Post-game thread: Ode to Vogelsong
Ryan Vogelsong had the lowest ERA of any starter on the San Francisco Giants this season. Lower than Tim Lincecum. Lower than Matt Cain. Lower than Madison Bumgarner. Much lower than Jonathan Sanchez. More than half than that of Barry Zito. Ryan Vogelsong.
It would have been weird if his name were something else. Ryan Jackson, 33-year-old minor-league gadfly and overseas veteran, coming back to lead the vaunted Giants' staff in ERA. That would have been weird, alright. Totally unexpected in that sort-of expected baseball kind of way. Some guy who had a 6.00 ERA as a member of the Pirates in the early part of last decade, and who walked almost six hitters for every nine AAA innings he pitched last year. Gee, that would have been an unexpected story.
But it was Ryan Vogelsong, former Giants prospect. It might as well have been Jason Grilli or Joe Fontenot. Jim Stoops or Robbie Crabtree. Jamie Brewington, William VanLandingham, or Jake Esteves. Jesse Foppert, Kurt Ainsworth, or Joe Rosselli. Nope, it was Ryan Vogelsong, for whatever reason. This feels like something that was presented to us while we were sitting in a sweat lodge, preparing for a vision quest. We pass out, wake up, look up, and see that Vogelsong led the team in ERA in 2011. What does it mean? How can we unpack this vision of an alternate universe?
After Vogelsong's 2010 -- terrible stats split between two teams -- it's amazing that he was invited to a big-league camp this year. He was going to be 33, and it had been ten years since his last good full season anywhere, at any level. He was lucky to get a spot in a AAA rotation, and I don't think that's hyperbole. Based on his performance in 2011 -- and 2010, 2009, 2008, etc... -- it wasn't crazy to think that there could have been 150 professional pitchers in the world who were better equipped for a starting gig in AAA.
He got his chance in the rotation when Barry Zito went on the DL for the first time of his career. Think about what would have happened if Zito didn't field a ball awkwardly in San Diego. Zito would have continued to stink. Vogelsong would have dominated the PCL. Well-meaning tweaks would have clamored for Vogelsong, and us enlightened, cynical folks would have scoffed. Dude has been pretty bad for a decade, and people would want to move Zito to the bullpen because Ryan Freaking Vogelsong had a nice little start in Fresno? Like the GM in the $3000 suit is going to make that move. Come on!
So the season was a dud, but there was a little magic this year after all. Without this guy, the season would have been completely insufferable. And he was fantastic tonight.
Also of note: against the Rockies in 2011, he was 4-0 with a 0.96 ERA. Ryan Vogelsong, suckers. Here's hoping he beats out Zito for a rotation spot next year.
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Can he win comeback POY?
"the player who is judged to have "re-emerged on the baseball field during a given season.
Not sure what he’s re-emerged from… Just know he deserves some type of recognition…
History disagrees. Every player who’s won has had some significant mark in his career… even Dimitri Young.
by TheFreakSFG on Sep 26, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
his only competition seems to be
Lance Berkman. That’s the general word going around anyways…
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 26, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Aubrey Huff
Comebacker player of the year.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Sep 26, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
He could win the 3u crown.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Disgusting! Disgusting! Disgusting!
No, not the game or any player. The fucking wave that went around the lower deck 4 TIMES!
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
by SFGuy on Sep 26, 2011 11:01 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
The whole stadium was in on it, much as we tried to stop them.
I blame them for Romo giving up a run.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
What did Kruk and Kuip say about it?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I find it pretty disrespectful, tbh. It’s like, why the hell did you come to the ballpark, because you obviously aren’t paying attention to what’s going on on the field.
As the wave started, there were boos. Full marks to those people.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Hopefully those are the bandwagon people that will disappear.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Then again, if everyone who did the wave disappeared, we would get Candlestick like crowds from the 70s.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I like bandwagon fans and hope they hop on board for awhile. It’s nice seeing Giants stuff everywhere and everyone wearing Giants hats.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Some I wish would disappear. Such as the fans who see the Juan Marichal statue asks who he is and the reply is “Some old guy” (this happened).
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
But they still go to the games and the team makes it’s money so they can have their Rainy Day Fund. And maybe that person learns and then learns some more and stops being That Guy.
One of the things I wonder is how many of the bandwagon fans that hopped on board after the Series are now full-fledged fans and how many were lost due to the soul-sucking suckiness of this season.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 26, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be curious about this too.
You’d think the magic of a world series would make them want another, but if you’re not invested in this team like a lot of the die hards I could see them moving on.
Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
Occasionally, I tweet.
If it was a fun season, I think a lot of the bandwagon is still jampacked with maybe more joining. But this season just wasn’t fun. I hope everyone sticks around because, as I said, I like seeing Giants stuff everywhere
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Almost everyone was doing it. It was a concerted effort to keep it going through three batters, despite interjecting cheers.
I sense a great disturbance in the force.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I wonder . . .
. . . if any of those yutzes have any idea that you’re supposed to do that (if at all) when the opposing pitcher is on, because it can be very distracting to even a calm man.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
is it okay in dodger stadium?
I join in the wave only at dodger/giants games, and I don’t wear Giants gear. The theory is that in this scenario, whatever makes the dodgers look worse…
by wewannahitter on Sep 27, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
it's perfect there
an entire stadium full of people playing with beach balls and not paying attention to the game. Also, you’ll blend in with the locals and be less likely to suffer assault.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
this is a false hope sir
It looked like at least 80% participation. Unbelievable.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 26, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You need their money.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Missed it by a SINGLE MINTUTE!!!
SfGuy
We’ll have a full report at 11pm. And he will never let this board forget about this night
by Giant among Angels on Sep 26, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
-—-
I was the sole crusader for justice!!
by Natto on Sep 26, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 27, 2011 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions
assholes
All of them. I think the jerk in the Red Sox Beckett jersey started it.
Unbelievable, and far, far worse because it was in the 8th inning as Romo was trying to get out of jams. SCREW ALL OF YOU.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 26, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t even know what to say. Morons have been trying to get the wave going at AT&T for some time now but I’ve never seen it take hold like that. AND IT WENT AROUND TWICE. No pride, no self respect and worst of all, no respect for the game. Stupid bandwagon, idiot “fans”.
That was some ugly, ugly shit. I wanted to punch each and every one of those dipshits.
Twice?
Try five times. It took the tying run getting to third to shut them up.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Sorry,
I saw it twice on TV but I heard it went around several times.
Yeah. Just reporting as someone who happened to be there. It was utterly baffling.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
never
have I seen waves like that. I thought I was at a fucking Big 10 football game. Damon Bruce must have been out there egging them on. “Go Hoosiers! Beat Purdue!”
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 26, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Just back from the game. I think the wave started in the outfield and went around full force 5-6 times. I’ve never seen it AT&T like that, it had a life of its own. Some guy on the radio said it started in section 144.
I always scream THIS IS NOT ANAHEIM!
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Anaheim Dodgers of Los Angeles?
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 27, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I MIGHT have been able to excuse it
had they been shitting the bed with another 15-2 “effort” like the other night.
They were playing at their best, in no small part because they had the best players available on the field. I was very proud of them for not phoning it in like the purple zombies in the other dugout.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on!
I laughed like a dumb ass when I read that line!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Sep 26, 2011 11:03 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
YES
Like the GM in the $3000 suit is going to make that move. Come on!
Wheeeeeeeeeeee.
by urea on Sep 26, 2011 11:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Sabean studied business.
Well, 18th century agrarian business!
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Reposting from last thread due to choppage.
Brandon McCarthy is awesome
Brandon McCarthy
BMcCarthy32 Brandon McCarthy
Tonight I felt an eerie chill on the mound and then gave up a homerun. I’m assuming that’s when Nancy Grace’s nipple made its appearance.
BMcCarthy32 Brandon McCarthy
Also, if I was somehow responsible for your fantasy championship, hand written thank yous can be sent to the Oakland Coliseum.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 26, 2011 11:04 PM PDT reply actions
I did see faux Brian Wilson at the ball park. An usher I know said that dude probably could get laid looking like that.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I saw that guy too. Frightening.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
This is how I want to live my life
“Brothers, oh brothers, my days here are done,
the Dornishman’s taken my life,
But what does it matter, for all men must die,
and I’ve tasted the Dornishman’s wife!”
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
isn’t that a Depeche Mode song?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 26, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Here it is
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI201104160.shtml
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
He’d change it in a nanosecond if you were a squid master.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I don't see how Vogelsong should even have to "beat out" Zito for a rotation spot
Although I am realistic, and in being so realize that Bochy will still try to make it an issue.
Croix De Candlestick: You'll be a better person for reading | My adopted Giant: the next Buster Posey, Johnny Monell
I think Zito’s pretty much dead to the team by now. They didn’t seem terribly upset all those times he was on the DL and were never in much of a hurry to bring him back.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 26, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's not be ridiculous
If he stays healthy, Vogelsong’s guaranteed a rotation spot for next year.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Vogelsong is almost surely locked.
The real question is who will be #5. Like your chances with Zito? Then how ‘bout JSanchez, who was supposed to be an “obvious” winter trade? It’s beginning to look like Surkamp by default. I’d be willing to take the chance to start, but what’s Plan B? (Oh, that’s right, this is the Giants: We don’ gotta show you no stinkin’ Plan B.)
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
there’s got to be another Giants retread pitcher out there somewhere…..where is Kurt Ainsworth these days?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Salomon Torres, to the white courtesy phone…
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
BRETT TOMKO
MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!
by Anonymous1337 on Sep 27, 2011 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
This will all be resolved when one of the other pitchers gets hurt next spring. We can have our Zito and our Sanchez, too.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
you know what....
I hope next year… we aren’t having to deal with all the damn injuries!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I feel like it ought to say that Vogelsong’s ERA is less than half Zito’s.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I literally typed that out
but then I decided not to post it because I thought it sounded overly critical.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 26, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Vogelsong:
While that bright, shiny ERA conceals a Quality of Pitching somewhat different (3.61), the result is still materially better than league average and well worth the #4 spot even on a pitching-rich team. He is one of the two players in the last several years about whom I feel I may have been materially wrong, and with the other (GasCan Casilla) I feel the jury is still out. All congratulations to Vogelsong for his perseverance, and may his career (with the Giants) last many more successful seasons.
Oh, and he might tell us how he has in fact done it. As recently as 2010, he was, well, not so good.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Righetti!
Or…
Well, no.
That’s all I’ve got.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Go Ryan!
Hear hear!
I am pleased that he completed this awesome year, and even if the fairy dust wears off next year, it will still have all been quite enjoyable and such a point of pride for him. We’re lucky he had this year while Showtime was around to chronicle it.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html
by achiappanza on Sep 27, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think he even knows. I think there was a bit on The Franchise (if it wasn’t that it was some interview) where he’s talking about being afraid that it could all fall apart any day and wondering if his next start is the start where he loses it and starts to suck again.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 27, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
OT
The player who was the subject of a possible racially offensive display is being accused of calling Rangers player Sean Avery a homophobic slur.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Having watched that (very heated for a preseason) game.
I am not surprised at this.
Sean Avery is a dick, but he is also the guy who was advocating for gay marriage in New York and greater representation for gay athletes.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Still a dick
And the only player that I can remember to single-handedly make a league create and enact a rule mid-playoffs because of something he did.
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
Sean Avery rule

I wish Sean Avery could just be a fully reprehensible dick. This other side of him makes it way harder for me to hate him.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Suck it Brodeur!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Marty was pissed!
Sean Avery is such a punk though… His sloppy seconds joke hehe
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
$3000 Suit
Where is the GM getting a $3000 suit? It sure is not Neiman Marcus that is for sure………..but after snagging Vogey he deserves one of their $7,000 suits………..
50 points to Grant
for conflating GOB Bluth and Brian Sabean. I can see that.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Sep 26, 2011 11:27 PM PDT reply actions
Watching highlights of Yankees-Rays. The home plate umpire threw out Russell Martin. I wonder if he told Martin to suck it.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Martin said he was actually joking with the ump, asking him if he stretched before the game, because he seemed to be tight.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
by rxmeister on Sep 27, 2011 4:19 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
What was the reaction to Pablo's sac bunt?
I thought it was a bad idea. He’s the best hitter or second best on the team and coming up behind him are Pill and Christensen- a huge drop off in hitting ability. The runner at second base is already in scoring position and you could pinch run for him(Fontenot I think) with Buriss or Ford if you wanted to be sure. Well it worked out anyway thanks to the Pill sac fly so congrats to Pill.
"I never stop being amazed by how much people who hate stats because they’re "flawed" quote so much more obviously flawed stats. " -Joe Posnanski
by RichHerreraHomer on Sep 26, 2011 11:39 PM PDT reply actions
Most thought it was a bad idea.
Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
Occasionally, I tweet.
It’s worth keeping in mind that DeRosa was on deck, but Pablo came out to lay down the sac bunt against a lefty. Pablo still can’t swing right-handed, so he was not going to take a real at-bat in that situation. It was the bunt or DeRosa.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Okay, that makes a lot of sense. That seems like a fine play then.
"I never stop being amazed by how much people who hate stats because they’re "flawed" quote so much more obviously flawed stats. " -Joe Posnanski
by RichHerreraHomer on Sep 26, 2011 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I'd rather Pablo sac bunt than bat lefty on lefty
I suppose it’s really, do you bunt or let DeRosa get a shot at hitting them in?
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 27, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
From baggs
Great try by Bochy in the eighth inning. Rockies lefty J.C. Romero walked Mike Fontenot and Bochy wanted to make sure Beltran got a pitch to hit. So he pulled Sandoval from the on-deck circle and replaced him with Mark DeRosa.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 27, 2011 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
The DeRosa deke didn’t work. Beltran walked, and Sandoval bounded out of the dugout again. The Panda had orders to sacrifice bunt and he did – the first of his career.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 27, 2011 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
you mean by the crowd?
A standing ovation for executing a bunt when told to do so, for the first time in many years no doubt.
As a strategy? As stupid as 95% of the other bunts they have ever executed.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions
No outs and the cleanup hitter at the plate? If he can’t get a grounder deep enough to move the lead runner to third for the inevitable one run, giving away an out with a bunt isn’t really going to help a lot.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
No outs, two runners on, down by a run late. You definitely increase your chances of scoring a run.
The percentages change if the hitter who’s bunting is very good, and/or those coming up behind him are very bad, if the hitter is likely to bunt into a double play, etc. Those conditions are sort of true here, but Pablo’s weird circumstances at the moment obviate them, I think.
one run up
two runs down. Three runs near-impossible.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Ryan MF Vogelsong
Thanks for a great season, and looking forward to having you back next year.
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
Next year... Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Vogelsong, 5th? Surkamp/Zito/Sanchez
PS: Does anyone know if Matt Cain will pitch in the season ending game? Or will Bochy put in Surkamp to test him more?
Tonight during the post game wrap
hubby said, “Flem is the Matt Cain of that group.” I had a “so glad I married you” moment.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
by Tortured on Sep 27, 2011 12:28 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Sage wisdom.
Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
Occasionally, I tweet.
He's the youngest, though
I think he’s more like the Madison Bumgarner.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
On a side note
I hope Fontenot returns next year.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 27, 2011 12:49 AM PDT reply actions
Bochy says: "Who?"
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Maybe Bochy won't be "invited" back
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 27, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope
whole coaching staff will be back next year.
Neither does Bochy.
And what the blazes have the morons-in-chief at SBN done now to further clumsy up their software?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Subject (required)
I wonder if this is how LL (and others that require a subject) is configured?
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Bochy talking up Conor Gillaspie after the game, according to Baggs. He’s taking grounders at second now. I think Keppinger’s unstoppable bat will be elsewhere next season.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Well, there’s exciting news.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, we’ll have Freddy Sanchez and Mike Fontenot anyway, so with any luck Gillaspie will be stuck in Fresno where he belongs.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
I think Cabrera is more likely to be on the ’12 Giants than Fontenot, tbh.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yeah. It just seems so wasteful to shed these useful arb players.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Or to DFA players like Ryan Rohlinger for no reason.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
GUESS THE STAT LINE
.276/.347/.518
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Without looking it up, my gut says Downs.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Well done.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Awww yeah. Context-based guess FTW.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions
**Ding, Ding**
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No such luck
Conor Gillaspie was drafted in the same class as Yonder Alonso. He was put on the 40 man roster, just like Yonder Alonso. This was his last option year.
He’s either on the MLB roster next year, or he becomes a free agent after they DFA him.
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I continue to apparently have no idea how options work. Option years count down even when you don’t burn them?
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
September callups use an option too, even where the guy doesn’t play in the majors during the rest of the year. And I think Gillaspie was called up at one point last year for injury replacement.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
He was put on the 40-man in 2008
Because he was only on a professional roster for about two months in 2008 that one “doesn’t count”, and he could be sent to the minors in four seasons during his career. 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, that’s four.
Well, they normally get three
But he gets an extra one because he doesn’t have five years in pro ball. As it happens, though, I was reading the rule incorrectly. I was looking at this:
A team may have a fourth option on a player with less than five full seasons of professional experience, provided that both conditions are met below.
1. A player has not spent at least 90 days on an active professional roster in a season. Minor leagues that play below Class A Advanced have seasons that are shorter than 90 days, and as such, any player who spends a full season in a rookie or Class A (short-season) league will receive a fourth option year.
2. A player has not spent at least 60 days on an active professional roster AND then at least 30 days on a disabled list in a season. Only after 60 days have been spent on an active professional roster does time spent on the disabled list count towards the 90-day threshold. As with the prior example, this cannot occur with players who spend a full season in a rookie or Class A (short season) league.
That’s quite confusing, and I thought it was referring to which years count as using an option; in fact those criteria are describing what counts as a “professional season.”
The consensus seems to be that Gillaspie did not use an option in 2008 because he was added to the 40-man only when he was called up to the majors, so he was never optioned to the minors. Therefore, since he has less than five year’s pro experience and gets an extra option year, he still has one left next year.
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But, wait...
Why doesn’t his time in the minors in 2008 use an option year? Was he not added to the 40-man roster until he was called up to the majors in Sep 2008? I was under the impression that being put on the 40-man was a condition of his signing.
Maybe because he was called up in September? I’m not 100% clear on it, to be honest.
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Well
If he wasn’t added to the 40-man until he was called up in September, then he wouldn’t have ever been optioned in 2008. So then he’d only have used three option years (2009-2011) and since he has less than five years’ pro experience, he’ll have one more.
Gillaspie's probably not much worse than Keppinger
And he’s cheaper. But if they were thinking of Gillaspie as a real option, why hasn’t he gotten more at-bats this month?
Who needs MLB at bats
when you have spring training at bats to judge people by!
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I know we haven’t seen much of Gillaspie this month, but I haven’t seen all that much to suggest he can be a .290 hitter, even an empty one, at the major league level. He just seems like another bland org guy at a glance.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
He's got good plate discipline, at least
He’s 24, and he was a better hitter in Fresno this year than 27-year-old first baseman Brett Pill.
And now reading that it seems bizarre that Pill would have been given such an extensive look.
Brett Pill was taking grounders at 2B while you wrote that!
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Pill got an extensive look because first they only planned on giving him a game or two but then he was hitting .300.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
HAHAHAH
Oh God this is true, isn’t it?
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of course
and the inevitable March hot streak will put him on the roster for April.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
The really puzzling extended look has been Christian’s. The expectation should have been that he would be awful, and he’s been awful. What’s to continue to look at?
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
The awfulness.
Oh God my eyes.
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The names of some people who had better OPSs for the Giants than Justin Christian in 2011
Aubrey Huff: .674
Andres Torres: .646
Mark DeRosa: .637
Jeff Keppinger: .621
Aaron Rowand: .621
Darren Ford: .661
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
so you're saying
Darren Ford will start 120 games next year.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Cornerstone of the franchise
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He bats righty, making him perfect for a platoon! A sweet, sweet platoon.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
VROOOOOOOM
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Mayor of Smug.
Only if Burriss is available to do all the wacky pinch running.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
He just jumped back towards first as you typed that.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
motorin.
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They're just trying to confirm their suspicion that they're totally going to make him the starting center fielder next year.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I really don’t understand the org’s obsession with Christian. I guess they’re hoping for a repeat of Torres, but he’s shown none of the ability that Torres did when he first played with the Giants.
I keep hoping . . .
. . . that it’s just an extended audition for 5th outfielder, which is not (or should not be on a well-run team, hah!) a critical position. It’s really SSS, and he seems to have pretty good days and pretty bad days, so I don’t know that there is enough data to form a conclusion, but for that role, lacking an obvious better, he seems adequate. If in the event it turns out not, it wouldn’t be a crisis.
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RIBEYES
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Pill made a quick impression. With Burrell’s career over and DeRosa’s power gone, I think he has a good chance as being the “RH pinch hitter with pop” that the Giants can never seem to nail down in 2012, not to mention taking spot starts at first against lefties so that Brandon Belt can continue to not develop.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
good
Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention.
Mark DeRosa is more than the sum of his tendons.
this
They need someone who can play more than one position.
That said, if that’s Gillaspie maybe they should have had him taking grounders at 2B before September 26. Oh, and maybe let him field some grounders at 3B too.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
That said, if that’s Gillaspie maybe they should have had him taking grounders at 2B before
Wherever he takes grounders, the sound of clank will echo throughout the park. I guess if he hits like Ray Durham, the clank will be acceptable.
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Yeah, I haven’t followed him carefully or anything but these are the reports I recall.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I've heard he's bad defensively
But is he bad compared to Keppinger?
He is faster (quicker ?) than Kepp, but does not seem to very good lateral movement. The glove is not quite as good as Keppinger from what I have seen in 3A. He is one of those fielders that generates a lot of “ooohh…should have had that” comments. Granted, what I have seen is a very small sample size of about 16 games.
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13 Wins
Vogelsong 13-7
Timmy 13-14
Madbum 12-13
Cain 12-10
We can still hope for each of the Big 4 to end up with 13 wins.
We’re still in this thing. Science.
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i dont think this is true
Vogelsong would have dominated the PCL. Well-meaning tweaks would have clamored for Vogelsong, and us enlightened, cynical folks would have scoffed.
i dont think vogey has as good of a season in the pcl. i think the fact that he got the chance to take tho mound for the champs is what drove him to have the season that he had.
heres to him taking the mound next year for the non-champs (us) and having a similar year.
i dont think vogey has as good of a season in the pcl. i think the fact that he got the chance to take tho mound for the champs is what drove him to have the season that he had.
Can’t argue with that!
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 27, 2011 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions
No Infante for next year
According to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, Omar Infante’s new two-year deal is worth around $8 million.
Exact terms should be revealed soon after the infielder takes a physical on Tuesday afternoon. Infante is batting just .279/.317/.385 in 146 games played this year, but he’s provided a major upgrade defensively at second base and should remain a productive all-around second baseman over the course of the new two-year contract.
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Drag. That's a good deal.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
heh
is batting just .279/.317/.385
OMG TEH HORRORS
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It's even better if you play him at SS, which we coulda.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
nah
woulda taken time from Miggy and Cabby
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions
it's only
$2M more than they paid Tejada for one year!
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Jesse Sanchez of MLB.com reports that Osvaldo Martinez will be sent to the White Sox along with a minor league pitcher in exchange for manager Ozzie Guillen.
Martinez, 23, was an 11th round selection in the 2006 MLB Amateur Draft. Known more for his defense than offense, he batted just .245/.296/.322 with three home runs and 26 RBI in 371 plate appearances this season at Triple-A New Orleans. He can’t really be considered a prospect. The trade is expected to go final on Wednesday.
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why would they even do something to trade for Ozzie? If they really wanted him (and why would they have?) couldn’t they have just waited a couple of weeks or so after the season and then sign him?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Heh
The Marlins immediately become far more exciting the moment they land Guillen, and look out: They could even. Immediately.
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/15646247/chisoxs-loss-with-ozzie-will-likely-be-marlins-gainwin
so then
Excitement level: hovering above absolute zero!
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Word is, he might jack up the payroll enough this winter to afford an Albert Pujols or a Jose Reyes.
Giant Pain will not be amused if this comes to pass.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
they can take their talents to South Beach too
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, SBNation
Now I know where the subject lines and the messages go.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I wonder if Jeff Sullivan has hijacked the code that displays that in order to get rid of the parenthetic “optional”.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
On his site, I mean.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s all his site.
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Use this to hide posts of dodgers in their skivvies
Inane banter
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Re: Thanks, SBNation
I think we should go back to the old way of doing subject lines.
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I'm probably wrong
But didn’t Zito get injured in Arizona?
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Yes
extrabaggs
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by Badly Browned on Sep 27, 2011 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions
You see Grant!
People actually do read your posts!
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 27, 2011 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
And skip over groug's comments, apparently.
;)
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Grout said that before me?
Then why did no one say BREAKING? Well, I guess I took care of it.
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by greekfro on Sep 27, 2011 7:01 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Groug
Damn autocorrect.
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by greekfro on Sep 27, 2011 7:03 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Groud
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Groul
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Grit (not optional for Giants Fans)
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Ughhh. Our fifth starter situation for next year blows
Ive finally given up on zito (took me long enough)
Sanchez prolly isnt coming back
I havnt liked what ive seen from surkamp
and looking towards the free agent pool doesnt make me feel any better
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Sep 27, 2011 6:56 AM PDT reply actions
I'd like Kevin Millwood.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Operation Dumpster Dive
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Why wouldn’t Sanchez come back? The only way to get value out of him when he goes is to let him at least marginally reestablish his trade stock. And he’s not exactly burning a hole in the team’s collective pocket.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess if they manage to trade him before next year. But, man, talk about selling low.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
We're spoiled.
Our fifth starter situation looks like many teams’ third starter situation.
by BestHyperboleEver on Sep 27, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
unfortunately
the cleanup hitter situation looks like many independent ballclubs’ 25th man situation.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I heard that part of the new agreement would include teams being judged and awarded wins based solely on starting pitching depth.
by BestHyperboleEver on Sep 27, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
sweeet
hopefully extra innings will be replaced by a pitch-off. They’ll hang a tire behind home plate, and teams will get a run for each ball through the tire.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Aptly summed.
For myself, I think their best possibility is Surkamp, who almost certainly, based on his history, has to be materially better than he showed. But they need a Plan B, and I’m not convinced that JSanchez is it.
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Oh geez
I would argue that the GM is wearing a $35 plaid button-up with a $45 pair of jeans.
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Oh?

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
LOL
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Sabean is a strange-looking dude.
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I think he looks like Dante Hicks’s drunk uncle.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
He looks like that central computer thing in the original Tron.
by BestHyperboleEver on Sep 27, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
So let's post silly pictures of him!

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Well that didn't work
Hmmm…

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
This explains the look on Sabeans Face
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No pit stains here!

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
So Sabes is a fan of the Village People AMIRITE
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Is this silly?
Because this is what happened to the pitching staff this year.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Silly

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classy
take your hands out of your pockets, dorks.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions
that's a very unflattering angle for both of them
but it makes Beane’s hips look child bearing almost
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Then perhaps you prefer

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Sabean kept his hands like that for the entire photoshoot, apparently.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I think the photographer moved around them, as they shuffled back and forth.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
why would you wear those outfits in a photoshoot
omg
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
“The thing I always admired about Brian,” Beane said, “is his self- confidence. Sometimes the art of a deal is lost when people focus on what’s given up and not what they’re getting. With Brian, he’s focused on how this will make us better. If it helps them, great. But that’s secondary. The guys who are really good in this business are the guys who are self-assured, and that’s Brian.”
“Also”, continued Beane, “I like that he never takes his hands out of his pants. That tells me that he’s so self-assured that he thinks he can walk around all day with his dick in his hands and no one will call him out on it. And no one does!”
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 27, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
that sounds to me almost like Beane is saying
“If I can convince Brian he needs what I’m selling him, I can get that asshole to give up anything for it!”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
This is funny people
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
man
I’ll never know how there was never a class action for consumer fraud filed against the studio for that title.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
This.
The “film” almost erased all good will that “Freaks & Geeks,” and “Undeclared” created with Apatow & Co.
Oddly enough, not funny at all
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
You're proving my husband correct
Any movie he likes, the rest of the world hates. He watched this movie practically every friggin time it popped up on HBO.
I liked it fine until the third act with Sander at his ex’s house.
That took forever.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
I'd tend to agree with this
The first two acts were immensely enjoyable to me, the finale much less so, but overall, a decent movie. It has something like a 60% rotten tomatoes score, which sounds about right.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Does Beane’s fleece actually have a stain on it?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
hahaha
I was wondering this too, and probably.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I think
part of that is the fleece pullover, some of those things are shaped like tents
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Mother hips Billy.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Can’t Sleep At All
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Awww… I can’t tell if those are actually jeans.
But at least my clever ruse to get this photo posted again works.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 27, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait, these are real?
I always thought they were shopped lol.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 27, 2011 9:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Huh
It feels a little surprising that Jimmy Rollins has never made more than 8.5 mil per year
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
and now for a completely different photoshoot...

matt kemp
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Los Angeles athletes are such tools.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
adblock
ftw.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Gee thanks, so much for breakfast….
And wth with the “subject” “message” crap?
Gee SBN are we really that duh-mb
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
You and Tortured can have fun on Banned Island.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
SB is joining me at the office today, and he’s threatening to start a My Little Pony subthread. This mustn’t happen.
A listener-supported service
What could there possibly be about MLP that would necessitate an entire subthread?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Which MLP character is what Game of Thrones character?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Seinfeld lasted 9 seasons, and it was about NOTHING!
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 27, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Seinfeld.
A show doesn’t have to be intellectual to be funny.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
I was looking for a famous quote by Roseanne Barr that snidely talks about how intellectual Seinfeld was but instead I found this, from EW, in it’s initial review of the show:
Still, it’s unlikely that Seinfeld will ever be as popular as, say, Roseanne — Jerry Seinfeld just doesn’t possess the ambitious cultural outreach that Roseanne Arnold takes for granted. It’s clear by now that Roseanne is capable of being as great as any sitcom in TV history — it’s our generation’s Honeymooners. But Seinfeldisn’t trying for greatness — instead, in its own modest, quietly loony way, the show is trying for something else: for perfection.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Is your name in reference to that Seinfeld episode then? or some other hipster thing that I know nothing about?
I always assumed it was from the original Meryl Streep line.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Part Seinfeld, part Buffy (it was the name of the Seth Green’s character’s band)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
damn with an accent
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
laaaawwwwng gaaaaaayme
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I like it.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I found Roseanne Barr's quote
“They think they’re doing Samuel Beckett instead of a sitcom.”
And she didn’t meant it as a compliment
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I enjoyed it too. I said that more because, well, Seinfeld for one, and I never really did like how they’d say it was a show about nothing, when it wasn’t about nothing anymore than many other sitcoms.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 27, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yikes. The one on the right says ‘Ravish me’.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Gross dude
What is this about?
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
MATT KEMP!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
It's an LA thing
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 27, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
While I was supposed to be writing this post last night, I was busy making that into a warning .gif.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 27, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Subject....(NOT FUCKING OPTIONAL ON AWFUL PICTURES)
(Comment)…Thank you jponry
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Great write up, Grant. Only just now getting to read this.
I wonder what song we will sing when he regresses to an awfully mean mean next season.
A coworker of mine brought in a peach pie for us this morning. Today is off to a good start.
Adopted Giant - Carlos Willoughby, 2011 Sally League All Star
err, make that a pear pie. apparently I want peaches.
Adopted Giant - Carlos Willoughby, 2011 Sally League All Star
Dammit, I am really jealous. My mom made me one of those a few months ago, and I still think about it sometimes.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Was listening to last night's game on the radio
and I was totally baffled as to why Romo was struggling so much in the 8th. Then I heard Murph and Mac this morning talking about how people were doing the goddamn wave while he was pitching?
With all due respect, screw those people. Shouldn’t they have been home watching Two and a Half Men?
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
I saw some highlights today
and was surprised to hear KnK talk about it at all. Yes, it was embarrassing.
I also noticed him fiddling with something on his knee under his pants, which I assume is a knee brace or wrap.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Fracture in foot
Assuming they shut him down.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 27, 2011 10:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
My nephew thought he saw him taking BP last night but with the sweatshirts and expanded rosters, I couldn’t figure out who it was.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Earlier this month I read he was on schedule to be ready for PH duty this last series. I have not heard any updates for schedule in a while.
by Myemail21479 on Sep 27, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
this situation will make off-season rosterbation problematic
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
I guess? Broken foot should heal 100%, and not be as questionable as say ligament\joint damage as far as projecting?
by Myemail21479 on Sep 27, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
this situation will make off-season rosterbation problematic
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Luckily, reply fails won’t affect off-season rosterbation.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 27, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
lulz
SeanGothman
Do you think the official #SFGiants tweeter gets paid in Ed Hardy shirts?
SFGiants
@SeanGothman not quite sure what that means, but sounds like a great idea
Aw.
The guy behind @SFGIants is a nice guy. He helped me get Lincecum’s autograph for a Bryan Stow fundraiser.
Also- no joke- his name is Bryan Srabian. Seriously, absolutely not making that up.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s a really cool guy.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Yeah, seems like it. Didn’t ever get to actually meet him, but we were emailing for a week.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I haven’t met him, either, but I’ve tweeted back and forth with him. He follows a ton of Giants fans on his personal twitter, which is nice. And, I know people who have met him. He seems really nice.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Huh.
Didn’t even know about that account ’til now.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
A Fig and Proscuitto sandwich sounds better than it actually is.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
that, sadly
describes an awful lot of “prosciutto” too.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I prefer prsut, the Croatian variety.
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 27, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I LOVE Workaholics.
…but this is ridiculous.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
I also watch workaholics
But the video ads are a bit much
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro: One who takes a curiously long time to reply to a comment
McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
So who's all going to the rookie season ticket holder gathering?
C’mon, I need at least one non-bandwagoner fan to hang out with today.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
There are no non-bandwagoner fans here.
/girls on the internet
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
good news everyone!
The Giants’ second-half performance has driven all those noxious bandwagoners away! Now it’s just us true fans!!!!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
And doesn't it feel fine?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
/Starts Wave
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
the rookie season ticket holder gathering
What/where is this event?
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Hoping for free hooch....
Where they have the fiestas by the Seal entrance.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
As a Giants “Rookie” Season Ticketholder, you are about to conclude your first season as part of the Giants family. We are happy that you will be able to join your Client Relations Staff and fellow “rookies” at a tailgate party before the Giants take on the Colorado Rockies during our last homestand of the 2011 season tomorrow night, September 27th.
The Giants and your Client Relations Staff want to take this opportunity to thank you for your loyalty this year and for your support of the Giants. We hope to have a life-long relationship with you, providing you with many wonderful and thrilling memories each and every season at AT&T Park, cheering on our San Francisco Giants!
The “Rookie” Tailgate party will take place at Seals Plaza, just outside the Marina Gate at AT&T Park. We’ll have pre-game treats, a live band, wine tasting from fabulous California wineries, face painting for the kids, raffle prizes and more!
Rookie Tailgate Party Details:
Giants “Rookie” Tailgate Party will take place at Seals Plaza on Tuesday, September 27th from 5:15 until 7:00 PM. First pitch is at 7:15 PM!
If you do not have your game tickets for that day, but would like to attend the game following the tailgate party (not required), you may contact your Client Relations Account Manager as a very limited number of tickets are still available for purchase.
For admission to the tailgate, REMEMBER TO PLEASE PRINT OUT THE RSVP PAGE AND BRING IT WITH YOU when you check in at Seals Plaza along with your photo ID.
This invitation is good for you and one guest, in order to accommodate all of our many “rookie” season ticketholders. No exceptions, please.
Bring your camera! This is sure to be a fun and memorable event!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Cool, so us veteran STHs should be able to dress you up in drag and make you carry MLP backpacks to the event.
(Have fun!)
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Hey I had season tickets before! I just left and went to vanquish Lich King and KilJaeden for a few years and is now back!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Red Sox Fans on Wednesday might disagree.
DSzymborski Dan Szymborski
My deodorant says 24/7 on it. I understand 24, but I’ve never had deodorant that doesn’t work certain days of week.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Also: Thank you SBN for the instructions. While it's not rocket surgery, maybe now newbs will make less m
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
by bigboneded on Sep 27, 2011 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
istakes
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
by bigboneded on Sep 27, 2011 11:08 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
WORKAHOLICS!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Message…
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 27, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Subject... (optional)
Message…
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Subject... (optional)
Message…
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Clothing...(optional)
Massage…
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
by jctGamer on Sep 27, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
not this year :(
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
those are charged separately
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
OT - Former Good Giant ALERT
Dave Martinez being mentioned as a possible replacement for Ozzie in ChiTown?
/stokes chin
He seems like a smart dude. Could work, no?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 11:16 AM PDT reply actions
Didn't I just see him last night in the Rays' dugout?
Bench coach for Maddon, maybe.
by mrs. owlcroft on Sep 27, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct!!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Where did 'shift-A' go?
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Probably just a bug when they implemented the new template text. I tried to rec something earlier and it was buggy (just sat there loading…) I’m sure the SBN bots are scouring the pages for meta comments like these.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
by bgunn on Sep 27, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
#HatsOffSF
A listener-supported service
by TheLetter2 on Sep 27, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
#HatsOffKBIU
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Yeah, it made it difficult to rec your post.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
by garbanzo24 on Sep 27, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Shift-A works for me
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
OT - Former Good Giant ALERT
Dave Martinez being mentioned as a possible replacement for Ozzie in ChiTown?
/stokes chin
He seems like a smart dude. Could work, no?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 11:20 AM PDT reply actions
I’d hire Mike Sarbaugh.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
I’d hire Byran Srabian
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
So, Bryan Srabian has a brother named Byran? Just when I thought things couldn’t get more confusing.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Shup reuter
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Somebody in the office wrote a mass email referring to Northern California as No-CA. I hate this person.
SaFra
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
BouBouGha
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
ThLett
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
The Northern California division of a certain grocery chain is referred to as Norcal internally.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I can deal with NorCal, Norcal, whatever. It’s a thing. But No-CA just seems even more lazy and dumb. And useless without context.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 27, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I got a letter from MANAGING PARTNER BILL NEUKOM today
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
ANY LEWD PICTURES
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 27, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Oooohhhhh….what did he say? Did he apologize for not setting up the Rainy Day Fund?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
just asked me to fill out a survey
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
actually, it was just his desk
P.S. Larry Baer comes in late at night and sits on me. Totally naked.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Do the same thing with his name from now on.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
That would amuse me. Sure, she wouldn’t understand what I’m doing but it would make me happy. I may do that a bit.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 27, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
@SergioRomo54
Sergio Romo
Yes i did!!!! It was time! That is all!!! Haha RT @I_Riddick: @SergioRomo54 son, you shaved!?!?!
Holy crap
He didn’t end with an exclamation point there.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 27, 2011 11:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The Bert Blyleven of music?
2011 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations: No, Rush didn’t make the cut, again. Let the annual wailing and gnashing of teeth begin!
And then there will be the "no Geddy, no peace" contingent. For the record, yes, it is a crime against humanity—resolvable only by a war-crimes tribunal—that none of the following have ever been nominated: T. Rex, the Smiths, Yes, Jethro Tull, Devo, Todd Rundgren, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Roxy Music, Willie Nelson, Warren Zevon, the Replacements, ELO, Chubby Checker, Hall and Oates, Los Lobos, Black Flag, X, the B-52s, Dick Dale, the Flying Burrito Brothers, Nick Drake, Captain Beefheart, Sonic Youth, and the Go-Go’s. Agreed!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
So this taller, rangier, ever so slightly more masculine version of my fantasy version of TL2 was hanging around the coffee bar today waiting for a sandwich. Wearing a Braves cap. He was with a lady, it turned out, sister, girlfriend, mother, I couldn’t tell. She was in a Yankees cap. Do people not take the sigil on their ball caps seriously??
I rhyme with freak.
CR= Crips? Don’t know about the others.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Saw some rapper sporting the old blue and yellow Brewers hat in a video and somehow he made it work. My guess, though, is that he probably wasn’t really a big Brewers fan.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
When I was in Seoul for a few days, coming back to US from business in Turkmenistan, I saw soooooooo many A’s caps it was the strangest thing..
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 27, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
oh what the fuck

talk about battling cancer…
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
The A’s have agreed to terms with 17-year-old catcher Seong-Min Kim from South Korea, according to a report from BaseballAmerica.com.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought Matsui said the A’s are big time in East Asia.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
When we were in Korea for the World Cup, it’s kind of a custom to bring small, representative gifts to bring for children you encounter in your travels. We brought a bunch of Giants schwag we collected over the years (caps, pins, etc.).
We were a little light on the US flag emblazoned gear.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
The figure skating national championships are in San Jose this year. I wanted to get some Giants gear for the skaters as sort of a “Welcome to the Bay Area” gift, but I think a lot of them are fans of other teams, and wouldn’t want it.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
well well
and I was wondering today where you’ve been lately.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
People are aware that massive protests
are going on in Wall Street right?
Not a lot of national media coverage, but thats not very surprising though. It would be interesting if like Iceland, the citizens manage to seize control of all economic duties.
MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!
by Anonymous1337 on Sep 27, 2011 11:39 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
They won’t.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Massive? Day one there was reportedly 200 people there.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Like the protests that used to occur near my condo in the Philippines. “Massive”. Honey if it ain’t 100,000 people it don’t count.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
well
don’t underestimate the power of mayhem, but in Berkeley we liked to think tear gas was the essential ingredient.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Pfft. Talk to me when the dictator has loosed tanks and armored personnel carriers. Talk to me when there’s helicopter gunships shooting at you. Talk to me when a breakaway group of elite military forces take over the heart of the financial district two blocks from where you live. All these things have happened to me, albeit the first two either without incident and at a great remove. The last one, pretty recent, pretty close.
Anyone raised white in this country and thinks they’re oppressed is a spoiled brat.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, c’mon. Protesting the invasion of Iraq, for instance, is not necessarily spoiled brat-ism. Just because you walked uphill, both ways, in the snow to your protests doesn’t mean that there aren’t important issues.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
thinks they’re oppressed
Protesting a war is different from thinking you’re oppressed.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
And I’m sorry, did I make you think I was on the protesters’ side in any of this? Okay, so I was 10 when the first revolution happened and my parents were hearty middle-class rebels, but as the years passed, I’ve become more and more convinced people need to be crushed.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Here is the thing, in America if you want to protest you can go to your little protest knowing that you can come home and nothing will happen to you. You protest in a lot of other countries and there is no guarantee you will be OK. Just look at what is going on in Syria.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 27, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
n America if you want to protest you can go to your little protest knowing that you can come home and nothing will happen to you
Not true.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
calgiants86 is pretty much right
In some other countries, people can get severely punished or killed for protesting (see: protests in Egypt earlier this year) while in America the worst that can happen is police brutality (which is also bad but not as bad as being mowed down by the military)
Rally Jerry!
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Being brutalized is pretty far away from ‘nothing’ but I agree that you are less likely to get killed simply for being there. Although that isn’t a very high bar to set.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
True
The police do sometimes abuse their power and hurt people in protests. In fact, I saw some videos of the NYPD hurting people in the Wall Street protests. We should not accept that as a norm but we should still be glad that we have the right to peaceful protest.
Rally Jerry!
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McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
I think many are thankful for that and they are certainly exercising that right.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
without bogging down in semantics
that sounds more like insurrection/revolt than protest.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha. Ask the anarchists if they're protesting or revolting.
I know what I think they are.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you there
cf. the BART nerds and their delusions.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha. I bet just by saying these things here Anonymous1337’s friends have already targeted me for reprisal. Because only THEIR speech is protected. Because “people who would trade freedom for security deserve neither”. Because “when the system is the oppressor everyone is an acceptable target.”
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Charles Manson thought he was starting a revolution too.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Bring up ANY of these warnings from history and committed ideologues will ignore you. Right, left, whatever. Everyone only ever remembers their own version of history. Which, granted, is because history is what is remembered, not what actually happened. But in the seemingly never-ending fracturing of commonweal, when we all have our own pasts and our own futures and everyone who doesn’t believe in it is either deluded or an enemy, there is no possibility of the only peace achievable: a tempered cooperation for the common good.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I see they’ve gotten to you too.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Protests beneath 10,000 people are pointless exercises in theater. Revolutions need blood. If you’re not prepared to either give your life or take someone else’s, you’re not a revolutionary. And you better understand that if your revolution wins, you will become the next tyrant. Exceptions are few if they exist at all. Even George Washington got called a tyrant for putting down the Whiskey Rebellion.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, now that I’ve said this, Anonymous’s friends are gonna try to kill me, no doubt. Just to be my comeuppance.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I would never target anyone :)
Anyway, as long as people attach themselves to an ideal or continue to be mentally conditioned to assume/disregard/hate/love certain things it’s going to be incredibly difficult to come together as a society and cooperate.
MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!
by Anonymous1337 on Sep 27, 2011 12:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
especially since I’m right about everything and everybody else is wrong and so they should do what I say
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Well thank you. One less person to look over my shoulder for.
“No justice, no peace” = there will NEVER be “justice” for everyone in this world, so there will never be peace. I’ve accepted that. It’s the source of my innate cynicism about all attempts to make the world a better place.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
The way our society has been constructed over the years has really separated us to the point of possibly never being able to come together as one, efficient “machine”.
MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!
by Anonymous1337 on Sep 27, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Al;so, many people look at a nation of people coming together and acting as one efficient ‘machine’ as the essence of evil.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 27, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I kind of couldn’t take that article seriously.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 27, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Well...
Fox has covered Tea Party rallies that didn’t have half that many people there.
We’re talking about news, not Fox.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless they're protesting about Jose Reyes' contract demands...
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
NEEDZ MORE OLD PEOPLE SCREAMING
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
MAAAAAAAAAT
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I read about that...
There has been a lot of police brutality reported.
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro: One who takes a curiously long time to reply to a comment
McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
So according to the Family Feud thing at the game last night
Clint Eastwood is the most famous San Franciscan. I forget the others, but Tony Bennett didn’t make the list.
NO BOB SAGET?
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Is Tony Bennett from SF? I thought he was from Brooklyn and just left his heart here.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, check this out
At the war’s conclusion he was involved in the liberation of a Nazi concentration camp near Landsberg,2 where some American prisoners of war from the 63rd Division had also been held
“Why We Fight”
WWRWD?
I figured you would be the one to know this, not be enlightened by it.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
THErE IS NO ENLIGHTNEMENT IN THIS WORLD
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t get me started on the Enlightenment and all its fucking thinkers.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Invisible hands for everyone!
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Sounds pleasant, actually.
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No

COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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holy crap
that was messed up.
Rob Schneider was like 4th. I wish I could remember the other choices, so bad that they got booed.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Steve Perry?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
nope
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
These are both very good.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Robin Williams?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
He was on the list somewheres.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Clint
Robin Williams
Jerry Garcia
??? (Zodiac Killer?)
Micheal Douglas
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
makes sense
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro: One who takes a curiously long time to reply to a comment
McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
I’m pretty sure Jerry Garcia didn’t make the list. Michael Douglas sounds about right.
Clint Eastwood
Robin Williams
Rob Schneider
They’ve done it two times with the same answers and different contestants. The dude last night also answered: “the band Train” and “Frank Sinatra.” I kid you not.
I’ve said this before if a McCoven ever gets selected for the game they should answer in McC me-mes:
1. Grant’s (ex-)Boss
2. Goofus
3. Lar’s Penis
4. Jeff Sullivan
5. 22Gigantes
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
LOL baseball
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Like Alyssa Milano!

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Sep 27, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Except
she’s a big Dodgers/Bums fan
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I followed her for a while until she posted a tweet asking people not to be so mean to each other over the Giants-Dodgers rivalry.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
His brother is hotter than he is.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I suppose it's personal preference.
Zac Efron to me looks like a jackal. All mouth, heavy eyebrows.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Personal preference? I like Nick Jonas more. And Kevin. The swarthy one can go drive off with his boyfriend.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
“Good friend” my foot. I’ve seen that guy in an off-shoulder sweater. “He’s a youth minister!” DEAD GIVEAWAY.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I assume Herb Caen didn't either
although he totally should have.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Shift-A: Sitting at a La Salsa in Pleasanton
How’s everyone doing?
What is the consensus as to whether Vogelsong can continue being a good no. 3/4 SP? I cannot imagine him maintaining a sub 3.00 ERA and he got roughed up a bit at the end of the year but definite a solid 3/4 next year…maybe mid 3 ERA and high 3 FIP/xFIP guy.
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Business trip
Court appearance…
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When I first got my burrito
I thought: Wow this thing is huge!
Of course I finished it no problems…
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a burrito? really?
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Wow this thing is huge!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
No I got it…just thinking about the reference to the burrito
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I was sad when La Salsa in FiDi closed down
I still think it’s ridiculous that in this city, freaking La Salsa could have a neighborhood’s best Mexican food. But that it was.
On Battery? I’m a block away. I didn’t care for it but went there for the fish tacos and mango salsa.
Yeah
It wasn’t great, don’t get me wrong. But it was the best Mexi food down here, which is pretty faint praise since Pancho Villa went out of business.
The taco truck on Battery is my go to for a quick mexican fix.
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 27, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Sansome & what?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Bush. It’s just around the corner from the Curry up now truck (amazing).
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 27, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 27, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Orale is not great
but it has to be better than La Salsa. I’d even take Chipotle over La Salsa.
WWRWD?
I dunno
I think Orale is pretty mediocre — I really wish it were better, even if it were as good as Puerto Allegre that’d be awesome. I go to the divey taqueria on 2nd street (I think it’s called Caramba), but I can’t pretend it’s great or anything. And I do go to Chipotle sometimes, but it’s a stretch to call that Mexican food.
I always thought that
the FiDi in SF would have pretty good food.
What about food trucks?
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There’s a Nom Nom food truck and the lines are long. Also a CupKates food truck, SO yummy if you like $3.00 cupcakes.
For $3 a cupcake I better like them
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 27, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Then you should love $6 pears!
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No
3 for $18
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I’ll stick to my $3 taco truck burritos.
by chilibean_3 on Sep 27, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
plenty of fancy lunches
cheapo food is not so inviting.
There are more and more hipster magnets rolling downtown daily.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 27, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh God no
There are some very good fancy places (Perbacco, RN74, etc) but the choices available for a $10 lunch are bleak. The trucks seem to always have very long lines. Also, personally, I like a place that I can sit in because I like to get out of the office for a while.
Ever try Chez Fayala? It used to be Chez Carla.
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 27, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
On Pine?
No, I was a little freaked out by the buffet situation. Is it good?
Yeah, that’s the place. Definitely my favorite spot for a sandwich in the FiDi. I’ve brought a few people here and they all enjoy it. The buffet is actually pretty great too.
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 27, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what's really fun?
Comparing Ryan Vogelsong’s offensive production to the rest of the team.
PA: 61
AVG: .226
SLG: ..245
OPS: ..513
Justin Christian beat him by a whisper and a prayer, even if it was the small sample size Olympics.
I wonder if the Giants are going to keep Whiteside?
He’s only arb 1 but has not played well offensively or defensively…I much rather the Giants keep Stewart
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I think we’ve seen Whitey’s last game. Sanchez and Stew will get the remaining starts.
I get sad in the last homestand identifying those that might be having their final outings as G’s (Lopez, Font…)
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
You think the Giants would sign Affeldt rather than Lopez?
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There was a story on ESPN (I think) that said all the Big Boys want Lopez and if the Cards, Sox, and Yankees get involved he won’t be here next year
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
Affeldt will be cheaper, possibly much cheaper. He’s not as good, but I don’t think shelling out a bunch of money for marginal improvements in relievers should be an off-season priority for the Giants.
but Lopez has that awesome arm motion and ability to make hitters look really, really bad. Surely, he’s worth it just for the entertainment value alone
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
he has a really cool nickname and I’m sure the ladies and a few of the guys like the way he looks.
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How can they lose a smart guy who wants to be in the FBI who also has a really fun delivery and whose nickname is a Guns n’ Roses song off of Appetite?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 27, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Too smrt
Makes Boch uncomfortable.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
What's interesting is that
Affeldt is actually younger and was actually better than Lopez against either LHB or RHBs.
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Affeldt had a rough stretch
But he was mostly damn good this season.
Yah I bet we don't see
Whiteside, Burrell, DeRosa, Lopez, Ross, Affeldt, Kepp or Fontenot, Cabrera, Beltran, or Ramirez back
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Arb-eligible
I think. I would think they would not tender one of Fontenot and Keppinger. Fontenot seems like the better one to keep, but I’m not confident they see it that way.
The most productive pitchers on offense . . .
. . . have been Casilla and Runzler: one PA each, one BB each. Hard to beat.
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Folks on KNBR will rage about this one
Janie McCauley of the Associated Press was first with the news that the Giants have offered contracts to all the coaches on Bruce Bochy’s staff.
That is certainly not surprising, even in the case of hitting coach Hensley Meulens. Bochy and GM Brian Sabean have said publicly and privately for some time that Meulens did a fine job despite the Giants’ standing as the lowest scoring team in the National League.
"Bam Bam worked hard, believe me," Bochy said. "He’s relentless. We feel he’s done a nice job and he deserves to come back here and keep working with these guys."
Meh
Giants’ lineup was pretty bad…
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Bam Bam is not the problem. Besides, he’s going into space.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 27, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Vogelsong and Zito will be in the rotation next year. Sanchez will be gone, one way or another.
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"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 27, 2011 5:41 PM PDT reply actions
I miss Jake Esteves
I think he could have made it, except for that pesky failed shoulder surgery bounceback problem.
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