Fantasy Baseball and the Giants
by Grant Brisbee on Feb 15, 2012 12:52 PM PST
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PrintThis is a sponsored post, but I'm going to turn it into my daily post because I'm cagey like that. The idea is that I'm supposed to write about Fantasy Players to Watch for the Giants. And I can do that. Here are the Fantasy Players to Watch for the Giants:
- the pitchers
I'll also give Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball a freebie and note the Fantasy Players to Avoid for the Giants.
- the hitters
- except for Pablo Sandoval
- and except Buster Posey
- but mostly the hitters
- yep, especially him
- that guy too
Now that we have that out of the way, we need to get going on an important topic related to fantasy baseball. This is possibly the first important topic related to fantasy baseball. A reminder: Nobody has ever cared, or will ever care, about your team. If we say that we're interested that you took Alex Gordon in the 16th round, it's only because you're in the same room with us, and you're making us uncomfortable. We will talk about you after you leave the room.
But there is a pressing issue for Giants fans who play fantasy baseball. Do you draft Dodgers? Are you a pragmatic, competitive player who doesn't care from whence the mercenaries come, just as long as they sate your statslust? Or are you a foolishly loyal sort, willing to risk a fifth-place finish to avoid the stink of Dodgers on you? And do you load up on Giants, rooting for them in two different capacities at the same time?
This probably says more about you than you think. This is a comment on how you live your life with respect to the risk/reward spectrum.
Load up on Giants/Giant players do well
This is the dream. The highest of the highs. In one of my fantasy leagues in 2010 -- note how it's interesting when I write about it -- one of my competitors, who refuses to pick Dodgers, drafted Aubrey Huff way, way, way too early. It was absurd -- he might have been the 14th National League first baseman taken, that's how much of an overdraft it was. That genius enjoyed the success of both Huff and the Giants all season.
Don't avoid Dodgers/Dodger players do awful
Oh, no! Your fantasy team! Poor, poor fantasy team! But you know what's awesome? Real life. Flowers smell better. The sun shines for a few extra minutes every day. James Loney has -3 home runs, and that's ruining your silly Dugouts and Dragons game, but it's fantastic in real life.
Don't avoid Dodgers/Dodger players do well
This is mostly awful, but there's the faintest of silver linings. "Welp, that 17th-straight 1-0 loss to Clayton Kershaw sure made me want to put my face into a desk fan, but at least he helped Al Oliver Clothes Off vault into first place!!!" It's a hollow, shameful consolation prize. But it was going to happen regardless, so at least you get some benefit from it.
Load up on Giants/Giant players do horribly
Remember that Huff guy in 2010? I tried it in 2011. I took Huff in the sixth or seventh round of an NL-only league. Then I took Andres Torres shortly after. My second-round pick was Buster Posey. I did not win my fantasy baseball league last year.
A person who refuses to draft Dodgers (and loads up on Giants) is a person who is willing to live on the edges of the spectrum. The highs thrill them; the despondent lows don't scare them.
A person willing to draft Dodgers is the kind of person who can end up as President of the United States someday hahahahalololololololololol. That works for both parties, so cram it. It was an amazing joke that I couldn't resist. Amazing, I tell you. Let's start again.
A person willing to draft Dodgers is a pragmatic sort, willing to forgo the potential of the dizzying highs, but they also don't go out of their way to overdraft Giants, which helps eliminate the bottoming out that can happen with a 2011 Huff.
So this is the thread where you can talk about your stupid team. Do you overdraft Giants? Do you avoid Dodgers? Your philosophy is a window into your soul.
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Cagey?
like thunderdome cagey?
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BAWWWWW KING THE UNDERTAKER JUST BROKE MANKIND IN HALF
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Feb 15, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
MasterBlaster!
I just watched THUNDERDOME last night.
Forgot how awesomely surreal it was!
“2 Men ENTER. 1 Man Leaves.”
Yes! I DO have Nate's number tattoed on my ass. It's a long story.
http://www.leftymalo.com/2011/08/the_number_twelve.php
by jeremy.lassen on Feb 15, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Who runs Bartertown?
Adoptive parent of Luiz Lins, who has a nasty changeup and a $2 airport surcharge.
“…Masterblaster runs bartertown…”
Yes! I DO have Nate's number tattoed on my ass. It's a long story.
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by jeremy.lassen on Feb 15, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
I'm drafting Ramon Ortiz #1 overall
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Imma load up on the Dodgers this year
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No matter you can't lose weight
Uribe alone would 10 lbs.
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Giants signed RHP Ramon Ortiz to a minor league contract.
He’ll also get an invite to spring training. Ortiz, who turns 39 in March, posted a 4.86 ERA and 25/11 K/BB ratio over 33 1/3 innings with the Cubs last season. He’ll likely serve as insurance for the starting rotation.
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Not a bad pickup
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Well, he’s not good, but at the tender age of 39 it’s possible he’ll improve.
Proud owner of over 20,000 comments. (most of them in the wrong place) Oh yeah, and Buster Posey
I mean
he’s no Jamie Moyer
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Best shape of his life though
At least that’s what Sabean told me.
Get your ass out of the water you're off the team.-Murph(my high school swim coach)
Jaime Moyer?
the formaldehyde keeps him in the same shape as he was 40.
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We had him in Fresno in 2009
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
/reports Grant to Pokemon Protective Services
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Still find it mind-boggling that Gyarados is a flyer (damn that 4x damage from Electric!) but can’t learn Fly. Or many other Flying-type moves for that matter.
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Some of the types were really messed up. Only thing that could combat Psychics were Ghosts, but Gastly/Haunter/Gengar were Ghost/Poison types, so that ruined that. They didn’t even have any Ghost moves outside of Lick.
Didn’t they have Night Shade?
But wasn’t Night Shade also one of those “set to always do the same amount of damage” moves?
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I overdraft MadBum – Posey – Pablo. I draft Dodgers to trade them. It felt really good to trade Kemp last year even tho he did well.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
When it comes to Giants
I’ve won two leagues because I was playing in a league with mostly non-Giants fans and used my Giants fandom knowledge.
In 2009, I drafted Pablo a round to early and was able to play him at at catcher all year. Finished 2nd.
In 2010, I picked up Posey the 2nd he came up to the big leagues. Won the league.
I generally try to avoid Dodgers, but if I felt like Kershaw or Kemp had fallen ridiculously too far I would probably draft them.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I had Kemp and Carroll on one of my teams last year. Pragmatically, they gave me the best chance to win match-ups. I’d do it again.
I do have some players I won’t draft just because they’re asshats, though.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
STOP RUBBING MATT KEMP IN MY FACE!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Apparent that’s what Rhianna said.
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Reminds me of when I started the chant from the left-center bleachers:
howz CHRIS brown TASTE!? – <Clap, Clap, Clap> – annd repeat
You might catch something doing that.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
IN YOUR FACE
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
NO!
That’s too close to MATT CAIN!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
/satyricrash sends C&D letter
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
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Fantasy what?
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Not "what fantasy" but "whose fantasy"
And the answer to that? Lars
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I have Pablo in a keeper league, I’m keeping him this year. Other than that I’ll probably pick up Belt and put him in the minors.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2012 12:59 PM PST reply actions
ALSO BASEBALL BAT CHOP STICKS!
I decided to look at the McDonald's article on the right there.
The picture, for some reason, I found to be hilarious.
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Did anyone organize the McC fantasy baseball leagues this year
all i saw was giantpain’s pay league
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 1:01 PM PST reply actions
I only draft elite dodgers
so Kershaw and Kemp are yes
but i never fill out my roster with dodgers
i try to keep it to one or 2 max
i did have kershaw last year though
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 1:01 PM PST reply actions
In honor of Jeremy Lin
I am having leftover Chinese food for lunch.
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I take it Lin is still playing well?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
He is playing well
but I still don’t like the TOs for a PG.
I have decided to accept it for what it is. A celebration of the Asian athlete (stop giggling).
I just don’t like the hype by ESPN.
But I’m definitely rooting for Pacquiao to knock out Mayweather like 7 times.
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ESPN hype is fine. Its a cool story. But don’t make it like the Warriors lost out on him or that he is the same thing as tebow.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
This
I think my inner Warrior fan is rebelling on the narrative.
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so its unsustainable? I don’t know what a TO for a PG is, but if his underlying numbers aren’t good then he’s probably playing over his head, right?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
There is two ways to look at it.
1) He is having a lot of TOs because of the system he plays in and he is new to the league.
2) He is style is too free wheeling to sustain as a PG and that his scoring/shooting will go down to average levels.
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His style when the team’s two best players are recovering from injury, mind you. He’s been putting the team on his back.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
He had a high TO ratio in college. A 1:1 Assist to TO ratio is not good for a PG.
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Good thing it isn't 1:1.
And his stats while playing for Harvard don’t really address the point at all. Melo and Amare are probably better by themselves than the rest of those Harvard teams combined.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Good thing his Assist to TO ratio is not 1:1
It is nearly 2:1 for his career in the NBA.
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I know know that you feel passionately about this topic
I’m not going to go much further. It just needs to play out. If he sustains this for a few month, I will join in your enthusiasm.
Right now, it’s too early for me to be more than mildly excited.
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I don’t think my question even got answered because everyone seems to really be passionate on this topic.
I guess we’ll see if he can keep it up
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
Faccanity!
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Like Monta, he plays more like a shooting guard but is undersized for the position. He’s an offense-first PG.
Not to say that Monta=Lin, but they are in somewhat of a similar mode. It remains to be seen how Lin’s role will change when both Amare and Melo are back in action. If he becomes more of a distributor that is more selective about driving to the hoop, I could see him continuing to be very good.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Speaking of Melo
Been getting my Lin fix by reading NBA news from Taiwan sites. They actually refer to Carmelo Anthony as “甜瓜” which means “sweet melon.”
teehee
I don’t know why but I find that funny
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I actually thought that was my mouse pointer and couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t moving.
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 15, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
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"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I get this!
Take that all you people who said learning japanese in high school was impractical!
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
^5
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Raise it to the fifth!
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His current production isn’t sustainable simply because he isn’t likely to continue getting 20 shots per game and being the centerpiece of the offense. My understanding is that he is also shooting a higher percentage at the moment than should be expected. But there’s no reason that he can’t continue to be a solid/good PG. He’ll probably settle in somewhere around 15 ppg, 5-6 apg with nice efficiency. A good, useful player. Probably either a solid starter or a very good backup. Basically, Ramon Sessions. As a sidenote, I continue to be surprised Sessions doesn’t get more play.
by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
In honor of leftover Chinese food, I am having diarrhea this afternoon.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
LOL
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
In honor of diarrhea, I am having imodium this afternoon
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"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
In protest of Floyd Mayweather,
I had sushi for lunch.
/Team PacMan
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
does not compute
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Mayweather has drawn attention for racially insensitive remarks in the past. Mayweather went on a profanity-filled racist and homophobic rant against Manny Pacquiao in September 2010. In a video posted on UStream, Mayweather told Pacquiao, a Filipino, to “make some sushi rolls and cook some rice.” He also said “we’re going to cook him with some cats and dogs.”
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Wooooow.
On the other hand, he could’ve said fertilized chicken eggs.
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Balut is the weirdest thing ever
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Still have never eaten it.
My little sister likes it, though.
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That would require him to care about other people or cultures
He could’ve said Jollibee’s, too.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
I came in last place in my league last year using mostly all Giants hitters and pitchers.
I don’t like fantasy baseball anymore.
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This line
btw, hey there man, how’ve you been? How are the wife and kid?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
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hey sup dude. wife and kid are doing well, 2nd pregnancy in a year so its an exciting time. how bout you
<3 my ladies Kanani and Britney
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
you waste no time.
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Whoa
Someone got busy. Congrats on expecting another child. Boy or Girl? BTW, still fighting fires?
I’ve been alright, busy with school as always.
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Ha, yeah. We just wanted the kids close in age, that and Britney doesn’t really want to deal with pregnancy again but we wanted 2 kids so we decided to just have another quickly. Don’t know the sex yet, only a few weeks in. And yeah, still on the job, but I did get the transfer to Monterey so we’re going looking for a house down there soon! Super pumped!
You are working towards being a nurse, was it?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Really? I have no clue why she would feel that way. I mean she just has an alien growing inside her and the hormone swings. Ok, more seriously. That is awesome man. And congratulations again. Monterey you say? Nice. That’s going to be an annoying drive after Giants games though. Happy house hunting!
Yessir. That is correct. I will be a murse. Working alongside purrty wimminz!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
yep, Monterey. I went to college down there and we go down often, she loves the area too so we said Why Not? We can just stay and party in the city after Giants wins instead now haha. Or drink ourselves to death after 1-0 losses, more likely.
Britney is going back to school to finish her nursing degree once the kids head off to school but that’s years off right now… you are going to be surrounded by hot women, my friend. Tricky work, dating coworkers
<3 my ladies Kanani and Britney
Thanks for the season, Niners. Welcome, Giants Baseball! I can't wait to cry every day again!!!
by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
OH! Niiiiiice. That sounds perfect. Yeah….the latter is more likely buddy. Just remember, Please don’t drink and drive. Or call and drive. Or Text and drive. But what’s worst of all is driving while pissed off.
Oh nice. Yeah, the kids will look up to her if she’s a nurse. Well, I know I looked up to my mom when she was a nurse. Heh, it’s very VERY tricky my friend. It’s hard enough attempting to juggle my hot female classmates (LOL 1 of 10 guys in program)
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I’m not the type to drink and drive, yknow what with the accidents I respond to involving drunk drivers and all, so.. yeah :)
I felt kinda bad a little bit because, well, she was like a year away from graduating and becoming a nurse before she met me and pretty much put everything on hold after she became pregnant with Kanani, while I already have my career and get to do what I love. I know she loves being mom, but nursing was her passion too. She could have easily not gone down this road, so I owe this woman everything yknow? I gotta make sure she gets what she wants in the end too.
hey, at least you’ll get paid more as a male nurse. you’ll be able to buy a BMW for each hottie.
<3 my ladies Kanani and Britney
Thanks for the season, Niners. Welcome, Giants Baseball! I can't wait to cry every day again!!!
by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Heh, just making sure. Plus, if anything driving while emotionally unstable is the worst thing someone can do, but that’s just my own opinion.
She sounds like an amazing woman. You better hold on to her man. Just one point of advice, don’t think of it as owing it to her. Do it because you love her and your family, it makes things less stressful and more rewarding. You have what everyone is looking for, you are incredibly lucky. Someone who loves you unconditionally….DAMN
Hey now! You’ll get a BMW too. Plus, if a girl looks at me and all she sees is a bunch of dollar signs…BYE BYE!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Plus, if anything driving while emotionally unstable is the worst thing someone can do, but that’s just my own opinion.
back when I was married to Pam (married at 23, divorced at 24), we got in a huge fight one night. We’d been drinking earlier in the evening, and now it was 330am and we were yelling and she said she wanted to go drive and blow off some steam- it was pouring rain at the time. I was working as a volunteer FF at that time, and a week before a woman had killed herself driving at 4am in the rain after a domestic dispute. Fearing for her safety, I said no, tried to take the keys from her and we tripped over a table fighting over the keys. Someone called the cops, they show up, and not only does the younger cop let her go drive, that same cop also wanted to arrest me for “false imprisonment” and domestic assault, even though Pam even told the cop that we had tripped over the table (she had a bruise on her leg from it). But yeah, bullshit. I always wanted to track down that cop and give him a piece of my mind.
As for Britney, I just got lucky man. Plain and simple. Hard to find a girl with a such a big heart these days, and she’s given me a family. So yeah, I do owe her. Guess love at first sight does exist.
Its hard enough to weed to golddiggers out, I’d suggest telling them you’re an intern nurse so they think you don’t have any money- that way, you’re not getting anything that’s not real.
<3 my ladies Kanani and Britney
Thanks for the season, Niners. Welcome, Giants Baseball! I can't wait to cry every day again!!!
by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Case in point. Wait wait wait. The cop did WHAT?! I mean I understand that domestic assault is a serious matter, but WHAT!? I wouldn’t blame you if you did give him a peace of your mind. That’s a bit ridiculous.
You sir, won the lottery of life. If only it were that easy.
Yeah, that’s why if anything I’m sticking to girls who I already know/know me. And even then, I’m still asking for a prenup. Sure, it isn’t romantic. But, if there’s one thing I’ve learned from nursing school….it’s to always cover my own ass
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
yeah it was bullshit. Cops pretty much said “we understand your concern, but she can do whatever she wants. she doesn’t seem impaired right now, and in fact I wanted to arrest you for attempting to imprison her and not allow her to drive away”. My assessment: The law doesn’t work for everyone.
whoa, you’re going to ask for a prenup? I’d be really, really careful dude. That can ruin even the best of relationships.
<3 my ladies Kanani and Britney
Thanks for the season, Niners. Welcome, Giants Baseball! I can't wait to cry every day again!!!
by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the law really doesn’t. Man is fallible. And when mankind is in charge of also enforcing those laws….it can become really subjective for inexperienced cops, at leas from what I’ve noticed.
It’s tricky business, but California is a No-Fault state. I have to cover my ass.
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Anyone else want to chime in here, maybe some of the females on MCC?
Would you marry a guy who wanted a prenup? Marriage is about a man and woman sharing their lives and trust, and a prenup I think would lodge some trust issues in there. that’s my take at least
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yes please, do chime in. I am lost here
Yes, theoretically….but the way America is going…the fail rate is too scary
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I think if you feel like you need a prenup, she’s not the one
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Counterpoint: there are a lot of people who felt that she was the one and didn’t get a prenup. Oops!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
When you get a prenup, you’re basically saying “and this is what happens when it ends”, yet the whole point of marriage is that it isn’t supposed to end. ‘Til death do we part’ ring a bell?
I mean, when it comes to sizable assets, like millions of dollars, that’s one thing to consider. But mdizzle is a college kid who isn’t loaded right?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
I guess in the event that you go from college kids to multimillionaires, the prenup guards against one of the spouses being without all or most of what was earned while together.
Then again, who cares? Marriage is going to get rebooted soon anyway. I’m thinking it’ll be in 3D, with some British kid playing an American role.
Oh really?
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Exactly.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
I’d rather not get into my monetary situation over the internet
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
fair enough. but if you are a millionaire, then I’d change my tune. You’ve got something to protect.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
when there’s alot of money at stake, its harder to tell the difference. people will say or do anything for money.
money really throws a wrench in relationships
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
I was just kidding above (it’s from Seinfeld).
I personally would be very hesitant to sign one, but my view on marriage might be different than most; plus I got married eons ago when we were dirt poor and prenups weren’t in fashion.
I blame Hollywood. They make jumping from partner to partner look “cool”
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
A marriage that lasts but a single Kardash is tragic, it’s true.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
I have things to lose, and I don’t have a prenup. I have absolutely no regrets or worries about it. Our relationship has gone through many challenges, from me fighting in Afghanistan, constantly working outside of the US in dangerous places, to raising a kid. Through it all we have remained closer than ever. I can’t think of anything that would pull us apart.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
So, that house....
The house purchase pursuit that so tormented me was re-listed this past Friday at $351k. Today I found out that it sold for that price. (1925 Jeannette Dr Pleasant Hill CA 94523).
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
so…..do you want me to TP the house? Or egg it?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
DONE
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I’m sorry but it was my duty to put that fire out. It didn’t work.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
your evil plan, that is.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
killy joy >_<
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
killjoy*
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
you’ll thank me later when the people decide to sell the house because half of it is burned down.
then son of ggf can rebuild for cheap!
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Brilliant! We make a great team
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
now if we could only erase the evidence we left here
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Someone could probably hide this subthread /cough
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
what happened now? I must have missed this.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
I had entered into an offer process while the house was off the market, and then my realtor and mortgage broker both bailed on me without explanation, so the seller got cold feet about me and re-listed it.
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
and you never found out why the realtor and broker bailed?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
nope. I got fucked (and not the pleasant kind).
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They never offered an explanation? You should demand answers my friend
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Consult a lawyer, that’s all I can say. Is calbearjd still around?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
he disagrees. vehomently. or however you spell that word
yknow, when I bought my house here in Petaluma, I used one of my college buddies who works at Chase as my mortage broker and didn’t hire a realtor, I just paid another friend who has bought properties before and was good with negotiating. You think of using a buddy or two of yours somewhere who will make sure it all goes through?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
interesting you say that, because I’m coming to the conclusion that realtors on the buying end just get in the way. But, I have no connections in that world.
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
well, you don’t even really need connections. I’m sure you know someone who has bought property before, right? someone who is a good negotiator? If you do enough of the legwork yourself, that should be all you really need.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Without knowing any facts
and assuming the hypothetical.
You would have no case….no damages.
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nothing legal, I’m pretty sure. But as far as ethical standards in that industry? perhaps.
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Probably not but I don’t know the ethical standards for real estate agents.
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Was your offer more or less? If you don’t mind.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
my offer was 320; they countered 346. In my mind, I was willing to go 333, but things were kind of fluid. They seemed itchy to go to market, so it probably wouldn’t have worked out anyway. Still!!!!!!
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18 thousand bucks is a big number to be seperated on.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a lot of home for ~$1 mil.
I got 1,100 sq ft and a parking spot for half that.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
I had Andres Torres in 2010. Last year I had Torres and Sandoval. I’ve always drafted Matt Cain, but for the past couple of years, it’s been harder to get him now that people actually know about him.
I’ve noticed the same thing about Cain.
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Mayor of Smug.
I do one team a year, and Cain has been on it for each of the past 4-5 seasons. i’m anticipating that he won’t be this year, but that’s ok, because I’m also anticipating that I’m going to be able to get MadBum way later than he should, by rights, be drafted. So it’s cool.
I’ll also probably draft Buster Posey before I should. Because I can’t help myself.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Feb 15, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
I had Panda, Torres, Huff, Freddy, Posey, Belt, Timmy, Cain, Dirty, MadBum, Wilson and a bunch of random scrubs….LOL ME
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
yep I had all of them too, Ross royally screwed me over since he couldn’t get any RIBEYES last year
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
HIM!
That bearded hopping bastard…I had HIM too! Damnit it was bad….decent OBP, average BA…horrible HORRIBLE SLUG% and Ribeyes
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
my league didn’t even score on the one thing he did well, OBP.
It’s all dinosaur Brian Sabean evaluation methods- RBIs, BA, SB, etc
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
I think it was the Belt/Huff platoon that ultimately did me in. That….and reaching on Giants players XD
The only steal I got in the entire draft? Freddie Freeman
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
hahaha good thing you can’t lose by 500 points in stolen bases
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I read that at first as your fantasy team only getting one steal all year.
In that case, I got no steals. Everyone was worse.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
I never go for basestealers, so I’m always last in that category. I’m always high in ranking for Walks and HRs though.
although I did find that basestealers score a ton of runs, something else my fantasy team ranked last in.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised if I didn’t get ANY steals from my entire squad. They were all either broken, injured, or sucky….damn well we’re due for a bounce back year!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
haha. I’d play in a league with you, since we both seem to suck at fantasy baseball.
Let’s create our own private league on espn for people who could care less/have no idea what they’re doing.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
BAHAHAHAH HEY! It was a bad year for me. I usually get to the championship game before my team kerplodes
Sounds, we can beat on all the newbs. Say it’s their “initiation” to McC =P
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
You want to go on espn and start our league or should I?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Do you prefer yahoo or ESPN?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I’ve only ever done ESPN, but if your more comfy with yahoo it don’t matter to me
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
It honestly doesn’t matter to me, just tell me what kind of scoring you want to do, etc
You know what, just email me
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
rotisserie scoring, espn sounds good.
call it the league “Brian Sabeans Requiem”
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
oh I don’t know your email addy
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Weird and embarrassing confession
I’ve never done fantasy baseball. But I do have a fantasy surf team.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
LOL..
Henry Schulman @hankschulman
Did a certain waste of good oxygen on KNBR just say I had three chins? If so, can’t he see that I’m ripped now, like Aubrey?
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By the description, I’d guess Radnich, but that’s my own prejudice showing.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
I thought so too but nope
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That’s no way to treat KNBR’s Giants Insider! @fscott24: I will confirm this, at or near the 11am hour. It wasn’t Gary
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I don’t know why, but this is really funny
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
All I care about is winning
But I don’t like drafting dodgers if I can avoid it. I stay away from the kemps and kershaws unless they are the ONLY option.
Btw, am I the only one who gives less than a shit about Jeremy lin? Please stop with this already.
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
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by bondslegend on Feb 15, 2012 1:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
It's a good story
I’m about as anti-Tebow as they come, but I’m very pro-Lin.
I think he actually might be good at the game he plays and doesn’t feed the media frenzy that causes these stories to be annoying.
Tebow sucks at quarterback and feeds the media beast.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Nothing against the dude
Just sick of hearing about it. He’s better than everyone thought… It happens. Blah.
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Thanks to roger
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by bondslegend on Feb 15, 2012 2:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I draft Dodgers (heh, draft dodgers) and I draft Giants. I find I win more when I draft the best available players, and I find winning more enjoyable than losing.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 1:13 PM PST reply actions
I do not play baseball pokemonz
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 1:17 PM PST reply actions
Hows your porn start pokemonz league going?
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
ur doin it rong
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I like drafting Gyrados.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Draft Magikarp for cheap
then evolve them to Gyarados.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
While I have too much free time lately...
… when baseball season rolls around I will be way too busy to devote sufficient time and attention to fantasy baseball.
@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
Draft prep takes the most time. Especially if you’re in a league that sets rosters weekly.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
I also don’t know enough about players from other teams.
I’d rather spend every free second at the ballpark.
@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
Yeah, that’s why draft prep takes so long, and is the reason I don’t plan on playing this year. Sorting through every roster trying to figure out whose Brandon Crawfords can hit and whose are Brandon Crawford, weighting SBs against HRs, trying to anticipate what you’ll need to win. It’s a lot of work if you’re a competitive person.
Lucky for me my apathy is stronger than my desire to win.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
I found everything takes a lot of time in fantasy baseball. You have to study the stats every day, make weekly decisions, keep up on the minors, and then decide whether to keep on doing it or bail ship to do fantasy football, something infinitely easier
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 15, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
FATNASTY BASEBALL
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
The ability to see your own penis?
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
You know, cuz its hidden.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
you should be thankful its only on the internet
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Evaluating players before the season starts and using that to try and get as much value out of each pick that you can, rooting for randomass players like Coco Crisp or Ryan Braun bc they’re on your fantasy team, and wasted hours. lots of wasted hours. it is really fun though to pick up players who others have overlooked and have them do well, it’s almost better than drafting players where they should be drafted. I had Rickie Weeks in a keeper league and you don’t care i’m boring myself sorry…..drone on…….drone…..a.df.amf
Belt has to win a position and Crawford doesn't
They’re committed to improving their infield defense, too, which means sticking to Brandon Crawford at shortstop. The coaching staff plans to take as much pressure off the gifted defender as possible, batting him eighth and likely sitting him against left-handers in favor of veteran newcomer Ryan Theriot.
Ultimately, Crawford isn’t tasked with winning a job this spring. The most wide-open positional battle will be at first base, where Belt could establish himself as the everyday starter or find himself back at Triple-A Fresno depending on how he carries himself in Cactus League play.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 1:21 PM PST reply actions
The infield defense was really the problem last year. If they’d just played better in the field last year, they wouldn’t have lost so many close games.
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That TIME?
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
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Mayor of Smug.
Where’s that .gif of the ball bouncing off Tejada and right to Crawford, with Tejada blowing up in the process?
My fav one of like, all time.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
It’s really the pitchers fault. If they didn’t put pressure on the defense by striking out more guys, things would’ve been better.
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or pitching it straight down the middle of the plate to make it easier for Eli to catch it
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 15, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Why are people so convinced that he will go to Fresno?
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Nope
but which prospect has the Giants trapped in the minors?
Belt went through some up and down last year but I would say that the Giants screwed up by not sending him to AAA for the whole year.
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Every position player except Sandoval?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
He was only there for a month or so and just to help him with developing catching skills.
I don’t consider that trapping him.
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Oh, I forgot about the magical skills he didn’t have until Bengie Molina was a huge pile of quivering crap.
Ask me about my blog.
Look, I know that it’s a butt of jokes around here but why was it so bad to have Buster go to AAA for a month with Steve Decker.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Because it gave the Giants a month’s worth of Molina starts?
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The day Buster was called up, Molina was hitting .271/.338/.353.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Molina was also a pile of garbage on defense
And the worst baserunner in baseball
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
His defense and baserunning, on the whole season, cost him about a quarter of a win.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Posey was better than Molina
In every facet of the game the second he got called up.
In case you forgot, we made the playoffs on the last day of the season. The 2 1/2 months of Molina catching very nearly cost us a playoff berth and a WS
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
If we are going there. Molina was actually quite good in the first month of 2010. He just sucked thereafter.
What Buster did was unprecedented. Rookie catchers do not make that type of impact on a team.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Rookie catchers do not make that type of impact on a team.
Apparently they do.
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by jhiat00 on Feb 15, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure
but to assume that Buster would do that in the beginning of 2010 would be foolilsh. It’s basically the type of wishful thinking that hurt Belt.
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Assume? No, but he was the #1 prospect in the organization and the future of the franchise. So that is a real possibility. But, you know, Bengie Molina.
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Yes cuz no. 1 prospects always pan out.
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heh
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. You’re right. We should probably just assume they will suck. Especially after showing lots of promise.
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No
no one is saying he will suck but to assume that he will be good and have no backup plan would be foolish.
Especially when he has more things to learn.
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Well the backup plan could be your back up level catcher Bengie Molina.
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Instead
they sent Buster down to learn more things
brought him up after 6 six weeks and traded away Molina by beginning of July and then started a rookie catcher for the rest of the season.
Yeah, that happens all the time.
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Hey I’m glad it worked out in the end. I still think it was a dumb move to start Molina over Posey. If I wasn’t lazy I’d find me saying so at the time.
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the point is that you may have called it but that doesn’t mean it was the right thing to do.
Look at what happened to Belt, that is typical of prospects. What Buster did in 2010 is historical.
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What exactly happened to Belt? He didn’t produce given sporadic at bat? He got injured? Wouldn’t a reasonable person expect him not to do so well under those circumstances?
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Belt was rushed. He should not have started the season in MLB…he was not ready for it.
The only reason he was put in that place was because the FO was reveling in how awesome Buster did.
They forgot about how prospects usually develop
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I’m wondering who they would have called up instead of Belt to take Ross’s spot. Ishikawa?
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Well
I am assuming that Ross would not have been injured
Was Ish hurt then?
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His shoulder injury didn’t happen until later, I believe. I think Belt took Ishi’s spot on the 40-man.
And I only think about it because, well, it happened. And Belt did get the nod. So, if they were to say, “no, we’ll give the kid some more time in Fresno,” as they did with Posey.
Alternatively, who might they have sent down other than Belt when Ross came back. I know GP advocated just dropping Ross in favor of belt entirely, but seriously. Never in a million years would that happen.
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If you actually called it, then okay.
But, being irritated by it with the benefit of hindsight is sort of like saying the FO should have had a crystal ball. It’s not crazy to think a rookie catcher will need some extra development time.
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Also, once they called him up, I think all of us were clamoring for him to start.
I am just not going to get all pissed off at a team deciding to leave a rookie in AAA a little longer. I think that’s an okay way to do things.
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Who’s all pissed off? I’m just saying that I thought it was dumb.
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A lot of people are happy to let Hector Sanchez marinate in AAA instead of making him the backup catcher, who will be taking a larger-than-normal share of PAs this year.
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Which is to say, it’s no less a rational attitude than it was to let Posey be in Fresno to start 2010. Players get better in the minors.
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Right. I don’t think having that philosophy is some major black mark on the FO. The FO does plenty of way stupider things to complain about.
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I don’t think that’s really comparable, since Hector Sanchez is nowhere near as good as Buster Posey.
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It’s not about Sanchez vs. Molina. It’s about value over the alternatives. Sanchez stands a good chance at being considerably more valuable than Stewart or Whiteside.
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Even in just a backup role?
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It’s about comparing a starting catcher to a backup catcher. The former is important; the latter isn’t particularly.
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Not really
It’s about a heavily used backup catcher (since Buster will be playing first base some days) versus two month of a starting catcher.
The number of innings and PAs isn’t all that far apart.
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I think framing things in terms of ‘We have Bengie so we can keep Buster in AAA’ is just plain wrong. Didn’t happen that way.
Instead, it was ‘We want Buster to spend some time with Steve Decker in Fresno, so we need to find a catcher for at least the first half of the season’. The fact that it ended up being Bengie (which I wasn’t particularly happy about) had nothing to do with the decision to let Buster develop in AAA. Nothing.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
This
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If the thinking was, “Welp we’ve already decided to keep Buster in AAA so whoever we sign for MLB will just have to do,” than that is just dumb.
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Yes, totally stupid to try an find an established player on the free agent market during the offseason.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
It is if you’re signing Bengie Molina to start over Buster Posey.
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No, it isn’t.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Their motivation is irrelevant. Either way I believe they were incorrect.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Instead, Bengie whined when Posey was called up
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
If by ‘magical skills’ you mean ‘questionable technique’ then yes.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
/Buster calls for the 6-fingered sploogeball
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Instead of throwing the ball back to the pitcher, Buster Posey would often hurl it into the crowd while grabbing his jock and screaming “WHERE DOES BALL GO!”
Thank God Steve Decker taught him the correct way.
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by xanthan on Feb 15, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No one is saying this
but I trust Steve Decker when he said that Buster learned a lot in those two months. It’s probably more a testament to Buster that he learned those things in two months.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/07/SPHE1F8JUH.DTL
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Whatever else is true they chose to go with Molina instead of an All Star level catcher.
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Whatever else is true they chose to go with Molina instead of an unknown quantity.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Right. It’s not as if anyone knew that Buster would be “all star level.” Sure, maybe they projected incorrectly, but it wasn’t yet a known fact.
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What gets me is that it seems like the same people who would never accept results vs. process in evaluating a trade, for instance, argue results over process with regards to Buster’s development.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yes but not unknown like, “what will happen if I light this on fire.” More like, “he’s unproven but has shown to be a kick ass ballplayer in every level he’s been assigned to.”
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168 PAs above A+ ball.
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If he’d come up right away and tanked, the FO would be to blame for that, as well.
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Well yeah, they will get blamed for any failure. I’m more of a mind to give a rookie a prolonged shot though so I wouldn’t have been complaining in that situation.
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Like Belt.
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This may be my problem, but when I hear snide remarks about how he was being blocked, it pretty much translates in my mind to ‘He was languishing in the minors for ages even though he was brought up faster than just about any other every day catcher in the history of baseball’.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yes…cuz there are so many rookie all-star catcher.
It took Matt Wieters (who was the Mike Trout of catching prospects) a few years to do what Buster did in his first year.
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Really?
We’re going to go after the FO for not promoting Posey after 151 PAs in AAA?
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And then
blast them for rushing Belt as the starting 1B.
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Silly.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
You can add Schierholtz to the list. The fact that he didn’t get more playing time back when the Giants were completely awful is mind boggling.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
He did….and then got injured. Like everyone else on the team
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 15, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
I think he means in 2008, instead of running Randy Winn out there every day.
Or in 2009, when the Giants were finally competing but Randy Winn suddenly because awful… and they still ran him out there every day. And batted him 5th.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
I know right? I barely spend any time here for months, and its still the same argument among the same people
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Why can’t Pie-ists and Cake-ists just get along? Find middle ground and share some brownies??
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replace pie with Belt and cake with Sabean
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
fixed
replace pie with Belt and cake withSabeanBochy
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by xanthan on Feb 15, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
In fairness
If they had a SS option with anything resembling Huff’s resume, I don’t think Crawford would be just handed the job, either.
Personally, I’m glad their not making Crawford beat out Thieriot or Fontenot*.
*I like Fontenot as more of super-sub/Plan B than starting SS
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I don’t see how Crawford is a better option than Fontenot.
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Crawford is a much better defensive player.
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Fontenot is a much better player.
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I don't think the team thinks he can handle SS full-time
Also, I’m really curious to see 200-300 PAs from Crawford. His hitting or lack thereof will really be the most interesting thing to watch early on.
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There’s no reason to think that Crawford will hit at all. Fontenot can hit a little, and he can play a passable shortstop.
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Or, you know, they could have had Marco Scutaro for free.
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Why is there no reason to think that Crawford can hit?
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Because he never has, with the exception of 44 games in the California League. The only other time he wasn’t terrible was when he repeated AA.
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Well he'll be repeating the major leagues this year, so nyuh.
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heh
This is a guy who hit .232/.309/.354 last year across all levels. Those would be completely unacceptable even if they were major-league numbers.
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With Crawford’s defense, he probably be worth two wins with that line.
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Amazing.
.254/.290/.343, 10.2 UZR, 0.4 BsR, 2.2 fWAR
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That's Escobar's 2011 with the Royals.
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Pennington hit
.250.319/.368 and a UZR/150 of 8.8 in 2010.
4.0 fWAR player.
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I am dubious that Crawford will walk that much or ISO that well.
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Sure
I don’t expect him to be a 4 WAR player either.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Let's look at some MLEs
San Jose, 2011: .235/.293/.394
Fresno, 2011: .202/.249/.276
Overall minors, 2011: .214/.265/.319
Overall, 2011: .209/.278/.307
Brandon Crawford hit exactly how we would expect him to hit.
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Hmmm.
He hit .322/.412/.593 In SJ in 2011 and .224/.282/.318 in Fresno. Overall, he hit, .265/.335/.422 in the minors last year.
He also had an insanely low BABIP of .228 last year in the majors.
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Unsustainably low, probably.
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BABIP will probably rise. Strikeouts will probably rise too. I project a wash.
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His plate discipline was kind of unprecedented.
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The big league team hasn’t had a chance to beat that out of him yet.
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that’s so sad that not only do we believe that, it is very well going to happen
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
I think it’s going to be something like, ‘oh hey, this dude can’t hit. Let’s just challenge him to hit the ball and see what happens’. I’m seeing those walks going way down.
I don’t see why that wouldn’t have already happened last year.
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Because some Brewer guy hung a curveball that one time
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Well, he doesn’t turn the ball over, for one.
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It's affecting my sex life
My stamLina is way down
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Also, I’m really curious to see 200-300 PAs from Crawford. His hitting or lack thereof will really be the most interesting thing to watch early on.
If Crawford hits the way I think most of us expect him to hit, I really wonder if he’ll even make it to 100 PAs. Bochy and Sabez aren’t exactly renowned for their patience with young hitters.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
This.
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In fairness, they could’ve gone out and done something about this offseason. They chose not to.
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not true
They locked up their great relief pitchers!
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CORNER THE MARKET
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
There weren't any good SS available!
/checks notes
Wait a minute..
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The went after Alex Gonzalez. Rollins and Furcal were arguably never truly on the open market.
And, well, Reyes.
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You're also ignoring
Lowrie and Scutaro
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How we didn’t end up with Yuni, well, I don’t know.
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by xanthan on Feb 15, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
WHERE IS YUNI WHY AM I YELLING
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GIANTS BASEBALL: SAVE YOURSELVES
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They should make Crawford beat out Theriot and Fontenot
Since they both have major league careers wherein they’ve been perfectly cromulent players.
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Actually, Theriot sucks, too. Fontenot is the only passable one, IMO.
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Ryan Theriot career wRC+: 86
Mike Fontenot career wRC+: 91
Ryan Theriot career UZR/150 at SS: -1.7
Theriot was bad two years ago, and he was meh last year. But every year other than that in his career, he’s been pretty OK. Theriot does not suck, and a Fontheriot platoon is our current best option at SS, though they won’t use it.
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I’m aware of what Theriot USED to be able to do. His defense has deteriorated a lot.
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I bent Bonds career UZR/150 would look pretty great, too, if the data went back to when he was drafted.
What matters is his defense now, where there is little reason for optimism.
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I don’t even know why they bothered signing Theriot and Fontenot, and then were all, “but Crawford is our guy.” So weird. I suppose they consider Fontenot more of a backup to Freddy?
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I think that Fontenot is the backup SS, and Theriot was just signed as a general backup for when Freddy gets hurt.
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I think Fontenot is plan B if Freddy isn't ready or Crawford lays an egg...
…I think Theriot is the backup backup and occosinal RHH starter at SS against certain LHP
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oh, did you see that youtube clip of Theriot making 1001 errors? I did!!
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
He made 1001 errors in just 770 plays
You can’t put a price tag on that type of efficiency
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he’s consistent, exactly what Bochy is looking for, yes?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, well, shit, you didn't tell me there was a youtube video.
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I saw it.
I was being facetious.
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That period was called
2008.
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Man this quote pisses me off
The consensus among team officials is that Belt wasn’t physically or mentally ready for the big leagues last season, when he was rushed onto the roster because of injuries
PERHAPS, it was the jerking back and forth between Fresno and AAA and the lineup and the bench that wore him out mentally. And IIRC Belt said he prepared his body to play 1b not the OF last season and that fatigued him physically. But hey assholes dont look in the mirror or anything. Just blame it all on Belt.
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He did not get jerked around.
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he got jerked up and down
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He went through what just about every other rookie prospect goes through.
He didn’t play well, he got sent down, he came back up because he hit well in the minors, he got hurt, went back to Fresno for rehab and came up to stay in mid-July, and started playing regularly by mid-August.
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So what you’re saying is that he got jerked around.
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No
The only grips I have is 1) the Giants probably should have started Belt in AAA but they were blinded by the goodness of Buster and 2) Belt should have played more in early August.
But everything is reasonable.
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This organization gave valuable at bats to Brett Pill instead of Brandon Belt.
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No they didn't
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September 2011
Brandon Belt — 16 starts, 64 Plate Appearances
Brett Pill —13 starts, 53 Plate Appearances
??!!!?!?!?!?!??!
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What probably bothered me more than it should have, was in 2009 when Posey was called up to sit on the bench.
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17 plate appearances.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
I was so fucking pissed about that bullshit too
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Belt
played in 15 of the last 17 games, starting 14 of them.
Pill played in 12 of the last 17 games, starting 9 of them.
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That doesn’t mean Brett Pill should have been playing.
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If they were playing simultaneously, I don’t think it was particularly to Belt’s detriment. Pill was playing over Huff in September, which was actually a fairly logical thing to do.
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That's what I am saying
Pill didn’t really take PAs away from Belt. Just played 1B because that was the only position Pill could play.
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Pill should never have been on the field. Belt should have gotten all of the at bats.
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At both LF and 1B?
I’m not sure MLB allows that.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
haven’t we argued this enough times?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently not.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
and came up to stay in mid-July, and started playing regularly by mid-August.
This is kind of jerking him around, no?
game log from when he came back up July 19:
starts, pinch hits, pinch hits, pinch hits, no AB, no AB, pinch hits, starts, pinch hits, pinch hits, pinch hits
That’s why you brought him up from AAA? That’s not jerking him around?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
He was activated from the DL, not called up from AAA.
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If I’m remembering correctly, they activated him from the DL and immediately sent him down to AAA. Is that not true?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
That’s what Calbear seems to say with
he got hurt, went back to Fresno for rehab and came up to stay in mid-July,
The only problem with that account though is his game log has a blank spot from Aug 2 to Aug 14.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
I guess you missed this part
The only gripes I have is 1) the Giants probably should have started Belt in AAA but they were blinded by the goodness of Buster and 2) Belt should have played more in early August.
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That was July I posted. Guess you missed that part, and the part where I was quoting you to back up my belief that Belt was sent down after being activated.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 15, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
I’m in the camp that believes Belt was rushed because of Ross’ injury but their attitude towards Belt has kind of sucked
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 15, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
maybe if he was tired we shouldnt have made him play winter ball
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by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
I get the whole Crawford hits worse than Hitler thing
I really do. But I am excited to see great SS defense this year. I got so tired of the giants being the worst D up the middle last year. I’m sort of in the Giants FO’s camp this year on this.
Of course, I know this won’t last either. After 1 month of .200 hitting from Crawford they will trade for a 42 year old SS that hits .220 and is awful at defense.
The problem is that the Giants, as a team, are pretty terrible on offense. I don’t think most of us are willing to accept glove guys at this juncture. Maybe if it wasn’t just Pablo and whoever’s hot at the moment there’d be room for someone like Crawford. Even then, you should always want better.
I get this
but then people slam the FO for getting Pagan over Torres, which essentially is trading offense for defense.
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Value is value.
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False corollary.
Crawford doesn’t have to hit all that much to be a 2-win shortstop.
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It depends on what you (and those who are pro-Crawford) view “hit all that much” to mean. The rest of us don’t think he will be able to hit at all.
See Alcides Escobar.
Crawford could hit .220/300/.350 and be a 2-win player if he is as good as advertised on defense.
Based on his production last year and his suspect BABIP, that’s not really asking the moon.
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That’s a higher ISO than he’s posted just about anywhere that wasn’t San Jose. And I don’t think he’s going to walk that much either.
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I think he’ll hit better than .220. If his BABIP regresses to about .260, his avg would be something like .230 or .240. Which of course would narrow the gap on ISO, which was at about 100 points last year.
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With the exception of 2011, every single stop his K rate has been >20%, often times by a large margin. I expect any regression in BABIP to be made up for by an increased K%, especially as the league starts to exploit his holes (TWHS?). It really wouldn’t surprise me if his average was in the .210-.230 range.
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His K-rate stabilized extremely quickly last year. And I do believe the reports that he changed his swing mechanics to cut down on strikeouts, which would cast some doubt onto the true value of his minor league record prior to 2011.
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Just because it stabilized doesn’t mean that’s his true talent going forward. Huff’s walk rate in 2010 stabilized pretty quickly, and he went back to his career average walk rate in 2011.
If he changed his swing, cool. I’ll believe it helps when I see it though.
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It might not be his true talent level, but it also wasn’t SSS shenanigans.
And one could argue that it helped last year. Without the K-rate difference, he would have been even worse.
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It's pretty much what ZIP projects him to have
and ZIPs is pessmistic.
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Rotochamp: .258/.338/.356
Fangraph: .242/.315/.347
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It may not be asking the moon, but it's certainly asking low earth orbit.
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Might look like that if your head’s in the sand, I suppose.
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Asking for a .300 OBP out of a guy with a .313 OBP in AA and a .291 in (small sample) AAA
Is a bit much.
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He had a .291 OBP last year.
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SLOW DOWN
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Oh and .288 (again small sample) in the majors
AA: .313
AAA: .291
MLB: .288
I think it’s pretty clear he’s a sub-.300 OBP major league hitter.
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It’s pretty clear you think that.
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What if there is water under the dam?
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Still
It’s nice to have some Defense behind great pitching. Not really arguing here. I just hate when the Giants end up settling on a SS that is awful at both O and D but has veteran grit.
And btw, why do the Giants fall in love with old veterans at positions up the middle that are usually saved for younger players and then often put the younger players on the corners?
Actually, having defense behind great pitching is probably less important than having defense behind mediocre pitching.
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Let me put it this way: We would all love a great fielding SS who can also hit, but seeing as how there is nothing we can do about the fact they won’t get one, I will not bemoan watching Crawford snag line drives all day.
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I want to go to a Baby Giants game sometime. Fresno is far away, and San Jose is a A ball team, right?
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
They’re lots of fun. There used to be a Cal League team in Salinas, which would be close to you, but that’s long since moved on.
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wait, was that Salinas Cal League team called the Bandits, do you know?
but yeah, I totally want to hit up some A ball games, see some future Giants.
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Don’t remember offhand, but every old California League team is listed on the league’s Wikipedia article.
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cool, thanks. Rich Aldrete took our college baseball team to Salinas a few times back in my frosh/soph years and I was wondering it it was the same team we’re talking about here.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Go!
It’s so fun! The park is old and funky, but that makes it charming.
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For me it will go exactly like this: “Goddamn that kid can field. WHY THE FUCK CAN’T HE HIT!” So I won’t be pleased watching him play baseball because it will be a constant struggle between good play and bad play. And then if he makes an error? REAAAAALLY fuck that guy.
well, if you’re going to freak out when he makes an error, that’s lame. dude is human.
I personally think he hits .230, but that’s just me
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
He has no margin for error. The whole team has no margin for error. If Cody Ransom gets put into the game as a defensive replacement and then makes an error WHAT THE HELL, MAN? If Brandon Crawford is getting playing time strictly for his glove and isn’t better than above average, then what’s the point?
I’m just sayin, he’s going to be above-average defensively. That is a given. But he will make errors, just the same as he will get some hits too.
But he’ll make a whole lot more plays that Orlando Cabrera couldn’t dream of making, while hitting about what Orlando Cabrera hit.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I'm in this line, but still sad that OCab is the bar
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You can have Tejada as the bar…it comes with a free spotlight that works every 20-30 games.
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I’m still of the thinking that Sabean thought he was getting a different Cabrera when he traded for OCab. That….or Sabez is a complete moron
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Meh trade still.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
but I’m not mad about that anymore
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
A real stinker.
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It’s a meh trade. It’s getting upset over getting a bad burger from McDonalds. Do I feel jib for the $3 I paid? Sure, but it’s $3.
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Neal?
$3
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Just because something costs $3 doesn’t necessarily make it worth $3. You can always get something better if you shop around
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Maybe…but Neal was probably closer to $1 to $1.50…there are not much options at that price level.
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Then don’t trade. Making a move to make a move is a dumb idea.
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No
the idea of it was that there is a small chance that it could benefit the club in return for trading away a prospect that has a small chance of being impactful in the future.
It’s Wheeler for Beltran except significantly less talent and less impact.
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Then keep the prospect and wait for a better deal to come along. Even when the stock market takes its bad turns and the Dow loses 1000 points in a day, you don’t sell your Apple or Google…or in this case Groupon stocks for pennies on the dollar. You wait for a better offer to come your way.
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My point is that
it’s not the worst trade ever…the potential impact of the trade was minimal.
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From whose perspective? Not management’s. They viewed the acquisition as something that could help get them back to the playoffs. That’s not minimal. And that’s the potential of the deal in the organization’s eyes.
What
I really doubt the FO thought this was an important move. It was a flier trade. Maybe he will pan out and at a position that we need help with.
It’s basically Guillen trade 2.0.
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It’s basically Guillen trade 2.0.
That is not exactly a ringing endorsement.
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No it's not
but pretty much a blip on the 2010 season.
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Guillen was not a flier trade. They had had talks with KC for a good long while when it was originally supposed to be for DeJesus (presumably to insure against Torres suddenly sucking), and they desperately wanted/needed a power bat.
How is that not different than the situation with Crawford…they had Nate in RF.
Replace Guillen with Cabrera, Nate with Crawford, and Need for power bat with need for SS production.
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This thread is quite hilarious
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/8/13/1621375/twitter-ken-rosenthal-rival#comments
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Agreed
but meh!!!!! Do you even remember who the Giants traded to get him?
There is degree of bad and then there is impact. It’s a two part equation.
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“We dropped an atomic bomb on our enemies but the bomb was a dud, so overall that was a meh move that had little or no impact.”
PROCESS. PROCESS. PROCESS.
No
that is bad analogy, a really bad one.
It is more like we dropped a small bomb on the enemy and it failed to explode. It would have been nice had it exploded but no biggie.
An atomic bomb would be the Beltran trade.
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So we will forever disagree on the organization’s view of the size and potential impact of these (Cabrera, Guillen) moves, then. So be it.
I think Neal is/was essentially valueless
He got nothing for nothing. But the nothing he had was a bit more interesting, I guess. Pointless move, but the bigger crime was how much PT Bochy gave him after it was clear he was useless.
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Neal was nothing, but there was a small chance that he could be something
Cabrera was less than nothing. The Giants would have lost that trade if they had given nothing for him.
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That’s my only really hang-up about the Cabrera trade. Dumb trade, but he’s gone now and all that…
But even if Neal was unlikely to ever be a contributing major leaguer, that he was traded suggests he had at least some value as a trade chip. Very little, most likely, but it’s a wasted bargaining chip all the same. Maybe he could have been flipped for a minor league reclamation project or something else instead.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
Now that 2011 is over and the effects of that trade are largely gone, the biggest problem is that there was nothing redeeming about that trade. I can’t believe that anyone who would think that that was a good trade to make could possibly know what they were doing.
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I thought it was interesting/odd that Kevin Goldstein was noncommittal about his feelings on that trade. Something to the effect of, “I understood why they did it.”
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
I really don’t understand it at all. The only possible reasoning I can see is LOOK SHINY VETERAN!!!
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Sure
but it’s $3 and low expectations.
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No. It’s the fact that you could have something better for you but choose not to.
That same $3 can buy you some chicken and a dinner roll
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Or a better burger and a drink (In-N-Out)
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I may have upvalued Neal
maybe $1.50.
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/in this line
I would have said Five Guys, but their cheeseburger is $5.89.
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Sure
but it’s still $3. You were hoping for something mildly edible to fill you up…instead you got something less than that.
I mean you could have gotten some KFC chicken instead but it’s still $3.
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How is trading a meh prospect
for a meh player…settling? It’s even.
Trading Wheeler for Beltran was the indication that the Giants going for the win.
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The idea was that
1) They needed a MI since Crawford was sucking
and
2) Cabrera was going to play defense better than Tejada, especially after coming of the DL.
Even if it was a “bad” trade, the impact of it was so minimal that it is close to irrelevant.
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1) They needed a MI since Crawford was sucking
Good thing we fixed that problem!
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Just so we’re clear: Crawford’s fielding ability in 2012 will be so great that he will help the Giants win a lot of games, but in 2011 when he was flashing leather that cemented that notion about the impact of his fielding ability he was sucking and was, therefore, worth replacing for a player who was clearly inferior by the numbers even at the time the deal was made?
I should think people who hold Crawford in such high regard would have no trouble whatsoever just saying the O-Cab trade was a bad move.
Didn’t say it wasn’t a “bad” move. Just that it’s a meh move.
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I know. It seems like a completely wrong opinion for you to have, since the evidence you use to prop up Crawford’s amazingnessawesomebility directly indicates how terrible Orlando Cabrera is and was.
1) The trade itself was meh…trading Cabrera for Neal is meh.
2) There is no question that Bochy played Cabrera too much but in the overall scheme of things, it made little or no impact on the Giants’ fate in 2011.
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Yep
Plus, you can pitch hit for Crawford starting in the 6th inning if you don’t have the lead. He could get only 3 ABs per game. 3 innings of Font/Riot D and 2 of their ABs.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense to pull the glove guy late in the game, when you typically insert one into the game.
If you’re down runs, it can make sense.
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Yes, that’s true. It’s just a weird way of looking at things (“we know this guy isn’t going to generate a lot of runs so we’ll pull him later in the game and hope that he’s prevented runs for us up to that point. Then we’ll hope that his replacement generates the runs he could not.”)
It’s more akin to PHing for the pitcher in a high-leverage situation (which is, in a sense, a defensive tradeoff) than it is to plugging in Ishi at first base or whoever.
Leverage is the key factor.
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I like this too. I am actually cool with crawford. his defense will be amazing to see. and seeing as the giants can’t hit anyways, what’s one more guy who can’t hit? especially at a position where can’t hitting is pretty normal?
I would be excited to see an offense that didn’t suck balls. But we’re not going to, in part because the front office has now decided that great SS defense is the only thing that matters.
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That's a little unfair no?
Or does this fall under the FO just suck corollary?
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If they were interested in finding a shortstop, they could have found one.
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It would've cost them at least twice as much
as the other teams that found shortstops this offseason, though, and they just didn’t and never will have the money to compete for that kind of talent, which is overpriced in the free agent and trade markets.
The Rockies got Marco Scutaro for nothing
Less than nothing, in fact.
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8 million bucks.
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But if the Giants had been involved Boston would've raised the asking price
and the Giants didn’t have much to give in the first place.
Clayton Mortensen had a 9.42 ERA in AAA last year. I think the Giants could have given a little more than that.
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Suppose the Giants didn’t want to give up Runzler? Or, perhaps the Red Sox would want two arms. Maybe the Giants didn’t want to give up two arms for an old middle infielder, especially after getting burned by Orlando Cabrera’s performance last season?
Thing is, we just don’t know. In that case, it’s best not to second guess and just enjoy the game.
If we're going to not second guess and just enjoy the game, there's no point in posting here
Regardless of what they could or could not have paid, the fact that the Rockies paid only Clayton Mortensen means that the Giants didn’t try to outbid that. That’s not acceptable.
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by El Person on Feb 15, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Clayton Mortenson
Plus six million dollars.
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Yep, and in the other Boston deal, Lowrie would’ve cost way more in terms of prospects or quality player and he’s a kid who’s mostly an unknown at this point.
This is some grade A shit. I feel bad for EP.
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$6 million bucks and 36.
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Yes
cuz every baseball deal occurs exactly at the same time.
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you have any idea what a 9.42 ERA in Colorado Springs probably equates to after ballpark factors?
like a 4.50
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
or maybe the options available were either too expensive and/or too risky?
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Riskier than going with Crawford?
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I’d guess Crawford is a safer bet for value than Theriot.
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Riskier?
certainly injury wise it is.
Reyes: Too expensive/injury
Rollins: Too expensive/injury
Carroll: 39 and two year contract
Furcal: Injury/expensive
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39 and two year contract
How is he not a Giant?
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And yet people complain.
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We complain because we want good players playing for the Giants.
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/strawman’d
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The strawman would be twice as expensive if the Giants tried to sign him.
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by Solidarity on Feb 15, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No
Carroll was a poor defensive shortstop last year and in 38. That does not translate well
Scutaro also lost a step at SS and will be 36.
Scutaro/Carroll is projected to be about .50 to .75 OPS better than Crawford, even assuming they don’t get hurt. Does that equate to a significantly higher WAR advantage? I don’t believe so.
And certain not $5.5 or $7 milllion more.
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We will see how the season ends up for these 3 guys. But to say that I don’t value a single player on the Giants just because I’m not happy with Crawford is quite a stretch.
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I think his comment was more about the attitudes of amny in general
The people that were clamoring for guys like Werth, Dunn and Carl Crawford and criticizing the team for not signing any of them don’t seem to come forward and say “OK, maybe I wasn’t right on that one.”
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I’m sure all 3 were signed for more than most here would have been willing to go. Even so, I think Werth and Crawford still have the ability to live up to those.
My gripe is the Giants haven’t even been rumored to be in on an impact bat. Who was the last big hitter they were even rumored to be in on? Vlad? We all know the quote that came from that.
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What was the last impact bat that you wanted that were actually impactful?
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Holliday comes to mind.
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And I’m not even talking actually signing them. I’m saying even to have been rumored to think about possibly having their friend approach them during study hall.
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“Yeah we didn’t get [Werth, Crawford, etc…] but we did put in an offer of what we thought was fair. Unfortunately, another team came along and offered more than what we were willing to do.”
Not saying they need to throw $200 million at every big bat that comes along.
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How often do we really know what level of involvement the Gs had on a potnetial deal?
Sabean is notoriously tight-lipped.
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I will (un)happily eat crow if Beltran sucks for the next two years.
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I’m not worried about Beltran sucking. Mostly about the Cardinals destroying his knees.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
Ok, if his output is bad, then. Which includes both rate stats and playing time.
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Wasn’t trying to argue with you. Just keeping that dimension in the picture, as it’s probably the most serious threat to his production over that span.
Doubly so when the Cardinals say they want to play him in center.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
If Beltran sucks the next two years I’ll still think it would have been a good signing. Just one that didn’t work out. But then I would be angry as the Giants would keep running him out there while he sucked.
I think you are underrating how much .05 to .075 OPS difference makes.
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It’s probably what…one WAR…let’s say two.
Carroll was a 2.2 oWAR and -0.4 dWAR player last year.
Scutaro was a 2.5 oWAR and -1.1 dWAR player last year. This is puzzling because his UZR/150 was 1 as a SS last year. So I am just going to say that he is an 0 WAR defender. Scutaro also had a career year last year.
Crawford is probably a 0.5 oWAR and a 1 dWAR player at worse.
So the worst case scenario is that he is a 1 WAR player below Scutaro and just below Carroll.
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That’s your worst case scenario?
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Yeah, I doubt Crawford ends up in the black as far as oWAR is concerned.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
And it's also a bit presumptuous to assume that Crawford is one of the 2 or 3 best defenders in the MLB
Which is what a +10 defender would have to be.
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He was on pace for that last year.
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That sample size is basically meaningless.
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I didn't pay attention to his d metrics but he sure passed the sniff test to my eye
I guess sniffing with my eyes is mixing metaphors, but I saw a guy with:
- ++ arm (especially while moving)
- ++ glove
- + range
- + abiilty to get back to his feet and throw after diving
He also seems to know which plays he can make and can’t.
I could see him as one of the top 5 or 6 defensive SS in the league
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He had a
8.3 UZR/150 last year.
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
lol
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It's fine
I’m done. Again, there is no chance that Giants players will do better while everyone else will improve.
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If that strawman only had a brain.
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If we’re going to complain about strawmans, can we eliminate “because of reasons” as an accepted line of argument?
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You feel this way
because of reasons.
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I am assuming
absolutely no regression by Carroll and Scutaro.
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I am also
giving Scutaro the benefit of the doubt as to his defense.
If I went straight numbers..he would have a rWAR of 1.4 and Carroll would be 1.8.
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Crawford’s worst-case scenario is not 1.5 WAR.
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His defensive value is pretty much known. It’s his offense that is a concern.
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Only six shortstops in baseball were ten-win defenders last year.
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So
that precludes Crawford from being one.
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Consulting the Baseball-Reference Play Index, only one shortstop has been worth ten runs each of the last three years
Maybe you think that Brandon Crawford is as good as Troy Tulowitzki. I’m a little bit skeptical.
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Using a valid 3 year sample
There’s only two true +10 SS defenders in baseball at the moment, Hardy and Ryan.
But hey, it’s always fun to assume that whatever prospect you like is one of the best 3 defenders in the game because of reasons.
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Fine
Let’s assume that he is a 0.5 dWAR player and absolutely no value offensively.
That is still about a 1 WAR difference at worse.
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Yeah
cuz the Giants should have also traded for Bartlett or signed Nishioka.
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I’m sure the $3.25M a year needed the Twins paid Jamey Carroll would be far too much.
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dude is 38.
and he got a two year contract.
He also had a -6.2 UZR/150 last year at SS.
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Read xanthan's blog!
http://www.baycityball.com/2011/12/10/does-brandon-crawfords-bat-outweigh-his-defense/
I’d say Crawford’s ceiling is that .300-.310ish wOBA, which would make him a useful if below average player.
His ceiling is below average.
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For this post, I’m calling Crawford a plus-five run defender at shortstop. Plus-five runs on defense might not sound like a lot, but it’s a very optimistic estimate. For example: Over the past three years, only eight shortstops have averaged five runs or more on defense per 150 defensive games played. Thus, we’re calling Crawford one of the ten best defensive shortstops in baseball. I
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by GiantPain on Feb 15, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It has reached Jose Lopez levels of analysis now.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
This doesn’t seem to agree with FanGraphs. Crawford was .260 last year, and was rated as -9.5 batting runs over a third of a season. By this chart, he would have been worth about -14 over the same span, which is a pretty big discrepancy.
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Jordana Brewster and Paula Patton.
holy smokes
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Jordana Brewster and Zooey Deschanel
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Mine is Deschanel and Jennifer Carpenter, Dexter-era.
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At some point in the last couple years, the idea of Zooey Deschanel came to be really annoying.
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but she's adorkable!
and really annoying
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She’s annoyingly adorkable.
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Grant said they represent another part of the anatomy.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
/turns head
oh I see it. Looks kind of like a nose….OMG WTH
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I could actually name like 3 things it resembles- one being a very short, pointed penis, and the other two female anatomy
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watching her on SNL, and had to keep from throwing up in my mouth a few times.
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I’ve watched one episode of her show and that it was amazingly annoying as it’s central plot line was to show off how cute she was.
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That episode wasn't bad
Abby Elliott as Zooey Deschanel was pretty great.
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Whoa, I just realized a fundamental change. Blond haired, blue eyed girls used to be my type, yet Jordana and Paula were the first ones to pop into my head when I thought of the hottest chicks- two brown haired, brown eyed beauties. Hmmmm
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
We had this discussion two years ago bro. You’re over the whole “blonde thing” hence why you weren’t all that into Pipa Black from Outsourced (can’t believe I watched that) or Yvonne Strahovski from Chuck
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Yeah….there’s that. But sometimes her bad teeth make her look extra adorable which was perfect for her role as Sarah Walker
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I remember a discussion where everyone seemed to agree I that I was into blondes, but not what you’re talking about>
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Crap, who the hell was it then….I remember someone else on here watched the show Outsourced and we got to discussing the actresses of the show…hmm
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I did love Outsourced, and that chick on the show- Rebecca Hazlewood- is freaking fine.
Huh, maybe it was me.
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Her nose. HER NOSE!
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she wouldn’t be as hot without some imperfections
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
So very true….but her nose is a bit too distracting
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eh, I don’t mind it. like I said, I like the imperfections
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by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Now that I look at her again, it’s not as bad as I remembered it to be. She’s gorgeous though
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Brewster and Patton still win out, though
<3 my ladies Kanani and Britney
Thanks for the season, Niners. Welcome, Giants Baseball! I can't wait to cry every day again!!!
by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
I'd need to do more scouting to see what kind of arms they have
To this point, I’ve been concentrating on their legs.
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
I would mind a dragon at SS and a wizard at 2B
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
dragons tend to strike out a lot as they have a huge strike zone. Wizards also have a low OBP because nobody walks into first base
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 15, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Intriguing
go on…
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
But whose the catcher?
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Catch 'er? I hardly even know 'er
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
Whoa, I didn't realize it was that bad
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
It’s even worse than it looks, it has been all Milan. Forza Milano!
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Isn’t he still one of their best players?
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh. I’m not really sure why Koscielny came off but that didn’t help. Putting Henry on was most definitely the wrong choice.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 15, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Horribly managed game. Absolutely no leadership from Arsene. He spent most of the game sitting in his chair looking like a smug chump.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
From what I was able to watch, it easily could have been worse than 4-0. It’s so fucking frustrating.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 15, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
It was boring even as a Milan fan, I spent more of the game passing a ball around with my kid than actively watching.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
Well. It will sure be an exciting game if Arsenal can come back at the Emirates.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 15, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Well, blame yourself.
He’s one of your secret agents, CJCS.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Whence
= from where. “From whence” = from from where. It’s The Los Angeles Angels of adverbial phrases.
With apologies,
The Los English Major Dork Dicks of America.
by iamwhatiam on Feb 15, 2012 1:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Fantasy football is the reason I stopped rooting for teams anymore because I decided I’d rather win money than see a team get into the playoffs. That’s another reason not to play fantasy baseball
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 15, 2012 1:30 PM PST reply actions
Was this covered a couple of days ago?
Sorry about the late discovery.
Giants #2 Org in baseball in building through the draft.
It’s amazing what can happen when you get top 10 picks 3 years in a row and don’t miss on any of them.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
but Keith Law
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Really, in baseball you want to avoid the purgatory that is drafting 14-22
Either playoffs, or a high pick. The worst thing you can do is sort of win but not really, like the A’s.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
It's really not that terrible in baseball
You get so many picks and the development process is so long you’ve got a pretty decent chance of getting a sleeper or two. In basketball it seems particularly brutal.
The first six innings are overrated.
Basketball is the worst
But in Baseball there is usually a huge drop off in “can’t missability” after the top 8-10.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
really after the top 4
the nba draft is a crap shoot
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
San Francisco has been a perennial contender in the NL West for over a decade
LOLWUT
The first six innings are overrated.
It’s true if you don’t count the years where they weren’t.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
What do you mean "the years where they weren't"?
They were in that thing every single year. At least through the end of April.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
sort of true
didnt someone mention that if there had been two wildcards in each league the giants would have made the playoffs 7 times in the 00’s?
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Saw this on ESPN a couple weeks ago.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I think the Rays are just a well-run franchise, not a team that I think of that builds well through the draft
<3 my ladies Kanani and Britney
Thanks for the season, Niners. Welcome, Giants Baseball! I can't wait to cry every day again!!!
by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
They had a shit-ton of #1 overall picks.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
They’re kinda both, which is terrifying. Then again they pretty much have to be, considering their division and their payroll.
The first six innings are overrated.
Wow, the average per player is really low, but that is some damn fine drafting with possibly the best (Bummy/Belt/Posey) yet to come!
Also that list doesn’t include PANDA!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Who has been worth 14 WAR!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Feb 15, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
ffffffffffff
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I drafted Bumgarner and then a few rounds later Cain was still available. There’s a guy who tried to draft as many Giants as he could and I want to give him Bumgarner and Cain, but his team is pretty miserable, you know, since it’s mostly Giants. I want to trade those two players because I have a terrible superstition about having Giants on my team. The one year I drafted Barry Bonds was in 1999. Never again. I don’t want this to be the end of Cainania or Bumgarneranity and I stupidly believe having them on my fantasy team will be their undoingseseseses.
question?
If i get espn on my xbox but live in the warriors market
can i still watch tonites warriors game?
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 1:54 PM PST reply actions
OT: LOL WHUT
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
by Kitspool on Feb 15, 2012 1:55 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
Amazing.
Rec.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
BAHAHAHAHA
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Must... resist...
the idea of everyone in that picture outside of the Florida player having that face.
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
This guy defintely found his thing in life
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
Poor guy that has to sit behing him
Reminds me of the time I went to a WWF match at Oakland with a gigantic sign
“The Kid Behind Me Can’t See”
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
That would be hilarious
if the kid behind that sign was a John Cena fan.
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
this is scary as fuck
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
/crying from laughing so hard
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Feb 15, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
I have not found a league to play in this year.
I won my first year and got my ass kicked last year.
So alone...
Twitter
you can join our league, but its only for people who A) don’t care or B) suck at fantasy baseball
<3 my ladies Kanani and Britney
Thanks for the season, Niners. Welcome, Giants Baseball! I can't wait to cry every day again!!!
by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I’m in (B) (absolute newbie to fantasy baseball), so where do I sign up?
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
We’re gonna open the league today I think
<3 my ladies Kanani and Britney
Thanks for the season, Niners. Welcome, Giants Baseball! I can't wait to cry every day again!!!
by giant4life83 on Feb 15, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Best Job Description Ever
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/eng/2850247216.html
When you do get rolling, we fully expect you to be able to change tires without stopping. There’s an old NatGeo special about cattle farmers in South America which pertains quite closely to the position we have for you. The ranchers must get the herd to market, crossing piranha infested streams along the way. To limit losses, they select one of the herd, take it upstream, and push it in. If there are no piranha, the cow swims across and the herd is led to join it. If there are piranha, they attack the sacrificial animal and the herd can cross below while the fish are occupied. As low person on the development totem pole, you will be our designated “upstream cow.” Your immense experience in PHP, AJAX, jQuery, CSS, JavaScript and cross-browser compatibility will be widely admired as we ask you to hard code HTML out of expediency. Since we need to generate millions of product description pages, you will be busy.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Sign me up! All I need is mastery of five different languages, HTML hard coding, and the willingness to get eaten by piranhas! The pay must be great.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Actually, Grant had a very well written takedown of the Giants handling of the Molina vs. Posey issue as it was happening
But to remember that assumes that anyone reads what that loser writes!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 2:06 PM PST reply actions
It's half-joking statements like these
that inspire him to roll daily posts into work-mandated advertisements.
6 hours @ 450 degrees! You’r gonna have a house fire. Either that or a dry ass troll.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
So….you prefer cake?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
by Mdizzle138 on Feb 15, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
LOLWarriors
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
Three-Point Shootout participants announced: James Jones, Mario Chalmers, Kevin Love, Ryan Anderson, Anthony Morrow, Joe Johnson.
Ryan Anderson? Kevin Love? No Klay Thompson, Steph Curry or hell even the dude that shoots three pointers at a better rate than Dwight Howard dunking the ball? What’s his name? Brandon Rush something or other? Sheesh
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Brandon Rush is shooting over 50% from distance.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
James Jones is still alive?
Eh, all of those guys can shoot, whatever.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
morrow had to leave the warriors to make it into the competition
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Love is the elephant in the room there.
Love’s not top-25 in 3-pointers made [b]or[/b] 3-point percentage.
For the record:
Jones is in because he’s the defending champion.
Anderson is in because he’s leading the league in 3-pointers made (a whopping 80, 19 more than second on the list).
Morrow and Chalmers are top-10 in 3s made (Morrow’s tied for third, Chalmers tied for seventh).
I guess Johnson’s a smaller elephant; he’s 13th on the list of 3s made.
I’m also surprised with no Ray Allen. Seriously, until that guy retires, the NBA might need to forever reserve a spot in the three-point contest just for him.
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
(Eww, I don’t like the formatting tags here. Much different than other boards.)
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
All you need is Love.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Kevin Love is Mike Love's nephew
of the Beach Boys. He was the scary grandpa pointing at people at the Grammys.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
is peja still playing?
I used to feel the same way about him
so long as he is playing let him in
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
I do believe he retired after last season.
Got his ring, hung it up.
Personally, I’d like to see Vince Carter in this competition. He’s eighth in 3-point percentage. I mean, the guy used to headline the slam dunk competition for years, and now he’s shooting threes?
Official adoptive parent of... well, no one. Too much paperwork, I guess.
He converted into a three point shooter pretty much in his 2nd or 3rd year
I think he was only in the dunk contest that one year, then he pretty much went soft.
And apparently Allen Iverson is completely broke now.
Just goes to show how fleeting superstardom can be in sports. One day you could have an “insanity” pun on your name, the next, you’ll be a broken down joke.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Holy shit!
Tater-tots, dipped in Sriracha.
Awesomest.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
by bigboneded on Feb 15, 2012 2:37 PM PST via mobile reply actions
For lunch today, I had a Gyro with Sriracha instead of Tzatziki. Pretty damn good.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Incidentally, the Giants ranked 17th on the "Future Power Rankings" list posted on ESPN
Which attempts to judge organization’s futures using factors of Majors/Minors/Finances/Management/Mobility.
Giants Blurb:
The lowdown
Great pitching can mask a lot of deficiencies, and the Giants have plenty of both. They took a big gamble in July when they traded top prospect Zack Wheeler to the Mets for pending free agent Carlos Beltran in hopes of a repeat. Beltran was fantastic for San Fran, but the Giants still came up short.
Now they’re without their best pitching prospect, Beltran is in St. Louis, Matt Cain is set to be a free agent next winter and Tim Lincecum the year after that. The Giants will contend this year, but they are a club that could see its ranking change significantly in the next year or two if they can’t keep their top two starters in town. — Buster Olney
YOU SHOULD ALL JUST BUY ESPN INSIDER.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
YOU SHOULD ALL JUST BUY ESPN INSIDER.
Nobody asked you to post it.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Or, better yet
Thanks for posting! I appreciate the effort
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You know what would have been cool?
Carlos Beltran
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
You know what would have been significantly less cool?
Melky Cabrera
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
i got insider and the mag for a dollar
it was a pretty cool deal they did around xmas time
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
I have an ESPN mag subscription and I don’t know why. Really, I never ordered one. I never use the website. The issues keep arriving and I’m still confused. They even sent me letters saying my subscription is up and should renew. I missed one issue before they started coming in again. So weird.
i bought a 5 dollar deal a few years back
and when it ran up i canceled
then they sent me this thing in the mail saying i could have a year for a dollar
i felt bad for them so i sent them my dollar
i dont really read the mag but the insider is cool beans
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Insider is really good to have if you want to read about teams that aren’t in NY or Boston
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 15, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
what does mobility mean?
like fan base or literally the ability of the team to move?
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crap they are still making new episodes of Arthur.
/goes back to cooking
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
OT: I just bought a can of Very Cherry Mixed fruit in syrup..
Why was it all Peaches? I’m so confused.
"I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey, on how to gun down stolen base attempts
For all those Office/Dr. Who fans out there, Catherine Tate finally shows up in tomorrow’s episode. First time I’ve looked forward to something on that show in awhile. Still, not necessarily as cool as Officer Dave returning to P&R.
Officer Dave > Ben Wyatt
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 15, 2012 3:20 PM PST reply actions
Henry & Casey 4eva!
(for real, though. Adam Scott has way more chemistry with Lizzy Caplan than he does with Amy Poehler)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 15, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
for all those star trek/doctor who fans an officially recognized crossover event is happening
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Feb 15, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
But Ben likes Game of Thrones!
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
97
Only after I plug up her waterway with my finger.
by Cap M on Feb 15, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dutch oven?
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
While the merits of Crawford vs. Other at SS and Molina vs. Posey for two months are thrilling debates
I feel a little played out on those subjects. So here’s a list of all the trades the Giants have made, ever. According to Baseball-reference. I haven’t double checked all of these, so I won’t attest to its perfect accuracy. Your challenge: to find a suitable subject for outrage/adulation in that list. The farther back, the better.
I’m going to go with the three way trade with Pittsburgh and Cincinnati as a fantastic, forgotten swap. We dumped Moose McCormick off to the Pirates where he did okay, before dropping out of the game entirely for several years. After a while we nabbed him again for some very successful part time duty starting in 1908. The Giants got Mike Donlin, while the Reds got stuck with Jimmy Sebring, who was a failed prospect at that point.
Mike Donlin went on to be brilliantly successful with the bat, giving the Giants a 155 OPS+ over the various seasons he spent with them. There was some downside, such as when he quit the team to give vaudeville life a try for several years in his prime, but he still provided about 15 wins in roughly 3 seasons worth of at bats.
We ought to try ripping off Pittsburgh and Cincinnati some more. It seems like a sound strategy.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Maybe I am just calloused as a Warriors fan.
Nothing could be worse than the trade history of the Warriors.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Well
The draft history of the Warriors is much MUCH worse
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Question.
Can any number of good trades ever make up for trading away (or rather, selling) Babe Ruth?
by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 15, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
if your franchise is successful thereafter.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Well, I wouldn’t even say the Giants have a bad trade history. They were pretty good at piling on the talent for a lot of their history. Really they only had two extended periods of horrible teams, first in the 40’s and then in the 70’s-80’s.
Trading away George Foster was kinda dumb..
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Ahhh, Samuel Adams Noble Pils. About as thirst-quenching a beer as you’ll find.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
I wish Sam Adams would get their shit together and ship something to the west coast other than their flagship meh.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
West Coast microbrews > Sam Adams
Pyramid, Deschutes, Red Hook are all comparable in quality and price.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Stone IPA is delicious. Unfortunately I just haven’t taken a liking to Ruination.
The first six innings are overrated.
yah ruination is great.
I’m enjoying a Racer 5, still one of my favorite beers after all these years.
That is definitely a good one. I really love their Rye IPA, too.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
I just had one for the first time at Red Robin of all places last month. Good stuff. Great with a burger.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
I had never seen it before! I did see it last week at the New Leaf market; I’ll probably pick some up for the weekend or to take to Tahoe.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Manny's Pale Ale is my favorite beer ever
but it’s only on draft up here in Seattle. I don’t think they bottle it.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Now that is some shit that I wish was available in my area.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
What’s funny about Sam Adams is I don’t like their regular beer but always seem to love their seasonal ones.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I like the regular Boston Lager, and I’m glad I do, because that’s as good a beer as a lot of bars will serve.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
My go-to is Stella. Either that or whatever hefeweizen they may have.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I’ve become a huge hefeweizen fan. I love the Paulaner and the Pyramid.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
I just had some Anchor Steam Brekle’s Brown. SO GOOD.
I drink all kinds of brews – have found several I love.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
I like beer
I’ve got one of the Dogfish Head’s 120 min IPAs tucked away in my closet. Going to let it age awhile. I hear it’s nearly undrinkable!
Ask me about my blog.
Grant on CHC someday?
I’m watching rob neyer on CHC and it made me wonder if we will ever see Grant or Sullivan guest on a show like this. Let the snarky comments commence.
by Daver321 on Feb 15, 2012 3:53 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Cock Hat Chronicles.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Clubhouse confidential on MLB network
by Daver321 on Feb 15, 2012 3:55 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Holy shit!
You had Jerry DiPoto!
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The guy who just signed Albert Pujols!
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Inside The Clubhouse is on now
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 4:01 PM PST reply actions
How inside?
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same one as last night (which was enjoyable)
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TWSS
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Clay Hensley looks like a bookeeper
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Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Matt Cain bought Affeldt something called a Slice-O-Matic and put it in his locker.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Lolbrey said a bunch of nothing
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Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
My Bustercrush has been renewed.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 15, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
And then
Look at his 2011 stats /wince
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Hey
2.3 oWAR the last two years for $13 million!
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This Fangraphs glossary is great
It answers the question I’ve always had. What are the averages for advance stats.
Well, there goes the day.
Changing my sig and closing the window to actually try and get something done these last 45 minutes.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
Nice
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I just finished doing stuff. Now there’s more stuff to do.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I've never participated in fantasy (insert sport here) until...
this past football season when a friend found himself sans computer, so I offered to help. He ended up winning, (thankyouverymuch!) & thinks I should have my own team next year-in the words of Detective Emerson Cod, OH, HELL NO!
But the “Fantasy League For People Who Don’t Care or Wanna Pretend To Know What They’re Doing” that was being battered around up thread sounds, intriguing! If it’s free…LOL poor
off to bake cookies for the kids at school cuz well cookies>cake>pie yeah, I SAID IT!
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
ShiftA Senior Circus
don’t have time to read the entire thread, but once again…. if you were in Mr. Merope’s NL only Senior Circus league last season you should be getting something soon asking you if you want to participate again. I think he only does like 8 teams [cuz it’s NL only]. Please respond so that he can open it up to others if there are to be spaces available.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I would very much like to join if there is an opening
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
If there are openings one of us will put up a fanpost asking who wants in. I know he had a date in mind for people getting back to him, but I don’t remember what it was. And things may be subject to change.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Haven’t heard anything yet – let me know when he’s going to send it out.
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Stoopid lazy bunny. Fire his ass.
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sup
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Hey
Have you watched that Worst Cook in America show…I think it’s my new favorite show on Food Network.
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not yet but I want to
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
this is all I think of now when someone says “hey, girl” (Disney but NSFW-language!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcuI6K9daIw
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
Works for me.
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BRANDON CRAWFORD!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Tortured,
Do you crochet at all?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I was thinking that might be a good hospital recovery, I’m waiting to go home thing to do. I haven’t crocheted since like 8th grade, you know back when yarn was spun from the fur of sabertooth tigers…. I think I remember the very basics, and at least at the hospital the cat wouldn’t be there to “help”.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
There's lots of great instructional video for crafts on the interwebs.
I’ve learned a bunch of new knitting techniques on youtube.
2012 is going to be awesome!
cool
I’ll have to look at that.
My mom was reminding how she used to crochet scarves and hats and then send them to some nuns at some reservation in the southwest – somewhere where it gets cold in the winter I suppose.
I think hats might be beyond me, but I betcha I could do scarves.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I used to love to do it but, crocheting and cats don’t make good houseguests. I came home once and Kili [the cat before this one] had unraveled a whole skein of crocheting. Then again that cat thought it was a hoot to go in the bathroom and tear the wrappers off of all of my tampons.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’d just like to say that I have never had a cat that tore the wrappers off my tampons.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
She’s mad at me at the moment I came home with my hands full, couldn’t see her and stepped on her tail.
Bad catmom!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
She'll be mad when you get home from the hospital, too.
But she’ll probably get over it quickly. Cats become very attentive to sick people. It’s because they’re predators. (But your cat probably does love you, in her way.)
2012 is going to be awesome!
All cat owners should read this.
I can’t look at my cat the same way. Lousy murderous bastard.
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are they as talkative as rumored?
my kitty’s in my icon thingy over there —>
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
This is mine
He’s very chatty. Talks all the time.
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D'AWWW KITTEH
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
We refer to her as the heat seeking missle. Usually she follows me around the apartment, tonight she is sulking.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Better check her litter box.
You can’t leave anything in there for them to kick out when they’re in a bad mood. Also, hide your socks.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Is he playing well tonight? We dvr’d the game and were going to watch it whenever the Mr. gets home.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
6 points, 9 assists at the half
Kings are down big
"I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey, on how to gun down stolen base attempts
6 points, 9 assists, 1 turnover at half.
2-4 shooting, so it looks like he’s been mostly passing the ball off.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
Holy Shit Lin has a legitimate shot at 20 assists today
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Mike Montgomery was just on local radio
he said Lin probably didn’t get any college offers because he weighed 130 lbs coming out of HS.
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 5:42 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I don't buy it
He’s 6’3" right? That’s like, impossible. Unless maybe he was 5’7" coming out of HS and had a big growth spurt.
It’s not impossible. I was 5’10" in high school and I weighed about 140ish.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 15, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a big difference. 5’10" and 6’3"
I was 6’2" 170 in HS and there was no way I could have been any skinnier.
If you take a baseline of 6’ 200lbs for a guy, every 7 inches is about 20 lbs more. So 4" height to someone is about another 70 lbs.
My point is, 3-4 inches is a big difference (TWSS). I can believe 5’11" 125 (although that is underweight according to BMI) but 6’3" 130 is admit to ICU immediately territory.
That was my fighting weight! I was in a lot better shape then….
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
No way
i’m probably about 6’3", 180. And that’s after putting on a little weight.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 15, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t mean to argue 6’3 130, especially since it looks to have been more or less debunked… But you’d be surprised by how much skinnier people can be. If not 130, than 150 is not outside of reason.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
It's definitely thin, but not nearly ICU territory.
I’m was nearly there for a while: 6’2" and 135-140 lbs.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Wooow skinny. I’ve been 6’ 185 since like 10th or 11th grade
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
We tried to reverse engineer a calorie counting website to try and help him gain weight on year.
Didn’t help that he had zero nutrition in his diet and had some background genetic stuff going on.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
Probably not.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Does your weight fluctuate much with running? Mine has pretty much stayed the same for the past 10 years mostly because I’m doing the almost the same rugby related work out.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
I wasn’t thinking he was 6’2" coming out of high school.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 15, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
That’s decent size for a PG….and he led his team to the CIF championship with only 1 loss the entire season I think.
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Nytimes article say that he was no more that 6’1" 170 lb
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 6:06 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
ESPN article
say that his brother was 5’10" 135 as a freshman in college
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 6:08 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
His brother isn't him though.
"I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey, on how to gun down stolen base attempts
hey
I didn’t say it
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 6:10 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
because they are the same person right
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
how is this relevant
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
When has that ever stopped one of his posts?
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by can of corn on Feb 15, 2012 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Ivy League schools don’t give scholarships.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
If you make it into Harvard, they will pay your way if you can’t afford it.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 15, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Based on what I know about him, he can.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Oh, wait, sorry. I thought we were talking about El Person.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Yeah, there's no way they would give me money based on that
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Yeah they do.
It’s just not official. I know a couple of people who went to Ivy League schools on scholarships that were not “athletic.”
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
the ESPN article
with his HS coach was pretty good
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 6:12 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I wish to god it would
I really do.
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Yeah, I wish there were some way to hide threads here.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
If I did that today, I think there would only be 4 threads visible.
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Not wanting to hear about him every ten fucking minutes on every media outlet and here too does not equal being down on him.
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Congrats!
What will you be doing?
"I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey, on how to gun down stolen base attempts
Congrats!!!!
Yay, for good news!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Well the blood tests that came back indicated that I don’t have a cholesterol problem, my liver is working, and I’m not pregnant, so there’s that anyway.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Trifecta!
Also: I just got news today that my cat is doing way better than we thought. She had lost about 25% of her body weight over the past week and a half, and she was really lethargic and weak. We were so worried that her kidneys were failing.
Turns out the vet thinks it’s just a cold. They prescribed antibiotics, and she immediately showed improvement after one dose. She also started drinking water.
The blood panel came back today and her kidneys and liver are fine. So we’re in a wait-and-see mode right now, to let the antibiotics run their course.
The vet also gave us some wet food for her to try, and she finally ate. I hadn’t seen her eat anything in a week. Not even cat treats. I’m in a good mood today.
wow
Go you.
Where do you live again? I uh, think I’m going to drive over to your house and …no wait, I can’t say that here, you people are all pervs.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
oh hahah, wow.
I think that’s actually a different person who would handle that type of graphic, anyway.
Well, please don't let them do such a shitty job
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
NICE!
Now we know who to blame for errors =P jk Congrats on getting the job!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Slip in a McC meme into the graphics every night! Please? =P
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
like so
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
by El Person on Feb 15, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
BINGO
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Please do good ones involving FIP, OPS+ and other new metrics.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 15, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
’grats!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Say hi to Baggs and Jaymee for us!
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
Before I sit you down at your desk, I just have a quick question to ask you. Have you ever heard of “McCovey Chronicles”?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Nope. I’m sure they do that on their own. At least, outing themselves. I’m sure it would be a headache they don’t want.
Though when I was an intern there last year, I asked Michael Urban to tell me more about Zito.
He wasn’t amused.
HA!
Oooooh! Now you can find out what Baggs’ username is!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
HI DAVE
Did we ever get a screen cap of that?
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
I played Fantasy for the first time last year.
I did not do well.
I did not draft Dodgers, or anyone from the NL West, for that matter.
I grabbed Timmy, Matt, Romo, Pat, and Freddy. Yes, lol me, but it did make it easier for me as a beginner to keep track of starts.
As a rule, I did not start any players who were facing the Giants that day;
I didn’t want to see a guy do well against them and think, “Hey, at least”.
I probably won’t be doing it again this year.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I found myself gleefully starting some players facing the Giants when Zito started. I felt bad about myself afterwards, but it was generally a good idea.
One should never say “Hey, at least. . .” That’s just tacky. Vile. Classless.
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Small bit of advice: Don’t talk smack if you can’t back it up. smh
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
By that I mean the yahoo “smack talk” section
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
My smack talk consisted mostly of “Crap I’m stoopid. Why did I bench the guy that just hit 4 HRs in that game.”
I don’t think I’m doing it right.
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LOL
nope nope that throws people off their game. Makes em underestimate you!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Right, yes. I just didn’t even want it to occur to me. Even in passing. My heart, it is fragile.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I wondered if there was a proper way to phrase it, but I figured it was immateria.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Pokemonz
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Yessss we were thinking of the same one. VII forever.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
why the shit did I read so much of that Crawford discussion?
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 15, 2012 6:00 PM PST reply actions
A penance of some sort for some serious transgression in your life?
Because I can’t think of any other reason for why the hell I did.
It was truly awful.
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Maybe I was responsible for Rowand, or the Hellblazer movie, or St. Anger, and I only realize it subconsciously. Sorry, everyone!
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 15, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t particularly aimed your way. . .
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o hai!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Or yours. . .
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I stopped reading way back when Belt whining morphed into Molina/Posey rehash.
2012 is going to be awesome!
And now for something completely different. . . OT:
Dinner tonight?
I’m planning on sloppy joe’s made fancy with chipotle in adobo sauce paste added, and served on gourmet buns with a side of chipotle-seasoned sweet potato fries.
Hopefully it’ll push the lamb korma smell out of the house (which turned out magnificently, btw).
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crab!!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
cracked and cleaned.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
and I’m about to make some cocktail sauce
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
some people like it warm with butter. but they haven’t left their heart in san francisco.
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
wow, really, is that even possible? That sounds awesome. chilled butter with lemon and mayo? alright, next time i eat crab i try
more leftover indian food
it’s losing its charm but i’m not gonna waste perfectly okay leftovers.
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 15, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
souplantation
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 6:14 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
bean burritos
rice
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Feb 15, 2012 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
Rice, meat, vegetables
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RAW EGGS
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SALMONELLA
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
COOKIE DOUGH
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ICE CREAM
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
for dinner???
what about cookies
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Cookies? How about brownies too?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
how bout this?
One server, aka “nurse,” told Fox5 in Las Vegas that the man — who reportedly had been eating a triple bypass burger — began having chest pains, sweating and shaking. Calls to the restaurant went unanswered Wednesday.
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/facepalm
Anytime food references a heart attack or stroke or cheesecake factory…back away
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
yea… seriously, and the menu is just bad
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Horrible concept, horrible theme, horrible menu
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
horrible people
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horrible parking
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Hahahaha. Good point
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Horrible city /ducks
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Horrible ducks
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Don’t think i’ve seen any horrible ducks, Darkwing Duck?
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I am the terror that flaps in the night
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
"sick people food" as my mom calls it
chicken soup, saltine crackers, and jello!
/meh
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
awwww feel better, that’s an order!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
UR NOT THE BOSS OF ME!
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she wasn’t talkin to you, Pika! =P
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
Stop infringing on his Constitutional Right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
hush u
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
oh right you weren’t here for that discussion this morning
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I read it, I liked the part that said Freedom of Speech is often confused with Freedom from consequence
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
I WILL PICK THE CHEVRON CARS THEN
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fine! have em, I didn’t want em any way
/runs away, laughing maniacally
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
WAIT NO!!! damn! what about Panik!??!
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You realize someone is trying to trade away Vogey right? If no one on my big board is available…I think I may trade my pick
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Maybe i might trade away my first pick
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I’ll trade you my pick this year and my pick next year for your pick this year. LOL
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
WHO ARE YOU, THE WARRIORS!?!?
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Ok fine! I’ll make it a 2014 Top 7 protected pick!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Give me klay, ekpe, and rush as well
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thanks :) I’m going back to work tomorrow cuz I can’t stands sitting around the house no more!!!!
btw, how you doin’? (trying not to sound like Joey from Friends…lol)
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
I’m cranky and annoyed.
I’ve been in any pain or physical discomfort except for at …. ahem… certain times of the month. So yeah, cranky and annoyed.
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:( sorry merope
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Sorry :( I’ve got it!!! you should get one of those blow up Bozo punching bags and write Kaiser on it and give it the beating of a lifetime! Sure would make me feel better! ;D
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
But those punching bags bounce back to whack you in the face o_o
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
nah, Merope’s a hockey fan, she’s got moves one can only learn from guys like Thorton ;)
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
I’ve always wondered if they take boxing/fighting lessons. I mean most of it does consist of “pull sweater over dudes head” “pull off their helmet”
Seems like they could get by just taking a class in how to undress other people
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SCREW YOU KAISER
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and yeah the sitting around blows.
Luckily next week I have some time at the little school up the street from me. half days subbing wed, thurs, and friday so that’ll come as a bit of a relief. or at least a change of pace.
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Gets you out and doing something. Especially instead of just sitting there around the house
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plus it takes your mind off things
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Well I spent about 3 hours at the gym today and another hour walking at the nature center. I almost got a red tailed hawk [picture of one that is] darn thing flew away and I don’t think I got it. I need to get those photos off the camera, totally forgot about that.
I definitely “shot” some deer.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
oh good point.
you do already get out and do things. You do photography?
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but the nature center near the house is makes it so easy to take photos, I mean most of the animals are about bored silly with people so you can get rrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal close to some of them.
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well that's definitely pretty cool
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oh snap!
Was almost thinking you were doing something like the 365 project, where you just submit a photo a day to something, and that’s what my girlfriend’s mom is doing
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that sounds interesting but our photos are pretty low quality. I was going to do a poem a day thing but I kinda got all side tracked with that.
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yea... don't have to really doanything BUT take pictures
and yea… her quality is pretty good, probably because she is a photographer, but anybody can sign up for it
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VERY pretty, absolutely loved the photos of the pacific northwest
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thanks,
we both took those that was the summer of 2010. One day hiking in the gorge we saw 18 waterfalls. Amazing. We like waterfalls.
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Beautiful. Yea, something i loved about the pacific northwest was that there were so many waterfalls. Plus that’s one reason i always bring a camera on a trip is because you never know what you might see
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Feel better!
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
thanks :) now stop yelling at Merope! (please)
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch."
"Holy shit, you geeks are badass!"
i will! :D
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hahaha, we always yell
IT’S A LITTLE THING WE DO.
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Giants Baseball: SCREAM THERAPY!
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
As long as you add enough bacon and cheese, it should taste just fine.
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Ha!
I did load it up with pickles and jalapenos (which are “free” on WW), plus some soy cheese. It was pretty tasty, actually.
@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
never done weight watchers… usually it was nutrasystems for me, meh
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WW is your own food, instead of that prepackaged stuff.
@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.
should've done that, damn. Such a better idea.
plus is it also basically portion control?
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Omg that sounds soooo good!
I made Crème de moules au safran earlier tonight.
Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!
OT: ESPN Poll on the DH
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=mlb&pollId=133414
The results are somewhat interesting, if predictably regional in places.
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the rest of the world gets it.
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LOL Clown Ball.
Well, that poll completely invalidates what Radnich was saying this morning about “needing to add the DH to the NL” At least I think it was Radnich…
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I really don’t want the DH to be imposed on the NL. It’s becoming an increasingly irrelevant position. Kill it with fire altogether.
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seriously
so many AL teams are fielding shitty DHs, it’s becoming a worthless position
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
SI did a really good article on it last year. It’s basically become a below-average spot in the line-up. It may extend the careers of some slower power hitters, but is it really worth keeping in place to keep 15-16 guys employed? I’m sure there are many AL teams that would rather have a more useful utility guy on the roster instead of a stone-legged slugger past his hitting prime.
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nah, it'll be like the Wild Card
Two DHs!
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So like the opposite of the Giants, who have two pitcher-caliber hitters in each line-up (with only one actual pitcher).
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There was a game against the Reds last year where Jonathan Sanchez seriously might have been the fifth-best hitter in the lineup.
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I mentioned this a few thread ago, but Sanchez outslugged like a half-dozen people with 50+ PAs for the team.
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You mean those doubles and triples he would pull out of nowhere?
I wonder if anyone has had the nerve to say MadBum, “Hey man, I thought you were supposed to be a good hitter. What gives?”
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
GAME 162
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
He slugged .345, with an ISO of .138. More obvious underachievers aside, that was a better SLG than Andres Torres, and only two points shy of Aaron Rowand.
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Well that’s embarrassing….
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
I'm sad he's going to the American League
His swing is so bad, but it generates so much power.
Also, Game 162. Does someone have a GIF of that triple?
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Among the other, more obvious reasons I why have come to enjoy Clubhouse Confidential on MLB Network is Brian Kenny’s habit of saying things like ’Let’s assume we’re talking about real baseball and there are nine players on a side’.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
Also, further proof that the Northeast is a lost cause.
We might as well just let them secede and form the sovereign nation of South Quebec.
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I’d like to think that Quebeckers have the good taste to disapprove of that shit.
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For debasing and devaluing their own stalled secession bid.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
1995’s probably as close as it’ll ever get. Secessionism seems spent as a political force.
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Unless you count the possibility of the EU going belly-up (probably through little fault of its own).
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Wouldn’t affect Quebec, would it?
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Oh, I thought you mean secessionism in general. Basques, Brittany, and all that.
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There’s going to be a referendum in Scotland on it in 2014, I believe.
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That was my first thought.
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I’m pretty sure if I called everyone I knew in, say, Montana, and got them to vote in that poll I could have flipped the result.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
It would only take 3 people in Alaska!
The results have been pretty consistent throughout the day overall, though.
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SHIFT-A!?
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?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Went for a 3 mile run, all i could smell all over the way to the beach was marijuana for some reason… seems like this whole area does it
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Aptos? ... yea, you're right, haha
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I’m going to assume you’re in The City? If so, that’s not unusual…but at the same time Ocean Beach just reeks in general. If not….where is this?
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
haha, nahhhh, but that's true as well. Think, more south... like over highway 17
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Wait….you’re surrounded by high school students. Oh to be young again…
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"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
SANTA CRUZ, haha
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You might be surprised how often the county building smells like pot in Santa Cruz.
2012 is going to be awesome!
haha, doesn’t surprise me.
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Reminds me of that Perd Hapley guy from Dallas exclaiming that they were smoking weed by the ballpark.
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that was one of the best things about the world series
by Lies and Perfidy on Feb 15, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
OMG, I want to watch game five again tonight.
But I think I’ll watch Top Chef instead.
2012 is going to be awesome!
A Trip Down Memory Lane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buQ6p7L766Q
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I had a similar experience whilst walking around during lunch break. It was at 3rd and Mission.
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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 15, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
wow... 13 assists
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6 turnovers
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If this is what I think it is, can we make a Diary and put all discussion of that there? It’s not as though it’s coming up organically.
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+1
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(unlike that time I banged Eartha Kitt in an airplane bathroom)
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i wasn't gonna delve anymore into it
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Now that I'm home from work, I could find the image referenced in the last thread
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
I don't play fantasy baseball any more
I got bored with it. It took too much time. Whatever.
Anyway, I played three years in a row. Each year I won the league. I never had a single dodger on my teams. Coincidence? I think not.
(Admittedly, one of the years I won by dropping and picking up players to improve a couple of categories in the final week of the season. Cheap? Yes. Worked? Yes. Guilty? No.)
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 15, 2012 6:30 PM PST reply actions
So... the Adele song "Rollin' in the Deep"
What in the world does that mean?
"I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey, on how to gun down stolen base attempts
Sounds like something that happens after pirates make you walk the plank.
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I was actually thinking this
"I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey, on how to gun down stolen base attempts
She's talking about the time she was rolled around in flour
And they had to go deep to find the wet spot.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 15, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
OH C'MON
"I don’t know, just chuck it as hard as you can".-Buster Posey, on how to gun down stolen base attempts
Uncool
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Would to like to have a roll in zee hay?
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As far as I can tell
It’s kind of like “rolling deep”,
In that someone has your back, you’re set, etc.
She talked about it in an interview.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Found it!
Like “Rolling in the Deep,” the phrase “rolling in the deep” is sort of my adaptation of a kind of slang, slur phrase in the UK called “roll deep,” which means to have someone, always have someone that has your back, and you’re never on your own, if you’re ever in trouble you’ve always got someone who’s going to come and help you fight it or whatever like that. And that’s how I felt in the relationship that the record’s about, especially “Rolling in the Deep.” That’s how I felt, you know, I thought that’s what I was always going to have, and um, it ended up not being the case.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Welp, just sent out the invitation emails for the MCC paid league I'm trying to run
Out of 16 people, I bet 7 make a team, and I’m the only one who pays.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
good luck?
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I can't attest to the quality of the nerds
But the league is institutionally straw hatted. We countin’ RBIs up in here.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Use SABR principles to try to predict straw hat performance.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
ew gross
We should have a saberpokemonz league. What stats could we use?
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The usual ones. The league would be designed to reward having the most talented players.
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Yeah, stuff like that.
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It might actually be kind of cool to have a split league with identical rosters. One that is straw-hatty, and one that is SABR-y, and see how the results differ. Same starters and everything.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
That would be a cool exercise
Logically, sabremetrics would give you the best players, and they would get the best stats in either league. But if your league is heavily weighting pitcher winz and ribeyez, or you have a lot of marginal guys who are good at SABR but not jean sellers, then you might lose out.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 15, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
I've thought about it, but
I like the idea of using advanced baseball knowledge to predict performance in strawhat situations.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
hmm
There’s no reason you can’t do both in different leagues, is there?
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But then, like, what's the point
FIP is a better ERA predictor than ERA itself is, because it’s more stable and less prone to fluctuations. But the whole point of fantasy baseball is that you want to pick players that are going to be better than everyone else in the league thinks they’re going to be. The whole point of SABR is to try to get at the underlying truths that are missed by traditional metrics. But that’s less fun to play around with in fantasy.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
You still have to find the right players
See whether changes are sustainable or not, deal with risks and such, etc. I feel like it would be fun to try.
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I just paid!
So there’s another $40 towards your beach house in Cabo.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 15, 2012 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
This entire MCC persona has been built towards scamming this modest sum of money.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Does that make Brandon Crawford an accomplice?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 15, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
shit, that reminds me, i should pay for my other fantasy league
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At some point can we have a legend of which team is which MCC username? Even the email addresses don’t really point to who’s who except for mine. Maybe change team names to add MCC name in parentheses or something.
I suggested that people do that
My team name is my MCC name. I’ll try to set up something later.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
OT: Warriors game is on ESPN and CSN... decisions decisions
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who are the announcers?
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 7:03 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Jon Barry and some other guy... it's them or Fitz... i might already have found the answer
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exactly
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 7:07 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
New Twitter format
I would hate it, except that they switched the places where your user name and real name are, and that really bothers me.
I’m sitting here going…who the fuck is Otis Anderson?? Lol
well and it’s a pain in the patookis when you try to copy and paste a tweet from there onto here, it’s like wtf is all this extraneous crap?
….and don’t you have midterms to be studying for?
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Haha I had one at 10 this morning, and my last one is at 4 tomorrow afternoon. I’m taking a bit of a mental break, since I fell asleep in my 10-person discussion this evening. Which was embarrassing.
by free f.p. #14 on Feb 15, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
oopsy
better than falling asleep during the test though right?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That happened to me during a final my freshman year. Apparently one cannot go without sleep for two nights cramming for finals without consequences. Nodded off for some indeterminate time during my accounting final.
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Yeah, I’ve had it since I think December and I still hate it.
Listen, dude, I don’t know who “Michelle” is. I didn’t follow a “Michelle”.
And once someone changes their thumbnail I’m just like WHAT THE FUCK IS ANY OF THIS.
I dig the Connect tab, though.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
RB of the NY Giants
in the late 80s and early 90s
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 7:15 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
HARBAUGH
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The top 25 players in baseball in 2011 by wOBA times plate appearances
I have decided to call this wTB for Weighted Total Bases.
Name wTB Miguel Cabrera 300 Jacoby Ellsbury 294 Adrian Gonzalez 290 Joey Votto 290 Jose Bautista 289 Matt Kemp 289 Prince Fielder 282 Dustin Pedroia 276 Ryan Braun 272 C. Granderson 272 Ian Kinsler 268 Alex Gordon 264 Justin Upton 259 Robinson Cano 255 Michael Young 254 Hunter Pence 253 Albert Pujols 251 Mark Teixeira 247 Melky Cabrera 246 David Ortiz 245 Paul Konerko 245 A. McCutchen 244 Ben Zobrist 243 Michael Bourn 243
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so we basically traded for albert pujols
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Bourne is surprising
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by CalBear949 on Feb 15, 2012 7:35 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
All Giants by that measure
Name wTB Pablo Sandoval 177 Aubrey Huff 170 Cody Ross 148 N. Schierholtz 118 Andres Torres 118 Aaron Rowand 95 Miguel Tejada 87 Freddy Sanchez 82 Mike Fontenot 75 Pat Burrell 74 Carlos Beltran 70 Brandon Belt 66 Buster Posey 63 Jeff Keppinger 63 Eli Whiteside 59 B. Crawford 57 Chris Stewart 47 Manny Burriss 34 Mark DeRosa 29 Orlando Cabrera 29 Brett Pill 19 J. Christian 14 Ryan Vogelsong 14 M. Bumgarner 13 Matt Cain 13 Hector Sanchez 10 J. Sanchez 8 Bill Hall 8 Conor Gillaspie 7 Tim Lincecum 7 Darren Ford 4 Eric Surkamp 2 S. Casilla 1 Dan Runzler 1 Jeremy Affeldt 1 Guillermo Mota 1 Barry Zito 1 Ramon Ramirez 0 Steve Edlefsen 0 Javier Lopez 0 Ryan Rohlinger 0
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this measure seems slightly flawed
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
It penalizes you for hitting lower in the order and/or having bad teammates.
I promise not to argue incessantly about Brandon Crawford. Maybe.
It's intended purely for counting purposes
Anyway, for comparison, 2010:
Name wTB Aubrey Huff 259 Andres Torres 207 Pablo Sandoval 193 Juan Uribe 185 Buster Posey 163 Freddy Sanchez 157 Pat Burrell 127 Aaron Rowand 102 Edgar Renteria 84 N. Schierholtz 73 Bengie Molina 63 Travis Ishikawa 54 Jose Guillen 43 Eli Whiteside 43 Cody Ross 29 Matt Downs 27 Mark DeRosa 25 John Bowker 24 Mike Fontenot 21 Eugenio Velez 17 J. Sanchez 10 Tim Lincecum 10 M. Bumgarner 9 Barry Zito 8 Matt Cain 8 Ryan Rohlinger 4 Manny Burriss 2 Todd Wellemeyer 2 Denny Bautista 1 Darren Ford 0 Dan Runzler 0 Jeremy Affeldt 0 Sergio Romo 0 Guillermo Mota 0 Joe Martinez 0 Brian Wilson 0
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And, since I'm not done yet, the entire career of Barry Bonds
Season wTB 1986 167 1987 217 1988 229 1989 235 1990 267 1991 256 1992 287 1993 316 1994 212 1995 272 1996 306 1997 302 1998 303 1999 183 2000 278 2001 358 2002 334 2003 278 2004 332 2005 22 2006 202 2007 205 Total 5534
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
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more importantly, 27-20 warriors
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yes
although it differs from fan to fan whether or not its good or not
nah
Harbaugh’s more important
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basketball season
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
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Still more important.
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C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
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nah
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
we can argue ALL NIGHT MAN! LETS DO IT
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Pssst y'all been chopped
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FINE, El Person? NEXT THREAD, U AND ME
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Nah – feel free to hash it out here.
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