Community Projection Rejection: Tim Lincecum
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 3, 2012 1:30 PM PST
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PrintBefore there was a Game 1 of the NLDS or a Game 5 of the 2010 World Series, there was August, 2010. That was the month in which Tim Lincecum was completely broken.
| I | Split | W | L | IP | H | HR | BB | SO | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| August | 0 | 5 | 7.82 | 25.1 | 33 | 5 | 13 | 27 |
He didn't even have any saves, either.
It's hard to remember now, but there was panic. Pure, unfettered panic. National writers were wondering if there was something to that pre-draft theory that Lincecum was too small, wee, and frail to hold up as a starting pitcher. Some of the most brilliant minds of our generation came up with elaborate new theories.
Then Lincecum stopped cutting his nails so short, and he was fine. Or he started cutting them shorter. Or he tweaked his release point by a millimeter. Or he started playing long toss. Something. Whatever he did, it worked, and then he ... well, let's just use this technology stuff to watch what happened
Still the best pitching performance I've ever watched in person. It's like the Braves' advance scout got drunk and wrote a scouting report for Felix Rodriguez instead.
"ONLY THROWS FASTBALLS...WILL NOT THROW A BREAKING BALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES...IS RETIRED AND FROM A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COUNTRY...OH, MAN, I COULD GO FOR AN EGG MCMUFFIN RIGHT NOW, I'M SO HUNGRY...
And for whatever reason, the Braves listened to him and just flailed at the offspeed stuff. It was an amazing performance.
This all made for a very confusing projection before the 2011 season.
Projected:
IP: 211
ERA: 3.12
BB: 58
K: 236
HR: 15Actual:
IP: 217
ERA: 2.74
BB: 86
K: 220
HR: 15
Scary: The climb in walks at the same time his strikeout rate is dropping.
Beautiful: The overall performance, as long as you don't hold it to his previous standards
Annoying: He actually finished 13-14. I mean, wins and losses are mostly useless, but, man. That is just embarrassing and horrible and embarrassing. The W/L stat might be useless, but it sure does stare you in the face when you're looking at someone's Baseball-Reference page.
There are two ways to look at this. The first is that Lincecum can get better. He has a lot of moving parts in his windup, and if he ever perfects his mechanics -- or at least returns to the mechanics he had in 2009 -- he can get a lot better. The second is that these numbers are a harbinger of something bad. As in, there's some bad omen found in Lincecum's strikeout rate moving from historically great to just among the best today, especially while his walks have spiked.
Could be the first. Could be the second. Could be neither, and he just repeats his 2011 for the next ten years. One thing I'm thrilled with: Lincecum isn't the free agent after this season. As much as I love him, and as much as I want to get his face tattooed on my face so I could have a Tim Lincecum face on my face, I think I need one more year to determine if he's worth something that would blow away the Zito contract. Well, as much as any pitcher could be.
Lincecum had a good year in 2011. I figured he would, as did most of the people who commented in that projection thread. But I think that August will always stick with me. I'm not sure that a pitcher can be more awesome while still making me a little skittish. He's found the perfect equilibrium between the two.
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my prediction yo.
17-9
IP: 215
ERA: 2.99
BB: 80
K: 211
HR: 14
Signs a 5 year extension at the end of the season.
Dammit.
This is the projection review not the projection for next year. There’s still three months to fill.
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 3, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
I'll have plenty more ideas for you.
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I got it! The Imagination Series
- What would happen to the Giants if GP took over Sabean’s brain for 1 week?
- You’re a puppy owned by Lincecum and Cain, they are on opposite sides of the room and they are both calling for you at the same time, who would you run to?
- Imaginationland, best South Park episode(s) ever?
Hehe
1) Sabean’s brain would melt.
2) You pee on the floor, excited both are paying attention to you, then roll on the floor until one of them comes to you.
3) No. As a South Park lover, I think the Imaginationland episodes aren’t even in the top 10. My personal fav: Whore Off w/ Paris Hilton Mr. Slave.
Watching the Giants play baseball is like buying tickets 162 times a year to have Mike Tyson pretend your testicles are a speed bag.
I believe Imaginationland was supposed to be a feature film, but Stone/Parker were totally turned off by the Hollywood process by that point.
So hard to pick a single episode. It’d have to be a Butters and/or Cartman ep. Maybe “Awesome-O?” I love Awesome-O.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Such was my understanding as well.
For my money, it’s pretty hard to beat the first movie, but I don’t know if that counts.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I LOVED the Awesome-O episode..
Probably my #2 favorite. And yes, it’s very difficult to choose a top 10. But I don’t think Imaginationland would have made a good movie. It’s hard to top the movie they made. I’ve probably seen it 100 times.
Watching the Giants play baseball is like buying tickets 162 times a year to have Mike Tyson pretend your testicles are a speed bag.
LOL
Who reads the OP anymore anyway?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
How does this bode?
fWAR:
2007: 3.2
2008: 7.5
2009: 8.0
2010: 4.9
2011: 4.4
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
So what you're saying is...
That Cy Young winning seasons may stand out even against an impressive career baseline?
I'm with Grant
Want to see how this year goes before I firmly am for or against a giant extension for Timmy
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Tim Lincecum 2012
Better than you
IP: 220
ERA: 2.90
BB: 80
K: 230
HR: 15
HRAllowed: 18
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
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he really must be bulking up in the batting cage
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:17 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
one of these days, Lincecum will have a bad season, like, a really bad season
maybe even an ERA+ under 100. Then all his doubters will finally be able to celebrate that the fragile frailty himself fell apart just as they thought. The 40+WAR career preceding that won’t discount it.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
my projection
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by jctGamer on Jan 3, 2012 1:52 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Tim Lincecum got 30 swinging strikes in NLDS Game 1
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 PM PST reply actions
That game was a lot of fun
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
According to Bill James' game score
Tim Lincecum’s performance was better than Roy Halladay’s playoff no hitter.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Tim Lincecum was the 2nd pitcher in MLB history to strike out at least 10 batters, allow 2 hits or fewer in a shutout in his postseason debut. The only other was Ed Walsh in Game 3 of the 1906 World Series.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Ed Walsh was pretty good.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
So Tim Lincecum
is the worst player in history to strike out at least 10 batters, allow 2 hits or fewer in a shutout in his postseason debut.
Is that what you are saying?
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
How many pitchers can you say the same thing about?
One year is better than another year. He was better last year. He was better this year
He can get injured. He is injured. He will get injured. He is recovering from an injury.
Stats go up and down. So the Giants wait because his stats went down in SOME areas?
Do they hurry because his ERA went down too? ANd ignore that he has been if not the best pitcher in the last four years, one of the top five certainly. Who waits on a truly great pitcher who is still young? oh yeah the Giants… I really get mad about this.
2011 projection
IP: 217
ERA: 3.36
BB: 70
K: 219
HR: 19
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM PST reply actions
Extending Lincecum would be a huge mistake.
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Even for 8 years at $5 milion/year?
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Of course not
But, I think, for the money he’s likely to command.
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Yeah, I know. I wuz trollin.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
S'okay. So was he.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
These are the things that I think
You can agree with them or not, but they ain’t trollin.
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Stating it as a plain fact without any context puts it in the gray area for sure.
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I mean
You should just assume that it’s my opinion. If it wasn’t, I wouldn’t say it.
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I think you are trolling.
These are the things that I think You can agree with them or not.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
So one can only troll if one is duplicitous about ones views?
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 3, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
I lean this direction as well
But say he puts up 2009 type year in 2012.
Would that change your opinion at all?
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What's the difference as far as pay goes?
If he has a great year. it would be Zito esque but you get him at below market for this year.
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Maybe
But that would likely make him that much more expensive.
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Assuming he doesn't crater the next two years..
I feel like he’s already going to get paid at the top of the market. Maybe his AAV would go up a little bit, but if the Giants are really going all out to sign him to a long term deal I think I’d prefer he buck the downward trend even at the expense of giving him more money
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A big performance in a contract year would put him in line for an A-Rod deal
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
No one will give him 10 years
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Well, not exactly an A-Rod deal
A deal that would be for pitchers what that one was for position players.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Probably not
But he would easily get more than Cliff Lee did, right? And Lee left a 160+ million dollar deal on the table, didn’t he?
Tim could easily get 200 million if he has another 2009 season. I’d rather not give it to him.
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My logic is uncertain where the Giants are concerned. I have no faith in their ability to spend money on good players, so a part of me thinks signing him long-term is the safest move for them. Then again, I’m tired of them putting together lineups with chewed bubblegum and toilet paper.
This is a good point I've never really thought about
If they don’t sign Timmy, then we’re trusting Sabean and Co. to spend that money properly.
Although maybe Sabean will just resign if he fails to sign Timmy.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Only stupid GMs would give him 10 years
So RAJ?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I’d rather have Cain and a position player.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
To quote the Rolling Stones: “You can’t always get what you want”.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
But if you try sometimes... you might find... You get what you nee-eed!
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Yes, and I did need that.
In fact, I need that again. Soon.
by mrs. owlcroft on Jan 3, 2012 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
A. Cabrera and Choo
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A. Cabrera
This is my white whale. It always scares me when I agree with CalBear
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Probably
But I’d still love him more than Zito\Huff\Rowand combined, even if he wastes their contracts combined, we still have the good years as memory.
As a team building exercise, that is stupid, but as a fan I am okay with it. If you are going to blow 200 mil on anyone, it is the 2 time Cy young, staff ace that helped bring us home the big trophy. And Posey.
Blerg
You'd probably be surprised how little you love him if he doesn't pitch as well and makes 20 million a year.
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Do the Rockies hate Helton?
I guess I might not like it, but it would be like the Beltran deal, I am okay with the decision at the time and be willing to wear it.
I am a little spooked at 8 years, I hope that will be negotiated to 6 +1 team option.
Blerg
I think
people got tired of it after a while. Helton was also unique because he was there for the inaugural season.
Tim is great but it’s debatable whether he is the face of the organization.
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That’s because this terrible, terrible team has at least 3 other candidates (Panda, Posey, Cain).
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Wilson is actually the non-Bay Area face
Between Huff, Rowand and Zito coming off the books, there will be some payroll flexibility coming in 1-3 years. Is anyone really excited to replace him with someone else cheaper and shorter term? Grab Buerhle AND a CJ Wilson for the price of 1 Lincecum?
Blerg
Helton wasn't a Rockie until the organization's fifth season
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:34 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
6 years?
I think he grew it around the time he was on the DL with a GI disease
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:38 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Thanks
so much fail. He was the first home grown superstar they had
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this is very much true
there really has only been two in two decades, if you remove Ubaldo from consideration.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:39 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Is he the pitcher that shall not be named? I thought he was going to dominate the NL West for 10 years.
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me too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Helton was not on the Rockies in 1993
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Fare thee well, Carlos. We don't need you apparently.
Oh
Already been answered, lol
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Fare thee well, Carlos. We don't need you apparently.
sorry, i should read a ways down before i post stuff. i am still learning about this 21st century.
...
Things are starting to make sense.
Carter Jurica!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 3, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Helton never made $20mil in a season
he had a really rough 2010 and a difficult 2008, but he has otherwise been solid, probably the top 1B in the division in all but 2-3 seasons in Colorado. He has been worth the contract, which got him love from fans eternal for committing longterm to an organization that hasn’t given him much opportunity at winning, and he hasn’t complained.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:37 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Hey
how is the Willingham signing go down with Rockies fans?
I thought the Roxs would sign a couple SPs for sure.
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I think most Rox fans are totally confused
I wanted Willingham, but they were never even interested. the line is improving team chemistry, which might be an excuse to get the cheaper guy, not go $10m more. Cuddyer got the richest FA contract of any hitter in franchise history. It’s just…wrong.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:41 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
We were all hoping that you guys wouldn’t sign Beltran.
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I have a feeling you would have been ok with it.
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You uncovered me
I am a closet Roxs fan. Go Cargo!
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We would have all been raging and then you’d be like, “Meh, Pagan will have a better season.”
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Yes
go Roxs!
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I've seen 17 different spellings of Rockies
but never Roxs. imposter!
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:51 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
You got me
I’m really a Padres fan and there is more than one. There is at least 10 of us on opening day.
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Are
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by jhiat00 on Jan 3, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No, that's the Pirates.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
/ golf clap
ICWYDT
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
he was my number one for sure
but really, that wasn’t happening unless he arbitrarily begged to come to Colorado. too talented to interest the Rox
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:46 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Thanks for the clarification
I am all sort of fail today.
You guys signed Cuddyer, D-backs signed Kubel.
Yeah…not liking the Cuddyer trade. Willingham would have been a better fit.
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AHHH
not trade…signing.
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Making 20 mil next year at 38?
Last 4 years have been up and down, 3 of those 4 he produced less than his 16+ mil salary. The whole back half of his contract was bad to ugly.
Blerg
2 huge flaws in your argument
1) evaluating any longterm contract based solely on the last 25% will make it look bad. He is providing more value now than most would have expected 6 years ago.
2) more importantly, he is NOT making over $20m+ next year. He is making $4.9mil. that’s all. He never made more than $16.6m in any season.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 2:55 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
BR had me confused, they're claiming 20 mil in 2011
Still, less than 8 WAR last 4 years. Even at 15 mil x 4 years= 60 Mil is expensive for 8 WAR.
People in Colorado still acceptable with Helton.
My point altogether was, signing Tim for long term now, we will not be hating on him should he slow down late in the contract, similar to Helton.
Blerg
yeah, he had a $23mil option for 2012 on the original contract
but that was restructured after the 2009 season, when that option was declined, and in its place, he was given a 2 year extension at roughly $5mil per, which is very affordable.
I agree mostly with your premise, in that the elite years while cheap buy a lot of slack with fans later…as long as the player is still a decent player late. I imagine if Lincecum fell to Zito levels at the end, it might be palatable.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
2 year extension - fine
8 years would probably be bad.
I assume your unstated premise is that he will be overpaid on the open market.
Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
they were for the Japanese version anyway, unless you had the switch installed on your saturn (and Saturn CD!)
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
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I, uh, could help you get to the good stuff.
Namely, a translated and fully playable version of the game on your PC.
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I am intrigued!
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with a subject line so people can collapse my spamming.
Step 1: Computer There is a working emulator for Saturn, but it is only compatible with Windows. If you are a Mac user, you want to use something like VMWare Fusion (what I have been using) or Parallels (costs moneyz) to run a virtual boot of XP or 7.
Step 2: Emulator SSF is the product of choice; most others can’t run at a reasonable frame rate. I am not sure what the up-to-date opinion on the best versions to play SF3 are, but a bit of research on the translation project forums or the SSF page could probably tell you. Link.
Step 3: Games There are various places online you can find the necessary ISOs of the game files. Ostensibly, you’ll be wanting Scenario 1 in English, and Scenarios 2 and 3 in Japanese, because Shining Force 3 is awesome.
Step 4: Patching The translation project has been at work for many years, and they’ve really done a fantastic job. The game still suffers from some glitches, but there are workarounds in most cases. Just do your reading beforehand. Link.
Last I picked up, they had everything translated except for the last chapter of Scenario 3, and the massive character bio bookcase in HQ in Scenarios 2 and 3. If I understand correctly, the game is now fully translated. This includes a re-translation of the end of Scenario 1, since it was butchered in the original release to tie up all the loose ends.
My recommendation is that you go read up on the translation project page and the project forum it links to if you need help with getting things set up properly. They get a lot of recurring questions, so be sure to read the FAQs and stickies before posting.
And just as proof, here is a video picked pretty much at random from Swalchy’s YouTube channel. He was a big contributor to the project. It’s footage of a battle from early in Scenario 2: Voice acting is still in Japanese, but everything else is good to go.
Reasons why the internet is awesome.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
...holy shit.
Santa’s real, double rainbows are amazing, and mayan ghosts are just coming back to party.
This is the best news I have seen, possibly ever.
Time hasn’t done the graphics any favors, but it is still hands-down my favorite video game of all time.
As a kid, my best friend and I played the Japanese Scenarios with an ST Key on an English Saturn, even though we had no clue what was going on in the story. I know everyone loves FF Tactics, but I don’t know if it can compare with the depth of SF3. Some of the fights in the later games, particularly in Scenario 3, have pretty fantastic mechanics.
It’s really a shame Camelot would rather make Golden Sun games for the DS then localize and polish SF3. The current distribution model is perfect for it.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Don't get me started on the plunder of the Shining Series
Anyone play Shining Force PS2? shudders. continues to shudder
I make a point of ignoring the franchise post SC3.
Tactical RPG or GTFO.
On a semi-related note, I also loved Ogre Battle 64, and wonder what happened to that series as well. My cartridge dissapeared about 8 years ago, and it made me sad. Get on that shit, Atlus.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
There's an elegance to the genre that only the Shining series captures
Plus the kick-ass art direction, (Steam Powered Armadillo knights? Flying Jellyfish that steal souls? DWARVES WITH MEATBALLS FOR NOSES? SIGN ME UP.)
No other series really worked for me on that level, though in college I worked on the launch/marketing campaign of the Fire Emblem for the DS, so that was pretty cool.
I played the first Fire Emblem game on the GBA, and the “once dead, forever dead” mechanic drove me crazy. It made characters feel too expendable and took the charm right out. Haven’t touched the franchise since.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
It's brutal
Especially since I’m a perfectionist. That’s also why I do NOT allow myself to play the new wave of SRPGs which are purely about grinding. That gets me sick to my stomach. And this is a guy who powerlevelled in the secret fairy forest battle in Shining Force 2 to level 40 before promoting my dudes.
I once used a save state editor to make my own version of two where your swordsman is a mage, and your rat ninja (Slade, which I named my pet rate in middle school) got to use all of the hero swords.
And yes, I’m a HUGE fucking nerd. I was making Rush references in the previous thread.
Slade totally kicked ass in a non game breaky way
unlike that pheasant who would not shut up or stop following you.
Yeah. I only ever played as far as the Heroes’ Test in Scn 3. That’s like 30 hours worth of grind by itself with my perfectionist tendencies.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I never could find my way through those
Anything that was off the beaten path in 2 and 3 was ultimately too much of a pain for me
WTF
It’s like Alien, but from his pelvic region.
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"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
I'm not clicking that link
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Well, no.
WTF
It’s like Alien, but from his pelvic region.
Not after a reaction like that.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
GRANT!!
YOU WILL NOT BE SEEING ME AT THE PANCAKE SOCIAL!!
Bastige!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 2:16 PM PST reply actions
What if Grant also serves waffles with a spot of cornmeal in the batter and the egg whites whipped separately for more fluffiness?
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Best use is on Murph & Mac
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I got the sub 3.00 ERA right.
Projected:
IP: 220.2
ERA: 2.98
BB: 70
K: 255
HR: 14
Actual:
IP: 217
ERA: 2.74
BB: 86
K: 220
HR: 15
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
August 2010
People at the time thought he showed signs of dead arm. In reality, he wasn’t doing things like throwing long toss, strengthening his legs, and running stairs. He would lose steam over the course of a ball game because he wasn’t properly preparing himself physically.
I think I need one more year to determine if he’s worth something that would blow away the Zito contract.
This is the wise approach. He needs to show improvement on his fastball command. He was able to regain his velocity last season, averaging 92.2mph in 2011; a full mile per hour faster than the 91.2mph in 2010.
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yeah, I was wrong on the velocity
I thought he’d stay at 91. But damn, was I good on the energy markets and on CPI.
Pro tip: don’t quit my day job.
by wcw on Jan 3, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Markets are happy today.
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crude is backwardated again, too
Thank Iran right now, instead of Libya.
by wcw on Jan 3, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Iran trying to cash out
Iraq has 6 million Barrels a day due to come online in the next 2 years.
Also I love all I read about drop in diesel technology that is incoming.
Long term crude outlook I would not rate as great.
Blerg
how long is long-term?
There is a reason crude isn’t at $150 any more, but I’d rather be long than short in the long term.
by wcw on Jan 3, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Shale Oil is profitable at $70 barrel now
And the US has like 100 year world supply of it. Drop in Bio Diesel has capacity to take massive bite out too. Add in the US has dropped usage steady since 2007 peak, to help offset some of developing nations thirst.
5-10 years from now oil could be totally different.
Blerg
And this is what makes a market.
Me, I’d bet on nukes before I bet on biodiesel. Shale is having an effect, but mostly on the gas market.
by wcw on Jan 3, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Any progress
on the non-corn based biodiesel? Corn biodiesel is not a long term solution and results in higher food prices.
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Algae? Switchgrass? Folks who think these are solutions have forgotten the scale of global fuels consumption.
by wcw on Jan 3, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Either
isn’t the idea that both of those are easily produced/abundant?
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not easily
..or my buddy’s algae startup would have made him rich by now. Could happen. Be nice if it did.
by wcw on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
I think the conversion process is what's difficult
but it’s pretty easy to grow algae and switchgrass.
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Easy, yes, but not at scale. IEA has us at 90m bpd. Algae is going to give you 100 barrels of oil per acre per year, maybe, if everything goes right. To get 90m bpd from algae you’re talking about devoting surface area worth about 10% of global arable land to algae production.
by wcw on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
One time we got stuck driving along behind some dude up on the north coast I think…whose bumpersticker said his car was running on reclaimed french fry oil. That was some interesting exhaust fumage.
“We’re in the middle of a redwood forest…why do I smell McDonalds?” !
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Switchgrass is the begining
This is all 1st gen stuff, 1st gen genetics. Corn and Rice per acre have risen dramatically in the last 100 or so years.
The component to it, is you can grow the stuff on the sides of roads, or non food producing land, and keep the existing diesel engine infrastructure, if you produce drop in refineries.
We keep trying to “save” energy with batteries in electric cars, and hit a wall. The real battery\solar power is plants, which were the raw components in Coal\Oil anyways. being able to produce it and not wait millions of years to consume it, would be a massive leap.
Everything I read on it, is it will be ready faster than you can blink, if we keep our research strong on it.
Blerg
sure seems easier to just consume less
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We need less people
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
/shotgun pump sound
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
He was 130 lbs in August
Last offseason he was known to mash double doubles like nothing, trying to get his weight up. I think he added 10-15 lbs, looked better too.
Tim might blow out his arm at any time, but on the other side, him and Matt are two of the mentally strongest pitchers I have ever seen. They pitch, no matter the score, no matter who is on base, what bad luck happened. They are animals.
Blerg
But, isn’t the time to strike now, when the rest of the world isn’t sure about him so you can knock a few million off per year?
IIRC, the problem with Tim in Aug 2010 was that he weighed like 150 lbs and looked anorexic. When he started working out and eating In-n-Out, he was fine.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
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Coco Crisp is signing with Oakland, for a $6m salary in 2012, a $7m salary in ’13, a club option of $7.5m for ’14, with a $1 m. buyout.
I’d still prefer Torres. But I’ll take Pagan over this.
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Wow
That is way too much.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Cody probably can't play CF as well as Crisp.
But yeah, it seems somewhat silly.
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It seems like way too much for Crisp. I’m liking the Pagan thing more now.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
They’re not quite comparable because Coco is a FA and Pagan is in his last year of arbitration. Coco will probably be worth the money he’s paid, but the standards for value are lower. Pagan stands a good chance at matching that value, though.
One could argue that the Giants could have signed Coco and kept Torres as a 5th OF and that they would have been better for it, but I am not the one to do so.
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Those cereal ad dollars
will help pay for the contract.
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If he's healthy, he's worth that pretty easily I think.
If.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Big difference between 13 million dollars and 200.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Depends on the actual individuals who you are paying. You would have paid Reyes 200 and he is always broken. But Tim isn’t worth squat just because he happens to be a pitcher.
You’re as knee-jerk as the FO about some stuff.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I wouldn't have paid Reyes 200
And I wouldn’t pay Tim that either.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Me, neither.
But I believe you would have paid at least 120 for Reyes and that’s probably much closer to what Tim would actually get. If it were me, and I had to spend that much on one of those two, I’d bet on Timmy.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Sabathia got 7-years, $160 million and with the $30M that just got added on when they re-did his deal this offseason it’ll actually be 7-year $190 million.
This is what I see Timmys deal being around
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He had basically a full season last year
and had a OPS+ of 91.
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I mean, he's been worth 5.5 fWAR over the past two season
He’s not bad.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He was pretty bad in 2008 and 2009
And has averaged 95 games a year over the last 4 years.
He’s 32 and speed is a large part of his game and his OBP leaves a lot to be desired for a leadoff man.
No thanks.
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If you’re always paying market value for wins, you’re not going to have a good team.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Why did they trade Torres?
This article from Chris Haft shows Torres was more than just another ball player:
http://chrishaft.mlblogs.com/2011/12/31/goodbye-2011-farewell-andres-torres/
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Because nice guys don't win games.
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YOU HEAR THAT PRINCE FIELDER?!
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, he was 2 WAR last season, right?
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
not a good soldier
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Because he's 34
and obviously struggling at the plate.
They weren’t going to tender him and got what they could at the deadline.
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With that said
I l like Pagan a lot more than Torres at the plate.
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I’m saving this post in anticipation that Torres will out perform Pagan next season.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Meh
It could happen. But Pagan is a younger version of Torres without the ADHD concerns.
Torres is a better fielder but Pagan has been pretty good at the plate the last 3 years.
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LET THE PR CAMPAIGN BEGIN!
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Just interviewed Aubrey Huff. Said his body is “ripped” and Pilates will be a key to his revival in 2012. Splash Blog: bit.ly/qxQ29r
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It's the pilates! He's been saved!
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
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I mean pilates has worked for Zito
no?
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I thought Zito did yoga.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
But Zito was trying to find his focus. Huff’s proven that he can focus as evidenced as all the focussing he did on cheeseburgers and grounders to second
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 3, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
maybe he did core work and got rid of the beer belly?
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE!
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
I'm convinced.
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Did he post a twitpic of his abs?
Bochy said Huff is sending him pictures every week.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
NSFW
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Thrilling to the core!
“Over new year’s I got so ripped in Mexico on the way back I fought with pilots of the plane”
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Huff said that?
You sure it wasn’t sarcasm?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Huff downplays the conditioning aspect somewhat, saying he did the same offseason workout the past two winters aside from the Pilates.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
It worked in 2010!
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i read that as
“pirates will be a key”
by MadisonBumpleganger on Jan 3, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty good article
Huff saying all the right things but the performance on the field is what matters
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I expect he’ll get plenty of chances, considering he’ll be making $11 million next season
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
I actually don't
especially after the DFA’ing of Rowand and Tejada.
I think he needs to win a job at ST.
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It's amazing that
it happened at all.
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Bengie Molina is a better comparison. He was making less than half of what Huff will be making next season, $4.5 million, and wasn’t traded/dumped until June 30th.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Except
as Howie stated, there was always a plan to send Buster to Fresno.
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LOL Belt
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
FO
has already stated that Belt is likely to start at 1B and Huff play in the OF.
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He would start over Huff
I imagine Huff to be a DeRosa like player. Filing in whenever an OF/Belt sits.
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I mean
people forget that Bochy basically benched Rowand for the 2nd half of 2010.
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He had no choice.
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Of course he did
He could have played Rowand in a corner OF position over Nate or Ross or played Rowand in CF and moved Torres to a corner OF.
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He chose to do that by putting Torres in corner OF spot from time to time.
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Sure
but he started 12 games in August/September/October 2010
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Thank God.
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You're correct
To Bochy’s credit, he could’ve stuck with him like Castilla in SD. Maybe some sense is creeping into that large noggin.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Call it optimism
I mean every one is convinced that Belt’s demotion is certain but Bochy played Belt a lot in September and Huff not much at all.
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me too.
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He had no choice.
Huff was the one of the worst players in the league.
But now he’s in the best shape of his life because of this Pilates.
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
Filing in whenever an OF/Belt sits.
Bochy: Belt is our stating first baseman. Earned it in Spring Training. However, he is such a young kid the grinds of the season may be too much for him. I plan to make sure he gets plenty of rest so he doesn’t break down. Then we can get Huffy some at bats, maybe rest Belt 4-5 games a week.
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Maybe
but it is up to Belt to keep his position. I know it’s not a popular position here but Belt did not exactly push his way into the lineup last year, for whatever reason.
I believe that Belt will have another great ST and play decent in April.
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lol SSS
but Belt did not exactly push his way into the lineup last year, for whatever reason.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I agree to a certain extent
but rookies have to prove themselves to get in the lineup unless there are no other viable options.
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The "other viable option" was a offensively putrid Aubrey Huff.
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A guy getting paid $11 million a year and Belt hit as badly for most of the year.
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Most of the year?
200 scattered PA’s is most of the year?
Also: as badly?
Belt: OPS+ 101
Huff: OPS+ 90
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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March/April:
Belt: .569
Huff: .573
August:
Belt: .704
Huff: .749
September:
Belt: .788
Huff: .678
Huff’s worst months were May and July
May: the Giants recalled Belt and then he had the wrist break
July: Belt did not return until July 19.
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Maybe
but Huff hit okay in August. He got benched in Sept/Oct and Belt got the starts.
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200 scattered PA's
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I understand SSS
I am talking about actual production not potential of player.
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This comment
Means you don’t understand SSS
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No
I do understand. SSS basically means that the stat line has no predictive value because of the lack of reliable data.
This is not a discussion of how well Belt is predicted to do, just what actually happened in not forcing Bochy to play him.
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And Belt outproduced Huff
by OPS, OPS+, wRC+, bWAR, fWAR….
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Right
again, I am assuming we’re talking about the year stats as opposed to the developments in the year.
Belt had a great ST and surplanted Huff as the starting 1B with Ross on the DL. Huff was not good in OF and was hitting a little better than Belt when Ross came back. Belt was then sent to Fresno to get regular PAs with Huff at 1B and Ross in OF.
Huff sucked in May and the Giants called Belt back up only to have his wrist break and be out until late July.
Huff did okay in June and dipped again in July. Huff hit okay in August and the dipped again in September.
The result was Belt playing out the end of the season and Huff riding the pine.
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...Why didn't you say this earlier?
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Fair enough
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Why?
The Braves didn’t make Freddie Freeman prove himself.
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Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Who was the alternative to Freeman?
Freeman also had close to a .130 higher OPS than Belt in March/April
(.695 v. .569)
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There was no alternative because the Braves didn’t force him to prove himself.
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C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
?
so the Giants should not have signed Huff?
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Probably not
Belt failed to live up to expectations last season, but he still managed to be a league average hitter despite injuries and constant subversion by Bochy.
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Sure
but at the end of 2010, it was hard to say that. It is difficult to rely on a rookie even one as heralded as Belt.
I still believe the plan was to have Belt play one more year in the minors and have him come up in 2013. Instead, Huff’s suckiness moved up that timeline.
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Wrong again
The Giants never had a plan for Belt.
This is evidenced by their decision to start Belt after Spring Training (a small sample size against mediocre competition)… then they abandoned him after 60 major plate appearances. What kind of player development strategy is that? Completely moronic. Of course he only had a .237 BABIP in those 17 games.
It’s just so obvious that the Giants just make it up as they go along.
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Belt got into the lineup because Ross got hurt. The thought was to have Huff play the OF/1B and split time with Ross/Belt.
Belt played poorly and got sent down to get PAs in Fresno when Ross came back off the DL.
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They didn’t have to bring up Belt. They could have started Huff at first, then played Torres in center, Nate in right, and Burrell in left. In fact, that would have made a lot of sense.
But no… they had to bring up Belt because he was the “hot hand” and then stifle his development by not giving him a fair shot.
“Hey, let’s destroy this kid’s confidence and piss him off with a demotion!”
Either you play him every day in the majors for at least 200 plate appearances or you put him in AAA. That’s the smart way to handle a prospect.
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because
they didn’t see Nate as anything more than a fourth OF/defensive replacement.
They wanted Huff and Belt’s bat in the lineup.
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Also
what were they supposed to do when Ross come off the DL?
The Giants admitted that they mishandled Belt not because they didn’t believe in but rather they were overconfident after the success of Buster.
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Now you're changing your story
First, they were forced into playing Belt because Ross got injured. But now they really wanted Belt’s bat in the lineup.
And if they valued Belt so highly, why would they drop him after 60 plate appearances and a .237 BABIP?
Oh right, because they have no plan and no regard for statistics.
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I didn't change my story
Ross hurt himself in late March, just before the end of ST. He was projected to be out a month or more. The Giants decided that they needed another bat in the lineup with Ross out.
The idea would have been to have a Huff/Nate and Belt/Huff platoon until Ross came back. Then it could be a L/R matchup thing. They did DFA Ishikawa and expected Belt to take that role.
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You don’t platoon a prospect like Belt.
But that’s not what they did, anyway. They made him the starting first basemen and then dumped him back in AAA after 60 plate appearances with a .237 BABIP.
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They started him because they wanted Huff to play RF but Huff was so awful there that they couldn’t afford him to stay there.
Ross came off the DL and Belt was not hitting. So it was better that he go to Fresno as originally planned and get PAs there.
They obviously thought well enough about him to bring him back up a month later but then he broke his wrist.
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Also
let’s not forget something fairly tragic happen at the end of May that altered the Giants’ plan significantly.
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That point is irrelevant to this discussion.
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It's not
the urgency as to the lack of offense became extreme at the point.
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Were discussing how the Giants playing Belt and then demoting him after 17 games was colossally stupid. Not what happened on May 25th.
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I am talking about the May promotion. The original idea was to have Belt get AB at the MLB level instead of AAA and then put him in a reserve role when Ross comes back.
With his struggles, Belt was sent to AAA to get PAs rather than sit on the bench and probably expected to stay there until September. With Buster getting hurt and Huff a disaster and Belt raking it in AAA, the decision was made to bring him up.
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You don’t put a top prospect like Belt in a “reserve role.” You play him every day. Every day.
“With his struggles”… I don’t even know what to say. He played 60 games and had a .237 BABIP. Who passes judgment on a player after that much time?
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No one was "passing judgment"
It was basically a belief they rushed him. The guy had a one very good year in the minors with a completely adjusted stance.
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That is passing judgment. They made a judgment off of 60 plate appearances. They determined they rushed him after 17 games. 17 games.
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No
It was a matter of no roster spots. They originally planned him to go to Fresno but he played so well they decided that he deserved a shot at big leagues. Things didn’t work out as expected and rather have Belt sit on the bench, they had him playing in AAA and get 210 PAs.
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You mean he played well in a small sample size in Spring Training? Got it.
“Things didn’t work out as expected and rather have Belt sit on the bench, they had him playing in AAA and get 210 PAs.”
You know they could have just kept him up in the big leagues where he would have outperformed Huff?
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Maybe
but who were you going to drop from the 25 man roster? Huff?
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It would have saved us from a .678 OPS for the remainder of the season.
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Yeah, DFAing a guy you just signed to 2/22 and was worth 6 WAR last year is a great plan.
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You will discover this conversation began with the question “so the Giants should not have signed Huff?”
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Pardon the expression
but tough nuts. He got signed. Just because you didn’t like it in the first place doesn’t make it a logical move.
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Sure
Let’s not debate anything on this website ever again, because none of our conversations will affect any change.
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I didn't say that.
Once Huff was signed, cutting him on April 20 would be pretty colossally stupid without knowing how he will perform going forward.
If you think the Giants would be better off having not signed him, fine. If you think Belt shouldn’t have been sent down on April 20, fine. But you can’t just combine the two to solve the problem by making a move like cutting Huff to keep Belt, who also isn’t hitting, 3 weeks into the season. There is all kinds of bias (hindsight bias), logical fallacy (he shouldn’t have been signed in the first place, therefore it’s okay to cut him loose), and hypocrisy (ST and 3 weeks is not enough time to judge Belt, but is enough time to judge Huff) that goes into an argument like that.
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I never said we should designate Huff for assignment. You made that inference, but that’s not what I would do.
If I were put in charge of the Giants in March of 2011, I would have sent Belt to Fresno. I wouldn’t use a top prospect to plug in a hole in the roster.
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It would have saved us from a .678 OPS for the remainder of the season.
If that’s not what you would do, maybe you should just say that instead of making comments like this and then deflecting scrutiny of it.
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You can never have enough reminders of how bad Huff was
Did you know that Huff had the worst season of any qualified first basemen since Huff in 2009?
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So they didn’t do anything for two months?
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?
Brandon was called up on May 28 and played on May 29. Buster got hurt a few days earlier.
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Who cares?
We are talking about their decision to send him down in the first place.
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I meant more along the lines of “trading for a bat.”
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Well
who the heck were they going to get in May?
I am sure the thought was that Belt may be able to step in and fill that big bat role and then he broke his wrist.
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And
Torres was out that first month as well so both Ross and Torres were coming back close to each other.
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Brandon Belt was sent down April 20th. Cody Ross played his first game on May 1st.
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Baggs
In theory, the Giants could delay sending Belt to Fresno. They could send out Darren Ford instead, and let Belt hang around for another week or so until Andres Torres comes off the DL later this month.
But that would mean moving Aubrey Huff to left field (not first base) and sitting Pat Burrell, who obviously is in Bruce Bochy’s good graces and only cemented his starting job with a three-run homer Monday night. (Burrell added a pair of singles tonight.)
There’s also the matter of depth in center field. The Giants need Ford more than ever, after Aaron Rowand left in the third inning tonight because his right arm, which was struck by an Ubaldo Jimenez pitch leading off the game, was stiffening up in the cold. Ross is the only other outfielder on the roster with significant time in center, and I don’t think the Giants want to push him in his first game back from the disabled list.
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Also Cody played
on April 20 (went 0 for 4).
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You're correct
Not sure why I thought it was May 1st.
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He had been in their minor league system since he was 17. Almost 1800 PA. They had a much better idea about Freddy Freeman than it was possible for the Giants to have about Belt last year.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 3, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
It will be interesting to see
how Freeman is this year. He peaked in July last year and dropped off pretty significantly in August/September/October.
He had minor league career line of .301/.363 .472 so it would be interesting to see if he can maintain that at the MLB level.
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Thanks for that.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Jan 3, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Call me crazy
but I’m not horrified by this. Besides, you know it will change a lot from ST on.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
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Bruce Bochy: “But Pill has made enough noise to where he is gonna be pushing somebody. I think if he is not starting, he would be a good right-handed bat to come off the bench for guys starting against lefties.”
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
I like how Pill is going to be the starter against LHP
When Belt crushed LH pitching last year. Hell even Huff has been good against LHP in his career.
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It's weird how
Belt is so good against LHP but not so good against RHP.
Huff has hit RHP significantly better than LHPs.
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I'm just laughing because Pill is named the starter because he swings RH.
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I’d like to see Belt at first, but Huff has the contract. You know they’re not going to put it up there in black & white in the off season, they have to give Huff a chance to play.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
That’s fine, but I was responding to this:
FO
has already stated that Belt is likely to start at 1B and Huff play in the OF.
I heard Pilates washed his hands of any responsibility for Aubrey Huff’s performance next season.
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& can still wash his hands!
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haha
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If Lolbrey doesn't think his lack of conditioning last season was a big issue
The Giants should just cut bait right now.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Huff was sitting next to Kevin Millar on Intentional Talk show today and he didn’t looked ripped but did look like he lost weight.
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The projection thread also shows me I was very surprised how much Martie Laurie looks like Richard Dreyfuss
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The best Timmy start I saw in person
involved a certain “bloop triple” by that caveman Werth. God, I hate Wilson sometimes.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Was reading an article about tater tots
tater tots are probably the most perfect food.
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I'd rather have fries
/looks around uneasily
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They aren't even the best presentation of a potato.
That isn’t to bismirch the tater tot (I love them) but it is more testament to the versatility and yumminess of the potato. For the record my favorite is twice baked.
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I like twice baked
but there is no crunch. I mean tater tots are crunchy on the outside and little pieces of potatoes mixed in. You can add bacon and top it with cheese or sour cream!
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I don’t know, man. Even potato wedges are better. Tots are 3rd or 4th highest. AT BEST
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potato wedges have too much inner potato to skin ratio. In need of sauce.
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..
Ultra-projectable
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Jan 3, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
with a side of ranch
Ultra-projectable
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by fjm on Jan 3, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
you can even add sliced jalepeno btw bacon and tot
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by fjm on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Oh my
Delicious
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Also
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I love tator tot casserole.
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I'll take potato skins
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Yes. So good.
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Too easy to screw up
either burnt or the potato portion is too hard.
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I was assuming all food was well prepared
otherwise, I have to throw out fries and tater tots due to The overscorched fries I sometimes get, or the salt block “tots” at Sonic
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I was assuming all food was well prepared
Seriously. I mean, pie is pretty shitty too if you scorch the crust and poop in the filling.
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Hey, you don’t like my take on American classics, too bad.
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Hello
French fries. Although, it takes some serious lack of skill or dedication to overprocessing to ruin potatoes.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
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Their french fries are like normal now. Those reconstituted ones were really bad, tho.
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the sea salt one are so bland.
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Shakey's Mojo Potatoes are pretty awesome
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Happy fucking New Year to all of you.
Now back to my terrible cold. With any luck the vodka-lemon juice-honey-cayenne pepper-hot water drink will make me feel better. That, and perpetual reruns of Portlandia and Arrested Development.
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Good luck with that, the Mr. has been fighting it for something like 3 months now. The doctor today took a chest xray and said “bronchitis” …which we had kind of already figured.
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I hate to say this, but
I used to have chronic bronchitis when I was a kid and then it all cleared up when I went away to college. Years later, I got it again. Finally, the folks at Kaiser figured out it was caused by exposure to second-hand smoke at work. A lot of smoke at work. Turns out my parents’ smoking had caused my childhood problems, too.
Is it possible that your smoky neighbors are affecting your health? Get the doctors to write it down and show it to your landlord. Seriously, this might cause him to do something for fear of being sued. It’s worth a try.
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I am very interested in this.
How did your Dr. figure out it was your parents smoking that caused your childhood bronchitis?
I fought it every year. Usually in Jan or Feb.
I still can almost guarantee one winter cold will develop into a secondary infection, like right now.
Yuk.
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maybe by ruling out everything else first? There are all kinds of studies about 2nd hand smoke and how it can waft through apartment buildings. Apparently now, in California, apartments can be classified as “non-smoking”. I’d guess that gives the owners a break on insurance.
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2 Cy youngs, a WS title… pay the man. Do it this year for 6-7 years. Why do it this year? Because we have to pay him in 2013 anyway so might as well get it started now and let him walk when he is 33-34.
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understandable
What age would you be uncomfortable signing Timmy through? A 7 year deal today would put him at 34 at the conclusion. We wait a year and sign him to 7 and he is 35… also unless something horrible happens this year we will sign him next year (2013) so the real difference at this point is 6 years. He seems durable and he recovered his velocity so my opinion is barring some major health issues he should be reasonable until 32ish.
Of course this is all under the assumption the giants think he will be good into his 30s. If they don’t then they might as well trade him now for a ton. I really dont think 1 more season gives us any idea of what he will be like in later years.
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exactly, waiting a year to give him a huge deal doesn’t tell us his whether his arm blows out in 2014 or 2015. All it does is push out one more year at the end of his career we have to pay him.
Really at this point, the Giants need to make a decision, Sign him to the long deal or trade him. Really. If they dont think he will last past 30. Then get a huge haul for him now. (Because he won’t sign a 2-4 year deal. The point I am trying to get across is this… is waiting a year worth having to pay him when he is 35 instead of being done with it when he is 33 or 34?
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I guess the 3rd option is just keep going to arb and letting him walk after 2013.. which doesnt seem like a smart idea except to save money.
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It would save you a boat of money
if Timmy blows out his arm in 2012 or 2013 and/or his production drops further.
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alright.. so what happens when his production drops in 2012 and 2013? Do we just let him walk? Whats the endgame with that scenario?
alright.. so what happens when his production drops in 2012 and 2013? Do we just let him walk? Whats the endgame with that scenario?My point is if the Giants should have a good idea if they are committed to him long term at this point. If they are, get it done so he isn’t 35+ at the end of the deal. Some one will give him a long term deal so either get it done or get a package.
I'm a failure. I can't even fake the death of a stripper.
-GOB Bluth
Cheaper long term contract and less leverage for Timmy.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
you’d probably still have to sign him long term. If his production does suck then you are kind of stuck. might be less per year but will probably end up having more bad years at the end.
I'm a failure. I can't even fake the death of a stripper.
-GOB Bluth
Or
you can offer him less year and less AAV because his production has fallen.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Sigh
OK, guys, here’s the thing. You can’t just say that the Giants should sign him to a 7 year deal.
Know why? Because the Giants already control him for two more years. That means that signing Tim for a 7 year extension means that you’d be buying out 5 years of his free agency.
Why does that matter? Because there’s almost no reason in hell that Tim would agree to that, and there’s really no reason that he should.
Hell, look at how long the contracts are that pitchers are getting these days. CJ Wilson got 5 years. Lee got 6 with a big buyout on the 7th. Those guys were both OVER 30. Lincecum will be under 30 when he becomes a free agent.
Tim Lincecum knows for a fact that unless he suffers some sort of catastrophic injury, he’s almost guaranteed to get AT LEAST 6 years when he becomes a free agent. He could probably get more.
That means that if you want want to extend Lincecum, the conversation starts with an 8-year deal. That is the base. You can dream all you want about extending him for fewer than that, but it isn’t going to happen.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Satchel Price @SatchelPrice 11m
A good point from a reader at @mlbdailydish: Beltran signing for 2/26 seems pretty solid now compared to Crisp’s 2/14.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Again, this presupposes that Beltran will stay healthy.
Which was enough of a concern that several clubs balked.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
And it would have likely cost more than 2/26
for the Giants to get Beltran had they been in the bidding.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
My A's friend just had the best response to the Crisp deal I think I will ever hear:
that doesn’t bother me
i guess they need smoeone who’s played before on the team
it helps to have baseball players on your baseball team
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
A's fan friend of course.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
A "friend".
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Friends!
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
We presented one of these to Vida Blue. He seemed to like it.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I got one of these for Xmas one year.
I’m pretty sure I traded it to a friend of mine for lots of penny candy.
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
lol old.
1993 modern.
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
I'm not saying this hat dates from 1993, I'm saying that it's a modern recreation of the original.
The proof being the SF logo that doesn’t match those worn in the 1989 World Series that spawned these abominations.
If I had to guess, I’d say the hat pictured above is part of the creatively bankrupt nostagia-fueled fetishization of all things early-90s and hideous that is currently swamping popular culture.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
gotcha. just trying to be funny.
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
Well, you’re not, ok? YOU’RE NOT!
/runs away sobbing hot tears of frustration and rage
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
All the new guys might get lost on the way to the stadium. A lost player doesn’t contribute.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
it helps to have baseball players on your baseball team
We’ve seen the A’s outfield; this is kind of an important consideration.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Gonna get MLB.TV this season.
Who do I need to talk to about getting earlier start times for home games?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
You did not answer my question, sir!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
You could also just pretend there is no daylight savings time…
Sorry- I’m not sure who to talk to, but you could try calling 311 or pressing the little button inside your car.
HELLO IS THIS ONSTAR? I’M VERY ANGRY!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
4 years in NYC
taught me to just live with sleep deprivation after watching games until 1-1:30am. Considering I was there from 2004-2008, I stayed up many a late night for jack squat.
Ultra-projectable
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Jan 3, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
That’s the thing, I don’t want to be staying up watching 0-1 losses all season. I’ll just wait for roadtrips for that.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
At least the games will be fast. If a Yanks/Sox game started at 10pm EST it wouldn’t end until 3am.
Is it February 19 yet?
by j14 on Jan 3, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Jack Squat was an ornery lover
Ultra-projectable
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Jan 3, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
He was a good friend of mine
Ultra-projectable
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Jan 3, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
I never understood a single word he said
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
But I helped him a-drink his wine
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
The key is to know when to tap out on a game
I would stay up for many close games, but you have to sometimes tap out when they’re down 3-1 in the 7th.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Or 1-0 in the 4th.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Or any road trip to San Diego.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I guess what we're saying is,
Just get a subscription to Netflix instead.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
But then you would have missed this..
Check the innings and the losing pitcher. These 1-0 losses are not a new thing.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I got home in the sixth that night
and thought seriously about heading over to the park, but nahhhh… game’ll be over by the time I get there. Well, they ARE going extra innings, maybe I should… nahhh….
and on, and on…
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
heck even I’d like that! and I’m in the same time zone. We’ve decided to switch to radio at 8pm so we can get to bed at a decent hour [iow an hour from which waking up at 6am isn’t horrifying]
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
In market?
If you know someone with a computer or server out of market they would let you remote control, you could watch it on that, use knbr for play by play. Maybe you could pipe sound too. Otherwise a full on proxy you need to setup a VPN to a remote firewall device or server, and that’s complicated and possibly money for a 3rd party.
Blerg
I'm out of market but I've considered using a proxy to watch local games on Sunday Ticket before. Never pulled the trigger though.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
ah I get it then
I was thinking you were going to wait the 90 minutes after games are over to watch, silly me.
Blerg
There’s no way they let him walk without offering everything they’ve got. Too big a PR hit if he leaves without making him a truly giant offer (pun intended).
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
Especially after saying they need to conserve money for the Gold Standard Pitching.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Can someone translate this?
Brian McTaggart @brianmctaggart 4m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
The Astros have hired Sig Mejdal as Director of Decision Sciences and Stephanie Wilka as Coordinator of Amateur Scouting.
Retweeted by Ben Badler
Sig = numbers geek
Stephanie = Woman in charge of scouting
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
That’s what I thought, but I was having a hard time believing. I am also amuses that the stats nerd is named “Sig”. Does he sign his name “ÎŁ”
If he’s a self respecting geek he damn well better.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Or a self respecting Greek
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
it does seem a bit chest pounding...
like “HEY WE USE SCIENCE!” but I am growing increasingly jelous of the once dumb organizations at least making an effort to be “smart”
GIANTS BASEBALL: HOPE LIKE HELL!
Yep.
In Marketing:
Customers’ diverse desires coupled with multiple purposes pose a problem for marketing, particularly for modeling consumer behavior. In trying to identify cost-effective marketing tactics and strategies, we generally try to build models based on commonalities that define subgroups. For example, subgroups might include impulse buyers, style buyers, value buyers, status buyers and brand buyers, each representing a particular cluster of a few dimensions. Such categories, however, are rarely a good match, often individuals are members of different categories at different times.
From the article “Disjunctive Mapping” in this month’s ORMS Today magazine, the official magazine of INFORMS, The Institute for Operations Research and the Management Sciences.
it’s a bit like statistics + game theory
Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.
by oldjacket on Jan 3, 2012 6:23 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
A forward-thinking, nay, "with-it" front office
Stephanie Wilka as Coordinator of Amateur Retweeting
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Y'all should check out my new avatar.
I <3 Natto.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 3, 2012 3:54 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Nice.
/cue 1000 responses asking Natto to make them one.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jan 3, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
I like to think of it as payment for running the McCoven Awards. :)
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 3, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, do I follow you on Twitter? If not, I want to.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 3, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
you do- i just go by my real name (which may come as a surprise to you is not “Capn”) on twitter. but you follow me. Good luck figuring out who I am though
I can't wait
Until this type of situation is highlighted on a “very special” episode of Whitney
Ultra-projectable
I feel like I want to rage. Right now.
by fjm on Jan 3, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Aye, capn.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 3, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
I’m really bad with following people on Twitter. I don’t use it that often, and new actual followers often get lost among the spambot ones.
I have to go through my list of followers every so often so I can make sure I’m following the good ones.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 3, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
I started Twitter yesterday to try to get hip, and so far I’ve gotten like 20 spambot porn chicks following me.
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
I have plenty of that crap, but I get some good followers, too. Occasionally, a minor leaguer will retweet me or something like that, and I pick up followers that way.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 3, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Lars retweeted me and all I got was a DUI Legal spambot follower.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 3, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
I have like 40 followers but get so much from twitter regardless. So many nuggets of cool stuff.
Blerg
yea, I’ll get the hang of it eventually. It’s part of my delving into the iPhone (see thread below)
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
Tweet deck is great
Not sure if it’s iOS or not. Tip: save #SFGiants hashtag in a column, or any other htag you are interested in. Sponsored accounts usually promote Tate to keep them active.
Blerg
Cool stuff
/is jealous
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
jay_jaffe Jay Jaffe
@
@LADodgerReport Montero + Banuelos or Betances for Garza, according to various sources
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM PST reply actions
Woh
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Yanks gettin’ fleeced.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Normally I would be happy about that. But not by the Dodgers.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
The Cubs are doing the fleecing
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
took me a second to decode it too.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I feel like I should just show myself out now.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Garza is on the Cubs
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Theo strikes again.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
That's crazy stupid.
The kind of crazy stupid you only find in the Northeas….oh nevermind.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
1B probably
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Or they could flip him to an AL team for something else
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
When Ubaldo Jimenez was a target of the Yankees last season, it was said the Rockies would use Montero at first.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
MLB Trade Rumors says otherwise
The Cubs’ asking price for Matt Garza is “out of the question” for the Yankees, Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork.com wrote yesterday.
Sherman says the Yankees are “essentially not in” on Garza.
The Yankees are actively seeking rotation help, but don’t like Garza at his current price, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter).
.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Love that subtle mouth action!
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
TWSS!
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Played you all like fish
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
You can tune a piano but you can’t tuna fish.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Two birds are sitting on a perch when one turns to the other and says, “Do you smell something fishy?”.
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
I never understand the Simpsons references.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
The Garza story emerged
then immediately remerged.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Wow?
Seriously???
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Do the Cubs have anything of value? Too bad the Giants view Belt so poorly. They could probably get something decent back in return for him. Oh well. They’ll just wait for him to flame out and trade him when his value’s lowest.
Kind of?
and here’s what Fangraphs says
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
*Maybe* Ben Wells?
Maybe? I mean, I’m thinking in terms of what the Giants might ask for/receive and what the Cubs might be willing to give up in exchange for 5 years of that shit stain Brandon Belt.
Side note
Are the Cubs the only organizations going after Koreans?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
The CIA if you count North Korea.
Okay, I apologize. That was truly awful and perhaps in bad taste. My holiday hiatus from MCC has made me extremely rusty.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
I don't mind the comment
Nor do I mind the CIA going after North Korea
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
The CIA is too busying killing Iranian nuclear scientists to bother with North Korea
They will get to them later.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
I thought that was Mossad?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
They support Iranian terrorists who blow civilians up.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
We need another Church Committee.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The NBA should change the rules to give teams only 1 timeout per half
And intentional fouls that occur in the last 2 minutes of a game should be automatic technicals.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 4:43 PM PST reply actions
They should just randomly end games when the clock reaches 2 minutes.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Or, like musical chairs the game could just randomly stop at some time between 2 minutes left and 0 minutes left.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
It’s like stoppage time in soccer
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 3, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
BOOM
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Standard
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
The sorcery speed part of it kind makes it pretty shitty.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
It's more of an instant but only ono your turn.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
One timeout a game including over time! Like hockey
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
The NBA should cease to exist.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
My prediction for Matt Cain
10-11
IP: 250
ERA: 2.61
BB: 10
K: 218
HR: 13
Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Madison Bumgarner,
L2WIN.
FFFFFFFfff...
One of these years I’ll figure out the trick involved in turning off the ps3… stupid machine.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
finally…after like 2 minutes of hitting the off button in a million different ways.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
you don’t just hold the PS button down?
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Jan 3, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Ha! as if… if the thing is off… and you look hard enough at the button it turns itself on. If it is already on you can mess with that damn button for days before it decides to turn off. Sometimes it’s faster to look for and find the remote, turn the tv back on and go through all the menu stuff and turn it off. I think it’s a plot to keep you playing longer.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
The Xbox on/off button is very appealing to me.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Iowa Caucus Predictions?
I got Santorum winning but Romney a close 2nd.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I don’t care comes in 1st
closely followed by
meh, so what
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I would like for a candidate to be named
Mittens
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
This joke is always funny.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
by Solidarity on Jan 3, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Money will buy Romney the election.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Not being out of his fucking mind will buy Romney the election.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Almost every other candidate has polled better than him at one time or another. He has a a ceiling of around 20-25%. The conservative base of the party is distrustful of him. Many social conservatives refuse to support a Mormon. All it would take is an acceptable alternative with enough money to beat. It’s a weak field this election.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
The problem is that every other alternative has failed to be acceptable. Pretty much everyone has taken a turn in the lead, and every single one has wilted under scrutiny. Because they are bad candidates. The Republicans don’t trust Romney, but they’re going to wind up voting for him anyway. He’s the Republic John Kerry.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
This is pretty much right
The only reason we’ve seen so many “front runners” is because a certain sizable faction of the Republican party doesn’t like Romney. And it’s totally stupid because Romney has the best shot at beating Obama.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Fare thee well, Carlos. We don't need you apparently.
This is the conventional wisdom, but it’s not true. Romney has a lot of weaknesses. He’s a very wealthy Wall Street type who has constantly flip-flopped on important issue and who doesn’t even have strong support within his own party.
Obama will have a billion dollars to spend destroying Romney in the general election.
The main reason why the a lot Republicans have endorsed Romney is because he’s viewed as a safe candidate who wont bring the part down with him.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
But the statement "he has the best shot against Obama" is true.
Though it might be more accurately phrased “he has the least-worst shot against Obama.”
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
Jon Huntsman, Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal would be better in my opinion.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
They might be better.
But would they do better?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Dude won the governor seat in Massachusetts
He’s also fared well against Obama in several polls.
Not that either of those guarantees a victory or even doing well. But I think that writing him off is silly. I mean, I remember a conversation I had with somebody a couple of months ago that said Romney has no shot at winning the nomination. Yeah, so much for that.
And he’s certainly got the best shot of all the candidates. I like Huntsman but he’s not even liked in his own state.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Fare thee well, Carlos. We don't need you apparently.
I think another financial crash similar to ’08 would go in his favor. Baring a major event, I see Obama picking him apart.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
And the fact that Santorum got voted out in Pennsylvania
seems a lot more telling than his strong showing in the Iowa primary.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
I forgot about that. LOL
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
GiantPain! to the rescue:
I took an even-money Romney V. The Field bet the other day – I bet the field.
Then again, my even money bets don’t exactly have a track record of success.
PAY ME MY TWENTY BUCKS YOU CHEAPSKATE
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Any candidate who becomes a legitimate threat to Romney in this election will be barraged with negative ad’s. Everyone has something about them to attack. That’s why the political experts and analyst always mention Rick Perry as the only one who can compete with Romney. I like Rick Santorum and John Huntsman, but they have no shot without money.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
Rick Santorum never had a shot.
Huntsman would be decent, but yes. He lacks funding. Like Romney, his is also bland and Mormon.
The Daily Show put it best: If you have to pick a Baldwin? …You’re going to go with Alec. And that’s Romney.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Rick Santorum never had a shot
And yet he could win Iowa tonight. That could propel him as the main alternative to Romney.
Like Romney, his is also bland and Mormon.
I don’t see him that way. He’s intelligent and considerate. He has a unique background. His father could offer him a lot of support in the money department. I see him as next in line behind Romney.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Santorum has no money. More likely than not, he’s not going to win any other state.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Huntsman is absolutely not happening.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
This election.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
And yet he could win Iowa tonight. That could propel him as the main alternative to Romney.
No. This is a joke based on the overblown focus on Iowa.
Santorum has concentrated all of his organization there and has expended almost no effort in other states.
If anything a Santorum win helps Romney: it takes IA off the table for any of the other contenders without presenting a challenge in SC or NH or anywhere else.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Like Huckabee.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Huntsman seems like an ok dude. But he's pulling 2% nationally.
That’s worse than his Iowa numbers, and he gave up on Iowa in favor of focussing on New Hampshire.
He and Romney are too similar in the eyes of Republican voters: Mormons with dubious conservative credentials like Romneycare and Huntsman’s service in the Obama administration.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Palin?
Romney.
Gingrich!
Romney.
Bachmann!
Romney.
Perry!
Romney.
Cain!
Romney.
Christie?
Romney.
Gingrich again!
Romney.
Paul!
Romney.
San…torum?
Conclusions to be drawn: LOL Jon Huntsman.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Here’s a good post about that very thing by Matt Taibbi.
That sounds like a glib take on a free election system that allows the public to choose whichever candidate it likes best without any censorship or overt state interference, so be it. But the ugly reality, as Dylan Ratigan continually points out, is that the candidate who raises the most money wins an astonishing 94% of the time in America.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
That strikes me as more correllation than causation
99% of the time, the candidate who raises the most money is the best candidate.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Whoops. You bastards pulled me in.
I’m gonna go talk about Jose Reyes somewhere.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Best candidate for those who can donate a bajillion dollars, yeah.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
You misunderstand me
When I say “best candidate”, I don’t mean the best person or whatever. That’s subjective. I mean the candidate more likely to win because they’re ideologically aligned with their district or state or what have you.
I mean, this isn’t that “astonishing” when you consider the following facts:
Incumbents win more than 90% of all elections.
Incumbents (almost) always raise more money than challengers.
Therefore, you’d expect over 90% of races to be won by the candidate who has more money.
Incumbents only became incumbents because they were the best candidate at least once, so it’s highly likely that they’ll be the best candidates again.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
You’re saying they get all of the money because they are the best candidate. What if they are the best candidate because they get all of the money?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Well, because most people who raise more money than their opponents are incumbents
And almost all incumbents are incumbents because they won an election already.
And if they won an election already, it’s more likely that they’re going to win another one.
And people who are going to win raise more money than people who are not going to win.
Now, if you wanted to do a real study about the effect of money in politics, you’d have to be much more specific.
You’d have to look only at open-seat races with no incumbent, and you’d have to look only at competitive districts where, theoretically, both sides have an equal chance of winning. And you’d have to exclude races where one candidate sucked and slipped up or had a personal scandal. Then you might come close to determining the effect of money in elections.
Anything short of that sort of rigor is just babble.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Haha just babble.
That might be the most condescending thing I’ve encountered in a long time.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
So what you’re saying is that money doesn’t buy elections, elections buy money!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
What about fluke election nights? We should be estimating the true talent of these politicans.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
ginrich gotta go
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
dude couldn’t hit water if he fell outta a point
romnee plays well and can hit a bit
i bleed red, i bleed red
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
by speckops on Jan 4, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
romnee unrated?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
The Iowa caca
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
I R 5
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
Whom do you owe it to?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 3, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
1. Romney
2. Paul
3. Santorum
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
EARLY LEAD FOR RON PAUL
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
three-way tie woooo
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I HAVE A POLITICAL QUESTION FOR YOU?
Do you giggle when you hear the word: “Caucus”?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
ShanghaiJim almost gave me a heart attack with his last tweet
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I thought it was funny.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I would take Timmy over Cain.
But why do people always compare the two, and eventually most opt for Cain (especially the KNBR crowd). Lincecum has swing and miss stuff, and even in August 2010 was still striking people out. Having said that, I would favor extending Cain instead of Lincecum if the team were treating the next couple of years as the window – in other words, don’t exend Timmy and go year by year for two years. In order to have Cain in the fold you need to sign him to at least five years, but you can always trade him before the end of the deal if you decide you would rather sign Timmy (I think eventually they will have to pick one just because they can not have two $20MM guys on the staff).
The problem with this is that my approach would have meant going for it in the short-term and signing an impact player like Reyes. I would settle for that and accept that either Timmy or Cain would be gone after two years. You just hope they make some noise in the next two years.
We had a 4 year year window to win a world series with this rotation
We won it in year 1.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Maybe, but then why even bother with the silly moves they made.
I mean really, if they are content bump back the payroll down to $100MM by not signing Affeldt or making the Cabrera deal. Just plug Belt in left instead. I guess that is only $10MM. Still, they could have tried to rest on that in all seriousness, and made a half hearted effort over the next period. I actually think Sabean is trying. Also, 2010 must be year 2 since Cain will be gone after this year unless he signs long-term.
Except
the payroll is $130 million this year.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Well, there are some decent reasons to opt for Cain over Lincecum, if it comes to it:
- Cain will probably be cheaper than Lincecum
- Cain is likely to be nearly as good as Lincecum over the next six years
- Cain has a physique and delivery that are (at least stereotypically) more likely to be more durable
- There are one or two worries about a trend of some decline in Lincecum’s performaces over the last two years compared to earlier
- there are hints that Cain might be easier to deal with or wants to stay more
- Cain’s contract comes up first meaning a decision on Cain is required sooner anyway (ie it would be risky to trade Cain this year only to be unable to agree a deal with Lincecum, meaning we lose both).
You don’t have to buy into all of these (I don’t). But there are reasons why a strong case could be made for Cain.
by DiggingForFire on Jan 4, 2012 7:32 AM PST up reply actions
Sup
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
how's it hanging
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
NATTO!!
TELL ME ABOUT YOUR GRAVITY!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Gravity, man. It keeps bringing me down.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
/ends up being a character at Disneyland.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Natto would make a great Sleeping Beauty
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
I’m hoping for a hookup
how do you feel about waitresses, Natto?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I don’t bother jctGamer’s waitress.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I have never watched the Bachelor before
but the the women on this year’s show are insanely attractive.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I was changing the channels yeaterday and happened upon Baseball Wives
It was the worst thing ever. Baseball players have no taste in women.
Well, that is unfair. Those particular baseball players have bad taste in women.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
I hear Melissa Benson was not very attractive in that show
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
They were all outrageously bitchy and shallow
I wanted them all to catch on fire.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
you would be too if your husband is surrounded by hot women 8 months out of the year
that are throwing themselves at him
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I watched about 2 minutes of that show
those women looked horrible and that was only in SD. I cannot image how awful they look in HD.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Those particular women did not age well
Also, keep in mind that it was a self-selecting group of women desperate for fame and money. Their spouses weren’t exactly All-Stars.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jan 3, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
Brandon McCarthy’s wife is WONDERFUL
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Jan 3, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
Funny, my neighbor is the founder and now CEO of an on-line neighborhood for kids that was recently purchased by Disney. I wonder if it is the same.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
if you get it, I think I’m in the same building.
Mark DeRosa , he had his moments.
by oldjacket on Jan 3, 2012 9:15 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Looks like we won't know this year if we should've bid on him..
The Yankees aren’t likely to sign Japanese shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima by Friday’s 4pm CDT deadline, one person with knowledge of the situation told Marc Carig of the Star Ledger. The Yankees see Nakajima as a bench player and intend to pay him like a backup, Carig reports on Twitter.
In theory, the Yankees have until Friday evening to sign Nakajima. However, they’d have to complete a physical by that point, so there’s not much time remaining. The 29-year-old hit .297/.354/.433 with 16 home runs and 27 doubles in 633 plate appearances for the Seibu Lions in 2011. Legacy Sports represents him in the U.S.
The Yankees won the rights to Nakajima with a bid in the $2MM range last month. If the sides don’t agree to terms, Nakajima would stay in Japan and the Yankees wouldn’t have to part with the posting fee. If the Yankees don’t sign Nakajima, Eduardo Nunez’s role becomes clearer and the chances of a new deal with Eric Chavez would likely increase.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
It's interesting
cuz they totally could do the sign and trade.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
N-O-T
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
OK, so people crapped on the Giants for not bidding on him...
…but couldn’t this be a case where lots of teams have scouted him and they’re just not impressed?
If the winning bid was so low, that means that a helluva lot of teams didn’t even bother. I know the Giants have a need, but the mlb groupthink was apparently not sold on him.
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
I think people just see “shortstop” here and start foaming at the mouth.
We’ve been deprived for so long.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
in reality
just one year
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 3, 2012 8:26 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
if the sbnation people knew the kind of things Grant warns people with…
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Tell me about it
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
I've only gotten one warning before
Goofus almost banned me for tearing into GRM :x
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I got a warning for a personal attack
and a joke warning from jponry.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I'm late
but Sickels’s grades for our system seem kind of generous
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He had a lot of nice things to say about Panik which I liked
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
yeah I'm starting to get a little excited about the Brown & Panik combo
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I can't wait for all the WHAT CAN BROWN DO FOR YOU and WE DELIVER jokes
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
OT Dark Souls
As difficult as advertised. I’ve played maybe 2 hours, read a short intro/ tip site and am on my second build. I’m still on first level past the tutorial. Brutal. The pyromancer was way too soft for my first character.
Blerg
More OT: iPhone Apps
I’m sure that this has been covered extensively already, but seeing how I just got an iPhone this is now a totally important (albeit self-absorbed) question for the McCoven:
Favorite iPhone App?
I’ll start. I like Flipboard. Informative, eye appealing, and free.
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
this is sort of a politics tweet
but it isn’t endorsing any particular candidate and is more about the SICK BURN
Ron Paul
@jonhuntsman we found your one Iowa voter, he’s in Linn precinct 5 you might want to call him and say thanks.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Ron Paul’s pretty pumped about his Kelly Clarkson endorsement, huh?
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jan 3, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
I see no such tweet on @RonPaul or @RepRonPaul.
I encourage you to check out Fish Stripes, Catch-28 and my twitter.
it was deleted
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
some intern is about to get fired
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Due to excessive dickishness
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 3, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
LOL – but then put back up.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Wow
The primaries always amuse me so much because these candidates spend all this time ripping into each other only to turn around and say “vote for person so and so who I said was totally unqualified” once somebody wins the nomination
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Fare thee well, Carlos. We don't need you apparently.
Was this rumor confirmed?
Timmy wants an 8 year deal at around 20 million a year? I’d do that in a heartbeat. We get all his prime years. We get a pitcher that from all appearances looks like a sure fire hall of famer. We get the face of our franchise. And we get him at what will probably end up being a bargain.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 5:51 PM PST reply actions
I'd be pretty terrified of doing that
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Barry Zito says hi.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah, 8 years is probably not a good idea
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
So..you believe lincecum will, at 35, no longer be an elite pitcher?
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
he hasn't really been elite the last two years
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
18th in the majors in FIP last year isn't elite?
I encourage you to check out Fish Stripes, Catch-28 and my twitter.
when I think of "elite" starters
I’m thinking of 6-8 fWAR
4.4-4.6 or whatever is very, very good but I wouldn’t call it elite.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I mean
I’d think of elite (the pitchers I’d want to give $20+ million a year) as being better than 18th, yes.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I’m looking right now, but how many pitchers have ever maintained 7+ WARs? My first choice was Clemens and he had 9 of them in total.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
I’m fairly certain that if you look at most pitchers considered to be elite HoF types, they’d have done it.
The thing is that based on FG’s $/WAR (which I think most people think gives TOO MUCH $ per WAR), Tim’s been worth less than $20 mil the last two years.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Roy has 3 7’s and 3 6s. Nothing like Timmy’s 2 Cy years.
Unit has 3 8’s and 3 7s. His first Timmy Cy caliber season was at age 31. Most of his other years are about in line w/ Timmy.
Maddux: 2 7’s 2 8’s and a bunch of stuff right around Timmy the last two years.
Pedro: 1 7, 2 8’s and a 10. The rest was Timmy like.
I am pretty sure these would be considered the 5 best pitchers of the past 20 years.
Timmy fits in with them perfectly and is actually way ahead of where any of them were at this point in their careers. Well, around the same as Clemens.
Do you really think Timmy is more Zito like or more in line with these 5?
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
Huh? Halladay has put up two 8+ seasons.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Fangraphs has Maddux with 8 years of 7+ WAR
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
RJ has 9 years of 7+ WAR
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
And the fact that Tim’s two big seasons came earlier in his career do not necessarily mean that he will be better going forward than they were.
You have to be concerned that Tim’s a 4.5 WAR pitcher going forward instead of 7.5. I want him to bounce back to being truly elite next year but I’m not sure it’s going to happen.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I’m looking at BB-Ref.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
bb-ref or fangraphs
the same thing goes. first two years were elite, but the last two years have been a step back.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
My point is that even the elite pitchers aren’t elite statistically every year. Timmy has had four years in a row among the very best in the game. He also is a physical anomaly and appears to be growing as a pitcher. He has not reached his full potential yet.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
we don’t actually know that. there are plenty of other pitchers in history who started with a bang, then regressed and didn’t return to their previous level of performance.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
This is true.
I ask you, throwing statistics out the door, just based on what you see happening on the field and what you hear and read:
Do you believe Timmy is a once in a lifetime special pitcher, or just another ballplayer who has ups and downs.
I see him as a once in a lifetimer. I’d give him a 13 year deal and say, you are a Giant for life and I would be confident that when all is said and done, he will be worth it.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
throwing statistics out the door is not a good idea.
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
Three years later, the man was sitting at home and the doorbell rang.
He opened the door and looked down to see the statistics standing there.
The statistics looked up at him and said, “WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT??”
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I remember Game 1 of the NLDS. I also remember August 2010, and mechanical issues in 2011.
He is mortal. To this point, Cain has shown more consistency than Lincecum, if a lower peak. Sadly, that probably makes Cain a better investment.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I think he's very special, but not once in a lifetime
I would prefer not give him eight years
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
cain has a losing career. guess that doesnt get mentioned
by orange velvet on Jan 3, 2012 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Why would it?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 3, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
Third starter
at best.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yes. 19.6 million each year. I’d bet that if you add in 2010 Postseason it goes over $20 million.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
you are the only i have heard say lincecum is not elite or
the 18th ranked pitcher in the league.
by orange velvet on Jan 3, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
66 starts, 40 with 2 runs or less given up. Another 9 where he gave up 3 runs. Great postseason.
What would qualify as elite?
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
I would probably go as much as 5 years plus a team option/buyout
And even then, I would be wincing as he signed the contract.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 3, 2012 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't ask me, but I'll answer too if that's ok.
No. I believe that 8 years is too long of a contract for any pitcher (esp. at 20 mil). Too fragile.
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
This is, I believe, why most people balk at the idea. Lincecum has proven to be different than other pitchers. There has never been another quite like him. He is basically unquantifiable. So it is a gamble.
I’d rather gamble that he is one of the best ever than let someone else reap the rewards. I’m surprised that so many people are pessimistic about Timmy’s future.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
how has he proven to be different than other pitchers?
his two Cy Young years, but the last two years don’t seem remarkable to me
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He is basically unquantifiable.
This is pretty much putting your fingers in your ears and going LALALATIMLINCECUMLALALA." It’s not really productive. It’s up there with, “Derek Jeter’s value cannot be overstated.”
There are plenty of numbers you can use to quantify Tim Lincecum. If you can’t use those to come up with a reasonable deal, then I’m pretty unlikely to ever let you borrow my pen.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
On the other hand, I’m pretty certain Timmy won’t have to sign a reasonable deal with anyone.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Yeah, though I wouldn’t be surprised to see him shun the largest offer to in order to play where he wants to play, either.
Stated another way, I doubt he wants to play in Boston or New York.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Mariners.
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
They would probably have to trade Felix, or have Ichiro off the books, in order for that to happen. Much as it’s a logical fit.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
agreed
I mention the Mariners because I believe he’d take less to play there instead of NY or Boston (for example).
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
My point is that the reason, it seems, that people are afraid of a long deal is the injury risk. Most people would jump on board if they knew he would stay healthy all 8 years.
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by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
If I thought he could stay healthy all 8 years and maintain 4+ fWAR for every year of the deal, I’d do it. But I don’t know if I think that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Not necessarily.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Most people would jump on board if they knew he would stay healthy all 8 years.
Well, yeah, but that’s pretty much unknowable. Unless you’re from the future.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
This is why I say he is unquantifiable. I’d rather gamble that he be healthy than fear he won’t and let someone else take the gamble. I’d rather get burned on a Lincecum contract than on one that is obviously bad like Zito’s.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Jan 3, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
Just because it’s not perfectly quantifiable or projectable doesn’t mean that we have to put our hands over our eyes and pick blindly. You look at pitchers who were similar to Tim and then you make your best guess going from there.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Hard to be wrong or right here
I’d love to lockup Tim. I think it’s just a negotiating point to a 5-7 year deal. I’m guessing 5+1 yr option.
Blerg
well, yea.
But there is NO WAY to know if he’ll stay healthy for 8 years. I love Timmy, but injuries to pitchers (especially ones over 30) are absolutely quantifiable.
I’d prefer 4 years at 90 mil. He gets more money, Giants assume less risk, and if he stays healthy, another 4 years at an even higher contract for him would be in order. win win.
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
That contract you are imagining will never happen.
I encourage you to check out Fish Stripes, Catch-28 and my twitter.
It’s not win win. The Giants would make out like bandits on a deal like that. If Lincecum blows out an arm or goes Zito after three years, he’d lose 10s of millions of dollars that he could have secured by taking a guaranteed longer term deal at a lower per year rate.
by DiggingForFire on Jan 4, 2012 7:39 AM PST up reply actions
I think someone brought up the point that if the Giants are going to do it no matter what
Might be a good idea to do it now so you could at least buyout two arb years
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
OT: Seperated at Birth?
http://www.mercurynews.com/giants
(Purdy Article) Charles Johnson and Walter Donovan of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade fame?
OT: gmail
Before Mr. Merope throws the iphone out the window… is there an app for accessing gmail on an iphone ?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
You can make gmail your default email on an iPhone
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
this.
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
not all the functionality is there…?
he doesn’t have an “archive” ability.
(don’t ask me, my phone just makes phone calls)
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
you are now talking over my head as well. My emails aren’t important enough to archive.
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
Archiving is awesome
You can auto filter/archive auto emails like pizza orders or groupons. I can access if wanted, but doesn’t clutter the inbox. Gmail has it on web client. I never saw on my android mail prog.
Blerg
It seems fitting that you're weighing in on this.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Are you sure it doesn’t? I remember seeing archive as one of the functions.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jan 3, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
tried this yet?
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series. It's a girl.
Tell me why I should follow you on Twitter.
did they just re-release that? they had one out and it didn’t work.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
He said he just d/l’d that one and is playing around with it.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
so you don’t need a special app for it, to my knowledge
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 3, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
You can also try installing gmail as an exchange account.
Additional functionality and syncing this way.
It also matters what you try to sync with on the local computer as well.
There are several combinations that just do not work.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Ozzie Guillen's twitter is pretty hilarious right now.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I turn on CNN to check on the election coverage
And theyre interviewing the Duggars..
I hate cable news
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
We’re watching some baseball countdown on mlb network.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Why would you turn on CNN?
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I didn't feel like getting yelled at by Fox News or MSNBC
Turns out the correct answer was none of the above and just keep following Nate Silver’s NYTimes liveblog
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
The Mr. put on CNN earlier to see what was going and they were showing them literally counting the ballot-dealies. eighty-two, eighty-three, eighty-four, eighty-five, eighty-six YES CNN WE KNOW HOW TO COUNT.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
/orders C-SPAN’s cameras to be turned off
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 7:44 AM PST up reply actions
Correct answer is don’t tune in at all. I staved off cynicism for years, but this election cycle has completely soured me. What we have are fickle, willfully ignorant people voting on bumblers and confidence tricksters, egged on by a bored, lazy, and desperate media. Everyone is encouraging everyone else’s worst tendencies. It’s a carnival of glitz and lies and stupidity. And some funnel cake.
by Monkeyking42 on Jan 3, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I prefer funnel pie.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
/first shot fired
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I lol'd.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I used to be really involved in politics, now I’m not. Mostly because I was.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
/resists making an arrow to the knee joke
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I held an elected office on the county level, what a pain in the ass. People always had great ideas, until it came time to get off their asses and actually implement them. Then….not so much. I served out my time and never went back.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’ll be honest: I’m having a blast, in a “you can’t write this stuff” kind of way.
Can’t get enough of it.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Correct answer is don’ttunelog in at all. I staved off McCynicism for years, but thiselection cycleoffseason has completely soured me. What we haveareis a fickle, willfully ignorantpeoplecommentariatvotinghating on bumblers and confidence tricksters, egged on by a bored, lazy, and desperatemediaGrant. Everyone is encouraging everyone else’s worst tendencies. It’s a carnival of glitz and lies and stupidity. And some funnel cake vs pie.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
Via Glenn Greenwald:
As I’ve written about before, America’s election season degrades mainstream political discourse even beyond its usual lowly state. The worst attributes of our political culture — obsession with trivialities, the dominance of horserace "reporting," and mindless partisan loyalties — become more pronounced than ever.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Great
CNN projects who will be third
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 3, 2012 8:00 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Ozzie Guillen @OzzieGuillen 13m
The bulls martinez escobar infante tu eres un fish
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Ozzie Guillen @OzzieGuillen 11m
O Junior still care about soxs players cut the crab lol lol u are a fish now
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Ozzie Guillen @OzzieGuillen 10m
They tread u like pupu
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Ozzie Guillen @OzzieGuillen 7m
Ok sorry crap my english is worst now cause iam in venezuela lol
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I didn’t realize that “I am in Venezuela” was a term for being drunk.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
My response was
“I didn’t realize Chicago and Miami are part of Venezuela”
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Logan Morrison @LoMoMarlins 1m
I really hope Ozzies on-field instructions r easier 2 understand than his tweets. I literally have no idea what this dude is talking about..
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Hey, Justin Christian! Into the stands…….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ozzie Guillen @OzzieGuillen 3m
@lomomarlins if you need instructiones you are in big troble with me. Good players dont need that lol. Happy new years
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
you are in big troble with me
LoMO! You go’ som’ ‘SPLAININ’ to doooo!
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh man
I forgot how good that Lincecum script was. I want to watch that movie.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Giants 2012 FOX appearances: http://giants.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/broadcasts/national.jsp?c_id=sf. They have 9 scheduled, tied with teams like the Yankees, Red Sox and Cubs.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Damnit
I hate the stupid fox games
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
They have 9 scheduled, tied with teams like the Yankees, Red Sox and Cubs.
This can only mean the Giants market is large. Of course, Giants ownership doesn’t want you to know it.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
You lost me at
This can only mean
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Keep living in your closed-off little world. Fox is in the business of making money and they see opportunity with the Giants.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutists and conspiracists live in a closed-off little world. I’m just open to exploring multiple explanations.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
multiple explanations
The Giants are run like a corporation with many shareholders who expect to share in the profits. Money is most important to these people when it comes to the team. It is their main motivation.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen, one thousand words on the New Jersey Nets.
Or perhaps the story of the 2011 NBA.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 8:12 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Oops.
Ginormous.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
That’s cartoonish.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
OT: Tree is down
And I’m happy to report that this year the cat did not pee under the tree. So there’s that.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Yay! I only put up the Charlie Brown tree this year. Undecorating was a snap!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Haha
We had a Charlie Brown tree this year too. The only two places in town that sell them were sold out after the 1st week in December! We decided just to get a small fake one and keep it as a backup.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Yeah I have a small fake one, I was too lazy to drag it out. We haven’t had a real or big tree since this cat came along. She climbs everything. Shower curtains, chimneys, bookshelves, window blinds….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
This is going to make me sound like a condescending
I understand that by adding that qualifier means that yes the following statement is jackassish
But it really really bothers mean when people refer to the song of ice and fire series as game of thrones. The t.v series is the game of thrones series. The first book is game of thrones. The book series is a song of ice and fire. Please refer to it as such.
The same thing pisses me off when people call “his dark materials” as the golden compass series. Or when people call the inheritance cycle as the eragon series. No body calls "the wheel of time " the eye of the world series.
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 3, 2012 8:30 PM PST reply actions
NO ONE TALKS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE LATTER THINGS
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I concede that no one read the golden compass series or the series that terrible kid wrote, but mocking Wheel of Time is way too far.
by Hyoton on Jan 3, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I never understood what Mrs. Disaster saw in those.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 7:46 AM PST up reply actions
To be fair, there hasn’t been an “Eye of the World” series or movie that expanded the audience far beyond a preexisting readership.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
yeah I see your point
and I was trying to not come of in a hipsterish before it was cool way
because I love that exposure the tv series has brought to the book series
more the merrier. I love being about to talk about it with strangers now
but its still a pet peeve of mine
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 3, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I’m as persnickety as anyone else. I totally get where you’re coming from.
If they hadn’t been so thoroughly and openly committed to the LOTR trilogy,
I would have lost my head over someone calling them “The Fellowship Of The Ring” books.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Ugh, they are AWFUL!
Though I have to admit they start to get better halfway through the series.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Oh, you mean the New Hope series!
I love that!
/twirls hair, snaps bubblegum
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
YES! This might make me sound weird, but CGI Young Harrison Ford is DELISH.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I only like the old republic
the new republic is too main stream
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 3, 2012 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
It's a really obscure Republic
you’ve probably never heard of it.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
you guys never heard of the millennium falcon
pitchfork gave it 12 parsecs
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 3, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
But the Eragon series is stupid, so I'll call it that if I want
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
yeah I didn't like it
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 3, 2012 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
i kind of agree
and I wish they’d called the HBO show “A Song of Ice and Fire”, since now they’re continuing to call season 2 “Game of Thrones”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
and they aren't going with the hilarious
Game of Thrones: Clash of Kings thing they could have done
GOT: COK
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
by jponry on Jan 3, 2012 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
i lol'd way too hard at this
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 3, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
You are correct.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 3, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
I am aware that it is called A Song of Ice and Fire but I just call it Game of Thrones because that’s what people know it as.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
that's just a misuse of the review process
catch
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Definitely not enough to overturn
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
The VT "catch" in the end zone in OT?
I disagree. His upper body appeared to land out of bounds before his feet landed in bounds, and on top of that, the ball seemed to hit the ground.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Upon further review,
I am wrong on the first point but correct upon the second. Ball definitely hits the ground when he does.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
BMcCarthy32 Brandon McCarthy
If my 2012 ‘to do’ list includes not bathing, fouling up a bathroom and watching Parks and Rec reruns- then I’m off to a great start.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Can we have him please please please
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
The way Beane is cleaning house, I wouldn’t rule it out.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Isn’t he cost controlled?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
So were a bunch of the other guys Beane traded away
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
Man, VT special teamers must have very long penises
Because they were f**king themselves all night long
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
reminds me of a conversation i once had in portland
met a man who said he never need a girlfriend
because his penis could reach his butt when he bent it
dood was surprisingly well adjusted
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 3, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Does saying Rick Santorum creeps me out
violate the no sex in the champagne room rule?
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Cat's out of the bag.
Look upthread.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
So you're saying
you wouldn’t have sex with Rick Santorum in a champagne room?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
For Santorum to do that
I’d have to be a woman, we’d have to be married, and we couldn’t use birth control..
So probably not
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
So Santorum isn’t a Log Cabin Republican.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
No way.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Not openly.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 7:47 AM PST up reply actions
Of course, Larry Craig's voting record would have had you believe that, too.
Look closest at those who shout loudest.
(Or, in Craig’s case, sing the loudest:)
In 1995, Craig formed a barbershop quartet called The Singing Senators with Senators Trent Lott, John Ashcroft, and James Jeffords.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
LOL I remember this. I think one of the first things Ashcroft did as Attorney General was sing for reporters.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
is this the whole politics thing?
I like to think of it like racing horses :D you bet everything on something you feel it’s a sure thing, but pretty soon you owe money and you’re waking up in a bathtub filled with ice.
kidney free?
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by CalBear949 on Jan 3, 2012 9:26 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Cap M's presidential slogan
A kidney in every person!
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by CalBear949 on Jan 3, 2012 9:49 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Among my favorite Simpsons quotes
Announcer: Ladies and Gentlemen, 73-year-old candidate, Bob Dole.
Kang: Abortions for all.
[crowd boos]
Very well, no abortions for anyone.
[crowd boos]
Hmm… Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.
[crowd cheers and waves miniature flags]
This is a huge thing in India.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
Yikes.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 3, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, Ryan Clark.
That’s a hell of a reason to miss a football game.
Clark has sickle cell trait, a condition that can be problematic in the high altitude of Denver. In a 2007 game there, Clark became violently ill and lost his spleen and gallbladder in addition to losing 30 pounds because of deprivation of oxygen to his major organs.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 9:48 PM PST reply actions
sounds funny to say that he “lost” them. Like they jumped out his belly button and hid under the gatorade table or something.
Serious, serious problem. I remember them saying on Sunday [whoever was calling the Steeler game] that he wouldn’t even be able to go to Denver.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Where, oh where, has my gall bladder gone,
Where, oh where, is my spleen?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 3, 2012 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
This is what idiots were lamenting started late on Twitter
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Former Warriors loser Troy Murphy.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Troy Murphy gave me a 12% tip
On like a $50 ticket at Chilis. Contrast to Jameson gave me 33%. That was almost 10 years ago, but the impression was made.
Blerg
OT Sean Astin
was in “Courage Under Fire” some how I don’t remember that.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
This is comical on CNN right now
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
This is some fucking M. Night Shyamalan shit right here
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
THEY HAD TO WAKE EDITH UP IN CLINTON COUNTY
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
thecaucus NYTimes The Caucus
Iowa G.O.P. chairman says Romney has won with 30,015 votes to Santorum’s 30,007. #iacaucus
8 votes…holy shit.
Robert Mackey @RobertMackey 2m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Iowa GOP: Romney got 30,015 votes – defeating Santorum by 8 votes. That means Romney got 6 votes less in these Iowa caucuses than in 2008.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
It’s just a referendum, right? People will chalk it up to a tie and they’ll bound off to NH and SC instead of wasting taxpayer money with a recount… right?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Nate Silver's got you covered
fivethirtyeight Nate Silver
Am I allowed to request a recount in Iowa if I have a seafood dinner riding on the outcome?
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 3, 2012 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
They said earlier no recount
Republicans do proportional delegate division
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Yea the splits were crazy
Paul pulled the under 30, the decided, the independants. and the smallest incomes
Romney pulled, the old, the educated, wealthy bracket
Santorum pulled the middle aged and the social conservative
Paul scares the crap out of me. He would destroy the world as we know it, if he really wins and follows through on what he says he will.
Blerg
I honestly don't
get why young people like Paul?
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by CalBear949 on Jan 4, 2012 7:57 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
because it's a different ideology
than the one they’re used to hearing. So they buy into it because they need something to believe in.
I personally think the whole thing and all of them are stupid, so I can’t comment too much on how I feel about a lot of this shit.
sorry, that hasn’t been on the standardized tests…no need to teach it, or study it.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Right. When you have everything answered for you
You don’t have to question anything, and not questioning anything makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Why are we still playing this game? I’m not all Occupy or anything, but it just strikes me as weird that we still parade around charismatic rich people as we are all modern serfs.
Lots of people in this country don’t really have a firm grasp of history.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Because a small government platform is, in many ways, socially liberal.
It’s not really surprising that young voters would be fine with having the government not tell them what to do, especially in like of everything that’s happened since 9/11.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I disagree about Paul.
I think his cooky domestic policies would be kept in check by congress. I also think he would do a lot of good in the realm of foreign policy. He stands no chance though so it doesn’t really matter.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
PULLING ALL US TROOPS WOULD BE A DISASTER
There is a reason that 70% of what his portfolio is gold and silver mining.
Blerg
I'll just say I disagree.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Laissez-faire economics and isolationism were early 20th century standards. They gave us the great depression and 2 world wars respectively.
Pulling US troops would be chaos, within 10 years.
And anyone who thinks that less govt fails to realize that means more corporation control. You have no vote on the board room sir, you will be surrendering more than you imagine. Drive to work, that will be $8, there are no more "free"ways.
Blerg
CHAMPAGNE ROOM CHAMPAGNE ROOM CHAMPAGNE ROOM
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
UNPACK UNPACK UNPACK
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
His foreign policy (withdrawal from the UN and whatnot) seems to me to be motivated by xenophobia rather than internationalism. I’m not okay with that.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
Withdrawal from the UN is not something I’m for but his position against US wars, occupations, black sites, drones, , etc… are a welcome change from any other candidate running for office (from both parties).
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Viability of candidates as candidates is one thing, but “he would destroy the world” is definitely entering champagne room territory. Let’s not take it any further than that.
I don’t think it matters regardless, as Paul winning the nomination, while still highly unlikely, would probably just win him the right to get crushed in the general election. He’s effectively a libertarian running on Republican platform, and libertarians have a terrible record in election performance.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Paul does have plenty of mainstream GOP stances that are at odds with libertarianism. Abortion and immigration being two huge ones.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Actually, yeah I find that weird as well
Especially the abortion issue. We won’t go into opinions, but I would think a person’s control over their own body would be absolutely a big deal for a Libertarian.
I was kinda shocked about it when I read it, and still how the youth seem to be all about the Ron Paul.
The youth in certain conservative states.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Eh. I knew plenty at SFSU
I’m also more fussed about local politics, since you know, my vote can actually count for something.
Fair point. But in a field of candidates with generic Republican stances, what makes him distinct is where he deviates.
He’ll probably do well in New Hampshire again, and then fade in South Carolina et al.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Do you think Congress would go along with all that Paul wants to do?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Wow, they really like cookie cutter counties, don't they?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Bachmann gone
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by CalBear949 on Jan 4, 2012 8:22 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Edith from Clinton County is back on CNN!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I want someone to put these calls on YouTube. Why are they so funny?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 3, 2012 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
You can tell theyre elderly ladies
Super earnest, super genuine, but really funny.
They went after John King when he made a comment about the numbers being off.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Is there any good way to watch CNN online?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 4, 2012 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Henry Schulman:
He works out four days a week at the institute(Athletes Performance Institute) and does Pilates for an hour three days a week. His weight (225) has not changed, but he has redistributed it and said, “My body is ripped.”
Fans have a right to be skeptical. Huff is 35, and Pilates is not a magic bullet, but head trainer Dave Groeschner said, “I know he is working hard. We are pleased with what he has done to this point.”
…
Huff’s $10 million salary assures he will go into camp as the incumbent first baseman.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
last line makes me sad
Feed the Panda some bamboo
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Jan 4, 2012 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
With a few exceptions THe SF Giants have some of the shittiest fans I have ever seen.
At least if this site is any indication.
I dont hink i have ever seen a group of fans attack their a two time Cy Young starting pitcher like you have. Jponry says he is only the 18th best pitcher in the league. Many say he is too small . Many say he will get injured. WTF is wrong with you people?
NO one else says that not even even Dodger fans.
Seriously why do you say that? The stats DO NOT prove or even suggest that. Why dont you like him?
He has a WAR of 24.7 for four years. what kind of idiots are you? You want Cain instead a losing pitcher with a WAR of 15.9 and Lincecum has won 15 more games and played a year less. And Lincecum doesnt have bones in his arm. Yet you worry about injury?
Logic really doesnt exist for you.
Cain is a great pitcher and I never see people dump on him like you do Lincecum.
Really what is their about him you don’t like? It isnt his pitching.
.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 5:25 AM PST up reply actions
If I could win a Friend, I think I’d go with Rachel. I wouldn’t even have to influence People to gossip about it.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Rachel and... ?
The book apparently trains you to win multiple!
I’d say Joey. Monica’s too neurotic, Ross and Chandler can be dicks sometimes (and they’re too neurotic). Which leaves the innocents, Joey and Phoebe. And you already have a lady in Rachel, so go for gender diversity.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
Lincecum is better than Cain
I don’t want to extend either.
And using a four year sample with Lincecum is disingenuous, considering he’s been about half as good the past two years as he was the two before that.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
No one's dumping on him
We’re having a rational discussion about the fact that he’s had a slight decline in production the last two years and the Giants have to make a huge decision on him coming up in the next few years. That decline makes it a bit sketchier of a proposition as to whether you’d give him a huge contract or not.
Your problem is that you’re not interested in actual discussion and if you hear anyone say anything slightly negative about a player, “they don’t like him.” I love Tim. He’s one of my favorite Giants and I want him to be a Giant forever and ever. But the rational part of me sees that he hasn’t quite been the kind of pitcher that his likely contract would warrant the last two years and I think it makes it an interesting discussion as to whether you would re-sign him or not.
Having a discussion about the pros and cons of something big like giving a pitcher an 8 year 200 million deal (or whatever it turns out to be) is not the same thing as hating Lincecum or attacking him.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
admit it
you are a terrible fan
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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by CalBear949 on Jan 4, 2012 6:36 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
This discussion is what makes McCC different than just about every other fan site on the planet.
OV -You see that as bad.
I see that as what makes McCC the best.
Just about every other fan site devolves into !!!!*!!!! m1NE IZ B3tt3R than UrZ W@YYY!!!!
Hell even sites about kittens devolve into calico vs tabby warz.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
lol
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Logic really doesnt exist for you.
I could picture joe rogan saying this on a game show
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 4, 2012 6:39 AM PST up reply actions
Jumping the Shark
Cain instead a losing pitcher
Everyone loves Tim, but nobody is about to throw too much money at anyone. We already have some contracts that make 130 mil seem small. Everyone here is just being smart about how they feel about what he might get.
I am pretty sure if Tim can do 08 and 09 on repeat, we would all be throwing 25 mil for 20 years at him now. Nobody thinks he can do that.
Blerg
I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for being such a shitty fan, both personally and for the entire Swarm. Now that you have shown me the light, perhaps I can start striving to be less shitty. I’m thinking of starting by going back to using W-L records as a means to evaluate pitchers.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
GO LAKERS!
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
GO LAKERS!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, and fuck you
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 4, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
?
?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Seriously though, Sabes, I know you're reading
If you pull off a trade for Alexei Ramirez, all is forgiven.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
sabes read this
trades belt brown and hembree for ramirez
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 4, 2012 6:39 AM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't do that
But I wouldn’t be that mad if he did it either.
And if it was Belt OR Brown + Hembree, I’d pull the trigger.
I don’t think you realize how awesome Ramirez’s contract is.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I suspect that going forward the difference between Belt and Huff/Pill/etc. will be greater than that between Ramirez and Crawford/Fontenot/Adrianza/etc.
I suspect you're incorrect.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yea no way Belt is 3-6 WAR greater than Huff
And that is being generous to Crawford. Alexi averaging 4.6 fWAR last 2 years, on upward trend.
Blerg
A quick look at ZiPS projections shows Belt with an 18-pt OPS+ advantage over Huff, and Ramirez with a 24-pt advantage over Crawford/Adrianza.
Ramirez may be a better fielder than the Giants’ youngsters, but (a) he may not be, and (b) Belt is clearly a better fielder than Huff, so defense is a wash at best.
We all agree Fontenot’s better than Crawford at this point, so if you use Fontenot instead, the gap narrows to basically nothing.
And that’s for 2012. With Belt, Crawford, and Adrianza on the good side of the aging curve and Ramirez and Huff on the bad, things ought to tip the other way soon enough.
“When it comes to the Republican nomination, Romney may get it in the end but he’ll have Santorum on his back” – attributed to CBS News
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
REJECTED
/slap
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
hmmmmmm
Joe Torre has resigned as Major League Baseball’s executive vice president for baseball operations to join a group trying to buy the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’m just glad he’s out of the Commissioner’s Office. He can do far less damage to the sport as an owner than as Selig’s personal bouncer for progress.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Speaking of which, are we just going to have to wait for Selig to pull a Kenesaw Mountain Landis?
And die before changes can be made?
I’m pretty sure he’s supposed to be departing soon. Hopefully we get someone who actually has an open mind about exploring ways to improve the sport, starting with blackout regulations and internet archives and distribution.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I haven’t read this yet but I’m sure it is amazing.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I started it, then got annoyed with having to keep clicking on stuff. I hope the 9er guy running to the bench after making a play is on there, that was a good one.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
50 gifs, 5 per page…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
There are some good ones in there. I can’t believe he didn’t use the Beltran butt grab gif though.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
LOL RESEARCH!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that's happened to me a few times, too.
You have to really weigh the cost/benefit ratio of proving your point once the comment count hits four digits.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 4, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
That clip
reminded me of Buster Posey. Remember him? He was great.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME????
Great Post Grant. Dudes, there is no way we don’t sign Lincecum to whatever he wants. He is the face of the franchise and he nearly single-handedly brought us a new identity and a World Series title. He is to the Giants what Jeter is to the Yankees so he better stay a Giant for life or I am going to be a Mariner’s fan. Lincecum is that rare player who adds more than stats to a team and a franchise. He is a big game pitcher. He has cool hair.
By the way, I am still pissed I sent him an authentic jersey, home, number 52 to sign for my mom to give her as a gift for her 80th birthday and I never got it back. I wonder if Tim kept it or maybe some clubhouse/Giants front officer took it home to junior. I am out $300!!!! but I still love Timmy!!!!
Each championship is better than the last.
You sent a $300 jersey to someone you don’t know and who wasn’t expecting it?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 4, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Yeahhhhh...
You probably should have sent a 55 jersey to Tim and then you might have got it back
Imagine. Lincecum still hitting 99-101 with the gun. Greatest pitcher of modern time??
by Vaccaro on Jan 4, 2012 12:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
55
I meant to say I sent a number 55. Sorry about that typo. Funny thing. I followed the directions from the Giants front office!@!
Each championship is better than the last.
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