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The Giants avoided arbitration with outfielder Melky Cabrera, tweets ESPN's Enrique Rojas, signing him for $6MM.

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At those prices,

I sure hope the Melkman delivers.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 7:17 AM PST reply actions  

This is big fucking news

A .332 BABIP vs a career average of .299 will get you a ton of high choppers through the infield.

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 7:21 AM PST reply actions  

I'm not a huge fan of the Melk man.

But hitters have more control over their BABIP than pitchers do, and a .33 point swing isn’t absurd, nor is a .332 BABIP completely outlandish. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him settle into the .315 range, which would make him one of 60 or 70 hitters to be that high. I think his years of .270 BABIPs were because of poor luck and poor fat.

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 17, 2012 7:43 AM PST up reply actions  

He can hit

— Mike Krukow

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Professional hitter

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

/Randy Winn offended

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by nvsfg on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

His OPS will be no higher than .750 range next season. Bet on it. We’ll all be asking the question, why trade for a guy who hits just as well as Nate Schierholtz but without the plus defense, and takes playing time away from Brandon Belt?

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

To get rid of Sanchez?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Who, by the way, is projected by ZIPS to (a) throw 136 innings with an ERA+ of 95, and (b) still be the best starting pitcher on the Royals.

by Evan on Jan 17, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Poor Jonathan.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m recommending this comment because it speaks the truth.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

To get rid of Sanchez?

Probably for complaining about having to compete for the 5th spot with Zito.

There is no other reason why I can think of they would want to get rid of him. They didn’t save money on the trade. He has a motivation to perform well to get his value up for free agency. He would have been pitching in a non-hitters ball park, facing weaker lineups in the N.L. West and no DH’s. He also would have had a great pitching coach who knows a lot about him in Dave Righetti who could assist him.

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the Giants REALLY want Zito in the rotation

It is like they are determined to squeeze any kind of value out of him that they can.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes!

Aubrey Huff: "My body is ripped."

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

This seems to be true. Plus it does seem like they gave up on getting into Sanchez’ head last year, and kept him on the DL when he said he wasn’t injured. Hell, they could have given up on him just for that press conference.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

/Zeets has a Cy Young season and proves everybody wrong.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

/hopes like hell

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

That would be pretty cool

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

A unicorn would be pretty cool.

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by ResDog on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

That would be pretty cool FUCKING FANTASTIC.
/throw me a rope please

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by nvsfg on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Book it

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention that Melky will almost ceratinly walk away from the team as a free agent this offseason – with no comp picks for the Giants. Sabes traded Sanchez for 1 season Melky – rather than trade Sanchez for minor league prospects that would cost the Giants pennies on the dollar and using the $6M salary to pay a large chunk of the money to re-sign Beltran. If Sabes had traded both Dirty and Andres for minor leaguers, he could have used the $10.85M+ that are now going to Melky and Pagan to keep Beltran in the fold.

Who would you rather have in the OF this season –
Beltran, Gregor Blanco (or Tyler Graham or Justin Christian), and Nate
or
Melky, Pagan, and Nate?

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by Fla-Giant on Jan 17, 2012 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh crap, you said Tyler Graham or Justin Christian, as starting possibilities.

Just keep Torres and don’t re-sign Affeldt. Same-ish money. Beltran/Torres/Nate.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Or whatever they did with Affeldt: Don’t do it.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Beltran wanted them to replace Torres, remember?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Torres doesn’t have to lead off.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

ha-ha

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

The Giants really should have done this.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

But hitters have more control over their BABIP than pitchers do, and a .33 point swing isn’t absurd

When you’ve got may more plate appearances at a level other than that, I’d say that it makes me at least a little skeptical.

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

My understanding of BABIP is related to strenght of hitter

Something about more line drives coming faster off bats, scooting through holes in INF more often. I could be wrong.

Pablo’s BABIP in ML service time
08- . 356
09- .350
10 – .291 (fat panda time)
11- .320

Melky is no Pablo, but it is not unreasonable to think his BABIP can not be 10-20 points over 300. His walk and K rates are practicaly identical, 7.2 v 7.4 BB and 12.0 v 12.9 with both being favorable edge to Melky.

No reason for me to think he is not a 2 WAR player with 4 WAR upside. Nate put up about a 2 WAR pace last year when playing, Melky is at least an upgrade over him, with the option to use Nate more often if Huff stinks again, or as a great PHth OF.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Barry Bonds had a career BABIP is .285. He was not a weak hitter.

There is something about BABIP that has to do with hit types, though.

I also don’t think it’s clear that Melky is an upgrade over Schierholtz. Nate’s defense is quite good.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Barry Bonds had a career BABIP is .285.

Man, with a little more luck, he could’ve been pretty good.

Seriously, that’s amazing. What’s the explanation for that? Lift on the ball = more catchable fly balls and fewer grounders?

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

And when he did hit it on the ground, it was into the shift a lot.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

This.

He lost a lot of hits to short RF/2B.

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea

When he squared it up good, it just flew out. Pablo has a lot of power too, as compared to Cabrera, he is a close but not perfect comp.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, hit type makes a big difference.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

When you hit them as hard & as far as Barry did, they should probably count in BABIP

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by ResDog on Jan 17, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

But BABIP measures luck, not performance.

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by El Person on Jan 17, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know about that. If a guy is able hit a lot of line drives I wouldn’t call that luck.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 17, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think that is accurate. BABIP might be an indication that there’s some sort of luck-based explanation to look for, but by itself it does not measure luck.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Flyballs have a lower BABIP, and the homerun thing E6D just mentioned.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Yay!

My instinct was correct!

/feels validated about participating in an actual baseball discussion and not my usual superfluous nonsense and bad jokes

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

a .33 [sic] point swing isn’t absurd

I would emphasize that his 2011 BABIP was not a .033 point swing. The .299 career average includes his 2011 .332 BABIP. It’s in there.

His career average BABIP without that season was .290. It was nearly a .045 swing from what could have been expected at the start of last season.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Some measure of regression should be expected, honestly.

.310 I could buy if he truly is “in the best shape of his life.” But he almost certainly won’t be a 4 WAR player again. If he’s worth 2 wins, I guess I will refrain from throwing shit.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, at this point, you may as well just bet on the .299, since that’s his average now, or fudge it a little up or down from that depending on your opinion of him as a player. I just wanted to be clear about how big of a swing his 2011 season was. To follow a swing, you have the keep the starting point in mind.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I get you.

I’m just tacking on by saying that that kind of swing is infrequently sustainable.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Cool.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, if he had a .380 BABIP, that’d be a concern, but speedy hitters can easily post BABIPs significantly above average without concern of suddenly dropping.

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by Electric on Jan 17, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

dumpster diving in the rich neighborhoods

Just have to hope they just got tired of their Melky because they had a bunch of newer-model Melkys on hand. It’s a hassle to sell your Melkys on Ebay.

by sweetjuxtapose on Jan 17, 2012 7:50 AM PST reply actions  

What are we gonna do with all this Melk?

The Giants are spending all their money on it. Uh on it.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

They’re gonna make make make make us scream. Make us scream make us scream.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha!

That crossed my mind when I read your post. Now you got it stuck in my head.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Pagan and Casilla also sign 1 year deals

Casilla = 1 year @ $2.2M + posiible $200K incentive bonuses:
https://twitter.com/#!/Enrique_Rojas1/statuses/159282057686687744

Pagan = 1 year @4.85M + possible $150K incentive bonuses based on plate appearances
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7468903/san-francisco-giants-reportedly-reach-1-year-deal-angel-pagan

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by Fla-Giant on Jan 17, 2012 7:53 AM PST reply actions  

Incentive bonuses!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Not a ton of money for any of the 3, but the $6M for Melky is worryinly hihg to me. I guessed the following numbers for these 3 guys in my “Figuring Out the Giants 2012 Payroll” fanpost from about a month ago:
Melky=$4.5M, Pagan=$4.5M, Casilla=$2M
The fact that the actual numbers are all higher than my liberal guesses doesn’t seem to bode well for the upcoming Pablo and Timmy awards. If Melky is worth $6M, then how is Panda not worth $10M? That’s certainly the line I would be taking right now if I were Panda’s agent.

As for Pagan, it looks like Andres Torres will probably be playing for about $1.5M less than Pagan in 2012. I’m not sure that Pagan gives the Giants that much more worth. Not to mention the fact that, and this is the worst part of the trades for Mleky and Pagan, the odds that both Pagan and Melky will be walking away from SF as free agents this coming offseason seems close to 100% – and the Giants will not receive any compensation draft picks for either guy. To clarify, due to the changes in the new CBA, .there are no more Type A or Type B free agents. The only free agents that teams will receive comp draft picks for are players that the team offers a minimum 1 year contract to at a salary that is at least equivalent to the top 125 players in the game by the middle of November each offseason. Using 2011 salary figures, that means that the Giants would have to offer Pagan and Melky salaries above $14M then have each turn the offer down and sign a FA contract with another team in order to receive any comp picks for them. Barring a truly miraculous offensive season by Melky or Pagan, the Giants aren’t going to be tending them salary offers that are over $10M this offseason.

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by Fla-Giant on Jan 17, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you think they overpaid Timmy last time?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they underpaid him.

I’m not sure that $22M is an overpay at this very moment (2012), given the market, but it’s very clear that Lincecum is in decline, so, beyond this year, he’ll very likely be a significant overpay.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

“very clear?”

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd say it's statistically very clear he HAS declined from his Cy peak.

But he’s still way too young to confidently project a similar path going forward.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

This

Lots of guys lose velocity in their late 20s, but they are smarter and they adjust.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Cain's WAR has been increasing

And just looking at fWAR, Cain and Madbum had better years that Tim last year.

I think Fangraphs said Tim’s Cy years were worth 30 mil on open market, last year was worth about 20 mil.

All contracts need to go between risk of injury and\or further decline vs can Tim get to his Cy level again or is he not going to do worse than last year?

I don’t know what to think, but as a fan, I hope they lock him up for 4-6 and live with any risk of decline or injury.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Not really.

Every single team does this.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Not really what? Overpay?

Then that means every single team overpays to avoid going to arbitration. Overpaying is still overpaying.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Ostensibly, the figure is somewhere close to the midpoint of the figures exchange by the Giants and the players.

This really does happen all the time. That you characterize it as an overpay is a value judgment that is frankly irrelevant to dealmaking.

The Giants have at least until the beginning of February, perhaps even mid-February, to get a deal done. The deals probably wouldn’t be happening this quickly unless A) the negotiations were easy, or B) they are ceding a bit of ground on players who will not be with the team next year so they can spend more time building the right offer for Cain.

Either way, I’m not going to complain about it. I think $6M is too much for Cabrera, but sources had him making as much as $7M no it’s not like this is unexpected.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have them offhand, but it was a number that was thrown around last year.

Again, it’s on the high side, but for a guy of Cabrera’s production last, in his last year before arbitration, it’s not unexpected. He’s getting paid what Cody Ross got paid in a comparable arb year.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I just want to say I love opening a sentence with ostensibly comma

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It's Uncle Melky time!

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 8:04 AM PST reply actions  

BUT THEN WE WOULD BE WITHOUT MELKY AND AFFELDT AND CASILLA

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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

/vomits

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

10.8 million for Angel Pagan and Melky Cabrera

Good times

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 8:11 AM PST reply actions  

Or half an Alan Shearer.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

True enough. Or it could be one fifth of Andy Carroll.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

You already know this

Transfer fees are not salaries.

Bye Travis and thanks for 2010! Good luck with the Brewers!

by kennv on Jan 17, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

of course. just having a little fun

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, he’s cheaper than Tejada!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:14 AM PST reply actions  

Did they end up showing the Roddick game last night?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I got bored with all the yammering about the union stuff and went to bed.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

So there’s still Timmy, Romo, Panda and Nate left. Will we hear any more today?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:21 AM PST reply actions  

I could see all of these getting done today except Timmy

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Boy, you guys are doom and gloom

I’m ready for some baseball.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 17, 2012 8:35 AM PST reply actions  

Same thing…

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Yay, baseball!

I’m a lot less annoyed with the Giants since I have a grand slam to watch. And the football has been entertaining.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I’m not that concerned about baseball right now, because in six days I will be watching live ice skating (and the 49ers on TV).

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

this

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Hope like hell for a .330 BABIP.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 8:43 AM PST reply actions  

Do, or do not

there is no hope like hell.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

If I’m hoping like hell already, I might as well bet the house. .389 BABIP.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

PSA: Power engineer?

I’ve no idea what one is or what one does but holy crap, I wish I did…

$6,841 to $9,627 per month
Education: Equivalent to a Bachelor’s degree from an accredited college or university with major course work in electrical engineering.

other requirements at:
http://www.roseville.ca.us/jobs/jobdetails.asp?JobID=812

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

80k-115k for design, investigation and construction of electric utility projects?

Interquartile range for electrical engineers per the BLS is 67k-106k, and this position looks to be more senior than the midrange.

Strikes me as market rate.

by wcw on Jan 17, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

well and I’m sure 3 or 4000 people will apply for it. I will NEVER make that much in a year. Where financial security is concerned…I picked the wrong line of work.

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Not that I recommend it, but if you start a business in your field and if (a big one) it succeeds, you would.

Full disclosure: that is a risk I do not want to take myself.

by wcw on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

in education? not likely, unless I decide to publish text books. And my expertise is the 3-6 year old demographic, they don’t use many text books.

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

The natural fit would be to start a preschool with an eye to making it a successful local chain. High risk, to be sure.

by wcw on Jan 17, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Very, since during grad school we had a project to develop a business model to open a school. The only way we could open a school, pay our employees a living wage, not charge our parents an arm and a leg and ride out what was then a crap Bay Area economy [first tech bust back in the 90’s] was to have won the lottery. “The Big Spin Preschool” we got the only A’s in the class.

I know one person who was able to open her own school, a real school, not some fly by night operation in her garage, her dad died and left her the land/building and a good chunk of money.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

My wife is currently teaching at a Chinese Immersion preschool

We plan on opening our own 2 years from now if all goes well. I already have a director at my work who wants to invest.

I think we might have enough business handling customers within my company alone. (~3000 employees in Santa Clara)

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Community Care Licensing has a series of classes for people wanting to open their own centers. It’s part of the process.

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Mister Man’s school is so oversubscribed that they are opening a second campus next year. No, they do not pay their teachers a living wage, but they do pay above-market wages and it is a neat place.

Bum economy or no, where demand outstrips supply there is a business opportunity. The trick is getting the loan.

by wcw on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

In all seriousness, how's your public speaking?

You might be able to wrangle a consultant gig based on your years of experience. Helps if you can write books for other teachers working with your age group.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Jan 17, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve presented at conferences and whatnot. Originally I wanted to get a community college teaching gig, but that’s kinda like trying to get a philosophy job.
I’ve been published in a few anthologies, generally those pay you $25 and a copy of the book.

I’ve got a book on the back burner.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

AdamRubinESPN
Source: Andres Torres settles with #Mets for $2.7 million.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 8:59 AM PST reply actions  

I’m just going to go scream at things for a while.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

/Joins Howie screaming at a toaster.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

That toaster’s an asshole.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

If it were any other player, I would hope that he has a crappy year. But, I’m going to be rooting for him like crazy.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I posted jctgamer’s video to that ass clown Mets fan on facebook, but he hasn’t answered me. Mets fans are idiots.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate that they have both Torres AND Wheeler.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I know that hindsight is 20/20, but gosh darn does that Beltran – Wheeler trade look terrible now.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

It wasn’t a slam dunk when it was made, either.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel like most people here still think it was a good idea at the time (TNSTAAPP and all), but I hated it then and I hate it now (and not just because I got to know Wheeler when he was in SJ).

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Alas, the worst possible outcome of the deal came to pass: no playoffs and the Giants didn’t re-sign Beltran. It was a total waste and a slap in the face.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I think what makes it worse is that Wheeler might still be the Giants’ top prospect (this is Sickels’ opinion).

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

It could still get worse, if Wheeler becomes a viable starter around the same time we start losing pieces from our starting rotation.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

This is a good point, too. These arguments to not re-sign Matt and Tim (hi, GP!) seem crazy to me given how terrible the organization’s pitching depth is. Losing Wheeler only made that worse.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

A lot worse. I really don’t like how that trade played out.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, because Giants will never draft, develop or trade for another good prospect.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

The Giants generally do not trade for prospects

Typically, they send prospects in exchange for more established players.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I assume this is sarcasm, but I am very concerned with the organization’s current lack of starting pitching depth in the minors. If they lose Matt or Tim (or Matt and Tim), they’re going to have to come up with a very creative solution for their replacements.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

To possibly ease your fears

This last draft they got a few guys who have some potential. So they could possibly have some pitching depth in the minors if they develop well.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Crick is at least 3 years away. At least.

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I am very aware of who is in our current crop of prospects. Looking short term, however, I’m not sure there’s enough there.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Well yeah, hoping like hell is required.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

aww c’mon!!! Surkamp!!!

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

It is sarcasm, yes. I think crying over spilt prospects is a little desperate, considering how iffy they are. But yeah, the Beltran for Wheeler thing didn’t work out, but at the time it was probably worth a try. If Beltran had not been injured half the time the Giants had him, it could well have made a difference.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

/sits on hands…

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

If Beltran had not been injured half the time the Giants had him, it could well have made a difference.

Arizona – 94
Giants – 86

Not that much.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Arizona went on a 10 game skid at the same time the Giants did when they played 4 games against the Astros. It was do-able.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

We’re talking about something that already happened though. The records stand. If we go back and time and change 1 thing, Beltran getting injured, it doesn’t make an 8 game difference.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah but there was other stuff there too. Players getting their knickers in a twist over the trade. Other players getting put on the dl instead of “that guy”.
Bah, I told myself I wouldn’t get drawn into this.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m just saying it was a gamble that didn’t pay off. Crying about Wheeler now, when there’s no way to know if he’ll even pan out, is trying really hard to keep the depression going. There are worse things about this team as it is to worry about.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

/Posey sneaks down to Florida, signs with Marlins

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by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, TL2

How’s it going?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Pretty well. Eatin’ lunch and readin’ the paper. You?

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by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Trying to spread cheer in the McCoven and completely failing. Not thinking about bad things is not how it’s done here.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Let’s not forget that at the time the trade was made, the problem with it was not that the Giants could never catch up but that the Giants already had the division in the bag.

by Evan on Jan 17, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

That has nothing to do with my argument though.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

This is correct!

by Evan on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Arizona – 94
Giants – 86

St. Louis – 90

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s a much better rebuttal, but I still don’t think the 20ish games Beltran missed would have netted us 4 wins.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Neither do I, but I think it’s worth remembering that we weren’t quiiiiiite as far from the playoffs as we tend to remember.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

And that there’s no guarantee the whole end of the season plays out the way it did if things went differently in August.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Giants started playing the kids after tanking that homestand.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Kids = Belt and Pill over Huff? I don’t think that lost them any games.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

No, but neither do we know how they would have performed otherwise.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

So basically

it’s ok to say, “you don’t know how it would have played out” when you’re supporting a negative view, but not when you’re trying to look on the bright side?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, that is what I said.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, what if Beltran's extra wins provided came against Arizona?

Things start evening out right quick, then.

(Yes, I know this is not at all how that works.)

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

This is not “crying over spilt prospects.” This is a pitcher I saw pitch several times. I am not the best scout, but he was very good for his age and level. And, we are being told by at least one expert that he would still be the number 1 prospect in the Giants entire system. Not number 1 pitching prospect, number 1 prospect.

Could he fail to pan out? Absolutely. But, given his current value, I don’t think it’s crazy to be irritated by the trade.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

it's not

Lots of us were irritated the day it was made.

by wcw on Jan 17, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s not crazy, just there’s nothing you can do about it now.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

We might as well just shut down this forum, then.

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.

by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Except I got it going by challenging the status quo depression.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Your “spreading cheer” technique could use some work.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was chasm, too. Basically, I just don’t feel like working so I’m trolling y’all just a little. Please, forgive me.

So kdl, who is on your list of hot players to get your picture taken with this year?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay, you’re forgiven. :)

I think I’m most excited to see Panik and Susac play.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, they’ll both be Baby Giants, yes?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Should be, according to an interview with a player development guy.

I’m interested to see who ends up in Fresno, as well. (Not Belt, please!)

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

TOMMY JOSEPH

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he’ll be in AA.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

The way the Giants do things…we should all be in AA.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

This should be green

I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.

by nvsfg on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Think he’s got a shot at making Fresno by mid season? Right now i guess they’ll have who at C with the giants? Posey and Whiteside

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

God

please Stewart, no Whiteside.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

i mean... i'd like to see Sanchez

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Whiteside will end up with the big club. They like him, whether they should or not.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Hector Sanchez will be the starting catcher in AAA. If he gets called up to the big club, I could see Tommy getting the nod. Tommy is only going to be 20 this season, though, so I would imagine they don’t want to move him too quickly.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

wow, yea, not worth rushing Joseph, didn’t realize he’s that young. I definitely think however, Sanchez and Posey should be with the big club, have Joseph slowly work his way to AAA

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I think a lot of Tommy’s value comes with how well he did in the Cal League at such a young age. Also, he looks like he’s about 40, so I could see where people get confused. He was like the 2nd youngest player in the Cal League last year.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup, that’s it, the kid looks alot older than he is. Definitely agree though he should be in AA if Sanchez is getting all the playing time in Fresno

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Please, we need some Belt on the Giants. I have my giraffe ears to wear.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m taking this convo to the left, see below.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

None that would be ready in time to fill a spot if Cain or Timmy leave.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 17, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Matt and Tim were 5.2 and 4.4 WAR pitchers in 2011 respectively

That type of value is nearly impossible to replace without a significant cost in dollars and/or prospects. Since the Giants appear to be in “money meet mattress” mode and the prospect cupboard is bare, I just don’t see the sense in letting them walk.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

The real Doom is if the SP go. It is the strength of the team, and the team will make even less sense without them.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

and

I would rather watch Tim regress than watch Tim walk. Cain, I highly doubt will regress anytime soon unless injury strikes.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, I’m not saying that Wheeler WILL become a viable starter, that the Giants starting rotation WILL crumble under the weight of lost pieces, or that both WILL happen at the same time. Only that a worse case scenario than what’s already happened may still conceivably come to pass.

Hopefully, the Giants retain the three big pieces long-term. A part of me really believes they will (my optimistic side). Another part worries that those big three will cut by third within three years, giving the Giants precious little time to develop something in the farm that isn’t already gestating there. But at least we’ll have the Cain money to put toward a couple of back-end starters on the free agent market. (My pessimistic side.)

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay, fine. I wasn’t nearly as pessimistic as I could be. You’re right. The absolute worst case scenario did not/has not yet come to pass with the Beltran-Wheeler trade. I stand corrected.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

IT COULD BE RAINING

/cues rain.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

And laughtrack, and cut,

Now I’ll just send this reel to CBS and wait for my check.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Then we could spend the RDF!

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

One of your jokes?

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

UNPACK UNPACK UNPACK

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

It’ll be the 90s all over again!

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by ResDog on Jan 17, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

They’ve got the jerseys for it.

I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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by nvsfg on Jan 17, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

/sigh

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by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I was ‘pretty okay’ with it assuming they kept Beltran and I believe they thought the money would be there this offseason at the time. But then things went wonky.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 17, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m drafting him to both of my fantasy teams so I can keep track of his performances twice.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Awesome.

I think I’m going to take off work to go to see the series when the Mets are in SF.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Gah

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

’scuse me… gonna go throw things.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

But not the toaster. Howie and calgiants86 aren’t done yelling at it.

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by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Wanna join in?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah. You two have at it.

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by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m picturing them on opposite sides of the toaster, yelling profanities at it. Then, the toast pops up, temporarily startling them into a brief moment of silence before they continue yelling.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s it. Cut and print.

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by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

This whole thing reminds me of the Ghostbusters sequel.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
Azmanz Bet: 1st HoF: Clemens > Bonds

by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

It reminds me of something my dog would do. Well, replace the profanities with dog sounds.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh.

Blah.

Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian

I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.

by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Pardon my French

Son of a bitch.

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by ResDog on Jan 17, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

This is my fault.

I cost Andres money. Yesterday, I found that his Mets site on MLB.com had his middle name as “Vungo”, so I dashed off a nasty e-mail to the Mets about showing the man a little respect. Naturally, they retaliated by signing him for less money. Now I owe him more than cookies.

by mrs. owlcroft on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Breaking?

Reds add Ludwick. We don’t have to worry about that one anymore.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 9:21 AM PST reply actions  

Crossover step

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s all chins and elbows and veins.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m procrastinating…I don’t want to go to Costco.

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

I don’t care if it saves me money, I refuse to shop there. Ick.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Is Costco no longer one of the good guys?

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate those giant warehousey stores. Hell, I hate every store, pretty much, but those especially.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I see.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I pretty much make my husband do the shopping. I’d rather cook.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

So long as it’s not wall to wall people I don’t mind going, it’s just you don’t know how bad it’s going to be until you get there, and we will soon be reaching a toilet paper emergency level.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s and the Japanese market (or other specialty market) or bust!

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

/shrugs, continues carting around local warehouse store

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by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

/pouts in the corner
I made sweet tea this morning. Amazing as usual.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I am also in the Hate Giant Warehouse Store camp

They totally fuck with my sense of direction (which was poor to begin with) and all the space and high ceilings give me vertigo.

A couple of years ago we had to stop at a Wal-Mart while visiting New Orleans, and there was this weird empty space in the middle of the store where they had taken down a display and hadn’t put up a new one yet. When we passed it I seriously had to look away and let my wife guide me, because looking at it made me dizzy and queasy.

Pretty weird, I know. I have no idea why this is the case.

Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.

by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

It's no trouble now but,

When I first went to a Price Club in the early 80’s, I walked around feeling very weird with eye bogled. The feeling wore of,f but there is definitely something strange about way the places are set up.

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 17, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

there is definitely something strange about way the places are set up.

I worked at Price Club for seven years. Warehouse set-ups, Merchandising, Logistics, Buying.

The floor set up is on purpose. Just to make it really interesting, we generally moved/re-merchandised all but about three categories at least twice a year.

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by nvsfg on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

the Hate Giant Warehouse Store

Is that this year’s name for the Oakland Mausoleum?

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Someone page Rooter. He’s the arbiter on these things.

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by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

They aight. I think.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, that cleared up nothing. I move to fire the arbiter!

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by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

His smug is broken

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

As Vice Mayor, it’s my constitutional duty to step in if he needs to be removed.

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Such treachery.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

This isn’t a coup. I’m just saying that if for some reason we need to invoke the 25th Amendment, I’m ready to fulfill my constitutional duty.

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Whatever. Et tu, Speckops?

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

/stab stab stab

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Think of it as a very sharp intervention.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Costco used to have a policy of management level pay being tied to some percentage of the lowest paid workers pay. Dunno if they still do that.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

and they supposedly get their meat from good sources

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

/laughs thinking about the McDonald’s commercial featuring the farmer who takes pride in supplying beef to McDonald’s

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I love Costco. Their meat is good, and because so many people shop there, you know the meat you’re buying is fresh and hasn’t been sitting around for days.

A few years ago we bought a TV from Costco, and kept it for maybe 2 years until something blew out. We returned it, without a receipt or anything, and they gave us full value. In fact, the prices in TVs had gone down, so we got a new TV, plus $500 back.

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re right. We got lucky.

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve done that with failing vacuum cleaners and coffee makers.

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by Lunkus on Jan 17, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

alright, I better go before the lunch mob hits.
ugh.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Realistically, i'm not surprised, hence, not pissed

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

Well there’s a job I’m not qualified for:

Mental Competency Instructor

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:54 AM PST reply actions  

You can teach that? How do you get someone referred?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t even look at the posting, just the title made me laugh.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

hmmmm
We are currently seeking a mental competency instructor to work 2-4 days per week (16-24 hours) in the community and at two base locations (Granite Bay & Yuba City). Instructors are responsible for teaching individuals with developmental disabilities who have been found to be incompetent to stand trial regarding court proceedings and their specific court case. The instructor is also responsible for report writing, case management and consistent communication with other mental competency trainers regarding clients’ program level. Regular staff meetings and consultation with a forensic psychologist is provided.

Bachelor’s degree and $15 an hour

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

That sounds like a cool job, actually, but not for that pay.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, for only a part time job. That’s like poverty level.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s the minimum wage again?

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

$8

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it went up to $10?

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I think kdl is sighting the Federal minimum wage. Minimum wage itself varies from state to state.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

omfg citing* /needs coffee

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

No, I was talking about California. Labor Commissioner says it’s $8 (unless you’re a sheepheder, lol). Federal is $7.25.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah. SF is now. $10.24. I remember getting paid $3.35 way back when.

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Minium wage was $2.30 when I had my first job. And Mickey D’s.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it was $4.75 for my first job. At K Mart.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

First work I ever did was yard work with my brother. We got all our jobs by reference. At the time federal minimum might have had a $2 handle, $3 at most, but we got $5ish. It was the suburbs, and the day-labor phenomenon hadn’t taken off yet.

by wcw on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel left out, I never had a minimum wage job. I couldn’t work when I was in high school because I was living in Europe. My first job was working as a secretary at my Dad’s friend’s law firm in SF.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I had a minimum wage summer job

I think it was 6.75 at the time. I worked in a warehouse!

by GiantPain on Jan 17, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

It was $6.75 for me as well. I worked at Copeland’s Sports.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Things are tough all over.

by kaliber on Jan 17, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn, I thought it would have gone up a bit. They increased it to $7.25 back in 07 right?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Feds increased to $7.25 in ’09. California has bee $8 since ’08. Someone tried to increase it in this legislative session, but it has been sitting in committee since May.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

it's sad that my wife is teaching for 12.50 at public pre-school

and married filing jointly means 40% tax. GG 60 dollars per day and has to pay gas with a 30 minutes commute.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

married filing jointly for unequal earners is a tax break

Trust me. The ‘marriage penalty’ is a myth unless you have two relatively equal earners, where it is small.

by wcw on Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not claiming marriage penalty at all

I’m just saying it’s not worth her time to work if she has to pay my tax rate. She is basically working so my kid can attend the same pre-school. As soon as she graduates to Kindergarten she’ll either quit or open our own. This wage is not worth it at all.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

welcome to advanced capitalism

Wages in education are not, as I said above, living wages even if you pay above the market.

This is how we make a labor market.

by wcw on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Well that’s good to know since I’m currently bringing in about $50 a month!

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Granite Bay and Yuba City are in California

Where I believe minimum wage is all the way up to $9.75.

Meanwhile, I worked part time in Ohio for $6.40 as recently as three years ago.

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I am an employment lawyer, and I literally can’t find a current citation for California’s minimum wage. The one I found must be out of date.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

See below.

And I just used Wikipedia, hahahahaha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._minimum_wages

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m right. There was a bill in the legislature this session to change it to $8.50, but it has not been enacted.

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.

by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, that’s just California, as it turns out. kdl is right, it’s $8 statewide.

Also, in SF this minimum wage is going up to $10.24!

"I see these guys walking around with rings on, and I want one. That's what it's all about." -Ryan Vogelsong

by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, this makes the $13.50/hr I made at my last job seem even meagerer.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Teaching?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I was editing then.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Alex Smith feature in SI
When one of the greatest playoff games in NFL history was over last Saturday on a spectacular sun-soaked afternoon in San Francisco, Doug Smith greeted his son Alex in the parking lot with a smile, a hug and a very good question: “Do you [earn] two fourth-quarter comebacks for that?”

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1193912/1/index.htm

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

yea, Jim Trotter wrote an amazing piece

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

kdl

We need to organize a McCoven meetup for the Baby Giants.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

And I know this violates my “don’t get attached to prospects” policy.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha!

You’re going to get sucked in!

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I know. You people are a bad influence. Well, and also I can’t afford to go to Giants games until my husband gets a job.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, SJ general admission tickets are $7. I usually get the box seats (which are the best seats) at $16 (but I pay $13 by buying the 6 game flex package).

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.

by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

That and the fact that it’s a half hour drive makes it a better option for us right now.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s farther for me by about 1/2 hour or so, but the convenience (parking, etc.) makes it worth it.

Btw, parking is $10.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, cheap.

We didn’t even by season tickets to roller derby this year, because we have to miss at least one. They don’t discount for season ticket holders, which sucks.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

SJ considers me a season ticket holder, because I buy those flex packages. I get invites to season ticket holder events and such (which I can never go to because they’re at, like, 5 pm on a Monday). It’s pretty sweet.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

as long as nobody messes with Jarrett Parker, all is good

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

No one’s sure where he’ll end up. Both he and the org have said he could possibly go back to SJ, which surprised me. I had him pegged for AA.

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

seems patient at the plate… athletic, does have some holes in his swing, but i’d like to see him in AA as well. If he starts in A+ in SJ then he should be called to Richmond sometime during the season

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve talked with Baron and Merope about it. Here is info about group tickets. I think Baron was interested in the “Baseball & BBQ” option. (Turkey Mikes BBQ is good. I love the potato salad.)

The SJ box office people are awesome, so I’m sure they could help us figure out the best way to do a group outing for whatever size we end up with.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Is this gonna be girls only?

That would be fun, but how will I make my husband stay home?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I would want the guys to go, too.

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.

by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, good.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

delorean and SoFa King Mike regularly go to SJ games, so I would expect them to attend our outing.

@legaleagle88
I'm not crazy. My mother had me tested.

by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

i really should go some time

especially since i’m in Santa Cruz… If i’m ever in Columbus i’m definitely considering going to a Clipper game

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I call shotgun!

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Jan 17, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

That Baseball & BBQ thing we did a couple years back was pretty sweet.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 17, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

“Park Packers?”

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Baby Giants games are a good time.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

One year Brute Sentiment organized it and got the group area for the McCoven.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Gallo has done a good job getting a group together for a Rivercats/Grizzlies game.

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Happy birthday Muhammad Ali

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 AM PST reply actions  

Yesterday was Albert Pujols’ birthday, and I forgot to tweet about it.

Celebrating 60 years of NBC News Today, January 14, 1952 - January 14, 2012

by TheLetter2 on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn't even know it was his birthday, lol

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

/checks wiki

Huh. It is the 17th. Wasn’t someone saying it was this past Saturday?

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

It is also Giants’ prospect Bryce Bandilla’s birthday today! He turned 22.

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by free f.p. #14 on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s a friend of yours, right? Happy Birthday to him!

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha childhood acquaintance is more accurate, but I know him well enough to be Facebook friends with him! :D

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by free f.p. #14 on Jan 17, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

He's no Orlando

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 AM PST reply actions  

I know how arbitrations works

I just find it funny that we will be paying Santiago Casilla and Melky Cabrera and Santiago Casilla as much as the Red Sox will be paying Ellsbury.

The Red Sox avoided arbitration with center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury on a deal worth $8.05MM, tweets MLBTR’s Ben-Nicholson-Smith.

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:09 AM PST reply actions  

Hmm clearly meant only one Santiago Casilla

Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"

by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Ellsbury is good

Was that a hometown discount or something?

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s only his 2nd arb year (per Cot’s, anyway).

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah but we are still paying Buster Posey and Madison Bumgarner 500K

That is just the order of things.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

They aren't in arbitration so that doesn't really work

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

That's the whole point. That's how the baseball system works

Totally unfair, but that’s the order of things.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

LOLINCECUM

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:15 AM PST reply actions  

JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
#SFGiants and lincecum file numbers. no agreement. no surprise.

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Expected

Can’t wait to see what those numbers are

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

WE'RE SCREWED!!!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

They played chicken until right before the arb hearing last time

So there is still hope they come to some type of agreement.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Can the Giants even sign him to a long term contract?

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Sigh

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Educate me please

So how does this work now? Does the arbitrator decide one number or the other, or does he get to pick what he thinks Timmy’s worth?

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jan 17, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Baseball arbitration: You pick one number or the other.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s so simple!

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

and stupid.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, who came up with this idea? It has never made sense.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Those darn South Americans!!!
Pendulum Arbitration refers to a determination in industrial disputes where an arbitrator has to resolve a claim between a trade union and management by making a determination of which of the two sides has the more reasonable position. The arbitrator must choose only between the two options, and cannot split the difference or select an alternative position. It was initiated in Chile in 1979.

wiki

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Pinochet!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think that if the arbitrator could just pick a value, both sides would just submit ridiculous numbers and hope to influence his final decision.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Come on, it’s so gladiatorial! Two go in, only one comes out.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

It makes plenty of sense for what it is, which is people who don’t know anything about baseball deciding what baseball players should be paid.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Where do the arbitrators come from?

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

usually it’s a mutually agreed to…One side picks 3 to 5 and the other side picks one of those.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

So, do they get someone from JAMS or what?

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably

I would think that there are professions who do sports arbitration for a living.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Besides

I would expect that 90% of the time, the arbitrator would just split the difference.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s what they seem to do in my labor arbitrations.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

so why make it illegal in baseball?

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

It's just the process that MLB and the players union agreed to

Benefits would be that it’s more streamline and less complicated.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, so that if you want to negotiate like normal people, you’ll keep it out of the hearing process.

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

exactly.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think I understand the question.

I was mostly making a joke about arbitrators. They tend to “split the baby” rather than coming up with an actual decision.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

splitting a baby would be illegal.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It worked for King Solomon though

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually,

just the opposite. He had to decide who was the true mother (thus making the decision all-or-nothing, like in baseball), so he threatened to split the baby and awarded custody to the one that had a problem with that plan.

/humorless pedant

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Nowadays, you just go on the Maury Povich show.

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

/you are NOT the father! dancing gif

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

My belief is that the model is deliberate, to encourage the teams and players to make deals on their own. The hearing is a last resort.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Can we get a Lincecum numbers filed prediction thread

Giants: 17 mil
Timmy: 24 mil

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

Giants: 18
Timmy: 25

Final: 22

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

24 mil for one year?

That’s Yankees money

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

No, that's Oakland A's payroll money

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think Timmy will file for a number he can't win

this is not his last Arb. This is only his 3rd arb as a super 2. I think Giants file for 16 and Timmy files for 20.

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he shoots high because I believe and I bet his agents believe they will ultimately settle

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know

If he’s wrong the Giants can gamble and get a lower salary

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Do they want the bad blood of a hearing, tho?

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Just about to type this

Especially because this FO has show such an aversion to going to arb hearings.

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you overestimate the "bad blood" factor

If Timmy really wanted to stay he probably would have worked out a long term deal by now, not go to arbitration

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I bet he likes it here, but wants to keep his options open. He’s probably going to be the hottest available FA when he hits.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 17, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Timmy will stay for the right deal.. Just like every other player

Assuming his arm doesnt explode or his performance doesn’t crater in the next two years I think it’s pretty likely he gets a 6 or 7 year deal with a very high AAV on the open market. It’s why he’s asking for an 8 year deal now.

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Again…Jered Weaver lost an arbitration to the Angels last year. Bad blood is overblown.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

My guess too.

Something like that. I remember the Baggs quote from an unnamed insider that predicted $25M or something, and it was like, really? A fifth-year arb case is going to set the record for the highest annual salary for a pitcher in history?

by Grant Brisbee on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Filing a number like that is pretty much daring the GIants to take him to the hearing.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

au contraire

filing a number that he cannot win also encourages the Giants to take him to the hearing

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Um.

That’s what I said. If Lincecum files for $25M, he’s saying he’s worth over $30M in free agency. Nobody is going to buy that.

Even Pujols didn’t get $25M AAV in free agency.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

i thought you meant the 20M #

carry on

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Cheers.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Giants: Not enough
Timmy: Too much
Final: Just right

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by ResDog on Jan 17, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Giants 19

Tim 26

They settle at 23

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

He settles

for 2/40.

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by mhad on Jan 17, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey...the Giants will likely get more out of the $6 million they're spending on Melky

then the $6 million they spent on Tejada!

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

Low expectations!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

or

no expectations.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

tallest midget!

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Kim brother says N.Korea heading for collapse: book

“I question how a young heir with two years (of training as a successor) would be able to inherit… absolute power,” he said.

Obviously he hasn’t heard of Aaron Rodgers.

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

Now it makes sense

Kim didn’t do the discount double check

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Even Rodgers sat on the bench for four years.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

/paid his dues

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Now Belt needs to pay his dues by sitting three years

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Or wait… three.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s not like his predecessor did a bang-up job running the country and he had a lifetime in training.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

NO SEX IN THE SOJU ROOM

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

/spikes the lube with gochujang

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know where he was on the intertubes, but the Mr. was reading me something last night about how the N. Korean government is rounding up people who didn’t cry at wuzzizname’s funeral and is sending them off to camps, or exile, or something. I was only half paying attention and am hoping that that is something from the Onion or Ironic Times.

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope. That was Yahoo.

Onion*-sounding stuff is par for the course** for North Korea.

*Onions would’ve come in handy for those poor folks; keep them out of re-education camps AND provide sustenance in one swell foop.

**Those camps are full of people who dared imply that Kim Jong-Il would shoot as low as par. 18 holes-in-one FTW!

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

So, this offseason is sort of bullshit.

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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

Ankle deep.

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by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Back to normal.

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by ResDog on Jan 17, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

LOLGIANTS

LOLCAL
LOLWARRIORS
LOLA’S

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by Murray, Present on Jan 17, 2012 10:31 AM PST reply actions  

I would add LOLKINGS to this list. Not bay area, but N. California, and SO, SO terrible.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

oh god that Mavs game.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Record breaking!

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Kings point by quarter:

11
12
22
15

Lost by 39. But hey, they held the Mavs below 100! Moral victory!

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

serious LOLCAL

I give up

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL CAL FOOTBALL

Cal Rugby!

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Who has it better than us!!!!

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Michigan

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

HUSKIES!

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

USC

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

LOLPAC

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Any news on Desi?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

He's skating, but nothing else

The dude that hit him got a three game suspension, though.

The big worry right now is Ryane Clowe. Yesterday there was a fake rumor that he was traded to the Leafs, and today he’s the only one not skating, which is making everyone freak out.

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by mymclife on Jan 17, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

WTF????????

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I personally think he’s not skating because of his broken face, but that’s just a guess because he’s played with his broken face.

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by mymclife on Jan 17, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

He even took the mask off the other night.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

He could have re-broken his face.

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by mymclife on Jan 17, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

That’ll teach him to take the mask off.

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup, Brodie Brazil just confirmed he’s just out with an “upper body injury” (broken face).

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by mymclife on Jan 17, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Medically speaking broken faciatus. Clowe to the Leafs?! for what lol?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Losing Lupoi and (as a result) Shaq Thompson has to suck. For my money, Tosh Lupoi is the best recruiter in College Football.

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by Kestrel76 on Jan 17, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

another Cal going to UW…apparently Oski is thinking of going as well.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

OH MY GOD I HATE YOU

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

LOLGIANTS times a million

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

only a million?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

RDF

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha, a zillion

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Saint Mary's ranked #23!!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

so, weird shit with my World Series DVDs

If you’re listening to the KNBR audio track – at least on my copy of the set – of, um…I think it’s Game 3, around the 6th or 7th inning, the weirdest thing happens.

Suddenly, in the middle of the inning, the audio cuts out for a moment. Then, a station ID/promo for the Rangers radio broadcast plays. Then a station ID/promo for NKBR. Then, it switches to the ESPN radio broadcast, with Jon Miller and Joe Morgan calling the action. After the inning ends, the audio track goes back to normal, playing the KNBR feed.

What makes it especially weird is that the set doesn’t even include the ESPN radio feed except for that weird little glitch.

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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

Ha, I’ve never played the Game 3 disc. For all I know, there isn’t even a disc inside that holder thing.

But I have been futilely scouring the interwebs for the ESPN radio broadcast of the 2010 World Series. Joe Morgan or not, I wanna hear Jon Miller call the games.

by non sequitur on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember that happening. The glitches were part of the broadcasts themselves.

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by Natto on Jan 17, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Weeeeeeeeird.

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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

/someone’s getting high over there

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

EXCREMENT

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope Kershaw takes the Dodgers for everything they’re worth.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

Love how Agent Ned

re-upped Billingsley but not Kershaw!

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Has Matt Cain been traded to the blue jays yet?

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

No that's next year

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Is this a thing? Who are we supposed to be getting for him?

by Evan on Jan 17, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I hear Alex Rios is still available.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Deal or No Deal

Cain for José Bautista

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Wut.

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

You’d be a crazy mothafucka.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

You can suspect that

that it would be erroneous

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Really?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

see below.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be amazing. /continues daydreaming

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I love Cain, but I would do that.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, Bautista is 1) Better than Cain 2) Next year, cheaper than Cain 3) On an affordable, team-friendly contract.

Cain’s nice and all, but anyone who wouldn’t trade Cain for Bautista straight up is, uhh, crazybeans?

by GiantPain on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

As Jonah Keri likes to say

CRIZAZZLE BEANS

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Also

Giants were rumored to be unwilling to trade Sanchez for Bautista in 2010. Lol us.

by GiantPain on Jan 17, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah! Fuck 2010, what a mistake year that was!

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, right

We’re not allowed to think that anything the Giants did in 2010 was dumb.

by GiantPain on Jan 17, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

We’re not allowed to think that anyeverything the Giants did in 2010 was dumb.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s silly to be all “I wish we had done something different” in a year that, for all intents and purposes, went exactly the way we could have possibly hoped. Zito pitching instead of Sanchez? Maybe Zito isn’t able to put up the 4.05 postseason ERA that Sanchez had.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s sad that anyone would want to complain about 2010.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Jon Heyman May 6, 2011:
And let’s not forget GM Brian Sabean wouldn’t surrender a top young pitcher such as Madison Bumgarner last year, even for Toronto’s Jose Bautista, who was on his way to a home-run title when the Giants appeared to most need power and Bautista had two years to go before free agency. As it turns out, Sabean made the right call, of course, as Bumgarner helped pitch them to a World Series title.
MLB Trade Rumors July 13, 2010:
The Brewers asked the Giants for Jonathan Sanchez or Madison Bumgarner in exchange for Corey Hart, according to Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Hart was always a bad move exactly because the price would’ve been too high, and he is more in line with the fluke-type player CalBear views Jose Bautista to be.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

maybe he could give pointers on how to steal signals?

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 17, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

What about T-shirts?

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Those too

Hell, I’d let him have free soda.

by GiantPain on Jan 17, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

That joke makes me laugh every time.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

the dude is turning 31 and has a crazy two years. Also has 4 more years at $14M per year left on the contract.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, those four years of the best hitter in baseball are a real drawback.

by Evan on Jan 17, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

just not sold but it’s just me.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

the dude is turning 31

So, not that old.

has a crazy two years.

Yeah, that’s a good thing.

has 4 more years at $14M per year

Oh, so he’ll be payed below market value.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Again

I’m not sold on him being a great hitter. But again, that’s just me.

Alex Rios had an excellent two years (not Bautista level) and played really good defense at age 25 and 26. I’m just not that sold on player “finding it” at age 30.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, at this point he has done it for about 2.25 seasons. And my comment was more of a point that your argument against him was an argument for him. You can not be sold, but you said didn’t give any reasons why you wouldn’t be in favor of this. It would be like saying

In conclusion, my client was seen fleeing the crime, had previously argued with and threatened the victim, and was found with the murder weapon.

Just not sold but it’s just me

Maybe your client is innocent, maybe you have reasons to believe that, but you wouldn’t bring up those points to illustrate his innocence.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

1) I think 31 is the age when the power numbers start to go

2) Two crazy years as in not trustworthy enough to give a guy a 4 year contract at $14 AAV.

But it basically boils down to whether one believes that Bautista can keep it up.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I think 31 is the age when the power numbers start to go

Wut?

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/hitters-age-like-wine-power-like-cheese/

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

According to that graph, 24-25 is the point that they start to drop.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Clearly the solution is to only have players age 24-25 on their minor league contracts

Simple

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Calbear would not have wanted Cliff Lee, Randy Johnson or Torres once they got good, either. Fuck all late bloomers!

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Pitchers are different than hitters.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Torres?

So, what do you think about late blooming pitchers?

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Torres had a good year and a half and it’s still to be seen whether he can continue. He is also the exception to the rule.

Pitchers have a stronger chance of being good as they gain more experience and learn more pitches.

Also, the comment was focused more about power hitters. I think the stats are a lot skewed by the steroid era.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

1. Pitchers took steriods
2. Why is Torres an exception? He had lots of power in 2010.

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

1. Agreed. It prolong’s one career but that doesn’t mean that they get good earlier.

2. he is an exception to the general rule (as Bautista may be). Most hitters don’t find power at age 30. Also, one good year does not make a good player make (Aurila had his crazy year at age 29 and JT had a great year at age 36).

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

You didn't answer

WHY you think Torres is an exception. And aren’t you ok with the Pagan trade anyway?

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Why? I don’t know…maybe the ADHD thing but I am still not sold whether he had a good year or is revived.

I am okay with the Pagan trade because Pagan is basically Torres but 4 years younger with more success.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Aurilia *was* a good player

Not even close to as good as that one season, of course, but if right now someone told you you could have a shortstop who would be good-not-great defensively for several years, and have a long career with a 99 OPS+, would you say no to that?

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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I think 31 is typically when they start to level out.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

according to Fangraph

that’s 26 to 29.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

The Blue Jays and the 12 Blue Jay fans?

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

How many Blue Jays?

I just see one on the logo.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

WHO WOULD NOT TAKE THIS DEAL?!

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

lulz

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Who do you think?

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

It's times like these I need my sponsor Hyoton

IM ABOUT TO FALL OFF THE WAGON

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I love Calbear

His perspectives are always unique.

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m “special”

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you smarter than the average bear?

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

What definition of bear are we using?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh dear.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

SL

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Happy birthday Zooey Deschanel?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 AM PST reply actions  

I got sick of seeing all those commercials of her show during the NFL playoffs last weekend.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

just show a picture of her, that’s it

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

This would be good.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Cool
Do not try to look up “Internet Censorship” or “SOPA” or “PIPA” on Wikipedia, the giant online encyclopedia, on Wednesday.

SOPA and PIPA are two bills in Congress meant to stop the illegal copying and sharing of movies and music on the Internet, but major Internet companies say the bills would put them in the impossible position of policing the online world.

Wikipedia’s founder, Jimmy Wales, now says his site will go dark for the day on Wednesday, joining a budding movement to protest the two bills.

http://news.yahoo.com/wikipedia-blackout-websites-wikipedia-reddit-others-dark-wednesday-214444829—abc-news.html

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

in b4 calbear

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope wikipedia is smart enough to have all their pages direct to a clear, concise summary of the bills and why they’re bad.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Jan 17, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully not with a picture of one of the editors next to it, though.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I imagine so.

There will also be information on how to contact your local congressmen.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHERE WILL I DO ALL MY RESEARCH NOW?

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I do support this decision by Wikipedia though.

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

this could backfire for wikipedia.

People might find out there are other, more accurate ways to get information on the internet.

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean Google?

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

If you know of such a place that doesn't have a subscription fee

I would like to know what you are smoking.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, there is that.

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

People who do that wouldn’t be using Wikipedia in the first place.

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by Natto on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I do too, it's much smarter than Reddit's black out

That one accomplishes nothing but shutting down one of the most vocal opponents of it for the day.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I've said this before,

but yeah, Reddit is pretty much preaching to the choir. Wikipedia piling on lends some legitimacy to it, though.

It’s not like Reddit would “solve” PIPA in a 24 hour span, anyway. They’d lose too much daylight posting cat pictures.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree. I noticed a facebook conversation last night about SOPA between a couple of my friends who are very far outside of the tech bubble because they heard that Wikipedia is going black. Wikipedia’s shutting down is going to get the issue in front of a much different demographic than Reddit will.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I would be interested to see the demographic breakdown for Wikipedia Use.

I daresay that they are going to get the attention of a loooooooooot of young voters.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, it’s free. It also is always one of the top results whenever I search Google.

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup. Any high school senior or college kid who claims that they don’t use Wikipedia for research (at least an initial overview) is very probably lying. And papers/projects carry a little more weight than looking up random facts or TV show episode lists.

Of course, a lot of kids are already in the tech bubble.

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by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

My 5th grader uses Wikipedia for school reports.

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Well yes, but she can’t vote. Sadly :P.

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by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

A looooooot of young kids who don’t vote.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 17, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

You can actually download Wikipedia in advance of the blackout. It’s not that big a file, either.

Only 7.3G compressed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download#English-language_Wikipedia

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Good thing I have a fast connection

6 mb per second… shouldn’t take too long

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Wild how much data we can put on a flash drive these days.

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by iammclovin on Jan 17, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Or is that how many data?

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by iammclovin on Jan 17, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

maybe we can have massive essays thrown back and forth at the right edge of the screen debating this!

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I had a co-worker that bypassed any debate by constantly referring to it as “dater”.

(Her boss also regularly referred to any massive export of data as “taking a dump”. FWIW.)

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by iammclovin on Jan 17, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Yay, more birthdays!
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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:01 AM PST reply actions  

Also

Surprised that nobody posted this here yet… Hamels is getting $15M this year.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:02 AM PST reply actions  

Interesting

Giants pegged Cain’s number just about right.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

The agreement may well have been based off of what Cain is making. Bit of a chicken-egg argument.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Victor Cruz talking shit
it definitely works out in our favor a little bit that we’re able to get San Fran as opposed to New Orleans, just because of how we feel about them and we understand we have a good chance of winning that game."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/victor-cruz-admits-ny-giants-better-facing-san-francisco-49ers-saints-nfc-championship-article-1.1007181#ixzz1jkC5a0mC

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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST reply actions  

This is a scary game though

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by doubleteapot on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

the game of thrones?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Good.

Let him get complacent right up until the moment he finds out he has become a sock puppet for Dante Whitner.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather play the 49ers than the Saints too.

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by UnleashTheGore on Jan 17, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Not talking shit, getting too comfortable

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Was it him or Manningham that dropped the long TD pass in the first meeting?

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by LincecumFTK on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

’Twas Manningham.

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by Tay on Jan 17, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, in their regular season matchups with each one of those teams, the Saints destroyed the Giants while the 49ers won by 7.

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by Tay on Jan 17, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

things I learn from baseball-reference

In the 80s, the Braves and then the Mets had a minor league pitcher named Bean Stringfellow

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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST reply actions  

He’s an agent now.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

He should team up with Sequoyah Stonecipher, who also seems to have washed out of the minor leagues. Imagine the possibilities!

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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Stonecipher and Stringfellow, LLP

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

TELL ME THE SALARY
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by DFARowand on Jan 17, 2012 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

What did Jonathan get?

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Think Sanchez got less than Melky?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Melky strikes again!

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

JonHeymanCBS
jonathan sanchez $5.6M plus pbs. #royals

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

i want some of that

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

About what was expected.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Presented by

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

How pissed off will people around here be

if Sanchez gets his Randy Johnson on for the Royals? I’d be way more pissed than if Wheeler turns out good.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

As his former adoptive father, I will be very disappointed but happy for him.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Happy for him, yes. But much more annoyed at the Giants.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

A friend of mine ran into him at Ross in Pacifica on Sunday. So random.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, good for her. He is pretty.

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

He said hi to her, and she wished him good luck with the Royals. :)

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Awww, I wish I could wish him luck in person.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s a sweetheart.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Did she say how he looked when she mentioned the Royals?

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL, no. He just said thanks.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I want to give him a hug and tell him it’ll be ok. And thank him for the nono.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what he was buying at Ross.

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

It was his GF who was shopping, apparently.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Jeeze, Jonathan, take her to Macy’s at least!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

My friend said there isn’t really anywhere else to shop in Pacifica. But, yeah, he should be taking her to Louix Vuitton and Chanel.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

*Louis

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s the point of having a rich jock boyfriend if you still have to shop at Ross? Well, ok, there may be other reasons.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I should ask her what they bought.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I can’t think of anywhere you can go shopping in Pacifica except Ross. You’d have to go to Daly City or San Bruno.

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Unless you need a surfboard!

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

You go over the hill to Colma to shop.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

obviously leather jacket

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

More white leather shoes

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

you haven't lived

until you’ve worn a white tux

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

All leather everything.

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by Natto on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Leather contact lenses.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

eyebrow shapers

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Me, too. Us talented and devastatingly handsome Columbus college grads gotta stick together.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you pretty, too?

by City Girl on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

He and I are basically twins.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be that upset. It’s baseball, it happens. I would’ve liked for them to trade him for a non-arb player, but oh well. Melky will have to do. And he will, because he’s on the team. I think he’ll hit 30 HR and drive in 120 of the Giants’ 300 runs.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

OT - GoT

I’m finally caught up on the show. The various endings were no easier to watch than they were to read.

Also, I heard that Feast for Crows has no Dany, Jon, or Bran. This makes me sad. I need to read faster so I can get to Dragons.

Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian

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by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 11:16 AM PST reply actions  

Damn it.

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by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

But that’s like all my favorite characters! :(

Is there Arya and Davos at least?

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by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Davos is in Dance

There is Arya. The highlight of the book, I think, is Brienne’s amazing POV, but there’s a lot to be said for Jaime Lannister, who as usual has all the best lines.

There’s also a lot of Ironborn stuff so I guess it depends on how you feel about insane Vikings. I’m a big fan; other people, not so much.

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I suppose I can be well-satisfied by Jaime being awesome. Brienne’s thing should be interesting at the very least.

From the little I’ve seen so far…the Ironborn are kind of fun. I don’t love them but they’re a good read. Asha rubs me the wrong way though.

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by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Asha's one of the POVs

You might like her more once you get into her head; personally, she’s one of my favorite characters. Partially cause, you know, she’s a crafty Viking lady and that’s hot.

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s possible. I have a couple of friends who absolutely love her. But from Theon’s POV she just came across as obnoxious and arrogant to me. Which well…that’s probably how Theon feels.

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by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

oh she totally is

Runs in the family, I guess. They’re all their own special flavor of d-bag.

My boy's got CLOSER MENTALITY!

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Jan 17, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The highlight of the book, I think, is Brienne’s amazing POV

Surprising, that was easily my least favorite part of the book (possibly any of the books). I loved Brienne as a character, right up to the point were we got her POV. Then, she just bored the ever-loving crap out of me.

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by marcello on Jan 17, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I wanted to like Brienne

but I couldn’t. Frankly, GRRM doesn’t write the female characters that well. I like Dany WAAAAAAAY more in the series than in the book, and I kind of knew that was what Martin was going for, even as I read it.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I adore Dany in all forms, but I liked Sansa and Arya better in the show. Catelyn annoys me wherever she is.

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by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I dug it.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Grammar questions

“We are very sorry about these errors and the resultant delay” or “resulting delay”?

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:17 AM PST reply actions  

I don’t see why it couldn’t be either, really.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Jan 17, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Either is correct, but “resultant” always seems ugly and pointless to me.

by Evan on Jan 17, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t go Anglo-Saxon when there’s a pretty Romance equivalent.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks guys for the replies

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

We are sorry for the errors and the delay.

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 17, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

How 'bout

“We are very sorry about these errors and the delay they caused”

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 17, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

"Shit happens. Deal."

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The NYC subway

just switched their automated “train delayed” announcement from “we appreciate your patience” to “we apologize for any inconvenience.”

11 01 10
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

It could have both

Though it is clearly well-informed, we find his argument unconvincing; however, the possibility that we are too stupid to comprehend it deserves serious consideration. Germane Literature: The Cutting Edge 13:2, 4/2006

by Lunkus on Jan 17, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotta love being apologized to by an pre-recorded message.

Though with that having been said, when I lived in New York, my stock response to "we appreciate your patience was to mutter, “what patience?”

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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It should be “we WOULD appreciate your patience.”

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by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I suggest you ask the in-house lawyer to look it over.

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 17, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

wow, Colts fired Caldwell

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

kinda disappointing

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Meh...

guess they just want to start fresh

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

The guy couldn’t even win when he had Manning, not that great of a coach

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, ok.

We ARE on the same page.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

My ESPN App just says he was retained.

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by scout6 on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

It cost 400K to downgrade the #5 spot in the rotation.

Bargain.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

Holy Moly.

Rick Perry called the Turkish government “Islamic terrorists?”

I am disappoint at the levels of rhetoric the Dead Candidates Running are attaining.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

Is this a reply fail, or an attempt to avoid champagne room shenanigans?

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice try.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

That would have been a good idea.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Rick Perry might be stupid. Note: this is not a comment on his political positions.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

You can't separate the two anymore. That was outlawed.

But I really think putting that much pressure on Freddy Sanchez to carry the offense is a hilarious stupid mistake and hope.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't know that was a premise.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

You can’t separate the two anymore. That was outlawed.

I don’t know what this means. Or what it has to do with Freddy Sanchez.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahahaha OH WOW! They should ask for him to point to Turkey on a map just for fun.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

/points at Ms. Turkey from Carl's Jr. Commercial

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I am not sure why anyone cares

Obama is going to win again anyway; and it won’t be particularly close.

/full-on champagne mode ENGAGED!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

This is true.

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Why do y’all think so?

by Evan on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s basically 2004 but reversed.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

This.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The history of incumbents in elections generally?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The level of antipathy the right seems to bear towards the presumptive Republican candidate.

And the possibility of an independent Paul (or- LOL- Trump) campaign splitting the vote.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

This should also end the discussion.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

True

Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker

One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010

by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

/starts popping open bottles

What will it be today? Dom Perignon? Bollinger?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

On the fence about that one.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

MERCY!

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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by scout6 on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I would do that.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you get up in the morning and think to yourself, “what trades can I propose that involve beloved Giants players?”

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I started to hate you a little bit when you said that Cain and Lincecum should be “someone else’s problem.”

@legaleagle88
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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

But he’s happy to take on Reyes’ hammies!

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish I could hate GP. Alas, I find him charming and irresistible.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s awesome. And so is Calbear.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

GiantPain is sort of like the Yankees to me. It’s fun to root against him, but I end up agreeing with him sometimes, and life is more fun with him around.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

GiantPain is sort of like the Yankees to me.

That’s mean.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t say the Dodgers.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

that would be cruel.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Point taken.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate the Dodgers in a mean way. The venom I spew toward the Yankees is well-meaning and cheerful.

"Baseball is a red-blooded sport for red-blooded men. It's no pink tea, and mollycoddles had better stay out." -Ty Cobb

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

/Closeted AL Team Yankees guy

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

/assumes fetal position whilst awaiting a deluge of hatred

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Im a Yankees fan. No shame.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

THERE SHOULD BE

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

NEW YORK IS A NICE CITY OK! /runs away crying

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You have no idea

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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I’m hella jelly.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

You guys look alike

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

All McCoven look the same.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

we are all Pedro Feliz

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

True

Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Why is there a controller on the staff?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

To trick people into playing with his “staff”

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

This is an old photo of me. I now wear NES-themed glasses.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t forget the Captain N style belt buckle.

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by Natto on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I watched a documentary on the Angry Winnebago Guy and part of it dealt with how fucked up the Star Wars Kid is due to the negative publicity from that video.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

my friend's facebook comment on that pic

“I see right leaning people…”

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Leaning?

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

fallen?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

rec'd

Pictures like this make me think I am crazy to stay in SD when my girl wants to move to SF.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish I could rec it 2 more times and green it then

That is some MCC dedication. But the SF comment was directed at the ability to go to more games and meet more Mcoven in general.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

must. resist. tasteless. remark.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

lulz

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

TMI

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

oh wow lol

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t we already have this conversation?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

We did! It’s a lateral move.

by Evan on Jan 17, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I would do it.

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I just wish that sort of thing wasn’t getting broadcast to other countries as “this guy might represent America,” just as those countries are not summed up by six dudes torching US and Israeli flags in the street.

11 01 10
Veni Vidi Vixi

by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes it’s a Danish flag

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

mmmmm, Danish.

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by scout6 on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Because they have no taste

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Zing.

But we don’t even eat them.

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

we do this with a lot of foods

Chinese Chicken Salad, for example.

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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

“Asian” salad

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by Natto on Jan 17, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

It's got mandarin oranges!

It has to be Asian!

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

If there are peanuts it must be Thai!

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by Ceora on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Rick Perry. He just isn’t presidential material.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

In the same way that my cat isn’t presidential material.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Like him in the sense that he’s charming. I’m not that familiar with his past legislative history. I did read about him wanting to turn a university into a private company or something. LOL

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Pay professors on comission!

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by Lunkus on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but what Sandoval

I mean, he’s first year arb. I wonder how much money he’ll get. And Romo, too. What kind of raise will he get?

by GiantPain on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

CAIN FOR BAUTISTA

GET ON IT BRAZ

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I like him too. Then again I like most people that make my world more entertaining and absurd.

by BestHyperboleEver on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Follow-up
“The governor was responding to the questioners references to violence against women and to association with Hamas, I think both of which are things that many people do associate as he said with Islamic terrorists,” Coates told reporters in the spin room. “He was referring to those things, and while he would welcome the opportunity to work with Turkey on regional issues like Syria or Iraq, this kind of behavior on the part of that country is disturbing and I think we should concerned about it.”

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

The article I saw said he was talking about their support for the flotillas Israel keeps stopping.

Which I guess would fall under “support for Hamas.” Kinda.

Anyway, LOL “the spin room.”
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

So. Trading Sanchez and Torres to save money resulted in spending more money.

Even when the Giants have a shitty offseason strategy they cannot execute correctly.

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by scout6 on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

Who said it was a cost-saving move?

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

David Price resigned with the Rays for 1 year/4.35 mil?

that seems unbelievably low to me

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by slackersphere17 on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

First year arb
The Rays avoided arbitration with starter David Price on a deal worth $4.35MM, tweets MLBTR’s Ben Nicholson-Smith. Price’s salary matches Dontrelle Willis’ first-time pitcher record set six years ago. I thought he’d do better. It seems the “raise argument” did not apply on top of Price’s $1.25MM 2011 salary, which represented the last year of a Major League deal he signed upon being drafted.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

GiantPain'd
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Assuming Beltran woulda picked SF over STL for the same $$$. RT @LoganDobson: Affeldt+Casilla+Melky=Beltran + a million dollars.

Why wouldn’t he? Does Schulman know something that he’s not telling us?

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

Didn't Beltran make a mention about SF should improve it's offense towards the end of last season?

In that scenario, he would be the only offense pick up of the year, would he come back if that were true?

Not saying that’s how it would be, but Henry could be raising that point.

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by scout6 on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

He wanted a true lead-off hitter. That’s why I thought the trade for Angel Pagan was a move to entice him to sign.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

CalBear949 is Henry Schulman!

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait…I thought I was Larry Baer?

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Lorry Of Beer?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I found out this past weekend that my dad got first base seats to the 1989 World Series from someone who worked for Bob Lurie.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I first read this as “my dad got to first base with someone who worked for Bob Lurie.”

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That is how he got the tickets

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Hank is assuming right

In that you can’t assume Beltran wanted to stay in SF. Having another “bidder” very likely would have ratcheted the price up. No reason to think STL would not have used more Pujols money to replace his lineup spot.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That's ridiculous

why would supply and demand apply for FAs. He clearly would have come to the Giants!

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He had offers from at least two clubs

But, realistically, what would having the Giants in the mix have done? It’s not like it would have doubled the price. Could it have driven up the price a million or two dollars? Sure. But it’s not like the Giants being involved would suddenly make him outside our price range. Affeldt Cabrera and Casilla will make 13.2 million next year. Beltran will make 13. Maybe if the Giants were involved, it would’ve been 14 or 15.

by GiantPain on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

and maybe a 3rd year

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You think having the Giants involved would’ve nearly doubled his total contract demand?

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely. The worst thing the Giants can do at this point is show interest in free agents.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

E6D knows about

my belief as to Beltran’s salary expectations and the reasoning.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The Giants didn’t want to make an offer because their lineup is too shitty for Beltran to consider returning?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

You cant assume the same sum

Since adding a team changes the formula.

Is it possible Beltran would have been with the Giants for 13-15 mil? Yes

Can you just go ahead and assume it? No

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Add to the equation

How happy will we be now if we had lost on Beltran, dropped 15 mil in payroll, dropped 3 out of 4: J Sanchez, Affeldt, Lopez or (Torres + Ramirez).

Where are we then? I am going to guess: Angrier

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd be fine with it

We could sign Fielder with that and a bit more!

by GiantPain on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as he can strike Helton out in the 8th we are good

But to be serious, Giants gambled on Beltran once and he promptly went on the DL.

There are plenty for for against Beltran points, but I still don’t think you can assume he takes the same deal.

Blerg

by Myemail21479 on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you assume he wouldn’t have?

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by jhiat00 on Jan 17, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that 15 million would be pretty useful

Of course, that assumes the team would put that money back into the available payroll.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

/signs moar lefty relievers

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by jhiat00 on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps

I am not a fan of dismantling the bullpen for a free agent hitter. 1, maybe (read: maybe) 2 pitchers, but 3? No thank you.

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by mhad on Jan 17, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

lol deadspin mailbag
Would you rather do (edited for this family website) Scarlett Johansson or ride a dragon?

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

/rec’d

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

There are a lot of factors that need to be assumed. Consent? Is the dragon domesticated? etc. etc.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Is the dragon domesticated?

For some reason, this made me laugh out loud for realsies.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I am here as well.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that even a real choice?

That’s kinda of like whether I should root for the Giants or the Bums.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

How about Falkor?

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

“ride a dragon” means do some heroin, right?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 17, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ride the Snake

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Jan 17, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

The west is the best.

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

This is seriously the funniest thing ever. It was before Will Ferrell was famous.

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

/sabean drives by

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I forgot about Will Ferrell being in the end of the sketch.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the best part!

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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

We used to call smoking speed off of tin foil ‘chasing the dragon’.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

When actions had no consequences!

But actually, they were pretty damn good.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinda like when I take a double dose of Sudafed

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 17, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Can I do both at the sometime?

by Turf_Toe_ on Jan 17, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Dragon. It’s not even really close and that has nothing to do with Johansson.

by chilibean_3 on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL SCORECENTER

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

Quick OT. I was watching the niners/saints game this weekend but had to run out of the house do to a family emergency. So I was listening to it on the radio. Well I was until the 2:00 minute warning, which occurred at 8:00 PM. 8:00 PM also happens to be the time that the flyers pregame show began that night, thus the station changed over, without mention, to the flyers pregame show with two minutes left in what was possibly the most exciting 2 minutes of football in the past 10 years.

I hate this place

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by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

Lunch time!

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by jctGamer on Jan 17, 2012 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

Clam chowder and a turkey sammich

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by Natto on Jan 17, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Numbers 1 and 3 on foods I hate list.

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by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

We can never be friends.

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by Natto on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t planning on it.

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by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

How can you hate clam chowder?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Clams don’t belong in a chowder.

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by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Weirdo.

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by jcb9 on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I will have to respectfully disagree with you.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

This statement is incorrect.

Please explain what does belong in chowder.

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by nvsfg on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever else happens to be in my garbage disposal when I dump it out.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Corn

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Because

I don’t like clams?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Something we agree on!

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Whaaaaa? /allasiansloveseafood

Just clams or all shellfish?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

like lobster but that’s about it.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You would literally die of starvation if you visited my inlaws in Japan.
Hey at least lobster is really really good! Do you like crab too?

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

no

I am not a fan of “fishiness”…

I visited Japan and survived on ramen (the good kind) and 7-eleven.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha no tonkatsu or other non seafoodish stuff? but MMMMMMM ramen

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

that's where the

7-eleven comes in.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

eeeewww lol

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

7-eleven in Japan (and in Taiwan) is awesome.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They are pretty nice in Korea too, but there must have been better options available.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but that would probably involve 1) speaking the language and 2) spending more than 2 days in any one location.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah this makes sense, I was lucky enough to have my wife to translate. And some old friends. Without that I probably would have ended up at 7-11 too.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

In Taiwan, I can find good eats but 7-eleven is still an acceptable alternative at times.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s nice to know Calbear is a contrarian in other areas besides baseball.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

No…7-eleven in Asia is really nice.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant the general “Asian who hates fish” meme.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

oh

Is that a real meme?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

You would be surprised, even dunkin donuts is pretty nice in asia.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Dunkin Donuts in New England is pretty nice.

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by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

of course! I’m Asian!

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

When mussels are cooked perfectly they are incredible, but that happens rarely and clams are more often than not cooked wrong.

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by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the right way to cook mussels?

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Not in chowder.

BBQ is awesome.

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by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Directly on the grill, or on a griddle of some sort?

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by speckops on Jan 17, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

FOR THE CAT, AMIRITE?

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw, but clam chowdah is so good. Creaminess can cause problems for the lactose intolerant but it’s worth it.

by non sequitur on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I love chowdah, just not seafood chowdah. I also love mussels and especially clams.

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by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Makes me wonder what delicious food is number 2.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Tuna or chicken salad

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by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I like chicken salad but not tuna.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I am in this marine vessel.

by non sequitur on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Steak and salad

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Pad Thai

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by rotorueter on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

OT: Artichoke Soup

I had that over the weekend. I think it was the first time I was ok with dill.

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by iammclovin on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Salad

We have left over carmelized onions and peppers from last night’s dinner, too.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Some BBQ Chicken sandwich thing with “Tiger” fries from the Korean/Japanese fusion truck outside.

The fries were really good. The sandwich was less good.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been sort of ‘meh’ on those trucks in general… I’ve had some good stuff, but nothing that made the lines seem worthwhile.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I usually pass for the same reason, but the lines were really short today. Maybe the cold or the new noodle sculpture in front of my building kept people away.

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I kind of like the Irish/Eritrean truck that sometimes shows up across the street.

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by Johnny Disaster on Jan 17, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Spinach salad

With feta, pecans and a pear. Very tasty.

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by kdl on Jan 17, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

What grade would you give the Giant's offseason so far?

I’ll go with a D.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

Gentleman’s C-.

by wcw on Jan 17, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Greatest Christmas movie ever.

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by free f.p. #14 on Jan 17, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the one where the kid wants a BB gun right? The name is escaping me.

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by calgiants86 on Jan 17, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

A Christmas Story. So good.

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by free f.p. #14 on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

My two favorite lines.
Now, I had heard that word at least ten times a day from my old man. He worked in profanity the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It was his true medium; a master.
In the heat of battle my father wove a tapestry of obscenities that as far as we know is still hanging in space over Lake Michigan.

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by free f.p. #14 on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL editing
Giants Prospect Andrew Susac show’s off his strength tonight on Inside the Clubhouse: The Off-Season 9pm CSN

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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

/elbow ligament shreds

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

And Victor Martinez out for the year... wow

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
big blow for #tigers. team announces v-mart has suffered torn acl.

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Ouch.

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Crazy, i'm a little depressed today, as somewhat of a fan of the Tigers

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you please arrange that ?

Take someone, anyone, but get it done.

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by nvsfg on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait

which Martinez is that again? Isn’t he kind of old?

2012 is going to be awesome!

by Tortured on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Victor Martinez

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

and he's 33

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The “catcher/firstbaseman” DH.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Bummer

Is it February 19 yet?

by j14 on Jan 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

For a split second I thought you guys were talking about Rectum Face and marveled at all the sympathy.

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by iammclovin on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Hawt

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

But would it be better than riding a dragon?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t like what you with otters!

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by Lunkus on Jan 17, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Man... listening to Damon Bruce right now talking about how a Saints fan went to a game

with his two daughters, and was being harassed, bad, fans talking about how the girls mom is a “whore” and this and that, i know every team has these fans, if i ever heard that at a sporting event, i’m calling the police

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

“49ers fans are despicable and classless. Alex Smith is Fresno trash.” – friend from grade school. We grew up in same city, even. He’s a huge NY Giants’ fan. Always has been.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

lol, yea, every team has got those fans. What a moron. And that Harbaugh guy is cocky!!!

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s using the parking lot attack and the shirt Smith wore in the press conference on Saturday as the basis for his opinions… I’m sure the aforementioned classlessness will only add to it.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha, so this guy is just a little ignorant basically. 49er organization is just straight TRASH, right?

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by PiKAgiant on Jan 17, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Eddie D bought those championships, FYI

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s not ignorant. He’s willful and arrogant.

by Every6thDay on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Generally speaking

Fans at football games suck.

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by Solidarity on Jan 17, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Truth provable by syllogism:

a) Football is vastly better on TV than in person.
b) Anyone to whom this is not obvious is a great fool.
c) Ergo, any person at a football game is a great fool.
d) Only a great fool would reach for what he was given.
e) I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.

Wait, what?

11 01 10
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by WhereThere'sAWillieThere'sAMays on Jan 17, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

SHIFT-AYY

’Sup doods? Have I missed anything important in the last week?

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by jhiat00 on Jan 17, 2012 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

Melky got 6 million.
Raoyals gave Sanchez 5.6 million
Lincecum and the team submitted their arb numbers but they haven’t been leaked yet.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Wait… weren’t the Giants supposed to save money on the Sanchez trade?

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by jhiat00 on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ll make it up in volume.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

now more stupid per $$$ than any other MLB franchise!!

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by Merope on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy crap! Thanks for sharing.

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by jhiat00 on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

This kind of blows a 1.2mil sized hole in the post that I painstakingly wrote up the other day.

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by mhad on Jan 17, 2012 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

Can't do math.

1.6mil

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by mhad on Jan 17, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Timmy's numbers

Lincecum files for $21.5M, Gaints counter with $17M. I think they’ll settle for just below $20M before arb.

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by Fla-Giant on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

That

would break an arb record right? If I’m Timmy, I say ‘screw it’ and roll the dice just for that reason. 4.5 million is no big deal if you are Timmy, at least in my opinion. Then again, if I had 4.5 million dollars…

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jan 17, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

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