In the grand tradition of halftime entertainment, the Clippers promotional staff roped one random fan out of the stands to see if he could do the unlikely, sink a shot from half court in one, and only one, try. Oh, and just to make things interesting, a prize would be offered. A nice prize—a new car.
As it happens, that lucky random fan was (Randy) Winn.
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I’m surprised he wasn’t ruled ineligible. Maybe his unrated status made it okay?
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unrated
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I always liked Randy. One of my favorite Giants of recent memory.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He doesn’t seem like your kind of guy.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
He was good on bad teams
I sympathize. And I unf’d on his UZRs.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Like so many players
Bruce Bochy’s stubborn insistence to play him his last year with us really soured me on him.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
As bat as he hit in 09
he still put up 3 WAR. Dude could field.
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 18, 2012 8:23 AM PST up reply actions
Wow: 3.1 dWAR
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
I know!
I just assume he had a game where he turned nine unassisted triple plays. Which is hard to do from right.
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 18, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
His overall fWAR was 1.9
But you’re right that was all because of his defense. His wRC+ was 82
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Torres'd.
2011 Edition, of course.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Classy
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by nvsfg on Jan 18, 2012 8:23 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Splendiferous
McClass
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions
He gave the car to his mom.
Such class.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Randy Winn took 90 extra bases than an average runner from 2005-2009
This Does not include stolen base. This is first to third on a single or going home from second. One of the best baserunner in baseball.
The worst? Are you surprised?
http://www.billjamesonline.com/stats241/
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
LOL
The entire worst list is not a surprise.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Mike Lowell
Mike LOL
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Chase Utley is so fucking good at everything.
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What, no Ruben Rivera?
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 18, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions
One could argue that he took about 6 extra bases
But that depends on if you count round trips.
The first six innings are overrated.
It’s so McCoven that a post about someone who was one of the best at something contains a link to the list of who’s worst.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Awesome
I can’t wait for Gary Brown.
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Jan 18, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I like the "best teams" list.
how much during that time did we hear that the team had to get better at “fundamentals” like base running, instead of fundamentals like getting on base and just hitting the damn ball.
I guess it’s the classy Winn effect, but on a team with Molina, and Speedy McFuckup I’m impressed by the Giants placing.
Bye Travis and thanks for 2010! Good luck with the Brewers!
'Memba this?
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11218707&topic_id=&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_11218707&v=3
Thanks, Randy.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
Keep a clear head, Bud!
Bud Selig To Determine Cubs’ Compensation For Theo Epstein Hire
& with the A’s to San Jose decision also coming up
I hope I don’t hear “As compensation, the Giants will be awarded two Cubs picks and the Red Sox will be given 1/4 of the A’s revenues for the next 10 years”
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
I still don’t get this. As a gentlemen’s rule, ballclubs usually let the guy out of his contract if he receives an offer for an escalated position.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
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Wooooo calling my congress people because I like the internet where it's at as it keeps me employed
WOOOOOO
BUT PICRCY!
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
WELL MAYBE HE’S A PICRC!
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
OH NOOOOS!
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The last time I contacted a member of congress was about the FISA thing in 2007/2008. I got a canned response letter saying, blah blah blah.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Doesn't matter. Do not take anyting laying down
You need to earn democracy, or it’s not freely given as your voice isn’t represented!
by Cap M on Jan 18, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The last time I contacted congress, [senate specifically] I got put on some damn mailing list and got “OOOOOOh PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE SEND US MONEY” letters from any organization on the planet that could be even remotely affiliated with the democrats. I’m still trying to get my name removed from some of those lists.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I wrote Barbara Boxer a letter when I was 13. An intern sent me a very considerate form letter back.
by free f.p. #14 on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
you’re lucky you didn’t get letters back from 32 other agencies all asking for money. I now have my own form letter to send back to them:
Dear Non-Profit of the Day;
I understand that your group does important and valuable work; however, I am a school teacher, not a Rockafeller, and I cannot afford to give money to every group that descends upon my mailbox:
numbered list of all 32 agencies
Since I am a teacher most of my "discretionary income" goes into buying materials and supplies for my classroom. I am, in reality, my own charity. So while I appreciate the work your group does, please save some trees and money, by taking my name off of your recruitment list. I know you exist, and I know how to use the internet: if I have extra money to send your way I will know where to find you.
Thank you,
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
by Merope on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
LOL
Rec’d
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
I find twitter to be an exceptional way to let my representatives know how I feel about certain issues in general or about them specifically.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
That is a good idea.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Just twittered
Boxer. Feinstein does not have a twitter (her website is down).
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In support of internet blackout day!
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I doubt it
I think her site is hacked…she is listed as a supporter of PIPA
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I don't normally support Anonymous' shenanigans.
But this is about as close to going after them as the government will ever manage to do, so I hope they get after some fools.
Proactive individuals (mostly from Reddit) have already started digging for infringements by leading supporters of the bill.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Meh.
I don’t like this. It just paints the internet even more so as a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t support the fucking shit up for its own sake. But the “oh hey we looked through your computer and you have this account in the Cayman Islands siphoning taxpayer money what is that about” stuff, I’m willing to turn a blind eye to the means.
I’d rather some hackers screw a few crooked politicians than a few crooked politicians screw everybody.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Oh yeah.
I should have been more clear as to what I’m talking about. I’m all for exposure of wrongdoing. But (apparently) taking down http://www.feinstein.senate.gov because she’s a meanie is likely to do more harm than good.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
I find twitter to be an exceptional way to let myrepresentativesbeat writers know how I feel about certain issues in general or about them specifically.
Dearest, Susan – The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
Surprisingly, politicians are better sports about being tweaked than beat writers.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
lol Weiner
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Next up, the Senate and PIPA
Next week the senate votes on the Protect IP Act (S. 968). This is the companion bill to the House’s Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). The list of people that support the bill is astounding—including both of CA’s senators.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
List of business that support SOPA is quite interesting as well
Major League Baseball – 212-485-3444
https://sites.google.com/site/boycottsopasponsors/home/list-of-supporters-and-sponsors
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Here’s the thing though, is it really piracy if no one is selling it?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
Thank you!
I run into that problem with out of print children’s books. “You can’t photocopy that book!!!” “Why the fuck not? I can’t BUY it anywhere!”
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Basically.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Pretty much. Good thing for them the Brothers Grimm didn’t have perpetual copyrights.
2012 is going to be awesome!
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/jun/14/local/me-46381
Locals say that means they’re essentially cut out of the action because they can’t even print bumper stickers boasting “Tarzana, Home of Tarzan” without running the risk of getting sued.
“We’d love to use more of Tarzan, especially now, but our hands are tied,” said Sue Broadwater, corporate secretary of the Tarzana Chamber of Commerce. “I guess we’ll just keep selling T-shirts,” she added, referring to the one piece of Tarzan kitsch the chamber can sell, thanks to an agreement struck with Burroughs in the 1930s.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
How make to cartoon hamburgers
By Disney McDonald
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Grimm v Disney would never have happened in this scenario
because Disney would’ve been squashed after its first three movies.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Ding ding ding.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Especially with the pace of technological change nowadays.
The Fifties this ain’t.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah it looks the most opposition is coming from the right.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I can see why the California senators are for it due to the entertainment industry.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Civil war!
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
"The average age of Senators at the beginning of the 112 Congress was 62.2 years" – Great, so our parents want to run the internet. How could anything go wrong?
Old people know movies & TV. They still don’t understand the internet.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
My mom is in her 80’s and she loves the internet and is horrified by SOPA/PIPA. Not all old people are alike, strangely enough.
2012 is going to be awesome!
and almost being an old people I take offense to that remark!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
This line is where I belong
C’mon Troy..respect your elders
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Absolutely true.
Nor do many young people have a grasp on it.
But in general, the next generation of technology is going to be embraced, studied, and understood by the next generation of people. And in this case, the older people who hold the power have demonstrated as a whole that they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Well, and all the idiots that run around committing crimes and posting the videos on youtube? Hello? Moran? ANYBODY CAN SEE THAT YOU KNOW!?!?!?
(Apparently those kids that beat up the other kid got caught.)
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Is it?
Consider where he came from.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I haven’t really heard a peep about him since he got elected.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The Pat Tillman depositions were pretty interesting.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
And good for them. I'm not going to play the partisan game as most of the time both sides suck anyway
This
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
And good for them. I’m not going to play the partisan game as most of the time both sidessuck anywayare the same
Is that what you meant ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Somewhere I came across a list of california politicos and their stance on the bills….AND a break down of where their campaign $$ came from. I got bored with it after awhile but it sure looked like many politicians who received $$ from, say, tech companies were against sopa/pipa and those that received $$ from entertainment type companies were for it … hmmmmmmmmm……..
[Your results may vary]
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Shocking!
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
The dumbest thing about this is that
it is really the result of an industry that failed to live in the 21st century. Record companies were screaming about piracy because they want to sell CDs. Itunes changed the marketplace and views completely. Most people will pay a little bit to get what they want.
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Failure to adjust to the current era or address it properly is no fault of the consumer.
Piracy is a problem but not as big of a problem as people would have you believe.
The record companies are crying poor, but there’s little evidence to suggest that they’ve seen any downturn in overall revenue. And they’re already screwing the artists anyway.
Studies have suggested that the losses from piracy are almost entirely offset by the exposure resultant from the free spread of information. And that’s even while the big corporate dinosaurs are too stupid to establish a model that actually takes advantage of the modern infrastructure.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
My favorite musician (whom I do some work for free for) has experienced a renaissance because of the net
And asks everyone to download his discography
That said
The indie labels really need to evolve beyond iTunes to a platform of their own. Guys who are trying to make it get tragically poor returns from album sales on iTunes, even with the broadened exposure. I try to buy albums in person from them when I can help it, or go through their website.
Coldplay though? Yeah, no qualms about your 30 cents on the dollar.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
360 Deals, mainly
Which is harsh, and that’s why many artists now sign distribution deals, own the material and the march themselves, and let the management company, rather than the label take the brunt of it.
Yeah. Last show I went to for my indie artist of choice (Tony Lucca, currently touring under Rock Ridge Music’s TFDI amalgamation), they were running all their transactions over the table, and were taking credit card payments via SquareUp. The technology has really caught up with the darker corners of the industry, but exposure remains the biggest hurdle. Unless you want to degrade yourself on “American Idol.”
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
MySpace music was doing good things.
Despite the abysmal degree of UI abuse. But now, Tom is on Google+! LOL MYSPACE
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
i’ve BARELY used Google+ anybody else really use it?
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I keep a profile, but mostly to follow updates on my friend’s post-apocalyptic web-based graphic novel.
Oh, and get cat pictures linked to me.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
huh
so it’s kinda useful? Unfortunately not many of my friends really use it, and Cap M, agreed, hangouts look pretty sweet, but nobody ever uses it out of my friends
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
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the more friends you have on it, the more fun
so yea, that’s probably why i’m not on it really
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I really like it a lot, though admittedly a good chunk of that is the not-Facebook aspect. That said, as much as I like G+’s layout and infrastructure, as a social network, it’s only as good as the amount of people on it, and almost none of my friends are.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
I am hoping Diaspora will get people out from under Facebook.
Zuckerberg is getting pretty seedy.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I finally got an invite and… well, it won’t be taking any business from anyone, the way it was laid out. I’ll check again tomorrow (it’s blacked out today, too).
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
That is disappointing to hear, as I’m big a big supporter of open-source projects and alternatives.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah. I was really looking forward to it. But it seemed to move SOOOOOOO slow, and G+ beat them to market, which couldn’t have helped.
I actually don’t remember what, specifically, bothered me so much. Just that I was massively disappointed.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
exactly
if there were more of my friends on it, i’d like it a little bit more and i would start to hangout on it more. But for me it’s all Facebook and that’s it
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Yup. There’s where I got my Marian Call stuff. I like how it allows indie artists to make a bit off their stuff.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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by can of corn on Jan 18, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I think my friend may write for Bandcamp.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
i'm gonna have to check out bandcamp
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it's what I and my buddies use. Plus Kickstarter and all kinds of other great things
There’s no one size fits all solution anymore, but using everything together, you can do some tremendous stuff.
you can preview songs there too, right? or is that what it is basically
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
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You can, you can also set up full downloads for full songs
sell your album there entirely, etc.
Not trying to advertise, but this is literally my roommate’s band’s last release to give you an idea. Be forewarned, loud angry people yelling at you ahead.
ontogeny.bandcamp.com
create your own design and background, and all that too, preview the songs, buy the songs, it’s like itunes basically?
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Now that is pretty sweet
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I sure think so.
I also like the option to pick whatever file format is your choosing as well as having a place where you can sell physical copies if that’s your thing.
I’m making some fringe musical projects to go with a video project, and it’s just nice to have a place to have a home base for these.
File format? like what you mean?
Definitely like these sites to just share your passion and hobby, i mean, just get your music out there and see if others like it and enjoy it. And yea, it’s pretty damn encouraging it sounds
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got ya. that's sweet
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
You could pick MP3, or you could other formats that have better quality if they are uploaded as such.
It’s like choosing to watch a YouTube video in 360p, 480p, 720p, or 1080p, but more sophisticated and it’s downloaded rather than streamed.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Here's some saccharine music
if scary angry men are scary and angry. I personally feel like it sounds like music that’s trying to get laid but will fail miserably, but hey, less offensive to the ears for some.
Delorean’s band was taking credit cards at the merch table when I saw them last. Not sure what technology they were using, but it was the 1st time I had seen it.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
It's a model issue
Record companies made a lot of money selling albums…resulting in the buyer getting one or two good songs and 10 crappy ones.
People don’t want 12 songs, they just want the one that they like
Also, record companies got cut out because they were too late to innovate. Apple takes a bulk of the profits from itunes.
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The same kind of shit is happening with books, which I can’t fathom because anybody can read stuff for free from the library.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Remember that the copyright moguls
have, before this, tried to shut down DVR, VCR, CD-burning, mixtapes, and the photocopier.
Every time they have claimed it would destroy the industry. And every time they still have wads of money coming out their ass ten years down the road.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
To invest wisely
on blow, satin jackets and hookers.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
I read this
as Satan jackets.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I think the biggest fear that studios have is that people can bypass them completely. This is really not as much issue for movies as it is for music though.
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And to that I say, people who sold horse pulled carriages lost a lot of business too. If you want to stay in business, keep providing a service that people want/need. You shouldn’t be able to pass laws to make you needed.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Change is now against the law!
Hope up next!
We’re coming for YOU, 2008 Obama Campaign!
#fightingyesterday’sbattlestoday
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
ha ha not in Sacramento.
You want a current book? You must RENT it.
Or at least you used to…they pissed me off one time too many and I don’t go there anymore.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
They also have a great money making strategy of LOSING EVERY BOOK YOU EVER BORROW FROM THEM AND CHARGING YOU FOR IT. Even after you repeatedly drag the librarian to the shelf and SHOW HER THE FUCKING BOOK SITTING RIGHT THERE ON THE FUCKING SHELF!!
“Oh we’ll take care of that right away, I’m so sorry.”
Yeah… two weeks later another bill for the same freaking book.
I think you may have to pay to renew your library card too.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
What’s a library?
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
I guess people go there to read literature?
from things called BOOKS? WHAT IS THIS NOISE
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A government supported “entitlement” that provides books and information that may be subversive. People could learn. If “those” people want books they should get a job. This culture of entitlement needs to stop !!
Seriously though, Stop fucking with the libraries.
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Yes
Save that for the librarians.
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Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
And a Gentleman?
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
Which is really too bad, because this is the final nail in the coffin for concept albums.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Not everybody listens to albums where only one or two songs of 12 are good.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
That's hardly an accurate or fair description of the album, though.
despite what CalBear said.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
I mean "the album" as an idea, not any one in particular.
CB’s implication was that the album only exists to force people to buy 10 bad songs to get two good ones, when there are obviously zillions of examples otherwise.
But you are correct that the albums where that IS the case do not get a lot of spins.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
But it is more about choice
if someone puts out a great album (concept or not), people will buy it. The problem is that most albums (especially pop albums) are about having that one or two megahits.
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Not always true. I think I could see myself listening to Foster the People more than a few years down the line.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Bold prediction: Most pop fans will not be listening to Foster the People six months from now.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Bold Prediction: I may kill somebody if I hear another LMFAO song in the next 5 minutes.
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by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
EVERYDAY I'M SMOTHERIN'
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
BOLD PREDICTION
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Easy solution: avoid those “artists” until they write/perform 10 more good songs. Unless their 15 minutes is up first, in which case avoid them altogether.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
On the other hand
..there is nothing so delicious as a one-hit wonder.
Or someone like the Zombies, with a great career overshadowed by two massive, bookend hits.
Man, the Zombies were good.
So I’ve finally gotten around to Odessey and Oracle and I’m not digging it. At all. What’s the allure?
huh
Er.. um.. er.. it’s a dandy little ’60s orchestral pop record. I could listen to it all day long.
Er.. um.. er.. it’s a dandy little ’60s orchestral pop record. I could listen to it all day long.Is that just not your genre? If the Left banke gives you hives, I could see disliking it.
Never listened to the Left Banke either!
’60s orchestral pop records are definitely not my bag. That said, I like Sgt Pepper and Pet Sounds just fine and I was expecting something on that level.
I recall Grant writing about this recording a few years ago. Not sure if I’m up to being frustrated by SBN’s worth search functionality though…
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
The Zombies – Odessey and Oracle
When I was really, really serious about my pop — when I could bore a first date with Elephant 6 factoids like few other nerds could — this album was an import-only dealie, which usually ran around $30. Since I was a broke college student before the days of Napster, I could never pull the trigger on this CD. It was supposed to be the bestest pop album ever, but it was the same price as three used CDs.
I forgot about it until this year, for some reason. Downloaded it from eMusic, and my mind has been blown ever since. It’s just as complete and well-crafted as Pet Sounds and Sgt. Pepper’s.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Of that era (although not of that style), my favorite "forgotten album " so far is
Love – Forever Changes.
Although The Zombies – Odessey and Oracle is pretty good (and very skilled)
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
I would hardly call Forever Changes ‘forgotten’ — it’s a touchstone. ‘Forgotten’ is hard to do with good ’60s records. Anything decent from that era has become a totem to someone.
Good LP, and not among the big names, that’s true. But jeepers, even the 50 Foot Hose record is considered seminal these days, and that one sold so poorly that nearly every copy I have seen is a promo copy.
Truth.
I tend to like albums that are more of a concept as a whole. But if basically “singles” exist in the form that they do now, why not just abandon the concept of an album altogether if it doesn’t fit your outlook? Include like 3 bonus tracks with your single, and get into a different mindset about what to charge.
iTunes needs to however, get the eff out of the business of charging $0.99 for interstitials and intros.
Word.
I think EPs are kind of under-utilized, tbh. Microtransactions and bundled microtransactions will make bank.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I like this.
Then, maybe put together your 3 EPs that you did in the year as an album at a lower price at the end of the year. Pull out the greatest hits excuse, and include a bonus track for free if you buy the whole thing, or sell that as a single itself.
The problem is people just are risk averse and not creative in the least when it comes to selling things.
Look at what the game industry – the most profitable entertainment industry in the country – is doing with DLC, pre-order bonuses, and cosmetic bonuses and crap like that. They’re making bank, that’s what they’re doing.
Jason Mraz actually did something interesting for his last album, “We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things.” On iTunes in advance of its release, he released three EPs – predictably titled “We Sing,” “We Dance,” and “We Steal Things.” These included alternate studio versions of tracks from the album, and their purchase worked towards reducing the total cost of the album when it came out. All the albums had coordinated cover art as well, so they were effectively parts of a complete set. They also gave advance promotion of the final product that was much more comprehensive than “HERE IS MY FIRST SINGLE, UNWASHED MASSES! BEHOLD MY DOMINATION OF VH1!”
After the album’s release, he also marketed the ever-loving crap out of “I’m Yours,” including a full album of covers available through iTunes. The album itself was almost tertiary to the marketing strategy. It was pretty awesome.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I vaguely remember this.
It’s not unheard of, and certainly smaller acts tend to get more creative with this kinda stuff. Devin Townsend included half of an upcoming album with a preorder of two that were released on the same day (dude needs to slow the eff down) and will have the second half included with the one due this year. Then a physical copy from his store for the nerds like me that need to be completionists.
I used to always buy singles on tape. I distinctly remember picking up Last Dance With Mary Jane and Gin and Juice at the same time.
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My last 10 physical CD purchases
were for my Kareoke machine
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BUY MOAR ALBUMS AND HELP MY FRIEND, SATYRICRASH!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
VCRs = DOOOOOM!
Cassette tapes = DOOOOOM!
CD-Rs = DOOOOOM!
Internet = DOOOOOM!
America’s entertainment industry: Fighting yesterday’s battles today!
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah, and photocopiers.
And if you go back far enough, the gramophone was bitched about, too. Folks hate change!
(IN AFTR SOLIDARITY)
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
/hi5
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
78s sound the best.
Now get off that area that will be a lawn after grass is invented
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
even if i called, nobody would care
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i'm gonna sit outside, enjoy the sunshine, sip on some coffee... screw it all
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I'm sorry to be harsh
But I’m tired of cynicism and apathy. It accomplishes nothing, and even if what I’ve done today ultimately accomplishes nothing, at least I tried.
Trying>nothing to be honest
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better to act than to do absolutely nothing in general
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'Tis better to have loved and lost...
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
no love lost
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Damn, Seattle is legit snowy today
I mean, it’s not a blizzard or anything, but considering how unprepared this city is for snow it might as well be.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 18, 2012 8:41 AM PST reply actions
All I know is that the Sierra Nevadas need to get some serious snow and catch up otherwise my family in the Washoe Valley are gonna be thirsty this summer.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
LOL Phillies
Cole Hamels now owns the second-largest salary in arbitration history ($15MM), and he’s not stopping there. Agent John Boggs expects his client to be compensated as an “elite pitcher,” and he doesn’t consider Jered Weaver’s team-friendly five-year, $85MM deal a factor. Explained Boggs to Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com:
“I don’t think it’s a parallel. That contract is great for Jered. I understand it. But he took a different path and left a lot of money on the table. He came up through the Angels system and grew up in their backyard. He’s pitching where he grew up. That situation appeals to him. It’s a similar situation to when I had Tony Gwynn. Without getting into specifics of what we’re looking for, the Weaver situation is unique to Weaver.”
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SELFISH! DOESN"T MATTER THEY HAVE BLANTON COMING BACK AND HE WAS AN ACE BEFORE!!!!!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe Hamels can continue in a proud tradition of sucking for the Yankees.
Pool of dicks.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I was reading The Argyle Wonder's piece
about the Timmeh situation and thinking, “gee, Sullivan sure has written about the Giants a lot lately. I wonder if Grant will start doing in-depth coverage of the Mariners.”
And then I got to the comments.
LOL
Well played, overlord.
I wanted to note my amusement over there, but adding additional comments to that chain would be like trampling through the beauty a pristine field of new-fallen snow.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Amazing.
We could rec them all.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
So it is rec'ned.
So shall it be done.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Holy crap, Chone Figgins. I had no idea how bad he was.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 18, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, they also have almost 200 PAs to somebody with a 21 OPS+.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
Done
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
It’s odd how the “Oh God” comment has 3 recs more than the others.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Sullivan is good at making Grant say “Oh God”.
/awaits gunt
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by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
It's just Sullivan's way
preparing when Lincecum signs with the Mariners.
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It’s kind of messed up how Sullivan stole it from Grant. Grant really has no interesting Mariner news to steal from Sullivan.
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by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Prince Fielder alert!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Are we watching a blogging sword wagging or did someone lose a bet to someone?
Sullivan in the last few weeks wrote on Bonds, Timmy and Timmy.
Grant wrote on Pineda.
What next? Grant writes on how Edgar should be in the Hall on BtB ?
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Remind me why he's not Jason Christian again?
Giants executive Bobby Evans told John Shea of The San Francisco Chronicle that the team’s five starters are in place (Twitter link). Evans also mentioned Gregor Blanco as possible outfield depth.
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I really think Belt is going to be at 1B and Huff in the OF.
Melky, Pagan, Huff, Nate, 5th OF
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Funny?
Funny how? What’s funny about it?
You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it’s me, I’m a little fucked up maybe, but I’m funny how, I mean funny like I’m a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I’m here to fuckin’ amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
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by CalBear949 on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
DAT'S IT
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
LOL
/faceglassed
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Well, you are kind of a humorous sort, but I think the odds of Belt at first over Huff are laughably low.
Why
The Giants already said they want Belt to play 1B.
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Nah
As I said, Bochy was also the one who sat Rowand for most of the 2nd half of 2010.
Also, Sabean will force Bochy’s hand.
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I can’t blame some people for being in a “I’ll believe it when I see it” mindset, but yeah, there’s some measure of selection bias going on in the face of insistence by the FO that Huff must be ready to play the OF in 2012.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Bochy was also the guy who unrelentingly played Huff over all other alternatives in 2011. I’m thinking Bochy considers that first base is Huff’s job to lose… to Brett Pill.
Huff played a lot because he was the only viable alternative at 1B for a while.
Belt played a lot after mid-August.
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Huff played a lot because he was the only viable alternative at 1B for a while.
The month of June. That’s it.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
And May.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
and
most of July.
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He was off the DL July 8th. You’d have to give him 7 days of rehab assignments in Fresno to hit half of July.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
2011 HR factor for Busch Stadium
0.774
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Posey went down on May 25th. Belt got called up on May 26th. I believe he broke his wrist on May 28th. Huff hit the three HRs on June 2nd.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
He was injured May 31st. So, I guess, for a few hours in May.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
He was in Fresno until Posey was injured.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
But didn’t he get called up for something else? Because I remember him walking in to the clubhouse with his luggage as Posey went by on a cart.
2012 is going to be awesome!
If you look at the season
Huff had two good months:
June: .291/.327/.466
August: .255 /.324/.426
He was awful in April (while Belt was still around) and July (with Belt being recalled on 7/19). Beginning in mid-August, Belt was playing a lot and Huff played very little in September.
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His June wasn't even that good for a first baseman
And the rest of his months were shit.
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
And we had no other first basemen on the roster for half the season.
Thus there being no viable alternatives.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
You can’t say that Belt raking in AAA isn’t a viable alternative.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
I can respect an argument that he should have had Ford’s roster spot, but it’s a 25-man roster.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Or Burriss'. Whichever.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
MI
Freaking Bill Hall got hurt.
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I thought we picked up Bill Hall after Freddy got injured. Which was after Belt broke his wrist.
All the same, I can respect doubts about roster constructions. I just think it’s important to recognize that you have to give something to get something, which was in fact in issue in Belt’s case because he wasn’t on the 25-man roster.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
You realize that Belt realistically lost only 100 PAs to Huff, right? He was in Fresno for a month, and on the DL for six weeks.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Not really my point, but, sure. I’m not arguing that Belt won’t play, I just think it’s a major uphill battle against Bochy for him to log a majority of his time at 1B.
TBF
They were out of OF by the end of the year.
Pill could only play 1B.
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Whoever hits will play. It’s a dumb way of running things, but if people believe Huff is finished, then they should Belt will get his playing time presuming he isn’t a bust.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
If Huff and Belt are both doing well
Nate will be the odd person out.
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Yup.
It’s hard to believe he was a second-round pick.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
My hunch is that the outfield will wind up being Huff/Belt-Pagan-Nate with the one not playing LF fixed at first base.
But the way people feel about Huff, I feel about Melky.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
If Huff is in 2012 form and Belt is hitting, I’d be happy with that outfield, too. The Melky factor really screws with it though – if Bochy decides Belt is “Not aggressive at the plate™”, bye-bye Brandon
It’s not about aggressiveness…it’s about passivity. Yes, there is a difference.
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aggressive
antonyms: passive
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I should clarify
Belt locked up a lot at the plate. He would watch a lot of close pitches and be down in the count.
He also locked up on inside pitches. I think he got a lot better at season’s end.
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I think it’s not being cruel to say that he needed to make adjustments. He was getting a lot of called strike threes, and whiffing over a lot of change-ups. In time he’ll get a bit more benefit of the doubt with umpires, but in the short term I think it would help him to at least protect a bit more with two strikes. He’s a good enough hitter that he shouldn’t need to count on walks to be productive.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Sorry that this is stating the obvious, but:
With less than two strikes he should be watching close pitches. The willingness to let close pitches go early in the count is how you get into advantageous counts.
Passivity only becomes a problem when you are letting drivable pitches go by or have two strikes.
by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Wait, weren’t you the one contradicting me yesterday when I mentioned that they did say that Belt would play first?
2012 is going to be awesome!
Definitely not me. I totally believe Belt will play 1B and play a lot.
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GREGOR IS WHITE!?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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I like Blanco Chili.
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yeah
chicken noodle soup for lunch.
Thanks for asking.
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Yup...courtcall
It was bad for about 2-3 hours…pretty much recovered by bedtime.
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Drink a lot today
/500 post subthread on what CB# should order to drink
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
pompomegranate juice
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
That is nasty disgusting awful shit.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
by can of corn on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
I like it. Redbull and Jager is good too.
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I'm 30 years old!
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It was popular when I was in high school. I wouldn’t touch it now.
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by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
TWSS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Awwwww. Poor Lars. :P
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by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Drink the water & electrolytes with sugar; it helps your body absorb them.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Propel is a good one.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Golden Gate Beer Bars | Tweetybox
by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Marlon Brando?
That’s a lot to drink.
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2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Sly Water and Trump Ice are also great/
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Something similarly-named is what plants crave!
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
Golden Gate Beer Bars | Tweetybox
by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
that's good!
much better than last night
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This is Gregor Blanco:
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Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
Because he's Justin Christian.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Winn was good friends with Steve Nash, no?
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Yeah
They were teammates at Santa Clara
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
/Vin Scully’d
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
Farmer John's! Mmm-mmm, good.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Yea... why did they say Steve Kerr?
I've got 99 problems and the Boch is one
by milesntrane on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
All white people look the same.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Counter
All white people are named Steve
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Hi, I'm Larry and this is my brother Steve, and my other brother Steve.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
John Shea: Arbitration - Charlie Finley's fears realized
Summary: “With all these high arbitration salaries, how will baseball owners make a profit!?”
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
It's probably why
the values of baseball franchises keep plummeting.
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously, though, inflation of salaries is pretty out of control right now.
Like I said last week, in 1998 Barry Bonds was the highest-paid player in the sport at just under $9M a year. I’m all for raising the league minimum, but the numbers pacing the top end are frankly ridiculous.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Yeah, but I’d rather the players get paid than the FO. They’re the one who’ll have bad knees or whatever the rest of their lives.
2012 is going to be awesome!
I’d rather that the best guys make $15M and the worst guys make $1M than the best guys make $25M and the worst guys make $500K.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I just found this:
The Dollar’s Purchasing Power Has Dropped 27% Since 1998
From an article last year.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
This too:
Based on financial information provided by Major League Baseball, gross revenues have grown from $1.4 billion in 1995 to $7 billion in 2010, or a 400% increase. When accounting for inflation, the league still sees phenomenal growth at a 254% increase.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
I would wonder how that scales relative to ticket prices, though I am guessing that much of it has to do with television deals.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
That’s going to take some time to read!
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Peter from family guy tried that
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Last time I was at my parents' house
I grabbed Vol 1 of my old Carl Barks Library. Gonna re-read it, since I haven’t since I was like 9.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
For a second there, I thought you meant this guy:

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I love this quote
The moves were described as an “abuse of power” by one of the highest profile supporters of the anti-piracy bills.
“Some technology business interests are resorting to stunts that punish their users or turn them into their corporate pawns, rather than coming to the table to find solutions to a problem that all now seem to agree is very real and damaging,” said former Senator Chris Dodd, the chairman of the Motion Picture Association of America.
The hypocrisy is quite delicious.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16612628
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Woah, Dodd is now head of the MPAA?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Here’s a good piece on Dodd.
"No lobbying, no lobbying," Dodd said in a recent interview. That Dodd would forgo a trip through Washington’s "revolving door," using his policy and political expertise–and a thick Rolodex–to launch a new career in the influence industry, may come as a surprise.
He then did the exact opposite of that.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Yeah, but he now gets escorted through the Oscars with as many hollywood hotties as he wants.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
and the swag bags!
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Is that what we're calling Hollywood hotties now?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
Pool. Of. Dicks.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I loved Randy Winn.
At the ASG Fan Fest, I tried on his batting gloves. They fit! Bonds’ were gigantic, tho.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Best jersey i ever bought, a Randy Winn jersey
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Did anyone watch Inside the Clubhouse last night?
OMG, Susac’s pretty is worth at least 5 Crawfords with maybe a Burriss thrown in.
2012 is going to be awesome!
all the rookies on there>>>>>>>Burriss+Crawford
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Anyone know if this can be viewed online? Perhaps without infringing on any copyrights?
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Not sure how you get TV content delivered to your home
But Comcast will usually have these On Demand after they air live.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
I do have comcast. What channel did it air on originally?
(Thanks)
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
CSNBA
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
Which also means it will probably re-air at least once this week, if not twelve more times.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
These are restricted to US viewers only, right?
I seriously need something baseball-related to look at.
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by Last Place Finnish on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Triple play day
1) I watched Randy Winn play basket ball for SC while at SMC. So that came to mind before reading down and seeing it in the article.
2) I could not remember what years Winn played, so I went to wiki it… and got SOPAd. DOH!
3) That was 3 threads ago as I finally caught up with now. Of course it is now time to go swim, so I am sure when I get back I will be 2000 comments behind again.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Totally forgot he played basketball for Santa Clara. Wow…
oh and the guy that sold us our place here in Santa Cruz caught his grand slam against the Dodgers, over in the arcade
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Holy cow that would be awesome
dodgerthoughts Jon Weisman
Exclusive: Showtime close to hooking #Marlins as ‘Franchise’ team bit.ly/wuM1eC #mlb
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Dancers! Gymnasts! Ozzie!
It’ll be like a variety show.
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 18, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
My favor segment
Esa es nuestra Handley!
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
I think they're dropping the Mermaids and Manatees, actually.
Which is sad, because who doesn’t like foxy cheerleaders / fat guys doing dance routines between innings?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Didn’t this get mentioned last week? Not ragging on you if it’s news to you, I’m just trying to remember.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
i'd be excited about this
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
The Marlins would be entertaining. And maybe there’s an injury curse on any team that becomes the subject of The Franchise.
2012 is going to be awesome!
yea definitely
Logan Morrison, Ozzie Guillen… some good characters, Zambrano? haha, yea, that’s probably exactly what might happen
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Every scene ends in a LoMo-Guillen soap opera style staredown. If not that, the home run celebration thingamabob spinning can be used as a fade. TV history will be made. Seizures will be had.
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by Last Place Finnish on Jan 18, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
49ers, Jerry Rice:
evansilva Evan Silva
Jerry Rice on Brandon Jacobs: “He’s a little bit soft. … This guy is 265 and it upsets me when I see him get tackled by a guy who’s 190.”
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
No Bulletin Board material please.
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
Giants have thrown around a ton more bulletin board material tho
haven’t seen anything from the 49ers outside of this
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Beyond cheering for NYG to beat GB, which is obviously more about a home game than a dis.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
isn’t that what Rolle was talking about? Asking about Vernon “praying” for the Giants to win?
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Yep.
When 49ers tight end Vernon Davis was watching the Giants-Packers game on Sunday, he admitted he “prayed” for the Giants to win, so the NFC championship game would be played in San Francisco.
His prayers were obviously answered. Whether or not that’s a good thing for the Niners remains to be seen.
“They better be careful what they ask for,” said safety Antrel Rolle. “Because their wish has been granted.”
Rolle, during his weekly, paid spot on WFAN, said “I can only hope he was saying that because they wanted to get a home game,” and that did appear to be the case. He wasn’t the only one praying over the weekend either. On Monday, Giants receiver Victor Cruz admitted that San Francisco’s win over the New Orleans Saints “definitely works out in our favor a little bit.”
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I mean… i dont know if that’s cocky, arrogant or what… but whatever, i reallllly don’t see the 49ers caring about what the other players have to say
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I think they are content for people to blab about New York all week. They know what they need to do.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Well… didn’t we all kinda figure, including the team that they would be talking? it’s New York, i know quite a few people from NYC and Long Island, and all they do is talk/blab
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Folks out here seem pretty clear-eyed about the challenge the Giants are facing.
I mean, they should feel confident. They’re playing great football at just the right time. But it’s impossible to ignore the fact that they already lost at Candlestick this year (or the beastliness of the Niners’ D).
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty concerned, to be honest. They’re facing an unbelievable defensive front with Tuck, Osi, JPP, Canty, Rocky Bernard?? the guy who messed up Smiths shoulder?
Also Eli had an OK game against the niners, who had one sack, and hit 3 times, basically they don’t need to blitz really, keep your Dbacks in coverage.
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
It's gonna be some old-school smashmouth footbaw out there.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
ITS GONNA RAIN!
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
KTVU this morning said they didn’t think it would rain on Sunday but it would be windy. They did say it would rain Friday and Saturday though.
WWRWD?
Well… considering if the storm on saturday moves through, and there’s another system coming in sunday night, in between storms yea, it’ll be pretty windy and chilly depending on where the storms are coming from
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
keep your Dbacks in coverage.
LOL no Arizona on Sunday Night Baseball.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
NYG needs to hurry the fuck up and lose.
So I can stop being confused when listening to KNBR and ESPN.
/IQ dropping
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I’m going to be so enraged if the Niners lose on Sunday.
I don’t even want to think about the NY Giants celebrating and taunting the Niners and it’s fans.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
I would have been pleasantly surprised if they had a winning record this season.
I’d love to see them win it all, but making it this far is a bit distanced from shameful.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Agreed
They are playing with house money now. Just don’t lose because of something stupid.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
that reminds me
/12 men in the huddle
/smith to gore to smith
WHAT?
They are in the NFC Championship Game. THE SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS, a previously moribund franchise run by inbreds and coached by blustery douchefucks has somehow turned it around in one season and are in the NFC Championship Game. This is a miracle. Be happy with what you got, which is more than anybody could reasonably expect.
Now, on the other hand, if they get to the Super Bowl and lose I’m going to riot.
by Every6thDay on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
I certainly hope they do, but if they don't
I’m probably going to think they’ll win it all next year because full offseason, Morgan will be back, OL depth will be better, more speed in defensive backfield. that great 2012 draft…
I thought to myself when the Yorks took over years ago and showed themselves to be idiots “No one on this team now, on the field or in the FO will be around when they next make it close to the superbowl” So they are a little ahead of schedule.
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
Mine’s far more base and irrational: THE 49ERS DO NOT LOSE SUPER BOWLS.
by Every6thDay on Jan 18, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
I love it.
Let’s have the Giants bullheadedly charge into the teeth of the 49ers run defense! That’ll show that mean ol’ Jerry Rice!
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Eric Branch: Niners taking note of Giants’ pregame chatter
http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/01/17/niners-taking-note-of-giants-pregame-chatter/
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
well that is interesting then
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I really don’t think that the Giants are engaging in that much trash talk. Most of what they’ve said has been reasonable, and the only slight that I saw was the quote from two months ago where Tuck said the 49ers try to keep Smith from winning the game.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
“WE ARE FROM NEW YORK. WE ARE SUPERIOR. THE ONLY PLACE WHERE I SHIT DOES STINK IS IN OUR CITY.”
by Every6thDay on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
When I think of Brandon Jacobs, I think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v330iK2rqFw
Final score:
Saints: 49 Giants: 24
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
at 265 pounds, you should be doing that all the time
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Exactly.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
600K
TUESDAY, 9:30pm: The Astros have agreed to sign Jack Cust, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets. It’s a one-year deal with a club option for 2013, Zachary Levine of the Houston Chronicle tweets. TWC Sports represents the corner outfielder/DH.
Cust, 33, averaged 28 homers and 103 walks with the A’s from 2007-09, but his power numbers have since fallen off. If he regains his form in Houston, he could DH for the Astros in 2013, when the team moves to the American League West. Cust, who has a career UZR/150 of -22.4 as an outfielder, figures to pinch hit and play left and right in 2012.
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Jon Morosi @jonmorosi Close
Source: #Rangers, Yu Darvish now “close” to reaching deal.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
80 million
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7 years $126 Million
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Pffft. Who would offer a pitcher a deal that stupid?
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 18, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
/thatsthejoke.jpg
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
I got tired of the McBain one.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
REFERRAL DENIED
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
Huh.
It showed up for me until I refreshed the page.
Anyway, here.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Barry Zito gave himself the contract!
It all makes sense now. I mean, no way Brian Sabean and Peter Magowan were dumb.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
His face looks sad
It is like he is thought-apologizing to the baseball as he throws it. “I’m sorry, baseball! You are about to get hit really hard!”
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
6 years 100 million. Heavily back loaded with an opt out clause for each side after 3 or 4 years.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Story about Candlestick on SI.com, i did not know this
In 1960, the first pitch of the first Giants’ game there was thrown out by Richard Nixon.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/steve_rushin/01/18/candlestick/index.html#ixzz1jppSqz4P
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Have we marveled yet at Randy Winn's greatest season as a Giant?
I.e. his first two month stint with the team where he put up 3.9 bWAR in 58 games? .359/.391/.680 with 14 HR, 22 2B, 5 3B. 41 of 83 hits for extra bases. In 247 PA.
He’s my “best case scenario” for any deadline deal. Obviously, if Beltran had just Winn’ed it up after we got him, the Giants would’ve done what it took to keep him. It’s his own fault, really.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
yeah, well, look what that 2-month Winn stint did for us (subsequently)
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Gave us an awesome two months of baseball, and then helped keep a fun player around for several years? Yeah, that was lame.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
if there were productive players around him during that time
could’ve been awesome. He went on a roll towards the end of that season
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Imagine if the team had managed to regularly put out a lineup of Winn, Vizquel, Bonds, Alou, Durham, Snow, Feliz, and Matheny. It wouldn’t have been dominant, but it would have been surprisingly unhorrible.
It’s weird how palatable JT’s .275/.343./.365 line is now. .343 OBP from first base? Heck yeah!
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
It would've been acceptable
Have a good pitching staff and this lineup would’ve basically kept you in it every game, it’s a productive offense
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Plus, Noah Lowry: Staff Ace! I had forgotten he outperformed everybody else on the staff that year. 172 K in 204 IP!
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
god dammit, Noah :(
I remember one game he threw a complete game against the Reds? I was in Detroit, keeping up on the game, gonna look that up now
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That was his first major league win and complete game. Barry hit two homers in that game, and the second was part of back-to-back-back HRs by Snow, Bonds, and Feliz. I was there!
yep, that's it!
here it is: http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-08-04/sports/17438530_1_big-league-two-doubles-hit
Must’ve been a pretty awesome game to be at, and i didn’t know that was his first win ever
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Leave it to Randy Winn
to leave the Giants after 2009, sign with the Cardinals in 2010, get picked up by the Yankees, and still fail to make it to the playoffs.
Poor guy.
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
He’s the anti Kenny Lofton Orlando Cabrera!!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Jason Marquis, too!
/brokenleg.gif
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
“I can’t import a file” is not an adequate report of an application problem. Why can’t you? What happens when you try? Are there error messages associated with not being able to? ARE HUGE FUCKING RAVENS PECKING AT YOUR EYEBALLS WHENVER YOU TRY TO IMPORT THE FILE?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe you lost the telemetry.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
I try to import file
I cannot import file.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Ah, well that explains it.
I am just going to assume that the ravens explanation was the correct one and tell you to find a big net.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
/rec'd
worthless users are worthless
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Due to laziness/incompetence, I cannot import a file. Please fix me/it.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Try loving it to a different drive.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Haha!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Resolution:
Not entering the incorrect name in the search field. One of my nerdlings is about to rampage.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
It looks like the outrage is having some impact
Three co-sponsors of the SOPA and PIPA antipiracy bills have publicly withdrawn their support as Wikipedia and thousands of other websites blacked out their pages Wednesday to protest the legislation.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 10:57 AM PST reply actions
NEED MOAR
"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong
GOOD
hankschulman Henry Schulman
ESPN has scheduled 10 of its Sunday Night games for ’12. Yankees on 3 times, Red Sox, champion Cards & Pujolses twice, your SF Giants nonce.
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Good. Baseball should be played in the day (read: Fuck you Fox Saturday).
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Why doesn’t ESPN just go have sex with the east coast!?
/not sure if they already have
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
They're too tired
after sexytime with the SEC
by AztecsKillingHim on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
This
Kruk+Kuip> any national broadcast
Blerg
by Myemail21479 on Jan 18, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Best thing Schulman ever wrote
nonce
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Whoa, looks like stained glass.
Is Randy Winn a saint?
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
NYPD Wants to Stop and Frisk from a Distance
Point/Counterpoint:
The NYCLU says what you’d expect.
vs
The retired NYPD detective says:
If one believes that detecting a weapon or even a possible weapon on someone from a distance is an invasion of their freedoms or civil liberties, too bad. In this case as in many, the ends justify the means.
In other words, Snowball says some animals are more equal than others.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM PST reply actions
The anti-TSA
HELLO, MR. NYPD! PLEASE TOUCH MY JUNK!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Let’s just give them the right to shoot people.
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Appearance in Monterey tomorrow
lunch suggestion?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Me either. I haven’t gone down to our house in Carmel since back in college. :( Couple easy places in Carmel, are the Little Swiss Cafe, and Piatti’s, Carmel Bakery. That’s what I can think of off of the top of my head. For Monterrey Mundo’s Cafe is all I can think of right now.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
My lunch
Had my tooth pulled today. Have to eat cold, soft things. Carrot cake & ice cream.
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
Day off of work, laughing gas, carrot cake, and now butted pecan ice cream. This day is awesome!
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
What kind of food do you want?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll be driving down from San Jose so something quick.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Mundo’s Cafe
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
thanks
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I think they’re are protected.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
mmmm abalone
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Live off the fatta da land!
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Clanky
Crashy
Classy
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Nicole Richie?
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
GOOOD GOOD
Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 51m
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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details My understanding is that Eli Manning has been sent home for the day, which makes sense, given how those things can spread.
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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details Coughlin said Eli started but didn’t finish. Hoping it’s just a 24-hour stomach bug. #nyg
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Counterpoint:
Jordan’s 63 at the Garden.
Counterpoint to my counterpoint:
LOL! Eli Manning is hardly Michael fucking Jordan, you jackass.
11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi
by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 18, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
The pale mare!
Ron Washington really Britta'd that Series.
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
I had a dream last night that I was gliding down a river on an inner tube, located within a resort in China. I was given an address and told that Bruce Bochy lived there and he wanted to talk to me. The river was lined with resorty apartments.
I accidentally rode the inner tube too long and almost got swept out to sea.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Now we will never know what Bochy had to say.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Roto was getting sent down. Didn’t perform well in a SSS
Giants Baseball: Hope like hell™
Proud father of the man in charge of taking your hard-earned cash.
/sent down to the Akron Aeros
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Gotta pay your dues
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
You were actually Belt in your dream
And you were about to be swept out to Fresno.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
No wonder I kept crying and people kept offering me cans of beer.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Maybe Belt didn’t acccept the beer because he has standards and wasn’t about to drink a crappy can of Bud.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
He prefers a bourbon-barrel aged stout brewed with lactobacillus bacteria and cocoa nibs.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Now I am thirsty.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
A brewery an hour or so from here brews a stout with that civet-shit coffee. It is rich and delicious.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Have you tried anything from Heretic Brewing? Also civet-shit?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Nope, it’s not available on this side of the country. I’d love to try it.
It’s that coffee in which civets (a weasel like animal) eat the beans and then poop them out, and the digestive enzymes make the coffee really delicious. It’s, like, the most expensive coffee in the world, and these folks make a coffee stout out of it.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Even though it is made with shit, it still sounds really good.
Have you tired Dogfish Head Chicory stout?
Heretic’s Evil twin is sooo good. I buy it whenever I get back to the Bay Area.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Chicory stout is just decent, IMO. I find the burnt flavor to a be a bit off-putting, so it’s not one of my ultimate faves. I prefer a smoother stout.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I’ll shave for you next time, baby.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Scientology Magazine uncovered.
http://www.vice.com/read/international-scientology-news
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 11:38 AM PST reply actions
Mind blown.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
B/C vice has a NSFW section. I can assure you its not
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Rule 34'd
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Huh
Batting Stance Guy writes for SBN. http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/1/18/2714910/batting-stance-guy-craig-counsell
Speaking of Winn, the Counsell stance on the left (least wacky) resembles Dwight’s stance.
by non sequitur on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
LOL

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
He is outside of the batter’s box.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Are the puns killing Yu guys yet?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Holy shit Adam Rubin laid the smackdown the Mets medical team
One person begged me not to write Ike may have fracture as 2nd test approached. Turned out cartilage damage, not fracture, was missed.
• Doctors advised J.J. Putz to have bone chips removed from elbow, which would’ve cost 6 weeks. Mets said shoot him w/ cortisone. He tore UCL.
• Ryan Church says to Brian Schneider, ‘Your knee looks swollen. Go see trainer.’ Schneider to Church: ‘They don’t want to hear it.’
• Mets exec calling Billy Wagner a wimp for complaining of elbow discomfort during sim game in Pittsburgh. Wagner needed Tommy John surgery.
• Still haven’t figured out rocket scientist behind having Jose Reyes bat righty vs. RHP after oblique injury. Injury lingered whole 2nd half.
• Thanks for reminding me about Ryan Church flying from Atlanta to Colorado with concussion. He said he felt like boater bobbing on Bering Sea
• Found oldie: Early in Reyes career, Mets wanted him tougher. They had Art Howe tell him “spit on it” to injury. Had undiagnosed fibula break
This was all put out there because of an Alderson quote about Davis injury
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Hey Roto in your dream did feel like
Ryan Church flying from Atlanta to Colorado with concussion. He said he felt like boater bobbing on Bering Sea
Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006
People kept telling me to rub some dirt in it.
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
Reminds me of a fantastic young Giants stud whose career was cut short by an inept training staff, but I have trouble recalling his name...
NOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Had breakfast with him and his family in Boston in 2007
Dad: Super Cool
Sister: Super Cool
Noah: Super Cool
I come from Lowrys…his Dad and my Dad talked for awhile and we’re probably related. I loveded him.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Wow. Better hope they have good malpractice insurance.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
This makes me feel better about keeping Reyes for my POKEMONZ next year.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
I assume this is parody
SYSTEM1992 Kirastin Spence
by herpderpedia
if this SOFA bill past we cant use Wikipedia, I passed some high school papers with wikipedia.
3 hours ago
READ THE GOD DAMN STATEMENT ON THE GODDAMN SITE THAT IS DOWN!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
From these things you would almost have expected to find a blank screen when you went to wiki.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m assuming most are fake, but some have to be real. And I don’t understand going to a page, seeing an explanation as to why it is down, and then going on to the twitter for said page and asking.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I’m assuming some are fake and most are real but hey.
by chilibean_3 on Jan 18, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
I know exactly what it is. They go to the site see the page they want get covered and freakout.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Makes an interesting point about the reading comprehension of the internet generation.
Teaching to tests, scattered sources of information, and people not thinking for themselves.
Spooky as shit. Ronnie James Dio would be sad.
OT LOLZ
I didn’t even have a life jacket because I had given it to one of the passengers. I was trying to get people to get into the boats in an orderly fashion. Suddenly, since the ship was at a 60- 70-degree angle, I tripped and I ended up in one of the boats. That’s how I found myself in the lifeboat.
This is pretty funny
The captain did admit grounding the ship while trying to impress residents of an island off the coast of Tuscany with his luxurious $450 million vessel. The Guardian reported that the ship veered off course in order to give "a salute to a retired captain" who lives on the isle. But Schettino maintained that hitting the reef so close to shore saved lives.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I used to be an adventurer like you, then I tripped and fell into a lifeboat.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I used to be a captain, until I took an arrow to the knee and feel into a lifeboat.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Then somebody stole my sweet roll.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
"I could have single-handedly won the war on terrorism if I hadn't tripped and fell into a lifeboat"
Bold Prediction: Pablo Sandoval finishes 1st or 2nd in 2012 NL MVP voting. I'm Twittering now (well maybe not literally now): @GoofusMcP
De Falco:
“YOU FELL OFF OF THE SHIP? YOU FELL OFF OF THE FUCKING SHIP?!?”
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
VELEZ WATCH
@JohnSheaHey
John Shea
#SFGiants INF Eugenio Velez will be a non-roster spring training invitee with the Cardinals.
15 minutes ago via web
by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 18, 2012 12:30 PM PST reply actions
Rob Lowe just broke the news that Peyton Manning is retiring
Literally
The most delightful ecumenical contradiction in nomenclature.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Seriously? Peyton is done?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
LITERALLY
Rob Lowe @RobLowe
Hearing my fave, #18 Peyton Manning will not return to #NFL. Wow. #Colts
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
If he was an ice cream flavor, he’d be pralines and dick.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Doesn't seem like he's trying to be an asshole
Rob Lowe RobLowe 24mricheisen My people are saying Manning will retire today. What do you hear? #NFL
Rob Lowe @RobLowe 17m
#Colts fans, let’s hope my info is wrong. Don’t like being wrong, but this time… I’m hoping #NFL #Manning
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Who are his people? Urbz?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
look at picture 10
http://photos.indystar.com/galleries/8772-talk-of-our-town-jim-irsay-s-pre-super-bowl-party
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
A graceful exit……unlike Favre.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
How hilarious would it be if he broke it first?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Lulz
SB Nation @sbnation 3m
We will not officially report Peyton Manning is retiring until Jean-Ralphio confirms @RobLowe’s report.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Hey, was P&R on this week?
I always forget what night it airs cause I always watch it On Demand.
2012 is going to be awesome!
Even if this is wrong all the amusing tweets were well worth it
Bill Simmons @sportsguy33 3m R
Today, Rob Lowe announced Peyton Manning’s retirement and Mark Wahlberg announced he could have stopped 9/11. Your move, Liam Neeson.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
/Waits for outcry over 9-11 joke
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Mark Wahlberg really said he could've stopped 9/11 today
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Just read it. IF I WAS ON THAT PLANE YADA YADA YADA
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
In a new interview with Men’s Journal, Wahlberg says that world history would have been different had he not made a fortuitous decision to fly to Toronto a week early and thus avoid boarding one of the planes out of Boston that crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11th.
“If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn’t have went down like it did,” he tells the magazine. “There would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, ‘OK, we’re going to land somewhere safely, don’t worry.’”
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
He also added this..
“I don’t get down with jerking off, dude. Look. I don’t believe in everything that the church says. I try to do the right thing. I lead a clean and pure life. I’m a married guy. I have a beautiful wife. Sex is not the most important thing to me, being horny all the time, spanking the — I mean, it’s not against the law. You can do whatever you want. And it’s not like, ‘I shouldn’t do it because of my faith. I’m just not really that into it that much anyway.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/mark-wahlberg-on-911-plane_n_1213029.html?ref=entertainment
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Married to a beautiful woman and doesn’t like sex that much. SHIT DOESNT ADD UP
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
He's probably not good in the sack.
You might say that her expectations are quite Lowe.
/YEAAAAAAAAAAAH
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Marky Mark is officially the loudest mook on the planet
Like he’s the dude with the most average intellect with the biggest loudspeaker to express his incredibly “FROM MY PERPSECTIVE” opinions. I like him a lot, but I just find stuff like this hilarious
I can’t take issue with it really.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
If I were at Pearl Harbor, I would have just caught all those bombs and thrown them back at the Japanese. And I’m not talking about the planes. I would have thrown those bombs out to the friggin’ carrier group. No carrier, no place to land. Planes crash into the sea. You didn’t think of that, did you? That’s because you’re not a movie star. QED.
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
That’s weak. I would have thrown them shits all the way back to Osaka.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I would’ve thrown them all the way to Berlin. Fuck you, Axis.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
No one could possibly throw a bomb that far, not even a movie star. Not even Clark Gable himself!!
Andre Ethier: Gross-o-Matic 5000
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Charlie Chaplin would've done it without making a single sound.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
While someone played a piano to his movements.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
At least Clark Kent would have.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
No never did. Superman does not wear glasses. Superman could not fly around like that if he needed glasses. Besides, Clark would look ridiculous in tights and a cape.
Finally a signature worth having:
Fan of the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Basically saying he is braver and tougher then all the people who were on the plane?
Yeah I take a little offense to that.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
LOL OK. IM A MOVIE STAR SO I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT IN REAL LIFE, BRO!
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
At age 16, he was convicted of assault against two Vietnamese men after he had tried to rob them.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, because fighting two Vietnamese dudes is exactly the same as fighting people willing fly a plane into a building.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
WAT! VIETNAM IS IN ASIA?!?!? YOUR YOUR LUKY THAT WIKPEDIA IS DOWN FOR SOFA OTERWISED I WOLD IMBARASS YOU!
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
THOSE CATS WERE FAST AS LIGHTING
"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb
Mayor of Smug.
I’m just saying it’s not like he has always been some pretty boy hollywood star.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
He used to be a drug dealer and violent criminal. And now he’s bigger. Passengers on one plane did it; I won’t doubt Marky Mark’s ability to instigate a similar reaction.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
He'd trip over his droopy pants
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
It’s very likely that he has had fight training for at least one or two of his movies.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I’m sure that Marky Mark knows how to fight. After all he grew up on the streets of Dorchester, Boston! Whose tougher than those dudes?
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I have family from Dorchester (now in southie) and the are pretty rough and tumble group.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Massholes
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds
by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
They really are. My wife is one too, but its weird. Calling her one during a fight doesn’t seem to lighten the mood…
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Also
it’s not just about fighting…it’s about the idea of people flying a plane into a building.
There was an article about how people just did not understand this level of evil. United 93 happened because the people on the plane found out about the earlier attacks.
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Exactly, prior to this most hijackings were seeking ransom money or to draw attention to a political cause. Air France Flight 8969 was hijacked and they wanted to fly it into the Eiffel Tower, this never materialized. Wahlberg presuming all this bullshit is hilarious.
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I think it’s the part where he mentions his kids that makes me not have an issue with it. I’m not saying I believe he’d be successful necessarily, but some people on one flight were, once they knew what was really going on.
I can see him as the type to fly off the handle immediately if someone put his family in a threatening position.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
How is that really different than anyone else?
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Exactly. Plus the MO in the majority of hijackings is to keep everybody in their seats or move them to a specific section of a plane. Then kill people who disobey or threaten loved ones. So more than likely he would follow instructions. On top of this assuming some former bruiser movie star from Boston is going to react like a soldier with tons of training and GI joe ninja skills, is ludicrous. You also have to keep in mind that when they forced the plane down in PA, this is one of the few times command of an airplane has been taken away from hijackers by passengers.
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Ok,so clearly LOL HE’S A MOVIE STAR is a better way to look at it.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
it’s armchair quarterbacking at its worst.
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I’m still not going to laugh at the thought of the ex- violent con, ex-drug dealer, Dorchester native attacking people who threaten his children, just because he’s been in movies.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 18, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not even laughing at it for that reason. I’m laughing at the statement because it is stupid. There is nothing that sets him apart from the average person on those planes. Look at the long list of hijackings in the 70’s and 80’s. Don’t you think that on at least one of those planes was a combat veteran who stood by and did nothing because he didn’t want to get shot or stabbed. The point is if he tried something he would be dead and nothing would have changed.
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Exactly. The other passengers just assumed it was a “standard” hijacking. Flight 93 fought back to avoid causing further death and destruction, not to save themselves.
Dammit. I hate talking about this. A coworker was on that plane. To have Marky Mark delude himself publicly is quite distressing.
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He learned to fight sarcastically, to make fun of other people who knew how to fight.
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To repeat
Vercotti: Doug (takes a drink) Well, I was terrified. Everyone was terrified of Doug. I’ve seen grown men pull their own heads off rather than see Doug. Even Dinsdale was frightened of Doug.
2nd Interviewer: What did he do?
Vercotti: He used… sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and… satire. He was vicious.
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I’m sure many dudes have said that.
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Little known fact
Al Queda translates to “the funky bunch” in arabic.
The first six innings are overrated.
I don’t get the Liam Neeson reference and that is still hilarious.
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I just assume it is because he kicks ass in his movies.
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I just IMDB.com’d him…he played a lot more ass-kickers than I remembered.
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Aren’t all of his characters kick ass?
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by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Shindler’s List?
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
I’d say that was kick ass dude.
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by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
I never saw “Kinsey” or “Chloe” or a few others.
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I liked Kinsey.
How about Darkman?
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
They left the part out of "Kinsey" where after each interview he kicked their ass?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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The movie Taken was awesome. His new movie The Grey looks fun.
I just pretend Clash of the Titans never happened.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Clash of the titans was one of the worst movies I've ever seen
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They’re releasing a sequel!
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Wrath of the Titans.
Neeson will be in it.
Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Wrath of the Titans: When Football Teams Attack!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Paraphrasing Bill Maher:
New Rule: From now on, all Liam Neeson movies have to be called “If you fuck with me, I’ll hunt you down and kill you.”
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Germans on this day in 1936.
/world without wikipedia
The first six innings are overrated.
by apistat on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Pretty sure that is the world without education.
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by calgiants86 on Jan 18, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Re-education.
Amirite?
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Today marks the anniversary of Hitler killing Jewish people in showers in Hawaii, causing the United States to drop a big bomb on Japan.
by Every6thDay on Jan 18, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
WHY DID THE JAPIPANESS BOMB US WITH SOFAS?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
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by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
BUT WE DIDN'T GIVE UP!!!!
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Abe Lincoln was born in a cabin he built with his own hands
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Using wood from the cherry tree washington chopped down.
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by say hey nation on Jan 18, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Liz Lemon would approve.
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I hate to think what this is filling with.
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Froggish things
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Mayor of Smug.
Hot Cookie in the Castro!
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Damnit. Just ruined my copy of Modern Warfare 3. Bumped the Xbox and it burned a ring around the edge of the disc.
What the hell?
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Does your xbox house an active forge?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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kaliber is actually Eorlund Greymane.
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I am as well...and the Thane of Windhelm.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
I'M CAPTAIN BASCH VON RONSENBERG OF DALMASCA!
/don’tcrossthememes
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I’m the thane of a billion places now. It no longer seems special. I just keep getting stoopid swords.
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THERS A MILLION HOLDS IN SKYRIM O_o
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
*BILLIONS
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/1/18/2716824/tim-lincecum-visualized
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I trust Rob Lowe over this "Archie" Manning.
Chris Mortensen
@mortreport: Archie Manning laughed when he heard @RobLowe said Peyton will retire, “Noooo…he ain’t retiring. I think he would’ve told me.” #NFL32
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
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What?
Peyton didn’t even tell Archie that he was retiring?
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What a terrible son.
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He's better than Manning.
Worse than the comics.
Brandon Crawford: Yeah, but check out that Defense!
Lars Bet: 1st HoF: Bonds > Clemens
*tell
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