Post-game thread: The Germans have bombed Pearl Harbor
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 23, 2011 10:38 PM PDT
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PrintYou know there's a Giants fan somewhere right now cursing Sergio Romo. I'm glad that fan doesn't get to watch the playoffs. I can deal with a little scorched earth if it means that guy is annoyed right now. Silver linings!
Congratulations to the Arizona Diamondbacks. I'm not a sucker for every worst-to-first turnaround -- there was never going to be sympathy for the Mat Latos, for example -- but the Diamondbacks earned the division. The horror of watching that bullpen last year must have been absolute. The die-hard fans built up a pretty rugged soul callous last year, and this must have been a pretty sweet reward.
Still rooting against them, of course. Rooting against them until they get to the Red Sox or Yankees, at which point I root for six straight months of sprinkler malfunctions. But I can't complain at how they won the division.
Just as the Diamondbacks deserved to reach the playoffs, the Giants deserved to have the playoffs file a restraining order. This team, man. The injuries are a legitimate reason to throw a pity party -- the only position player who was in the Opening Day lineup but didn't spend a month on the disabled list: Aubrey Huff. But Huff and Andres Torres not hitting like they did last year and the quicksuck pit between second and third were just as brutal to the team's hopes as were the injuries to Buster Posey, Freddy Sanchez, Pat Burrell, Brandon Belt, Pablo Sandoval, Cody Ross, Nate Schierholtz, Cody Ross again, Torres, Carlos Beltran, and Sandoval again.
Alright, when you put it like that, maybe the injuries really were the story of the season. But more than a couple of those names up there belong to fellas who have ligaments made from old mandolin strings, so maybe it wasn't all a cold bucket of surprise. Still stunk.
If you want metaphors, you got 'em. Metaphors on the streets, metaphors on the rocks. Metaphors in the gutter, every last drop. First, the Giants had eleven hits and one run. So Giants. No walks, one extra-base hit. A bunch of singles, spaced ever-so delicately apart. They'll find the bones of the runners who were in scoring position, but only after the winter snows melt. The teeth marks on the bones will be most disconcerting. It was a tough year all around.
And it was Matt Cain who got hosed. Of course it was. He still has a chance to get to .500, which would mean that Cain/Lincecum/Bumgarner -- three of the top ten pitchers in the NL according to FIP -- could all finish at .500 or worse. That's just so much meaningful information packed into one sentence. That's 2011 in a few words, though it doesn't say much about exploding ankles.
If there were any pitcher who was going to be victimized by zero run support and a ill-timed bullpen lapse, I'm glad it was Cain. But that's only because I fear change. Cain not getting any breaks is like a pair of old, hole-pocked boxer shorts. They're awful and horrid, but you're used to them. They're sort of comfortable and familiar. Also, the boxer shorts are filled with scorpions, and your genitals are horribly disfigured now. That's what it's like to watch Cain get hosed liked this year after year. So comfy, except for the awful pain.
Man, I hope, hope, hope Matt Cain doesn't leave because of this crap.
But the metaphor of metaphors was the Diamondbacks' rookie first baseman getting the game-winning hit, the Giants' rookie first baseman getting pulled for a pinch-runner in the seventh inning, and the Giants' veteran first baseman popping out to end the season. That's an omen for the present; that's an omen for the future. It's not like Belt at first for the whole season was the difference between first place and second ... but it just felt so perfect.
In Paul Goldschmidt's 11th game, he went 0-4 with four strikeouts. He was hitting .216/.275/.378 with three walks and 17 strikeouts as a major leaguer in 40 plate appearances. They kept giving him chances. He kept starting.
Belt had 58 plate appearances before he was sent down the first time. That's totally different. You can tell so much in those 18 extra at-bats.
One rookie had the game-winning hit. The other rookie was pulled for a pinch-runner, even though he's not exactly slow. That's the thing I'll remember about tonight. That, and Matt Cain getting hosed again. Those things, and the Diamondbacks hopping around like goofballs while the Giants moped around in the dugout, officially closing the book on the magical World Series run from last year.
When the lights go down, in the desert/When the sun shines on that shitty pool that's underchlorinated and teeming with bacteria.
It's over. Hell of a toboggan ride. Sixty-three percent proud, thirty-seven percent disgusted. Let me know if you think the ratios are off because I think I have a new tagline for the site.
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Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
looks like the catcher is unwilling...
lol
By Grabthar's hammer and the hands of Zeus, I shall avenge thee.
Very very scary gif.
Now I’m even more afraid of Beltran.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
What the
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 24, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Happened the other night when Beltran got HBP on his back foot.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ah. I missed the first couple innings of that game
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 24, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
your FACE
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
well that just made my night
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Hines Ward is in there so it's cool
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Sep 23, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I POSTED THAT IN THE GAME THREAD
MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!
by Anonymous1337 on Sep 23, 2011 11:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
What I'll remember
Me almost swerving into the Sutter Bypass when Miller screamed on the radio, “PILL JUST SWUNG AT A WILD PITCH!” on my way back home from my parents house.
That was an amazing swing.
Like, worse than Schierholtz swinging at a HBP.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ94rkwdTvQ
Angel Villalona 1, DR police 0
by the nenth inning on Sep 24, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man I totally did not know that happened
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowandesque swing at a slider that he missed by about 5 feet. It was brutal.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
No.
Can’t even besmirch Rowand with that swing. It was literally a swing I would take at a Romo slider.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 23, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Pill is crap
And I have no idea why people want him on the team next year. Crap.
And LOL BOCHY for taking Belt out of the game and allowing Downside to hit for himself. The man is stupid.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
um, he's hitting like .300
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Um
um um um. Um um, um um um.
UM!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He swung at a wild pitch?
I was at the Sharks game tonight, completely missed this one. Guess I’m glad I did, seems like it was pretty much like any other game during August.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 23, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Are preseason games cheaper than regular season games?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
We are friends with a family who are season ticket holders.
So tickets they don’t use they’ll sell it to us at face value.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 23, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I just wonder if the prices are lower for the preseason. The NFL charges full price for the preseason (so you could be paying $125 to see Tom Brady play one series in week one).
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Pre-season
At this point, I’m paying $129/ticket to not show up. I used to wonder who those people were. Now it’s me.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html
by achiappanza on Sep 24, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Some friends to sell you preseason tickets!
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 24, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I went to one but it was a free ticket (I won it from KNBR). It was a mid-90s game at the Cow Palace vs. the LA KIngs and Gretzky was playing.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
The one I went to was about five or six years ago
It might have been different before the team was good. It’s weird that they were called the San Jose Sharks when they played at the Cow Palace.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Preseason games are the same price
as the regular season.
"Sometimes when the hockey gods f*** you over, the only thing you can do is hope they leave you a twenty on the dresser."
I’m jealous! I was following along via gameday, did the Sharks really dominate the game as much as it seemed. And Dougie got a goal! Booooooooo! not being able to see it!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Yeah
Sharks dominated.
Though the lone time they had to use their PK they gave up a quick goal. :/
Ducks just looked outclassed 5on5 though.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 24, 2011 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap
I’m glad I stopped paying attention.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
gee you guys are negative
Maybe the pitch called him names.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Jon said “Pill just swung at a pitch in the other batters box!”
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 24, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
What inning was this in?
I want to watch it and seethe.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
8th.
It’s in the condensed game.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Wow.
Woooooow.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I’ve never been able to find the damn condensed games on MLB’s site. I’m a bit of a Luddite sometimes. Anyone know where the link might be?
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
They bury it for some reason. Here.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
My paranoid-conspiracy-theory-thing is that they hide the links so we won’t actually use their bandwidth.
I think anyone, even non-subscribers, can watch condensed games on mlb.tv, but maybe I’m wrong.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
lolololololl
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 24, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
so what thing are we in now?
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
a state of depression?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
You'll get Yuniesky Betancourt
and like it
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
If the Giants re-sign Orlando Cabrera, I will probably cancel my season tickets.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Tejada 2.0.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Tejada took considerably less time to hit more than one HR.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
No Buster
No heart on the offense outside of Pablo
No brains from the front office and manager
No legs from Beltran
We absolutely did not deserve to go to the post-season this year. If we don’t provide an offense to our pitching, siyanora to our aces folks.
"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum
We’re back?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
It’d be awfully hard to tune in with your radio off.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
But how do you know if you’re sharpening the signal without having it on?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I'm glad I didn't hear Romo giving up the game-winning hit
I would have definitely swerved into incoming traffic on Highway 99 then.
Me three.
He’s had an awesome season.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Present
/raises hand
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
im just gunna think about this
McCovey Chronicles - The repetition is awesome. Proud Adoptive Parent of BRETT PILL.
READ MY BLOG!!!!
by sadison bummedgarner on Sep 23, 2011 10:47 PM PDT reply actions 16 recs
OT
Tuesday on ESPN at 5 PM PT, “Catching Hell” the story on Steve Bartman.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
They were suppose to show that last year.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 23, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh
Go Sharks!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
by Merope on Sep 23, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No pony pics from me tonight
but here’s a video from screwattack that I really like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8er83h9Bbn8
Nintendo, Yoshi, and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fan.
I blame the #hatsoffSF spammers for this whole thing. Everything was going fine until those assholes showed up.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
by jponry on Sep 23, 2011 10:51 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
that hatsoff crap was bad, but have you seen the spamination of the SBN football blogs? There is so much ad crap that the sites themselves are just about unusable.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
that hatsoff crap was bad, but have you seen the spamination of the SBN football blogs? There is so much ad crap that the sites themselves are just about unusable.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
this.
Those fucking McCoys. Time for a feud.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 23, 2011 11:04 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
I’m considering changing my name to Hatfield.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
YEAH!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
#hatsoffjponry
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Hey!
At least Grant got paid!
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 24, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t! Indirectly, maybe, but not any more than I normally would have.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 24, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
From a Dbacks fan
It was a good rivalry this year, and hey, you guys are still the defending World Champions so far.
Looking forward to a heated season next year when we have guys like Stephen Drew back, and you have guys like Buster Posey back.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
I'm sorry
But I don’t count the DBacks as a rival. I still hate the other teams in the division more.
Let me change that
“It was a good competition this year”.
Joe Saunders: "They played a really good game, so hats off to us"
Would have to agree. DBacks are hardly what I would call rivals. But you won’t get far I predict………Destiny just doesn’t work with average teams
Congrats anyway though
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Sep 23, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't tell if you're serious, but if you are...
…being a sore loser is probably the smelliest human behavior there is. It’s like 6 day old halibut wrapped in gym socks smelly. Also, nobody outside the Bay Area thought the Giants would win last year, so…
Then again, if you’re joking: Nice chasm.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
Hardly a sore loser
I say they are average. Waited a lifetime to see our team win it all. I just don’t see all the parts on this AZ team that can beat teams like Philly, STL or ATL. Without great pitching (which we had last year), combined with timely hitting and some luck they won’t go far in the playoffs.
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Sep 24, 2011 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions
You sound like others talking about the Giants last year
The thong is, it happened.
by Goofus on Sep 24, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Congrats on clinching the NL West title
You guys deserved it. As for us Giants fans, we hope that we have a better season next year.
Nintendo, Yoshi, and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic fan.
AZ was a better team this year
I won’t root for you guys in the playoffs, but it was definitely a great season for you guys.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Only by relative health
Az was better with more players healthy/ less injuries. Drew was much later than Posey. But they’ve still got a long way to go to get to the pitching to win a championship.
I’ll probably root for the Diamondbacks over the 3 big spenders: Phillies, Red Sox, Yankees.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
While I appreciate the sentiment, I still find this kind of thing to be kind of patronizing and poor form.
But whatever. You guys did earn it, and the Giants certainly didn’t deserve it.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't find this to be patronizing or poor form at all
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
it would be different if I ran into a Dbacks fan on the street or something, but the whole “let’s congratulate the losers on their blog” thing I don’t like.
but that’s just my opinion
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you
I don’t have anything positive or negative to say about the Dbacks though. My concern is the Giants. The only thing now is for the post season to end as soon as possible so the Giants can start making moves to improve the team. Hopefully Sabean won’t screw it up, and the owners will give him finances to work with.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
based on the guy's response comment about being a sore loser
I think he’s probably here to troll.
Except...
The original comment and the “sore loser” comment were by different people, but, y’know, facts being irrelevant and all that.
by azshadowwalker on Sep 24, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I noticed that a bit before you commented
But thanks for being polite about it. Having fun lurking on another teams’ blog posts from yesterday?
I congratulate you
And I expect to see this be a rivalry for the next couple years.
But honestly, this isn’t really the night to show up here, even when you’re being courteous. Your mere presence is a provocation. Not that that’s right, necessarily, but emotions are high right now.
by taliesin on Sep 24, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
eh
It’s a rivalry in the sense that there was a rivalry with the Rockies in 2009 and 2010.
I’m not really seeing high emotions right now. Nobody is particularly surprised or saddened by this outcome.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED
SHOCKED I SAY
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
True
But if the shoe were on the other foot I would consider it bad form to head on over to AZ Snakepit, to talk about anything, even if I weren’t gloating in any way. Basically once I said I was a Giants fan those guys would think (not necessarily wrongly) that I was coming over to gloat.
If you went to Lone Star Ball, you would be told to dive into a pool of dicks
But only one person so far has had a problem with this at all, and even he appreciated the sentiment. I’d like to think that we’re rational enough not to do that.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I’m going to rec this.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
(in lieu of telling that guy to GDIAF)
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
c'mon
When the Giants tipped their caps to Bobby Cox last year, most of us were in awe of how classy the Giants were. Glad the Braves didn’t tell the Giants to “stop provoking us”.
Not picking on you taliesin, but if we can’t handle a verbal handshake, I’m embarrassed for the McCoven.
The thong is, it happened.
What about a verbal handjob?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I think that’s what that was.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I apply lotion to them daily.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
That was exactly the kind of game the Giants would play in Arizona’s clinching game. I mean, how many times this year has the offense scored one run and then taken the rest of the night off (Hey, Game of Thrones isn’t going to talk about itself)? How many times has Bochy left a starter in until he gave up the lead? How many times has Matt Cain gotten hosed because this offense is a wretched shitpile (Okay, that’s not fair. This offense is excellent at being a shitpile)?
Plus, it worked well as a metaphor for the whole season. They took an early lead, held it for a while, and went dead. In the ninth, they got the leadoff runner on, which was fairly hope-ish, but you just knew they weren’t going to do anything about it. But you could convince yourself – hey, maybe… – without ever really believing it.
In conclusion, this game was the Platonic ideal of the 2011 Giants season.
Also, even though it was fun watching Cain pitch well for seven innings, that game kind of blew.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
by groug on Sep 23, 2011 10:52 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
wrecked for wit and succinctness
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 3:39 AM PDT up reply actions
The offense is a magnificent palace of a shitpile. A shining shitpile on a hill.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s one of the lesser known drafts.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
quality historical wisecracking here
well done by both.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Yeah!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just when I’m sinking into near-suicidal depression, you guys make me laugh.
Well done, MCC.
(that’s the new blog, McCookin’ Chronicles.)
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
you know what I'll do?
just watch some of the playoffs and hope for good baseball.
Then see who the NL Champ is and root for them……………maybe
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Sep 23, 2011 10:52 PM PDT reply actions
I wonder if Renel will introduce the Giants on Monday as “the 2011 defending World Series champion San Francisco Giants!!!” when it’s likely the Giants will be eliminated by Monday.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
We're still in this thing!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
It had to be this 1
Another loss tomorrow gives us a good look at prospects. It’s been burning me for awhile now to see Runzler start again, he got seriously burned by the HP ump Culbreth going all arrogant. Chumped him against the pitcher and that’s a serious breach of ump code: squeezing rookies is a fact, but you give them strikes against the opposing pitcher. Culbreth fucked Runzler’s whole season up in this AB:
by muzak on Sep 23, 2011 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You think Runzler is getting a start if they’re eliminated? Why?
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
I wouldn't mind MadBum being shut down
Lots of innings over the last two years
The thong is, it happened.
the time has come
Vote Posey and Bumgarner in 2012.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
This will probably make us all feel dated, but they won’t be old enough to run for president for eleven years (Posey) or thirteen years (Bumgarner). Slightly comforting fact: They’re almost old enough to hold a seat in the House. Either of them could run in 2014.
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Amend the Constitution in 2012, THEN vote for Posey and Bumgarner!
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by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely
I’m already a little worried about him. Not many 21-year-olds throw anywhere close to that many innings.
I agree
Start Zito on Tuesday night in MadBum’s place. It’s a meaningless game, with no pressure, so if Zito can’t perform ably in that sort of start, it helps the team figure out what role, if any, Barry has on the team in 2012.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Same role he’s had since 2007 – driving us crazy?
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
All the horses should rest
Once they’re eliminated MadBum and Vogey for sure get shut down, Vogey’s thrown more innings this year than the last 2 combined. Lincecum and Cain are just more valuable for the rest overall. Runzler can start, Surkamp, would like to see Jason Christianson coming from the Chico independent league. There’s a few other arms in aaa that are worth looking at.
I wouldn’t mind Lincecum and Cain being shut down as well. Let Mota and Zito start.
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Yes, because they have thrown a ton of innings the last two years
and
No, because I want shit worth watching dammit.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Runzler fucked his own season.
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Was it a season in the sun?
He had joy, he had fun
/fears this reference is too dated for most of this crowd
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I get it, but only because of those nearly-constant “AM Gold” commercials when I was a kid.
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But the wine and the song
Like the seasons… have all gone.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
He’s pitched about 7 innings in the majors since June. I don’t think there’s enough of a record to make any conclusion whatsoever.
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If Sosa was called out properly there instead of walking, Runzler goes on in that start from that 2nd inning most likely. If he even makes 1 good start that’s huge. He was getting squeezed on every hitter in that game, against hitters OK, but this was a real asshole maneuver refusing to call obvious strikes against the pitcher. If he gets another start we’ll see if he can control the stuff he’s got.
Making 1 good start against the worst team in the majors is about as much data as 7 innings pitched. Which is to say almost none at all.
I’d say that the much larger volume of work in the minors suggests that he can’t control the stuff he’s got.
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That worst team managed to beat more of our pitchers than Runzler. He still hasn’t started enough in aaa to make any determination. He’s throwing 96, 97, that right there makes him vulnerable. Runzler is a good trade piece if they prove he can start in ST.
I didn’t realize this, but he actually had 10 starts at AAA this year. His walk rate in all of his appearances at AAA this year is > 5 BB/9. That’s atrocious.
And what does
He’s throwing 96, 97, that right there makes him vulnerable.
mean? There aren’t many teams out there that are going to take 2012 ST stats as more indicative than his larger body of work, so no, regardless of his 2012 ST, I doubt he’ll be a good trade piece.
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He’s still a “thrower” he’s not pitching at that velocity- he has to find a velocity he can control. But you’re mistaken if you think at lefty that may be able to control 95 isn’t valuable. Dick Tidrow is known as one of the best pitching coaches in any org, just the fact that he works with Runzler makes him valuable. Along with Gardy and Rags I have faith they’ll make him into a decent starter. He made the transition from the pen this year, that’s not a point when you can evaluate. He’ll start in aaa next year, if he dominates they’ll either move him or use him in place of the potential next disaster of Zito.
Isn’t this basically the exact same thought process about Jonathan Sanchez the past 2 or 3 years? Sure, if he finds control, he could be as good as any pitcher in baseball. But what are the odds of that? I’d rate them as relatively low.
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Sanchez’s issue was never about controlling the fastball until this year, and it’s still more about controlling the space between his ears. Pitchers who have mechanical rather than head issues are the big pluses, a guy like Sanchez is a much bigger issue.
I see. And you have some proof that Sanchez’s walks result from mental lapses whereas Runzler’s walks are due to mechanical lapses?
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Proof that J. Sanchez is a head case?
I watch the mlb gameday tracker like the pic above, 1 pitch like Runzler got shafted on sends Sanchez into orbit, he’s in a battle with the ump every game, not to mention his own head.
From what I’ve seen of Runzler it’s a consistent overthrow that sets him off. Case in point he was taking a lot off to Sosa, and he was controlling it.
That is not convincing proof.
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His motion is hard for him to repeat.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 25, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I write this on the GDT but I'm still angry to I'll post it again
THEIR ROOKIE FIRSTBASEMAN GOT THE DIVISION CLINCHING HIT….FUCK YOU BRUCE BOCHY
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Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
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by Falconer88 on Sep 23, 2011 10:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
So I think I'm going with this
1. Brewers
2. Tigers
3. Rangers
4. Diamondbacks
5. Braves
6. Phillies
7. Red Sox
8. Yankees
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
mine is pretty much the same
except switch brewers and tigers
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I am still so full of bile over that post about Buster that I can’t bring myself to root for the D-backs. They’ve got a good team, a compelling narrative, and some likable players. They might even have a random Jewish slugger, which is cool cause I pick weird reasons to root for teams. But I just…rrrrrrrgh.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I can name multiple asshole Giants bloggers too, so I can’t really hold that against the team.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Yeah, I know
I mean, I kinda like the Phillies as a team, and we all know what their fanbase is like. (Though oddly enough, The Good Phight is one of the more welcoming and friendly baseball blogs on SBN.) That one thing just really got to me.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Goldschmidt Jewish?
When I think of “Jewish slugger” I of course think of Ryan Braun.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I'm not sure - he's certainly got the name for it
Braun is one of the compelling reasons I’m rooting for the Brewers. There’s so few Yids succeeding in pro sports.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
It's too bad he didn't actually say this
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
by El Person on Sep 24, 2011 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Although Tony Plush is very irritating.
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Yeah, but you got like, the whole media. And people think I’m Jewish, so that’s even more evidence.
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I thought it was National Palestinian Radio.
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/pats TL2 on the back
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
/donates again
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Well, now I am!
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Quick! Fabricate a process for cold fusion! No one’s tried that scam before!
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*shakes fist*
Come up with a better scheme please!
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by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I think of a circumcised baseball bat.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
by Woody Wins on Sep 24, 2011 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
“His mother’s vagina wasn’t Jewish.” – David Cross, sorta
Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention.
Mark DeRosa is more than the sum of his tendons.
by oldjacket on Sep 24, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Q
However, the Diamondbacks feel he may not need any more time in the minors. He’s that good. Now, I know what you’re thinking: a big right-handed hitting first baseman who can hit for average and power. Just like Hank Greenberg. You may be right over the course of time. However, there’s one difference. Greenberg was Jewish, Goldschmidt is not.
So adopt him if you will as a future star player – but not as a Jewish star player. Shel Wallman’s Jewish Sports Review is a good way to follow Jewish athletes on all levels. But, you should know that JSR identifies athletes as Jewish as long as they have one Jewish parent from either side.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 24, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, pretty much
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
For me, it’s as long as Philly doesn’t win. I don’t know why, but it’s funny that Doc and Lee don’t have rings yet and I’d like it to stay that way.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Close
For me:
1. Brewers
2. Rangers
3. Tigers
4. Diamondbacks
5. Plague of locusts eats the eastern seaboard and cancels post season baseball
6. Braves
7. Krakatoa spews open again, spinning the world into a year or more of volcanic winter
8. Phillies
9. Zombie Apocalypse
10. Red Sox
11. Michelle Bachman 2012
12. Yankees
by nKoan on Sep 23, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Really pulling for the Tigers again
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Mine
1. Brewers
2. Tigers
3. Phillies
4. Rangers
5. Braves
6. Diamondbacks
7. Yankees
8. Red Sox
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Phillies at 3 is more a reflection of my dislike of the teams below than any love for them
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I find it very difficult to root for the Seligs/any team with or Nyjer Morgan on it.
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I don’t like handegg because it’s far too gladiatorial for my taste. Morgan’s in the wrong sport for his antics.
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I know. I’m just saying stating that I don’t like handegg because of the machismo “I’m going to kick your ass element,” and Morgan seems to bring too much of that machismo to the table. Not saying that he’s a football player. Just that I don’t like that vibe.
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Blowing up the Cardinals back-up catcher (Bryan Anderson) last year was way worse than what Cousins did. He’s a dangerous player, and I’d have a very difficult time rooting for him and his team as a result.
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and
trying to do the same to Whitey the day after Posey got injured.
Fuck them and the Commissioner.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, I was misremembering which backup catcher he blew up. 3 days later, he separated Marlins catcher Brett Hayes’ shoulder, which is especially rich considering that after the collision with Anderson he said, “If there is a next time, I guess I will slide. I don’t want it to look like I’m trying to hurt somebody.”
Which is what precipitated the awesome Gaby Sanchez clothesline the next night.
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He was grinning when he got up after running Whitey, he knew exactly what he was doing. Fuckface.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
The Seligs do not own any part of the Brewers anymore.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Like Dodger taint, it’s hard to extirpate.
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also
all politicians hold their investments in blind trusts.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Mine
1.Red Sox
2.Brewers
3.Phils
4.D-Backs
5.Tigers
6.Rangers
7.Braves
8.Yankees
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 24, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd switch Philly and Boston
Something about Philly winning it all would make m stomach turn. Philly fans act so entitled and a win would “prove” that losing to the giants was a fluke. Screw that vindication
The thong is, it happened.
Mine exactly.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
THEIR ROOKIE FIRST BASEMAN.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 23, 2011 11:00 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Playing Aaron Hill and Sean Burroughs and probably a rookie first baseman for all I know…
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RAGE
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Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
by Falconer88 on Sep 23, 2011 11:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL ESPN
Instead of covering one of the three teams that clinched their division, the cover Rays-Jays because it affects the Red Sox.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That's to start the "Highlight Express"
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Sixty-three percent proud, thirty-seven percent disgusted. Let me know if you think the ratios are off because I think I have a new tagline for the site.
Right now, it’s only 53.5% proud.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
The DBacks are only 14 years old and they have 5 division titles.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
that surprised me too. Seems like new organizations do well because they don’t have all these “old, outdated ways of doing things” like the Giants do.
new organizations seem to really value the draft- Marlins, Dbacks
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really
Both those teams won their championships by signing free agents, especially the Marlins. They value the draft now because of ownership holding down the payroll, and they haven’t won shit since. I’m kind of tired on all the ragging the Giants are taking here about the way they do things. They won the fucking World Series last year, and most of their key performers were home grown. The Giants don’t value the draft? Posey, Sandoval, Lincecum, Cain, JSanchez, Bumgarner, Romo, Wilson, Schierholtz, Ishikawa, all important parts of a World Champion team. Give me a break.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
The first DBacks owner basically threw a lot of money at Finley, Schilling, Johnson et al and none of those early teams came from the farm system. Then, like the Marlins, he realized it’s hard to make money and sold the team. The new owners seem to understand how to do things and are a pretty good franchise right now.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 24, 2011 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually most of the home grown players on the Dbacks are a product of the previous ownership and philosophy. Just because they won the division this year over an injury riddled Giants team, doesn’t mean the Dbacks do it the right way and the Giants don’t. I have more problems with how the manager uses his pieces than I do with organizational philosophy.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
They have historically ignored the draft.
So, you’ll forgive me if my long-held opinions don’t change because they won the World Series when, in 5 out of the last 6 years they haven’t been able to field even a league-average offense.
For reference, the Giants have been in the NL West for 42 years and they have won 7 division titles.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Damning
But not completely fair. The Giants mostly had more teams in their division than they do now. (I think six others instead of four.)
1969 to 1992: 5 other teams
1993: 6 other teams
1995 to 1997: 3 other teams
1998 to present: 4 other teams
The Diamondbacks have only existed in the last portion.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
right
division flags are much cheaper than they were before 93.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions
So i actually listened to Byrnes tonight... made a case for Pill to start next year
saying that he’s gonna compete with Huff for the starting position at first
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Can we trade Byrnes to New York for an awful talk show host to be named later?
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
yea, i think i could approve of this
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Russo, PLZ!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
This. So much this.
First thing Mad Dog would do is go to the KNBR studio and beat the crap out of Ralph followed by a half-hour harangue on the blistering idiocy that is Bruce Bochy.
This would be awesome
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Now that Krueger is back (and apparently back in the Giants' good graces)
why not just move him back to his old SportsPhone 680 slot at night? He could talk about sports, solo, something he’s quite good at, without having to share time with Gary Radnich
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Only thing i'm not a fan of is the fact Krueger is sharing time with Radnich.
It just sounds so bad with Krueger and Radnich. If i remember correctly, i thought Krueger was a pretty big critic of the Giants, but he just doesnt sound like it as much thus far while being on with Gary.
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I’d guess wuzziz name…Byrnes? has a contract. If he screws up or the contract runs out, or he gets a better gig… Krueger might end up back on Sportsphone.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I'd be fine with that, he's better than Byrnes.
Almost think Gary is on his way out sometime soon though, considering they’ve switched it up with him a few times, especially when he took that “vacation” when Damon joined him
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I’ve been wondering if Gary’s sick or contemplating retirement or something. I’m not a big fan of his but all his absences lately, and the teaming him up with somebody else are all odd. [I know he had the kidney stone thing awhile back, but I mean something more seriouser than that.]
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Yea… me too really. I kinda was ok with him when Dibley was around, but ever since he left it’s been bad. But, he took that 2 week long vacation because of being paired with Damon. Then as soon as Damon got his show back he came back.
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I dunno, I think they want to “get younger”, he’s been making wisecracks about “demographics” for years but since the Gary and Larry adventure he’s done it more. The other day he was asking each caller if they were in the right demographic.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
And plus the schtick is getting a little old with him. It used to be a little funny, but not really anymore… Plus i think they’re going to compete with The Game. Because i’m listening to them in the morning now, so much better than Gary
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Definitely meh on that station. They had Papa guest-hosting one day I was driving up to SAC, that was bad. I think they dumped Rob and Arnie, though, that was a smart move.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea… not a huge fan of Papa AT ALL. He’s all about saying how Pill could be something, and a big giants apologist. it’s bad. But i just hate how 957 has their commercials just RIPPING on knbr
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CSN’s team is really bad. Papa, Estes, Bip… blargh. I thought Aurilia was OK, and I don’t mind when they have guest guys like Vida or Bill Laskey or whoever once in a while. With all the cool former Giants they have to choose from…
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup.
Definitely lacking on the analysts, but it’s still kinda new, right? Everybody likes Henry Woffard, tho right?
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I don’t. Too loud. The younger guy with the glasses (John Henry something?) is fine, I don’t mind Benz either.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Papa kind of kills the whole thing
But when Urban or one of the other CSN guys is on with Lund in the late morning/early afternoon slot, it makes the channel pretty listenable for most of the day.
Tierney and Davis are awful though – I switch over to Pandora at that point.
I can't stand Urban
I think it is silly that he is tagged as an “Insider”
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 24, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe
they’re waiting for Byrnes’ contract to end to do that.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
IF and when Gary leaves, they should just put Krueger either there or on sportsphone
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I’m glad they got him to come back, and I’d be happy enough with either of those things. If anything Krueger is a little too sports-heavy and in the Bay Area I don’t think there’s enough stuff and interest for 24-hour sports blather. But certainly more than Gary’s solo show was.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed, and look, i definitely liked how Gary wasn’t JUST sports, but it got a little old, and it became way too much about nonsports and it became like E! on radio. Definitely like Krueger because he at least says things that can be debated
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
And I don’t think Krueger just makes up dumb shite just to start arguments. He’s fine, and he really used to be good in sportsphone.
I always find radio hosts up here talking about Hollywood and NYC stuff pretty silly. Sure Gary, tell us what J-Lo had for dinner last night. Like you know.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea, and that’s what you want for a sports talk host, someone who can talk and really dish out some decent points and start conversations and debates.
And you’re right, that’s something we don’t need, someone talking about Hollywood
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
This would be the most Giants thing ever. It’s not that they don’t want to give playing time to call-ups. They just don’t want to give playing time to good call-ups.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I don’t have a problem with a Huff- Pill platoon next year, with Belt in LF. You all know Huff’s 11 million is going to play, and with the year he had he doesn’t deserve to be handed the everyday job.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
The problem is that Huff is much better than Pill and a platoon would hurt the team.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Yeah, not sure platooning those two makes much sense
Aren’t Huff’s lefty/right splits fairly close for his career? Just not sure that Pill is going to hit lefties better long-term than Huff, so why have a platoon?
Huff’s a career .274/.328/.424 hitter against lefties — very poor for a first baseman — and he’s obviously on the downhill side of his career, so I’d project him for less than that next year. Not sure whether Pill can match that line even lefties, but he’s a better fielder than Huff, so you’d probably come out ahead with a platoon.
No one ever comes out ahead with platoons.
It is impossible for both parts, and very difficult for even one part, to get the minimum amount of play time needed for him to be able to perform at his best level.
I also am unclear how one can say that a man who is one season away from his second-best-ever year (nearly his best) is “obviously on the downhill side of his career”. Age 35, which Huff will be next year, is just about the margin of when a man’s current ability is well represented by his career stats (at 35, they are—on average, of course—about equal).
Huff’s career stats are not wonderful, but neither are they terrible. If we imagined them as the stats of a corner outfielder, they’d be satisfactory. So think of him as the 2012 right fielder and Belt as the 2012 first baseman and the offense numbers look about right (if—a very huge if—Belt is everything most people here take it as axiomatic that he is). Then just interchange them for improved net defense.
And it still amazes that anyone actually mistakes Pill for a potential major-league player: he has a middle infielder’s bat and a first baseman’s glove, and that does not play.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Your continued defense of Huff is stunning
Now we have to imagine him in a different position? Please.
And calling people’s defense of Belt axiomatic is completely unfair. People’s main anger with the Belt situation is that he was not given the opportunity a top prospect should be given. He was jerked around and that is irrefutable.
I think he’s going to be great as do many baseball people who are smarter than you or I. Could he be a flop? Absolutely. I just don’t think he will be.
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Dear me.
Belt has two seasons of professional ball. One was great and one wasn’t. I think it likely that he will be quite a success, and that his being jerked around badly this year had a lot to do with his season. But I would scarcely say that any tomfool can see that he is HoF-bound; that is going a bit far.
We don’t “have to” imagine anything; that is just a simple way of thinking about how batting ability vs position played can be scattered around a team.
Since I have no idea how smart you are or aren’t, I can’t say what baseball people smarter than you think about Belt. As I said, I think he is a good bet but not a sure thing. I also don’t know how many baseball people are smarter than I am, but I do have some realistic experience by which to judge, if you haven’t ever read my sig line.
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Oh come on.
But I would scarcely say that any tomfool can see that he is HoF-bound; that is going a bit far.
That’s a strawman. No one here is saying that he’s that good.
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OK, pick your level.
I think it safe to say that the Beltians all feel he is at least star quality, and that many would choose “superstar” if given the option.
I do not deny either view; they assuredly are possible. I just do not regard them as ineluctable certainties.
Has there been a poll lately on Belt’s likely long-term success level? (Hall of Fame; non-HoF superstar; star; above average; average; below average; fail as a major-leaguer.) That might be interesting, but I’m too lazy to work it up.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
No one ever comes out ahead with platoons.
Well that just isn’t true. There are lots of players who are better off being platooned.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
That is not obvious.
If you look at the stats of a player who is playing fairly regularly and you see a platoon differential that seems to significantly favor one side over the other, it seems obvious that only playing him on his good side will boost his results. But it isn’t that simple, because the RHB in a platoon is probably not going to play much: the ratio of BFP for RHP to LHP is almost exactly 3:1. When a man plays—versus any handedness of pitching—less than half time, he generally loses effectiveness, and seriously. Old baseball saying:
Miss a day and you notice it. Miss two days and your teammates notice it. Miss three days and the fans notice it.Meanwhile, even the LHB partner is playing less than full time; possibly not enough less to really hurt him, but very possibly enough that the dropoff is close to the “gain” from dropping his vs-LHP numbers.
Add the loss by one to the minor-if-any gain on the other, and the net effect for the team is not good, plus you are requiring two men for one position in a day and age when maximum flexibility of function is important.
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Do you think they're in love with Pill?
they didn’t seem to be in a rush to being him up
The thong is, it happened.
I really don't think they are
like you said, they waited a long time to bring him up and even now, he’s playing very sparingly against anything but LHP.
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Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuck....
Well I can’t wait for next season.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
If we have to watch Bochy platoon, double-switch, and otherwise Bork us out of the playoffs, a-fucking-gain...
…I’d just as soon watch the archived 2010 season day by day and avoid the 2012 trainwreck.
Give me hope, FO…I FUCKING DARE YOU!!!.
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Job 1:14-15
That game in CLEVELAND
was so terrible
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
In a way, it’s nice to get a break. Yes, it would have been fun to repeat. But it’s emotionally tiring following this team and we’ve had so little break since April 2010.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That’s how I feel about the players. Now that they can’t use all those “wonder drugs” long seasons seem like they lead to injuries, burn out, and mental lassitude. Give them time to heal, rest, get whatever surgeries are needed and come back stronger next season and “in the best shape of their lives”.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Or at least
With their arms and legs still attached to their bodies
FUCK THIS SHIT
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by son of ggf on Sep 24, 2011 12:07 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Fuck them.
Especially AZ Snakepit.
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Also, god damn.
Really, that was a triple? I don’t see how the hell that gets past a competent right fielder.
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by speckops on Sep 24, 2011 12:19 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Look at the bright side
If Jose Guillen was out there it would have been a home run.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
That was really damn pathetic though. His defense in RF has been astonishingly bad, because prior to the trade I was led to believe that he was still a plus RF.
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I watched none of this game, so I don't actually know what you're talking about
But his defense has been disappointing, yeah. I still remember him from 2004 as a real good center fielder. I would be happy to see him in left field for the Giants next year.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
It’s up as Goldschmidt’s two run triple in a highlight. I just feel like a decent RF could have cut that off.
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by speckops on Sep 24, 2011 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A decent RF would have cut that off.
But remember Beltran is the guy who said playing right field was no problem for him. It isn’t. It’s a problem for the rest of the team.
by mrs. owlcroft on Sep 24, 2011 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I'm glad I missed it
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Knee surgeries, person. And age.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
I will deal with this loss the only way I know how
Wait, fuck, there’s no booze in my house.
I will deal with this loss the only other way I know how – NL Westeros fiction.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 12:20 AM PDT reply actions
I can forgive a guy who spent 85% of the season in the minors for swinging at a wild pitch.
A veteran who’s been on playoff teams for several years running taking it upon himself to bunt with two on and no out, eventually resulting in a picked off runner and a fielder’s choice? FUCK HIM.
Hey, O. Cab, maybe if you’d swung away and hit that solo jack the first time around we’d have taken a one run lead into the bottom of the ninth. Think long and hard about that during this break in your personal playoff streak.
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I don't know what happened there
All I could think was that DeRosa didn’t see it right and thought he’d made contact. Otherwise I have no idea why he’d be trying to get a big jump like that.
It sort of looked like . . .
. . . he was taken wholly by surprise twice: first on the attempt, then on the fail. Each seemed to produce a stutter step, or maybe even half a stutter step, but when you’ve got a bifg lead, it doesn’t take much to make the difference.
I’d place the blame 40% De Rosa and 60% Cabrera, but I’m not adamant about it.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I'd lean heavier on Cabrera,
if only for confusing the hell out of DeRosa, possibly twice.
If there was nobody on base, pulling a surprise bunt without managerial say-so probably wouldn’t be that bad, but this was weird at best, and phenomenally dumb imho.
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Giants still have a chance!!!
We still have a 0.1% chance to make the playoffs according to coolstandings.com.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
So you're telling me there's a chance?
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 24, 2011 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Remember that while a good result does not imply a good process, a bad result likewise does not imply a bad process. Carlos Beltran has been valuable as a Giant; if the rest of the offense hadn’t been so putrid, he could have made the difference.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
sorry
you get Justin Christian and an Eldred to be named later.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions
My point exactly
There are so many awful trades that there’s no need to chastise him for the good ones.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I doubt it.
His bat has been pretty much as advertised; his fielding has been awful, but I doubt it has made that much difference. But that’s also the point about his bat: when he was still a twinkle in Sabean’s eye, I did the numbers and concluded that if he performed up to ability, as he has, he would be, considering the dates, worth maybe half a win. Even one full win (round the fraction off up if you like) wouldn’t have made the difference here, but it cost the team Wheeler.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
The Giants are the first team since the 2006 Cardinals to win the World Series and not make the playoffs the following season.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
TGWTWS
At least we’re not the first team since _______ to lose a World Series and not make the playoffs the following season.
Yeah, it’s a stretch but whatever I’m bummed out.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
WOW. Five whole years. It's like we barely even have half the players we had back then!
Psh. We’re Giants fans, we’re used to going five decades without stuff.
Posey alone was supposed to be worth what, 3-5 wins this year? Kinda woulda made the difference this week.
It is perfectly reasonable to expect the Giants to be contenders next season, especially if we actually make offseason improvements over the team that’s playing this week. I would be completely ok with not making the playoffs this year if it was sandwiched between two World Series rings.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I don’t trust them to make offseason improvements.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
by SFGuy on Sep 24, 2011 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah, that's why I put "if" in front of that statement
instead of “when.”
Even so, how different would next year be if we have a healthy Posey/Sandoval/F. Sanchez, and an injured Huff?
I certainly wouldn’t wish for Aubrey to get hurt, I’m just saying that we already have enough strong pieces to be taken seriously…they just all happened to be the ones with the least playing time this season. Assuming they were back next year, we could do it. Do we need to improve some holes? Sure. But I don’t think making zero changes means we’re competing for draft picks next season.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Posey . . .
. . . going down probably cost the team 3 wins, but that’s less than a full season; over a full season, he is probably 4 wins, but that’s over Whitewert/Stewside.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Well, 3 more wins would be mighty handy right now.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
well
an elimination from contention has never been more deserved. If you can take the best pitching in the universe and assemble an offense bad enough to keep them from the postseason, that’s a real achievement.
But good news: once they add more teams to the playoffs you’ll be able to watch exciting squads like this in October Madness every year!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
ugh...
I hate Bud Selig with a passion. I was delighted to read that he intends to step down after next season.
Ah. I didn’t watch either. If I had been watching I would have thrown up when Orlando Cabrera hit his home run.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Yeah. Dude walked his first batter in the 7th,
and I think he was still carrying a two hit shutout at that point.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Things you missed
Pill swings at wild pitch
Cabrera tries to bunt at pitch, misses, MDR caught stealing
Cabrera hits a HR (!?)
Christian almost makes a nice play, and almost gets a bunt hit
“Triple” fielded by Slowy Rockhands
Aubrey Huff finishes it off
Justin "Almost" Christian
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Tune in tomorrow when you can see Christian almost do stuff!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope to almost forget this advice!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty disappointed
That Huff didn’t end the game by grounding out to second. It just would have been so poetic.
Slowy Rockhands
BIG MCLARGEHUGE
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by troymccluresf on Sep 24, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
So......ummmm
1.Kennedy
2.Hudson
3.Bauer
4.Parker
5.Skaggs
I would expect that by the All-Star Break of 2012 and already fear it for 2013 and forward. A lot of things can happen (Foppert, Ainsworth, Williams), but the potential of their future starting rotation is a little scary.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 24, 2011 8:27 AM PDT reply actions
Who Watched?
wanted to know which Giants watched AZ celebrate. Baggs had a partial answer: Burrell, Cain, Bumgarner and Vogelsong. Our pitchers are such gamers its not even funny.
Did they show the Gints bench? Next years team gets the natural leaders back with Posey and Freddy – but we need somebody with fire in their belly. This team was way too passive. I want to know who will remember this and come back hard next year. Not confident there were any position players outside Pablo who will.
MLB Playoff Rooting Possibilities....
Brewers – Nyjer Morgan is an asshat not really a fan of Fielder’s antics either.
Braves – the chop really? Unpack that
Diamondbacks – I keep waiting for the collapse, I just don’t think they are that good. and if the Giants hadn’t been that bad [HOW THE HELL DO YOU LOSE TO THE ASTROS???] they wouldn’t have won the division
Phillies – the team of my early childhood whose grandiose sense of entitlement amongst the fanbase makes me want to poke all their eyes out
Red Sox – yeah, they’re the Red Sox the AL Phillies
Yankees – haven’t rooted for the Yankees since Chris Chambliss
So I guess it’s either the Tigers or the Rangers? Ugh
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BrewCrew!
Beggars can’t be choosers. I like Braun and Weeks and I think their pitching is underrated a bit. The braves pitching is so tow up it’ll take a miracle, the D-bags aren’t that good so its up to the BrewCrew to take down Evil Empire South.
Rangers in the AL. Hamilton, CJ Wilson (just for his lawyerball comment alone) and spazzy Ian Kinsler are all I gots. Tigers are a good 2nd choice though.
Yeah, I don't like the Brewers
Haven’t we been having issues with them for a couple of seasons? Seems like they have their fair share of jackasses. Will not root for them.
I can get on board with the DBacks and Braves, I suppose. And I have no real dislike for the Phils.
The AL can suck it.
Tigers definitely in AL
NL is a not-very-good choice between Brewers and Snakes. I’ll be rooting for a World Series of Brewers-Tigers for the hilarity of the clank (and also because fuck Fox).
What devilment is this? It’s cloudy outside? Rain is forecast for tomorrow?
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
We just got rid of a sluggish storm system, so it’s the first really beautiful day we’ve had in about a week. I should probably get outside at some point.
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heard it here first
Love the Sacramento area
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I know people who actually do love it. Why, I dunno.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That comment was strictly weather-related. Even summer and winter aren't so bad IMO
The city itself is pretty average. There’s actually quite a bit to like, but certainly plenty of nicer places to live.
I blame you
that’s what you get for complaining about the heat!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
What?????
70’s and 80’s are wunnnnnnnnnderful….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
KOSYGIN! TYKHONOV! RYZKOV! BAADER-MEINHOF! PLO! YASSER ARAFAT!
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
AYAOLLAH’S IN IRAN, RUSSIANS IN AFGHANISTAN
WHEEL OF FORTUNE, SALLY RIDE
HEAVY METAL SUICIDE
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boooooooooooooooooooooo
But you do have to admire his honesty in admitting he just wrote a bunch of shit down and then put it in a song.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
ROCK AND ROLLER COLA WARS
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by Murray, Present on Sep 24, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Heavy metal suicide
So apropos of nothing yesterday I was reading about the Norwegian black metal band Mayhem. In the early 90s their lead singer committed suicide after being repeatedly encouraged to do so by the band’s guitarist. The bass player quit after that and was replaced by a guy who promptly burned down a 500-year-old church. For this and other reasons he began to rival the guitarist in popularity, who became jealous and began threatening to torture the guy to death. So the bass player pre-emptively murdered him.
Said bassist, Varg “Count Grishnackh” Vikernes, staged a jailbreak in 2003 that involved stealing a Volvo (of course) and packing it to the brim with automatic weapons. He preceded it with a letter to his family that began “Mother, I will flee.”
I think Mother I Will Flee would be a pretty good black metal song.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
how did he even have the opportunity to steal a Volvo whilst in prison?
oh, Scandinavia.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
In October 2003, Vikernes failed to return to his low-security prison in Tønsberg, Norway after having been granted a short leave. He was found riding in a stolen Volvo car, which, according to the media, contained an unloaded AG3 automatic rifle, a handgun, numerous large knives, a gas mask, camouflage clothing, a laptop, a compass, a Global Positioning System, various maps and a fake passport (it is thought that Vikernes came to be in possession of this equipment by means of a military barracks). For this thirteen months were added to his sentence, and he was then moved to a maximum-security prison in Trondheim. He was subsequently moved again, this time to Tromsø Prison.3334
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
IMMA UNPACK ALL OF YOUZ!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember the first time I read the history of that band
Crazy shit.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
then what was yesterday? TELLIN ME TO SHUT UP
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
LISTEN HERE MEROPE, DEAL WITH IT
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
TWO ACES, A QUEEN
/turns to look at PiKA
and oh look!!!
A JOKER!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
BUT YOU TOLD ME TO SHUT UP YESTERDAY WHEN I SAID IT WAS GONNA RAIN
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
YYYYYYYYeeeAH… cuz I wanted it to rain here for a bit! I like rain in small doses.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
it rain much at all?
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
not here
maybe tomorrow, says the weather.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
WE"RE IN THIS THING!!!!!
0.1% CHANCE GUYS WE CAN DO THIS
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I apologize for this bitter rant
First off, congrats to Arizona. Gibson is a shoe in for manager of the year.
Second, Fuck you Bruce Bochy and Brian Sabean and everything you stand for. In couple of years when Cain and Lincecum are pitching for the east coast power houses or god forbid the Dodgers, I hope you will finally realize how fucked up your thinking is. You got out-coached by Gibson. He started his rookie first baseman over and over again. He showed faith in his young players. Bochy you ran out several terrible veterans for some reason I still can not figure out. You started Rowand, Tejada, Cabrera, Whiteside and Huff when there were better options on the bench. Several of those games were winnable due to our awesome pitching and we lost them because they played. They either fucked up at the plate or on defense. We could have easily had and extra 5 to 10 more wins if not for those terrible veterans. Sabean, you gave up Zack Wheeler and Neal for nothing. Beltran will never play here again. He was a rental that you gave up a top pitching prospect for. His agent will use fake interest in the Giants to jack up the price for Philly, Boston or the Yankees.
In 1969 the New York Mets had an amazing run all the way to the World Series, winning it. Then, they did nothing, until another amazing run in 1986. Since 86 they have had a couple of post season appearance with a World Series appearance. What I’m trying to say is we have a chance to start a dynasty and I fear, with the organizational philosophy from the top down that we are going to end up like the Mets, or the White Sox, successful every 10 or 15 years.
“WOW BOCHY DID AN AWESOME JOB STAYING IN THIS THING CONSIDERING ALL THE INJURIES AND SABEAN TRIED HARD BY GETTING BELTRAN AND CABRERA”.
When KNBR, CSNBA and the newspapers try to sell you this please don’t buy it.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
well, they did play a 7-gamer in the ’73 world series
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
won 82 games that year and made it to the WS lol
also Willie Mays last ML game…game one Vs. Oakland
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
So in summation
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Sep 24, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
WE ARE 2017 WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Sep 24, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
He has a sore hand?
Eli Whiteside, who has been close to an automatic out at the plate, seemed a sure bet to be lifted for a pinch hitter. But Chris Stewart couldn’t take batting practice and wasn’t available because his sore hand flared up.
PHANTOM INJURY!!!
Why is Whitey?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
The Giants were “worried” about not having another catcher.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Actually, the idiotic excuse he gave the press last night
Is that Cain was throwing a shutout and he didn’t want to mess with the chemistry.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
because it's so damn important
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
LOL YOUR FOOTBALL TEAM!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Like last year... it was a miracle season
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
meant to say... last year was too awesome, this season i dont expect much, new coach
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I haven’t watched a Giants game in about two weeks, and I feel like I’m enjoying the season more for it.
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
Not watching Orlando Cabrera play has that effect.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Incidentally
Orlando Cabrera starting at short any time in the next five days should trigger an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Great writeup Grant. My horribly disfigured genitals thank you for giving them a voice.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:26 AM PDT reply actions
Oh goody, second hand pot smoke for breakfast.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
GATEWAY BREAKFAST
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Sep 24, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Im just going to enjoy the last few games for what they are before I have to freak out during the offseason waiting for the decision
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Sep 24, 2011 9:39 AM PDT reply actions
And hopefully the players have some fun, too.
It has been disheartening to see the struggling faces and body language in the dugout. (BTW, the 8 games streak was a nice break from that)
Going to the game on Tuesday
I guess I can finally enjoy a game without worrying about the other teams. And also: IT’S TONY BENNETT NIGHT!!! IDBFAKSHDFKJASHDJKFHASKDFHJKASHDF.
The picture looks like Marvin Benard AND AJ
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 24, 2011 9:44 AM PDT reply actions
Giants joint lead the majors in CS
Also the worst team in baseball at hitting sliders by quite a long way.
Sundrendy!
that lead in CS really pisses me off
because like half of them were due to over-aggressive baserunning that got us out of innings.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
lolFord
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
and after every single one
Bochy was like “I like it, I’d rather be aggressive”
well look how THAT turned out. if your “aggressiveness” leads to leading the league in CS despite not having very many SB, then YOU FUCKED UP.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Also all of those stupid hit and runs…. ugh
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 24, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
There is also the amazing fact . . .
. . . that his players frequently sacrifice bunt on their own. A manager who lets that go on (and even semi-complains about it afterward) past the very first occurrence fits Kurt Vonnegut’s famous remark: “I could carve a better man out of a banana.”
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Probably the slowest overall team in the majors too
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Small ball is small ball.
It is based on the amazing theory that if you have a weak offense, you should use tactics that further reduce your chances of scoring.
Incidentally, according to baseball-reference.com, it is not SF in the lead (or a tie), but Arizona; SF is, however, next to last in success rate, and tied for second in CS—you could look it up.
More precisely, SF’a success rate is 63%, wile the league average is 72%. What the break-even point is exactly is a matter of debate, but even at rates well above it, one adds very little if anything to run scoring with it, and SF is well below any estimated break-even point.
Bochy (in fairness, like many) does not grasp that a strategy is a strategy, not a religion.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Wow
That’s bad. It’s not like they’re close to the top in SB.
Good morning
Now that the inevitable has finally happened, I’m just going to try and enjoy the last five games of the season before the cruel, cold winter of rosterbation sets in.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Hey now,
There’s still the wildcard!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Yeah, that's true
I’d love to watch them throw Eric Surkamp into a one-game playoff in Atlanta on Thursday night for a wild card spot. That would be even funnier than Community and Parks and Rec.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
I am too..
But Bork can still Bork next season…
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 24, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Id rather overpay Jimmy Rollins than overpay Carlos Beltran
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
not me
if rollins breaks down defensively then were do we put him? Or do we want yet another butcher at short?
I’d rather have a shitty defensive outfielder who is an amazing hitter then a shitty defensive shortstop who’s game relies too much on his speed and as a pure hitter is not in beltran’s class
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Sep 24, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Beltran's injury history is WAY worse than Rollins
Even if his defense declines he would still be adequate. It is much harder to find a decent SS these days than a good corner OF.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Alex gonzalez is a free agent
I would rather do him and beltran than rollins and mid level outfielder fa/cody ross
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Sep 24, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you know how horrid Alex Gonzalez has been this year?
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
LETS GOOOOOOOO REDHAWKS!!!!!!
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
YEAH
Oklahoma City baseball FTW!!!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
HEY MAN, MIAMI OHIO, MAC CHAMPIONS THIS YEAR!!!
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
well it sure looks like miami came to play today.... jesus
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Lou Holtz... moron
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Hey... go suck it
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Lets talk breakfast, I know merope is having pot smoke for brekky. I think im going out this morning. Writing my PACT has taken away my ability to do anything else
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Sep 24, 2011 10:33 AM PDT reply actions
Breakfast burritos!
/waiting like 30 more minutes so i can eat lunch
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
This is scaring me.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
closest gif i could find for
talking breakfast
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Sep 24, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, you're back!
So, you’re all in one piece still?
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Sep 24, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
I just had some pretty bad whiplash and some shoulder injuries.
I documented the whole accident in a fanpost to let people know I was ok
Dont worry murray, next week you and I will bringing it in the McG chronicles
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Sep 24, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
glad you're ok though
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
My God I’m hallucinating! I see little balls of sunshine in a bag! Does this mean something?
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 24, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
OH GOD PACT
I AM SO SORRY
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
watermelon, pecans, and 2nd hand smoke
Yummmmmmmmmmie….
I’m thinking of putting air in the bike tires and seeing if they are suffering from lack of use flat or there’s a hole in the tubes somewhere flat.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
So this is my brain
on giants offense
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Sep 24, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
OT 3-dot lounge
Kerry Collins now has moar ribeyes than Joe Montana. Discuss…
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
The most frustrating thing about the season, to me, was not the injuries. It was the fact that the caveman with the massive head and goatee who decides who plays, refused to play the best talent that we had available.
Below are four things that can happen, when you play your best talent regardless of the level of experience of that talent.
As many people in this thread have mentioned, the irony of Goldschmidt/Belt is so appropriate.
I hope you learned your lesson you silly, stupid, stubborn man.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Sep 24, 2011 10:39 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
People often look for "turning points" in a team's season
I felt like that Goldschmidt home run off of Lincecum was it for the Giants/D-Backs.
The Giants finally won the World Series. Now what?
Rooting interests
1. Brewers. I don’t mind that Nyjer is a douche.
2. Tigers. Detroit needs something besides that Eminem commercial and the Robocop statue.
3. Rangers. Thanks for last year.
4. D-backs. Tipping my cap so hard.
5. Yankees. Eh, they have Nick Swisher and Eric Chavez, I like those guys.
6. Red Sox. Here on down, it’s a battle of who I hate less.
7. Braves
8. Phillies
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Sep 24, 2011 10:51 AM PDT reply actions
More than anything, now that the Giants are (almost certainly) not going to be part of these playoffs, I’m rooting for the Phillies to lose in either the NLDS or NLCS, just to bludgeon all their fans who were all “It was a fluke the Giants beat us last year!”
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
I don't hate the Phillies by any stretch of the imagination
but for all the articles about the Giants’ fanbase becoming Red Sox Nation West, I think another WS for the Phillies will have that effect.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
The baseball gods have saved us from becoming what we hate.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 24, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the Cerveceros, but it’s hard to root for a team with a guy named after birdseed.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn!
That is all.
"I have talent that's there, but I just have the mentality right now that I just want to be the greatest. And I don't think that any other player has that right now." -DeMarcus Cousins
by Noble_Bloodlines on Sep 24, 2011 10:56 AM PDT reply actions
OT
I just went back to the Thursday night threads and read El Person’s take on the season premiere of Community. Are we sure El Person is a high school senior and not actually a professor of literary criticism? I never wrote that cogently when I was 18. You kids get off of my lawn.
That said, I enjoyed the episode.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
El Person will undoubtedly join you in that shout
but he’s busy getting dressed for dinner- Early Bird Special! He’s 17 going on 55.
I enjoy the bright HS students that post here, if I’m occasionally embarrassed when I find that out. I remember being amazed at some of the stuff dregarx used to hold forth when he was the kid on the scene.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Reminds me of when a 16- or 17-year old WalrusMan would discuss all the 60s and 70s rock albums that he owned and listened to.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
then
they all grow up and go to college and get lives and stuff. Jerks. Excuse me I need to pour myself some more Milk of Magnesia.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I MISS COLLEGE!!!! :(
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One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
These MCC “kids” are my main hope for the persistence of literacy as anything but an arcane hobby like fly-tying.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
If You Want Blood
is my favorite Acca Dacca song.
It’s nearly philosophical!
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Sep 24, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions
I know I'm late to the party, but:
fucking shit fuck. At least it wasn’t the Rockies/Dodgers/Padres.
Get a damn shortstop and a middle of the order hitter.
And don’t be cheap shits, Giants.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
But rainy day fund! (does not notice it’s pouring)
OH THEY MEAN FOR WHEN THERE ARENT AS MANY PEOPLE COMING IN
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 24, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
In a word, no
If we’d gone after Beltran, we would have been unable to re-sign Cabrera, get a long-term deal with Pill done, and bring in Podsednik and trade for Carlos Lee, obviously, unable to field a team.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 24, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did anyone else catch this?
Negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement for major league baseball are moving at a fast pace and one issue the sides have all but agreed upon is adding two wild-card teams and holding one-game playoffs in each league to determine which of the wild cards advances, The Post has learned. One person involved in the talks described that scenario as a done deal and another hedged a little by saying it is likely to play out that way, but nothing will be finalized until an entire CBA is inked.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/postseason_pitch_SSiOAnu0pNi3chGX94ZGaM
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
interesting... so a one game playoff for the 2 wild card teams?
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
If they finalize the CBA tonight
then we’re still in this thing!
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Eh
I don’t really mind it that much.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
i think it's pretty dumb
Last year the Yankees won the Wild Card by 6 games.
Does it really make sense that, after winning it in pretty much a walk, they’d have to play a one game playoff (where anything can happen) against the Red Sox?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Sure
I start from the position that you don’t owe the Wild Card winners anything, so making life more random or unfair to them isn’t a concern for me.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It seems like you're just opening it up for a clearly inferior team to make the playoffs
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I don't think
the 6 team divisions were so bad, but anything less invites crapulence to the postseason.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
If there has to be a Wild Card, then I’d much prefer it to be the team that actually won more games in the regular season (especially if it’s a spread of 95 to 87 or whatever), than opening it up to a mediocre team.
I would much prefer they just go to four divisions, but that will probably never happen
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Though honestly with all this said
I won’t deny that I’d really enjoy it if it was a scenario with a 95 win Red Sox team and a, let’s say, 88 win Twins team or something and the Twins won.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
in this line
anything that could potentially cause Red Sox & Yankees fans unhappiness gets at least a long consideration from me.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
October Madness!
Every team gets in and baseball goes to a NCAA-style single elimination tournament!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
honestly, that would be pretty epic
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
sweeeeeet
After battling Blaze! And Nitro! And Lazer!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Instead . . .
. . . why not keep the owners really happy? Go to 30 one-team divisions! Every team a division winner! Every team in post-season! And, best of all, a 181-game post-season!
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
And one even more inferior than one of the other inferior teams already making the playoffs.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
The wild card usually has a better record than the weakest divisional winner.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
True
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Wasn't the Wild Card added in part because of the 1993 Giants
winning 103 games and missing the playoffs?
Obviously it would be different now because of the different divisions (the division winners probably would be the Giants, the Braves and the Cardinals), but just for argument’s sake… the next best team in the NL that year was the Expos, who finished 9 games behind those 103 win Giants.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Correct
It was announced during the summer of ’93, IIRC. I remember thinking we were probably about to witness the Last Great Pennant Race™.
The Giants were also a year too early when after the ’97 season (again IIRC), the LDS home/away format was changed from 2-3 to a 2-2-1 after the Giants (the #1 seed) were swept in the first two games in FLA.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
Similar in 2009
Red Sox won the Wild Card by EIGHT games. But they’d have to play a one-game playoff against the 87 win Rangers?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
this is why
they don’t need more wild card teams. Wild card teams suck, even if sometimes a division champion sucks more.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
how dare you
more playoffs mean more excitement.
Also, if the Orioles or Rays win a division title this ensures the Yankees and Red Nex still make the playoffs, which is the most important thing.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
If they don’t like it, they should win the division. They finished one game out, but the division race was totally boring because it didn’t matter. If the 2nd-place team has to go to a one-game playoff against the Red Sox, suddenly winning the division matters.
It’s dumb. And the first time an 87 win team beats a 95 win team in the one game playoff and then goes on to win the World Series, we’ll be hearing all over again about how unfair THAT is and they’ll want to change it again.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
It’s not fair to the 85 win teams! Why CAN’T a sub-.500 team win in the postseason!?!!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
let's just go to the NBA playoff model
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
EVERYBODY INTO THE POOL!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
LOL EDUCATORS
YOU KEEP TELLING US EVERYBODY’S A WINNER AND NOW YOU’RE MAD IF WE MAKE BASEBALL THAT WAY
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Now that is pretty pathetic with the eastern conference
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Mediocrity deserves representation!
Even if they were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre teams and players and managers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they, and a little chance? We can’t have all winners."
—not Roman Hruska
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
In 2006, an 83-win team beat an 88-win team, a 97-win team, and a 95-win team to win it all. The world kept turning.
That 83 win team had to beat those teams 3, 4 and 4 times. Not once.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
My issue is with the randomness of a 1 game playoff between two teams if one team clearly outplayed the other in the regular season.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
You're absolutely right
and it applies even more to a two division structure than Bud’s Octoberfest.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Agree
Plus it’ll just feel like a “quasi” playoff game, more March Madness than playoff series. And what happens if two teams finished tied for the division lead? Do they have a one-game playoff to determine who’s the division champ and who’s the wild-card, or do they just use tiebreakers and then the loser of the tie-breaker goes into the one-game WC playoff?
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Yeah, it’ll START as one game… and then something will happen, there’ll be a blown call or a satellite crashing into the stadium, or somebody’s bio-rhythms will be off …and then it will be a best of 3.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I'm good with it
A one game playoff would be a nice attention grabber before the playoffs start every year. Think how exciting one game playoffs are for division titles.
Also, it will prevent situations where teams don’t give a shit about winning the division because they have the Wild Card locked up.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
The real issue shouldn't be about an extra wild card
But that a lockout/strike is unlikely in baseball like we saw in the NFL and NBA (and may see in the NHL after this upcoming season).
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I wonder what R.A. Dickey's up to right now
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Victorino busts up the no-hitter in the seventh. Fuck you, Rectum Face!
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
More like RA Cainey
About to lose 1-0 for the second time in a row.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
HAHAHAHAHA
Game tied. I dunno what the fuck a Valentino Pascucci is, but it just hit a dinger off Hamels.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
OMG so racis
You and natto better like extra spit on your Amicis pizzas.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
god damnit
someone unpacked that statement and now it’s just all over my floor.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 24, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
UNPACK UNPACK UNPACK
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Victorino’s helmet really pisses me off…anyone else feel that way
Angel Villalona 1, DR police 0
by the nenth inning on Sep 24, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Can't stop thinking about Victorino's helmet
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
I loved his helmet, though, when Mota was thoughtfully removing it from his useless-piece-of-shit-head during that delicious bench-clearing brawl back in early August.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
What about P happy’s chinstrap?
Angel Villalona 1, DR police 0
by the nenth inning on Sep 24, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
She’s only 31 years old…
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
isn't that old?
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Nah. That’s a woman’s prime.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Ha, ok, good to know
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Amen, brother
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
QUIET YOU.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
by Merope on Sep 24, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
NOOOOO!!!!
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
/pika trying to get attention
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Susanna Hoffs
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Sep 24, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
the 2008 Cubs won 97 games
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
They were really good
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Mark DeRosa hit .285/.376/.481 for the 2008 Cubs
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
They were
how far they have fallen since then.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Lou was managing the team at that point
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Valentino Pascucci!
HameLOLs
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
I always loved signing him in OOTP. Even if he wasn’t the 5 star guy my scout always claimed he was.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
had a surprise dinner-date last night, missed the "The End of Days" game
I’m not sad one bit, probably saved my computer & phone from a fate worse than death
with the way this season has gone, I can state with confidence that dinner, drinks (and some smoochin’! ::squeee:: ) is a vast improvement over a night full of tears, disappointment & /RAGE….stupid season, bring on Spring Training 2012!
AT&T Park, Home of the WS Champion SF Giants, and Disneyland-so much MAGIC inside!
No thanks, I need a break.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
well, not right NOW! when it’s supposed to be, in Spring! ;D
/washes hands of this season
AT&T Park, Home of the WS Champion SF Giants, and Disneyland-so much MAGIC inside!
this off season is going to be rosterbacioulicious too.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
LOL, that’s when I go into hibernation from McC, I have nothing of value to add (‘specially since I’m not one for stats) when I’m feeling jittery from withdrawals I wander over to lurk for a bit :)
TBH, I think I’m more sad about the shrinking amount of McC in my life come Sept. 29th than I am knowing the season will really end in Sept. this year.
AT&T Park, Home of the WS Champion SF Giants, and Disneyland-so much MAGIC inside!
It hardly shrinks in the offseason. A trade or FA signing will cause about 8000 comments in an hour, most of them suicidal!
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
LOL
I shoulda been more specific tho, I know McC keeps on ticking in the off season, I just spend less time on it since I don’t have a head for stats & should just stay away from the rosterbating for my own sanity. But I definitely lurk from time to time to see what y’all are freaking out about this time! :)
AT&T Park, Home of the WS Champion SF Giants, and Disneyland-so much MAGIC inside!
Well like I said … keep an eye on the fanpost area. There’s usually some non-rosterbationy type stuff over there. I know I said I’d do the chili cook-off recipe fanpost later on in Oct/Nov. jcb9 used to do some “what are you reading?” posts and somebody usually does a music thing – or two.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
cool, thanks :) I like have things to look forward to
/falls into weepy sobs that there’s no Giants baseball to look forward to
well, and this year I have moving to deal with in Oct. so that will be a good distraction
AT&T Park, Home of the WS Champion SF Giants, and Disneyland-so much MAGIC inside!
ha ha
wait, you were serious, weren’t you…
AT&T Park, Home of the WS Champion SF Giants, and Disneyland-so much MAGIC inside!
Mets bring in Miguel Batista
Looking at all the kids today.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
imma go see moneyball now
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
spoiler alert
they don’t win a playoff series.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 24, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Gonna take my son Friday, while my wife is stuck taking my daughter to see Chris Brown. I’ve instructed them not to make him angry!
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Yea if he gets angry they might get the Rihanna special
Angel Villalona 1, DR police 0
by the nenth inning on Sep 24, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
/that’sthejoke.jpg
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 24, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
i might go see it tomorrow
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yeah, me too. The only book I didn’t have that problem with was Hitchhikers. Where the radio series was different from the books which were different from the tv series which in no way resembled the movie. In that case though it was kind of like an artist fleshing out his vision in different media. Well, except for the movie… he was kinda not around to see that through.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Please let us know if Brad Pitt’s bulge is realistic-looking enough.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
I really enjoyed it.
Jonah Hill was great. Some of the CGI used to make the stadium look full bugged me way more than it should have, but besides that it was highly enjoyable.
by fishmicmuffin on Sep 24, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
it wuz good.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Marmol implosion imminent.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
He should rub fruit preserves on the ball before he throws it. Might give him more movement on his pitches.
If it’s successful, he could call it “Marmol-ade”
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
by rotorueter on Sep 24, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's gotta be the highest leverage index possible. Bases loaded, 2 out, down by one run, 3-2 count?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
LOLOLOL CUBS
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
This may be fringe thinking, but I’m beginning to believe they don’t have a shot at the postseason this year.
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Maybe just maybe… I would also postulate that the Astros will not make it either.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 24, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
0.1% Chance..... IN THIS THING!
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 24, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Not on TV in DC area… :(
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 24, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Mountaineers on, so i'm pumped up about that
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
HAW HAW HAW
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I am only hoping for Wilson to finally shave his beard off once the Giants are completely eliminated.
I rhyme with freak.
He’s a good-looking guy without the beard.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 24, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A
Maybe it’s the wine, but I have no animosity against the D’backs and if they were to go all the way I would be pleased for this one reason: Imagine the gnashing of teeth, the shrieking, the tearing of clothing, the sackcloth and ashes that would ensue in the eastern parts of this nation if ANOTHER “has no chance in hell” NL West team won the title.
I would like to see that very much.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
Wow, that’s a disturbing post. But many of the commenters disavow it, so I don’t think I’ll hold it against the team that there’s a horrible person writing front-page posts for their SBN blog.
That post is horrible...
and I say that as an Arizona fan. The worst part is that he still refuses to admit that it is horrible, and tries to rationalize it and laugh it off. It’s gross. Of course, at other places I post, I’ve seen fans of the Giants saying similarly nasty things about the Drew injury. I don’t hold that against the fan base or the team, though, because it’s just a couple fucking idiots talking out of their asses.
by azshadowwalker on Sep 24, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The contents of bochy's head says HI!
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 24, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
So what happens tonight?
On the one hand, it’s Surkamp vs. Kennedy in Phoenix. On the other, I imagine Kennedy just tuning up for the playoffs, Surkamp pitching for a job next season, and maybe a bunch of hungover Diamondbacks.
honestly
that’s kind of cute.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Sure. For a team that has pool in their stadium
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 24, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I always promised I'd jump into McCovey Cove when the Giants won the WS
but they clinched away and that water looks kinda weird. plus, stingrays.
I rhyme with freak.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that thought that was sort of amusing.
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 24, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
mlb.com video: How They Got There: D-Backs
“MLB.com looks at the Arizona Diamondbacks 2011 season, leading up to winning the National League West title”
http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19567993&topic_id=8878726&c_id=ari
Phillies have lost 7 in a row? I know it doesn’t matter, but gosh. Not a good way to head into the postseason.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Bleacher Report: SF Giants: 6 Reasons Why the Giants Must Not Sign Albert Pujols (sorry in advance but it's for the for the lulz)
If you take 2011 at face value, it’s still a wonderful season. Just like how if you take Natalie Portman today, she’s still a beautiful woman (individual taste may vary)—but like Natalie Portman, Pujols ain’t what he was four years ago.
The Giants have Aubrey Huff next season. For some reason, people actually want Brandon Belt to play (although that’s a different story), which probably has to do with their "Baby Giraffe" hats.
Mark my words: If the Giants sign Albert Pujols to a 10-year deal, then every single reporter on Bleacher Report and the sports-writing universe will be harping on Sabean’s (new) folly.
do people actually get paid to write over there?
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Schrute bucks
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Bleacher Report....
Does not read any further.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
SFGiants San Francisco Giants
#SFGiants lineup: Christian cf, Fontenot 2b, Beltran rf, Sandoval 3b, Pill 1b, Belt lf, H Sanchez c, Crawford ss Surkamp p
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions
Brett Pill and Justin Christian are not Major League starters
And Crawford probably isn’t either, but he’s the best we’ve got, especially if Fontenot is playing 2b.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
this is why you're not coaching!!!!!!!!
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
WHY NO CABRERA!?!?!?!?!
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
*DINGER*
"I never stop being amazed by how much people who hate stats because they’re "flawed" quote so much more obviously flawed stats. " -Joe Posnanski
by RichHerreraHomer on Sep 24, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice lineup…. WHY DIDN"T WE DO THIS YESTERDAY!
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Cabrera did have great numbers against Joe Saunders. Though, he tried to bunt and missed like an idiot. Whiteside should have been pinched hit for, even with Cain still in the game.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 24, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
"pinch hit"
The verb “hit” has a preterit and participle identical to the infinitive.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
MOTORIN'
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
SNAKETOBER!
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Tons of DBacks fans arriving early. Actual passion for NL West champs? Nope. It’s Ryan Roberts bobblehead day.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Why the Baggs hate? At least it wasn’t the Dodgers or Rockies who won it.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 24, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
gotta love the tattoos
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Even Marty has turned against Bochy
On KNBR while driving home, he was talking about the follies of leaving Whiteside in and how Bochy never got that he had to put in guys to win.
The follies of Whiteside...
too big a part of the season.
I finally watched the game highlights.
Holy shit. The Giants had no chance of winning that game. It was a gang fight and the Giants were forty year olds fighting teenagers. The Diamondbacks looked amped from the start. I have never seen the Giants play with that much energy before.
I’m so glad I didn’t watch it. If I had somehow been stuck listening to the Diamondbacks feed I would’ve jumped off my balcony.
Couldn’t beat Joe Saunders. Put their faith in Huff & Cabrera & Whiteside. Nothing more to say.
Catchers: 2012
Stew is a revelation to the catching position, he’s like the evolution of Bennito’s snap throw into the full motion: 1.7+ sec throws to 2nd. He is the defensive backup, but he’s not a hitter.
Posey’s agent will likely try to keep him as a C until he signs a big $ deal because his greatest value is there, and he wants to catch. The Giants will have to lock Posey up and move him out, 1B, 2B, 3B. Looking forward to Posey changing postion: an ideal combo would be Hector Sanchez vs RHP and Tommy Joseph vs LHP.
BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER
BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER BUSTER POSEY IS A CATCHER
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
by scout6 on Sep 24, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
THIS IS NOT A TEST
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by TheLetter2 on Sep 24, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Toro, toro!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
trade em for Fielder
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Hector Sanchez is still a kid who needs more time in the minors.
Neither he nor Joseph are as good as Posey.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Agreed
Personally I don’t like trading either of them, but Posey may well not sign a deal until 2016. Both of them will be ready before that.
A lot can happen between now and then
Both of them could flop.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Ranked highly in our system, which is sparse.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
BELT WAS RANKED HIGHLY!!! HE SUCKS IN THE MAJORS THO
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
No they are not
They are prospects. If they ever become major league legit catchers, then you deal with that problem when you get to it.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
They are in the top 10 prospects in our farm system. that’s not a problem, it’s an opportunity that can’t be wasted. At least they got Sanchez up here this year. It’s not going to take him long now. At that point does he take over for Stew, that’s the first issue.
Sanchez has sucked in the majors and he sucked in AAA too
What exactly are you so excited about?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Light Tower power from Joseph tho, suck it
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
They're both intruiging prospects
But neither one of them are good enough to consider moving Posey for. Neither.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
How many clubs?
Have a superstar C and 2 potential solid players in their org? It’s the best asset the Giants have beyond pitching. They are young now, with big futures.
That's cool.
I notice now that you’ve inserted the “potential” in there. Are they not “legit c” now anymore?
Neither one of them is good enough to be worth moving Posey right now. Neither one of them appears to have a ceiling that’s worth moving Posey for.
So don’t move Posey. If one or more of them becomes any good, then deal with that. Maybe keep one as a backup and let him play first base or something every once in a while. Whatever.
But right now, it doesn’t matter, because Posey is the catcher.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 24, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, and . . . ?
“Prospect” and “potential” do not, neither of them, equal “actuality”. If and when for either young man becomes an actual highly talented major-league catcher, that is the time to consider and plan. Till then, it’s smoke.
Why is that so hard to grasp?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Try the 1st question
The first real question is whether Stewart becomes the backup for 2012. No one person said a damn thing about that, to me that’s the biggest issue for 2012.
And what, pray tell, . . .
. . . does that have to do with two guys in the minors who are not yet ready, if they ever will be, to catch in the majors? Wishin’ don’t make nothin’ so. If they stubbornly refuse to assign Panda any catching duties, then they’ll have to burn a roster spot and either some cash or some trading chips acquiring a player who will play once or twice a week.
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Hector Sanchez is here...
And he well could be the backup next year. In a situation where instead playing Posey every game or sitting him, there’s the possibility of playing him at 1B for a game once in awhile. So if Sanchez shows some offense there’s a lot of value over Stew who probably never will show much.
Hector Sanchez . . .
. . . is, by all accounts I’ve seen or heard, not yet ready for the majors. Opinions seem to differ on how good he will or will not eventually be, but virtually all agree that “eventually” is not today or next week.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Save it
It doesn’t listen.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Gloriously soaring into our hearts.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
You can say that again.
And again and again and . . . .
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
So
Are you saying Buster Posey is in fact, a catcher?
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 24, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Tommy Joseph is 20 years old
People writing the obit on Posey’s catching career without having any knowledge of how his rehab is going is really annoying.
I guarantee Posey is the starting catcher on opening day. And I guarantee Stewart or Sanchez will be his backup
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Believe I said he’s catching until he signs a contract at the least. He can hold out until 2016 if he wants.
How could I misunderstand clear sentences like this?
Posey’s agent will likely try to keep him as a C until he signs a big $ deal because his greatest value is there, and he wants to catch. The Giants will have to lock Posey up and move him out, 1B, 2B, 3B
And if you think Posey’s agent has any sway right now you’re crazy. The Giants could tell Posey to pitch for the next 4 years if they’re so inclined
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
i have no idea what this is even about anymore
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
posey as a bench coach then
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Slash's manager
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Slash's manager's GM
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Do you think baseball players want $?
Posey is in control and he wants to catch, HE CAN HOLD OUT UNTIL 2016. They can tell him to do what they want, but he can tell them he won’t sign a deal.
Tell them he won’t sign a deal? He’s under team control.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Buster to the Yankees
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
I doubt that’d be a huge factor either way.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
No, I doubt that if they asked him to move to 2B or somewhere else that he would hold that against them when he hit free agency.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Where have you heard or read any of this?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Posey’s said he wants to catch, all the beat writers have reported that. The rest comes from former baseball players speculating that Posey will hold onto the position that makes him the most valuable until he signs a contract.
And the Giants want him to catch.
And former baseball player speculation really means shit.
I have totally lost what this conversation was even about, earlier you said he should be moved to another position, now it’s he should stay a catcher so he doesn’t get pissed about it in 5 years?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Ahem
The Giants will have to lock Posey up and move him out, 1B, 2B, 3B. Looking forward to Posey changing postion: an ideal combo would be Hector Sanchez vs RHP and Tommy Joseph vs LHP.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
The Giants will have to lock Posey up and move him out, 1B, 2B, 3B. Looking forward to Posey changing postion: an ideal combo would be Hector Sanchez vs RHP and Tommy Joseph vs LHP.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
You get the idea.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
You seem to have this nice habit of asserting things without any proof. Do you have any in this case?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
He's going to catch because the Giants and Posey want to catch
His agent has no influence on the situation. And I have no idea what you mean by holdout. This isn’t the NFL.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Who gives a shit?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
this is what i've been saying, who cares
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Would Buster at 2b even work?
MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!
by Anonymous1337 on Sep 24, 2011 3:28 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
1b Belt
2b Buster
3b Pablo
SS Reyes
MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!
by Anonymous1337 on Sep 24, 2011 3:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Buster in Left Center
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Bochy also reiterated he had no regrets over lineups he put out there. Though fans love Belt, Bochy hoped Huff would get hot in Sept.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
What a fucking moron
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
let's just wait until there are 0 games left, he'll come around
Proud adoptive father of the fastest guy in the Giants system, Jarrett Parker
One of the best moments in Giants history, 11/1/2010
Well
Huff did start the month out getting on base, but like every other flicker of life this season, it quickly died out.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 24, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Good to know Bochy learned nothing the past couple of months
Now I’m starting to have doubts about 2012…
No, no.
There are no doubts at all as long as Bochy (and Sabean) remains in place.
The only hope is that the racehorse is fast enough that even with a substantial handicap load of sandbags, it can still finish first.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Isn't this the manager's fault?
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Bochy admitted Giants put too much pressure on themselves when things went south, sometimes played not to lose.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Bochy said he tried to balance it out by tossing out lineups he thought would play to lose.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
by scout6 on Sep 24, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
One more thing about last night’s debacle. How do you get ELEVEN hits, one of which was a HR and still only manage one run?
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
by rxmeister on Sep 24, 2011 3:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
You play for the giants.
Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
One hit per inning, only one of which is a home run.
MATH!!!
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Saunders and the Dbacks bullpen knows how to win
They purposefully spread those hits around
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
They refuse to take walks
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 24, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
To quote Grant
That’s about right. With no one on, the Giants are a little worse than the rest of the league. Not much, but a little. Pretty close to average. But when runners get in scoring position, everyone’s all “OH GOD WHAT IS THIS STICK OF WOOD MAYBE IT’S EDIBLE OH GOD THERE ARE SPLINTERS IN MY TONGUE.”
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 24, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It is very, very difficult.
The rule of thumb is one run for every three men reaching base.
Just for fun . . . NL 2011:
H + BB + HBP = 30111
R = 10339
30111 / 3 = 10037 (97% accuracy)
That’s actually better than expected, but for a rough-and-ready thumb rule, it works OK. So the Giants ought normally to have scored, um, carry the seven, um . . . somewhat more than one run, yes.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
What I would like to see the Giants do to close the season:
Play well enough that their projected-from-stats wins at least equal Arizona’s. Right now, from-team-stats wins projections are SF 83, AZ 84 (and, amazingly, LA 87). Just match or pass the Snakes and I’ll be as content as can be absent post-season. That way we can always say “If it weren’t for luck . . . .”
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An interesting look:
Take all the games missed by Posey, Sanchez, Pablo, Wilson, et al and add up the combined %WAR to see a predictable # of games more they would’ve won without the injuries. Could well be the difference in games.
Oh, I think Posey alone was 3 wins' worth.
I calculated that at the time (compared, of course, to the existing catching). If the team had had just that one loss avoided, they probably would have won it all even if the rest of the division (notably the Dodgers) had actually played up to their abilities.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
From last year it’s true, but his WAR this year according to BBal ref is only 1.5. I struggle with whether to give him last year or this year, sophomore slump may have kicked in for the whole year. But even if you just take the 1 game for Posey, 40 games missed for Sandoval is 1.5, Sanchez is about 1.5 so there’s 4. Wilson is harder to calculate, all the other save ops
WAR . . .
. . . is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. And it sounds as if you don’t realize that WAR is not a rate stat, it’s a count stat, and so depends on how much a man played in a given season.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I get that it takes effect for the whole season, what I’m saying is I’m not sure Posey =‘s what he did last year when he was over 3. And that there’s a lot going into the stat besides the offense that the Giants truly lacked leads me to think giving Posey even 1 game will still probably add a significant # of wins combined with all the other injuries.
lets look at some of the stats.
the giants were better than middle of the pack for runs
scored on the road. Their pitching was good, very good
on the road, but not unreal like at home. Their hitting at
home was the worst in the league by far. Yet their pitching
at home was so good that they were 10 games over 500
at home so far this year. Giants only tossed 11 shutouts.
Down from last year. They often do the little things on
defense and pitching that hurt in close games, and Bochy
has not found a way to manufacture runs for a team that
you know keeps the opposition down most of the time.
Lincecum and Cain have a way of not holding a runner,
walking a guy out of nowhere, sometimes the pitcher
leading off, Lincecum does not hold runners on well and
many a game he has given up a cheap run on a walk,
a stolen base, a sacrifice, or a passed ball or wild pitch,
and a ground out to the right side. Giants can have
runners on second and third an no outs and Keppinger
up who never strikes out, and Keppy will K on 3 pitches,
Beltran will popup, and a diving catch will be made in the
outfield on a gapper hit by Sandoval. Yesterday it
was eleven hits and one run, but there was an extra base
hit, giants got their run on a dinger. For next year, the
basic goals should be to maintain the current pitching
exellence but improve by, walking far less hitters, Holding
runners on base better. Keeping ones concentration, and
going deeper into games with less pitches. For offense they
need to revamp the team, stay healthy, and let Posey Rake.
by bradleybear on Sep 24, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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