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Community Projection: Clay Hensley

Well, no, not really. Let's not go too nuts with the projections.

But consider this an open thread about that last spot in the bullpen. Maybe I'm reading too much into offhand comments, but it feels like there isn't much of a contest for the last couple of spots in the bullpen. Most of the articles or comments that I've heard/read peg Guillermo Mota as a lock, which I understand. Most of the same articles peg Clay Hensley as a lock, which I only partially understand.

It's not that I'm an ardent anti-Henslite -- we're talking about the sixth or seventh man in the bullpen, so it's hard to get too worked up about anyone -- but he certainly should have to pitch his way onto the team. He had a fantastic year in 2010 (2.16 ERA, 9.2 K/9, three HR allowed in 75 innings), but it was a year that was wildly out of place with the rest of his career.

The early reports were that Hensley signed a major-league contract, but Henry Schulman later twote that the contact was non-guaranteed. Hensley could make just over $1 million if he reaches his incentives -- Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, stuff like that -- which means that if it's a coin flip between him and a minor leaguer, there are a half-million reasons to lean towards the younger pitcher.

If I had to go with a favorite candidate based on statz? Almost certainly Dan Otero:

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Year ERA IP HR BB SO HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
5 Seasons 1.90 213.1 8 30 189 0.3 1.3 8.0 6.30
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 2/29/2012.


In five seasons, he's walked 30 batters. That's fewer than Jonathan Sanchez walked in his last eight starts with the Giants. But I'll hazard a guess that Otero throws 73 m.p.h., as that would be the only reason it would make sense for him not to be a non-roster invitee. Name the last time a right-handed reliever came out of the minors with gaudy stats to be successful with a fastball that scouts didn't care for.

Well, yeah. Romo. But you probably had to look that up.

edit: Otero isn't an NRI because he's already on the 40-man roster. I'm a genius. In that case, he's the official McC Bullpen Dark Horse of 2012.

Heath Hembree has a shot to make the roster, as he's wowing people in camp with his fastball and slider. That is, the velocity and break of said pitches. His control is a work in progress. He just walked Jose Guillen, for example. There's a strong chance that he'll start in Fresno.

Dan Runzler is hoping for good things, but he hit Jose Guillen as he was walking to first. He's also the subject of the best quote of the spring to this point:

He had trouble going through lineups, seeing hitters second time around, and blah blah blah. So we’ve tried to smooth him out. He’s leading with his front arm, which is a big key."

I'm so proud that Righetti is a blah blah blah man instead of an "et cetera" or "yadda yadda yadda" guy.

Beyond that, there isn't a large group of realistic applicants mixed in with the NRIs. There are pitchers without a long minor-league track record (Mitch Lively, Stephen Harrold, Austin Fleet, Seth Rosin), wily minor-league vets (Ramon Ortiz, Shane Loux, Jean Machi), and I-remember-those-guys (Travis Blackley, Brian Burres).

So it's either Runzler, Hembree, or Hensley.

It's probably Hensley.

Once Belt is optioned, this is going to be a really boring spring for roster battles.

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Hensley is the backup Zito mopper upper

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Hensley is the one

getting interviews on KNBR and CSNBA. It will be him unless he blows up.

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to say this at the end but since Lars . . .

says it first, I have to agree. I actually imagine Hensley taking over for Zito in the rotation if Barry can’t be respectable in his first 3-4 starts. Or later if/when Barry struggles. Hembree needs more seasoning and is clearly Closer material. I once thought Runzler could start but now I just want him to find the plate. I hope he’ll some day make a fine setup man. So Hensley gives us flexibility and experience. we may very well need it.

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by wcovington on Feb 29, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

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Bumgarner will throw the second day, Cain will start third day. Bochy said he’s considering moving Bumgarner between Lincecum and Cain

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Gotta do it to keep Cain in the third slot of the rotation, where he belongs.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

AT BEST

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Have to keep his value down any way we can!

by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yay

we get to see Matt on tv on Monday!

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

geeeeeez I hope I’m home by then. When is first pitch?

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

635 pm? is that right? seems late. I hope that’s correct.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

this makes perfect sense…

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by Ohdecker on Feb 29, 2012 12:25 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Cain is a third starter at best

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Hensley is going to get the spot.

I have no idea what the Giants are doing with Runzler.

I really hope Hembree will be our closer in 2 season.

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by djfivenine on Feb 29, 2012 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

I can’t make myself watch American Idol anymore. JLo is lame, the old woman rock star guy is lame, and Randy is lame. I have no interest.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I will only watch American Idol if JLo shows her nipple.

by capn on Feb 29, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Steven Tyler? He showed it last night, right before I changed the channel.

by City Girl on Feb 29, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Poor Randy, he gets no respect. Probably because he is boring.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

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Bumgarner will start Sun. and Cain Mon. Bochy said Bumgarner could open as No.2 starter to split up lefties in case Vogelsong can’t go.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t have any problem with Bumgarner as #2 starter. Dude’s pretty good.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And by pretty good, I mean better than any pitcher to come up with the Giants in the 40 years after Gaylord Perry.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I am fine with it.

And even though we rag on Bochy for it, it’s not outlandish to do the R-L-R thing. Plus it splits up our inning eating pitchers in case of Madbum explosion 1st inning!

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

And I use Madbum explosion 1st inning for any generic short start where the bullpen is needed early.

Other accepted terms are “Routine Zito Start”

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Hearing about Zito’s tweaks in camp makes me want to believe against my better judgment that he’ll be better. But I think I’ve been disappointed one too many times at this point.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

well, all that canyon throwing really paid divid…..oh, wait…

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently it was to easy for Tim and Cain to pitch so they switched. Princess Bride sword fighting style.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 29, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I like how it’s implied that Vogelsong would be the obvious #2 starter because he is better than Bumgarner. However, lucky Bumbarner gets his chance if Vogey isn’t ready to go.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Or it could just be that they like Bumgarner lower in the order because he can throw a lot of innings and keep the ’pen rested ahead of Zito.

Or it could be that the Giants want to keep Bumgarner’s inning count down without actively limiting his innings.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Or it could be that Vogey is older.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Except it isn't.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Solid Argument. You win.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see much that really substantiates this particular blanket generalization about Bochy in this instance.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Or stated another way,

Implied and perceived are not the same thing. You may perceive it that way, but neither of your assertions are really implied.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Bochy says if Vogey isn’t ready to go then Madbum will take his place. That tells me for some reason Vogey is ahead of Madbum in some category that is buried in that large head of Bochy’s. It isn’t a stretch to guess what that is.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure you’re misreading it.

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by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You are making a logical leap that the #2 starting position is an either/or proposition. That is in no way apparent by Bochy’s comments, and is probably false. Ryan Vogelsong can’t “split up righties,” another well-treaded trope of Bochy’s that is actually explicitly mentioned in the comments.

I apologize for crass with my comments above, but you’re really stating that something is “obvious” based on two degrees of speculation. Which wouldn’t be obvious at all.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

How am I suppose to read “Bumgarner could open as No.2 starter to split up lefties in case Vogelsong can’t go” Am I assuming too much if Vogelsong is healthy? What is Bochy saying would be the case if Vogey is healthy? Seriously. If I’m misreading this, please shine some light on it.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe you are assuming too much, yes, with my explanation below.

I do not believe we can gather from the tweet alone what the planned rotation is with a healthy Vogelsong. If we find a complete version of the comment somewhere, it might be more illuminating, but as is I think it is merely a comment on Vogelsong’s presence or absence affecting the rotation, at least initially.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Again, sorry for being crass. Wasn’t called for on my part.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I deserved it. I’ve been going off on the Giants FO way more than I should, even when it doesn’t make sense. I need baseball to start.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we all need baseball to start.

People are starved for things to criticize, hahaha.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Data would also help resolve some of the things that we’ve bashed in our heads over, such as Crawford’s hitting abilities.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Feed the beast.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what my county uses as its recycling slogan.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome.

I am now picturing a recycling truck with a gap maw full of sharp, pointy teeth.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Wha?

I think the implication is that the preferred order would be Bum – Vogey – Zito in the 3-5 spots. If Vogey isn’t ready that would mean Bum – Zito – #6 starter and they might move Bum up so he’s not back to back with Zito.

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by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. If it’s lined up Lincecum-Cain-Bumgarner-Zito-whoever, you will have 3 lefties or 3 righties all in a row, which Bochy generally doesn’t allow.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The implication is that if they want a righty in between Tim and Cain that it would obviously be Vogey. My question is why is it obviously Vogey? Only if Vogey isn’t ready to go will Madbum be 2nd? He says it like it goes without saying that a healthy Vogey is the choice.

I don’t put too much into starting pitcher rotation and wouldn’t care. I do care if Bochy thinks Vogey is a better RHP than madbum.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You keep using that word.

I don’t think it means what you think it means.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Vogey is a better RHP than MadBum.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

So is Clay Hensley!

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by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry. I said that wrong.

I meant a lefty in between. The tweet says that if Vogey isn’t ready to go to start the season then the planed rotation of Tim/Vogey/Cain/Madbum will be replaced with Tim/Madbum/Cain/etc to break up the righties. Sorry I confused things.

So my point is why is a healthy Vogey, a righty, assumed to be the default and only if Vogey isn’t ready to go will they use Madbum to split it up? Why is Tim/Vogey/Cain the better option to start the season? That makes no sense to me unless Bochy thinks a healthy righty Vogey is better than Madbum even if it means 3 righties in a row.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's the thing

If Vogey is ready to go then he splits up the lefties by going #4. Tim/Cain/Bum/Vogey/Zito.

If he’s not ready to go then Bum might move up to #2 so you have Tim/Bum/Cain/Zito/#6 starter. That way you avoid having the 2 lefties back to back. (You could also avoid it by slotting the #6 starter between Bum and Zito, but that means it’s Zito and not #6 who’s in line to skip starts.)

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by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I get it now

I feel stupid. Thanks for clearing that up. I was fixated on splinting up Tim/Cain and didn’t consider splitting up lefties.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, Vogey is also RH and Bumgarner is LH. Tim/Vogey/Cain would be RRR, which is no bueno with Bochy.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. I said that above. Which made the Bochy comment even more condemning of Madbum if you followed my flawed logic. I was wrong though.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

No, but seriously.

the planed rotation of Tim/Vogey/Cain/Madbum

Nowhere in the tweet does it say that.

“If Vogelsong can’t go” is the key statement. Nowhere does it say where he would go, and it is not implicit from the statement that Bumgarner would go in his place. Merely that Vogelsong’s absence would affect the planned rotation order.

That is the only thing that can be safely established from the statement.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, meant for the first line to be in blockquote.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Runzler stays in Fresno

simply because they have Lopez and Affeldt. Lefty bullpen quota is filled!

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder whether “trade Affeldt” was the plan all along but it turns out that no one’s interested in him.

by Evan on Feb 29, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

/Runzler walks Pill

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Otero’s numbers are very interesting.

This old quote from 2008 is kind of scary, though:

“He probably doesn’t have an above-average pitch,” Rice said. "But he keeps the ball down in the zone and he’s very aggressive. He has a big heart, though, and that’s the first thing you need to be a closer. He’s got pretty decent stuff. It’s just not ‘wow’ stuff. He could be a setup man in the big leagues or maybe even a starter.

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by xanthan on Feb 29, 2012 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

He has a big heart, though, and that’s the first thing you need to be a closer

A horrible medical condition, lets start there.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

“So what if he doesn’t have bones in his arm, that’s the first thing you need to be a closer.”

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by xanthan on Feb 29, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Who said this?

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s actually a horse, thus the gigantic heart. Also his propensity to eat the infield grass.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

He has a big heart, though, and that’s the first thing you need to be a closer.

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by GiantPain on Feb 29, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

SILENCE, ROBOT

IT DOESN’T MATTER IF HE LOST HIS ARMS IN A HORRIBLE FROZEN MEAT ACCIDENT! HE HAS A BIG HEART AND HE IS GOING TO LOCK DOWN THE 9TH INNING!

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, you do need a heart. I think it would be tied though with brain, arm, legs, and lungs.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t understand how anyone can think these things.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the prime requirement for a closer in your book?

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Being good at baseball.

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by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

And weird facial hair.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

In my book, there would be no such thing as a closer

Assuming that I were forced to have one, the requirements would be the same as for other relief pitchers.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d add that he can get both righties and lefties out.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Not being good enough to start?

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, obviously, if a pitcher can start, he ought to.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously though, a set of brass balls is the main requirement above and beyond whatever talent level of pitching is there.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

That would make sense if there were any evidence that players play differently in high-leverage situations.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you have conclusive evidence that there are no players who pitch differently in those situations?

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The null hypothesis is that performance in high-leverage situations is equal to performance in other situations. The burden of proof isn’t on me to prove that; it’s on you to disprove it.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Brian Wilson pitches better in save situations vs non-save situations. ??

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Batters hit .230/.320/.329 against him in high-leverage situations but .216/.306/.252 in medium-leverage situations. Does this make him unclutch?

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Go on..

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It means in high leverage situations he has to throw more strikes

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So, no.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I’m totally going to go through every player ever and prove that none of them had a statistically significant difference in their performance in situations of varying leverage.

Of course I’m not going to do that; it’s ridiculous.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Look, I claim, based on my personal experience and first hand observation, that high pressure situations affect some people more than others. You flatly deny it. I want to know what the basis of your belief is.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean, I’m willing to listen, but I have trouble accepting that all relievers are fungible in the 9th…

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no way that I would reasonably expect to BABIP .300, yet league average BABIP is pretty consistent around .300. And that’s in a large part because there’s a huge selection bias towards people who can actually hit the ball hard enough to BABIP .300 in the majors.

Similarly, when dealing with relievers in the major leagues, we’ve already selected for the ability to deal with pressure. They probably wouldn’t have made it that far without the ability to perform in a stressful situation. I suspect that for the most part, major league relievers will react to high pressure in a very similar way across the board.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

There's a ton of research on the subject

This Baseball Prospectus article from a few years ago is a pretty decent summary:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2656

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, having had a chance to consider, I think that ‘clutch’ is not what I’m getting at (it’s kind of a straw man actually)… what I mean is that, even at the major league level, there are guys who go after hitters, almost regardless of the hitter, and guys that nibble and basically accept a certain amount of walks in exchange for limiting loud contac (think Kirk Reuter). With a lead and in the ninth inning, a nibbler guy is the wrong guy to put out there.
I think I probably conflated pitching style with ‘heart’, but at the same time I think it takes a certain intestinal fortitude to challenge a hitter, even at the risk of getting loud contact, and that this is particularly true of the ninth inning and not something that has necessarily been selected for.
So, in conclusion, I think that the guy you trot out there in the ninth needs to have the brass balls to not fuck around and the stuff for that to be effective (which does not need to be ‘shut down’ stuff, but merely good enough that hitters have to respect it).
Now, if you have a guy like Rivera that has only one, incredible pitch, then using him to take the ninth inning away from the opponent makes sense, particularly on the road, but that is due to the stuff and not the heart.
OK, back to work…

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d have to think about that, but it doesn’t seem wrong to me. Good relievers do tend to strike out a lot more batters than starters.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d think you’d need some sort of cajones to be the guy who’s supposed to nail things down but get beat up and have to face everyone and then go out and do it again. If the reliever blows the game in the sixth it’s not as noticed as if it’s blown in the 9th. It’s maybe not whether or not they can do it in a game but whether they can do it repeatedly. I keep on thinking of poor Byung-Hyun Kim who looked defeated defend in the ’01 Series

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no statistical evidence that that matters.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand, what would that statistical evidence even look like?

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by waelwulf on Feb 29, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not something you can mathematically prove- not everything can be. Just having to hear it from the fans and the press day after day every time you blow a save has to wear some people down. Think of how well Benitez seemed to handle his extremely occasional screw ups- he’d criticize everybody and everything but himself and attack the press. That’s not exactly the attitude of somebody who’s handling pressure well.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This is baseball, not art

Everything can be proven or disproven with a reasonable level of confidence, given the proper tools. Armando Benitez couldn’t handle pressure, and yet he was a successful closer for several years. Maybe he stopped being able to handle pressure when he came here, but he failed because he stopped being good. If it were about the pressure, we would have plenty of examples of good middle relievers who couldn’t handle the pressure of closing. We don’t.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The major issue here is that we lack the proper tools, or even sufficient evidence to disprove the assertion.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah… as much as I feel like it’s appropriate to allow for considerations of makeup or temperament, it lacks falsifiability.

Oh well.

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by waelwulf on Feb 29, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't have the energy.

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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 29, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

One of those things that ...

I didn’t read anywhere else, but I can guarantee that a million people have already come up with it.

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow that was way funnier in my head

/whoops

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I read it in a Sylvester the cat voice.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I coulda pulled it off in person

It looks pretty dirty when I read it on the board.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

you know, phrasing it like that isn’t helping your cause any.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I read it in a Sylvester Stallone voice.

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by 1ManWolfPack on Feb 29, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I read it in a Sly Stone voice.

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by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

ooooh the rugby book we ordered showed up.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

Well struck.

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by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

Hembree if he can figure out not to throw 20 feet away from the plate

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

I’m so proud that Righetti is a blah blah blah man instead of an “et cetera” or “yadda yadda yadda” guy.

Is this a dig at Seinfeld?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH YADDA YADDA YADDA?

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

wcw wuz grant?

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

its a dig on Latin as well

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by Ohdecker on Feb 29, 2012 12:28 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

He blah blah blahed and was tired the next day.

by City Girl on Feb 29, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

He couldn’t find first base if he stood on it. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

There are so, so, so many.

by wcw on Feb 29, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would she throw a baby shower in Jerry’s apt? It’s so small and cramped.

by City Girl on Feb 29, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

And why is George so whipped by that girl?

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Dan Otero

…because I saw him pitch twice and he was totally dominant. At the time, his ERA was .37 or something. It was a ridiculously SSS, but I loved seeing the number on the scoreboard.

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

What’s he throw?

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by xanthan on Feb 29, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I assume you mean velocity. I don’t remember (I keep telling you guys — I am not good at this stuff!).

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

just use some combination of

non specific words like kruk
ex. hot fuzzy junk

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by Ohdecker on Feb 29, 2012 12:34 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I should have said he was “country hardballing it.”

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He throws the eephus and the occasional knuckleball.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention the quasi-reverse gyro ball & the oval googly.

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by Lunkus on Feb 29, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

He had good stuff, and even when he didn’t have good stuff he bore down and gritted through it.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

First, feces. This gets the hitters to dive out of the batters box

then he lobs any pitch over the plate for a called strike.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

When I was 12, I learned that a great way to make sure that nobody swings at your pitches is to hit the first guy in the face.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yadda Yadda

You can’t yadda yadda over the best part! Grant, you didn’t even mention the lobster bisque!

by sfgiantsrule24 on Feb 29, 2012 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

That line was supposed to read LESS than Sanchez right? or was that the joke?

I get lost on these things.

I am going with Clay Hensley, since he is a former Padre, and he had one good year in the last 5 or so, which goes with current giants FA thinking.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

yay floppers

least dempsey will get a free kick

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

err earned a free kick

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

so Clay Hensley is a hired gun.

just like his boy Mat Latos

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by Ohdecker on Feb 29, 2012 12:30 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

question

is Latos the mercenary or his new teammates?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 12:38 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Latos

but all his new teammates are demeaned by it

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by Ohdecker on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I have this feeling that the US is playing to win, Italy is just treating it as an exhibition game yet Italy’s still going to win

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

yeah

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

but anytime i can see tim howard on my tv makes me happy

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

the beard threw me a little

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

This is the feeling I get in every US match.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much yes. They run around and hustle their assess off, controlling most of the game, and then the other team just puts together some amazingly pretty play that the US could never ever do and when the game.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know

it’s a home game for Italy so it would be embarrassing for them to lose to the US.

US is playing okay. Not aggressive enough on offense and chasing a little much on D

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 12:37 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

It’s not that they’re not being aggressive on offense, it’s that they don’t have enough players with the creativity to breakdown a disciplined defense. And starting 3 defensive-minded CMs in the midfielder doesn’t help.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

but even when their forwards

get the ball near the penalty area…they are tentative.

Dempsey is a decent forward but Altidore always seems to be looking for a call.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 12:42 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Altidore seems to have every tool physically, but something just isn’t right.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

and I read that in a Hank Hill type voice

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Goes down really easy.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Beyond that. He doesn’t seem to have that knack for scoring that someone liek Depsey has.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Just as I type that Dempsey scores, assisted by Altidore.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He doesn’t read the game/move off the ball especially well and his touch is inconsistant. That said, he is a handful for opposing CBs and still has a decent scoring record.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 29, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

And as I say that, he knocks one down beautifully for Dempsey to slot home.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 29, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah…I totally thought he was going to boot that

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 1:01 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

American Soccer

When I was a bit younger, I used to play the game football manager a lot. There was an american kid on there, I think he was only 14 when he first appeared, called Freddy Adu. And he consistently developed into the best player in the world. For about 3 straight years of games. What did you people do to hm? Where is he now?

by KingOfSpain on Feb 29, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

he is in the mls

and occasionally on the national team

he peaked at 14

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Peaking at 14 sounds incredibly tragic.

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Im still trying to come up with a joke about that doesnt make me sound like a paedophile…nope, cant be done

by KingOfSpain on Feb 29, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

POP CULTURE REFERENCES

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

I LIKED POP CULTURE REFERENCES BEFORE THEY WERE COOL

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Coked out polar bears?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

They go ‘skiing’ often.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

got their “lift tickets”

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by Ohdecker on Feb 29, 2012 12:42 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

pffffffffffffft
you guys are so unhip it’s a wonder your bums don’t fall off!

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Then how would I do the Macarena while I drink Crystal Pepsi!?

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by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

HOW ABOUT THOSE GUYS!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

THEY ARE WHO THEY ARE

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

You DO realize that Beltran would have demanded a Fielder-esque contract if we had been bidding on him, right?

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by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone should tell him we got Melky Cabrera. You know, the leadoff hitter he wanted.

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by xanthan on Feb 29, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You're no fun

What if I had substituted Jose Reyes for Carlos Beltran?

by capn on Feb 29, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Beltran or [Jose] Reyes, we would have been without [Jeremy] Affeldt, [Javier] Lopez, [Ryan] Theriot, [Eli] Whiteside, [Clay] Hensley, and [Brett] Pill–obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

by GiantPain on Feb 29, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Would he have worked in a meteorological reference somewhere?

by capn on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

This would be funny

If wasn’t true

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re no fun

Hi, you must be new here.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I think you misspelled Zack Wheeler

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by Ohdecker on Feb 29, 2012 12:35 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

/haz a sad.

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

N-O-T

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

If we had done that

We would obviously have not been able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not an idiot.
JAY KAY LOL

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Cheer up sleepy Gene Lamont

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

It’s kind of a pity that ROTK 10 was so buggy, I enjoy playing as an officer a lot more than a ruler.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

I liked VII the best

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I played III on my SNES

I beat the game, once. And replayed the first and last scenario multiple times, usually as created ruler.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

semi-OT: billy koch

To reference Mr. Brisbee’s SBN piece. Man, he went from receiving MVP votes as a closer on the ‘02 A’s to being out of the majors three years later at age 30.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

I always saw his name as “Krotch”. It made me wonder why his parents did not name him something like “Fire”.

by capn on Feb 29, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The lesson is that only idiots give closers MVP votes.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I'm the only one here who likes the new Wild Card rules

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

no I like em too

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by Ohdecker on Feb 29, 2012 12:49 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

To me it just means teams need to try for their divisions

Which I always support

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I would have rather seen 2 divisions, like East and West, 1 division winner and 1 WC team from each. First round, the division winner gets to play all 5 games at home.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mind them.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I definitely think that this is the best way to add two teams to the playoffs.

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by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s stupid. Why don’t they just expand the playoffs to 16 teams and be done with it?

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, this scenario could have led to the 2011 Giants making the playoffs. I can’t possibly support that.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

So you like it better when two teams from the same divison

Are in a close race for their division, but both are going to make the playoffs so they don’t give a shit who wins the division?

And why does a WC team making the playoffs get the same treatment as a division winner?

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

  1. No, and I’m not sure where I said that.
  2. Ideally there would be no Wild Card, but having a one-game playoff is the worst idea imaginable.

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Get the money
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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

This current set up will just move that down a notch. Now instead of a close race for the wild card, the two teams won’t give a shit because they’re both wild card winners.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

And playoff races will feature teams of lower quality.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, this, exactly

Now, a team might clinch the Wild Card spot with ten games left in the season. It doesn’t matter what they do the rest of the way; those games are entirely meaningless. They’ll be setting their rotation and getting everything else ready for one game.

One game.

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C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

YES.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Frank Robinson, a Giant among managers

by mrs. owlcroft on Feb 29, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t like the initial Wild Card but learned to like the extra round. So maybe I’ll come around on this.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Eight Divisions, Zero Wildcards

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by son of ggf on Feb 29, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

dear god no

Under-.500 teams in the playoffs every other year!

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Lord Selig's Cup!

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't hate it

But I don’t like it, either.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Questions for all the brits on this board

are there any European hipsters who try to be “different” and follow mls brand soccer

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

Not a brit, but I’d have to say no. Hell no.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

The ‘different’ thing to do is follow the Bundesliga, St. Pauli are probably the most ‘alternative’ team to follow.

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Feb 29, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Hipsters don’t really do football.

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Feb 29, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ve never been to Portland, I take it.

by QuakeFan on Feb 29, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant over here (Britain), football (particularly its lower echelons) is still pretty working-class.

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Feb 29, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not British, European, nor hipster, but I have had season tickets to the Earthquakes since 1999.

Also, not trying to be “different.”

by QuakeFan on Feb 29, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

No.
(I’m not officially a Brit, I’m a New Zealander living in the UK. But I can assure you that the answer to your question is lol, no.)

by DiggingForFire on Feb 29, 2012 4:42 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

This means that there definitely are a few, but that they are not yet at the point where they can complain about other people ruining their ironic fun.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

GIANCARLO!!!!

Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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by marcello on Feb 29, 2012 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

I was just going to post that, poor baggs.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

“So, what can you tell me about Barry Zito?”

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

Goooaaaaalllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How that crappy play led to a goal is pretty amazing

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

Umm…welcome to football?

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

from one shot, it looked like Jozy accidently kicked it to Dempsey but from another vantage point, it looked like a totally sweet play. So….let’s go with sweet play

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a pretty nice layoff.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 29, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

DEMPSEY!!!

USA USA USA

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 29, 2012 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

When can we as a country come up with a better chant?

My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.

by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, other countries are all singing songs, and lots of them and all us neanderthal americans can come up with is USA USA. Nothing like creativity there guys.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

but it’s so easy and anyone can do it

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ooooooh Ooooooooooooh, Ooooooh Ooooooooooooh
/chops

My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.

by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Just read that occasionally fans will start belting out “Over There” or “America the Beautiful” at games. Kinda dig “Over There” as a soccer song

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

in english and in spanish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam%27s_Army

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

“Over there” is awesome for a soccer game. Plus it is way easier to sing as a large group than American the Beautiful

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

sl

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

We sang Que sera sera during our elimination game vs Yugoslavia in Nantes France 98.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we should give Grant the task of writing some sweet American chants like these http://fanchants.com/football-team/england/.

Better yet, he can write some for the Giants.

My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.

by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

FOR THE REPUBLIC!

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

idk i personally love the USA chant

simple and awesome

especially when used inappropriately

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

OOH ESS AAH!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.

by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

Dempsey's been killing it in the EPL

Not surprising he’s the one who scored

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

DEMSPY

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Seth Rosin: Couldn't throw an intentional walk if he wanted to

by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

Breaking?

Love how Baggs blames Ross for Posey’s injury.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/giants-talk/post/Hensley-had-a-whole-different-view-of-Po?blockID=660360&feedID=5879

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.

by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

And Hensley not making the team .

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

Cousins actually gave his No.33 to Rowand and took No.6

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Howard is awesome

I tore the roof off the house for my son Chuckie Jones.
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

.

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Seth Rosin: Couldn't throw an intentional walk if he wanted to

by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

not in california

Pedro Feliz.
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by son of ggf on Feb 29, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

These Italians have great hair

Ssory Doc, I'm on the Twitters
"Ah, fuck it!"-Lee Corso
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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

They’re from Italy, what do you expect? They’d be letting the country down if they didn’t have amazing hair

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

…and their backs…

My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.

by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you two for filling in in Natto’s absence.

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Women in huge sunglasses wearing scarves and riding Vespa scooters!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

And being fascist!

Adopted Alliterative Bryce Bandilla

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

“Hey! How about a pizza! I gotta-no job!”

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Yusmeiro Petit: dingerz.exe

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

CIAOOOOOO

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Tweetybox

by troymccluresf on Feb 29, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yellow

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Seth Rosin: Couldn't throw an intentional walk if he wanted to

by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

WHAAAA

Proud Papa of right-hander Clayton Blackburn whose pro debut made him look like one of the steals of the 2012 draft, as he allowed just six runs in 33 1/3 innings in the rookie-level Arizona League. Signed by Giants area scout (and former big leaguer) Dan Murray in the 16th round, Blackburn would touch 94-95 mph, sitting in the low 90s, with good feel for locating the pitch, and both his curveball and changeup project as above-average pitches.

by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

weirdo

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Yusmeiro Petit: dingerz.exe

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure. There is a third one too.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean it says it on his B-R page!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Ssory Doc, I'm on the Twitters
"Ah, fuck it!"-Lee Corso
WESTPHAL FIRED!

by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

No

There is another.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Drew

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just using it as an opportunity to make a Star Wars reference.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t understand the reference because there was another Drew but he wasn’t related to JD, Tim, and Stephen.

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WESTPHAL FIRED!

by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

WELL YOU SHOULD LEARN TO READ MY MIND

Actually, that would be creepy.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I understood, and I don’t read your mind. I think being familiar with Star Wars would be just as helpful in this scenario.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Drew Barrymore is his sister.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Yusmeiro Petit: dingerz.exe

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Drew Carey is their uncle.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Tweetybox

by troymccluresf on Feb 29, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Drew’s a big supporter of US Soccer.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup.

Part owner of the Sounders, I’m pretty sure.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Tweetybox

by troymccluresf on Feb 29, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Bob was your uncle

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Robert’s your favver’s bruvver.

Eli Whiteside has one more World Series ring than you.

by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Was that Sisqo’s band?

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that was “Dru Hill”…

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea.

It gets brought up a lot.

Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens

by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t that make him DJ?

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He wasn’t a communications major though.

Adopted Alliterative Bryce Bandilla

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently not in the South...

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Feb 29, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a friend in college

Who we called JD. His name was James Andrew. But when his parents came to visit him, we realized they called him “Drew”, so the JD thing stuck.

by GiantPain on Feb 29, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

My uncle's name was J.D. McKay.

Just the initials. The IRS used to send him stuff addressed to John Doe McKay because they couldn’t accept just initials as a name.

Frank Robinson, a Giant among managers

by mrs. owlcroft on Feb 29, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Qonly Vonly!

Great Kruk story.

Eli Whiteside has one more World Series ring than you.

by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you know that Janet and Michael are siblings as well?

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Actual LOL

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish there were some way to hide soccer-related posts.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

I wish there were some way to hide your posts.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

MAPS!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

MAP THIS

/grabs crotch

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Large map

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

height = 300 is your friend.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

But then we wouldn’t be able to bask in the glory of Crotch Lake.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Whose crotch is that?

by City Girl on Feb 29, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Canada's!

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

What are the smallmouth areas?

by City Girl on Feb 29, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The markings are just typical places, but smallmouths are free to roam anywhere they wish to in the crotch.

Adopted Alliterative Bryce Bandilla

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Nibbling areas

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Smallmouths like rocky points.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, there is a Mississippi River in Canada.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

/Lars grabs it

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 29, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

wet crotch

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My crotch isn’t as impressive.

Ssory Doc, I'm on the Twitters
"Ah, fuck it!"-Lee Corso
WESTPHAL FIRED!

by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not impressive. Too many veins.

by City Girl on Feb 29, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

But look at that size!

Ssory Doc, I'm on the Twitters
"Ah, fuck it!"-Lee Corso
WESTPHAL FIRED!

by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

And Grant’s yacht

Ssory Doc, I'm on the Twitters
"Ah, fuck it!"-Lee Corso
WESTPHAL FIRED!

by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

and my axe!

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Big Black Bay.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the stereotype.

Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.

by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to be used for navigation purposes.

Eli Whiteside has one more World Series ring than you.

by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a way.

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
Adopted Giant: Chris Heston

by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Get him banned? Or that random app/extension thingmabob?

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The second thing. Not that I thought you were serious, of course.

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
Adopted Giant: Chris Heston

by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Do tell.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer. You’re the person she blocks!

Adopted Alliterative Bryce Bandilla

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

D'oh!

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, I thought I got it from you. It’s an extension for Chrome, I think, but I don’t remember where it is.

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
Adopted Giant: Chris Heston

by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s called SB Nation Black List.

Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
"co-LUUUUM-bus"

by mymclife on Feb 29, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that racist?

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
Adopted Giant: Chris Heston

by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I have, in my hand, a list—a list of 109 known communists on McCovey Chronicles.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Just don’t make the people on the list post on a separate blog.

Adopted Alliterative Bryce Bandilla

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh come on. It’ll be a separate but equal blog.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

A separate blog with posts about soccer, basketball, and how cake is better than pie is inherently unequal to this one!

Adopted Alliterative Bryce Bandilla

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. B/c it drove that Ferrari.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

With 99 of its friends?

Adopted Alliterative Bryce Bandilla

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

canalstreetchronicles actually came up with a script to hide individual comments

cant find a link right though but i remember they did it

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Seth Rosin: Couldn't throw an intentional walk if he wanted to

by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s one that works for MCC, too.

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
Adopted Giant: Chris Heston

by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t look at me. If I complain about the proliferation of non-baseball sports posts, I get piled on. And not in a good way.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL GRUMPY!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m so sensitive!

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope you don’t join the military then.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Who wants to get raped too much? I want to get raped just the right amount.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

SNEEZY

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I only have a problem with soccer, because (let’s face it) soccer is the worst.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I rank soccer and basketball the same. They’re both at different ends of the spectrum, but equally far from good.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

World Cup> any basketball game I am not playing in

But MLS can go into the dust bin for all I care

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

They’re basically the same game, but the net is bigger in one.

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by troymccluresf on Feb 29, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

And oddly that one scores like 100 less times per game.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Basketball is also prejudicial towards people of normal height.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Heightist bastards.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d discuss the sbnation youtube channel, but I won’t…

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Or at least have people comment in the same subthread, to make quick Z-ing through them easier.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d be okay with this solution.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Back line played much better in the 2nd half.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

refs are cracking me up in this game

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

Hensley will likely make the team

To boost Zito’s ego when he’s feelin’ blue.

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by danosaurus on Feb 29, 2012 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

us needs to hold here

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Geez - AJ Burnett hit himself in the eye with a ball during bunting practice?

Heading out to see an eye specialist. That can’t be good.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

Gotta keep your eye on the ball.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

clap clap clap

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

LITERALLY!

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL BUCCOS

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

REASONS THE DH SUCKS!

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by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t AJ’s mom tell him not to shoot his eye out?

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to be traded to the NL for Christmas!
You’ll bunt your eye out, kid.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, apparently it wasn’t serious till it was.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Dumb ass.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

There's actual film of it on ESPN now.

Looks like he got himself in the temple, not the eye itself, which is good.

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by mrs. owlcroft on Feb 29, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

is twote a word?

I thought it was tweeted.

Stupid twitter.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 29, 2012 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

/applause

Well done.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He twote the twit that twould be tweeted.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone else like to say things like

“snoze” instead of “sneezed”, following from the “froze/freeze” pairing…?

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Feb 29, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

is tweeted a word?

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

it all confuses me.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 29, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

USA USA USA

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 1:38 PM PST reply actions  

Suck it Italy

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

HAI GAIZ LET'S GO TO AMICI'S

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

unpack

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by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

USA USA USA

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

Beat ItLA

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 1:40 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

USA USA USA

GET A BRAIN MORANS

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

Can I make a suggestion? Can y’all put your footy talk in one thread? Reply to each other and such? Then us real ’mericans can Z through them more easily.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Match is over.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Final score?

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

1-0 WE BEAT THE EYE-TALIANS

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

UNPACK!

Giant Dirtbags: :(
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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

forgive my ignorance

what does unpack mean in this context?

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

UNPACK UNPACK UNPACK

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

this is not helpful

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It basically means if you read the subtext of something, you can find subliminal meaning that may reveal the author’s subconscious biases, whether it is racism, sexism, etc.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Natto hates Italian Americans

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you for using the correct terminology.

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Since I had to ask once, I’ll pass it along.

I guess a month ago, there was a comic whose punchline was Sabean & Baer trying to wow a free agent by bringing them to Amici’s, and someone claimed that if you “unpack” the sentiment behind that comic, it was really racist because of the implication that Italian food is unworthy or for peasants or some other ridiculousness that anyone who’s ever listened to KNBR would understand to not be anywhere close to racism.

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by troymccluresf on Feb 29, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

this is helpful!

As is speckops’s comment above. Thanks for enlightening me!

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It was about six months ago, I think.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

This must be Natto’s proudest day.

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by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

/flashes secret sign

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Blow out

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

1-0

Us.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s over. Let’s go back to crotch talk.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

If this new playoff system was in place for the 2011 season

Day 162 would have never happened.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

One of the si.com writers has a column on this.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

What about on leap year?

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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 29, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

the thing is, it happened

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Shhh Don’t tell them that.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Can u back through all the other seasons in the history of baseball

And tell me how the new system would’ve affected those. My guess is one or two of those would have been better.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would I want to do that?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

For funsies

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I love the idea of more undeserving teams making the playoffs.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean, just think about the 2002 NL

Can you imagine the race for the second Wild Card spot between Houston (84-78) and Montreal (83-79)? I’m creaming my pants with retroactive excitement about that, and about one of them getting to face the Giants (95-66) in a one-game playoff.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

In 2001, the A's (102-60) would have played the Twins (85-77)

Taste the excitement!

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m creaming my pants with retroactive excitement

I nominate this for phrase of the day.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

2nd

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m more of a Sweatin’ to the Oldies guy.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I might have been okay with that as it would give the Expos one last chance to win something and have the entirety of Quebec give Bud the finger.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Stupid strike

On the other hand, that strike did ensure that we wouldn’t see a postseason with two teams under .500. That really would have blown.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Hooray for cherrypicking seasons to make my point!

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, let's look at every team that would be the second team in

1995: Houston (76-68), California (78-67)
1996: Montreal (88-74), Seattle (85-76)
1997: New York or Los Angeles (88-74), Anaheim (84-78)
1998: San Francisco (89-73), Toronto (88-74)
1999: Cincinnati (96-66), Oakland (87-75)
2000: Los Angeles (86-76), Cleveland (90-72)
2001: San Francisco (90-72), Minnesota (85-77)
2002: Los Angeles (92-70), Boston or Seattle (93-69)
2003: Houston (87-75), Seattle (93-69)
2004: San Francisco (91-71), Oakland (91-71)
2005: Philadelphia (88-74), Cleveland (93-69)
2006: Philadelphia (85-77), Chicago (90-72)
2007: San Diego (89-73), Detroit or Seattle (88-74)
2008: New York (89-73), New York (89-73)
2009: San Francisco (88-74), Texas (87-75)
2010: San Diego (90-72), Boston (89-73)
2011: Atlanta (89-73), Boston (90-72)

Hooray for mediocrity and the Yankees and Red Sox making the playoffs every year!

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

So 25% increase of playoffs to Giants

4 times. At the cost of what, 2 times they made the 4 seed?

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

02 might not have happened!

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't we win the division in 00?

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

And '03.

97 and 100 wins, respectively. 2003 was wire-to-wire.

Fucking Marlins. Fucking Jose Cruz, Jr.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes but the WC KO'd us both times

WC deathmatch game burns their best starter. Although… we won game 1 both times and….

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah ok, I get what you were getting at.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

lies

Edwards Guzman hit his first major league home run against the Expos, didn’t he? I remember that.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, it was against the Mets

He played for the Expos later. I think I got those two things confused.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That argument can be made for anything affecting the end of a season. My roommate claimed that the 1993 Giants would be in the postseason. It really doesn’t matter either way, as far as specific examples; it’ll all even out over time.

My problem is that a third of the sport makes it to the postseason.

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by troymccluresf on Feb 29, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

but Day 163 is guaranteed to happen, every year.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 29, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

not even close to the same thing

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

But that would be like making Leap Day happen every year

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Close.

But the whole week leading up to 162 was what made it great. Also, it relied on 4 games, not 2.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

No, and let me try to explain why

Baseball is by its nature a game where the lesser team will often win. That’s why there’s a 162-game season; it’s so that the best teams win out. 162 games provide a sufficiently large sample size to evaluate teams. If two teams are tied, it may go to a playoff. I would prefer that three-game playoffs be used here (like the National League did before the leagues were abolished by MLB), but even a one-game playoff is simply one part of a 163-game season. This one-game series is not part of the regular season; it is a discrete event and far too small a sample to be fair in any way. Above I gave the example of the 2001 AL. It would have been a travesty if the Twins had beaten the A’s that year in one game and eliminated Oakland despite the huge gap between the teams that the regular season had shown.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

But in one scenario, teams play a sudden death game to determine who goes on in the playoffs.

In the other, teams play a sudden death game to determine who goes on in the playoffs.

It’s kinda close to the same thing. It certainly isn’t “not even close to the same thing”.

by GiantPain on Feb 29, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, now we’re talking about vague semantics.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty straightforward, really. It’s a characterization. There’s certainly crossover on that Venn Diagram.

by Every6thDay on Feb 29, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Cherrypicking extreme examples is disingenuous

I would bet over the years Wild Card 1 and Wild Card 2 had faily similar records.

And why should the Wild Card be treated on equal footing as a division winner.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

They should just say

“You need to finish within X games of the other wild card to qualify for a 1 game play off”

Set it at like 3 or something.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a Wild Card team deserves to be punished for not winning its division

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

You could be punishing the 2nd best team in the league.

While rewarding the 5th. I’m fine with punishing the 4th, while rewarding the 5th.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Why?

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

If divisions don't matter

Why even have them?

I look forward to division races mattering more than they used to. It drove me crazy when late season games between division rivals didnt matter because both teams were in the playoffs.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

They want to fuel division rivals like Giants – Dodgers and Yankees – Sox. With divisions and unbalanced schedules, those teams get to play 18 times a year.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m perfectly happy playing the Dodgers more often than the Marlins.

Also, divisions are better for the television market as well. 3/4 of the your team’s games air at 7 PM or 1 PM. Not so with midwest and east coast road games.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I'm fine with divisions too.

I just don’t agree you should be automatically punished for not winning your division.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a fine line to walk, I guess.

I liked the two-team wild card play-in a lot back in 2009, but over time I’ve soured on it somewhat. What I really want is to reward winning your division – since I think divisions are fun and good for the game in many respects – but what this new system really does is punish you for not winning your division. It’s opening the gap, but not in the way I’d like.

How you reward winning over and above HFA is beyond me, though.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

This system allows a third-place team to win the World Series

I’m very much not okay with that.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It practically already happened with the 2006 Cardinals.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

That was awful, of course.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

So no matter how you have the divisions set up, as long as there are divisions there is going to be some room for those kinds of shenanigans. I agree that fringe .500 teams winning the WS sucks, but I guess when that happens I do levy some responsibility on obviously superior teams for not getting the job done.

I don’t know. I just want good, exciting baseball, dammit.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Under the old system, the only team I can think of offhand that really shouldn’t have been there was the ’73 Mets.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really like the old system. It just seems like it makes things irrelevant for most of the league too quickly. But, that’s just my personal preference. I like the setup the way it is.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I dislike divisions as a concept

I can accept them because it’s probably impossible to sustain fan interest if only two teams out of thirty go past the regular season. There certainly shouldn’t be three.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Part of it is here.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Here we go:

Here we go:

In the 32-league seasons since the wildcard was implemented (1995-2010), the average W% for the best team in the league is .620. The second-best division winner averages .583, the third-best .556. The wildcard team is .573 on average, while the team that would be the second wildcard averages .548.

So D1 > D2 > W1 > D3 > W2

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

According to those #’s, differences between the 2 wild cards average 4 games apart.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t seem particularly close, to me.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

If they’re going to have a second wildcard, I would really prefer to see the 4th and 5th seed duke it out in a play-in game/series to decide the #4 seed. That makes infinitely more sense to me.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Even wouldn’t mind the caveat where if the 5th place team is a division winner and the 4th place team is wild card, that the 5th place team is @home.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d be fine with concession as well.

Fucking Central division.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re right, it’s one more.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 29, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The answer of course is Jake Dunning

Jake Dunning: converted SS and the next Joe Nathan, except without...you know

by fjm on Feb 29, 2012 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

The answer of course is onions

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll take The Rapists for $200

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by fjm on Feb 29, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Rough, that's just the way your mother likes it

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Jap Anus relations for $500

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry Grant, I know you have similar problems, but wow, fuck this guy.
Schiff, 46, is facing another kind of jam this year: Paid a lower bonus, he said the $350,000 he earns, enough to put him in the country’s top 1 percent by income, doesn’t cover his family’s private-school tuition, a Kent, Connecticut, summer rental and the upgrade they would like from their 1,200-square- foot Brooklyn duplex.
“I feel stuck,” Schiff said. “The New York that I wanted to have is still just beyond my reach.”

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bonus-withdrawal-puts-bankers-malaise-050100338.html

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by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

first world problems

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

eh reminds me a little bit of the boxing coach in cinderella man

you can be making a quarter mill a year but if youre expected because of your station to live like youre making a half a mill it can still be very stressful for those guys

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The median household income in the US is $26,364. In Brooklyn it’s $32,135.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Things are bad, but that sounds way too low! I hope. I thought it was closer to $45K.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

checking, if only for my own edification

Ok, the 2010 Current Population Survey has the median household income at $49,445. Over 2006-2010, the median was on average at $51,914.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t seem to find those number in your links but they are probably more accurate than the numbers I got from wikipedia.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

subjective line

Search for “median” on those two pages and you should find it. Although there is gobs of data on both pages.

I think I found what you were looking at:

In 2006, the “real” (adjusted for inflation) median annual household income rose 1.3% to $50,233.00 according to the Census Bureau.4 The real median earnings of men who worked full time, year-round climbed between 2006 and 2007, from $43,460 to $45,113 (about 3.6 time minimum wage in 2006 to 3.7 time minimum wage in 2007). For women, the corresponding increase was from $33,437 to $35,102 (2.8 and 2.9 times minimum wage respectively). The median income per household member (including all working and non-working members above the age of 14) was $26,036 in 2006.5

This $26,036 figure is close to your $26,364, anyway. The reference is to the U.S. Census — it’s the same data. This figure is for each household *member*. Then of course you got to add them up to get the household income.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the guy

who says that people without money don’t understand the stress of having to consider taking his 3 kids out of private school.

Yeah people without money only have worry about trivial stuff like food and shelter

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 2:09 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

That entire article is full of first world problems.

On a recent Sunday, he drove to Fairway Market in the Red Hook section of Brooklyn to buy discounted salmon for $5.99 a pound.
He said he no longer goes on annual ski trips to Whistler (WB), Tahoe or Aspen.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 29, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not even first world problems

it’s spoiled rich people problems

The whole article sounds like it came out if the Onion

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 2:13 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

yeah this whole article should just be titled "Fuck yo couch"

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

perfect

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 29, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

It makes me pretty angry. Also, these are the same people who totally screwed the economy. They should shut the hell up and be glad they even have jobs.

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

They should be in jail.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

First I was like, "Hey cheap salmon!"

And then I was like “Red Hook? That’s where Tazz is from.” I can understand his rich white person trepidation.

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man, I remember this guy from about a year ago
M. Todd Henderson, a University of Chicago law professor who’s teaching a seminar on executive compensation, said the suffering is relative and real. He wrote two years ago that his family was “just getting by” on more than $250,000 a year, setting off what he called a firestorm of criticism.
“Yes, terminal diseases are worse than getting the flu,” he said. “But you suffer when you get the flu.”

Yeah, and when you have the flu you don’t go around telling people with cancer how rough you have it, and how they don’t understand how much you’re suffering too.

This stuff makes me feel all pitchfork and torchy.

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by apistat on Feb 29, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

This sounds like Patrick Ewing

“Yeah we make a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money too.”

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Live below your means

I can live anywhere and raise 4 kids on 250k a year, not even blinking. Tokoyo? London? NYC? SF? Easy.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I would sign up for his class just to say “Fuck You!” then drop out.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

All problems are local/relative. There’s some rich person out there who is just as upset over the fact that he has a dent in his car, as someone is that they won’t have dinner tonight.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

10% rule.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

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by Murray, Present on Feb 29, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

So how do we give questions to Baggs? Via “comment”?

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

Nobody sends questions to Baggs, not nobody! Not no how!

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Baggschat

my guess is that barring injuries to others, Belt is most likely to begin in Triple-A Fresno.

by GiantPain on Feb 29, 2012 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

So I get to root for injuries now?

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Sabean gets run over by a train

So...I've decided to adopt Seinfeld.

by positiveuphemism on Feb 29, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I honestly didn’t think this would happen. Shows what I know.

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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 29, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

You know nothing, Alex Snow.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Me either. It makes less than no sense that they believe in Crawford and Pill, but not Belt. I would love to think that they just don’t care about Crawford and Pill, but are trying to make sure that Belt’s development path goes well, but I know that’s not true.

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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL YOUR FAITH IN MANAGEMENT

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Breaking!

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh. It wants you to login.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I doubt this works for me

lulz

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t asked to log in. Give a name for questions, sure. But no need to sign up for anything.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool. I guess the FB, G+, Yahoo logins were just options.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re gonna need some stairs…

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Key word here: “my guess is….”

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, Baggs posted my "question"!
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by GiantPain on Feb 29, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I assume this is a rip on the Giants potentially sending Belt to Fresno. If a hitter isn’t deemed to be ready, he isn’t deemed to be ready. I do think Belt will reach a stage when he can’t learn anything in the minors. I’m not sure he’s at that stage right now. That’s why his approach will be watched carefully this spring.

by GiantPain on Feb 29, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ignoring the fact that the Giants would be better with him right now

What is he not doing that being in the minor leagues would help him with, other than becoming a veteran?

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

In AAA, Belt walked almost as much as he struck out while maintaining ~145 wRC+. I don’t think he has much left to learn there.

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by marcello on Feb 29, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

He doesn't. That's what's so maddening.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe the AAA team teaches how to manage your boss effectively

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by marcello on Feb 29, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

This is my feeling as well.

I don’t feel he’ll improve in Fresno, and of our options for the 25th man, Belt probably has both the highest floor and ceiling. He can only help the team, which is not the case with Burriss.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The only good thing about Belt going to AAA is that he’ll get to play everyday.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

This

If he isn’t going to play everyday in the majors, or at least like 4 out of every 5 days, he should be in AAA.

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by marcello on Feb 29, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That feels like a moral victory, since I don’t think it will make him a better player.

I’ve said this before, but I’d rather him get 300 PAs against major league pitchers than 600 PAs against AAA org filler.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That means shit to me

He should be playing every day in the majors. The fact that we have to take a grain of salt from management not fucking up because they already fucked up in the first place is just… fucked up.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Sending Belt to Fresno is not my issue. It’s keeping Pill AND Burriss over him that is my issue.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Must…not…root…for…injuries.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Tow that line, Baggs!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

TO THAT LINE BAGGS

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

One toes a line.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Not if the line needs to be moved and has no means of self-propulsion.

by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 29, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Good luck using your toes while sailing!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

One tows a boat using a line. The line is not towed.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, do not picture my toes wearing little sailor suits and running all over your kitchen table. You’re welcome.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you. I see this everywhere and it drives me insane.

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Toe the rubber

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s nothing to be gained by doing the opposite of whatever towing the line is. Not in Spring Training, certainly.

by Every6thDay on Feb 29, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I asked the Pill question and have submitted another about Cain. I really don’t know what’s left to ask.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

From RotoGraphs:

8) At least 3 of the following 6 pitchers will end up on the DL in 2012: Ervin Santana, Bud Norris, Edwin Jackson, Madison Bumgarner, Michael Pineda and Ryan Dempster. This information is from an article I am writing. 46% of all pitchers that pitched at least 120 innings and threw sliders 30% or more of the time end up on the DL sometime during the next season. These 6 pitchers all threw sliders over 35% of the time in 2011.

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/jeff-zimmermans-10-bold-predictions-for-2012/

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

This kind of definitive statement is analytically lazy:

At least 3 of the following 6 pitchers will end up on the DL in 2012

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

this

either predict exactly who will be on the DL or shut the hell up

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I was more looking at the line 46% of the pitchers that did what MadBum did ended up on the DL.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

What they should have done is present their data with the realization that, in fact, it is possible that none (or all) of those players will go on the DL in 2012.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

On the one hand, it is called “Bold Predictions”. On the other hand, it is not called “Nonsensical Statements”.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

This kind of definitive statement is analytically lazy:

Fangraphs MO!

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by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh, thiiiiiiis.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Johnson’s reply is pretty humorous though.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoever wrote this has no idea how statistics work

At least 3 of the following 6 pitchers will end up on the DL in 2012

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That was meant to be block quote, but whatever.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

If I flip this coin twice, I will get 1 heads.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

What % of pitchers end up on the DL at some point in a season anyway? It’d be more meaningful if he broke it down into specifically elbow injuries. Otherwise, sliders might just be causing everyone to twist their ankles.

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Feb 29, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

all the ones on my fantasy team

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

N-O-T-R-A-D-E
I’ve wondered this myself. When I asked about it earlier this winter, I was told N-O. I’m not discounting the possibility, but I’m told the Giants will extinguish every moment of exclusivity until they get Cain signed or watch him leave as a free agent.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 2:22 PM PST reply actions  

If they trade him away he gone.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

How often does a player traded in midseason sign with his original team that winter? The only example I can think of offhand is with Rickey Henderson and the A's.

Of course, a team that trades a player in midseason isn’t likely to want that player back.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

And the relatively small odds of a FA signing with any one team.

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by Deleuzian on Feb 29, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

ive always thought it would be cool to be able to loan players

like the pirates could loan mccutchen to another team in return for prospects and then get him back again at the start of the next year

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s happened before, but only rarely.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

ah, right

Totally forgot about that. Not a good trade for the Phillies.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not against this line of thought

Especially if Cain goes for 100% FA deal, see what you can get for 2-3 months of service. You might get him back, or you have 20 mil a year on someone else anyways. Or in Sabean’s case, 8 more guys.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Jerry Stackhouse.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants could be 15 games out at the deadline and will N-O-T trade anybody.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

In fact, they would probably try to add a piece or two.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was not worth it to trade mid season anymore

You only get compensation if he then signs with the team he was traded to or something?

Weird new rules are weird.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not even going to try to understand them. Whenever something happens, Fla-Giant can just tell us what it means.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Pickwise, yeah, the other team doesn’t get the new picks for the FA leaving.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Hensley added to projection aggregation spreadsheet

doesn’t look like anyone is making prediction on this guy though.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoGHQUDFQsDKdEJKSVl4VGpLWXdxRi1oYU1BWG9USUE#gid=6

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by DJ Tofu on Feb 29, 2012 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks for all your work on this

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

no prob! It would be fun looking at this as the season progresses.

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by DJ Tofu on Feb 29, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Baggschat LOL
Baggs when will the Giants become the Yankees of the west….
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by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 2:32 PM PST reply actions  

actually

both the Yankees and Red Sox are trying to lower their payrolls

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 2:50 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Yes, because they’re against the luxury tax threshold.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The new luxury tax games are actually going to be kind of interesting, I think. How will the top teams toe the line?

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagine they’ll find some way to tow it with a tugboat.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't tell if this is a grammar correction or not.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

A propos of a subthread elsewhere here.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, I see it now.

I actually thought Lars was correct – tow as in the nautical sense – but it is apparently of military origin.

I was led to believe that as distinct from toe the line, as in “get close to crossing the line.”

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Noting that the latter is the sense I meant to convey.

I imagine they’ll be dancing back and forth across the soft cap as they see fit, with up years to push for a championship and down years to receive forgiveness in the form of compensation.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The ongoing tow the line v. toe the line debate.

Tow the line is totally wrong. Why can’t you people see that?

http://grammartips.homestead.com/toetheline.html

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

“toe” is correct. I would also have accepted “whiff.”

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

From Russia, Whiff Love.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I never knew Brian Wilson was a Big Lebowski fan
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by Deleuzian on Feb 29, 2012 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

Seems pretty dang likely that he would be.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, just based off of personality I would have pegged him as Big Lebowski fan.

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Who isn’t?

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

For a second I thought he was promoting cigarettes.

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by apistat on Feb 29, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too.

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Toasted!

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by Murray, Present on Feb 29, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be weirdly incongruous with Wilson’s MO.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes you eat the beard, sometimes the beard eats you.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 29, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I phrased my question about Lopez’s platoon very well.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

Linked on the sidebar on MCC

Bryce Harper deleted his Twitter account? Sad day.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Baggs Chat
Actually, I talked with Bobby about Belt today. Don’t read me wrong: The Giants are high on Belt and believe he has the chance to be an impact hitter. They owe it to themselves, and him, to be open minded. And they will be. But as we all know, organizational inventory is a big consideration when putting the roster together. You can always start with Huff, and if a change needs to be made or an injury occurs, then you dip down and get Belt. Remember, it’s a long season. The guys who start on opening day aren’t always the guys who finish, even on World Series winners. (See Bowker, John.)

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:44 PM PST reply actions  

So there’s a chance Huff could be traded?

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

depending how he does the first few months

there is very good chance he could be Molina’d

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 3:04 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

He is a beat writer

I care more what Bochy and Sabean say.

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by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if we could wait until halfway through ST to freakout?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 2:52 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Nope.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL YOU

Suppressing MCC freakouts.

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by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

what the heck is

organizational inventory?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 2:51 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Which guys are on the 25 (and getting paid $$) and who has options left, stuff like that.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The most boring temp job in the world

I organized and inventoried some breast implant factory in Fremont once… lasted 2 weeks.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

any talk of the Giants moving the fences like the Mets are doing with Citi?
by CJ 2:47 PM
Over Larry Baer’s dead body.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 2:48 PM PST reply actions  

Good

the fences are fine where they are

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 2:53 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

yeah, it’s fine the way it is. Also, there’s really only a “fence” in left

Pedro Feliz.
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by son of ggf on Feb 29, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree.
What’s the chances of a Cain extension before the season starts?
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I think it’ll happen. He wants to stay and the Giants want to keep him. The rest is just posturing.
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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

Baggs still hasn’t answered my question :(

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just flooding him with silly questions now.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

BAGGS WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO TAKE YOUR TALENTS TO TV?

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by say hey nation on Feb 29, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Good

Ask him about Zito

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re likely unaware of this, but last year it was a CSN baseball chat tradition to have at least one question about Barry Zito. Could you tell us something about Barry Zito (can be a real fact or completely made up, or both).
by GP 2:57 PM

He wore a rumpled, patterned red sweater to the ballpark today. I’m not sure, but I think Walter Matthau wore the same sweater in “Grumpy Old Men.”
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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Zito does have good taste in clothes.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Can someone ask him about Burris?

what exactly does the club see in him?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 2:56 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

That might take him a while to answer.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure his answer will defensive flexibility. Sounded like that when he answered the Pill question.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I would guess speed (whatever) plus no more options.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s probably a bunch of terrible, misguided reasons.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 29, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

VROOOOOM

Call it 9-1-10 fever.

I like having 1 vroomer off the bench, but I preferred DaRUUUUN. My guess is Sanchez’s ? Made Burris a slightly better fit.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

then

they should have kept Ford.

At least he plays CF well

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 3:05 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I dont disagree

Somehow Giants think infielders can make OF, but not vice versa. Flexibility is my guess. Both hit like dirt.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

But was a disaster everywhere else, including at the plate and on the basepaths. He has no place on the roster.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

as opposed to Velez?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 3:08 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Also useless.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

sucky player fail

I meant Burris

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 3:09 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Same answer. Also useless. Should not be on a major league roster. In his case, position flexibility means playing many positions poorly.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Imagine the fantasy impact

Being able to use Burriss at 7 positions!

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't knock Velez till you tried it

I enjoy the fact of all the Giants who went to LA and sucked, Velez broke the MLB record for most PA without a hit in a year for them.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

They should have let both of them go.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If vroom is your only tool

You don’t deserve a spot on the 25 man roster. If the Giants really want a guy on the bench who only knows how to run fast, they should just give Usain Bolt $500k to ride the pine.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 29, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That’d be Usain cray-z.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Like Herb Washington on the 1974 A’s.

Washington, a track star with no baseball experience, appeared in 105 games for the Athletics in 1974 and 1975, scoring 33 runs and stealing 31 bases, without once playing the field or coming up to bat. His 1975 Topps baseball card is the only baseball card in history to use the “Pinch Runner” position labe

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That last word should be “label”

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

This is exactly why I want teams to have the September roster sizes all year round. That would be fun.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 29, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The ‘74 A’s were so good that they spent a roster spot on a player who couldn’t hit or field and won the World Series anyway.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I respect that.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a good job of accurately identifying the talent level of the team.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Fangraphs has him at -.4 WAR for his career.

Which is odd because he has a positive speed score.

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s all the caught stealing.

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That, and -3 runs for positional value…

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy shit. And he went 0-2 in stolen bases in the post-season. He was a huge failure.

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by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, according to Wikipedia, he decided to settle in Youngstown fucking Ohio. What the hell—-why??

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by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude owned some McDonald’s stores.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

He wasn’t even from Youngstown. It’d be like someone growing up in Utah and deciding to settle down in East St. Louis.

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by rotorueter on Feb 29, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Mebbe he met a lady friend.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

There ain’t no lady friends in East St Louis. At least none that you’d want to bring home to mom.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Jim Otto used to own a couple of Burger Kings and the walls were covered with photos of him. Nice guy.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to one. Rocklin, wasn’t it?

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Auburn

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah. I knew it was somewhere on my trek to SLC.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You were close enough. I don’t believe he owns any of the Burger Kings anymore though.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The BK in the San Antonio Shopping Center used to be full of football photos. Must’ve been one of his.

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by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Had a positive wPA tho

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by Azmanz on Feb 29, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but Burriss is the only guy on the roster who can play 7 different positions crappily with speed!

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I like having 1 guy who can run

For all the 1 run games the G’s play. Yea, he preferably has more than just that 1 tool.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 29, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Grant is tweeting some disturbing pictures.

What a sicko.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 3:32 PM PST reply actions  

Jesus. He's gone mad.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Power corrupts.

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think C3PO has a propellering mode.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

C3PO can also speak sex.

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

isn’t it possible that Otero wasn’t a NRI because he’s on the 40 man roster? just wondering.

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

oh someone beat me to it

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

the best part of spring is almost here

photo day albums are starting to go up on Zimbio! Giants should be soon.

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

nearly every picture of the royals in their album is tagged as Joakim Soria

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Somewhat?

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking if I said “extremely”, then I’d be forced to quantify it…

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I DEMAND THAT YOU QUANTIFY THIS SOMEWHATNESS

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

On a scale of 0 (“Buster”) -10 (Amici’s), it’s an 11

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Soira’s nickname?

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Dammit. Soria*.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah…I think he discontinued it

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

/googles

…Oh.

Carry on, then.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

the best part is the games!

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by son of ggf on Feb 29, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I love picture day.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You OK?

Any threat of a tornado where you live?

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Not at the moment. It’s been a busy day, though, with damage to the west and north of us. At least one person was killed in Cumberland County, about an hour west of here. And we just got through with more tornado warnings to our south, near the Smokies. The clearing line should be approaching soon.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm surprised this hasn't made its way on here yet.
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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 29, 2012 3:45 PM PST reply actions  

And actually

Heath Hembree is at a 3.65 FIP for this season too.

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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 29, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Big difference in starting vs relieving though.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

lol.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

what’s the difference between FIP & FAP?

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by son of ggf on Feb 29, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Traditional = FAP FAP FAP
Metrics = FIP FIP FIP

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

/Giants Pain faps

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

And Surkamp is one player who would actually sign a Matt Moore type deal!

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by EliminateMe on Feb 29, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha.

Isn’t that around where Bauer is, too?

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

still in the Surkamp

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If he was a knight he would be Ser Surkamp.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

if this knight went camping it would be ser surkamp's camp

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

If he was running an election effort from there it would be Ser Surkamp’s Campaign Camp.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

one of his pollsters might

Survey Ser Surkamp’s Campaign Camp

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone but Zito, right?

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what family Ser Zito represents.

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dunno but the banner would be Avacados on an egg-yellow field.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

being impaled by a unicorn

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like it’s getting to the point where I’m legitimately missing out on this board by not having read GoT.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

hey well the dvds come out next week

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You are missing out on so much more by not having read those books!

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too sometimes.

But I also don’t have a lot of free time to invest to watch the show or read the books. Or the drive.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You’d just be frustrated after reading the first 5 books and finding out the last two probably won’t be finished for 8 more years. Although, I am looking forward to the HBO-GRRM fight that is going to take place in about 4 years when GRRM doesn’t have material for the next season yet. It should be epic.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Smartphone + google books. Read them while you’re pooping!

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don’t like sex and violence or violent sex or killing murder and mayhem, so that keeps me from reading them. the mister has read the first one and agrees that I probably wouldn’t appreciate it. I trust him to know me.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I also have a bunch I want to read right now too.

I am only 2 books into the Bonds series.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Book 1: Bobby
Book 2: Barry
Book 3: ?

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

stupid rogue "s"

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Book 3: CDOs
Book 4: Credit Default Swaps
Book 5: Destruction of Wall Street

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

60s singer

Gary “US”

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Does the baseball team you are on not practice everyday, or do you post while shagging BP in the OF?

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The field was too wet to practice, so we did some stuff indoors and got home early.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Would have been cooler if you posted while shagging

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Alas, I don’t do that.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Ewwwww

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Well you are supposed to think about baseball.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting. A Game of Thrones MMORPG is slated to be relased next year.

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Next year?

That sounds worryingly early. Worrying because it doesn’t seem like enough development time to be, you know, good.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It is slated to enter beta this fall.

http://kotaku.com/5889362/in-the-game-of-thrones-mmorpg-you-win-or-you-grind

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Browser-based. Blech.

No wonder.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

i think i read it's a browser based mmo

not like a WoW type game

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I've seen footage from BSGO.

I am guessing it will be pretty shallow gameplay-wise.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

SANSAESQUE

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

BOOM

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

rude

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Waaaay over my head.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Regardless of development time, every MMO seems to be bad lately. My guess is it will get pushed back a year or two like everything else. Or it’s browser based or something.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s about as much chance of this being good as USA beating Italy in soccer.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully Guild Wars 2 will live up to its potential.

Making most other MMOs irrelevant.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

GW2 looks good

I might be up for playing it if I wasn’t quitting WoW after basically seven fucking years of playing that game. No more MMOs for now.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 29, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. I played WoW for about a year, got my Loremaster, got a PS3, and lost all interest since I had no investment in the endgame. My main hurdle to MMOs is playing on a Mac.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think MMOs are about done aren’t they? Or maybe I’m just a gamer hipster.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s the new MMO?

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Feb 29, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah.

The free-to-play, microtransactions route is opening up the genre again. There’s no shortage of WoW clones, but the market is getting more diverse, with the free market taking care of the rest.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I bought a life time subscription to LOTRO only for them to go to free-to-play. I was too pissed to ever try it lol.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Oof.

Yeah, that would be a bit of a souring experience, wouldn’t it.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Worse than that

All my buddies and I decided to leave WoW and move to this game. I buy 2 copies. One is a lifetime subscription. I get in the Beta and build up a bunch of gold that we get to keep into release that I would pass out to my buddies. Then, it opens and they all changed their minds and didn’t buy the game.

I think I just have major burnout on MMOs. After years of SWG/FFXI/WOW/LOTRO I enjoy the single player games like DA, ME2 and Skyrim much more. MMOs require too much coordination and scheduling with too many people. It’s too much like work for me.

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why I like the idea behing GW2. No hard trinity. Lots of dynamic, pickup world events. Skills change based on weapons. Lots of opportunities for swapping. Doesn’t feel like as much of a commitment as you see with standard grinding into raiding. Yo could call it more pick-up friendly.

I guess WoW is going for that with Diablo 3 and MoP, but it doesn’t feel quite so gimmicky. Maybe that’s only because it’s new, but I like what I have seen.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

WoW=Blizzard? Or is WoW different now?

by Daver321 on Feb 29, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Er, yeah. That’s what I meant. WTB proofreader.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That or ArchAge online.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Meanwhile, Madison Bumgarner’s projected FIP is 3.09. Also, Madison Bumgarner is 22.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope he wins the Cy Young this year

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

But think of how expensive that will make him!

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That would make four Cy Young winners who started for the 2009 Giants.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Cain winning would also do that.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

His lack of WINZ means that he will always be a third highest vote getter at best. Until he is on the Yankees.

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 29, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

nah

There’s no way he would be able to win one in the AL.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I look forward to hearing JoPo talk about baseball more often again.
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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

Is he associated with Los Pollos Hermanos?

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by Murray, Present on Feb 29, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

according to a Knoxville friend they are under a “tornado watch” until 1am. I forget how those work…watch means it might happen, warning means it will happen?

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:18 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah. I think tornado warning = oh shit, tornado/funnel cloud spotted. We had one of those go off last year; it was entirely too exciting for my taste.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess looking at Wikipedia it looks like it’s just degrees of likelihood, with warning = much more likely/imminent, but not necessarily that a tornado has been spotted.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Rather than tornado being spotted a warning can mean they see something ominous on the dopler radar, etc.

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by Lunkus on Feb 29, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Most warnings are radar-indicated.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Makes sense.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

these people got hit in those bad tornadoes, when was that? last year? and she just moved back into her rebuilt house. So I guess that it is “only” a watch is a good thing.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Good luck TL2

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by 49er16 on Feb 29, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Truly!

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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 29, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

so wait

am I reading this right? the little pink triangle dealie is a tornado?

what is a Tornado Vortex Signature? [yes I’ll go look it up for myself, but I thought maybe there were some weather nerds here]

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Existence of a TVS strongly increases the probability of tornado occurrence, but does not guarantee it

damn meteorologists must work for Kaiser.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

A TVS is an algorithm radar software uses to flag a particular area of a thunderstorm for closer inspection. It indicates what’s called a velocity couplet, which is an area of rotation within a thunderstorm.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

All of a sudden, it occurred to me that A. That’s the area where some people I know are and B. Harrisburg is where some of them live…

by Hyoton on Feb 29, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

There are apparently 2 tvs’s in the area now. One in Knoxville.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

now that one is back to being a yellow diamond and there’s a pink triangle someplace else.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Blerg

Just had a co-worker break down crying at my desk because her dad is in the hospital. I am not good with that stuff. I just kind of froze and she stood there for a minute and then walked away.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

A hug is often prescribed in that sort of situation. Or a small gesture to show that you care.

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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 29, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

or even just an “I’m sorry to hear that, is there anything I can do to help?”
those situations can be terribly awkward.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

In retrospect that is what I should have done/said.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

A hug was my first instinct but it would have been super awkward. Before I could think of anything to say she left.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I like to do things like buy people muffins. It doesn’t solve the problem, obviously, but most people appreciate a good muffin.

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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 29, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If I could have conjured up a hot muffin with some butter for her I definitely would have.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

but most people appreciate a good muffin.

/nods

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus, a hug now, can turn into a harassment claim later.

How about a simple, “There, there”?

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Go find her with a bottle or glass of water or a box of kleenex and ask if there’s anything you can do to help?

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

She’s gone home now but I’ll be sure to tell her that tomorrow.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Just talk about how bad it was when your animal last went to the vet or something.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Anything happen today other than some boring soccer game?

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

I’m trying to figure out how to classify debts owed to CMISP and am having trouble finding a definitive guideline.

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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 29, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Davy Jones died.
There are tornado warnings in Knoxville

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm bummed about Davy

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, and 66 seems so young. I mean he was still performing and was active, from what I’ve read anyway.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

i read he performed on feb 19 :(

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

very sad

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was strange one of the classic rock stations placed a Monkees song then they announced Jones died.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt is going to start in AAA.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 29, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

who?

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

A fantastic football match.

Cake v. Pie turned ugly.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That's because the cake committee wasn't there

We’re usually the most civil in the discussion. Our official standing:

Bread is not cake. Pizza is pie. Cookies are cakes. Pancakes are cakes. Doughnuts are cakes. Muffins too.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

"Cake is not a exclusive or exclusionary brand."

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

pizza is not pie

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 6:21 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Number 3 is factually incorrect.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

/nods

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

cookies are cakes

just difference in density

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 6:24 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Call for references. Support this statement with actual fact, please.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

No, this is not true.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Find me any dictionary that does NOT define “cookie” as a small cake.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Luckily, dictionaries are not authoritative on cooking technique. Etymologically the words are related, but the ingredients and methods used are distinct.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Precisely.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll take the definition of a word for $500, Alex.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

"This confectionary sweet is inferior to pie."

“What is cake?”

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

I mean…

/throws brick

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

And I think you are pigeonholing the term “cake” into your own definition of the term.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, I am mainly influenced by Michael Ruhlman’s definitions.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

For the purposes of a cake vs. pie discussion, I think a certain definition should apply. Not the broadest one possible. That makes any discussion meaningless (because otherwise it’s very very important).

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

This is some World War I shit going on right here.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It was mostly tongue in cheek.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m using my Stephen Colbert voice as I type this out.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

NO! COOKIES ARE NOT CAKES! SMALL CAKES ARE CUPCAKES OR PETIT FOURS OR SOMETHING, BUT IN NO WAY ARE THEY COOKIES!!!

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

There are many forms of small cakes. You can’t contain the deliciousness. Cake has no boundaries.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You are blinded by your prejudice.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Your tastebuds are lying to you.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, the CIA.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

If cake has no boundaries

then everything is cake?

IMO, cookies are biscuits, neither cake nor pie.

by QuakeFan on Feb 29, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, but it's fun anyway.

WHAT SAY YOU, TARTS? YOU EITHER STAND WITH PIE, OR YOU STAND AGAINST PIE.

Maybe more Peloponnesian War.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh sure, let’s just drop the term cake down to the crappy red velvet cake our Aunt Esther made for our 11th birthday party that tasted extra bitter by the fact that we got a frickin GOBOT when all of our friends brought their Transformers to play with at the party.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

What the? As a member of the cake committee, I say that only the first statement is true. The rest are horse pucky.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Calling pizza not a pie is like calling cheesecake not a cake.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

confused

because cheesecake is not cake. Just like Boston Cream Pie is not a pie

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 6:31 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Sure

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 29, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this breaking?
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — The Arizona Diamondbacks and catcher Miguel Montero say they have ended talks on a multiyear contract until after this season, when he will be a free agent.

The two sides have been in talks in recent weeks but general manager Kevin Towers said no agreement could be reached.

Link

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

Unironically breaking

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

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No surprise at all if Bumgarner is slotted in rotation between Lincecum and Cain. Past three years, Lincecum started opener, Cain started game 3 and a lefty started game 2: Sanchez in ’11, Zito in ’10, Big Unit in ’09. #SFGiants

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

CAIN IS A THIRD STARTER AT BEST

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Pointless Bochyism

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants do a ton of rageworthy things

This is not at all one of them.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup.

And Bumgarner before Cain is way more defensible than Sanchez or Zito before Cain.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

It’s almost certainly going to make no difference, but there’s a minuscule chance that it could lead to Madison Bumgarner getting one extra start instead of Matt Cain. I wouldn’t be bothered by that.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Zito Before Cain

sounds like a sci-fi title.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Or a grammerr rule.

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 4:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing.

K before BB, except after Z.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I am ok with it

Just amazed that it was like this the last 3 years straight from opening days on.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

R-L-R-L-Wellemeyer.

Also, ’09 was Randy Johnson.

’08 had Timmy and Cain back to back, but only because Zito was the opening day starter.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Zito.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

John Shea

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This would be the first year Barry Zito opens a #SFGiants season as the fifth starter. First five years of his $126 mil contract, he was slotted first, first, fourth, second and fourth. Giants lost four of those five.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Gaaaahhh!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 5:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I turned on KNBR this afternoon. Fitz and Brooks was on. Fitz said “Bruce Bochy doesn’t favor veterans.” I did a facepalm and quickly turned the station.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 4:50 PM PST reply actions  

He should just go back to being ignorant about basketball.

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by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 4:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Completely misogynistic and shallow post

hottest baseball wives and girlfriends

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

Checks to see what website this is...

…notice what it is. Does not click link.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

One question: Is it a slideshow?

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Bleacher Rep-oh, never mind.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Latos GF looks exactly how I would envision his GF

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Stripper.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 29, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

pregnant and holding a can of PBR?

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad tattoos, lots of makeup, and bleach blonde hair

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

she sounds like a real mercenary

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by RDreamer on Feb 29, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Bleacher Report?

Yeah. No.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

If anybody has the chance, rec the Merope update thread to keep it on top so that we could easily find the Twitter account for updates.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 5:14 PM PST reply actions  

Can you give a link, please?

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Feb 29, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It's under recent fanshots

But here it is: http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2012/2/29/2832762/merope-updates

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

For those who defend the Warriors cutting Jeremy Lin

I turned on the game and see Nate Robinson brick a terrible shot. If Nate Robinson gets minutes, then Jeremy Lin would have been useful

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 5:16 PM PST reply actions  

okay

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Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

:l

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by slackersphere17 on Feb 29, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Robinson was brought in after the season started

lin was cut before the season started in an attempt to clear money in order to sign deandre jordan

it wasnt robinson or lin

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems like a lot of terrible moves were made in the name of

We think we MIGHT get Deandre Jordan

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah thats kind of the warriors mo

a lot of terrible moves

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it's more symbolic of the Warriors' complete stupidity and irrelevance

Of course the guy they cut becomes literally (Chris Traeger) a worldwide phenomenon.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 29, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

This reminds me of the “We could have had Aaron Rodgers instead of Alex Smith” argument. Lin is almost certainly better off in D’Antoni’s system than Mark Jackson’s. Even if we lost Curry for the season, Lin probably wouldn’t have gotten a ton of minutes and looks in Oakland.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Except we could have had Aaron Rodgers over Alex Smith

And Rodgers would have been better. Period.

Would Lin on the Warriors have become “Linsanity.” Maybe not. But he would have had value given how the team ended up being constructed

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

except that alex > rodgers

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

chasm?

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

pack lost to the giants in regulation

49ers lost in ot

science!

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, well played

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

SCIENCE!

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 29, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Except we could have had Aaron Rodgers over Alex Smith
And Rodgers would have been better. Period.

This is the same side of the argument as in the Lin scenario. Both appear obvious at first blush, but that’s only if you hold all else equal. Which is imposible.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Again

I never said Lin would have become Linsanity with the Warriors. I said he would have been useful given that we now have Nate Robinson playing, who sucks.

Alex Smith could never be what Aaron Rodgers is now. If you think he could have been, I can’t help you. Smith doesn’t have the physical tools that Rodgers does.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Not my assertion.

It’s been argued that Rodgers would have been worse off with the Niners than he has turned out to be with the Packers. Worse teammates and no time to develop.

Lin probably would have been worse off staying with the Warriors than has turned out to be with the Knicks. Bad system for him and less opportunity to develop.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Billy Ripken: Posey NL MVP

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 5:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Giants are his choice to go to the World Series.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

at least come back player of the year. at least.
there’s an award nobody sets out to be eligible for!

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Vogelsong didn’t win last year, so I’m not sure what that award means.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Many feel that it’s not possible to ‘come back’ to a place one has never been, and while my vote would have been Vogey, I can see their point.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I could see that

It would hold more water for me if he were a career minor leaguer getting his first chance; it’s not as if Ryan Vogelsong was never a major league starter before 2011.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I still find the Berkman argument a little ridiculous.

Berkman OPS+:
2009 – 140
2010 – 112
2011 – 166

Sandoval OPS+:
2009 – 144
2010 – 99
2011 – 153

In his “abyss year,” he was still 12% better than the rest of the league. Berkman won because he had 100 uninspiring PAs with the Yankees.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, fuck that big-faced half-a-Yankee bastard.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

/pandering to TL2

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Berkman is definitely a galoot.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Berkman is ugggggggly.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You are now dead to TL2

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

/TL2 doodles speckops as a zombie

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

???

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe you misunderstand.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t TL2 like Berkman?

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

no

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I only do it because I love you all.

Repent before it is too late.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, his OPS+ was 30 points lower with them. And everyone remembered the meh Yankees Berkman who only hit from one side because nobody cares about the Astros.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

true, but Posey’s story is a little more widely known. People will be watching from Day 1 in his case.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

If anyone on the team has a chance to be MVP, it’s Sandoval.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS

A .325 30 homer season is always possible

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems insane to me that he can see the ball better now because of the Lasik surgery.

Like, he couldn’t see rotation on the ball before? And he can see it now? That’s terrifying! I feel like that pisses on most “performance enhancer” purist arguments by itself.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

“MADRE DEL DIOS that’s what a strike zone looks like!”

/kills the shit out of the ball

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by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 29, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Lincecum

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by slackersphere17 on Feb 29, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s hard to win MVP when you’re mediocre.

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by jhawx on Feb 29, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that what we're calling pitchers these days?

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah.

I doubt he’ll even be a top 5 candidate for the Cy Young next season.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Pill!

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Pill be an NL MVP when 749 players all go on DL.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I am really curious why the AL has to go on the DL as well.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Pill is so bad, they would give NL MVP to an NL player.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

er AL

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man, a monster year from a healthy Panda. Excuse me, I’ll be right back.
/fapping

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

make sure you clean that mess up when you are done!

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster Posey

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:16 PM PST reply actions  

Pablo is number 46, Matt Cain 44.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoops

Got it backwards. Reverse that so Cain is 46 at best.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Silly SFGuy.

48 and 18.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

did we talk about this
Tejada also said he thinks he can still play – he didn’t perform well with the Giants last year, he said, because he wasn’t happy there.

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There wasn't much "talking"
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MIGUEL TEJADA WANTS TO PLAY FOR THE A’S. I’LL GIVE EVERYONE A FEW SECONDS TO LAUGH HYSTERICALLY.

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Schulman tweeted

that the A’s accepts as long as Royce Clayton plays Tejada

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 6:28 PM PST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

Miggy, you didn’t peform well with the Giants because you are over the hill and now suck.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody was happy

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

We did a little in the previous post. I may had hinted that Tejada was an ass.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I also wondered if Bochy is the players’ coach he’s been made out to be, if so many people hate playing for the team.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The fact that they wait until they are no longer on the team supports the players’ manager view.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, has anyone said they hated playing for the team besides Rownads and Tehaha?

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by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 29, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Before Bochy: Jeff Juden

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

If a Garko bitches, and nobody's around to give him an NRI, does it make a sound?

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

If Sizemore hitches, and nobody’s around to give him an MRI, does he still go on the DL?

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

/Tejada does spotlight

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck Tejada, and fuck Rowand. I knew all the talk of them being “stand-up guys” was bullshit. Now I can hate them like I always wanted to.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rather not fuck them. Thank you very much.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

30 rock

Just watched the Leap Day episode on Hulu. So they got Jim Carrey and Andie McDowell to appear for a few seconds in a fictional movie.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 6:23 PM PST reply actions  

Jim Carrey's awesomeness is inversely proportional to the number of projects he is involved with.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked the “It’s Leap Day, it doesn’t count” theme of the ep though. The meh class I had today? Doesn’t count.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Good Rosenthal article on the new playoff format.. He was originally a doubter too
Winning the division should matter, shouldn’t it? But too often under the current system, the cushion of the wild card deterred division leaders from giving maximum effort in the season’s final days.

Yankees general manager Brian Cashman offered a damning indictment earlier this spring, saying his team conceded the AL East to the Tampa Bay Rays two years ago because the format reduced the meaning of the division title to "nothing more than a t-shirt and a hat."

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/expanded-mlb-playoffs-give-more-teams-hope-force-contenders-to-compete-at-end-of-season-022912

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:24 PM PST reply actions  

Again, I’m not convinced that winning your division should mean having an advantage over a wildcard team that finishes with a better record. If they fixed it so that was 3 division winners and 2 wildcards with the fourth and fifth seeded team going to the play-in series/game, that would be better.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

How would you feel about HFA and seeding based purely on record?

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The latter was what I was saying I was for—HFA I could see going to the division winner or the #4th seed in that priority.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really see a good reason why divisional rivals can’t play in the DS, either. The worse team has to “earn the right” to play the team that outpaced them? Something like that?

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess—I’m really not sure if there was any logic behind it.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Seeing the word “seeding” applied to baseball gives me hives.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mind it with four teams.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather keep the status quo.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

\o

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Blergh.
I’m pretty sure I’d hate that.

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by waelwulf on Feb 29, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather keep the current system as is. But if they’re going to insist on a second wildcard team, I see no reason why the play-in game should on average be between the third and fifth best teams.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the trademarks of a conservative is the impulse to legally/structurally uphold and buttress informal institutions.
In light of that, I suppose I have a conservative streak in me when it comes to baseball.
I think Winning The Division matters, and that it should be protected if necessary.

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by waelwulf on Feb 29, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think not having a third of the teams making the playoffs matters far more.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, yes, I didn’t want expanded playoffs in the first place.
But here we are.

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by waelwulf on Feb 29, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I think both of you are right

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

…so?

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You apparently don't care about divisions

I do. That’s where we diverge.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

burn

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by slackersphere17 on Feb 29, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

So you’re totally okay with putting another mediocre team in the playoffs and with the fifth-place team in a league winning the World Series. Reducing a whole season to one game? Totally fine. But heaven forfend the sacred divisions be debased!

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Besides your extreme examples

Pulled from an absurd year where an 102 win team didn’t win its division (which pretty much never happens), the Wild Card 1 and Wild Card 2 teams usually have pretty similar records

Last season’s Wild Card 1 and Wild Card 2 Records.

AL
Rays: 91-71
Red Sox: 90-72

NL
Cardinals: 90-72
Braves: 89-73

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure last thread someone pulled up data that Wild Card 1 was, on average, 4 games better than Wild Card 2.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Even if the difference were that small every year (it’s not), why should that one game be immaterial?

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is winning your division immaterial?

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure winning your division gets you in the playoffs and stuff.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

So did winning the Wild Card

As Cashman said a division title meant nothing. I don’t like that, especially with the unbalanced schedule.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

And the solution is to dilute the postseason with another team?

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see it as a dilution

I see an opportunity for an exciting one game playoff, division titles mattering, and then virtually the same system.

Seems awesome to me.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Allowing more and weaker teams into the playoffs is by definition diluting it

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

The addition of the 1st Wild Card (the system you are defending) diluted the playoffs.

The addition of two divisions diluted the playoffs as well.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Correct

And now this will dilute the playoffs again.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Now if we are talking about what you meant by dilution

And not the literal definition. My response is this

The expansion of the postseason will be only baseball’s second since 1969 and first since ‘95. The ratio of qualifiers — 10 of 30 — still will be the lowest of any major professional sport.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

And the highest in baseball history. Nineteen years ago, it was 4 of 28.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I think 4 of 28 is unreasonably low. There’s no reason to follow your team after about June for more than half of the teams in the league.

8 out of 30 was just right.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Before expansion it was always 4 out of 16, no?

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

2 out of 16

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy shit that’s right. No divisions…

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Some really meaningless baseball games being played.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

They still had a league championship. So, 4 teams.

Shot Heard Round the World, and all that.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

nope

That was a three-game playoff because the Giants and Dodgers were tied.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Same thing happened in 1962; both teams ended up playing 165 games that year.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Fun Fact

Both game clinchers in ’51 and ’62 were on October 3rd and the Giants scored 4 runs in the 9th to win both games.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I would imagine that Jimmy Davenport’s walk was a little bit less dramatic than Bobby Thompson’s home run.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

No one is screaming “HE WALKED!”

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Reposted verbatim because y'all seem intent on missing this:

Linked from here:

In the 32-league seasons since the wildcard was implemented (1995-2010), the average W% for the best team in the league is .620. The second-best division winner averages .583, the third-best .556. The wildcard team is .573 on average, while the team that would be the second wildcard averages .548.

So D1 > D2 > W1 > D3 > W2. The difference is about 4 games. That doesn’t seem particularly close.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

With apologies to Azmanz and Solidarity.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't particularly care about this

An 82 win team can win their division. So what’s the difference?

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

At least a couple of reasons. First, that’s much, much rarer than an 82 win team winning the second wildcard. Second, in a five team system, there’s no way that an 82 division-winning team should not have to be in the play-in series over two 88 or 90 win wildcards. That’s asinine.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

if you can’t win 90+, then go home

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by son of ggf on Feb 29, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

how about everyteam that wins 90 games go into the playofffs

some years there is just three
others their could be 5

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems like you'd prefer just an AL and NL

And Top 4 records from each league go in. That’s awful.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather keep the status quo.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahah!

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

But the status quo

Has issues with teams with far inferior records making the playoffs.

If an 82-85 win team wins its division its placed on equal footing with far better teams, record wise. In this situation a 82-85 win Wild Card 2 team that team has to play a one game playoff to move on and is at far more disadvantage then the 82-85 game division winner.

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

i hate it that so much focus at the end of the season is now on the worst teams in the hunt

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by son of ggf on Feb 29, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That is literally always going to be the case.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

A common consequence of having teams in the hunt at all.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

There will be this

But also greater importance and focus on division races

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The obvious solution is to only have good teams in the hunt.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve read this a couple of times, and I think the point is still eluding me.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

The idea is that the one game is a winner-take-all, so the wild card team (in theory) has to throw their best pitcher out there, putting them at a disadvantage heading into the divisional series against an even better team.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

So in theory, the wild card team that does survive is at a disadvantage even if they make it in to the divisional round, raising the likelihood that they will be bounced out before the World Series.

Personally, I’d rather just force the wild card to play a 2-1-2 against the best team or something.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

This sentence
Second, in a five team system, there’s no way that an 82 division-winning team should not have to be in the play-in series over two 88 or 90 win wildcards.

Seems to indicate that you have an issue with record disparity.

My point was that if Wild Card 2 has this record disparity they are at a significant disadvantage. A shitty division winner has no disadvantage

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, I think I see.

I think that a shitty division winner should be penalized just as much as a shitty wildcard team.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Bravely fighting that strawman

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Do not go gentle into that good thread

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Rage, rage against the death of the unsaid.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that works perfectly.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess my BA has to be good for something.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

And this was hurting who?
But too often under the current system, the cushion of the wild card deterred division leaders from giving maximum effort in the season’s final days.

I guess if they were playing another playoff contender maybe? But how many of them will own up to slacking it in a series like that?

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagine the Yankees would call it “getting their team ready for the Division Series.” Lining up starters, resting vets, etc.

It’s common practice in the NFL, after all. Just only after they’ve clinched HFA or a bye.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I am ok with the additional playoff team, provided they don't continue down the NBA path

but not a fan of the play in game.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to like it, but now that it’s here I am more wary.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to like it, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The fans. They pay to see real baseball. Also, gamblers. They are supposed to be betting on actual contests. Plus, the children. Think about the children.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

hehe

This makes me laugh more than it should.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yay warriors

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 6:54 PM PST reply actions  

With the release of the At Bat App today, I just learned something new

(BREAKING?)
Finally, MLB told us about a new “At The Ballpark” app coming on Opening Day 2012. The app will expand on the features offered in the At Bat app last year and will offer maps to concession stands, emergency exits and more at ballparks, as well as a geolocated check-in service. Individual clubs can offer seat upgrades, special offers and food discounts to app users. Some clubs even offer mobile food ordering from the app, and can deliver food right to your seat.

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

neat

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

EVERYONE LOVES MAPS!

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 29, 2012 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I investimagated At Bat to see what would be part of the free “lite” version….almost nothing :(
and by almost nothing I mean JUST SCORES! of course the “good stuff” (live audio, gameday, stats, live lookins, in game highlights…so basically EVERYTHING ELSE besides scores) you must still pay for…
/le sigh

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by SoCalGgal on Feb 29, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I think paying $15 is outrageous, and yet I do it. Year after year.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I love at bat.

Do I have to start over again, or will it just update at bat 11?

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I had to download a new app, but then again, I switched from iPod to my Android phone.

I suspect it would be a new purchase and download though; that’s what I did moving from 10 to 11.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, you have to re-up every year and I’m sorry $15 for a phone app? no thanks! this year I’m putting that $$$ towards Extra Innings, cuz I’d rather watch more games with y’all than listen to a glitchy, delayed At Bat feed and miss all the fun ;)
I will miss the velvet tones of Dave Flemming tho

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by SoCalGgal on Feb 29, 2012 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't get KNBR at my house or work

so it’s worth every penny to me.

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m hoping this is how it’ll work for us. and $15 for the whole season isn’t horrible.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I pay the $15 for when I’m somewhere I can’t listen to the radio, and also for when I’m out of town and want to listen to my guys. It’s worth the money for me just to be able to listen to games during our week in Hawaii.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

but don’t you both get games on your tv boxes? I don’t :(
I’m a visual learner lol

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by SoCalGgal on Feb 29, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

no tv in the bedroom.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

me either! :) tv stays in the living room, where living happens (or something)

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by SoCalGgal on Feb 29, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Its a hard & fast rule in our house.

But we’ve been known to watch Netflix on the computer in bed.

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, we have a little dvd player that lives in the bedroom, but usually we only watch sitcoms on that.

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by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I usually put on classic Disney movies (shocking, I know) Alice in Wonderland, Lady & the Tramp, Aristocats, Dumbo, The Rescuers… :)

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by SoCalGgal on Feb 29, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t worry, I won’t tell on ya! :D
Netflix is an anomaly to me…I have satellite, why would I need Netflix?

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by SoCalGgal on Feb 29, 2012 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s one of my rules. For us, and for the kids.

Although the oldest does watch the occasional Netflix on her Nintendo 3DS while in her room.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

what is this, I don’t even….
(thanks, I needed a good chuckle!) :)

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by SoCalGgal on Feb 29, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

At least there’s no blackout rules for radio!

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Do they have something like this for NFL?

I’ve looked, but have not found anything. Instead I stream the games for free. But I’d rather hear Ted Robinson

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Through Verizon 4G LTE, I got an NFL app that was pretty cool. I think it gave me radio feeds, but I can’t be sure. But it was a Verizon 4G LTE exclusive, I think.

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

They are wonderful.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Sporcle-orcle-orcle: Giants 40-man roster.

How many can you get? I got 37.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/EvanWill/2012-san-francisco-giants-spring-training-

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

Bah

Only 34

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I missed minor leaguers that I should have remembered

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

34 here too

Only missed one guy I really feel stupid about.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 29, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

31. Only 1 guy I feel bad about (i.e. on the 25 man roster).

Holy shit our outfield depth is bad.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

We have Christian and Blanco in as NRIs, they’re just not on the 40-man. I suspect they’ll both accept assignment.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, and Brown lower down.

But still, yech.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m less worried about our outfield than our infield, non-first base division.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Why?

3B: Sandoval
SS: Sandoval
2B: Sandoval
1B: Posey

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You misspelled "Burriss"

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by jhawx on Feb 29, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel better now!

Thanks!

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Here, drink this koolaid!

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandoval has another brother?

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Pedro

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I think MLB Network/ESPN routinely misnamed him as Pedro Sandoval in ’09 and ’10.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

this kid!

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by slackersphere17 on Feb 29, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The greatest sport athlete of all time

- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = *sigh* Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US??? The ny giants sadly =(
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by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

i only got 29 before i started cheating lol

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

i had no idea Roger Kieschnick was on the 40 man roster

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by jponry on Feb 29, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too!

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually got him and missed a few obvious ones.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 29, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i remember but couldnt spell his damn name

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by operation carrot on Feb 29, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I missed him. Don’t feel too bad about the two others, either.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

36

Missed Kieschnick, Graham, Correa, and Otero

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I missed Kieschnick, Peguero, Graham, Correa, Edlefsen, Culberson

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Kieschnick, Correa, Villalona

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like I should’ve had that last one, given how much we’ve talked about it.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel less bad because I was thinking about the people in camp.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Hah, true.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Surkamp I feel stupid about

Otherwise Kieschnick, Graham, Correa, Otero, and Adrianza. I guess I shoulda had Adrianza but it never crossed my mind that he’d be on the 40.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 29, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I missed Casilla. Whoops.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I cheated to get Casilla, so my 27 really ought to be 26. I could only think “Jairo Garcia” but I figured that I deserved this one.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Wuuuuh? you remembered his fake name but not his real name?

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, why not. We probably use it in jest more than his actual name.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

38

Forgot about Kieschnick (who?) and Culberson (LOL!)

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by jhawx on Feb 29, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

31

Woulda had 32 but I thought it was “Gillespie”

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Blanco is not on the ST roster?

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a misleading title.

They mean the 40-man roster.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Only 27. Theriot and Burriss I should have got, but it’s been a long day and my brain isn’t working.

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

36/37

Who the hell is Brandon Belt?

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

31/37 really

Somehow I forgot Crawford and Runzler, the rest I don’t feel bad about.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Some scrub

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by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

29/40

I would of got more if they recognized first name’s, people like me cant spell last name’s well

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by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

same score here!
I spent 30 seconds trying to spell Nate’s last name correctly without peeking LOL ME
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by SoCalGgal on Feb 29, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

villalona is on the roster?

What the hell

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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 29, 2012 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically the Giants are appeasing him so he won't sue.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

They could have just released him, no?

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by Johnny Disaster on Mar 1, 2012 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, what a night.

I got called back into the office to file for the Newscast Unit on the storm damage/fatalities here in Tennessee. I just got off the phone with a producer for a Q&A that I guess will be cycled into the newscasts and Thursday’s Morning Edition.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

How close are you to the storms?

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ve been gone for a couple of hours. There’s an isolated tornado warning to our northwest in association with a broken line of storms, but nothing else.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Great. Hopefully nothing is forecast any time soon.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

We just got a new tornado warning. I’m going back on air.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

You are like an intrepid NPR adventurer!

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

How’d the Q&A go?

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Went well. I’d never done one for the network before. I stupidly forgot to ask how they’d use the material, but I suspect it will be used as drop-ins in the overnight newscasts and on Morning Edition.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m really tempted to run out to my car at the top of the hour in a couple of hours.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It’ll be on sometime after midnight ET. And, as I said, likely on the Eastern and Central Time feeds of ME, so you may catch it anyway.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Hah.

I’m a night owl. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I’ve heard Morning Edition in the past three years.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I never get to hear the overnight newscasts. If you hear any of my material tonight, lemme know.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I will.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, looks like the first piece airs in the 12:01 ET newscast.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Stay safe, TL2!

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Oooh, that’s soon.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You have my undying admiration.

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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 29, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Shift A

Why do they have Harold Reynolds doing the top 100 right now program? Is it really that hard to see how much of an idiot he is?

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 7:50 PM PST reply actions  

Sometime tells me those countdowns are also different than the ones hosted by Brian Kenny.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Did anyone else hear Gary Brown on KNBR this morning?

I did a giant facepalm when he mentioned that the things he’s been working on most for spring training are his bunting and base-running.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 7:54 PM PST reply actions  

That stuff is important.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, not bunting. But the other stuff.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a guy with his speed and reputed low SLG can make bunting for hits (and infielders playing in) a productive part of the toolset.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Forcing infielders to play in should help his BABIP.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s all game theory. If he’s got a reputation of a burner and a bunter, it makes sense for him to bunt way less than he otherwise would.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, it’s reactionary. If the infielders are playing in, he should swing away. If they’re playing back on him, his odds go way up for bunting successfully.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Although, to keep them honest, sometimes you have to bunt even when they’re in. You just do it way less often than you otherwise would.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked Rafael Furcal’s swinging bunt. Get the ball over the 3rd basemen.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. But that’s all the more incentive to practice it. A good bunt can beat a defense.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

See Ford, Darren in re stealing bases

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s rarely the sort of thing you want a productive hitter to do.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It often worked out when Torres did it.

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Only because most productive hitters aren’t fast enough to justify bunting.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Every time you lay a bunt down, you remove any possibility of getting a walk or an extra-base hit; essentially, all bunters are Emmanuel Burriss. You have to be very, very good at bunting for a hit for it to make sense.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

To have an .800 OPS, one would have to reach base a full two-fifths of the time.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Ichiro’s bunt success rate is 50%. Which means it’s had a positive impact on his OBP, probably even after you factor in generously classified sac bunts. And OBP is weighted as more important than SLG.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Ichiro actually bunts very little considering how good he is at it.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s part of why he’s so successful, I would think.

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by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it probably is.

Which probably is indicative that there’s not a ton of room to make bunting a large part of a successful offensive skillset.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Being a good, fast bunter makes your other tools better.

It’s like the threat of the on-deck hitter, except it actually works.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Can it still be a good weapon? Yeah. Is it as important as everything else? Probably not.

In general, players are pretty smart when they bunt in non-sacrifice situations.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Again, I think the value of bunting is not as great as the value of the threat of bunting.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

would you say the same of stealing 2nd?

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a good stealer, especially a good volume stealer, gets plenty of value on their own.

I don’t imagine the added value they get from the occasional forced error is equivalent to the value you probably get from keeping the defense on the infield grass. Especially if a RHB like Brown can bunt to his pull side.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

In one of those “Tony LaRussa is God” books, LaRussa talked about having Pujols bunt a few times during the season just to freak out other managers with the idea Pujols would bunt. Part of me thinks that’s crazy and part of me thinks that’s just crazy enough to work.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Part of being a good bunter is picking your spots. Again, it’s a reactionary skill.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder how he portions them out.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That could be why they’re having people practice bunting, because this team is pretty bad at it. Can’t remember how many bunts were either bungled or wound up with the guy at 2nd being the out

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

All the same, I irrationally love the Chris Stewart drag bunts.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Huff nearly bunting for a hit in Game 5 was probably my favorite bunt of all time.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I really loved it, too.

Bunts are only good when you don’t see them coming. Like bouncing the ball off a guy’s head while inbounding in basketball.

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. I hate sacrificing, and I loved it at the time. It was so unexpected and well executed that it very nearly worked. It took some great fielding just to get him at first.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I love guys who bunt against the shift.

It’s a great “fuck you.”

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

If Bonds had done that, he probably could’ve had an extra 10-15 hits a year. 5 from bunting, 10 from not grounding out to RF.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember he did this once at home vs. Oakland. Bunting down the 3rd base line. Easily made it to 1st.

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by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s one of those crazy things where if he hit it hard enough, he could almost make it to second.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Ortiz has done it a couple times. I love that shit.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Bunt against the shift, I mean. No clue about the doubles.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Guys who tend to get shifted against tend not to be very fast, so I doubt it’s ever happened.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

Also, I just looked up the bunt hit leaders for 2011. First is Pierre (of course) with 23 and a bad success rate.

Third is Bourjos with 17 and a 44% success rate. Those bunts accounted for about 10% of his times reaching base.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, he did call in to KNBR

It’s part of the script.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL bunting

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

If it helps him get on base and into scoring position, I won’t complain.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

He has the speed to bunt for a hit.

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by Deleuzian on Feb 29, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, exactly.

Freddy Sanchez bunting: dumb.
Gary Brown bunting: good if done well.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

True, but he specifically said those two things, nothing else. It gave me an image in my head of the entire ST roster spending days on end practicing bunting and base running, nothing else.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

GET AWAY FROM THE BAT RACK, ROOKIE!!

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 29, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, he’s probably only faced live pitching twice so far.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I am sorry

we’re complaining about what the Giants are working on in ST? What about their stretching routine? Pre-game meals?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 8:02 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I'm with you.

Why the fuck shouldn’t they practice all aspects of the game, especially in the first two weeks?

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by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I should have specified why I facepalmed
True, but he specifically said those two things, nothing else. It gave me an image in my head of the entire ST roster spending days on end practicing bunting and base running, nothing else.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a problem at all. It’s about emphasis.

Admittedly, it’s probably just a soundbite.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Fucking “Community” coffee. And Powerade over Gatorade. Don’t get me started on the sandwich tray.

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that you mention it, he said he ate a churro a day in SJ because he loved them so much. That can’t be good.

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They are awesome!

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by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It good to hear that he is practicing his sac bunting

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by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

i did

But I must have missed the bunting comment…

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by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa

For some reason it just hit me: You can have 3 teams from one division make the playoffs.

I am so stupid.

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by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 8:06 PM PST reply actions  

The Blue Jays are still fucked.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 29, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

They should merge with the Rays. They can be the Blu-Rays.

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by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

/rimshot

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Aaaaaand rec.

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by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Blue Jays

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by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

MLB really wants the NYY and BOS in the playoffs often

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by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Now those assholes in Tampa Bay won’t be able screw things up!

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by jhawx on Feb 29, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

how hilarious would it be if NYY and BOS went into a weird "team is terrible" phase

where they are the 2 worst teams in the division for like 20 years…I bet MLB and Fox would either A) Shit themselves B) make new rules to get them into the playoffs

by ir1shgiant on Feb 29, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m really hoping that the post-Boss Yankees manage to fall to mediocrity. Like, sign the exact wrong couple big contracts and spend the declining years of A-Rod, Sabathia & Texeira muddling around .500.

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 29, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

but imagine what would happen if the Sox and the Yankees were the two teams that had to do the play-in.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 29, 2012 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

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Andrew Susac models himself after Buster Posey: Throwin' darts and breakin' hearts.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.

by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a reason I didn’t post it myself.

/clicks SL

Andrew Susac models himself after Buster Posey: Throwin' darts and breakin' hearts.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.

by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

MLB: “ZOMG GUIES THE RATINGS”

- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = *sigh* Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US??? The ny giants sadly =(
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.

by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

OH MY GOD BILLY RIPKEN HAS THE WORST IDEA EVER

Adopted parent of future Giants starting SS Ryan "The Riot" Theriot. Just you wait.
Twitter

by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 8:09 PM PST reply actions  

Trade Lincecum 4 Alex Rodriguez?

Proud Papa of right-hander Clayton Blackburn whose pro debut made him look like one of the steals of the 2012 draft, as he allowed just six runs in 33 1/3 innings in the rookie-level Arizona League. Signed by Giants area scout (and former big leaguer) Dan Murray in the 16th round, Blackburn would touch 94-95 mph, sitting in the low 90s, with good feel for locating the pitch, and both his curveball and changeup project as above-average pitches.

by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

New baseball format.

15 teams in each league.
No divisions
DH in both leagues
157 game season, or something around there.
Play each team in your league 8 times
Play each team in the opposite league 3 times.

His rationale:

THE BIGGEST DRAW IN BASEBALL ARE THE YANKEES, NOW THEY PLAY EVERY TEAM IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE 45 TIMES! EVERY OTHER YEAR, THEY COME TO YOUR TOWN!
PLUS NOW THEY ONLY PLAY THE RED SOX 8 TIMES!
AND NO MORE PITCHERS HIT
BALANCE!

IT’S FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD!

Adopted parent of future Giants starting SS Ryan "The Riot" Theriot. Just you wait.
Twitter

by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Gross

Proud Papa of right-hander Clayton Blackburn whose pro debut made him look like one of the steals of the 2012 draft, as he allowed just six runs in 33 1/3 innings in the rookie-level Arizona League. Signed by Giants area scout (and former big leaguer) Dan Murray in the 16th round, Blackburn would touch 94-95 mph, sitting in the low 90s, with good feel for locating the pitch, and both his curveball and changeup project as above-average pitches.

by DFARowand on Feb 29, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

But Derek Jeter, the greatest baseball player in the MLB would be on our tv's

- Derek Jeter
- Shadows

awwww. i can see it now

- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = *sigh* Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US??? The ny giants sadly =(
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.

by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Bobby Valentine was just unfamiliar with the fact that team do things besides run their fucking mouth all day during Spring Training.

Andrew Susac models himself after Buster Posey: Throwin' darts and breakin' hearts.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.

by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Though, we probably wouldn’t hear about that crap if it weren’t for the OMGYANKS and OMGSAWX

Giant Dirtbags: :(
David B. Flemming is Diamond Certified.

by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, the former ESPN thing, too.

Showalter was running his mouth around this time last year, too.

Andrew Susac models himself after Buster Posey: Throwin' darts and breakin' hearts.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.

by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

THATS WHY HE IS DA BEST

- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = *sigh* Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US??? The ny giants sadly =(
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.

by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Play each team in your league 7 times,

plus a home-and-away agains the Lakers, Celtics, and Heat!

Andrew Susac models himself after Buster Posey: Throwin' darts and breakin' hearts.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.

by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

And Bulls!

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Feb 29, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That's Bull.

Andrew Susac models himself after Buster Posey: Throwin' darts and breakin' hearts.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.

by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s the one Giants supporter on MLB Network

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, Reynolds likes the NL West and the Giants in particular.

Andrew Susac models himself after Buster Posey: Throwin' darts and breakin' hearts.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.

by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I just heard he predicted the Giants to make it to the WS. The man is obviously a genius and I support this idea.

Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.

by ResDog on Feb 29, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

this?

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"

by slackersphere17 on Feb 29, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Patrick does have some really bad ideas.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = *sigh* Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US??? The ny giants sadly =(
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.

by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

forgot sl, my bad

- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = *sigh* Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US??? The ny giants sadly =(
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.

by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

ahahahaha

I tore the roof off the house for my son Chuckie Jones.
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 29, 2012 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s too bad that show sucks now.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

havent watched it in a very long time

but I’m sure they tried to crank up the weirdness like those cartoon network shows

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"

by slackersphere17 on Feb 29, 2012 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

not really

It’s just total shit.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 29, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha.

AJ Burnett fouled a bunt off his face today in batting practice.

Adopted parent of future Giants starting SS Ryan "The Riot" Theriot. Just you wait.
Twitter

by scout6 on Feb 29, 2012 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

Guess he needs more practice.

Proud parent of Gregor Blanco, the Mountain that Walks, MVP of the VWL.

by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

If he were still in the AL would this have happened? Do AL teams have their pitchers practice bunting in Spring Training?

by non sequitur on Feb 29, 2012 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

What is kind of crazy about the Posey game from last year is that Ross gunned Coghlan out at home in the 7th. The runner tried to do a fade style slide where just his hand would brush the plate, but Posey tagged him in time. That seemed like a more ideal timing play to try to cream the catcher than the Cousins play, to me.

Giant Dirtbags: :(
David B. Flemming is Diamond Certified.

by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 8:19 PM PST reply actions  

Coghlan wasn't trying to win a job.

Andrew Susac models himself after Buster Posey: Throwin' darts and breakin' hearts.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.

by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I realize that. ROY, etc…

Just a comment

Giant Dirtbags: :(
David B. Flemming is Diamond Certified.

by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, just giving one possible reason (of many).

Andrew Susac models himself after Buster Posey: Throwin' darts and breakin' hearts.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.

by Solidarity on Feb 29, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The Iditarod comes to a few blocks from my house on Saturday

Most exciting sporting event in Alaska!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive father of Enmanuel de Jesus.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.

by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 8:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

How much sun do you get these days (or actual daylight)?

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Its up to about 10 hours now.

It was still light out at about 6:30 tonight.

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive father of Enmanuel de Jesus.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.

by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 8:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That isn’t too bad.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

wow neat, you going to go see them?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep They leave Anchorage and come up here about 15 miles and stop…that’s the ceremonial start. Then they drive about 30 miles North for the Sunday re-start.

I love dogs and the sled dogs are freakin amazing and I get to meet a bunch of em.

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive father of Enmanuel de Jesus.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.

by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 8:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

that is super cool. Is there enough snow for them?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Feb 29, 2012 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we had record snowfall this year. But of course I’m a noob so to me its just “lotta fuckin snow in cold-ass Alaska.”

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive father of Enmanuel de Jesus.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.

by bigboneded on Feb 29, 2012 8:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

My boss when I was in high school had a son who won the thing a time or two. She was quite proud.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The Shat is on Colbert tonight.

Proud parent of Gregor Blanco, the Mountain that Walks, MVP of the VWL.

by Tortured on Feb 29, 2012 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

Can someone explain why autocorrect exists in cell phones? A story out of Georgia resulted in a lockdown of a high school due to autocorrect. Someone texted another person “gunna” (never mind the poor spelling) and it autocorrected to “gunman be at West Hall today”

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/autocorrect-error-causes-school-lockdown-fear-gunman-midst-232332774.html

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Feb 29, 2012 8:37 PM PST reply actions  

It helps me text without looking down.

My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.

by Soulbrother16 on Feb 29, 2012 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

After all this off season talk

tomorrow’s intrasquad game is going to be so good to watch

The Golden Bear is ever watching
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Adopted parent of Nate Schierholtz: The Greatest Fear of All Chinese Catchers

by CalBear949 on Feb 29, 2012 8:50 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

After the day I’ve had, I need it.

The weather is Bumgarner, traffic’s the shits and you guys need to be nice to each other.

by TheLetter2 on Feb 29, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I preferred what you wrote at 7:00am this morning

Giant Dirtbags: :(
David B. Flemming is Diamond Certified.

by Giant among Angels on Feb 29, 2012 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Because you procrastinate about the same as the rest of us?

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Feb 29, 2012 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

But I dont wanna migrate to a new thread

- SF GIants Baseball 2011 = *sigh* Home of 6 World Series Titles
- SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = *sigh* Home of the 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
- WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US??? The ny giants sadly =(
- A fan of the Warriors and Lakers.

by ayeyoJERM on Feb 29, 2012 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

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