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So glad we didn’t get Marco Scutaro. Lopez >> a SS who can barely be a league average bat.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 10:59 PM PST reply actions  

trolol?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

C’mon. Lopez is really important for all those lefties (and righties) we’ll have late innings. Can’t rely on a Romosexual.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Still not sure if you’re serious.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Romosexuals are inherently unreliable. If he were really good, he’d strike out at least half of the people that he faced.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh thank god. I was kind of looking forward to pointing out that Scutaro was 4x more valuable than Lopez last year, though.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m almost a little hurt that you didn’t know that I was trolololing.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I suspected it! I just wanted to make sure. I’m really looking for anything to do besides studying for my soil science midterm.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Midterms? Already?

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

We started up again on the 3rd. I had a lab section midterm after just two labs. It was dumb.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Woooooow.

Lose.

If it makes you feel better, there were multiple times I had 3 midterms in a 10 week quarter, with a midterm 1 week before the final. Dumb.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s exactly how this class is I think.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It still bothers me that the Giants spent $9.5 million on two lefty relievers when they had other needs.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s my #1 complaint about this offseason. I think it’s weird they didn’t have much money to spend, but if that’s the case I understand. Their allocation of the available money, however, is mind-numbingly inexplicable.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Although, this is kind of what we were saying at the trade deadline in ’10.

by BrianIsAwesome on Jan 23, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone was against the Ramirez trade, really. We just gave up a non-prospect reliever. I don’t remember the reaction to the Lopez trade, but it was probably mixed.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it was less what we gave up and more “wait, we didn’t get a bat?”

by BrianIsAwesome on Jan 23, 2012 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Which was a very valid complaint.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. I was real bummed when they only picked up two middle relievers. So glad I was wrong.

by BrianIsAwesome on Jan 23, 2012 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Obviously I wouldn't change anything with the advantage of hindsight.

But if the Giants were in that position again, I would still clamor for a bat.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll never forget Affledt coming in to bail out J. Sanchez in the NLCS. That turned the series around right there. One of my favorite Giants moments ever.

by BrianIsAwesome on Jan 23, 2012 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

That was pretty cool. Also, Charlie Manuel constructing his lineup just so that Lopez couldn’t face 3 lefties in a row. He made that big of an impact.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Or the way Lopez was basically unhittable the entire post season. Damn, definitely watching the playoff DVDs tomorrow.

by BrianIsAwesome on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Charlie Manuel should’ve been doing that anyway though.

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Jan 24, 2012 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I still think that the extenuating circumstances of these two deals are way more important than anyone wants to acknowledge.

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by Solidarity on Jan 23, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey!

I think it’s really weird. Makes me wonder why Scutaro was gotten rid of so cheap.

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by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, me too.

If GP is right about how awful the Red Sox’s return was, something’s fishy.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

It wasn’t about the return. It was about the salary dump.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I know

The Giants were unwilling to take on 6 million dollars – just six million dollars – to get a good shortstop.

Instead, they’ll pay Lopez and Affeldt 9.5 million.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

The longer this off season goes on, the more I think they truly believe that Crawford will be worth at least 2 WAR. The optimist in me (it’s a very small, frail part of me, it should be on life support, but it isn’t) wants to say that having Field fx let them know that his defense is so good that even if he hits .200/.250/.275 he’ll be worth 1.5 WAR.

They’re hoping like hell for Burriss, but I think they truly believe in Crawford. I’ll just have to hope like hell they’re right.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they’re being cheap, and he probably sold more T-shirts than Miggy. They’ve been burned for years on bad SS, and probably have no confidence in their own ability to scout one anymore. So they’re giving Crawford a chance. If it fails miserably, they do something at the deadline.

Hey, you’re supposed to be fretting over Tim & Matt right now, get with the program!

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by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

While I am cynical enough to believe in the t-shirts part of this, I doubt that it was their primary concern. More likely, the ownership group really is holding the budget to 130 million without exception and having a league minimum shortstop allows the Giants to fill other spots they (stupidly) believe are more important.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

The T-shirt part was the little joke I threw in. It’s mostly cheapness.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

They’ve been burned for years on bad SS, and probably have no confidence in their own ability to scout one anymore.

If that’s true, you fire some people and hire some competent people. You don’t stop signing shortstops.

As to Tim and Matt, I can’t get worked up about it yet. They’re both on the team this year. I’ll freak out once that changes. Or once they give someone a $300mil contract

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

It seems like the FO are reactive in a really bad way about their past decisions. Instead of looking at where they are/what they can get right now, they look at how they fucked up or lucked out in the past and base decisions on that.

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by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The funny part about this is the idea that they think in terms of WAR.

by Evan on Jan 24, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, yeah, substitute Sabey Sabester speak for that. 7.3 grits, or 2.7 good soldiers. Something like that.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Extenuating circumstances?

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Clayton Mortenson’s dad works for the Red Sox?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The fact that Boston probably doesn’t make this deal under the old CBA, when Lopez and Affeldt were signed. Or the fact that we don’t know who initiated the trade talks. And the fact that we don’t know whether Scutaro was being openly shopped. Or the fact that the move was probably reactive in the face of the Yankees’ aggressive moves to acquire pitching (since at face value this move frees up payroll for Oswalt). Or the fact that we don’t know if the Giants inquired on Scutaro earlier, but the price dropped when it became a payroll move for the Sox.

I wish we had acquired him too, but it’s not like Scutaro was up on Craigslist with an OBO tag.

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by Solidarity on Jan 23, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess these could have affected it.

But none of them are a reason the Giants couldn’t have gotten him for a similar price.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants not knowing Scutaro was available isn’t a good enough reason?

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by Solidarity on Jan 23, 2012 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

If Ben Cherington is any good at his job

I don’t think that was a factor.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

We don’t know that they didn’t know, so, either point is either valid or invalid. Take your pick.

by Every6thDay on Jan 23, 2012 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d just like to reiterate that there isn’t some bulletin board where players are posted with tags and phone numbers at the bottom. The Scutaro news came out of nowhere, so it was probably a recent development, so it seems unlikely that the Red Sox were actively shopping him until recently if at all.

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by Solidarity on Jan 23, 2012 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s so much we don’t know, right? It came out of nowhere for us, but maybe not people who know more than we do… behind the scenes.

by Every6thDay on Jan 23, 2012 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm no businessman.

But it seems like a pretty basic principle that if you want to maximize your return, you get as many people bidding on your asset as possible. I can’t believe Cherington would just trade Scutaro to the first person to offer a bad pitcher and some salary relief. Scutaro was a 2.7 WAR player last year. Thats worth a lot.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what it seems like. They had to free up money for Ross and, if the rumors are true, Oswalt.

by Every6thDay on Jan 23, 2012 11:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

The trade was almost certainly about salary relief.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe they had interest in Mortensen for some reason (hell if I know why.)

My point remains the same that there are so many unknowns, including the nearly two months between the Affelt/Lopez signings and the Scutaro trade, that making this 1:1 analogy loses all sense of context.

There’s also the fact that the Giants would have to take on that $6M in payroll.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

It certainly suggests that the Giants did not turn over every rock looking for a shortstop this off-season. Coupled with the “pitching is our gold standard” comment(s), this seems 100% accurate.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

But they said that straight up. Why are people still amazed by it? Oh, right, Crawford.

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by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s kind of amazing that a team wanting to contend wouldn’t find anyone better.

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by El Person on Jan 24, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I understand your argument, and it makes sense. It’s just frustrating seeing all these SSs moving around the MLB for such little cost. If not Scutaro, we could have had Lowrie. If not Lowrie, we could have had Aviles last year. Or Hardy, or Bartlett.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Lowrie probably would’ve cost Romo, and probably another arm just because of 5 years of control the Red Sox got with Melancon. All the players you mention and the deals that netted them certainly seem(ed) within the realm of possibility for the Giants, but I think we should all just agree that improving shortstop wasn’t a priority for a team or if it was they weren’t very creative in figuring out how to do so. We might assume that because we don’t know that they didn’t try that they must have, but I’m just going to judge them by the results.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Hembree could have gotten Lowrie. He’s projected better than Melancon. The only problem being that he’s probably still about a year away, and the Red Sox likely wanted a major league ready player. But for an extra year of control, and likely a better player, I think they might have taken it.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 12:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe,

but Melancon has been pretty remarkable in his brief time up. He’s not a prospect at this point so there’s more certainty.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

He's got about 2 seasons under his belt.

I think “remarkable” might be a little bit of an overstatement for a 3.21 ERA and a 3.47 FIP. It’s solid though. And the certainty is definitely a valid point. You could make an argument like this for just about every shortstop that was moved, but the Giants should have figured out a way to get one of them.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 12:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

Yeah, for whatever reason, the Giants seem relatively unwilling to give up minor leaguers at this point.

Believe me, I wish we had a better option than Crawford too, but at this point they have developed a very predictable approach. Hard cap on Opening Day that will be adjusted ad hoc as that season goes on, an emphasis on role players and increasingly an eye towards younger players where they can help it (possibly an issue with Scutaro, though they did reportedly go after Gonzalez), and protect our minor leaguers when we can help it.

I would have been as thrilled as anybody with a Runzler for Scutaro deal as anyone, but it didn’t happen. I don’t know why it didn’t happen, but given the evidence we have to go on, we have a few reasonable theories to look at.

A) The Giants don’t like Scutaro for whatever reason, be it age, medicals, or scouting of some kind.
B) The Giants really like Runzler (or whichever trade chip) for whatever reason.
C) The Red Sox didn’t like what the Giants had to offer for whatever reason.
D) The Giants never got a chance to elbow in on the bidding.
E) The Giants were unwilling to take on the salary.
F) All the other GMs hate dealing with Sabean, so they skipped him in the rolodex.

Of those, I’d consider B, C, and E the three most likely explanations, probably in tandem to some degree.

What doesn’t seem likely to me is this scenario where Sabean in November staring at a whiteboard with Lopez and Runzler on one side, and Scutaro on the other side, and him saying, “Yeah… Gotta go with the LOOGY here.”

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Not in that way. More like:

“Guys, first thing’s first: lock up our pitching. That’s our strength. We’ll figure out the rest after that.”

And, like you said, the new CBA was still an unknown. The Red Sox are suddenly spendthrift because of the luxury tax modifications. Scutaro probably wasn’t even available at that point. I think the annoyance with the Affeldt/Lopez deals was how they almost immediately took away all the Giants’ financial flexibility before the market even developed.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 12:25 AM PST up reply actions  

But at the end of the day, the Giants needed to improve the shortstop position and did not.

Unlike past seasons, I’ve yet to hear Sabean or the managing general partner du jour say that thing about payroll flexibility mid-season. I am not getting on you, Solidarity, for assuming this, because it really has been customary for the organization to do this, but as I recall, we usually hear a comment confirming this. We still might, as Spring Training has yet to begin, but this off-season certainly feels different in terms of financial flexibility.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 12:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Before the 2010 season, there was talk about the Giants having a hard cap at $90M, but… well, we all know what happened in 2010. Though I will concede that those rumors were much more isolated than what the Giants have been saying during this offseason.

I do know, however, that they are on the record as saying that they like to have room to maneuver during the season so they can fill in as needed.

I also think that they really do think Crawford will be passable at SS this season, if sub-optimal. I just Hope Like Hell™ that they’re right.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

Considering the Giants are an organization that would rather undergo a collective root canal than hand a young position player a job without any competition or back up plan, the fact that they are willing to go into the season with Crawford at short says all I need to know about whether he’s ready. For all the talk of pinching pennies, there’s no way this team would leave that big of a hole at short if they weren’t confident that Crawford could fill it. Besides, does anyone really want to see yet another grizzled, 90 year old vet there.

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by crazedcrustacean on Jan 24, 2012 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the Crawford/Tejada disaster also factored.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 1:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I do know, however, that they are on the record as saying that they like to have room to maneuver during the season so they can fill in as needed.

The funny part is that they’re pretty good at guaranteeing there will be a hole (or a couple) that needs filling.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Indeed.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s interesting that they said the payroll would come out to $130M, and after all the arb stuff, pending an agreement with Lincecum, they’re going to come out exactly where they said they would be. To me, that suggests a great amount of prior planning, and that they had very good estimates of what people were going to make (though I will acknowledge they could control their destiny somewhat in that respect).

As to the timing of the LOOGY deals? I still think it comes down to a matter of scarcity, and not liking the cheap alternatives in Runzler and Verdugo. By signing them early, they faced no competition from outside bids, which helped them maintain that hard $130M cap.

The one thing I don’t get it is where Alex Gonzalez fits in, other than the possibility that the money that would have gone to him was instead used to retain Mota, Whiteside, and Fontenot, given than the Pagan trade was effective a financial wash when you factor in Ramirez along with Torres.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

By signing them early, they faced no competition from outside bids

I can’t really say for sure that they got good deals on them though. Of all the relievers signed so far this offseason, Jeremy Affeldt is making more money this year than any other non-closer. Lopez is 3rd, only .25 million behind Darren Oliver. I will concede that that it is was/is a pretty weak market. It’s possible that Affeldt would have gotten much more on the open market. It was probably smart to sign one of them early, but they should have let the other one walk. It certainly is nice to have two good lefties in the pen, but I don’t think it is nearly as important as replacing Crawford would be.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

I don’t know how much faith you have in ZiPs, but it projects Lopez to be below-average, with Runzler 2 ERA+ points worse than him. I’m not sure what the dollars-to-ERA+ points conversion factor is, but I don’t think it’s anywhere close to the difference in their salaries.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 12:54 AM PST up reply actions  

3.70 seems like a pretty negative projection on Lopez. Obviously his nightmare season in Boston counts, but I think he’s a bit better than ZiPS believes, especially if he’s being used as a LOOGY (something that having Affeldt definitely makes more likely).

I don’t think the Giants trust Runzler at this juncture, and I can’t blame them. I don’t mind him as the 11th man, but he looked fucking lost out there last season.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

His career ERA is 3.96, but I agree that the last few years should be weighted a little more heavily. For some reason, most people seem to disagree though. Bill James projects 3.68 and RotoChamp predicts 3.75. I would guess it has a lot to do with his age.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 1:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Age is the probably the main factor, yes, though it’s an easier trick to stay effective at 34 as a reliever than it is most other places. I mean hell, look at Mota and Rhodes and Oliver.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 1:09 AM PST up reply actions  

True enough. We’ve gotten pretty far off the main point though, which is that I would be surprised if (the value of Lopez – that of Runzler) > (the value of Lowrie/Scutaro/etc – that of Crawford)

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

There’s also value in giving Crawford a year of PAs in Fresno.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 1:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I would have been fine with keeping only one as well. I’m just trying (hopelessly) to divine what their motivations were. I suspect that they knew that they were overpaying for Affeldt, but the extra cash pretty much bought them cost certainty, and what they regard as an alternative option for closer if Romo and Wilson should get injured again.

We can’t know obviously, but my suspicion is that if they don’t both go on the DL in August, then Affeldt becomes a free agent, Runzler is in the pen, Crawford is in Fresno and they sign a shortstop of some description. Perhaps Carroll.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I know you're not advocating this
Affeldt, but the extra cash pretty much bought them cost certainty, and what they regard as an alternative option for closer if Romo and Wilson should get injured again.

but spending $5 million on a 3rd string closer is insanity when you have a team with such obvious, gaping offensive needs.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 12:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Spoken like a man not taking medication for Herges nightmare.

Neither am I, though. I think Sabean’s the only one.

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I can't take Herges medications.

Mixing it with my Aaron Fultz nightmare medications can result in side-effects like depression, mad cow disease, and instant painful death.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 1:03 AM PST up reply actions  

It's an emotional move

Something that the Giants could stand to succumb to less often, in my estimation.

Casilla is half the price of Affeldt, though you never know if or when he’ll go all Denny Bautista on us.

They overvalue the bullpen, and are trying to avoid volatility (hence overpaying for the vets instead of throwing Runzler and Verdugo in there). But either way, the money is spent now, and the FO’s overreaction to last season has come and gone.

I just hope we’re all eating crow in four months.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 1:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Can you avoid volatility in the bullpen, though?

Lopez and Affeldt both have had pretty poor years in the very recent past… I don’t understand how you’re avoiding volatility when you just signed two guys who have been pretty volatile in the past.

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by jponry on Jan 24, 2012 6:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it possible they still see Runzler as 6th starter?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s definitely E.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 12:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. I just can’t see Cherington not calling Sabean and saying, “Hey, Scutaro might be moved for Mortensen. If you give us [crappy pitcher X, where X is better than Mortensen], we’ll give him to you instead.”

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

No. That would be an inexcusable lack of due dilligence.

At the end of the day, they should have kicked the tires.

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by Bhaakon on Jan 24, 2012 12:56 AM PST up reply actions  

This

It’s their job to know what’s available.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if they’ll put him in center.

by wcw on Jan 23, 2012 11:01 PM PST reply actions  

Ah, memories

Didn’t we call him a bald little troll?

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:01 PM PST reply actions  

farewell, sweet prince

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by jponry on Jan 23, 2012 11:01 PM PST reply actions  

BOSS

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:01 PM PST reply actions  

Not in my USofA!

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 23, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

rec

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy crap. I hadn’t seen this one.

by non sequitur on Jan 23, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

I’m not sure I have either before today. I just went into the McImage Directory and looked for Ross images.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it taken from SNL? Somehow I think the one in front is Samberg.

by non sequitur on Jan 23, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It is. From the Like a Boss song.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahhhhh. Hence the Codyification of the GIF.

by non sequitur on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Does he do anything memorable?

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

used to be a met, so i'd say not memorable but lolable?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Get your fake angel wings all prepared!

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Jack reminds me of Zito.

by wcw on Jan 23, 2012 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The food is just as good as Zito’s pitching.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Zito checks out Pagan’s butt too?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I really hope people don’t need to bust out this gif too much this season

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 23, 2012 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't stop watching

That Padre penis guy if funny, whoever that is. Is that Rowand behind Burrel or just some dude?

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 24, 2012 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Hop, Hop

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by LincecumFTK on Jan 23, 2012 11:06 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I guess Giants fans will hate this now.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

You assume too much.

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by Natto on Jan 23, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

If he faces the Giants, the same fans will hate it when he homers and hops.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

He plays in the American League.

also no

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Could still happen in late October (or if he’s traded to a team the Giants will face). I’m not saying everyone will hate it but there will be enough to notice.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Could still happen in late October

Please, oh please.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 23, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I was waiting for this.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I may lean toward the Giants in this. 2 Red Sox titles vs. 1 Giants in my life.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It'd be a good problem to have, I suppose.

I was at the game in Fenway for Dave Roberts’s first appearance there since 2004. Four- or five-minute standing ovation when he led off the game. Chilling.

Barry got the shit booed out of him and crushed a deep foul, and the Giants got destroyed.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 23, 2012 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It was difficult until 2004, though. I saw both teams blow double digit leads in July. Both teams blow WS clinching games in heartbreaking ways.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

never

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Even if he kills us with it.

It will always bring back memories of the 2010 LCS, which makes it great forever.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless he’s on the Dodgers, I will not be hating on Cody Ross. Ever.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 7:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It kind cuts out before the hop, hop though.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I dont know why it was working fine on Photobucket

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by LincecumFTK on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Suck it, De La Rosa.

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

:)

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by 49er16 on Jan 24, 2012 7:17 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 23, 2012 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Every picture like this, I also look for Zito and “Tony Plush”

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I was looking for Zito too

I’m going to be disappointed if he isn’t in the crowd somewhere.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s behind those binoculars in the second deck.

by wcw on Jan 23, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

speckops beat you!

speckops beat us all!

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Except my fictitious significant other!

/gets arrested for domestic violence anyways

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I hit me first though!

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember on the replay seeing the receiver clearly pulling on the defenders face mask.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 23, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

lol DENORFIA!

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG ZITO AS THE REF

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

GODAMNIT HE IS IN THERE I KNEW IT. I can never find him.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s like fucking Where’s Waldo?

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that the adult version of the books?

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

“Yeah, he can’t find the important spot either.”

-Wanda

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Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 23, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

But less messy.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 7:45 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s like Where’s Waldo? Except I’m terrible at those.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I was looking in the stands

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I’m like 10,000 years behind in handegg — is the touchdown-making guy facemasking the defender?

by non sequitur on Jan 23, 2012 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Facemacking is something I’m trying to work into my day to day life.

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 23, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t laugh that hard until I noticed Denorfia in the background. Well done, sir.

by boonitez on Jan 24, 2012 2:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I had a negative reaction to the Braves.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

lulz

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by 49er16 on Jan 24, 2012 7:16 AM PST up reply actions  

The Giants only got rid of him because Matt Cain hated him. I expect Cain’s extension to be finalized any minute now.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:08 PM PST reply actions  

Hop, Hop Part II

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by LincecumFTK on Jan 23, 2012 11:10 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

I’m totally okay with him no longer on the team but I’m going to miss him being on it. If that makes any sense

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 23, 2012 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It does.

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. I sort of wish he could just hang around the dugout, smiling and pinch-hitting against Roy Halladay.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS

Can we have a time share on him?

Only pull him out when facing the Phillies?

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever happens in 2012, it’ll definitely be less-Misfit-y for sure

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 23, 2012 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Red Sox do not face the Phillies in 2012. Too bad.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That was the only run they scored that month, if I recall correctly.

by Every6thDay on Jan 23, 2012 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

:)

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by 49er16 on Jan 24, 2012 7:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Watch Out

This is the thread where Natto steps UP and stomps DOWN on the oppressive nature of the various forces in his life.

Grant will be forced to give him a raise!

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 23, 2012 11:11 PM PST reply actions  

Man

I really really hate when Facebook friends I don’t know that well talk about baseball and say stupid stuff. I have to punch myself in the face to keep from correcting them in-depth and looking like an asshole.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:12 PM PST reply actions  

I block people like that from showing up on my news feed.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I block lawyers on my news feed

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 23, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUGH HOLD ME BACK
Cody Ross traded to the Red Sox? i’m just gonna go cry myself to sleep now.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

fire away

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

She’s super nice, and she’s actually one of the more dedicated fans I know. She goes to more games than I do. I’ll give her a pass this time.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Correct nicely, then.

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think there's a way you could do that without sounding like a jerk.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Dear ____, while I hate to come off as one of those people that picks nits & causes any type of irritation on your sweet soul, it behooves me to point out that Cody Ross left the Giants as a free agent. I apologize for the correction and I hope I can make it up to you when we next meet.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 7:39 AM PST up reply actions  

LIKE WALDO

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Dear ______,
Would you like to come over and cry yourself to sleep in my bed? I miss Cody too.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

61 comments in 19 minutes

what

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:17 PM PST reply actions  

yeah seems pretty slow

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by jponry on Jan 23, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re busy playing Where’s Waldo.

by wcw on Jan 23, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Fucking Where’s Waldo

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 7:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Only by like a dozen commentors though

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey I know you. I insulted you a few comments up. hahah

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 23, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Hi! ::waves::

Not really me specifically, just lawyers in general.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

OBJECTION

HEARSAY

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

HERESY

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

0.05351 Hz

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

lawls.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

More things should be measured in Hertz.

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Corporate shill.

by wcw on Jan 23, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The number of times Aldon Smith hits you per game is measured in Hertz.

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by speckops on Jan 23, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Aldon Smith Facts

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by El Person on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS NEEDS TO BE A MEME

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by LincecumFTK on Jan 23, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Or Kardashes.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

OH WHAT THE HELL

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

i did my job

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS!?!?!

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

TWABS

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't decide if I should have

1 or 2 bowls of frosted mini wheats, leftover cake and ice cream, or cupcakes. Or some combination of all those.

by Every6thDay on Jan 23, 2012 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Not enough love for Ross

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by 49er16 on Jan 24, 2012 7:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Just to make sure Ross isn’t even a Giant, right?

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 23, 2012 11:24 PM PST reply actions  

Creepy targeted ad that just appeared on the front page when I reloaded.
Newgy ROBO-PONG
NOW YOU CAN PLAY PING-PONG™ BY YOURSELF WHENEVER YOU WANT.
Great Fun! Easy to use!
Millions are playing Ping-Pong™… Now you can too!

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 23, 2012 11:26 PM PST reply actions  

Wait Ping Pong is trademarked?

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Ping-Pong® is a federally registered trademark first developed by Parker Brothers, Inc. and now owned by Escalade Sports. The registered trademark Ping-Pong® indicates a brand of equipment used to play the sport of table tennis.

Ping-Pong® is the brand and table tennis is the sport.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t even want to play anymore. If it’s going to be all corporate and everything….

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 23, 2012 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. wtf?

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Ping-Pong

Kleenex
Xerox
Band-Aid

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

TicketSquid®

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait, styrofoam? Really?

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d never thought about it, but it makes sense.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

The product is polystyrene.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I just figured with your science background you were trying to get me to fall into a chasm.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope.

Familiar with polystyrene, but I’ve never really done a whole lot of polymer science. Just had never considered it before.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

While we’re on the subject of polystyrene, do you know there is not one single place in SF where you can recycle the demon product—even for a fee?!

GreenCitizen (Howard near 2nd) stopped over a year ago. What do people do—put this shit in a land fill?

/hippie

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Those others I knew about. I just didn’t know about ping-pong.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Sheetrock, Realtor, Dumpster, TelePrompTer …

by Evan on Jan 24, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy shit.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I would have never guessed dumpster. I guess that makes sense though.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

The word “dumpster”, first used commercially in 1936,1 came from the Dempster-Dumpster system of mechanically loading the contents of standardized containers onto garbage trucks, which was patented by Dempster Brothers in 1937.23 The containers were called Dumpsters, a portmanteau of the company’s name with the word dump. However, it took the Dempster Dumpmaster, the first successful front-loading garbage truck (which used this system), to popularize the word.

The word dumpster has had at least three trademarks associated with it by Dempster Brothers,456 but today it is often used as a genericized trademark.

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by nvsfg on Jan 24, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Crapper

Thomas Crapper (baptised 28 September 1836; died 27 January 1910) was a plumber who founded Thomas Crapper & Co in London. Contrary to widespread misconceptions, Crapper did not invent the flush toilet. He did, however, do much to increase the popularity of the toilet, and developed some important related inventions, such as the ballcock. He was noted for the quality of his products and received several royal warrants.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, that’s who I have to thank for inventing the ballcock.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

"Table Tennis."

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by Solidarity on Jan 23, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Big Brother is watching you

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d probably buy a ping-pong robot if I had lots of money, time and room.

by wcw on Jan 23, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never played Ping Pong by myself. I swear to God.

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 23, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

He just signed the camera.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 23, 2012 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

He's a godlike being.

I love him more than Romo. More than Timmy or Madbum. Or even Buster, maybe.

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by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I cannot fucking wait for baseball season. Especially now since I have friends in LA and San Diego. I’m going to try and catch a game at the Ravine and Petco. I’ve been to Petco before, but it’s beautiful.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:36 PM PST reply actions  

Dodger Stadium seems like a shithole (though I’ve never been there).

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I still want to catch a game there.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s an experience for sure.

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by Natto on Jan 23, 2012 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll bring my nunchucks.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Those are illegal in CA

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

How can nunchucks be illegal

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

how many nuns could a nunchuck chuck if a nunchuck could chuck nuns

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

It would chuck all the nuns that a nunchuck could, if a nunchuck could chuck nuns

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Anything that is designed for the purpose of hurting people is illegal to carry around in CA. That’s why you can’t have a switchblade, that’s why if you’re not a cop, you can’t carry a billy club/baton/night stick.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

lol guns

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Thems for hurting aminals.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Those are designed for hunting obviously. Especially the easily concealable ones and the automatic ones.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

They aren’t. As long as they stay inside the dojang anyway.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I would imagine avoid the bleachers.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Hell no.

I’m sitting right in the middle of the bleachers.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

you sir, have guts

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

And they will be spilled all over the ground.

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by Natto on Jan 23, 2012 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

They gotta make Dodger Dogs somehow. Pig parts aren’t cheap.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 23, 2012 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

i wont be able to sleep tonight

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

When I was down there in May last year, I caught a game at Dodger Stadium (the game that Nate saved with a diving catch to end it) and sat in the bleachers with my Giants shirt on and had no problems at all.

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by crazedcrustacean on Jan 24, 2012 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

bleachers are alcohol free, so it’s a mixed bag. less drunk assholes, including yourself.

by Mrbasepaul on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I went there in the late 70’s and it seemed like a nice place to take in a game. Of course, I was comparing it to the ’Stick.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

They don't call it "Chavez Latrine" for nothing

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by Goofus on Jan 24, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

26 more days!!!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Baseball season is April 4th

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually March something if you include the A’s vs. M’s in Japan.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

um... probably wont watch, but true

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I think those will be on like 4 or 5 AM our time.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

First game is on at 3:10 AM and second is on at 2:10 AM.

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by SFGuy on Jan 23, 2012 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

"CAN'T WAIT!"

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

pitchers/catchers though

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 23, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Cody Ran...

oh Cody of note

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by SFGuy on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I knew a dog named Cody

He bit me.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

OT

NFL teams sure have high turnover rates. Only 15 Giants and 7 Patriots are left from that Super Bowl 4 years ago.

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by SFGuy on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 AM PST reply actions  

I read somewhere that for most positions the average career was like 2.5 years

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe this is the case with jobs with major damage to the body, like feature running backs. Running backs have to get paid when they are young because they just don’t age well at all. Gore was only effective because he had chances to rest with Hunter being a total depth beast.

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by Giant Voodoo on Jan 24, 2012 12:35 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s increasingly becoming a two back league, probably for this reason to some degree.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:45 AM PST up reply actions  

completely

finding feature backs is pretty uncommon now. Teams are drafting small quick backs like Charles, McCluster, Hunter. They just can’t take the abuse despite being great athletes. Teams are trying to maximize their investments by limiting touches. Who can blame them? RB’s are expensive flashes in a pan.

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by Giant Voodoo on Jan 24, 2012 12:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Or even three (maybe 2 1/2)

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Jan 24, 2012 1:19 AM PST up reply actions  

For Matt Cain's sake,

I hope the Red Sox don’t re-sign Cody next year so he doesn’t have to face him 18/19 times.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 AM PST reply actions  

Hammer time

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by SFGuy on Jan 24, 2012 12:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Green'd

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by danieljgrant on Jan 24, 2012 6:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Cody will remain one of my favorite Giants. I will miss him!

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m a boss like Cody Ross
it’s going out the fence…

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Ssory Doc

I’ll always love him for that.

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Jan 24, 2012 1:20 AM PST reply actions  

And I know this is crazy, but I’d rather have Ross than both Affeldt/Lopez (if we’re still assuming we’re working with the strict budget).

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Jan 24, 2012 1:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing that's a sentimental thing.

But that wouldn’t even be necessary. He’s making less than either of them.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 1:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Whoa

This Twitter account is awesome.

This is almost certainly a McCoven. ’fess up.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 1:33 AM PST reply actions  

It's just one big FJM

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 2:08 AM PST up reply actions  

So, not as funny as it thinks it is?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 7:57 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Haha

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 7:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I'm quite funny

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by fjm on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Ooo Berdych!

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by Unitard on Jan 24, 2012 1:42 AM PST reply actions  

I’m rooting for Nadal (I love watching Roger and Nadal play each other) but it isn’t looking good for him

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 1:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I have Ross listed as one of my favorite athletes on Facebook. I have no interest in removing him from that list. But fuck, really? The Red Sox? Ugh.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 3:15 AM PST reply actions  

Fuck yeah

FInished the NY Times crossword puzzle!

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 AM PST reply actions  

Ok. I cheated on a few. There’s something to be said for closure, though.

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by GrahamCrakalaka on Jan 24, 2012 4:21 AM PST up reply actions  

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I have a catching problem this year in my keeper league. I am holding both Posey and Avila at no cost. No off season trades. I have to drop one or the other by mid March when we declare keepers. I am keeping Posey, but dang it hurts to let Avila go.

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Depending on your other players, why not keep both and move one?

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I'm not changing my sing

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by 49er16 on Jan 24, 2012 7:14 AM PST reply actions  

Interesting
Andrew Feldman: “The things he hasn’t tested are very position specific” – Stephania on Posey’s injury

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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!

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by Alex_Lewis on Jan 24, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Fenway needs to install bat throwing deflector shields

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 7:25 AM PST reply actions  

IKR

The stands are scarily close to the field there, just like AT&T

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by Goofus on Jan 24, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Cody was a good Giant

Fun to watch. I am super glad he did not land in NL West. I hope the Sox is everything he needs to break out a year and get a good deal.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 24, 2012 7:29 AM PST reply actions  

???

From MLBTR’s summary of a recent Rosenthal column:

The Red Sox seem to have interest in acquiring an everyday shortstop and the Reds, Giants and Rays are looking for veteran shortstop help, Rosenthal writes.

If the Red Sox are interested in acquiring an everyday shortstop, why did they trade Scutaro?

If the Giants are looking for veteran shortstop help, why didn’t they trade for Scutaro?

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 7:48 AM PST reply actions  

Perhaps neither team thinks that Scutaro is a very good SS anymore.

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

UZR looks good to me

But he only played 110 games last year. I would guess injury risk?

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 24, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Because they are making shit up.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't do it Cincy

Dusty will never play Zack Cozart if you sign a veteran

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I've been holding this position ever since the trade happened

28 other teams passed on trading more than Mortensen for Scutaro.

The Boston Red Sox traded him for nothing just to dump his salary. They picked up his option hoping a trade market would exist for him. 28 other GMs don’t think he is worth his salary.

The bottom line is could the Giants have used him? Yes of course. But perhaps LOLOLD is one of the reason why he isn’t nearly as much of an upgrade as his 2010 numbers would indicate.

I’m disappointed the Giants didn’t get in, but I’m not going to go out of my way to question the FO knowing ultimately every team passed on the chance of having him play SS for them. (Rockies are using him at 2B) and I certainly ain’t gonna kill myself over it.

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Yes, thank you, I was trying to argue this all day yesterday and not saying this well.

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by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Another way to think about this is

The Boston Red Sox thought so little of Scutaro’s 2011 potential, that they would rather have Clayton fucking Mortensen instead.

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Or, a more accurate way of saying this,

they would rather improve their starting rotation.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

They could do that while trading Scutaro for a better prospect

But they couldn’t find a deal better than Mortensen. So they took that. Because they picked up his option. Hey, Free Clayton Mortensen!

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought they were going to use the salary savings to get Oswalt

But they just gave part of that money to Cody. So now I have no fucking clue what they are up to.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, if they needed 11 (7.5 for Oswalt + 3.5 for Ross) but only had 5 then this deal makes sense. But, yeah, head-scratcher given the Ross deal and the rumored need.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

And then there's Lowrie.

I know the Giants would’ve been hard-pressed to match Melancon in terms of a prospect, but, yeah, the Red Sox had a surplus of average middle infielders, a desperate are of need for the Giants. I know that just because we didn’t hear about the Giants’ involvement doesn’t mean they were never involved, but I can’t help but think that they were not. Additionally, it’d be nice if someone close to the Giants who gets paid to ask questions asks this very question.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

“Asked and answered.” /banned

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by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks! That's good enough for me.

I think I forgot about that conversation (it was yesterday, right?) because I got hung up on Solidarity’s (seeming) stance that unless it comes from the mouth of someone in the FO we should not assume anything.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

This

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel like this:

28 other teams passed on trading more than Mortensen for Scutaro.

is making a big of an assumption regarding market efficiency in the majors.

Furthermore, it’s not like every team passed on him. Some of them already have competent shortstops.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

This is specious.

28 other teams did not pass on Scutaro, because 28 teams did not need Scutaro. The Giants desperately needed Scutaro, and chose not to acquire him.

And Marco Scutaro is not some sort of foreign player whose future need be viewed suspiciously. He has been playing in the major leagues for 10 years. You can go look at his stats. They exist. Scutaro missed some time with injury at the beginning of last year, but he had 250+ PAs after the all star break while hitting .329/.382/.467.

Your appeal to authority on this issue makes no sense at all. Scutaro was obviously available for nothing but salary, would have represented a significant upgrade for the Giants, and is a quality player and has been one for years.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course everything is available for salary

But 130M is the set payroll. And the front office obviously feel 6M for Scutaro is not as good as 4.5M for Javier Lopez.

You have a problem with that. I know. I MIGHT have a problem with that, but I’m not as convinced as you are about Scotaro’s 2011 potential because of age. So at the end of the day, I choose to believe that teams have scouting reports that says don’t take Scutaro at 6M

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

No, not everything is available for salary.

For instance, every player under contract with every other team is not available for salary.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

you know what I mean

stop nitpicking just to be a dick.

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

and for the record, I can respect set payroll

Would I like my company to spend more on R&D? YES! GIVE ME MORE MLE! MORE MONEY FOR PROJECTS.

But shareholders want profit. And that is a fact of life. You, of all people, should respect that.

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

You, of all people, should respect that.

You tell you!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

No ewe!

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Also
And the front office obviously feel 6M for Scutaro is not as good as 4.5M for Javier Lopez.

Yes, this is obvious.

And yes, this is idiotic.

Why not call it that?

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, I don’t know that it is obvious, given that they decided to spend the 4.5 M on Lopez before they knew that Scutaro would be available for 6 M.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

And...

The new CBA wasn’t in place when the Giants re-signed Lopez and I think the new luxury tax rules are what’s forcing Boston’s decision-making.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Why the CBA wasn’t worked out such that it would be put into affect at the beginning of an offseason is entirely beyond me.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was weird.

Also, I’d like to amend my comment. “I think” makes it sound like I’m trying to drop some knowledge on everybody. It’s pretty damned obvious that the new luxury tax rules are influencing the Red Sox’s decision-making right now.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I think a couple things are fairly obvious

1) Sabean knew that the payroll was fixed at 130 million going into the offseason.

2) Sabean, knowing that the payroll was fixed, committed 9.5 million in 2012 salary to Lopez and Affeldt.

3) Sabean, therefore, knew that that 9.5 million dollars would be unavailable to upgrade the offense.

I do not think it is a stretch to say that Sabean prioritized left handed relievers over offensive upgrades.

Scutaro in particular? No, as you point out, he wasn’t available until later.

But it’s pretty clear what Sabean knew and when he knew it.

And knowing that, we see that he deliberately chose to commit most of his available money to left handed relievers instead of offensive help.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I agree with you. The allocation of funds has been pretty dumb if Sabean actually knew that there was a hard cap. And given everything I’ve seen this season, he absolutely knew there was a hard cap.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I think that’s about right but I also think they decided to go with their strength, pitching— at the expense of their offense and didn’t want to possibly weaken their best attribute.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 24, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s true, but that’s like building up your leg strength by working on your calves. Is it important? Yeah. Is it as important as your hamstring and your quads? Probably not.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it was a mix of RDF and protecting the Gold Standard Pitching ™.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Also (sorry if it's been mentioned).
All signs point to a two-year deal in the $41 million to $42 million range for Giants right-hander Tim Lincecum, but his arbitration case remains a source of fascination around the game.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Washington-Nationals-lead-Prince-Fielder-chase-Philadelphia-Phillies-Atlanta-Braves-New-York-Mets-face-questions-012312

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

All things considered (Hi, Letter!),

I’m ok with this.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Gerardo Concepcion worked out in front of Rangers executives Monday in the Dominican Republic.

Rangers president Nolan Ryan was with the group. Concepcion, an 18-year-old Cuban left-hander, is drawing interest from most of baseball’s biggest spenders, including the Yankees, Phillies, Cubs, White Sox, Royals, Marlins, Giants, Blue Jays, and Red Sox. He was granted major league free agency last week.

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

I was hoping he was a shortstop. (Sorry Brando.)

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Always "interested"

Just like those Japanese players we signed this off-season

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

A lefty!

He has to be worth, what, 5 million dollars or so?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I totally agree.

“Oh, is it too hot in here? Why don’t you take off your shirt, Gerardo.” Nolan Ryan’s continually using a handkerchief to wipe down his now sweaty forehead.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Even weirder in football

Scouts look at a guy in his briefs for a “nice bubble” (no, no what you’re thinking; prominent buttocks)

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by Goofus on Jan 24, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretty underwhelmed by the Oscar nominees this year...

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 8:13 AM PST reply actions  

Drive was the film that all of my other film nerd friends were telling me was the best of the year if not ever.

I thought it was the most emotionally vacuous, self-important, empty film… ever. There were some pretty/creative shots in there though.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

This

Can we get some dialogue? Just a little bit please.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

It's Transformers for hipsters.

Really pretty to look at but no real depth.

Genre films do NOT need to be “elevated.” They just need to be done properly. Someone tell me how Die Hard could’ve been improved by a few gimmick camera shots (to be fair sometimes those gimmicks change cinema) and a faux new wave revival song.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I loved drive. I thought it was one of the better movies I saw this year.

by S. Pickford #25 on Jan 24, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Why?

What made it special other than it was a mediocre crime movie, with decent acting and film student style with a budget?

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Disclaimer: not an expert.

I’m not a film student and I definitely wouldn’t consider myself an expert, but I really enjoyed the film. First off, I thought the soundtrack was great. Second, even though the lack of dialogue early on was a little weird, as the movie went on I started to appreciate the way the emptiness made the movie feel. I think the contrast between drive and most movies I see was, in a way, refreshing for me. The big thing for me was the mood the whole movie had. I was completely drawn in. My experience might not be typical, but I think that’s why I enjoyed it so much.

by S. Pickford #25 on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

This is not a comment on your opinion. It’s clearly subjective. But nowhere in there do you story or character development. Which are the things that are most important to me. What you described sounds like a really long, cool music video.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I can’t really argue with you on this, but I will agree that in a way it was a really long cool music video. I also like long cool music videos.

by S. Pickford #25 on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked it as well, and I agree that that as the movie went on I appreciated the emptiness. It was like his driving – what made him such a good driver was as much what he didn’t do as what he did, and I felt his character was developed as much by what he didn’t say as what he said.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, to me it was an entirely empty slate that others have been projecting into

I saw no development whatsoever. There was a defined character, but he just went through the motions of the movie, the vehicle to express the director’s “talents”

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Most years are going to look pretty weak now that they’re nominating 9 films for Best Picture. The Oscars are suddenly like the NBA playoffs. If you limited it to the top 4 it wouldn’t look so bad. I haven’t seen Tree of Life, but War Horse, The Help, Midnight in Paris and Moneyball have no business being nominated.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

EVERYBODY GETS A TROPHY!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Everybody gets to say “nominated!”

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Which makes sense

if being nominated boosts ticket sales for the movie, why not nominate more and see if that generates even more revenue.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Because people will probably adjust at some point to a nomination meaning less?

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

An industry choosing short-term profits despite long-term harm

in a desperate attempt to keep from being outdated?

Noooooo.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

At some point

Going to the movies is going to become a thing of the past, right? I mean, I know nothing about that industry at all but doesn’t the huge leaps in entertainment delivery technology make it kind of like newspapers now?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate going to the movies now because people have no social grace. Texting, talking, shouting during movies, being generally assholes. The only films I see in a movie theatre are the loud, blockbustery things. Otherwise, I’d rather see it at home on my HD 42" screen and I can pause it if there’s some distraction or interruption. Plus, microwave popcorn is cheap.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

this is essentially it.

I go to movies late on weeknights for this reason.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Early weekend mornings are the best. First show, no crowd.

I took my nephew to see War Horse to the late show and we were the first ones in the theater. A young couple walks in and sits in the seats right behind us. WTF?

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

You have to expect some type of noise pollution for kids flix.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I’M MISSING IMPORTANT PLOT POINTS!!

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

No, that robot is bad. You can tell because he blew shit up.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I went to the Muppets at 10pm on a Tuesday with my ex and my Dutch friend

There were about a dozen other adults there, all respectful and enjoying the nostalgia.

Emmeke, my dutch friend, was so surprised because she thought the reputation for Americans in movie theaters was terrible. I told her we could go to the Daly City 20 if she wanted to see that.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah we went for an early evening showing of that. A lot of kids and parents, but well behaved kids. It was the best movie house experience we’ve had in a long time.

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by Merope on Jan 24, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I was once in the Hamptons with my long-distance gf.

We’d gotten all sorts of hot and bothered and, stuck with time to kill in downtown East Hampton, figured “no one will be going to see Ice Age at 10pm! We’ll have the place to ourselves!”

Sure enough, we did.

Until four teenage boys sat came in right as the previews ended and chose the seats directly in front of us.

And I had to pay attention to the goddamn movie.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Not too long ago I had to tell two tween/teenage girls to shut up. They were tickling each other or something during the movie.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

In LA the movie prices are outrageous, but if you pay an even more outrageous price you can sit in a clean theater with (mostly) polite filmgoers (who are douchebags and assholes and pretentious fucks as soon as the lights go up — I don’t think I’m better than any of these people, mind you) and enjoy the experience as intended. Do they have Arclight-type theaters in the Bay Area?

I know that in my hometown — Fairfield — I’d rather get hit by a bus and be forced to watch Kyle Williams fumble repeatedly in my coma than see a movie in that god-forsaken city.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the Kabuki (in SF) is that style of upscale theatre, but I never go anywhere other than the Roxie.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I go to the Kabuki because they have 21 and over theaters that you can bring your adult beverages into.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t know that. I haven’t been to the Kabuki in a while. It’s out of the way and there’s no place to park.

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I can almost always find something on the street within a short walk, but I may have a wider radius of acceptability than most.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, you can buy reserved seats on the internet beforehand.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

The Arclight is one of the 3 things I miss about living in LA. Especially the 21 and over screen with the full bar.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

We have a theater like that (with couches instead of seats too) in Berkeley. I love it.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of couches and drinks at the movies, is the Parkway still open in Oakland?

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s a shame. The last thing I saw there was The Station Agent years ago. That was always a good experience.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Jack London has $5.00 all day/all movies on Sundays.

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s cool. That’s something I definitely would have taken advantage of in my pre-babies days.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Which theater is this?

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes! Loved that place!

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

New theater at Fashion Island (Newport Beach)

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/island-331931-festival-luxury.html

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL FOSTER CITY

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Why?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Wrong Fashion Island?

I have good memories of spending gobs of quarters at the Gold Mine in Fashion Island, Foster City.

It just got sad when that place went downhill. It was ultimately acres of empty storefronts bracketed by a second-run theater, arcade and ice rink at one end and a Red Robin at the other.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

The Gold Mine! They mined my pockets for quarters.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

The OC Register

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

That’ll clear up traffic down there…

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Personally, I love going to the movies. And the quality of the crowd obviously varies with area and movie. In Napa, the movie going crowd is generally pretty polite. If we have to go to Vallejo then, yeah, it’s horrible.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Not if you consider people are watching on phones and tablets. The big screen may comparatively be bigger than ever (that includes sound).

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

The thing I would like to see change is let movie theaters make money off of the first 3 weeks of release, or whatever it is. I feel like if movie theaters weren’t forced to make their money off of ridiculous concession stand prices, going to a movie might be affordable for a family to do, and then they would go and do it. And overall revenue would go up.

I’m no business major, and I have no proof that this would happen, but it seems plausible to me.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

As TVs keep getting larger and their images sharper

movie theatre audiences keep getting smaller.

It’s too bad. There’s something very primal about entering a darkened room with a crowd and seeing huge stories flickering on the wall. The Allegory of the Cave springs to mind, obviously.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve stopped going to movies primarily because most of the movies out there seem completely and totally blah and I’m finding that TV shows- either on now— or from a few years ago that I can find on Netflix and Roku are infinitely more entertaining and better. I’m watching both Twin Peaks and Friday Night Lights right now and I can’t think of any movie right now that’s more compelling

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 24, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Last year wasn't bad.

And the previous year wasn’t either

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Really liked Winter’s Bone.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

God, that movie was depressing. I wasn’t sure there was much of a point to it, though

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 24, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Counterpoint.

The Kids are Alright
The Social Network
True Grit
127 Hours
Avatar
The Blind Side
Precious
A Serious Man

This years does look weaker than those, but it is certainly intensified by the broadened field. Last year was an unusually strong year for movies. There are rarely more than 4 or 5 that merit any consideration.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure I follow your counterpoint.

Are we for the expanded list? because other than Avatar and The Blind Side, those are all really good movies.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I am against the expanded list. Personally, I don’t think those are Academy Award worthy movies. There are a few Academy Award worthy performances within them, but in my opinion they are not great films.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

If you're going to give Avatar a nod

I don’t get why you don’t give Harry Potter a nod for all the franchise accomplished. Putting out 8 quality moves, even with expansive source material, is really impressive.

Throw out extremely loud and incredibly close which most people say is AWFUL

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I haven’t seen Extremely Loud so I was giving it the benefit of the doubt.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

It's in no way perfect

But a 48% on rottentomatoes is pretty fucking bad for an oscar nominated movie.

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s supposed to be awful in ways you’d expect a Tom Hanks/Sandra Bullock movie about 9/11 complete with a U2 song in commercials would be

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 24, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

And speaking of HP, you know who got robbed? Alan Rickman as Snape. Give that mofo an Oscar

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 24, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

FTFY
you know who got robed? Alan Rickman as Snape

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Upon reconsidering.

I maintain that there are rarely more than 4 or 5 films that warrant nomination but I agree that this year even those top 4 are a bit weak.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately since it's such a self-congratulatory whack-off fest

They’ll never not nominate 10 due there being less than 10 worthy nominees. However, in my idyllic outlook, they’d allow there to be up to 10 but usually only nominate 4-6

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree..

I think even the “Top 4 is weak”

Social Network, Kings Speech, Black Swan, True Grit/Fighter was pretty strong top 4 last year

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. It's a weak year.

If Terrence Malick is your thing, Tree of Life’s pretty decent, but it comes with a heavy weight of being a Malick flick.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Tree of Life is in my queue right now

We’ll see.

I also don’t think I can get on board with this The Artist train

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close got a straight-up 'F' from the AV Club.

I thought that there was no mandated number of nominees because the automatic ten was felt to be watering things down.

11 01 10
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretentiousness was exactly what they hated about the movie.
In the aftermath of 9/11, the question arose of when it would be appropriate for popular art to address the events head-on. For a national tragedy of that magnitude, when would it not be "too soon"? Yet Extremely Loud And Incredibly Close, an appalling adaptation of Jonathan Safran Foer’s novel, suggests that maybe that’s the wrong question. The 2006 docudrama United 93, once the trial balloon for "too soon," dodged exploitation by focusing rigorously on the minutiae of a single flight. But it will always be "too soon" for Extremely Loud And Incredibly Close, which processes the immense grief of a city and a family through a conceit so nauseatingly precious that it’s somehow both too literary and too sentimental, cloying yet aestheticized within an inch of its life. It’s 9/11 through the eyes of a caffeinated 9-year-old Harper’s contributor.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty confused Moneyball is up for best picture, and PItt for best actor. The movie was okay, I guess, but nothing award-worthy.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 24, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually thought Pitt was really good

And I’m not a huge Pitt-guy… Agree on the movie though

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I alays wonder if I over rate that movie because of the subject matter

I mean, if it was about water polo or something would it be as good?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It was a well made, entertaining movie. I don’t know about Oscar worthy though.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, its strongest point was that it wasn’t bad.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I also think the cast of characters behind the movie also helped

Pitt, Sorkin, and Bennett Miller is a pretty prominent trio

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

As far as oscar traction, yeah. But as a finished project, they all have better films in their resumes.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, for Miller

I’m not sure if the gulf between Capote and Moneyball is that large (though I liked Capote better)

Moneyball was actually pretty damn well directed, and honestly I don’t think you could’ve done that movie much better as a film. It’s just not a film that screams Best Picture to me.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

honestly I don’t think you could’ve done that movie much better as a film. It’s just not a film that screams Best Picture to me.

I agree. I don’t think you can do any better, but it’s like spaghetti – not fucking it up is as good as you can do. They told the story, they told it well. It entertained me for a couple hours. That’s it. I didn’t leave feeling like everyone I know has to see this film or anything like that.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Pitt would have been

The rest of the flick maybe not so much, but the way he seemed to carry the weight of his failures as a player (you know, not when the film was beating you over the head with it) was pretty damn impressive. Not my first choice for Best Actor, but certainly worth a nod.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Not being a huge pitt guy saves money on deodorant

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by Goofus on Jan 24, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

So did the Red Sox get Cody Ross?

Or just something in the form of Cody Ross?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 8:20 AM PST reply actions  

ROSS RIMMER

My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard

by NuschlerFace on Jan 24, 2012 8:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

BOSS BANGER

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

doc sinner sounds like some evil breed of dog.

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by Merope on Jan 24, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Geez, I’m gonna miss the guy. Will always be one of my favorites.

Of course, now my 5 month-old son is now named after a Boston player. So, great….

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 24, 2012 8:22 AM PST reply actions  

Dude'll be out of the game before your kid's really old enough to know any better.

Plus he’ll always be named for a hero. And also, that is a great choice of a name. Just throwing it out there.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I am at work,

and am listening to an automated call I just got from (I presume) Ron Paul that has been one non-stop list of libertarian fears about Big Brother and the NWO. Five straight minutes of sentences that start with ‘What if…’ and still going strong. Pretty aggravating rhetorical device.

Oh, wow, it just came really close to advocating armed revolution.

Wait, now it’s turning to unbiased news analysis of Obama’s jobs bill. This is really weird.

“The race for the Republican nomination looks like a two-man race between Rick Perry and Mitt Romney… (blah blah blah analysis of the chances of Huntsman, Bachmann, Cain, etc)”

Timely!

Aiight, fuck this. I’m hanging up.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 8:45 AM PST reply actions  

Gingrich right?

Why of course.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope, they said Perry.

And then they discussed the chances of a bunch of other folks who have dropped out since it was recorded. Very strange call.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't read it

It mentions Bachman, Cain and Huntsman, so obviously this was not recent.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 24, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Squash

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

paddle ball ftw

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

This is what your mistress does, isn't it?

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Other times it’s his dominatrix.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing like watching a two year hit there self over and over and over while trying to figure out how to correctly paddle ball.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

How was the match?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Phosphorescent.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much.

He took Delpo apart and stomped on the pieces.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Hah!

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't wait for Federer-Nadal

Their matches have been AMAZING in the past

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Wonder how much the contract is for
The Orioles announced that they have signed Wilson Betemit to a two-year, Major League contract that includes a vesting option for 2014. Brittany Ghiroli of MLB.com adds that Betemit will be Baltimore’s primary DH and that the option is based on plate appearances (Twitter links). Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun first reported the move (via Twitter). Betemit is represented by the Wasserman Media Group.

Guy would be a good backup INF and switch batter off the bench. Granted, he’s no Velez but who is?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 9:02 AM PST reply actions  

I'm not going to get worked up over every player another team signs.

And certainly not Wilson Betemit signing up to DH in Baltimore.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

We don’t know that the Giants didn’t try to sign him.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

What we do know is that they will trade for him at the deadline.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

But if they tried, the price would have been twice as high.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

L.O.L.

That’s right. And he wouldn’t have been twice the price as he’s not worth the price he got! The Giants knew what they were doing when they chose not to get this guy. He’s not an upgrade!

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Not at quadruple the price.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Wilson Betamax!

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: Sharks

So I’m guessing all we’ll hear about the Burns injury today is “lower body injury”?

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 24, 2012 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

I just want to know how long he'll be out.

Do they have any decent defensemen down on the farm?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

We have a couple of decent replacements.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

That's all they have down on the farm

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Torn ACL and MCL

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

@brodiebrazilCSN: Am told from Edmonton that Brent Burns walked onto #sjsharks team bus on his own, without crutches."

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

There was an article in the Mercury News saying that he is finding it painful to walk.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

well, that’s good. Today’s the last game for a week. Hopefully that’s enough time to heal up and he and Clowe will be back after the break.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 24, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Clowe must feel like a wuss seeing that kid with the black eye

playing without even a mask on.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess it depends on what bone in his face is broken.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 24, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s still a hockey player. It’s got to bug him.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

This. I mean a skate to the face is going to leave a gnarly scar, and its pretty graphic, however I think a broken bone in your face might cause more problems.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Bob Nightengale, USA Today writer, says Prince could sign today

If it’s with the Nationals, I’m going to bow down to that random-rumor guy.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 9:21 AM PST reply actions  

I can see teh Nationals getting him. They have two things that he wants money and the national league.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

If it’s with the Nats I might go to more of their games.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

If its with the nats, does that make them the best offense in the NL?

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe not quite the best, but damn, I'm happy for them

I want them to rage against the NL East with a vengeance and furious anger.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

And yes, this will blow up in their face eventually

But I think they’re doing all the right moves to really invest in that fanbase.

I’ll go to a game when I visit my cousin Charlotte

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

And their owner is the richest in MLB

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, shit.

Go Nats. I mean I hope we beat em when it counts, but I wish them nothing but success against that division of teams I hate that are not them.

by Cap M on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

How can they afford all those players, especially considering the deal the O’s finagled out of them when the Nats moved there and the lack of attendance the team gets. Either they’re going to go the way of the Phillies and looking at having no money in a year or two or they’re owner is just using his own money to finance the team. And, if so, can he buy the Giants?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 24, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably not

But it’d be top 3 or so, easy.

Desmond SS
Espinosa 2B
Zimmerman 3B
Fielder 1B
Morse LF
Werth RF
Ramos C
Bernadina CF

Holy shit that’s awesome.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

Those are all of your favorite players!

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

It's a lot of them

Werth, Fielder, Morse have all been white whales. Have loved Espinosa too. Ramos is my favorite cautionary tale about trading away good players for relief pitchers, and the importance of holding on to catching depth.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Good, I have about 6 loads here that need your attention.
Get on it.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

So many whales!

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, thats why I thought they might be the best...

What offenses are tops? Reds? Cards? Diamondbacks?

I think you got it right. Maybe switch 1 and 8

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

You have the 2b batting second, that’s good, but the CF needs to bat fist.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Unf

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you got it right. Maybe switch 1 and 8

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Werth’s contract is still scary as crap.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Was he any good last year?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

He dropped like 40 points of wOBA off his career totals.

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by xanthan on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

He also dropped like 40 points off his career babip

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

A .330 OBP with that crappy batting average

Dude still takes pitches. That would be refreshing on the Giants.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s Brandon Belt.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Belt without power!

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

The correct opinion was “none of the above”

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Crap IS pretty scary.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s why I flush it and scream at the same time.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jan 24, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Meh

If he rebounds and puts up a Werthian year this season, everyone will forget about him.

I’m excited for 2013 when they shift him to CF for Harper.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

he should start with the faceblack now.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, totally read that as "maybe he should start with the blackface now."

I was seriously confused.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was some weird facebook app

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 24, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I could see Bryce Harper doing it.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

YAY CHIEN MING WANG

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Gung Hay Fat Choy

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what he would say in spring training

God Hey Fat Guy!

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Good bye Cody

thanks for the hops. and the skipping.

Bye Travis and thanks for 2010! Good luck with the Brewers!

by kennv on Jan 24, 2012 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

I’m going to miss that little hop he does with Panda after the games.

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Say what?
NEW BEDFORD, Massachusetts (AP) — A former dentist in the U.S. has pleaded guilty to fraud for using paper clips instead of stainless steel posts in root canals.
Authorities say instead of stainless steel posts for root canals, he used sections of paper clips — which can cause pain and even infection — in an effort to save money.
Attorney General Martha Coakley says paper clips can sometimes be used temporarily, but the 53-year-old Clair used the paper clips as a permanent fix.

There should be no circumstances under which paper clips should be inside someone’s tooth.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 9:49 AM PST reply actions  

Only because you haven't seen my friend's Dentist

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

somebody missed a maymay

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

somebody needs a pic (actually most of us do).

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

took me awhile to find it again

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Suddenly my gums are aching a bit.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I just felt my gums move a little.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Asians age really well.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

jct is actually 70 years old

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

You should see my mother in law she looks like she is in her 30s

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

TRAINERS HATE HER

60-year-old woman looks 25!
See her one weird trick!

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Shes in her late 40s so there is that too.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I need a new dentist.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I prefer my dentist male, and my obgyn female. I used to have an older general practitioner who I had a huge crush on.

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

What about your orthopedic surgeons?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s my hair stylist.

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

My wife is a baby orthopedic surgeon. :D

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

....

resident

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing he also failed to pass the savings along to the consumer.

Dentists got RDFs too, yo.

Brandon “The Dentist’s Paperclip” Crawford?

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

True

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

i will destroy this paperclip thing

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Someone once posted a photoshop of this thing assisting someone with a suicide note. It was awesome.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

xx

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

This deserves to be rec’d or flag’d—not sure which yet.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I separate all my orange and black paperclips.

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

They don’t get along with the blue and white paperclips.

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Paper clips aren’t that weird, although by no means great, but he was also practicing with a suspended dentistry license and filing fraudulent Medicaid claims.

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Call me crazy

I would prefer not to have my dentists use office supplies for dental work.

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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

After a spin in the autoclave it’s all good.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Even properly sterilized? It’s just metal (admittedly, not all paper clips are the same, and they are definitely not designed for that use)

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you miss this part?
paper clips — which can cause pain and even infection

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

OTOH
Attorney General Martha Coakley says paper clips can sometimes be used temporarily

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

That doesn't have anything to do with paperclips

It’s dentistry. Can you think of something that wouldn’t cause pain and infection?

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't get the uproar

If it’s sterile, what’s the difference? It’s a little piece of metal either way.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

This thread is causing me pain. I have a dentist appt. at noon.

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand, it's definitely an off-label use.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

This is pretty amazing
Jay Jaffe @jay_jaffe
Congratulations to @fastballs, whom new Astros GM @jluhnow wisely plucked from the ranks of @baseballpro. Fine work in his short time at BP

@fastballs is Mike Fast, btw.

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by xanthan on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

Mike Fast, Chris Quick?

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Mother.
of.
God.

Ask me about my blog.

by xanthan on Jan 24, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

The Vroom Brothers!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Breaking: The Lancaster Barnstormers have hired me.

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by xanthan on Jan 24, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

You better of gotten a free Heat Surge written into your contract!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

twss

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

This is incredible!

That could easily be one of YOU around here, if only you didn’t dick around praising Lord Brisbee and Lady jponry while scolding GiantPain.

I bet it was the news that Scioscia had Fast’s catcher framing report on his desk that sealed the deal.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 12m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
A big 1-yr. deal for Prince allows him to hit market next fall, when LAD, NYM might be in better position to bid. Again: SPECULATION.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

I am not sure why Olney/Heyman and those guys allow themselves to be used by player agents.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

How much of a kick back do you think they get? A free dinner? A big $ gift card?

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

It is probably something like an agreement to get the story first when he does sign somewhere.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I bet they get a nice steak dinner too.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s the only way they stay relevant. If they weren’t pawns, they wouldn’t have jobs.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Scoops?

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

OT - Anyone have a preferred bit torrent client for a mac?

I just re-upped my dime account and realized I did all my past torrents on a PC.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

I use an old version of Vuze that I refuse to update.

Dunno what the modern one is like.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

this is exactly what i use

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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010

by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Well I guess the sun is just not going to burn through the fog today…I get to take my walk in the muck.
I’m expecting at least 1000 more comments by the time I get back.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM PST reply actions  

Here’s me doing my part.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

3

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Having a Granola bar at the moment

Doing my part in ending world hunger. I am no longer hungry.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Now if all those slackers in Africa would hold up their end.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

and it's absolutely clear here on the coast, back to this stagnant weather pattern

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

It was a perfect day in DFW for a run. Rain coming in tonight & again tomorrow on my rest day. Back to you Jim.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes, Twitter is weird.
Jason Segel @jasonsegel Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Holy Moly! Man or Muppet was nominated for a best song Oscar! Congrats to Bret McKenzie and the whole Muppet team!!! So happy for everyone!

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 10:39 AM PST reply actions  

This doesn’t seem so weird.

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by Natto on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I still sing that song.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

It does warm the cockles of my heart that Bret could win an Oscar. Here’s hoping he’ll wear a sweater with animals on it and his bike helmet with hair

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jan 24, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok...how the Fock

are we going to beat Halladay now?!?!

by djfivenine on Jan 24, 2012 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

Hope like hell.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Hop like hell

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Ho like he

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

So she led him to believe.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy crap.
Kyle Williams was the 49ers’ scapegoat on Monday morning, but a day later, we learn that the Giants had been targeting Williams all game because of his concussion history. Sometimes the NFL is hard to love.

Link

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 10:47 AM PST reply actions  

Football is terrible.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

They’re gifted warriors, leave them alone. Except for the kickers, fuck them.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow the tweets he received are horrible.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

i can't call those people fans either

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

people fucking suck

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. People are dumb.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Sometimes giving people direct access to you is a really bad idea. Because people are assholes.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Horrible AND stupid.

Makers of death threats from personal Twitter/Facebook accounts are not the hardest folks to track down.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

There is a horrible story of a group of teens (in philly) who ordered a pizza and had it delivered to an abandoned house and then killed the delivery man and took only the $11 pizza. They tracked them down using the phone that was used to order.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

what the hell possesses people to do this shit

jeeze

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s time America considered a pizza prohibition.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Drugs?

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I know...

we can see your alias…and sometimes your face.
Why are you making death threats?

So strange.

by djfivenine on Jan 24, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

People suck

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, we absolutely do.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

this

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Some of us even get paid to do it!

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t @ him on Twitter, but I certainly called him a shithead on Twitter after the ball hit his knee. By the time the second one had come around I was already in the process of grieving the eventual loss.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was weird that the announcers never mentioned that dude on the Saints getting knocked out.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, is Thomas ok?

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I never looked it up. It was just something I thought at the time. This guy is knocked out on national tv and all they talked about was whether he was down or not before he fumbled.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: Anybody been to Melbourne, Australia?

We are leaving for Melbourne tomorrow for a quick vacation to attend my cousin’s wedding. Any cool things to do / see besides the obvious places?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

Eat at Outback Steakhouse.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Drink Fosters

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather die.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

You already blew it by not gettin Open tix.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

William T Riker was offered command of USS Melbourne but turned it down

“She’s a fine ship, Will” said Picard.

Of course later that episode it was blown up at Wolf 359 by Jean-Luc.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked the episode when he went insane.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

When we finish TOS, I just want to skip to DS9.

But I’m not sure I can convince my husband. But Christ, I just can’t see sitting through that horrible Deanna Troi again for any reason.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Why skip to DS9?

That just brings you closer to Voyager and Enterprise. Don’t you want to put those off for as long as possible?

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I would watch Voyager again, despite Neelix. But I’ve never seen more than about 10 mins of the first Enterprise. Too bad, because it was a good idea.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

The best thing they did was get rid of Kes

She was horrible.

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't mind Kes

but 7of9 was way more interesting.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

“interesting”

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, besides the costume

the whole mother/daughter thing with Janeway was interesting. Very seldom do you see this explored, especially in scifi.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

chakotay / janeway, on the otherhand...

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, yeah, that sucked.

I liked B’lanna Torres, tho. HATED, HATED that nancy boy, I have blocked out his name. Waste of space.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

tom paris

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Ugh, right.

Ugh.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

What was the rationale for 7 of 9/Chakotay again?

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

tits and tats

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Neelix was annoying as hell

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably the worst ST character.

I liked the Doctor a lot, tho.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Tuvix, on the other hand, was ridiculous as hell.

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, she made a good Romulan.

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I used to like Romulan noodles but I got burnt out on them.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't even know who you are anymore

TNG is by far the best acting series.

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

You watch ST for the acting?

And it’s only Patrick Stewart that was any good. Brent Spiner was ok, I guess.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

dude Q

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Geordi La Forge was aight too.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

OK,

but Q was on Voyager and more fun torturing Janeway anyway. I never bought that Picard would fall for his schtick.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

tell me

how many lights do you see

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Which was your favourite series?
DS9 > TNG > Voyager

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

TNG > DS9 > Voyager

TOS is in its own category. It’s just…different.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t seen that or Enterprise.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It holds up so much better than people realize. The third season might kill that notion, but the first two are above board.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Second season was the best, but there are still some duds. We recently watched the one where a whole planet bases its culture on gangsters of the ’30s. Shatner sporting a pimp hat.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

It wasn't a schtick when they first met.

Q was about to destroy humanity for being a “grievously savage species”!

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but Q was so obivously a comic role, tho. That hat!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he became it, but that was because S1 was kind of awful when he was serious (and Q Who happened, and things took off)

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I never cared for Q. I thought he was used well exactly twice: “Tapestry” and the series finale. The other times, meh.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

When he became human… that was a good one. “Hello, Worf. So good to see you. Eat any good books lately?” and making Data laugh were highlights. And that was the one time where his schtick worked.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I remember that episode. With the weird Roger Dorn cameo at the end.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Famous “on the Paramount lot the day we had to shoot that scene” cameo.

Kelsey Grammar and Bebe Neuworth (wirth?) had similar cameos.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Kelsey Grammar I remember, but I don’t remember Bebe Neuwirth!

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

She played an alien who wanted to have sex with an alien (Riker) in the episode “First Contact.”

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok, I think I actually remember the scene. But she was of course buried under tons of makeup.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Tapestry is the single best episode in TNG in my mind

The acting was just superb by Picard.

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Patrick Stewart: Pretty Damn Good™

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Good not Great

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish I could have had a chance to see him play Prospero when he was a guest artist at my college. First time he ever played the role, too. Apparently his process of developing the character was pretty amazing, too.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

remember that speech he delivered in the ending of that episode

where Wesley’s team performed a stunt and an accident killed one of the ensigns? That was also fantastic.

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, fuck, Wesley

another reason to avoid TNG. Although, I love Wil Wheaton.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Tapestry and Inner Light are my favorites. If I’m in an action/adventure-oriented mood, then Yesterday’s Enterprise and the series finale are also up there.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

My all time favorite star trek episode in general though

was In a Pale Moonlight. Because Garak is just that badass.

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s my #2 DS9 ep, behind Necessary Evil.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, you people know them by their names? kinda nerdy.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I am also a fan of "The Pegasus"

because Phasing Cloak!

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

At one point in my life I knew the writers and directors for most of the episodes, too. In fact, I became more interested in the writers than the actors.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Some of them are still working today:

Ron Moore & Brannon Braga
Rene Echevarria
Michael Taylor
Bryan Fuller
Robert Hewitt Wolfe
Ira Steven Behr

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

my take

Ron Moore: yay!
Brannon Braga: okay in small doses, but Voyager was all Braga, all the time. Meh.
Rene Echevarria: the only one on the staff who knew how to write episodes with emotional depth.
Taylor & Fuller: were only occasional writers on DS9 before becoming staff writers on VOY and Enterprise, so I don’t know as much about them.
Robert Hewitt Wolfe: he and Behr became tag-team writers later, but I like some of his earlier stuff like “The Wire” (not to be confused with the series).
Ira Steven Behr: eventually the staff boss. He tended toward wild and slightly unfocused action stories with Big Plot Events, mixed in with the occasional character study.

In the DS9 era, I also liked Hans Beimler and Peter Allan Fields.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

hey

Frakes was pretty good…when they got screen time, McFadden, Dorn, and of course de Lancie

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

When you watch the TNG actors in the movies you can see how bad they are as television actors. Stewart and Spiner and Burton excepted, of course.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

If I went by the movies, Spiner is the worst of the cast by far. (Precious little lifeforms? Flotation device? Really?)

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

i just...love... scanning for life forms

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok, which movie do you think he was good in? Cause I think he was bad in all 4.

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

He was good in the only movie that was good: First Contact.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

But, if I ranked the actors, it’d be Stewart → Burton → Spiner… but it’s a steep drop between each cast mate. They just… they weren’t very good.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

meh, it's just focus

Generations focused on Picard and Data; Stewart did fine and Spiner really overacted

First Contact I thought everyone was fine

Insurrection focused on Picard and Stewart did ok (I think he and Spiner were right on in their assessment of the script)

Nemesis focused on Picard and Data and everybody stunk.

OTOH, Dorn was fine in DS9.

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Makes me want to watch Mr. Plinkett vids again.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it took itself just a bit too seriously.

ST should have perspective on the fact that it’s just a Western with gadgets.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I had actually never seen any Star Trek until I was in college. I had a friend who would not shut up about it and said I absolutely had to watch it. So I ended up borrowing TNG, and it soon became the show I would put on while doing homework. It was actually really fun.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d taken a brief hiatus from watching TNG and the first episode I saw when I returned to it was this one. I thought the show had gone insane.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

ONCE AGAIN

VOYAGER WAS, IS, AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST STAR TREK

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Jan 24, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

janeway was the best captain too

best cast
best ship
best story
the only thing it failed in was its ending

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Im not trolling and I know what I am talking about

Ive seen every Star Trek series
read a few of the books

Im not just some uninformed troll

That being said Voyager was the best written with the most interesting plot and most diverse and entertaining cast

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Small words from a small being, trying to attack what it doesn’t understand.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Got to be trolling.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

SNG
DS9
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TOS
Enterprise

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

“They’ll be no tribble at all!”

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This was the Giants FO at Timmy’s signing this morning.

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by nvsfg on Jan 24, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

“That’s not a knife.”

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey Kenny Williams-

If the Kyle’s supposedly sore or separated shoulder is not to be used as an excuse and had no effect upon his performance, then why are you telling us about it?

11 01 10
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 11:03 AM PST reply actions  

ugggh

I can’t even look at the word “punt” without cringing.

by djfivenine on Jan 24, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

A backup, multiple concussions, sore shoulder, separated shoulder… why was he even trying to field the punts?

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Sore shoulders cause footballs to bounce off his knee.

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Its just a dad protecting his son. Kyle isn’t using it.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

He talked about it yesterday

no excuses, was his answer basically

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Thing is

i like how the team stuck together, and backed him up, wasn’t the same thing with Akers last year with the Eagles

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

"He thinks he may have separated his shoulder in the third quarter, so he is in the training room," Kenny Williams told ESPN by phone from San Francisco. "That information he has not said anything about publicly and will not because he felt strongly that he could get the job done. There are no excuses; we don’t do that. I don’t want that misconstrued."

If it had no bearing on his performance and the implication of it being an excuse is insulting, there’s no reason to talk about it. We know that football players are banged up by late January.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I was kind of surprised he was a punt returner in college.

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

On the last play of his college career, he fumbled the ball, lost to their rival Arizona

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s just dedicated to his own unique schtick.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to miss Cody Ross and his ability to piss off Philly fans

An ability that’s only rivaled by Flyers goalies, Santa Claus, and 12 year old girls.

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by mymclife on Jan 24, 2012 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

We still have Bryz!

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by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

LINCECUM CLOSE?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

Yes, just a little faster.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Wilson is still closing

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

he’s not hurt?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Lincecum
JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
lincecum, #sfgiants very, very close on 2-year deal for a little over $40M. avoids arb into free agency.

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

Nice.

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

2 is fine, for 40 isn't bad either

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s about the best we could reasonably hope for.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

yup

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

The only way it was going to be 4 years was 100+

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think both sides realized it’s a crapshoot either way and best not piss each other off.

Giants better get an offense or he gone. Unless he starts to suck.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

13-14 record last year

He has already started to suck!

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by D4P on Jan 24, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL WINZ

God, I hope the FO doesn’t look at it that way.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Good

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe this might mean a longer term deal for MATT CAIN?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

OOOOH, I LIKE!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Cain should have been the focus this offseason anyway. We still have time for Tim.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

News

JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
with new deal, lincecum will make $54M over final 3 arb yrs. thats $22M more than hamels and double cain. #SFGiants

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:15 AM PST reply actions  

makes sense

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t that put the contract under $40M?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I think 41. Didn’t get get 13 this year?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was 18.

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by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Cot’s reports him as having made $14MM in 2011.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

It was 8/13 with a signing bonus.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

They probably split the bonus over both years.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he got $1MM bonus each year

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

There ya go, then.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. It’s worth noting that Cots is terrible about keeping track of bonuses (witness the Rowand bonus).

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

He's also been better than Hamels and Cain

Not doubly better, but he was super 2 eligible.

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Hank is working hard confirming other reporters work
Henry Schulman @hankschulman Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Confirmed report by @JonHeymanCBS that 2-year deal with Timmy is close, but not done

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

he'll look at it after lunch

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

He won’t be able to see it then with a full stomach.

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by nvsfg on Jan 24, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

@JaymeeSireCSN

I’m told Tim Lincecum and the #SFGiants have reached a verbal agreement.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

yup
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Things move fast. An being told Lincecum, Giants have reached verbal agreement.

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

YES

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
lincecum and #SFGiants still far apart on long deal, like 2-3 yrs and maybe $80M-plus. good to avoid arb tho

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

3/80 is already pretty terrible.

80+ would be outright stupid.

Grow a pair, Larry.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

8 years, 126 million

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he means they're 3 years and 80 million apart

Which I could buy.

I could see the Giants offering 4/80 and Tim saying he wants 7/160 (Sabathia’s deal from 2009).

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s not like they don’t have 2 more years to hash this shit out. A lot may depend on how the team does in 2012.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait. I thought this meant they were off on the nature of a long-term deal. Like, maybe the Giants want 5 and Team Tim wants 7-8. The Giants offer $100MM for those 5, Team Tim wants $180MM for 7/8. Isn’t that what that meant?

And, more importantly, isn’t that just Heyman’s speculation, as it seems like simply an amalgamation of reported figures from the past week and a half?

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

If that’s the case, then I’m not sure why it would be worth citing at this juncture. The difference between 5/100 and 7-8/180 is colloquially known as “fuck off.”

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Give the Yankees’ fans hope.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

A verbal agreement, eh?

I sure hope the coach who recruited him doesn’t abruptly decamp to the Huskies Mariners.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

They sealed it with a hug.

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Seal’s Kissed by a Rose.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

ouch

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by Kestrel76 on Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

At least Shaq Thompson hasn’t decomitted from y’all yet.

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by Kestrel76 on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

That hurt

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Uncalled for.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Is Timmy’s word as good as oak?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Timmy's word is his bong.....er Bond.

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by nvsfg on Jan 24, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

So OFFICIALLY
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Timmy gets two years, $40.5 million

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

That seems reasonable and even fair.

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Um... so what happens in 2014...

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Go Giants

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

This

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't Matter

World ends at 2012

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by Kestrel76 on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

No, just the Hobbit movie.

But many make that mistake.

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by breadfan7 on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I honestly don't care, just care about the present, but just wondering

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

/extrapolation xkcd dot jpg

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Opening Day Starter Matt Cain.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

They can work on his extension next offseason.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Rage.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Good.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that’s, like reasonable and shit. Breakdown?

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by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

nothing yet

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

here:
JohnSheaHey John Shea
Timmy: 18 in ’12, 22 in ’13, 500 signing bonus.

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

500 DOLLARS!?!?!?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that’s like, so good.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

You can buy like 100 burgers with that!

by S. Pickford #25 on Jan 24, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

You can get more burgers per dollar at White Castle

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by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Paid in Panda hats!

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by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I bet its 17 M and 23 M with 500K bonus.

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by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

That means that Tim’s agent changed his mind about how much he’s worth in the past week.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

he must know something the giants dont!!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

like he will likely lose the arb case

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Not really.

Maybe he just caught on to the fact that he wasn’t going to win if they went to arbitration.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

WHO HAS EVER HEARD OF A AGENT OVER ESTIMATING HIS CLIENTS WORTH!!!!!!!!!

IT NEVER HAPPENS!!!!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

"The impact of Derek Jeter cannot be overstated."

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

/overstates his value

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

My 2 for 40 prediction was pretty damn close

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

perrrrrty close

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think I said 18-22 or 19-23 somewhere.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I said 2/42

what’a million between friends?

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Too much to bid on a Japanese shortstop.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Still probably wouldn't have won the bid anyway.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Not much, so give me one (two if you'd like).

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

NERD TALK!!!!

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

LOLNERDS

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude is going to be a free agent.

He better hope he pitches well over the next two years.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

This will be good for the Giants.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

And that his arm stays attached to his trunk

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Seems like he 100% wants to test free agency unless the Giants blow him away with an offer

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably how I would approach it too.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s guaranteed to have made $60 MM. In some respects, his next contract is kinda meh to his total worth.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just waiting for the bleacher report trying to decipher why the Yankees wouldn’t top 2/40.5 for Tim.

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by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

I saw Sanchy at the gym again last week. He saw my Giants workout shirt and smirked. He had a WS 2010 beanie on.

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by doggz on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

Dirty or clean (or catcher)?

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t know what to do if this happened to me.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I know I would embarrass myself.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

You wouldn’t. They wouldn’t give you the chance.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

It is weird. I once saw Chase Utley and Jamie Moyer at my gym in the off season. They are just super focused and don’t acknowledge anyone.

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by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

They’re at work, essentially. Utley especially. Dude seems crazy committed.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

When he’s injured and horrible.

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

THATS THE JOKE

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh man, I just realized my friend totally parodized this last summer, but with Matt Cain.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Dirty or Filthy?

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I just gave him the “hey I know you from somewhere look” like I did last time. I noticed one guy at the gym wearing his jersey shirt by coincidence.

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by doggz on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Dirty.

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by doggz on Jan 24, 2012 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

dancing

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

dozen

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by doggz on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

by Christina Aguilera

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

diaper

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

i realized after i typed mine that this was the much better call

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

bird

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

deeds

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

deals done dirt cheap

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Was this a gym in Pacifica?

by City Girl on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

City Girl: yes the 24 in Pacifica

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by doggz on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Laundry

AM I DOIN IT RITE??

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

parenthesis

(possibly the worst song ever made of all time)

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I love that song, which probably means you’re right.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

oh... my...

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Very underrated movie.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Dirty Pretty Things

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by nvsfg on Jan 24, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It was dumb when athletes did that to Bush, and it’s dumb now.

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree. I was just wondering if it had already been talked to death or not.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

The most entertaining part of it was Schulman’s twitter rant.

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

that was retarded

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

He will never learn

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

IT WAS A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE!!!!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

In his metaphor, what does Fred Lewis represent?

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Champagne is spraying everywhere

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

A little too close to sex in the champagne room I think

But in my opinion, you’re a fucking moron if you don’t go. I don’t care who the President is.

It’s an honor to get invited to the White House.

I enjoyed this tweet..


Late Show" writer Eric Stangel: “Tim Thomas refuses to go to International House of Pancakes because he doesn’t like their dependence on foreign syrups”

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, my bad. I didn’t think about the sex-in-the-champagne-room aspect until after I posted.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Too late. Now just sit back and watch it grow…

p.s., i don’t mind at all

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

TWHS.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I fluffed that one up pretty nicely if I do say so…

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

twss

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Not trying to be political but...

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

neither did Pujols in 06

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Tim Thomas is an idiot.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

but a solid rebounder

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

True. And he isn’t very good at paying for cab rides.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s playing an un-American sport. I don’t see what his problem is.

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by El Person on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s a soccer player?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 24, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

WHHHHAAATTTTT
Tim Brown @TBrownYahoo Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Source: Prince is very close to a nine-year contract with the Detroit Tigers, according to sources.
Retweeted by Adrian Wojnarowski

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

WHAT THE FUCK

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL THAT RANDOM INTERNET RUMOR GUY

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

This is at least the 3rd major breaking story I have heard on Fielder today.

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

bahahahahahahaha

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

lolol

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

oh...
mlbtraderumors MLB Trade Rumors
Tigers, Prince Fielder Nearing Nine-Year Deal bit.ly/ADiRN2 #mlb

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Thats based of the Tim Brown link

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

ohhhh, well fuck

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

so... Miguel Cabrera AND Prince Fielder

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Detroit… wow

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

There's nowhere to play Martinez

They have to trade him

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Aging C/1B/DH with a blown knee!

Getcha aging C/1B/DH with a blown knee heah!

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I did read somewhere

They got a lot of the money back on him on insurance

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

They actually insured his contract?!

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

You make your bed and you lay in it.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Crasnick says he got a text from Boras saying no deal.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Verlander must be so annoyed.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Woah

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Non-champagne-room Hockey news
David Pollak @PollakOnSharks
Burns out tonite, but “injury is not as severe as we originally thought,” McLellan told reporters in CGY. More charley horse than knee.

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

LOL

Wuss. Good, tho, actually.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Excuse Miss...You said what ?

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by nvsfg on Jan 24, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Any news on a call up from Worcester?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

with whom?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

IGINLA!

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Like it matters

they couldn’t even beat the Oilers.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup. Last before the All Star break.

I expect an effortless loss

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Just like last night?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

OT IP LAW

Have you heard of Duane Morris LLP in SF?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

My parents are really good friends with one of the lawyers there.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Except with regards to draft pick compensation. Unless they don’t do that anymore.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

They do, though it's much more restrictive.

Lincecum will almost certainly be eligible, though.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I think this was the last year. I believe the new thing is that you have extend a qualifying offer to the player that has an AAV = the top X at the position.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s the average of the top 125 salaries in the sport, and I think it has to only be for one year. They could easily do that, since that would still be a steal for Lincecum.

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You will have to hear about his FA negotiations, tho.

Should be good for some major hilarity.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

OT: probably breaking (!!)

Anyone catch Lowell Cohn’s blog where he ripped Harbaugh and called him an 11 year old?
I found it quite douchey.

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 11:59 AM PST reply actions  

On Monday, Harbaugh held his season wrap-up news conference and it was revealing in ways Harbaugh probably doesn’t understand. Near the end of the session, the Chronicle’s Eric Branch, who used to work for The Press Democrat, asked an easy-to-answer human-interest question.

"How did you spend your time after the game? What did you do last night?"

Harbaugh shot Branch a look as if Branch had asked about Harbaugh’s sex life. Harbaugh giggled nervously.

"I was a …" He giggled again. "Is this California?" he demanded. "Where everybody just wants to know how you feel, what you thought, how you did, how your pinky feels?"

The pinky reference was a direct shot at me. I was the pinky asker. Harbaugh stood there, his jaw rigid.

"You’re part Californian," I reminded him.

Harbaugh still didn’t answer.

"We want to hear an answer to the question," I told Harbaugh.

"You demand an answer to the question?" he said.

I imagined the prepubescent buzz in the voice of an 11-year-old as he blew off his mommy.

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

What a fucking moron.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s approaching Jeff Pearlman status.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Imagine, after a hard fought season and gut-wrenching loss, a coach not wanting to give adequate respect and due consideration to your ridiculously trivial little question.

If you ask me (and I’m not sure why you would) most reporters/media outlets have gotten a little big for their britches.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think "how did you deal with the loss" is a fair question.

And “I really don’t want to talk about it just yet” is a fair answer.

Both sides could’ve stood to be a little less snippy with each other, but the real line-crossing is publishing a petulant finger-pointing story about it.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard that yesterday, Harbaugh didn’t sound like he was giggling…

by Hyoton on Jan 24, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Lowell Cohn's a douche

Doesn’t deserve the page hits

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

So dumb
I thought, ‘We’re a well-coached team,’" Harbaugh said.

Note: My mother always told me, "Don’t blow your own horn, son."

There are other coaches on the team

Invoking the Tuck Rule was the living end. The notorious Tuck Rule and what it did to the Raiders against New England 10 years ago continues to be an outrage in the NFL. It is perceived as one of the greatest injustices any team had to endure. The ruling on

Bradshaw does not exist at that level and it certainly did not affect the outcome of the game as the Tuck Rule did.

I would argue that it was close.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL
Mychael Urban @BigUrbSports 2m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Evidence that #SFGiants GM Brian Sabean is a cool, fair guy: had news of Lincecum deal texted to all of us who cover team at same time

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

You can text on a Razr?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

.60 cents each, additional fees may apply. There goes the RDF

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by nvsfg on Jan 24, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Except for Heyman who had the offer before any of you

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

SEE I CAN BREAK NEWZ TOO!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Additional sign he’s cool: No @BrianSabean twitter handle.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I like that he "had news... texted"

Brian Sabean does not write his own fucking texts, people.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know what makes you say that.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Lars already covered that.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

His thumbs are too big

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The team hasn’t come out with a statement that makes it clear one way or the other, so, we just don’t know for sure, but should err on the side of whatever makes them look best.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Hello everyone .........

long time no see. i finally beat Skyrim. invested 120 hours of my life into it. great news about the “Freak.” i missed you guys.

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by GIANT stoner on Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

Sweet! Can I have it?

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

WOW
Jason A. Churchill @ProspectInsider Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
9/214 for Fielder, per Heyman.

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

Sweet mother of mystery.

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

unbelievable

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

mind blown?

YES

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Good for you Prince. For what it’s worth, I like that contract better than Pujols’.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

A year shorter, for less money, for a younger player. What’s not to like?

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Only thing would be LOLFAT, I guess.

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Get the money
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by El Person on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

At least it’s an AL Team. I mean, look at Ortiz.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

And the fact that his defense is already really bad.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean

With Cabrera there, he’s going to DH now.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s a lot of money for a DH.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't Cabrera a pretty bad 1b too?

Wouldn’t they almost split time between the two positions?

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
prince will be the first baseman, for anyone asking. cabrera will have to change role. #tigers

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Cuz by all accounts, Cabrera is better (that’s not saying much).

It’s probably a way for the Tiger to make sure Prince stays in shape.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Cabrera to 3B, mayhaps

I know they loved Brandon Inge in Detroit, but… It’s Brandon Inge.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Leyland had said Cabrera would play 3rd if the Tigers had made the World Series.

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Per Heyman, Fielder’s at first.

by Every6thDay on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

He would need to have 5 WAR just to break even. He has only done that twice in last 5 years (3 if you are just counting oWAR)

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he’d have to be 5 WAR, we’ll have to see how the money is spread out to be sure, but he certainly needs to be worth 4 WAR, and 4 WAR DHs are pretty rare.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 24, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree

but Fielder has been have to be a lot more consistent just to have the deal break even.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Has Fielder been inconsistant? It seems like the only things inconsistent in his numbers are the baserunning and fielding components to his WAR which are inherently relatively inconsistant and unreliable, aren’t they?

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 24, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Year . Rbat . oWAR
2007…45…4.9
2008…24…2.4
2009…61…6.4
2010…36…3.5
2011…56…5.9

Those are Huffian even year / odd year splits right there.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s not as good as Pujols?

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by speckops on Jan 24, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

AAV a little under 24 mil

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Are the Tigers still owned by that Pizza dude?

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He must have made a lot of pizza last year.

by capn on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He better hope Fielder eats a lot of pizza. Veggie toppies only, of course.

by non sequitur on Jan 24, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

little caesars?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAH CANT WAIT UNTIL HE GETS OBESE

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

wow
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prince agrees with #tigers

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

krazy
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price deal is $214M, 9 yrs. #tigers

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

hey, did anybody hear?
Prince signs with the Tigers.

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by GIANT stoner on Jan 24, 2012 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

hey gaiz
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A’s make Bartolo Colon signing official.

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by jctGamer on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Today is fat people signing day.

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by El Person on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

And the A’s say: “Hey Guys! We reached a deal with a pitcher too!”

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

They will need a concession stand in the dug out just to keep him going.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, how many more people will go to O.co now

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 24, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Take THAT, rest of the AL West!

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by Natto on Jan 24, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The important question is

Will Deadspin still have its weekly Colon-o-meter?

Or now that he is not on the Yankees is it no longer funny?

by WhatsAMataHari on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t Prince have a less than sterling relationship with his father? Interesting that he’d land in Detroit.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, that’s what I thought. In terms of PR, though, it would be hard to think of a team who stands to gain more by signing Fielder, though.

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vaughmo01.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fieldce01.shtml

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

Poor royals

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by operation carrot on Jan 24, 2012 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

Has Fielder signed yet?

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by bigboneded on Jan 24, 2012 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

So I would've loved Fielder

But not on that deal. Fuck that noise.

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by DFARowand on Jan 24, 2012 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

What happens to Miguel Cabrera now?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

one of the two is DHing.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks slimmer by comparison?

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by ResDog on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL BORAS

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

so it's not official

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by CalBear949 on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t he say he’d give up twitter if he was wrong?

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by Solidarity on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, remember how Jim Bowden has been a genius in contract predictions?
Bill_TPA Bill
If true, Bowden was off by 1 year and $0.22 million in AAV for Fielder. He’s like Rain Man.

by GiantPain on Jan 24, 2012 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

Obligatory

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by rotorueter on Jan 24, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

New thread.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

Thank god.

My heart couldn’t take much more excitement in this one.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 24, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

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