If your name was Brian Sabean....
What's your move Brian? Your work horse starter and longest tenured player is still on track to become a free agent after this season. Your bonafied ace is as committed to staying together long term as a fatherless 17-year old prom date hoped up on Bacardi 151, BOTH of your backup shortstops are better than your starter (at least offensively), and your team's offensive centerpiece is attempting to return to All-Star form after essentially having his foot severed.
You've got two months until the season starts, you've got the authority to execute any trade or sign any player that you like so long as it doesn't include Timmy, Cain, MadBum, Panda or Buster, and it doesn't stretch the franchise more than a couple million bucks over their $130 million cap (let's say $134 is the hard cap). Given these circumstances, what's your best strategy for improving the Giants prospects in 2012 and beyond Brian??
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I’m thinking step two is selling the idea of a nine pack to Coors and making a fortune.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I just assumed that it was a 12 pack with 3 beers taken out.
Because they’re not worth 12 beers.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Or the "lite" version of Dos Equis.
I don’t always drink light beer, but when I do, I can choke down Un Equis.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
I highly recommend not accidentally reading this:
I don’t always drink light beer, but when I do, I can choke down Un Equis.
Like this:
I don’t always drink light beer, but when I do, I can choke down Un Equus.
by BestHyperboleEver on Feb 2, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I register the username "thefillmore" and try to troll McCoven denizens with useless posts
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Feb 1, 2012 10:18 PM PST reply actions
If my name was Brian Sabean, people would comment about how I have the same name as the GM of the San Francisco Giants. I’d probably find that annoying after a period of time and start to react negatively to those comments.
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Feb 2, 2012 9:18 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Umm....
Your bonafied ace is as committed to staying together long term as a fatherless 17-year old prom date hoped up on Bacardi 151,
What’s this based on? (I read that Lincecum’s agent said they’re still open to a long-term deal)
your team’s offensive centerpiece is attempting to return to All-Star form after essentially having his foot severed.
Based on what? (Sandoval is the team’ offensive centerpiece)
you’ve got the authority to execute any trade or sign any player that you like so long as it doesn’t include Timmy, Cain, MadBum, Panda or Buster, and it doesn’t stretch the franchise more than a couple million bucks over their $130 million cap (let’s say $134 is the hard cap).
Based on what? Can you please tell us how you got this inside knowledge regarding Sabean’s authority regarding who he can/can’t trade and what he can do with the budget?
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
Durf..
This is a hypothetical quesiton chief.
"You gotta have some serious talent to have 53,000 people saying that you suck. I'm proud of that." -Barry Lamar Bonds
Nothing
Not much Sabean can do at this point. Adding Theriot as a backup SS is as much depth as I want with Fontenot and shudder Burriss, and I’m mostly fine with the OF situation.
I would see what kind of offers I get for Brian Wilson, though. I doubt I’ll get enough for him but it’s worth testing the waters.
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
by quincy0191 on Feb 2, 2012 2:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That's the difference between you and Sabean
You test the waters, an event which may result in finding favorable conditions to leap in.
Sabean kicks tires, which rarely provides more information than a simple visual inspection and often ends with the kicker recoiling in pain.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
by Bhaakon on Feb 2, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I start trading with the White Sox, right stat now.
Look to trade Affeldt for anything, preferably a minor leaguer with some upside who’s far away from the majors and won’t cost ML salary. (-5 million)
Try to trade Belt for Alexei Ramirez. Sweeten pot with Hembree if necessary, though use Hector or something other than Heath if possible, because you’re gonna need him. (+5 mil)
Explore Adam Dunn. He’s owed more money than he’s worth, but if you can get the money down to less than 8 or 9 million per year, he’s worth it. Get him back into the national league and plop him at first. (+9 million)
If you haven’t traded Hembree, then trade Wilson and use Hembree to replace him. Again, preferably for a minor leaguer or someone making the minimum. That’s the Dunn money, right there (-9 mil)
Go into the season with a lineup of
Pagan CF
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Dunn 1B
Ramirez SS
Posey C
Cabrera LF
Schierholtz RF
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Adam Dunn?
He was worth -3 WAR last year, and has been a league average player twice in the last 5 years. And you would be willing to give him 9mil? You’d also be on the hook to pay Dunn through 2014, so that’s pretty risky.
I like the idea of trading Affeldt and Wilson, though. Belt for Ramirez would be interesting.
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - SLC
How much of Dunn’s 44MM is coming from the Sox in this scenario? 9MM a year? 3/27 then, you need him to put up at least 3.5 oWAR to compensate for the terrible D.
Dunn’s defense wasn’t terribly rated in 2010 (-0.3WAR BR) but 2009 it was miserable (-3.3WAR BR). 2008 was bad (-1.4). So you’re taking a big risk with age 32-34 seasons to rebound. He should get the bat back some, but that’s a pretty big risk. I would expect at least -1.0 WAR with the glove conservatively.
Hembree going straight into the Wilson roll might crash and burn in spectacular fashion, but on a slower schedule looks like the plan anyway.
You’d be trading for Ramirez’ age 30-33 seasons, at 32.5MM total plus the option for age 34. Giving up Belt’s cost control is a pretty expensive risk as well. Pretty sure Alexei is who he is, he looks like a better bat version of Alex Gonzo, with not as good a glove. If he continues on his last 2 seasons (3.7 & 3.3 WAR BR) he’ll be a good bargain at about twice the value of his salary.
But the defensive metrics of trading Crawford & Belt for Dunn and Ramirez will hurt a lot. You add over 60MM in salary versus cost control, and you’re buying into the over 30 years for both players. I wouldn’t do it, but the ChiSox are definitely an interesting trade partner if you could peel off something for less. I wouldn’t trade Belt.
Not sure why the Sox want Belt
Ramirez is locked up for awhile at below-market, and they have Konerko and Dunn and Viciedo. I think they’d want pitching more than hitting, and that they’re looking to rebuild and Belt isn’t the type of package they’d trade Ramirez for. Nor do I want to get anywhere near Adam Dunn – he would be a good buy-low if he weren’t owed so much money.
I also don’t see them eating Huff’s contract in any way. He’ll get another shot at 1B.
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
I hope Erick Aybar becomes a free agent
So that I have another shortstop to fawn over that the Giants will never sign next offseason.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Angels
I would gladly take Aybar or Maicer Izturis. Both play solid enough defense and they’re both offensive upgrades from Crawford. And now that they have King Albert, once Kendrys returns to health, they’ll have 3 legitimate hitters who play 1st, and if Aubrey shows signs of what he gave us last year, would be sweet to take one of those pieces off the Angels hands
"You gotta have some serious talent to have 53,000 people saying that you suck. I'm proud of that." -Barry Lamar Bonds
Rework the contract so Mr Johnson can't meddle & release Zito for cornnuts.
Look at baseball cards and then decide on the one with the best numbers 3 or 4 years ago.

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