Giants/Diamondbacks Series Preview
At the beginning of September, before a three-game series at home, the chatter was that the Giants needed to sweep the Diamondbacks to jump right back in the race. They lost two of three. In retrospect, a sweep would have been pretty keen.
Now here we are again, needing a sweep. This time, though, it's to avoid watching the Diamondbacks jumping around on the field, dog-piling in front of the Giants. It's likely to happen, of course. It's hard to sweep a bad team, much less a first-place team. So the odds are good that there will be a big ol' celebration on the mound at some point, possibly with the camera zooming in on the dark, soulless voids that used to be Matt Williams's eyes. Kirk Gibson will do that stupid startin'-a-chainsaw motion he did after he hit the homer off Eck. And Aaron Hill will kiss Luann DeGroot right in the middle of the field like they were in Fever Pitch. It's going to suck.
The alternative is that the Giants could sweep and get a little eeeeensie bit of hope back. They're good at that. And then we'll all have to a) hope the Giants can sweep the Rockies while b) rooting for the Dodgers at the same time. That sounds like a horrible way to spend a weekend.
There's still the Wild Card, of course. Yep. Totally still have a shot. Four back, six to play. Sounds like a gas.
Suppose the main goal is to not watch the Diamondbacks celebrate, though, and that's something to root for. The Giants did it at home against the Diamondbacks in 2000, and it happened a year after the Diamondbacks won the NL West, so there's some reciprocity there. It would pretty awful to watch the Diamondbacks pour out onto the field with the sound of 27,000 screaming fans behind them, officially letting the Giants know that the magic carpet ride is over.
As you can tell, I don't know how to approach this series preview with anything other than Gumby shoulders. It's going to suck, unless it doesn't, which means we'll get our hopes up again, which means it will just suck later on. I was much more excited to write about Matt Kemp's Triple Crown chances today than I am to write this series preview, that's how little I'm looking forward to this series.
It's still baseball, I suppose. A month from now, we'll miss Giants games. Two months from now, we'll twitch in our sleep and try to teach our cockatoos to whistle "Take Me Out to the Ballgame." In three months, we'll be like the protagonist of Midnight Express at the end of his incarceration -- a babbling mass of scant humanity, completely unintelligible and useless to the rest of society. In four months, we'll refresh MLB Trade Rumors every five seconds, hoping for an update on a minor-league deal to at least one Jeff D'Amico. In five months, Pablo Sandoval will come into camp in the best shape of his life.
Throughout that whole ordeal, we will be willing to pay hundreds of dollars to watch a single meaningless Giants/Diamondbacks game. So can we really just take it for granted right now?
Yes. Yes, we can. You stink, baseball. Take all your stupid mix tapes back. Here's your sweater. I hope you figure out whatever it makes you hate the world, baseball.
/checks Facebook to see if baseball poked me back
Hitter to watch
Pablo Sandoval, dammit.
And that's with missing a month. What a season he's had with the bat and glove. He'll be the hitter to watch next series too, if only because this is the second season out of the last three where he's been the only player worth watching in a wretched lineup. Without him, this season would have been completely abysmal.
Pitcher to watch:
Tim Lincecum could finish 13-14 with an ERA well under 3.00. Let's all watch him not do that, please?
Prediction:
Sighing. Completely organic, unforced sighing. See, I just did it now.
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I always find that “S C A P Y” thing amusing.
SCAPY!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
GITTY, too
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
by SnowLeopard on Sep 23, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL GIANTS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
The question on everyone's minds
Did you have to look up Luann’s last name, or did you already know it?
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Could be.
Was thinking about a post on nicknaming Orlando Cabrera “Puddles.”
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 23, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't even know who that is?
It’s someone famous?
Comic strip character. Her boyfriend/crush is named Aaron Hill.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Ah, OK, thanks
I looked it up and saw it was a cartoon character, but I was still left wondering what the heck it had to do with Aaron Hill.
To die. To sleep…
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Matt Cain!
He’s been moved up in the rotation, so hopefully we will see the death star on the post game wrap. Fitting since I’m wearing #18 for my work’s Baseball Day
Charge!
Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley’d & thunder’d;
Storm’d at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
But the light brigade died
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 23, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Prediction: not a single sell-out.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Don Cheadle wants us to take that hill!

Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
OT: Hello
I’ve been lurking around here for about 2 years now and I figured it was time to finally get an account. This is my official hello to everyone.
Now onto the important things.
1. Beer and whiskey are delicious.
2. Pie is definitely superior to cake.
3. 109.
I’m at work and not busy so I’ll probably be on here pretty often.
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 23, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions
Welcome!
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 23, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome!
I can see from your numbers that you have a bright future here. Now sit the bench and what CalBearJD do his thing.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Hi!
/waits for Natto image
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Have you rad a sufficient amount of the Game of Throne’s books yet? There is a quiz you’ll have to take
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Pfffft the non-nutty for GoT crowd could use a few more members.
So long as you can contribute to bad puns and Simpsons discussions you’ll be fine.
Welcome!
/waits for Natto gif
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Oh, I don’t mean it as an insult or anything like that. I lurked for quite awhile myself. Back when I actually read Grant’s posts.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 23, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you related to this guy?

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
no, but it be a lot cooler if I was.
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 23, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
'Sup?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Dang.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Welcome! I’m also new and I’ve discovered this place is addicting. Season is almost over so maybe less so.
Come for the PGTs, stay for the rosterbation!
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
LIES!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Just go with your instincts, they’ll lead you in the right direction.
Adopted Giant - Carlos Willoughby, 2011 Sally League All Star
Someone can post pictures of galoots if that will help.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Ask and ye shall recieve:

Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 23, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Just for you

Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 23, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
All-Star jersey, I believe.
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 23, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
She went directly for the moobs.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I get that a lot.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He seems unsure about the nipple rub.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Cavemen are notoriously insecure about their sexuality.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Right on, but seriously, I feel like I’ll be here even more often once the season ends.
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 23, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
MCC is best in the offseason when we don’t even pretend to care about baseball.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I do!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Pretend?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
ah, there it is :)
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Glad you're here.
No, srsly.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
Cheers from bar none… It’s like my Thursday nights!
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 23, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
What are your thoughts on Breaking Bad
Mad Men, Parks & Rec, Community, Game of Thrones (the tv show)?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I think at this point there’s even more discussion about the books.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Welcome!
we may try to work you in as a defensive replacement or pinch-hitter, in a Travis Ishikawa role.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
’sup.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we be Noob buddies?
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro: One who takes a curiously long time to reply to a comment
McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
Can't drink beer
I like the Giants though! Do you like the Grateful Dead?
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro: One who takes a curiously long time to reply to a comment
McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
DO I?!
I think we’ll get along just fine (even without the beer)
by S. Pickford #25 on Sep 23, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro: One who takes a curiously long time to reply to a comment
McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
Resist motorin', embrace Truckin'

Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 23, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I like this
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro: One who takes a curiously long time to reply to a comment
McC: Its's a blog so they're a bunch of hipsters anyway-my brother
Just reading an old Q&A with Chili Davis
David Laurila did on FanGraphs back in July. Davis was talking about Nolan Ryan, and this made me laugh:
He threw a couple balls that moved unlike any [of Ryan’s balls] I’ve ever seen move. We checked it and it had scuffs on it. He was up in age at that time,
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 23, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions
Grant hates the Red Sox
Every player has been clicked except the ones that play for Boston.
Also, I looked yesterday for a WAR/162 leaderboard and couldn’t find one. I bet Pablo would be near the top of that.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Scapy scapy scapy!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
No that is Skee-Lo.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
So wait a minute
You’re rooting for Lincecum to give up 11 earned runs in 3 innings? That’s just mean. And after all this offense has put him through.
Savoring disappointment since 1993.
Hey, we were just talking about Sarah Silverman
And then this happened.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT reply actions
Haha
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like a threesome with Sarah Silverman and 1970’s Mia Farrow, please.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
FETUS FUCKER
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get it.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
He’s dating someone in her family. I think.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I get it now. Thanks. It probably didn’t help that I had the tweets mixed up.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
That is because you were too busy polluting the planet with your devil spawn.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
At least one of those fuckers is going to take care of me when I’m old.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
By then we will have iRetirement… Robots made by apple to take care of old people
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
/dancing robots
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Somewhere Ronald Moore is smiling knowing that Lost is now the show everyone thinks of when they think of horrible series finales
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the BSG finale really loses it because of the "we made it to Earth!" part...
but the entire last season of Lost up to and including the finale was a disappointment. That’s me mildly defending Ron Moore, btw.
Dbacks acquired lefty Zagurski from Phillies
I have a feeling Sandoval will be seing him every game.
I have a feeling Sandoval DeRosa will be seing him every game.
Adopted Giant - Carlos Willoughby, 2011 Sally League All Star
Zagurski
Sandoval won’t be seeing him in batters box of course. Sandoval will be out of the game by 7th inning.
well, not our laughs. theirs
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Grant
Perhaps it was hyperbole, but I have a quibble with your point about Panda being the only worth watching. I really enjoy seeing Beltran’s PAs. He’s the closest thing to Bonds since Bonds left as far as being gifted athletically and being a thinking hitter. Also, his swing is a thing of beauty.
The thong is, it happened.
BLOGGER ADMITS TO INFIDELITIES WITH BELTRAN
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
by can of corn on Sep 23, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
BLOGGER STATED THAT BELTRAN "WAS A SELFISH LOVER"
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OTHER BLOGGERS STATE THAT POWER BOTTOM ABILITIES ARE THE ONLY THING THAT MATTER
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Why I want a sweep
A) not have to witness D-Backs celebrating
B) to kind of say, “we’re still the champs for like 6 more weeks”
C) the D-Backs really aren’t that good, and they need to realize it
D) to gloat to all my D-Backs fan friends — haha like the D-Backs have fans.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
That’s because all of the D-Bags fans are bandwagoneers
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
My niece and nephew are Dbacks fans. =(
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
OT, since we don't have minor lines anymore
Baseball America just ranked Joe Panik the #4 prospect in the Northwest League, and Jesus Galindo the ninth best. Panik was the second ranked position player, after Cory Spagenborg of the Padres.
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
OT Rob Neyer on Moneyball - No joke?
I just read that Rob Neyer review of Moneyball. All the way through, I was waiting to see the hidden Grant credit. Is that really not a parody? Jeez, what a “writer”.
Wait, what?
Do you mean this one? I actually really liked it, and I thought it was very well written.
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, crap. does this mean I have to read Rob Neyer?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Forgot one more reason:
If the DBacks don’t get their win until after the Giants leave town, then all of those celebration photos and vids will have Dodgers in the background instead.
"I hate that mountain. I love baseball."
by Four Point Nine Eight on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM PDT reply actions
Resign yourself.
There is, of course, a non-zero chance the Giants sweep this series, but it is still very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very unlikely.
Or Re-sign youself.
You are your own impact player.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
CC: Si J Roll
CC says good bud J Roll “likely to sign with SF, they need a SS” Kind of hard to believe he can see that far down from the tower of Babel to the lil peops.
But it brings up a very interesting question: would the Giants immediately break the Neukom rule and give Rollins a 3 year deal? Almost in spite of themselves they might make this- a Giant mistake. 2 years is a good deal for Rollins, whatever you pay him, 3 could be a disaster again.
3 years is about the max I'd give him before starting to write off seasons to injury
So I’d do, like, 3/25 million, 30 million if the market’s wacky (which it probably will be). Years beyond that are gonna need an overall discount.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
3 year deal:
Beltran, 3/36 with a 12/6 option on the 3rd year. That’s probably what’lll take to get him. Would make J Roll take 2 cause Adrianza looks to be the real deal.
Come on
Even Brandon Crawford hit in San Jose. It’s silly to expect anything at all out of Adrianza.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
So what you're saying is
Both Crawford & Adrianza have a track record of hitting success!
:D
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t say “I’d do x years/$x million” because what I want or think is reasonable is never 1) close to what the player’s rep aims to get or 2) what the team winds up paying.
I might say 2 or 3 years, but I’m fairly certain his agent(s) will want — and get — 4 years. And I can’t imagine him making any less than $52 million over the life of that contract.
yeah, I freely admit I'm pulling numbers out of my ass here
$52 million seems high for a guy with his injury history through. How many real bidders are there gonna be?
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Now, if Jimmy Rollins got Edgar Renteria's deal and as early as Renteria got his from the Giants,
then I would be pretty happy. Obviously, Rollins is not ideal, but he is far from the worst option.
If Beltran is willing to take 3 than J Roll will be willing to take 2. If Beltran is gone that changes the equation for Rollins.
Basing it on the $ the Giants can afford until Zito’s off the books, and the fact that Baer has basically said they’re not going to do a long term big $ deal until then. Also the players the Giants have in the minors are excellent prospects, Panik apparently now is a SS prospect. Orginally they speculated he’d move to 2B.
That’s the Giants’ view. You were talking as though you knew what Beltran and Rollins wanted/expected/planned to act.
Boras has said he wants to start at 5 years
For Beltran, Giants would be lucky to get him for 3. Yea, I can only speak from what I know of the Giants beyond that. But if this info about CC is accurate and Rollins wants to play here, then he’ll make it happen. And if Beltran is here, he’ll likely do whatever deal the Giants will.
Dunno, just the other day
it was reported that Boras said whatever contract Beltran sign in the off-season may not be his last. Indicates he may be open to a short term deal.
But that puts him at age 37 – pretty late to be looking to get much more than a few 1 year deals from anybody.
/sigh.
Yeah, he’ll probably really be looking for a 4 or 5 year deal when the rubber hits the road this winter..
if the Giants fix their leadoff/SS problem and CF problem quickly, I’m sure they could get out in front of the Beltran wave and sign him.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
…until Zito’s off the books, and the fact that Baer has basically said they’re not going to do a long term big $ deal until then.
When did he say this?
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
He said as much with Gary and Larry, on the public house patio, it was the day Neukom got axed and Baer was much more candid than usual, you can find the interview.
Zito doesn’t come off the books until 16 months after Cain becomes a FA. Could they seriously be considering letting him walk?
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
On 9/14? I didn’t hear anything, implicit or explicit, that referred to their payroll or short vs. long term deals. In fact, he said the Giants owe it to the fans who filled every seat this season, to be “in” on every FA.
Of course, that means they’re probably going after mid-level guys like they do every year, but I certainly don’t think Baer’s interview made that position any more certain.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
Rainy Day Fund
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
sigh…. we’re going to have a winter of this and it’s only because the whomever’s really running the Giants are idiots
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
But ungrammatical.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
BAY AREA TIES!
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
IS HE FROM THE BA
CAUSE I WOULDN’T KNOW THE GIANTS ANNOUNCERS NEVER TELL ME
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
It is known.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
is Rollins, in his current form, someone who could be a real leadoff hitter? I’ll take Rollins and Beltran for 2012.
Rollins SS
Rasmus CF
Posey C
Belt 1B
Sandoval 3B
Beltran LF
Schierholtz RF
Sanchez 2B
Lincecum P
that would be a really nice lineup. Rasmus could be had for Sanchez + B prospect (anyone but Brown, Panik or Hembree)
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, I’m a little delusional. but look at that potential lineup and don’t tell me it’s not doable.
Actually, Belt would probably hit after Nate in a Bork world.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man I do not want Sabean trying to trade with AA
The Jays already swooped Rasmus on the cheap; odds are they’re gonna wanna see if they can fix him. I trust Toronto’s talent evaluation – if they’re willing to unload him, it means whoever’s on the other side of the trade is getting reamed.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Rasmus' too long a deal
Brown’s gonna get a look next year, Sabean has said this. But the year after for sure he’ll be there.
Belt cleanup?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 23, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I originally had him hitting 3rd but then dreamed up Rasmus and it dropped everyone in the order. It’d be more like:
Rollins, Rasmus, Posey, Beltran, Sandoval, Schierholtz, Belt, Sanchez, P
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, he’s under control til 2015. no, he’s not a big money deal.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Not now, but he will be if he’s good, as soon as 2013 you might have to pay 10 mil to keep him if he does as well as you want him to, otherwise there’s better if he’s going to take time to be good.
that’s a good problem to have. if that happens, then you trade him.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Rollins: .333 OBP. Def not prototypical leadoff, but he’s still got pop and RBI ability. Would be better if Christian or Torres fills the gap until Brown is ready possibly next year.
Brown is still in high A ball. He’ll be in AA at the start of next year, and if he rakes he’ll jump to the bigs, I’d imagine.
In any case, I would still hang onto Rasmus. Brown is no sure thing
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The only reason Brown didn’t go to aa this year was because SJ made PS. While they didn’t push him this year both Evans and Sabean have said they will next year. He could join the club down the stretch and be right on time.
we’re already banking on Sanchez and Posey to come back 100%. You want to bank on Brown making the jump from A+ to ML too?
Now you’re taking a huge gamble on 3 very important positions.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
The odds of Gary Brown being able to contribute to the 2012 SF Giants in a meaningful way are very low. 2013 and forward? Much better.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Can people please stop talking about Christian?
He’s NOT an MLB option…for ANYBODY.
/inb4 motorin.
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Job 1:14-15
Window dressing
is what that is. I like Nate in CF personally but I bet they won’t do it. So maybe Peguero comes up, something else besides signing a guy to play CF when you’ve already got 1 coming.
5th OF upside, basically
He’d be a handy 25th man, especially on a lefty-heavy roster like the Giants’. But that’s upside.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Rasmus is sporting a fine .232/.306/.402 and all his good #‘s were in St. Louis, you ready to start there trying to rebuild? Or you want a guy under your own club control who’ll be ready within another year?
Whether Colby Rasmus is good or not has nothing to do with Justin Christian
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
why not? you can always trade him if Brown blossoms, or if you want to keep Rasmus, a legit 5 tool talent with an endless ceiling, you move one of them to RF or LF.
Nate, Brown and Rasmus (theoretically) could be a killer OF. I’m not saying this will happen, I’m just saying there’s no reason it couldn’t.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Because he's not that good
yet where you take that kind of gamble. Brown is the same gamble, and he’s younger.
While I agree that Colby Rasmus is a bad target
That’s because acquiring Rasmus would involve trading with the Toronto Blue Jays, who (presumably) acquired him with an eye to the future, and would require value in return that we don’t have. (To say nothing of the perils of deal-making with Anthopolous.)
A hypothetical outfielder with similar statistics and issues named Rolby Casmus, available as a free agent on a 4-year deal, would be a good pickup. You shift him to right field when Brown comes up and bat him lower in the order. However, I don’t think that outfielder exists.
We can get his non-union Oaklandian equivalents in Coco Crisp or David DeJesus. They’re much crappier, but much cheaper than the hypothetical Rolby Casmus.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
how ’bout this?
we’re shooting down potential trades because we believe our GM would lose his shirt dealing with other baseball GMs
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
They gave up Napoli for Frank Francisco and some money...
Why would a MLB LHP and a prospect not be enough?
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Job 1:14-15
it’s all about the Type B FAs to AA.
hell, Sanchez + Ramirez and Casilla could probably get it done.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, maybe not, the J’s are gonna want a CF back, they’re not gonna budge on Brown or Peguero or 1 of the top prospects.
as you can see, this has gotten out of hand
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d send Sanchez, a B prospect and Torres.
He wasn’t the prospect
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I can only imagine what went through Sabeans mind when Orlando Cabrera showed up. “They sent me the wrong Cabrera”, he mused. “Surely, I traded for Asbrubal.”
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Truthy!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
My OF includes Beltran
Until we hear different. And you have to do something with Huff if you play Belt at 1B or vice versa. Then there’s Nate, if he plays CF that leaves only LF for either Belt or Huff. Or you find a CFer for the time being.
You can't do that.
Beltran is gone…until we hear different.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
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Job 1:14-15
The hell I can't
We’re talking about Rasmus, he’s not even here, and a definite trade away to get him.
♪ ♫ ♪ He’s only a trade a-waaaaaaay…. ♫ ♪ ♫
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Don't tell me that is sung to the tune of The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow?
Don’t tell me. Don’t.
Ok, tell me, so I can not sing it if it is.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course it is… if you people hadn’t been posting pics of that Ragamuffin Bitch all over the blog that song wouldn’t have even come to mind.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Don't call me "you people"!
I don’t even own a photo of that ragamuffin bitch.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I'M SICK OF THAT RAGAMUFFIN BITCH
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
The name of my fantasy football team is Ragamuffin Bitch
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyway
There’s a lot more rumblings about Beltran staying now. Eric Byrnes thinks he wants to, thinks that’s what he said to Boras in LA.
My bad, if Byrnesy he thinks Beltran may have told Boras that he wants to stay in SF...
…then by all means, count him as here!
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Job 1:14-15
If any of baseball’s 29 other teams offer Carlos Beltran a dollar more than the Giants, he will leave.
Source: Woody Wins*
*As reliable as Eric Byrnes thinking he knows what was discussed between a professional athlete and his agent over clam chowder at a restaurant in LA.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
What if Byrnes had a microphone in the bread basket?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, he prolly synced the two iphones by Bluetooth during a security checkpoint!
/saw it on a TV show
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Job 1:14-15
Beltran said, he will only consider staying if the Giants show they are willing to upgrade the offense.
Direct quote, attributed by several newssources to Carlos “Tha Man” Beltran, himself.
Not Byrnes on-air guess at a conversation he was not privy to.
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If the Giants don't upgrade the offense
then you sir, have a strong case for watching another losing season.
Whence this Rasmus love?
In three major-league seasons, he has had one really good one and two pretty bad ones; calling his career totals meh is an act of charity. So why the belief that the one odd year best portrays his ability?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
You're gonna have Beltran bat 6th?
You probably shouldn’t be willing to pay a guy $18M a year if you only think he’s good enough to bat 6th.
Belt and Beltran would switch lineup spots. I goofed up.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It'll probably be more like this
CF – Coco Crisp
2B – Sanchez
RF Beltran
3B – Pablo
C – Posey
1B – Huff
LF – Belt
SS – Crawford
P
The Giants finally won the World Series. Now what?
we’re not getting Coco Crisp. that’s a sideways move. no way they do that
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
His career OBP is .329.
Not a leadoff hitter by any stretch, except to mentalities like Bochy’s, for whom a leadoff hitter is whoever he bats #1.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
This would be nice
If true, it would mean that the Giants won’t sign Yuniesky Betancourt.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
You and I both know he is on the top of their list.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
He's the worst qualified hitter in the league by wRC+ and also an awful shortstop
It’s the Giants way.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I feel a little weird about baseball today. Like, imagine being a DBacks fan right now, counting down the minutes until game time, knowing that they could clinch tonight. That playoffs-is-within-reach feeling from 2010 washes all over me, and I can’t stop thinking about the happiness when the Giants clinched last year. Sure, you can watch Game 162 a million times, but that feeling has to be there. You can think about Christmas all year, but until you start seeing Christmas lights, that feeling, that “this time of year” feeling isn’t there. But right now, the Christmas lights have gone up. Just looks like we’re not getting any presents this time :( I’m probably not making any sense, but that’s ok.
I’ve made my peace with the potential outcome of this weekend. All is right in the world.
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here laugh at this

Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
by kb2011sfg on Sep 23, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
IIRC, Marquis had broke his leg earlier in the game
He simultaneously HBP’d the batter and collapsed from the pain.
the awesome part is that he pitched on that broken leg for an inning or two.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
d’awww! thanks. I’m actually not really down today, but a laugh is always good.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
won’t happen. I wonder why McCourt hasn’t already sold the naming rights to the stadium? that’s got to be worth $200MM
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno
Jerry Jones still can’t get the right price for his new Death Star
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Imagine that
Just yesterday they were talking about “pursuing top free agents” Now McCourt can write them an IOU.
Wait what
In a court filing Friday, MLB attorneys argue that Dodgers owner Frank McCourt is using the team’s bankruptcy to resolve his own financial problems. They also argue that the Dodgers’ plan to auction the team’s television rights without league approval could lead to the team’s ouster from the league and a breach of the Dodgers’ existing contract with Fox Sports.
John McGraw was only a few decades early, apparently?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 23, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
ouster from the league!?!?!
nah
they wouldn’t let that happen would they?
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I don’t think that’s even possible; the Dodgers don’t really exist as an entity separate from Major League Baseball anymore.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
But who's property are the Bums?
Are they mlb property. I think that mlb just has control over the assets but I think McCourt is still holding the deed. It would be damn difficult to kick them out with Selig holding the leash, it won’t happen anyway cause there’s too much $ in that franchise. But in theory it might be possible.
MLB controls the franchise rights. If it really came down to it, MLB could revoke those rights and sell them to someone else. This would set up a huge legal mess to determine what assets are tied to the franchise rights and what would be retained by the 5 holding companies that McCourt has set up for various parts of the Dodgers operation.
I don't know.
On the one hand, they’re one of the marquee franchises of the league, even in their current sorry state.
On the other hand, if the court doesn’t back MLB, it’s really the one play they have left to try to control McCourt.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 23, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
In fact, reading the rest of the story, that sounds almost exactly like what's being suggested.
It’s a subtle threat. “The value your franchise holds comes from being part of MLB. If we kick the franchise out, not only are you holding these debts, but the franchise then essentially becomes valueless and you have no way to leverage it further. You’ll have a worthless asset, a mountain of debt, and no way out.”
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 23, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
sounds like some strong arm tactics
also sounds like the McCourt[s] just don’t get it.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
having majored in business, I understand enough of what is going on here to say that MLB cannot kick the Dodgers out of the league.
The court battle MLB went through for their anti-trust exemption will prohibit that from happening. They wanted to be a whole entity, well now they’ve got it. They can’t just violate that when they feel fit.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at it like...
I dunno. Cell phone companies and binding arbitration clauses.
What MLB can do, and what MLB can threaten to try to coerce behavior modification, are two different things.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 23, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB no longer has unilateral power over its membership, so it’s all just empty threats.
McCourt, however, seems to have taken this personally by now, and will go down scratching and clawing. This could drag out for another 5 years, in all likelihood.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you explain that is more detail?
It doesn’t sound correct to me, but what is the line of legal reasoning? Why cannot a franchisor revoke the franchise of a franchisee who violates the rules the franchisor lays down for franchisees?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
MLB is Eli Whiteside, and McCourt is the other team.
They can’t stop him.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB is Keppinger’s bat ability to keep baseballs from getting past him, and McCourt is everyone else.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Since the big time blame game will probably start later tonight
Here’s a few candidate goats for the season.

I have that calendar!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL extrabaggs
Diamondbacks postseason tickets available for as little as $12, according to signage outside Chase Field. Bet they don’t sell out, either.
I would fly to Phoenix and go to the games for that kind of money. Philly LDS tickets are $430 at the cheapest
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
at those prices...
AZ will lose homefield advantage. It’s a shame, but it will be way cheaper for Brewers or Philly fans to get into the AZ games than at home.
I hadn’t been to Phoenix since ’06 before the All Star game this year, and man it looks much more economically depressed than I remembered it to be.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 23, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I was in Phoenix a year ago with my buddy visiting his sister who had just moved there, and it was pretty weak.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLineup
@extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Lineup: Christian cf Keppinger 2b Beltran rf Pill 1b DeRosa 3b Belt lf Cabrera ss Whiteside c Cain p
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 2:49 PM PDT reply actions
Are they springing for the champagne tonight too?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Mayhaps.
We’ll have music, such sweet music, and wine, heh, the red will run, and we’ll put some wrongs aright. But now you’re weary, and wet as well, dripping on my floor. There’s fires waiting for you, and hot mulled wine, and baths if you want ‘em. Lothar Murph, show our guests to their quarters.
I rhyme with freak.
I don’t know what MLB rules are for qualifying the playoffs after mass slaughter
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Except in Bochy's deficient mind, it's not a white flag lineup at all. It's the lineup with the best chance of success.
It’s a wonder that the Giants were able to overcome the tremendous anchor that Bochy is and win it all last year.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Oddly, the team was fine last year. He didn’t play Rowand after Torres became good, played Huff (I guess Ishikawa wasn’t much competition), played Burrell played Bumgarner and kept Zito away from the playoffs, used Romo pretty frequently, generally used Lopez for lefties…
Would've played Guillen except Guillen was stupid enough to figure a way to be gone.
And Ross NEVER would’ve had a chance to do what he did.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s it though, compared to the rest of what he did do well. And while I won’t endorse Guillen, I don’t know what they would have done in the playoffs with all of them. Ross was hitting quite well in his september PT (in the SSS, but that I am talking about what the org would do, not what is backed up)
Hence my signature….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
And your sig is EVER so accurate.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Full Disclosure
this has been a radio only season. Loved how Flem said “and they may just ride Huff right out of the PS at the end.”
Pablol
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK YOU BRUCE BOCHY
STOP PLAYING ORLANDO CABRERA
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Yeah, probably.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Most definitely
He is gritty and gamery to make Bochy happy and will work cheap enough to make Baer happy.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
just asked Baggs if he'd heard any whispers indicating that
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it’s a joke, and it won’t really happen, but I will find another team for 2012 if Orlando Cabrera is back on this team in 2012.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
giantsfan4life(exceptthatonetimein2012)83
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
giantsfan4awhile
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s been awhile, since I could, hold my head up head
It’s been awhile, since I could call you
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m already making plans for a nice long playoff run for the Sharks… that’ll take me into June… then maybe a summer job, restoring trails in Yosemite Park, or New Zealand… or something.
Depending on the off season signings we may break our tradition of going to Opening Day in 2012.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
If not Cabrera, Sabean will find another stiff or two to sign, and Bochy will be ever so happy to play them.
This shit will continue ad infinitum, ad nauseum until the ownership gets tired of their silly antics.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL as I remember a kid we used to lock in his locker in high school.
My friends and I were asses at times. But now that I think of it, the dude had it coming.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
sigh
MOTORIN
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
what the...
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Oh Amy, stop making me cry (in a manly way, of course)
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
This might be a better reaction to this season

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
You are a colonoscope?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Amy Knope is not very happy about this lineup

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Get me the hell out of this thing, please.

I feel like taking a bath after getting Bork’d.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 23, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF IS THIS SHIT?!?? I quit. Fuck you, Bruce Bochy
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
this seriously look exactly like a ST lineup.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like the Giants are facing 90% LHP these days
and, coincidentally, fielding crappy lineups 90% of the time.
If only they had some decent right handed hitters…a Buster Posey, or Pat Burrell, or even a Freddy Sanchez type…oh right.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
teams have caught on that Bork will put out bad lineups vs LHP. His stupidity has literally bred losing lineups.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
admit it, you were cheering as much as anyone when he hit that ball. Best non-TGWTWS moment I’ve ever seen in baseball
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Sep 23, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
….still.
I had tickets to that game through my roommate’s mother and just as we were about to leave for Chavez Ravine (I was in Santa Barbara at the time) she called up to say somebody in the office accidently gave her tickets away so we wound up missing the game. Still a little peeved about that
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
But why would I cheer when a Dodger hits a big home run?
That’s the opposite of what I want.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
You mean you didn't give Steve Finley's home run a standing ovation?
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
it’s not like I cared about the Dodgers (naturally) but the Dude could barely walk and could barely swing a bat. They threw him out there at the last moment of the game because they were down to their last out and he somehow hit a home run to win the game. When he did, he barely made it around the bases he was so banged up. It was just a flat-out great sports moment and one of the best moments in baseball and you had to get a thrill out of it. I don’t care who it is— it was a great moment.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I supposed to like Horry hitting that jumper after Vlade tipped it out?
Or Spiezio’s dinger?
Because those were pretty great sports moments too.
Shift-A: Actually working today
it’s a weird feeling.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
wow, I didn’t realize Pablo was already at 6.1 WAR. Pro-rated for 40 games of missed time- not to mention he can’t hit vs LHP, he’d be about the 3rd most valuable player in baseball this season with a 7.6 WAR
I wonder what WAR Pablo and Posey could put up combined? /salivates
<3 Kanani Madison
Posey lost so much this year, super 2 status namely, and a boat load of cash with it. Best case scenario he avoids a sophomore slump though, comes back better than ever.
Posey doesn't lose his super 2 status
He’s still been accruing major league service time the whole season.
but super two’s probably won’t exist after this CBA, so it’s a moot point
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s still going to need stats. This season’s combined with last may push him back, he was already on the cusp with his service time.
It sounds like you don't understand the rules
Assuming he is on the major-league roster all of next season, which is essentially a dead certainty, he will be eligible for arbitration after the season. His arbitration award (if it comes to that), will be based on his stats, but as for being arb-eligible, he almost certainly will be.
128 days top 17%. Maybe my years are messed up. Shouldn’t he have been eligible next year to be a super 2?
He will be
The “top 17%” is just the top 17% by service time. Performance has nothing to with it (other than, obviously, playing well enough to stay in the majors).
Well OK then
Baseball Ref has him eligible in 2013, and I couldn’t find any other sources to the contrary. I know there’s other rules around it though.
For some reason
BBref’s service time thing hasn’t been updated since Jan 2010, when Posey only had 33 days of service time. He’s now at something like 1.155. Assuming he winds up 2012 at 2.155 (by far the most likely scenario), he’ll be eligible for arbitration.
But he should’ve been arb eligible in 2012 according to my calculations to be a super 2. Maybe I’m wrong. But Ryan Howard for instance won 10 mil in arbitration in his 3rd year. Posey will be going into his 3rd year next year.
Super 2
Are guys who have two full years of service time plus. Howard won his arb case after the 2007 season, at which time he had 2 years, 145 days of service (cup of coffee in 2004, partial season 2005, full years in 2006 and 2007). Posey has, right now, about one year plus 150 or so days of ML service time. He’ll be a super 2 after the 2012 season.
It was playoffs, but...
…I was at Candlestick in 97 watching the Marlins celebrate on OUR mound. I am very glad I won’t be at the games this weekend. One visiting team celebrating at your home is enough for a lifetime.
(Same year I saw my first no-hitter, Kevin Brown…at Candlestick. Now I don’t go to Giants/Marlins games anymore.)
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Job 1:14-15
I was at the game in ’97 too. Not one of my favorite highlights
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
by now, there’s enough evidence that no one should ever go to a Giants/Marlins game again ever
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by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
RITE?
I can’t imagine what it would have done to my psyche to have been at all three of the Marlinocalypse games: KB no-hitter, Candlestick Clinch, and the game that shall not be named.
My brain may have broke.
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Job 1:14-15
.
Giants win 6, Diamondbacks lose 6, and the Giants get swept by the Phillies in the NLCS after Orlando Cabrera fucks up.
Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, and Madison Bumgarner,
L2WIN.
FFFFFFFfff...
Following said fuck up
Cabrera reaches into his back pocket, pulls out a bunched up Phillies jersey, starts waving it around and joins the celebration.
by ohcleverhansyou on Sep 23, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...going up to the the Bay Area for 4 hours on Tuesday!
Pleasanton here I come!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
So, wait...you actually watched Fever Pitch?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
There’s a better movie called Fever Pitch that stars Colin Firth and is about soccer. It’s based on the Nick Hornby novel.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Plus, having Drew Barrymore automatically makes it good, right?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I’m missing a joke here. Sorry!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Sorry, I was referring to the movie Fever Pitch. There’s a scene where Drew Barrymore gets hit in the head with a foul ball and gets knocked out. It was Tejada’s foul ball.
Did he give her the spotlight and throw his hands up in the air, and then do a 360 and fall down?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Ohhhhhhhhhh
My bad.
I’m still going to assume Grant watched Jimmy Fallon with glee.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
maybe if he starts all 6 of these games
which won’t happen
which probably won’t happen
which may not happen
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
it'll take some work
22 more hitless PAs, so it’s possible, but he would probably have to start every game. I really hope he doesn’t start every game.
MOST HATED GIANT
He has almost surpassed Benitez
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Benitez did more good things.
But O-Crap IS creeping up on A.J.
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Job 1:14-15
You know what Benitez did do a few good things… Crapbrera is officially my most hated Giant.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I hate Cabrera a lot more than Rownad or Tejada
Those guys at least have done a couple good things for the team, while Cabrera has literally been the worst Giants player in a long time (non-Bocock division). But, yeah, Pierzynski and Benitez were way worse. They played bad for the Giants and were jerks to boot.
It's a different kind of hate
We hate Pierzynski because he’s an awful person. We hate Cabrera because he represents an awful process.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
AJ is the only player who could unite Giants and A’s fans. Both hate him with a passion. Throw in Angels fans, too.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
They hate him in Minnesota, too. It was pretty cool when he was getting booed in his home park in spring training.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Did you guys forget
that Pierzynski hit into more 4-3s than Huff ever did? It seemed that way, anyhow.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
No. Benitez lost a game because he BALKED TWICE. I repeat— BALKED TWICE. And that doesn’t include all the other meltdowns as well as the constant whining to the press about how hard he’s trying and how the poor Giants’ fans wouldn’t leave him alone.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
He led to Brian Sabean and Ralph Barbieri getting into a huge screaming match on the radio over his value which some might considering worthwhile from an entertainment standpoint
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Benitez was just setting us up for the heartbreak
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate the mental infant that, while purpoting to be a baseball professional, decided that Cabrera would be a great addition to the Giants.
How anyone can look at this particular folly of Brian Sabean and not conclude that he is laughably incompetent and inept is beyond me.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
but, but…
It was academic!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Maybe we misunderstood his comment
3. not practical, realistic, or directly useful: an academic question; an academic discussion of a matter already decided.
or Epidemic
Orlando Cabrera’s suck is epidemic. Since he began playing with the San Francisco Giants his suck spread throughout the team like a plague.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Yeah well...
If a Druid gave me rabies, I wouldn’t hate the rabies. I’d hate the Druid.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
The thing was he was even worse than we all thought. His numbers were slightly better than Tejada and he looked impressive the first few games he played (I know I did) and then just one day he went straight over the line into horrific and never came back.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I love seeing stars in movies before they were famous
I just Phil Hartman with a tiny one-line roll in Pee Wee’s Big Adventure
The thong is, it happened.
How does Hartman feel about you philling him with that tiny roll?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard he liked to keep it rolled up for future lines.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I like this in TV too.
My favorite: Christina Hendricks in Firefly.
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Job 1:14-15
I have never even heard of this
There was an MTV soap opera?
just watched that episode a few days ago and she was really cute in it
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
If you don't get it quite right with her, does she give you one more chance?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
She looked a lot….lot different back then. Like about forty pounds lighter and I’m not just talking about the (very possibly enhanced) boobs
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
She went from starving actress, to one with money, and most of it went to her bewbs, in whatever context that applies.
But I liked her a lot better then.
Man, she woulda had me snowed, too.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
OT: I had an appointment with a certain Dr. Woo yesterday in RC.
All day long I’ve been singing that stupid song, and every word I sang I knew was true. Dr. Woo is with me.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
I'm just an ordinary guy.
And I’ve done all I can do.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Surprising stat
#SFGiants Catchers have caught 44 potential basestealers in 2011 – tied with SD for most in #MLB
well if every team they play runs on them about six times a game, there’s a high possibility you’ll catch a bunch of them
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
bingo
I’ll bet Whiteside caught less than 10% of basestealers, without looking up the numbers.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
26%
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Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Bullshit
You must mean 2.6%
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Is that from 2011, or career?
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
2011
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Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Newey Scruggs!
Real nice guy, his wife is from here. Told me via a FB message that he’s moving here once he retires.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 23, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Stewie is first in the Majors at 40%.
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Job 1:14-15
If he's not out of a job tonight, he's not out of one next season.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
So, it's kind of obvious why he's sitting then.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Bruce Bochy of course...
Going with his gut etc
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
first real must-win of the year, and they’re gonna run all over Whiteside. Sanchez doesn’t have enough experience for such an important game.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh there have been plenty of must wins before this…
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I was being sarcastic about Sanchez not having the experience.
also, we differ on what a must-win is. must-win means win or go home.
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Woops. Shoppach is at 45%
I read it wrong at first.
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Job 1:14-15
Yup
I ain’t watching this game.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I have a date with my bestie*, instead.
We’re going out to dinner, and then seeing Moneyball.
*or “biffle,” as GiantPain calls it.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
As you can tell, I don’t know how to approach this series preview with anything other than Gumby shoulders.
Let’s do it.
by Gumby Shoulders on Sep 23, 2011 4:19 PM PDT reply actions
You guys are gonna have fun!
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Job 1:14-15
WTH????
103˚ ???
Really?
WTF already???
STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I have the sun thermostat in my living room, and I do play around with it frequently.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 23, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Visit the Bay Area this weekend. Much cooler.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Good idea...
We might. Mr. Merope might have to work though. Hiking at Pt Reyes maybe. Ugh, the drive. Maybe.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
i need to watch P&R!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
we laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed. I’m sad they cut Outsourced though
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh Ann
You beautiful, naive, sophisticated newborn baby.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Fantastic episode.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I’m Ron Swanson and you’re Leslie fucking Knope.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Also
Perd Hapley. OMG.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I don’t know what you were saying, but it had the cadence of a joke.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
ESPN will have nothing to do tonight
Red Sox-Yankees rained out.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
interesting. go Angels and Rays!
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 23, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
To continue the discussion on trade prospects: Jonthan Sanchez
From Baggerly:
J.Sanchez not thinking about non-tender or trade. Said he’d have played for all 30 teams by now if all trade rumors meant something.
While he’s right in the past he could’ve gotten some value in trade, the non-tender idea has been floated more frequently this year of late. Especially given the injury, what you can get for Sanchy now is a helluva lot less than before. As the example, Colby Rasmus, you’d have to throw in a proven CF prospect at least.
I suspect the Giants will tender him with a minor bump in pay and then trade him.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
If they trade him
After the season starts that’s rough on the rotation, if he’s not in it the valuable is almost nothing. And if they do it in ST his value will still be diminished. So if they wait until the deadline and do a deal that doesn’t help in filling any positions at the start. Sanchez is going to end up dirty in this 1, again.
This MUST mean Beltran is coming back!
/couldn’t resist ;)
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Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Conan the Barbarian is sort of a boring movie so far. 1 hour into it.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Nah. 1982.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
1982, now that was a pretty good year. Not like this sucky 2011. Blech!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
lol old
I wasn’t alive!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Something tells me Andre would have made a better Governor.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Better than Zombie-Undead-Jerry Brown?
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Man, I’d love to go to the Sharks game tonight….
….all that ice… mmmmmmmmmmmmm….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
lol U Hawt?
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Job 1:14-15
The temperature’s starting to drop…
the temperature’s starting to drop…
yeah, all the way down to 101.5
And it wold be better than watching the Giants. Did you see that lineup???
Ugh.
lee
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
This is unfair to the concept of 'ugly.'
Also: I was standing outside, in my fleece jacket, and I shivered. (It’s a BALMY 50F!)
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
So hot in Sacramento you want to go to a preseason game? (are those games cheaper than the regular season?)
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I don’t think he cares for hockey even.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I don’t but I understand going to a regular season game. Preseason in any sport is pointless to pay for (I hate having to pay for the exhibition Bay Bridge series with my Giants season tickets).
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
So have we talked about Community yet?
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 4:48 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, we talked about it last night
PiKA and I agreed that it was disappointing.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Really?
I greatly enjoyed it. Michael K Williams (<3) didn’t have much to his role, but it was a good straightman set-up. And John Goodman is every kind of amazing.
It didn’t blow me away but it was a very entertaining table-setter that had that hint of melancholy that makes Community awesome.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll copy-paste our discussion, since it summarizes pretty well why I found it problematic
i was kinda surprised about Community
The first few minutes were promising, but after that everything was overdramatic, too ridiculous, or both.
WAYYYYYYYYYY too overdramatic, definitely like the fact Chang is security now
I never want to see Chang again; he hasn’t been funny since the last episode of the first season. The whole air conditioning thing was just stupid. Abed’s plot was also stupid; he’s ceased to have any sort of emotional depth.
I watch the scene where Jeff attacked the table with an ax (WTF) and think back to the best episodes of Season 1 and it seems like a totally different show.
ABED BARELY DID ANYTHING, and that really sucked.
yea, something has definitely changed, i totally agree with what you’re saying about how the show isn’t the same as what it was
Very few of the characters did anything, really
It feels like they were trying to do something with Britta, but evidently that would have cut into Chang’s screen time, so it was abandoned. Troy was only there in relation to Abed, and since Abed did very little Troy did less. Annie said a few things to Jeff but that was basically it. I don’t think Shirley did anything at all.
Remember when they could fit three good plots into one episode? I miss that.
yea, nobody really had a major role. I totally remember when each episode they would focus in on someone, like Abed and Troy for a few, Jeff for a few, Annie and Jeff for a few… it was just… better!
That’s not to say that there weren’t good things, mind; it’s still one of the best shows on TV.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
That's fair enough
I went into it kinda prepared for broad strokes, what with it being a season premiere. Abed was definitely weak, but come on, Cougarton Abbey! AMAZING!
And I think the “Chang as security” thing was a quick and dirty way to get him on a level where he could interact with normal human beings again. We’ll see how it goes – I agree that the character’s gotten pretty out there, but he’s not unsalvageable or anything.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure someone at Community reads MCC and is pandering to the McCoven...
c’mon now…an Allison Brie skirt flip in the opening act AND a Dr. Who reference?
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
The latter might be pandering to the McCoven
The former certainly isn’t.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
The Brie skirt flip was pretty much pandering to everyone on the interent
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, yeah, Cougarton Abbey was great
One of the things I liked about the string of spoof episodes near the end of the first season was that the characters were so well developed that they could drop them in strange situations and it would still feel right. In a way it was like Duck Amuck. It spoke to a larger strength of the show; the completeness of the characters gave it an emotional depth that comedies rarely have. It really bothers me that they’re sacrificing that for the sake of a joke.
I guess my real problem with Chang is what they did to him last year. Still, the scene where he fell from the vent in which he lived right into the dean’s office just as he needed a security guard reeks of the wacky hijinks that make me not watch shows. The same goes for the repeated mentions of the monkey; it was really funny once but out of context it just seems awfully mindless.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
How many Kubrick movies were satirized in that episode?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
@hankschulman Henry Schulman
Bochy: 100 percent that Posey will be a catcher next year.
@hankschulman Henry Schulman
Won’t rule out moving Posey down the road, but for now, “we need his mind” behind the plate as much as his bat.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 4:56 PM PDT reply actions
@hankschulman Henry Schulman
Posey this week began catching pitches from a machine, 40-50 per session. Goal is catching a live bullpen by 11/1. In guessing he beats that
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Baggs is tweeting similar info.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
YES!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Unpack it and find out.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
So this GIF really is
the face Natto makes as he outsources his GIF work to underpaid Indian artists and laughs about it..
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
lol no
it just freaks me out a little…almost animatronic
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
just all part of my childhood fear of puppets, marionettes, and all things Pence
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
PUPPETISM!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
nah
for some reason, muppets are exempt
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
They move when you click
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I did this on the Google page: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM89T74MPnE
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
My Opening Day roster for 2012
Rollins SS
Sanchez 2B
Beltran RF
Posey C
Sandoval 3B
Pill 1B
Belt LF
Christian CF
Bench: Stewart, Torres, Huff, Kepp, Crawford
MOTORIN!!!!!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
it's rosterbating
of course it is…
however, it’s not certain Belt will win a starting job in spring training, Huff could very well start the year in LF. Pill will almost certainly win the starting 1B job. You heard it here first…
Christian over Torres? I could definitely see that happening (don’t get your panties in a twist)
I don't see pill winning the job at first by a longshot it'll be huff because BORK
If not then Belt will be at first
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2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Srsly...you are twisting my panties.
How in the name of everything holy do you think Christian is a viable option for ANYBODY, and why do you think the Giants’ FO would keep him next year TO START????
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
Why do I not think so?
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I'm not trolling
My opening day lineup is not meant to incite, it’s what I truly think the opening day roster will look like.
If it doesn’t, oh well…
GAH!!! ENOUGH WITH THINKING JASON CHRISTIAN WILL BE ON THE GIANTS!!!!!!
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Job 1:14-15
I knew Jason was not his first name
but it took me about 5 minutes to remember that it’s actually Justin
WWRWD?
THAT'S HOW INTEGRAL HE IS TO THE ORG!
I have a friend named Jason Christian, and he plays baseball just as well as Justin.
Does not belie my point, however. I am so tired of people including him in their rosterbatory fantasies. WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
hah, we’ll see…
again, don’t be surprised if it happens…
and please don’t have an aneurysm if it does, it’s only baseball bro
I'M NOT YOUR BRO, FRIEND!
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Job 1:14-15
I’m not your friend, dude!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I'M NOT YOUR DUDE, GUY!!!
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Fail at my own thingy,
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
I'm not your friend, Sister!
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. 2011 NWL MVP .
Job 1:14-15
With firebombs.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
While we're at it.
BJ Upton CF
Sanchez 2B
Beltran RF
Posey C
Sandoval 3B
Rollins SS
Pill 1B
Belt LF
Bench: Ramon Hernandez, Torres, Huff, Keppinger, Crawford
Go Sharks!
except that it will be huff 1B/ Belt LF or the reverse of that
I don’t see pill being anymore than a bench bat for LHP
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
sounds good.
BJ Upton CF
Sanchez 2B
Beltran RF
Posey C
Sandoval 3B
Rollins SS
Belt LF
Huff 1B
Bench: Ramon Hernandez, Torres, Pill, Keppinger, Crawford
Go Sharks!
You guys
You really need to stop thinking that someone other than Huff is going to be the Giants’ opening-day first baseman. And you really really need to stop thinking that someone else could or should be Brett Pill.
This with a 99.99% probabillity
I could see belt in left and huff at first happening
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
They’re rosterbating.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
I know
I just get frustrated at all the people that are like OMG WE NEED TO PLAY PILL AT FIRST BASE NEXT YEAR. because it is forcing the real prospect out of position. he has had some good at bats but it is still SSS
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
hes had 31 PA's at the major league level so excuse me if I am doubtful of his ability yet
not to mention it took him two years, to hit well at a level that belt pretty much mastered five years younger than pill. belt needed to be in Fresno the entire season until September if this is the way he was going to be treated. Pill could have been up here at that time. I’m sorry I don’t believe that Pill will be a major league starting first baseman: a bench bat or platoon player off the bench.
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
>>>

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 24, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Justin Christian is terrible
Brett Pill is not good.
Mike Fontenot still exists.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
THIS
this and…this
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2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Rollins and Beltran
No. They will not be Giants.
So...
apparently every team the Giants face for the remainder of the season is just going to use left handed pitchers… maybe Panda should just go get that surgery now, and have extra recovery time?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Poor Panda's had a hell of a year
If he’d avoided ONE of his two injuries, this team could be looking at the playoffs right now – to say nothing of the kind of individual numbers he’d be putting up. Hell, he’d probably be in better shape even.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 23, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Last year: Weight, divorce, rented house on fire (?)
This year: Hamate, quads, shoulder
Next year: ???
Triple crown
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
WS MVP
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
If that's the case...
I’d be in favor of letting Huff get an early start on his offseason as well.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
Lol me, starting Pomeranz in Pokemonz against the Lastros.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
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Job 1:14-15
GDT
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/9/23/2445554/open-gamethread-9-23#comments
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Opening day 2012
Keppinger 6
Sanchez 4
Posey 2
Ethier 8
Sandoval 5
Pill 3
Schierholtz 9
Belt 7
Bench: Huff, Christian, Stewart,

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