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Post-game thread: I'm starting to think the Giants are running out of time

Here's what I take away from this series.

Star-divide

Before the season started, Joe Sheehan made picks for the postseason and individual awards for SI.com. It wasn't pretty. He picked Clayton Kershaw to win the Cy Young (gross), Matt Kemp to win the MVP (shudder), and the Dodgers to win the National League West (barf). It seemed like a huge stretch on all counts. Kershaw still had that post-teenage wild hair up his nose. Matt Kemp wasn't that good last year. And the Dodgers winning the West would have just been awful, and it was unlikely to boot.

So the Giants gave the Cy Young to Clayton Kershaw. There are arguments for Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay, and Ian Kennedy if you're 83 years old and sun-addled, but it's going to Kershaw. The voters will unconsciously concoct some ex post facto excuse to not vote for Lee and Halladay -- they gave each other secret, unfair, teammate pitching tips that go against the spirit of the award! -- and Kershaw will get it.

And it's not like the Giants have automatically given the MVP to Matt Kemp, but they sure as crap didn't help. Tonight, they might have helped him get the Triple Crown. Seriously, it's amazing that there isn't more national hype about this. Ryan Braun is hitting .330 to lead the NL. Kemp is now at .326. Turns out that a 4-for-4 night will raise the ol' batting average. Pujols hit a homer tonight, so he still leads with 37. Kemp now has 36. And Kemp leads in RBI with 118, with Ryan Howard in second with 113.

Matt Kemp could win the Triple Crown. The last guy to do that in the N.L. was Ducky Joe M.F. Medwick in 1937. Kemp could do it. He was way behind in average, and he lost a homer to Pujols, but, hey, Zito. It's not like Bumgarner helped, but it was Zito with the cherry on top. There's an "All My Children" plot twist for you. "I thought you were ... but they told me you had ... Barry? Barry, is that you?"

But the Dodgers didn't win the NL West. The Giants were usurped by awful pig-men, but it wasn't the Dodgers who did it. Kershaw might have won the Cy Young, and Kemp might have won the MVP, but the Dodgers still had a dismal year. It's a sad sunbeam to nap in, but it's about all we have*.

*Other than the World Series last year, of course!. Use that when you can because the memories do fade. I can't remember what it was like to watch Steve Young hit Jerry Rice on a post pattern while all of the Chargers fans in the room gasped. I was there. It happened. But I can't remember what it felt like. The specifics are fuzzy. It leaves you. Roll around in it while you can! There is no shame in it!

There could have been worse ways for this season to end. The order of teams I don't want to see beat the Giants: Dodgers, Padres/Rockies (tie), Diamondbacks. The Diamondbacks still annoy me, mind you, but they don't have the Padres/Rockies annoyance factor just yet, not close. If the Dodgers had been the ones to take the West after the championship ... that would have felt bad, man.

Crap series to punctuate the crap sentence that reads "This season was crap!" Yeah, there's no getting around that. And the Giants' flailing might have given the Dodgers a Cy Young winner -- their first since Gagne over Jason Schmidt! Hooray! -- and the Giants' pitching, while beyond reproach, might have helped Matt Kemp do amazing things. But the Giants will finish ahead of the Dodgers, dang it. And the Dodgers will still have Ned Colletti and financial problems and those Eugenio Velez stains all over the clubhouse that you can't even get out with a power sander and James Loney back on a two-year deal because of his surge and Aaron Miles and Ned Colletti.

There will be time for a proper postscript on the season. Right now, I'm just glad the Dodgers aren't that happy either.

Wish the Giants had an MVP and Cy Young contender.

Maybe Romo will win the Jeff Nelson Award for Setup Excellence.

Wonder what's on TCM.

/puts in World Series DVDs
//dresses up like Norma Desmond
///closes book on 2011
////damn, baseball has a long season

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Boch and Sabez knew the playoffs were a lost cause anyways.

So they hatched this plan of starting Cabrera against Kershaw and letting Zito pitch Kemp so they they will get a higher payday, thus the Dodgers cannot keep them. Genius!

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Sep 22, 2011 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

those two cannot even dial the right phone number without assistance, or cook eggs.

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok I refuse to post the Matt Kemp graphic

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Sep 22, 2011 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you Grant for toughing this one out

This post game wrap has got to be painful to write, even though the outcome was never in doubt ever since the 4th inning.

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw

by jctGamer on Sep 22, 2011 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

This was the scooping llama poop out of my desk of post-game threads. No job is perfect.

by Grant Brisbee on Sep 22, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

you should have posted the picture

from when he was angered because Edlefsen and Joaquin and Zito, the men entrusted with keeping the Giants in this thing, made damned sure they were out of this thing.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you are dumb enough to think that Edlefsen will do anything other than put you out of this thing™, you deserve to be out of this thing.™

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Sep 23, 2011 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a huge "IF," mind you,

but IF August had gone remotely better, I’d be pretty damn proud of this season. We’d likely have a postseason berth, but even if we didn’t, not only do we have 2010, but we had plenty of legit reasons to fail wrapped up in a few strokes of bad luck up to that point. Throw in some great sidebars like Vogelsong in the ASG, etc. and it would have been a good season. Not the best, certainly not even great, but an acceptable leveling off after critical parts of the lineup have been removed.

But last month was really the turning point where I had no fucking clue what was going on in any level of management, and they gave me few, if any reasons to think they did, either. It makes me sad that I will have to fight harder to remember the good stuff about this year DESPITE August, instead of the other way around.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Sep 22, 2011 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

The Rowand and Tejada banishment gave me hope there for a few hours.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Likewise.

Somehow I thought we were turning a corner, as it were.

Not so much.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Sep 23, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was the corner…to DOOM!

by Hyoton on Sep 23, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

in that SI article, 5 of 12 voted Belt for ROY

that’s just silly, LOL us.

Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.

by DJ Tofu on Sep 22, 2011 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

wtf

It's the logo for my favorite band!

by positiveuphemism on Sep 22, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL WUT?

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Sep 22, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s when he got plunked in the foot. Catcher must have known him.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 22, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or just wanted someone to hold

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Sep 22, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

barajas and beltran were teammates last year with the mets.

Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN

by Nnamdi Asomugha on Sep 22, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, this needs some explanation.

by non sequitur on Sep 22, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think this was the backfoot slider that really hit the back foot.

by Hyoton on Sep 22, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taste Greatness

That bit at the end would make for a great pic

It's the logo for my favorite band!

by positiveuphemism on Sep 22, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhhhhhh I see. Amazing what you don’t notice when it’s happening in real time (probably because it doesn’t really mean anything).

by non sequitur on Sep 22, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Bret Michaels commercial came up when I clicked on that link.

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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Sep 23, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poison Pill.

@legaleagle88
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Sep 23, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Danger!

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

They call this one the “HBP Polka”

by Hyoton on Sep 22, 2011 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahahahaah

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Sep 22, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

the umpire might actually be the most amusing part

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Sep 22, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s my favorite.

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by Natto on Sep 22, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

His brief kick for no apparent reason — that reminds me of the dancing egghead GIF.

by non sequitur on Sep 22, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

What was the catcher doing with his hands?

by Hyoton on Sep 22, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

that can’t be random

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

He kicked his foot out to indicate where the pitch hit Beltran

Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.

by tobias on Sep 23, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wow LOL

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Sep 22, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the...?

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Sep 22, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

They look like they're having fun

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Sep 22, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s gold, Jerry, gold!

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

This would have been more perfect...

If Russell Martin was still catching…he can suck it like no other

by Artimus Clyde on Sep 23, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

ahahahahahahaha

Oh my goodness Natto you’ve outdone yourself. That is by far the most amazing thing I’ve seen tonight, and I still can’t even wrap my head around what this is exactly.

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller

It's Posey time!!

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by sanfrankid on Sep 23, 2011 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

wat

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s all dirty dancing these days.

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"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.

by ResDog on Sep 23, 2011 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

If only Russell Martin were catching.

Russell Martin would actually be sucking it.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Sep 23, 2011 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best gif of the year or...

…best gif of the year?

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Sep 23, 2011 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

/fixed
Best gif of the year or…

…best gif of the year ever?

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half

by operation carrot on Sep 23, 2011 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Giants baseball: Together We're Crippled

by TheAntiBork on Sep 23, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cha-cha ump.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had to surrender the remote because of this… I kept going back and watching it and laughing.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Sep 23, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why must this be explained? CANT A GUY JUST HOP AROUND AND SHAKE HIS PACKAGE AT ANOTHER GUY’S FACE AND RECEIVE BUTT PATS WITHOUT EVERYONE JUDGING!!!

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Sep 23, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the best gif on the MCC ever

Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants

Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.

by thehavenot on Sep 23, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part of me wishes AZ had clinched before today so we’d be spared watching them celebrate personally.

Anagram of "SF Giants season" = GAS OF NASTINESS

by Stuttering John Tamargo on Sep 22, 2011 11:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Karma

Giants clinched at home in the Padres players faces, so now its their turn.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 22, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

the top of the Giants lineup really, really sucks. there’s never anyone on base when Beltran and Pablo hit. hell, there’s never anyone on base period. but the top of the lineup shouldn’t be Christian and Keppinger (who is much, much worse than we thought he was)

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Fontenot and Pill should have started. Wish Nate and Ross were healthy.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 22, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Torres, if the alternative is Christian. I find it odd how Bochy always used different lineups when they were losing (gotta find that magical combination of suck!!) but when they were putting up 8 runs a game, he still couldn’t stop fucking with it.

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Christian did have a good game yesterday.

However, considering how bad Kepp was last night, plus how Bochy likes his splits, why doesn’t he use Fontenot at 2B more often?

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Sep 22, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Christian also went 2 for 3 against Kershaw on Tuesday.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 22, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d take that 2 for 3 and be happy we got anything. also, Fontenot is dead to Bochy.

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Christian’s batting line is worse than Rowand’s was, and the SSS is kind of no relief there because that’s how we should expect him to hit. He’s been sub-bad-Torres. A good game should not earn him another start.

Of course, all of his bad games should not earn him starts, either. And they do. So…

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

“leading off for your 2012 Giants and playing CF, Subbad Torres!”

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really don’t want the people in charge of this team to make me decide that I don’t want to watch their product.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is why we can’t have nice things a rainy day fund.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand

It wasn’t his batting line that sucked as much as the fact that you knew under pressure he would flail at sliders out of the zone and be a cancer in the clubhouse. I think Christian deserves this look before he is released.

Go Giants

by Gianni on Sep 23, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

His batting line sucked.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keppinger:

“[W]ho is much, much worse than we thought he was”. In fairness, that’s probably one “much” too many. He is the illustration Webster’s puts in its dictionaries next to the definition of “mediocre”.

And yes (or no, depending on how you take it), Christian and Keppinger shouldn’t be the top of the lineup; but in truth if they’re in the lineup, what’s the fucking difference? White flag anyway.

De Rosa at 2B, Fontenot at SS, Torres in CF, at least that looks like you’re trying. If you’re not trying, stop playing real men and go to all scrubs. Use only meaningless relievers—well, ok, that part he did.

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by owlcroft on Sep 23, 2011 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Despite the lack of walks, Keppinger had played pretty well for the Giants until recently. Let’s not start saying he sucks because of a slump. He is what he is, and that’s why he bounces from team to team and mostly plays against lefties.

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Sep 23, 2011 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

And why he was an injury replacement

It’s not like he was “Plan A” at 2B

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Sep 23, 2011 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let me fix that for you

the top of the Giants lineup really, really sucks.

"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain

by EliminateMe on Sep 23, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to the games Saturday and Sunday and would really prefer not to have to watch the D-backs clinch, so if we aren’t gonna sweep, i really hope we lose tomorrow.

Never in doubt.

by TimLincecumIsGod on Sep 22, 2011 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Or just pretend you are in LA and leave early.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Sep 23, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate leaving games early but that is definitely preferable to watching the DBacks celebrate.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Sep 23, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pablo Sandoval, 2012 MVP. I’m calling it now!

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, for the Nationals.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Sep 23, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes!

FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUU DODGERS

by posey yaknowsy on Sep 22, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked this one too

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Sep 22, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I regret that I have but one rec to to give for this post.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Sep 22, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like I’ve found a new desktop wallpaper.

Wheeeeeeeeeeee.

by urea on Sep 22, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

*HOP* *HOP*

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Sep 22, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

please note

this one has 18 recs including mine, while the boring sanitized one has 0.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

NOW THIS I LIKE.

You should post more like this.

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Sep 23, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who would you choose as backup C for 2012, Sanchez or Stew? Keep in mind Sanchez can hit and his defense looks good.

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Not Sanchez

Needs time in the minor leagues.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Sep 22, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know who would be cool?

Yorvit Torrealba. Apparently Santiago Casilla is too valuable for that.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Sep 22, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was about the $3MM due to Torrealba? Either way, having just seen Posey go down and not sure if he’d be able to catch in 2012, not taking the insurance plan offered by TEX was a dumb move.

<3 Kanani Madison

by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would go with max ramirez

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by Nnamdi Asomugha on Sep 22, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

you could probably

even argue that that failure cost the Giants Neal and Wheeler. Because if they had a passable bat at C they could afford a bad one at SS, and the offense might not have looked so bad that they had to sell Wheeler.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

This goes along with my “Six Degrees of Buster Posey’s Injury Theory” in that part of what went wrong after his injury wasn’t just him being out for the season but the chain of events that him and Freddie’s injury led to. There’s a good chance we might never have seen Cabrera or Belt might have played more and so on and so forth

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

Huge mistake not pulling the trigger if that deal was truly on the table.

by lexluth7 on Sep 23, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

neither

although I hope Sanchez keeps developing. He’d make a nice backup as it appears he can actually hit the baseball.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stewart

And I do believe that you’ve biased your question, sir.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 23, 2011 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

lolwhitey

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by speckops on Sep 23, 2011 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

really though?

I really like Stewie but I think they can do better than a drag-bunting C.

Unless of course this is the roster move you make after the rum is gone and you’ve already signed all your ex-Mets. Ahoy there matey!

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't say I wanted him as a starter

But let him be the backup. He’s better than Whiteside, and Sanchez should start in the minors.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 23, 2011 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, I understood you, and I still think they can do better.

We may need to search for additional rum sources.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

600+ OPS

Hardly a drag bunting catcher. He looks better and more comfortable with the bat every day.

by HungryHunter on Sep 23, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that was fun while it lasted

Barring an act of God, I’ll see you all back here when the wheels start moving on some trades. Until then, I’m off to play the SWTOR beta and pretend 2011 never happened.

by Ian A on Sep 22, 2011 11:34 PM PDT reply actions  

anyone comment on this yet?
Contract talks with Tim Lincecum might be Job One for the Giants this winter, and though Lincecum said he would listen to whatever the team has to say, he told The Chronicle on Thursday he is not keen on locking himself into a long-term deal that would buy out future free-agent years.

In one bit of good news for Freak fans, Lincecum said his criminal lack of run support in San Francisco will not factor into his thinking.

“I don’t think it has to do with the offense,” Lincecum said when told that San Francisco fans fear he and Matt Cain will bolt to teams that score more runs. Cain can file for free agency after next season.

“I just don’t know how I’m going to feel five years from now, or three years. That’s why I’d kind of like to take things step by step and why I liked the deal I got last year.”

“It all depends on how they come after me,” he said. “If it’s aggressive, obviously I want to take that into consideration and talk about it with my agent and see what he thinks is good. I haven’t dismissed anything.”

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/22/SPM81L89DP.DTL

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by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Translation: Overpay me in a long term deal, and I’ll swallow whatever putrid lineup you put out there in support of me.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 22, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

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by Nnamdi Asomugha on Sep 23, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s never been sexier to me than he is right now. SUBTLE THREATS ♥

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by shanghaijim on Sep 23, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody leaves a team because they don’t get run support.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Sep 22, 2011 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beltran…

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Sep 22, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he isn’t even a pitcher… that’s how selfish he is

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Sep 22, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chasm?

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Sep 22, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course…. combined with declining wit after being woken up at 230am by my 18 month old son

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by calgiants86 on Sep 23, 2011 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

he’s a little urchin at the bottom of the ocean…

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by giant4life83 on Sep 22, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

El Person is right

Lincecum is not going to make his decision based on that. I do worry about him going to Seattle. I think perhaps he stays in a cool weather city – which obviously helps. His first FA contract is going to be huge. So I understand him wanting to let it play out.

by lexluth7 on Sep 23, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

yet you can’t but help wonder how much the fact he’s 13-13 despite having a great season doesn’t stick in his craw enough to dream of pinstripes

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Over my dead body"

He ain’t going to NYC.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 23, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

It wouldn’t bother me much if he signed with the Mariners. I can understand why he would want that.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Sep 23, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's playing it cool & breezy

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by ResDog on Sep 23, 2011 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

This has been Tim's position from Day 1

Also, Tim assumes a lot of risk taking this stance. Better him than the team.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know it's late...

But that video reminds me of how I try to square dance.

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by extavernmouse on Sep 22, 2011 11:55 PM PDT reply actions  

My goodness.

I don’t think I’ve been to a square dance in . . .hm, wow, almost half a century. Used to enjoy it a lot back in college days, when we would follow the informal northeast circuit. I can even now picture, and almost recall the name of, the guy who used to be the fiddler and caller at almost all of those.

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by owlcroft on Sep 23, 2011 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Off-topic

owlcroft, if you haven’t seen this blog before, I think it’s the sort of thing that might interest you.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Sep 23, 2011 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

I have a vague feeling I’ve seen it before, probably from links elsewhere, but it looks worth regular following.

Lets’ trade: ever visited the Ambiente Hotel?

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by owlcroft on Sep 23, 2011 2:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

where did you come from

where did you go?

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

cotton-eyed joe morgan

Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's

by The Gene Hackman on Sep 23, 2011 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stay classy Philly

geez

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Sep 23, 2011 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Game was being played in Ontario

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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 23, 2011 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oops!

Stay classy Philly Ontario
geez

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Sep 23, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still

Fuck Philly

For the thirteen time in 3 or one evers, I found myself toothlessly thinking about Manny Ramirez.

by camwoody on Sep 23, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOLGiants

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by garbanzo24 on Sep 23, 2011 12:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the ride Giants

see ya next year……….

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by luved the stick on Sep 23, 2011 12:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Wait wait

Bruce Bochy let Zito pitch to Matt Kemp?

LOL LOL

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by DFARowand on Sep 23, 2011 4:59 AM PDT reply actions  

to be fair

once the rally in the 8th died, that was the end.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

The season was over in August

It’s still bad managing

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by DFARowand on Sep 23, 2011 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

GAme was over

There letting Zito get a few innings before the year is out. So far he’s pitched in two blow outs. If the Giants were in the game it would have been bad managing. Mop up is mop up.

by lexluth7 on Sep 23, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even though I’ve never thought we had a chance these past couple of weeks, Bruce Bochy did, so why the hell did he bring in Edlefsen in a must win game? I wanted him to take Bumgarner out because it wasn’t his night, but even an off Mad Bum is better than Edlefsen. It was still a game at that point, why use your concede the game section of the bullpen? I’ve never understood Bochy’s lack of patience with young hitters compared to his complete faith in young pitchers, regardless to whether they have any skill or not. Brian Sabean really needs to take away all of Bochy’s untalented toys after this season, because he really never knows when he should play with them.

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Sep 23, 2011 6:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Just to add. Does Bochy know why Edlefsen and Joaquin are here? Let me enlighten him. Edlefsen was called up when they had a rash of reliever injuries, because he was on the 40 man roster and they didn’t want to place anyone on waivers. He was NOT called up because of merit. Joaquin had a clause in his contract that he had to be added to the 40 man by a certain date or released. That’s why he’s here. Neither earned their way to the majors by pitching well, and shouldn’t be anywhere near a mound on what the manager considers a vital game. Schulman called it “all hands on deck” after Bumgarner was pulled, and for once he was right. However when it’s an all hands on deck situation, that means you use setup men earlier, closers in a non closing situation, and even starters if you have to. Bochy, however, used mop up men! Idiot !!!

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Sep 23, 2011 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea.

I really don’t.

Saving them for the “big series” at AZ, maybe?

I have no idea.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

This bugged me too

It’s like he waived the white flag

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Sep 23, 2011 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s so dumb because then they’re like “Well, I have to have Sergio for the 8th / Ramirez for the 7th / whatever” and it’s like IF YOU USE EDLEFSEN AND JOAQUIN RIGHT NOW, THERE WILL BE NO NEED FOR RAMIREZ IN THE 7TH AND SERGIO IN THE 8TH.

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by jponry on Sep 23, 2011 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was Mota unavailable?

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

he'd thrown 1 inning and 20ish pitches the day before

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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Sep 23, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah. A 10 pitch AB to some jerkface.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's called "Leverage", but . . .

. . . apparently Bochy thinks that’s just a cable-tv show.

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by owlcroft on Sep 23, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he knows its over

Seeing how these guys react to real situations. They are going to have some big questions relating to the bullpen nextyear. Getting a small glimpse of how these guys do is worth something.

by lexluth7 on Sep 23, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Edlefsen is not the pitcher you’re looking for, unless he’s pitching for the opposition.

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by speckops on Sep 23, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, the dude has a 6.3 K/9 and a 4.1 BB/9 in AAA this year. You can’t drink enough moonshine to convince yourself that he’s the answer.

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by speckops on Sep 23, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh

Edlefsen’s not good, but it’s not really fair to point to his AAA numbers this season, when he was mostly injured, as evidence that he sucks. You can do that by being fair to him and posting his 2009-10 Fresno numbers, when he had 7.1 K/9 and 4.8 BB/9.

I don’t know what it is with the Giants and relievers who can’t throw strikes.

by taliesin on Sep 23, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

If walks don’t matter for batters, walks don’t matter for pitchers.

by Evan on Sep 23, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, they lost, but how LOOSE were they?

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by GiantPain on Sep 23, 2011 6:53 AM PDT reply actions  

They were tight last night because they thought that they were starting to get back in this thing.™ You couldn’t tell? That’s why they didn’t score many runs.

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by speckops on Sep 23, 2011 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then they were out of this thing, and Zito was in this thing, and then the ball was out of this thing.

I really wonder what the hell they’re going to do with him.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

4 Ser Kamp, 5 Zits

Trade Sanchy. Or fuck it, sign CC.

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by speckops on Sep 23, 2011 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pat was plenty loose last night.

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by ResDog on Sep 23, 2011 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL!

My hubby, who actually watched that travesty, said this morning, "all you have to do is watch last night’s game and compare it to the night before to understand the meaning of “pressing.” I’m sure they were pressing, but I’m guessing the outcome also had something to do with letting Zito and Edlefsen pitch.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 23, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw had a tightening effect…

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I know this goes agaisnt everything you are supposed to believe in as a giants fan

But i’m kind of rooting for matt kemp to win the triple crown
I mean it sucks that it would go to a dodger
but I want to see a triple crown winner in my lifetime

Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man

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by operation carrot on Sep 23, 2011 7:00 AM PDT reply actions  

So do I. That’s why I’ll root for a Giants player to do it next year.

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Sep 23, 2011 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

boo

And may I add, hiss.

Let him win the RBI title.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

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by ResDog on Sep 23, 2011 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

/flagged

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 23, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s still suffering from the after effects of his car accident… give him a break.

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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Sep 23, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Daily News

Their article recapping the Yankees- Rays game last night didn’t mention Matt Moore even once! You would at least think they would be speculating on the minor league players they could trade for him after the season, or signing him in six years as a free agent.

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Sep 23, 2011 7:04 AM PDT reply actions  

they're probably busy mourning

Dellin Betances.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Come on Rays / Cardinals

Make things interesting!

I’m going to the Nats game tonight. Strasburg!

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 23, 2011 7:15 AM PDT reply actions  

lol clank
Tigers manager Jim Leyland said Miguel Cabrera would play third base and Victor Martinez would be at first base in National League parks should the team make the World Series.

The Tigers have already begun giving Cabrera ground balls in order to get re-acclimated to the position. Miggy, of course, has played a ton of games at third base in his career, but he hasn’t done so regularly since 2007, and he was a much slimmer man back then. “I’m not dumb enough to put the cart before the horse,” Leyland said, “but you’ve got to make plans. Common sense says, if given the chance, I won’t lose Victor Martinez’s and Miguel Cabrera’s bat. You can’t lose one because then you lose both. I’m just trying to make sure we are prepared.”

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by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 7:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Didn’t they lose in 2006 because of LOLCLANK?

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by ResDog on Sep 23, 2011 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of the 22 runs the Cardinals scored in the five WS games against the Tigers, only 14 of them were earned runs. 8 errors in 5 games by the Tigers.

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by ResDog on Sep 23, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh.

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by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of those were on pitcher errors, right?

I seem to recall two different pitchers inexplicably throwing to third instead of second on come-backers, and both times they threw it away.

by taliesin on Sep 23, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd still do it

Like Leyland says, you don’t want to take those bats out of the lineup.

Plus, I think Leyland is smarter than all of us

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Sep 23, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Counterpoint

Vlad Guerrero in RF at AT&T.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for making this point. Not just because it is correct, but it reminds me of sitting 20 rows from Vlad during the World Series when that happened. Sheer bliss.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought of that when I typed it

But is Cabrera going to be as bad at 3B as Vlad was in RF? I doubt it?

The thong is, it happened.

by Goofus on Sep 23, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That'll be pretty funny

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 23, 2011 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

suck it

CLOWNBALLERS!

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

then i hope the brewers make the world series too

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by jponry on Sep 23, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

We gotta shift Prince to shortstop!

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 23, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

MAGGLIO AT 2B

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

We should use this image more

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m disturbed by the symbolism.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 23, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Barbed wire – OUCH!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 23, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. It was Ren & Stimpy, so what do you expect?

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best cartoon ever!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 23, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 23, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

That hot dog has a giant erection.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm.

This reminds me of something, but I can’t tell what.

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Sep 23, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, what does this even mean?

“You can’t lose one because then you lose both”? Are they conjoined twins?

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by EliminateMe on Sep 23, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Begin Rosterbating!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 7:48 AM PDT reply actions  

I need some kind of stimulation first.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here, take this copy of the baseball almanac and go into a stall at the McC bathroom.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baggs speculating on possible Dodger MVP/Cy combo

Has happened 27 times in history.

Notable from his list:

2002 A’s (Tejada, Zito): 103-59, 1st

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by drdata24 on Sep 23, 2011 7:50 AM PDT reply actions  

also in there

Baggs remembers Bumgarner after Game 5 last year saying he wanted to soak in every second because the future is uncertain.

So after his start Thursday and his postgame comments, as the reporters filed away, I asked Bumgarner about what he said 11 months ago in Texas. Is this — all the injuries, all the disappointment, all the bad luck, the regression, the awful breaks and writhing in pain — what he meant?

"Everything, pretty much," he said. "I had an idea. I knew it wouldn’t be easy to get back. But I never thought we’d have a year go like this. I don’t know how many guys went on the DL. It just seemed everything that could go wrong went wrong. But we know nobody’s feeling sorry for us. We can’t feel sorry for ourselves."

Such a mensch. If once can refer to a Carolina boy as a “mensch”.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner

by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's a keeper

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- A. Bartlett Giamatti

by drdata24 on Sep 23, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

For shiz.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 23, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Love him.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 23, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is it about Dodger blue that makes CYA + MVP = Suck?

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

To add my piece on the whole Pill thing...

Pill? Sure, whatever. He won’t be good, in all likelihood, but I don’t mind giving him the chance to be useful.

But Christian? WTF? It actually does not make sense, unless you subscribe to mindgames, to take at bats away from a 33-year-old player with a .630 OPS in order to give them to Christian. That he’s been leading off for this team has made it very difficult to enjoy thinking about the Giants lately.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:03 AM PDT reply actions  

I assumed they were throwing him a chance to show what he has left for next year.

by Hyoton on Sep 23, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would they need to give Christian a chance to show them what he can do, though? There’s been no indication, from his minor league career to his current major league stint, that he can do.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because he hit well in like 1/2 or 1/3 of a year at AAA. Hey, I didn’t say it was a good idea, just that there is no guarantee of permanence…

by Hyoton on Sep 23, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

What are his splits

In the AB’s I’vde seen he looks pretty good versus lefties and awful versus righties. Thus, if he hangs next year (and Torres comes back) perhaps you have a platoon at the leadoff spot. At least both of them can run and play defense.

Not saying I want this. But it might be in their thinking.

by lexluth7 on Sep 23, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have his minor league splits, but in 2011 with the Giants his line against lefties is adequate. Against righties, as you suggest, it is putrid.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Showcasing?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 23, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weren’t you saying the same thing about Andres Torres at this point in 2009, though?

by Evan on Sep 23, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

The irony is not entirely lost on me.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Torres hit the snot out of the ball in 2009 though.

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by speckops on Sep 23, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but going by recent minor-league performance, Christian is as deserving of a shot now as Torres was then.

by Evan on Sep 23, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t try to get me crossed up between irony and hypocrisy. I don’t think it’s bad practice to assume that somebody with Christian’s track record (or with Torres’s track record prior to 2009) is the last jigsaw piece in a puzzle depicting a bad experiment. And, tortured analogies, aside, I don’t think that Torres giving me one example where it worked out, at least for a year, changes that.

It’s true: I may be the biggest Torres fan out there now. In part, because of what I think he’s capable of and, in part, because he’s such an inspiring sort of person.

But the fact that what happened with him did doesn’t change my perception that it almost certainly won’t if you try it again.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tortured syntax aside, too. “The fact of what happened with him….”

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ack, no. It was okay the first time.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree with that. I remain curious about whether the Giants’ interest in Torres was scouting genius or dumb luck, because development like his is rare indeed.

by Evan on Sep 23, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they're sane . . .

. . . (I know, I know) they’re auditioning him for 2012 5th outfielder, taking the former Rowand role. At a very offhand opinion, he’d probably be ok for that role (but nothing more).

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by owlcroft on Sep 23, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a preview of baseball in the era of the Rainy Day Fund. Pill and Christian are up and playing now because Sabean and Bochy are morons; not because of the RDF. However, these are the types of players we can expect to see on a regular basis because of the RDF. Sure, there will be odd gritty vet thrown in to impress the KNBR callers, but the Giants will be giving everyone on the Island of Misfit Toys the chance to play at the big league level.

Taking chances on the likes of org filler like Pill or Christian will be the new reality. Not even close to the best way to win ballgames, but at least it will be interesting to see some of guys we have been reading about in the Minor Lines posts over the last couple of years.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

It will be interesting to see some of them. But at this point, my teamview can only support its shock that the Edgar Gonzalez era never took flight in 2011.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where have you gone, Brad Eldred?

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

yup

It’s an audition to see if they are sufficient or if upgrades like Doug Mientkiewicz and Gary Matthews Jr. are necessary.

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by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s sort of my question, though: What about Justin Christian calls for that kind of audition?

If it were Hollywood, and another team were in this equation, the audition would only be going this long because the casting director fell asleep.

But this is Hollywood, and the Giants are the left side of the equation, so the casting director is going, “Excuse me. Yeah. I was just wondering if, well, you would mind reading for another role. Yeah, forget ‘Man Buying Milk’. Try these lines instead. Yes. Yes, those lines. No, I’m not mistaken. Yes, I know that’s the lead. Please. I just want to see. There’s just something about you.”

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's hard to type when I laugh

or maybe I’m crying.

Anyway, the qualification is the pricetag. And indy film producers are not above doing exactly what you have speculated about there. Think of the Giants as 20th Century Fox, handing scripts for Avatar II to baristas to see if they “have what it takes”.

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by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

And now that it’s on my mind, this might be the least fun I’ve ever had paying attention to the Giants. The combination of roster decisions and play-time distribution has just been depressing on a day-to-day basis.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow, really?

That was 2007 for me, but I’ll definitely be unhappy if they economize by dumping Torres and replace Ross with someone more expensive and no better (or worse).

Hope all is well with you and you’re just busy with school.

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by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am busy as can be. Cool things going down at Mills. This pilot composition program we’re running is apparently a big fucking deal.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, then it’s convenient the season will be over and you won’t miss anything.

I forget what I did in October 2009.

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by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t been paying attention. I recommend it.

by Evan on Sep 23, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

MOTORIN'

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by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re really trying to make MOTORIN’ happen, aren’t you.

by Evan on Sep 23, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been doing that since Christian's first SF Giants AB

And I won’t stop even though my GF really wishes I would.

by taliesin on Sep 23, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s streets ahead.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

SHOUTOUT
jonahkeri jonahkeri
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by DFARowand on Sep 23, 2011 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

According to the Red Cross, there are now more obese people on Earth than undernourished people.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 8:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Progress!

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eradicate hunger! Increase diabetes!

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by shanghaijim on Sep 23, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take that result.

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by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m pretty sure fat people are happier than starving ones. You never hear the phrase “emaciated and happy.”

by taliesin on Sep 23, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just hope all those fat people don’t sink guam.

by Hyoton on Sep 23, 2011 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have unpacked this, and have decided that this is anti-pacific islander racism.

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by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is anti-Hank Johnson racism.

by Hyoton on Sep 23, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stupid Dodgers.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 23, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

And the Galoots shall inherit the Earth…

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The meek are very pleased to learn this.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 23, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

But what about the meek galoots?

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by rotorueter on Sep 23, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meloots!

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by natteringnabob on Sep 23, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

They shall catch for the Braves.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 23, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

By volume?

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Nah, it is actually by number.

1.5 billion galoots to 925 million Manute Bols.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

What was that Disney movie with the fat people in hovercars with tvs attached?

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 23, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you’re thinking of the Pixar film Wall-E.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

My estrogen-depleted brain thanks you!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 23, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Herbie: Fully Loaded”

by Hyoton on Sep 23, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lemonade Mouth

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by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fantasia

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Fievel Goes South

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by jhiat00 on Sep 23, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Up

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Sep 23, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Herbie: Fully Loaded” was the “Lindsey Lohan just got breast implants” movie, the one where Disney got a little freaked out about the fact the ads for it were a little too PG-13 for the intended audience

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 23, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great run

For all of our pissing and moaning its been a great run. They at least died hard as defending champs with that 8 game streak (albeit against dogs).

Injuries killed this team. They played through them for a while (albeit on smoke and mirrors) but they eventually caught up. The problem with losing a Posey is the impact it has on the lineup as a whole. Would Huff had been so awful if he had Posey around? Would Torres have pressed so horribly?

Losing Sanchez obviously was also impt – but Posey was the absolute killer.

Add the fact that Pablo missed a month and then couldn’t hit right handed for a month, Beltran got hurt for a crucial three weeks, Burrell missed most the season, Nate the last month and a half, etc etc etc.

I realize I’m stating the obvious. But given the issues – at least they stayed marginally in it through mid Sept.

by lexluth7 on Sep 23, 2011 8:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Yup

Beltran’s injury alone could have been the difference between the playoffs or not. So many things went wrong this season, but they hung pretty tough

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by Goofus on Sep 23, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's bizarre.

Even with the actual on-field play to date, luck has been so crucial. The Snakes are 9 wins ahead of where they should be, and the Giants are 4 wins ahead, for a luck-caused net of +5 wins for the Snakes. This is not what based on what players “should have done”: it is based on the actual team stats laid down between the white lines so far in 2011. The Giants would normally, with their and the Snakes’ actual numbers, right now be one game back.

(If we do look at “what they should have done” based on careers to date, the Giants ought to be one game out behind the Bums, not the Snakes.)

And if they had had Posey all season, they’d probably be 3 wins better, putting them in first by two games by either measure. And maybe more, because the Posey injury alone arguably had ripple effects all down the line. And that’s not even touching on all the other injuries. My, oh my, what a year.

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by owlcroft on Sep 23, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is another front page post.
Some people are there, some people are here…
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/9/23/2444439/the-next-moneyball-seven-movies-that-hollywood-should-consider#comments

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by Merope on Sep 23, 2011 8:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Man, I tried following OGC on twitter but he gets around the 140 character limit by posting 140 sequential tweets in a row.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 8:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Haha

I tweeted something about that the other day.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 23, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what got me wondering… but I had to unfollow. Dude’s got brainorrhea.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 23, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey sometimes that’s the only way to show how disturbed you are!!

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by shanghaijim on Sep 23, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re Huff's season

I’ve been trying to think of another player who had so many soul-sucking, murderous grounder/double-play grounders in one season. I’m not an encyclopedic fan by any means; but his appearance in the last couple of games has really got me asking, Has another player ever been THIS bad at the plate and gotten so many at-bats?

I’m sure the answer must be yes, I just can’t think of who. Even players who struggled mightily post-big-contract, such as Marvin Benard, seemed to mix their dead ABs with the occasional pop, the random game-changer. Hell, Ishikawa did a few things here and there.

And I LIKE Huff, as a person, and recognize what he did for us last season. But it’s almost as if he goes up there intent on failing, like it’s some kind of psychological tic. I’ve certainly seen other athletes do something like this, but not so consistently, and I haven’t seen them given SO MANY chances to do the same thing over and over and over. (Other than the fluke-y St. Louis series…)

Seriously, I know some of you guys would remember if there’s another Giant who’s had a similar season; but I sure as shit can’t recall any. Maybe I’m mentally blocking it.

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by thebeliever on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Maybe not yet, but they will next year, after they sweep us this weekend.

The Diamondbacks still annoy me, mind you, but they don’t have the Padres/Rockies annoyance factor just yet, not close.

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by bigboneded on Sep 23, 2011 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

nah....

I watched them clinch in SF 10 years ago or so, and yeah it sucked….but it’s nowhere near the annoyance of the Dodgers, Padres, or Bums.

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