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Around SBN: Drug Testing, Alistair Overeem & UFC 146's Potential Legacy

By David Schoenfield

The genesis for this article came out of all the recent Hall of Fame discussions. A lot of arguments were along the lines of "Tim Raines was one of the best players in baseball in the mid-'80s," or "You know, Don Mattingly was the best in the game there for a few years," or perhaps "Barry Larkin was as good an all-around player as anybody at his peak."

None of those statements are necessarily incorrect. But are they good Hall of Fame arguments? How many players can you claim were "one of the best in the game" over a period of years? So here’s what I did. I went back to 1969 and looked at each five-year span to determine the five best players in baseball, based on cumulative Baseball-Reference wins against replacement over those five years. (For the purposes of this piece, I looked just at position players.)

So here we go, with the usual caveats about WAR. You’ll see a lot of the same players and you’ll see a lot of Mike Schmidt and Barry Bonds and Albert Pujols in the top spot. But while the best player may not change all that often, it’s interesting to see who pops in some of the top five slots.

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Bye Travis and thanks for 2010! Good luck with the Brewers!

by kennv on Jan 16, 2012 7:41 AM PST reply actions  

what amazes me is that he was first in 2001-05, 2nd in 2002-06 and 3rd in 2003-07, all of which include his 2005 where he played in just 14 games and produced a .4 WAR.

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"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.

by nostocksjustbonds on Jan 16, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Initial thoughts...

Wow. Sal Bando. I’d never thought of him as an elite player. Nor Cesar Cedeno, for that matter. And I’m realy surprised Dave Parker didn’t make a top-5 list for any five-year span. I guess Cobra’s peak really was just too short.

by biff pocoroba on Jan 16, 2012 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

Cesar Cedeno in his prime was generally considered a guy who probably would have been a HOF contender is he didn’t have to play half his games in the Astrodome (the anti-Coors field), and then the injuries kicked in. But he was a very great 5 tool player.

The shift from the Astrodome to Minute Maid park creates interesting rifts in memory because of the exaggerated change in offensive environment from one to the other. During the HOF talk I saw people argue that Bagwell gets hurt by people who don’t realize how much of his career came at the Astrodome, and conversely that Biggio’s chances are helped because the shift to Minute Maid hid how great his offensive decline was in the second half of his career.

by Roger on Jan 17, 2012 6:47 AM PST up reply actions  

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