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Regrets ... I've Had a Few

Everyone remembers the parable about the fox and the sour grapes, right? It's about a fox who sees a pile of moldy grapes in a dumpster behind a Cheescake Factory. He passes them up, goes several months without eating, and eventually goes insane thinking about how he regrets not eating the delicious moldy grapes, not even caring that the grapes might have made him sick because they were a) moldy grapes, and b) within three feet of Cheesecake Factory food.

Yeah, that parable always comes in handy. And it comes up now because the Yankees failed to reach an agreement with Hiroyuki Nakajima, Japanese shortstop extraordinaire. He's had a nice career in Japan, with a career .310/.381/.479 line and a positive defensive reputation. It's hard to figure out what those stats translate to. But here's a reminder:

Brandon Crawford .225/.291/.336

That projection is from the 2012 ZiPS projections, and it would be good for a 70 OPS+. Since moving to San Francisco, here are the shortstops that have done worse than a 70 OPS+:

Player Year OPS+ Age AB HR BA OBP SLG OPS
Edgar Renteria 2009 67 32 460 5 .250 .307 .328 .635
Omar Vizquel 2007 61 40 513 4 .246 .305 .316 .621
Royce Clayton 1994 67 24 385 3 .236 .295 .327 .623
Jose Uribe 1986 70 27 453 3 .223 .315 .280 .596
Hal Lanier 1969 46 26 495 0 .228 .263 .251 .514
Hal Lanier 1968 38 25 486 0 .206 .222 .239 .461
Hal Lanier 1967 42 24 525 0 .213 .239 .255 .494
Jose Pagan 1963 67 28 483 6 .234 .277 .300 .577
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Generated 1/5/2012, possibly by a guy who hasn't taken his sweatpants off for several days now.


Such fond memories, all. The odd thing about that list is that Renteria helped the Giants win a World Series, and Vizquel is still a beloved figure among Giants fans, as is Jose Uribe (and even Clayton, to a lesser extent). I have a Jose Uribe Starting Lineup figurine staring at me right now, even. It makes Uribe look like someone who ate Jose Canseco to build muscle. I guess we just love our punchless shortstops here. Weak-hitting shortstops are the sourdough bread of roster spots!

And now I'm looking at this Nakajima cat and wondering, wondering, wondering. Could he have been a .270/.330/.410 hitter in the majors? Oh, man, how sweet that would have been. And that's not overly optimistic, I wouldn't think.

The Yankees bid $2.5 million just for the rights to negotiate with him, and there's no word on whether talks fell apart because of the contract Nakajima was expecting, or because he'd have to be a caddy for Derek Jeter and Robinson Cano. If he was looking for a three year, $19 million deal, well, that wasn't going to work.

But from here those awful grapes sure look awful. And delicious!

If I had to rank the offseason regrets, it would go something like this:

  1. Not coming over the top with a 2/$30M offer to keep Carlos Beltran*
  2. Not getting a shortstop likely to crack a .700 OPS
  3. Not getting a guy like Melky Cabrera to make sure that Brandon Belt didn't get so many at-bats.

Whoops! Looks like that last one came true! Sweet. This offseason was soooooo easy. I'm a simple man. I didn't expect Prince Fielder. And if Carlos Beltran was going to get a three- or four-year deal from an American League team, it wasn't going to happen. But in hindsight, man, things sure could have been a bit more exciting on the ol' roster-building front. I'll miss pretending that Nakajima would have be an excitement lozenge in the scratchy throat of the offseason.

* To keep the analogy going, Carlos Beltran isn't a bunch of grapes, but rather a delicious and expensive vintage wine with a crumbly-ass cork on top that's about to disintegrate.

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Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 12:12 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Man. What a great 25 minutes that was.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

ass-cork!

Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

We all could have used one at some point in our lives.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Butt Pee pressure would just keep building

Until the cork was ejected at supersonic speed. You just gotta hope you weren’t pointed at someone when it goes.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I know a bad joke about this.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Does it involved camping?

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Now, where did that rascally ‘d’ come from?

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I apologize in advance. I don't know who made up this joke.

So there’s this group of three scientists, and they want to see what would happen if you stopped up an elephant’s butt for a while, and then released the stopper. Yes, they wanted to do this. It’s science. So they get everything set up. They even train a monkey to pull out the stopper on command. With the experiment ready and the elephant properly stopped for the designated time, they took their positions. One scientist stood 25 yards away. Another stood 50 yards away, and the last stood 75 yards away. Finally, they had the monkey pull the stopper and – BOOM! It’s a poo explosion. The farthest scientist is disgusted, up to his ankles in sloppy elephant poop. The next scientist can barely control his gagging, up to his knees. The last is up to his waist and laughing hysterically. The first two can’t believe it. “What’s so funny?” they ask. “You’re up to your waist in shit.”

The last scientist stops laughing long enough to say, “You should have seen the look on the monkey’s face!”

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The one I heard is a variant, but I love this joke.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Harder to know a good joke about it

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I did a bad Nyjer Morgan photoshop along these lines, but I think it was taken down. Either that or I forgot to hit ‘post’.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

FIFY
You just gotta hope you weren’t pointed at someone you like when it goes.

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by Goofus on Jan 5, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Moldy grapes make good wine apparently. I don’t drink, though.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

Botrytis Cinerea

Is a wonderful thing for specific desert wines, also called ‘noble rot’, there was a lot around this vintage due to the rain.

Temperance, like Chastity is it's own punishment.

by wineguy73 on Jan 5, 2012 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

But Crawford is gorgeous!

He is the Megan Fox of baseball. Great to look at, terrible to pay attention to!

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

I keep telling you guys, it’s about the pretty defense, not the pretty face.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Carlos Beltran isn’t a bunch of grapes, but rather a delicious and expensive vintage wine with a crumbly-ass cork on top that’s about to disintegrate.

Carlos Beltran wasn’t stored properly.

PS: Tickets for the Giants’ 2012 Spring Training home games go on sale Thursday, January 12 at 10 a.m. PT / 11 a.m. MT on sfgiants.com.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

Pro tip:

If you want cheaper tickets or Scottsdale Stadium gets sold out for your game (entirely possible) go see them play in Maryvale (Brewers) or Peoria (Padres/Mariners).

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by jhiat00 on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Although I must add that Maryvale isn’t a good neighborhood. So there is that.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 5, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I was mostly going for stadiums that don’t sell too many seats. But yeah, Tempe is a good location. Actually I used to play amateur ball on the Angels’ practice fields, Giants too!

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by jhiat00 on Jan 5, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

When do regular season single game tickets go out for the public?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jan 6, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

They already did. They had some special sales before the holidays so you could give people tickets as gifts. Get on their stoopit email list.

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by Merope on Jan 6, 2012 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

but when I go to the tickets section of the website they don’t let me buy any…?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jan 6, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you tell them you know Grant?

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

They slammed the door in my face and I heard them grumbling something about a llama

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jan 6, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I was gonna say.

Don’t tell them you know Grant.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

perhaps those “specials” are over? Seriously, get on the Giants email list or follow them on twitter. I’m constantly getting stuff about tickets. I think they are pushing the 6 packs at the moment.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 6, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

via twitter:
SFGiants San Francisco Giants
The Brian Wilson Gnome is part of the #SFGiants ORANGE 6Pack – Click here for more info [truncated url]

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/sf/ticketing/holiday_packs.jsp?partnerId=aw-8671676206668495963-1123

I keep telling them they need to do an “out of towner” pack that is weekends and maybe a weekday day game…. huh they are doing a “turn back the century” game. ooooooh do we get to see KnK in funny outfits again?

KnK check the schedule and ask for June 2nd off.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 6, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

You know who is not on that list of crappy shortstops?

Chris fucking Speier, that’s who!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

BOO

I can’t believe Johnnie LeMaster isn’t on the list.

by Giants Fan in MA on Jan 5, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably a playing time cutoff on Grant’s list. The only time he got more than 500 PA he posted a 76 OPS+. His career OPS+ with the Giants was 62,

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Jan 5, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks – I couldn’t tell from the list that there was a playing time cutoff.

by Giants Fan in MA on Jan 5, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

He had three different seasons with 450 PA and an OPS+ under 60, though.

by Roger on Jan 5, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You know who else is not on that list ? Tito Fuentes

Barely..
.268/.307/.347 OPS+ 82 oWAR 12.3 dWAR (4.5)

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by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

One of two shortstops to play for the San Francisco Giants for an extended time who didn’t suck.

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C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The "Hope" meme...

I just put on Godspeed You Black Emperor’s Yanqui u.×.o. and thought of McC when I saw the CD sleeve:

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

Aren’t you in the Mission? We were there this past Monday to check out the 49er mural on 23rd. Apparently Vernon Davis showed up to sign it, but we didn’t stay for that.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I am. I live in Good Vibrations (17th & Valencia).

I dont recall the 9ers mural (lots of good G’s ones in the hood though). Where on 23rd is it?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Nevermind

Apparently, I don’t know how to add a link.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You can just post the URL.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

quoteWriteStuffHerequotecolonURL

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

----

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I am in the Mission as well, around 16th & Van ness, getting price gouged for rent monthly.

Irrational Conor Gillaspie fanboy.

by Electric on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Are those manticores?

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Jan 5, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Motherfucker=Redeemer (Part Two) is da best.

Savoring disappointment since 1993.

by igjarjuk on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, there's always next year

Brian Sabean has about eleven months to realize that they play baseball in Japan.

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 5, 2012 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

N-O-T.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

FACT:

Brian Sabean thinks Japan is what Felipe Alou sounds like when he calls for a reliever.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Look, if they were any good at baseball they would be playing in the majors already, right?
Too risky.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

or

demanded more than one bidder.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 12:29 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Where now? You mean that park across Geary from the Kabuki 8?

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He knows, he just thinks it’s hard to judge the quality of Japanese hitters, since all the really good Japanese pitching is already in the US.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Standing in front

one those 100 variety soda machines.

Both impressed and in shock (TWSS)

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

It'd be b etter if there were good beers in there.

Sapporo or GTFO.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It was about 94 degrees at 4PM and we had been walking for 4 hours through Kyoto so this seemed like a good place to start

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope the beer was cold, at least.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The Baltimore Colts/Orioles had an announcer in who used to say, “Ain’t the beer cold” anytime something good happened (it used to happen quite frequently back then). It remains one of my favorite sayings. People in my lab think I am somewhat odd when I yell “ain’t the beer cold” after seeing great results.

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a similar saying that freaked out my cow-orkers: whenever I’m leaving I always say “Tickets, money, drugs” to remind myself to bring everything I need that’s important for where I’m going.

It was weird when people would stop by to walk to a meeting with me and I would mutter it as I was grabbing my stuff (notebook, laptop, whatever).

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

that is quite funny…

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember the O’s PA announcer always said “Give that fan a contract!” whenever somebody in the stands caught a foul ball.

by Roger on Jan 5, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Rex Barney! He was the best.

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Chuck Thompson!!
(Earl Weaver era)

"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Jan 5, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

God help you if you touch your beer can.

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

What color does it turn to tell you it has changed into a beer worth drinking?

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Blue, from what the ads tell me

/not a Coors fan

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Yebisu

is the absolute shizzle (and is made by Sapporo). But yeah Sapporo is great too. I don’t mind Kirin Ichiban though.

by DiggingForFire on Jan 6, 2012 1:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

there are a lot more risque dispensing machines in Japan.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

ew

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Just in case anyone is curious

http://www.crunchyroll.com/pulse/top-5-japanese-vending-machines-5719

It’s safe for work, I think.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa, how many quarters is this?

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by Soulbrother16 on Jan 5, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve seen vending machines in Macy’s with ipods in them. I think it was a security measure.

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

They have those in airport terminals.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

To pop your balloon
Smart Marketing in JapanThe clever “vending machine” pictured above is located in Japan. You can’t really buy a smart car from it, but you can get brochures and info about the various smart models. Yeah, it is anti-climactic.

http://www.treehugger.com/cars/smart-car-vending-machine-in-japan.html

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Japan was cool.

My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Jan 5, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

For what it's worth

They don’t have paper towels in public bathrooms so there are people handing out tissue/towel packets with advertising on them at busy intersections.

Also, could not find a public drinking fountain in Tokyo if my life depended on it.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That seems crazy.

Where is this and how obscure are some of those sodas?

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

it’s basically every variety of Coke product there is.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I ran into one of those at Dos Coyotes. It’s really cool.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The Beltran signing still makes me livid

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

the trade or the non-signing?

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG: skyrim

That is all.

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

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by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

Yep.

I was smart enough to realize that’s the last damn thing I’m doing in the game.

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think so.

Just wait till you get 100 locksmithing before you finish.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Jan 5, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem with that is that it doesn’t make it any easier unless you dump more points than I’d like to in that skill tree.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Very true.

You could just put perk points into Enchanting/Smithing and create jewelry/armor that fortify lock picking tho.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve gotten to the point where I’ve broken the combat through natural leveling, so I think I’m just going to brake it on purpose and give myself all those perks with console commands.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you mean broke the combat?

Like it’s too easy?

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Jan 5, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

What's your strat?

I am all about the sneak/bow combo.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Jan 5, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m the same way unless I feel like getting up in it or up against something more substantial. Then I go dual wield. I’m pretty well set on elemental resistances from enchanted items.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I just picked up another good sword to try out dual wield. I did a lot of sneak/bow in Oblivion (along with a good dose of invisibility), but my badass chick character seems to like to swing the sword.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I go with any sword that fits the situation paired with that awesome deadric mace. Two swords would probably be quicker but that mace is just so dang cool.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

/makes note “Keep an eye out for deadric mace”.

I’m only a few hours in. But I can’t wait until the kids are in bed and I can sneak in a little bit of playing time each night.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I started that quest, but I’ve been avoiding playing dirty and helping the daedra. Maybe next play-through, ’cause that thing is ridiculous.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s pretty messed up!

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I got Dawnbreaker, the Black Star, and Wobbajack, but only because those don’t require “HARVEST THESE SOULS FOR ME, MUAHAHAHA.”

Next play-through, I’m going assassin build and honey badgering the shit out of that game.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Sanguine Rose Sanguine Rose Sanguine Rose

It’s the best.

GROUGTHINK ALERT

by groug on Jan 5, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

I love love love my sanguine rose.

Yes! I DO have Nate's number tattoed on my ass. It's a long story.
http://www.leftymalo.com/2011/08/the_number_twelve.php

by jeremy.lassen on Jan 6, 2012 12:51 AM PST up reply actions  

The consequence of an open-ended game. If you take your time, sooner or later you trivialize most challenges.

As a heavy armor/shield/mace juggernaut, I one-shot or two-shot pretty much anything rank and file, and take almost no damage except from high level magic.

That said, I’m taking some time off to play Mass Effect 2 until the Skyrim cravings come back.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I wanna play it some more! I’ll probably by Oblivion first though.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Jan 5, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

A few hours Monday night.

Called in sick Tuesday to play, logged 12 hours.

Called in sick Wednesday to play, 9:30 AM to 2:00 AM.

Actually made it to work today.

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t you work on treating addiction?

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, yes. Who does the counselor go to when they need a counselor…

How do you throw away a trash can…

I need help.

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahahahaha

Makes me feel a little better about my continual 1 AM bedtimes (4 AM on weekends.)

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t go to sleep before 1 AM. I’ve been trying. I can’t do it.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t teenagers need a lot of sleep? I send mine to bed at 10 pm.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s probably not healthy what I’m doing.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Being unhealthy is a main component of being a teenager.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

1)You’re about to go to college and nobody sleeps before 1. Or at least if they’re doing it right

2)Some day you’ll be in your 40’s and can barely make it past 10 so enjoy being able to sleep til 1 AM now

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

You called in sick to play a video game?

You do know there are lots of unemployed people, right?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Unemployed = not getting paid sick time to play a video game.

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell me about it.

Can my husband have your job since you’re not using it?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m here today…

Feeding my other addiction…McC.

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Me, too.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

God. Maybe I don’t actually want to play this game.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

But you do.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Not if you have another life.

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

No, you totally do.

It’s unbelievably good.

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I only see one.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Refresh

this happens to me sometimes.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't give up!!

Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.

by Azmanz on Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. I would seriously hit my husband in the head with a frying pan if he played from 930am-2am.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Remind me of this:

[…] possibly by a guy who hasn’t taken his sweatpants off for several days now.

/working_from_home_in_sweats

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

My GF is at work for a month.

What she doesn’t know…

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, so I haven’t dived in with that much abandon, but I have played more hours than I should.

It’s pretty great.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m playing it but I’m not feeling the crack like addiction.

Belted!

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jan 5, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He disses Jerome Williams, too.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants Baseball: Ready to Settle
Brandon Crawford, Giants: The Giants, like the Braves, have been suspiciously silent this offseason, and seem ready to settle at multiple positions. In San Francisco’s case, though, that’s largely a function of making deals from the past clogging their payroll; we won’t beat on Barry Zito again here, but yes, he’s making $19 million this year to be a borderline fifth starter. Crawford showed better plate discipline last season in his 69-game debut than you’d have expected given his minor-league track record. But he hits the ball with all the authority of Enos Strate (timely!). It would be a terrible shame if the Giants wasted their incredible pitching for a second straight season. Playing Crawford every day could be one big step toward that disappointing outcome

.

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Obviously,

management knows something we don’t. And they won the World Series, so, these types of articles just expose the haters.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

we won’t beat on Barry Zito again here, but yes, he’s making $19 million this year to be a borderline fifth starter.

Jim Rome style.

“I’m not gonna talk about this thing…”
/talks about this thing

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Cicero was big on that, too.

by wcw on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s not a beating, more of a light tap.

Savoring disappointment since 1993.

by igjarjuk on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Your 2012 Giants: Together, We're Settling

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

...on Catan?

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Friend of mine, Yankees fan, just wrote and said

“There was an interesting article in the NY Times the other day. Apparently, when CJ Wilson was a free agent, his agent contacted the Yankees, but they said they weren’t interested. The columnist thinks that the Yankees are biding their time and saving their money to get Matt Cain when he becomes a free agent. I’ve seen that mentioned in other articles, too.”

How can we stop this? Seriously, what can we do? I’ve gotten someone a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Natto’s herded chickens to get a brick at the ballpark. We’ve got clout if we just organize enough. Let’s use it, for cryin’ out loud.

by mrs. owlcroft on Jan 5, 2012 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit!

SL…sorry.

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!

Fathaigh go mbuaimid!

Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .

Job 1:14-15

by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

>>>>

R..B..I’s,offensive heat
We’ll get you some, we will compete

I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.

by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

So do you go with the original song or try your own?

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever it takes to keep Cain here.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s sick. Rec.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s what made Cliff Lee a Phillie and not a Yankee

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Desperate times call for desperate situations

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Buy Giants products and/or services.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Can I get a couple hundred runs of support? Do you take two-party checks?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

That is true

Yesterday there was mention Cole Hammels and Cain will be FA next year, or are lined up to be.

I have to hope the Giants were sincere in going full speed at Tim and Matt this offseason, they are taking a public relations beat down for not signing anyone.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

OT and old

But I LOL’d:

8-bit BSG

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

Wow. That’s hilarious on so many levels.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Fat Apollo

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh boy
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Y! Sources: Golden State determined to be bidders for Dwight Howard as a rental, willing to sell him on long-term. yhoo.it/AuGM0W

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

are they interested in Steph Curry?

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I know this!

Autobot and Decepticon!

Millar guessed Huff’s kids.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I was guessing “Dude” and “Sweet.”

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to guess Pat and Burrell

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Douchebag x 2

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks more fit to me.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Need to see the abs.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to see the abs first.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting article about Boras
Agent Dan Lozano has negotiated more than $300 million in guaranteed money for clients Albert Pujols, Carlos Beltran and Jimmy Rollins, and Seth and Sam Levinson of ACES attacked the closer market with multiyear deals for Jonathan Papelbon and Heath Bell. But outside of Francisco Rodriguez, Willie Bloomquist, Bruce Chen, Andruw Jones and Andrew Brackman, Boras’ clients are still waiting to learn their 2012 destinations. He has a reputation for slow-playing the market, but could this be the winter that he’s waited too long?

“He’s the best for a reason,” said a National League executive. “You have to marvel at his smarts and all that. But eventually, if you don’t change the plays, the defense stops you. And he keeps running the same plays.”

Said one fellow agent, “Some of his guys are going to be [in trouble] because there are only so many hours in a day.”

Amid the skepticism, history shows that Boras is likely to negotiate a forehead-slapping deal that no one envisioned. Let’s reflect upon last winter, when the Yankees signed reliever Rafael Soriano to a three-year, $35 million contract (with opt-out clauses) on Jan. 18.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove11/story/_/id/7427396/scott-boras-unemployed-free-agents

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

Also
Boras clients Johnny Damon, Pudge Rodriguez, Jason Varitek and Magglio Ordonez are still out there. So are Rick Ankiel, Alex Cora, Kevin Millwood, Mike Gonzalez, Ryan Spilborghs and Xavier Nady. And there’s a smidge of a chance J.D. Drew will play in 2012, although he appears to be leaning toward retirement.

Any interest?

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

None.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Football metaphors for baseball amuse me.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, spoiler alert:

This is not the winter he’s waited too long.

by GiantPain on Jan 5, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

In today's paper:
Can Giants WR Victor Cruz Hit Another Blast In Playoffs?

Batter up, Victor Cruz!

There may come a key point during Sunday’s wild-card game against Atlanta when Cruz will hit another one of his signature, momentum-swinging home runs – or at least the Giants hope so.



Cruz may not wield a bat, but the Giants receiver has used his surehands and churning legs to generate the NFL equivalent of five grand slams this season: His five touchdown catches of 65 yards or more tied an NFL record. (The Giants are 3-2 in those five games.)

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 5, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

So, Prince Fielder is still available

We wouldn’t even have to trade for him…Rosterbate. You know you want to.

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

Me neither

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Would love Fielder

Pagan CF
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Fielder 1B
Posey C
Belt LF
Cabrera RF
Crawford SS

by GiantPain on Jan 5, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see Affeldt or Lopez in there. When do they get to play?

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

We would have to feed them to Fielder

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

But he’s a vegetarian.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Affeldt translates loosely in Platt Deutsch to open plains or country… so I think he would be acceptable to a vegetarian diet.

totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.

Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.

by Bret1110 on Jan 5, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You put Belt there by accident.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

We didn't have enough money for Jeff Keppinger..

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

My post had two purposes...

One was to point out that, hey, Prince Fielder hasn’t signed with anyone yet.

The other was to sarchastically allude to the false pretense that the Giants would even entertain the thought for a nanosecond.

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I realize

My post was a bitter post in general not because I believed you seriously thought we could sign Prince Fielder.

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

So I chasm'd?

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

OT we just got invited

to go watch football on Saturday night. Who’s playing?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

Bengals-Texans in the afternoon
Lions-Saints at night
and maybe some bowl game?

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I watch football only occasionally these days. I just find it so annoying.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It's very ironic

but LSU has put together one of the most impressive resumes I can remember over the course of one season and I couldn’t give a crap about the BCSNC game. Maybe it’s because they have exactly zero ofrensive stars, maybe it’s because Alabama only has one player of note on offense. Maybe it’s because people are just pissed off about the BCS and it’s silliness has grown stale.

I cared about exactly two bowl games this year and they were both great, entertaining games and they were played on the same day.

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

beef o’brady and Kraft fight hunger?

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You got it.

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s because the networks have been soiling themselves about this game since the moment the clock ran out on the first game.

Over the SEC, over the BCS, over both schools, and over games that end 9-6.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know that its any different that past BCS NCGs. Last year’s game had a lot of hype. SC/Texas had a ton of hype. But those had intersting and dynamic mathcups. This will be like watching two turtles fight.

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

When it’s the same shit year after year, my tolerance for it wears down.

Going back in years… Auburn, Alabama, Florida, LSU, Florida, Texas, USC, LSU. And the USC championship was vacated. Over. It.

If I want to watch a slow, boring, overhyped sporting event, I’ll just wait for one of the 12 nationally televised Yankees/Red Sox tilts next year.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. There was never any doubt how this would go down.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not watching that shit. I watched the entirety of a game between LSU and Alabama already and I immediately regretted it.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately,

if LSU wins, I will begrudgingly accept them as one of the best teams of the past 15 years, maybe the best.

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

And if Alabama wins, LOL to the “Regular season is of paramount importance in college football!” crowd.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Lions vs. Saints I believe

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That's either going to be a really good game

or the Lions are going to get completely buried.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The Saints are the give up the second-most pass yards in the league (behind the Pats, lol), so I could see Stafford and Megatron going off. That is, if Burleson can keep his damn mouth shut this time around.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see it. The Saints seem potent right now. I would not want to play them especially at home.

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think the Saints will win. I just think the Lions could give them a run for their money.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

When you score like the Saints, though, your opponents have no choice but to try to pass for a lot of yards. Which isn’t to say they aren’t bad at it still, just that they probably look a bit worse than they are.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t get it.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

What are you trying to say?

Seriously, though, who didn’t see that coming? A lot of time, when people are bitching about the Giants org, I just want to say, “child, please. You should try being a Kings fan.” So dysfunctional. It’s sad, too, because it was a good franchise not too long ago.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I was pretty “meh” about Adelman back in the day. Now I wish we had a coach anywhere near his level.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL!!!!!

Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker

One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010

by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

/Crocodile Dundee voice

That’s not ay joke. This is a joke.
(from Deadspin)

Seeking a coach more relatable to young Cousins, the Kings have scheduled an interview with Jerry Lee Lewis.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 5, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh my gentle Jesus. If only GP were a couple of decades younger and lived in the East Bay. He'd be perfect for this:

http://baseballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=41273

The Oakland Athletics are currently seeking a Full-Time Scouting Assistant. This position reports to the Director of Scouting and will assist in the day to day operation of the amateur scouting department as well as providing additional support to the Professional and International departments. This position requires strong organizational and people skills.

Duties and responsibilities include, but are not limited to the following:

• Assist the Director of Scouting in all necessary capacities.
• Assist in scouting department administration in providing support to amateur, professional and international scouting staffs.
• Administer all Rule 4 draft preparation for pre draft staff meetings, medical program and draft itself.
• Maintain database of amateur player statistics leading up to annual Rule 4 draft, including NCAA (DI-III), NAIA, Junior College, and High School stats (where available). Write programming code to develop detailed splits (such as hitter-pitcher matchups between top draft prospects) from play-by-play data purchased from CollegeSplits.com. Help create and refine translations for various summer wood-bat leagues.
• Work with Baseball Operations/Player Development departments to assist with first year player signings and reporting logistics.
• Manage and troubleshoot internal scouting program. Work with staff to resolve basic issues relating to its use.
• Provide support to scouting staff for various 3rd party providers as well as serve as main point of contact for such providers within office.
• Gain mastery of rules relating to procurement of amateur talent through the draft and international markets.
• Contribute to creation and maintenance of statistical translation and projection systems, incorporating data from minor leagues, independent leagues, and international leagues (e.g., Mexico and Japan).
• Assist in the creation of and maintenance of departmental budgets.
• Work alongside IT department to address basic technical support for scouting staff as needed as well as coordinate repair and maintenance of all scouting department equipment.
• Support the International Scouting department with all administrative issues, including, but not limited to, visa procurement, contracts, and travel arrangements.
• Assist Baseball Operations department as otherwise necessary through the creation of original and relevant research and analysis.


Qualifications/Minimum Requirements:


• Bachelor’s Degree
• Passion for baseball scouting, strong intellectual curiosity, and ability to work within team framework highly desired.
• Analytical and programming background a plus.
• Ability to communicate effectively with variety of personalities and backgrounds.
• Candidate must be available to work non-traditional hours (various nights, weekends, holidays)

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

LOL a couple decades younger

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s from the East Bay, isn’t he? If he were a couple of decades younger, I doubt he would be able to hold down a job.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I may have to apply for this…

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Just out of curiosity,

What do you think something like this pays?

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I have absolutely no idea, as someone who only works in the minor leagues.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d guess around 29-30 grand, though, if you put a gun to my head

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yah I was gonna say like 40-45

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Theo Epstein got paid 30 grand as the director of baseball ops for the Padres, straight out of law school.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I was kind of thinking it would be something like that. I mean, it’s almost an internship.

I wish I were independently wealthy. I would apply for it. I probably wouldn’t get it anyway.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

How many years ago was that?

And if he was making 30k he was not the director of baseball ops.

Do you think Keith Law would leave his job at ESPN now to take a job that pays him 30k. Director of Scouting is on the same tier as Director of Baseball Ops.

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

He might if he feels his actual MLB resume is thin.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I think if you asked for that, they’d trade you to the Diamondbacks for a DBacks intern

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s my guess, too. I can’t envision this going above 30/32K.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

30-35 wouldn’t surprise me.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure I could work in a job where my entire annual salary was equal to what one of my co-workers was paid for walking up to a plastic dish and wildly swinging a piece of wood at a ball (once).

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

And a lot of those duties are "gopher" type duties.

The only thing that would save you would be knowing you had your foot in the door.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

So you don’t know everything about baseball jobs? I am disappoint.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

kdl just wants to get paid for how she spends her off hours – kissing up to pretty jocks. (Not that there’s anything wrong with this.)

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I know that y’all are just having fun, but there’s more to my fandom than that.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Like Nate’s abs!
/ducks

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Mine, too, but we women are always accused of it. (and it would totally be a perk.)

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem is that as soon as you admit to thinking a player is attractive, it’s like you give up any right to be taken seriously.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, I get this all the time about Crawford. And I don’t even find him particularly attractive. (Culberson & Burriss are prettier MI, IMO.)

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

There are a number of reasons I would rather look at Brandon Crawford than Miguel Tejada.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, I like to look. Chris Heston makes me drool, for reals (and I bet most of you don’t even know who that is!)

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Going out on a limb and saying ‘no relation to Charles.’

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Charlton?

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Er, right.

Brain no workee.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I never asked him if they were related, but I somehow doubt it.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I take you seriously and i am fully comfortable admitting that many baseball players are attractive. My wife thinks hockey players are the most attractive though.

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I should have modified my statement — I don’t think every guy thinks that.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Me, neither.

And hockey players ARE more attractive, in general. The ones with teeth, that is.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

And without mullets.

There are lots of hot — and straight!! — figure skaters.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Tennis players are the best, tho.

Rafa & Roger all by themselves trump most other sports.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Having considered it, though, I think I actually prefer baseball players to all of them.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s something about a baseball uniform.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

God, I miss Torres.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

My friend has a picture of herself with him, and he’s wearing a white wife beater. It’s amazing.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

/vapors

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

As always, it all depends. Taken as a group, baseball players have the more physical variety, so there’s someone to love for anyone’s taste.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

KDL, Esq.
SF Giants Legal Department
AT&T Park

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG, I would die.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be so cool. Would you hire me to be your paralegal?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course! City Girl, do you want a job, too?

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG, the damage we could do.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be so many kinds of awesome.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

What am I, chopped liver?

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re going to be working for our cross-bay rivals!

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Not if I don’t have to!

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"

by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Agent Can of Corn!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I lol'd

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

First job in baseball?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I want this job.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, see

Only problem is the whole programming skills thing. I ain’t got that.

by GiantPain on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I can do really basic HTML! I’m sure that’s not what they have in mind.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t let that stop you from applying. This is their dream applicant. You bring things to the table they don’t yet know they need.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It says it’s a “plus.” You could probably get around it.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Maintain database of amateur player statistics leading up to annual Rule 4 draft, including NCAA (DI-III), NAIA, Junior College, and High School stats (where available). Write programming code to develop detailed splits (such as hitter-pitcher matchups between top draft prospects) from play-by-play data purchased from CollegeSplits.com. Help create and refine translations for various summer wood-bat leagues.

That’s outside my skillset.

Plus I can’t leave until the elections over!

by GiantPain on Jan 5, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

If it’s only a “plus”, they might have folks who can teach you.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll bet I could figure that out.

I wonder if they’ll look at a “non-traditional” (i.e., 40-something white lady) candidate. . .

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

They should!

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ll probably hire some guy who played baseball in college or something, though.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

This has actually happened to me before, with an internship with the Reds. The hiring guy even admitted to it.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a thing. They like guys who are in the “club.”

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

You got passed over for being a 40-something white lady?

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 5, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

In GP’s case, his political polling background might make him stand out enough from the rest of the field to have a shot of beating a former college player. MAYBE. I mean, he’d still have to nail the interview and avoid discussing Jose Reyes.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

One day...

One day…

I aim to be the first former Senator to ever become GM of a baseball team.

by GiantPain on Jan 5, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Boras says the sticking point was the GM’s insistence on being called The Senator.

“With the ‘the’. ‘The Senator’.”

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on the organization but I bet the A's wouldn't do that

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope your husband makes the lion share of the household’s money.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I can always sell a kid.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Excel crash course! Access crash course!

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here. Damn having people to do that kind of work for me so I never had to learn how to do it for myself!

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 5, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I use tableau software for visualization/analysis.

I can write some code in VBA for it, but managing that kind amount of data with disparate sources is a different animal.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

You probably wouldn’t have to design and implement the database. I’m sure they just don’t want to have stand over your shoulder and show you how to do simple things like data entry.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Write programming code to develop detailed splits (such as hitter-pitcher matchups between top draft prospects) from play-by-play data purchased from CollegeSplits.com. Help create and refine translations for various summer wood-bat leagues.

Sounds like there is going to be a bit of data mining involved.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 5, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

couldn’t you just google that stuff?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

and considering how smart people here on this blog and how quickly people can come up with stats, couldn’t just one of us get the job and if there’s anything we can’t find, just post here and see what comes up? We’ll be like Agent Ned except we’ll trade all of the A’s prospects to the Giants for Zito.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh please. Like you couldn’t figure it out on the plane ride home.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I have nothing but the most basic comprehension of that stuff, but my dad used to do it for fun.

It’s too bad they require a Bachelor’s.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Now you know what you have to study in college.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

But it’s so boring!

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, you think you’re going to find a job that isn’t boring?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s young and impressionable.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s why I want to at least do something interesting before then.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

"Hey GP, we need you to transcribe these scouting reports from the PAC-10 tournament"

/ignores and writes four pages on Reyes

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by Goofus on Jan 5, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

"Why didn't you complete the task?"

“Because you’re asking me to look at scouting reports from a tournament for a conference that doesn’t even exist. I suspect the scouts who labeled them Pac-10 would be just as clueless when it came to their player evaluations. (Beat) Here’s a detailed report on Jose Reyes’ thighs I think you might find interesting. Correction: it is imperative you read it post haste.”

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, he would do well to ignore them because it’s now unfortunately the Pac-12.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

For some reason, I thought it didn’t matter where you lived. My husband’s friend is a scout for the Mets and he lives in the east bay. I told him he’s not allowed in our house for taking away Torres.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

This looks like an in-house admin/runner/trainee kind of thing, tho.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

And I'd apply

But then I’d have to pay for my own soda.

by GiantPain on Jan 5, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You could call yourself AthleticPain.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

or AthleticSupporterPain

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

This comment made me think of Billy Beane.

Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all

by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

BILLY BEANE'S PENIS

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I use SPSS, STATA, all the time… but somehow I don’t think I have a shot here, with everyone else applying too.

Irrational Conor Gillaspie fanboy.

by Electric on Jan 5, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I bought Stata 12 recently,

but haven’t installed it yet.

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Jan 5, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I still have STATA 10 from grad school.

Irrational Conor Gillaspie fanboy.

by Electric on Jan 5, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I have Stata 9 from grad school. I like it just fine, but I had money to burn so I bought version 12.

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Jan 5, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I fulfill the first qualification! Maybe I should apply.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Translated: expect to work 80-100 hours a week and like it
• Candidate must be available to work non-traditional hours (various nights, weekends, holidays)

by capn on Jan 5, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don’t want to be played by Jonah Hill in Moneyball II.

I’d take that comment on my weight personally.

Irrational Conor Gillaspie fanboy.

by Electric on Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude is svelte now.

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Application is SENT

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

I hate when I can tell just from the paperwork that an appeal is coming back.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know if we can use it

but new awesome .gif involving Tim Howard

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/tim-howard-didn-t-celebrate-100-yard-goal-062558211.html

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

When is this from?! Doesnt matter—it’s awesome.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

a couple of days ago.

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

soccer is so cute

In this post-2010 reality, I occupy a resurrection body.

by MrUnderhill on Jan 5, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

WOW

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a little windy.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't tell if the striker touched it

Is that a G score or assist? Either way, that is amazing.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

No

it’s a goal for Howard.

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont think he touches it. The keeper does need to be out in case he traps it clean, but not really that far.

Gotta love the Yanks abroad!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Hooray!

The one time US style soccer works.

Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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by marcello on Jan 5, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey! Dempsey has been quite successful in the EPL, along with Howard, Donovan, Holden and a few others. And Brek Shea has been training with Arsenal!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Grant just posted the scouting job listing at Baseball Nation. PREPARE FOR MORE APPLICATIONS.

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by scout6 on Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

SO BAD I CAN TASTE IT

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I have no chance.

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by Soulbrother16 on Jan 5, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m still holding out hope, but I know that my lack of actual experience in scouting doesn’t help, and my awkwardness can travel via the written word.

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by Electric on Jan 5, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh well.

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by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

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by scout6 on Jan 5, 2012 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

That should be interesting.

Am I in the minority by thinking that they should all be eligible/considered, even if they tested positive for steroids?

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Among thinking people? No.

Among those who wish to present a front of “being honorable”, yes.

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by bigboneded on Jan 5, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

/ looks around for Bob Costas

I really hate typing that. I like Bob, but he has got to get a shorter pony in regard to this issue.

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by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to make a joke about Costas already being short, but apparently he’s my height. So now that’s out the window.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

People who think otherwise don’t deserve baseball.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

And I feel like the Pete Rose situation would quickly come into this discussion, but that's totally different.

Mainly because he was banned from baseball. Some guys are getting suspensions, which happens to players all the time. Do we ban players from the Hall who’ve been suspended for one reason or another?

I will admit that, say, if Miguel Cabrera had been suspended because his DUI led to someone’s death, I’d probably say he should not be in the Hall of Fame no matter what his numbers, but the use of performance enhancing drugs, which, yes, is illegal, has a punishment by MLB. I see no need to pile on.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Pete Rose bet on games in which he was an active participant. He bet differently on different games. So some games were more important to him. So some games in which he participated he was more willing to lose.
Nobody took PEDs to increase their willingness or ability to lose.

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t even need that much information to consider. He was banned from Baseball. If I was a voter, until that changes, there’s no reason to even think about him.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

true.

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Considering there’s a big, huge sign in the clubhouse saying “Gambling on Baseball Will Get You Kicked Out of the Sport” doing so is that much more damaging. I also think if he wasn’t still an unrepentant dick, he’d probably be close to getting in but he’s definitely not.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree in theory

But Ty Cobb was a historic a hole. Things like being racist, beating crippled fan in the stands, were merely frowned upon in his time, but would be outrageous today.

It is a fine line to walk, but I think the best baseball stories\characters\players should be represented, so in 100 years from now people can look back at what baseball was like and learn about the greats. Rose will probably get in after he dies, unless something strange happens for that.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Rose will probably get in after he dies

This is the likely outcome. His performance on the field needs to be included in the hall. Whatever you may think of Pete Rose as a man, he was a hell of a baseball player.

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by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

And his accomplishments are in the Hall, in the same sense as Maris’s 1961 is in without him having a plaque. They’re not wiping him out of history like a Stalinist photoshopper, they’re just not inducting him.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 5, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Just for the hell of it- while Bonds and Clemens should be absolute no-brainers, would Sosa and/or McGwire have been as good without them? McGwire had a couple of good seasons before hand, but then got injured and didn’t do much. Sosa just came out of nowhere.

Again, I’m just seeing what the concensus is because I lean towards sending ’em all in.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Counterpoint

Jose Bautista.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s where the discussion gets REALLY interesting. Don’t you start to scrutinize the counting stats EVEN MORE now that you know the latest crops of candidates will have amassed them in an “enhanced” environment? I think I’d have to say that, like the dollar, the x-number of HRs or hits, etc. has been devalued and we should adjust our thinking and evaluations accordingly.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

True.

Looking at Sosa’s 1997, LOL!

36 HR, 89 R, 119 RBI, 22 SB, .329 wOBA, 92wRC+, 17 FLD, 2.8 WAR

I wonder how much Bonds personally deflated other LF’s contextual statistics.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL.

worth a double.

I wish it were as I wrote it originally.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

.300 OBP is pretty bad and OBP is a very important component of a player’s offensive value according to wOBA, wRC+ and WAR, iirc.

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by igjarjuk on Jan 5, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

fixed
.300 OBP is pretty bad and OBP is a very important component of a player’s offensive value according to wOBA, wRC+ and WAR, iirc.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sosa was less out of nowhere than I thought

when I looked at his Fangraphs page the other day. You don’t get to 600 HR by having 3 60 HR seasons and not much else. He had multiple 30 HR seasons before he chased Maris with McGuire. From 93-97 he hit 170 HR and two of those seasons were strike shortened.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

This should have been done for decades

with PA, but never really was.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

McG

The Bash Brothers era had whispers of steroids all over it. He played 3 full years after 1993, but 11 years over 4 fWAR.

I like McG over Bagwell or Palmero, he was the iconic “slugger” of the era.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Whispers?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I was a kid

I heard about roids with McG and Canseco multiple times. Have no idea how true it was for the time.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean, it was obvious to anyone who watched the ’89 series.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

What made it obvious?

Did they forget to remove the needles before stepping out to the ondeck circle? I don’t remember any needles hanging from hind or other quarters

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking at McGwire and Canseco, and then comparing what I saw to the people I knew who were juicing.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I have always been against this style of,

that-dude-looks-huge-so-he-must-be-on-roids analysis. Maybe I am just bounb by the many arguments I made against it with others while that very guilt by eye-test methodology was being used to convict Bonds in the court of public opinion.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 5, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Bonds definitely did ‘roids*. Pretending he didn’t is just sticking your fingers in your ears and saying ‘LALALALALALALALA’.
This does not mean I think he should be singled out for vilification, nor does it mean I think that his perjury trial was particularly justified. But he definitely did them. Greg Anderson and Victor Conte were in that business, without question (in my mind, anyway).
While I don’t think withholding ‘first ballot HOFer’ status is totally unreasonable, I do think getting all worked up and excluding people from HOF consideration over the issue is. I do admit that I don’t have evidence that would prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, but neither am I a dumbass (for the most part). If you think it wasn’t a big deal, so be it, but pretending he (and the Bash Bros before him) were totally innocent of seeking pharmaceutical help is kind of silly, in my opinion.

*note: this is shorthand for any number of substances that may or may not be actual anabolic steroids

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s pretty clear that he used PEDs, although I for one don’t care.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The crazy part is that he probably still would’ve been a slam dunk HOFer even before he started doing them.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

There were rumors of McGwire and Canseco juicing way back in the late ’80’s. Thomas Boswell wrote his famous column about it (the one everybody ignored). And if you read Canseco’s book— which has been proven fairly accurate so far— he and McGwire were basically injecting each other in the ass before every game to bash away.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought the consensus seemed to be that Bonds started doing PEDs in the late 90s?

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much right after Sosa and McGwire broke the HR record because he was pissed that those guys were juicing and being celebrated while he was straight and passed some incredible record (I think it was 500 HRs and 500 SB) and nobody cared. Can’t beat ’em, join em

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

By the end of the 1998 season, I think it’s safe to say he would’ve been a slam dunk HOF’er.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He had 82 WAR after 96.

It’s only ten years but, I think he would probably get in considering the MVPs.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 6, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Even if you pretend he would have been a replacement level player after starting steroid use, he still would be a slam dunk HoFer.

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

but he was a meanie.

That’s gonna count against him.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 6, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Bonds has the stats to support two separate HoF campaigns.

86-96 and 97-2007 more than 80 WAR in each half of his career.

Kirby Pucket put up 49 in his 11 HoF seasons.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 6, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude.

I never suggested he didn’t or even that I believe he didn’t. I just think guilt by eye test is foolish. There is a lot of other evidence that is far more convincing than, “Dude, that guy looks huge. He’s on roids,” especially in the Bonds case.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 6, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know that the biggest problem with “he looks so huge so he must be on roids” is that it might be wrong, but more that it’s clearly exclusionary. You probably can tell if a lot of big dudes are enhanced by how and what kind of big they are, but it’s a kind of thinking that makes you ignore the rest of the group. It’s like calling everything that looks like it might be a square a rectangle, but then also failing to identify any rectangles that don’t look like they might be squares.

That’s a bad analogy, but it was kind of fun to write.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

But

we all know that Bagwell did PEDs

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of those players looked like they were about to pop out of their jerseys, like Bobby Estella or McGwire. And others, like Santiago, you’d never know other than really weird and random career years after they supposedly peaked

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve said it before, but let the HoF tell the story of baseball’s greats—warts and all.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The idealist in me (yes, sometimes I’m not so cynical) thinks it would be nice if you could distinguish between those who would have still had HoF careers without the juice and those who wouldn’t have. But I don’t think it’s possible.

Plus, all those juiced hitters were facing juiced pitchers (who I think may have obtained the greater advantage from PEDs, which would have provided better recovery times between outings and provided more endurance deep into the season). So there’s something to be said for that.

I dunno.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

This line should be very long.

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by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

What?
Prince Fielder is still getting all of the free-agent buzz right now, but here are five players whom you probably haven’t thought of for a couple of months.
Sergio Romo just had a dominant season with a fastball that doesn’t go much over 90, and he threw his slider over 50% of the time. There could be a similar niche for a slider like Lidge’s, and he could ease back into the high-leverage situations as the season goes on.

I’m sure I am being chasmed but what?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/1/5/2685280/free-agents-mlb-rumors

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s saying that Brad Lidge is like Sergio Romo.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh

the whole red coloring thing threw me off.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate the auto-linker

I disable it here most of the time, but I think it’s way distracting. Emily Dickenson didn’t hyperlink her poetry.

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

/Iron maiden

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

dude…..

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 5, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

“I am an inebriate of air!”

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Slightly OT: One of their best sketches (perhaps one of best sketches ever)


That Mitchell and Webb Look: The Inebriati

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard a Fly buzz – when I died –
The Stillness in the Room
Was like the Stillness in the Air –
Between the Heaves of Storm –

The Eyes around – had wrung them dry –
And Breaths were gathering firm
For that last Onset – when the King
Be witnessed – in the Room –

I willed my Keepsakes – Signed away
What portion of me be
Assignable – and then it was
There interposed a Fly –

With Blue – uncertain – stumbling Buzz –
Between the light – and me –
And then the Windows failed – and then
I could not see to see –

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish certain textbooks were written like this.

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by Soulbrother16 on Jan 5, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

If he thinks I don’t think about Romo for months at a time, he doesn’t know me very well.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm doing it

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

Done

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, I give up then
well, not really
but you will wi

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by Electric on Jan 5, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re the man now, dog.

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by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re the dog now, man.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Watching Sharks highlights from last night

It’s probably not a good idea to have three guys defending one guy.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

Hey gays!

what’s new?

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

Nuttin’.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

fair enough. i’ll check back in this time next year, unless something changes

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

K

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going through a box of old papers and found some drawings I did in kindergarten or first grade of anthropomorphic marine animals playing baseball, mainly featuring the San Francisco Sharks. I’ll try and scan some of this.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

OMG, that sounds amazing.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I am sure that even then, you were a much better artist than I will ever be..

/ fails at drawing stickmen

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by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

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by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 5, 2012 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Cabrera should be good

With those regrets, except for #3. I actually think Cabrera is the best addition the Giants have made this winter (though it isn’t a very big pool of competition). Would have rather had Carlos Quentin in terms of outfielders who got traded this winter.

If Belt’s ready and hitting, he’ll play. They’ll move Pagan to right and Melky over to Center, which is what I think Boch is thinking anyway, at least periodically to get Belt some ab’s.

Even that said, I still think Sabean should be doing everything in his power to re-sign Cody Ross…. If we go into spring training with Justin Christian as the Giants 4th OF, there are going to be problems folks!

Anyone heard anything about that Yeonis Cespedes guy? Seems like there was all this hype coming into the offseason, now not a peep? What’s the deal. I’d take him in RF in a second after watching that video.

by trecole696 on Jan 5, 2012 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

If they do this...
They’ll move Pagan to right and Melky over to Center, which is what I think Boch is thinking anyway, at least periodically to get Belt some ab’s.

I’ll be pizzed. Melky should go to RF in that scenario

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by Goofus on Jan 5, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll be pizzed. Melky should go to the bench in that scenario

Is that what you meant to say ?

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by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Melky can’t go to the bench at any point this season. It will make the Sanchez trade look bad.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry. Fixed.

Melky can’t won’t go to the bench at any point this season. It will make the Sanchez trade look bad.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus, how will he rack up those counting stats if he doesn’t get 700 PAs again?

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Said it before, and I'll say it again.

Melky in CF will be an unmitigated disaster. Pagan’s gotta play well enough to keep Cabrera on a corner.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

actually think Cabrera is the best addition the Giants have made this winter (though it isn’t a very big pool of competition).

Other than Pagan, have they even acquired anyone who wasn’t on the roster last year?

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

no

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

So then Cabrera was also the second worst pickup of the season.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Stop being a patsy for front office!

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah this reminds me of good old days

When Rowand used to play CF and Torres used to play RF when both started

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

The best thing about 12 will be NOT watching Rowand lead off. We almost had another year of that.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Cabrera might play a little in centre, but only to spell Pagan (or if he’s injured), and it will be bad news for us when he does. There’s no way Pagan is playing in right, ever, he’s lightyears better at CF than Melky.

Also, some combo of Huff/Belt is our fourth outfielder. Burriss is in the mix too, apparently, god help us. Christian is our fifth outfielder. It would be nice in some ways to have Cody back, but it’s likely that the result would mainly be to take at bats away from Belt.

by DiggingForFire on Jan 6, 2012 2:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Have a firm wide meeting at 4.

have no idea what it is about.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Firm and wide, eh?

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Larry Baer bought your firm!

Good news!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Wolfe owns my firm

Soda and chip machines in the break room.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Those stuffy old CEOs won’t know what hit them!

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I have seen this movie.

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by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

And your brain didn't leak out your ears?

Watching the Giants play baseball is like buying tickets 162 times a year to have Mike Tyson pretend your testicles are a speed bag.

by danieljgrant on Jan 5, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw it in a theater! For money!

by chilibean_3 on Jan 5, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

They paid you money?

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by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You have one-upped me, sir.

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by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw The Hot Chick in theaters. On a date.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Amazingly, the relationship endured.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

My first date with my now wife: Alien Resurrection

...Dr. Vader will see you now.

by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I can never seem to watch more than a handful of minutes of that. It’s shockingly bad.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

we both quote the line “you are a beautiful, beautiful, butterfly” more than we probably should

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

My first (movie) date with my now wife: Andy Warhol’s Frankenstein at Hayward State.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw Rush Hour 2 in theaters. TWICE.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Jan 5, 2012 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Conan O’Brien: What’s the name of the movie?

Courtney Thorne-Smith: It’s called “Chairman of the Board.”

Norm Macdonald: Is that spelled B-O-R-E-D?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL0WayC7jW0

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that, too. “Box office poison!”

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by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that live ...

… and thought the punchline before Norm said it. So I’m pretty cool. Ayup.

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 5, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

i was cool once.

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why you run the place.

My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Jan 5, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You and Norm may have subliminally been influenced by Iggy Pop.

Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.

by tobias on Jan 6, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Who wasn’t?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 6, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, that’s like hypnotizing chickens.

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by Lunkus on Jan 6, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

a firm wide meeting

What does J-Lo gotta do with it?

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind meeting J-Lo

but the car she drives was not that good.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

She wasn’t really driving it anyway.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

and not-driving it in not-New York

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

We are having one right now on new judicial council forms.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems like mostly

changes to criminal/DV stuff.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Lots of changes to civil harrassment, too. Also, they finally filled the gap between limited civil and small claims.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 6, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Richie was an abomination to right thinking GIants fans.

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

How many good hitting SS exist at any one time? Usually, it’s no more than 5.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

and we should have one of them.

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by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

could be worse

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

.

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Is he making a sad tiger face?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

from his grave; he died at age 42.

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

What were they thinking?

And then he was just given up to the Seattle Pilots

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by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch..That is bad.

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by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Not as bad as this guy

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/scharge01.shtml

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

TBF

good hitting shortstop was pretty much an oxymoron until ARod/Nomar/Jeter came along.

Robin Yount, Ernie Banks and Ozzie Smith were only “good hitting” SS I could think of pre-AROD/Nomar/Jeter era.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

and

Ripkin

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

and

Larkin and Wagner.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

So pretty much all HOFers, save save Nomar.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Save him!

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Save me, save me! Hurt them, hurt them!

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, he saved others

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by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

there were a couple of others I found after looking them up on Fangraph but most of the SS listed have defensive value

Ozzie Smith had a career slash of .262/.337/.328

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It certainly isn’t a huge number, but there is a decent handful, historically. Well, depending on your definition of “good hitting” at least. Arky Vaughn, Lou Boudreau, Joe Cronin, and Vern Stephens would be just a few. Vern Stephens had an amazing 1949 season, by any era’s standards. .290/.391/.539 for a 137 OPS+ with 39 HRs.

Luke Appling. Jim Fregosi. Joe Sewell. Toby Harrah was an exceptional bat for short, but got moved to third after a few seasons. Part of the problem with looking them up is a lot of guys may have been exceptional before 30, but had their career rates suffer in their later seasons.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Jan 5, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but we are talking about through the entire history of baseball and more of a career thing than an individual year.

I mean Aurila had a .324/.369/.572 for a 146 OPS+ in 2001.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Where’s your bar set for career length and “good hitting shortstop”? Over their careers Garciaparra only outstrips Vern Stephens by 5 points of OPS+.Luke Appling has a better career OPS+ than RIpken.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Jan 5, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not saying there hasn’t been good hitting shortstops in history. Just that for most of baseball, shortstops have been relatively light hitters that played well defensively (ditto for 2Bs). The entry Nomar/Jeter/ARod change the expectations as to the position’s offensive production.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that and the expansion of offensive stats. I wonder how things will change when reliable stats are developed for defense.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder….
Where is the dividing line on shortstop offensive expectations?
I grew up watching baseball in the 70’s – shortstops were supposed to be good fielders.

Did the steroid era influence people’s perceptions about what a shortstop should be doing offensively?

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I remember Mark Belanger being considered the prototype of what makes a good SS

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Did the steroid era influence people’s perceptions about what a shortstop should be doing offensively?

The steroid era influenced the average fans perceptions of how a baseball player should hit.

It’s a shame really. Many people go to a game with the expectation that home runs are what the game is about. I had to explain to at least fifty people why Cody Ransom’s 3A Season was not really a big deal, based on age for his level. The Wily Mo Pena hoopla was even worse. I was much more excited by the .354/.430/.554 Colin Cowgill put up in his 456 AB’s . Dude was very fun to watch.

The era obviously did not influence me. I’m still a big fan of GG defense at short.

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by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

but that’s cuz you are LoLd like me.
What if you just started watching baseball in ’88 or something… ya know?

Of course we also watched a lot of games from the “friendly confines” of places like the Astrodome.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The first professional game I saw was at Jack Murphy Stadium in San Diego. Yes I said Jack Murphy, not Qualcomm. It was in 1969. Growing up in San Diego with no team to root for and Willie Mays made me a Giants fan. I sure as hell was not going to be a Dodger fan.

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by nvsfg on Jan 5, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

First game I saw live was a double-header at RFK stadium.

The Senators played the Yankees; won the first game and lost the second. It was 1961. Catcher Paul Casanova took a called strike three to end the finale.

See: Lawn, how to evacuate.

by mrs. owlcroft on Jan 5, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Those were the new Senators, weren’t they?

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Nicely Done Mrs. O...

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by nvsfg on Jan 6, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

and it was probably a scheduled double header, not some silly make-up game!

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by Merope on Jan 6, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe. As time goes on I’m starting to think they were an anomaly. Who since they arrived has actually turned in a stellar offensive career? The only ones I can find are Carlos Guillen, and Miguel Tejada. Tulowitzski and Ramirez and Reyes are on their way, but they could still derail. There are others putting up individual seasons or stretches of a few good years, but you said this was for whole careers.

Compare this to, say, the state of third base before and after Eddie Mathews.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Jan 5, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

Here’s the link in clickable form
http://twitpic.com/83nzj4

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

With blowout-able pitching arm??

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

BONES!

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

for $200, Alex

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually like that, and the orange shoes. They’re playing the A’s on 5/20.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

My girlfriend didn’t ask me how my day was or care about my fever. The first thing she said last night was “CAN WE GO TO THE GIANTS GAME ON MAY 20TH!? I WANT THE WILSON GNOME!”

by Every6thDay on Jan 6, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

they are cute little things, but I’m guessing they are all of 4 inches tall.

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by Merope on Jan 6, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

she said this

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

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by rotorueter on Jan 6, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

It's cool

But I think i’d rather pay $50 on ebay than deal with the insanity.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 6, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, Hal Lanier was comically awful. And he only took 12 walks in ’68.

I’d be surprised if Crawford cracks .240, but I see him having a little more pop in his bat than the rest of those players.

by Garrelts89 on Jan 5, 2012 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

Crawford has a pretty good BB rate in his career and had a horrible BABIP last year. He has had a career slash line of .266/.331/.403 in the minors so I would think he could be somewhere in the .650 OPS range.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The issue is whether he can count down on the strikeouts. He had a pretty bad K rate in 2009 and 2010 but seems to have been more selective last year both in MLB and the minors.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

He seemed ok at the plate last year except when the ball came off his bat it always proceeded directly and obligingly to a waiting fielder to who then did his job.

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by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

grand slam was awesome though

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 5, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m fond of the Sex Pistols cover of this song

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 4:13 PM PST reply actions  

I NEED YOUR GUIDANCE

I’m a moron, and I somehow found myself in the middle of five different first chapters. Please tell me which book to finish first.

The Magicians
The Path Between the Seas
The Art of Fielding
The Singularity is Near
The Worst Hard Time

Please don’t recommend any other books, especially if they don’t start with “The.”

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 5, 2012 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

Finnegans Wake

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The Finnegan's Wake

A charming tale about Chaz “The Finnegan” Finnegan, who overcomes agoraphobia to win State in the Jet Skiing Championships.

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The Art of Prince Fielder

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I would have gone with

“A heartwarming story of the family of Gregory Finnegan who come together from the four corners of the world to remember his passing in their native Ireland. The journey brings up old pains and new joys as long held grudges are put aside when invading alien forces attack Dublin and the family bands together to protect their own.”

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Jan 5, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I love this line from the Wikipedia article

“Despite these obstacles, readers and commentators have reached a broad consensus about the book’s central cast of characters and, to a lesser degree, its plot.”

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The Magicians

So’s you can compares it to The Prestigeseseses.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa. Just read the description.

Mores likes compares its to’s the’s Harry’s Pottereseseseses.

by Every6thDay on Jan 5, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm reading the sequel to The Magicians right now.

It’s pretty fun. I’m saving The Art of Fielding until it’s closer to baseball season.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The What You Readin? fanShotPost not good enough for you?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't check that crap anymore.

(Didn’t know there was one, I’m embarrassed to say.)

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 5, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

They were better when they were Diaries.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I have the Art of Fielding, heard it was great, but I haven’t started it yet. I can’t read more than one book at a time.

totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.

Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.

by Bret1110 on Jan 5, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

This camp.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I have not read the art of fielding, but i picked it up from interlibrary loan today and plan on reading it every night before i go to bed. not sure if that helps or not

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 5, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Glass half full question

It’s been a depressing off-season so let’s try a hope-as-hell question. Somebody always vastly exceeds expectations (Vogelsong last year, Torres the year before, not sure in ’09, etc.). Who do you think it will be in 2012? My guess is Timmy. I think with a 2nd year of added weight and serious off-season perpetration he reverses his trend the last two years and puts up Cy Young type numbers.

What’s your guess?

by Daver321 on Jan 5, 2012 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

Does Belt count?

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably not, as in we all expect him to be the best ever

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 5, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It's hard for Timmy to "vastly exceed" expectation

since expectations are pretty darn high for him.

I’m going with Pagan. Down year last year but was a 5.5 fWAR and 2.9 oWAR guy in 2010.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I would say expectations are for Timmy are remain the same as last year or continued decline. A bounce back up to Cy Young would be “vastly exceed” at least in my opinion. To each his own though.

by Daver321 on Jan 5, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but I guess it would wouldn’t vastly exceed my expectation in that I would be happy with that development but not surprised. He has that potential.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

CRAWFORD!!!!

/hides in bomb shelter

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love this

just because it would bug GP. Well, and it would be nice for the team.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

/prays for Crawford to crack a .300 wOBA

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Ah, the religious version of hope like hell!

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Would that be excellent?

I have no idea but Bill James is projecting him a .282 wOBA

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

If Crawford hits for a .300 wOBA, he’ll be one of the 5 most valuable SS in the National League.

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by free f.p. #14 on Jan 5, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Any rough estimation of how that breaks down into a slash line?

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that’s your answer below.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess

but Cliff Pennington had a .302 wOBA last year with a .264/.319/.369. That doesn’t seem that outrageous for Crawford to obtain.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It would have put him in the bottom third of shortstops with 400 PA last year. IS THAT SO INSANE???

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean, second or third to last is in the bottom third of shortstops, so I suppose not.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

But the whole point of surprises

is you don’t see them coming. I can (almost) see trying to predict using probabilities based on past performance, but to try to predict who will defy those predictions is taking all the fun out of it.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Pure guessing of who might defy predictions isn’t fun? I guess GP would agree.

by Daver321 on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Needs a poll.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The last time Lincecum perpetrated, he ended up in front of a judge in Seattle.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Zito

In that he’ll be more like the 2010/2009 version

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by j14 on Jan 5, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That would actually be great news.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll jump in the pond...

I’ll say Huff. He was horrible last year, and EVERYONE will be predicting another bad year from him. I’ll put my Monopoly Money on him having a “better than anyone expected” year.

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by danieljgrant on Jan 5, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m hoping that’s true because good Huff answers a lot of the questions surrounding the offense.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Crawford will get injured

Ehire will be promoted and show us all how it’s done (less sexily)

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by Deleuzian on Jan 5, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not a believer in him.

Yet, anyway.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe that Andres Torres is going to have a really good season.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Not trying to be snarky

but why? What indications is there that he will?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

His career.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Because I believe that he’s a good player who will no longer be hounded by the factors that contributed to his hitting woes. And because with his defense, I don’t believe he has to OPS .825 to be a fantastic player.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

He was good defensively last year so that’s a given. The issue is his offensive production. I am not sure that playing in New York is going to alleviate the pressures.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think we really know that “pressure” had anything to do with it in a practical sense, and I don’t see the point in assuming that he can’t use his experiences from 2011 to better “deal with it” (whatever it was) in 2012.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

And again, he needs no return to glory to provide great value. He only needs to demonstrate a modest return to form with the bat and continue to do what he does with the glove. He doesn’t need to do GREAT THINGS in order to fulfill my expectations.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh

okay then I can see that.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

not sure that playing in New York is going to alleviate the pressures.

The Mess won’t have a lot of pressure on them in 2012. They’re on the fast track to last-placeville, and it’s obvious to even the most ardent of fans.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 5, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Bumgarner

One more year of progress will find him in top 5 NL starters

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I could see Pablo surprising and going MVP on us next year

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 5, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok.
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by scout6 on Jan 5, 2012 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

LOL NOT LINCECUM

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

awww nepotism

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by Lunkus on Jan 5, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Will SBN help catch a bad guy?

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

Wow—what a thread.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.
It will be interesting to see if anything comes of it. Maybe the guy was just talking shit, but still, that’s pretty stupid!

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

This was their final conclusion.

To be fair, every sports fanbase has at least a couple of these guys. Even out in Northern California where everyone is supposed to be high as a kite.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that video from October 2010 with the reporter from Dallas who looked like Perd Hapley expressing his surprise that weed was being smoked. That was fun.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

They're smokin' weed!

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Good ole Newy Scruggs

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

He will be the Jose Lopez of our time

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Only if he gets a HR on opening day

And gets hurt for the year on the second day.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Spice rack

I’ve finally begun to unpack my stuff in my apartment. Between moving in right before I left for the DR, being way busy when I got back, and not knowing where any of my stuff is, it’s been an adventure. I got to the box with my spices and sauces and other good cooking stuff and we re-organized everything. My question to you all is, which spices/herbs/other tasty things make up the essential spice rack?

Don’t be afraid to mention the basic (basil) to the extravagant (saffron) to the eclectic (smoked paprika). I’d like to know what everyone has in their spice racks/cabinets to see what I am lacking.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

I cook a lot of indian food so

Cumin, Ginger, Turmeric, Coriander, Garam Masala, Cardamom, Chili Powder.

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by Deleuzian on Jan 5, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

All good things to have. I need cardamom and good chili powder. My BFF has Grandma’s chili powder which is incredible, but they don’t make it anymore. Sad day.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

All good spices! You must be a great cook. I recently bought smoked paprika and saffron for a paella I tried to make. My default spice is lemon pepper. I use it for everything. Also bay leaves and fresh garlic and ginger is a must.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Lemon pepper is so damn good. I made this chickpea curry for my BF the other night and I sauteed some chicken on the side with just a light dusting of lemon pepper and it worked so well with the strong flavors in the curry.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds delicious.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I just like Indian food!

And there’s a lot more of it around in the UK than US. I made the mistake of buying my chili powder from the nearby shop that supplies Indian restaurants. As a consequence, it is almost nuclear hot.

I have little to no experience cooking Mexican/Latin American cuisine competently and what spices are needed for that

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by Deleuzian on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Invariably, my food is filled with cardamoms and so I have to pick them out. Often I’ll forget one and then I’ll bite it by accident. It might be the worst sensation I know.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Cumin is great with mexican food, too

I like to put it in fresh made slasa

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 5, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m on a smoked paprika kick of late.

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by bgunn on Jan 5, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here! I made a pan sauce for my chicken the other night with the smoked paprika and it was so good. Plus we dumped some on top of our split pea soup for New Year’s and it was the best ever.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Cayenne, and vanilla in some form.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Both good things that I need. Are you talking vanilla extract and/or the pods?

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Like I said, in some form. I’d alway keep a bottle of extract on hand, but slicing open pods is fun if you want to be fancy every once in a while.

Also, now that I think about it, garlic powder is also handy. I prefer the real thing, obviously, but it doesn’t keep forever.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Tj’s sells jars of crushed garlic.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The refrigerated stuff? I use fresh whenever I can help it.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

stuff usually goes bad around here before I can get to use it up. Garlic and onions especially

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a sucker for fresh ingredients, especially onions, garlic, and peppers, so I tend to do a pretty good job of rolling through my stock without much waste. Once it goes in the produce bin in the fridge, though, it’s as good as rotted.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s why I like to grow my own, keeps longer on the plant than it does in the frig/on the counter.

Can’t grow stuff here no mo’ between the squirrels and lack of sun… pffffffft…

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh! And mint.

Great for fruit salads and the like.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

My dad grows fresh mint, and we use it all the time. I love it, except that it grows like crazy.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Container plant.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

We grew rosemary, mint, and blackberries at various points around my house growing up. Stuff grew faster than we could use it, especially the blackberries.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

We had wild berries when I grew up, but the deer and birds cleaned them out before we ever could get much fruit.

My dad grows tons of herbs, always has. I love walking outside and just grabbing something and putting it in whatever we’re cooking. He only has a tiny patio now, though, so it’s not as easy anymore.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, deer were a problem with us, too, but we lived on a hillside and had fences and chicken wire, so we did a pretty good job at keeping them out.

Instead, they’d just eat the olives and plums in the front yard and, uh, fertilize the lawn.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

My dad put chicken wire over his herbs, and that managed to keep the deer out of those for the most part. They would eat any flowers we put in the planter on our porch, though. Brats.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn deer used to be connoisseurs of when my roses were just about ready to bloom out a flower.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. I forget what we ended up doing when the deer were eating every flower in sight. We might have put a plant in the planter instead of flowers.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, my mom kept a lot of roses, plus foxgloves, hydrangeas, nasturtiums, and wild strawberries. Also an apple tree.

When I say we used chicken wire? I mean we had a 7 foot fence running along our property line along the hill until it reached the real fences on the side yards.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Use it to chew on every now and then as a way to make frequent use of it and get a quick, natural breath freshener.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Hm, I will consider that.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I enjoy making Mojigaritas with it during warm weather – muddle mint, lime juice and sugar, pour in limonata and tequila, stir, enjoy.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Ooh, I love mojitas and margaritas. That sounds fantastic! I like to use simple syrup in my mojitos. Would that work? Also, what kind of tequila?

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally would work. I used Cazadores reposado.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that a light or dark tequila? I am not a connoisseur at all. I think I have light patron in my pantry.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Tan color? Not clear, certainly. It’s pretty light, I’d say… I’m sure any reasonably decent one would work.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s clear. When I bust out my margarita stuff in the summer, I will get some different tequila.

Random: I make margaritas with tequila, orange liqueur (not triple sec), a little simple syrup (or sugar) and a whole mess of lemon juice. Very tasty. I guess they’re not really margaritas, though.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not a margarita purist, but I do enjoy their work.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I had an aversion to mint for the longest time bc i was paid to tear it out of this neighbor’s yard. for 8 hours. straight. I was young and naive and thought I had to go the whole time without taking any breaks, I probably pulled out 4 hours worth before he came out of the house and said, hey, you can take a break yah know, here is 20 bucks, go buy a sandwich. I hurt my back pulling that mint out and then went and played a summer baseball game. Lower back was never the same.

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 5, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I really want a little herb garden but my apartment is small and crappy and I’m not sure where we’d put it.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been thinking about it, but I’m pretty sure I would kill it immediately. As much as I’m loving this conversation, I don’t cook enough these days to really use it, either.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I have garlic powder on hand too. Sometimes the fresh stuff just doesn’t make the entire dish taste garlicky enough. Both BFVCE and I are garlic fiends. I always triple the amount of garlic in any recipe that calls for it.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m inherently suspicious of any recipe that doesn’t call for it.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Now with three times the garlic!

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hah. Ever been to the festival in Gilroy?

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve had garlic ice cream from one of those roadside shops near Gilroy. It’s actually really good. Tastes like a really garlicky alfredo sauce, but with more emphasis on the creamy and garlic flavors.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I love garlic, too

My college roommate worked at this place http://www.garlic-jos.us/ in Newport.

The food was incredibly garlicy and delicious! I haven’t been back since, but I really should. It was sooo good.

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 5, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Italian herbs, some saffron that I got from TJ some years ago. Paprika, cumin, dried mustard.

A lot of Asian stuff.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Dried mustard is a good one that I overlooked a lot in the past. I made a really good sauce for chicken last week that used dried mustard, bourbon (Maker’s Mark), honey, and a pinch of ginger.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

i rediscovered my favorite hot sauce last night: Pico Pica.

i think i used about a 1/3 bottle on various things. mostly cheese covered things.

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

We have a few hot sauces in my cabinet: Tabasco, Sriracha, Louisiana, and this incredible sazon stuff I got in the DR. Hot sauce is serious business in my house.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite tobasco is the green one. I also keep Sriracha (aka rooster sauce, if you’re form HI), plus sweet chili sauce, California Pepper Plant, and Cholula. I loved Louisiana when i had it in Arkansas, but haven’t looked hard enough to find it locally. Tapatio is nice too.

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Chipotle Tobasco is pretty good.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife loves that one.

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes it is. I just saw an ad for Tabasco Buffalo sauce while I was at the gym today. I want to try it.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a bias towards tapatio, myself, but Sriracha is great stuff.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Tapatio is pretty fantastic

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

My summer job stocks it at every table, three meals a day. It gets kind of ingrained as essential seasoning after a while.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

The best I’ve found is Marie Sharp’s Habanero Hot Sauce. It’s everywhere in Belize. Though I haven’t had to look for it here yet. I brought quite a bit back with me.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I bought some at the Garlic Shoppe in Gilroy. You can also buy it online from them (see this page, por ejemplo: http://www.garlicdude.com/hotsauc8dowt.html). They’ve got a ton of great hot sauces. I’ve bought dozens for my fella, who has never met a hot sauce he didn’t like.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Ikeda’s with locations in Auburn and Davis usually has a good selection of different hot sauces. I think we got “Ass Reaper” hot sauce there once.

http://restaurant-bakery-auburn-ca.com/gourmet-food-produce/

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

This is beyond obvious, but I use cinnamon and nutmeg a ton.

Also, dill, fennel, bay leaves, oregano, thyme, parsley.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I recently realized how important bay leaves are. I made the split pea soup for NYE and I made ropa vieja last night and the bay leaves in both really made the difference.

Is it worth it to get dried parsley?

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I do use dried parsley sometimes, in a pinch, but not a ton.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll add it to the list. I don’t usually use parsley, fresh or dried, but it’s better to have it around if I want or need it.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not even a huge fan of it, dried or fresh, but so many recipes call for parsley.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s like dehydrated onions. I rarely ever use them, but they are a handy little thing to keep on hand for onion emergencies.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Trader Joe’s has frozen garlic cubes, and other spices. I haven’t tried it yet, but I think it’s called Dorot.

by City Girl on Jan 5, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I was looking at those, I think it was the cilantro ones…they had soy in them.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I have onion powder on hand for that very reason. Mostly when I don’t want to bother cutting onions.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I found a jar of freeze dried red onions in the produce section a Lucky a little while ago. I think it’s an improvement on powder and the dehydrated kind.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Try mushing dill seeds on to the top of a hamburger patty before cooking.

It’s amazing. They crunch up when you turn the burger over and the taste is incredible. Dill weed is indispensable for tzatziki.

by mrs. owlcroft on Jan 5, 2012 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Surprisingly, no one has mentioned rosemary yet.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I also need more rosemary. I’d like to grow it myself.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

My rosemary died this winter. I bought it for 99¢ it was 6 inches tall. I had it for 5 years, it grew to over 5 feet tall and it just up and croaked back in November.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I love rosemary, and I have no idea how I managed to leave it out. I made a fritatta for Christmas morning that had oregano, rosemary and thyme. It was great.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mind the flavor, but I hate getting needles of it in my food.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s one of my reservations about using it. The flavor is so good, though.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta chop it up real fine or make an herb bundle so you can remove it before serving.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Herb bundle! I see them do that on Food Network all the time. It intrigues me.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I do it all the time for braising and stocks and such.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Whole Foods has -in those little green boxes of spices – something called Harissa it’s a spicy hot blend that we use on just about everything.

Cinnamon, nutmeg and ginger are also essentials around here.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes harissa is great stuff. I also don’t know why I don’t have nutmeg. I think I just ran out of it and never replaced it. I need to get more than a few things so this thread is helping a lot!

I like to buy herbs and spices from Fresh and Easy too because they’re cheap and good.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

We go through so much cinnamon and vanilla extract I just buy it at Costco.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I use both a ton, too, but because it’s just me I don’t need to buy it at Costco.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That too! My roommate, BF, and I are going to join forces and get a Costco card for the house so we can get vats of stuff I go through.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Olive oil!
Where did I read that olive oil is some huge scam… most of it has slept around and isn’t as pure as it’s label would indicate. Costco’s olive oil was one of the few that was what it said it was.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Oil for sure. Olive, soy, and peanut for deep frying. I cooked with soy oil in the DR and I like it quite a bit.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I talked to a guy who was a rep for… McEvoy, I think it was. And yeah, there is no official standards for what qualifies as virgin or extra virgin. There are a couple independent boards that certify such things, though, especially in California.

http://www.cooc.com/producers_certified.html

Also, if you are looking for a more neutral cooking oil, grape seed oil is great. It burns at a higher temperature than olive oil, and doesn’t carry as much flavor. Great for general cooking needs.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

A book just came out, Extra Virginity, talking about the scams of extra virgin. I haven’t read it yet, just picked it up today though.

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 5, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re getting a Fresh and Easy in Folsom, and I literally didn’t even know what it is. Sounds like I should be excited about it!

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

They are putting one of those in on Watt Ave… where the old Tower Books used to be /sobs

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw. :( They don’t show the Folsom one on their website as being a future store, but the sign is up and everything.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The Folsom Wholefoods would surely have every spice under the sun? That’s if you can fight your way past the yoga-panted moms.

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by Deleuzian on Jan 5, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, but you’ll notice that Barron used the word “cheap.” ;-) Actually, I do better on a lot of things at Whole Foods than at Raleys/Bel Air or Safeway.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Wholefoods is absolutely bonkers expensive. Grocery Outlet is clearly the place to go :P

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by Deleuzian on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I randomly get the best deals on wine at the Grocery Outlet. I’ve gotten some amazingly good stuff there for like $5 or $6, and I usually don’t like anything that is less than $12-$15/bottle. I got an amazing Coppola rose this summer for $4 or something like that. I think it retails around $17.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Grocery Outlet is surprisingly good. I’ve found some good deals there on quality products.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Ooooo – that Coppola rose was good. And I paid probably $14 for it and thought I was getting a good deal. Dammit.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It was so crisp and refreshing in the heat. They were having some extra 20% off sale or something that day only, and I should have bought 10 bottles of it, but I only bought 1. I’m clearly an idiot.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Clearly!

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I am almost exclusively a red wine drinker (I prefer an old vine zin), but my uncle got me started on the rose in summer, and I can’t stop now.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I drink mostly cabernet. But on a warm summer evening, I like pulling out a bottle of rose.

Also, the red lambrusco that TJs is selling for something like $5 a bottle is also nicely refreshing. I typically drink that in the spring, but I did open a bottle at a NYE party and it hit the spot.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Ooh, I should try it. I have a bunch of wine that I got as gifts, but I’ve been on antibiotics since early December (fucking sinus infection that won’t go away), so have not been drinking hardly at all.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

My sister is big on rosé. Grew up in a family of wine snobs, though, so I went rogue and became a beer aficianado instead.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

I would attempt to open a UK version of that chain, but there’s no way I could ever get stuff that cheap over here.

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by Deleuzian on Jan 5, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

We are so lucky in California, as far as the stuff we can get and how cheap it is.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends where on California. My mom grew up in pretty much every town in the central valley, and said that all the good stuf gets shipped to the coasts.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting. It’s entirely possible that I don’t know what the “good stuff” is.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the organic movement has helped matters somewhat. Plus that was like 50 years ago. But it doesn’t surprise me at all to hear that a good portion of the best produce gets shipped to NYC, Boston, etc.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That is weird. They are crazy expensive here, especially the red, yellow and orange ones.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

In the DR, bell peppers were all the same price, around 49 pesos a pound (a little over US$1). As a result, I ate a lot of peppers there.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

That is to say, all colors were the same price. I don’t know why the orange and yellow ones especially are more.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

But why?
It’s not like the ones I eat here are even grown in the UK, so they’re being shipped hundreds of miles by land and sea and it’s still cheaper than Folsom?

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by Deleuzian on Jan 5, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally bizarre.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame Folsom ;)

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by Deleuzian on Jan 5, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

omg Fresh and Easy is amazing. It’s like Trader Joe’s and Whole Foods but much better selection and prices, plus you can get cleaning products and cooking supplies and stuff there too. Their brand of products is fantastic. They have a rewards card where you get points for shopping there and we get coupons in the mail every week, usually $3 off a purchase of $30 or more. I love that place so much. There’s a few in SJ and one that’s right by the Fair Oaks light rail stop, so it’s really easy for me to get there because the downtown SJ light rail stop is so close to me.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh wow, thanks for the info! I am super excited! The new one is about 5 minutes or so from me. I’m looking forward to it opening now!

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It is the truth. You will love it. Get the rewards card right away because you can earn tons of points.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I am all about those reward points. I totally work the system.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

The reward system is pretty cool. I have $20 saved up on it right now that I can use at any time.

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 5, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

You should be. There’s one just a few blocks from me.
Pros:
It’s open until ten, later than my smaller meat and produce places (sometimes I get home late from work).
It’s cheap, and while I don’t agree with everything they do to cut costs and prefer to support the neighborhood, sometimes you need that.
It has a good range of offerings and makes it easy on you (esp. with veggies).

Cons:
Not local.
So much packaging. I hate that.
No staff to help you out.

I go maybe once a month, but it’s super nice to have nearby.

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by waelwulf on Jan 5, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

On Bayshore Blvd?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Clement!

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by waelwulf on Jan 5, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, out in the fogbank… moving from the Richmond to Bernal was a real lesson in microclimatry.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

they’re replacing an Ace hardware with a Fresh and Easy near my house in march. we’re looking forward to that.

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I adore Ace Hardware, though. :(

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

me too, but they couldn’t keep this location afloat.

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite is the one in Walnut Creek. I got my salt and pepper shakers there, as well as my welcome mat. Not exactly hardware, but they have the cutest stuff!

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

that one’s probably owned by the same guy as the one closing in north concord.

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I try whenever possible to buy hardware and housewarey stuff at Emigh’s off of Watt.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Fresh & Easy is awesome! And yea, ALL of their store brand items are the best. Though, I sometimes get upset at their produce. If we need better produce then we go to Sprouts.

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 5, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm getting one a block away

Which will be awesome because I don’t eat meat, and stocking up on the good stuff’s a pain since I don’t have a car.

by Cap M on Jan 5, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh boy, that would be tough.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Fresh & Easy is a pain in the friggin’ neck. They have no baggers so you have to do everything yourself and nobody can figure out how the whole thing works so it takes twice as long to check out. Plus there’s like three people in the store at the time so there’s nobody around you could ask questions.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

and that’s how it’s cheaper.
Pak n Sav !!!

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t like that either— even all the awful minimum wage jobs are getting rid of

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I need to get some harissa. There’s a thing I want to make that needs it.

For nutmeg, I keep a jar on hand, but I also keep a few pods available to grate fresh into stuff using a microplaner. It’s fantastic.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I was hoping Satan would bring me a microplane for Christmas, but he did not.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL Satan.

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWHOIowtzXA

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Satan Clause

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for starting this cool foodie conversation, Baron. So fun!!

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad! I miss our foodie discussions here.

by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Jan 5, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

As part of my NY resolutions, I am eating more healthy so that means more cooking. I am totally inspired now!

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by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Seconded

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

his Tow-Missile was no match for the mistletoe

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Should’ve gone with the lizards.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Waiting for Jponry to post

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

post

why am i posting?

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

If you didn’t post, we would never know what to talk about.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Curious about

what’s in your spice rack

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 5:50 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

go uh…
here
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2012/1/5/2685017/regrets-ive-had-a-few#87708876

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

well my spice rack is also my dad's spice rack

so there’s a pretty huge range

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

it's expensive but

cardamom is so good

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. And a little goes a long way.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Cardamom chocolate lava cake FTW

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you guys all thinking of a different cardamom?

Cardamom is quite literally the worst thing that I have ever tasted, and I taste it all the time.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah it’s delicious

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

And they’re so strong that biting into one leaves that nasty taste in my mouth for five minutes.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Are these the pods? I use the powder quite sparingly.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, they’re pods.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

well i wouldn’t use the full pods w/o removing them from whatever i was cooking after

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

If you are chewing on the pods you are doing it wrong.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I bite them by accident sometimes.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s true, cardamom use is fraught with danger.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s well known that your tastebuds are broken, tea-hater.

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by rotorueter on Jan 5, 2012 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

You munch on cardamom, then.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t you know it’s impolite to quiz a lady about the contents of her rack?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

TELL US ABOUT YOUR RACK!

(oh come on, you knew this was going to happen eventually)

=p

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

What would you like to know?

by Amy G's Rack on Jan 5, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Spiciness!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Use fresh basil

Seriously. Grow your own. There’s literally no point in using the dried stuff, it’s terrible, and basil is super easy to grow in a pot anywhere that gets a bit of sun.

I mean, that goes for most herbs. Parsley too. And coriander, though it’s much harder to grow indoors.

But I know a lot of people don’t want a whole herb garden, but seriously if you use basil any amount at all it’s so easy and so worth it to have some growing somewhere.

by DiggingForFire on Jan 6, 2012 2:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I’m going to start re-playing Ocarina of Time.

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by free f.p. #14 on Jan 5, 2012 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

Always a good decision.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved that game

are you playing the new version?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve got the new (3D) version in my gaming mix now

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by lame-o on Jan 5, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

the original. I’ve got an N64 in my room at school, and just brought the cartridge back with me from home.

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by free f.p. #14 on Jan 5, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I finally got Mass Effect 2 for myself

After watching my old roomie basically play through it.

I made the most entitled spoiled upperclass dude in 1 who’s going to play as an indignant renegade all the way through. I’m looking forward to it, especially since I’ve suddenly acquired more free time than I’ve had previously.

by Cap M on Jan 5, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Me tooooo

I tried start playing it this afternoon, but got bored listening to Codex entries after a while and took a bread.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh and a soldier paragon lady with guns

who looks like <a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/ffmsingers/Anneke/Promo/anneke11-7992http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg211/ffmsingers/Anneke/Promo/anneke11-799274.jpg" target="new">anneke van giersbergen

Can’t wait to see her running around with an omni blade in 3. Mostly because it’s funny.

by Cap M on Jan 5, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh, way too many Codex entries.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s interesting stuff, but I don’t want to spend all of my gameplay time reading.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough. I make the bioware exception

As they and Bethesda seem to be the only one whose supplemental material is amazing. It’s also cool to listen to tunes while reading these or planet scanning.

Music is cool. Are you cool? I’m cool.

by Cap M on Jan 5, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I was reading the codex entries for a while. Now I just read the ones that might inform my interests and mark the rest as read.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m exactly the type of person to want to get all the lore, though. Especially since I haven’t played the original. I just got booooored.

/insert disc
/patch game
/try to register with EA for bonus content
/fail to register
/read online for solutions
/fail to find solutions
/start game
/shoot robot doodz
/meet illusive man
/start reading codex entries
/get bored
/quit game
/read synopsis of ME1 on Wikipedia

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I just watch the walkthrough videos on youtube

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 5:38 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Here there be spoilers

Mass Effect Lore in a Minute

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I more or less powered through ME1 so I could play 2.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

PS3 owner, so that left me SOL.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The gameplay is very different. I actually prefer the first game’s story, but ME2 is more fun to play.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The first game’s story sounded pretty awesome.

Also, I understand that the first game’s elevators were obnoxious.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah… that was their annoying way of hiding load times.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

hence why I installed the game

Was a problem since you couldn’t do that way back when, but you can now. Awesome.

by Cap M on Jan 5, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

And supplying sidequests!

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds delicious.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Great game

I played it with a soldier like a FPS. Great story too.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 5, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

i think re-playing any of the zelda games is a great decision

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

i need to play more skyward sword this weekend

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I've played about 30 hours worth...

still haven’t beaten the game… it’s amazing

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Got it for Christmas,

but don’t have a MotionPlus controller.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

neither did i at first, had to drop another 40 or whatever for the controller

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, trying to avoid that if I can, but the attachment is out of stock everywhere right now because of Zelda. So I’ll just bide my time.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, good idea, i tried finding one at Best Buy here, they were sold out for the same reason. You thinking about ordering one?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just gonna check Gamestop periodically. I might lurk on Amazon, though.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Good idea. Last resort could be amazon. By the way, luckily when i went to pick up zelda and Batman, both games were preowned, got them 10% off

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m thinking of getting that… not sure how much time I have to put into it though.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

also thinking of playing Batman Arkham City, haven’t even started playing it yet though

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That game is pretty great. Definitely worthy for being nominated for game of the year.

Best recommendation would be to take your time and get trophies and stuff as you play, rather than just powering through the story and doing that stuff later.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You think so? I’ll probably start playing it soon.

I’ll definitely do that, just get the side stories and trophies first then complete the game and the story later

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I would have kept playing it, but I finished up the side missions just in time to get Skyrim at release.

It’s fun just to go around the city and beat up thugs and try to collect trophies and stuff.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

How’s Skyrim? Because i heard that is one of the best games of 2011.

Graphics pretty good in Batman? Storyline? Gameplay?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Arkham City is pretty solid all around. Great ambience, good voice acting and writing, graphics suit the style well, combat is fun, lots to explore…

Much of the same could be said about Skyrim; probably the best AAA title this year, though it is much less directed, and is waaaaay more huge and has more freedom of choice. Both are great titles.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s sweet, one thing i like about some games is the voice acting, like L.A. Noire, the voice acting was awesome, Uncharted 3 same thing. I’m pumped to play it now.

See, i never played the previous Skyrims, is it just a role playing game? or what?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

“Previous Skyrims” – n00b! (I kid!)

It’s the Elder Scrolls series. I only started with the previous installment (Oblivion). Skyrim is the 5th one. It’s an RPG, but man does it let you do a lot of stuff. I’m geekily enjoying making my own armor and shit. Good creatures, decent storyline so far. I’m loving it.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I lost so much of my life playing Daggerfall.

so much.

My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Jan 5, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

So it’s a better WoW

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Waaaaaay different than WoW.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically, more fun than WoW

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Well minus the MMO…

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont even know what that means

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Massively Multiplayer Online

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

lol, awesome

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s a single player RPG, but big open world (so maybe one “M”)

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Skyrim is a single-player, offline game. Also, it’s pretty goddamn gorgeous, whereas WoW is running on a 7-year old engine that needs to support hundreds of players at a time.

Skyrim is just pretty to look at.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds pretty amazing, i’ll definitely give it a shot

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

If you are curious, there is a metric butt-ton of coverage on YouTube. Highly anticipated, great critical reception, and lots of people covering it in LPs and other videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjqsYzBrP-M

Watch that video and tell me it isn’t ridiculously badass. (Coincidentally, Jeremy Soule did a fantastic job with the soundtrack.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahahahahah. I love that they haven’t the “Giants launch you into space” physics glitch.

I’m a fan of this one, myself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0weD8iBsmqM

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Few minor ways to really make a game great: Soundtrack and voice acting

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

There were a lot of complaints in Oblivion that there were only like 10 voice actors. They increased that number significantly for Skyrim. You still notice a fair bit of overlap, but there’s hundreds and hundreds of PCs, and it’s done well, or at least entertainingly goofy, so it’s not too bad.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s almost like I kinda want the game to play out like a movie, with cutscenes, action… But, that’s sweet, i’ll definitely try this game out, or at least check out some reviews before i do anything. Easy to get used to it even though i didn’t play the previous skyrims?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I had never played an Elder Scrolls game before this one. There’s pre-existing lore, but you don’t need to know it beforehand. Easy to pick up, hard to put down.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

i like how you said that. Thanks for the info!

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

and you can read about a lot of that lore in books in the game haha

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s only one Skyrim.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

oh… Elder Scrolls then

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Or October

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by Giant among Angels on Jan 5, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It's like Highlander.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on your tastes

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Might just rent it actually, why not

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

skyrim is amazing

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Question

I’ve never played an Elder Scrolls game before, but I’d like a game to play and don’t have the grind time for KOTOR.

I have sufficient Amazon giftcards to get Skyrim. Would I like it? I like plot. I don’t mind if a game is long if it’s engaging.

by GiantPain on Jan 5, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, if you want plot, it’s probably not the best choice. or rather I can’t help you because I’m like 30 hours in and I’ve hardly touched the main plot.

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

The game itself isn’t really long per se. The main quest I think can be completed pretty quickly. But if you try to do everything it has to offer, it’s pretty much endless.

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Good choice.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

As a game, it’s more an achievement in fully realizing a world, rather than fully realizing a story. The main quest is there, but there’s a heavy element of roleplaying, since you really get a lot of choice in who your character is, what their morality is, and how you choose to play the game.

To some degree, you get to chart your course through the world, which I think is why people are so enchanted by it.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

How are your decision making skills in games? Do you constantly second guess the choices you make and think that the other option may have been better or more enjoyable? Are you a hoarder and try to pick up every item you see because hey, maybe sometime down the line I’ll desparately need this iron pot! These are the reasons I can’t play Skyrim.

If you want an idea what the game is like, browse through this:
http://www.youtube.com/show?p=wnbqiwR8reU&tracker=show_av

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by apistat on Jan 5, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm totally like that, but I just bought the game anyway

I’m the dude who played both KOTORs 3 times because I wanted to do everything.

by GiantPain on Jan 5, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I pick up a ton of shit. Sell some. Drop some. Make my attendant hold some. I have a really hard time parting ways with any enchanted items, even if they don’t go with my outfit.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

get a house

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m working on it!

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

it has saved my life

especially once the dragon scales and bones started to pile up

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I have 3 houses.

They are full of awesome crap I will never use.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

and

you should break all the enchanted items and learn how to make those enchantments yourself!!!

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh my. How did I not know this? /n00b

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

i only figured it out recently!!

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

i also only recently figured out

that you have to manually activate new shouts

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The shouts thing is kinda cool.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

lol noob

I ran out of my surplus of dragon souls, which is somewhat distressing.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

i think i still have like 3-4 left after activating all my shouts

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I had like 5 souls, so I just took a detour to raid a bunch of dungeons and word walls.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I kind of hate getting attacked by dragons, though, a lot of the time. It’s like, “bitch, I’m busy!”

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Always a welcome detour for me!

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

the best

was the time I got a killing blow on a dragon (my character, like, jumped onto its neck and them bashed its head in).

Then IMMEDIATELY after, a guard said, “My cousin is off fighting dragons and what do I get? Guard duty.”

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I have three dragon skeletons just PILED up in I think Rorikstead, and then the guards blather about a dragon being sighted in Kynesgrove.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

i had one glitch

where i walked out of a dungeon and a dragon just kind of fell out of the sky dead in front of me

which was weird enough but now every time i warp to that dungeon, the dragon’s body is out there (dead) but not as a skeleton.

it’s bizarre.

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like this will not end well for you.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Jan 5, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

i've still never played KOTOR 2

but i definitely played KOTOR 1 like 4 times

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

And speaking of best games of the year...

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I just finished playing this yesterday

OMG, so brilliant. So, so brilliant. I’m sad it’s over. First game for a while I feel like turning round and playing again, mainly to hear Stephen Merchant’s lines again.

by DiggingForFire on Jan 6, 2012 2:31 AM PST up reply actions  

It is known.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

OT but related to food talk

Dinner tonight: espresso braised pot roast in the slow cooker.

Smells good. Waiting for the man to get home to try it out. Gonna serve up some garlic mashed potatoes and garlic bread. Maybe a salad, to try to make it a healthy-ish meal.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 7:00 PM PST reply actions  

wow that sounds awesome. hope it turns out

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 5, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

you had me at “espresso braised”

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, right? I had to give it a try.

I’ll bet it will make tasty sandwiches over the weekend, too.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds incredible

you’re giving me tons of ideas

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking about skipping dinner but now I am hungry

I may walk over to Lunardi’s and buy a sammich and some chips.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I envy you and your walking distance Lunardi’s.

We are getting a New Leaf market next month a couple miles from here. Pretty stoked.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

cedar plank salmon with bulgur and asparagus

hmmm maybe i’ll put the asparagus in the bulgur

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit from VGs cafe.

Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Jambalaya with hot italian sausage and shrimp. Hopefully it turns out okay, I’m always nervous about new cooking adventures.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Post meal report

That was pretty good shizz. The meat was tender and flavorful. The drippings made for an awesome gravy. Even my non-red-meat-eating oldest took a few bites and declared it good. And also the cat liked it. Overall, a win.

I’ll make that one again.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

yum

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice

Gonna have to try that out for sure

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Hello

There have been many posts here this week and I’ve missed everything. Anything interesting happen?

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Jan 5, 2012 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

Can’t think of a thing.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Huff is in the best shape of his life, so he’s gonna carry the Giants to another World Series title.

by jhawx on Jan 5, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Kegels

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

You can do them in the car on the way to work!

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I love watching the Sharks suit up.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 7:31 PM PST reply actions  

Little Tommy Wingels is playing tonight.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Greiss.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Meth Squirrel!!!!!

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

This sounds like a good story.

Hubby wants to know what a Blue Jacket is.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Greiss when he was with the Sharks several 2? 3? seasons ago used to get a little uh, hyper in the crease. Somebody on FtF said he looked like a squirrel on meth …. and so he has been known ever since as “the meth squirrel”

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

no idea what blue jackets is. Like a yellow jacket, but blue? I’d look it up but I’ve got too much multi-tasking going on as it is.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

isn't it a civil war ref

but their logo is like a yellow jacket w/ blue instead

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

yup, the Civil War

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

TOMMY

WINGELS

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

“Little Tommy Wingles” always “little” hehe even when he’s 109 years old.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

haha. he’ll never score a damn goal in this league

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Crap

meth squirrel fail

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 7:42 PM PST reply actions  

OT:

did people talk bout the bison already? in Golden Gate Park?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:48 PM PST reply actions  

a baby bison was killed by a dog

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/01/05/BAA31MLC23.DTL

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, sad.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Did the Santa Cruz judicial forms issue get resolved?

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It was just a review of the new ones for 2012. Did you know there’s a special form for harrassment at a private post-secondary school?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t, but now I know. That counts towards my CLE requirements I think.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Stupid dog walker (?)

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just asking if there is a leash law in SF

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a general law isn’t there? just in certain areas there isn’t

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what i thought. But really, that’s pretty bad

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Per SF Municipal Code
(a) It shall be unlawful for the owner or guardian of any animal, other than a domestic cat, to permit said animal to run at large within the City and County; provided, however, that the provisions of this subsection shall not be applicable to any area under the jurisdiction of the Recreation and Park Commission of the City and County, and which has been designated by said Commission as an animal exercise area.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Domestic cats don’t have to be leashed but turtles do?

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

hey you think that’s bad? try getting a leash on your canary!

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

or your birds

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It depends on your read of “run at large”, but apparently the cat lobby is very powerful.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, here we go
(a) “At large” shall mean any dog off the premises of its owners or guardians and not under restraint by a leash, rope or chain of not more than eight (8) feet in length, and any other animal not under physical restraint.

I maintain that “Run” is an ambiguous term, though.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Bwaaaahhhhhhaaaaa
apparently the cat lobby is very powerful.

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by nvsfg on Jan 6, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I read they think it was a dog ?

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

yea

some dog walker didn’t keep their dogs on a leash, dog left to the bison, killed a baby bison

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the little dog spooked the baby bison and it fell over… I read it had broken ribs (which I bet would taste great after being espresso braised).

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

mmmmmm espresso braised….

But really… there’s no leash law in San Francisco?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The walker was cited.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/2012/01/baby-bison-dies-after-incident-small-dog-golden-gate-park

Park Patrol identified the dog handler who was trying to coax the dog from the area. The handler was found to have five dogs off leash and was cited for failure to use a leash in a designated on-leash area as well as for animal disturbance.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Derpwalker

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard about it from tk.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t realize there were bison in GG park. weird
Weird like the bison that live on Avalon

Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Jan 5, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Where there happens to be a Catalina Fucking Wine Mixer

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Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.

by Giant among Angels on Jan 5, 2012 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Tommy Wingels... Love and Honor to Miami

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:55 PM PST reply actions  

go bears anyone?

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

LOL PAC 12

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

shit.

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

cal is closing; 16 pt deficit down to 4

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal ball; 4:24 to go

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

back down by 8; less than 2m to go

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

damnit. 85-92.

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

ps

shuttup, pika

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Jose Gutierrez

my favorite player behind Rob Jones

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

JORGE

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

mainly because he has the same last name as me

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

i thought that your last name was “giant”

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

now that would be awesome

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

4 minute power play!!!!!
not like they will actually score….

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 8:02 PM PST reply actions  

Ryane Clowe!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

DAMMIT WINGELS

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s taken a couple of good shots.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Good

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Power Play

poor Dan Boyle.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m trying to flip between the Michigan game and Sharks

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Just blew the PP.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The way you guys talk about the Sharks, I thought they were near last place. I looked it up and your team is battling for 1st.

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by SFGuy on Jan 5, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

If you aint first ur last

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It really doesn't feel like it most days.

Pretty uninspired play a lot of the time.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

Don’t you think that a person could easily think the Giants are the worst team in the league by reading McC?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

reading some of the posts would do that to even an observer and member like myself. Some have the idea that the team will be so bad next year that they won’t follow them ever again. I don’t get it. We have outstanding pitching and some good defensive players, an unproved chemistry that will take some time to develop, and some REAL good hitting players coming back ( Posey, Sanchez).
Let’s give ’em a chance to play it out, people!

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by luved the stick on Jan 5, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Sanchez is not a really good offensive player, but he’s certainly better than the other pieces we trotted out there last year. As a hitter he’s about average for his position, but obviously you can’t have a Sandoval or Posey at every spot on the diamond.

In any case, I’ll be excited to have him back.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Lifetime .297 hitter, I’ll take him. Maybe he’ll find the swing that earned him the batting title in 2006? He does hit a lot of doubles.

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by luved the stick on Jan 5, 2012 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Mmm, Darwin Barney.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I really thought he had a great season last year, based on how he was hitting early in the season and whenever he played the Giants.

Then I went and actually looked it up.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s like the best case scenario for Burriss.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it bad that of that slash line, the least believable of the three is Burris slugging .350?

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, I’d believe that he wouldn’t be able to slug .350, even if he hit .300.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

God. He slugged .212 last year.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I could see him hitting .350/.350/.350 if he had some crazy BABIP.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone’s debating that the run prevention is likely to be quite good. I’m still pretty pessimistic about the offensive side of things though.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Greis is pretty alright

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

If he plays like this consistently then why not? Big thing though is that he has to be consistent

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Greiss hasn't played in a month

but he looks pretty good.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s up with Nitty? haven’t been following the team as much lately

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

He was on IR

He’s played once, maybe twice?, since he came off.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Has he even played much since we got him from Tampa was it?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the first

year I’e followed the team during the regular season. I usually only watch hockey during the playoffs.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, that’s how i used to be, now i’m obsessed, guess that’s what going to a hockey school does for ya. Miami has produced a ton of good players. Boyle and Wingels

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

How weird

how did MIami get to be a hockey school.

How did Logan miss that??!

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by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Hasn’t it always been? It seems like the sort of place that would be.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the hockey program began in the 70s

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Miami Ohio. But we’ve made the frozen four a few times over the last 5 years, lost to jponry’s team and Boston U…

And yea, i have no idea, that was a clear shot

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

lololol

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Never felt so bad in my life

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

:(

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by jponry on Jan 5, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

haha,

it was my birthday weekend, dad flew in from SF, as soon as he left to the hotel from my place, Miami gives up the two goals, that was incredible

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, duh!!

Are you still going to Chicago? Will you become a Black Hawks fan?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

ha, oh my god no!

and yea, i still want to move to chicago, i literally just got back from the Chicago/Ohio/Michigan area on the 23rd of December…

By the way, there is a guy from Redwood City on the Miami hockey team

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Miami of Ohio…

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ohio of Miami.

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ohiami? Mihaio?

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

HA

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Mohio of Oiami

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow... Nash vs. Boyle

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Fighting is probably my least favorite part of hockey.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

That would've been crazy though

Boyle… 5’10 vs. Nash who looks 6’5

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

It was more of an idle thought, as Demers was in the face of that other guy. Props to Boyle for taking on the big dude, though, I guess.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea, props to Boyle. Nash isn’t really a “tough” guy. But i see what you’re sayin

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

boyle’s had a rough night

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, and a rough season

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

When I see a hockey fight, it just fails to get any reaction out of me other than, “Can they go back to playing now?” Or, “I hope this doesn’t put them on a needless penalty kill.”

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

yea. I barely see many fights though when i watch a game, i just like watching the game itself, and in person i enjoy watching that more than a Giants game

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Hockey is so great live. It loses so much on tv.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed!

College hockey is just insane… no fights allowed. If you do, you’re suspended

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t been to a Sharks game in a loooong time. Plus, I’m further away from San Jose than most people, which makes it hard to get motivated to go see another.

I did enjoy a college game I saw about four years ago, though.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea. That’s the way i felt when i was living up in the East Bay, i always asked “what’s the point” And that’s how i feel now about Giants games, i don’t feel like goin because i’m in Santa Cruz now.

College is definitely fun to watch

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I live in SC and I'm happy to drive to the City to see the Giants.

Or to San Jose to see the Sharks. I just can’t afford it right now.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

That too, definitely, it’s just way too much, and i’d rather just watch the game in a comfortable chair, don’t have to worry bout money, or a commute

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I like to take a day off work

and go to midweek getaway day games. We try to do this at least once a year. When we had Wednesday furloughs, I was in heaven.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Day games are fun. I haven’t been to one since 2002, unfortunately.

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by El Person on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to Haren v. Lincecum on Fan Appreciation Day in ’09… got to the park 3 hours early just to take in everything before the season ended. Totally worth it.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Also worth it because it was Aurilia’s last game.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

we only manage once or twice a season for the sharks, usually once a month for the Giants, though last season we stooped going to games in June, too much of a bother…….

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

We haven't gone to a Sharks game in two years.

WE used to go at least once a season.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

stooped? this is what I get for trying to type with a cat in my lap!

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently Nate looks bigger.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:05 PM PST reply actions  

Hellooooo Dave R

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Vogelsong is the last guy he’s worried about! The last guy?

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

stop looking in his pants

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by son of ggf on Jan 5, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

N-O-T

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s the AAMCO commercial. I don’t get it.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow that rollerskate commercial is bad. I’d almost prefer the bowlmor slut.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 8:21 PM PST reply actions  

watching Charles Barkley try to do commentating

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Thornton?

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

SFGiants sez
Coming next on @KNBR – Brandon Belt joins @BaseballMarty on the Hot Stove League Show (8:35)

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 8:37 PM PST reply actions  

“how many at bats you think you’ll get this season Brandon?”

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

PSA
Facebook users should be on alert. An old worm has learned some new tricks, and is spreading through the social network compromising accounts and possibly gaining access to financial information. Seculert claims that logon credentials from over 45,000 Facebook accounts have been stolen so far.

more info here

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 8:44 PM PST reply actions  

/clicks link, gets worm

GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!

by Cody_ransom on Jan 6, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

pcworld link, not facebook

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by Merope on Jan 6, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Naaaaaaaaaaaaate!!!

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

Snake? SNAKE?

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ohhhh there’s a snake

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

RAIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Figured I could count on you to get that one.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS GAME IS HIGHLY DISAPPOINTING

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt seemed to enjoy his time in Winter Ball.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

He probably hasn’t traveled much outside the US.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

He said he wouldn’t leave the hotel much since he’s not the adventurous type.

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Fortunately, Henry Sosa was around to play volleyball with.

by Hyoton on Jan 5, 2012 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Good soldiers do

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Belt’s fatal flaw: Dallas Cowboys fan.

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by SFGuy on Jan 5, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Rangers fan

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a Pill fan now

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Huff

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He grew up there. It’s not like he’s a Cowboys fan from Novato.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

My boss is from Auburn, and is a Giants, Cowboys, and Lakers fan. Does not compute.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Gah.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Only roots for winners

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

MURICAS TEAM

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Bryce Harper/Lebron James syndrome

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently he became a sports fan in the late 80s – early 90s.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

enjoy fresno

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CMON WINGELS

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 8:59 PM PST reply actions  

So, i'm going to Vegas this weekend

and i’ve really never gambled in a casino

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:24 PM PST reply actions  

I'm going next month for a friend's bachelor party

Clubbing and strippers is really not my thing, but I don’t have a valid reason to say no.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Jan 5, 2012 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Well… i doubt we’ll go to the club much, it’ll mainly be the casino, but yea, no reason to say no at all. We will see, all they do is play blackjack

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

and i'm driving

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you gamble outside of casinos, or just dont play card games at all?

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Jan 5, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

basically just played hold ‘em poker, at least used to a few years ago, was pretty good at it. Blackjack i play all the time, just not for real money. Not sure how to really play it in a casino, what’s the whole “don’t touch the cards” thing?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The dealers are really nice and will explain all the rules and etiquette to you.

They can also give you a little bit of advice. If you play a low cost table there is usually people there that will help you since it is you guys against the house. Other players are the best way to learn how to win and make the most money. Don’t be afraid to ask and let them know you are new and they can be totally nice. I have only run into a few jackasses who don’t want to help new players.

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by scout6 on Jan 5, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you scout!

appreciate the advice, that’s very good to know, i’ll probably be asking for tips from the people i’m with, also i’ll ask the dealer about the rules. Thanks again! By the way, i’m stopping at doghouse grill on the way down

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 6, 2012 12:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Blackjack kills me in a casino. I try to avoid it, unless I play with others.

Craps is my game, money goes up and down fast but it is a rush. I paid for one of my trips to vegas with winnings at craps.

You can still play hold em in vegas too.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 6, 2012 7:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I build up my money via blackjack and then spend it all on roulette.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I usually lose some money at blackjack but that’s mainly because I stay at the table too long. Which, except for one horrible night, I didn’t care because I was at the table for 3-4 hours, got lots of drinks, and had fun a lot of fun.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 6, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s certainly no guarantee. What I do is start there, if I suck and lose then it’s off to the sports book. If I win then it’s off to roulette.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you have a tight budget?

Cuz if you do go to the excalibur $1/$2 limit tables. You can keep your chip stack and drink for free all night (like at all casinos) and they have a wheel you can spin if you get Aces cracked to win some more cash

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh, i don’t really think i have a tight budget. Yea, i heard about that, circus circus is cheap. Anyway out there is cheap. We are all staying at the Bellagio, some guy just bought a room and said “yea, we’re all staying there”

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't care how cheap your budget is

Don’t go circus circus.

Excalibur should be your floor

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Noted! Thanks for the tip!

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

But if you have a solid budget

I like gambling at the Venetian or Palazzo.

If you catch a hot streak. Go gamble at the Wynn

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

lol, really? The Wynn?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't been to the Aria which is supposed to be super nice

But The Wynn is AMAZING

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Figure i got to go to the casino confident, knowing the people i’m hanging with, i wouldn’t be surprised if we went there

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Aria is right next to the Bellagio, and it’s really nice while still being accessible. There’s some low roller tables that go as low as $5 minimum.

The Wynn always projected an air of “poor people, stay out” to me.

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by Murray, Present on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

$5 minimum? wow...

but that’s also good to know, doubt we’ll hit up the Wynn then… probably venetian and bellagio and a few others around there

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 6, 2012 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya...

Some places even do $5 minimum AND single deck… Best deal in town is to go to Fremont Street. Lots of casinos that are close, cheap drinks, and good deals.

Watching the Giants play baseball is like buying tickets 162 times a year to have Mike Tyson pretend your testicles are a speed bag.

by danieljgrant on Jan 6, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

This is why I love gambling in Deadwood. Every table is $2 minimum. It’s no Vegas but it’s pretty damn fun.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

For a great deal near Vegas...

Go to Primm. 30-45 minutes outside Vegas. Cheap but nice rooms, great prices for gambling and drinks. Great deal.

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by danieljgrant on Jan 6, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Laughlin may be similar for those coming from AZ.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

True.

Watching the Giants play baseball is like buying tickets 162 times a year to have Mike Tyson pretend your testicles are a speed bag.

by danieljgrant on Jan 6, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Excalibur has a great buffet.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s good to know… however i’m sure my friends will be more into the “bar” than the “buffet”

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

:D

YAY!!! actually… /looks into wallet… NOOOOO

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The worst is those giant

“booze oboes” (hubby’s term) that people walk around with.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

...oh god

well… i think we just want to rage… but not pay a ton for the drinking part

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Then don't buy drinks on the Strip...

You’ll end up paying $5 for a bottle of Bud Light…. And don’t even think about buying mixed drinks or shots. Holy damn…

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by danieljgrant on Jan 6, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

You trying to go to any of the big clubs?

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm thinking we might do that once or twice

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Tao Beach

But I hear XS is really popular right now.

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet. Thank you for the advice, i’ll probably give the guys a heads up about those places. And i’ll probably let you know where we did end up going to, and if we went to Tao Beach or XS

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 5, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Circus Circus is a dump and it’s at the other end of the strip; there’s nothing out that way. If you’re into buffets, certain hotels have a 24 hour buffet pass for $45. You can go as many times within 24 hours to 7 different hotel buffets.

by City Girl on Jan 6, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Circus circus is (or was) the place to rent a kid’s stroller on the strip.
But then again, if being the place to rent a stroller on the strip is the best that can be said about a gambling den, then that’s one anemic den.

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by Lunkus on Jan 6, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Vegas is not for kids. I went with my family a few months ago, and I doubt I’ll ever go back. During Halloween, my friend went to Fright Dome at Circus Circus and said it was the scariest thing she’s ever experienced. Yeah, not for me.

by City Girl on Jan 6, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Red Rock casino. Movie theater, bowling, arcade, even a non-smoking section for bingo (cheapest way to drink).

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I can do that stuff here without someone trying to hand my kids cards with pictures of naked women.

by City Girl on Jan 6, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s the worst part actually, no one ever hands me naked woman pictures when I go there.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

It was quite interesting 10-15 years ago

when Vegas tried to be family-friendly. That didn’t work so they went the opposite way.

I’m pretty meh on Vegas these days. It’s not the value it was even 10 years ago and the drive up is a pain. I don’t really gamble so all that’s left is the shows, food, and spa, all of which I can get in Orange County.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. It’s only going to get worse as construction has slowed down considerably and the unemployment rate is high. I don’t gamble either, and I can do everything else here. Plus the attractions aren’t all that great and expensive. The roller coaster at the NY hotel is $14.

by City Girl on Jan 6, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Going later this month with some friends to celebrate some birthdays. Ought to be fun.

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by can of corn on Jan 5, 2012 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Stay away from slot machines. They suck and are boring.

Black jack is awesome, you can play for 5 bucks a hand. Roulette is a terrible game, best odds against you. Booze is free as long as you are playing so play something that takes your money slowly, like blackjack with lots of people and you can get drunk for free.

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by scout6 on Jan 5, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Blackjack even has such steadfast rules that you can bring a cheat sheet with you telling you what to do for every card you draw. And if you still don’t know, people at the table will give you advice because it’s in their interest for you not to do something stupid. It’s also a good game to play if you just want to hang out at a table, drink, and talk with people because it’s not high-stakes enough to blow you out of the water quickly.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Craps and blackjack are the best games

Not only are the odds the best for you, they are community-building. You can make friends if you are a hot shooter. And you can say things like “EVERYONE’S A WINNAH!”

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by Murray, Present on Jan 5, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

Blackjack to try to win money, craps for fun, and it’s cheaper to buy overpriced drinks at the bar than to get free ones at the roulette table.

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by Bret1110 on Jan 6, 2012 5:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks again Scout!

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 6, 2012 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

that's the point i think also

“get drunk for free”

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 6, 2012 1:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Having played blackjack professionally, I can tell you one place to absolutely stay away from:

Caesar’s Palace. I was sitting there, earning my modest amount, and a pit boss sidled up to the dealer and jerked his chin at the one other player at my table. “Take that guy’s stack,” he said. Four hands later, it was done.

by mrs. owlcroft on Jan 6, 2012 12:56 AM PST up reply actions  

0_0

So it was a totally rigged game? Seems like the moment he heard that would’ve been the prime time for that dude to cash out. Any idea what his transgression might have been? Card-counting?

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 6, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The timing of injuries or duration of injuries is not exactly projectable.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

But he’s broken.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 5, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He had one knee injury, and one shoulder injury. The knee has evidently not been a huge issue since he returned to play in 2010; it remains to be seen how the shoulder will affect him.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

His age and the quote in that article are concerning. And, it’s his throwing arm.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He wasn’t back until May in 2010, and it turned out fine, though we don’t have Uribe this year.

What I draw from the quote is, “I feel ready to play, but if the trainers want me to wait, I’m going to honor their recommendations.”

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’d rather he not be back until he’s ready, since everyone’s so worried about his health.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Andrew Baggarly on June 12th, 2011:
Sanchez had left shoulder surgery each of the past two offseasons

This was before his right shoulder surgery last year.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Beltran

had played 5 more games than Freddy in the past 3 years

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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

There’s a fun stat.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

If it makes you feel any better, in 2010 Beltran had over 100 more plate appearances than Freddy Sanchez has registered in an individual season since before he was a Giant.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoops 2011. Still making that mistake.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

not sure where you get this. Beltran had 520 AB in 2011. Freddy had more than that in 06,07,08. I’m not a stat person . Are plate appearances different than AB.s? please enlighten me

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by luved the stick on Jan 6, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Plate appearances are number of times going to the plate. At-bats don’t include walks or HBPs.

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Gracias

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by luved the stick on Jan 6, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

1) Plate appearances are different than at bats. At bats only include trips to the plate that could result in hits, so exclude those that result in walks, etc. Plate appearances count every time you step up to the plate.

2) I said 100 more PAs than Sanchez has recorded in an individual season since before he was a Giant. Beltran had 598 PAs in 2011. Sanchez has been a Giant since 2009. In those years, he’s had 489, 479, and 261 PAs.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

True

he played in 142 games in 2011.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

“Since before he was a Giant” is a somewhat confusing reference point. If you mean to indicate exclusively his tenure as a Giant, wouldn’t “since he became a Giant” make more sense?

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

this

i think I was confused by that, too.

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by luved the stick on Jan 6, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, I mean to indicate all of 2009, 2010, and 2011, and he was a Pirate for some of that (so his exclusive Giants tenure isn’t quite right).

However, I really just phrased it the way it occurred to me first. I’m sure there are hundreds of better ways to say it.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

You know, the MI situation this year sort of reminds me of the one that landed Bocock a starting gig all those years ago.

“So, we’re going to rely on one player with no honest backup plan at this position, but hey at least we have centerfielders.”

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Except in this case the starter is also a backup instead of Omar Visquel.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m actually thinking more in terms of Freddy Sanchez. The aging middle infielder who we are for some reason expecting to get 150 games out of.

Of course, Vizquel’s backup was Burriss, if I recall, and Sanchez’s is Fontenot. So it’s not quite as desperate. It still seems like a severely flawed plan was drawn up somewhere along the way here.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

someone has to field all those singles up the middle…although that doesn’t really make sense bc Crawford’s strength is defense. but I still had to go for it.

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 6, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

It really does feel like Pablo’s going to log some innings at shortstop, doesn’t it?

by Evan on Jan 6, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Sharks hold on!

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by DFARowand on Jan 5, 2012 9:56 PM PST reply actions  

Sharks win!

As hubby says, “leading the league in blood pressure.”

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 9:56 PM PST reply actions  

Help me out folks. My dad told me today that he saw some fat guy on the TV who is affiliated with the Giants say the team wont be good for a couple of seasons while the Zito and Rowand contracts come off the books. I’m thinking Gary Radnich. What say you?

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 5, 2012 10:11 PM PST reply actions  

Could’ve been Ratto.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course!

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 5, 2012 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have anything to back that up, but Ratto generally has a cynical outlook on every local team, and does a fair bit of TV.

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by Solidarity on Jan 5, 2012 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Radnich was on CSN tonight before the Sharks game, the Mr. and I both said “Oh my, he’s not looking too good.” Never liked his schtick but I hope he’s not really sick or something.

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by Merope on Jan 5, 2012 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

He looked terrible.

Fatter than ever and kind of sallow.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

why wouldn’t they not be good while the contracts come off the books? Wouldn’t it be the opposite?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Not really, when the money is available, the Giants could conceivably pick up free agents who produce better.

I think the team will be better than expected with a good year out of Posey and Panda.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 6, 2012 7:08 AM PST up reply actions  

So...I'm gonna buy Skyrim

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by Natto on Jan 5, 2012 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

See you in July

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by SFGuy on Jan 5, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Luckyyy

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 6:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I was up until midnight playing that. Which sucked when I had to get up at 6am this morning.

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by can of corn on Jan 6, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, this would've been awesome

From here:

The Mariners have inked Iwakuma to a one-year contract worth $1.5 million, with $3.4 million available in potential incentives.

LOL A’S

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by speckops on Jan 5, 2012 11:46 PM PST reply actions  

lol both of them, really

Yeah, 15.25 MM over 4 years was what they offered him. So if he hits all his incentives, the AAV is pretty similar. Apparently he suffered a shoulder injury and lost 4 mph on most of his stuff this past year, which explains the diminished market for him.

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by speckops on Jan 6, 2012 7:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he also had a strong preference for Seattle. Does Nintendo still own the team?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 8:49 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah, they’re still in charge.

by Hyoton on Jan 6, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s technically NOA, but yeah.

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

And a year older. It’s better per year if he hits the incentives, although 200 IP seems a littttle high.

Amongst other things, the A’s were basically offering Iwakuma the same salary he was making in Japan. So yeah, LOL A’s.

by Hyoton on Jan 6, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

“Would you like to make similar money while doing harder and more work?”

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by speckops on Jan 6, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Mornin' doods.

It’s looking like this string of awesome weather up north is nearing an end. Winter is coming.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 7:00 AM PST reply actions  

Our 5 day forecast has highs in the mid to high 40’s. Very bizarre.

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by speckops on Jan 6, 2012 7:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s great.

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by rotorueter on Jan 6, 2012 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh, according to the extended forecast it is supposed to dip over the weekend and then come back up to the 40s again? Yay! Perhaps I should look past the 3 day forcast!

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I blame TL2

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

yes.

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by son of ggf on Jan 6, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Morning, I’m Golfing in Indianapolis today. That seems wierd.

by andy25 on Jan 6, 2012 7:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Going to be in the 60’s here today. I’m loving it.

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

upper 60’s!
doesn’t bode well for the whole water situation though.

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by Merope on Jan 6, 2012 7:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I know this, and yet I am still immensely enjoying this weather. I think I learned this selfishness from Beltran.

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

WE ARE STILL FEELING THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF THAT TRADE!

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s very foggy this morning, which is weird since it hasn’t rained in like decades…

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by Merope on Jan 6, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Meanwhile, in an office at Oracle Arena…

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I will always be pissed about Zack Wheeler.

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

The worst part now

Is that you can only become more pissed. We received as much out of that trade as we ever will. So even if Wheeler decides to quit baseball tomorrow, there is still no more perceived benefit from that trade. However, any success Wheeler has from this point forward, only serves to make the trade more disappointing.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

You never know...

Beltran could sign with the Giants in 2014 because he really had a good time here in 2011.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 6, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I smell 2/12.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 6, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

a lot of hindsight there

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 9:54 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Not necessarily. There were a fair number of people who were against it from the beginning.

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by speckops on Jan 6, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I was for it. Given the context at the time I’d probably do it again. High reward but also high risk.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I was against it from the start. I was never interested in trading the org’s best prospect for a rental. So, no one should be accusing me of hindsight (I can’t tell if anyone was or not).

And, for what it’s worth, John Sickels says that he would still rank Wheeler as the Giants’ best prospect, “without question.”

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I wasn't talking about you specifically

just as to the sentiment expressed in GWC’s comment.

I can see why you would be against the trade and the stance is more than reasonable. I liked the trade because it showed the team/FO’s commitment to go for a championship.

At the time of the trade, the Giants were four games in front of the Dbacks. The FO got Keppinger and then Beltran to try and shore up the offense and to support the pitching. They obviously didn’t want to give up Wheeler and though that Beltran would 1) help them get to the playoff and 2) get them another WS title.

I much rather have a team that gambled a little then to stay conservative. Angels had this problems for many years where they did not get help at the trade deadline because they were holding on to their prospects.

It sucked that the moves didn’t work out as planned but I like the mentality.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I can intellectually understand and accept all of the arguments that were made at the time. There’s really no need to rehash all of them. It’s not like I’m going to suddenly change my mind now. ;-)

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s disheartening is that the “go for it” mentality seemingly disappears during the offseason, when the biggest cost to the Giants is just money and not depth/prospects.

by Every6thDay on Jan 6, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Listen, we severely reduce our potential need to swing go-for-it trades at the deadline if we make go-for-it moves the rest of the time.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Different context. You’re 4 games up with about 2 months left in the season. You do give up a good prospect but he is a high-A pitching prospect and you have good pitching depth.

Now, it’s a new season where no one really knows what’s going to happen. You have some idea (good pitching, Buster returning) but you really don’t know. To commit a long term deal on a player is a little more risky than I like. Especially since we are still in the Rowand/Zito era.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

The Giants do not and did not have good pitching depth.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, just imagine the pitching depth situation that needed to occur for Ryan Vogelsong to reach the starting rotation in 2011. That’s what the Giants had for pitching depth.

The Giants have very good pitching at the major league level.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, people seem to mistake having an above average rotation as having depth.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s as if the thought is “you have 5 above average starters (at least for their position in the rotation), so you must have more average guys waiting to get in the rotation.”

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Fan bias, obviously.

by Every6thDay on Jan 6, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Last year, an argument went that back of the rotation free agent pitchers were not likely to want to come to the Giants because they weren’t likely to get a chance to pitch. So the Giants’ pitching depth had to come from within or from unusual sources (i.e. Vogelsong). The same situation seems to be in place now, & whether the Giants FO is willing to sign anybody is a different but related matter.

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by Lunkus on Jan 6, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but you could have rotation depth by having a deeper farm system too.

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by speckops on Jan 6, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just going to say the same thing.

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, there’s context, then there’s objective analysis that indicates things probably aren’t going to work out the way the people making the decisions think they will.

by Every6thDay on Jan 6, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, there is

That’s why I said, “The worst part now.” I wasn’t evaluating the trade. I was talking about KDL’s feelings about the trade and how going forward will affect them.

That’s looking over the shoulder of someone voting on who should go to the hall of fame and saying “well, sure, in hindsight he’s a hall of famer.”

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think so. The trade was Wheeler for a few months of Beltran. Nothing beyond that was guaranteed. It would have taken very, very little foresight to imagine that nothing beyond that might well happen.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Granted, kdl was against the trade at the time, I was too, I wasn’t as vocal about it, but I don’t like rental trades to begin with, and as far as rental trades go, that was kind of a bad one. I mean, your highest prospect, #1 draft pick, and you couldn’t get draft picks back from offering Beltran arbitration. So, in that sense, we knew what we were getting at the time of the trade: A couple months of Beltran. We weren’t 100% sure what we were giving up, and only time will tell for certain.

But my intention wasn’t to evaluate the trade from a neutral perspective. Only commenting on how kdl was pissed then, pissed now, and can only get more pissed, since we didn’t get a prospect or anything in the trade that could blossom into a star and salvage it in the future.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

If they had re-signed Beltran (and I do believe it’s easier to sign someone when you already had him on your team), I would be less pissed. As it is, the team got basically nothing for Wheeler, and that seems wrong.

I agree that people may have philosophical differences (e.g., WIn now vs. rentals aren’t the best idea), but I am not much in favor of trading prospects for rentals, in general. My loving Wheeler as a player only fueled the fire.

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m with you on all of that. I’m still confused as to how/why people were interpreting my comment as an attempt to evaluate the trade. It was intended to be a sympathetic “I feel ya, and unfortunately it can only get worse.”

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I understood that. :)

But, I also don’t think there’s anything wrong with looking at in hindsight and saying, “wow, that did not turn out well, did it?” I don’t know what the big deal is.

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

the problem

is that it’s unfair since you don’t get a crystal ball when you make a trade.

If Beltran had led the Giants to a WS title this year, it does not make the trade any more or less reasonable at the time it was made.

Another example is the Edwin Jackson trade, just about everyone ripped the Cardinals when they made that trade but Jackson helped the Cardinals get into the playoffs and eventually the WS. That doesn’t make the trade good at the time it was made.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

If you’re not trying to evaluate the trade or make value statements on the front office, why does it matter?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess

lament away.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, well if you guess. Thanks for allowing it.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

If your friend ordered something for dinner and it turned out shitty, would you tell him that he can’t dislike his dinner because he didn’t have a crystal ball to tell him it would suck before hand? And if he got food poisoning the next day he can’t regret his decision because there was no way in knowing it before hand? Shitty things happen, you’re allowed to be pissed about them.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

With regard to mistakes, not only should you be allowed to be pissed, you should be thinking about how to avoid it in the future instead of deciding it’s unfair to bother yourself with wondering how you could have avoided it.

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it was more of a gamble not an outright mistake. This was just a lesson that when you gamble sometimes you lose.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. Nobody knows how well those things will turn out and the Giants gambled and lost. The FO thought they had a chance to win, thought the fans deserved it, and went for it. It’s just a shame they always wait til July to make those moves.

I can also see why people wouldn’t like that trade so I’m sympathetic to both- it was a really tough call

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 6, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I can certainly see how someone would hate the trade. I was just so tired of watching such a historically bad offense.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s unfair

It’s not unfair.

It’s always important to look back at something that didn’t work and question it. That will make better informed decisions moving forward. It didn’t work; they didn’t win the world series. I hope they think about it moving forward, especially in terms of making a solid plan to try keep that rental later on.

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Hindsight is the only way to evaluate a trade, preferably at least 5 years of hindsight.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 6, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m starting to wonder if we’re now not allowed to evaluate trades ever. Because, you know, it’s unfair.

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by kdl on Jan 6, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Or even talk about how we’re upset at how a trade turned out because, you know, that’s using hindsight to not evaluate a trade.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

i definitely agree. although if wheeler doesn’t have a lot of success we can feel slightly better, but not by much. but what if wheeler does really well and then signs with the Giants bc he always wanted to prove to Giants fans how good he was, and then leads us to a few WS titles? and he never would have gotten a chance if the Mets hadn’t fixed something in his pitching motion or some shit like that? then maybe i would be happy……
drink my tears

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 6, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

High of 69 today. Good Texas weather FTW.

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by ResDog on Jan 6, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

At least the Chicago media has something to talk about with Big Z gone.

by Hyoton on Jan 6, 2012 9:17 AM PST reply actions  

This title frightened me
Mueller, who played for New York Giants, dies

It took me a second to key in on New York.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

same thing here

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 6, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: UCLA wins a men's basketball game.

After going .500 through a grueling nonconference campaign that included tough games with Middle Tennesse State, Richmond, Loyola Marymount, Chaminade and UC Davis, the Bruins get to catch a breather as they roll into conference play and get their first Pac12 win.

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by Cody_ransom on Jan 6, 2012 9:49 AM PST reply actions  

The MI craziness continues
Free agent utility player Alex Cora is drawing interest as a player and as a coach, tweets Jon Heyman of CBSSports. The 14-year veteran will probably choose to play another year, according to Heyman.

Cora posted a .224/.287/.276 line in 172 plate appearances for the Nationals in 2011, playing all four infield positions.
The Mets and free agent shortstop Ronny Cedeno have reached a critical point in their negotiations, according to Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com. They haven’t agreed to a deal yet, but there could be a verdict soon, Rubin reports. Andy McCullough of the Star Ledger tweets that the sides are nearing a deal and that Cedeno is still considering his options.

The Mets seek shortstop depth behind Ruben Tejada and have been linked to free agents such as Cedeno, Jack Wilson and Ryan Theriot. The Pirates declined Cedeno’s option earlier this offseason, after he posted a .249/.297/.339 line in 454 plate appearances.

mlbtraderumor

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 10:35 AM PST reply actions  

for the love of God delete this before Sabean comes across it!

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 6, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll never forget the Dodgers fan I got into a fight with freshman year who said the Dodgers were going to be amazing because of Alex Cora.

by Every6thDay on Jan 6, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

MI craziness = people still looking for MI?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

And paying them money

I think I saw Craig Counsell’s name floated around somewhere yesterday.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

No one mentioned money in those quotations. They could all be settling in on minor league deals.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Huh
MLB MLB
BREAKING: @Cubs acquire 1B Anthony Rizzo and RHP Zach Cates from @Padres for RHP Andrew Cashner and OF Kyung-Min Na.

Theo gets Rizzo back.

by GiantPain on Jan 6, 2012 11:02 AM PST reply actions  

He’s a fruity ass just like his dad Frank.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy crap. They made a Jerky Boys movie?

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW THIS?!?!

by Every6thDay on Jan 6, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

By being a sizzlechest.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 6, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha I forgot about sizzlechest.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 6, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

wha wha whaaaaa?

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by Natto on Jan 6, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Not know anything about Kates or Na, I’m just going to assume that Theo won this trade.

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Looking at it brief

I would say Theo won by a lot. Neither Cashner nor Na’s stat lines is that impressive.

Rizzo is good.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently Cashner is pretty good. Sickel is working on evaluating the deal.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Stil, I’d take a position player over a reliever unless the reliever is, like, elite.

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Cashner is good enough to start. Or at least viewed that way. I think.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 6, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Padres being the new A's.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

/golfclap

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

But soft

what position through Yonder Alonso breaks camp?

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by jctGamer on Jan 6, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

He is at first, and Aramis is at third.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 6, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Arise, fair Yonder,

and slay the envious curveball,
who is already flat and over the plate,
that thou, her batter, art already swinging out thine shoetops.

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

“Do you know who’s playing left field?”
“Na”
" Neither do I"

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 6, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to be outdone by a divisional rival

Brian Sabean is now looking to trade Brandon Belt for Cash and Chin-Lung Hu.

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by jctGamer on Jan 6, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Listening to San Diego Sports Radio

Rizzo is awful because he looked awful in the 153 PAs he had last year in MLB.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 6, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

RIZZO 4 PILL

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by Solidarity on Jan 6, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

why is it that people from MN are so exceedingly nice?

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by son of ggf on Jan 6, 2012 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

eww

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by son of ggf on Jan 6, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Cause all their kids are above average

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 6, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Grant: hmm, let’s see—what will most rile up the mccovens today?

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by son of ggf on Jan 6, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

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