Tasty, tasty sour grapes -- Or, what to look forward to for the next month
Sour grapes. Mmmmm. So sweet and delicious, except for all that sour part. The parable isn't about a fox who loses, gets butt-hurt, and lashes out on the internet, possibly with all-caps fury. That's what a lot of folks think sour grapes means. But it's about a fox who convinces himself that his life is better without what he can't get. I love baseball. I love the Giants. When the Giants make the playoffs, it's swell and exciting and amazing and swell. There's a hum in the air. Them's good grapes.
But you know what? It's kind of nice not to stress out so much. Dropping this far back in the NL West at the beginning of September isn't the worst thing in the world. It could have fallen apart in the last week of the season (so painful), or maybe the Giants could have squeaked in the playoffs only to be bounced in the first round by the Phillies (oh, how, we'd never hear the end of it), or maybe they could have made it to the NLCS or World Series and suffered some humiliating end (Orlando Cabrera making an error, for example). Who knows what manner of misery we were spared?
I'll bet those grapes were pretty damned tasty, actually. This sucks.
Surkamp!
I've written it before, but I'm pretty sure Jonathan Sanchez isn't going to be around next season. He has one more season of arbitration, and he's making $5 million now. He could get a bump up to $6M or $7M even after his sub-par 2011. The Giants aren't interested in an extension -- well, I'm not, at least -- so they'll probably look for a Merkin/Moss deal. They might not get one, and Sanchez might even be non-tendered. That could be a stretch, but the point is that we're a long way from Sanchez-for-Zobrist, or whatever wacky trade we could think of in 2009.
A strike-throwing Surkamp could settle this whole thing. A strike-throwing, strikeout-getting Surkamp, rather. He was all over the place for the first couple of innings in his debut, which is pretty understandable. But he could be a viable fifth starter next year. With Lincecaingarnersongurkamp, the Giants would have the first all-looking-forward-to-watching rotation that I can ever remember. I guess there were parts of 2000 that qualified after Russ Ortiz got on a roll. And then just wait until Zack Wheeler's ready!
Also, this post ignores Zito, which the Giants are trying to do as well. So there's that.
Justin Christian
Yeah, his ceiling is as a fifth outfielder -- we'll get just one 2010 Andres Torres in this lifetime, so be happy with it -- but Christian would be an interesting fifth outfielder.
| Year | Age | Tm | Lg | Lev | AB | H | 2B | 3B | HR | SB | CS | BB | SO | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2011 | 31 | 2 Teams | 2 Lgs | AA-AAA | 510 | 150 | 32 | 5 | 14 | 54 | 5 | 58 | 62 | .294 | .376 | .459 | .834 |
| 2011 | 31 | Richmond | EL | AA | 273 | 70 | 12 | 2 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 23 | 31 | .256 | .328 | .359 | .687 |
| 2011 | 31 | Fresno | PCL | AAA | 237 | 80 | 20 | 3 | 10 | 36 | 3 | 35 | 31 | .338 | .428 | .574 | 1.002 |
Dig that stolen-base success rate. Now that the Giants are free from the squatting shackles of Aaron Rowand, they can look for another fifth outfielder. Freedom! Christian can play center, hit lefties, and steal a base. A poor, poor, poor man's Cody Ross. But have you looked at what the Giants can spend this offseason? They'll be poor, poor, poor men.
So I'd love to watch Christian get a few starts, or a least more than a few innings in the late innings. The layman's fascination is with Darren Ford, but I think Christian is more likely to help a major-league team next season.
Brandon Belt starting ever ************* day
Got it. Huff didn't light the world on fire, but Belt didn't seize the chance. Understood. He looks at too many strikes, and he swings through too many pitches. Really, I'm not arguing that the Giants would be 12 games up if he had started the whole season.
But there's value in watching what Belt can do if he's left in the lineup unmolested against righties and lefties alike. Don't make him worry about getting pulled if he's too aggressive, not aggressive, semi-aggressive, aggressive for more than four consecutive hours and needs to seek medical attention, under-aggressive in comparison to how aggressive he should have been in the first place ... just stop. Belt, here's the job. We'll find a spot for you in left or at first. Just do your thing. Let's see how it works.
Yeah. Not going to happen. But it should. And because I'm stupid, I'm looking forward to the possibility.
See? There are things to look forward to, reasons to still watch baseball even as the division slips away. That whole playoff-making stuff was for the birds. This is the real meat of the season, right here. Who will be a part of the 2012 team? 'Cause that's what's really interesting around here, amirite? Has been the whoooooooooole time, if you ask me.
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Mitch
“I saw a wino eating some grapes and I was like ‘Dude, you have to wait.’”
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I started listening to Mitch like a month before he died
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 6, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
I had never heard of him until the day my 20-year-old cat was put down. I was 21 at the time, so you can see how the cat and I were buds. I almost didn’t go out that night, but we went and saw him at the Punchline, and it was magical. Totally made me feel better. Laughter is the best nitrous oxide.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 6, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I started listening to him after he died
Then found out he was dead like six months after discovering his awesome. It kinda hurt.
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
I knew who he was for the longest time, but had never gotten around to listening to him. I was actually the one who told my friend (who is a HUGE fan) about his death. (Heath Ledger, too, actually.) Finally listened to him earlier this year when I was visiting said friend in LA and we had to drive to a wedding.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I really want to get my hands on a copy of his movie
But I haven’t been able to find the damn thing anywhere.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Los Enchilados or whatever it was called
The indie movie he made about running a mexican restaurant.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Enchiladas!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I've never heard of this comedian before
I must be old and lame :(
"Bruce Wayne is the Brian Wilson of Gotham." -DrDC
saw him on tour with Lewis Black and Dave Attell
in like 2003? good times.
I remember he died right at the end of March, so the news of his death hit the internet on April 1st like it was some stupid, fucked joke.
And they all want SUNCHIPS!
That was the line that solidified my Mitch love.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely one of my favorites. Distinctive laugh and the donut receipt ones are up there, too. And plenty of others I can’t remember off the top of my head…
The first six innings are overrated.
A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer.
What the fuck is a sesa-me?!
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
A broken escalator is just stairs.
Sorry for the convenience.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. Stolen 6/11/11.
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I’m fine with the Giants going to the playoffs every other year. Gives us time to save up the $$ to buy the damn tickets… gives the pitchers’ arms a little time to rest… umm umm yeah… so uh next year!
Screw that. I want Sawx fans to be jealous of us
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So peaceful & quiet now.
Stress-free. A pastime. Ahh. I can unbuckle my belt and unbutton my pants. Nothing to do in October except wait for my birthday.
I rhyme with freak.
Plus, Thanksgiving’s right around the corner, and the leaves are changing…it’s just a nice time of the year.
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Yeah. Fall is a great time to be in our area of the country.
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I’ve never experienced autumn in Tennessee, so I hope it’s as lovely as I imagine.
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I think you’ll like it, but perhaps not as much as those of us who are thrilled to have the muggy heat behind us.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Leaves changing?
Snugglin’ weather???
It’s 100 fricking degrees here today and the only thing changing will be the grasses: from brown to incendiary !
Stupit fall east coast bias! Get back to me in November when the leaves will start changing color on the trees and the temps will be below 80!!!
SACRAMENTLOL
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I used to just love the beginning of the school year scripted curricula. Especially when we were a year round school and started in August. “Look, look at the trees! See the leaves? Pretty leaves!! Red! Yellow!! Orange!!! Don’t forget your sweater!!! Feel the chill in the air?”
The kids would look at you like you were crazy… “Mommy!!! Teacher’s trippin!!!”
I always think this when it’s time for seasonal beers and such. “Who wants to drink a thick pumpkin ale in the middle of summer?!”
Dude, this is San Francisco. We don’t have seasons. Gimme my goddamn Pumking.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m impressed that Pumking exists in California.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
When it comes to California, sometimes I don’t know jack….. o’lantern.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
If you do, you’re out of your gourd.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a cornucopia of pumpkin/harvest related puns to use and you had to steal mine?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
A world without theft is just another one of your pie in the sky ideas.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I just wish people would stop calabashing others’ jests.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Sep 6, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I yam really getting sick of it!
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It doesn’t. :’( I had to order it from a place outside St Louis.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, you order beer by mail? What sort of sorcery is that?
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AWESOME sorcery!
http://www.ratebeer.com/MailOrder.asp (And this doesn’t even list the place I use.)
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you!!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Shore.
Shipping costs suck but whaddayagonnado?
There are always people willing to bottle-swap, too, but that probably won’t help with shipping costs. I’m considering getting into that because everyone else clamors for Pliny the Elder, which comes out of our faucets.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like he wasn’t out of his gourd after all.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa
http://elysianbrewing.com/greatpumpkinbeerfest.html
I don’t really like Seattle, but man…
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks. I now have “Five hundred twenty-five thousand six hundred minutes Five hundred twenty-five thousand moments….” permanently looping in my brain
Fog, Sun, Rain, Sun/fog, Fog.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yeah, we have that month of heat and that month of rain, and a day or four of each sprinkled around the year randomly, but in the end, it’ll probably be ~55 degrees and foggy for a good chunk of the day.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Granted, we’re nowhere near the apex of fall. The remnants of Tropical Storm Lee are keeping temps down in the 70s during the day. We’ll be back up in the 80s this weekend as the system pulls off to the northeast.
I’m just mentioning things I look forward to in the season.
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100?
Try 102-106, with a “low” of 83-85.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
He’ll regret eating all that turkey when he goes to unbutton his pants to relieve the pressure, only to remember he unbuttoned them back in September.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I like jeggings
because they’re more forgiving fit-wise while I’m losing weight – I can nurse ’em along for a couple of sizes.
That’s my story, and until weight loss comes with an automatic stipend for new clothes, I’m sticking to it…
NorCal passion trapped in SoCal pain...
I wanna rage.
Anyone have any idea why Zack Wheeler only pitched 2 innings his last outing (sept 1)?
Oh also, 27IP 6ER; 5BB; 31 SO
#SelfishWheeler
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
If we didn't have a reputation for developing pitchers
I’d be really depressed and hopeless after seeing what Wheeler has done since leaving us.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
He said after being traded that he went back to his high school delivery. I cant believe thats all he needed to do but it looks to be the case.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
http://optionedtofresno.blogspot.com/2011/05/evolution-of-zack-wheelers-pitching.html
High School:
“While the ball explodes off Wheeler’s hand, there are a lot of moving parts in his pitching motion…his violent delivery was an issue with scouts, and many felt that the Giants would have to refine it in order to protect him over the long term.”
It seems like he was a project that was viewed as a probable failure with regards to starting pitching. His change back to his high school mechanics seems to be an expedient and maybe even desperate attempt to get back effectiveness on the mound. I think this explains why Sabean said he now projects to be a closer.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I have heard from reliable sources that despite what they said in public, the Giants were not high on Wheeler as a high end starting pitching prospect. I would be much more confident in that assessment now if he was sucking. But I guess it all is TINSTAPP until he does this somewhere other than A-ball.
Giants tend to be right about pitching. Only one major mistake: Joe Nathan.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I don’t really trust the Giants’s judgment anymore than I do the rest of the scouting community. They all seem to love Wheeler.
Check out Catch-28.com, a blog about Buster Posey and the San Francisco Giants.
I think that is right
Wheelerpro45 Zack wheeler
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@tpgMets yeah 40-50 pitches tonight.
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Wheelerpro45 Zack wheeler
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@RealKenDick pitch count going intothe playoffs
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The thing is that you have to buy a bunch of merchandise and spend a bunch of time and energy watching if they make the playoffs. With the upcoming NFL season and all I don’t really want the Giants to make the post season anyway.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I would rather be poorer and watching the Giants in the playoffs....
instead of being richer and watching the Niners.
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by garbanzo24 on Sep 6, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least there’s Stanford.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
by El Person on Sep 6, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t feel comfortable rooting for Stanford, since there’s a nonzero chance I’ll go to Cal.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
It just occurred to me that there is a non-zero number of people here who cannot attend McC meetups if they are held in bars.
“Bars that serve food” are better known as “restaurants.” Not 100% of the time as it applies to allowing under-21s but that’s the rule of thumb.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
NO.
We can watch the Sharks.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
You can also watch the Warriors….
…oh, wait…nevermind
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF HOW GRAPES TASTE!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
And then just wait until Zack Wheeler’s ready!
sob
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
That was supposed to be
* sob *
but I forgot about the auto format.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry kdl
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He’s only like 9 months older than Zack.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
That definitely helps.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
Are you going to the SJ Giants on the 11th?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I am! Also, 17th, 18th and 19th, if necessary.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool!
I convinced my family to go for my birthday. Now I just need to get off my ass and get tickets. Or stay on my ass and get tickets.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, I’ve had mine for months. (Shocking, right?)
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It's kind of funny
Beltran went to the Giants looking for the playoffs; but Wheeler is the only one who will see anything like that
New September Goal
Just finish ahead of the Dodgers.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions
I get this. I do.
But hoping they tank is something I can’t do.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I think we have a better chance to make the playoffs.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Bottom 15 right?
16th is the Reds at 69 wins. And a good number of teams sitting at 70 wins. It would be pretty hard.
16th is Reds?
Clearly you must be mistaken. The Reds are one of the top 3 teams in the NL, or so I heard.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Tank tank tank!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Stop! Stop it!
Aw, now I’m flustered.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Hopefully Belt and Crawford play
by Anonymous1337 on Sep 6, 2011 1:23 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I am curious to see if Pill is any good.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
but
WE’RE IN THIS THING™
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
I am with you on this. We might as well give the guy a chance. Couldn’t be much worse than Huff is right now.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
so they’ll probably look for a Merkin/Moss deal
That sounds terribly itchy and uncomfortable.
The first six innings are overrated.
Anyone with a mossy merkin must live in a humid area.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm really glad we're falling out of the race
I was starting to get very worried that Buster wasn’t going to feel needed any more if we won without him.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Lol now he has the pressure
of anchoring this offense next year.
by Anonymous1337 on Sep 6, 2011 1:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Worked out ok, in 2010
and that was joining us almost halfway through the season!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
He called every inning of a World Championship run. I’m not worried about Buster facing pressure.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So I’m the only one here who’s feeling kinda melancholy about the season (prematurely) winding down, then? I dunno. Partially it’s the fact that the season actually ends before the first weekend in October for the first time in forever, partially it’s the crushing disappointment of August (and I wasn’t even around for the last week and a half, when they went from 1 game back to 7 games back), and partially it’s that there will be only a few more weeks for the Giants to be introduced with the “World Champion” tag in front of them.
I imagine that reigning beauty pageant winners feel this way in the final weeks before turning over the crown over to someone else.
/overwrought metaphor
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I did see Bochy walk off the field with mascara running down his face the other day.
The first six innings are overrated.
And I don’t want the World Series to see me…
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
LEAVE AUBREY ALONE!!!!
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I was plenty sad about the season, but I did my mourning a few weeks ago when they were losing series to the Pirates and Astros. It’s like the Giants have been in Hospice and now they are just peacefully passing on.
Extending the metaphor...
Beltran was a costly bone marrow transplant that didn’t take until too late.
Rowand & Tejada were last-ditch tumor removals, to give the patient one last chance to rally.
Now we get some soothing Surkamp and a nice Pill to ease the pain until the end gently arrives.
Giants baseball: Together We're Crippled
I don't know if this is really a metaphor I want to see extended.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Beltran was like rain on your wedding day
He was the free ride, but you’d already paid.
He was the good advice that you just didn’t take.
And who would have thought? It figures.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
You could argue that Beltran was that late-night trip to the ATM in Vegas when you are already down $3K. Your wife is begging you to just come to bed where she will make you forget about the money, but instead you are convinced you can win it all back. You proceed to lose another $35K and she leaves you.
Except they were in first place and looking good so it’s more like going to the ATM up $30000 but so dazzled by your run of good luck you don’t quit while you’re ahead and wind up blowing it all on three really bad hands of blackjack
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
They were in first anyway.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in spring training.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He'll probably get a look with zero chance of making the team.
If he impresses, he’ll probably skip Richmond and go straight to Fresno.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Wasn’t he at Spring Training this year?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Probably a bad time to mention I didn’t get a chance to talk with Holly Kernan when I was at KALW. She was busy laying down tracks for Crosscurrents, so it was a little hi-and-goodbye sort of thing.
But I’ll say this: She is a woman of grace and charm with a marvelous sense of humor and the ability to do about fifty things at once. Being in her newsroom was quite amazing.
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Cool.
How was your visit to the Frank Stanton Studios?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
It was awesome. The Marketplace folks are class, all the way around. I learned a lot about the production of the show and talked to them about the formatic underpinnings of their style. I was able to learn about some new stuff they’re offering, and took those ideas back east with me. It was a great experience.
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The Beltran trade was the only thing that caused my optimism to tick up (albeit briefly) post All-Star Break. I think I was already starting to make peace with the fact that this team was too injured, old and useless to do much of anything. Whenever I made that Leslie Knope playoff .gif was when I was more certain than uncertain about my feelings concerning their chances.
I’m with you. All the Word Champion stuff is already looking SO last year and I always get sad when the season is over— not having baseball around on a daily basis isn’t as much fun as having it. I’m glad that this version of the team will never exist again (please, Lord?) but I’m sad that we never got the kind of season we all wanted, one with Buster and Freddy and an offense that wasn’t ridiculously horrible
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I got some pills that’ll help with that
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
We're in this thing!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Looking forward to seeing Pill play tonight
Glad to see him get a start! Should be exciting….
Whoa, high-roller.
Save that for the post-season!
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
This is sad
I watched game 162 on Demand last night and will probably watch one of the world series games tonight. Eventually I’ll have to move on.
Wasn't that the UN?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I could have sworn it was ECOSOC.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Clearly thought up by individuals who have no idea how people on the internet will behave.
The first six innings are overrated.
“All the kids are doing the Twitter, right?”
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been in meetings with almost every major client we have
where they say, “Hey we need to ad more users/customers, we need to get younger, can you help us?”
And they always think the answer is twitter or facebook.
Well, it’s true that users of those platforms on average are younger than viewers of TV, readers of print, and listeners of radio, but your just talking about the medium. What’s far more important is how a brand is perceived. For a brand like Head and shoulders it’s pretty difficult to change that kind of perception. Some brands have succesfully pulled it off, Old Spice for example appeals to a much younger audience than it did when it was primarily a cologne you could by in the grocery store like Stetson and the men featured in it’s ads were grey haired and often pictured on a yacht. But it’s hard to move the needle downward when you’ve been doing what you do for a while.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
by Cody_ransom on Sep 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It really comes down to knowing how to use a given medium. Having a Twitter account is useless if you’re just going to use it as a glorified RSS generator.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Chasm?
Interacting with other humans?
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
wth would I want to do that for?
people are idiots, as soon as I can figure out how to do my job from a cave…. I’m sooooooo out of here!!!
…says the active participant on the biggest message board in the SBNation network.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been in too many of those meetings and if all those “Social Media” experts are honest with you in meetings, they’ll tell you it’s pretty much worthless from a marketing stadpoint
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Direct response, yes.
But you can augment brand building efforts using Social Media, just don’t expect a lot of directly measurable results. Likes mean nothing when they become pseudo currency
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
But Twitter is super easy to use, and Twitter users are more likely to add a new Twitter account than, say, signing up for an e-mail newsletter.
Twitter is be very, very, very useful, and can lead directly to more money; and I have the receipts to prove it.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
It was more Facebook than twitter but there was some twitter discussed in there. Some companies are natural fits for social media (the Giants), some aren’t (Head and Shoulders)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, companies might or might not be “natural” fits, but a company could simply be good at it. someone mentioned Old Spice, a company that no one feels any particular way about, and they used Twitter & Youtube very wisely and made a (new) name for themselves. There’s nothing stopping anyone else from doing the same, really.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
This:
CLIENT: “We want a viral.”
ME: “No, you want to produce something that will go viral.”
CLIENT: “We like the part where we give you little-to-no-money and you give us 600,000 views.”
ME: “OK, but you gotta get kinda crazy.”
CLIENT: “We’re global leaders, leading globally! That’s crazy, right?”
ME: /rowandface.
…aaaaand scene.
11/1/2010
by HughG16 on Sep 6, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, there’s a lot of that. But simply Twittering what’s going on with your business & answering customers’ questions can go a long way.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Stress Relief
I’m getting married on the 25th and it’s kind nice not only to not have the added stress of a close division race but also worrying that I’d miss the first round while I’m on my honeymoon with no internet or coverage.
This glass is half full.
Dave Fleming here to talk to you about the Slingbox...
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I was on my honeymoon in early October 2002…. it was pre-smartphones and I had no easy access to the internet. I followed the first round by watching scores tick across the bottom of the SkySports channel. I was in Paris for Games 1-2 of the NLCS and watched them at 3am on ESPN. You are right. It was a huge distraction.
Woot!
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still not entirely sure I have a good grasp on how good Nate is. That’s disappointing to me, for the fourth straight season (well, 3 out of 4, since TGWTWS).
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
I hear you. I really think Nate fixed that low inside hole in his swing (thanks, BamBam?), and was on track for a really good post ASB stint. It’s a real shame the foot fracture derailed his season.
At this point, we just have to wait until next Spring to find out.
I really think Nate fixed that low inside hole in his swing
Don’t let anyone around here hear you say that.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
What Nate looks like . . .
. . . so far as I can see it is better than many thought, not as good as some hoped; kind of a nearly Cody Ross player.
Looks like maybe useful as a 4th of, very certainly a fine 5th of, not a starting corner guy.
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Pretty much this.
Although you left out the part about his killer abs. Yum.
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We sort of got the worst of both worlds
I was saying back in May that repeating shouldn’t be the Giants priority because a) it’s so damn hard to do statistically and b) there were big holes in the lineup that were better addressed for a ‘12 or ’13 run . That said, it’s still nice to be competitive.
And that’s what we got – except that the Cabrera/Beltran trades were insane from a long term planning perspective. There was no need for desperation moves in ‘11 but McGowan got a starry "we’re the west coast Boston" look in his eyes and the rest is history.
MAGOWAN!
And he hasn’t had anything to do with player transactions for a couple of years now.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT’S WHY WE ARE BLAMING MCGOWAN!
Adopted Giant - Carlos Willoughby, 2011 Sally League All Star
by j14 on Sep 6, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
MAGOWAN!!
DAMMIT PETER STOP MAKING ROSTER DECISIONS
that’s why we took away all your power in 2009
I rhyme with freak.
He’s like some kind of freaking cave-wizard.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
So,
that’s what we’re calling Huff, Torres, Burrell, Keppinger, Cabrera… Safeway Selects?
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
The homegrown players are store brand;
Those other guys are the dented cans and oxidized meat that you get on the cheap.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I think the high quality homegrown players are now being branded Open Nature. The processed ones are Safeway Select.
Huff is reduced price bulk bone-in loin.
Torres is tilapia, previously frozen.
Burrell is yesterday’s baguette.
Keppinger is Dinty Moore Beef Stew.
Cabrera is Oaty O’s with Marshmallows. (Compare to Brandon Crawford!)
I rhyme with freak.
But why not go for it? You’ll only have this pitching staff together for so many years and beign cautious when you’re good enough to win is the smart call. If you keep on aiming for the future, you’ll be he A’s. As for the whole “Red Sox of the West Coast,” it’s all pretty smart marketing and a good way of flowing more money into the owner’s coffers and more money means spending like the Red Sox
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it too early to look forward to a less injury riddled season than this one?
"If you wanna rock 'n' roll, I got the guitar."
Is it possible to have more injured players than this year?
What is the record for the most people on the DL in a season?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Remember, the Giants have a relatively healthy pitching staff, so they probably won’t sniff the top.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
The A's decimated pitching staff might be up there
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
LoL
I kept the SI baseball preview issue from this spring….
Yeah…. They had the Reds and A’s both picked to win their divisions, and [iirc] the dude had the D-bags finishing LAST in the NLWest… 20 games back. So much for that.
Romo, Casilla, Mota, Wilson, Sanchez, Zito…
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Paper > Rock is the most bull shitiest bullshit to have ever been shat by a bull.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Dammit SL; sorry
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rock_Paper_Scissors_Lizard_Spock_en.svg
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Paper beats rock and everyone thinks rock beats everything so, in essence, paper does. Or at least that’s how I win at it a lot
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
What if someone filed a lawsuit against the rock?
Paper. They’d have to use paper. Makes perfect sense.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 6, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
In a 1000 years that rock will still be chillin' while the lawsuit papers will have been long gone.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
When I was a young, foolish man, scissors, paper, rock meant we were rolling a coke-o-puff.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we should go back to communicating by carving things on stone
People would only say what was most important to them.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Justin Christian oh the time has come
And you know that you’re the only one to say… ok.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Woah
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Christian, Pill both starting tonight.
35 seconds ago
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
Playin da older kids!
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
yeah, right. Somebody locked Bochy in the closet or something? I’m going to need at least 3 different sources before I believe that!
maybe we get both brandon's too
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
mix in a Hector Sanchez?
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Does this mean, though, that the quota of young players has been filled so no Belt or Crawford?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLINEUP
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Christian CF, Keppinger 2B, Beltran RF, Ross LF, DeRosa 3B, Pill 1B, Cabrera SS, Stewart C, Surkamp P. Assuming Pablo still can’t swing RH.
40 seconds ago
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
This makes perfect sense
Pill and Christian are gritty vets. Even though theyve been in the minors
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
LOL
no Crawford/Fontenot, Hector Sanchez, or Belt? Sheesh.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Why on Earth would you want Hector Sanchez to start?
Check out Catch-28.com, a blog about Buster Posey and the San Francisco Giants.
young, needs ABs and I kind of “nothing” Stewart and Whiteside.
I'm a failure. I can't even fake the death of a stripper.
-GOB Bluth
He needs ABs in the minors.
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Maybe because the alternatives are Chris Stewart and Eli Whiteside?
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Does player development mean nothing to you? Why don’t we start Joe Panik tomorrow… he’s about as ready as Sanchez.
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Have you seen Chris Stewart
with a bat in his hand? Can Sanchez be worse?
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Platoon
It is an all right handed hitting lineup.
The problem with starting Sanchez is that the Pads run a lot. Stewart is the best option to slow that down. That will help Surkamp. so I have no problem with Stewart starting.
DeRosa – I’ve said for a long time he had no busines being on the roster. But the guy has performed really well in spot duty. He’s suffered through 2 years of injuries. At this poin, I’m ok with giving him a little reward for his rehab work.
Cabrera. There is never a reason to play him. He should be rotting in the corner of the dugout. But they traded for him. So he’s going to play some. Unfortunately.
It doesn’t matter if the Giants win or lose this game at this point.
Sanchez has a plus arm, according to reports. He deserves the chance to show it in garbage time, since Stewart is just bad at everything except throwing. Sanchez has also caught Surkamp before, so, if anything, that’ll help Eric more.
DeRosa isn’t a real problem, because Sandoval is injured and no one except Fontenot can play third.
Cabrera sucks.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
I think I’m in the minority here, but I’d take Posey/Stewart over Posey/Whiteside next year because of defense alone.
you are not in the minority. I agree with you. But i would prefer they find a bit of an upgrade at the backup C position because of questions about Buster’s durability.
I SAID THIS IN NOVEMBER.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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I actually agree.
Stewart’s defense is far better than Whiteside’s and the difference in their offense is really a non factor
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
rather see
Posey/Hernandez
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
his stash
is trash
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
His pot is shot
His coke is a joke.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
His angel dust has started to rust.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard he spit on someone
a few years ago
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
That was Roger McDowell
There was no way spit could move like that.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I vote neither. Posey/Sanchez, Posey/Hernandez, Posey/Hanigan (pie in the sky), or Sandoval/Sanchez with Posey elsewhere on the IF (even higher pie).
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Pablo is never going to catch.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m have to apologize. For some reason calls for Pablo to be catcher make me irrationally frustrated. Give up the dream, people! ;-)
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I have no idea what “I’m have to apologize” means.
EDIT FUNCTION NAO PLZ
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It means you’re changing your handle from kdl.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
havetoapologize would be a funny handle.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably sounded OK in your head.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I started by saying “I’m sorry” and then I wanted to change it to “I have to apologize.” It didn’t work very well.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Have some consideration for Pablo, fer chrissakes. You’re asking a guy to who just learned a new position, which he has done very well and at the major league level, to just drop that and pick up the position he hasn’t played in two years. Is he expected to maintain excellence at both now?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I also get the impression that he doesn’t want to go back to catching.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s too unrealistic to ask him to catch maybe one game a week.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Yeah, because who needs to practice?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the team’s been pretty clear on this.
But, whatever. The Pablo Needs to Catch thing is never going away. I need to just accept it.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo at C, Nate at 3B, Buster at SS, Pill 2B, Fielder 1B (traded for Cain)
2012 World Series Champions. Book it.
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by j14 on Sep 6, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this after the Giants trade Lincecum to the Boston Bruins?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Don Cherry replaces Amy G?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Not sure
how Paul Gutierrez would handle that.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Hey! New cherry
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Do we get Chara or Thomas in return?
Timmy can back up Tukka Rask in the “kinda looks like a girl” category.

by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps I've spoken too soon:
Pablo Sandoval really does it all. One day after talking to his bat and hitting two homers, he’s out there throwing BP. LEFT-HANDED BP.
(via Baggs twitter)
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
At least Pill and Surkamp makes it interesting enough to watch.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL I totally missed Christian. Hes starting already? Weird.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
WAIT WHAT?!
DeRosa over Pablo?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I don’t really have an issue with that, if Pablo is hurt he should sit…. but Cabrera over Crawford??? NO. Also, Brandon Belt should be starting every game.
DFA CABRERA
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 6, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Why do I get the feeling that Bochy tries as hard as he can to get as many of his veterans in the lineup as possible without pissing off the fans to point of them going berserk? It seems like he’ll make a token gesture of putting a prospect in the lineup to pacify the fan base just enough.
Now that they are all but eliminated, he needs to put in more than just one prospect.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Or really just a player under 30 for that matter.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Carbrera needs to play so he’ll get hot enough to get some clutch hits down the stretch
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL You think this is a joke but to Bochy its not……..seriously.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
here is the thing
Cabrera was traded for. He’s not going to be either released or reduced to being the last pinch hitter on the bench. He should be – but that ignores the reality of the situation.
If Pablo is still hurting there is no reason now to have him trying to hit right handed. The last thing they need is for him to get some kind of serious injury.
I’d rather see Belt. But for who? You can’t sit Ross now, he’s finally hitting. Christian is getting a look in center. Pill at first. Beltran is going to be in the lineup every day. He damn well should be. Bench him and forget having any chance (no matter how small) of signing hiim.
sit pill
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
Pill is nothing but roster filler
Belt has a chance to be an actual everyday player. Belt should be starting over Pill.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Bochy is an idiot.
Sadly, I think I am back in this camp too after spending a year on the outside looking in.
But we're running out of seating space.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
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"What. Is. Bochy. Thinking?"
Oh, what a straight line.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
How much more Orlando Cabrera must we endure?
Couldn’t someone ask him to go find Rowand and Tejada? Or just forget to tell him when the team plane leaves?
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Miguel's awesome
Who wouldn’t like him?
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
I still remember the moment of blissful ignorance when I read the headline
“Giants Trade for Cleveland SS Cabrera”
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
you could almost make a reasonable arguement for the trade too back then
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I said almost. There were a few people who talked themselves into a “meh” or a “maybe” or even a “this better work out.”
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Garbanzo is right
There was never a reasonable argument for the Cabrera trade. Beltran absolutely. But not Cabrera.
Yep
The fact that the Indians wanted to unload Cabrera in the middle of a pennant race should have told the Giants enough.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
The Tribe were about to release Cabrera and the Giants swooped in.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It was worth it for the possibility of an administrative error leading to them getting Asdrubal.
I’m convinced this is the only logical reason for the trade.
The first six innings are overrated.
Even if the Giants had given up Alex Hinshaw for Cabrera, it would have been too much.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
They will never give up Alex Hinshaw.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Grant did write it was “better than first feared” or something, as I recall.
I was just fixated on the whole, Cabrera = Tejada thing.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If only we could have fused Miguel Tejada and Orlando Cabrera together.
And Miguel Cabrera magically popped out.
More likely, they would form a player named Orlando Tejada that would suck beyond all comprehension.
by busterbarelyevenknowher on Sep 6, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It would have no range which would be fine because it couldn’t catch either.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Is he a good cook or something?
Because you certainly can’t like Orlando Cabrera the baseball player
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
DING DING DING!
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
"I am [ ] an idiot"
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That's like "showcasing" Rowand
The more you see, the worse the deal looks.
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by schmohog on Sep 6, 2011 3:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Good thing Surkamp's a fly ball pitcher
or else he’d be screwed by this infield
Only rookies over 27 can play
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
actually giants say that crawford is at short
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Amy G reporting Crawford at short
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Chris Haft just said he wrongly had Crawford at SS, and confirmed Cabrera. Wonder if Amy copied from him?
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
sigh
:(
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And also, not young guyS. Only one young-ish guy. And only barely. Mostly old guys.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Belt should be playing everyday
But Cabrera over Crawford is the worst offense. I hope this lineup is fact.
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by Badly Browned on Sep 6, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT is the crap about DeRosa?
His career OPS is .757. Since his latest return from the DL, he’s been an .899. Sure, sure, SSS: but the point was never his ability, it was whether he could be healthy enough again to manifest that ability. It seems he can be, and is doing so. Right now, I’d rather have him starting at 2b than Keppinger, and starting him at 3b when Panda is hurting is fine by me. If his wrist explodes again, well, it does; but till then, use what you’ve got.
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He doesn’t really seem to be healthy though – he has yet to strike the ball with authority.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, sure, SSS, but SSS
I’m pretty sure DeRosa said he can only hit singles. And then he has backed that up with his bat. The .899 OPS you mention is over 18 or 19 ABs in which he has 1 double; I think it might have been a ground ball down the line.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not even an age thing. His wrist is toast. How many times have you heard batters talk about how important the wrist is in a swing because without it you’re swinging a wet noodle. DeRosa is swinging a wet noodle. I don’t care if he’s 26; if you chop off his hands, I don’t want him playing.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
So let me see . . .
. . . we’ve got this OPS thingy, but it isn’t really a good measure, we need to throw out good values when they don’t have that yummy-licious RBI Power! Is that it, then? Some OPS’s are better than other OPS’s? We are back to BA and ribbies and dingers?
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More like “What’s to be accomplished with this line-up?”
Are the Giants in it? Then put all your best players on the field, there’s only a few more games when it may matter.
Or
Are the Giants out of it? Then start logging playing time for prospects.
DeRosa COULD fit into the first scenario, but then why is Cabrera there at all? If it’s the second scenario, then why not field Belt?
I was not clear. DeRosa doesn’t take time from Belt. If MDR is playing, why is Cabrera anywhere in there. Belt can play 1st since Pill shouldn’t be in that line-up.
Cabrera is there . . .
. . . because they somehow couldn’t re-sign Bengie Molina, who was their preference for SS. (Makes as much sense as anything else, no?)
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Should help Surkamp get some confidence
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“…this lineup sure has an eye toward the future, and not just because Eric Surkamp is starting”
I disagree. Bochy playing Pill and Christian reeks of desperation. This is not a team who is playing actual prospects and working on their development. I like Christian a lot, but this is not about using an out-of-contention season to develop prospects. This is not a change in organizational philosophy.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
this
Playing pill he is hoping that maybe he gets hot and drives in some runs…but no its not toward the future otherwise both crawford and belt would be playing with maybe some playing timefor hector sanchez
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Question for people whining about no Belt: who sits instead? Pill? Christian? Ross and Beltran who have started to kill the ball? C’mon.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 6, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m supposed to balk at the prospect of sitting Pill or Christian?
What kind of…
Um.
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yeah if it is between pill and belt starting sorry pill
pill is not a Prospect anymore while belt will be a part of the giants near future I don’t see pill making that big of an impact for the giants for the foreseeable future
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This is what I’m saying. Pill was supposed to be a bench guy. Why are they acting like he’s going to be some sort of savior. Poor guy.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT HIS FRESNO RIB EYES!!!!!!
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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I actually really like Christian. I hope he does well. But, Pill is basically being set up to fail. I’m rooting for him, don’t get me wrong, but geez.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
It’s pretty depressing. Nothing against Pill, but he probably should not be here.
Of course I would love to be wrong.
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I think Pill earned a September call-up to hang out on the bench and maybe get some ABs when they don’t count. He had a great minor league year, and I have no problem giving guys like that a little reward.
But he’s not a starter.
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especially at the expense of belt
This whole month should be belt playing everyday at first so that he can have some consistency going into the off-season and into spring training, but yet again that makes too much fucking sense to Bork and Sabez
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Basically, this.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
OH. EM. GEE.
My twitters are full of that crap.
And I’m also tired of every late-20s minor league player who has a good year being touted as the next Andres Torres. Because really, Andres Torres isn’t even really the next Andres Torres anymore.
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I like how Schulman is all up in arms. “Who are you going to sit for Belt? NOT PILL!” WTF?
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m getting really tired of Hank. Unlike Baggs, the more I get to see the inner-workings of his brain with his blog and tweets, the more I think he is a hack.
by capn on Sep 6, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not sure why he gets so frustrated at Giants fans, especially those on Twitter. Why does he care if people think Belt should start over Pill or Christian? He was bitching about his Twitter followers on KNBR the other day, and I’m just like, “OMG, then stop using Twitter if they’re all such idiots.” Geez.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard that. I am tempted to just start harassing him because of it. Hank should probably just stop talking, stop tweeting, stop blogging and just write his stupid daily story. He is a bad reporter which is probably why he is still a reporter. Hell, even the bad beat writers like Buster Olney, Stark, Rosenthal, and others have gone on to get TV gigs.
This
I have been tweeting to him all day. started when he said who do you not start to play belt, and I let it take off from there he hasn’t tweeted anything pertaining to my tweets but who cares he is an idiot
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He’s a nice person, but he gets defensive to the point that he’s unprofessional.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He is I've never met Him but I assume you are right
he just makes comments on twitter and then if someone disagrees with him then he gets way too defensive
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I’ve met him a couple of times, and he’s a good guy.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell him to stop making stupid comments if he doesn’t want people disagreeing with him.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 6, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Good luck batting in runs with no baserunners, new guy.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Pill should have started over Huff yesterday.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
F U Hank
Why play Belt at all when we have spring training to look forward to? There is a good chance that none of the other four players will even be signed and invited to ST. Who cares about the future? Just fucking genius!
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If serious
Fuck you, Schulman
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Not a young lineup, by any stretch. Pill is the youngest position player at almost 27:
Justin Christian – 31
Jeff Keppinger – 31
Carlos Beltran – 34
Mark DeRosa – 36
Cody Ross – 30
Brett Pill – 26 (almost 27)
Orlando Cabrera – 36
Chris Stewart – 29
Eric Surkamp – 24
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Right. Just because they don’t have many (or any) major league innings under their belts doesn’t make them serious prospects. The only real prospect in there is Surkamp.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed. Maybe playing both Christian and Pill is Bochy’s big “fuck you” to everybody.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly!
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DeRosa’s 36? Somehow it feels like he’s much older.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
So this lineup is warm-up for next season?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
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Conclusion is correct
really, how hard could it be to go out and get the greatest hitter in the history of the game playing during his peak years, along with one of the best offensive 2B ever?
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The first six innings are overrated.
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by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the greatest thing to come out of the thread for me today.
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This is far more interesting than Brett Pill starting over Belt.
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Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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@SFGiants: #SFGiants Christian CF, Keppinger 2B, Beltran RF, Ross LF, DeRosa 3B, Pill 1B, Cabrera SS, Stewart C, Surkamp P
Well, that clears up any confusion at SS.
And then fixed it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL It was so strange that on the same day she misspelled Sabean’s name as “Sabian” on Twitter, Krukow essentially implied that she wasn’t smart enough to pick a fantasy football team in the broadcast. He later tried to back track by complementing her on her intelligence.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
'essentially implied'
Does this translate into ’didn’t actually say’?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, he rebuffed her in the broadcast and then said he’d consult someone who “is smart” about picking a team. Obviously, he knew it could hurt her feelings because he blantantly started to make up for it by calling her smart in different ways several times.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, they like to give Flem shit about being an egghead because of his classics degree from Stanford. He did not mean to call Amy stupid, which is why he was backtracking..
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
No, of course not. But it totally seemed that way. Of course Kruk would never call Amy stupid……..at least not on tv.
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Now . . .
. . . who do you all suppose really has the higher IQ: Kruk or AmyG? I know how I’d bet.
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Either he still thinks we’re in the race, or he does not know how to manage a non-contending team in September. We’re screwed either way.
Maybe we are trying for a higher draft pick
Since we can’t get to the playoffs anymore
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
WE'RE IN THIS THING

The first six innings are overrated.
An interesting question has always been what was the worst lineup Bochy put out there. All things considering, this could very well be the worst
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The best part is that its the least productive white flag line up possible (in terms of experience for future players)
The first six innings are overrated.
It's funny in a sad and depressing way because people say that playing crawford and belt is waiving the white flag
because the lineup with Huff whiteside and cabrera is more of a white flag.
/sigh
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mostly uneducated fans most likely bandwagoners
people I’ve had conversations with
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Meaning I can’t recall anyone equating Belt with “white flag”. There are Crawford detractors, but even they seem mostly in the “we have better options (Fontenot)” camp.
It was poor wording on my part
I wasn’t trying to make belt the whole point more like when they play belt and crawford the youngin’s some people I talk too act like we are waiving a white flag
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Whatever…
Season over…
And you know if we hate it, the lineup in question will score 109-scquintillion runs and will be the lineup for days to come.
We're still in this!!!!
Ugh
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by Badly Browned on Sep 6, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
WE'RE STILL IN THIS THING!!!
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
WE WANT TO GET OUT BUT WE'RE STUCK
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The first six innings are overrated.
I LOL'd
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It looks like Wayne's basement
Only that’s not Wayne’s basement
Isn’t that weird?

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by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey. This could be the year
::has been saying this for 5 years::
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
This year we actually have a solid blue line though – something we’ve been missing for a while. I think we’ve got a good shot
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It’s why the Stanley Cup playoffs are, IMO, the best playoffs in sports. Tons of upsets, rarely do things ever go the way people think they will, goaltending at it’s finest, and an attitude where playing through a separated shoulder is expected.
I mean, outside of playoffs where TGWTWS, of course.
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What the fuck is this lineup?
Justin Christian? Why in the hell is Cabrera still playing?
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DeRosa batting cleanup?
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WHY IS CABRERA
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To be honest
It’s Cabrera being in the lineup that pisses me off the most. The rest are pretty much “meh”.
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I look at it the other way around. The only thing I am happy about in the lineup is the presence of Beltran. I understand the necessity of Keppiger and Stew, and I can tolerate Ross. The rest is pure dreck.
lightning in a bottle
i’m actually okay with giving Christian some reps; they need a 5th OF for next year. It shouldn’t be at Belt’s expense, though.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 6, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Torres needs regular PT.
Torres needs regular PT.
Torres needs regular PT.
Torres needs regular PT.
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I'm honestly unsure
He seems to have such a host of mental/emotional issues going on this year that whenever they give him a rest day I can’t tell if it’s Bochy lineup stupidity or Andres getting weirded out.
I absolutely think he should have regular PT next year and be our starting CF, but he doesn’t need ML reps to learn to hit the way Belt or Crawford do.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 6, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You can say that again.
And again. And yet again.
But Bruce has his fingers in his ears and is chanting “I caaaann’t heeeaaaaarr you!”
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Why? Does he not want the best chance at winning? How can he possibly justify playing Pill over Belt? It is Sept 6th. When Posey was called up in 2009, he did not even get into a game until sept 11 and did not start until sept 25th.
Pill shouldn’t be starting. If I were manager, I wouldn’t start him. However, Bochy promised him the start, so he’s starting, and his spot today is set in stone. Thus it came down to Ross vs. Belt, and Bochy went with the platoon splits.
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I understand that a normal manager would want to make sure he’s not jerking his rookies back and forth. Bochy, however, has set the precedent of doing just that, so this is remarkably inconsistent.
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This
You can’t play belt everyday but Christian asks and starts the next day…probably because he is 31
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That’s just it. Don’t you think they would be more concerned with Belt’s psyche/feelings than some org filler dude or do they think that Pill is an actual prospect?
They think Pill is now a legitimate prospect because RBI!
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Sadly, I could see this actually being true.
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Murray. Are you the Murry, Present on the AV Club?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, you found me. Yes, I am.
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Thought so. I’m on there but with a different, handle. Tecumseh.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember seeing you or someone else from here give someone shit there after they either insulted the Giants or Brian Wilson. It brought a smile to my face to see McCoven being belligerent outside of SBN.
The first six innings are overrated.
There's someone called Cap'n Sandwich who seems like one of us
He posted a lot on The Franchise recaps.
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, not his sandwich.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t do the Franchise as I don’t have Showtime (I’ve seen Murray in there) but I usually hop in the ESPN discussions just to vent about East Coast bias and lack of respect shown the Giants. There’s a bunch of Giants fans on there
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I am but almost never post and barely read the comments sections anymore. By the time I get around to watching most shows everyone has moved on from discussing it, and i find the structure of their comments section to be quite shitty.
The first six innings are overrated.
It does kind of suck that if you don’t watch the show, you can’t really join in (unless it’s an older show). I actually stayed up til 1 watching Dr. Who one night just so I could post and hop on the moment 30 Rock ends just so I can say something about the NBC shows.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
So stupid.
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Christian has not heard if he’s a descendant of the Bounty Christians.
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Schulman’s hard at work.
Dont bother asking Bochy why he seems to be madly in love with Cabrera.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 6, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
One might guess . . .
. . . he’s taking revenge for having had his other two noisy broken toys taken away from him. Sort of the equivalent of throwing a tantrum.
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He is an idiot
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't mean to be a dick
but out of the starting lineup tonight, the only guy I would bet being on the Giants opening day roster in 2012 is Kepp. So why are we just fucking around and pissing away important playing time for the NEXT TIME TGWTWS??? Fuck you Bruce and Brian!!! Just a perfect ending to a truly fucked up season.
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by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 4:39 PM PDT reply actions
I absolutely mean to be a dick
It is a terrible lineup and Bochy should feel terrible for having fielded it.
The first six innings are overrated.
by apistat on Sep 6, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I might be drunk already, but I’m hoping Sabean will come to the realization that he has to severely limit the # of gritty veteran gamers available to Bochy if he ever wants to see player development at the MLB level.
I think the idea is since they’re not “mathematically” eliminated, they’re still going to go for it, or, at least, not leave Cabrera in an airport and not tell him what hotel they’re staying at.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants will be mathematically eliminated and Bochy will still play Cabrera. He won’t even take out Cabrera for a defensive replacement but use Cabrera for one.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
then is it wrong to sort of hope he loses another game for them by dropping a fly ball with bases loaded in the ninth inning, something so obvious a screwup that even Bochy would realize the idiocy of it
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 6, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
He pulled Crawford to have Derosa PH for him yesterday when they were up 6-1 and Crawford had already driven in a run and made a couple great defensive plays.
The first six innings are overrated.
I didn’t mid leaving MadBum in at the time. He was only at 108 PC starting the 9th and looked like he was cruising. It took him a ton of pitches to get his 13th k and then threw a lot of pitches giving up a HR, so it looked bad in retrospect.
But pulling Crawford for DeRosa was crazy
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
MadBum’s long term health is more important than letting him finish the game with a 6 run lead.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
This. What’s the point of letting young elite pitcher pick up a meaningless CG stat late in the season. Save his arm, he’ll get one soon enough in his career.
It’s a reward to the pitcher.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Pitchers want to pitch.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
How long has Washington been starting Werth in CF?
Because if that’s a regular thing it would make his contract a lot more palatable.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
First time I’ve seen him in CF, and for some reason I’ve caught a few Nats games this year.
Strasburg is lookin’ good. Hasn’t hit 100 yet, but 99, with a 90mph changeup.
Leiter and Williams are convinced it is just a matter of time before Strasburg blows the arm again
I hope they are wrong
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by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if the injury was a result of some wonky mechanics, that apparently haven’t been changed, I think it’s a reasonable prediction.
I don’t want to see it happen because he’s so fun to watch.
throwing 97-99 with substandard mechancis is a recipe for a short career
I would have liked to have seen the Nats shut him down and worked with him in the off season at this point.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I didn’t really understand the point of rushing him to start this year. It’s not like they’re going anywhere.
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
As in
“holy fuck! we are out of bobblehead nights so let’s display our $8 million pitcher of the future throw his arm into the backstop”. Yes, along with Kurkjian working the jimmy, that certainly would draw a crowd.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
There is nothing that can make THAT contract a lot more palatable
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
A center fielder with average defense and Werth’s bat is very rare indeed.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Which Werth bat are you referencing?
if “do overs” could be done, I’m guessing the Nats would like to exercise their right.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I think someone usually starts a HandEgg pokemon league
I never join those because I only watch HendEgg to LOL at Alex Smith.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know about HandEgg. But if I put up a league before Thurs first game would enough McC be interested? If so I can post over on the FanPost area….
Oh wait am I setting it up?
My adopted son, Brandon Crawford. Dude hits grand slams and plays defense.
Oh, I thought you meant you set it up. Nevermind. I set one up and post it tonight for a live draft tomorrow night.
Ok thanks...I meant that I would play
My adopted son, Brandon Crawford. Dude hits grand slams and plays defense.
I have a draft today and haven’t read a damn thing about football since the end of last season. This is going to be a waste of $50. I think I’m just going to draft some Cal players.
The first six innings are overrated.
Aaron Rodgers, DeSean Jackson, Nnamdi Asomugha…. A good start..
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I would do Best and Lynch too for old times sake
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Kyle Boller! LULZ
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
This Just In:
Jim Kosimor is a douche.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Who will be gone next year?
Joaquin
Lincecum
Ryan Vogelsong
# Catchers
Hector Sanchez
Stewart
Whiteside
# Infielders
Brandon Belt
Emmanuel Burriss
Cabrera
Conor Gillaspie
# Outfielders
Beltran
Ford
Ross
Torres
Why would Lincecum be gone?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just gonna ask this
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
you talking
this should stop.
The first six innings are overrated.
Wut?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT?!?!
So you’re saying a team with absolutely no offense doesn’t need their best pitcher. Yeah that makes sense
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
No.
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
We think we know what we’re doin’
That don’t mean a thing
It’s all in the past now
Money changes everything
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL JAMESON
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He just saw today's LOLineup...
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Any one who thinks the Giants don't want to trade timmy is fooisH. Lincecum is NOT getting any younger
We need a bat and already have good pitching. timmy goes and a bat (and not pat the bat) come in.
World Series in 2012!
fooisH
Is that Klingon?
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
No.
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
/slow clap
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Hahahaha
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
FOOISH!!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, stop
You’re making me laugh and I’m in a lecture right now so it’s a little awkward.
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Science!
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by j14 on Sep 6, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The Curious Case of Tim Lincecum....
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
sir I will give you some advice
throw the shovel out now the hole is getting too deep as it is
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hahahahaha
thanks dude seriously this has been a terrible work day and i am laughing so much right now
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 6, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Umm...
…we have good pitching in large part because we have Lincecum.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Joaquin is probably gone. Whiteside might get cut if the Giants believe in Sanchez or get another catcher (or if they just don’t like him). Orlando Cabrera is gone, and probably Ross and Beltran, too.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
And Lincecum stays
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LOL THIS GUY
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BOCHY TROLLIN' HE HATIN'
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Are you all finished laughing at me (and yes I know you are NOT laughing with me). that traded Kareem Abdul Jabbar-
anyone CAN be traded. Including Lincecum
You’re going to make us all laugh at you again.
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LINCECUM TRADED TO THE WARRIORS!
HE WILL PLAY CENTER!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
why not add one more guy
that can’t rebound
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
LINCECUM TRADED FROM WARRIORS TO RAIDERS
WILL PLAY QUARTERBACK
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LINCECUM TRADED FROM RAIDERS TO 49ERS
WILL BACK UP ALEX SMITH
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Tim will LOL Alex Smith during his welcome press conference.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
AFTER TRADING LINCECUM GIANTS SIGN BRETT FAVRE
BOCHY BATS HIM CLEANUP LOVES HIS VETERAN GRIT
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I am not laughing at you. I am having a hard time understanding why you like to be electronically abused. I think it is apparent that nobody here agrees with you. You might just drop it and move on.
and since the Bucks traded Kareem they haven’t even made it back to the finals let alone won a title. Meanwhile, the team they traded him to has won 10 titles including 5 with Kareem.
WWRWD?
BUT WE NEED BATZ AND RIB-EYEZ
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I could use a steak right now.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I OD’ed on steak this weekend. Ate my quota for the year, I think.
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Are you an MLB.com commentor
that’s gone astray? We need to get you home, buddy.
Easier to ask "who of the list will be on the opening day roster?"
Lincecum, Vogelsong, Belt, Torres.
Most of the list is shit. Hector Sanchez, Burriss, Gillaspie and Ford, if they are still with the org, they will be in Fresno as insurance. Catching wise, I don’t see the Giants making the same mistake twice. We will have a seasoned veteran on his last legs who can catch as our backup. Ross, Beltran, O-cab, we won’t re-sign. Torres will be offered arb only because we will hope that we get something closer to 2010 out of him and the dude can still be a 5th outfielder and play defense even on his worst day (and won’t break the bank).
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by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Zito threw 50 pitches off mound. Bochy was impressed but no time to build him up to start. Reliever down the stretch if he’s OK. …
And
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
As for longer term with Zito? “Great question,” Bochy said. “I don’t know that we know. We’ll have to sit down and talk about it.”
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
when the season is over
the Zito-talk is the shit I won’t miss. Now that Tejada and Rownads are gone, my anger and disgust has shifted to Larry Zito.
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by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
So, the team is out of contention, and benching Belt.
I honestly see no reason to closely follow this team for the rest of the season. What’s the point in watching Pill and Christian?
/fires up Mad Men DVDs
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
IT CHANGES EVERYTHING!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t really tell whether it’s good writing or bad writing that makes me hate Betty so much.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Are you wrong about everything?
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I just feel like January Jones is a bad actress. At least, that’s my impression after watching the first season.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
She wasn’t too great in that Liam Neason movie that came out this year, either.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
Just hanging there, chillin
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Krukow says the Giants are still in it.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
They all had good BPs.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Krukow
I can’t understand the heat he gets here. The guy is a huge optimist. So what. He is terrific at what he does. If you don’t think so – you can have Ray Fosse.
Oh, I really like K&K, but it’s funny to me when Kruk loses his grip now and then. This is not an extreme case, but his love for Tejada…..
I accidentally listened to 95.7 when I got in the car this afternoon to hear Papa gush over Tejada, saying it was a big mistake (on the level of Zito’s $126 contract) to release him.
Oy vey.
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I must have been aiming for NPR and missed the button.
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But seriously
Listening to Kruk on Murph and Mac this morning, even he doesn’t think the Giants are going to make it this year.
and he wants Belt to play every day.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He seems more straightforward in his morning spots. I think he’s trying to help sell the team during games.
I’m mostly okay with that.
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Tweaking on meth and watching Breaking Bad
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Christian is a fun player to watch.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, he’s fun in a “what the hell” sort of way, but not in a “contending team” sort of way.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I think he has a better chance of making an impact than several of the other guys on the roster. That says more about the roster than Christian, of course.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm kind of excited to watch him play, yeah
He’s a toolsy outfielder with plus speed. He almost certainly won’t be the second coming of Andres Torres (as can of corn said, Andres Torres isn’t even the second coming of Andres Torres), but he’s got an exciting skillset on this plodding team.
Alternately, he might be the second coming of Eugenio Velez, which would be entertaining in a totally different way.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 6, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone knows that Eugenio and I had a special bond, but PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
He took a weird route to get to me.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Never thought I'd post this again

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
This one is almost as good as the one of Runzler and me on Space Ghost’s TV screen.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
September baseball
I can’t get all upset about a couple guys getting the opportunity to make their season (Christian) and Major League (Pill) debuts tonight.
1. Brandon Belt is going to get plenty of ab’s from here on out. If he doesn’t play every single day is not going to make one bit of difference for 2012.
2. Crawford will get his share as well. His real work, however, begins in the Arizona Fall League. If he can improve marginally as a hitter – to the point where he they think he can hit .250 with a little pop – he’s got a chance to start next year. He’s strong defensively and he walks a bit. Plus he’s got some speed.
3. Christian is someone worth watching. Ross is probably gone next year. Beltran too. Torres perhaps as well. So he could be a 5th outfielder candidate.
4. Pill also could be a guy that makes the roster next year. As a right handed first baseman (I’m assuming Belt is a left fielder) who can pinch hit, and in a pinch play second. I’d also have him getting some reps at third. A utility guy taht can hit the ball out of the part once in a while is not a bad thing.
belt is a south paw
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1. Brandon Belt is going to get plenty of ab’s from here on out.
NOT IF BOCHY’S MANAGING, AMIRITE?
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
No you are not right.
He will play be in the lineup (unless he gets hurt) for most of the rest of the season.
Why is he not starting tonight?
Because as much as you insist, Bochy doesn’t know wtf.
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Insist otherwise, that is.
Check out Catch-28.com, a blog about Buster Posey and the San Francisco Giants.
Pill also could be a guy that makes the roster next year.
Really?
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. Really.
Every team needs utility infielders. He plays first and second and I suspect can learn to play some third. keppinger may or may not be back. Cabrera will be gone (thank god0. Who knows if Sanchez will be back. DeRosa will be gone.
He won’t cost much. And he can perhaps be a guy off the bench who can hit it out once in a while. So I’m talking 24th- 25th guy type thing.
Sanchez is under contract. His health is a different story. I imagine that with Fontenot, Keppinger, Sanchez, Crawford, Sandoval, Huff, Belt, and hopefully Bill Hall, it’ll be slim pickings for Mr. Pill.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
God not Bill Hall again!
He will not be on the roster. He is WAY too expensive. Ditto with Fontenot OR Keppinger. One may stay – but I doubt both do. Much will depend on whether they pick up a shortstop.
Sanchez is a huge question mark. Unfortunately.
Slim pickings may be right. But as I said, I don’t want to spend money on the utility guys.
The major league minimum is not expensive. At all. Sanchez is the most expensive of the lot, then Keppinger, then Fontenot, then Bill Hall. Hall is basically the cheapest decent utility player available. Jamey Carroll is another possibility, but he’s old and might cost a bit.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Bill Hall is getting paid a lot of money
The Houston Astros are paying him.
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Once again, you manage to amaze me.
Every time I think “nothing can top that”, out comes another yet bigger one one. Very impressive.
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He plays first and second and I suspect can learn to play some third.
There aren’t a lot of AB’s at 1B on this team. Also, by all accounts, he has no business playing 2B, his height being only one of several concerns. I have no idea how anyone could know what he’d do at 3B.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much.
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by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't we have an everyday third baseman?
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Well, yeah, but he gets injured or needs days off. I mean, you need a backup, but I don’t think Pill is the answer.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is Christian worth watching? Because he had a good AA/AAA season at the age of 31?
NOT EVERY MINOR LEAGUER IN THEIR LATE 20s/EARLY 30s IS THE NEXT ANDRES TORRES.
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Heh. Yes please.
And a Slurpee.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Blue.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Just blue. Blue is awesome.
Or Mountain Dew if they have it.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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Heh...slurpee
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Just, FYI, it’s possible to like Christian for actual reasons. Obviously, he’s 5th OF material, at best (AT BEST!), and should be coming off the bench and not starting. But, I’m kind of interested to see what he does tonight.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt Pill could be much more than a platoon player, with Huff, Belt, and Posey blocking the way at first. Pill’s glove is dubious at best at second, so it’ll probably be more of the same at third.
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He’s way too tall to play 2B. Has he ever played 3B?
I just don’t see him on the roster next year.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
But they are going to need the 23-25th guys on the roster just like every other year. Its not just about who the starters will be. Let’s see if the kid can play a bit. If so, perhaps there is a role for him next year. Beats the hell out of paying some guy 4 mill to be a utility player. They need that money elsewhere.
As long as they don’t play him at the expense of bigger prospects, then it’s fine.
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the bigger prospects aren't up yet.
besides Belt of course. I suspect the biggest are Panik and Brown. Both probably another year away – although college players can get to the bigs quick these days.
“Let’s see if the kid can play a bit.” That’s what the minors are for.
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Pill has had a great year in the minors
he has nothing to prove there. The question is wheterh he’s a AAAA guy. He very well may be. Heck I just like seeing some new guys get a little reward. The year is over from a contending perspective. So its fun to see someone new.
I hope the kid goes 4-4 and hits one out. That won’t mean squat by the way. But it will give him a great memory.
Pill hasn’t had a great year in the minors. He’s had an okay year in the minors. Everyone in the PCL is killing the ball.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
It is the PCL, after all.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Salt Lake City’s been in the PCL for a century. They couldn’t take it out now.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I don’t get why it’s called the Pacific Coast League with teams in Iowa, Nebraska and Tennessee.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
why is University of Utah and Colorado in the PAC 12?
forget about it when the traditional PAC 10 teams have to travel to Lubbock and Stillwater.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The Hawaii Islanders?
that was always a scheduling nightmare.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
On and off.
At times, it wasn’t even AAA.
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Interesting
The Bees only played in the old PCL from 1915 to 1925. I thought it was longer than that.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
and the Las Vegas Stars?
hey, when hookers and blow are involved, we make boundary exceptions.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
...
Why should I take your posts seriously when you can’t even do a little bit of homework? Pill has a 107 wRC+ in the PCL and he plays first base. He is also 27. What about this is promising?
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107 RIB EYES
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, just throw anyone at 2B
Even lefties.
OR POSEY!!
HAFNER FOR SS!!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm talking about 2b once in a while.
Not a big issue. I’d also like to see if he can play third.
i want the Giants spending money on starters – not utility infielders. Thus, lets see if he can fill a role and save them some bucks.
Can you name one other currently actively lefty playing 2B or 3B?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Belt
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Check out item number 4 on his list.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe you misunderstood me (or I misspoke)
i was talking about Pill playing second, not Belt.
Heh…yeah, my mistake. lol
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
No problem
I may be dumb, but not dumb enuf to put a lefty at first or third!
Uh
you want a lefty at 1st better tag on pickoffs
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Christ - I meant SECOND or third
There have been a few decent left handed first baseman. Maybe 1500 or so over the years!
Course given my usual 8 typos
I could see why you were confused.
Oh lol sorry
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"If he can improve marginally as a hitter – to the point where he they think he can hit .250 with a little pop –"
The tears of laughter have now stopped enough for me to type.
BA at AA, .250; BA at AAA, .234; BA in the majors, .192. Improve marginally?
The days of Roger Metzgers are long gone.
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BOCHY'S HEAD ON A STICK!!!!
Wait, this is actually acceptable.
P.Sandoval getting a day vs LHP because Bochy likes the way he’s swinging left-handed and doesn’t want him aggravating shoulder from R side.
via Baggs
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Bochy's head on a telephone pole?
would you rather have a $1 million or Bork’s head full of nickels?
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Same thing....
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 6, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did Kurkjian
remove his hand from his pants yet?
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
When passing him on the street last October, I was shocked at just how diminutive Timmy K. actually is.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it was Krukow who said that some lefties get in a groove pitching to all righties. So it’s good to have 1 or 2 lefties in the lineup. Of course there is Surkamp. Another reason for Belt or Crawford who are not totally lost against LHP
Marvin Barrios, come on I'll show you your bedroom. Don't stay on the phone too long to Panama, please.
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. . . is not a good way to start a convincing sentence.
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Enough of the Snake Watch!!
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its clear that the honey badger didn't give a shit...about the giants it just did what it wanted
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Everything but the AL West seems settled
Who would you most like to see succeed in the playoffs?
When the Phillies were beating the Dodgers, this place became Carlton Chronicles, but I can’t like the Phillies. And I automatically rule out any AL team. So that leaves the Chigloos, in spite of the Bud connection.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions
in this line
Brewers-Rangers WS would be great, now that the Indians are out of the picture. Not sure who I’d root for.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 6, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Rangers
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considering i just moved to milwaukee
im in this line!
I love CJ Wilson.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like the cosmos owes Kinsler a second chance.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Tigers or Brewers
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by j14 on Sep 6, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
In order
NL:
Brewers
Phillies
Braves
Diamondbacks
AL:
Tigers
Rangers
Yankees
Red Sox
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I would flip the Braves and the Phillies, but other than that, I agree with this
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I totally understand why you ranked them like that
But all the recent Phillies love in the media has me really hating them right now
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 6, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
if we're doing rankings
Brewers >>> Phillies >>>>>>>>>>> D-Backs >> Braves
Rangers >>>>> Tigers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those other guys.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 6, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Brew Crew
Braves
D-backs
Phillies
AL:
Rangers
Yankees
Tigers
Red Sox
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by Murray, Present on Sep 6, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
INSIDER!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s pretty bad.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ladies and Gentleman
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The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
LOL
ASSkon
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Even though I don’t doubt his sincerity, nor begrudge him his attempt at the brass ring, ‘middling’ is generous.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that until I saw his new video this year, then I thought he’s just another douche trying to act like a tough guy for the camera.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I did like his dont stop believing cover but they milked it too long
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Maybe the Journey needs an update...
Playoff run
Seems like it’s over now
There might still be a chance…maybe not
Things looked good
Until the August swoon
But the season shouldn’t end in September…
They say that the game’s a business, they’re doing all they can, you see
By playing lineups that don’t make sense to me
And being a Giants fan ain’t always what it’s supposed to be
Oh, guys, you torture me
I’m forever your fan, faithfully
Injuries, not just an excuse
But what’s up with the bats? No offense there!
Our pitching staff watch their best efforts fall
The look in Timmy’s eyes has me cryin’
And being a fan ain’t easy in this year from Hell
But I can’t force myself to cut them loose
If this is Torture 2.0, you’ve broken me
Oh, guys, you’re killin’ me
But I’m forever your fan, faithfully.
NorCal passion trapped in SoCal pain...
I wanna rage.
LOL PABLO
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Pablo Sandoval really does it all. One day after talking to his bat and hitting two homers, he’s out there throwing BP. LEFT-HANDED BP.
1 minute ago
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by Falconer88 on Sep 6, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh man. I love him so much.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Sep 6, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
pablo on beast mode
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Question:
How does Collmenter get hitters out consistently? A fastball that tops out at 89. I have never seen a rookie get the “12-6” curveball that he throws called a strike as frequently as he gets it. Do the umps not realize that this is a rookie on the mound? Compared to how many times Timmeh and Matt have been squeezed this year, this really pisses me off.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 6, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions
Did anyone catch the Freddie Mercury tribute that Google did today?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 6, 2011 6:17 PM PDT reply actions
how hipsterish of you.
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by j14 on Sep 6, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh god. People read my tweets?
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OK, I get playing Pill
even giving De Rosa a pity start, but wtf, Cabrera? Seems unnecessary.
Get well soon, most of the Giants roster!
Chopped, don’t be.
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I do?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 6, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions

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