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Community Projection: Brandon Belt

Last year on Valentine's Day, this very site featured a community projection for Miguel Tejada. That seems like a perfect metaphor. So much tenderness (of the hamstrings). So many broken hearts. Those candy hearts taste like the rosin bag that Tejada would use to keep his hands dry. It all fits.

It's community-projection time! Maybe you don't think that needs an exclamation point. But I like these posts. They're excuses to talk about particular players. Of course the projections are going to be awful and inaccurate -- we're all idiots here -- but it gives us a chance to convene and decide which players we're optimistic about, and which players are supposed to be in the lineup. Remember when we were pessimistic about Aubrey Huff, and then the next year we were optimistic? That was awesome. The first time.

Star-divide

Going in alphabetical order, or something close to it, and alternating between hitters and pitchers gets us to the projection that'll make y'all research Molotov cocktails. Because as a reminder, Brandon Belt will not start this year. Maybe in September. Belt is projected to be one of the best hitters on the team by PECOTA and ZiPS, but the Giants have other plans.

Last year, Aubrey Huff didn't come into camp in the best shape of his life. He didn't come into came in the best shape of Ozzy Osbourne's life. His manager knew this and called him out on it after the season was over. Before that, Huff came into the season a little soft, he struggled, and he didn't lose his job. Them's just the facts. If Huff really is in great shape right now, I don't see how he'll lose his manager's faith now. It's not overly cynical to point that out.

Here's the thing, though: It wasn't that crazy last year. There's no shame in being an Internet know-it-all, but last season when we were clamoring for Belt to replace Huff, their rest-of-season projections weren't that dissimilar. Actually, they were eerily similar. They don't take into account the general squishiness that Huff was supposedly featuring, but Bochy felt more comfortable with the veteran. Considering past performance, it wasn't a ludicrous position to take.

While the rest-of-season projections were okay for Huff while he was swirling the bowl last year, they're not nearly as good for the upcoming season. When projection systems process a 34-year-old having the season like Huff had, they don't like it. PECOTA has Huff at .253/.320/.401, well below what they project for Belt (.255/.349/.429). ZiPS isn't as pessimistic about Huff, but Belt easily wins that round too.

At some point, Brandon Belt will be a better hitter than Aubrey Huff. That point was probably last March, but that's with the benefit of hindsight. But no matter which side of the rookie/veteran debate you're on, you have to admit that Belt will be a better hitter one day. Maybe it's when Belt is 34 and Huff is 44, but it'll happen. The important thing for the Giants is they figure out when that was/will be, and for them to make a deft transition.

You know, to make a nice, sensible transition from a veteran to his younger replacement.

The Giants. That's what the Giants will need to do.

*cough*

...

Hey, it could happen. There's a decent chance that either Huff or Nate Schierholtz will struggle, which would open up a spot for Belt. There's a chance that the Giants force a spot open with a trade. As silly as the whole situation was, the Giants really did trade Bengie Molina. They actually picked up a phone and sent him away to create a spot for Buster Posey. We can joke about the veteranophila, and we can grumble about why Molina was around in the first place, but when it came time to open a lineup spot for a rookie, they actually did it by trading a veteran. They're not totally unreasonable. Just mostly unreasonable.

It'd almost be worse for the Giants to make room for Belt based on spring-training performances. I'd take it, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be gross.

This is a dual projection, then -- you're projecting how Belt will do, but you're also projecting how the Giants will do.

Brandon Belt
AB: 321
HR: 14
AVG: .244
OBP: 339
SLG: .453

The projection would be higher if we know that Belt was going to have a job regardless of what happens in the spring. Like, say, Brandon Crawford. I'm wondering when it'll stop being amazing that the Giants are taking a completely hands-off approach with Crawford, who essentially skipped AAA, while taking their mood disorders out on Belt.

Or, you could ignore every word of this article and just go with this prediction: More yo-yoing.

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I’ll doubt Belt will get 300 ABs. I hope I’m wrong but I seriously doubt it.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

He got 187 last year...

…despite being injured and seemingly never playing. Dunno.

by Grant Brisbee on Feb 14, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’ll end up in the 250 range.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno about 300 ABs, but I’d expect he gets at least 300 PAs.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

why not 300 ABs? Is anyone blocking him in Fresno?

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by DJ Tofu on Feb 14, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No one in Fresno but Huff is blocking him at 1B and I just have a sinking feeling Pill will somehow block him.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Tofu's point is he'll get his 300 AB in Fresno!

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh. That sounds more realistic to me.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks, I need more practice on delivering jokes :)

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by DJ Tofu on Feb 14, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You know...

it’s just so cool to think Bochy is an idiot, he isn’t, Belt will get 500 ABs at first base in SF this year. Huff had to play ahead of Belt last year, (you morons) this year completely different set of circumstances.

by Billy Swift on Feb 15, 2012 10:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Larry Baer...

there’s your idiot.

by Billy Swift on Feb 15, 2012 10:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

You’re right. I’m such a moron. Glad I got that worked out now.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 15, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

My prediction

I will go apeshit 104 times this year when I read that Belt is not in the starting lineup.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

Going optimistic

450 ABs
HR: 18
AVG: .270
OBP: .360
SLG: .460

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by xanthan on Feb 14, 2012 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

No room in the lineup for this guy.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 14, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

thats about what I am thinking / hoping

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by foothillsfan on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

ditto

I’d go with a few less ABs, slightly lower OBP, slightly higher SLG, but I think that’s about right (assuming he isn’t BORK’d).

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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 14, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

400 ABs
HR: 14
AVG: .270
OBP: .355
SLG: .450

is what I would expect, and the above is what I’d hope

by xdorky on Feb 14, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 286
HR: 8
AVG: .271
OBP: 357
SLG: .444

Times I yell FUCK when one of these other jokers playing in his stead pops up on the first pitch: 244

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by NuschlerFace on Feb 14, 2012 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

I think this is the Goldilocks call— not too pessimistic, not too optimistic

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 14, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

This is why I ended diplomatic ties to Smugville.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

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by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

…said Neville Chamberlain.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Peace in our time!

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by Lyle on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The funny thing is, he was holding a lineup card in that iconic photo.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL!

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Just give us Poland, dammit!

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Serious question: is Jasenovac studied at all in the states?

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t recall ever learning about it.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Worse than Auschwitz

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

And it really isn’t taught in Europe either, which I find interesting.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Worse? It was a death camp. ‘Auschwitz’ proper was a slave labor camp, but when people say Auschwitz they usually mean the whole complex, including Birkenau. It was not worse than Birkenau, let alone the complex as a whole.

by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Worse. Read about it, faaaar more brutal. Unbelievable.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

More were slaughtered at Birkenau or Treblinka.

by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not talking about the numbers. I’m talking about how absolutely brutal it was. The preferred method of killing at Jasenovac involved using something called a srbosjek.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

This is starting to get a little Faces Of Death for my taste. I’ve read about it. I’ve also read about how Genghis Khan used to treat central Asian city-states when they tried to negotiate. The one thing you will not catch me doing is comparing the brutality of one to the other.

by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The thing is I’ve been to Auschwitz, I’ve seen the museum the quarters and it was obviously horrifying. The brutality at Jasenovac is just in another league, The memorial and museum in Croatia are horrifying and it is disturbing that so few people know about it.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

As I said, I’ve read about Jasenovac. The Balkans are a special place.

by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know if it’s Smug enough for my taste, to be honest.

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Kurwa!

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

spierdalaj!

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 442
HR: 24
AVG: .267
OBP: .352
SLG: .480

Never in doubt.

by TimLincecumIsGod on Feb 14, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

Brandon Belt
AB: 345
HR: 12
AVG: .256
OBP: .349
SLG: .429

Images of Belt sitting on the bench: 130

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

I think he plays more OF than 1b (which is insane) over Nate or because of a Melky injury

Brandon Belt
AB: 450
HR: 21
AVG: .270
OBP: .358
SLG: .433

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 1:00 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I’m sort of in this line, maybe not that he’ll be playing more OF, but I think problems in our outfield is going to lead to him getting more playing time.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 14, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Cody Ross, Aaron Rowand, Carlos Beltran, and Pat Burrell will no longer take away ABs from him

by xdorky on Feb 14, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither will Kevin Mitchell, Willie Mays, or Randy Winn

The Giants did get some new players in 2012 that will take ABs from Belt. Melky, Pagan, Blanco, Pill

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like this is trying very hard to pretend that the outfield is just as crowded as it was last year, which is practically impossible.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d say it is just as crowded. Rowand and Burrell were never everyday starters last year. Burrell missed significant time injured. Beltran was only a loaner at the end of the season. Going into 2012 the Giants added 2 OF that I think they plan on being everyday starters. They also added a 4th/5th OF in Blanco. Plus, they have thrown Pill into the mix. I do not clearly see more AB freed up for Belt this year.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus they keep talking about Posey playing some first.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

I’m mixing two topics here. One is a crowded OF. The other is a crowded OF + 1B taking ABs away from Belt.

I can concede that the OF might not be as crowded. I think OF + 1B is more crowded for Belt though in 2012.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Pill could be the deciding factor, but that is hopefully for good reasons.

I see Belt getting time at 1B and LF, which will help increase the opportunities for ABs.

by xdorky on Feb 14, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Pagan replaces Torres, so I didn’t mention him :)

by xdorky on Feb 14, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a just get in this line.

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by mhad on Feb 15, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Except for the OF part.

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by mhad on Feb 15, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Like you, I don't not think it's either Huff or Belt

I see (through my rose-colored glasses) Huff having a bounce-back year (mostly at 1b) with Belt starting most of the time in LF. Then he moves to 1B in the late innings. Guess who’s out of a starting job: Nate. Because, as good as he is defensively, he will never hit like a corner outfielder. Many of us ask, why don’t the Giants try him in CF? But no one in the organization ever answers the obvious question. So Nate comes in late in RF, moving Melky to LF and Belt to Ib.

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by wcovington on Feb 15, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's have some optimism

PA: 600
HR: 23
Avg: .285
OBP: .372
SLG: .445

by Nivra on Feb 14, 2012 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

I'm here

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I thik this is going to be IT!

I enjoyed that World's Championship so much, I think they should do it again.

by pastorjoe on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I "hope like hell" this is what happens

Hey if the FO can spout that crap, so can I.

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by nvsfg on Feb 14, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I worry that if he hits .244, the Giants will ignore the OBP and the SLG and he’ll never play again.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 14, 2012 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

Or gets traded for a reliever.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

This is, also, likely.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 14, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

a lefty reliever

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by camwoody on Feb 14, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what I was thinking. Can’t hit above .250? Bench. Trade for another bullpen lefty.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 14, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless, you’re Brandon Crawford.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 14, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So will I.

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by xanthan on Feb 14, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

me three

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re confusing shocked with ecstatic.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no double standard there. They’ll ignore OBP and SLG just the same.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention the fact that as a shortstop, the bar is much lower for offense.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

So... why isn't he starting?
Belt is projected to be one of the best hitters on the team by PECOTA and ZiPS

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

that's pretty depressing

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would that matter?

Huff will either play OF or 1B. Same as Belt

After August 14, Belt played in 31 of last 41 games , starting 28 of them.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Once again, I’ll believe it when I see it.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Saying he started about 2/3 of the time isn’t a great endorsement.

by boonitez on Feb 14, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

VETERANOPHILIA, RIBEYES, AND HUFF

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

These are the saddest of all possible words.

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by Ott on Feb 14, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh

.315/.451/.533 in Fresno, then traded at the deadline for a league average veteran SS or SP depending on which need is greater at the time.

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by j14 on Feb 14, 2012 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

I’ll take .290/.410/.550 in Fresno, then called up for good. 350 NL PA, .268/.375/.430 with the Giants. OBP first, power in 2013.

by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Checking my own back-of-the-envelope guesstimate, Zips has .268/.365/.452. I guess I think he’ll walk more and hit fewer dingers.

by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL BELT

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

This is what I think happens

I think he beats Nate out for the last OF spot in spring training and plays LF most of the year

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

At least he’ll be playing instead of sitting behind Huff.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster to First

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

This will be one of the deciding factors.

I think Buster gets to play 1st whenever Huff sits against a lefty. The OF will be the only place they will find space for him. Thus making 2 of our best players more average!

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

So then, you have Buster play first, you have Belt ride the pine, he’ll have no way of playing unless he plays in the OF… this team is so messed up

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

failed

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Mission Ackomplished !!

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by nvsfg on Feb 14, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

HOPE LIKE HELL

PA: 438
AVG: .275
HR: 23
SLG: .428
OBP: .361

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

LOLineup.

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by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

STFD!

I was a little slow on that. Need to work out the kinks

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He is going to put a hurt on the Marlins again

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 14, 2012 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

is that real?

That’s not what I wanted to see just now, much as I hate that mascot.

by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s the source image? I can’t tell what’s going on.

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by xanthan on Feb 14, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Hockey rioters.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone got hit with a firework?

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Flash-bang grenade to the nuts!

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 14, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The sun is shining, the birds are chirping, the McCoven are bitching about how Belt is being treated

SPRING IS HERE!!!!

Brandon Belt:

AB: 374
HR: 11
AVG: .253
OBP: 366
SLG: .435

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by Kitspool on Feb 14, 2012 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

My projection would be somewhere around here.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Unable to make a projection in this instance

Too many unknowns.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

That’s why I’m afraid to write down a projection. Will Belt even be on the major league roster in April?

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I just think with all of the variables

He has expensive guys in front of him
The Giants will use spring numbers on their decision.
They consider Pill a viable alternative.

And a host of other things. There is just too many things that have to happen exactly right for Belt to not only be on the opening day roster, but to be a starter on opening day.

There is just not enough data at this point.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Each time I enter all of the available data and different scenarios into the Project-O-Con 3000

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to call for maintenance on jcb9’s ass.

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by ResDog on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed with all of this especially the part about expensive guys in front of him.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Read it aloud with a Steve Allen vamp playing underneath. It’ll blow your mind.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

They consider Pill a viable alternative.

Heh.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That is the boat I tripped and fell in

I can’t fathom how to make a projection for a guy not likely to be on the opening day roster.

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by can of corn on Feb 14, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

PUSSY

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by NuschlerFace on Feb 14, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

GATO

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with you.

I’m trying to get away from 1. assuming the Giants will only make decisions I hate and 2. only being negative… but trying to convince myself that hoping like hell is the best strategy just isn’t taking as fast as I’d hoped (like hell for).

I think Brandon Belt again shows glimpses of being a great baseball player in the major leagues and gets benched, injured or sent down whenever that happens. Wait… that sounded negative.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Grant must really be down on Belt..

Because I think he will hit way better than that projection in Fresno.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

I think the projection is accounting for his numbers being deflated by limited playing time. Players hit better when they play every day.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he was just making a joke about the fact that Belt will spend most of his time in Fresno.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the joke was that he wont play in the majors.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Wild guess

Belt starts the year at Fresno. Huff plays until a freak thong accident sidelines him in late July, whereupon young Mr. Belt takes his place at 1B in SF and promptly goes on an 11-game hitting streak – the minimum requirement for Bochy to allow him to continue starting. Huff never starts another game, and he walks funny the rest of his life.

AB: 202
HR: 11
AVG: .266
OBP: 322
SLG: .434

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by Lyle on Feb 14, 2012 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

What about Belt for Alexie Ramirez?

If not then I’d think he starts 40 games in the outfield and 80 at 1B

PA: 500
.278/.354/.481
21 HR

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

Belt would have to be the throw-in because the White Sox already have Konerko and Dunn.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

well I'm assuming Dunn is as good as his name...

And that Konerko would DH

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

ALL STAR

PA:545
HR: 33
Avg: .276
OBP: .389
SLG: .480

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by operation carrot on Feb 14, 2012 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Grant didn’t ask you for a community projection of Paul Goldschmidt.

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by Kitspool on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Jose Lopez.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul Goldschmidt looks like the real deal

Every at bat is solid. Damn.

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by wcovington on Feb 15, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It could happen now that there aren't any great 1B in the senior circut

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Votto would like a word with you.

by kaliber on Feb 14, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be cool

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by j14 on Feb 14, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

.200/.310/.388

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

Rotoworld
Jose Guillen has been training in his native Dominican Republic in order to make a comeback in MLB, reports Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportesLosAngeles.com.

And he has apparently drawn interest from “at least a couple teams,” despite not being close to game shape. Guillen didn’t play at all last season, turns 36 years old in May and was being investigated by the feds in 2010 for an HGH shipment that was allegedly sent to his wife in California, so we would be surprised if any team thinks he’s worth the trouble at this point.

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by xanthan on Feb 14, 2012 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

Sabean is going to make his swoop

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The A’s are still looking to makes some deals, I see.

by chilibean_3 on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know what to make of Brandon Belt

AB:
HR:
AVG:
OBP:
SLG:

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

...

BA: .256
RBI: 36
R: 29

Ultra-projectable
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by fjm on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

This should be done

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by fjm on Feb 14, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be great.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

We are supposed to make projections for Belt in Frenso right?

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOO,

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember that one time...

like the 2nd game of the season? When Belt hit that 3 run HR and everyone was like “this is going to be a great year!” and then we lost that game and we never saw Belt again?

AB: 169
BA: .269
HR: 6
RBI 29

by djfivenine on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

It was only 2 HR...

You’re confusing it with that time Huff hit 3 HR against the card’s and Kruk said the slump was officially over

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Kruk: “The slump is over!”

/slump resumes next day

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by Kitspool on Feb 14, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

But he looked good in the batting cage!

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Wasnt the game when huff hit those 3 HRs the game right after they recalled Belt and it was looking like they were about to put him in the lineup for good? Then Bam.. 3 Hrs and we dont see belt again.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry for bringing it up please stop

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

belt also broke his wrist like the next game

or the game before, actually

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I said it before. Other than a couple of weeks in early August. There was nothing incredibly wrong with what the Giants did with Belt. They probably should have stuck him at Fresno for the whole year but his early struggles and the wrist injury really screwed with the development.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

At least you’ll allow that there was something wrong with something the Giants did.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I have always said this. They should have stuck him in AAA all year.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

They got spoiled by Buster and thought that Belt could be the same in 2011.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

one of the worst thing that happened to the Giants in 2011 was that they stayed competitive after Buster went down.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

We’d definitely still have Wheeler, at least.

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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 14, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely greedy for another Posey. This team has a problem with PR at times. If they said something about a Cup and some Coffee to put in that cup with Belt, things might have been a bit better managed. Instead Bochy talked with his eyes as big as saucers and then showed him the back of his hand when he didn’t hit.

Nothing wrong with sending him down, but the way it was managed was poor. The one that DOES get me is he comes up in August, wins the Doyer game, goes 0 for 4 against KERSHAW the next day with 2 Ks, gets benched immediately. That was poorly handled.

by shankbone on Feb 14, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Cody Ross' achilles ruined everything.

If Cody doesn’t get injured, Belt goes to Fresno, Huff never humiliates himself in RF, and Belt probably doesn’t see the majors until Posey gets injured.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Posey doesn’t get injured….DUN DUN DUN

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I still can’t believe Nate’s throw bounced. I thought he had a rocket for an arm.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It really did. And everybody was just soaked in 2010 still. It won’t matter, we’ll get it going. Lets chalk outline RF on TV!

by shankbone on Feb 14, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Something like that. Take that Huff 3 dinger game away and he looks beyond god awful horrible. I remember wondering if Belt would end up with more HRs than huff.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The thing is, it happened.

Take away the 2 HR game from Belt and he looks even worse.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup. Belt got plunked in the second game of the four-game series in STL, played on May 31st. Huff hit his 3 HRs in the final game of that series, played on June 2nd.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It was the one that drove in Sandoval/Posey

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

As Grant stated about

Belt had 207 PAs and 187 ABs last year.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

It makes me sad to think about what happened after this.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 14, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

And Sandoval still had his hamate, oh the memories.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt's uniform is really weird looking...

It doesn’t say Fresno on the front

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

not a fan of the high socks

he looks gangly enough without them.

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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 14, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

bad, wrong

High socks are always correct.

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by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you imagine Barry in high socks?

Would he have looked as supremely badass?

No.

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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 14, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The future.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed....

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by nvsfg on Feb 14, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe even this year. Hope like hell.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Brown CF
Panik 2B
Sandoval 3B
Belt 1B
Posey C
Adrianza SS
No LF
Idea RF

by GiantPain on Feb 14, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Brown CF
Panik 2B
Sandoval 3B
Belt RF
Posey C
Oropesa 1B
ToJo LF
Crawford SS

by Nivra on Feb 14, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we please not call him ToJo?

Pretty please with a cherry on top?

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 14, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Then I guess I’ll just have to brace myself for the day when somebody drafts Stanley Linfield.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

While we're at it

Can we keep him the hell away from LF?

by boonitez on Feb 14, 2012 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

The good news is, when we’re rolling out that lineup, we’ll have a fair amount of money off the books to get a LF and a RF

The bad news, well, you know the bad news.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 14, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

No, The Justice League

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Dude runs dingerz.exe against the Dodgers in the Latrine

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

NEEDZ MOAR SEASONING

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks a lot like a giraffe there.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It depends on your definition of projection.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

Do you really want to drag that out

in this thread as well?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry. I'll stop.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That makes no sense

With that slash line there is no way to get that many PA….unless its a fresno prediction

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not very optimistic about our outfield

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

eh, I might move his obp closer to .340

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 14, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 499
HR: 23
AVG: .343
OBP: .457
SLG: .596

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Pants tightening.

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by xanthan on Feb 14, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

holy shit

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Those are just his minor league numbers, scaled down to 499 ABs. Pretty sure they won’t go down or anything.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Send him to the minors, what’s he learning there

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

BRANDON OLERUD!

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone is optimistic right now. Are you going to get lucky tonight?

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t decided yet.

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

What are you waiting for?

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t gotten my flowers yet.

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Once you have we will get you will child.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn it

*with child

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s Howie waiting for????

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve gotten flowers from many a handsome suitor already, so he is running out of time.

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

You guy my roses?

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

<3

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU TWO-TIMER

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

i’ve got the kid napping, I’m all ready to go, I just need for the baby sitter to come over, then I’ll put on my tie and get out of here!

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

junk tie

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

There are penises with angel wings on the tie. I’m keeping it classy.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

WOH

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes plz.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish could invent cool numbers like this.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

in Fresno

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Belt’s projection?

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you're confused.

he’s not asking for the added up projection stats of Brandon Belt and Brandon Crawford.

by djfivenine on Feb 14, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

All Brandons stats are counted together

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

/fist pump

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

fapfapfap

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Pessimist.

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by ResDog on Feb 14, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, this seems right to me

He’s going to destroy the Pacific Coast League.

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by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Shift-A

Today is stupid. Bitter bitter bitter.

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

IT'S A FUCKING TUESDAY, OF COURSE IT"S STUPID

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not a fan of the fucking- Tuesdays

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Also FUCK February

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

EVERYTHING SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This this.

So much this, and a bag of chips.

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm gonna listent o some Nickelback

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That’ll take it to another level.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe some LINKIN PARK

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

CRAWLINNNGG INNNN MYYY SKIINNNNNN!

by S. Pickford #25 on Feb 14, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

A step up IMO but still beneath the sucky bar.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothin beats the original

Limp Bizkit

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I'M LIKE A CHAINSAW, I'LL SKIN YOUR ASS RAW

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT CHAINSAWS DO!

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Dear Nickelback,

Thanks for taking all the heat off us, it was getting really terrible for a while there.

Sincerely,
Creed

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by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

OWNED

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Is Creed still active as a band?

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Sexually active?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

HOLD ME NOOOOOOOW

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

No..that would be the Thompson Twins..Google it whipersnappers

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by nvsfg on Feb 14, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

MAYBE SIX FEET ISNT SOOFAAAADOAAAAHHHHN

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

WITH ARMS WIDE OPE-UHHHHN

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s on the Office.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup. They broke up for a while, so Scott Stapp could spend some time being insane or something, but then they got back together.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He still found time to ruin baseball. His song called Marlins Will Soar mentioned Dough bull plays

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by Electric on Feb 14, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t say I’ve met a girl with that name before. Does April count?

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Well… yes it does!

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Friend of mine dated a girl named April for almost the entire month of April last year. They broke up near the end of the month, and by the first week in may he was seeing someone else.

Her name? Maya.

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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 14, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s awesome.

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by kdl on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like a condensed 500 Days of Summer

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

(30) Days of April

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

That could get akward...

When he had to date a dude in August

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Did he date one of the stars of Mad Men last month?

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by Kitspool on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That is crazy

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

WAIT UNTIL HE MEETS JUNEY.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

My birthday is in February :(

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

HINT YOU GUYS HINT

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Feb 14, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a week from today, guys.

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I’ll work on something cool for you.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yay

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

U, are awesome tho

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

:)

Aww thanks

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you ever have a case of the Mondays?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

//Insert Office Space quote here

For me Tuesday is the day that it really sinks in that the weekend is not coming back and another one is far away. On Monday I have just finished resting, so it isn’t as bad and I can delude myself that I will work for a day and then get to relax again.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, i guess also it has something to do with what you look forward to during that day, for me at least it’s either a sporting event or possibly a tv show.

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel an Morrissey moment coming

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by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

BELTSANITY

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

That's Crawzy

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Much better than Bowkermania (which is (mostly) dead, brother).

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Feb 14, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I'll take a crack at it

AB: LOL!
HR: More than Huff
AVG: .235, which gets him sent to Fresno
OBP: .350, which doesn’t matter
SLG: .435, 3rd on the team after Pablo and Buster, but it also doesn’t matter

by jhawx on Feb 14, 2012 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

This..

sadly.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Is WTF Facts actually real?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

I know the one about polar bears eating penguins isn’t (north pole vs. south pole). I quit paying attention because they are neither factual nor funny so I don’t know what they are.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Optimism!!!!

PA 600
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HR 32

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There used to be a McCoven called Snacks

That name always made me laugh.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It was just “snack”, I think.

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You are probably right

I would get hungry whenever they posted.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

/creates a sock puppet called “TrailMix.”

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

On the other hand, his projection is now free.

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by Kitspool on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh... so the pizza place back at school is offering a deal to give that special someone a heart shaped pizza

NOTHING SAYZ LOVE LIKE A PIZZA

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

So is papa murphy’s

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of pizza, there’s a couple of UCLA/Westwood’ers around here right?

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“And don’t forget about our six-pointed pizza, just in time for Passover!”

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

oh man... and don't forget a pizza for mothers day!

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

fallopian tube breadsticks

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by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Eww!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

BARF

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love that gift.

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/buys 5 dollar little caesars hot n' ready

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

/pukes

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you trying to make me sick?

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Amici's?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

unpack?

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Racist

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Never had it.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Half baked isn't bad

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s a pretty funny movie.

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I enjoyed that when i was younger… don’t eat it anymore, not a fan of sweets

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to suck dick for coke.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why they have MA meetings now

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I always forget John Stewart is in that.

by S. Pickford #25 on Feb 14, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He would appreciate it if you continued to do so.

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 14, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

/watched The Faculty

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by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

racism

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

U R ALL RACIST AND 5

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

WITH EXTRA ANCHOVIES!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

anchovies are awesome

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it weird that I would be totally ok with this?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s fine.

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

To me, it’s not any worse than a heart-shaped box of chocolates. The pizza is just depends on one clichĂ© instead of two.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

i mean, i'm pretty sure my girl wouldn't mind it, as long as it's cheese only

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Heart Shaped Pizza was Kurt Cobain’s second draft.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope this remains a thing.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Well i think you'd have to bring itup continuously for it to be "a thing"

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as folks keep setting it up, I’ll keep knocking it down.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure this will be coming up more often

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410 ABs
HR: 16
AVG: 274
OBP: . 375
SLG: 470 walks, gap doubles all help with SLG. Dingers increase in 2013, as others have said

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has anyone done the purple row prediction yet

920 obs or whatever

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That Romo/Rowand matchup is becoming more and more likely
Now that the Marlins have officially missed out on Yoenis Cespedes, Joe Frisaro of MLB.com examines the team’s center field options. Emilio Bonifacio figures to start in center with Aaron Rowand, Chris Coghlan and other players in the mix for reserve roles.

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Rowand doesn’t hit dingerz anymore. He just tries to pull it down the third base line for a double, over and over and over again.

Panda will pick that shit clean.

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AR: Uhh skip I have to go I think my shoe is filling up with blood

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

you do realize

that rowand is going to mash a dinger because fuck him

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by operation carrot on Feb 14, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Giants face Nads

And throw him anything in the strikezone, I am going to be pissed.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS

They should know better than anyone. It was like when they gave anything in the strike zone to Molina in the WS.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Kangaroo Court

For any Giants pitcher who throws Rowand a pitch that actually lands on or behind home plate.

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by Kitspool on Feb 14, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but I remember them actually throwing fastballs to Uribe.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure Brian Wilson gave him a fastball that he crushed last year.

by S. Pickford #25 on Feb 14, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

apparently

Timmy

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13728161&c_id=mlb

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand

Timmy vs. Molina in the World Series was pretty awesome.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish the Giants would get Uribe for half his salary or something.

by GiantPain on Feb 14, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

2 years for 8 million?

Dude hit worse than Crawford last year.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

He was also way injured.

He’s not that old.

I dunno, I would be torn. But I think Crawford needs more time in AAA to refine some kind of swing.

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/plans to hide the puppies

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Great candid shot of Jeff Fassero!

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That’s cute. Huff sending Burrell a VD card.

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Dawwww

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He is getting a card for the pigeons he feeds in the park.

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woh it's Jamie Moyer

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---------------

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

Worst Indiana Jones ever

worst

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

BUT

Short Round!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Worse than Crystal Skull?

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

no

Despite his permanent erection, the man has no regrets over his penis tattoo, according to the report.

by camwoody on Feb 14, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing is worse than Crystal Skull

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Not even the Dodgers

well… maybe the Dodgers.

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by camwoody on Feb 14, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

no way

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Crystal Skull is the worst one.

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by rotorueter on Feb 14, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

1) Racist to not one but two races
2) The “feast” scene
3) Kate Capshaw
4) Willie and Short Round

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Aliens dude.

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by camwoody on Feb 14, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

RoLA: The Covenant of the Ark
ToD: I have no idea what that movie was about. Something about heart ripping
LC: The Holy Grail

Alien connection to Mayan society is not exactly far fetched.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rather watch The Phantom Menace ten times than watch the Crystal Skull.

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by camwoody on Feb 14, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I would rather pay to watch PM than watch CS for free

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by Ohdecker on Feb 14, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I would too but I would much rather watch Crystal Skull than ToD.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but he likes the Prequel SW movies too.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

My ranking is

5, 3, 2, 4, 6, 1.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah so two of the prequels are in your top 3.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough

PM was the worst though.

I didn’t really like A New Hope. I actually like RToJ as a kid but not so much as an adult.

Opposite for EoSB

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh man

1 and 3 were the worst! Your “Lost The Will To Live” loving, JarJar adoring wrongness know no bounds.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

JarJar is pretty bad

but Ewoks.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

At least Ewoks looks like cuddly dogs. Jar Jar was just an overgrown Gecko.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

JarJar was Jose Reyes

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, I do agree with you about 5

I liked that one the best.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

At least Ewoks served a purpose and actually did something helpful.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

No they didn't

They threw rocks at stormtroopers.

At least the Gungan had legit weapons and shields.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Gungans <> JarJar. He did’t do a single thing that helped.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He brought Qui Gon and Obi Wan to the Gungans

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok so he happened to know some people who, independent of him, had some utility. He is still the most worthless character ever.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

and

he was the mechanism by which the Emperor took over the Senate.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah not a point in his favor.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That's the whole point

he was easily manipulated and used by the Emperor.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't find that part far-fetched

People using the force made other people do stuff all the time.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You're right. They should probably do a spin off trilogy starring him.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Without Return of the Jedi there would be no Ewoks, yes. But there would also be no Jabba’s Palace/Sarlaac Pit.

by ohcleverhansyou on Feb 14, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

True

but I liked Darth Maul and Qui Gon Jinn.

I also liked the Gungan battle scene with the droids.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I also like Ewan McGregor as young Obi One.

Not as good as Alec Guiness but he was only there for like 1/3 of the movie.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he did the best he could with that script. Better than most his co-stars

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought the battle robots were a good idea that was done badly

As if putting C3PO’s head on a battle droid’s body is going to make him shoot stuff.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Why

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

the whole point

was quantity or quality.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Because putting one robots head on another robots body!

As if all robots parts were interchangeable and that a head from one robot could fly and land on the neck of another robot and function assuming all connectors were in the exact same place and all did the same thing.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

No

it just meant that the head was not a key portion of the robot.

Come on…BAT from GI JOE!

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Midichlorians was also some lame bs

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

A force staph infection!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention all of the dumb decisions and self contradiction.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

How in the world did the Rebellion beat the Empire in the space fighting scene?

It was a trap remember and the freaking death star was operation.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Because Luke fuckin’ Skywalker.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The reasoning for Anakin becoming Darth Vader was one of the worst bits of storytelling in movie history.

“Man, you are evil. I think my wife is gonna die though.”

“I can save her.”

“Ok.”

“Now kill these kids”

“Ok.”

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That's unfair

his transformation took place over a long period of time and had more motivating factor.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Right before then he turns Palpatine over as the leader of the Sith to the Jedi.

It’s a relatively large leap for the bastion of evil he was made out to be in original trilogy and even the groundwork they were laying in the 1st and 2nd movie.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The conflict has always been there

Sandpeople in PM remember?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Taking revenge for murdering his mother is a path to the darkside yes

but killing kids because some guy said he could save his wife? When moments before he was ready to turn that guy over to the Jedi.

It’s very disjointed and does not explain or support it well at all.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait

the scene about saving his wife came much earlier (when he was with the Emperor at the box).

The kid killing thing took place after he turned.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought the kid killing

Was right after he threw the Snakes on a Plane guy out the window.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah

he just cuts Mace’s hands off.

The Emperor throws him over.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

But he kills kids soon after, no?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

he goes to the Temple.

But by that time, his journey to the “dark side” was complete.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Even independent of all of this, have you seen that guy’s reviews on Youtube? I’d be interested in hearing your rebuttal of that large list of things wrong with the 2 and 3.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I have not

but there were a lot of stuff wrong with 4 and 6.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

When Mace is about to finish off Palpatine

After Anakin led Mace there to arrest him, Palpatine screams he can save Padme and that causes Anakin to intervene

“I need him!” and all that. Then he kills kids.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It's all one right after the other.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

If you can beat them, join them!

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Side note.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

NERD!

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You're one of us

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

/attempts high 5 but misses

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/Hits me in the face

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I get that

but the thought was planted there long before.

The idea of Anakin was that he became paranoid about Padme, even to the point of hurting her at the end.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Mace Windu was a punk who did nothing. I was utterly disappointed in him

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

He killed Jango Fett.

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by ResDog on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Who was also kind of a wasted character.

That’s another thing that was frustrating about the prequels, there were such possibilities for some of the characters.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Boba Fett was cool because he was a badass who was just there. No explanation—just a jetpack.

Backstory harms that.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but he acted like such a hardass throughout the prequels I totally expected more

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

But he had “Bad Motherfucker” etched into the side of his lightsaber.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha seriously?

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

His special purple lightsaber.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a relatively large leap for the bastion of evil he was made out to be in original trilogy

This

They could have made the prequels a lot better if they focused on Obi-Wan and Anakin becoming Jedi Knights together. Showing the different paths each one chose. But no, we had to get a little 8 year old kid yelling yippee and we’re supposed to believe he’s the baddest motherfucker in the galaxy? Please. The prequels killed Vader’s character.

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by ResDog on Feb 14, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That would have made no sense

considering Alec Guiness played Obi-Wan in the New Hope.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t understand. Obi-Wan in the originals talks about Anakin like they were friends, equals. He was already a great fighter pilot.

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by ResDog on Feb 14, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

The originals make it sound like Anakin and Obi-Wan were the same age and kinda grew up together.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

He didn’t really consider himself as a teacher to Anakin. He was doing it as a promise to Qui-Gon.

Anakin was a great fighter pilot.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

As shown when he ‘hides’ in a fighter jet and then accidentally turns it on. I DID NOT SEE THAT COMING.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck that

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

just like I did not see Luke destroying the death star without the navigation computer.

I was talking about Anakin in Episode 2 and 3 as well as the clone wars.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I think jhiatt is talking about Obi Wan's line in Ep 4

When he mentions Luke’s father was already a great pilot when he met him.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t but that is a good point.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

except

not true.

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POD RACE PILOT

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Quote (IMDB)
Luke: No, my father didn’t fight in the Clone Wars. He was a navigator on a spice freighter.
Obi-Wan: That’s what your uncle told you. He didn’t hold with your father’s ideals; he felt he should’ve stayed here and not gotten involved.
Luke: You fought in the Clone Wars?
Obi-Wan: Yes. I was once a Jedi knight, the same as your father.
Luke: I wish I’d known him.
Obi-Wan: He was the best star pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand that you’ve become quite a good pilot yourself.
Obi-Wan: And he was a good friend.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, this also raises another question. Why would Obi-Wan think that Luke’s Uncle would give a fuck about what Anakin did?

They apparently knew each other for like 2 days.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Why would he care about Anakin staying on the farm and not getting involved? He barely knew him

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Owen was Shmi’s…stepson? , so that would make him Anakin’s stepbrother. I assumed Shmi told Owen about her real son.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

supposedly Anakin blamed Shimi’s husband for failing to protect her.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, but he was already a Jedi when Owen knew him. And during the week or so of their acquaintance, Anakin constantly lashed out in anger and slaughtered a bunch of sand people.

So not getting involved wasn’t really an option due to his being a Jedi. And you probably don’t want an unstable person, which Anakin came across as being to hang out on your farm.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the idea was that Owen just didn’t think it was a good idea for Anakin to be flying around the galaxy instead of moisture farming, regardless of how angry Anakin was.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok what about the fact that Anakin is pretty much impossible to care about?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

like I really cared about Luke.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

So you agree that Anakin is unlikable then.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Unlikable?

yeah…I would say that. I was more into Obi Wan’s sense of loss and inability to stop Anakin.

But I didn’t really care about Luke either so when comparing the different episodes, it’s pretty much a wash.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That is another issue with the prequels: who the fuck are they even about? Who is the protagonist?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s supposed to be Anakin who changes from an innocent kid to villain.

You can also argue that it’s Obi Wan.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I would say Obi Wan.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The main character is the only interesting character in all 3 movies who’s played by the same actor and has massive, cosmos-changing powers, plus is involved in every important thing. I refer, of course, to Palpatine.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He would be the

Antagonist no?

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The antagonist is Anakin. Certainly whenever I saw him I was antagonized.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

They put Luke on Tatooine to hide him

They decided to hide Leia by making her a fucking senator!

lulz

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that didn’t make sense. OH LETS HIDE HIM ON HIS DADS HOMEWORLD AND GIVE HER TO A PROMINENT OPPONENT OF THE EMPEROR

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

1) Vader/Emperor did not know that the twins survived.

2) Organa already knew of the birth so he would be a prime caretaker for one of the twins.

3) Anakin had no reason to go back to Tatooine since his mother died there.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

Obi Wan stayed on Tattoine to watch over Luke.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The point is there are far better places to hide them.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Really

like where.

They need parents.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

They could have given Luke to Yoda so that he could be trained from birth to be a Jedi.

Instead, Yoda is all “The Fuck, What? Too old to begin the training!” They could have turned Luke into a Super Dark Side killing machine!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Yoda is great with kids.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

His parenting skills were never addressed in any of the movies

In fact, Yoda was training younglings in the prequels!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Training

is totally different than being a parent.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

But to say he wouldn't be a good parent with nothing to back it up is ridiculous

You don’t know because the story never addressed it. And he would totally be able to change a diaper using nothing but the force.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

They don’t need parents! They need to be anti-Dark Jedi war machines.

Besides which, what was their plan exactly? They wanted to hide them so they wouldn’t be detected. But Organa doesn’t train Leia to be a Jedi (and as a diplomat she’s going to be spending time near the Core worlds anyway so it’d be obvious), and Obi Wan doesn’t help Luke till the droids show up.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Was Yoda a good father?

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, he did seem pretty good with the younglings in movie 2. Maybe he needed to contemplate the force or something.

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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Feb 14, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The Yoda thing was weird

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

He didn’t even fail. He just left.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yoda really lamed out in the prequel. He has that big battle with Palpatine, goes through the vents or whatever UNHARMED, has no reason not to continue to try to stop Palpatine who is STILL IN THE BUILDING WAITING.

So what does Yoda do? He proclaims his failure and runs away to mope. Oh, that’s how he ended up on Dagobah?

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe this is a stupid question, but...

So Darth Vader was able to sense that Luke was his son just by being near him and figuring it out through the Force, right? If that’s so, why didn’t he ever sense Leia (much less realize that he even had a sister) until Episode 6? There had to have been times when Vader crossed paths with her, with her being part of the government. And, of course, there was their famous encounter in Episode 4 with Alderaan. Is it simply because she never really used the force and that’s the avenue with which Vader recognized Luke?

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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 14, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

She never developed her Jedi skills

like Luke did.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

So you’re saying he only realized Luke was his son because he had refined Jedi skills? Doubtful.

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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 14, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Not refined

but developed in episode 4.

Remember, there aren’t that many Jedis left in the galaxy by that point.

Also, apparently back story stated that he found out Luke’s last name was Skywalker.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Guess I missed the part about him finding about about “Skywalker”. That would make sense then.

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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 14, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

just the sex slave code

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKtciRCVpFE

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

so that’s a different actor than the emperor in episode 6, right? or am I just crazy?

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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 14, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The emperor?

Just in this scene

The younger Palpatine of The Phantom Menace, the middle-aged Palpatine of Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith and the elderly Emperor Palpatine of the original trilogy are all played by actor Ian McDiarmid, although the holographic image of the Emperor that briefly appeared in the original version of The Empire Strikes Back was played by Elaine Baker, then-wife of makeup designer Rick Baker.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Shows you how messed up Vader was that he didn’t even know his Jedi daughter was some sort of sex slave to a fat gangster. You know, every dad’s worst nightmare

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 14, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

And she makes out with her brother. Hooks up with criminals.

She’s clearly got daddy issues.

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by ResDog on Feb 14, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Well who wouldn’t be considering he killed their mother by screaming “NOOOOOOO!!!!!” real loudly

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 14, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Well…he didn’t kill her.

It was the more ridiculous ending that she no longer had the will to live.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Luke SKYWALKER

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by ResDog on Feb 14, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Fortunately, Anakin never bothered to visit home.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You cared about like and you know it!

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

POWER CONVERTERRRRRRSS!!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

You can play with your friends later Lars. Now go and wash the Droids.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s because Hayden Christensen sucks.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Anakin could have had kids when he was in his late 30s. Luke/Leia are in their 20s so the timeline could have worked out.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

We are all ignoring the elephant in the room

Hayden Christiansen is an abomination of an actor

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I always felt that somewhere in there was a decent character and a decent actor but as Lucas didn’t care about anything like dialogue or characterization, both Chistiansen (and Portman) wound up sucking. I felt kind of bad for him in a way

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 14, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

And George Lucas writes some BAD dialogue

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Some say there’s no such thing as a bad actor, just bad writers and directors.

by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re tearing me apart, wcw.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

John Waters would have directed the hell out of that.

by wcw on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I did NAHT.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That's true

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Any of you fellow nerds

Playing SWTOR?

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

They almost didn't

It was basically stalling till the fighters got into the death star and Palpatine died. The Death Star wasn’t able to shoot because the rebels charged the Imperial Navy, and Mon Cal Cruisers are as tough as Star Destroyers due to backup shields. Also, they got lucky and disabled Executor.

Once Palpatine died, my impression is that EU consensus is that his battle meditation went down and the Navy was a wreck.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

lol Thrawn's theories

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Well yeah, EU

And it’s not verified I think, just consensus.

The other thing is that I don’t think ROTJ was supposed to have the full Imperial Navy there.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

5,4,6,2,3,1

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by camwoody on Feb 14, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I will quibble with your prequel rankings

5,4,6,3,1,2

The two fight scenes at the end of 3 are pretty badass

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winnar

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS... or something

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This is correct

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Who was in charge?

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by Lunkus on Feb 14, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

TNG >>>>>> ToS

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

DS9 > TNG > TOS > VOY > ENT

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

DS9 was okay but the last couple years including the ending was horrible.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was the opposite

First season was rough, but the Dominion War mega arc was awesome.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

First season was not great but the next few were pretty good.

Dominion WAr was fun but the whole Bejorian thing was awful.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the last season was a pretty big letdown.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Final answer

5, 4, 6, 3, 1, 2

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s only because of Darth Maul.

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by ResDog on Feb 14, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

like lowering a person into a volcano and having her come out fine.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

What about the Killer Ants?

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

agree

Temple of Doom is the worst. Maybe the worst movie ever given the expectations. Crystal Skull also sucks but more like Fast and Furious movies suck.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

BUT DOCTA JONES

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Now the real question is

NY Giants cap or Yankees cap?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked to pretend it’s a NY Giants cap.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

THE ORIGINAL JEREMY LIN

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

HE PROVED ASIANS CAN DRIVE

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He also proved Asians can take it to the hole

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GIANTS

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DREAM KILLER

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

GO GIANTS

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Booby Traps!

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Dream still alive

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

See that kid has Lintegrity

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Here is a Giants cap that looks like Short Rounds's cap

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

This

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by Kitspool on Feb 14, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That, and Harrison Ford was old and jiggling around the screen in all his old-man-ness. And his “son” was extra lame.

One of the worst movies I’ve ever seen.

Horrible.

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by can of corn on Feb 14, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

How could you forget

Shia Labeouf was in that movie too.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s awful in everything.

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by can of corn on Feb 14, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

counterpoint:

Holes

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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 14, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet he’s awful in holes, too.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

twss

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Even Stevens!

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Clarification: He’s been awful in everything I’ve seen him in (which is admittedly not much since I don’t go out of my way to see his stuff). I am not a fan.

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by can of corn on Feb 14, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

NUKE PROOF FRIDGES!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That part was soooooooo dumb.

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CATCHING UP TO SPEEDING VEHICLES BY SWINGING ON VINES

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I like how “Nuking the fridge” almost overtook “jumping the shark”.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It did inspire one of the worst/awesomest episodes of South Park ever.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha

I was just thinking about that. I think the part when they broke into Lucas Ranch as saw George buttsectsing a storm trooper was one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The sound of the Storm Trooper’s plastic uniform clacking sold it.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ew old people.

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MY LAWN, YOURE ON IT, GET OUT

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I don’t want to get into this again.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Crystal Skull disagrees

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

This and Crystal Skull sucked

but I think Crystal Skull has it.

This movie at least had “Anything Goes”

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I “pull your heart out of your chest” you?

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I think they sung this in San Francisco today

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I “not a good movie” you

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone think this is weird?
North Dakota’s Board of Higher Education voted to sue to try to block a state law requiring the University of North Dakota’s athletics teams to be called the Fighting Sioux. The board approved the lawsuit after meeting by telephone with state Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem, who said he was confident the law violates the state Constitution.

Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/13/SPU71N73ME.DTL#ixzz1mObkJTr6

Seems like it would be the state fighting the school over this, not the other way around.

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Usually it’s the state coming down on the school to eliminate these non-pc legacy names.

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

All California High School Sports Teams are heretofore called the Flying Junk

The JV teams are going to be referred to simply as “Half-Mast”

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure the state Attorney is busy and has lots of meetings over the phone, nothing odd about that.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Feb 14, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this stems from UND’s ongoing battle with the NCAA over their name “Fighting Sioux”. The NCAA has been trying to force UND to drop the name. I think the state law was a way to support the school by saying that regardless of what the NCAA said, the school couldn’t change their name. BECAUSE IT’S A LAW, RIGHT? So this, I think, is the B of E siding with the NCAA, and against the state and UND.

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by tobias on Feb 14, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL. If all sports journalism was like sports journalism
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It’s always the mystery country.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s Jon Heyman tweeting that does it.

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by Kitspool on Feb 14, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

The fact that we’ve basically pulled apart every facet of this joke indicates that it’s just a damn good joke.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Dammit. The title was supposed to be “if all journalism was like sports journalism”

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

WTH?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I did not think he had that in him….

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s really trying to MEK a statement there.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

How is this not green?

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

dude needs to shut his mouth

he is just one of those guys that seems driven to prove he is an idiot.

Despite his permanent erection, the man has no regrets over his penis tattoo, according to the report.

by camwoody on Feb 14, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

432 ABs
12 HRs
.363 OBP
.422 SLG

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 14, 2012 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

My Confidence Intervals are Wide

AB: 100-500
HR: 2-26
AVG: .250-.325
OBP: .325-.390
SLG: .360- .460
% Time this season in Fresno: 0-96%
Time on Bus to and Fro Fresno: 0-324 hours

  1. Visits to Six Flags Vallejo: 2-19

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:12 PM PST reply actions  

AMICI'S PIZZA BOUGHT FOR MY GIRLFRIEND, SHAPED IN A HEART

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Need to play this song as you give it to her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT5msu-dap8

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

HEART SHAPED BOX

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Cut a hole in the heart shaped box

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Line it with a soft material

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

PUT YOUR DICK IN THE BOX

Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Oooh Aaah, Cantona! Oooh Aaah Cantona!

by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK IT, i'm gonna drink on Valentines cuz it sucks

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

THERE’S A HOLE IN MY HEART THAT CAN ONLY BE FILLED BY YOU

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

as a postlude:

“Baby, you make my phones ring, you make my phones ring”

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by UnleashTheGore on Feb 14, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

rec'd

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

should do that everytime he hits a home run

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

he is too serious

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

All about the bidness.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

i remember watching him play at San Jose in his first pro year. He was acting like an adult among a bunch of teenage boys. It was almost startling how focused he was.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

i'll be in Orinda later, should i tell him to do it?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

PAY MORE ATTENSHUN TO MY WEATHER MAPS

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by TheLetter2 on Feb 14, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

We can all dream.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

but when do dreams become reality

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

When Huff is gone.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

DAMMIT

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

We have every right to dream heroic dreams. Those who say that we’re in a time when there are no heroes, they just don’t know where to look.

— Ronald Reagan, 1981

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

What about

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

425 AB
18 HR
.275 BA
.345 OBP
.480 SLG
8 SB

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Feb 14, 2012 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

Strong words!
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by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

I would say the USC Trojans is the best professional sports franchise of my lifetime

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I still remember the awesome Ted Robinson Line

“Reggie Bush, a 7th year Pro, his last 4 with the New Orlean Saints”

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

They have made the playoffs for 20 consecutive seasons.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 14, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Amazing… but during that time, they won only 4 cups. One could make a much stronger argument for the Lakers or Celtics.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Depending on age, absolutely.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 14, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I am assuming he is about 30.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s probably about right. The Lakers easily take the cake then (9 championships), the Celtics only have 3.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 14, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

so they were better than 7 other teams in their league for 20 consecutive years?

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

NHLOL

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

and the NBA

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 14, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

OH SHIT

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

got my red wings jersey on

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

this guy's jersey

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay fine.

As long as it isn’t a current player

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

oh hell no

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 317
BA: .253
HR: 15
OBP: .339
SLG: .436
WAR: Higher than Audrey Huff in fewer AB

Always analyzing the stats... don't care about scouts.

by Electric on Feb 14, 2012 2:32 PM PST reply actions  

Cartoon OT:

This is such an awesome opening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiIAVZf5nQs

The rest of the movie sucked but this opening was awesome

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

When does it become awesome? I turned it off at 2 minutes due to lack of awesome and abundance of stupid.

It's the logo for my favorite band!

by positiveuphemism on Feb 14, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hmm.... Poor Belty

PA: 409
AVG: .230
OBP: .329
SLG: .440
HR: 17

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

LOLBELT

Trade him while his trade value is high

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope the Giants just commit to converting him to a LF. He’s more valuable there, anyway.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would he be more valuable at a position where he's probably an average defender at best?

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Replacement value. His offense does not have to be as good in left to justify a starting role. Also, stellar defense at first isn’t particularly valuable as a whole.

Unlike the majority, I don’t think Belt is 100% likely to be particularly valuable at first.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The threshold is lower, but by that same token it’s easier to find a league average LF than a league average 1B. Given that league average for 1B last year was .271/.345/.452, I’ll take the gamble on Belt’s upside, doubly so because it keeps the wear on his shoulder low.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You think Belt can hit .271/.345/.452 consistently? That seems rather optimistic…and with that, he’s probably a 3 WAR player (including defense). If he can be anything above replacement defensively in LF, he could surpass 3 WAR with that line. If Belt’s shoulder proves to be problem, yes, it would make sense to supplant Huff, but with the roster as currently constructed, Huff is probably still better than Schierholtz, making Belt in left the better option.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course, neither will happen, because Giants.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Schierholtz was league average last year

despite an odd, below-average year with the glove.

And I think that when Belt becomes an everyday player and the staring first baseman in 2013, he projects very well to have the necessary patience and power potential to hit that line. And if his hits .270, I like his chances for plus-OBP going forward.

I think Huff and Belt are actually pretty similar as players, for better or for worse.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt strikes out and walks more for this point in his career. I think both are fairly important; the high strikeout rate, combined with his fairly pedestrian HR/PA rate, will likely suppress his average. The high walk rate gives him great projectability, but he’s still a bit of a question mark.

I imagine Belt could be more than league average with the bat in left, so an average glove would be all he would need to eclipse Nate.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I also tend to prefer emphasize OF defense, because frankly in this division you need to be competent given the parks the Giants play in. So I think Nate is fine for what he is.

As for Belt, I think power will improve in time. He’ll probably never hit 35 HRs, I could see him being a 25 HR guy once he’s grown into his frame a bit more. He’s got all the physical tools necessary to be a good first baseman, I just think he needs the time to develop. I wouldn’t confidently project him for league average this year, but by 2014 I think his odds are very good.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That still means that he would be below average for a while, and that’s time that the Giants just don’t have. It would probably serve them better to have Belt in LF, Huff at 1B, and Schierholtz being, essentially, the primary backup at 4 positions (since Belt could always swing to first, and Cabrera to CF or LF if necessary).

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Nate stands a good chance at being more valuable than Melky this year.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If Nate gets 1000 PAs this season like Melky did last season, I’m sure he can put up the same line.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s possible, and probably better for the Giants. Melky can at least play all 3 outfield positions.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I suspect this because I am particularly bearish on Cabrera.

I think Nate could be a 2 fWAR player this year, but I don’t have such high hopes for Melky. I’d be okay with Pagan in CF, Nate in RF, whichever of Huff and Belt is not playing 1B in LF, and Melky being our Rowand/Cody 4th OF and bench bat.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be fine by me.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

In my ideal world, it would be a Melky v. Huff death match for the LF job… But this would be acceptable.

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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 14, 2012 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That SLG seems a little high for his HR/PA and .AVG

I’d expect him to break .250

Always analyzing the stats... don't care about scouts.

by Electric on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he can hit over .250 with a K-rate that high. Also, in the minors, he was quite the doubles hitter, so that’s largely why his ISO is so high, even with the fairly innocuous HR/PA.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

and Natalie Coughlin.

Go Bears!

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Nude Cal athletes….

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m ok with this?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Allison Stokke or GTFO

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

WOW

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

............yes please

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Why hello Alex.

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WESTPHAL FIRED!

by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Let me know when it’s Alex_Lewis’ turn.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

No one wants to see that.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

we’ve all seen his zucchini already

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

yea, i'm traumatized

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

And I haven’t recovered yet.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT'S HIS MUSIC!!

IT’S ALEX_LEWIS!!!!

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by Alex_Lewis on Feb 14, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

PAINTED JUNK!
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by capn on Feb 14, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I just blue and golded myself!

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The iPad 3D version of the bodypaint is borderline pornography. I feel dirty looking at it.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Mavericks?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I have an optimistic and a pessimistic projection

Maybe I ought to have a sock puppet account to do both, but since I’m lazy I’ll just put them both here.

Optimistic:
AB: 565
HR: 19
AVG: .303
OBP: .373
SLG: .465

Pessimistic:
AB: 134
HR: 3
AVG: .224
OBP: .273
SLG: .351
Subsequent MLB playing time: 0

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

Sharks can't get Rick Nash?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

No cap space and would probably have to give too much to get him.

But I love the idea of Nash on the Sharks.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, so it wouldn’t make any sense whatsoever to consider him, they wouldn’t be able to sign anyone else, let alone re-sign

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

wow, so then nevermind on that idea

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad the Kings have apparently backed out of negotiations

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

AB: 435
HR: 21
AVG: 267
OBP: 353
SLG: 470

Ah shiny optimism

by shankbone on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

Does anyone else think it's weird that a public university would allow someone to make a speech calling half of it's students brainless demons?
SAN LUIS OBISPO – Cal Poly College Republicans will host conservative author and activist Ann Coulter in the University Union, Chumash Auditorium from 7 to 8 p.m., Tuesday, Feb. 28. The event is free and open to the public.

Coulter will give a speech titled "Demonic: How the Liberal Mob is Endangering America." A question-and-answer session will follow the presentation.
Coulter is the author of seven New York Times bestsellers, including "Guilty: Liberal Victims and Their Assault on America," "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They’d Be Republicans," "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," "How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)," "Treason: Liberal Treachery From the Cold War to the War on Terrorism," "Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right," and "High Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Case Against Bill Clinton."

I don’t mean to make this a political discussion. I would think it was weird if it were this strongly anti-Republic too.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 14, 2012 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

This already happened with Palin

a few years back.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

There's a preacher at Fresno State who speaks in the free speech area and calls everyone at the school sex crazed, depraved

whores, drug users, etc.

Not sure if he is still there, but he was there every year I was in college.

So alone...
Twitter

by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Free speech area

At Cal, that’s every area!

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

We had one of those at UCSD as well

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

something something something,

blowjobs from your mother, something something something

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by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, she’s nowhere near as good as yours.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s fine. Anyone should be able to speak IMO. Although a debate would probably serve the student body better.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I think giving folks like this the opportunity to display just how stupid they are

Is the best way get rid of them.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If I remember

I may go.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 14, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

could she deliver the speech in bodypaint?

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd agree if it were someone who legitimately believed all the things they said

And not someone who is clearly just making a living by being a real life troll in order to drum up publicity for her books and get money from ignorant, xenophobic morons.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

She might be the world’s most succesfull Troll

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 14, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to one of the more notoriously liberal colleges in the country, and our president brought Rush Limbaugh to be a major speaker.

It’s good to bring in alternative viewpoints sometimes.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My college was so liberal that there was a massive protest the year I graduated because Daniel Patrick Moynihan was invited to speak.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

My commencement speaker was selected in the same vein, I think. To bad he is a shitty speaker and a pathetic apologist to boot.

The lucky bastards in the graduating class after mine got Julie Taymor.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be fun especially this year. Where did you go? NYU?

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Oberlin.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

lulz

One joke that floated around my school from time to time is that we are the kids who didn’t get into Vassar/Wesleyan.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Lisa: "There’s no way I’ll get into an Ivy League school now. At this rate, I probably won’t even get into Vassar."

Homer: "I’ve had just about enough of your Vassar bashing, young lady."

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

lulz

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Once more, with feeling.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you, Rick Reilley

I usually hate your writing, even though I’m a Celtics fan. But this is 10000000% spot on. This is the reason why Linsanity means so much to me.

But the best part is that Lin is a hoop hopes machine now. He gives every kid at the end of every high school bench, every college scrub who never gets a minute, every 13th man in the NBA … faith. Faith that someday, if he can finally get his chance, he can Shu them How.

Because that kid at the end of the bench was me in 1993.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

Lin's middle name is Shu How

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL YOUR ATHLETIC ABILITY!!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The Tebow defense.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but this is not the only case where something like this happened

He’s been good for one week. That week happened to be while on a team in New York. Also, asian.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

None of that has anything to do with how Lin will perform.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I still refuse to take any 4 game stretch as any sort of true assessment of a player’s skill.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I would generally agree but Silver is no slouch and the evidence he presents is compelling.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

What other people did does not have much bearing on what Lin has done.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure I understand...The question is how predictive any one four game stretch (five) might be...
Basketball is much less luck-driven than a sport like baseball, especially for a point guard, who handles so many of the team’s possessions. A league-average point guard might be able to muster one streak like Lin’s over the course of his career. But it is more the hallmark of a player with at least borderline All-Star talent, if not more than that.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

He has never really been considered a 20 PPG scorer in the NBA, largely because he never averaged 20 points in college or high school. He turns the ball over nearly 5 times a game, and has never been an elite passer at any level. He’s a serviceable player, but he has a long way to go before he validates the hype.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I know next to nothing about basketball and even less about Lin, but I have heard that he made some significant adjustments to his game over the summer and really worked on his shooting and his strength.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s possible that his game has improved vastly; it’s just not likely.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

This specific comparison is invalid.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

What's the evidence?

He’s shooting 51.2% and averaged 4.6 TO per game in the best 5 games of his life.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you!

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

now you know how wrong you are!

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Read the article. It is reasonable. He says that the stretch he put together (small sample size and all) is unusual. Luck is not as much of a factor in basketball. This kind of performance is good enough that despite the small sample, it still predicts that he is no fluke.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I did read the article. Although the stretch has been good, Silver is also cherrypicking stats. Lin isn’t shooting a great percentage, considering his shot selection. He’s also turning the ball over a ton.

This is all not to mention that this is completely out of line with anything he has ever done.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear you. The good news is that we will all get a chance to see how it plays out.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

In his college career against Ivy League competition

he averaged

12.9 ppg
48.0 FG%
33.3 3PT%
3.5 APG
4.5 RPG

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Have you ever tried to score against Princeton? They give up approximately 23 points a game.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

In his college career

Steve Nash averaged

14.9 ppg
43.0 FG%
40% 3PT%
4.5 APG
3.1 RPG

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not to say that Lin is Steve Nash though. Like I said, it’s possible, but it’s still not likely.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

of course not. he is not Steve Nash.

I just want to point out how misleading college average numbers can be.

Especially when you average in Freshman year where you play very few minutes into the per game calculation.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

But for every example of an average college player becoming great you can find about 20 examples of an average college player becoming average/mediocre.

You really can’t look at 4 games in the NBA and 4 years of college, then say that the college numbers are the ones more likely to be misleading (I realize this isn’t exactly what you’re saying, but still).

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

What I'm saying

What Jeremy Lin is doing right now shows you should give that kid at the end of the bench that you may have dismissed because he is Asian a second look.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I going to say no to this

because this means that Pill should play more because he was at the end of the bench and hit really well at the end of last year.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

So you're saying him being Chinese was not the reason

why the player of the year in California was not offered a D1 scholarship.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That's fine, and I completely agree

But what I’m saying is there are plenty of reasons to think that him being asian wasn’t the main reason he wasn’t given a second look.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I will flip this around

if Jeremy was not Asian, would he get the hype that he is getting? Of course not.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that answers that question!

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, scouts always look for projectable physical attributes, and Lin’s body does not scream “long term investment.” I don’t know that his specifically being Asian has anything to do with it. Kids of any race and Lin’s size are likely to be selected against by basketball programs.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

read my quote below
Taylor recalled that as Lin drifted on the fringe of NBA relevance, "I knew that part of the reason Lin was so quickly dismissed was that people had a hard time believing than an Asian-American could play point guard in the NBA. I missed on him, too. I didn’t question the conventional wisdom, even though it didn’t go along with what I saw with my own eyes."

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that quote is really just referring to the physical characteristics stereotypically assigned to Asians. That’s not to say that programs didn’t do their due diligence. There were perfectly good basketball reasons to not believe in Jeremy Lin.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

He was projected to be a late-second round pick which means that he must have had some value….

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I’m talking about him out of high school, when he wasn’t recruited by a top tier program.

Even then, a late-second round pick projection isn’t great.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it is pretty impressive given that he played at Harvard. I agree that it would be nothing if he played in a major program.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Read Between the lines
For instance, Stanford is literally across a boulevard from Palo Alto High School, where Lin led the Vikings to a 32-1 record and the CIF state championship as a senior. Yet then-Stanford coach Trent Johnson wouldn’t walk across the street to sign him.

“We knew all about him,” admits Johnson, now the coach at LSU. “But nobody in the Bay Area saw then what we’re seeing now. … It wasn’t like there was pressure on me to recruit him. There was zero pressure. None.”

Across the bay lies Cal, where Lin desperately wanted to play. But Bears coach Ben Braun was Lindifferent. He passed.

“But hey, I passed on Steve Nash, too,” concedes Braun, now the coach at Rice. “We just didn’t extend Jeremy a scholarship. I love the kid, but we just didn’t. … I don’t feel too bad. At least I’m not the only one.”

Jesse Evans does feel bad. He did the Jeremy Jilt when he was the coach at the University of San Francisco. Two years later, he was fired.

“Maybe I could’ve kept my job if I had Jeremy,” laughs Evans, who’s now a scout. “I thought he was a very good player; we just didn’t quite pull the trigger. Wish we had.”

Every Coach just happened to “didn’t pull the trigger” for no specific reason.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you think his Ivy League stats

would have translated to in the Pac-10.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know what happens

when he plays with better teammates.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

And his competition is a lot better

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

so that's even more variables

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that hey would have done worse.

The 2006 recruiting year:

Cal got Jerome Randle as their PG (who posted better stats than Lin in the Pac-10) and was the 2010 Pac-10 Player of the year.

I can’t speak for Stanfurd.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

From somebody that played in the NBA
“It’s the Asian thing,” says former NBA player Rex Walters, who’s Japanese-American and wound up with Evans’ job at USF. “People who don’t think stereotypes exist are crazy. If he’s white, he’s either a good shooter or heady. If he’s Asian, he’s good at math. We’re not taking him.”

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That doesn’t remove the fact that he still didn’t actually have very projectable physical attributes. It’s one thing to reject a very talented player out of hand, just for being Asian. It’s another to have certain reservations about his strength and athletic ability, which certainly existed.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

There are two very interesting and parallel discussions going on here:

1) Does the fact the Lin is Asian have anything to do with why he was not recruited out of HS?
2) Does his limited experience as an NBA starter predict anything about his future success?

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t give a rat’s ass about 2).

I will defend to the death that 1) is absolutely true.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny. I am pretty interested in 2 and could not care less about 1.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, there’s no doubt that people stereotype. I don’t think that’s the whole reason he was overlooked.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

if it's 10% of the reason

that’s 10% too much.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s probably more like 80% of the reason. It’s certainly 80% of the fuel behind Linsanity.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

oh for petes sake

The fuel is being able to perform well (at least counting stats). What are you saying would happen if he came up and performed abysmally?

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing would've happened.

The media meltdown is mostly because OMG ASIAN. His great performance streak playing for a New York team was the catalyst, sure, but it’s the race shit that’s made it white hot. I’m speaking strictly from the media perspective here, mind you.

These other facets about bench players or overlooked players or an underdog story is certainly relevant, but outside of a few stray articles (like the one jct mentioned) that is not the “story”.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

He's 6'3" and 200 lbs.

That is big for a PG. The fact that the announcers kept repeating this over and over again, and yet his strength and athleticism is still questioned, is…well, I don’t know what to say.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know what you mean by projectable physical attributes.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s kind of linsensitive.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 14, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

. . .
Well, that quote is really just referring to the physical characteristics stereotypically assigned to Asians.

So, you are saying you stereotypically assign physical characteristics to Asians?

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, scouts definitely do. I never said that it’s a good idea.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That isn't what I asked, funnily

But I’m not sure if you’re, for example, conceding that scouts were racially biased against Lin and it significantly affected their judgment, or if his poor performance overwhelmed any potential bias.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither. They might have been racially biased; that might have affected their judgment. His performance wasn’t poor, but his physical attributes (speed, jump, ball skills) may not have been in line for a top tier recruitment.

To answer your previous question, no, I was not saying that I racially stereotype. Plus, I’m Indian, and I like to think that I don’t fit the stereotypes, so it would be hypocritical of me to assign them to anyone else.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The other thing about basketball scholarships

is that teams don’t get many.

It’s hard to gamble on a recruit in Bball.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Except

Nash took Santa Clara to the NCAA tournament 3 out of the 4 years he was there and played internationally.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

That has nothing to do with numbers you posted. Unless you are saying that Numbers aren’t the whole story for a player, in which case I agree with you that college career numbers don’t tell the whole story of Jeremy Lin.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

No

I am saying that Nash’s calling card was not just stats. He also played against a lot of good teams and did well against them. He also played on the Canadian National Team during college.

He also had close to a 1:1 Assist to TO ratio in college while Nash was close to a 2:1 ratio.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

and a significantly higher field goal percentage.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Nash's biggest knock

coming out of college was his inability to shoot.

But people liked him for his PG abilities, especially assists.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

so players improve?

you don’t say!

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Again, 5 games and he was not particular good in the last game.

He is a PG and I find his TO ratio pretty unattractive.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

While any player on the court is far more valuable as a shooter/scorer, it is perhaps least important for the PG position to have it as a quality skill.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

His senior season at Harvard, Lin:

1) Was the 4th leading scorer in the Ivy League
2) Had the 6th highest FG% in the league
3) Had the 7th highest FT% in the league
4) Had the 17th highest 3pt% in the league
5) Was 2nd in the league in assists
6) Was 1st in the league in steals
7) Was 16th in the league in rebounds
8) Was 5th in the league in blocks

Yes it was the Ivy League, but that is pretty impressive for a 6’3" PG.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is that impressive for a 6'3" PG

which is actually pretty tall for a PG.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know many PGs who are among the league leaders in scoring, assists, steals, blocks and rebounds.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

He plays in the Ivy League were 6’3" is tall.

The tallest guy on the 2008-2009 Harvard team was 6’9"

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. It was the Ivy League.

I can’t think of one other current NBA player from the Ivy League.

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by atxgiantsfan on Feb 14, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he'll be at least a serviceable starting point guard

But to think that he can continue to score 20+ a night, especially once Anthony comes back, is ridiculous. Now I am excited to see what happens when Amare comes back, because they should be fantastic together on the pick-n-roll.

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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Feb 14, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Lin is certainly worthy of seeing consistent playing time, and playing with Anthony and Stoudemire will allow him to focus on his strengths, probably improving his shot selection, if deflating his numbers a bit. We’ll see in time, but it’s just too early to say.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I am really, really not sure how the story is anything more than “is he a serviceable starting point guard”? Actually, I’m not even certain how the story became more than “Is he a competent backup?”

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, right now, he’s starting over the likes of Iman Shumpert, so I think it’s fair to anoint him the starter for now.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Shumpert is currently plotting to creatively destroy Lin’s knees in the parking lot and take over the job.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, that is exactly and precisely the use of “starter” I was going for there.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s still not one of the 30 best PGs in basketball, yes.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, that is exactly the definition of “starter” I was going for. You are on a roll today.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Unusual things happen sometimes

I’d put more weight in the fact that he had only slightly above average numbers for 4 years in college in an weak conference than I would in having better than average numbers for 4 games in the NBA.

But in the same ‘unusual things happen sometimes’ vein, maybe he did somehow vastly improve over the past couple years. I’m just saying it’s still way, way too early to say he’s not a fluke.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

If he was a pure jump-shooter/3-point specialist I’d agree with this.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Pooh Richardson.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The story is more about how he was the California Player of the year in High School

But no division 1 team offered him a scholarship. Because he was Chinese. It has nothing to do with his “good for a week while in New York”

Even if he is just a role player in the NBA, he still should have received a D1 scholarship from somebody. Anybody. But no, he didn’t. One scout based in Palo said he saw Lin many times in High School. He said he should have trusted his own eyes but instead he went with the conventional wisdom that Asians won’t succeed at a higher level.

It’s not “I don’t think these 5 games indicate his true talent level”. It’s “Well, he could be ok, but he’s Asian, so those guys can’t play, so I’m not going to trust what I see. I would rather believe the stereotype.”

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I still hate Ben Braun for not convincing Dirk to attend Cal.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I didn’t read the article because there was no link to it, I was just going off the portion you quoted.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

This is from another article
— Good stuff this week from Sports Illustrated’s Phil Taylor, who lives just a few miles from Palo Alto High School and first noticed Lin back in 2005. “I remember lots of opposing guards contorting their faces in a mixture of surprise and disgust after he flashed past them to the hoop,” wrote Taylor, “as if they couldn’t decide if they were more shocked or angry that this skinny Asian kid had used them like an orange traffic cone.”

Taylor recalled that as Lin drifted on the fringe of NBA relevance, “I knew that part of the reason Lin was so quickly dismissed was that people had a hard time believing than an Asian-American could play point guard in the NBA. I missed on him, too. I didn’t question the conventional wisdom, even though it didn’t go along with what I saw with my own eyes.”

And that is why it is so important. Hopefully this is the beginning of people questioning that stereotype.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't Want to Get in the Way of that Debate Up Above

Just wanted to say my buddy Murph, the biggest Knicks fan you have ever seen, who had completely given up on hoops and going to the Garden (something he used to do a ton) after the Isiah insanity… Is back in the Garden, facebooking about it, texting me picture of Knicks CIty Dancers and Lin, yelling his stats out, it is absolutely awesome.

It’s high time that stereotype gets crushed.

And lucky for me, my East Conference team is the Knicks. So I’m enjoying it as well, as I shake my head and mutter “typical Dubs”

by shankbone on Feb 14, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That was because you sucked.

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think last year's yo-yo halted progress

This year, as much as I like Belt, I think it would be wise to have him starting in Fresno for a couple months. I think we need to see what Huff can do this year, and maybe use Pill as an insurance policy and right handed bat. Pill is farther along in his progress, so I find it more prudent to use him now and Belt later. Obviously Belt is by far the best glove of the 3, but Huff and Pill can get by, especially if Huff can just stay at 1b.

My ideas can be totally blown up and could turn out completely erroneous by the start of the regular season, but it just seems like a good idea to me. Belt is certainly the one that needs polishing. Why pressure him in the big leagues when it isn’t necessary? Sure, if the Huff and Pill idea blows up early, call up Belt. But once you call him up, stick with him.

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by Effage on Feb 14, 2012 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

I am, at the same time, an optimist and a pessimist.

Here is what I think he’ll hit:
AB: 520
HR: 33
BA/OBP/SLG: .346/.458/.669

Unfortunately, he’ll be doing this for the Fresno Grizzlies.

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by calgiants86 on Feb 14, 2012 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

HAHAHA

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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Well done.

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by bgunn on Feb 14, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Belt…. hmmmmm
I’ll say traded for an aging middle infielder.

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

I’m honestly surprised so many people have him pegged for more than 300 ABs.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

Also, LOL STAR WARS.

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by capn on Feb 14, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Late to the Belt party

AB: 402
BA: .262
OBP: .332
Slug: .454
HR: 14
2B: 21
SB: 8

Useful and dangerous. Threw in some auxillary stats for fun.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 14, 2012 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

So I can laugh at myself in the future

470 ABs
HR: 20
AVG: .275
OBP: .367
SLG: .476

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:34 PM PST reply actions  

I would be very surprised if anybody not named Panda go for 20 bombs this season

Posey included since I don’t think he will play more than 120 games

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

But Brandon has the oppo taco swings.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

for Fresno

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

See: below.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

If anyone on this team approaches 20 HRs other than Panda it will be Posey or Belt. That’s it. Nobody else.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’ll help them win many innings.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt is the most likely guy to do it

Followed by Posey
Huff
Melky

None of those guys have a great shot, but I would not be surprised to see 1 or 2 do it.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Feb 14, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know, I see Crawford with at least five splash hits this year.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, the sweet sound of gatorade.

by Hyoton on Feb 14, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t know they installed a hot tub at second base… ;)

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Alternative answer, Fresno line.

AB: Too many
HR: 26
AVG: .365
OBP: .382
SLG: .660

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 14, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

wow he's going to stop walking?

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

They told him to be more aggressive

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Feb 14, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoops, meant for that to be .482. Hopefully he doesn’t turn into Brandon Keppinger.

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by Soulbrother16 on Feb 14, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Please

AB: 373
HR: 45
AVG: .362
OBP: .609
SLG: .812

by MC Hang on Feb 14, 2012 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

If he does that….

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd take that

I’m assuming it comes with 232 walks?

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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Feb 14, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

you know what?

why the fuck not

AVG: .322
OBP: .412
SLG: .509
HR: 16
AB: 415

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

I like this.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

In fresno or in SF? J/k..

I doubt the ABs but I could see him OBP > 400.

I really hope he pulls a “Posey May 2010” in April 2012.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Posey didn’t do anything great in May, other than get called up. It was July that was insane.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

on June 30, 2010

Buster was hitting .289/.314/.381

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry you are right..

I was just at the game when he got called up and killed it. But yeah, sorry, That should read July not May.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I was there too

It was awesome. I’m holding onto my ticket stub to it in the childish hope that it will be some sort of awesome memorabilia 20 years from now.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

He passed Bochy’s “don’t make major mistake in the first 3 weeks” test.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

He passed the “good batting average” test coupled with “does he get ribeyes?”

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd guess he'd have more home runs

He had less than half that many ABs last year and finished with 9 home runs. You’re predicting he doubles his ABs AND increases his average by 100 points, but doesn’t even double his HRs? I’d definitely take your stats, but I think if he hits .322 we can expect at least 20 home runs.

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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Feb 14, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

i'll take it

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Plenty of room for SSS shenanigans in 200 PAs. HR rate and HR/FB% aren’t supposed to stabilize until around 300 PAs, so it’s very possible that Belt outperformed his power potential in last year’s sample. He wasn’t projected to hit for as power as he did in 2011 (much like Buster in 2010), so 16 HRs actually seems like a very reasonable or even optimistic projection for 400 ABs.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

.920 OPS!

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

.921

Belt > Lopez

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's my guess

AVG : .282
OBP : .346
SLG : .448
The rest of the stats are strictly PA dependent.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

Beltsanity

I have a bad feeling Belt is going to underwhelm in the early season (he will probably pinch hit a lot), and when he eventually gets traded for a gritty vet, he will turn it on in his new home.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

Giants won't trade him until his value is lowest,

which will significantly impact the quality of gritty vet they get in return. Not all gritty vets are terrible, but I trust the annual mid-season acquisition will be closer to that than a surprise Randy Winn.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s been ages since I was there. Asian Fusion might still have been hot.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Feb 14, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I just can’t believe it has been 17 years. I used to live in Cole Valley and when there quite a bit…

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

484 AB
22 HR
.338 BA
.365 OBP
.535 SLG

In AAA

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by bigboneded on Feb 14, 2012 4:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

GiantPain: as the resident Werth expert

Clubhouse Confidential just said that if Harper makes the Nationals, it would shift Werth over to CF where he would still be an above average defender.

Is this true?

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

Ehhhhhhhhhhhh

Color me skeptical.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what I think

but I don’t really know Werth’s numbers.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I just hope

The NL East is a bloodbath this year. It got better this offseason.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see his rf skill necessarily translating well to cf

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

probably not

but having both Werth and Harper in the Outfield will be interesting to watch.. at the plate.

That’s going to be a good team this year or next. I dont really see any team running away with the east this year.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s remember that Werth hit .232/.330/.389 last year, and that Bryce Harper would be a 19 year-old facing pitching about AA for the first time in his life.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Im still hoping they do well and the marlins, Nationals, and Phillies pull a 3 stooges on each other all season.

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by ELOOIE on Feb 14, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be nice. Braves should be competitive, too.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL METS

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by SFGuy on Feb 14, 2012 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Always lol mets, Guy. Always.

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by Solidarity on Feb 15, 2012 1:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I cannot find much for 2011 on fangraphs for some reason

but when he played CF in 2010 for the Phillies, it was not pretty.

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by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Fangraph actually discussed this issue
Jayson Werth is an athletic player, and he has experience in center field, but he is also an expensive player, and Washington needs to make sure he doesn’t end up as a sunk cost. Werth may be able to hang in center field this season, but recent history shows that the Nationals would be wise to make sure that this experiment lasts for only one season — if it lasts that long at all.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jayson-werth-center-fielder/

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe he could play an average center field

He was the regular backup CF in Philly, and has played more than 100 games there in his ML career, If it hadn’t been for Victorino, he probably would have played there a lot more.

He would not be a plus CF. But his career UZR/150 in the outfield (at all three positions) is +8.2. I think that just about anyone who’s a +8 defender in a corner could probably fake it in CF, and Werth has good instincts and a great arm.

Might be my rose colored glasses, but I think it’d work out fine for a few years. I doubt he’d be any worse than, say, Cody Ross.

by GiantPain on Feb 14, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

And. of course

The important thing is that he’d immediately become one of the better hitting CFs in baseball, which could compensate for any defensive struggles.

by GiantPain on Feb 14, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Given the length of his career, and the recent downtrend in his defensive numbers, I’d be very hesitant to make a blanket statement like +8 defender. That number is founded primarily on two outstanding seasons (2007-2008), counterbalanced by one disastrous season (2010), and a lot of average to above average in 2002-2005. Aaaaaand most of that value (26 of 44.5 career UZR) is from his arm, weighed against 17 for range at a corner.

He should probably stay in right field.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Is he a better defender in RF than CF? Yes, of course.

Will he embarrass you in CF? I doubt it. He’s probably a -2 defender or so at this point.

by GiantPain on Feb 14, 2012 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d take him in CF over Melky, but that may just be my body bias.

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

All things considered - I'd take this.

AB 330
HR 13
AVG .272
OBP .347
SLG .461

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by Smotheredinhugs on Feb 14, 2012 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

that was Linsane. still, knicks down by 14

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

http://extreme1sports.blogspot.com/p/ch1.html

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The way the word RAPTORS is painted on the court out of bounds is blowing my mind every time someone walks on it.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Feb 14, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Only 9 points in the first half.

People can maybe stop talking about him now.

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

6 assists/5 TOs

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I have 10 assists and 7 TOs

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 6:11 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

24 points, 11 assists, 8 TO and he just tied tied the game with a minute left. Knicks were down about 10 10 mins ago.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

you can’t have 8 TOs as a PG

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

And he just hit a 3pt game winner! Well, 0.5 seconds left

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Tim Tebow says hi

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 6:40 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

lol u mad

in his worst game so far, he goes for 29 points and 11 assists, with a game winning shot.

nothing like Tebow.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

As if Tebow could put up 29 points.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

his last game was actually the game before

You can’t have 8 TOs as a PG.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 6:44 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah, they should have benched him.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, obviously you can, he just did.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

He had 27 and 11 assists but 8 TOs

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 6:46 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I don’t know where the fancy NBA stats are, but I’m going to guess his were good for that game.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

As a starter, 2011-2012 (per game)

Jeremy Lin: 27 points, 9 assists, 6 turnovers
Steph Curry: 17 points, 7 assists, 3 turnovers

I’m pretty okay with the extra three turnovers, especially because a lot of those are probably from him working inside or driving to the hoop, which is what the system asks him to do. Steve Nash has averaged 3-4 TOVs per game since picking up D’Antoni’s system.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

What are the minutes per game for each? Total TOs are misleading. It depends on both minutes played and how much that PG has the ball in his hands. Assist/TO ratio is a better PG stat.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Per 36 minutes

Lin: 25 points, 9 assists, 5 turnovers (approximate)
Curry: 18.6 points, 7.2 assists, 3.2 turnovers

Curry’s playing about 33 minutes per game, Lin is playing about 40 as a starter.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

FUCKING CLUTCH

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't fixate on one stat

He had a good game across the box score. 27 points on 9-20 shooting (2-2 3pt) and 11 assists.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

8 TOs and Toronto’s PG scored on him easily

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 6:47 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

so far this year

Lin is putting up .217 Win Shares per 48 minutes. League average is .100.

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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

His PER, which I believe is one of the big advanced basketball stats, is 25.8, compared to 15 league average.

League leader this year is Lebron at 32.3. Lin would be 4th, behind only James, Paul and Durant.

His WS/48 would be 10th in the league.

Considering he’s basically a rookie, that seems pretty impressive to me.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

You could say that the New York Knicks

has found their VaLINtine

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont get it

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It's more Amare sucking

9 pts, 4/9 shooting, 6 assists for Lin
Amare 8 pts, 2/9, 3 rebs

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

…and 5 TOs for Lin. He might get a triple-double that way, and it won’t be pretty.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

5 TOs and the Toronto PGs are lighting up the scoreboard.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

that Chandler dude plays like a rookie

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Landry Fields

2-6, 6 pts, 5 Assists, 1 TO

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately

he went to Stanfurd

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I HOPE THEY NEVER STOP

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

wait…aren’t you japanese?

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

my gaffe.

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s from Laos. It’s a landlocked country in South East Asia between Vietnam and Thailand, population approximately 4.7 million.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

thank you, sir

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

/wonders about this exchange

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

/likewise

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Howie was quoting from King of the Hill. I am not Laotian.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, I don’t care anymore

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Certainly, not knowing Nat’s last name or really anything else about him, it makes enough sense to guess that the guy who named himself after a Japanese dish was of Japanese heritage.

I was just making a little joke.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

CAN’T YOU BE SERIOUS FOR A CHANGE

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer XM

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

6 game winning STREAK!!!!!!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

They're joking right? Nobody actually likes that song.

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@bcraw35 song of the decade..

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 14, 2012 5:19 PM PST reply actions  

It would be a decent song, if it wasn’t so overplayed or overrated. For it to win accolades would be ridiculous.

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by garbanzo24 on Feb 14, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

athletes = worst taste in pop culture

except for Brandon McCarthy.

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Pop Culture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxPbgnO81sQ

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

They play the song everywhere! It has to be an award-winner.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Moves like Jagger is the Jeremy Lin of the music world.

Overplayed and over hyped.

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never heard it.

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by SFGuy on Feb 14, 2012 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, fine. I like that song.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Maroon 5 just knows catchy.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never liked Levine’s voice.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

This made me love Adam Levine.

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by kdl on Feb 14, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t particularly mind Adam Levine, but I am obligated to root for him for the next several weeks because of The Voice.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I can see that.

I usually get sick of their songs super fast. This one’s just so peppy.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think if I didn’t hear it used everywhere I could appreciate it better.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

This is nice
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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

Good for them....
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by capn on Feb 14, 2012 5:24 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Link to article

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203315804577209230884246636.html

rec’d

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

My first reaction is "Good."

Then I realize those people won’t be any closer to vaccinating their children (and, presumably, themselves). Then again, they weren’t going to do it anyway, so, better to open up a spot for someone who needs/wants proper medical care, I suppose.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah
The rise in patient firings reflects another factor. As patients have become savvier and more willing to challenge doctors, physicians have become increasingly reluctant to deal with uncooperative patients, said Arthur Caplan, a bioethics professor at the University of Pennsylvania. In addition, doctors may feel financial pressure to see more patients and so have less time to contend with recalcitrant ones.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Arthur Caplan is a blowhard.

by capn on Feb 14, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Most professors in news articles are.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Savvy is great in baseball, bad in medicine. Unless it’s salve.

by Every6thDay on Feb 14, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t call it savvy, honestly.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Stealing this joke from Grant
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
For those asking: There is zero chance the Pirates will include any top prospect, like Taillon or Cole. There was never a chance.

You don’t say.

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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 14, 2012 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

HOW’S THAT FEEL BUDDY?!?!?

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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 14, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, perhaps I should have added

this is in reference to the A.J. Burnett/Pirates trade.

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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 14, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

This must have been a fun scene to film.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

A few days ago my friend created a Lynbrook Memes Facebook page

Much of the content is really stupid, but some of it is funny. This is what my math teacher posted:

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

They have these for every single school now. Like, 1/15 is good.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 14, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

So I’ve noticed.

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Get the money
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by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

They have them for colleges too as my sister who’s in keeps posting them on Facebook.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 14, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s a UCLA one that went around last week or so. I’d say, at max, a quarter of them are funny.

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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 14, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Most of the Stanford ones I saw were hilarious.

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem is that the “anybody can be a content creator” culture of Tumblr, YouTube, Twitter, and so on, is that people actually believe it.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

High schools have memes now?

I am officially old.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

/joke about having a landline and using the word “album”

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
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by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

In my day, we didn’t even have “landlines”…we called them “telephones”.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Feb 14, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

We had “party lines” and I don’t mean those 900 numbers they advertise on late night tv!!

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

whoa
Mrs_McCarthy32 Amanda McCarthy
Excited for our romantic date with the Cahill’s. I am sure Jess and I will have another drinking contest while the guys watch! Lucky boys :)

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 14, 2012 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

I kind of want to be the fifth wheel.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

also twss…

No relation to Matt Cain...

by Caine Black Knife on Feb 14, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

twss

No relation to Matt Cain...

by Caine Black Knife on Feb 14, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Did this come after spending ten minutes discussing Tebow? That’s enough to rile any guy up

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 14, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

More likely they were discussing Lin.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Like a video of Tebow and Lin working out together

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 14, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

that would cause an ESPN/Twitter singularity.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you just coin Huffalo?

Or was that around before?

No relation to Matt Cain...

by Caine Black Knife on Feb 14, 2012 6:00 PM PST reply actions  

Goes back to the Wild Kingdom Defense comparisons from the days of yore.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

If Huff gets good again

they should start selling Huffalo Horns hats.

No relation to Matt Cain...

by Caine Black Knife on Feb 14, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

As if Grant comes up with his own material.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He did come up with Lin-Sanity though

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by NuschlerFace on Feb 14, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I have Lin-continence!

Colbert had a bunch of great Lin diseases the other night.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Lintestinal blockage!

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

What are all you other lovely people without dates doing for dinner?

I grilled a steak and made some pasta salad

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 6:06 PM PST reply actions  

Studying. Hopefully the Cafe will have a wrap thing so I won’t have to eat yogurt for dinner.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Feb 14, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to make a sandwich

Bacon, Arugula, Onion, Swiss Cheese, Avocado, with mayo and a sprinkling of oregano on toasted French bread.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Delicious.

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

spaghetti night!

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Sobbing in the corner of my room in the dark.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Do your tears taste good at least?

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Let me just get this out of the way, TWSS

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

silly girl. you cannot twss yourself!

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, oh my

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS for sure

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

leftover fried rice

holy shit, that was the saddest thing ever.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have a date, just a husband and two kids.

But the lamb korma that’s been cooking all day smells marvelous. Can’t wait to dig in.

/goes to find a good bottle of wine in the pantry

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by can of corn on Feb 14, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure. Stuck working late. Some cold dinner and a stiff drink for sure :D

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I just ate a bowl of cereal.

So pathetic.

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by kdl on Feb 14, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with a little Brinner

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey – that was my dinner last night. Nothing wrong with that!

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

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by can of corn on Feb 14, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It kind of is lame when other people are out having fancy VD dinners.

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by kdl on Feb 14, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck ’em.

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Valentine's Day is bullshit.

And I’m happily married.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I got flowers for valentines day first time in eons.

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I send flowers to my hubby every once in a while.

Even on Valentine’s Day one time.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I have all the dried rose petals from all the roses he ever sent me, I keep saying I’m going to make beads out of them but never get around to it.

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Does Mr. Merope know?

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope so, otherwise he’s going to be awfully surprised when he gets his credit card bill!

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

to me…VD = venereal disease
who’d want that for dinner?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why I refer to it as VD. That’s the name it deserves.

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by kdl on Feb 14, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I stopped celebrating Valentine's day 9 years ago!

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

/sends a valentine kiddle’s way

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. :)

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by kdl on Feb 14, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I am married

but we just made spaghetti and meatballs.

So alone...
Twitter

by scout6 on Feb 14, 2012 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

any resident web site designers hangin' around here?

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

NEW CHOPPED TONIGHT

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:15 PM PST reply actions  

don’t see it

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see any new thread

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

NEW [episode of popular food network show] CHOPPED TONIGHT

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

trickster!

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet.

I just want to read ACoK, tho.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

how far are you?

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Just at the beginning.

Tyrion just got through firing Janos Slynt.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I've got Chopped on right now

and all the chefs are English. There’s an Asian guy that is so hot.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

omg love that scene

not quite as satisfying as a later scene involving Janos Slynt though…

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that was nice.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Ironic that Tyrion helps his own cause

but made Jon Snow’s life a little harder.

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

That's not irony

that’s Tyrion being Tyrion.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

He's one of my favorites.

Who would have thought… a Lannister.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

i love lannisters

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

wut

Even Cersie? Tywin?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Gemma’s not so bad.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Tywin is amazing

and Cersei is entertaining as hell.

I mean I don’t want to be friends with either of them, but they’re awesome characters.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Not boring like Davos. /ducks

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Davos is ok. The Ironborn can DIAF for all I care.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

wow rude

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Just a little trolling.

He’s better than Theon.

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Theon is one of the most interesting characters in the book to me

once you know his whole arc (so far) and his TWOW chapter was fantastic!!

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Right now he’s Reek.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, perhaps you're right,

I still have yet to read ADWD.

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

ohhhhhh

yeah, get on that, imo.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what the reread is leading up to.

At this rate, it’s gonna take me a while. Im enjoying it, tho.

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I both like and root for Theon

Yeah, I’m weird. I like Sansa and Cat too.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Sansa and Cat, too.

Poor Sansa, she’s just an annoying kid, she doesn’t deserve what she gets. And Cat is awesome.

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Sansa is maddening. Arrya, now there’s a Stark.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Sansa is amazing.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone should love Sansa.

She is the best character in the books.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

She gets hooked up with the worst men

completely against her will.

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

She’s an idiot who believes anything she’s told.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Have you only read the first book or something?

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, she’s 12 fucking years old.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Calling Sansa an idiot is legit making me angry. She is learning how to play the game to a far greater degree than any of her other siblings ever will.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m on ADwD. She’s completely helpless and just trusts anyone. As for her age, everyone is super young in those books. Look at Arya, she’s the youngest daughter and she’s a bad ass.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Sansa would not have survived if she’d been put through what Arya has, but neither would Arya have been able to survive if she’d been put through what Sansa has.

If you honestly think Sansa is still “completely helpless and just trusts anyone” after AFFC and ADWD, when she has shown clear signs of guessing Littlefinger’s cunning plans before he ever explains them to her and is starting to take agency in her life, then I don’t know what to say.

Her character has changed a ton since the first book, because she has had to learn some brutal lessons about the danger of idealizing people and dreams. But I think you need to go back and re-read her chapters from the last two books, because she’s far from the little girl in GOT who was sad she might leave her boyfriend.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

She has developed some but now it seems she is trusting Littlefinger too (even after their encounter in the yard at the Eyrie and the ordeal with the Moon door).

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

If you think she’s trusting Littlefinger, again, you need to re-read her chapters.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

She seems to at least be aware that he is playing a game but I think she has an advantage in that she is Cat’s daughter. It’s more Littlefinger’s weakspot I think.

Then again I am probably biased because of the way she started out. I did think it was cool how the Hound looked out for her though.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like a lot of people dislike Sansa and like Arya because Sansa is the very epitome of the girly-girl stereotype, where Arya is much more RAH LOOK AT HOW BAD ASS I AM. And I adore both of them, don’t get me wrong, but I think Sansa is becoming just as badass as Arya, just in a much different way.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Well she’s survived this far so that has to say something about her. I hope your right and she is able to hatch a scheme of her own. Maybe she could be like the Prince of Dorn. Handling shit from behind the scene.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think George is definitely setting her up to take out Littlefinger and take his place as a big-time schemer, but we’ll see!

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh Georgy. What do you have in store for all of us?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I hated Sansa in the first book but by the 2nd book she was my favorite (while Arya’s story bored me more and more). I don’t think you could more trapped and hopeless than she was in while in King’s Landing and that’s what got me

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Feb 14, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Sansa would say she takes after her mother

but she is truly her father’s daughter. Jon and Robb, too. All are very honorable, but quite naive. They want to believe the best about people, and get proven wrong.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, this too

Drives me nuts when people criticize Sansa for being too trusting but think Ned, Robb and Jon are all awesome

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned and Robb were both pretty dumb too. Just look at how they walked right into their deaths. At least Jon seems tempered by the way he had to grow up. I think Tyrion helped him with the little time they had together too.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS in SPADES!

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Or, like, blaming Sansa fo Ned’s death when NED WAS THE ONE who walked up to Cersei and was like “Oh hey I know your secret, this is my exact plan, I’m sending the girls home, etc etc.”

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s his own fault for sure but she didn’t have to run to Cersie either.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

She was 12. I’ve had 12 yr old kids. They are brain dead. Sansa is above the curve

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Yeah I work with 12 year olds every day and Sansa is much more mature than most of them.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don’t think the age thing is even an excuse when you have Bran saying he’s almost a man grown at the age of 8. Or Danny becoming the Dragon queen at, what, 16?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, Ned is talking about how Rickon doesn’t have long until he’s a man grown either and he’s like 2.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what I’m saying. Seems people grow the fuck up quick in Westeros.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

And the Starks are kind of crazy.

I mean, no one’s making out Myrcella and Tommen to be anything but pawns right now.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Tommon is definitely a pawn. I wonder if his beating at the hands of Bran was basically some sort of foreshadowing.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe! I heard some interesting theories about the Bran/Jaime interactions in GOT being foreshadowing for the final showdown.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned might have actually explained to her why she had to leave instead of just being like “THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING YOU HAVE TO GO HOME NOW.”

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

She was really frustrating when I started reading, but Martin did a good job of developing from there. Which I’m sure was his plan. I’ve learned not to trust first impressions of his characters.

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by Ott on Feb 14, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL ROB!

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Robb is just lucky he’s so pretty, because there’s not much going on upstairs.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, forgot two B’s. Oh well.

And yeah, he’s probably a decent swordsman and battlefield tactician, but man, he’s definitely the daft one of the bunch.

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

She took care of me! I had to marry her!

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what? You guys are right! I should be king in the north! What could go wrong?

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

HONOR!!

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably just too young to really be in power. (Same with Joffrey, but he was also a sociopath).

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If he'd listened to his mother more,

he’d have done a lot better.

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

True for both of them, tbh.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

LIFE LESSONS

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

He's got that confident kingly vibe going

that makes people want to follow him. He fakes it real well.

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

That scene in ACOK where the crown makes him uncomfortable but he wears it anyway when his subjects are around makes me all :’(

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

She’s only a maid of three-and-ten!

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Cat

mostly, except when she was being mean to Jon.

And I feel sorry for Sansa and Theon.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I like that Cat is mean to Jon

because otherwise, she’d be almost too good. They ruined her in the tv show, imo.

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

She was harsh with Jon

But I don’t really blame her. In that society, a man raising his bastard (that he would have had while he was married to his wife while she was pregnant with his legitimate kid) with the rest of his kids and expecting his wife to be okay with it is pretty disrespectful to her. She obviously got over it with Ned and probably should have gotten over it with Jon too, but I don’t blame her for not doing so.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I see. Yeah they are certainly good for the books themselves. I don’t find myself cheering for them though.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

They're awesome.

I love the interactions between Tyrion and Varys.

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by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I <3 my Lannister tshirt

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m 1/2 way through ADwD right now.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Belt

AB: 412
HR: 22
AVG: .282
OBP: .376
SLG: .493

Optimism has essentially defined the Giants’ moves this offseason: optimism that Posey will get better, that Sanchez will recover, that Cabrera and Pagan will produce. If the actual outcomes fulfill the pessimists’ expectations, then it’s going to be a long season.

by WasabiTorture on Feb 14, 2012 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

If Belt gets 412 AB and .376 OBP

That would be so awesome.

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by Caine Black Knife on Feb 14, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I've made this prediction before, but I'll do it again: Brandon Belt will never get 500 at-bats in a season for the Giants.

I suppose I should add the caveat that I mean “not in the next fifteen years” when I say “never”, but that should go without saying.

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by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

Banned

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by Caine Black Knife on Feb 14, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t shoot the messenger!

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by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

/shoots the messenger

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 14, 2012 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

well, that just means that he isn’t very good.

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Or it means that Bochy gets extended for another decade.

by jhawx on Feb 14, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandoval is proof that y’all are off yer rockers.

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Man I'm tired of these "Real Men ask for direction" B.S.

No, Real Men uses GPS or GPS enabled smart phone with digital compass to accurately derive the correct route to the destination. Less technology inclined men stop and ask for less precise direction.

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 6:33 PM PST reply actions  

no

People with GPSes are the worst.

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by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

OH MY FUCKING GOD

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM PST reply actions  

IKNOWRITE!

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not asian

but I have caught a series case of Linsanity! This is crazy.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

LIN-TESTINAL BLOCKAGE!

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha did you watch Colbert last night?

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If anyone missed it and cares

they’re showing the Town Hall meeting tonight at 7 on Inside the Clubhouse.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM PST reply actions  

I care

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I gotta say, we’re lucky to have such a fun team

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, hey, it's the Dog Show.

That’s where they’ve been hiding Mary Carillo.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, Jeremy Lin, huh.

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:38 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t see what’s the big deal.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

He's Asian!

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 6:41 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Call me when they beat a good team

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys are straight up hating

He could win every single game from here on out, averaging 20 and 10, and you guys would still be nitpicking something.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate Cam Newton, and even I had to stop hating on him after a while.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Or some of us could be still trying to furiously not give a goddamn.

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by can of corn on Feb 14, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

If he did that I would applaude him

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You do realize that there are reasons beyond basketball for me rooting for Lin, do you?

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

No, you’re just buying the ESPN hype.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Los Angeles Lakers would be the 5th seed in the Western Conference

if the playoffs started today. Considering they started the season without Bynum, I think that qualifies as a good team.

So perhaps I should have called you last week

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by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Jazz were a playoff team last week as well. In fact they would still be a play off team if NYK didn’t give them a loss.

by Daver321 on Feb 14, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t get that. The Lakers aren’t a good team?

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Overrated and overhyped

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Classless, vile team

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, he outplayed Kobe. But I want to see him outplay somebody good.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on your standards… A good team in that they will definitely make the playoffs and consistently beat bad teams. Not a good team in that they have really no shot at contending for a title as currently constructed.

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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 14, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

this is just fucking insane

I am cooking steak right now and I almost dropped the skillet

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 6:40 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

LINbowing

Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"

Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"

Pat Burrell: "The Patural"

Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"

by slackersphere17 on Feb 14, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

MAKE IT STOP

My twitter is still full of it, this place is full of it. . . I’m so fucking tired of hearing about it.

Also, I don’t much care for basketball, and this isn’t helping.

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by can of corn on Feb 14, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

In this line

Mostly because of the awful puns. Holy shit.

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by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I only follow baseball and hockey players so I’ve no linvestment in the NBA

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I couldnt care less

except it makes jctgamer happy.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t watched an NBA game is years, but I am into this Lin thing.

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

So I guess we’ll get to watch him tomorrow, maybe our bad luck will rub off on him and he’ll regress to meh.

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I could do without the puns.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't live without buns

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

especially the ones with guns

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Nuns with guns are fun

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by Johnny Disaster on Feb 14, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see how life could go on without char siu bao.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

or shiao lun bao!

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

My husband is going out to get us The Hook burgers

from Surfrider Cafe. Carmelized onions and gorgonzola. So awesome.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

Dammit I want carmelized onions

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The PECOTA folks are making a big deal about how all other projection systems overrate the importance of the most recent season, while new PECOTA gives plenty of weight to earlier seasons in a player’s career. Why, then, is PECOTA’s Huff projection lower than everyone else’s?

by Evan on Feb 14, 2012 6:51 PM PST reply actions  

PECOTA's comps are the funniest shit I've ever seen

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Crawford's comps

18 combined All-Star game!

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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 14, 2012 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, Huff has sucked a number of times.

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by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

PECOTA weighs odd years extra.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Feb 14, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Was it discussed

that this morning Kuip said the player he’s most interested in seeing in ST (after Buster, of course) is Cabrera. He says he just thinks of him as a guy sitting on a bench.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 6:53 PM PST reply actions  

With an empty box of sunflower seeds on his head?

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

gawd, every time I see that name I think Orlando

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

This line.

Twitter Blog
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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 14, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s kind of disturbing.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Combined records of teams the incomparable Jeremy Lin has beat: 66-104

Nets 8-21
Jazz 14-13
Wizards 6-22
Lakers 16-12
T’Wolves 13-16
Raptors 9-20

Let me know when he does it against good teams please!

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 6:56 PM PST reply actions  

LOL burying the Lakers in there

Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

No t burying at all. That was the order they played in.

Besides the Lakers, are nothing special this year.

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

also

Lakers are awful on the road this and bad against quick PGs

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 7:28 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I mean, are you fucking serious?

You are sounding exactly like how Skip Bayless and Tim Kawakami construct their arguments right now. Cherry Picking everything to try to prove your point.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

am I serious about the Lakers?

Yes they are awful against quick guards.

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 8:10 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

They Beat the Boston Celtics

In Boston Garden. Rajon Fucking Rondo is not quick enough for you?

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm anxious to see him play against good teams too

I want to see him transition from hype machine to solid point guard. Hopefully he can do that.

by ohcleverhansyou on Feb 14, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I want to see him match up against a team like the Bulls or the Heat

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, he's going against the Kings next

So we’ll have to wait a little more.

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

This Lin guy? When is that? We don’t watch much any basketball but the Mr. is curious.

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

tomorrow

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by Murray, Present on Feb 14, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

interesting….

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Better to go 6-0 against those teams than otherwise, right?

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

6-0 and without Amare and Carmelo for most of the games

You can only beat the teams they put in front of you, right?

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If he does it against teams like the Bulls and the Heat, i'll believe

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That's what worries me

People “believing.” I’m 80% sure he’s playing completely over his ability right now, and when he settles down, there’s going to be so much backlash. I’m hoping there’s a very solid player past the momentum/hype/poor competition.

by ohcleverhansyou on Feb 14, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The truth is that a lot of winning games happens against bad teams. That’s the exact thing that makes good teams good and bad teams bad. Good teams beat bad teams and bad teams don’t.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

But you must beat these two specific teams!

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT SCHEDULED TO PLAY THEM FOR A MONTH

I WILL RESERVE JUDGMENT UNTIL THEN

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

They play the Heat next week and they play the Bulls again March 12. Soon enough, I'd say

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Will they have to beat those teams to do something for your judgment, or does he just have to play well?

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I just want him to start for a decent amount of time before people

anoint him King PG of the NBA. Which has already happened. After, 6 whole games.

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think people are annointing him king PG of the NBA

I think he can be a starting point guard on an NBA team. That’s very different than saying he is better than Chris Paul.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

or Rose

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

people are saying that he is Steve Nash!

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by CalBear949 on Feb 14, 2012 8:11 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

People are saying that Mike D’Antoni made both players better.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I think the only people who think he’s a top PG in the NBA are his parents.

I think all the other people on the hype train are there for different reasons. Some of them very, very good reasons.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

that's kind of an exaggeration

not that many people outside of NY are doing that

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I don’t think he’s the best PG in the NBA.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

In the regular season last year, for instance, the Cardinals played 105 games against teams that finished the season at or below .500.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I have this and you don't right now

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

MAKE THE PLAYOFFS

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Two winning teams there.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Coach D’Antoni @Coach_D_Antoni

Floyd Mayweather thinks Jeremy Lin is overrated, which is funny because Jeremy Lin has managed to be undefeated without ducking anybody.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

lol!

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Boom.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Baby Giraffe:

AB: 550
HR: 23
AVG: .340
SLG: .460
OBP: .380

…..For the Fresno Grizzlies…

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by Little Napoleon on Feb 14, 2012 6:58 PM PST reply actions  

Uh. It’s probably not possible to have a .340 average, 23 dingers, and only an ISO of .120. Unless he stops at first base each time he hits a double.

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, even then it’s not possible.

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

you could hit 23 bombs and get a ton of infield hits

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope. Even if it’s all singles and 23 bombs, it’s a .465 slugging percentage.

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

infield hits and regular singles count the same

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by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You are not the khaleesi of how I tabulate slugging!

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by speckops on Feb 14, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, Red Wings set the home win record.

But just wait until the Sharks play them in a couple days! (we will extend their streak)

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 7:01 PM PST reply actions  

I bet Floyd Mayweather thinks Jeremy Lin only gets credit for that game winning 3

because he’s Asian

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

My favorite tweet from today:

Logan Couture @Logancouture Going to the aquarium with @JamieMcGinn64 on valentines day and being asked if we are a couple….very very strange…

Oh and hey twitter, the new interface sucks biscuits.

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:12 PM PST reply actions  

As I said in the prior thread, I ship it.

by WhatsAMataHari on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Adorable!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Belt:

AB: 350
HR: 16
AVG: .267
OBP: .371
SLG: .449

Or something.

by AmorVincitOmnia on Feb 14, 2012 7:15 PM PST reply actions  

PSA: Fantasy Baseball

If you were in the NL only “Senior Circus” league last season Mister Merope said he sent out emails [or it was sent out via yahoo] to see if you are interested in doing it again. I don’t think he’s got a deadline or a draft date or anything set up yet. Just respond to the note or email thingy.

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by Merope on Feb 14, 2012 7:19 PM PST reply actions  

Oh no! I didn’t get an email.

It’s because I won last time, isn’t it.

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by can of corn on Feb 14, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

We are watching game 5 of the WS.

Pitching, pitching, pitching and defense.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

and Dave Fleming!

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, crap, they have to show me Rowand's kid

waiving to dad from the stands.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

And made Bengie look back over his shoulder.

Never saw that slider before, huh, Beng?!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Feb 14, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The internet is dead, long live the internet

ESPN video headline: Linning-Three Lifts Knicks.

That’s the worst one I’ve heard yet.

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by free f.p. #14 on Feb 14, 2012 7:24 PM PST reply actions  

They will only get worse, before they get better.

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by LincecumFTK on Feb 14, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

xxx

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Feb 14, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Tebow doesn't deserve to be on that poster

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Feb 14, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe without that last line.

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by jhiat00 on Feb 14, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah

Lin actually looks like a professional basketball player when he plays

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Tebow also looks like a professional basketball player when he plays. Unfortunately, he plays football.

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by Natto on Feb 14, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Deal with it

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by DFARowand on Feb 14, 2012 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

ok

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

k

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, that’s some good ’shopping right there.

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

blue tongue... why?

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Gatorade maybe?

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by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Source of his power.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 14, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be awesome.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Feb 14, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

How're all these guys getting married on Sabean's watch?

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:50 PM PST reply actions  

HERE IS YOUR COMPLIMENTARY COW!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Feb 14, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s no Madison Bumgarner.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Feb 14, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Buster Posey:

grizzled veteran

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by son of ggf on Feb 14, 2012 7:55 PM PST reply actions  

LINSANITY!?!?!?!

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 8:02 PM PST reply actions  

maybe breaking???
Ryan Lillis @Ryan_Lillis
#Sacramento City Council votes 9-0 to move forward with #NBAKings arena. Big vote on finance package looms Feb. 28

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by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 8:06 PM PST reply actions  

NOOOO GRANT NOOOOOO

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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010

by PiKAgiant on Feb 14, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Huff sure had a good Spring last year for a guy who was supposedly out of shape.

I think his eating and drinking habits got him out of shape once the season started. He was fine during the spring. He never really looked that bad at the plate, the results were just bad. He did look bad in the field. But he looked more like a corpse than just an out of shape player.

by bradleybear on Feb 14, 2012 10:36 PM PST reply actions  

Wrong...

he sold his soul to the devil for his 2010 campaign. After his bad start last year he completely quit, fuck him, he’s an ass-hole.

by Billy Swift on Feb 15, 2012 10:21 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

AB: 575
HR: 28
RBI: 119
AVG: .301
OBP: .400
SLG: .525
SB: 30

I know what I’ve said in the past, but I’ve got a hunch Belt is going to break out in a big way.

by bernardking on Feb 15, 2012 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

AB: 385
AVG: .277
HR: 16
RBI: 54
OBP: .367
SB: 8

Don't believe everything you think.

by wcovington on Feb 15, 2012 6:56 PM PST reply actions  

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