Aubrey Huff Can See His Toes; Giants Now Favored to Win West
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 4, 2012 12:37 PM PST
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PrintIf I had access to players, this site would be awful. More so, even. If I found out that Aaron Rowand is the kind of guy who sends your kids a birthday card after meeting them briefly, I wouldn't be able to separate the person from the player. I'd be quick with the excuses for a player I liked. It's better to think of them as actors in an elaborate dinner theater production.
And if I had a player earnestly tell me this …
"I think I’m preparing a lot better this offseason as far as Pilates," Huff said as he and his family were driving back to Arizona from a holiday vacation in his native Texas. "I’m feeling physically better this year.
… I'd probably think, yeah, that sounds reasonable.
But I don't know him. He's a guy who can make me happy or angry based on how he performs at his chosen profession, which is weird when you think too much about it. So I don't. Instead, I just think, boy, that best-shape-of-his-life canard is sure silly.
It doesn't help that we watched him hit last season:
That'll calcify some opinions, alright.
The only thing the front office has given Giants fans this offseason is a basket filled with strained best-case scenarios. We have to hope that Freddy Sanchez is healthy and effective, we have to hope Buster Posey doesn't miss a beat, and we have to hope that Melky Cabrera isn't a mirage. Hope hope hope.
The Giants are big on the Crazy-Enough-That-It-Just-Might-Work Philosophy. Lucky us. Here's something I can't shake, though: Huff has messed with us before. When the Giants signed him before 2010, he was coming off a season where he was quite literally one of the least valuable players in all of baseball. The Giants signed him, he hit like vintage Fred McGriff, and the Giants won the World Series. That buys a few benefit-of-the-doubt credits, even if it isn't logically sound to hand them out.
Which is to stay that I still hold out some hope for Good Aubrey to return. Ill-advised, poorly thought out hope. But still, hope. And I can't shake it. I'll continue to laugh at the best-shape-of-his-life stories, but secretly I'll be hoping like hell that they mean something. Hoping like hell is the new Giants' way, after all. Huff went from washed up to middle-of-the-order threat before -- why couldn't he do it again? Besides all of those legitimate reasons, I mean?
I'm even occasionally willing to forget the worst-case scenario: something in between 2010 and 2011 that isn't good enough to help a team, but plenty good enough to convince Bruce Bochy that he's the team's best option. Brrrr.
If I ran the team, Huff wouldn't start. He might not even be on the team if another team was willing to pick up just $1 million of his salary. Huff is one of the most inconsistent players in baseball -- he's put up OPS+ of 137, 81, 142, and 90 over the last four years. That's absolutely schizophrenic, but it's not going to improve with age.
As long as he's here and starting, though, I might as well confess that I'm secretly holding a good thought. It's stupid, but so am I. And so is this stupid offseason.
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I will be rooting as much for Huff as anybody this season.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Rooting is part of being a fan
Even if there seems like no logical reason to have any hope, if someone’s on the team you love, you have to have some.
Alex Smith seems to have pegged the meter in losing any fan support he could possibly have except for that last impossible to kill part: He’s still on our team. And lookie dere.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html
oh jesus fuck why did you link TVTropes
by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 4, 2012 12:40 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Came up in a Google search
Is it a bad site?
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 4, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
It is a blackhole into which many have lost days.
I blame you, Grant, if we don’t hear from some MCC commentators for several days.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 4, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Common taters is not something we've had to look forward to in quite a while.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
and their tots
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
What could be greater than tots with a tater?! Tater tots.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 4, 2012 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Uh oh
I shan’t go back, I shan’t. Don’t need that kind of site.
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 4, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, no
It is the Devourer of Days, the Eraser of Hours, the Great Endless Maw of the Internet.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 4, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
possibly the one site mode addicting than McC
ranks slightly under nicotine in terms of addictiveness
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Jan 4, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
I hope there will be many more Audrey Horne gifs posted next year. On a few levels!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
As someone still making his way through the dreaded 2nd half of the second season of Twin Peaks, I heartedly agree with this request and will do my utmost to make sure this is fulfilled.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 4, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think the show ever gets unwatchable.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
The show just sticks in your head for awhile when you watch it and it never leaves. I’ve had dreams where I’ve been hanging out with Laura Palmer and others where owls just randomly show up.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 4, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
It holds up well under a second viewing, too.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
and there are some scenes so good— like the entire sequence before and after Bob kills Maddie, that I’ve watched over and over again because it’s so good
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 4, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno
I think you can make fun of people you know and like. Even in public. But they won’t like you back, not for long.
4-3
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
by jctGamer on Jan 4, 2012 12:44 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
No way.
Dave Dravecky brought it far more honor.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
by breadfan7 on Jan 5, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
True. So Huff can be the first 3 digit player (#643)
by Bar None on Jan 5, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Appropriate
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
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I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
AUBREY HUFF'S HIDDEN PENIS!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Is there a double entendre there? It seems straightforward.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Not fat / batting eye
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
/rolls testicles to second baseman to start 4-6-3 double entendre
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Part Two in Grant’s continuing: I Guess These Are The Guys I Have to Root For After All series.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 12:47 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Ack, that crappy title case is going to bug me.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
You Are Blinded By Your Anti-Title Case Bias
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
No, no. I like title case. I just can’t believe I capitalized both an article and a preposition under five letters.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
You Are Spoiling The Joke Frowny Face
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
No, no. I like the joke. I just can’t play along while my title-case woes go unexplained.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
I’m expecting something more Affeldtian.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Kegels
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 12:49 PM PST reply actions
Also
I made Hank mad yesterday by making fun of Lolbrey.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Haha how?
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
He sent out a link to his "Huff best shape of his life" article
And I responded by saying that now Huff wouldn’t be out of breath after he grounds out to 2B 3 times a game.
He called me a hater.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
haters gonna hate
analysts gonna …….
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Comb their hair ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
He wasn’t incorrect.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
The fitness routine you can do sitting down!
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
The only thing the front office has given Giants fans this offseason is a basket filled with strained best-case scenarios.
This sentence is awesome. It wraps everything up all neat and tidy like. If this sentence were Natto’s bedroom, everything would be put away in it’s proper spot.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 12:52 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Freddy Sanchez just strained his best-case scenario.
And will be out for two months.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Just in time to report!
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
You could say this about 25 or so teams in MLB, though
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 4, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
No, I could say the Diamondbacks have a more talented roster and Kevin Towers has done a good job putting together a competitive team.
I encourage you to check out Fish Stripes, Catch-28 and my twitter.
I could also say that I had a turkey sandwich for lunch, but it wouldn’t really be addressing Dingoes’ comment, either.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
by Solidarity on Jan 4, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
My point is that not all teams are as dependent on luck and hope to make the playoffs.
I encourage you to check out Fish Stripes, Catch-28 and my twitter.
You know there are more than 25 teams in the majors, yes?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
Well, the Phillies were the only real shoe-in the past season, the other teams were helped/hurt by luck.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 4, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, the point being that a vast majority of teams that are hoping to contend or improve upon their 2011 season all have weaknesses, all have things that could go wrong, and are all expecting to win based on best-case scenarios. It’s wrong to infer that this is true only of the Giants but also a failing of the Giants FO because pretty much every team is in the same boat. There are no teams in baseball right now that are completely 100% solid both hitting-wise and pitching-wise.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 4, 2012 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
He gave
tons of money to a bunch of MIs and Kubel.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Andrew Friedman signed Manny
I’m not going to hold that against him.
GM Reference Chart:
Friedman >> Beane >>>> Towers >>> Sabean >> Ed Wade
I encourage you to check out Fish Stripes, Catch-28 and my twitter.
Yeah
an one-year deal for $2 million.
This offseason, Towers signed:
Hill 2/$11 milllion
2 backup MIs:" Bloomquist 2/$3.8 million and MacDonald 2/$3 million with Blum under contract for ($1.35 M)
Kubel for 2/$15 milion
Those four signings equals $16.4 million a year for the next two years with a current payroll of $45 million.
Diamondbacks have done well but Towers basically got some bullpen guys and the remainders were players he inherited.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Good thing we’ve got our mediocre left handed relievers!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
That's ten million on a $130 million payroll
and Affeldt is a one-year deal.
They signed 3 backup MIs (with Drew starting) and Kubel who is arguably a downgrade over Parra.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Diffusing bombs?
He farted on Obama?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
I was making a defusing / diffusing crack.
As did he, it seems.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
The Giants are big on the Crazy-Enough-That-It-Just-Might-Work Philosophy
Which is just no way to go through life son. to win more titles.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I do have a problem separating the personal from the professional with players, but Aubrey Huff was so bad last year that even if he had split his salary with me and let me live in his house rent free, I’d still be pissed at him for being so shitty.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I thought he had more foul pop ups outs last year.
Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.
If I’m reading that chart correctly, one home run at PacT&T last year? Sheesh.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
This offseason is making me feel very Porcupine Tree's Anesthetize
You know, just a plain existence in a void just calling out “yep, I’m here” but all kinds of rollicking anguish to lead to that.
by Cap M on Jan 4, 2012 1:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I dig oblivious pussies.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
That’s what makes me think it is fake.
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Jan 4, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
it probably is fake. you can buy plastic props like that to decorate a house you want to sell but have already moved out of. Its not even plugged in to anything and doesn’t look that heavy when it falls.
No one here gets out alive.
True plus the tv bounces off the cat like Tracy Porter off of Marshawn Lynch (thanks Jon Bois)
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Of course.
I couldn’t figure out how to fake that without some serious skillz … but the fake real estate TVs. Of course. Yeah, that’s definitely fake. That cat would have been six square miles away before the guitar fell.
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 4, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. The cat would have freaked the fuck out.
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Jan 4, 2012 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
And what makes the guitar fall?
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 5, 2012 7:25 AM PST up reply actions
Why was the fat guy doing situps
on a wood floor in the first place…?
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Jan 4, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
There's no power cord connected to the TV!
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, this gif’s verisimilitude is waning.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Here’s the original video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hjpSZovWIU
I can’t tell if the TV is heavy or not.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
It’s vraisemblance is abating.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck you, apostrophe.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Well I dunno, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything. When my windows ’98 box died a few months ago we scrapped the cpu but the nice flat screen hoop-de-do monitor is still sitting upstairs not plugged in to anything. Only had the monitor for a year or so, not going to just throw it away [recycle it] !
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Actually, you can hear a TV playing in the background. I think he’s watching it while exercising.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
I do love the “insult to injury” guitar falling on him at the end. Then again, I’m the guy that thinks it’s hilarious in movies when the hero shoots some guy 10 times then hits him with a frying pan.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 4, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
John Cusak in Grosse Point Blank
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
I like this because the guitar falls on him just to add more insult to injury.
Hitler was a Dodgers fan.
by The Nick on Jan 5, 2012 8:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think it actually falls onto him. It’s a flaw in their production.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Nothing this team has done this offseason has made me happy.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
You know, I can’t think of anything they did that made me happy, either. There were one or two things I was neutral on, I suppose.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
They didn’t accidentally DFA Romo again.
I am happy about that.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 4, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
I was happy that they didn’t sign Yuniesky Betancourt, but I’m not so resigned as to give them credit for that.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
That would be being happy about something the team did not do this offseason, though.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
They chose Fontenot over Keppinger
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
The thing that people forget about them choosing Fontenot over Keppinger
Is that that decision necessarily meant that they were picking Burriss over Keppinger too.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I'm glad Lopez is back
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 4, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not at that price.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
This is especially true given that Bruce Bochy does not understand how platoon splits work.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
That's not true
He does understand. It’s just that for some reason that is invisible to the rest of us, he believes that platoon splits do not apply to Javier Lopez. Even though he’s one of the platoon splittiest LOOGYs that was ever platoon-y.
I am glad Bloomquist turned down Sabean's offer
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
I watched The Room.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Ah yes, saw that at the Red Vic for my first date with my now ex
It’s funny on its own, but in a live environment, it’s one of the funniest things ever.
The Room might just stand as the greatest cinematic achievement of this Millenium
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 4, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
It was amazing.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Soon, you’ll find yourself quoting the movie left and right without being even aware that you’re doing so.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 4, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Oh hi doggie!
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The Room applies to all facets of life
Me: Sabes, are you OK? What did that man want from you?
Sabean: Nothing.
Bochy: Oh, that was not nothing!
Me: Tell me everything!
Bochy: You have no idea what kind of trouble you’re in here? Do you?
Sabean: I owe him some money.
Me: What kind of money?
Sabean: I owe him some money.
Me: What kind of money?
Sabean: Everything is OK! He’s gone!
Bochy: Everything is not OK!
Sabean: Calm down! He’s DFA!
i wonder if the cool kids will ever friend me
by joseclemens on Jan 4, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
The Room has more staying power though. There is still a monthly screening in LA.
by e a on Jan 4, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Its great
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 4, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
...
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
I'm gonna go with no
And I like to think I know of what I speak. My 66 year old father is a Pilates instructor. It is more high impact than yoga but not exactly Panda-running-hills level of in-shape-getting
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 4, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
He says he’s also doing standard workouts too. The bigger question, though, is that he said a lot of last year was because his head was all messed up— something that was obvious when you watched him— and that’s not so easy to fix
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 4, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
I'm convinced.
/begins buying champagne
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The good thing about that
Even when the Giants do not win the World Series, you’ll still have champagne. The really good stuff tastes like Dodger tears.
“In victory one deserves it; In defeat one needs it.”
We are all Matt Cain's xFIP.
by Four Point Nine Eight on Jan 4, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
Really it's a can't lose.
Either Huff actually plays well or Belt plays. Well, unless someone gets hurt or Bochy decides to play Pill. OK, never mind.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Huff played last season
and it was a Can Lose. And a Did Lose, for that matter.
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Jan 4, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Org philosophy is different now.
They’ve said as much, both explicitly about Huff, and in the DFAs of Rowand and Tejada.
People are going to say “They’ll still play him,” but if Huff does not produce, he will not get 500 PAs this year.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Instead, Pill will.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Also patently untrue.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
True. I don't think Pill will get 500 ABs either
What I do think is true is that Huff will get more ABs than he should even if he is struggling. Belt will get fewer than he should, and if he struggles, he should be allowed to work out of it. He won’t be given that opportunity though.
And Pill shouldn’t be on the big league roster at all, so any ABs he gets would be too many.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Why would you say that
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Because I can
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Okay
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Probably
but I was referring more to the Huff/Belt part.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Because both Sabean and Bochy already said otherwise.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Also
Rowand not playing in August/September/October 2010.
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I distinctly recall Errant Throwing playing in Game 5.
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Ahhhh
2011.
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Actually
2010 is right.
You should also remember the on target throw in game 4 of the NLCS.
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You mean when he overthrew the cutoff man again?
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Well
I think if you asked most people here how many PAs Belt should get, they would answer somewhere around “600.”
I don’t feel confident that that’s likely to happen, simply because of the logjam. If it doesn’t come at the expense of Belt, it will come at the expense of Nate or someone else. My preference would be at the expense of Cabrera, but I don’t regard that as likely.
I expect Huff, Belt, Cabrera, and Schierlholtz will all get somewhere between 300-500 PAs, barring injury. People are going to complain about that distribution regardless.
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I think Nate will actually be the odd man out.
Defensive replacement ala 2010
Here is an easy way to think about it.
Huff will basically be 2012 version of Burrell.
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I cannot agree…Burriss Gotta Go.
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People like to use Molina as an example of a player who they were willing to cut when he didn’t perform.
But the fact is, Molina still got way more playing time than he should have, because he should have had zero playing time.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
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by GiantPain on Jan 4, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Correct
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Who also both got more playing time than they deserved.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He should have had some playing time.
Just as the back up to Posey.
Brandon Crawford: Better than overpaying for Jimmy Rollins.
No
He shouldn’t have even been on the roster. They should have had Whitey or Stewie as the backup, or if they didn’t want to put that much trust in Posey then they should have got some cheap-o vet like Greg Zaun or someone. Instead they paid Bengie like $4M, which is way too much for a backup catcher.
Didn’t they cut him loose, then sign him when no one else wanted him?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
"That ship has sailed"
Well. Had sailed.
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Yes! If the Giants didn’t make the playoffs and had held Posey down in the minors for as long as they did, there would’ve been an internet riot on this site.
Held Posey down in the minors? For as long as they did? Yes, those 172 games he played were an eternity.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Even if I were to concede that point (which I do not) he was not ‘held down in the minors’ for a long time. That is not accurate and the outrage over it would have been misplaced.
Can you name another catcher that was given a starting, every day job with 125 games of experience in the minors? I seriously have tried, and the closest I could find was Wieters, who had 169 games and was in no danger of playing in a pennant race.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
I’m waaaaaaay too lazy to actually do any research to see if there were other catchers who had less experience in the minor leagues, and although catcher is a difficult defensive position when compared to first base, there have been plenty of young players with limited minor league experience who’ve come to the majors and made an impact their first season.
Would you argue that the Giants should have kept him in AAA for the entire season instead of bringing him up since he didn’t have enough games of experience in the minors?
I advocated a partial season in Fresno at the time. I would argue that his experience was a legitimate concern and that it would not be at all controversial to want to see him play more than 35 games at AAA before handing one of the best rotations in the league over to his care.
It’s not that I think it was completely wrong to have said he was ready in spring 2010, it’s just that it was not inarguable, that he had very little experience, and that even as it turned out he still had a meteoric rise to the majors. Try to match that for awkward sentence structure!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t recall 100% but I’m hoping like hell that the reason I was annoyed was because I thought Bengie Molina was old, slow, really fat and more of a drag on the team than Aaron Rowand (AT THE TIME).
I was definitely hoping for a not-Molina to hold the fort until Buster was vetted by Decker in Fresno.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Nicely done!
Yah, I see your point, one could have argued either side of the Posey 2010 debate well, especially considering the difficulty of the pitching staff he was to work with. I mean, J Sanchez and ZitO?
I guess the biggest issue was the man, the myth, the legend who he was to replace and somehow was re-signed for 2010. I guess if the (false) choice was between Posey or BMolina, I’d of gone with unseasoned Posey.
But a requirement of being willing to cut somebody because they don’t perform is giving them the opportunity to perform so they can squander it. Whether or not he should have had that opportunity is a different problem. He could not possible have squandered zero plate appearances.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Green apples and red apples
People like to use Molina as an example of a player who they were willing to cut when he didn’t perform.
But the fact is, Molina still got way more playing time than he should have, because he should have had zero playing time.
But wasn’t Bengie coming off not-so-terrible seasons, before going in the tank in 2010? Right-or-wrong, I’d say Bengie got Bochy’s veteran benefit of the doubt in 2010 before giving way to the young replacement. It appears from the comments of Bochy, Sabean and even Huff himself in the article, that his benefit of the doubt is pretty well exhausted. I’d bet he doesn’t get 250-300 PAs all year unless he’s OPS+ing his career 114 or better.
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Remember
This is the FO that told Panda before 2011, “Get in shape or you’re going to Fresno.”
I think there is significantly less dicking around in the FO than there used to be when it comes to personnel.
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Also
Bengie hit very well in the first month of 2010.
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No
Bengie was god-awful in 2009 as well (.285 OBP). To be fair the Giants might have thought he was not so terrible, because dingerz.
It probably came down to the same reason Whiteside’s still around: handles the staff.
Catcher intangibles really screw with our FO.
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And there weren't obvious better options in 2009
Posey was still proving himself in the minors
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Also
Huff played sporadically in September and started only 11 of last 24 games.
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Crazy enough it just might work
The sun rose higher, rolling through the fog like a lost balloon. The rank sat in the shade of the giant coke bottle, waiting and killing time in their various ways. Bochy was thoughtfully probing the contents of a nostil, Buster was writing a letter home, and Sergeant Sabean was worrying.
After a while he shifted his weight uneasily and said, "I’ve fought of a problem."
"Wassat, Sarge?" said Buster.
Sergeant Sabean looked wretched. "Weeelll, what if it’s not a million-to-one chance?" he said.
Bochy stared at him.
"What d’you mean?" he said.
"Well, all right, last desperate million-to-one chances always work, right, no problem, but…well, it’s pretty wossname, specific, I mean, isn’t it?"
"You tell me," said Bochy.
"What if it’s just a thousand-to-one chance?" said Sabean, agonizedly.
"What?"
"Anyone ever heard of a thousand-to-one shot coming up?"
Buster looked up. "Don’t be daft, Sergeant," he said. "No one ever saw a thousand-to-one chance come up. The odds against it are -" his lips moved – ‘millions to one."
"Yeah. Millions," agreed Bochy.
"So it’d only work if it’s your actual million-to-one chance," said the sergeant.
"I suppose that’s right," said Bochy.
"So 999,943-to-one, for example – " Sabean began.
Buster shook his head. "Wouldn’t have a hope. No one ever said, ‘It’s a 999,943-to-one chance but it might just work.’"
They stared out across the city in the silence of ferocious mental calculation.
"We could have a real problem here," said Sabean eventually.
Shamelessly adapted from Terry Pratchett, featuring Bochy as Nobby Nobbs, Sabean as Sergeant Colon, and Buster Posey as Carrot.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Jan 4, 2012 1:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I dunno. Any ideas?
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Jan 4, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
[H]e’s put up OPS+ of 137, 81, 142, and 90 over the last four years.
Aubrey Huff is like a Star Trek movie—good in even years, bad in odd years.
I was watching the Hot Stove program last night on CSNBA
And whoever it is that is the main host pulled out the “every other year” thing as a reason Huff would be good this year. Shooty and Hank didn’t bother to tell him that was a bunch of jibbityjab.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 1:41 PM PST reply actions
Also, Shooty said that Posey needs to move to a corner infield or outfield spot.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Posey's bat is valuable
So is his defense at C and game calling. He needs to be behind the dish unless his body can no longer take it.
Blerg
Is “Shooty” the black guy in the middle with the creepy facial hair? Because he seemed like he didn’t know what the fuck he was talking about.
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That is him!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
“if I ever let him play second again, I want you to ‘Shooty’ me. " -Billy Martin
Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.
by oldjacket on Jan 4, 2012 6:44 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
WOW
Torre’s salary was 2MM a year and he left it for a “possible” partial ownership to the Dodgers? Must not have liked the job.
Blerg
Well,
It’s not like he’s hurting for cash, nor will he for job offers if the Dodgers bid doesn’t pan out.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think he already has a bunch of money
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
They are probably going to hold the position for him.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 5, 2012 7:39 AM PST up reply actions
That shit cray.
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Bottle of water and some trail mix
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
PENNANT RACIST
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously
this offseason is a lot better than any between 2005-2008.
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Should we be happy about this?
Cash rules everything around me
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Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
What really bothers me about this off-season is that I think the Giants are so close to being really good, but because of how they’ve handled their money and the decision to not sign Beltran for money reasons really frustrates me, and obviously a large portion of the Giants fans who spend time on this website talking to other people about how frustrated they are by the offseason. We’re so close to being really good, but instead we’re in let’s hope everything works out perfectly mode.
What do you consider a "large portion" of Giants fans?
Because I’m guessing people come out in the usual droves for Fanfest and tickets sell well in 2012. There’s a lot of hand-wringing going on, but I think fans will show up and be happy when opening day arrives.
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And I also think this is still a team capable of winning 90 games.
And depending on how things pan out, it may take significantly less than that to get into the playoffs.
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a lot of things would have to fall into place for the Giants to win 90 next season, but it could happen. I just wish we’d increased our odds by signing Beltran, and giving the appearance at least that Wheeler wasn’t traded for almost nothing.
The Giants won 86 with very little going right for them other than Vogelsong and Pablo, and the continued strong pitching by Tim, Matt, and the bullpen.
It’s really not that unrealistic.
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What do you mean “very little went right”? They won a ridiculous number of one-run games and had a Pythagorean win-loss of 80-82.
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A pythag that was a product of losing a month of Pablo, 4 months of Sanchez, 4.5 months of Posey, half the bullpen for varying periods, Nate for 2 months, Beltran for 2 weeks of the 8 that we had him, 6 weeks of Belt… and an unsustainably bad team average with RISP.
I’d call that pretty bad luck.
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I mean, to be fair, the Cards lost Wainwright for the entire year, so I’m not convinced we would have caught them if we’re going to play the “injury neutral” game.
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That’s true, plus they lost time from Pujols and Holliday among others.
I was more talking about going forward. Saying they were a true-talent 90 win team last year isn’t completely nuts, and I think it’s attainable in 2012, but they gotta get their shit done.
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Rough guess here
80-82 pythag
+4 to 5 wins for full season of Posey
+1 to 2 wins from Huff regression or +3 wins from full season of Belt
+1 win from full season of Freddy
+1 to 2 wins from no Tejada or Cabrera
-1 win for no Beltran
-2 wins from Vogelsong regression
-1 to 2 wins from no J. Sanchez and lots of Zito
-1 win from Lopez regression (look at those awful peripherals…)
That equals approximately 83 wins. Feel free to dispute my predictions.
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Maybe add +1 to 2 wins for improved production at center field.
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the Sanchez/Zito regression is no right
neither pitched very much last year.
Sanchez had 19 starts and had a 0.3 rWAR.
Zito was -0.6 but injured
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don’t forget Cabrera & Pagan.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 4, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
“Maybe add +1 to 2 wins for improved production at center field.”
Torres was worth two wins last year though.
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This presupposes that Vogelsong will be a half-win pitcher (2.4 fWAR in 2011 despite his numbers), Lopez will have negative value (his peripherals are actually pretty in line with his career numbers), Zito or his replacements being worth -1 or 2 wins in total, and that Belt and Huff’s production is mutually exclusive.
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I used rWAR. He was worth 3.7, so I figure he’ll be league average and get around 1.5 to 2.5 wins.
Lopez posted his 2nd best year in rWAR (and his best since 2008), despite having the same shitty peripherals. I expect he’ll be worth 0.5 wins in 2012. Maybe just replacement level…
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I don’t know why you say his peripherals are shitty. He’s been putting up the same peripherals (his aberrant ‘09 excepted) for the last few years. I’d see an argument for his BB/K biting him in the ass, but FIP still likes him fine. Obviously he will actually give up a home run or three next year, but I don’t know if that is reason to suspect a meltdown.
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4.0 BB/9 for a reliever? Awful.
5.8 K/9 for a reliever? Awful.
4.25 career xFIP isn’t good either.
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but
he has put up a 1.5 rWAR 3 out of the last 4 years.
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It turns out that rWAR is not a predictive stat.
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but my point is that he has been pretty consistent (except for a bad year in between)
his walk v. K rate has also been consistent.
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We are talking about a range of 180 innings pitched in his last four seasons…
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To be fair, part of the Pythag was based on the atrocious clutch hitting. I was surprised to realize that the 2011 team tallied ~40 fWAR, which would predict (with neutral luck) about 88 wins.
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Thar she blows.
Thanks speckops.
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My gut still pegs them in the 85-87 win range next year. Possibly because I’m a pessimist, or possibly because I don’t know if we’re going to be able to survive any injuries to the pitching.
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Fangraphs is not that bullish on Vogelsong. He could put up a 4 ERA next year and it wouldn’t hurt him that much in terms of fWAR.
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Don't we pick up some wins by not playing Rowand?
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If you credit whatever you’re going to credit Cabrera with, then yes.
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Cabrera/Pagan
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A few other thoughts
Nothing for a full season of Sandoval? Really? Sure, he might regress a bit from last year, but he did miss a really big chunk of the season with that hamate injury.
Plus, as others have said, Cabrera and Pagan over 2011 Rowand, Torres and Ross, and hopefully fit Wilson and Romo.
I also don’t think it’s that likely our 4th and 5th starter spots will overall be 3 to 4 wins worse than 2011.
by DiggingForFire on Jan 5, 2012 5:38 AM PST up reply actions
There’s no real guarantee we’ll get a full season of anybody. That’s the thing with injuries.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
That’s why this whole “Everyone is healthy and everyone will stay healthy and be really good too” thing the Giants are trying to sell feels so overpriced.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Of course not
I shouldn’t have said a ‘full season’ of Sandoval, nothing’s guaranteed. But we’re talking projections and trying to estimate wins. Yes, we can expect some injuries throughout the season, but it’s very likely Panda plays a fair bit more in 2012 than 2011. And if he bats at anything like his 2011 or 2009 level, and there’s good reason to think he might, he’ll obviously be worth something over 2011. On the balance of probabilities I do think it’s fair to estimate a win or two extra from Sandoval 2012 vs Sandoval 2011.
by DiggingForFire on Jan 6, 2012 1:38 AM PST up reply actions
Don't forget
Romo, Wilson, Lopez, Torres, Burrell, Ross.
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Semantics, but...
Rather than saying “a lot of things have to fall into place”, I think it’s more that “a lot of things have to not fall out of place” as they did last season.
I can see last year’s team winning 90 games had they not gone through injurgheddon last year. They won 86 gales last season, so it’s not hard to see all the owies costing them four wins, is it?
The numbers of injuries to key players and the way they piled on top of each other were unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Remember that stretch last year where they couldn’t bring up guys fast enough to keep up with the injuries? Crazy stuff.
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Posey by himself might have made up most if not all of that difference.
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Goofus is back to defending millionaires, I see. ;-)
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by kdl on Jan 4, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Stop being a patsy!
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They were a bit lucky
Their pythag had them at about .500.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Fair point
I can still see them winnign the division had it been a “normal” year.
People make fun of the “hope like hell” quote, but I read it more as “Hope like hell everything doesn’t go wrong like it did in 2010”, which i think we all are.
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2011
2010 turned out pretty okay.
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Yup, thanks
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but I read it more as "Hope like hell everything doesn’t go wrong like it did in 2010",
I’d love to hear your interpretation of Finnegan’s Wake then because
“We’re hoping like hell that Burriss can turn into the player we all forecasted him to be”
Does not seem anything like "Hope like hell everything doesn’t go wrong like it did in 2010"
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 5, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
We are hoping like hell that Burriss shows up as not Burriss this season!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
My interpretation of Finnegan’s Wake is that it take place in the land of dreams.
And that’s where it puts me within a page or two.
zzzzzzzZZZZzzzzzz…
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Also, as I read this again, you’re inflicted with the Calbear disease of 2011 amnesia.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 5, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
and you
amnesia disease of 2010 or TGWTWS
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:04 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
true the amount of injuries was just bizarre last year and unlucky, but the quality of play was also pretty bad when people were healthy. Losing Posey was brutal for sure.
Mixed bag. Torres, Fontenot, Huff, and Crawford, among others, had absolutely putrid BABIPs.
The Giants as a team had a .281 BABIP, which was third worst in the sport and one of the ten worst in the last five years. It was down from .293 in 2010, and .303 in 2009.
So, to some degree the luck factored into the results as well.
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Historically bad.
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I’ll go first:
…Brett Pill
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
I will give him a pass and then make terrible jokes about kids on airplanes
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
then we’ll probably need a bigger record.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Because his side will be so big. See?
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
From being fat.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
BELT!
…and then after he goes 0-for-5, he’ll be permanently banished to Fresno, and Pill starts for the rest of the year.
Yeah, pretty much this.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
According to your graph, Huff turned Triples Alley into DoublePlay Boulevard.
That in its own is almost enough for me to not want him back this year. Taking another chance on him is totally reasonable if you have nobody with a little more potential for long term improvement in the wings…
But we have Belt. He’s younger, stronger, and seems to destroy Fresno when we send him down. He’s ready for the majors, whether we want him on our team or not. Even if Huff has a good year, how many more can we reasonably expect from him, ESPECIALLY if the odd-year mojo magically had truth to it?
If Belt has a bad year that never improves over his first 13 at bats like last year, how many more chances would competent management really think he needs to improve?
If we’re going to speak in terms of hope, Belt seems to be an infinitely more sane choice.
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I think cutting Huff is stupid, since you’re basically doubling your odds for production. Nothing is guaranteeing that Belt will hit this year, and if he doesn’t, well, welcome to 2011 all over again.
Between Huff, Cabrera, and Belt, we have three guys to produce at two spots. If you cut Huff, then you need two guys to produce at two spots. Huff’s worth hanging on to, at least until he demonstrates that he’s toast.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Fine, don't cut him.
But surely he’s not the BEST option for a starting spot? Will Spring Training REALLY answer that question?
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No. He hit very well in ST last year, if you’ll recall. It’s not enough to decide.
But as I said elsehwere, I think that there’s going to have to be some juggling between Pagan, Cabrera, Schierholtz, Huff, and Belt. All you can do is try to get both bats in the lineup, and hopefully by June you’ve got it sorted who should be starting and who will be benched.
But if the Giants weren’t willing to hand the job to Belt without experience in 2011, there’s not much reason to believe they’d do it in 2013, either. I expect he’ll get at least twice as many PAs this year, though he would have gotten more last year but for the broken wrist.
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You've got a guy who still doesn't have THAT much pro ball experience
What’s wrong with him being “Plan B” at a 1B, RF and LF? As long as the Plan As aren’t allowed to suck for too long, it makes a lot more sense to have depth and contigency plans.
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If Bochy has learned anything from last year, I have no problem with that.
Unfortunately, he practically never went to his plan B with Huff until September, and by then it was too late.
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Belt’s broken arm certainly didn’t help matters. That was bad luck/bad timing. The season could’ve been a lot different just if that hadn’t happened. Who knows if Belt would’ve developed and come on strong?
Yeah. He was 2-5 with a walk and 2 Ks before he got plunked… and it’s possible that the wrist injury affected his swing, though that likely wouldn’t have saved him from swinging over changeups. Still, Huff was cold and he could have used the extra PAs.
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Well said, but...
I’d throw Nate into the mix of guys where Belt gets playing time if he fails (Melky to RF, Belt to LF)
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God I hope the White Sox go into full fire sale mode.
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Other than the Hawk Harrelson imitation. I agree.
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You mean it's not "MERCY !!
/ Dude just annoys me
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The new Jazz Hands!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
silly alexei
you are not juan uribe
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C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
They'll move intermittently between fire sale and signing players to extensions
And you’ll like it
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Belt, Brown, Hembree, Tojo, any minor leaguer
Not all of them, but I’d give up a lot.
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I don’t feel like it would take a lot.
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It’s too bad the organization has placed Brian Wilson in the same category as Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum.
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by El Person on Jan 4, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
El Person, you quietly speak so much truth so much of the time. Are you sure you’re only 18?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
No, but I am sure I’m 17.
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Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I’d trade EP for Ramirez in a heartbeat.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Gotta sign 'em early
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt CHW would trade for 7M closer during a rebuild, but your comment on the Giants’ view of him is spot on.
At this point, it seems unlikely, although Kenny Williams is unknowable
Ramirez-for-Wilson was an idea that was being kicked around during the season. At this point, I wouldn’t be totally surprised if Crawford and Hembree would get it done.
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Or even Hector Sanchez and Crawford. I don’t really like the Giants dealing arms in every deal. Their pitching depth isn’t really there anymore. Not that Henry Sosa was going to be much of anything, but they keep sending 2 for 1 and they will just run out of guys.
I’m sorry, but both Crawford+Hembree and HSanchez+Crawford are pretty ludicrous to consider unsurprising.
If Kenny Williams entertains bidding for more teams than just the Giants, and one would think he isn’t too thickheaded not to automatically do so, I feel almost any team in baseball would willingly outbid that offer.
That’s fine. I agree. I’m not really sure what takes what to get whom these days, as both free agency and the trade market are completely nutso bonkers. I think any trade for Ramirez starts with Belt. He’s their best trade chip.
Yes, probably
But that offer’s not as crazy as you seem to think. Ramirez is not especially cheap, and he’s on a four-year deal, so I don’t think teams would be willing to give up their best prospects for him.
But, yes, I don’t think Hembree-Crawford would get it done, although it’d be a lot cooler if it did.
it’d be a lot cooler if it did.
That’s what I like about these minor league prospects; I get older, they stay the same age.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
Holy mother of Christ, that’s a lot of talent. How old is Ramirez again?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Not sure if this is a rhetorical question, so I'll answer it
He’s signed through his 30-34 seasons.
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Will be 30 next year, but he’s got a sweet, sweet contract.
Alexei is signed for the next 4 seasons for 31.5 million with a club option for the 5th at 10 million.
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I move that no baseball player is allowed to be nicknamed “Tojo.”
Seriously, people.
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I get the feeling you're not going to like my nickname for young minor leaguer Pollock Potter.
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by GiantPain on Jan 4, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Haha
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
There was a pitcher named Sam Damuth.
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Sadly, A’s farmhand Nino Leyja has his name in the wrong order.
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I reject your motion.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Please, please, please,
do not use Tojo. Some of us are old enough to remember Hideki Tojo. Please?
by mrs. owlcroft on Jan 4, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
No one is until they are.
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These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 4, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
This is true.
But sometimes, I think GP just wants to make trades for the fun of trading. A real baseball team isn’ t actually Pokemon.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 4, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
They won’t respect you. Especially Charizard.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Anything that isn’t bolted down.
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We can get those bolts off, no problem.
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I don't think it's unreasonable to hope Huff will have a good year.
Since his first full year in the majors, Huff has had on OPS+ of 100 or better 7 of 10 years.
And while being in the BSOHL is certainly no guarantee of a return to 5.8 WAR glory, I’d much rather see Huff taking what seems like good steps towards getting back on track than not. It didn’t hurt Panda last offseason, anyway.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
This camp.
I am in it.
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Oh don’t worry, once Matt Cain loses his 10 1-0 ball game this season…We’ll all want belts.
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Matt Cain haz a sad
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I was at that game. It was awful as awful can be. Matt stopped and signed autographs after the game, though, because he is just that kind of guy.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 4, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
“Dear KDL. Sorry for blowing that game. Your hair looks nice.
-Matt Cain”
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Mayor of Smug.
I lol’d. He totally would apologize like it was his fault, though.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 4, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
And because they were men enough to accept that responsibility. Even though it wasn’t fair.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Losing 2-1 or 3-2 because of a crappy offense is one thing. Losing on an unearned run is a whole different level of hell.
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This is so appropriate....
FIELDING
E: A Huff (2, ground ball)
DP: 2 (F Sanchez-E Renteria-A Huff 2).
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Right? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a worse offensive performance by a baseball team than the Giants that day.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 4, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
STAR WARS THREAD
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I am pretty sure that's the one.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
YEP
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
That thread was awesome.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
/still pissed I was left out
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don’t worry, this coming season promises to offer many more chances to be manically depressed.
Maybe it will be a LotR trilogy this time.
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OO! OO! Just got 'em on Blu Ray.
Will happily report.
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I think I just found a new level of geekiness.
I just reread that thread. All of it.
And I enjoyed it.
Interesting to note the doom/gloom that was early 2010. It is amazing how much a few mid season pickups changed the outcome of 2010. What a thin line there is between 2010 and 2011 if a few subs had worked out, or Beltran had been Beltran on arrival.
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I’m thinking something along the lines of this:
the worst-case scenario: something in between 2010 and 2011 that isn’t good enough to help a team, but plenty good enough to convince Bruce Bochy that he’s the team’s best option.
Also, remember that Tejada was in the BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE last season.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
And while being in the BSOHL is certainly no guarantee of a return to 5.8 WAR glory, I’d much rather see Huff taking what seems like good steps towards getting back on track than not.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
What is your point? The original poster considers Huff getting in better shape “good steps towards getting back on track”.
Even Huff disputes the idea he was out of playing shape last season:
“I don’t think I was that out of shape. I was just so mentally in the toilet. I just never turned it around. It just kept snowballing.”
The facts support this: he played in the most games(150) of anyone on the team, and he avoided the DL during a season where every other player hadn’t.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
"I think I’m preparing a lot better this offseason as far as Pilates," Huff said as he and his family were driving back to Arizona from a holiday vacation in his native Texas. "I’m feeling physically better this year."
Just because he didn’t go to the DL doesn’t mean he was in perfect health. In the same interview, he refers to back soreness and other issues that could affect performance.
Good habits are good habits.
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Wasn't there a discussion in June
that he was gassed?
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In 2010, I recall him saying something about what a good thing it was to have the all star break to rest a little, because he was running on fumes. And that was 2010.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, this is the thing I remember. Not exactly what I said, but in the ballpark.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-07-06/sports/21939149_1_buster-posey-wild-pitch-run
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Awww, this paragraph makes me sad and lol at the same time
Singles by Posey and Ishikawa began the seventh. After pinch-bunter Edgar Renteria failed with a foul pop and Andres Torres walked to load the bases, the Giants got a rare catastrophic mistake by an opponent when shortstop Alcides Escobar flubbed a Freddy Sanchez double-play ball that would have ended the inning.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, and that is why I predict improvement. But he wasn’t so out of shape, 300 lbs or something, that it prevented him from hitting well. He’s a professional baseball player who plays first base. That doesn’t require you to be in super shape.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I would imagine that a sore back would interfere with you hitting a baseball, especially bat speed and power due to rotational force.
Hmmmmmmmm…
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Hello Todd Helton!
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Every player gets sore and dinged up over the course of a season.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Have you ever had problems with your back, out of curiosity?
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
And I played three sports in high school.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Well, my experience with back problems must not align with yours.
I have also played sports at places and times. We can be in a club.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
I’m going to hit you with a club of imagination.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
That would definitely help my back.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
You had a bad back in high school?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
At times, yes. I was a big weight lifter/gym type. I over did it sometimes. My back got really hurt one time when I got sacked playing QB
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Not to challenge you pain. But there’s a big difference between an 18-year-old straining his back/pulling a muscle and the kind of chronic nerve compression/near debilitation adults are usually talking about when they have a “sore back.”
And I say this as somebody who has experienced both.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 4, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
I was going to say exactly the same thing.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
*including the typo
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, my father has this. It seems to be really bad at times.
If Huff has this kind of problem, why did the Giants re-sign him to a $22 million dollar contract? How the hell could he play 150 games with that kind of problem?
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
Because it was the reasonable thing to do.
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Trolling?
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
No
because the contract was reasonable and short.
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Apparently you like the Giants signing chronically injured players.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
I thought he wasn’t injured, just old and sluggish.
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LOL Look up thread.
I’m not. I’m responding to a hypothesis.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Huff
is clearly chronically injured since he played at least 130 games a year since 2003 and 150 games a year since 2007.
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READ THE THREAD
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Which part? The part where you call him chronically injured and unfit to play, or the part where you call him not injured, or the part where you call him injured but not to the point where it should affect him?
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How about the part where
he had a 4.5 oWAR in 2010?
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I don’t want to oversell the stuff I’ve experienced with my back. I threw it out several times doing, well, not very much. But I couldn’t do much physically for a couple days each time. I do not really want to know what anything worse than that would be like.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
How about a line of electric fire-pain that runs down the back of your leg at varying intensities for a year and a half?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
I do not really want to know what that would be like, no.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
Amateurs...
Four herniated discs, three repaired. Diagnosed when I was in my early 20"s. Sports, car and motorcycle accidents, life. At 22, (1982) they suggested fusion. My friend was the sports medicine director at ASU. He suggested , chiropractic, ultrasound muscle therapy, etc, and waiting for the technology to advance. It worked for a little over twenty years. At age 42, I was sleeping about two hours a night and could not really feel my legs below my knees. You how it feels when you get a foot cramp, yeah that was my life.
Had the surgery in 2002. Microdiscectomy on L4,L5 and L6. The damage on L3 kind of worked itself out after the other three were corrected. It worked very well so far. When what remains of the discs wear out, I’m hoping the artificial disc technology has been perfected.
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Link fail
http://www.spine-health.com/video/microdiscectomy-lumbar-microdecompression-spine-surgery-video
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If Huff was injured, why did Bochy keep sending him out there?
Huff isn’t claiming his massive struggles were a result of back pain. So we shouldn’t assume it was.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
He cited back pain as an issue. And it was reported during the season.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
It was an issue, yes. But not to the degree that it prevented him from playing 150 games.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
First of all, with everyone else injured, Huff often didn’t have a much of a choice. There was something like 12 weeks, or half the season, where Belt wasn’t even with the team. And they were in a pennant race.
Kirk Manwaring played half a season behind the plate with five broken ribs. Athletes do this kind of shit all the time.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
It is true that Belt was injured for a part of the season, and Pill didn’t get called up until later.
But if a player is unproductive because he’s injured, he should go on the DL so he can get rest regardless of roster depth. Anyways, he wasn’t really injured because he played 150 games. Todd Helton has visible back problems. I saw none of that from Huff. He just looked old and sluggish.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Anyways, he wasn’t really injured because he played 150 games . . . He just looked old and sluggish.
I cannot properly elucidate how big a logical fallacy this is.
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I cannot properly elucidate how big a logical fallacy this is.
That was a very pretty statement.
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Although, if we wanted, we could put a name to the fallacy. It’s called affirming the consequent.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Jan 4, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
/ man, I really need to work on my writing skills.
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/sticks that one in his back pocket
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/and uses the other one to hail a taxi cab
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Then it’s probably best you not respond at all.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
It’s never stopped me before.
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UNPACK THIS
/grabs crotch
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I thought I heard you say it was a big phallus and came over to have a look
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So if it was mental, what has changed, other than his teammates maybe being healthy? He’s still got Belt breathing down his neck for the 1B job.
He’s gonna get paid regardless, I’m not sure whether he’s motivated enough to fight off the kids behind him.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Personal/professional pride
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More stuff to Hope Like Hell about. I mean, if he wasn’t embarrassed enough to get his shit together last year, when would he be?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
No
It’s not hope it’s just realistic. If he doesn’t do well, DFA’ing and trading are viable options.
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Who would want to trade for Aubrey Huff?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
maybe the Rays
Giants would have to eat about 60% of the contract though
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Jan 4, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
If he hits okay
I can see him being traded to an AL team as a DH.
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Eating of salary required of course
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Well if he were hitting “ok” this coming season, I don’t think the Giants would be looking at trading him. So if he were to be playing terribly, I think he would be basically untradeable.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
This.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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I’m not sure it’s realistic because it’s not that different from where he was out of ST last season, and he didn’t deal with it well. But yeah, if he fails, I believe the team will respond appropriately.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
It's realistic
because that’s basically all you can do with a player with a contract. One of the dangers of giving a player a long term contract (much more prevalent in the NBA).
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"I’ve got to go to spring training and prove myself and basically win a job, because I’ve got two young kids breathing down my neck."
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
LOL 27 year old kid.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but last year he lost his job to Belt, was moved to the OF and flailed miserably. He only kept his job because Ross came off the DL and they could send down the guy with options.
All that was before Buster and Freddy and Burrell got injured, so he was only expected to carry his own usual load. All that crap Bochy talked about him putting extra pressure on himself from injuries wasn’t even in play yet.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I posted yesterday
about how Huff and Belt had equally bad April, Huff had a horrible May which resulted in the call up of Belt (who then broke his hand), Huff then played pretty well in June (near .800 OPS) and then sucked again in July but played okay in August (mid .750 OPS). He had two horrible months (May and July) but the Giants didn’t really have any options to replace him.
Bochy basically sat him in September (when he was back again).
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Huff hit very well in ST. To say he “lost” his job to Belt isn’t really fair; Belt was playing first base because they wanted him to be comfortable.
Also, you need to remember that Huff’s futility in the outfield, while partially owing to his own shortcomings, was also partially a product of especially bad distribution of fly balls just outside his range. Huff also started slow in 2010, so it’s not like the Giants hadn’t seen this before. Huff was in no danger of losing his job, just of getting further humiliated in the outfield or moving to the bench. Belt wasn’t exactly setting the world on fire, either.
There were a lot of factors at work last year in making Huff’s forgettable season. Writing off his commitment based on poor play simply doesn’t make sense.
How come Pablo never turned it around in 2010? Seasons may be arbitrary endpoints, but they’re not arbitrary to players. Having those months to get themselves right makes a big difference.
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Again, with Cody coming off the DL. There were no other real choices to demote than Belt.
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Preachin' to the choir.
In my case, at least.
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I almost want to re-ignite this debate, but no… I don’t.
I encourage you to check out Fish Stripes, Catch-28 and my twitter.
Man, I totally missed the entire debate
I posted, then I spent most of the last hour and 45 minutes looking at the animated sports gifs
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
Tejada =/= Huff
Tejada was 37, Huff will be 35, which actually is significant in baseball hitting productivity tendencies. I posted something last April about why I thought Tejada was on his last legs. But I don’t think 35-year old first basemen have anywhere near the kind of dropoff tendencies that 37-year old shortstops have had.
Again, I think the fact that Huff has had good hitting seasons 7 of 10 years indicates that his having another good hitting season is not an unreasonable expectation (or hope). And I don’t see why his getting in better condition is a bad thing.
I know we’re all scoffing at the Brian Sabean “hope like hell” approach right now, but as much as hoping Emmanuel Burriss has a great season is a ridiculous thing, I don’t think it’s nearly as weird to think Huff might bounce back.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
I went through Huff’s top 10 B-R comps by age, and looked at their numbers.
Something like 8 of the 10 of them put up 2-3+ win seasons after age 35.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I was going to say that I would be satisfied if Huff put up 2010 Burrell number
but Burrell was really good in 2010.
I will be content if Huff puts up Burrell level numbers.
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In their age 36 season or at any point after age 35?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Any point after age 34, really.
Huff turned 35 last month.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I guess what I’m getting at is wondering whether “8 out of 10 of them put up 2-3+ win seasons” means whether out of the 20+ player seasons that they collectively had after age 35 that 8 out of the 10 had a single 2-3+ win seasons, or whether 8 out of the 10 had that season immediately after age 35. The former obviously indicates a lower probability of a bounceback.
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I guess it’s probably the former, though.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Looking at it again… There were two who continued to be good through the age of 35 (Torii Hunter and Dusty Baker), five who had one down year around the age of 34, and a rebound like the next year (George Hendrick, Willie Horton, Cliff Floyd, Jermaine Dye, Ruben Sierra), two who never recovered (Don Baylor and Bobby Thompson), and one who never played an age 35 season (Jose Guillen).
I think I looked this up in response to someone scoffing at the idea of Huff having a “type” or comparable players, and how he should be weighed against the decline curve based on age. So, take what you will from it.
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Answer
get Huff some toothpicks and wrist bands.
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And change the spelling to Aubrii
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Chance at 140 OPS
Drools.
…
…
Plays Huff 150 games.
Profit
Bye Travis and thanks for 2010! Good luck with the Brewers!
I believe that is OPS+
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
I prefer to think..
..it is what I would OPS in the major leagues.
by wcw on Jan 4, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
So yeah, I actually asked myself if that graphic was real...
#shouldhavebeenobvious
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
Not real
Too many blue dots
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Jan 4, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Should have been more yellow dots in the batters box.
Or wherever Bochy was standing in the dugout.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmmm
The Marlins are close to acquiring Carlos Zambrano from the Cubs, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Zambrano would need to waive his no-trade clause for the teams to complete the deal, but he would presumably be open to playing for friend and fellow Venezuelan Ozzie Guillen.
18 M this year and a possible vesting interest of 19.3M next year.
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The Marlins will be fun to watch.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 4, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Read how the option vests
It’s not happening
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...
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Not a loafer
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
All Venezuelans love each other and want to play together right?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 4, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
There's something to be said about this
in both respects. Maybe it’s a cultural cliche and maybe it’s a weird truth that’s tied into some genuine patriotism or fish out of water… ness?
Rec'd
/Goes to see what Man U did.
HOLY SHIT FUCK YEAH MAGPIES.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
Man, that’s pretty bad. Three – nil.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 4, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
"he was coming off a season where he was quite literally one of the least valuable players in all of baseball"
Brian Giles-N/A
Alex Rios- Rumored to be traded for Lincecum
Gary Matthews- Rumored Free agent signing in the past
Yuni Betancourt- were in the running to signin him this year
Jose Guillen- gott’em then lost’em
Aubrey Huff- 10 million this year? thank you sir may I have another!
Of the top 6 worst players in 2009 the Giants have been linked to at least 4 maybe even 5 of them!!! Who said Sabean was an Idiot? clearly he is a just a second. third chance giver!
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
/starts a rumor
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Don't forget Juan Pierre!
and Willie Blooquist and all the terrible players he did sign or acquire like Aaron Rowand, Miguel Tejada, and Orlando Cabrera
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The Giants were never formally linked to Yuniesky, AFAIK. Nor Gary Matthews.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Also
Rios for Lincecum was not a crazy proposition at the time. Sabean also didn’t approve the trade.
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It was and always will be crazy
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Via the Oakland Tribune in 2006 about the Zito signing
Spurned in their overtures to sign Alfonso Soriano, Carlos Lee and Gary Matthews Jr., the Giants outbid Texas, Seattle and the New York Mets.
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From an ESPN article on the matter
ANAHEIM, Calif. — Gary Matthews Jr. had a tough decision, choosing between the Los Angeles Angels and San Francisco Giants.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2672448
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To be fair, it looks like the source for that was his agent.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
So conceded.
Definitely not Yuni, though.
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Yah you're right on Yuni
That was more just us around here looking at the most LOLworthy scenario
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Yeah. Same with Coco Crisp.
The actual SS pursuit was Alex Gonzalez, which was pretty predictable and honestly a bit more reasonable than Yuni. I mean, the Brewers resigned him so they wouldn’t have to bring back Yuni.
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Posey
Been looking at old scouting reports, fapping at his college numbers (400+ ISO on top of 400+ BA)
His slugging went down 125 points last year but he still had 1.6 fWAR in 45 games.
I hope he is healthy, he just might put up a monster year. Same with Panda.
Side note, interesting looking at top 100 prospects in 2007 Funny who was before and after Tim. Alex Gordon was second on this list, but his first great year was last year. After 24 and 26 (Kershaw and Braun) there are fewer people I recognize at all.
Blerg
My buddy Jake is 6 spots ahead of Votto
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OT: Remember that conversation we all had about ISPs, content producers and MLB and its stagnancy
And how all of this was in the far distant future, and how digital streaming is still just a fraction of the population?
THE FUTURE IS NOW
Apparently Netflix is the 15th most watched network in the US.
Dan Szymborski’s take on insider espn. Does a great job of summing it up.
17. San Francisco Giants
In my opinion, no team has had a worse offseason than the Giants. With a team that just missed the playoffs and its weakest positions being almost custom-fit for some of the biggest players available in the market, San Francisco passed on Jose Reyes with barely a raised eyebrow and showed almost no interest in bringing back Carlos Beltran or pursuing Jimmy Rollins. Sure, Melky Cabrera is a better hitter than Aaron Rowand, but he’s a defensive liability in center and has nowhere near the potential with the bat that Brandon Belt would have in left.
The Giants also have made little progress on the Matt Cain extension, though I guess they did have time to put in a bid for Willie Bloomquist. With most of the players that would really help the Giants’ offense gone, don’t expect much of significance to happen in January.
What a complete lack of understanding about this organization.
And for someone who’s labeled an “insider” he sure does have the outsider’s view. The only people who know anything about the Giants’ motives and how amazing they are going to be next year are the people in the front office. All of us who are prognosticating and analyzing facts and comments and even posting to a worldwide leader in sports are just spinning our wheels.
Espn insider is just the name of the pay to read part of the website. He’s not calling himself an insider by any means, and his analysis of the Giants’ offseason doesn’t go into the motives behind the moves, probably because they’re nonsensical to begin with. It’s pretty clear that middle of the order hitter and shortstop were the two biggest holes on the Giants roster, and they still are to a certain degree (I’d say that having a 3-4-5 of Pablo Posey Belt isn’t half bad though, although Pablo Beltran Posey Belt looks a lot more awesomer).
What else are we supposed to do during the offseason? Our jobs?
The Giants had a lot of bad luck this year. Since the law of averages will shield them from bad luck this year, they will be better in every way and have no glaring weaknesses heading into 2012, making that particular ’insider’’s observations completely invalid and utterly clueless.
I know you're just opening the chasm here, but
while they are in no way shielded from more bad luck, they are extremely unlikely to be this unlucky again.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Um, no,
that’s not how “luck” works.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
by Tortured on Jan 4, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, it is. The odds of them being this unlucky in successive seasons are very low.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
They're just as likely this season to be as unlucky as they were last season.
The two events are not connected.
Sundrendy!
And last season’s misfortunes were pretty fucking unlikely.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Couldn’t I look at it like it’s more unlikely that a team will defy regression toward the mean for 324 games than it is that they would do it for 162? Do I have to count the seasons as separate events? And are they really not connected?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
(these are actual questions from a mathtard)
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
There was an interesting “seasons as arbitrary endpoints” discussion on I think Beyond the Box Score. And I would side with those who argued that while they are arbitrary after a fashion (as all endpoints are), the intervening period of the offseason does give them some context. You can look at them as trends, certainly, but they do have value as separate nuggets of data.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Hasn't that point already made using the magic Huff as an example?
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/seasons-are-arbitrary-endpoints/
But I’d feel a lot more comfortable thinking that seasons are distinct endpoints, than clumping multiple seasons together, with the assorted myriad of player changes etc. Also over 324 games, what’s a players true talent level? Is it what it was in game 1 age 31 or in game 324 age 33?
Sundrendy!
In 2010 Huff was Magic
But in 2011 I was all, “HUFF, THE MAGIC’S DRAGGIN”
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
They are really not connected
If it were the beginning of 2011, it would be more unlikely for the team to be worse than expected for 324 games than for 162 games. But now since those first 162 games have already gone poorly, the odds that this next 162 will go equally as poorly have not changed. They remain the same.
Yeah
but the season is a collection of coin flips. Giants kept coming up with a crappy result so the cumulative odds of it happening again this year is very low.
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I thought that one was a bit overlong
I preferred Waiting for Godot myself.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Really?
Wow. I thought Waiting for Godot was insufferable. I got the point after about five minutes and then it wouldn’t end. At least Rosencrantz and Guildenstern was entertaining.
Bad performance (or direction) is not something WFG can survive.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 6, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
And EP is right; “Waiting for Godot” (the play which partially inspired R&G) is better, if less relevant to the discussion.
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LOL LOL LOL
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lolololololol
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It’s not a 50/50 proposition. The shittiness of 2011 is well outside of a standard deviation.
It’s more like rolling a D20 twice, landing on 1 both times, and then doing it again.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
It was unlikely the first time. It is equally unlikely the second time.
It is still unlikely.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Right
but not because it happened last year, which was what
they are extremely unlikely to be this unlucky again
sounded like to me.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I misread your original post
Yes, just as likely to happen this year as the last.
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If the two DID happen in sequence, it would be very unlikely. HOWEVER, those odds do not shield us from it happening again any more than usual. If it was a 1% chance last year, it’s a 1% chance this year, and the odds of 2-100 are very much in our favor.
The .01% of it happening twice in succession is just statistical bleeps and bloops.
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This
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I did not mean to suggest that the prior outcome informed the future outcome, if that’s where the bone of contention is.
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Don’t worry, Calbear is taking care of that.
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That 2011 was stupidly unlikely. Having it not improve is almost equally unlikely. Ergo, some measure of regression is highly likely.
In other words, between “2011 Part Deux” and “the field,” I’ll take the field.
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Yes, since there still seems to be some debate about this point.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
It seems so simple, and yet...
You banged your head against that wall for an admirably long time.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 5, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
Question, which is more stupidly unlikely?
A) The 2011 Giants go 86-76.
B) TGWTWS in 2010.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Heh
Thus why I chose 1 instead of 20.
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I think it's more like the rolled snake ryrs last season, which was unlikely
Rolling snake eyes again is equally unlikely
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Gamblers fallacy.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
reed thred plz
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Except
Melky is not playing CF.
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Yeah. If you read the quote more closely, what he’s saying is that his defensive capabilities in CF aren’t strong enough for him to play there, and yet his bat in LF is less valuable than Belt’s bat. Ie where the hell do you play him and get value from him?
Traaaaaaaaade hiiiiiiiiiiiim
It’s really the best the Giants can hope to do. That, or use him as a 4th OF, though he’s too pricey to be that.
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So we wont have anybody playing at shortstop?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
We should trade him for Jonathan Sanchez
He has some upside and we can’t really depend on Zito as a 5th starter
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Play Belt at 1B
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Toon Army had a great game against us the other day. Congrats.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Liverpool or Man U?
If the former, I hate Craig Bellamy. If the latter, I still hate Craig Bellamy.
Sundrendy!
The Red Devils. I also strongly dislike that Welsh punk.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I missed the game thankfully. I was flying back from vacation in Europe. Newcastle is pretty good this year.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Go anywhere nice?
We’re doing quite well, in spite of ourselves. We’ll be shit now the African Cup of Nations players are gone though. No depth up front or in midfield, or in defence…
Sundrendy!
Just visiting some family in Paris and Milan, with the wife and kid.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Hard Knock life?
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Where in Wales are you? Snowdonia is beautiful.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
That’s dangerously near the real Welsh people, I live in Cardiff, where there are sufficient English people to keep things tolerable
Sundrendy!
I haven’t been to Cardiff, yet. I went to Snowdonia years ago for a week long IGCSE Geography field trip.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
It's alright really
There’s a lot of Dr Who, which seems to please many Americans. I passed several posing with a Dalek today.
Lots of Wales is very very beautiful and very, very deprived.
Sundrendy!
It is a celebrity!
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by CalBear949 on Jan 4, 2012 6:49 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
what did i miss today
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I think in Jponry
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omg this is the greatest thing ever
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Pilates
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
This
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 7m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Source: #Cubs paying between $15M and $16M of $18M that Zambrano is due. Volstad going from #Marlins to Cubs. MORE #MLB
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Not sure if that's a good or bad deal.
I guess it depends on which Zambrano shows up.
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Yeah, Volstad is hardly a world destroyer, but at least they’re getting something marginally useful for whatever is left of Zambrano.
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Did Zambrano have mental issue when he was younger?
cuz I have a dread in light of the Lincecum extension discussion.
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I don't know
just before he signed the big contract.
The guy put up rWARs of 4.6, 5.5, 5.0, 4.2, and 2.9 between 2003-2007. He then signs a 5 year/91.5 million extension in 2007…
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The guy put up rWARs of 4.6, 5.5, 5.0, 4.2, and 2.9 between 2003-2007. He then signs a 5 year/91.5 million extension in 2007…
Hurray for perpetuating the contract myth!
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It is not a comment about the effects of long term contracts on a player. Just how a good player can go south.
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 6:59 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Then why even mention that he signed a big contract?
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because it is similar situation that the Giants have with Timmy
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 8:01 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I’d totally take Zambrano for $2 MM. I suppose it might even be less than that, depending on how much they were going to pay Volstad.
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I’d almost certainly rather send him up to PH than Burriss.
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Manny Burriss career: .250/.311/.281, 64 wRC+
Zambrano: .241/.251/.395, 59 wRC+
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Their ISOs are depressing
Burriss: .031
Zambrano: .154
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Jan 4, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
As I said, I’d rather send up Zambrano than Burriss.
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I totally agree. One guy has a chance to hit the ball out of the ballpark. The other has a chance to hit the ball past the pitcher.
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Jan 4, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure how much the Marlins are paying him, but it’s good value.
I just think it’s more of a clubhouse culture move than a value maximization move. It’s like a crap-for-crap trade, except they didn’t get crap in return.
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Probably. And who knows, maybe Ozzie will be able to keep him under control.
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Ozzie might be one of the few guys in the majors who could out crazy Zambrano.
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Morgan is an asscannon.
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I now have a mental image of him shooting cannonballs out of his rear.
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+1
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
good
but maybe one of the reenactors could be Zito
by wcw on Jan 4, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe peeking out of the tall grass. Watching as always.
by wcw on Jan 4, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
$2 milllion
minus the league minimum for Volstad.
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No, he’s going to be arb eligible.
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so basically even.
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https://twitter.com/#!/JCRMarlinsbeat/status/154723150226137088
@JCRMarlinsBeat Deal not finalized, but #Marlins have agreed to pick up just $2.5 million of Zambrano’s $18 million 2012 salary. #Cubs
I don't get it
The Marlins trade a pitcher who has a 4.89 ERA, 2.7 BB/9, and 6.4 K/9 last season, plus three years of team control left… for a pitcher with a 4.82 ERA, 3.5 BB/9, and 6.2 K/9 last season, with one year of team control left.
I know Zambrano has better career numbers… but he’s not that good still.
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It's a win now deal.
but yeah…kinda of a bad deal.
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The Marlins FO is kind of crap.
It’s not like it takes a genius to sign Jose Reyes and Mark Buehrle, especially when the money’s burning a hole in your pocket.
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Don’t forget the atrocious Heath Bell signing.
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They do avoid Volstad’s arb increases, however, and Zambrano is a FA after the year. If they’re just trying to make a splash for 2012 to open their new park, then they’ll need to be ready to get frugal fast.
Again, they basically get a free Zambrano. I would totally take a free Zambrano.
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Except
you are assume that Volstad will not be any good the next 3 years.
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"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
Did he get cut by a sliding baserunner
as he tweeted?
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He's Ned Flanders with his tax return!
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Hoping like hell for a big return from my taxes. BS
Well then
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please go on
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by operation carrot on Jan 4, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
"Speaking of going deep in the hole..."
“…how ‘bout Crawford’s range?”
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I actually think I will enjoy watching it happen, too.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
You don’t have to be.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently, Ben screwed up his ankle again this last weekend.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Tebow willed it.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jan 4, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
If the Steelers don't have a quarterback
That makes the teams equal on that front. And the rest of the Steelers is better than the rest of the Broncos.
I have a friend who is a Steelers fan. Either way, I will be deliciously pleased with the outcome of this game.
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That's where I'm at.
But, since I think Steelers fans would be more aggrieved by a first-round loss than would Broncos fans, I shall throw in my lot with the Tebows.*
Most of my rooting decisions are based upon the amount of misery a loss would cause each team weighted against the obnoxiousness of the respective fanbases.
*That Star Wars thread reminds me that I used to have a Tebow quote in my sig:
“I was jacked leaving that room. I didn’t even want to visit another room. It was not enough time,” Tebow said. “We were excited, we were enthusiastic. There was passion. It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.”PASSIONATELY INTENSE AWESOME BALL JUICE
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
Where is that originally from? Some of his prison work?
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LOL.
Nothing so Tebowian. It’s from after his meeting with Josh McDaniels after being drafted.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Which team would the 49ers prefer to face in the playoffs?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 5:38 PM PST reply actions
The not-Saints
Probably the Giants, but that would require the Saints losing to the Lions, or the Packers losing to the Giants, in which case they probably have bigger problems anyway.
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by Solidarity on Jan 4, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
that Giants pass rush looked pretty daunting Sunday night
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Agreed. Though my logic is a bit more flawed:
SF beat both the Lions and the Giants once before, but recent weeks make me fear the Giants more than the Lions.
However, yeah, of the wild card teams, I fear New Orleans the most.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
The Broncos.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
I have extended family that are HUGE Bronco fans.
It would give me no small pleasure to see the best defense in the NFL shut Tebow and the rest of those assclowns DOWN.
Now if we can just beat Green Bay or New Orleans and have someone else remove the other one of those two…
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Yeah, I’m rrrreally conflicted. I hate the Steelers, but I also hate the Tebows….
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I can see it now. Broncos win, 14-0 on two pick-sixes. Tebow throws 2 for 14, 4 yards, 0 TD and 2 INT. He runs for 8 yards and the headline will be “Tebow wins again”
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by SFGuy on Jan 4, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
All I care about is that the Ravens do not have to face the Steelers again. No matter how hurt they are, beating a team three times in a season is hard.
Why? That strikes me as a gambler’s fallacy.
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How? You’re both more familiar with each others’ system. I don’t see how that would necessarily confer an advantage on the twice-beaten team.
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People always say this
But I’m fairly certain that the record of the team that was 2-0 before is pretty damn good in game 3.
I'd love to play the Falcons
But I really doubt the Lions beat the Saints in New Orleans
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The reason I ask
I was thinking about it earlier today and all 4 of those teams seem like they could be a difficult matchup.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
I don't find the Falcons to be that difficult
Turner wouldn’t be able to run on us so we’d just have to keep Julio Jones from making big plays. Matt Ryan doesn’t really scare me.
And the Falcons D is pretty ordinary.
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I think the Falcons would be pretty simple as well, myself.
They really don’t have a very good defense.
It would be pretty crazy to have to go through New Orleans, Green Bay, and New England. That run would pretty much fix in me an irrational belief that this defense is the best defense of all time in any sport.
That would be fun to watch.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Well, fun might not be the right word, exactly.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Stafford put up 5,000 yards this year, too.
It’s been a crazy season.
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Alex Smith threw for over 3,000 yards. That should tell you everything you need to know about yard inflation.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
But yeah, two rookies over 3,000. One over 4,000. Three quarterbacks over 5,000. And Alex Smith over 3,000.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
There was a chart on ESPN.com the other day showing that he had pretty similar numbers this year to Joe Montana in 1981, so yeah.
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Though if I recall correctly, Brees still posted better numbers over the rest of the league than Marino did. YPG+, as it were.
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Brees’s counting stats, and those rates which don’t correct for them (like Y/G, since a high number of total attempts is not accounted for by breaking things up by game) are unmatched.
I believe Marino’s year was still better by rates. Manning’s 2004 might trump them all, though.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
Rates as in Y/A and Y/C?
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Yards per attempt (adjusted, if you like), TD%, INT%, Comp%. Those are the four I always go to because they’re so easy to look at relative to league at pro-football-reference.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
And don’t get me wrong. Brees had an extraordinary year. That he threw the ball almost 100 more times than Marino did in 1984 is just extra fun for admirers of both seasons. That’s basically two to three extra games.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. I love Brees, but I am not invested to the point where I’d argue who’s better. Especially since I wasn’t alive for Marino’s season. Just curious as to what you were looking at.
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Heck, at that point why even choose?
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
One could clearly make the case, for instance, that simply being asked to throw the ball 100 more times reflects even better on Brees, with a carrying the load kind of argument. How much better would his rates have been if his need to throw had been more selective?
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Also
His increased number of attempts is in part a measure of success. His completion percentage was significantly higher than Marino’s 1984 (71 vs 64). A higher completion percentage implies greater third-down success, implies longer possessions. But mostly it’s just a different style of offense. Marino threw a lot of deep balls with great success; Brees works it down the field in 10-12 plays. The latter strategy needs more throws.
That kept coming up at NN earlier in the year, but i haven’t seen it in a while.
But just for giggles. All + numbers. One is Montana. One is Smith.
Comp%: 127 / 103
AY/A: 116 / 108
TD%: 96 / 95
INT%: 126 / 127
Probably a better comp than it should be. Of course, Montana was 25 and starting his first full season.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Younger than Brandon Wheedon!
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Yup.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
He’s only had two in his career.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
49ers go to all three places in 2012.
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It’s going to be more challenging to get to 13-3, perhaps.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
That would be awesome to watch, assuming success of course. And if they did that, and were able to contain those offenses, I would say they are hands down the best defense of all time.
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Very true
Saints – bad road team, no D, BUT Brees
Giants – no run game, beat them before BUT deep threats abound
Falcons – bad D, relies heavily on the run, BUT White/Jones are nasty
Detroit – we won’t play them unless it’s in the NFC champ game in SF…
Ultra-projectable
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Jan 4, 2012 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
It's not just that the Niners beat the Giants before.
But they beat the Giants on the road.
Flip that field advantage and I think the Niners win handily.
Wasn’t that game at Candlestick?
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huh?
If you are talking about this season, the Giants played at Candlestick.
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Based on what I’ve been hearing on the radio lately, the only team the 49ers can’t beat in this years playoffs is themself.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 4, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, yeah? WE’LL SEE ABOUT THAT!
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Wait, what?
The Warriors signed Nate Robinson?
LET THERE BE DUNKS
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BLEEGH
Top 40 Division Series moments on MLB Network. Between 32-40: three Giants moments. All three Giants losses. 1997 vs. the Marlins. Roberto Hernandez gave up a game winning hit. Benny Agbayani walk off homer and Pudge Rodriguez game winning hit off of Tim Worrell.
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Lincecum's game 1 should be on that list.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Especially given how new the Divsion Series is.
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Giants applauding Bobby Cox was number 20
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Carpenter's shutout last season was on the list
Lincecum’s performance was better.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
ESPN’s number one is number five: the Jeter flip vs. Oakland.
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Lincecum is going to get left out
Halladay’s no hitter is number 4
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
No pro Giants anywhere in the top 40.
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UGH
Game 4 of the 2003 NLDS is number 2.
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One of the best postseason debuts in baseball history is being left off the list
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t have an issue with number one. Game 5 of the 1995 ALDS – Mariners win over the Yankees.
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Carpenter's shutout should have been the Lincecum game
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
I mean they had a 4 inning relief appearance from Pedro in there
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
Is the Division Series something we really need to celebrate?
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They pop champagne, don’t they?
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They shouldn't, of course
The Division Series is stupid because the winner doesn’t even win anything. The winner just advances another round.
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They just won the Division Series, so there!
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Exactly. That’s not something you boast about.
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With the LCS show next week, I think they are just doing the top moments in each level of the playoffs. Look for the World Series in two weeks. There should be some pro-Giants in those shows.
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Natto, what do you think? I added the hat, missile coming out of the apple and the phalanx gun…
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That’s how I learned most of it.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jan 4, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, that was some crazy shit in the Orange bowl just now.
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YOU WORTHLESS PISCES OF POOP!!!!
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It’s okay, the Warriors are going to beat the Spurs!
(I can’t even type that without laughing.)
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by Soulbrother16 on Jan 4, 2012 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
I thought you were Bob Fitzgerald for second.
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Today on KNBR he couldn’t stop talking about how they haven’t won in SA in years.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jan 4, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
The Warriors lost in Phoenix and Fitzgerald made excuses on how the Warriors were facing playoff teams and it was tough. Making excuses for them. Doesn’t explain the loss to the lowly Sixers.
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I think you mean the “playoff-bound” Sixers as they called them today.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jan 4, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
Steph Curry is fragile
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It's almost better that he not play at all.
Every time he gets hurt, the Warriors get all mopey and cough up the lead.
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astrophysical?
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jan 4, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a Caps fan and was thinking about going to the game Sat night.
Would it be a mistake to wear my 1984 Scott Stevens sweater?
Throwbacks are good.
I dunno. We’ve never had or seen problems with people who are fans of other teams.
We went to a Habs game with a Habs fan who wore his sweater and nobody said nuttin….
I’d guess so long as you aren’t rocking the Ducks, Kings, nucks, or Stars…. you’d be okay….
Just, you know, don’t be an asshat.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I try hard to limit the asshatness. I generally hate wearing opposing team colors. I think it is just being obnoxious, but as you say, it is a throwback, so maybe it will lend me some cred.
geeeeeeez 2 power plays…. 3 shots on goal. Great guys, just great.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
oh yeah, I forgot all about the great Orange Bowl halftime show
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
did you see the crazy touchdown, touchdown, who got the touchdown? play?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Gotta tip your cap to the Ducks goaltender… blah blah blah.
The bay area should start a cap tipping league.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ferriero my wayward son
There’ll be goals when you are done!!!!
Skate yourself on down the ice
and then score some more
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Nice of the Sharks to actually beat the Ducks
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
okay, it’s safe to celebrate now.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Of course they play well
when I’ve got a singing lesson. I did get to see them blow a PP and then give up a goal in the first 2 minutes.
I should stop watching them for their own good.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Well I dunno if I’d say “play well”. They had a 3 minute flash of brilliance. Even the Mr. was yelling at them last night. “Clear the puck” “You’re on a damn power play! Try SHOOTING the puck.”
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
kanye has been rambling on twitter for nearly two hours straight
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
About?
I would guess how awesome and what a genius he is
or
how fucked up the celebrity life is and all the fake bitches out there
or
Amber Rose calling him out for cheating on her with Kim Kardashian
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
he's run the gamut from fashion to education to his new company to the jetsons
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Truth in advertisement
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I prefer my fuckin’ to be full-priced, thank you.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Dynamic pricing depending on partner.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
“We will adjust prices daily based on market factors and data from the day before.”
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
How many times, feedback from customers, etc…
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It always helps to be polite when they are filling out the survey immediately after service.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
I agree.
That’s not somewhere you want to pinch pennies.
Unless, *insert image of Penny from Big Bang Theory.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
ATTN: TORTURED
And any other fans of Breaking Bad:
I just finished watching Season 3 with my girlfriend, but I’m not sure if she appreciated how fucking awesome the third season is.
What should I do?
Is find a new GF too harsh?
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
A tad, but this will go to the booth…
And…
The ruling on the field is confirmed!
I’m joking, of course, but god damn the third season is so good. I finally got my roommate to agree that it’s better than the fourth season of Dexter, which, if you knew my roommate, is quite the concession.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 5, 2012 3:01 AM PST up reply actions
Season 3 of BB is my favorite tv season of anything ever.
We just finished rewatching it, and it is confirmed. I would reevaluate the relationship.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
So, so tense.
The fourth season sags a bit in the middle, like they had more episodes to fill than they needed… but holy shit what a payoff.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 5, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
I liked S3 better, there were too many plot holes in S4. Still enormously entertaining, however.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Interesting moves
Mets re-signs Scott Hairston for $1.1 M
Blue Jays signs Darren Oliver for $4 m and a club option second. The Lopez and Affeldt deals are looking fairly reasonable (not to say that the Giants needed both)
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 7:07 AM PST via Android app reply actions
Well it was a lot to take in but I finally finished A CoK.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
what did you think of the climax?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
It's always hard to tell exactly when that is.
I’m certainly satisfied but now I’m wanting more.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I am sorry
this line of comments is TWSS
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 7:15 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Thanks
I am a little slow on these things
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 7:20 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
also
TWSS
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 7:20 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
OT: It's OK to eat salt!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I got annoyed at my wife because she started talking about how we can’t use the microwave or stand close to the TV because of EMFs.
Her source: a YouTube video
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 7:14 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
The highest death rate was in the group with the lowest sodium intake; the lowest death rate was in the group with the highest sodium intake.
Man, is that twisting what the linked study says! From the linked study:
The group that had the lowest consumption of salt had 50 deaths from cardiovascular disease.
Not to mention the study mentions a number of possible confounding factors and then does absolutely nothing to address any of them.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I forgot the block quotes
Control freaks still want to ban salt — because people like it.
[link deleted]
Scientific American thinks it is silly. Why is the fed wasting my money telling me I should not eat salt? It’s been doing this for 40 years. Stupid.
Don’t worry, I’m sure there’ll be a study in another couple of months saying the complete opposite
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 5, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions
Mid morning porch
Beautiful day in Dallas. Should rech the high 60s. Perfect running weather.
2nd floor girl finally gets in the elevator with me today. I have a bruised mouth & a cracked tooth (no, you’re not getting that story). I was (am) so doped up on pain meds I was trying to avoid a conversation. The best I could get out was a joke about ‘resisting arrest’ on my condition. It’s always when you don’t want to be seen.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Bah...that sucks, Res.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 5, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
Nah, I like creating an aura of mystery. The truth is never as good as what you’re imagining.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Of course!
Some kind of Murphy’s law. Bummer. Thanks for the update, anyway. :)
Also, feel better soon!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 5, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
The joke? Yeah, she smiled. She’s prettier than I remember. Of course I’m seeing strange colors everywhere.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
you bleed orange, you bleed orange
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I got something in my eye at the exact moment I said hi to a cute girl yesterday. Either I looked like a crazy guy with a twitch or a creepy guy who wouldn’t stop winking at her.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Good Grief
ResDog, your mission, should you choose to accept it, involves introducing yourself to 2nd floor girl and asking her out for coffee. You have two months to complete your mission.
introducing yourself to 2nd floor girl and asking her out for coffee. You have two months to complete your mission.
So easy..for a girl to say, so hard for guys to do :-)
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
“Hey, are you sometimes tired in the morning when you get up early? I hear coffee is good for that.”
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
“So I was thinking you could get up early in a few days and drink coffee.”
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
“I’ll do it too!”
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
“And if we run into each other that morning, then cool.”
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
“Okay, bye.”
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
There’s always the Emergency Stop button. Though that could be perceived as a little creepy.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
A little.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
/hits emergency stop, yells over alarm
‘SO HOW ABOUT WE GO GET A CUPPA JOE?’
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
“Sorry. Heh… This is my stop.”
/waits for it.
/it takes too long.
“Let’s get coffee.”
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Dude..
you are on fire this morning.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Mission impossible.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Why is she taking the elevator to the second floor, anyway?
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
This is a really good point. My desk is on the third floor, and I walk the stairs every time.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I bet you have a corner office too, don’t you?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I basically sit in a cubicle, but without walls. Like the non-office areas of Mad Men.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
How do you get away with McC?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
wow, MLP has even snuck into the investing world
Optimizing Value In The Pursuit Of Dividend Yield Income: REITs, MLPs And BDCs
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
eMerson, Lake and Palmer?
..but in seriousness, to what else does MLP refer besides Master Limited Partnership?
by wcw on Jan 5, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
My little pony
Nowadays, usually referring to the “friendship is magic” series. Remember all the pony pics?
must have blocked those out
A clockwork of black and orange, as it were.
by wcw on Jan 5, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
MLB @MLB
BREAKING: @Yankees unable to reach deal with INF Hiroyuki Nakajima, whom they won rights to negotiate with through posting process.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
SWOOP
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
would have to be next year
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Is this the case?
If so, it seems odd. Seems like it would be easy for a team to put in a bid with no intention of signing the player simply to block other teams.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Don Nomura was kind of an ass about that.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
It’s not a stellar way of doing things.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
the team would have pony up the money up front.
my understanding is that the player goes back to Japan and becomes a FA next year.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:54 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
It is kinda of sad
watching my cell power gauge go down…now at 20%
I may have to interact with the real world soon.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:41 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
danger it
the apparently keeps making my comments replies
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Ahhhh
stupid autocorrect
dang it and app
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Anyone read this? It's pretty good, even if it is Halos Heaven.
http://www.halosheaven.com/2012/1/4/2682571/moneyblog
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Funny stuff
You can’t teach vocabulary…
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I’m surprised that Grant hasn’t killed this thread yet
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
He hasn’t even opened a bottle of breakfast yet. We’ll get day-old thread whether we like it or not.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Day-old thread is an affordable and delicious way to thicken onion soup.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
I think I want to switch my major to Biology
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 10:21 AM PST reply actions
What kind of biology
it’s fine if you are okay doing repetitive and lonely work for a living
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:23 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Wildlife Biology peaks my interest more than most majors.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Piques. Although I guess technically your interest could peak?
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Really?
Huh. I guess I’ve never used that in text before. I honestly didn’t realize they were different.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Kids today.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
GP is a recent college grad.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
And prematurely middle-aged.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Is this true? He seems like an old man.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
See… it’s that kind of reaction that puts you mentally in my age group.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Easy old timer. Don’t get your blood pressure going.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
My dad has blood pressure issues
But, contrary to my apparent vibe here, I’m much more relaxed than he is.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The pay is decent. My wife is applying in master programs for that now.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Its going to be really, really difficult to graduate in four years if I do this though.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Don’t worry about the four year bull shit. One or two extra years now are worth doing what you want 7 or 8 years from now.
I’m going back to school at 26, to do some post bac work so I can apply for a degree in something I actually want.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 5, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Yeah
I’m very lucky to have my parents paying for my first 4 years, but anything after that I’m on my own. I guess the extra year would be worth it to myself.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, an extra semester or two isn’t going to kill you. Plus, you could change your mind.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
A student changing their mind halfway though their degree ? That never happens
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I hate hate hate hate hate that Cal Poly makes you declare upon applying.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Why does it matter? Just declare any old thing.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
“What’s the first one on the list? Yeah, that one.”
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Thats basically what I did.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
I know a guy that got into Cal by declaring as a paleontology major (which was not a popular major). He ended up being a lawyer.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Sneaky bastard. Good idea though.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
He also, in the 8th grade mind you, had the presence of mind and testicular fortitude to forge his dad’s signature on the signature card that was part of his high school admissions paperwork. He also had the self restraint not to overuse it and so had the ability to get out of jail free throughout high school.
As a lawyer he has been successful in defending disability scammers and, later, in catching them.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I have a friend who buys his World Cup tickets every four years similarly. He buys a team-specific strip all the way through the final for the worst team that qualifies.
You end up following whoever eliminates the crappy team (usually a top-seed in the group) so you end up with a couple of crappy games, but an easy ticket to follow a good/great team for 80% of the tournament.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
People are smarter than me.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Same thing happened to my daughter at Vandy. As you can imagine, it did not work out well.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I may have set a record for most official changes of major in a four year span.
Applied Physics → Physiology → Math → Econ → Spanish → English Lit.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Fucking summer school dude. In my undergrad days I transferred schools, lost 2 semesters of credit and still graduated on time by being creative and doing summer school.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 5, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
That’s an option too, especially since GEs are extremely hard to get here.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, with a wildlife biology degree (I got a zoology bs) you can probably pretty easily load up semesters with similar classes and take more than a full time load and kill off a few credits that way too.
For example I took BioChem, 2nd Semester Organic, Micro, Vertmorphology and Animal Physiology plus some bullshit histology class all in the same semester and it was probably my easiest semester ever. As studying for the last few test and finals was really just studying for one test.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 5, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
I was paying for my own college. Thus, I was getting out of there in 4 years or less no matter what. If I were in your situation I would likely have lingered another year. But it wouldn’t have been to find my way. It would have been to take advantage of all the cool classes you don’t get to take when you’re in a hurry. Like Music Theory and Art Studio and Television Production and, hell, Animal Husbandry. You will never again have such an opportunity to learn such diverse subjects from such experts so easily.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
You could be a lawyer instead!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
nah
that job sucks
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:26 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
NOOOOOO!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Thanks! It’s a Natto original! :)
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
That seems to be the response from basically everyone.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I’m not jealous.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
/is secretly jealous
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Well, they’re crazy, because you’re adorable and awesome.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I would love to find a well-paying job that isn’t repetitive.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Be a pollster!
Oh, you said well-paying.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I don't need to be rich
Just as long as I can get along.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 5, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Hmmm. Along is a harsh word. How about “Afford a new cardboard box every three years”?
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
If you work in baseball, it’s every four.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
God, I'd still love to work in baseball.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
but you would obligate
to post things like Sabean is great, Crawford is the next Ozzie Smith, LOOGYs are vital, and Burris is going to be great this year
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:34 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Hey
a Subway in Union Station
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:35 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
ahhh
post fail
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:36 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Movie OT:
What in the world is this Battleship thing I just saw a trailer for?
But Doctor Who’s Mickey just got cast in Star Trek 2, so that’s cool.
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I walked by the movie poster at a theater ...
… and saw that there was a Milton Bradley credit. Couldn’t believe it. Just started giggling. But now I can’t wait for MOUSE TRAP 4: HOLY SHIT MOUSE TRAP
Also, stop typing, the eight of you are thinking of the same Milton Bradley, ex-Mariner joke. We all thought of it first.
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 5, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Grant trying to be Jon Bois
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
It’s sad, really.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
No, sad will be when I murder him and eat his brains to get all the funny inside of me. But I’ll make you laugh so much you’ll forget the sad!
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 5, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Hungry Hungry Hippos
would be a horror film
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:33 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Candyland could probably actually be a credible film.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
brought to you
by Nestle’s
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by CalBear949 on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Starring Johnny Depp.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
And Helena Bonham Carter I presume.
You know, I kinda wish Tim Burton would take a little time off from being Tim Burton.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
The perfect Queen Frostine
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
John Goodman as Gloppy!
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Don’t Wake Daddy will not be the joyride I remember it being as a youth.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Ugh. I can already see the trailer, where Robin Williams says the titular line...
then laughs maniacally.
I can see Operation being a slap-stick comedy. Screw Your Neighbor would be… well you know.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Guess Who is nothing but a cheap Usual Suspects knockoff.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
COPYWRITED MATERIAL
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I forgot they foreshortened the name when they remade that.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
“Is your dude white?”
“Yes.”
/minutes of clicking as panels are flipped down.
“It’s Ashton Kutcher.”
“Damn it! You win again.”
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
But you see, in the remake they flip the whole thing on it’s head. See, now the family is black and it’s the fiance who’s white. Crazy, huh? Get ready to rethink your cultural “values,” America!
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Operation 2011!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 10 recs
Wow, that’s really cool. Did you just whip that up, or did I miss it in the past?
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
I did it last year in the midst of the injury plague.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Lowry’s optional accessory. LOL LOWRY
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Prety sure this game is ripe for a comeback..
King Oil is a board game by Milton Bradley, created in 1974 and now long out-of-print. The game requires players to drill for oil on a three-dimensional board, acquiring property and wealth.
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That would have been much better if I could spell correctly
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Vice President of Clean Energy
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Pique Oil
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t remember the board game being about an alien invasion, where one side uses boats and the other side IS ALIENS.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
His role is described as a family man with two kids, and a small role.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Benedict Cumberbatch has also been cast in the movie, probably as the villain. I love his name.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
A British villian. British people seem to think this is a trend in Hollywood. I love Cumberbatch, tho.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Why the hell would they return to a character from the worst Star Trek movie?
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I don’t think it’s likely, either. I’m just repeating what I read. It was probably less a rumor and more complete “pulled from the ass” speculation.
Personally, I think the next Star Trek movie should be more The Doomsday Machine/Immunity Syndrome than Space Seed. Just need something that involves the crew of the Enterprise. I don’t need all these side characters and big ol’ villains.
The main rumor is Khan, which seems awfully likely if maybe not all that creative.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
It’d be weird if he played Khan. Also, my interest in the film drops to about 10% if the Khan thing is confirmed (and, yes, I realize it all but has been confirmed at this point). I just… what a lazy, stupid idea.
Been done, and is the best ST movie. There’s lots of others to choose from. The other night we watched the one where Spock has to choose between saving his dad’s life or commanding the Enterprise. That was a good one.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Journey to Babel!
That would’ve been a good model for a movie, too, because it involved various Star Trek cultures. The Klingons, I believe, figure prominently, too.
Khan… ugh. You need Space Seed to setup Wrath of Khan, so, just doing Space Seed seems… so boring and really lacking in imagination.
Again, something like The Doomsday Machine or, hell, even The Corbomite Maneuver — or better yet, The Balance of Terror — done on film’s scale works a lot better because it would’ve forced them to use just the Enterprise crew and develop them and really show us how fucking awesome Captain Kirk is, but even more so when he’s got the rest of them by his side.
I want to see Karl Urban deliver this!
In this galaxy, there’s a mathematical probability of three million Earth type planets. And in all of the universe three million, million galaxies like this. And in all of that, and perhaps more, only one of each of us. Don’t destroy the one named ’Kirk.
Balance of Terror hinges on some seriously bad science, tho. They “run silent” as if a spaceship could do otherwise.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Well, Star Trek 2009 hinged on some terri-bad science, too. A supernova that THREATENS THE GALAXY?!?!?!
But, the bigger point is that BoT is tense and in a confined space and forces our crew to work their asses off and the writer(s) to tell a story that plays to the top of the audience’s intelligence.
I thought it was just a thing that could create a black hole right?
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
LOL HAWKING RADIATION
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Are they able to control the size of the black hole? Seems like it would end up being more destructive in the long run.
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Everything about the movie, down to the comics and novels, is nonsensical. I could not believe the explanation for the Narada.
But do we really watch Star Trek for the science? They travel faster than the speed of light and transmit matter more or less instantaneously by uploading your “pattern” into a blue energy field. A blue energy field that you can be trapped in, and while you’re trapped in it, you can walk around.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
So he is a family man who possesses two kids and a small role? What kind of role?
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
A small one.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe the character has a small role in his childrens’ life.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
It gets Kirk to reflect on his own childhood, growing up without a father.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
And speaking of Kirk’s father, I had no idea that he was Thor.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 5, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Welp, the girlfriend did not like the first episode of Avatar: The Last Airbender. Looks like I am going it alone for this one.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
It might take a few to get her invested… it did for me.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
That’s what I figure too, but she seems unwilling.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
WELL TELL HER TO LIGHTEN UP AND ENJOY THE SHOW THEN
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
JUST WATCH THE GAME
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
But seriously, the payoff was worth it… although it must be said that the rate of people liking shows they’ve been noodged into is pretty low.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 5, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
I would go to any movie my husband wanted to see. We don’t go as often as we used to, and I have to drag him to see a movie I’m interested in (don’t think he’ll want to see Girl with a Dragon Tattoo). So when he suggests going to a movie, I’m all for it.
Dragon Tattoo should be great. I didn’t love the book and usually turn my nose up at domestic remakes of foreign films (Why the F did they have to do a shot-by-shot remake of “Let the Right One in?”). That said, the original Dragon Tattoo movie was good and the cast and crew of the remake is pretty spectacular.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 5, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
I really, really, really liked Dragon Tattoo. I was surprised by how much I liked it, in fact.
I didn’t really like a certain story point because I felt it undercut the emotional arc of two characters, but… that was in the book.
I read the books and thought they were good, and the original movies were also good (though haven’t see the last one yet). Looking forward to watching this version.
I tried to watch the Swedish film but turned it off ten minutes in. Couldn’t hold a candle to the Sony version, even if it’s more faithful to the book (which I never read).
My Editor in Chief is bringing me back Animal Style Fries *g'bye new year's resolution*
I AM NOT MADE OF STONE.
Can you fax some over to my office ?
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LOLOLD
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This is not news..
I could give you my cloud storage IP, but the fries would probably get grease all over the other records stored there.
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New thread
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2012/1/5/2685017/regrets-ive-had-a-few#comments
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