OT: In Honor of Banned Books Week
Sept 24 - Oct 1 is Banned Books Week
Some lists of books are here
and here
I'm surprised to see "And Tango Makes Three" on the list. The book is based upon the real story of Roy and Silo, two male penguins who took care of a fertilized egg and raised themselves a baby penguin. The horrors!!!
What banned books have you read? What's your favorite? And what books should be banned?
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Books that should be banned:
The Bruce Bochy Guide to Player Development: 5 Years on the Pine
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I'm still shocked that people consider "Catcher in the Rye" subversive.
The ’50’s must have been the most boring decade ever.
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Three questions.
1. What banned books have you read?
I don’t know because I pay no attention to such things. Looking over the linked lists, not much: Flowers for Algernon, by Daniel Keyes (what in Heaven could be bannable there?); James and the Giant Peach, by Roald Dahl (same question); Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley; Slaughterhouse-Five, by Kurt Vonnegut; the Mark Twains, but only as a small child; "His Dark Materials: (series), by Philip Pullman; Fahrenheit 451, by Ray Bradbury. As you see, mostly speculative fiction.
2. What’s your favorite>
Most of them were pretty blah. The only one I’d recommend to anyone is Flowers for Algernon, though I suppose Mark Twain is de rigeur.
3. And what books should be banned?
“Banning” here seems to apply only to books for schoolchildren, since nothing else that doesn’t affront the now rather loose definitions of pornography can be “banned” for adult readers. I suppose that there are levels of evolving maturity in which certain books might be inappropriate as containing material that a child of that age could not properly interpret intellectually or emotionally, but I don’t think one can lay down general strictures: cases need to be judged individually.
I further suppose that in essence one doesn’t want to frighten children with unreal things that they might mistake for a depiction of reality, nor want to present them with highly biased viewpoints before they are likely to have the discernment to recognize the biases as what they are, nor present them with painful emotional entanglements beyond their experience or capability to comprehend.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
blah?
Oh man, I couldn’t disagree more! Brave New World and Fahrenheit 451 are two of my favorite books of all time. Fahrenheit has one of the all time best opening lines ever: “It was a pleasure to burn.” AMAZING! and the part (and I’m going to butcher it) where Bradbury writes something like: Never put all your faith in a single book, or person, or thing. Do your own bit of saving, and if you’re going to drown, do so knowing you were swimming for shore.
Shit, that book got me through high school.
Anyway, just my opinion, to each there own.
Mr. Flibble is very cross.
A lot of works . . .
. . . that were cutting edge when created don’t hold up well over time. Obviously, opinions vary, and I generally rate Bradbury pretty high as an author, but at times he does rather wield The Great Hammer of Obviousness. He is better, I think, when he resorts to what one might call prose poetry than when he deals in Deep Stuff. (Harsher critics refer to Bradbury’s “teddy-bear world”.)
Brave New World is, I feel, more of a literate polemic than a novel, but, again, tastes vary.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
he does rather wield The Great Hammer of Obviousness
He’s not alone in that. I found both Brave New World and 1984 a bit cringe-inducing for that reason. Sometimes having an Important Point! gets in the way of good writing.
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I would argue that occasionally transparency can be a good thing. Yes, it may preclude it from being a great work from a nuts and bolts writing angle, but sometimes the best thing for a strong and important message is to state it bluntly. Don’t risk diluting or muddling the meaning by making the form overly opaque.
Naturally, writing of a dystopic theme is going to lend itself to heavy handedness, but in Huxley, Bradbury, and Orwell’s case I think they pull off the trick. To write within the confines of a difficult theme, and to do it well, speaks to there mastery of writing, not their inability.
I’d also like to say: I love discussing literature with well read, intelligent people, so thank you Bhaakon and owlcroft. You’re arguments are making me think of some of my favorite books from a perspective I hadn’t before.
Mr. Flibble is very cross.
Man, I hated Brave New World when I read it in high school. That means that my current opinion about it could be anything at all.
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by howtheyscored on Oct 2, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Where's Waldo???
Unless there’s an ultra-difficult version where everyone is nude, I can’t imagine why this would be on the list.
Free Brandon Crawford!
The page where you have to find Waldo in the middle of that really famous speech that Hitler gave is a bit tough.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Banned Books ?
How does this list still exist anywhere outside of the Red State quadrant in 2011 ? Oh that’s right, we are currently in a theocratic war within the United States. A war that encourages the spiritually challenged to suppress information and ideas that would encourage intellectual discourse.
I just don’t understand how the belief that restricting access to ideas and thought has ever been a good thing for anyone but ruthless dictators or the plutocratic elite. How about we just provide information from different viewpoints that would encourage the critical thinking that is needed to promote active solutions to the moral and intellectual black hole that public and political discussions have become. I guess I should just watch Dancing with the Stars and shut up.
Did I miss the newsletter that made independent thought subversive ?
/ old man rant off
Apologies, I must have been channeling some jcb9 rage. I know it’s Friday and I should be relaxed and happy, but it’s been a tough week. To the list(s), I have read:
Harry Potter, Of Mice and Men, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,The Color Purple, Go Ask Alice, Catcher in the Rye, To Kill A Mockingbird, Snow Falling on Cedars, Slaughterhouse-Five, One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, The Kite Runner,A Time to Kill, Fahrenheit 451,The Lovely Bones,The Handmaid’s Tale, Cujo and the other listed Stephen King titles, Brave New World, The Anarchist Cookbook, Lord of the Flies, Pillars of the Earth, Jumper, That Was Then, This is Now.
I have seen film adaptations of some of the other titles listed.
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Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I said now, watch what you say, now we’re calling you a radical, a liberal, fanatical, criminal….
Free Brandon Crawford!
I am a logical person..
and am likely one of the few on here that knows where that comes from.
/LOLD
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I just glanced at that list quickly, but I was pretty shocked to see “To Kill a Mockingbird” on there. Honestly, who would possibly want to ban that? I really don’t even understand what could make someone think that’s ban-worthy.
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by Smoke on the Water on Sep 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT reply actions
Pissing contest
Ban that shit.
Seriously though, anything with the N-word is going get someone’s panties in a bunch.
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Answers for me
Banned books I’ve read:
Harry Potter, Of Mice and Men, His Dark Materials, I Know why the Caged Bird Sings, Captain Underpants (I used to LOVE that series), Huck Finn, Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird, Bridge to Terabithia, Brave New World, Slaughterhouse Five, One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest, A Time to Kill, Fahrenheit 451 (the most ironic banned book ever), Goosebumps, Are You There God, It’s Me, Margaret, James and the Giant Peach, A Light in the Attic, Lord of the Flies, Where’s Waldo (lol), Tom Sawyer
Books I reccomend:
I’m a big fan of dystopian novels, so I love Brave New World, Slaughterhouse Five, and Fahrenheit 451. His Dark Materials is awesome as well. To Kill a Mockingbird is amazing, and I love One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (and the movie adaptation is also great). If you even want a good cry, read Bridge to Terabithia.
I don’t think that any books short of books that explicitly encourage violence (e.g. Mein Kampf) should be banned, even for children. The First Amendment is there for a reason – if you start banning books, for whatever reason, people will start finding more excuses to ban more books. ‘Oh, this offends me, take it down’. What if Government had the same power over free speech? Political rallies of an opposing position to the government in power would be ‘banned’, and democracy would cease to exist. It startles me that we still have book bannings and consider ourselves a free country.
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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Sep 30, 2011 9:07 PM PDT reply actions
What if Government had the same power over free speech?
The government does have the same power over speech. Try going to an airport and screaming out a bomb threat, or putting up a pornographic billboard across the street from an elementary school.
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Well, that’s another issue though isn’t it?
Free Speech vs Common Sense
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That's a bit different
I would say that that’s similar to books that openly encourage violence, which I’ve already mentioned I think should be banned.
I'm just a simple Giants fan trying to make my way in the universe.
by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Oct 1, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course
There are exceptions to all of the Bill of Rights freedoms. You’ve named some for speech. There’s also:
Assembly: you can’t trespass or become violent (riot)
Religion: You can’t practice polygamy or human sacrifice, etc.
Press: No libel
Guns: No automatic weapons or large weapons
Search and Seizure: If you have illegal crap in plain sight or are arrested, etc.
And etc.
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Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
Ya gotta love
that school systems ban books because they might have a ‘bad" influence on some youngster’s development, but no one’s willing to ban ultra-violent video games that are the entertainment of choice for kids the same age.
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by SituationalLefty on Oct 1, 2011 8:59 AM PDT reply actions
As someone who plays ultra-violent video games and has since youth,
they really aren’t that bad. Pretty much everyone but the extreme minority see it less as actually trying to kill someone and more like an online game of, essentially, laser tag. But that’s another discussion entirely, and I agree with you about the fact that schools should not ban books.
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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Oct 1, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
"A Wrinkle in Time" was challenged?
geez
Rally Jerry!
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Are there any books that have been banned for sucking too much?
go rowand
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