Therioting in the Streets: Giants Sign Ryan Theriot
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 27, 2012 9:39 AM PST
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ryan theriot in agreement with #giants on 1 yr deal. gives them good veteran ss option…...theriot gets $1.25M from #SFGiants plus 750 grand in incentives
It might be raining, baby, but it's a good thing they squirreled that fund away for such an occasion!
As cynical as I want to be, though, here's the part that leads the story for me: Ryan Theriot has a career OBP of .344. He has Lincecum-esque power, he apparently runs the bases like Eugenio Velez, and he's not a highly regarded defensive shortstop. There are a lot of reasons to make an I-think-that-a-raccoon-must-have-been-trapped-under-the-house-and-died-there face.
Ryan Theriot has a career OBP of .344. Sold. Let's try it. Get a big trench coat, put him on Mike Fontenot's shoulders, and let them play there together at the same time. Because a .344 OBP is about a hundred points higher than I'm expecting from Brandon Crawford, and I wish that were hyperbole. This is what we've been reduced to.
True facts: Theriot hit .328/.412/.522 for the Cubs in 159 plate appearances in 2006; Mike Fontenot hit .305/.395/.514 in 284 plate appearances in 2008. Now I'm not sure how this whole "stats" thing works, but I'm pretty sure that you can just add those together to get what we should expect in 2012.
The jokes are a-flyin' on the Twitter machine about Sabean sabeaning a sabeaninstic archetype. Here, veteran: I got you this bouquet and some candy hearts with "Exercise My Heart's Option" printed on it. And that's fair. It's not like he hasn't earned the reputation of a veteranophile. But the jokes seem to miss just how screwed the Giants were at shortstop. Which is to say, very. There is an excellent chance that Theriot is an upgrade to the roster. That speaks to a lot of things that don't reflect well on the Giants, but it's true.
Crawford is still the ostensible starter -- and you just know this will be the one time that Bochy sticks with the youngster, just because -- but this gives the Giants another backup plan that isn't calling up Ehire Adrianza, or some such nonsense.
Ryan Theriot has a career OBP of .344. He gives a lot of that value back with his defense, and by running the bases like a nincompoop, but Ryan Theriot has a career OBP of .344. That would have been second on the 2011 Giants. ZiPS projects him to have a .324 OBP next season. That would have been fourth on the 2011 Giants, right behind the guy who's starting in right field. So I'll take it.
It's a half-eaten sandwich that you wrestled away from a seagull, and you have to spend more time than you want brushing the sand off the top, but it's still nourishment. Also, what kind of sandwich do you think Ryan Theriot would be? I'm thinking tuna salad with too much mayo.
Ryan Theriot: San Francisco Giant. Just when you think the universe isn't on rails, heading towards only one possible destination, something like this happens. But it's not a bad thing. Yet.
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isn't .340 the rule-of-thumb average OBP?
.004 above average OBP! GET STOKED.
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Why did the headline not say Thestreets?
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and by running the bases like a nincompoop,
TOOTBLAN
If he replaces Burriss on the roster, I am fine with this move. If he replaces Crawford on the roster, then it’s going to be another great year for grounders to the left side.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Can't wait to see Bochy trot out:
CF Angel Pagan
2B Manny Burriss
RF Melky Cabrera
3B Pablo Sandoval
C Buster Posey
LF Aubrey Huff
SS Ryan Theriot
1B Brett Pill
P Barry Zito
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by kiririn on Jan 27, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
…if half the starters get injured, yes.
by Monkeyking42 on Jan 27, 2012 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
so you're saying...
The Giants are a strong pitching time with little offensive Whiteside?
by Ian A on Jan 27, 2012 10:10 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Trollin'.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
the sad thing is
I’m so starved for baseball, that I looked at that lineup and thought “Pablo! Buster!” and was happy.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jan 27, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
All pro-Defense lineup:
CF: Melky
2B: ManBur
3B: Pablo
LF: Huff
RF: Belt
1B: Pill
C: Whiteside
SS: Theriot
District firewalls/filters prohibit me from looking up "tootblan"
Mind filling me in?
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Ah. thanks.
/belated, obligatory “heh” while getting Grant’s joke
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Oh, good. I needed a fresh pairing for spring training slash.
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by TheLetter2 on Jan 27, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
dumb and dumber
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by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Theriot
Is there a way to Human Centipede Crawford’s defense onto Theriot’s OBP? Or maybe the other way around? I think I’d like that player.
Another opportunity missed
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It would be worth it just so hear him speak with a drawl.
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by KrazyKrabMeat on Jan 27, 2012 5:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
OSTENSIBLY
he will be the starting 2B since it is likely Freddy Sanchez will spend some time on the DL. I think it’s a great signing even if this is not the case. Great, because, as you say, Grant, it’s an improvement over the current roster filler (certainly over Burriss).
Also, let’s just get this all out of the way:
Theriot helps the RDF because they can now sell RIOT GEAR alongside PANDA HATS and MELK CARTONS.
And I think we now have enough names to revise the quote:
Sabean: In a word: No. If we had signed Beltran or [Jose] Reyes, we would have been without [Jeremy] Affeldt, [Javier] Lopez, [Guillermo] Mota, [Clay] Hensley, [Ryan] Vogelsong, [Angel] Pagan, [Melky] Cabrera, [Mike] Fontenot, [Eli] Whiteside, [Emmanuel] Burriss and [Ryan] Theriot–obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 9:48 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
Oh Sabes.
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so very true
someone hold me
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by Giant Voodoo on Jan 27, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Honesly, it's not that bad a statement when you lump that many together.
Beltran: 5 wins.
Affeldt: 0.5 wins
Lopez: 0.5 wins
Mota: 0.2 wins
Hensley: 0 wins
Vogelsong: 2 wins
Pagan > Torres: 1 win
Cabrera + Zito > J. Sanchez: push
Fontenot: 1 win
Whiteside: 0 wins
Burriss: -0.5 wins
Theriot: 1 win
Total: 5.7 wins
Beltran is getting paid $13 million next year. Those players are getting paid a combined $26.4 million!
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–obviously not being able to field a competitive team, especially from an experience standpoint, given our level of spending.
Wait wait wait. I thought you said OSTENSIBLY. Was it Sabez that said Obviously, or was that your addition to the revized quote?
Surely there must be an outrage, and someone is probably able to be held accountable for it.
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We got Ryan Theriot.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 27, 2012 9:48 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
This makes me sad.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 27, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Totally.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 27, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Theriot excels at not being Manny Burriss
The worst part is, that actually makes me happy. This is what we are reduced to, being happy about Theriot platooning with Crawford until Sanchez’ shoulder spontaneously combusts and then platoon him and the hobbit at 2nd? Thanks Sabean. You make things so easy some times.
Why is Orlando Cabrera? Fuck!
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& not being the Zombie Corpse of Miguel Tejada !!!
Mr I make outs more than 80% of the time I step to the plate, if there is runner on 1st I GIP every tenth time, yet I am too good to bunt. BAH!
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by daveinexile on Jan 28, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
Plus, dude steals bases
I think
"I give up that lead-off double, well, who cares? I'm about to get nasty." - Brian Wilson
as long as it is two or more it's "bases"
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by MrUnderhill on Jan 27, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Crawford > Theriot and it’s not particularly close for me. Glad to have him on the roster as an extra right-handed infielder, though.
by Evan on Jan 27, 2012 9:50 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
This camp.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I was debating this on Twitter with oldjacket. Is your reasoning mostly defense based? Bill James has Theriot at a .315 wOBA next year, Crawford is at .294.
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Good points.
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Entirely defense-based. I’d have to think the defensive difference between them is 15 runs per season, maybe more.
Theriot's career UZR/150 at SS is -1.7
So either you think UZR is wrong about Theriot or you think Crawford is a +13 defender?
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He’s been down-trending defensively, no? His FSR from 2011 was kind of humorous — he rated at “7” on instincts.
Ask me about my blog.
Plummeting.
DRS, 2007-2011: 6, 5, 3, -5, -12
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That's... interesting
But since all such stats work best in three year samples, I’m hesitant to ascribe too much meaning. But still, that’s a clear trend. Usually a trend like that has some sort of obvious reasoning.
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And even if you use 3 years, the last 3 years is an average of -4.67.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll excerpt my excerpt from last thread:
Excerpts from the Fan Scouting Report ranking of 54 major-league shortstops in 2011:
…
49. Edgar Renteria
50. Miguel Tejada
51. Orlando Cabrera
53. Yuniesky Betancourt
54. Ryan Theriot
Oh, my numbering’s off. There are actually two guys in there: Nishioka and Angel Sanchez.
But Theriot is last by a mile. The gap between Tejada and Theriot is greater than the gap between the #1 guy (Tulo) and #18 (Furcal).
Maybe Cards fans were just in a bad mood. I’m still bracing for extreme clankery.
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by kiririn on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 8 recs
is this real life?
1:21 is my favorite…although rolling the ball while on all fours like a labrador does show how gritty he can be.
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by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Alot of those where on the first baseman or the catcher.
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by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
A. Most of those plays you are talking about are at the start of the video. There is plenty of flat out poor fielding later.
B. Which do you think is more likely: Theriot is making bad throws, or Yadier/Albert are at fault?
Yeah, I’d say most of them are bad throws. Could they be caught? Sure. But he could have made them a lot easier to catch with a good throw.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Yadier and Albert are known as good fielders.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
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SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
You put him at 2B, though, and those throws to first won’t have time to sail. Problem solved.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
If he can even get the transfer smooth enough to make a throw.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Holy shit
Carter Jurica!
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Raul Ibanez is the Egg McMuffin of Raul Ibanezes.
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:O
well fuck…..
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by SirPsycoSexy on Jan 27, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
So he scores a "12" to Crawford's "75"
Man, if the Craw can find even a .260 batting average we are going to be in great shape. Here’s to blind faith.
Just look at Crawford’s September line and pray that’s his real talent level.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
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by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
But now he’ll hit well against the Giants in a few key games so in 2 or 3 years when he has nothing left we’ll sign him because Sabean remembers how hit against us.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
True facts: Theriot hit .328/.412/.522 for the Cubs in 159 plate appearances in 2006; Mike Fontenot hit .305/.395/.514 in 284 plate appearances in 2008. Now I’m not sure how this whole “stats” thing works, but I’m pretty sure that you can just add those together to get what we should expect in 2012.
This was my thought, too. It’ll be like the next Haller and Bailey, or Cepeda and McCovey. Two great bats, but only one position for them. We just need to teach one of them to play left field on occasion so we can have both their bats in the lineup at the same time.
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It was inevitable, was it not?
I mean, acquiring Mike Fontenot was merely the first step in Sabean’s master plan. And now, the other light-hitting, weak-fielding shoe has dropped.
I can’t wait to check out DrB and OGC to see how they support this move.
Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this son of Cabrera.
I'd certainly love Theriot's 2008
His 09 would be great too.
His 10 I want to part of.
His 11 is fine as part of a platoon.
I don’t think that I’d start Theriot over Crawford immediately. But I would platoon them, and if it became clear that one of them or the other was clearly outperforming, I wouldn’t hesitate to go with one or the other.
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Pretty much this
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I'm def for the platoon.
But, how much do you think Theriot needs to start vs. RHP so that he can “mash” vs. LHP?
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Wait, weren't you arguing for Theriot in the great Crawford/Theriot debate of 2012?
(yesterday’s thread)
2012 is going to be awesome!
I think I missed that
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But Brendan Ryan!
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
It was the new guy who was arguing for Theriot or Brendan Ryan.
I don’t think he really had anybody backing him up.
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Overnight tennis’ll do that to you.
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In a vacuum, or you would trade prospects to get him while Crawford is on the roster.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
The former. Having them both would be silly, and Crawford’s still young enough that I’d rather have him for the long term.
Okay, that I can respect.
This guy was saying we should have traded for Brendan Ryan
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one is a veteran
will not happen.
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by Giant Voodoo on Jan 27, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Not the best mitt, but better than Keppinger. He mashes lefties. He’s cheap. I like it personally. Manny Burriss can’t hit. End of story on that one. Plus I like the Hobbit, I want him to be happy with his buddy. Oh, and he mashes lefties. And he can fake it at short. Like the Hobbit. They complete each other. Great platoon… if used properly.
He does not mash lefties.
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?
IIRC, he has a high-700’s OPS vs lefties in his career, and a good OBP.
But that ain’t mashing.
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jeff keppinger also "mashes" lefties
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by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Jeff Keppinger is an expert at the Mashed Potato
He can also do The Twist
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa, tell me Ryan
(tell me Ryan)
Do you like it like this?
(Do you like it like this?)
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Now...waaait a minute....
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.300 hitter!
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by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
I was at a bar on Tuesday, and the bartender said we should have kept Keppinger because he was a .300 hitter and was good with the glove.
So, no tip?
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So, you paid him in Chuck-E-Cheese tokens?
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He was talking about Billingham Keppinger, a guy on his softball team.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
“Jeff Keppinger is a .300 hitter and good with the glove. Here’s your drink. It has high alcohol content and lots of sugar.”
“This is a beer.”
“Whatever you say, drunky.”
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
301/373/775 for OPS+ of 122… 17 career Home runs, 6 against lefties. I should most likely not use the term “mash” but we are talking about a backup/platoon infielder here, so cut me some slack. He has a nice platoon split. Happy?
I'm always happier when people are more accurate!
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we are talking about a backup/platoon infielder here
You do remember who writes out the lineup card right?
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He’d actually make sense there though. He gets on base occasionally.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
And then gets caught stealing.
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the giants dont steal so thats not a problem...
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by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Opening Day (Freddy likely to be injured:)
CF Pagan
2B Theriot
3B Sandoval
1B Huff
C Posey
LF Cabrera
RF Schierholtz
SS Crawford
P Lincecum
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
like potatoes
maybe some garlic..mmmm this theriot signing smells good.
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by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
I still don’t trust Wilson because he’s from New Hampshire.
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by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not saying it isn’t. But I have my guard up because it’s…Up There.
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It’s a half-eaten sandwich that you wrestled away from a seagull, and you have to spend more time than you want brushing the sand off the top, but it’s still nourishment. Also, what kind of sandwich do you think Ryan Theriot would be? I’m thinking tuna salad with too much mayo.
Shit’s harder to do in SF than you think dawg
Therrible.
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 27, 2012 9:54 AM PST reply actions
Scrabble-valid anagram of "Theriot"
THORITE
Anagram of "SF Giants season" = GAS OF NASTINESS
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jan 27, 2012 9:55 AM PST reply actions
Cockney PA Announcer Day, June 3.
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Cobblers to 'em.
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by EliminateMe on Jan 27, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Gator hats, man
This shit just sells itself!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 9:55 AM PST reply actions
Instead of Burriss? Sure.
Don’t see a huge problem with this – we didn’t give him 5M like to Affeldt, and he’s better than Burriss it seems – am I wrong? Our 25 man roster: (I think)
Cabrera, Pagan, Schierholtz, Huff, Pill, Belt, Sanchez, Theriot, Fontenot, Sandoval, Crawford, Posey, Whiteside/Stewart, Lincecum, Cain, Zito, Vogelsong, MadBum, Wilson, Romo, Lopez, Affeldt, Casilla, Mota, and Hensley.
A bit pile of MEH imo, but we’ll see what happens. Go Giants?
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I like the Theriot singing if it means Burris is DFA’d the last week of camp assuming Freddy can throw a ball to first.
Go Giants
Agreed.
But I’d also like to have a singing contest in spring training to weed out the guys who not only have clank mitts, but also can’t carry a tune in a bucket. Tim Flannery, major league singing coach.
by mrs. owlcroft on Jan 27, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Is he going to be one of the people Sabean talks about when he is trying to explain why we couldn’t re sign Cain?
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by kb2011sfg on Jan 27, 2012 9:57 AM PST reply actions 11 recs
Therioting continues unabated
Don't you dare call me irrational, you KNOW that makes me crazy!
by shanghaijim on Jan 27, 2012 9:58 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
/rubs eyes in comical exaggerated fashion
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OPENING DAY ROSTER
Starting Pitchers (5):
Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Madison Bumgarner, Ryan Vogelsong, Barry Zito
Relief Pitchers (7):
Jeremy Affeldt, Javier Lopez, Brian Wilson, Sergio Romo, Santiago Casilla, Guillermo Mota, +1 (Hensley or Edelfsen)
Infielders (4):
Aubrey Huff, Freddy Sanchez, Brandon Crawford, Pablo Sandoval
Outfielders (3):
Melky Cabrera, Angel Pagan, Nate Schierholtz
Catchers (2):
Buster Posey, Chris Stewart
Bench (4):
Brandon Belt, Mike Fontenot, Ryan Theriot, Brett Pill
Bleh.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
You forgot all the permutations of various first baseman who’ll play there because why not?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Needs a backup CF
Belt’s in Fresno for Christian or Blanco. Not even trolling.
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 27, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Sadly
Melky is the backup CF.
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THIS
And if someone gets hurt then they bring up Blanco or Christian
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i think they go with an 8 man bullpen
belt to fresno
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by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Who the heck is
Jponry?
Is she replacing Jponry?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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Who the heck is
Jponry?
Is she replacing Jponry?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
If she is, she’s doing a good job. I can’t tell the difference between the two.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I like onjpry (pronounced “awn-zhe-pry”) myself.
by non sequitur on Jan 27, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
pod people body snatcher style!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
AHHH
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Bochy might have a problem with Blanco. The roster will suddenly have a lot of lefties. Still, I think this is accurate. All the more reason for the Giants to trade Belt. after a hot couple of months in AAA (provided they don’t talk shit about him in ST).
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting
from Baggs
My guess is that Mota will be on a minor league contract, officially. There are only two vacancies on the 40-man, and Hensley and Theriot must get those
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So did Slopey, but everyone hated him.
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LOL ST results matter still
Andrew Baggarly
@extrabaggs: It’s $1.25 million for Theriot if he makes the club. Bochy has a veteran SS alternative if Brandon Crawford struggles this spring.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Wait
another non-guaranteed contract?
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Apparently so
JaymeeSireCSN Jaymee Sire
Ryan Theriot and the #sfgiants have agreed to terms on a 1-year non-guaranteed Major League deal, pending a physical.
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Unfortunately
SSS… so this isn’t guaranteed
Of course, I want Brandon Crawford to succeed. But the worst possible outcome would be for him to be successful in ST games that don’t matter, then Bochy sticks with him for far too long during the regular season while he’s regressing to the mean.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jan 27, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
If Crawford’s hitting regressed to the mean, I’d be very happy.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
If Bochy has a veteran alternative
does it matter if Crawford struggles or not?
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
See you later Brandon we hardly knew ya
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
I am more hopeful that Burriss
will hit in ST exactly how we hope he will.
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I am confused on how to read this.
We hope like hell he hits like crap and gets cut? Or, do we hope like hell he hits well and as Sabes sugests is some new player?
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Choose your own adventure ©
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ruh-roh, here come the lawyers…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
apparently
I’m doing it wrong.
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Better than guaranteed money.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
So the euphoria over the Clay Hensley signing was pretty short-lived.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
The euphoria over the Clay Hensley signing
was that it was a non-guaranteed contract.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
As is the contract for Theriot
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The next signing will be Bobby Bouchet
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:10 AM PST reply actions
Never realized they made King jerseys.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
THERIOT!!!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
by DFARowand on Jan 27, 2012 10:13 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
/clicks subject line
Sooooooo tired of that shot appearing every time I go to a new page on SBN or Deadspin.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 27, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Theriot ZIPS projection: .656 OPS
Last year’s shortstops: .564 OPS
Welcome, Ryan Theriot.
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 27, 2012 10:16 AM PST reply actions
I think Tejada’s ZIPs projections were pretty good.
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what about that third hand?
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Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Jan 27, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
linked on that site…my favorite commercial…that could never be aired in the US.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
when did fontenot start acting?
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
My official take: meh
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:16 AM PST reply actions
What if it turns out Theriot and Fontenot hate eachother?
And fate keeps bringing them together?
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Caged death match
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
I'd pay to watch.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Hobbit on Hobbit violence is not good.
Wait, is Theriot a Hobbit?
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He looks like a normal sized human being actually.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
BR says
5’ 11 and 180 lb.
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200?!
Is that why he wears such baggy clothes?
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
The Prince
Prince Fielder singed a ball for my kid in Rookie low A short season ball, Missoula MT. He was listed as 6’ 240. I weighed 250 and am 5’10" and I felt taller than him and thinner if that is possible. He did have hands like a 1st basemans glove. Don’t believe all that you read in the programs.
Go Giants
Together he’s Giant.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
by bgunn on Jan 27, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That means 5’8".
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Exactly
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It’s definitely in the “not going to be a successful person unless you work thirty times harder than a 5-10 guy” zone.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
:( :(
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
:)
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Well, I guess I should be happy. Before I just thought I was lazy; now I have a reason.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
What about 5' 9" guys ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
MAX TALL...but wait ! That's not all....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lREErGZTW3U
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Put 5’10’’ on your drivers license.
by S. Pickford #25 on Jan 27, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So I’d be listed as 5’11" in the 2012 MCC Media Guide.
Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012
5’11", 190 lbs, all muscle
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Best (announcing) shape of his life
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Reports say that TL2 has been doing a combination of long distance running and quick sprints to help his lung capacity during those frantic on air moments. But inside sources say it’s his singing lessons that will be the real difference maker this year.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Hollingsworth also spent some of his offseason shouting across a canyon to Barry Zito.
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“You suck Zito!”
/gets hit with baseball
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Zito and "gets hit with baseball" are an unlikely combination.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
You’ve never seen Zeets angry. He’ll crank that baby up to 84.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
LOL SPRING TRAINING AND PRINCE FIELDER
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I guess I’ll be 6’8"
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
I envision it as a Jennifer Aniston vehicle to be released sometime next year.
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posted this before, but...
yes, they hate each other. Or at least, Frodonot despises Theriot. It all goes back to Theriot’s diva attitude back in their Cubs days.
(heh.)
by non sequitur on Jan 27, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
this is funny
i laughed
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Jan 27, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
footnote had the best line
sugar sweet
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Jan 27, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
lol this was pretty good
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
What if it turns out Theriot and Fontenot hate each other? And fate keeps bringing them together?
Shhhh…this is the plot line for TL2’s 2012 slash fic.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Frodo and Sam
Fontenot is the Godfather for Theriot’s youngest child. Theriot was a groomsman at Fontenots wedding; his wife was a bridesmaid, his son was the ring-bearer, his older daughter was a flower girl. Their wives are close friends, in fact Theriots wife introduced Mike to Ashley. . They knew each other since their teens, but became friends when they were both on the Iowa Cubs.
Theriot's wedding gift to Fontenot:
A waterproof mattress cover.
"It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker
JeffFletcher1 Jeff Fletcher
Ryan Theriot has started 403 games at SS over the past 4 years. He’s also got a .670 OPS over those years. #sfgiants
simply .......
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
November 1, 2010: Best/craziest/drunkest night of my life.
by GIANT stoner on Jan 27, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Huh...
…is it just me, or does it just seem like he’s played for the Giants before? I had to check his BRef page to convince myself he hasn’t.
San Francisco Giants ***GLORY ACHIEVED 11/01/10***
There are quite a few players in the league you just look at and say, “They’ll be a Giant one day as long as Sabean is the GM”. Theriot was one of those guys.
So we’re still going to get Yuni :(
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Back in KC.
Dayton Moore wishes he knew how to quit Yuni.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I want to believe that the Giants will not use Theriot as a shortstop.
After all, they moved Tejada to third when it became clear the SS was not an option for him, and even TLR got fed up with Theriot’s butchery last season.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
They only moved Tejada to 3b
Because Pablo got hurt
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Not really
they moved Tejada to 3B because he couldn’t move anymore.
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If they moved Tejada to 3B when Pablo is healthy
I would have killed some fools. it was because Pablo was injured.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Appearances at SS after June 14.
15 times in 31 games. Three of those appearances were after PHing.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
So roughly half
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
/throws spaghetti on the wall
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
/eats resdog's spaghetti
only if it sticks of course
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Jan 27, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Have we all stopped clamoring for Fontenot as the starting SS?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
San Francisco Mud Dogs
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
I am ready for my first 10 pound sack of crawfish of the season, coming soon
by Countificus on Jan 27, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
MUD BUG DAY AT THE YARD !!
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
We have a friend who does Oyster Night in Lot A each season. A couple of bushels from Hog Island in the Ferry Building = Best tailgate ever.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
/clicks subject line
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I go to NOLA once a month with my girl, and we usually eat 3 or 4 dozen oysters on the half shell.
by Countificus on Jan 27, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
same gig, sit at the bar and have them shuck them for you. usually a small wait like ACME
by Countificus on Jan 27, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Ron Guidry would really round out the coaching staff.
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 27, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Hmm.. Font hits right-handed now?
Henry Schulman
@hankschulman: Essentially, Fontenot and Theriot, old friends from LSU/Cubs, competing against each other for right-handed ABs at short. I’m also told…
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Except
Fontenot is a lefty.
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Oops missed the subject line.
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Fontenot vs lefties?
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Whoops…I meant competing for ABs against LH pitchers..Obviously Fontenot bats LH
1 minute ago
I am not quoting you any more Hank
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Fontenot had a higher OPS last year vs. lefties (.783 in 58 PAs) than righties (.653, 194 PAs).
16 seconds ago
Except in his career
Fontenot is much better against RHPs. .750 v. .664 OPS
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BUT WHAT ARE YOU ALSO TOLD HANK?!
"If you wanna rock 'n' roll, I got the guitar."
by deuce deuce on Jan 27, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
He corrected himself.
He meant PAs against lefties, which still doesn’t make much sense.
He’s competing against Brett Pill’s true talent level and Freddy Sanchez’s knees.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
He likes the odds!
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jan 27, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
N-O-T
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
, F-O-N-T-E-
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I’d like to buy a vowel.
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G E A U _ _ I G E R S
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I very much agree
Theriot is just one of those guys who seemed destined for the Giants under Sabean.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jan 27, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Isn’t “the Giants under Sabean” redundant at this point?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
If we abandon hope for a smarter tomorrow, then what are we left with?
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Jan 27, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
LOL GIANTS LOL GIANTS LOL GIANTS
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Despite Colleti's best efforts
I think we might have just enough utility infielders to win this division.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
but Bums are still a Rivera and an Uribe ahead.
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How much of this signing
reflects the Giants’ lack of faith that Freddy can rebound?
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 AM PST reply actions
75% of that is a guess
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Faith isn't always a good thing.
Having one MI behind Crawford and Sanchez that is not Manny Burriss is pretty much unacceptable.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I think he will rebound fine
It is hitting the outside jumper that could be a problem.
Seriously, I think Sanchez will be ready for the start of the season. As always, keeping him in the lineup after that will be a problem.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Ah forgot. It was Fontenot who can’t rebound.
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 27, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Urbs already reported that Bochy said he's "taking it slow"
which I took to mean he won’t play til May.
2012 is going to be awesome!
O/U on Freddy Sanchez games played
82.5
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Over.
I’d start betting the under at around 100
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
This camp.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
17% of the move was based on how effectively Krukow could talk him up.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
CAJUN CONNECTION is back!
Proud father of Mark Gardner(29 years my senior): mastermind of our airtight relief corps, local boy, and owner of an unofficial no-no against the Dodgers.
by srpwrd on Jan 27, 2012 10:46 AM PST via Android app reply actions
None. Buy fun games.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Those are fun games!
Plus I already killed the first two Uncharted’s and I am working on the third.
I’m basically killing time until The Show comes out.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
God of War 3
You will not regret it.
Plus you can download ff7, like I did. That’s good for a ton of time.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Buy the ’11 show until the ’12 show comes out.
by S. Pickford #25 on Jan 27, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Do they still make Gran Tourismo games?
Those were always cool.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Up to 5 now, I believe.
Though some would argue that Forza is better at this point.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah. I’ve heard middling reviews on the newest one.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
"Sprint to GameStop to buy Skyrim" Rally 2K12
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Is it bad that my 6 year old daughter draws pictures of me slaying dragons a la Skyrim? My favorite is when she added in a random dead guy to distract the dragon so I could attack its flank. Atta girl.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
by can of corn on Jan 27, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Not. Bad. At. All.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Just started it last night
Only got through the very intro part, saved right before going into the first town (but after clearing out a random dungeon). Very excited.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
Was going to do mage, but ended up going orc warrior
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
I’m just biding my time until 3-6
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
So, Melky Cabrera, Angel Pagan, Clay Hensley, and Ryan Theriot.
Oh yeah, I was way wrong to be pessimistic about this offseason.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Wow, the 2013 class of free agent first basemen is pretty pathetic.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Good thing we have Brandon Belt.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah
I looked it up because the Nationals will be in the market, but, shit, there’s nothing. Berkman is the best of the bunch by pretty far, and that’s not good.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Do you mean before or after the 2013 season?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
After the 2012 season.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Didn’t they just sign Morse to a 2-year deal?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah, but they can toss him in the outfield if they want.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
True.
I thought you meant in a “must-sign” capacity, a la the Giants before 2010.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
BELT 4 ESPINOSA
(More likely a mid-season BELT 4 LIDGE)
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
How about the farm system? I recognized Chris Marrero’s name, but his stats aren’t that amazing. Tyler Moore and David Freitas are kinda old but haven’t repeated any levels and seem to offer some power potential (Moore) or OBP (Freitas). Can’t say Moore looks that great (kinda like a poor man’s Chris Davis, seems like), but if Freitas could keep that walk rate at higher levels he could be useful. Not by 2013, though, if I had to guess.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Actually, next year's position player class in general is pretty bad.
Cain and Hamels will probably be the only 100+ mil FAs, unless BJ Upton has a crazy season or something.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Most FA classes are pretty bad once you get past the wafer-thin layer of premium talent.
There are some at least acceptable options on the market, something this class lacked beyond Albert, Prince, and Jose.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Based on whom the Giants acquired, I’d say that in retrospect there were plenty of acceptable options.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Huh?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
The free agents the Giants signed were Clay Hensley and Ryan Theriot. There may be a lot of dreck out there on the FA, particularly after the top shelf, but there’s a lot of dreck that’s better than those two guys.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Ehhhhh
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/03/2012-mlb-free-agents.html
Looking at that list, the only person I’d sooner see them sign to play MI is Renteria.
I imagine they could have done better getting a RHP – namely Aardsma – but given the price point on both signings I don’t know if they have enough left over to get him or, say, Qualls.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
That’s up-to-date, i.e. it doesn’t show any players who have already been signed. I’m saying that given that we know who they would ultimately sign, I’d have preferred that they had signed “less than preferable” alternatives earlier in the offseason.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I don’t know who they could have gotten at the price point. They’re bargain bin-scrounging at this point.
I would have been okay with not signing Hensley and letting Edelfsen be the last guy out of the pen, with the Hensley money going to a better MI option.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Given that there is definitely a non-zero chance that Theriot gets playing time at SS, I would’ve probably been happy with Alex Gonzalez at SS. Even in his down years with the bat, he’s about what I would expect from Crawford. And in his good years, he’s pretty decent.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
You know they reportedly extended an offer to Gonzalez, right?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
No, somehow I’d missed that. Was the speculation that we lowballed him or something? Or were just not willing to go to 2 years?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
He went to Milwaukee because (paraphrasing here) he knew he would be a starter there.
I believe he is making 1/6, and the Giants might have made a competitive offer, though I would guess they offered him more like 1/4, which is frankly about as much as I’d want them to spend on a player like Gonzalez.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
1/4.25, with a vesting option for 2013 (4 MM) if he gets to 525 PAs in 2012
Seems pretty reasonable to me. And presumably if they’d signed him, that would’ve made him the starter.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Yeah. Maybe that’s where 1/4 got into my head; it’s been a while.
In any case, Gonzalez was my “predictable offer” of the offseason, though I thought the Giants would actually get him.
It would have been worth it to let Crawford play every day in Fresno, plus as you said the guy has some upside still, though that window is closing.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I totally would’ve paid an extra $3 MM to upgrade from Theriot to Gonzalez. And if he sucks, there’s no way that his 2013 option vests.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Yeah. Fontenot would probably take at least that many PAs from a, what, 37 year-old shortstop?
The vesting option is what worries me about the contract, but the Giants might have offered a higher AAV with no option. Who knows.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
unlessBJ UptonMelky/Pagan have a crazy bad seasons or something
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Upton’s an interesting case. He has an air of bust about him, but he’s still just 27, and he’s a steady 4-win player.
You could make a case that he’d be a better signing than Prince Fielder if he were on the market this year.
Also on the market (for now)
Montero, Napoli, Brandon Phillips, Bourn, Sizemore, Rectumface.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Brandon Phillips......
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Last 5 seasons by fWAR:
5.1, 3.3, 3.3, 4.4, 6.0.
Reaching the decline phase, but the dude can still play.
He’s worth a 2-3 year contract to bridge to Panik.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
He’s going to get, like, 6 years though.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah.
That will end poorly for some team.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
mmhmm. I’d put money on him staying in Cincy though.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
This.
His Twitter is all about wanting to stay in Cincy.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Can they keep him and Votto?
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
He makes it sound like he would do what it takes to stay.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
The two of them are already making a combined $29 million this season. They have Bruce signed through 2016. I think they probably could.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think this is as bad as it seems....you guys are overreacting
oh who am I kidding… cries in a corner we sucks :(
Go Sharks!
I think the reaction here seems to be pretty reserved
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
/burns shit
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that is the reserved reaction.
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Lower Reserved or Upper Reserved ?
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Upper Reserved.
Lower Reserved means paying someone to burn stuff.
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99% Percenter !
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
THEY'RE SMOKIN' WEEEEEED!
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
my reaction at this point is like Grant's
Not Yuni
Oh, and maybe Burriss is gone too – that’s good
Go Sharks!
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
for old times sake
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I have sexual harassment prevention training in 10 minutes
2 hours.
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Get it all out of your system now while you can.
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 27, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Hire ugly people.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Personally, the worst harrassment I’ve felt at my present job is during those presentations.
2012 is going to be awesome!
You should complain mid way through, that you are satisfied and that you came wanting to learn the appropriate way to make sexual advances at work.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Don't talk to any co-workers ever
only correspond via email, copy and pasting company policies in place of personalized questions or requests. Problems avoided.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
what about pictures and videos?
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:01 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
If it’s your junk, make sure it’s tasteful.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
what if I am a professional athlete?
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:04 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Put a little jersey on it.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
by ResDog on Jan 27, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Disclaimer
These are all jokes. I’m fully aware of & have witnessed sexual harrassment in the office. Heard some real horror stories too. CalBear, put your pants back on.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Sage Advice.
That was a short seminar,
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Don't masturbate in your office.
Use the bathroom, like a civilized person.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jan 27, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
What about plain white cotton underwear?
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jan 27, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
prison issued
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
The best way to avoid any sexual harrassment accusations
Is to be all surly and unapproachable.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Sometimes I worry that someone will think it’s harrassment that I have all these pictures of Jon Hamm, Johnny Depp, Daniel Craig and Roger Federer under my blotter.
2012 is going to be awesome!
I've never been sexually harassed at work
It makes me feel like I’m some sot of failure in that I’m not good enough to be harassed
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
SIT IN MY LAP AND TAKE NOTES!
There, I hope that makes you feel better.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Are you sure?
It can be subtle. Someone walked in my office within the past hour & asked to use my phone. “There’s no privacy out there and it’s a personal call” Leaning over exposing cleavage. Me: “Sure”
I felt so used.
/takes shower
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
She then proceeded to have phone sex with her husband right in front of you, right?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
That would have been nice.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
/woman gets offended by your masturbating to her phone sex
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
damn you double standards
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
or with her wife
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
If that is considered sexual harassment, I’ve probably sexually harassed Dingoes.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Ironically, my office manager told me. I’m sorta kidding. I wasn’t offended and so wasn’t really harassment.
Someone made a comment and the harassment element flew under your radar?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
“I want to touch you.”
“The work you do here inspires us all.”
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Not since about 30 pounds or so
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
When I was a junior in HS, I got picked up by a drunk, reasonably attractive, quite horny-seeming middle-aged woman once when I was hitchhiking… she wanted to bring me home with her to drink wine and smoke pot. I saw the ring on her finger and imagined being discovered with her and shot by her jealous husband, so I declined. I have always regretted that decision.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
/still kicking myself
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
My sincerest condolences...
Ryan Theriot is an awful baseball player. It is what it is.
Sign Roy O
by guayzimi on Jan 27, 2012 10:56 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Ever see Ryan Theriot field?
I give you all the highlights of his 755 innings.
Sign Roy O
by guayzimi on Jan 27, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Way ahead of you.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah
We stick to what we know.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Our current starting SS wouldn't start for a lot of organization's AA team
What do you want from us
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Something better than Theriot...
his last three teams – the Cubs, Dodgers, and Cardinals – have all fired him from the position of SS. I don’t mean to pile on. The Cardinals did this last year. He is so so so bad in the field.
Sign Roy O
To be fair
The Dodgers signed him to be second base, but Rafael Furcal is made of toothpicks.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Funny how Furcal took his position last year.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
HEY I REMEMBER YOU!
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I have to admit...
I thought it was a bit rich of you to criticize me for putting forth arguments for Theriot based on nitpicking and small sample size when Crawford’s entire MLB career is comprised of one small sample size. However, if Sabean agrees with me, there is a sense that something is wrong, though Crawford is likely still the starting SS. However, reading the analysis above, I am clearly not the only one around here in whom Bengie Molina created a lust for OBP.The best case scenario is for Crawford to start and hit. There is no convincing evidence, be it any manner of projection system, to say that he’ll have an OBP over .300. And so Theriot’s .344 career line will entice one to furiously rosterbate.
"I've been waiting a looonng time for this!!!"
2010 will live forever
by tellthestorysfgiants on Jan 27, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure you realize what a good OBP looks like.
You were arguing in favor of trading for Brendan Ryan.
Brendan Ryan was the one I was criticizing for nitpicking and small sample size. Ryan Theriot I was criticizing for being a lousy shortstop.
The “something wrong” is Manny Burriss.
Also, there were plenty of logical places in the thread for you to pick up this argument; this was not one of them.
Thanks for playing, though.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I will also point out that that career OBP gets some help from his 2008 season, where he hit .307/.387/.359… with a .339 BABIP. His OBP since that season has gone .343, .321, and .321, with a drop in BABIP every year as he begins 2012 at age 32.
Have fun counting on a .340 OBP.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I did not say .344 was a "good" OBP
Nor did I say that Brendan Ryan would ever put forth anything above a .320. My point was that Brendan Ryan would play adequate shorstop defense and, due to experience and set up, have a greater chance of cracking .300 OBP. It would also give Crawford more time to develop at AAA which would enable him to have a far more successful career in the long run. If you cannot see that there is a huge jump from San Jose (where he spent more of his minor league career) and MLB fine, but don’t put words in my mouth.
"I've been waiting a looonng time for this!!!"
2010 will live forever
by tellthestorysfgiants on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
The two players you are pushing
have combined for 3 total seasons with OBPs above league average, and in all three instances their BABIPs were over .320 and meaningfully above their career average.
Also, if you really meant this:
It would also give Crawford more time to develop at AAA which would enable him to have a far more successful career in the long run.
…Then maybe you should have said it before talking about the myriad reasons why Ryan would post a .320 OBP and we’re supposed to be excited about that.
If you cannot see that there is a huge jump from San Jose (where he spent more of his minor league career) and MLB fine, but don’t put words in my mouth.
I’m well aware of the difference, so you should practice what you preach. The main issue is that you really never really suggested that we should acquire Ryan so Crawford can play in AAA, despite being given ample opportunity to do so. You promoted acquiring Ryan for the sake of having Brendan Ryan, and dickered about how coming back to the NL would magically add 20 point back onto his OBP from the last time he played in the league.
I wouldn’t have to put words in your mouth if you’d just make a reasonable argument, which we’ve finally reached 35 comments in. So, congratulations I guess.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I very clearly suggested that Crawford should be given more time at AAA
Your response was: “I’m fine with giving Crawford more time at AAA, but sign someone who can actually play SS”-referring to Theriot-so that logic, in an augmented state, would be default apply to Ryan, who actually can play SS passably. And no, I never asserted anything regarding magic. I don’t know Merlin personally, though I’ll admit it would be cool if I did. Facing (even if only slightly) weaker pitching could POTENTIALLY (that is a different word from “magically” or “certainly”) add to Ryan’s offensive production, including (and yes, perhaps limited to) OBP. Still would be a worthwhile investment of $1.3m to give Crawford more seasoning and allow them to contend now…especially since $1.25m was just invested in your favourite player and $1.8m was invested in the combo of Theriot and Burriss.
"I've been waiting a looonng time for this!!!"
2010 will live forever
by tellthestorysfgiants on Jan 27, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
Theriot is 32, he hasn't hit that mark since 2009, and he projects to have an obp of around 320...
Crawford needs a platoon partner, but Theriot isn’t that guy.
Sign Roy O
Shift-A: I predict The Riot
Sorry if anybody already made that joke.
And who is this Clay dude that we signed yesterday? I CAN’T TAKE ALL THIS EXCITEMENT! AAHAHAHAAA!!!
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
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by Murray, Present on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 AM PST reply actions
He's Chris Ray with a fake moustache.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Subconsciously, I’ve been expecting Theriot to become a Giant for like three years. This is somehow the most unsurprising move I’ve ever heard.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
This is also true.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I’ve had my jersey pre-ordered months ago
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Also Grant got a shoutout on 30 Rock last night
The Phillie Phanatic needed to prevent his daughter’s wedding to the Squid Lord. That explains a lot of what transpired the last two years.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jan 27, 2012 11:05 AM PST reply actions
The Giants offseason is continuing at a frightening pace.
Take this however you want.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Guys Ryan Theriot is Freddy Sanchez insurance
Stop pencil him in at SS. Mike Fontenot is the backup SS.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
like
state farm insurance or
midday TV advertising insurance?
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:08 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
More like DISCOUT DOUBLE CHECK
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Like a good neighbor
TIGER IS THERE
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
with Kobe
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:12 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
and 7 prostitutes.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I am so very afraid.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Ozzie Guillen @OzzieGuillen
Guess who’s back back again. yes eminen reference OzzieGuillen.com
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I was going to say
Backstreet Boys
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:09 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
And today was the day I got to use the words 'moral turpitude' at work.
I prefer Brandon Crawford to Ryan Theriot.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This life boat.
I think I may have fallen in it.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
They were words that I had seen but never personally applied.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I realize that Crawford’s development path is already hosed, and that many here view him as an irredeemable piece of shit whose development is not worth a second thought, but platooning him seems like a pretty poor method of trying to get him the achieve the level of merely bad hitter (with excellent glove) that I believe he is capable of.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 11:11 AM PST reply actions
That’s kinda what happens tho when the team wants to win now.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
If the team wants to win now they go get Reyes or something that actually improves the team, not Theriot.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
TOO EXPENSIVE TOO RISKY!
/rings bell
/salivates
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
2/26 is too much!
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by speckops on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Playing Theriot over Crawford vs. LHP likely makes the team better this year.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
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Perhaps, infinitessimally, and at the expense of player development.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Any move the Giants make automatically costs twice as much as what it would cost any other team making the same exact move. In other words, the Giants are making the moves they can afford, and because they are paying a higher premium than any other team, they should be congratulated for doing so much to improve the team.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
As usual
Someone finds a much better way of saying what I am thinking.
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mmm, bacon
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He has options left
You know what that means. Belt has options left. You know what that means.
Brett Pill and Manny Burriss do not have options left. You know what that means.
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Sabean gonna Bocock all over Pill and Burriss.
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Burriss should be cut. Now. That’s what it means. And Pill has all those RBIs, so of course he should play every day.
Only one of these statements is serious.
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by can of corn on Jan 27, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
This.
I really think this turns into: Theriot is the starting SS, platooning with Fontenot. Burriss is there to back up 2B and Crawford spends the year at AAA.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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honestly not the worst thing for everyone involved
except the Theriot starting at SS, Platooning with Fontenot and Burriss there to back up 2B part.
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Yeah
This is my nightmare.
While I think Crawford could use more time, the alternative is pretty horrifying.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Jan 27, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
While I think Crawford could use more time, the alternative is pretty horrifying.
This comment should be dark fucking green.
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Sending him to AAA would make much more sense than platooning him (I’m not a big fan of platoons as a means of developing young players).
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
I agree, and would be fine with him getting a full year in Fresno.
I don’t think Theriot and Fontenot combine to make a starting SS, though.
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Unfortunately Brandon Crawford is objectively evil and as such you are wrong.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
As a Crawford booster, I disagree. The kid has a lot of things to learn; there’s no harm in eliminating “how to hit a breaking ball from a lefty” from the list for a while.
I think he needs to learn that in the minors. Throwing him to the wolves and hoping he can figure it out in the majors is a shitty way to develop someone who could be useful at some point.
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Replacing Crawford with Theriot is insane...
Crawford projects to hit 230/300/330 with a great glove and some upside .
Theriot projects to hit 270/320/330 with the worst glove in baseball and no upside.
Sign Roy O
that crawford projection is from ?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
jcb9's ass
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I think it’s close to ZIPs
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:18 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Actually it is.
225/291/336
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Compared to .269/.324/.332 for Theriot.
33 points of OBP makes up for a lot of defense.
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Yeah, I was more surprised that Crawford's line wasn't made up.
But, I’m willing to bet most of the positives for Theriot are based on hitting against LHP. His career vs. RHP is barely better than Crawford’s line last year (wRC+ of 78 vs. 71). Since Theriot is on the decline, I think it’s pretty safe to assume Crawford should start over Theriot vs. RHP.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Does it make up for 30 runs worth?
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+15 runs for Crawford -15 runs for Theriot??
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Yep.
It’s weird how we went from +10 to +13 and now +15 for Crawford in less than 24 hours. This guy’s amazing.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
okay
20 runs
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:31 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Crawford in 500 innings = +6 DRS
Theriot in 700 innings = -12 DRS
Extrapolate to 1000 innings, the difference could be as much as 30 runs.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Sure.
But please slap some error bars on that first.
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I think the word could implies error bars.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Sure. And it could be as high as 100. Error bars at least let you know what’s likely, whereas could is allows for an infinite amount of wiggle room.
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Ridiculous...
he’ll get on base 15 more times than Crawford per 500 plate appearances with no power at all and he’s -20 run defender over the same time period.
Sign Roy O
Riot was -14 last year. Crawford was +8.3
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:33 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
wut
Are you just extrapolating? You know, from a noisy, unreliable number and multiplying it by a bigger number?
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That’s pretty much what UZR/150 is.
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I know, and that bugs me. But more than that it bugs me when people quote UZR to the tenth of a decimal.
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I am still trying to figure out a responsible way of using UZR/150. I’m okay with it in a case like Pablo’s, where he played MOST of a full season, and you can take the difference between UZR and UZR/150 and say MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN HERE!!!!
But the strict mathematical translation is dicey enough without people who take it as gospel.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah, that’s basically what I was going after to begin with. If you only played half or one third of a season, no way do I want to multiply your UZR by 2 or 3.
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Replacing Crawford with Theriot is insane…
GIANTS BASEBALL!
Also this is the team that cemented Aubrey Huff into the starting lineup last year.
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sorry
but that just not true
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:19 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Which part?
Aubrey Huff started 132 games last season.
The other part is a quote and a joke.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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And that's out of the 138 he appeared in.
And he started at 1B in 119 of those games.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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the cementing part.
He was the only viable 1b for most of year
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Except he wasn't viable at all
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
healthy?
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:25 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Dead =/= healthy
He was able to wear the uniform and be positioned near to where a living, breathing 1B would be.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
?
Between August 1st and September 28th (the end of the season) both Huff and Belt were on the active Roster.
Huff appeared in 45 games, Belt appeared in 34.
Belt was used primarily as a pinch hitter or outfielder (LF to be precise) in most of those games. Only starting at 1B in one game.
Huff was the starting 1B for all but 9 of those games.
I am not sure how that is not being cemented it. And Belt was another viable 1B option, who by the way, needs to be groomed to take that position for the foreseeable future.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Giants had no OFs and Belt played a lot after August 15.
Pill took Huff’s spot…that says a lot
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:40 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Giants had no OFs
Healthy and active during this time: Andres Torres, Cody Ross, Carlos Beltran, Nate Schierholtz.
Then in September rosters expand and this argument gets even crazier.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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wait Beltran and Torres were out for a bit in August right?
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:47 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Nate too
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:48 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
2 weeks for Beltran in the middle of the month.
Nate left when Torres came back.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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so 3 OFs
and Torres not really playing
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:52 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
And yet:
Aubrey Huff still started every game without fail until the last week and a half of the season unless he was removed for defensive replacement.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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He also appeared in 150 out of 162 games
Even when he didn’t start Bochy couldn’t resist getting him involved in the game somehow
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that's just not true
Huff lost his spot by early September.
He played in 19 games in Sept. starting 11
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 12:04 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
On a team with an expanded roster.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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who did the giants bring up?
Huff split time with Pill and Belt
OF was Torres, Christian, Belt and Beltran
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 12:08 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
He was not "splitting time" until the last week and half of the season (11 days)
He was the regular starter until September 17th, Having started all but 3 of the games he appeared in up to that point: 12 games, 9 starts.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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You could argue that Bochy thought he was on an upswing
having his second best month of the season hitting in August and was only removed when it looked like he was cratering again.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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STOP STATING FACTS
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THERE ARE NO FACTS ON THE INTERNET
LOOK AT THIS CAT:
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Hahaha. I just got it.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
In my defense:
I did say just to look at the cat.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Now imagine it's the Giants Ownership.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I thought Torres was only put on the DL because they refused to DL Beltran?
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That's what I thought too.
He was ready to play 5-7 days after he was on the DL.
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Correct, then when Nate got hurt they brought Torres back.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I love Crawford.
But 230/300/330 kinda is the upside.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
ZIPs says
.291/.336
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:21 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
So, very similar to Ozzie Smith’s season at age 25?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, well, now that you've comped him to a hall of famer, he's probably good.
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Yes, that’s exactly what I said, he’s going to be a hall of famer.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
HOORAY!
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Or comparable to many scrubs who never amounted to anything in the majors
Wonder why you chose Ozzie Smith over the many other examples
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Other than the fact that the two lines are pretty similar, maybe because he was a very good fielder who struggled to hit and then improved with experience? It took him like 7 years to achieve league average hitting.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve recently wondered if, had Ozzie Smith come up today, if he would get a chance to put together a similar career.
He played one year in the minors (at age 22) and put up a .303/.391/.362 line. A bit old for the league. Presumably exceptional defense. He did put up a 10:3 BB:K ratio, which is pretty bitchin’.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 27, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
If you bring ands and buts to compensate,
we’ll have ourselves a nice little party.
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This is a very healthy first instinct.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Maybe I just don't understand why you would spend more on the back up on the starter.
This just seems like a move designed to give Crawford time in AAA, which might not be a bad thing.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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back up than on the starter*
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Crawford remains the staring SS going into camp, I’m told. Fontenot, Theriot and Burriss all competing for backup jobs.
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Brandon Belt remained the starting 1B going into opening day, I was told
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Because of Ross.
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JOHN BOWKER IS THE STARTING RIGHT FIELDER
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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ONE DAY LATER
HE IS NOT IN A PLATOON
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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10 DAYS LATER
HE IS OUT OF THE LINEUP
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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a move designed
That was almost certainly not by design.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I could definitely be wrong.
Thus why I said it “seems a move designed”. I just don’t understand why a team talking about RDF which only has a little wiggle room left on its 130 million budget would us 1.25 million on a back up for the starter that makes the league minimum.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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The incentives tell me that they want to use him as a backup, given that they constitute almost 40% of the value of the contract.
All things considered, it’s the move that makes the most sense at this point, unless they could get a worthwhile RH bench bat for the same price.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Here's hoping I am wrong like usual.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I think they found some spare change in the Burn’s sisters couches.
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6 MONTHS LATER
THE GIANTS WON THE WORLD SERIES
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With any luck, the end of the Burriss era grows nigh.
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it’s non guaranteed so no biggie
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:13 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Isn’t this almost always going to be the case when your starter is still in his pre-arb years?
I mean, DeRosa/Tejada/Fontenot were all making a lot more than Panda.
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And yet. . . not unexpected.
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ESPN further cementing it's suckitude
NFL Any Era player: Tim Tebow.
Top two comments:
How could you say Tebow could thrive in ANY ERA when he can’t even thrive now???
I think I see their point. In any era he would be able to miss wide open receivers. His skills translate perfectly across any era.
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he would be good in the 50s and 60s
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:24 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Was that before teams starting using defense?
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And people used to attend the games wearing raccoon skin coats
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In 1952, one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history completed 49.7% of his passes. At the time, this was still well above average for the league.
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by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Everything was in black and white. It had to of been hard to figure which players were yours.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually most everything was white.
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by jctGamer on Jan 27, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
HA!
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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It’s not exactly being fair to Otto Graham, of course. That was about as bad as he got. It’s within reason that Tebow will look at 49.7% in five years and think, “If only…”
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
"Analysis"
When you talk about guys who could play in any era, he could play in any era.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I could play in any era too- I’d just completely and totally suck in all of them
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
skip bayless said he would rather have tebow than luck
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Jan 27, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
I do not understand how he is still employed.
Let alone the Tebow love fest.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Entertainment.
The Jersey Shore cast still have jobs.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
I agree with Ray Lewis though
Dude can play in any era, in any sport.
I’m pretty sure he can hit 50 HR. And murder Ty Cobb.
If he hits Wayne Gretzky McSorley would say “Good Job Ray” and walk away.
He’d probably hit Wilt Chamberlain in the mouth and sleep with his 10,000 women.
He would break Tonya Harding’s Legs. Both of them.
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Wilt would have torn Ray Lewis into pieces
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
say that to Ray Lewis
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I would understand this reply if I said I would tear Ray Lewis into pieces
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Here is Wilt with Ali
Yeah, Ray Lewis would run away screaming like baseballs being hit after being thrown by Barry Zito.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
He's no Kareem
dude fought Bruce Lee
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:36 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I was just about to say this.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
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Fixed
dudefoughtgot his ass royally kicked by Bruce Lee
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by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jan 27, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Meh. Some softer lighting, and mebbe there would have been a different result.
by non sequitur on Jan 27, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
Ray Lewis Sports Science!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=u1CwwsWkQLU#t=86s
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Is this the “swat team battering ram or Ray Lewis bullrushing you” one?
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yeah dude killed that door
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Since I can't go to youtube at work
I will consider your reply incorrect.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Hurry up and get off work already.
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Hurry up and get offworkalready.
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waitress’d
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYEbga0XueA
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of football players
I ran into ex-Cowboy Larry Allen in a coffee shop in Alamo. The dude is a mountain with legs.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
The Mountain That Walks
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The Barry Bonds of Mountains?
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I really believe that virtually every player today could have played in any past era. Athletes in every sport continue to improve. Not only are the training methods constantly improving, but there are more players than ever playing the game. Thus creating more competition for spots. Naturally this would mean that players at the top level would be better.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 27, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Have you seen the charts how player sizes have changed over the past century? It’s gotten really crazy.
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Jesus, look at the average basketball player in the ‘80s versus now. It can’t just be weightlifting.
2012 is going to be awesome!
One could make a good case for making the standard football field 5-10 yards wider, and the standard basketball hoop 1-2 feet higher. They have respectively clogged and trivialized the dimensions laid out for predecessors a fraction of their size.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Now compound that with the fact that most defensive lineman are as fast as the skill players of the 60s.
Through the 1980s, Mike Webster, one of the greatest offensive linemen of all time, played at 6’1, 255 lbs.
Tim Tebow is 6’4, 245 lbs
This years Pro Bowlers at Webster’s position:
Mangold at 6’4, 307
Ryan Kalil at 6’2. 295
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 27, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
It’s also compounding the concussion problem. Imagine how many times a lineman gets their bell run every single week.
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Absolutely. Despite playing football through my youth, HS and very early college, I would advise very strongly against playing football at or above the college level. The physics are just too scary now. The human body can’t handle that kind of impact.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 27, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
What's the over/under on Theriot's OPS for 2012 with the AT&T adjustment?
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There’s not much adjustment for a right handed hitter with limited power in ATT.
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I'd go somewhere around
.645
Carter Jurica!
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
it’s the same. Dude has Duane Kuiper power.
But being on the Giants equals a drop of. 30
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:34 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I meant .030
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:35 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
GEAUX
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Géants
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Waiting for the other shoe
It will have to drop sometime.
As Baggs correctly pointed out, we now have a full 40 man roster and Mota has yet to sign his contract and be assigned a roster spot. Even if you assume that Mota gets a minor league contract to start spring training (thus leaving him off the 40 man roster) at some point before the start of the regular season, Mota will have to be put on the 40 man roster. When that happens, then at least 1 guy already on the 40 man will have to be DFA’d and clear waivers before hie can be assigned to Fresno. The most likely candidate will be whomever loses out in the backup catcher battle between Whiteside and Stewart. The only way that the Giants can avoid a DFA is if Mota gets beat out for a spot on the Opening Day 25 man roster by a reliever currently on the 40 man roster (specifically, Hector Correa, Edlefsen or Dan Otero).
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Burriss
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
We know Crawford and his +18 UZR/150 will make the team.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
+25
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:38 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
It'll be at +20 by the end of the day.
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isn’t it the idea that either Mota or Hensley?
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:38 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I thought Baggs included Hensley and Theriot in the 40-man.
And they are both on non-guaranteed deals.
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Also a 25 man logjam
The other looming decision is for the 25 man Opening Day roster. The Giants had 26 men pencilled for those 25 spots prior to the Hensley and Theriot signings – with the odd man out scheduled to be either Whiteside or Stewart. Now the Giants will also have 2 more decisions to make before the end of spring training:
1. Which 2 of the folowing 3 UT infileder candidates will make the 25 man: Fontenot, Burriss, Theriot
2. Which 2 of the following relievers will make the 25 man: Mota, Runzler, Hensley
For decision #1, it appears to me that Burriss is the odd man out. He’s out of options, so he would have to clear waivers before he could be sent down to Fresno. One thing in Manny’s favor is that both Theriot and Fontenot can not refuse an asssignment to Fresno if they didn’t win a spot on the Opening Day roster, but both guys would have to clear waivers before the Giants could send them to Fresno.
For decison #2, Runzler can still be optioned to Fresno without clearing waivers, so he seems to be the odd man out – unless he has a fantastic spring training. If Mota does sign a minor league contract (as Baggs guesses) then he can also be sent to Fresno without going through waivers, but Hensley would have to clear waivers before he could be assigned to Fresno.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I would think it's a slam dunk that Burriss would clear waivers.
And I see Runzler going back to Fresno pretty easily.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I would like to see Runzler demonstrate that he can throw to first base before he is given a 25-man spot.
Also, see my above comment about Burriss going on waivers. April DFAs rarely get claimed.
And if he does get claimed, it’s like pouring Sabean’s booze down the sink. Get that shit out of the house.
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Also, doesn’t Crawford have an option? And Belt does, too, of course.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, but Crawford is guaranteed to make the OD roster, unless he gets injured. Although, I’m not predicting that he won’t be sent back down to Fresno at some point during the season.
As for Belt, I think he’ll make the OD roster, unless one of the other guys fighting for the #4 OF spot wows them in spring training. Specifically, that would include:
Gregor Blanco, Justin Christian, Tyler Graham, Gary Brown and Frankie Pegs.
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I still can't get over Brown's ZiPS
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Pegs seems like the type of player who could really wow them in ST, just because I feel like that’s when you get hitters just mashing balls without necessarily being exposed as having crappy plate discipline.
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I believe that he is the type of htter that could wake up one morning and magically have it all together – similar to what happened to Panda. Frankie’s defense is already major league-ready, so if his bat becomes magical he could easily make the jump from Richmond to the SF 25 man roster.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
He’s putting up fine numbers now… the issue is the steadfast refusal to ever take a walk. How one hits .300+ and puts up a .318 OBP, I have no idea.
I want to believe he will wake up and know how to take a walk, but…
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Panda doesn’t walk much, nor did Vlad Guererro. The key for Frankie Pegs is going to be can he hit for more power than he has shown so far?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Career walk rate and OBP:
Guerrero: 8.1%, .379
Sandoval: 7.2%, .356
Peguero: 3.6%, .344 in the low minors
It’s a matter of degrees.
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Sandoval has walked more since he has been in the majors. 4.7% and 3.8% his first two seasons. 2008 was split, but it looks like it was about 5.5%
That’s not too far off from Peguero’s 3.6%
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Panda did not walk at those rates in the minors, which underscores my point about Pegureo having the possibility of improving;
Panda 2006 (Augusta): BB=4.7% (in 438 ABs)
Panda 2007 (SJ): BB=3.8% (in 401 ABs)
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Okay, I'll concede that point.
But getting back to my original point is that it’s not as though he isn’t hitting in the minors. The MLEs don’t project fantastically well at this point, but he did come back from surgery and hit .309 in the EL. If there’s something to criticize in his 2011, it’s that he got 5 walks in 71 games.
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I think we’re discussing 2 diferent things. I agree with you that the likelihood that Frankie Pegs ever becomes a good major league hitter is very slim. My original point was just that he could possibly catch fire in ST (as could Blanco, Christian or Graham) and make the SF roster out of ST as a 4th OF. I highly doubt it will happen, but he does make consistent enough solid contact and he does have the defense, arm strength and speed to be a legitiamate major league outfielder.
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Okay, I see what happened. You were responding to the “Frankie Pegs could go nuts in ST” comment, but I was responding to your assertion “Frankie is the type that could randomly put it all together” without addressing the context.
I think Peguero could be a cheap 4th outfielder in time, but I’m a bit confused as to your view on him. His only real stumbling blocks are 1) a forgettable first foray at August, 2) the walks, and 3) maybe more consistent power, though .440 isn’t anything to sneeze at.
I could see him going to the PCL next year (given that he’ll be 24) and putting up fine numbers again after adjusting for the league. What do you see as his major hurdles other than more pop? Am I giving him too much credit for .312/.344/.436?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I still think there’s a world of difference between a 3.8% walk rate and a 1.7% walk rate. One is pretty bad; the other has got to be nearly historically bad.
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I thought Pegs walked even less than he does (hard to imagine), but I guess I was letting last year’s 1.7% cloud my judgment. His BB% is actually pretty comparable to Panda’s.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
What makes me deeply pessimistic about Peguero is not so much the walks as the strikeouts. Here’s a player who almost never gets to ball four but is still striking out 15% of the time. This suggests that he doesn’t really have any room to improve his approach; if he starts taking some pitches, his strikeouts are going to spike up.
I think the Giants still really like Belt, and want him to produce like they think they should. That he keeps getting jerked around isn’t really helping, but I think they want to find PAs for him this season.
As I said before, if Belt scuffles and Cabrera and Huff both produce I could see him going to Fresno, but otherwise they’ll probably try to grind it out with him at the big league level.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I thnk that they like him, but you have to remember Bohy’s history with rookies. Given the option, he almost always sits them on the bench. Let’s not forget that he was starting Bengie ahead of Buster in May and June of 2010, and Sabes had to trade Bengie to force Bochy to put Buster in as the starting catcher. I think what’s most likely to happen this year is that Belt will scuffle at the pltate at some point in the first 2 months of the season (even the best hitters scuffle at some point every year) and that Bochy will use that excuse to make Belt ride the bench. Eventually, Sabes will have to send Belt back down to Fresno at some point just to get him regular playing time.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Buster and Belt both pushed Huff to the outfield so that they could get PAs.
I know Bochy likes his vets, but Belt is expected to be the everyday 1B in 2013. He’s not going to get there by not “paying his dues.”
I think Belt splits time at LF and 1B, and gets around 400 PAs this year. Especially if Huff doesn’t rebound.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I don’t see Huff getting much time in the OF. He’s just not a good defender there anymore. IMO, if Huff is getting regular ABs then it will be at 1B. If Belt isn’t getting regular starts through the first 2 months of the season it will be because he’s not hitting well. In that case, I see no way that Sabes won’t send him down to Fresno to work on his hitting stroke.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I think there’s a chance it could happen.
Bochy and Sabean said, “Huff needs to come into camp next year ready to play the outfield.”
To me, this says that they intend to play Belt at 1B at least some of the time. And if Huff wants to stay in the lineup, he’d damn well better look good on both sides of the ball.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
The only problem is
Both of those guys have lied about these things before.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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They always say stuff like that before the season starts. Don’t forget that Belt won the starting 1B spot out of ST last year. It didn’t take long for Bochy to bench him after his first hitting slump and it didn’t take long for Huff to show that he can no longer be counted on to be a competent defender in the OF. Do you think that players of Huff’s age all of a sudden become much better defenders once the decline has already begun?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I think the Belt situation is really unique and colored by the success of Posey
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 1:06 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
And that explains what happened to Belt last year? C’mon, if Posey had changed Bochy’s tendencies then Belt wouldn’t have been jerked around by Bochy last year.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Not what I meant.
Posey made the FO think that prospects can be starter ASAP.
Belt should have been in AAA
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by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 1:11 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Haha
The sad thing is, the biggest reason why Posey and Belt were treated differently is because Posey hit a couple ground-ball singles in his first game.
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Yup.
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He was batting over .300 for his first month in the majors.
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Only because Cody Ross was on the DL and they wanted Belt to be comfortable. If Cody doesn’t pull up lame in Scottsdale, we probably don’t see Belt until Posey gets injured.
And I think Huff showed up to camp thinking he wouldn’t have to play the outfield and that he had the first base job on lock, and as such was not in good condition to be chasing fly balls.
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Whoa
What would happen here is Brown beats out Belt for a roster spot?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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LOL BELT
Then we know he’d be done as an SF Giant.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
People would freak out.
Much as it’s unlikely. I mean, remember when people talked about Buster breaking camp with the team? And Brown isn’t a Posey-level prospect.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I’d be ok with it, if it means Brown is hitting and playing every day in CF. But I’m also not very optimistic that Belt gets to play much, even if he’s on the roster.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
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I’d be pissed. There is no way Brown should not be in the minors this year.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Brown only makes the team if he has a truly miraculous spring training and wins the starting CF spot outright. He’s not going to be put on the 25 man OD roster as the #4 outfielder. Essentially, Belt is competing agianst Pill and Huff for a spot on the 25 man roster. If for some reason he can’t solidify his hold on the starting 1B spot during ST, then Belt could back into a spot on the OD roster by taking the 4th OF spot. My point is that there is an outside chance that one of the true minor league outfielders steps up their game enough to win the #4 OF spot outright.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Belt is not competing against Pill. Pill is competing against RH bench bats.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Belt is competing against Pill and Huff for the starting 1B spot. Pill would have to have a very bad ST not to win a spot on the bench as a pinch hitter/platoon 1B.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Pill is not going to be the starting 1B. My guess is he’ll mostly start against certain lefties and on getaway days.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
If Pill has a fantastic ST and Belt and Huff don’t hit well, I can see Pill getting the 1B nod to start the season. Don’t forget that in the past 4 years under Bochy the following guys have won starting spots on his team out of spring training:
Belt @ 1B, Burriss @ 2B, Bowker @ RF
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
I really, really doubt it. Pill is on the team because Burrell is gone, not for 1B depth.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Where else is Pill going to play, LF or DH? If he’s on the team he’s going to get at least 1 start a week at 1B.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Like I said,
certain lefties and getaway days. Most of his appearances will probably come as a bench bat now that Burrell, Ross, and Rowand are all off the roster.
It’s him or Theriot, plus maybe one of Melky or Pagan.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
One other scenario that has a fairly strong possibility of coming up is with Gregor Blanco. Blanco is only on a minor league contract, so if he were to make the OD roster out of spring training, the Giants would have to clear up a spot on the 40 man and the 25 man rosters. I would guess that Justin Christian and Tyler Graham would be the most likely candidates to waived off of the 40 man, while Brandon Belt or Brett Pill will be the likeliest player that is sent to Fresno if Blanco wins a spot on the OD roster. Of course, all this assumes that there is no injury that keeps a 25 man regular off of the OD roster out of spring training.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
LOL. This is the team I root for
Henry Schulman @hankschulman
Crawford is going to hear a lot of Cajun-Tiger footsteps behind him this spring http://sfg.ly/wNjUDp
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
A real tiger would never be so careless as to let you hear its footsteps.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
So I guess I have to hope that Fontenot is awesome in spring training and Crawford sucks
So that they can get to the configuration they should have been going with all along.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Player hats 2012
Crawford
Fontenot
Theriot
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
I already own that Crab hat.
It’s awesome. Mine is not nearly as clean as that.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
small lobsters
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:43 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
It's a crawfish.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
The most Sabean move that Sabean has ever Sabeaned.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
that would be yuni
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:44 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Our shortstop is a hat
Your argument is invalid.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
would still.have more range than Theriot
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 11:45 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Fontenot, Theriot, the place is buzzin'
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Been There :(
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Solution: both do a 180.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
by bgunn on Jan 27, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
DO A BARRELL ROLL
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Hahah, this is exactly what I was going to type!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
(Minus the misspelling)
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
shh
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Pending what you're into.
Only one person needs to do a 180.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
PIGGY BACK!
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Level 100 is when she’s holding the other guy’s hand while doing this.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Haha!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
whats level 101?
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
More importantly...What’s Level 109 ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
That’s when she starts changing her… I can’t
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Level 101 is when she’s holding the other guy’s hand propeller while doing this.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
It involves her sharting and him apologizing and cleaning up.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
This signing is absurd.
I’ve crunched the numbers, and currently can project with some certainty that Mssr. Crawford will hit .293/.339/.413 with a ++glove. There’s no way that Theriot will match that level of production. This contract is wasted money on the part of the Giants. The undeniable veteran savvy of Mssr. Theriot will not make up for the combination of offensive potential and fielding excellence that Brandon Crawford brings to the team.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
by Alex_Lewis on Jan 27, 2012 12:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
1) contract is non guaranteed
2) We are talking about him better than Burris
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 12:10 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
This contract is wasted money on the part of the Giants.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
THEY MIGHT AS WELL BE WIPING THEIR ASSES WITH THAT MONEY!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
THIS CONTRACT IS DRUNK OFF OF MORAL TURPENTINE IT'S SO WASTED
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Buriss gotta go.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Ahh...nostalgia
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2009/4/10/830269/burris-gotta-go
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
no way
It is a very good deal for a baserunner and stealer. With the loss of Ford and moving Burriss into a 1B slot, you have no pinch runner for late inning relief of Melky. Plus he has great bat control so if you need a bunt, there you go. And he can also play all over the middle infield, whereas Crawford doesn’t have any 2B experience at all.
by Hyoton on Jan 27, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Your projections look a little low.
Especially since Crawford is a ++++glove.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Morning Fog
Say goodbye to my view. We’ll be moving offices soon, and I’ll probably be looking at a brick wall. :(
/squints
Is this on California?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
For a second I thought you meant the city of
and I was so very confused.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah, I was all WUT!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
HOW IS FOG FORMED????
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
When a fog man likes a fog woman in a very special way, he sends her a dirty picture of himself to her through the company email that they work at. They then make out in the storage room and have sex in the bathroom bar at happy hour. 9 months later: new fog.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
That’s a 6 hour plan
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Pfft
6 hour plan after you get into the bathroom
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
I do admire your persistence.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
My failures are legendary. Saturday is going to be a spectacular explosion of drama. I have foreseen it. I’ve actually lined up several different girls I’m interested in to all compete with one another for most incredible disaster all on the same day. How I do it, I have no idea. But it will certainly be interesting.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I've found myself in that sort of mess before.
It is always spectacular, if disastrous.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 27, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Have you arranged for video documentation?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
No, but there will be plenty of witnesses.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
So I have to ask viliphied about it?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I like how he jumped in to clarify the story the other night.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Line them all up and say, “I like you. Would you like to date me?”
And then when they look around trying to figure out which one you’re talking to, just tell them that if their answer is yes, you were talking to them.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I read this as Chris Hansen. I was confused.
by S. Pickford #25 on Jan 27, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Persistence
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Number 1 rated movie by stalkers worldwide.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
the trenchcoat
such an underrated article of clothing
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I do in fact love and own that movie.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Oh, sorry! It’s on Sacramento Street. I’m surprised that pic came out decent. It’s from my phone and it usually takes crappy pics.
No, I get ya. My father has said similar things about the move his firm is currently undergoing.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
that's cool where do you work in sacramento
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
City Sammich
In between two slices of San Jose
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
i live in sacrojose where do you get your san franwiches
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Basing anything on what happens during sprint training is everything that is wrong with the Giants in one easily identifiable nutshell
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 12:10 PM PST reply actions
SPRINT TRAINING!
Spring Training, obviously
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Thar she blows.
The Phillies avoided arbitration with Hunter Pence, agreeing to a one-year, $10.4MM contract for 2012, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com tweets. Beverly Hills Sports Council represents the right fielder.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
That’s MLBTR, by the way. Link
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Wow, that's less than what Melky Cabrera will make in 2013.
by Every6thDay on Jan 27, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Trollin'
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Man Pence is really popular right now.
He just got casted in the Starship Troopers remake, too.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
less than carlos beltran....weird
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
he'll be the starting SS by April 20
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
Flags Fly Forever
"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 27, 2012 12:16 PM PST reply actions
Maybe the Giants saw something I didn't when he played there last season
But Fontenot should just be the shortstop.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The Giants hate Fontenot tho
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Come, stay a while, and listen!
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I just needed you to identify this ring…
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
They also thought OCab was better.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
If I remember, they just don’t think he has the arm strength to play SS. That’s why he (luckily for us) got pulled form playing SS in the 2010 playoffs and replaced by Renteria and why he was never in the Cabrera/Tejada/Crawford Battle of the Suck last year. I’ve never seen any indication that this was true but what do I know— I’m just a fan who watches stuff on TV.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
He didn’t really play SS in 2010.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Yeah, 5 games and 29 innings.
For his career, 50 games at SS, 37 of which came in 2011.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Though I guess I'll predict that at some point this season, Fonteriot will be the everyday SS platoon.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I am going with that
Anything but Burris is my new motto
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Jan 27, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Theory: Bochy hates short guys guys with regular size heads
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
/sigh of relief
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
So I am taking over duties of maintaining a Joomla based site. Man is Joomla a waste of time. I’ve got to take classes and learn how to do a website correctly.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:26 PM PST reply actions
I don’t even think Joomla is a real thing that things are based on.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Well all the content and tables are based in joomla
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
And I hate it.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Joomla is just a word you made up while you were thinking about Mario.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
the main thing I remember about Ryan Theriot is that I somehow ended up looking at his Facebook page a couple years ago
And he’s friends with a lot of pornstars and “doesn’t read books.”
by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 27, 2012 12:32 PM PST reply actions
I don’t think this puts him in a minority among baseball players, mind you. It was just kinda depressing to see it confirmed.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 27, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
frank gore
scored a 6 on his wonderlic test (out of 50…10 is literate) and he is a national treasure
Ride the tiger...You can see his stripes but you know he's clean.
by James Westfall on Jan 27, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
At one point didn’t the niners have the dumbest and the smartest player in the NFL?
by S. Pickford #25 on Jan 27, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Wonderlic is not really the measure to base this on.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
I agree, but I’m not sure it was based on wonderlic. I’ll have to do some googling.
by S. Pickford #25 on Jan 27, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
I can't believe that we're so bored that there's been over 400 posts over Theriot vs. Fontenot
Should we be deconstructing last night’s P&R or listing more songs or something? I forgot how to talk baseball stuff
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 12:36 PM PST reply actions
you could be at a
sexual harassment prevention training
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by CalBear949 on Jan 27, 2012 12:40 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Yea well there is no baseball being played
Throw 2 oz of steak to 2 hungry dogs, is like giving MCC 1 roster addition in late Jan.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Jan 27, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Warning on size, but still:
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
by scout6 on Jan 27, 2012 12:42 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
lol I've seen this used for other cities.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
GOT news!
There’s gonna be a new trailer aired before the premiere of Luck on Sunday night.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Shameless!
It is raunchy and absurd, but so so good.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 27, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Ahhh too bad.
Luck intrigues me, I’ll probably give it a shot. I can’t freaking wait for GoT to come back though.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 27, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
I cut showtime
It only had that show. They cut US of Tara, I watched the franchise, and almost nothing else. Weeds I watched on netflix when I had it, but I think I got to season 4 and it got weird.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Jan 27, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Shameless!
It is raunchy and absurd, but so so good.
Just got into this—it’s good. So is House of Lies.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
I watched the pilot, and couldn’t really get into it. I should give it another shot.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 27, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
I thought the pilot was way too much and not particularly funny. If I had Showtime, I’d stick with it a bit more such is my love of Kristin Bell (and Jean Ralphio!) but the show was trying way too hard
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
oh come on
@hankschulman
Henry Schulman
Next name to watch for Giants: Xavier Nady. There’s some mutual interest, but almost certainly on a minor-league deal + invite.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 27, 2012 12:44 PM PST reply actions
BAHAHAHAHA
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
asdfasfsdfasdfbdfastg
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Bay Area Ties
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
..
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Things I remember about Xavier Nady:
- went directly from college to the pros
- has had not one, but two Tommy John surgeries (note: Xavier Nady is not a pitcher.)
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 27, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I remember him having a Jon Bowker type body.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
They’re pretty similar: Nady is listed at 6’2", 215 lbs., Bowker is 6’1", 205.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 27, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I once new a guy who arms where so short that he could hardly his arm pits.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Buh?
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
reach… as in he could barley reach across his chest and touch the opposite shoulder.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure how much of this is intentional.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
The Yankees traded Tabata +junk for him and Marte
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
SHE'S A NADY - WHOA, WHOA ,WHOA
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
My dad sings this whenever he hears about Nady.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
Last year it was NADY IN RED
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
OH YES ITS NADYS NIGHT AND THE FEELINS RIGHT
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES A NADY
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
LAY NADY LAY
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
WHO’S THAT NADY? (WHO’S THAT NADY?)
XAVIER NADY (WHO’S THAT NADY?)
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
lol
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
"Ask GiantPain about my penis" - Billy Beane
Mayor of Smug.
ALL THE SINGLE NADY’S
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
DUDE LOOKS LIKE A NADY
BAH DAH BAH DAH
DUDE LOOKS LIKE A NADY
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Xavier Nady is older than me
And 3 years out of his prime. Sounds so Sabean to me.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Jan 27, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
We better hope that RAJ doesn’t beat us to him!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 27, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Show me what you got Raj Raj
/Discount doublecheck check dance
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Jan 27, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Sabean is really Sabeaning around right now
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Sabean is such a troll.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Nady had a lower OBP than Crawford last year.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
I was being optimistic earlier in the thread
I would like to amend my position, please.
Nady is horrible. He’s also a former Padre meaning Boch will play the shit out of him. Holy hell.
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 27, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Need more players with "X" in their names.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
GRITTY GAMER OVERLOAD!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
For cheering up purposes:
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
You know what game I’d like to watch? The one against Detroit where we scored 17 runs, or something like that. I was out of town and didn’t catch all of it.
This entire Colorado series was one of the best series of the year.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I went into a movie during the rain delay, and was sure the game was going to get cancelled.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Font\Theriot\Crawford battle in ST v Belt\Pill\Huff
Can’t wait until Sabean gets some bats with nails, blindfolds, cages and a scorpion.
Gotta see who will win the job!
Blerg
I think Keppinger would have been better
Walks more than we strikes out and doesn’t try to steal 20 bases a year to get caught 13 times.
Irrational Conor Gillaspie fanboy.
What does someone have to do to be disbarred anyway?
Passing the bar is license to steal. Look at the case on this guy. Dude steals money from people and the most that happens is that he’s moved to inactive enrollment. Out and out steals from people, and he doesn’t even get a fine for it. All he has to do is say ‘I have a drug problem’. Oh, is that all? Sheesh. AND dude took people’s money after being made inactive. /shakes head
Because you all care about legal stuff.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
This guy also married a client whose father died under questionable circumstances. The wrongful death became the heart of a lawsuit that was settled later on.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
What the fuck, Sabean. He's in some weird time warp.
He’s in love with 2008. Theriot and Nady were great in ’08.
He is adopting the Cubs winning philosophy.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Or maybe just adopting Cubs.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
So my boss is a long time A’s season ticket holder and I guess has been signaling to them that he’s not going to buy them for 2012 because of the way the team is being handled. Just got a call from the A’s and they’ve set up a one on one telephone call between him and Lew Wolff on Monday morning. I REALLY want to listen in.
The first six innings are overrated.
Likewise.
I am putting together a short film and trying to raise funds for it is certainly outside of my skill set and it is slightly humiliating. I cannot imagine what a sales pitch from a millionaire would sound like.
“Buy my season tickets or I will RUIN you. You and everyone and everything you hold dear.”
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Germans. Talk to Germans.
They get a 100% tax write off for sponsoring film.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I still do not believe Bochy
Henry Schulman @hankschulman
Just talked to Bochy, who confirms he views Crawford as the starting SS. Theriot would start v some lefties. Craw was 4-for-30 v LHP as rook
But platooning a young player will not help his growth right?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I think that’s the reason behind “some,” rather than an implied “all.” But of course that’s just speculation on my part, with a dash of confirmation bias.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
How can anyone here not at least have this scenario somewhere in their mind:
Crawford and Theriot start in a platoon. Crawford hits like, well Crawford. Theriot goes 4-9 against the lefties he faces or say something like 8-20.
Bochy comes out: “I like the way Theriot is swinging the bat lately, we are gonna get him some more time” and he starts playing against RHP..
Soon there is no platoon.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Also: 30 AB sample decisions!
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
It’s times like this I wish I knew where to look up minors splits.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Maybe Goldfarb knows!
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Its all over people, we don't have a platoon advantage!
"I never stop being amazed by how much people who hate stats because they’re "flawed" quote so much more obviously flawed stats. " -Joe Posnanski
by RichHerreraHomer on Jan 27, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
http://mlsplits.drivelinebaseball.com/mlsplits/playerinfo/543063
No totals tho.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
Bochy pores over statistics before making any decisions.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
Huh… never even thought about that homophone.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 29, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
While I get that Crawford ain't great against lefties...
I hate it when people use microsplits as support for their argument. I mean, it’s 30 plate appearances. C’mon now.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 27, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Bruce Bochy uses microsplits all the time.
I usually forget about this part of his personality (on purpose) but it happens so often this actions adequately replace my need to remember.
Yeah, and there is almost always a better reason to do the same thing.
In this instance, “With Theriot, he has a pretty good history of doing pretty well against lefties, so that will allow us to sit Crawford occasionally against some tougher lefties to keep him fresh.” Something like that, perfectly acceptable reasoning, but instead their reasoning for doing it will be that he didn’t do well in 30 plate appearances one season.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 27, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Well, my guess here is that Bochy said he’ll start against lefties. It’s quite possible that Hank just pulled up the numbers for context.
I certainly wouldn’t put it past Bochy to base it on 30 PAs, but I think that’s not what he said in this instance.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Part of me believes the person was benched for sucking or making jokes about Bochy’s head and Bochy just spews that crap to make it seem like they weren’t benched because of it. Cause he’s a Player’s Manager and all
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
I could see a full 2b\ss platoon
Crawford and Font vs RHP and Sanchez Theriot vs LHP
occasionally at least
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Jan 27, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
lol NFL
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
Trivia time
Who is the only player to homer 4 times in a game, and yet have his team lose the game?
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Mike Cameron?
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Trick Question. There are two.
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Job 1:14-15
Hint:
He was teammates with Ken Griffey Sr. and Dale Murphy that year.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
This was a little after his time. Andres Galarraga was on the opposing team.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
No. He’s a little less well known than that. Good slugger for his day, but never made it into his 30’s. He did win the ROY award in 1978 over Ozzie Smith.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
What, no one's said Bob Horner yet?
That was the first name I thought of.
Anagram of "SF Giants season" = GAS OF NASTINESS
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jan 27, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Manny Burriss.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
I must have a thing for defensive SS.
I know his bat would be a liability, but I would like to see Crawford play at SS. I wish I was smart enough to do an analysis finding where the balance point is with our + pitching combined with + defense = x runs needed on offense. I would think that with our pitching staff, any changes to that side of the equation carry a multiplier compared to averages.
I was also a Jose Uribe fan though too.
UUUU! RIBE!!!
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Clearly SBNation is too excited for Ryan Theriot
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
No
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
DAMMIT
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
THIS IS BULLSHIT
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
.... and then I told her, hey, look, almost everyone has a uncurable disease of some sort.
Herpes isn’t fatal and symptoms can usually be suppressed.
Oh, crap, we’re back on the air.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
How are you? You look awfully nice tonight. Hmm? Maybe don’t wear a bra next time. No, I was talking to you. No, not her. I don’t know her name. What is it? Lanolin? La-Lanolin? Like sheep’s wool?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
?
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Jan 27, 2012 3:02 PM PST reply actions
while we are complaining about sbn
the mobile app pissed me off because you can’t see fanshots. which isn’t a big deal except when we get one as the front page main post and then I can’t see it from the app
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 27, 2012 3:05 PM PST via Android app reply actions
You should ask Siri about that.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
PSA: job hunters
American River College must be expecting to Golden Handshake a bunch of people after this term. They just posted assistant professorship positions in English, ECE, Anthropology, Physics and Psych.
https://jobs.losrios.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/frameset/Frameset.jsp?time=1327705672504
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I could fake anthropology. I wonder if these are good jobs. No sense leaving my current temp job if a community college’s wouldn’t be any better.
by non sequitur on Jan 27, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
they require a master’s or the equivalent in the subject. They are full time, tenure track positions, at least the ones I looked at, which like NEVER happens anymore. I will apply but being a white female in ECE with little experience teaching adults I’ve got about a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the job.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
The best way in to teaching full-time at a CC is to teach part-time at a CC. Perhaps the same CC.
"Only connect..."
E. M. Forster
Oh yeah, I know that, but you just can’t get hired unless you have experience. I always get called for the interview, and get put in “sub pool” but never get called for an actual position. Drove all the way to freaking Bakersfield once for an interview, kinda glad I didn’t get the job though after spending the night there.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
When people in Fresno, and rightfully so, make fun of Bakersfield, that’s saying something.
"Only connect..."
E. M. Forster
it even smelled bad.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
and not “Stockton” bad. At least in Stockton you know it’s cow p00p, Bakersfield was chemically bad
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I tend to use Bakersfield as the punch lines of my California jokes. I feel kinda bad about it because I have only ever driven through there.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 27, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
I do it because no one’s ever heard of Tehachapi.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
ghost town
and home of Al the Wop!
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Jan 27, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Contained within the film ‘Blood Orgy of the Leather Girls’ is footage of a much younger me, with a shaved head, wearing a Santa suit and wielding a machete, that was shot in Locke. So there.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
This will be made into a GIF shortly.
Cash rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar dollar bill y'all
I would find that to be quasi impressive.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
What is ECE?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
EME’s half-brother?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Early childhood education.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ah.
Thanks.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
early childhood education
my fiancee is majoring in it as we speak
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 27, 2012 3:24 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Oh.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 27, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Have the Giants announced that the 't' is now silent?
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
go pablo
CHConfidential @CHConfidential
Pablo Sandoval was the third baseman who saved his team the most runs in 2011 with 22 for the @SFGiants. #ThinkBaseball
His defensive transformation has been stunning.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 27, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Wendy Sez
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/pablo-sandoval-jack-be-nimble-jack-be-quick/
With the fewest innings played of the four, Sandoval led all third basemen in the three types defensive metrics tracked on FanGraphs. He had the most rPM (runs plus minus saved) and DRS (defensive runs saved) with 20 and 22, respectively. He had the highest RZR (revised zone rating) and excelled at reaching balls outside the average third baseman’s zone (OOZ). He also had the highest UZR/150 at 17.9. And he did all of this on the team with the third-highest ground-ball rate in the majors.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
LOL all you people in 2008 that said he’d never be able to be a decent third baseman!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jan 27, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
He is simply an incredible athlete. His reflexes and hand-eye coordination are off the charts.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 27, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
You’ve heard the (perhaps apocryphal) story about how he learned to hit back in Venezuela, right?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
In Praise Of Men Who Swing From The Heels (and Transform Franchises While They’re At It)
The excerpt in question:
Sandoval’s bad-ball skills are a function of his sublime hand-eye coordination, developed in the garage of his boyhood home in Puerto Cabello, Venezuela, where his older brother Michael would pitch him bottle caps, corn kernels and rolls of tape.
It’s a pretty fun article.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I second this, sounds like a story that would be lots of fun to read.
by fishmicmuffin on Jan 27, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
what fun!
Happy Brithday!
or was that Merry Christmas?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
What will they be until then?
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
grizzlies
or possibly flying squirrels
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Come check out the McC Book Club Start Date 1/21
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Jan 27, 2012 3:25 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Outside chance of GreenJackets or Volcanoes.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
You mean Xavier Nady and Jerry Hairston?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 27, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
I have a friend who works for the Mariners
of course, I haven’t talked to him in maybe 15 years
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
fanshot
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2012/1/27/2753442/nerbs-headed-to-seattle
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
shift-A
Been working all day, so let me just say right here: what the actual fuck, Brian Sabean. What the actual fuck.
The 2012 slogan!!!
Giants Baseball: WTAF ?!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
If you have to ask, "What the actual fuck?",
…you haven’t been paying attention.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Not in love with the deal...
But also don’t hate it. Theriot has some value and if Crawford is anything like he was last year at the plate, then Theriot will become a better option at short, even if your giving up some defense. I don’t think he’s nearly as bad a defender as people make him out to be, he’s just not a great defensive player for the small-ball style of player he is. Kind of a better version of Jeff Keppinger if you ask me, and for 1.2 mill, not a bad deal at all!
Stats of the day:
Player A: Career: Age: 31 .281/.332/.388 .720 92 OPS+ -.08 dWAR
Player B: Career: Age: 32 .282/.344/.353 .697 83 OPS+ -1.0 dWAR
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
I bet they didnt keep Kepp because him and Theriot would just spend all day in the clubhouse doing that thing where they have their hands close up against each other and are moving them at the same time, like they were looking in a mirror.
The first six innings are overrated.
by apistat on Jan 27, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ayup.
That’s it. If Keppinger looked like just a bad second baseman, I’d have preferred him. But he was as bad, if not worse, than Velez. And I’m not taking that back.
by Grant Brisbee on Jan 27, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Also: Keppinger hits LHP better too.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
GO, 7-3.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Have the Giants signed any more grit while I was commuting?
Because I think this team lacks is some grit. This team needs to be like asphalt. It should give other teams roadrash.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 4:22 PM PST reply actions
Unless we get steamrolled.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
When people have splintery pieces of wood
They should be able to rub is against a Giants player and make it all smooth.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 27, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Has nobody done a “True Grit” photoshop yet? Get on it, nerbs.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
This poster is just begging to be 'shopped.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Ummm...we had a few on the 2011 Giants, and you saw how THAT turned out.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
They just stocked this in the SF and Scottsdale Clubhouses...
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