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

Mental image status: Cannot be unseen

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Yay new thread to ask a dumb question!

But let’s say that sansuseph comes around, posey shows he really can’t handle catching 140 games a year, and Belt is firmly entreated at first, do you think that maybe Buster could play Left? I know it’s a lot of hypotheticals, but It worries me.

When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....

by scespy12 on Feb 7, 2012 8:45 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Entrenched

When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....

by scespy12 on Feb 7, 2012 8:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

"Sansuseph" took me a second, but I like it

Even if it sounds like someone from a Scott Bakker fantasy novel.

I imagine that if Buster has issues this season, they’ll begin exploring positional alternatives, though the most likely scenario is probably “Buster catches 80 games and plays 70 somewhere else” or something like that. Bochy likes modular lineup pieces.

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 7, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish I could take credit but I think that was a Giant Frisbee creation.

When I played I was a triple threat.... Stumble.... Fumble.....Grumble....

by scespy12 on Feb 7, 2012 9:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Well done.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 7, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

sansuseph

I still dont get it. “Without useph” is as close as I get.

I do, generally, understand the dick jokes.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 7, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

(Hector) Sanchez, Susac, Joseph

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Thx both.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 7, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I would especially like “Sansuseph” if it was Susan’s last name.

Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.

by tobias on Feb 7, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

If you call what Raul Ibanez has done the last couple of years “playing” then yes.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

In that scenario Belt gets traded for a corner outfielder

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

In a perfect world, if Belt is hitting well enough to start regularly

he would go to left while Posey went to first. All sorts of non-statistical hunches tell me Belt will be anything but mediocre…either he’ll crush enough that even Bochy puts him in there as much as possible, or he’ll be so terrible we won’t mind benching him. Personally I think he has the POTENTIAL to be the best hitting outfielder we have; but time will tell.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Feb 7, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

It was interesting to listen to Boch & Sabes hedge and hem and haw

about what the lineup is going to be. It all depends on who shows up in ST. That’s kind of sad.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It all depends on who shows up in ST. That’s kind of sad.

Yeah, this is just a bad process.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure if that’s really what they do or what they say to the press. They kind of can’t throw Huff under the bus before he’s even had a chance to show off those new Pilates abs.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

And they could end up not breaking camp with Freddy and Buster.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Eric Young Jr.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Frankie Pegs!

VROOM! More SBs than walks!

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 7, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Todd Linden

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Podsednik!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think Brown will be up until September 2013 at the earliest

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Zito

Gotta put him somewhere

Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.

by tobias on Feb 7, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Pedro Feliz

at the end of the day it's all about kicking the tires

by duke_diligence on Feb 7, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Ludwick

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

johnny damon

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Feb 7, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you already rosterbating to next offseason????

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

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by Bay Area Sports Guy on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it just me, or does someone in the organization say that we’ve gotten a little more athletic/have a little more speed so we’ll be able to run the bases/do something things we didn’t do last year, EVERY SINGLE YEAR?

Shouldn’t we be stealing like 900 bases as a team by now if that’s the case?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:12 AM PST reply actions  

We’re a little faster this year, but we balance it out by our extraordinary incompetence at judgment and extreme predictability.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that seems like an annual refrain.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Possibly driven by most of our “fast” guys in the past being, in fact, guys like Velez and Lewis who weren’t actually great baserunners despite their supposed athleticism. So then the next guy comes along, and the front office says, “Okay, THIS guy can really run.”

Great baserunners the last few years I can think of immediately are Torres (obviously) and Randy Winn (for success, not frequency). Who else?

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by Ott on Feb 7, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, one has to get to first base in order to steal another.

That was a far bigger challenge than swiping a few more last year.

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by breadfan7 on Feb 7, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm confused

Where is the Jeremy Affeldt signing or the trade for Pagan?

On a slightly more serious note, I love that #4, Oswalt, hasn’t even happened yet.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

If the Giants tried to sign Beltran his price tag would have tripled.

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by xanthan on Feb 7, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

WE JUST DON'T KNOW!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

What were they last year? Just curious how they turned out.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t remember them doing one last winter. I could be wrong though. Well, no, I’m not wrong – I don’t remember them doing it, but they could have done it.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

So this was just an exercise in shaming Sabean and all Giants fans?

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

No

Just a column about what they thought were the best signings. I don’t think it even mentions the Giants.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Which, in a way, is shaming us. SHAMING US!

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by xanthan on Feb 7, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel ashamed.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

It could have been Dave Cameron trolling Giants fans, but more likely it was just the Giants organization being exposed as incompetent.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Lemme break it down for you:

If the Giants had signed Reyes, the deal would’ve been 10 years/ $212MM. If they had signed Beltran it would’ve been 4 years, $85MM.

They never had a chance.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

.
the fact that it only required a two year deal to land a premium hitter to replace Pujols keeps the team in position to stay competitive for the long term as well. Like with Reyes and Oswalt, there are durability concerns, but the price tag is so low that Beltran could spend weeks on the DL and still easily earn his salary.

This makes me want to tear my hair out. The Giants go on and on about how they don’t want to sign long term contracts and yet let Beltran go. He also signed for such a reasonable price that even the injury concerns are negated.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

No shocker

but I disagree with the analysis. The price tag is not low. It’s just not a long term deal. $13 million is still 2.5-3 WAR.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

Beltran could be worth his two year contract even if he misses a whole year.

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I have a question.

With Yu Darvish signing such a large contract, how long will it be before top and middle tier prospects forgo the drafting system in the US to play in Japan in order to get to the big FA signing a little sooner?

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by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 9:29 AM PST reply actions  

I think the posting process is going to change before your scenario develops

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but why don’t guys like Bryce Harper establish residency offshore? As an international FA he would have signed for quite a lot more money. He was already leaving school. How hard would it be to get a smallish advance from your agent and establish residence in Aruba?

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

What are the advantages of being in the US draft anyway?

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Boras has talked about doing this

I am not sure why he hasn’t tried it yet.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s baffling. Harper should have been the poster child.

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Originally from J Cross, posted here on the Book blog:

Why doesn’t a guy like Strasburg or Bryce Harper put a little game theory to work when negotiating their contract?

Everyone knows that the best way to win a game of chicken is to blindfold yourself and throw the steering wheel out the window. The other driver has no choice but to swerve.

So, why doesn’t Bryce Harper publicly sign a contract with a third party promising to pay them the entirely of his signing bonus should he sign for a penny less than $20MM. Now he has no incentive to sign for less than $20MM and a team that doesn’t want to pay $20MM for him has no incentive to draft him. Is this forbidden somehow?

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

If I’m a team, I draft him and say, “well, we’re not giving you $20MM, so how much do you want to give to that third party? How does 20 bucks sound?”

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Their fans would riot.

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Then he sits out a year, plays in an independent league, and enters the draft again.

Your plan only works if the other owners collude with you and agree to blackball him Andre Dawson-style. Otherwise, you’re just out a first-round draft pick.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Which I get compensated for the following year. Meanwhile he misses a year of baseball. Starts his career a year later. The kid tested out of high school early to move his baseball career forward. That all goes away if he doesn’t sign the first year he’s drafted.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think it would be a good idea

teams would have to pay a ton just to negotiate. That would reduce the amount given to the player on the contract. Makes more sense to be good, become a super-2.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the posting process is very good for the team. On the other hand, if they post and fail to reach an agreement, they become a FA a year later right?

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

But the team can refuse to post the player who is under the contract.

So, if I was a Japanese team I would make sure that I would have a 4-5 year contract.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s better to go somewhere else.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

There are new rules to US and International prospects

With caps. I think the international bonus cap max is pretty close to 1st overall pick cap max.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Time to go confuse the shit out of some people.

I’m going to go do my first training session ever!!!

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by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

Training them to do what?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s where the confusion begins.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully to hit the ball and get on base.

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

We have a new web based application and request system that I’ve made. Its going live today so I had to explain it to all of the users before we went live.

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by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Where is 22gigante?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 9:36 AM PST reply actions  

I want to see Grant and him going at it

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

This isn’t your fanfic.

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by Natto on Feb 7, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

It's a great day to be a high school teacher!!!

The California State Exit Exam will keep all students (sophomores) busy all day.

I just sit at my computer and try to discourage cheating.

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by gallo del cielo on Feb 7, 2012 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

Hey Gallo!

and corrected

I just sit at my computer and try to discourageencourage cheating.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

One of the scariest parts of my childhood in class was getting accused of cheating...

during the middle of a test, “ANDREW!! I SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING, DO NOT LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDER AT SARAH’S TEST!” FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING, DO NOT LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDER AT SARAH’S TEST CLEAVAGE!"

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by bgunn on Feb 7, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah…I was going to go there but felt creepy.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

HA, this was like, junior high!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

You didn’t notice girls until after junior high?

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I was wondering that too. I thought it might be a statement on the state of her cleavage though.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s what I thought, as someone who has been watching the Wonder Years a lot lately. they even make jokes about it in the show.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

When I was in junior high, I didn’t know guys look at girls cleavage.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Just a glance

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Most of the time they were too busy trying to hide an erection to look long enough for you to notice.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t know anything about erections either.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

/glances

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

More like “physically unable to look away from something they aren’t even consciously aware of”

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, this.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

If they don’t cheat now, how will they learn later?!

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

DO OR DO NOT. THERE IS NO TRY.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

But only a sith deals in absolutes!

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Constitutional Law OT:

Prop 8: Unconstitutional

Now back to your regularly scheduled blogging

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Today’s a good day

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s going to the Supreme Court, and that’s all that really matters.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Not with this court, it doesn’t.

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

actually

if Kennedy is still on the court, there is good chance it will get upheld.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

If by ‘it’ you mean the 9th, I’ll believe it when I see it.

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

“it” is the decision. Kennedy have sided with with civil rights on these issues, Lawrence v. Texas is a prime example.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Are the other four nonfascists certain to uphold?

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

There are 4 lock votes to uphold (Breyer, Sotomeyer, Ginsburg and Breyer). Kennedy is the swing vote.

It will be interesting to see if it gets appealed. The facts are not good and an upholding by the Supreme Court would make it the law of the land. On the other hand, there is a strong chance that if Obama get re-elected, he could appoint at least two (maybe three) S.C. justices, including Scalia and Kennedy . This would dramatically shift the S.C. to 6 liberals and 3 conservatives.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Scalia? Is he sick? Kennedy is pretty young, why would he leave?

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I would think Ginsburg would be the next to go, with her health issues.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I heart her.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Ginsburg is 78
Kennedy is 75
Scalia is 75
Breye is 73.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow

How did Kennedy get that old?

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

being born in 1936 :)

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Day at a time, I suppose.

by QuakeFan on Feb 7, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I have a feeling that

Ginsburg and Breyer will definitely retire if Obama gets reelected. That means that Obama could replace 6 of the 9 S.C. justices in his 8 years. That would be huge for many years to come.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Not unprecedent

but up there.

Roosevelt had 8 (but he had 13 years)
Washington had 10 (he doesn’t count because he appointed the first SC).

Eisenhower and Nixon both appointed 6 and those appointees had dramatic impact on history.’

Taft had 6 but you know, it’s Taft.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

pretty much

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

…and history would be so different if FDR pulled of the court unpacking scheme.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 7, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Depending on how lefty his appointees are.

And how lefty the ones that don’t get Borked (<- non-Bochy version) are.

His track record is pretty darn centrist, and (equally distressingly to liberals) his appointees to the bench skew much older than those of previous presidents. Which is a big deal when you’re talking about lifetime appointees.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Feb 7, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

What i love is

you actually never know how a SC Justice will be until they’re appointed and reviewing cases. There have been some surprises.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

"I made two mistakes, and both of them ...

are sitting on the Supreme Court."

That’s Eisenhower, as he was leaving office. He thought he was getting conservatives in Warren and Brennan.

by Grievous Angel 312 on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think Sandra Day O'Connor

turned out how Reagan expected, either.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Or Kennedy.

My media law professor in grad school described him as a 19th century libertarian. He voted with the majority against sodomy laws … yet also ruled that a private organization (Boy Scouts) could exclude gay leaders. He voted to extend habeas corpus to Gitmo but also to strike down D.C.’s gun control law..

Kennedy sides with the conservative wing more often than the liberal. But compared to what Reagan would consider a stalwart conservative, he’s a mixed bag.

by Grievous Angel 312 on Feb 7, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always thought the Warren thing was interesting.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

That Eisenhower seems like a pretty good cat.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Once we get rid of the electoral college and the filibuster, we should turn to instituting an 18-year term limit on Supreme Court judges.

by Evan on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather 1 or 2 term limits to Congress first.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Change Congress! Lawrence Lessig!

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

That would actually be really bad

it takes congress people one to two terms just to know what’s going on.

If you don’t like your congress person, vote them out.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

This.

But the same could be said for POTUS.

It’s seems odd that a representative democracy does not have the freedom to choose its representatives.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

But the POTUS is just him/her. A single congress person (even a senator) have really little power, especially one who was just elected.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

It takes them one to two terms just to know what’s going on because it’s being run by a bunch of people who have been there a long time. If everyone is fresh, I don’t think that would be the case.

And it’s not that I dislike my congress person, it’s that I don’t feel that it should be a career. It shouldn’t be a quest for power and money.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

No, it takes them a couple of year to know just to know where everything is and what to do. A congress person’s term is only two years.

It takes more tenure to become influential.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

What other job in the world could you defend like that? Yes, ma’am, I know I’m your son’s teacher, but it’s going to take me 4 years to know where my classroom is and know what to do.

Here is your firetruck and your hose, don’t worry, after 4 years of watching buildings burn to the ground and babies dying, you’ll get the hang of it.

I’m sorry, your wife passed away. Why yes, there were many things that could have been done, CPR for instance, but the doctor assisting her has only been here for 3 years.

I could do this all day.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Most professional jobs take a long time to learn to do well, yeah…actually, even most non professional jobs take a while to learn.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

To do well, and taking

a couple of year to know just to know where everything is and what to do

are very different.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Well yeah, that still isn’t that weird. I mean, most lawyers are terrible out of school, and they actually had a school (such as it is). I mean, figuring out the power structure of the federal government and then learning to correctly manipulate it is not a simple task.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Or, to use your example, a doctor. That’s exactly what it takes, a lot of on the job training.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

and

you certainly do not want a bunch of first year doctors to be running the hospital.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, certain types of doctors actually score better right out of schooling than doctors that have been on the job for awhile, but even ignoring that point, what skills are members of congress gaining while in office?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

It's not about skills

it’s about connections.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Connections that are only necessary because other people have them, because they’ve held their position for 20 years.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

What? They would still need to form connections even if everyone around them got replaced.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Well yes, but the connections wouldn’t have to be as deep.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

And they wouldn’t be based on decades old gentlemen’s agreements of tit-for-tat.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

They would be based on days old gentlemans’ agreements, or what?

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

They would not need to be as deep because…they have a greater mastery of the material?

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

What fields of medicine does that apply to? And they’re building relationships, trying to gauge public opinion, figuring out how to integrate old laws into new ones and so on…

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

There have been studies about doctors who do a lot of diagnostics and things that take time to find out if they’re wrong. Like say I look at a mammogram and say you don’t have cancer, but I missed a spot, and you do. The delay between discovering that I’m wrong is so long between when I did the test that my skills deteriorate over time if I’m not being given more immediate feedback.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

In general I will take a doctor fresh out of residency/fellowship everyday over an experienced physician. There are physicians that put in the considerable time and effort to retain their skills and keep up to date. But, in general, those fresh from training are far more up-to-date on current research, techniques and procedures. Of course I’m a big fan of the practice they call “evidence-based medicine.” Which is much bigger in the younger set.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m going to disagree with you on this and you definitely don’t want to apply this logic to lawyers.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I never would apply this logic to lawyers. Clearly the two are fundamentally different.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah one are a drain on society and the other are doctors.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

BOOM

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Normally I would get upset, but I can’t really compare myself to a physician (or a dentist).

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Because, in my opinion and in the simplest terms, being an exceptional doctor is primarily based knowledge of the subject. Being an exceptional lawyer is primarily based on knowledge of the process. Only one of those necessarily increases reliably and constantly with experience.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You’ll have to fill me on which one that is, because either or neither could apply, and in any event competent representation depends on at least competence in both substantive and procedural matters.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Aside from totally disagreeing with every single conclusory statement in here (physicians not keeping their skills up to date?), this is not legal advice, and I am not your representative: don’t do anything you just said in this paragraph when hiring a lawyer.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

And yes, physicians not keep their skills and knowledge up is a widespread problem.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

This is bullshit

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no significant reason to think that whatever eradication of skills occurs over time outweighs the gain of other skills, such as evaluation, over time.

Going back to the CPR example (not perfect, but it’s around): you would rather have an EMT who’s never done it in practice do it instead of a 5 year! OK!

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok. This is crap. Whenever a new piece of equipment comes into the hospital my wife is there until late learning everything she can about it, same for when a new type of procedure etc. Then there are the medical conferences that doctors attend each year to learn new methods and stay up to date with cutting edge procedures.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This

Also, you can “know” everything about an equipment and technique but it’s completely different when you have to interpret the results and figure out how to treat the patient.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly this is the difference between a good doctor / surgeon and a bad one.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

That doesn’t address the level of schooling, that addresses timing of particular medical testing. For example, if the medical test provides results from 10 years ago, it won’t be very helpful. But a doctor who has been on the job 10 years, even accounting for selection bias (he hasn’t been removed for malpractice yet), is going to be better than one with 0 years experience.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m probably explaining it horribly. It has nothing to do with level of schooling, but how recently out of school. During schooling, I believe the idea is that students are being tested with old tests, where the results are already known.

ie, Student, does this one have cancer, nope, buzzer wrong, it does, it’s right here. Learning takes place there.

Doctor in the field, does this one have cancer? Nope, ok, go on home. 6 months later, cancer becomes more evident. No learning takes place.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, in the first example he’s only learning what’s known. But aside from that…

…I’m pretty sure that in the second example, if the doctor doesn’t learn what he did wrong, he isn’t going to learn from the first example either!

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Again bullshit. Doctors learn from mistakes and from experience,

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m talking about an actual study that was done, not theorizing

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

But lawyers aren’t publicly elected officials. If my lawyer doesn’t have my best interest at heart, I can get a new one.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not quite getting your point

also, you can also kick out congress people.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

You can. Tell me though, what do the numbers look like for incumbent candidates?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

But your congress person doesn't just work for you

they work for your community.

You may not think that he or she is doing a good job but the community as a whole may disagree with you.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Or they might just vote for the person who campaigns the most.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

they may

but again, you don’t get to unilaterally decide.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not wanting to unilaterally decide. I’m wanting to change it from a system that encourages people to make a livelihood out of campaigning to be re-elected so they can campaign to be re-elected

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

But that makes no sense because the people who are there the longest, probably have to the campaign the least.

It’s the newer legislators who have to campaign to keep their jobs.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Yet the older ones campaign just as much nonetheless.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I doubt it

No need to.

I don’t think Feinstein or Boxer is campaign much this year.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

ugh...I wish they could go away already

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

People just vote for who they’ve heard of. That’s why incumbents always win.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

And clearly our system is better for it because they know how to do all the stuff and have all the connections.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Our system is crappy

but it works as well as to be expected.

You try and get 10 people in a single room to decide on what toppings to put on a pizza.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It works in that there aren’t riots and civil war with each election but you can always improve, no?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure but it’s still a sausage making process no matter what.

Politics is nasty no matter where you go.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Every holiday we have to work we do it with 7 :)

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If your congressman isn’t ever going to leave office no matter how poorly he/she does, there are big problems at stake, yeah…

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

But these aren't people stepping right out of school.

They already have decades of real world experience before election.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention that many have been state senators/reps and/or governors.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

being a congress person is very very different than a regular job.

There is no “congress school”

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure there is

It’s called law school

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope

actually, law school school does not really teach you how to 1) practice law or 2) be a politician.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I could do this all day.

That’s what the Wicked Witch said after the first strawman she attacked, and look how that turned out.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

You can learn parliamentary procedure in a a short time. I hear this same gripe with the legislature here. They just want their jobs longer.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s not about procedure.

It’s about working with other legislators, how to proper write a bill, how to handle committee hearings, etc.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe they should learn how to properly write a bill before running for a job that requires them to properly write a bill.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s not as easy as it sounds.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone can be a lawyer. It’s just procedure and talking. Just look at all the successful pro se litigants.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Neither is learning how to run a blog, but plenty of people learn how to do that because they are passionate about wanting to do it.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope you’re not serious about this point.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

It was half serious. Yes, I realize it’s way different, but the half serious part was that I believe there are more than enough people who truly care about their communities, states, and country enough to put in the hard work without it having the promise of being a lucrative career. I would rather have those people in office.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

But

it does not work that way. You are not writing laws governing your area, you are writing laws that affects the entire country and with colleagues with different views/concerns/goals than you.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

What doesn’t work what way?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

who truly care about their communities, states, and country enough to put in the hard work

I think most legislators do it in order to change the country for the better.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, not JUST about procedure.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure how the US congress works but there is a department here that writes the bills. The Rep/Senator comes in with what they want and the work with someone who knows how to write bills. Not only that but many bills are written by lobbyist groups and given to the politician.

This may surprise you but most probably don’t ever write a bill themselves. As for the rest of what you have listed those things are super simple.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

And, for the record

All new legislators come to Washington and get training in the machinations of congress before their terms start, in the time between when they’re elected and when they’re sworn in. You don’t hear about it often, but it happens every term.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

That should be a documentary if it’s not one already.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's some info from a 2008 story.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97071765

It’s a very extensive and intensive few days of orientation on the things that they need to do to manage their offices well and to establish their offices, the nuts and bolts and basic things like computer systems and healthcare and, you know, member pay and benefits and how to organize your office, selecting staff. And then there are also the organizational meetings that they’ll have with their respective leadership teams.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Judges go to "judge school" too

but they spend many weeks or months on the bench before they get some of those under their belts.

Moral of the story: don’t commit a crime at the end of the year or the judge hearing your case may be totally green. Then again, that can work out in your favor, so never mind.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

No, they have perfect mastery of judge skills from the get go. There’s nothing left to learn.

And you can tell, because the court clerks always go to the judge for advice, as the court clerks haven’t built up any practical skills over time that involve actually managing court cases.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

This is interesting about something that’s borderline banal. Thanks for the link, GP.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

It’s not like they get elected then just get dropped off at the Congressional bus stop with their milk money in hand.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

No, they get their milk money from the lobbying folks

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

WELCOME TO WASHINGTON!!

HERE IS YOUR COMPLIMENTARY CAYMAN ISLANDS ACCOUNT AND 3 MILLION MAD MONEY!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

OH AND INTRODUCE THESE BILLS WHEN YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s obviously completely wrong. 1. THey don’t know where the bus stop is their first day, and 2. they don’t get milk money until year 4, after they’ve made milk connections.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have any particular objection to legislators making a career of it. Yes, they can become fat and lazy and corrupt and aloof. But the evidence indicates that when term limits are in place, legislators are no less venal and considerably more ignorant and inefficient. In general, I think you need a really ironclad reason to tell people they can’t vote for the person they want to vote for.

The problem with the Supreme Court, on the other hand, is that there’s no way to make them ever go away, with the corollary that presidents find themselves placing relative youth very high on the list of qualifications they’re looking for. Just rotate one of them out every two years.

by Evan on Feb 7, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps...

It wouldn’t take them so long to settle in if they weren’t spending 60% of their time each term campaigning.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That sounds like you want them to be in longer…

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I do. Longer terms with a single term limit.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

2 terms and then they have to be put to death when their term is over

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

We can turn them into congressional crackers and feed them to the birds

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

“Soylent green is congress”

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by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

that's your plan

for every profession.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Truth

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Not space physicists!

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The current group need a good culling

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Saw an interesting article this morning on the U.S. Constitution losing influence in the world

One reason is that it’s so hard to get changed and a lot of stuff that doesn’t make sense anymore (like the electoral college) is frozen forever.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually like the electoral college.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I think if it was the electoral university it would have greater standing globally.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

To a degree

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by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

but

too pretenious

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

With our deficit maybe we should just consider going to the electoral junior college for a couple years.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

or

just enroll in one of those online electoral colleges. I hear financial aid is available.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Why?

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It limits any voting issues to a state level. Gore v. Bush would have been more of a disaster had there not been an electoral college because it would have required every state to recount their votes to make sure they got it right.

It also gives more power to a single vote.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

No

Gore v. Bush wouldn’t have been an issue in the first place.

It gives disproportionate power to people in bumfuck states like Wyoming. And it makes some people’s votes irrelevant, like people in Austin, TX, or Orange County, CA.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Let’s not denigrate the states. They all have the potential to be great states (even the South, those successionist bastards).

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Easy mnemonic:

We’ll be successful in our secession next time.

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I only write, say or think about “secession” when the South comes up. It’s not a subject that enters my life very often. TWSS

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

THEY JUST WANT THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE TO BE IN LINE!

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course it would

the Popular vote difference was 0.5% or about 500,000 votes out of 100 million. you don’t think that requires a recount?

We do live in a democracy of majority rules.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

with

a strong states’ right slant.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Then why did the minority candidate "win"?

There is no reason in this day and age that we should not go to a popular vote system and make it electronic. Voting on Election Day is so fucking archaic. We would get more voter participation if we didn’t have to make it such an ordeal run by little old ladies.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d like to see a popular vote with runoffs until a winner is found.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

With actual running

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

It fixes the obesity problem too!

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

And weeds out all of the old farts

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Strangely enough, there are lots of people with no access to the internet.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Not sure what this has to do with elections but that should be remedied too.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably in response to the ‘electronic voting’ call.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

OIC

When I think of electronic voting I think of a machine rather than a punch card or filled out form. I wasn’t thinking internet although that would be nice.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome

Then Anonymous could pick our next president!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t suppose it would be any more hackable than the current system. Although I may welcome their decision over who gets picked year to year.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I would agree with the second half of the sentiment.

Why the heck is Election Day on a Tuesday?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Bumfuck states?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Heh...I thought this as well

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

How does it give more power to a single vote?

In fact, doesn’t it completely strip every ounce of power from any vote inconsistent with the majority within its region/state?

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

As opposed to striping every ounce of power from any vote inconsistent with the majority of the country?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Correct.

Because a national decision made by the majority of the country as a whole with every vote counted is the entire point of a democracy.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

But your individual vote would matters significantly less.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

How do you figure?

Regardless, in the end the result would actually, unfailingly, be the opinion of the majority of voters. I’m cool with not winning when the process is balanced and makes sense.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

because

your vote would be one in 100 million rather than one in whatever votes cast in your state.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Or it has become obsolete and ignored.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s not. The U.S. Constitution has always been more about the idea than the specifics.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Isn’t it the ruling law in the country? It seems pretty fucking specific to me.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

The Constitution is pretty darn vague

it’s the S.C. that establishes the law of the land.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

“No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.”

WHAT COULD THIS POSSIBLE MEAN?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, it is requires the Government to maintain a postal service and a standing army.

But it’s pretty darn vague with respect to 95% of the issues.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Example?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Bill of Rights.

example:

http://gallery.mobile9.com/f/155503/

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh ok. You weren’t being serious.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

No

I am. The Constitution is extremely vague…if it was specific, we wouldn’t have any need for the Supreme Court.

For example, when you talk about the Freedom of Religion…what does Freedom mean? How far does the freedom go? Can the state ever restrict religion? What is defined as a religion? What about the absence of religion?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

To me it is pretty explicit. You can have your own religion and not be put to death, jailed, etc… because of it. Yeah it doesn’t lay out the ins and outs of how to implement such a decree but that doesn’t make it vague IMO.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

But what about

things like school prayers? Use of drugs for religious purposes? Right to wear religious garb in your employment?

The fact that the Constitution is open for interpretation is both it’s biggest strength and biggest weakness.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Well yeah it is a framework but I don’t think it is vague in that one can’t tell what they meant by what is written.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

200+ of constitution law would disagree with you.

It took the country a long time and a civil war to decide that a “person” goes beyond a rich white male landowner.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably because people writing it wouldn’t go far enough to include minorities and women. I read something about how some wanted them explicitly included but many feared that it wouldn’t bode well with those that owned land and slaves.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that would be the difference in theory and practice!

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

It's only "centralist"

because the Republican nominees have been so conservative.

Sotomeyer and Kagan are both fairly liberal, especially on social issues.

I would love to see an Asian, Goodwin Liu for example, be on the S.C.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

If Republican nominees have been so conservative, that would make his appointees seem more liberal by comparison, not centralist.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

What I meant

is that people expect him to elect liberal nominees of equal degree.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

but you cannot ignore their views on the issues. I mean, all the nominees are well qualified….well except for Harriet Miers

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

What is best though?

What is best is what is fair and right I guess, and you determine what is fair and right by whether your opinion leans to the left or the right.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you’re right. I just happen to disagree with people who make decisions this way. Well, more specifically, the liberal-conservative obsession with the courts. The law can be liberal and conservative. Putting up people who make judgments heeding that rather than what the people who stuff money in their pockets want should be the transparent goal.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Or do you determine what's fair and right

by considering the leanings of each SC member and attempting to create balance.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 7, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Need to see the opinion

See what the 9th circuit’s reasoning.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

AP
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

They shouldn't

not a good case to bring to the SC.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

where does it go from here?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

probably

U.S. Supreme Court.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

i'm still a bit confused on the issue

Prop 8 is unconstitutional, so what does that mean exactly, same-sex marriage is legal?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

SovernNation Doug Sovern
Court leaves stay in place, pending further appeal, so same sex marriages do not resume in California. # prop8

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Prop 8 defines a marriage between a man and a woman.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

But that doesn’t mean that gay marriage is legal TODAY

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

right, ok, it just opens a door that was once shut because of prop 8

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually, the California Supreme Court previous ruled that gay marriages are legal. Proposition 8 sought to block that decision as an amendment to the California Constitution.

So, prop 8 is the only thing that was preventing gay couples to marry. A number of people got married before prop 8 was passed and those marriages are legal no matter what happens. This just has to do with future marriages.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, i remember that, that was 2008. So we can expect something in the near future about gay marriages being legal? This was just a road block?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

If the prop 8 is deemed unconstitutional

then gay marriage will become legal again.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

it was just another hurdle they had to leap over

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Basically

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

awesome, thanks for the help

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

YAAAAAAAAY.

Maybe we can finally get to the point where no one cares about what adults do together sexually. Because I really want to stop giving a shit so people can be treated well

by Cap M on Feb 7, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Good luck with that.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know.

I’m just looking forward to being as apathetic about gay people being gay (you know, not the people I know themselves) as I am about everything else that shouldn’t matter at this point. CURSE THE BUBBLE I GREW UP IN.

by Cap M on Feb 7, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

We will have a majority someday

But eliminating the fear of gay people will possibly never go away totally.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Champagne room?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Not enough pics

about sex.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

SUBJECT LINE SUBJECT LINE

Watch out, they’ll water-bend you till you’re black and blue.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

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TELEMETRY!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

this

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I'M GONNA FLAG FOR BEING OFFENSIVE

WE HAVE FONTENOT AND THERIOT ON THE TEAM NOW

by Cap M on Feb 7, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh crap, I accidentally deleted the subject line.

/awaits gunt

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Natto’d

/allows it

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Would it really be so hard to allow users to delete or edit their posts?
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but then

who would pay for SBN platinum?

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But then the ones I post when I’m drunk aren’t there forever and ever.

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

NOT ME

I don’t mind it at all.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

There probably is some kind of technical limitation that stops them from it, yeah.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

This is a lawrge image.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Poor dial-upers

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I honestly feel really bad.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

280 KPH!

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

YET AGAIN ANOTHER STEP TOWARD EUROPE

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, how did you find that second picture? Did you google “orgasmic champagne?”

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Do not GIS that, fat naked asian guy wearing a bra.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

This is great! Prop 8 was an abomination.

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From his facebook page
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The court has rendered a powerful affirmation of the right of same-sex couples to marry. I applaud the wisdom and courage of this decision.

A bit more champagne-roomish, but I thought it was cool.

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GO MOONBEAM!!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t need it said in such colorful language. Laws take away rights and some of those laws are, therefore, totally bullshit.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

such colorful language

Dude’s name is Brown. Whaddayagonnado?

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What if Jerry Brown was Gary Brown?

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

They would both be white

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He’d look even older for his age?

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by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Brief summary of the 128 page opinion

2 to 1 to uphold.

Majority: State has no reason to define a marriage to be between a man and woman.

Dissenting: Slippery slope and state can dictate morality.

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Dissenting: Slippery slope and state can dictate morality.

Morons.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

This will be the new Corporations Are People.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

but what if someone wants to marry his/her llama?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

He/she has that right. However, the llama does not have the right to get married as it isn’t a person, so therefore the marriage cannot take place.

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Does he/she have the right to marry a Corporation?
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by drdata24 on Feb 7, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we need to go all the way with this corporation business. They should be vulnerable to the death penalty, parking tickets, divorce courts, child support, etc. If they are people, make them people. Don’t half ass it.

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The immortality thing is going to be hard to replicate in humans.

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Yeah, but they have to watch all their friends and loved ones die while they stay the same. It’ll be sad.

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I think they should be required to appear in person.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

And prison.

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So now they’ll change the constitution?

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No

it would just strike down Prop 8 and the language it was going to add to the California Constitution.

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So the proposition was a constitutional amendment?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

yup

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Just ask Clayton Kershaw. He'll agree.
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DAMN STRAIGHT! WE ARE GIANT! FEAR US

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#AngelPagan calls #SFGiants ‘team to beat’ in #NLWest. cmcst.sn/aaaFIq #MLB

This kind of crap plays well in the northeast market. I remember when Rollins said this and the NY papers went batshit over it. Pagan is probably going to wonder where the faux outrage is hiding.

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I think he means we are the easiest team to beat.

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The ‘punching bag of the west’

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought the Giants prefer to stay under the radar? The D-Back players are going to read this and what to shove it down Pagan’s throat.

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WOW
Peter_R_Casey Peter Robert Casey
Jeremy Lin added 9,993 Twitter followers yesterday.

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...

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lol Vegeta /childhood memories

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shit now I’m thinking of Captain Tsubasa and all the other cartoons they showed on TV in Europe

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ICWYDT

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BREAKING (OUR HEARTS) NEWS ?
Uh oh. This week brings us good news for Noe Valley home buyers, but potentially bad news for Bay Area sports fans.

On Friday, Socketsite reported on a steal of a deal in Noe Valley — the sale of a completely remodeled four-bedroom midcentury home for $1,795,000 — that’s $255,000 less than its sale price in 2008. The owner of the home: Giants ace pitcher Matt Cain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/06/matt-cain-san-francisco-home_n_1258281.html?ref=san-francisco

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CAIN TRADED!?!?!?!?!

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Cain purchased the home in 2008 for $2,050,000, and first listed it for sale in September at $1,950,000. Once month later, the price dropped dramatically due to “motivated sellers.” The property was pulled from the market in December, but was listed again on Friday for $1,795,000.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

It could mean the extension is agreed upon and he's moving to a bigger place

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by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I assume the negative ppl are thinking he's bolting

But he is a year away from free agency. Clearly he doesn’t know where he is going to be assuming he tests the FA market. Why sell your house now and pull your kid out of school…etc?

Makes no sense to read this as a “I’m outta here” move.

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by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

My co-worker was out looking at/applying to preschools for his 18 month old last week.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I seriously doubt the Cains would have trouble getting Hartley into a good preschool.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I was implying there is no longer a ‘too young for school’.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

True

but still.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha! I think you have been spending too much time arguing with GP… You are starting to pick up his habits!
Later, I will try to think of another mildly tongue-in-cheek statement for you to parse.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm just bored.

But I will watch the GP-ing tendency. I would not want to go there. Thanks for the feedback.

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by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Mostly I’m just hassling-by-proxy.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, the statement was

and pull your kid out of school

Matt’s kid, in this sense, is too young for school.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

THE JOKE WAS THAT KIDS NOWADAYS GO DIRECTLY INTO SCHOOL AFTER EXITING THE WOMB.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

They use a chute that goes directly from vagina to a window in the classroom.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

What about for women who have a C-Section?

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

They have to use the somewhat less reliable slingshot method.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know, the Womb has a lot of teachers per student, and nice PE facilities.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow that is too young

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m thinking it’s probably daycare.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope. Already in daycare, getting ready to graduate.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

That is pretty crazy. No way I’m putting my little guy in preschool yet.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see any advantage of putting an 18 month in preschool.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

If you showed your little guy in preschool, you’d probably be arrested.

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard that Goofus put a shoe on the end of his and people thought it was a third leg.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s true. I thought he was in a wheelbarrow contest.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

At the Q&A session at fanfest, Cain said he plans to stay with SF after next year. He doesn’t want to leave.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Cain at fanfest: ‘Yes, I definitely plan to buy in another city next year’
Crowd at fanfest: /weeping, rending of garments, gnashing of teeth

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Cain: I would like to stay in SF.
Crowd: This is terrible news!

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Cain: I like the wave
Crowd: BOOOOO
Cain: Nevermind, I take it back.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

This really happened, btw. It was funny.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

NO MEANS YES

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by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

To Orinda with Buster

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Is Buster in your neck of the woods?

Maybe Cain wants to live next to Kuiper in my neighborhood!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder why someone who thought living in Noe Valley was a good idea as of a few years ago would move to somewhere as isolated and far-flung as Danville?

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

He was young

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Now he has a babby

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 7, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

bingo

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, i think he's in Orinda

would make sense since he’s got his kids. San Ramon/Danville? Definitely would make sense for Cain

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

You should introduce him to your mom!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

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by Murray, Present on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s not a bad guess. With the kid now, maybe they were motivated to move to a less urban area.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I just looked it up. He has one home in Orinda, California and one in Scottsdale, Arizona.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

He may have decided to move to Arizona.

Lots of ballplayers live out there.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I could swear that I read an article right after last season that said he moved there. Pablo did as well.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

he met his wive in spring training iirc

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by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Which makes sense. If you’re never at home during the summer, why not live in the desert. Haha wife and kids, suffer in the heat!

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 7, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOO!

Home prices are still going down?

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was cool that Cain actually bought a house and lived in Noe Valley.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Same here.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

No one tell my grandmother. I was using Cain as my chief example that not everyone in San Francisco is an infidel.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I just advised all the students taking the State Exit Exam . . . .

to lie in the section that asks for their “ethnicity.” I know that I always do.

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by gallo del cielo on Feb 7, 2012 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

Plutonian

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Three sexes, huh.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Uncle Evan,

Tell us about the plutonian birds and the bees and the ?
So when a man and a women and ? love each other very much

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by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Upon reflection perhaps

A combination of a cheerleader and sentient, responsive chair/bed

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by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

The three sexes are:

1. Carmen Miranda
2. Rod Taylor in The Birds
3. A really big stalagmite

by Evan on Feb 7, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Men
Women
Pat Burrell

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by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Lefty
Righty
Wellemeyer

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm old-fashioned

but I see a difference between a really big stalagmite and a combination of a cheerleader and sentient, responsive chair/bed

Color me prude

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by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

HA

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Jalapeno

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by Murray, Present on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I always answer ‘Jedi, unreformed’ for religious denomination.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

The latest Czech census had about 10% Jedi!!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no truck with the Midichlorian Heresy

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh, reply fail.

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by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: YAY, off to Lafayette and Berkeley for the day for some golf for the first time in a year

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

Elitist.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

But is he smug about it?

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, it better be a private golf course. Members only!

/Goofus joke

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Soggy golf

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ssharmon Steven Harmon
wow. big news across the MediaNews transom: #SFGiants beat man @extrabaggs aka A. Baggarly is leaving Merc for Comcast SportsNet Bay Area.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

OH SHOOT!

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoa

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Wooooooooooah.

I don’t like it.

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Why?

It means years and years more of Baggs. I’m sure they signed him to a long-term deal.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

TOO EXPENSIVE TOO RISKY!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Hank isn’t much of a hitter, but just look at his defense and interviewing.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

What is his RAR?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he'll still write.

It’s not like Maiocco went away. But he’ll get to do more opinion instead of game stories. That’s a win.

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 7, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, it might be a win

I’ve always thought Baggs’s baseball opinions were… a mixed bag, no pun intended, to say it lightly.

He’s certainly a top-notch reporter, but I haven’t forgotten that I’m just supposed to enjoy the game.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

He's a locker-room presence who doesn't ignore the new school.

Need more of those in baseball. He might not calculate FIP in his head, but he usually offers opinions worth listening to or reading.

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

He's also misunderstood the new school at times

Like that article about the Sanchez trade where he said:

The statistical set love his FIP. But ask his fielders if they’re impressed with his FIP while they’re standing around as he walks hitters on a cold night.

Which, one, isn’t true, and two, is a silly and condescending thing to say anyway.

Don’t get me wrong, Baggs is the best of the access’d writers out there. But if this move means more opinion and less reporting from Baggs, I’d be unhappy.

by GiantPain on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Given the nature of cable news and sports journalism (especially on TV), I’d say we’re going to get way more opinion from Baggs.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Could you work on just letting me enjoy the game next?

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m with you. I think he’s a great reporter, but I’m not sure that I’m always a fan of his commentary.

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

But he’ll get to do more opinion instead of game stories. That’s a win.

Heh

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn't mean it like that, rabble-rouser.

Just that I rarely read the game stories from anyone — Schulman, Baggarly, Haft. Not because I’m too cool, but because I watched the game.

Alright, partially because I’m too cool.

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Schulman’s going to go Bon Iver on you for this.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I am going to put my tinfoil hat on

And suggest that the CSN tie into ownership makes this a “payment for services rendered” type of deal.

There, I said it.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Transformation into a bleating talking head is now complete.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Newspaper is a dying breed

like polaroid

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by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Urbs is probably saying, "Hey! That was MY old job!"

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

As Bobcat use to say “I didn’t lose my job, it’s just when I go there somebody else is doing it.”

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by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite Bobcat line:

“If it tastes just like chicken, why don’t you just give me so gd chicken!”

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

His followup was “I lost my girlfriend…
Well, I didn’t lose my girlfriend, but when I go there somebody else is doing her.”

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by Lunkus on Feb 7, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Baggs : "You sucked. That's why they have me now"

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is urban going to be our new beat writer?

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by operation carrot on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

BAGGSCHAINED.COM

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by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

shit

does this mean I have to read Shulman? Hey, Grant, there’s a job opening at the Merc!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

For those who don't know:
Variety Dec. 10, 2007
Comcast and Fox Sports, co-owners of Fox Sports Net Bay Area, have made sure the San Francisco Giants won’t bolt the network by selling the team a 30% stake in the channel.

In exchange, the Giants have signed a 25-year contract to funnel up to 135 games a year exclusively to FSN Bay Area. The Giants’ 30% stake will come equally from Comcast’s holding, which goes from 60% to 45%, and Fox Sports’ stake, which drops to 25% from the previous 40%. Comcast will continue to operate the net, which will receive a name change (favoring Comcast) before the new baseball season starts.
21 April, 2011
In a move following the acquisition of a controlling stake in NBCUniversal by Comcast, the NBC O&O in San Francisco, KNTV, is outsourcing its local sports coverage to Comcast SportsNet Bay Area.

Beginning in June, Comcast SportsNet, now part of the NBC Sports Group, will provide live daily sports news segments for NBC Bay Area (KNTV) that will be seamlessly included in the station’s 6:00 pm and 11:00 pm newscasts.

To produce this added content, NBC Bay Area and Comcast SportsNet are constructing a new set in Comcast SportsNet’s 37,000 square-foot HD studios in downtown San Francisco. The sports news content provided by Comcast SportsNet will reflect the look and feel of NBC Bay Area’s newscast and incorporate Comcast SportsNet brand elements in a complementary manner.

Comcast SportsNet’s 140-person local staff annually produces more than 500 live sports events

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

/tinfoil hat

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Phat cash would be cray-z.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Typical Giants:

Getting a deal done fast before the market develops.

by Every6thDay on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Is this where the “peeps” get “off” the “heezy”?

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, and it is da bomb.

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

/bounces outstretched hand in air in rhythmic motion as to indicate that I am down with this

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Cast it off as if it were overly warm to the touch.

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by Natto on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

The Giants get all the benefits of the Rangers and more. It’s just that they aren’t being paid for rights to broadcast their games. They actually own the programmer and they themselves sell the rights to the cable distributors. The Giants owners receive dividends from their Comcast ownership stake. With ratings of Giants games and prices of MLB license fees at an all time high, business is good.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it is a pretty sweet deal

Without all of the “LOOK WE JUST SOLD OUR BROADCASTING RIGHTS FOR 3 BILLION DOLLARS” type of publicity.

The RDF is already flush. Which makes all of this crying poor kind of stupid.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

...UCK

My sentiments exactly.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I hadn’t realized it had been eight years since he last won the Super Bowl. How time flies. Too bad, Thomas.

by non sequitur on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I got chopped like a mofo.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

I sense a new thread starting soon too

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Good. I’m ready for a long explication of Frank McGee’s tenure as Today host (1971-1974).

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, I feel like I learn more about everything here than I do in school nowadays.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

over the ear headphones> in ear headphones

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by operation carrot on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Cartman?!

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.

by 1ManWolfPack on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh. You’re right.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

IT’S FUNNY CUZ HE"S FAT!

/Pablo’d

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Icky

What is that on the seat in front?

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

a person he accidently sat on

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by operation carrot on Feb 7, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL! Cartman!

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Is this the guy who ate all of those pizza rolls on Youtube?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

So who is running the fantasy leagues this year?

can i request an auction style draft league?

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by operation carrot on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

i never done one.

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by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

theyre a lot of fun

but really hard
you want to blow your load in the begining
and then you dont have any money at all in the later rounds
you have to be really particular
this one draft i was in this guy spent all his money on pujols and hanley ramirez and thought he was the hot shit
but the rest of his team was scrubs because he had no more money

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by operation carrot on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Lunch OT:

Pavilions/Vons sandwich

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

Chex Mix and a bottle of water

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

That seems pretty common for you

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to eat light during the day

Else I get sleepy.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Napa Chicken with Avocado Wrap

Not sure what Napa Chicken is but whatever, i like avocado.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

organic bacon salad

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by operation carrot on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Leftover chicken pot pie.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I made some salade niçoise

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Hot Link Sandwich with grilled onion and bell pepper

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

My stomach is in awe of your stomach

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

It was very good

Now I am moving onto the banana in the lunch bag

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Who packs your lunch?

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by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Waitress

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Scmohog unpacks it.

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by Natto on Feb 7, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

my wife goes to work at 7AM

she wakes up at 6 to make lunch for herself and my daughter. Usually she packs something for me too. Unless it is straight up leftovers from last night, then I usually get lunch outside.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

What do you wash it all down with?

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a cup of coffee in the morning and 2 cups of tea in the afternoon

Usually diet coke in between.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

no hot tea. I have three cans at work. Green, Oolong, and black.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

...

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, those look like they would make excellent Iced Teas though

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice! My wife never cooks unless we are having Japanese or Korean (hooray for Korean flatmate at Cal) food at home. /saved by amazing cafeteria at work

Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!

by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

we enjoy cooking because we can control the amount of salt and oil

also, no MSG

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you cook together?

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

no she cooks most of the time

I do the steak / jambalaya / baking type stuff. Basically she uses the wok and skillet, and I use the grill and oven.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, that’s nice that you cook as well.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

well I don’t cook as much as she does. She gets off work at 3:30, I don’t get him till 7 :x

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Our arrangement works out well. I cook French / Italian stuff, she cooks jp / kr stuff. Authentic or bullshit Chinese food?

Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!

by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

and by bullshit I mean Americanized

Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!

by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

From scratch.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Very nice!

Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!

by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Our arrangement is that I cook, and my husband eats.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

At first I was surprised by how many men on this site cook / bake. I think it is probably a higher percentage then the general pop. — I like to cook, I just don’t follow the ingredients / directions very well.

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Meat Lasagna

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Printing…
Six Large Servings: That’s about right for me!

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

www.cookingforengineers.com

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to say, it looked a little schematic like

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve gotten a couple of recipes from there. I don’t usually follow recipes exactly either, I tweak it to my liking.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really follow directions. I just cook stuff the way my mom showed me how. a pinch of this a dash of that stir for a bit etc

Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!

by calgiants86 on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Our arrangement is that I cook, and my husband eats.

Lulz….PAYMENT FOR SERVICES RENDERED!!

(yeah, my mind is perpetually in the gutter)

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t expect payment all the time.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a chicken salad sandwich and chips. A nice, bland lunch befitting the eater.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Pad Thai

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by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

/grumble grumble

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by speckops on Feb 7, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Cafeteria Orange Chicken

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.

by 1ManWolfPack on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

No such thing as an orange chicken

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Tell that to the public school system.

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.

by 1ManWolfPack on Feb 7, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Some Buff Orpingtons are pretty orange.

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Leftover chicken kiev I made last night.

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know what I want to eat for lunch.

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by Natto on Feb 7, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t blame you after the Muni ride.

by Turf_Toe_ on Feb 7, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

OK I’ll have a burrito.

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by Natto on Feb 7, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

JAMEY WRIGHT TO THE DODGERS

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

rockies counter

by signing tomko

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by operation carrot on Feb 7, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

WE HAVE A SITUATION

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

BUT DID YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE GAUGE WAS READING BEFORE YOU DID?

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, I want to have a movie night with you.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be pretty awesome.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Watch out for Lars. He’s good a the stretch/yawn/arm around you move.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 7, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha

As if I was ever that subtle.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

/shoves hand into pants

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by Natto on Feb 7, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

/knocks box of coffee table

Whoops! Is that a condom?!?!?

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by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa! Somehow I’ve misplaced my clothes!

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by Natto on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

All I can find are these handcuffs!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

…and we have ignition.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Cox replaced all my normal channels with P0rn.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

/Scribbles Notes

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad news, everyone.

Mom says I can’t buy Matt Cain’s house.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

What mom doesn’t won’t hurt her

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

THATS WHAT SHE SAID

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Lets all pool money like we did with the brick. Imagine if McCovey Chronicles had its own crash pad.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I COULD FINALLY MEET VIC!!!!

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by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just thinking that it would be an ideal place to hold the MCC Awards next fall.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I got $100 on it

We just need 17,000 more donations

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 7, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you say pretty please and give her a pouty look?

by City Girl on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you always listen to your mother?

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Feb 7, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Always.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s ok, it turns out that the house does not come with Matt Cain.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

BUT MATT CAIN DOES COME IN THE HOUSE

UNPACK THAT SHIT

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

How is Hartley Mae formed?

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I can just see the real estate advert now: “And Matt Cain had an orgasm right in this very room!”

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going go over the place with a blacklight so I can flag areas that need historical markers.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I just got about 50 replies as an update right now

SBN is acting strange.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 7, 2012 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

BUT WHAT IF I CAME HERE FOR CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS?!

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Feb 7, 2012 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

YOU WILLTAKE ALFRED E. NEUMANN AND YOU WILL LIKE HIM!

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

JOHN JAY FTW!!!!

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, given your recent history, you would be obstinately and rudely argued to death.

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m bracing myself for the Rehnquist boosters as we speak.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Feb 7, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

HE JUST GOT UNLUCKY!

by Hyoton on Feb 7, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU’RE JUST FOCUSING ON THE STRIPES ON HIS ROBES

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Feb 7, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Andrew Jackson mocks your Cheif Justice Roberts.

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.

by 1ManWolfPack on Feb 7, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

And your Second Bank of the United States.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 7, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

and the Constitution

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking through some old photos

How come I get progressively fatter over the years but my wife manages to stay the same size?

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 7, 2012 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

She picked skinnier parents, maybe. Clever woman.

by wcw on Feb 7, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe because she tries to stay thin?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 7, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Gives it all to you.

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by Natto on Feb 7, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

#justfoundoutimthegarbagedisposer

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 7, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Roids.

It’s obvious. Anyone who’s face gets a bit fuller over the years is definitely on the Roids.

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by Cody_ransom on Feb 8, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Abandon Thread

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2012/2/7/2782873/around-the-division-the-offseason-of-the-colorado-rockies

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Feb 7, 2012 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

I will go down with this thread...

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.

by 1ManWolfPack on Feb 7, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

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