Post-game thread: Giants explode for run against Kershaw, but Lincecum shelled for two runs
by Grant Brisbee on Sep 20, 2011 10:47 PM PDT
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There really isn't any rhyme or reason to this Kershaw/Lincecum thing. Kershaw has been better than Lincecum this year, but it's not like the difference between Justin Verlander and Brad Penny. They've both been fantastic. Kershaw has an ERA just over 1.00 against the Giants this year; Lincecum's is just under 2.00 against the Dodgers.
The Giants couldn't beat Kershaw this year. Doing so would have triggered some Doc Brown nonsense where your mother never met your father. When Lincecum faced Kershaw, it was Lincecum who would allow the solo home run or two-out hit at the wrong time. Kershaw would do nothing of the sort, and he'll probably win the Cy Young because of it. Almost 20% of his starts this season came against the Giants. Against the teams that aren't the Giants, his ERA is 2.54. Lincecum's season ERA is 2.59.
The difference between Lincecum and Kershaw this season is that Lincecum didn't get to face the Giants.
Oh, there's more to it than that, I know. But the numerical symmetry is just too laughable to ignore. It was great that the Giants exploded for all of those runs in Colorado -- really, that was fun. But they're still on place to be a historically awful offense. They're on pace for 570 runs this year. Fewer than any non-strike year since moving to San Francisco. Fewer than the 1885 Giants, who played 112 games, and fewer than the 1985 Giants, the only team in franchise history to lose 100 games.e
That's the reason the team will go home in October, hopefully to sit in a corner and think about what they did. That's the reason Clayton Kershaw will win the Cy Young. That's the reason Tim Lincecum might finish under .500 for the season.
This game was another eye-opener. In a world in which Cody Ross, Pat Burrell, Pablo Sandoval, Buster Posey, and Freddy Sanchez are all injured, this was the Giants' lineup. Remember: last year, the Giants crushed lefties, mostly because of those names up there. About 350 days later, and you have Mark DeRosa hitting cleanup and Brett Pill hitting fifth. I'd complain about Justin Christian and Chris Stewart, but they combined for two-thirds of the Giants' hits tonight.
This was a keep-Cody game. It's not like he's the difference in this game, but he's a hitter who can crush lefties. The Giants are light on those, and it's so danged obvious when Ross isn't in the lineup. Kershaw probably won't be traded for some T-bonds in the offseason, so the Giants should probably think about how they can hit lefties next year. They'll get players back from injury, sure, but it wouldn't hurt for them to be a little proactive on this front.
Also, the Giants should think about getting some better hitters.
There are discouraging games, and there are Dodger wins that seriously harm the chances for the Giants to make the playoffs. Can't get that stink out with a little Lava soap. Not at all.
I hear Scottsdale is lovely in March.
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I've been wearing grooves in the floor
standing in this line.
NorCal passion trapped in SoCal pain...
I wanna rage.
same here
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Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
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Poor Timmy
That shot of him looking away from the field after the Giants’ 8th inning rally died was just too sad.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
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by achiappanza on Sep 21, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
nah
He’s one of the best players in the universe. He gets paid a lot of money. And he’s just about at the point where he can buttonhole Cain and Bumgarner and have a little meeting with Sabean.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Cy Young
Cy Young
WS MVP
-
Down year
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Rent was WS MVP.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
From numerous wikis … he won the Babe Ruth award last year:
The Babe Ruth Award is an annual award given to the Major League Baseball player with the best performance in the World Series, similar to the World Series MVP Award.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Babe Ruth Award is this thing recognizing the best/most valuable player over the whole postseason, which I think Timmy definitely deserved.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL BELT
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 20, 2011 10:52 PM PDT reply actions
ugh
it’s so depressing to see the lineup an hour before the game and KNOW that we are going to lose despite tim being on the mound…but BORK
also LOLBELT
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The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
and STILL watch the game knowing you are wasting the evening.
by Daver321 on Sep 20, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Short of replacing half the roster with guys who can actually hit, I don't see what he could have done to avert this.
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Sit O.Cab. Play Belt (even if only pinch hitting instead of Huff.)
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Saw that lineup and thought...
No way they can score a run, not with 5 automatic outs. But they DID, and the run producer was Chris Stewart. Never woulda thunk it.
fred71510
It would almost make me mad at this point
Like, you’re doing this now? Something about barn doors and horses….
You can lead a horse to a barn door but you cant make him eat it.
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I think that's
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Sabean loves his experience
/Giants sign to a 2 year, $22 million extension.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I can see you know your Sabean.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 20, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is this where we can continue argueing that Tejada is better than OCab?
Because, you know, it’s one of the more important debates around here.
Well, it's not as important as Pie v. Cake
Or whether Rush sucks.
Rush does suck. Although, I did enjoy Geddy Lee singing on Bob and Doug McKenzie’s “Take Off”.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
There are so many things wrong with this statement. Well, ok, there are 2 things wrong with this statement.
I liked SCTV back in the day.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Bob and Doug
The McKenzie Brothers were brillliantly stupid. That’s an art, but it did go on too long.
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-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html
by achiappanza on Sep 21, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Tom Sawyer would like to disagree with you
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 20, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Geddy Lee's voice drives me crazy,
but Neal Peart is one of the most talented drummers of his generation.
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No, he was right. Peart is incredibly talented.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
And while his professional like has been very successful, his personal life was pretty crappy for a while.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Freddy Sanchez career vs. LHP: .342/.383/.489
He’s basically Tony Gwynn against lefties. Jesus. I miss that guy.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 10:56 PM PDT reply actions
Not really
I think he’s rated. People over-value his high batting average, but probably don’t give him enough credit for his D.
He really was
Kudos for getting the spelling right there.
so you think he's overrated offensively, underrated defensively?
how quickly we forget what everybody thought of the giant lineup last season
well, FORMER BATTING CHAMP FREDDY SANCHEZ is pretty lolz
But I think a lot of people undervalue his platoon split. I knew he hit lefties, but Grant’s mention made me look him up. Damn. That’s pretty numbers for a +D 2B.
I’m really hoping for some arrangement next year that gives Freddy regular days off without the Jeff Keppinger Singles Parade being the only alternative.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Frodo would be good for that role
But I’m pretty sure he’s gone, so….
Also I think you’re getting ahead of yourself assuming that Freddy’s going to need days off. This feels like the DeRosa situation all over again.
frodo's another guy who never got going this season
he’s a better player than what he’s shown
Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by the DeRosa comparison
Do you mean to say Freddy’s going to be pretty much a non-entity next year and they need a full-time 2B?
Oh, and Frodo would be perfect for the utility/platoon role, assuming a righty bat can be acquired this offseason. I hope they’re smart enough to keep him.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That's my fear
It wouldn’t be that surprising if he’s just done. When a guy starts getting multiple surgeries on the same body part, it’s not good.
I was going to make a joke earlier where I said Sanchez will be back on opening day and be on the DL April 24th.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I think this was his OTHER shoulder, right?
I mean, yeah, hopefully someone is on the roster who can pass for a major league second baseman if Freddy is done. I’m just assuming for the purposes of this Freddy Sanchez subthread that Freddy Sanchez can play baseball. :D
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he'd had injuries to BOTH shoulders before
Maybe he’d never had surgery on this one though. It’s a research project.
Does anyone have a tool for this?
I found a Baggs article from last off-season talking about surgery on his left shoulder, but it also says that his right shoulder was injured, but was healing fine. (Or was it?) But I don’t know an easy way to find out if he might have had any injuries to that shoulder prior to joining the Giants.
isn't this the other shoulder?
i thought the first surgery was on his non throwing shoulder?
I was wondering why
Brian Sabean signed Freddy to another extension after only one game this season, when he had only played in 110 games the previous two years. Clearly he could have waited until the end of the season and got him for about the same price, maybe less? But hey, Sabean
The Jeff Keppinger Singles Parade would be a pretty damn good backup though.
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sure
But he can’t really play any other positions and off the bench he’s basically the same lefty-masher as Freddy with much weaker numbers against righties. Not much of a utility-man.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll gladly take singles parade > striking out/GIDPs.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Yeah but
He actually kinda sucks against righties. The Fontenot-Sanchez platoon has been a dream of mine for many moons.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
eh career .309 wOBA against righties
He’s not a black hole. Obviously Fontenot hits righties better, but if you wanted to keep Freddy’s defense out there or play Fontenot at short it wouldn’t be a huge problem.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Eh?
Kepp’s fine. He’ll be useful off the bench next year I think. Maybe in ST they can figure out if he can play any other positions.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Keeping things in perspective
-Kershaw’s a great pitcher so it’s not a known that playing the Brandon’s would have made things different
-The Giants weren’t going to go 17-0 and were bound to lose at least once
-If Pablo is indeed really hurt and not at his full strength, this whole crazy idea of a run is over anyways as the team’s not going anywhere if he’s not at full strength. It’s over. It’s yet another sign that this season wasn’t meant to be.
-Community and Parks & Rec start on Thursday.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 20, 2011 10:59 PM PDT reply actions
agree with most of that
but I do believe that belt makes a difference in the 9th inning instead of old 4-3 huff
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2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
this too
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible, magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
WHY IS CABRERA?!?!
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
-I don’t like this kind of reasoning. We knew that Orlando Cabrera and Brett Pill and Justin Christian were not going to be good. Playing them is indefensible.
-Of course. They don’t have juiced balls.
-If this is how Pablo is when he’s hurt, then give me more injured Pablo.
-yesyesyesyesyeswooooooooooo (even if the plot for Community sounds stupid)
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Pablo’s fine hitting lefty, but his shoulder acts up hitting righty. It’s a weird situation and the kind of thing that’d really kill him in the playoffs.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Have him bat left-handed, then.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
by El Person on Sep 20, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
discussed a bit down-thread
It’s ironic that a switch hitter becomes so limited (instead of versatile) when an injury hampers one side. A straight left handed hitter can still bat against a LHP but I guess it’s too weird for a switch hitter to try it when they have spent their whole life not doing it. Still, I can’t help but think Pablo batting left handed tonight and playing defense is better than DeRosa.
He’s batted lefty against a lefty a few times this year since he got injured. He just can’t do anything with a breaking ball.
So it wouldn’t rule out Pablo batting against LHP, but it’d make the lineup even more vulnerable to lefty starters and loogies than it already is. Witness what Javier did to the Phillies last year.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
and if you’re in a situation when you basically have to close out by winning every game, it’s very, very, dicey. The Giants have no margin for error and that’s a huge error right there.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Not asking Pablo Sandoval to make a fool of himself by trying to do something incredibly difficult which he has virtually no experience doing (hitting a lefty from the left side of the plate) is a huge error?
Perhaps Bochy should have played him at shortstop as well.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
that
would have been an improvement.
Also, no one seems to be giving any props to Bochy for using a cleanup hitter who admits he can’t hit anything but singles. The one good RH bat they have was used as a pinch-hitter.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Half the team can’t do anything with a breaking ball…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
oh come now dood
1. watch them
2. wave at them
3. get hit by them, then wave at them
Well, I guess that’s it.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions
but my tv won't turn on
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
While I don't disagree with this,
what bothers me is that a manager who has drawn fire from time to time for “playing the hot hand” sat some hot hands against a pitcher who’s up for the CYA.
Playing the Brandons wouldn’t have been a guaranteed improvement, but it was worth the risk, especially with AZ falling to the Pirates.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
When Justin Christian and Chris Stewart are your offensive stars of the evening, you know it’s not a good game.
or
Batting 6th, Orlando Cabrera.
And the cleanup hitter who can’t hit a fly ball. Maybe that would be a good name for a Duane Decker book.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait so what is the status on Pablo?
Is he done for rest of the season? Or is he finishing off the season?
He's still playing
But he apparently can’t bat right-handed. So he’ll most likely be sitting again tomorrow.
It’s ironic that a switch hitter becomes so limited (instead of versatile) when an injury hampers one side. A straight left handed hitter can still bat against a LHP but I guess it’s too weird for a switch hitter to try it when they have spent their whole life not doing it. Still, I can’t help but think Pablo batting left handed tonight and playing defense is better than DeRosa.
Clayton Kershaw wants to save the world while also destroying the Giants
Some men just want to watch the Giants burn.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 20, 2011 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Also makes a purdy lady
He can do it all folks!
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 20, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
surely he belongs IN SF now with that dapper of an outfit
by big logs Johnson on Sep 20, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Because of teh gays, amirite?
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They were dressed by the Giants but conquered/saved by him. As you can tell from the photo, they are happy to be under his protection. He trully is the son of Krypton.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you put in the effort though?
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I completely, honestly did. And I really did hate him for a while. But then I learned of his work in Africa, and I began to respect him.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't feel the need to hate him
I think I’ll come around when he’s playing on the next good Dodgers team, though.
Missing the Boss
ahhhh Cody come back NOW
by big logs Johnson on Sep 20, 2011 11:05 PM PDT reply actions
Beltran statue
Every time he’s up in a clutch situation, I think of him in game 7 of the NLCS staring at strike 3.
by faust10 on Sep 20, 2011 11:07 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
When it really counts, Carlos Beltran can’t finish his nachos. He just leaves them on the table.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
fuck
I should have said “He just leaves them right out on the plate.”
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly you don’t care about the Giants community here.
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I know you just can’t play defense against these accusations.
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We gave up a heck of a prospect for you, and you’re not taking this blog to the next level.
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You know, if you really want me to produce with jokes, someone has to set the table.
I can’t put this blog on my back. Someone has to post a setup ahead of me so I can bring it home.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 20, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I want to pronounce your name LIES and perfidy even though it’s apparently lies and PERFIDY. I take this personally.
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Oh!
You refused to play defense on the other side of the blog to accommodate Every6thDay.
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I appreciated this whole sub thread.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions
hell no
he asks for a doggy bag, then walks past homeless guys holding it just out of their reach saying “MINE! MINE!”. Then he throws them away when he gets home- in a plastic trash bag.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions
My right shoulder hurts so I can only eat them left-handed.
If they’re served to me by a lefty waiter then DeRosa has to eat them for me.
I think about the fact that he's the best hitter on this team.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I love that Stewart got our random one run.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 20, 2011 11:07 PM PDT reply actions
Also bunt singles.
Nothing in between, though.
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing." -Jerry Reynolds
"He's gonna get a big hug, and I'm gonna hang on for a while." -Duane Kuiper
He has power and speed!
Quick, someone spin this to another GM so we can get something for him.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 20, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
His little "hot" streak to end the season
Has really closed the gap with Whiteside. .254 wOBA vs .263 for Eli. At this point I think it’s over for poor Eli.
Eli has played himself out of a job.
But at least we will always have him catching Sanchez’s no hitter. And his bunny hop fighting style.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 20, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
him getting an opportunity to have a career for himself is the one good thing that came out of the posey injury
except it would have been better if it it was allowed to happen before Eli stopped catching balls
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 20, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw was great tonight. Sometimes ::tipping your hat:: isn't ironic.
I like him. I hate that he plays for the Dodgers.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 PM PDT reply actions
With his off the field work, he’s hard to hate. He’s the complete opposite of Mat Latos.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Indeed.
Plus, he is better looking and spells his name correctly.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 20, 2011 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Seriously
Can’t he just demand a trade to, I don’t know, somebody in the AL Central or something?
Just not the Tigers.
A rotation containing him and Verlander would be insane. Kinda like the Phillies.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 20, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
He should go to Cleveland
The Indians really don’t have a whole lot going for them at the moment.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I didn't realize
Justin Masterson has actually been really good this year. WTF?
Same.
He’s also BFFs with Matthew Stafford, which is annoyingly cool.
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing." -Jerry Reynolds
"He's gonna get a big hug, and I'm gonna hang on for a while." -Duane Kuiper
Maybe. But no asthetic value whatsoever.
He has an ugly motion that I find displeasing. Especially when it acts as some form of Indian snake charmer on the Giants lineup.
Looking Towards Next Season
So many question marks, you really have no idea who’s gonna be on this team. I hope they keep the bullpen together, manage somehow to sign Beltran, I would like Ross back but, who knows.
Just give me Posey back
That’s all I ask. I can endure a lot as long as I get to watch a healthy Posey play catcher and hit dingers.
who will be on the team
Justin Christian.
Brett Pill.
Yuniesky Betancourt.
Aaron Rowand.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you think he'll call?
Maybe I should call him just in case… or would that seem desperate? I’ll wait a few days first. But what if he has the wrong number? I always mix up my own number… ack!!
by Natto on Sep 20, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
“How about if I wait six weeks to call. I could tell her I found her number while I was cleaning out my wallet, I can’t remember where we met. I’ll ask her what she looks like and then I’ll ask her if we fucked. How about that? Would that be money? "
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With Bork’s lineups, the Giants will always be at his mercy.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 20, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Would have been nice if Beltran at least took the bat off his shoulder in the 8th…at least Panda went down swinging. It was as if Beltran was saying, “screw this, I don’t want look bad swinging through those fastballs.”
Also, Jansen’s fast ball is fast.
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Sep 20, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
It was as if Beltran was saying, "screw this, I don’t want look bad swinging through those fastballs."
Yes. That is exactly what Beltran was saying.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Cool! I just guessed, but that’s awesome that I got it exactly right.
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Sep 20, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, he said it in Spanish, but that was the exact translation.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Well, the idiom is a little tricky, but that’s pretty much it.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Literally translated, he said “The pen of my uncle is on the table.”
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
by EliminateMe on Sep 21, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
As some old-time umpire . . .
. . . famed for this sort of thing, once chanted to a struck-out batter:
Young man, you will learn before you get much older
that you cannot get a hit with the bat upon your shoulder.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Bengie swung at that comment.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Rowand swung at it and missed.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That comment hit Nate as he swung at it.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
"It's a bad idea to swing at pitches you don't like, since you probably won't hit them and they might be balls, in which case you're better off taking them and maybe drawing a walk, which is important"
But that doesn’t rhyme, so I guess it isn’t true.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 21, 2011 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
What are you, Ted Williams or something?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Until you get to 2 strikes, of course
At which point you no longer have the luxury of swinging only at pitches you like. I’m totally fine with the first 3 pitches of that AB. Two painted mid-90’s strikes — tough to do anything with them, better just wait — followed by an apparently sharp-eyed take. It’s pitch #4 where I’m like WTF. The guys just threw six straight fastballs, five for strikes, and the last three of them at YOUR knees. As this one comes in looking very much like another fastball right down the middle at the knees, are you really sitting on something off-speed and surprised that, oh shit, it’s another fastball?!?
I love CB, but that was not a lovable moment.
Giants baseball: Together We're Crippled
by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless it’s a full count, says elcroata. Then it’s usually better to take the borderline pitch.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
He fucked up in that at-bat
He’s still one of the only guys on that team I’d trust in the future in an important at-bat, because he’s one of the only upper echelon hitters on the team.
Sandoval should have started.
Batting left vs. a left handed pitcher he would have still done better than oh I don’t know, Mark De Rosa?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFffff....
Every time I hear about Derek Holland being good this year, I can’t think of anything but 12 balls in 13 pitches.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
For our collective viewing pleasure
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
by El Person on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT SHIT
WE NEED MORE AGGRESSIVE BATTERS LIKE O-CAB WHO CAN MAKE 3 OUTS ON 6 PITCHES
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
Ball 4! Ball 8!
Low and away and he’s walked the bases loaded on 12 straight pitches! I don’t know how they can lay off pitches that close!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, I read that wrong at first.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Timmy
Asked if he appreciated the great matchups between him and Kershaw, Lincecum said, "A lot, just because he’s fun to watch. You obvously don’t try to get caught up in that. I’d rather see my offense doing a lot better against him than what’s been going on. There’s no boring moment in the game. He tends to keep the games close all the time now, it seems."
I asked him if he was already looking forward a shot to beat Kershaw in 2012, and he said, "For sure. Another thing is trying not to have double-digit-loss seasons like I’ve had back-to-back seasons now .That’ll be another goal of mine. I think it will be easy for me to reassess what my goals are in the offseason and make a pretty good chart, because I’m averaging a ton of pitches per game and a lot of walks. There are other things I’d like to get better at. With that, hopefully it will help all the other numbers."
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
OFFSEASON GOALS
1) Learn how to win.
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
That is Matt Cain's goal every year.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
And he fails every year.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Squirrel: Heath Hembree
Tactic to reach goal:
1) Sign with Yankees.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
by tobias on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
PROBLEM: High walk rate.
SOLUTION: Play for a team where he can pitch against the Giants.
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
I'd imagine the Dodgers could make room for him if he's willing to do it pro bono.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 21, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
BANNED
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I'm just saying, it's not like they could afford to pay him what he's worth, but if he wants the opportunity to pitch against the Giants that badly, y'know?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 21, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
BANNED
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Maybe he could make Mat Latos his sidekick, then.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 21, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
/flagged as a troll
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooooh! He's gonna make charts!
I hope there is a power point presentation to go with them
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe more of a gracious way to say his offense sucks
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
What a coincidence
I’d also rather see the offense doing a lot better.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
by EliminateMe on Sep 21, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
That Game sucked
I was not in a friendly place but it would have been cool if they scored another run. I was very pissed Cabrera was playing and tbh I am sooooooo happy Bochy didn’t use Belt, it was super smart of him to keep Belt on the bench and use Huff, why use one of the better hitters on the team with the game possibly in reach?
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Squirrel: Heath Hembree
that
Seems like something only the Brewers, DBacks, or Phillies fans can do.
The real Alley Oop:
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
The next person who blames CARLOS FUCKING BELTRAN is gettin stabbed in the eye.
Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
It was fun being World Champions
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
by tobias on Sep 21, 2011 12:23 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m sorry, i just can’t agree with blaming injuries to Burrel and Sanchez for the failure of this team. Losing Posey hurt a lot sure. But, this is squarely on Sabean and Bochy.
Just as I predicted at the beginning of the season, " Bochy will dicker away enough games to keep the Giants out of the playoffs this season. We can’t count on the Rockies and Dodgers being bad again and having that make up for Bochy’s poor regular season management."
Okay well, I was wrong about the Dodgers and Rockies. But I don’t watch them 150 games a year like I do the team that Bochy manages.
Over
by cybermaldonado on Sep 21, 2011 12:29 AM PDT reply actions
Yeah, honestly.
Its not hard to imagine Bochy being personally responsible for the amount of wins we will inevitably be short off.
Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Sep 21, 2011 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
of*
Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Sep 21, 2011 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Well that settles it. At least we won't have to have this discussion all winter...
via Andrew Baggerly
“Heard this: Ain’t no way Jose Reyes will consider signing with the Giants this winter.”
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 AM PDT reply actions
uhhhhh
from who?
reasons?
Also if this is true. DOUCHE
Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Sep 21, 2011 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Poor GiantPain
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 21, 2011 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
He’ll only fantasize even harder.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
If we take Omar Infante and Jamey Carroll and squish them together with a pinch of Furcal...
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
That sounds like a hideous mashup
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
OBP AND DEFENSE AND VETERAN GRIT
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
After reading that it kind of occurred to me that while we hear a bunch about how the park discourages hitters from signing here
this season it could actually be the fact that our offense is perpetually terrible and they know they would be shouldering an entire offense of the non-Pablo/non-Buster players.
Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
good, take your fucked up thyroid and you’re failtastic hamstrings and go sit on someone else’s dl.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
by Merope on Sep 21, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yes
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Squirrel: Heath Hembree
I’m imagining GP rending his own face in grief-stricken agony.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
well
Maybe we can afford both Beltran and Rollins? That’d be cool.
Rany Day Fund
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Jackson!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Rollins and Beltran would be an OK change
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Beltran LF
Posey C
Belt RF
Rollins SS
Huff 1B
Isn’t bad. Rollins still has a little pop in the bat, and he’s a good hitter for a shortstop period. And he’s a plus defender.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
if Rollins ends up in SF, he's batting leadoff
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That wouldn't be ideal
But it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world either.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It kind of sickens me that this offense, in addition to being historically terrible
is also going to basically be the reason that a Dodger wins the Cy.
Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
The baserunning
in this game was pretty poor. Getting picked off a few times really makes it difficult to score runs, especially going against a pitcher as good as Kershaw. It may not have mattered, but it definitely didn’t help.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
Well . . .
. . . if your manager is enamored of small-ball tactics, like the hit-and-run with no outs, these things will happen.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
That hit and run was called on a 1-1 pitch. Why the hell is Bochy so confident that Kepp will get something to hit at 1-1? As it turns out, it was not even close to hittable.
Giants baseball: Together We're Crippled
by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone keep hit-and-run statistics?
It seems like the Giants have been very unsuccessful with it this year – even more than you’d expect from a generally weak offense.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
This team seems to be lousy at base running (as they are in situational hitting or even basic baseball fundamentals). Even the Vroooommmm guys aren’t very good at it.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Which is why . . .
. . . they keep trying it. Einstein’s famous definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Well, Bochy seems, by that standard, to be insane. Whoulda thunk it?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Do the Giants still do the Fan Appreciation Day
On the last game of the year? I remember them giving away a bunch of shit all throughout the games.
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 21, 2011 6:18 AM PDT reply actions
next Wed.
oddly a day game. I mean, not odd for a Wed. but for the last game of the season. I think I’m going to try to take the day off and go.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
This year they’re giving out trips to the DL
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Steak knives?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Third prize is you’re fired! Hit the bricks pal!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
What about coffee? I just want some coffee…
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
PUT THAT COFFEE DOWN!
Such a great scene.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
COFFEE IS ONLY FOR BRIAN WILSON!!!
/Romo puts cup down…
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Wait... what?
Running right handed batters against a lefty Cy Young candidate smelled a lot like Dusty ball last night. Fuzzy math small ball. Real baseball logic dictates: send your hottest bats up there and fight to the death, regardless of what some mathematical stat on lefty vs lefty says. Would much rather have seen Sandoval take left-handed hacks against Kershaw last night along with other guys who sat on the bench, than the parade of 0-fors like DeRosa that Bochy ran out there last night. Cabrera? Glue factory. Why in the hell is this guy EVER in the lineup? Beltran? 2 for 4 amounted to nothing. Anybody who bought his jersey should be thinking about grabbing the gas can and a book of matches. He wants the Giants to “improve their offense”. Show him the door and that will surely happen. Most crucial series in a do-or-die scenario and somehow these slobs are on the field? A slumping Andres Torres would be used best as a pinch runner instead of Darren “deer in the headlights” Ford. And so on. And so on.
NEVER FORGET 2002. Dusty managed the Giants out of a world title with small-ball and consulting the baseball almanac for situational stats instead of going on instinct and guts.
Am I bitter? Yeah, just a little bit.
Justin Christian and Chris Stewart both went 2 for 3 last night. That’s the highlight.
BLISTERING BARNACLES!!! ANOTHER BLOWN SAVE!!!
I too would have liked to see Pablo at 3rd hitting lefty against Kershaw…. I do not think any of the Beat writers asked that question.
If Torres would be better used as a PR, then who would you rather be starting in CF?
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 21, 2011 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions
ANYBODY in CF with a livelier piece of hickory. Obviously the roster is slim pickings, but hoping a guy will suddenly break out of a long slump in a crucial game? Hmmm… Belt? He plays everywhere. Left to Center I’m sure he could handle it as long as nobody hit any deep deep gappers.
BLISTERING BARNACLES!!! ANOTHER BLOWN SAVE!!!
I'm going to be so angry if Cabrera is in the lineup tonight.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
uh oh
run wakethedragon.exe
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
/wraps all household breakables in bubble wrap.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
/walks around Merope’s house popping all the bubbles
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
With propelloring action?
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I was fuming at the game last night, I kept telling my dad there was no reason for him to be in the lineup, If I had to watch a shortstop not hit, I’d rather it be Crawford at this point.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Squirrel: Heath Hembree
I really don't understand
How anyone can justify him being in the lineup ever. It’s sad that a 50-something year old man who gets paid probably somewhere in the ballpark of a million dollars a year to assemble a team didn’t know he was a shitty player when somehow all of us, casual baseball fans that are for the most part younger and less experienced than him, did.
You had me until Beltran.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Agreed. Didn’t like him watching strike 3 in the 8th, but implying he shouldn’t have been in the lineup is just silly.
Giants baseball: Together We're Crippled
by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
He wants the Giants to "improve their offense". Show him the door and that will surely happen.
Carlos Beltran is hitting .338/.377/.556. as a Giant.
The Giants as a team have hit .240/.302/.366.
… you know how numbers work, right?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 21, 2011 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
this morning
I was reading a book on Portugal’s earliest history. Remember those bastards that invented 0? It’s their fault.
The Giants would have scored at least 1 run in every game if not for those math-bastards.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait, I thought that 0 was an Arabic invention?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Well sure. That’s who was in Portugal!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Got it. Was a little confused about when earliest history was. So this was during the Moorish reign of Iberia?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
That be it. I didn’t mean to imply otherwise.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought India beat them to that.
Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention.
Mark DeRosa is more than the sum of his tendons.
[…]
Oh Baghdad
Center of the world
City of ashes
With its great mosques
Erupting from the mouth of god
Rising from the ashes like
a speckled bird
Splayed against the mosaic sky
Oh, clouds around
We created the zero
But we mean nothing to you
You would believe
That we are just some mystical tale
We are just a swollen belly
That gave birth to Sinbad, Scheherazade
We gave birth
Oh, oh, to the zero
The perfect number
We invented the zero
And we mean nothing to you
Our children run through
the streets
And you sent your flames
Your shooting stars
Shock and awe
Shock and awe
Like some, some
Imagined warrior production
Twenty-first century
No chivalry involved
No Bushido
—Patti Smith Radio Baghdad
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
you know how numbers work, right?
Yes, but hitting for average and hitting when it counts are two totally different things. Sitting on a called third strike in the 8th last night pretty much negates his 2 hits in the game from a pure baseball perspective. The object of the game is to win. Aside from a few sparks in the 8-0 run the Giants had, Beltran wasn’t that much of a contributor. It’s just food for thought. He’s expensive, he’s old, and unfortunately Sabean bought into the sportswriters’ hype before the trade deadline and took a bad gamble. He doesn’t fit.
BLISTERING BARNACLES!!! ANOTHER BLOWN SAVE!!!
He is by far the best offensive player on the Giants. I believe your analysis of this situation suffers from a bit of confirmation bias.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps it’s just a misunderstanding. Maybe Beltran drives an automatic rather than a stick and has heard of this thing called a clutch? ;)
BLISTERING BARNACLES!!! ANOTHER BLOWN SAVE!!!
Beltran has a .913 OPS this year.
When hitting with runners in scoring position, he has a .957 OPS.
When hitting with runners in scoring position and two outs, he has a .945 OPS
All hitters hit better with runners in scoring position. But you shape your idea of “clutch” to be whatever situation the player you don’t like failed to get a hit in.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
BUT WHAT'S HIS OPS WITH RUNNER IN SCORING POSITION IN THE LAST 5 GAMES THAT HE'S STRUCK OUT SMART GAI?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Yes, but hitting for average and hitting when it counts are two totally different things.
They aren’t. It just random fluctuation.
Sitting on a called third strike in the 8th last night pretty much negates his 2 hits in the game from a pure baseball perspective.
It really doesn’t. Beltran got hits in half his at bats last night. The fact that he didn’t do it precisely when you wanted him to doesn’t mean anything. Landing on tails doesn’t negate the times that the coin lands on heads.
The object of the game is to win.
Yes.
Aside from a few sparks in the 8-0 run the Giants had, Beltran wasn’t that much of a contributor.
The guy hitting above .300 with patience and power = not that much of a contributor. OK. Let me get that down in my notebook.
It’s just food for thought.
No, it isn’t. You’re saying that removing Beltran would improve the offense. That is a definite argument that you are advancing. It is completely wrong, and you can’t just run away from how wrong it is by saying that it’s just “food for thought”. It is rancid, rotten food that no one should eat, and it would make the team worse if you ate it.
He’s expensive, he’s old, and unfortunately Sabean bought into the sportswriters’ hype before the trade deadline and took a bad gamble. He doesn’t fit.
If you think that really good hitters don’t fit with the Giants, be prepared for more years of terrible offenses.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 21, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
This was awesome.
It is rancid, rotten food that no one should eat, and it would make the team worse if you ate it.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I think
he’s talking about natto.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Lutefisk!
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
by EliminateMe on Sep 21, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
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Norwegians eat bacalao too! In fact it was my favorite dish in Norway!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
But there they just call it salt cod.
WHAT IS DEAD CAN NEVER DIE
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
But rises again harder and stronger
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definitely applies to salt cod
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
wat
It’s bacalao on the menus. You can spot it in the restaurants because it’s the only thing cooked in tomato sauce that contains spices other than salt.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
WHAT. what is this. I blame European integration.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
you should
but in this case it’s Hanseatic League integration!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Baluto
And they should talk like Popeye’s nemesis.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Valid points. All I’m saying is don’t bring dude back in 2012. I’ve been to suffer camp with the Giants going back to 1965. Seen just about everything that can come down the pike in SF. In the Sabean era alone, how many aging vets has he brought in that turned out to be more of a salary liability than a potent force on the team? Too many to count. The Giants won it last year on heart, guts, fight, outstanding pitching and clutch play. They certainly didn’t win it on stellar batting averages as we all know. Beltran’s personal numbers are really good. Good for him.
But beyond all that, let’s just all agree we should do away with Orange Fridays and have Black Fridays instead. Black jerseys! Black jerseys!
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No one thinks we should overpay Beltran
But saying that the offense will be better if he’s gone… that just doesn’t add up. He’s too good, and the rest of the team is too bad.
Also, selfish Beltran:
Beltran’s personal numbers are really good. Good for him.
No. Personal numbers are not just good for him. They’re good for the team, too.
The Giants won last year on fantastic pitching and OK hitting. They don’t have OK hitting any more, and getting rid of one of the only guys who’s hitting well isn’t going to help them get back to hitting well enough to win a title.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Reminder that there’s no “getting rid” of Beltran for 2012 as he’s no obligation to be in SF. The only decision is the $$$ and years to attract him to the team.
Of course.
And with fans who obviously appreciate the significant value he brings with his hitting ability, why wouldn’t he want to stay?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
LOL Bootran
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
So true, OK hitting went out the window. That said, one guy ie; Beltran isn’t going to make the difference. Maybe my biggest beef is the long-running trend in SF to pay big big money to guys in the middle to twilight of their careers, guys with a history of injuries, guys who were once great but don’t have a full tank anymore. I hate to use perennial whipping boy Barry Zito as the example, but yeah. The Oakland years of Hudson, Mulder, and Zito? Incredible! But that was then, this is now.
For the whopping amount that Beltran and Boras will likely ask for, wouldn’t it be better to get 2 or maybe even 3 players with above average hitting, and work deeper into the farm system? I think we can agree that we all want a winning franchise, a yearly contender, and some semblance of roster longevity if possible. The last time the Giants built around one guy (Barry) it failed to produce a championship. I blame that on Dusty mostly, but while Barry was piling up the HR record and using funny hand lotion, the Giants were off and on competitive, but hardly dominant. I guess that’s why it’s called a team sport.
We’re still in this for today right!
BEAT L.A.
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For the whopping amount that Beltran and Boras will likely ask for, wouldn’t it be better to get 2 or maybe even 3 players
Otherwise known as the Guerrero Rationale.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
Instead of getting one good player, let’s get a bunch of not-good ones.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Seriously part duh
Aw shoot, I didn’t realize Carlos Beltran was the ONLY good player in baseball at the moment. My bad. I should have never quit playing fantasy baseball, because I don’t grasp the fine points of the real game anymore.
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Who do you want instead?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/03/2012-mlb-free-agents.html
There’s a list of available free agents.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
it’s not a good list, and particularly not a lot of nice buy low guys at positions of need.
Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention.
Mark DeRosa is more than the sum of his tendons.
If Reyes really isn't an option
I’d like a Rollins, Infante, Carroll or Furcal for shortstop, and a Beltran for the outfield. If you can’t get a Beltran, I’d like a Willingham, Cuddyer, or Kubel.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I really don't like Willingham
in the microsamples I have run through my Unreliableyeometer, he looks pretty bad in OF. Like Burrell, but without the cagey positioning that makes him look like he’s just reaching a ball out of his range.
But mostly I have an irrational belief that the one they sign will become Garko just because he puts on a black and orange cap. I’ll keep this to myself as often as I can during rosterbation season.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
You had Mays and McCovey. They equate to eleventy billion normal Alabamian ballplayers.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
You’ve got a point. Reading that list was like reading the obituary page. Not much in there that is attractive and/or affordable at the same time. Still, not feeling Beltran as a Giant… almost feels like it might end up a little bit like Manny/Dodgers “Lite”, without the roids?
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Manny was really good for the Dodgers, though.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Manny Mota?
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Manny Sanguillen?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
sign all of them
to big contracts, and DFA whoever is terrible!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
So that would be what? Anybody under the age of 33? 35?
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That's it!
The players’ union can’t stand up to this kind of forced application of Rainy Day Funds!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
IMO Beltran isn't a "good" player for what the Giants need
I believe he is accident prone, has a poor attitude, is aging… The tired Sabean-Bochy concept of getting a veteran slugger to carry the team ended with the steroid era, which he might have been a part of, which would explain his propensity for injury.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Sep 21, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh
The Giants need good players. Beltran is a good player.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I agree they do need good offensive players
But if they are going to spend big money on a 3-5 year contract, I would submit that it would be better spent on a younger player who plays in most of the games in any given year.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds good. Who?
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heh
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
JUST TAKE YOUR PICK YOU CAN BUY WHOEVER YOU WANT REALITY IS IRRELEVANT
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I would rather they pass altogether
than sign someone just because he is here and might possibly appear in >80 games. For starters I would re-sign Ross, and perhaps play Belt for a change. Beyond that I am not sure, but maybe you are.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Sep 21, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Who plays at shortstop?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
quit asking me questions I don't have answers to
I want Crawford to play there. I know he isn’t a proven hitter, but I think the Giants can afford to develop their own talent at SS. I think he can hit if given the EVERYDAY job at SS.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Sep 21, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Crawford is very much a proven hitter
It’s just that the thing that he’s proven is that he’s terrible.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 21, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why I heard Krukow say...
just the other day, that Crawford has some pop. In reality, however, I think that he might become a .250 hitter. Not exactly tearing it up, but I think the future goes to teams that can play up-tempo hustle baseball.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Sep 21, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Krukow works for the Giants
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
But what did he say about Crawford’s BPs? That’s the true indicator of on-field performance.
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I’d rather him get the everyday job than have them sign Tejada 2.0. That being said there are a few SSs that would be worth going after.
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People I'd rather see play SS every day for the Giants next year than Brandon Crawford:
Jose Reyes, Jimmy Rollins, Omar Infante, Jamey Carroll, Rafael Furcal, Mike Fontenot.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Also lots of trade targets.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Interesting...
Like who?
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I mean, you never know who might be available
But Lowrie or Scutaro from the Sox, maybe. Ian Desmond perhaps. Cliff Pennington if he’s available. Jason Bartlett perhaps.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Didn't Fontenot bat .280 or so
as a STARTER in Chicago?
by ExPFCWintergreen on Sep 21, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Crawford's batting average IS .250...
… in AA.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I do believe that Crawford’s BA would improve if given sufficient regular ABs
by ExPFCWintergreen on Sep 21, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't.
He got regular playing time in the minors. Didn’t make him any better.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
That usually works for a good hitter in AAA making the transition to the bigs. Not a poor hitter in AA/AAA making the transition.
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You may be right
During his time in Fresno I mostly blamed Bochy without really looking at what he did there objectively
by ExPFCWintergreen on Sep 21, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And it's gone down . . .
. . . with every level of play he’s gone up.
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Yeah, cause nobody who struggled in their first 200 PAs ever amounted to anything.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Crawford has struggled in thousands of at bats.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Not many of them have struggled in the minors and the majors to his extent
And amounted to anything.
I’m rooting for Crawford as well, because I love watching his defense. But deep down I know the reality.
I can certainly understand being gun shy on costly vets but this offense needs something new. The thing about the crappy vets they have signed is that those were obviously bad contracts even at the time.
I would like to see them at least take a chance on a big bat. If they sign Beltran, Fielder, etc… to a big contract at least they went for the better bats out there, even if it doesn’t work out.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Who do you have in mind?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/03/2012-mlb-free-agents.html
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
jesus christ
You know what the Beltran argument needs? Unsubstantiated accusations of steroid use! That’ll really elevate the discourse around here!
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He really IS accident prone though. Just yesterday, he dropped his bat while walking from the dugout to the on-deck circle, and he knocked over Ford’s glass of milk.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
This is beyond stupid
Beltran is a good player. He’s the best hitter on this team. You not liking it does not change that.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
You can't add a second guy until you add the first amirite?
That said, one guy ie; Beltran isn’t going to make the difference.
Yeah
One guy is never going to make a difference, so never get any good players.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
You have to sign two players at the same time!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I really like the sportswriters' hype bit
Since, generally, sportswriters have shit on Beltran ever since he left Houston.
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Nah, don't keep Cody
Outfield right-handed platoon bats actually aren’t that hard to find.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
But he’s our right-handed platoon bat!
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"But he’s our right-handed platoon bat!"
Not after the season. Then the Giants are just another in the queue.
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RRRRRRAAAAAAAGE
Don’t keep any platoon bats at all!
Have you run out of rum again? We’re going to have to keep you drunk all offseason, sailor.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions
run Ssory Doc.exe
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Ssory Doc.exe run time fail
Hammie not found
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Here’s a pretty interesting interview with a Parks and Rec writer’s assistant.
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Heard this: Ain’t no way Jose Reyes will consider signing with the Giants this winter.
/pours one out
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Why is the rum gone?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions
/wipes away the tears
I can learn to love Jimmy Rollins.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
You will appreciate your Furcal and not another word about it!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
If it's the Furcal who's showed up with the Cardinals for the past few months
I’m down.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Seems like a good, cheap patch, assuming Fontenot and Crawford are still around for the inevitable DL spells.
Sure
My only concern is that the Giants have been patching SS since Aurillia moved off the position. One of these years, we should probably fix the issue.
Oh, Jose.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
His performance in San Jose has been encouraging
I’ll be following him closely next year.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
SS is such a tough position to find
Castro and Cabrera are the only two very good ones I can think off.
Reyes and Rollins are good but injury prone
Ramirez is sliding into average
I though Andrus was going to be good but he has struggled mightily.
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Oops
forgot about Tulo
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I like Drew
but he actually did not play well this year…wRC+ of 89 and a wOBA of .311….252/.317/.396
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Before the injury, he was on pace for a 3-4 WAR season. I’m not sure what your definition of playing well is.
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more like mid 2s but all his stats were on par with his 2009 season when he had a 1.5 oWAR…
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You should explain this to the DBags so he can play for the Giants.
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Trust me
I would love to have Drew in 2014. All I am saying is that he has not been the all-world player that a lot of people were expecting him to become.
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You seem to often assume that if a poster here expresses a preference for a particular player based on his ability (real or anticipated) to play better than current players, said poster is asserting the player will be “all-world” or some such. Sometimes people really just think that the particular player will be better, without regard for whether that player would be the very best ever.
You would probably be better served to not jump to the extreme, since it severely weakens your position and damages your credibility.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I was trying to be nice!
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
not anymore!
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It is because you like cake.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Subtle cakeism is the hardest to fight.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Those who prefer cake shall perish in the first wave of purges when the revolution comes.
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He certainly came with high expectations but he’s been around for a while so I think they have been tampered for a few years now. Even so, he has had some damn good seasons (’08 and ’10).
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I read this comment as talking about CalBear949. I find it a more interesting comment that way, so I’m not considering any other possibilities.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I’m the Aubrey Huff of McC
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I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Correction
just checked fangraph
Erick Aybar and Escobar have been pretty darn good
Andrus has not been struggling as badly as I though but still wRC+ of 98
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a wRC+ of 98 from a young SS is awesome.
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Agree but not superstar level like I though he would be.
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A) He turned 23 less than a month ago. That’s still really young. B) He’s been worth >4 fWAR this year. You have some really odd definitions.
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I may been wrong about Andrus
I think he had a bad 1st half and that affected my view of him…2.8 oWAR and a plus defender is definite quite good.
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Andrus hasn't struggled at all.
He’s been fantastic.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
And you get to have the same arguments you have about Reyes
Just have to throw in an “He’s old” and a “he’s better than any of the other options” lines.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
yeah
that “better than any of the other options” line leads to the slippery slope of Tejada. “Look at all these crappy SS! Let’s pay this one $6M!”
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
But Tejada wasn’t even a SS last year
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I don’t think so. Baltimore played him pretty much exclusively as a 3B, so only about 1/3 of his playing time was at SS last year. This year it was closer to 1/2 of his total playing time.
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But real inningswise he got ~500 with the Padres; this year he made it to 300 before getting the boot.
I’m not sure what your point is. If your point is that he appeared in more games last year than this year, well, yeah, the stint on the DL + the DFA explain that. But I feel that saying that he played more SS last year than this year is a little misleading.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
But Tejada wasn’t even a SS last year
Now who’s misleading who eh!
I certainly didn’t mean to be misleading, but he somehow played non humiliatingly as SS while on the padres and was hardly used as a 3B while there (for obvious reasonsr ). It was farfetched to think he could keep it up, but the hope seems to have been for merely sub-par D.
I hate to bring up Bay Area ties
But he was an Alameda kid and he is towards the end of his career. Maybe he wouldn’t be overly expensive?
With no source and not even providing a reason
This is bush league from Baggs here.
cough . . .
I’d take Furcal over Rollins, if it would mean we could get a COF who could really hit.
Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention.
Mark DeRosa is more than the sum of his tendons.
COF?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Corner OF. OK
I want both.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
furcal is renteria 3.0
2 steps down, can’t stay healthy, severely diminished arm. huge mistake to want Furcal – and he’ll get at least 9MM which won’t fit in any budget anyways. Furcal of the braves is done. Furcal of the Bums is done. He can’t leg out hits and he can’t go deep in the hole. He is terrible, and should be shunned.
I don't want him. But that's who we'll get.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't want him
but he’s better than Betancourt. I pray every night they sign anyone but him.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
LOL, wow!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Shuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Bochy let Pill bat against a righty in the 9th with Belt on the bench.
Lefties can’t hit lefties, but apparently, righties can hit righties.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:04 AM PDT reply actions
This has long been Bochy's thoughts on the issue
It’s why Freddy is allowed to play against everyone despite the fact that his stats vs righties are actually pretty terrible and he’d be better off in a platoon with Fontenot.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
This whole thing makes me angry
Bochy is one of those stupid asses who looks at splits only when it can back up his bullshit. SSS and all be damned, if you are going to use those numbers, use them all the time, not just when it’s convenient for your sorry excuse for a managerial style. It wasn’t just Pill. Huff has a tendency to pull a large amount of pitches, Belt uses the whole field, so who would you use against a guy that lives on the outside at the knees? The pull hitter? WTF?!? I don’t wNt to hear about how he doesn’t have options. That is fucking bullshit. Him and Sabean are the ones responsable for the position the giants are in, not the injuries.
Why is Orlando Cabrera? Fuck!
Suck it Mat Latos rolls off the tongue so nicely
by Cant_buy_a_run on Sep 21, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
After reading that, angry iPad typing is hard haha
Why is Orlando Cabrera? Fuck!
Suck it Mat Latos rolls off the tongue so nicely
by Cant_buy_a_run on Sep 21, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions
"Bochy's thoughts"
Textbook oxymoron.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
other great moments in not pinch-hitting
every time Cabrera went to the plate.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
WHY IS CABRERA?!?
Why is Orlando Cabrera? Fuck!
Suck it Mat Latos rolls off the tongue so nicely
by Cant_buy_a_run on Sep 21, 2011 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
It was in the pool
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
It shrinks?
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
As it warms up today, it will get bigger. It’s at 200-ish right now. By this afternoon, it will be closer to 1000.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
HAWT!
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: Umm wow...
From the Sharks: some guy made this?
http://yfrog.com/klw05jbgj
Ryane Clowe
This guy spent 250 hours making this! Unreal!
Looks real comfortable too… ahem…
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That guy looks like Vizquel with long hair.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Embarrassing
KERSHAW VS. LINCECUM
March 31 @ LA (opening day): Dodgers 2, Giants 1
July 20 @ SF: Dodgers 1, Giants 0
Sept. 9 @SF: Dodgers 2, Giants 1
Sept. 20 @LA: Dodgers 2, Giants 1
–
The Giants have scored one run or fewer in 16 of Lincecum’s 32 starts.
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I know that all of the starters try never to blame anyone but themselves
That is definitely Matt Cain’s influence on them. However, I wish that one of them would go off on Bochy, Sabean and the offense to the press just once.
“Yeah, I really tried my best out there today. I struggled with my command a bit but managed to keep the team in the game but this fucking offense sucks ass. I mean, what was I supposed to do?”
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
/glances imperiously over the offense
/gives sabes the thumbs up
/sock another 10 million in the rainy day fund
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Why don't pitchers realize their goal is not to win the game but to limit the opposing team to as few runs as possible?
There’s no reason for hate. Everyone knows the offense is why the team isn’t making the playoffs.
"I never stop being amazed by how much people who hate stats because they’re "flawed" quote so much more obviously flawed stats. " -Joe Posnanski
by RichHerreraHomer on Sep 21, 2011 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
There’s no reason for hate. Everyone knows the offense is why the team isn’t making the playoffs.
And yet, Cabrera will be in the lineup again this evening.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Nobody likes losing.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Big day for the Rays
Shields vs Hughes then Hellickson vs Sabathia.
First one should be easier. Prolly gotta win both.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Fucking embarrassing work from Baggs
Not a single mention in his game story or the postgame notes of Huff’s DP or not pinch hitting Belt. It was all OMG KERSHAW
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Dude straps on the kneepads for the postgame interview. I am not surprised.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think the writers are as obsessed with Belt as we are and I’m also guessing there’s no point in asking because they already know the answer. Both Schulman and Baggs have at some point said that the Giants have really botched the handling of Belt this season and have criticized Bochy for Cabrera. Jenkins even criticized last night’s lineup in his column today so there is some awareness with the beat writers that everything is a little screwy.
Still… I wish they’d spill some beans about what is going on in the clubhouse because it’s obvious they know stuff they’re not saying and that stuff could explain a lot off what’s going on
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I think sometimes fans forget
that this is a workplace for the players and coaches. Are we really entitled to the dirty laundry of the ebb and flow of personal interactions, beefs, etc. while they are happening? I’m pretty sure we’re not. I mean, would you like to see in the press every day some writer’s interpretation of what a third party thinks of a disagreement you had with your boss or coworker?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
I don't think you can apply the normal rules of a workplace to that of a professional sports team
I mean, I see your point. But the press is part of the deal with these guys. I’d hazard all this stuff (and more) would be aired out in most cities east of the Mississippi.
The press is part of the deal, but there have to be understandings about what is off-limits and what can go on the record. As much dirty laundry that does get aired, there must be a ton of stuff that’s not.
by non sequitur on Sep 21, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe that questioning why a player like Belt is sitting in favor of another player that is clearly inferior is very much in bounds. I believe wanting to know why a player like Cabrera who has contributed nothing at all during his time as a Giant continues to play is exactly why reporting agencies have beat reporters in the first place.
I mean, I am not asking the beat guys to video into bedroom windows or anything. I just want to know why the manager of my favorite team is such a ficking idiot?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
because
Bighead’s mental powers are too much for the beat reporters to overcome.
by non sequitur on Sep 21, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
That looks a lot like Ian McDiarmid.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'd agree with that
I know these guys work hard to maintain decent relationships with the people they report on.
However, not inquiring about Belt is pretty weak.
If (in some alternate reality where what I do for a living is considered entertaining), then yes.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, true. I just mean there’s a lot of curious things that have gone on this season and the reporters still say that Bochy’s been doing a great job all things considering this season so I’m wondering if there’s more to comments about gritty vets and experience than there is. Like is Bochy doing something in the clubhouse to make everyone from falling into a pit of despair or if the pitchers staged a mutiny once and Bochy negotiated between them to get Cabrera out of the locker they locked him into
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I was mildly surprised at that…actually no…not surprised at all. No way that Bochy was going to have Belt bat in the situation. He’s going down with his veteran…
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I’m more impressed that in the first inning they ran into two outs on the basepaths and then ran into a third one. That was a full inning right there.
Just read through the thread and heard bad baserunning mentioned a couple of times but no details. I missed the 1st 3 or so innings, can anyone update me?
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
There were several wasted baserunners.
Torres out on what looked like a hit and run
Christian picked off
Beltran made a baserunning out
and I think there may have been one other, we weren’t paying close attention, and actually didn’t even watch much past the 5th inning.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Beltran got picked off
That was his baserunning out
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ZOMG HE SUCKS HE GETS HITS BUT THEN GETS PICKED OFF NEVER SIGN HIM AGAIN
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
easy
this was just answering the “who’s who” of baserunning blunders last night.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
That was kinda my point.
I was hoping the all caps would be a giveaway that I was gently mocking the haters.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Beltran doesn't make mistakes around here
Especially pretty serious ones, like not swinging even once when a guy has thrown nothing but fastballs for strikes with two out, two on, down 1 in the 8th.
He is clearly the problem with the offense.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
He clearly did the best thing possible when he took 4 straight
fastballs over the plate in such a critical situation against a guy throwing strikes.
I can play the strawman game too!
He had a bad at bat. /shrug
His stats indicate that he will succeed in that situation at a greater rate than any other Giant; and most other baseball players on any team.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Beltran fails all the time
The best hitters in baseball fail 6 out of 10 times.
Beltran just fails a hell of a lot less often than anyone else.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I think we just have different definitions of fuck up
Why is it worse that Beltran struck out looking than Pablo striking out swinging?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
also
Christian stole third, and would have been out by 10 feet had Barajas not dropped the ball.
Ford got on base and never got any kind of jump at all off Kershaw.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Ford was able to take 2nd on a ball in the dirt. He’s not that good at stealing bases and he did make a good decision to move to 2nd on a ball that didn’t go too far away from Barajas. I expected him to be caught stealing in that situation on a pickoff.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
fair enough
he also seems to have finally learned not to look back at the C when running, at least the last couple times I’ve seen him.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Ford sucks at basestealing
All vroom, no sense
Giants baseball: Together We're Crippled
by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I posted this the other day
The closer we get the more Bochy will go into veteran mode….
Huff to pinch hit over Belt? Cabrera starting over Crawford? DeRosa hitting clean up? C’mon Bochy.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
I actually thought both Huff and Belt should have pinch hit
One for Pill and one for Cabrera. Apparently Pill is so great that he gets to PH against a righty.
Fuck. Fontenot would have been a better option than Pill at that point.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
He’ll need a box or something. Or maybe they can excavate along the sideline so the teams will stand in an Alan Ladd-type hole.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
indeed
I’d find my post from a few days ago but I’m lazy. We’re in this thing as long as we’re out of it, because once we get back into it the old guys will play again and we’ll be out of it.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
John Sickels' Minor League Prospect of the Day
Bre—-I’m not saying it. Someone else can.
YEAH JOEY!
Clippers win back to back Triple-A National Championships. This time, on the back of a strong pitching performance by Joe Martinez!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Fuck yeah!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
JT Snow company man
Earlier on KNBR said that considering the injuries this year, Bochy did a great job, blah blah. That is going to start coming out of everybody’s mouth from Nukom, beat writers, KNBR, Sabez, to Bochy himself.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
Meh, I don’t pay much attention to what they say. This is the group that said Velez was a cornerstone player in the organization, what? 3 months? before they let him go elsewhere.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
And then Freddy’s injury brought nails to the coffin, all the players going down in August brought in more nails, and then Beltran’s injury brought in some more nails and Pablo’s shoulder injury is going to close the coffin shut
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
That fucking Neukom guy is starting to get on my nerves.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, the Giants should think about getting some better hitters.
The FO may believe that they can just wait around for 2010 to happen again instead.
Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention. Jonathan Sanchez isn’t likely to be traded unless the Giants fall out of contention.
Mark DeRosa is more than the sum of his tendons.
This definitely fits in with the Rainy Day Fund concept.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
A new coat of paint and some pergo flooring, and these foreclosed shotgun shacks will be ready for sale in 2012!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
The "$1000 Hammer" for the new millenium
“We found the Department (of Justice) spent $16 on each of the 250 muffins served at an August 2009 legal conference in Washington,” said a DOJ Office of Inspector General report released on Tuesday.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 8:17 AM PDT reply actions
yeah
but the muffins had to be engineered to withstand cat 5 hurricanes.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
That's gotta be where all the black ops money comes from.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Ruth Ginsburg: Secret Assassin!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: This can't be true can it?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That’s pretty messed up. Of course, stupid people will focus on that and assume it is the norm for Muslims.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
When the state of the offense repels free agents and then the pitching (deciding to sign elsewhere upon their free agency)
I would hope Brian Sabean is blasted into space without a space suit.
Or we could make him live here next to my chain smoking neighbors…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Wow. I have the same problem. Chain smokers and potheads and young kids.
Just give Sabean a sentence of apartment living.
Do you live next door to me?
I guess we should be thankful that they aren’t NOISY on top of everything else, but sheeesh. I walked out the front door this morning to water plants —> pot smoke.
Went out to water plants on the patio —→ cigarette smoke
Oh well.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Yeah. Same deal.
We have a corner bottom apartment adjacent to an alleyway and a walkway between our building and the one next to it. Car traffic, people traffic, all kinds of smoke, rowdy screaming kids above us.
I keep saying I’m going to eat a ton of cabbage and go fart in their windows, but I’m guessing their sense of smell is so messed up they wouldn’t even notice.
“Duuuuude you reek of pot!!”
“Nuh-uh.”
The Mr. said that at his previous place of employment he walked past somebody who was reeking like that, he said the smell was overpowering, 5 minutes later he saw the same guy getting in an elevator with a boss-person-man….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Richard Branson accepts the job!
Virgin Galactic just completed a construction facility in the Mojave Desert that will build spacecraft for the space tourism industry. This facility will employ 200 people.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
Will the employees commute there via Virgin Galactic spaceship?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Brian would construct his robot friends to be creaky and old.
Robot Roll Call:
Gritty!
Gamer!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Giant Love to all
Brian Johnson game was good, was there and there for all I remember best,,
best on the radio,, Will Clark in Houston in his first at bat
same job, caught the Dolphins knock off the Bears in ‘85
I remember the Morgan game with sweet eff the Fodgers joy,, good seats with my uncle not too many rows back of the 3B dugout, still my favorite moment,,, told him about it many years later and asked about that team, he said they were broken up in no small part because the GM, Tom Haller, didn’t much like the racial make up of the roster, shockingly honest was Joe Morgan in a few private moments with him,, I remember that team with love man for sure
one of the earliest memories was on older McCovey pinch hitting into a DP to end a game,,, maybe my favorite memories is a little later, McCovey’s last year? ending a game in the 14th when my uncle had said we were leaving if it didn’t end with a two run shot into the football bleachers as the fog got really cold
so much and many more
one flap down
Marshall spanking Garrelts one night and shaking his fist and pointing out at the mound, next batter ducked under the one over his head and Garrelts tossed his glove, Guerro and the Had Man came out of the dugouts and it was ON
all washed away in a sea of a Championship
and now
all I can say is, last chance Sabes, get it done before all this pitching goes away, this pitching staff deserves a couple more post season runs because they are epic
love Giant fans,, big love
yikes
Hac Man,, that dude was one bad mofo,, many many memories of him on and off the field, ran into him in the stragest places, not all of them seemed appropriate,, he was the coolest of cool without a doubt
it is so hard to be positive about the future of this team right now
If it’s true that Jose Reyes wouldn’t even consider signing in SF, it really makes you wonder what the team’s reputation is among MLB players.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 8:55 AM PDT reply actions
and then he texted Reyes about how terrible it is in SF and how he couldn’t wait to get the hell out of here….
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Isn't that, like, the exact opposite of what he did?
Since he’s been saying that the Giants should get Reyes?
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
he has a reverse texting plan
he gets paid when he sends a text.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
People are going to point to the park as a reason, but they shouldn’t. The park didn’t put together this ridiculously bad lineup. The Giants had no problem scoring runs when they had good hitters.
If someone like Reyes (who plays in the Grand Canyon) looks at AT&T and says, “No way I play in that yard”, well then, that doesn’t make him a very smart person.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
if he were older
he’d look forward to a Giants contract like the annuity plan it seems to be.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
This
You’d think a guy approaching 30 would realise that his job here will be safe for a decade and no rookie will steal it from him.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Giants FA contracts
are like pension-spiking. Dave Roberts: one year as Deputy Chief Strikeout Producer, a lifetime of benefits!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Reyes isn't even a power hitter to begin with, and the park has
a lot of room for the ball to roll around in while he trots into 3rd standing up.
Wait what?
The Giants just won a WS.
They have arguably the best pitching staff in the league.
They have two of the best young players at 3B and C in the league and a potential superstar at 1B/OF.
The fanbase is extremely supportive and the press is much easier on players than the East Coast.
Reyes may not considering signing in SF because he knows they won’t give him the huge long-term contract he’s looking for.
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Fanbase hasn't been supportive of the best hitter on the team.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Beltran? but he’s selfish! Honestly, I think most of the fanbase are supportive of him…just some of the gripers who complain.
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he was getting booed pretty loudly at one point. That was pretty much the low point of the season though.
WWRWD?
We should hold an McC drive and buy a full page in the SF Chronicle apologizing on behalf of all Giants fans and asking him to stay.
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Hey, at least nobody’s spit on his wife
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
and yet, they still can't manage to build a capable offense
That’s why it’s hard to be positive. With all these things in the team’s favor, here they are in second place in an eminently winnable division, with most of their hopes for improvement next year pinned on players returning from injury.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
That's a little unfair
At the beginning of the year…the Giants offense was looking pretty good.
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Panda
Posey
Huff
Ross
Nate
Tejada/SS
P.
with a bench of Rowand, DeRosa, Fontenot, and Whiteside
That’s a good lineup based upon what happened last year. No one could have expected 1) Sanchez and Posey being out for most of the year, 2) Huff, Ross, and Torres being so awful, 3) Tejada being historically awful, and 4) Panda and Nate out/injured for a significant number of games.
Not to mention Romo and Wilson being out for a significant period of time…despite that this team is still 12 over .500.
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You are correct about number 1.
You are less correct about number 2.
You are absolutely wrong about number 3.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I would say that no one expected for Huff to drop 4 oWAR, for Torres to drop 2.5 oWAR. Ross was more difficult to assess since he was only here for a few months…
Tejada was going to be bad but .596 OPS bad. I mean he had a .670 OPS in Baltimore last year.
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I would say that no one expected for Huff to drop 4 oWAR,
And I would say that you’re wrong.
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really
you expected Huff to drop from a 4.5 oWAR to a 0.4 oWAR? I would expect a drop of 2-3 max but 4?
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Right, I didn’t expect much out of him last year, so I figured he drop off a bit this year, but by “drop off” I didn’t think he’d go all Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
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Two points: First, if you expected him to drop from his .388 wOBA (2010) to a little bit better than league average at .340 wOBA in 2011, that’d be a 4 WAR swing right there (assuming similar scoring environments, etc). That may have been a pessimistic change, but perhaps not unreasonably so. Huff’s career wOBA is .345.
Second, you said no one. I’m sure there was someone out there who was willing to bet that Huff would hit right at his career average.
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If you expected career averages
Huff averages: .280/.342/.467, an OPS+ of 114, wOBA of .345, wRC+ of 110 and a 1.74 oWAR,
The guy is hitting .247/.308/.374, OPS+ of 92, wOBA of .296, wRC+ of 83, and a 0.4 oWAR this year….no one expected this.
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1.5 for 3 is a good batting average!
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ahem point no. 4?
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Lars only graded you on 3 points, which is fine in my opinion because points 1 and 4 are basically the same. I’m actually not sure why you didn’t lump them together, since they’re basically just “injuries.”
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Cody Ross's 2011 OPS+ is 105
Cody Ross’s career OPS+ is also 105.
Other than time lost to injury, Ross’s season is pretty much exactly as expected.
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by EliminateMe on Sep 21, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
well, he did it a little unusually
Took more walks, hit for less power. But in terms of being a productive member of this team, yeah, if he’d stayed healthier he’d be spot on.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The bigger problem is that the management has no creativity. They are not only slavishly devoted to baseball cliches
but conventional wisdom. They are intellectually incapable of evolving, meaning they won’t look to improve by any means necessary, but simply take what’s available to them (as they see it).
Say what?
What the heck is innovation? Who exactly is so innovative about the Phillies, Braves, Brewers, St. Louis, Yankee, Tigers, Rangers, or Dbacks?
Were the Giants more innovative last year when they won the WS?
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As is most teams who win the World Series
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The Giants had one of the best offenses in the 2nd half of the season after Buster started hitting.
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This team traded for Jose Guillen and intended to start him every day including the playoffs, but only because of a legality did he not play.
I’m talking about process. The Giants have a terrible process. You’re talking about one half of one year in the last six.
No…the team traded for Guillen as a right handed power bat…Bochy decided he wanted to play him everyday.
Also, the Giants were incredibly successful at finding pitchers and now two high-caliber position players at 3B and C. They also have a potential star with Belt and another potential star in Brown.
Will the Giants become “innovative” if the entire roster consist of players from their minor league system?
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Is Bruce Bochy “innovative” for not playing his best players? We’ll never know if Belt has star potential because he simply won’t play.
I will allow that the Giants do have a knack for finding pitchers. Certainly, there was some creativity involved in drafting Tim Lincecum, whose delivery is unconventional.
But, otherwise, the Giants prefer people with long track records of success, but in the same way that movie studios look to Pacino and De Niro as hot, bankable stars.
Bochy is like 85% of the managers out there, he sticks with veterans and history (good or bad).
And you also talking about most teams in the MLB….the Rays and Twins are “innovative” but mostly because of budget issues. For every Rays/Twin, you have the Astros, the A’s, and the Padres.
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Wow
did not know that…but they were mostly in the 60 million range until the last two years.
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and what they do see, they see with blinders on. No ability to think outside the box here, or if they do, the logic behind it is messed up.
http://britton.disted.camosun.bc.ca/ninedots/jbninedots.htm
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Here's what I keep seeing when I think about the Giants and offense.
… Last year’s World Series title was partially the byproduct of a league average offense; the 2010 team’s wRC+ of 93 ranked them 8th in the NL and combined with stellar pitching it was enough to get the job done.
http://www.baycityball.com/2011/09/06/can-brian-sabean-build-an-offense/
Agree
but most teams have a gap between pitching and hitting.
I mean look at the playoff contenders:
Yankees and Red Sox, great hitting but pretty bad pitching
Tiger pretty good hitting and one dominant pitcher
St. Louis: Pretty good hitting and two above average pitchers
ATL: average lineup and good pitching for most of the year
D-backs: Average lineup and two very good pitchers
Brewers: Very good lineup and two-three above average pitchers.
Phillies is probably the most balanced team with great pitching and average offense.
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Forgot about
Texas: Very good hitting and inconsistent pitching.
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There is something rather unusual about rarely being able to field an average offense when you have the resources of the San Francisco Giants. And that “rarely” I have to put there just because they lucked into one last season.
Well
The Giants payroll averaged about $80 million between 2000 and 2011…I’m assuming a majority of that went to one BLB…granted BLB was worth way more than his contract but the Giants were pretty in the middle of the pack for payroll.
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no
an average payroll team…
Also, the Giants payroll since 2008 has been slightly affected by the contracts of Zito, Rowand, Renteria, and Randy Winn…
Seriously, 2009 Giants had a $82 milllion payroll, $18 m to Zito, 9.6 M to Rowand, 9.25 M to Winn, and 8 m to Edgar (another $8 m to Johnson)
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Players the Giants organization identified as being good and worth those contracts. This, I believe, is the point of my argument. Even if we ignore the Zito contract and don’t put that on Sabean, the rest remain and are the result of a flawed, typical process lacking innovation.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Compromise
Sabean has made some terrible FA decisions in the past but I think his approach is much different now…there is a stronger focus on developing young talent rather than signing FA to longterm contracts.
Now, how much of this was a challenge in ownership between Neukom and Magowan I don’t know but I have a sense that it definitely had an effect.
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I’m not sure what sense of the word you’re using majority, but it’s not the literal one.
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Yeah...
I was surprised when I looked up the stats that Phillies offense was better than the Brewers offense.
Also, the D-backs is fourth in runs scored/G with in the NL.
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Yes
And the league-average offense was largely driven by what now look like fluke years from two guys (Huff and Torres) who should not, by any reasonable standard, have been expected to produce at nearly the level that they did.
but it was also hindered
by a poor year by Panda and the suckiness of Molina.
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but it was helped
by the unexpected awesomeness of a rookie catcher who spent the first month and a half in Fresno
Shift-A: Last night's game was the season in a microcosm
Timmy pitches well…the team gets two men on bases with one out and one run deficit.
An injured Panda and Beltran Ks to end the inning.
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I foolishly thought that Huff was going to drive one for either a double or HR. It was total blind optimism, based on my sense that Javy Guerra doesn’t strike me as that impressive and that Huff could maybe contribute something in this season. I was horribly mistaken.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
Heard this: Ain’t no way Jose Reyes will consider signing with the Giants this winter.
So maybe spring? Summer? In time for Fall?
Everyone see this? LOL BENGIE
I Was Framed
Catchers play a central role in the game of baseball through their involvement with every pitch that their pitchers throw. One of their key tasks is receiving borderline pitches without discouraging the umpire from calling strikes.
Dan Turkenkopf was one of the first analysts to investigate this phenomenon using detailed pitch location data. He found that catchers differed significantly in their performance at getting strike calls from umpires. Matthew Carruth and Bill Letson followed up with additional research and similar conclusions. The size of the effect that Dan and Bill found was so large as to be almost unbelievable.
Earlier this year, I observed that where the catcher set the target relative to the edge of the strike zone and whether the pitcher hit the target had a large impact on the likelihood of a strike call. Some pitchers, such as Tom Glavine and Livan Hernandez, were consistently able to expand the edges of the strike zone by several inches. The fact that catchers are paired with a limited number of pitchers in a season affects our ability to properly assign credit for extra strike calls to catchers. Adjusting for pitcher-catcher pairing reduces the apparent size of the catcher responsibility for the effect to more reasonable levels.
When I reported this observation, I applied a pitcher adjustment to Bill Letson’s catcher receiving numbers from 2008-2009. Now, having added catcher defensive information to my own pitch database, I am in position to report my own measurements of catcher performance at getting extra strikes for their pitchers.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15093
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BochyWuzRight
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Also you can click on the raw data under the chart
It has Buster’s numbers too.
If you projected Buster’s numbers across 5 seasons he would easily be in the Top 10 in this metric
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Also this is crazy
For the borderline pitches I reviewed where the catcher had otherwise quiet and stable mechanics, the presence or absence of the catcher head drop predicted the umpire’s strike call 31 of 32 times.
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Say what you will about his moral and ethics, but the man has a nice body.
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PtB is one of the guys I feel worst for on the team.
Imagine having to sit here and watch this crap, knowing you could help, but injuries not letting you.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Sitting waiting to be called to a courtroom for jury duty.
Everyone in here is either coughing or sneezing. I should have worn one of those masks.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Why is everyone at the DMV or court perpetually sick?
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I think there's something ingrained in our DNA that causes us to reflexively
try to spread our germs when we’re in public.
Aren’t you like a person they wouldn’t want on jury anyway?
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
and I just mean in that “law enforcement” “law professional” sort of way.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That used to be the case, but I don’t think they care that much anymore. I’m going to try to claim hardship, because my firm will only pay for 5 days of jury duty. (This is a new policy that is the result of an associate who once had to serve on a three week trial.)
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I think
they figured out that lawyers have licenses that might be encumbered by bench warrants.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Merope is talking about the sort of universal theory that other lawyers don’t want lawyers on their juries, because of our legal background.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Yeah, that. Shame on you being able to think with a modicum of logic and knowledge of law-stuff.
My brother-in-law is a cop, he always gets excused from jury duty.
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I think sworn officers are exempt from being summoned.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
That is true. But, I would think any law enforcement types (retired, even) would be rejected by most criminal defense attorneys.
A criminal defense attorney probably wouldn’t care that I’m a lawyer, since I don’t do criminal law. A plaintiff’s attorney on a civil employment case would get rid of me immediately.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I've heard
that in SF (and especially heard in NY) that this sort of analysis breaks down somewhat because the jury pool is… well, not like pools in Real America, in a variety of ways.
I knew several lawyers in NY that had been impaneled. I know one in CA now. Not that this means anything, really, just that it does happen.
You’re also plagued with a pleasant disposition and personality! People like you! You’ll make it for sure!
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks <3
I’m pretty mild mannered. There’s nothing interesting enough about me for anyone to want to use up a challenge on me. But, I seriously wouldn’t want me on a jury if I were a plaintiff’s attorney in an employment matter. I am biased. I’ve seen too much.
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
LOL U
You should have told them you couldn’t serve because there would be no one steering the ship while you were gone.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
“Arrrr! I be keelhaulin’ that swab on my ship!”
/excused
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Time to phone it home?
I was chatting with my buddies all night that the Giants would only score a lone run for Timmy. He promptly told me to shut up but it was too late. Stewie his his Solo shot and the rest was history. Be as it may, I love the Giants but Bochy and Sabean have to go. This offense needs an overhaul and Timmy should be allowed to kick each of his batter’s in the Nuts for failing to give him the ND in the 8th.
Oh well, there’s always next year or another 50 to get another WS. Go Giants!
Pretty much...
last night was a golden opportunity to get to 4 games behind D-backs…heck with some luck the Giants could have been within 3 by the weekend but it was not to be. I would still wait until the D-Back series to be sure.
The offense gets a lot better with Panda, Posey, and Belt playing the whole year. Sanchez will be good offensively and very good defensively. It looks like Nate could be trending up and his defense is very good.
The glaring holes are at SS and CF. I would rather the Giants go out and sign a CF/leadoff guy and let Andres be a defensive/running backup. Crawford can play SS just because of his defense.
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I like that Nuts is capitalized.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, it's official:
Orlando Cabrera has become my Most Hated Giant Ever. More hated than Armando Benitez. More hated than A.J. Pierzynski. More hated than Edgardo Alfonso. More hated than Sir Fatty Fat himself, Sidney Ponson. More hated than Jose Guillen.
And this has nothing to do with personality—hell, I’m sure DeathCab is a great guy in the clubhouse, and he doesn’t really seem to play with a chip on his shoulder. No, the reason I hate him is because HE’S FUCKING TERRIBLE. He saw six pitches last night in THREE PLATE APPEARANCES. And yet BRUCE BOCHY CONTINUES TO GIVE HIM PLAYING TIME OVER FONTENOT AND CRAWFORD. (I’m about to break my caps lock key.) As I posted yesterday, the Giants record when Crawford starts is something like 32-20; when Cabrera starts it’s 16-22. How much more evidence does Bochy need that this guy is awful?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
No way
AJ
Benitez
Guillen
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Ponson
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oops
forgot about Rowand
AJ
Benitez
Rowand
Guillen
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Ponson
Zito
Cabrera
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DFA ORLANDO CABRERA
He is up there with my most hated Giants as well… Benitez Rownads AJ etc
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Oh this is fun. My Top 10.
Shinjo
Benitez
Cody Ransom
AJ
Guillen
Neifi Perez
Cabrera
Tejada
Rowand
Dave Roberts
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Shinjo? Who could dislike a man with orange armguards!
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list is not complete without....
Johnnie LeHackster
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Considering I wasn't born when he played
He can’t be on my list
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I disagree.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
aw, Shinjo
It wasn’t his fault that Dusty couldn’t figure out how to use a weak-hitting CF.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Designated Hitter!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
If I remember correctly, Shinjo was also fast as hell and got to everything hit into the OF (like Torres) and also had a cannon for an arm so he wasn’t completely useless. I also think he was big in Japan and didn’t hit as well as expected because he wasn’t quite good enough to make the leap to MLB.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
The thing is:
As useless as many of those players were, for the most part they were plausible signings, even if we disagreed with them. Cabrera was unnecessary, he cost the Giants a prospect when he could have been had for free days later, and all of his numbers pointed to him being a bust. Oh, did I mention he’s below-average defensively?
It continues to blow my mind that despite all his suckage, Bochy continues to play him. That decision alone has single-handedly destroyed the goodwill I felt towards our manager after last season.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I cannot dislike Cabera that much because it’s only a half of a season…granted it’s been a horrible half season but still no long term reprecussions and he seems like an okay guy in the clubhouse.
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and he seems like an okay guy in the clubhouse.
When I am allowed to go into the clubhouse to see how he interacts with the rest of his teammates, I will stop dismissing this type of comment out of hand.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough…I just haven’t heard anything specific complaints about him…unlike AJ or Benitez. I mean we’re talking all time most hated here.
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Lars's adventures in the Giants clubhouse would be the stuff of legend
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
And then, decadees later during a Giants reunion of some kind,
Still active Giants’ first baseman Aubrey Huff shouts from across the room, “LARS! Is that you? I can’t see too good. Hell, get over here you propellering sonuva bitch!”
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what a decadee is, so, assume I meant decades
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
either that or a really shitty Israelite family
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Or a particularly sensuous type of songbird.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
MEL GIBSON IS MAKING A MOVIE ABOUT THEM
I’m sure he’s gonna have loving closeups of tongue-pulling and whatnot.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
For the half an hour it lasted before he got 86ed.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t really hate on Cabrera. He’s not a douchechill like Benitez and Pierzynski. I really hate Bochy for playing him though.
As I said, it’s my own personal reaction to him playing. He’s clearly not a douche, but that almost makes it worse. It’s like he’s worked extra hard to earn my hatred.
Although you’re right that I should probably just blame Bochy.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
The Beltran hate was ridiculous
Yes, he should have swung, but the guy’s hitting .338/.377/.556 as a Giant – he’s been the best hitter since he joined the Giants (or at least as good as Pablo). The guy screaming about him dying in a fire really needs to get some perspective / grow up some.
As opposed to BORK’s stupidity to not pinch hit for Pill or let Huff go up there with Belt sitting, sometimes you catch the breaks of assembling an offense of 37 year old retreads.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
by Aadik on Sep 21, 2011 10:15 AM PDT reply actions 10 recs
This is chock full of correctness.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Green it
Harping on a single Beltran AB after the tremendous fail in the rest of the lineup (both last night and most of last month) is the ultimate in not being able to see the forest for the trees.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Fucking embarrassing from both of our beat writers
Neither Schulman or Baggs mention in any of their postgame stories the decision to not pinch hit Belt.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
if that’s not the point, then what is the point?
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Playing your best players gives you the best chance to win
I’d take “probably” over “definitely”, wouldn’t you?
Anyone else notice that when the game ended, Bochy did not move for what seemed like minutes?
He did not even blink. I am going to pretend that he was having an epiphany.
Bighead trying to waltz would be hysterical.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
He would demand to dance with someone like Ginger Rogers.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
And…?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
The mouse on the running wheel paused briefly and then started running in the other direction.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
You know what bugs me in a funny way?
The local news here always uses old stock footage whenever they talk about Apple, which, being the Bay Area, happens more often than not. They’re talking about the iPhone 5 or Apple’s share and you see G4 iMacs and 2nd generation iPods in the video.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I notice stuff like that, too. There was one local newscast — and I don’t remember what the story was — in which the B-roll was obviously shot in the ‘90s. The video quality didn’t match any other shot in the piece.
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The HD revolution definitely makes things show.
The Giants clips from the early 2000s or earlier always make me marvel. “Hey, I WATCHED THAT on tv live. How come I didn’t notice how crappy it was?” Then I remember tube TV resolutions.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Right, yes! I saw a piece on last night’s NBC Nightly News about the demise of DADT. It utilized footage from President Clinton’s original announcement of the policy in early 1993. And man, did that footage look like something out of the Stone Age. Yikes.
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did you see that adorable cutie who came out to his dad right after the deadline passed? ugh.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Not completely unrelated. I liked this story.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
At least it had an uplifting ending. It reminds me how much I detest hazing in any form.
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I swear, hey, I know I went to a private Jesuit college, but how come nothing homoerotic ever happened to me? Yeah I had sex a couple of times but that was with actual gay guys. The closest thing I ever got to homoerotic was when the Dons baseball team dragged me into a crowded dorm room while they were in various states of undress and made me try chewing tobacco.
oh. well i guess that counts. I still love you Joe Nelson.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
i mean you’d think with all those Jesuits on every floor with their wine and their urbanity there would be MORE barely sublimated gay.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
wait
did you have actual seminarians or priests on every floor of the dorm?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
A priest on every boys’ floor. You’d think this would cut down on the carousing. nope. jesuits.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I <3 jesuits.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I worked the kitchen at the residence on campus once. SO MUCH DRINKING. SO MUCH GAY. very enjoyable.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS IS WHY
THEY GET EXPELLED FROM EVERY COUNTRY
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it wasn’t for plotting to assassinate Elizabeth I, that’s for sure. (USF has a fantastic collection of English anti-Catholic books and essays.)
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
that's funny
I wrote a paper about that for a seminar my senior year! But I wrote about anti-catholic imagery in colonial US. You’ll be shocked that I discovered most of the stories were recycled from the Reformation :)
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
A few of them got recycled from antisemitic stories from Medieval Christendom, which in turn were anti-Christian stories from late antiquity, and so on and so on back to the Neanderthal genocide.
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stupid history
why won’t it stay in the past?!?!?!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
One day I will own an HD tv.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I have one in the bedroom, and it’s pretty cool when you get HD channels. The others, though, look rougher and less clear.
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It was a news report about Sega’s online service getting hacked earlier this year. The picture they used is of a Sega Genesis, which was discontinued in 1995.
ALL SAME 2 CBS
(Full proper English translation for TBLA lurkers: “Ha! CBS, popularly construed as pandering to an elderly or unsophisticated audience, does not know the difference between a game console discontinued more than fifteen years ago, and the company that exists today. How shockingly amusing!”)
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
"Ford Recalls Several 2009 Models Due to Faulty Airbags"
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
by rotorueter on Sep 21, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
HAHA!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, 10:30 and 82˚ outside already.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
ewwww humidity.
If I had my way we’d move back to the Bay Area… but “that’s not financially responsible” blah blah blah…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Don’t particularly like bluegrass… one or two songs every 6 months and I’m good…. I don’t drink soda. I R impossible.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
YOUR DEFENSES ARE IMPENETRABLE!
Say, Every6thDay, you like mountains? Beautiful fall foliage, kdl! What’s that, natto? Looking for the Doillywood experience?
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And of course, I make a reference to a theme park built around the lace things that go under teapots. Great.
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by TheLetter2 on Sep 21, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you have skinny hillbilly boys who are secretly stargazing readers longing for a hefty brown foreign man to cuddle at night?
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes please text me immediately
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Man that’s some skill to make doilies out of wood.
We’ve driven past Dollyworld on our way to Gatlinburg, went hiking in the
Smokies.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I love Gatlinburg. I drove through there a long, long time ago and that and Pigeon Vorge were really cute. Sadly, my friend and I went there to go to Dollywood only to discover it was closed that day (d’oh!) but we enjoyed the rest of our time there.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Anecdotally, the people I have known from Tennessee insisted Dollywood was actually a pretty fun place to go. They acknowledged that my laughter upon learning that Dollywood was an actual place was not unreasonable.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
I can’t disagree with that view. I still will end up going to theme parks because I have kids. But if they go, by golly, they are going when there aren’t any crowds.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
We went to whatever that one is in Anaheim on Thanksgiving once. It was awesome. We only waited like 10 – 15 minutes in each line.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
We went early November, which seems like the best time to go. Short lines, and they have all the holiday decorations up; and the Halloween haunted house is still there too.
We’re going next week – should have short lines.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think they have many other recreational choices. We were shocked to visit a National Park there with paddle boats, soda machines ALONG THE TRAIL, and trashcans with ash tray dealies …. also ALONG THE TRAIL. Near the trail heads, after you got out .5 of a mile it was more ummm “normal”.
They do things different over there….
/pictures paddle boats on Mirror lake.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Wow. They didn’t mention anything about national parks, but the folks I know would have strongly disapproved. They liked their outdoors very outdoorsy.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
Well, I wouldn’t go to a national park that ,em>didn’t have vending machines. And maybe moving walkways instead of trails.
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I was going to invite you to backpack in the Grand Canyon but you would just take the helicopter out.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
AHA! I know you’re lying! The Grand Canyon is in Arizona!
I move for an immediate mistrial!
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I move that we relocate the venue to the bottom of the Grand Canyon!
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
They should build a ball park on the side of it. Homeruns into the canyon!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
And the announcers can describe the trajectory of those home runs using the career paths of Sabean’s vet signings!
“And that homer sailed all the way down to Tejadaville!”
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
wasting away again in Miguel Tejadaville
looking for a good shortstop to call…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
by Merope on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some people claim that Bochy’s to blame
But I know… It’s all Sabes fault
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by jhiat00 on Sep 21, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
IRLLOL
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you live near the Grand Canyon? I was thinking of taking a day trip from Vegas. Do you recommend?
I used to live in Phoenix. If you have never been to the Grand Canyon I recommend you check it out.
If you have time and are a little adventurous I recommend some hiking too. Just remember it is much harder to get back up once you hike down!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The tribe that owns the Skywalk might take you up on that.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
You have to drive way the hell to the other side of the canyon for that. Then drive down a dirt road. And then pay a zillion dollars.
We didn’t do that.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Just ride the burros.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
there's a pretty great bluegrass scene in SF, actually
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Crap. Um…Moon Pies? Cas Walker? Cormac McCarthy? Vols football? The Sunsphere?
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It was really hot last night in Oakland
I had trouble sleeping. Listening to the game really pissed me off, which I knew it would.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
So, Reyes doesn't want to come here?
I’m guessing it has more to do with personal reasons than the park, but that’s entirely speculative. It seems like Reyes would actually do very well in this park – his speed and extra base power makes me think he’d hit a ton of triples.
But, if he doesn’t want to come to the West coast then I’ll resign myself to watching the Giants chase Jimmy Rollins. I don’t actually like the idea of Rollins, mostly because he’ll be looking to get paid like a former MVP (which he didn’t really deserve, in my opinion), instead of the slightly above average shortstop he now is. Plus, I bet if the Giants do get him they’ll talk even more about things like “swagger.” Hey, maybe Rollins can be the one to make premature claims of future victories if Jonathan Sanchez isn’t around next season.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
After watching the parade of suck at shortstop this year
I’d take “slightly above average” in a heartbeat.
He’s going to get paid like Michael Young, and he’s probably going to be less valuable (because of the hitting, obviously). Furcal has almost as much upside (just more of an injury risk), and would be way cheaper.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
It will be interesting to see the market for him
Don’t disagree with you though. If we sign either of those guys, probably a good idea to have an adequate backup.
The Giants won’t be signing Rollins. Rainy Day Fund and all that.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
If Reyes actually doesn’t “want” to come here, as it, for no amount of money, then it has to be something about him wanting to stay on the east coast or something. The park thing wouldn’t make sense since he’s played in a giant park for his whole career anyway.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Wow...Colby Rasmus
has been pretty awful after going to Toronto.
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LaRussa wuz right!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Well the Cardinals clearly won that trade!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I am not saying that
just surprised at how bad he had been …100+ PAs so moderate SSS.
The guy is 24 so he’s got plenty of time and he had a great season last year so there is every indication that he will be good.
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Tech OT: Hate the new interface for facebook
Thinking about going to Google plus…any thoughts?
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I love the new interface
Well, not really. But I do enjoy the endless, angry bitching on my news feed every time they change something around.
Facebook is serious business!
Google+ is ok. Nobody I know is using it yet though.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
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That seems like the problem
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Yea, i got on Google+ early
Just not many people on there yet. Otherwise I like it.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 21, 2011 11:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
G+ is awesome...i hope people start converting...hangouts are soooo sick now
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Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
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Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Read this. It is good.
I don’t always agree with Ken Rosenthal, but this was a well crafted article.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Also it contains a Goldfarb shoutout, which is an easy way to get people on this blog to like something.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
He always struck me as more of the pinstriped boxers type.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
The record has been amended.
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Boxers are not restrictive like briefs.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
What if the aspects of his personality that are suppressed due to conservatism are channeled into going commando?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
PINSTRIPED boxers.
Although you KNOW Kantor wears a thong.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a boxer guy.
But no particular design.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Boxers
from Banana Republic
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I dress in the dark so I usually wind up wearing a magazine.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably silk boxers that cost hundreds of hard working taxpayer’s dollars. And you talk about fiscal responsibility. You hypocrite!
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
cost hundreds of hard working taxpayer’s dollars.
Of course not. These were made in Vietnam!
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
But his boxers can withstand a category 5 hurricane!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Gasp!
So saucy today!
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know what’s gotten into me. I think it’s this gray, drab weather.
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Must be. You were the same way the night of the game. The fog lets out the beast in you.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Briefs
I don’t like all that floppin’ around down there
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Exactly
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer the floppin. I’m not big on constraints.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Yeah, constriction bothers me.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
And an undergarments debate breaks out.
This is such an MCC thing to do.
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No one is in tears or engaging in ad hominem attacks yet!
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
SCREW YOU YOU FLIP FLOPPER
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BRIEFS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRORISM
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ARE A BAD PERSOLN BECAUSE YOU LIKE TO FLOP AROUND!
/throws out the ceremonial first attack
Actually, it totally depends on what I am wearing. If I am in dress pants, I prefer briefs because those pants tend to fit loosely and flopping around doesn’t really fit in a business environment. Wearing jeans, I will more likely wear boxers or just go commando.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Bomer of White Collar once gave this fashion advice: the key to wearing black tie is to go commando.
I fainted.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG I love this reference. Yes. I am Mr. Grainger and you are John Inman.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
See, now that’s a dvd collection we do go back to and watch over and over again. AYBS, Simpsons, and Frasier.
I think if we had MASH that would get watched a lot too.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Oh, you just gave me a great idea for Christmas. I’d love to have some M*A*S*H seasons on DVD.
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You know what else I’d love to have.. but last time we looked it was ridiculously expensive, the old Carol Burnett shows.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ohhhh Amazon has the complete MASH series on sale for $100 something, but there’s only ONE left in stock!!!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Hallmark channel used to have MASH on every afternoon, when we had a reliable dvr we dvr’d it.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I'll admit I have a huge collection and don't go back and watch very often...
but it’s the same with books.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Due to limited space, and the fact that I read a LOT, I don’t keep a book if I don’t think I’ll ever reread it, or in the case of professional type books refer to it again.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That’s it. I want AYBS on DVD for my birthday. MAKE IT HAPPEN MOM
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Going commando with jeans seems dangerous. Be careful when you’re zipping up.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That happened to one of my cousins once. ZZZZIPPPP
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s Something About Mary
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Beans above the frank.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can the ladies play along?
I wear boy short style unders, because they are more comfy and feel less constricting.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m waiting for one of the girls to say they go commando.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Sometimes
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think that's commando
I think that’s “Britney Spears”.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Just a city girl.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Livin in a lonely world
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Took the midnight train
Going co-mman-do
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 21, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too, generally when I’m wearing shorts around the house or something.
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/looks frantically for TL2’s pic in his Giants gym shorts
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
jfc. i forgot how comical this was.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Note: NSFW
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
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Who wears underwear under their PJs? I never understood that.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Ayup.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Who the hell wears pjs? R U 5 ?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I R 5.
Or rather, my kids are 6 and 9. We have too many visitors at night to sleep in our altogethers.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Strangely though I do find a fit man wearing pajama bottoms to be stunningly hot.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
nothin' like flannels on a cool winter eve
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Sleep nekkid
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
wat
“Those brown marks on my pajamas? That’s a design!”
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I only go commando at MCC meetups.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
STOP MAKING ME FAINT
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
ctrl + b should take care of that
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
SHE WAS IN ON IT THE WHOLE TIME!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet, you randy bastard!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Billy Beane looks so much more like Billy Bob Thornton than he does like Brad Pitt.
@legaleagle88
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I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Jonah Hill looks more like Jeremy Giambi than Paul DePodesta!
by non sequitur on Sep 21, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Hill was on Today this morning to promote Moneyball, and he wasn’t nearly as irritating and unfunny as I thought he’d be.
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Jonah Hill the actor may be a suave, debonaire fellow, but the Peter Brand character is obviously meant to be a schlub. I’m guessing the screenplay had to jettison the real Paul DePodesta (who’s a good-looking man) for a character which economically communicated the oddity of the Moneyball idea to audiences.
by non sequitur on Sep 21, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
DePodesta requested that they remove any mention of him from the film. That pretty much gave the writers the freedom to make up any kind of character they wanted.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Kind of related: an author friend of mine told me that the dead have no rights. So if they’re dead I can basically characterize them any way I want to and not be legally liable.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I've wondered about this for baseball fiction purposes
and have been too lazy to figure it out. That seems like an overstatement, but I suppose the plaintiff would have to be alive to file a libel suit.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, he came across it interviewing the families of the vets dramatized in Band of Brothers and the Pacific, and basically the lawyers told them they really can’t sue because the injured party is dead.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
But there are other cases where people are really famous and there’s an “Estate” haven’t there been suits brought by like the Estate of Elvis Presley?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
again IONO
a lot of those estate things are about use of copyrighted matter like songs or whatnot.
But I think you’re right about Elvis, didn’t they go after Elvis impersonators at one point?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea. I just remember hearing something once and thinking “wait a sec, dude’s dead.” Then realizing that family members are still probably being supported by his estate and any damage done to his name could damage the income of the estate which would lower the income of the relations etc etc…
and this is the house that elvis built.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
My understanding is that DePodesta looked at an early draft (Soderbergh’s version, I’m guessing, not the rewrite) and made the decision to pull his name then. I’m wondering what he saw in that draft — whether it was “wrong” or whether it was okay and he’s just, as news pieces say, a reticent person.
by non sequitur on Sep 21, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I bet he was the one who hooked up with the waitress
at Chili’s and didn’t like that they changed it to Beane.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
boy, I sure feel bad for fans of whatever team this guy is talking about, and all their good soldiers
"You can smell a bad deal more quickly than before," New York Yankees GM Brian Cashman says. "The old-school guys used to say, ‘This guy looks good in a uniform.’ You don’t hear that anymore. Owners should feel good about why they’re spending money other than, ‘He looks good in a uniform.’
"This is a business. It’s more than just, ‘I like this guy, he’s a warrior.’ You can define what a warrior is. Everything can be measured. And if not, we should strive to do so and get to higher ground."
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
WHO COULD THIS BE REFERRING TOO
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
If that came from anyone but Brian Cashman, I’d think it interesting. Nice deal on the Captain and Burnett and ARod and about half your team.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
none of those people
were signed because they were “gritty warriors”.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah the use of that exact phrase when Sabes and Bochy used it is the obvious reference
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
But what people don't realize is Sabean DID play moneyball in 2010
Moneyball is about exploiting market inefficiencies. What was the market inefficiency in 2010? It is not OBP. That ship has sailed a long time ago. That’s now overvalued. Adam Dunn is the prime example.
It is not UZR. Holy shit Carl Crawford.
No, the new moneyball in 2010 was high slugging low UZR over 30 veterans. Nobody wanted them but they have obvious value. Huff. Burrell. Uribe. That WAS the new market inefficiency.
Now, I don’t think Sabean saw it that way. It was more because Sabean refused to give into the OBP / UZR theory, and was left alone in the circle and thus unintentionally exploited market inefficiency. But no matter the reason, he DID exploit it.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I agree
Looking at the FA market in the last few years…most teams already locked up young talented players and even average young players. Thus all is left is underachieving veterans.
St. Louis lucked out with Berkman while the WS struck out with Dunn
Yankees lucked out with Colon and Garcia
DBacks got career years out of Kennedy and JJ Putz
Phillies and Brewers are slightly different but they picked up very good FA pitchers to bolster their team.
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So he's the blind squirrel that found a nut?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
pretty well stated
but I still think Cashman was zinging Sabean.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The first half of the very first sentence grabs my attention.
by non sequitur on Sep 21, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Where the hell did Kenley Jansen come from
BBRef says he was signed as an amateur FA in 2004, but he has no minor league stats pre-2009. He is filthy. You have to assume he will be the closer next year and beyond.
It would have been more interesting if it happened 10 years ago.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
yup.
My first reaction: Today? They were still a thing? Who knew?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Although, I will say that Fables of the Reconstructing is still one of my favorite albums.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
They were still together?
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
That's them in the corner
That’s them in the spotlight
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I loved loved loved Chronic Town, Murmur, Reckoning (for my money, the best sophomore record of all time) and Fables of the Reconstruction. I was so-so on Life’s Rich Pageant , Document and Green. Liked Out of Time and Automatic for the People. Bailed out after Monster.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Weird
I think Document is their best album, although Fables is right up there.
I had a similar trajectory but with a steeper decline…loved up through LRP, liked Document, was meh on Green and bailed out after Out of Time.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
by EliminateMe on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
A birdie in the hand
for life’s rich demand!
I think that was the peak: an intersection of intelligible singing, great music, and accessible songs.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And whatever’s left of Guns n’ Roses is touring and Pearl Jam’s working on another album of half-baked songs that’ll make everyone just put on a copy of “Ten”
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 21, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Rainy Day Fundraisers!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Opera simulcast is this weekend. Not sure if they’re doing an “event” surrounding that.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Ooh, Turandot. Il mio mysterio chiuso’n me, il nome mio nessun sapra, no no
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. I tried to be cutting edge and listen to a Philip Glass opera, but dammit, I’m just not that smart.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
YES
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/netflix
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I should cancel. I always end up keeping DVDs for too long, and I hardly watch streaming because the Wii is upstairs and the TV is smaller.
Streaming from the Wii is painful – no HD when it’s available through Netflix.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m keeping Netflix. All I subscribe to is streaming and it’s the only way I can watch my MonsterQuest without buying.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m keeping until I have a streaming alternative. If Amazon instant streaming makes its way to the PS3, then I’ll probably kill off the streaming. If Vudu can make its prices more reasonable, that’s another possibility that would allow me to kill of the DVD part.
These other companies are stupid if they don’t capitalize on Netflix customers’ discontent.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I am really shocked at the unanimity about this.
My wife understood the strategy here, and she has no business education at all and never reads business writing. I am really slackjawed that everyone everywhere thinks this is the end of the world or at least the end of Netflix.
A few things everyone needs to know:
1. Netflix is trying to postion themselves to lead the streaming market.
2. In five or six years almost no one will want to have DVDs mailed to them. It will be like reading a newspaper rather than getting onlinefor your daily information.
3. Qwikster is a brand that was born to die. So it doesn’t matter all that much how crappy the name/logo/website is.
4. Now is the time for Netflix to position itself as the streaming leader. Apple could be a competitor that would be too big to overtake if Netflix loses market leadership in streaming to them. This move will drive more revenue into streaming, giving Netflix better leverage to get more titles more quickly into the streaming catalog.
5. Transfering the Netflix brand equity from DVD Delivery, the dying platform to streaming, the emerging one is a stroke of brilliance.
6. 1 million customers about 4.5% is a very small price to pay for a position of leadership in an emerging market.
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I don’t think I’m disagreeing with you. But the point is, the service has become severely less convenient and appealing UNTIL the streaming content is improved. It’s like I’m being sold a house without a roof, with the promise that maybe the roof will be installed in 5 to 6 years.
IF the streaming content is expanded to match the DVD content, then I’m all good with this. But for now, it is not. And either I pay more for less, or I find an alternative. Which may spur those alternatives to improve.
The business model needs to consider the current needs of the consumer while planning for the future needs. Netflix is only doing half of this now. And if they lose their customer base while trying to get to the future, that’s not going to be good for anybody.
But I’m glad your wife with no business education is smarter than everyone here. That must make you feel good.
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Yeah, I would delete that if I had MCC premium...
My wife understood the strategy here, and she has no business education at all and never reads business writing.
Stupid by me.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
I should add that I came here and posted that after
being on another blog where commentors are kind of like KNBR callers. I think that statement was more driven by where I came here from than the posters here. Honestly, MCC posters are very intelligent. One thing I really like about this place.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
No worries. It’s kind of funny how worked up everyone is though.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
well, we can’t drive down to LA and slap botchy around so… you lash out at the closest thing… YOU BIG DUMB DOOFY IDIOT!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
And also, reasonable minds can differ, regardless of one’s business degree. This move by Netflix is not a guaranteed path to success. They already seemed surprised at the loss of subscribers following their price hike; I imagine that this new plan could also go horribly wrong.
So it’s a bit pompous to say “It’s obvious even to my uneducated wife!”
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also
I’m not sure Mrs. Cody_ransom would appreciate the comment
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Yeah.
That was the biggest reason for wanting to delete it. That and the general sexism it implies.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
I have wished for a delete key many times. Curse you SBN.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Problems with this theory
1) Netflix has a crappy streaming catalog and is only saved content wise by their mail catalog. So while I may not like the streaming options, I can still get what I want with DVDs. With the split, no such save.
2) Too many competitor exist now for Netflix to “dominate”. Amazon Stream, HBO Go, Itunes, Hulu Plus, and each of the studios/networks own streaming sites.
3) Netflix’s problem developed a few year ago when it failed to become the “leader” in streaming and work out deals with the studio when streaming was in its infancy.
4) The issue isn’t just the loss of customers, it’s the lack of future of netflix that is the problem. As they become less and less competitive, their content catalog will decrease. It will be a bad spiral downward…similar to what happened to myspace (and maybe facebook)
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
PETS.COM! WEBVAN!
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I used WebVan all the time when it first came about.
Safeway.com is my go-to grocery delivery service now.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
1. There are many people who couple streaming with Redbox. I am sure that Netflix was aware that their DVD business had already been disrupted by Redbox and this was a reaction to that.
2. Netflix still has more users than any of those services. Not sure how that splices out for streaming though. But since 24% of all US webtraffic is Netflix streaming, I’m guessing they are the market leader.
3. Can’t argue that.
4. I don’t think it is a foregone conclusion that they become less competitive. Why do you think they will? Hulu is ripe for the picking, they could acquire them and add to their catalog. I recently read an article about Blockbuster/Dish making a mve to buy Hulu.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Dish was smart to buy them.
Hella cheap. 228 million If I remember right.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Maybe the strategy is sound, but the delivery is lacking
Not sure I’ve ever read an email from the head of a conglomerate as passive and apologetic as Reed Hastings’ the other day.
They done screwed something up and they know it.
Netflix will get crushed
too many, like Google/Amazon/Apple, will push them out of the way soon enough.
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Exactly
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Apple will do as it pleases with the video streaming market. This was just the best that Netflix could do IMO. If Apple wants it, it’s theirs to take. More people use their devices, they have almost 6 times the subscribers netflix has (though many are just buying music, their habits could easily be swayed) and they make more money for studios than anyone else.
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
Honestly whatever.....
Its only like $15 now for everything…. and we can watch it in any of the bedrooms or the 2 living rooms……… It does seem like a stupid price hike when it is a tough economic time for a lot of people.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Completely nonsensical
In what way is streaming movies and mailing DVDs the same product? They’re completely different services, other than the fact that they involve movies.
A more apt metaphor would be if you ran an ice cream and steak shop. They’re both food, sure, but it’s difficult to handle the logistics of ice cream and steak at the same time. So you decide you’re going to open up a steak shop and an ice cream shop separately. And then everyone is mad at you because they liked having ice cream and steak together, even though the only reason they liked that was because you were the one who came up with that crazy idea in the first place.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You left out the part where the Steak and Ice Cream shop decided to raise their prices.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that not allowed?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
Sure, it's allowed
But to act surprised when customers flip out about it is more than a little ingenuine.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
And yes, I get to make up words now whenever I want!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the level of flipping out was over the top
My first exposure to it was everyone losing their minds. So, I figured NetflixQuickster had done something crazy stupid. Then, I read about what they did and all I could think was, “Really? That’s it?”
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by marcello on Sep 21, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this comment.
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Generally when someone raises prices it isn’t 60% or whatever Netflix did.
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stating it in percentage terms is kind've disingenuous
Prices went up, what, 5 bucks?
I have a streaming-only package. My price went up 0.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I don’t think it’s disingenuous at all.
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Disingenuous is the wrong word
I was just trying to say it’s not a large increase in absolute terms.
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It depends on what you used the service for.
My wife and I tried Netflix about a year ago and was frustrated by 1) the lack of streaming content and 2) the need to rely upon the mail service which means you only get one to two DVD a week (which was usually about 1-2 hours of entertainment).
When Netflix split the services, a user would be forced to 1) rely solely on the streaming service with severely limited choices, 2) rely on a slow serving mail service that restricted viewing schedules or 3) pay extra for the same service they had previously.
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I wouldn’t mind the price increase on the streaming part if it meant more selection.
But as of now, it means less selection.
So that sucks.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's $7.99 now. Does $9.99/month get us to being able to stream
everything they have up there now + all their DVD-only material?
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, the sense of entitlement is unbelievable. The reason you can’t get unlimited whatever you want for a measly $8/month is because the studios don’t want you to. Everyone screams at Netflix but this is all about content owners controlling the release windows to maximize profit, and playing distributors like Netflix and cable on-demand against each other to prevent monopsony power like Amazon has for books and iTunes for music. Blame them.
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by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry if I mis-interpreted. It just sounded like a different version of the comments I see elsewhere which sound like “Why can’t I get all the content I want on streaming? Netflix sux!!” My point is that content choices are not about Netflix per se.
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by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that. The studios want more money.
Netflix could raise the streaming price. Would my paying an extra two dollars a month give Netflix enough money to pay for the licensing fees that studios want to charge for more content? That’s all I meant.
Of course, the studios will raise prices exponentially and there is no “fair value” they would assign to their catalogs.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
this sounds the argument that people made about why streaming music would not work…yet Pandora/iTunes are doing pretty darn well.
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It’s getting easier for us to rip and transfer full movies, but part of the reason why music pirating is so pervasive is just the smaller file sizes.
When movies are as easy to upload/download as .mp3s, then, yes, the situation will be exactly as you describe it.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
sure
but technology is catching up. It took a technological improvement in the ipod to get digital music off the ground.
With more and more powerful portable device (i.e. smartphones and ipads), streaming video will be dominant form of visual media.
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With more and more powerful portable device (i.e. smartphones and ipads), streaming video will be dominant form of visual media.
This is what bugs me so much about caps on usage.
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Yet another way of old media companies failing to grasp the future…
It annoys me that the the average broadband speed in the US is 4.8 mps while it’s 61 mbps in Japan and 46 mbps in SK.
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I don’t feel bad about being a little slower but shit man it’s not even close.
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Then this is going to make you feel happy
The Korea Communications Commission is working on plans that will boost broadband speeds in that country tenfold by the end of 2012. That means Koreans will access 1 Gbps service by 2012. That’s 200 times as fast as your typical 5 Mbps DSL connection sold in the U.S. At present, Koreans can get speeds of up to 100 Mbps from their broadband providers. Availability of such high-speed connections has allowed Korea to emerge as a leader in the MMO and online gaming industries. Even higher broadband speeds are going to unveil many new usage scenarios, which can lead to new company creation.
Oh yeah:
The efforts are part of giving Korean IT infrastructure a boost, according to KCC. The plan is going to cost about $24.6 billion and will create 120,000 jobs.
http://gigaom.com/2009/02/01/by-2012-koreans-will-get-a-gigabit-per-second-broadband-connection/
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We have slow access here because of capitalism, right? So… fuck Korea.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
THESE COLORS DON'T RUN
They just download really slowly.
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yeah
it’s pretty much ran by the chaebols but it still works out okay…
Heck, Singapore is pretty much a dictatorship.
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by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
With more and more powerful portable device (i.e. smartphones and ipads), streaming video will be dominant form of visual media.
This.
So let’s see…I can either get a DVD through mail which takes at least a day, which I can watch on my TV, or I could stream it and watch it anywhere instantly.
Tough one.
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iTunes isn’t streaming. Yet.
(Won’t actually be “streaming”, more like an on-the-fly locker service.)
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Sense of entitlement?
So I should spend my 8 bucks even if there’s very little I want to watch on streaming?
Seems there is a sense of entitlement from some people telling others how to valuate their spending.
If it’s worth it, more power to you. But they are offering less and charging more (or in some cases, the same). The consumer has every right to vote with his pocketbook – not sure how that’s a “sense of entitlement”.
Seriously – I can only watch Hobo with a Shotgun so many times! I need more choices!
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s actually just in my queue – I’m expecting it to be horrible crap. Delightful horrible crap.
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So vote.
Cancel your subscription and go find your content elsewhere (good luck!!). But really, just stop complaining about how it’s all Netflix’s fault. You’re blaming the wrong party.
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by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
But really, just stop complaining about how it’s all Netflix’s fault. You’re blaming the wrong party.
Didn’t realize I was doing that, but ok.
But they are offering less and charging more
The “they” here being Netflix. If you’re blaming someone else, I have to admit it’s very subtle.
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by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not blame, that's fact
I’m not denying there are outside reasons behind their decision making.
Tell me this though, why should I (as a consumer) care about anything other than the cursory “their product isn’t as valuable as it used to be, but it costs more”? Do I owe Netflix some sort of loyalty? I’ve paid the monthly fee they’ve asked over time and have received a fair value. Now it appears that may be changing.
Full disclaimer: I don’t plan on getting rid of Netflix yet. I downgraded my mailing package to “two at a time” which costs pretty much the same as my previous package. But if they are looking to phase out the physical side over time, then their streaming needs to improve, bottom line.
I worry about old movies. I’d bet nobody is streaming “Harvey” if dvd’s go away… what happens to all the old movies?
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That's what happens with every tech advancement.
We lost some movies on VHS to DVD, DVD to Blu Ray to streaming.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s the thing — if physical objects disappear and everything goes streaming, how will the re-release stuff in shiny, expensive new formats every ten years?
Exactly why the studios are so anal about getting full $$ for streaming rights. Physical media sales have provided the majority of studio profits for decades, and format refreshes always goosed sales for a while. But now the format refresh gravy train has run off the rails, and physical media are going to die a slow death.
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see music industry.
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don't kid yourself
Netflix is not a social movement, it’s a business like every other business. It needs to provide a service at a price that people thinks is reasonable.
It is Netflix’s job to maintain a balance between content and price. It has done poorly at that.
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bravo corn
I think that’s the epicfail aspect of the whole thing.
You’re supposed to raise the prices, then wait a few months, then cut the services.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
wouldn’t mind the price increase on the streaming part if it meant more selection.
This is the whole point.
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And?
All I see is content shrinking. Starz walked away AFTER the price increase.
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What if Starbucks raised their price for coffee ‘only’ 5 bucks? It makes me much less likely to buy it and if I’m a person who regularly bought their coffee it would certainly put me off.
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If they raised their prices 5 dollars a month, it wouldn't be that big of a deal.
Netflix raised prices 15 cents a day. The horror!
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Do you buy coffee more than once a month?
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No I make it at home.
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Is it fair trade coffee sourced from a coop?
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co-op*
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Ewwwww chicken coop-poop coffee. Yech.
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Sure
But that’s half truez? The price of the ice cream stayed the same, but they raised the price of steak because it was getting more an more expensive to get licensing rights and pay shipping costs for the cows.
Or something.
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It would be more analogous to having a drive through window or a walk-in restaurant. Netflix is in the business of delivery movie/tv/entertainment content…the difference between mail and streaming is the method of delivery, not the content itself.
Netflix used to be a restaurant that had both a walk-in section and a drive through, now it has split off into two restaurants, one with only a drive thru and the other with only a walk-in section.
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You left out the part where the food distributors are angry that they were selling food cheaply and robbing them of profits.
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I understand the dilemma Netflix is in
the studio are squeezing out the margins and raising prices but this is no different than what happened in music. All of the studios were resistant to streaming/download media until they had no choice.
Movie/tv studios are far behind on the curve but eventually they will see that third party distributors like Netflix is the way to go.
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Yeah, well, I want my TV shows now. Eventually isn’t fast enough!
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Right
but it’s up to Netflix to convince the studios of that early on in the process. Instead, Netflix relied on their old model of just buying a DVD and distributing it.
They got into the streaming game and did not know what to do with it.
Netflix scooped the traditional video stores by delivering the DVDs to you rather than you having to go to the store…but now it is getting scooped by online media like Amazon and Itunes.
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With different menus. That you can’t compare at the same time. You have to go from one restaurant to the other to find out what you can get at each.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, no
Because the way that you prepare the food, the logistics behind the product, are the same whether you serve it on a plate in the restaurant or out the window of the drive through.
The logistics behind delivering the product online or via mail are completely separate – separate contract negotiations, separate costs structures, separate everything. It’s two different restaurants with two menus and two supply chains being run out of one building for no reason other than the fact that they always have – except now it doesn’t make sense to.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
he logistics behind the product, are the same whether you serve it on a plate in the restaurant or out the window of the drive through.
This is patently untrue.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The food is prepared the same, at least.
The delivery is different. But when you’re streaming vs mailing, both the preparation and the delivery are different.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
This oversimplifies the situation. To be fair, I can live with having the services separated. One of my issues is that right now I can search for something on the Netflix site, and if it’s available to stream, I can add it to that queue. If it’s not, I can add it to my DVD queue. With two different websites, I’ll have to double my efforts to track down a movie. Also, I do admit using the recommendations on occasion to find new things. With two websites, my recommendations will be limited based on what I can find to stream vs. what I have to get by DVD.
It’s taken much of the convenience and pleasant aspects of Netflix and spit on them, and tells me that they really just don’t give a crap.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
The lack of integration is a frustrating aspect
But everyone acting like mailing movies to people and streaming movies over the internet go hand in hand is a little nuts – it’s a completely different business model on both ends. Trying to run a company with two separate corporate strategies is crazy.
My hunch is that eventually they’ll figure out some way to link the sites.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Well, either that or physical media will finally die off
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That's at least five years away, I think.
But since the economy is going to crater and it will just be servants and masters, it won’t really matter.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Steve Jobs wants to make it reality now!
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that’s the implication – Netflix either wants to let it die (that’s why Netflix kept the name for streaming, and gave the DVD part a dumb name) or it wants to sell it. Either way, it’s not long for this world.
Which would be fine with me and EVERYTHING could be streamed. The streaming selection continues to shrink (and will take a big hit in February). But it feels too much like they want to make us all stream, but aren’t giving us any significant value in doing so.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
This...
Netflix never fully understood that streaming was the future until now. Instead, it kept talking about how great their mail collection is. Netflix failed to jump from a mail DVD service supplemented by a streaming service to a streaming service supplemental by a mailing catalog.
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I look at it very cavemanish, although I see the business reasons for Netflix' decision
“I want movie, Netflix no want to send movies anymore”
“Netflix want me watch shows online”
“Netflix not have what I want online”
“Me not pay anymore. Me club Bruce Bochy”
I may have digressed on that last part.
It's always relevant.
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My hunch is that eventually they’ll figure out some way to link the sites.
Wait…they already have this…it was called Netflix circa 2010.
Many other sites have done this well and without problems. Amazon can ship a DVD to you, sell the DVD electronically, and provide you with a streaming service.
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Amazon doesn't rent DVDs.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Well, they went hand-in-hand for a certain company called Netflix
Now, they don’t. What was once convenient now becomes less convenient.
Sure
And it’s less convenient for my hypothetical customers to get their ice cream and steak in two separate stores.
But that doesn’t mean it isn’t a good business decision divide and conquer if the logistics of the two aspects of your business are incompatible.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It appears there was a pretty significant population that enjoyed ice cream and steak
Someone ought to try to corner that market.
Except either ice cream or steak is going to disappear from the face of the earth in another decade or so.
Now I’m confused.
Why is it incompatible?
Companies can successfully integrate a streaming video service with traditional merchant services but it’s impossible to integrate a streaming video service with a mail order rental service?
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Is it possible? Maybe
But Netflix obviously decided it wasn’t cost effective. They would be the ones to know, right?
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
or maybe
they screwed it up and now it’s not cost-effective.
The other issue is that Netflix put too much emphasis on movies…I for one would be fine with getting movie via mail but I generally like watching several episodes of TV in one sitting. This is only really possible with streaming.
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If Netflix could provide you with all the content you wanted, they would.
I don’t get why people blame Netflix for the intransigence of rights-holders.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I think "blame" is the wrong word
I don’t “blame” them so much as it just affects the value of their service for me. Maybe they are just a business model that can’t hold up in the future?
You’re missing the point. If such limitations exist, don’t increase the cost and then split off the limited business. I had no complaints two months ago when I paid my $10 or $11 a month for DVDs and whatever streaming they could offer.
But you charge me the full $7.99 for streaming and then reduce what’s available? Then I have a problem.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose
But I still think that 8 dollars for what they have online is cheap. It’s 25 cents a day.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
The problem is (and I use the word “problem” loosely), people now feel entitled to a certain service at a certain price.
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Netflix has the buffet model…it’s not about the price for the individual…but rather to meet a collective threshold. The more audience/subscriber that Netflix say, the more clout it has to negotiate with the studios.
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I think it was the opposite. Why would the studio want you to use Netflix? Wouldn’t they prefer to sell you the DVD?
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sure
but no one is buying the DVDs…most people now a days watch the content and forget about it. It’s about the now and what I can talk about with my friend.
I mean seriously, how many people really go back and watch their DVD collections?
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I agree.
But I think the studios don’t like that and refuse to acknowledge nobody wants their crappy dvds.
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This is where you’re wrong. They still sell plenty of DVDs. And on-demand viewings at $4-8. That’s where they make their money. Netflix only offers pennies per view, so they want to make damn sure content is not available there until the people who are willing to pay more for it have done so.
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by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm too lazy to look it up
but DVD sales have plummeted in the past 3-4 years with the raise in online/instant viewing.
On-demand and Netflix are slightly different models…On Demand would be your high-end restaurant while Netflix would be your buffet restaurants. No one expects netflix to have every show immediately but it is not unreasonable to think that Netflix should get shows from past seasons.
personal example, my wife liked the Real Housewives shows…so we subscribed to Netflix…and it had season one of the RH of OC available online…the rest were DVD only…
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Yes, DVD sales are heading down, but they still bring in far more revenue than any other source. Studios know the transition is underway. No sense in putting up the white flag now, though. If they can still get you to buy the Real Housewives Season 1-76 Box Set for your wife’s birthday present, precisely because that’s the only way she can get all the shows, they’re damn well not going to release it all to Netflix.
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except that’s just not true. Because the vast majority of people will never buy DVDs of the RH…but many of those people would watch it if it was available on Netflix.
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Of course
I never said Netflix was dumb…just short-sighted.
They drove all the video stores out of business but failed to grasp the streaming video concept.
They could have been Hulu (which was the studio’s answer to Netflix) and convinced the studios to work them on providing content. Instead, they sat on their lead and allowed the studios and other companies to step in.
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One thing they could have done
was to have a tiered system where one pays more for select content (i.e. Showtime/HBO).
In short, I think Netflix just never grasped the concept that streaming was the future and kept talking about how extensive their mail DVD catalog was…
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HBO Go has been in the cards for a while,
so, they were never going to do that. And Starz has been very inconsistent with Netflix, but I think they’re finally pulling out altogether.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
sure
but Netflix could have offer a good deal as a partnership rather than having HBO maintain a stream on its own. It’s pretty much the music model for iTunes…
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I don't think HBO wants to partner with anybody.
HBO Go is their first step in trying to work around the cable companies altogether, actually.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems pretty smart and I love HBO GO so far.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I agree. Cable has always been the middleman
in a subscription service.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe
but it seems like added service for people already subscribing to HBO…not an independent service
I mean, HBO Go would not entice me to subscribe to HBO but if HBO offered its show on Netflix, I may pay more to watch the shows.
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Isn’t that the same thing? Either way you pay more for HBO shows.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Yeah
I really wish I could pay 20 bucks a month or something for online-only access to that.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Now that the Franchise is over (in so many ways) I think I’ll quit Showtime and go back to HBO. Is Game of Thrones still on demand?
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Time Warner charges me for dropping subscriptions. It’s annoying. $3 to lose Starz might be worth it, though.
I’m keeping Showtime for Dexter (once more unto the breach) and Homeland, which looks promising.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what I'm saying.
If I didn’t have cable and I wanted to watch everything HBO has ever made, I would pay $15-$20/month for access.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely. Or just use my sister's login :D
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Is HBO more than that, tho?
I guess it depends on your service. I don’t think I"m paying much more, maybe 30 bucks. Worth it.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
We have HBO + Showtime for $15 total for the year… and I think HBO is just $12-$15 on its own.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
most cable company make you buy their elevate tier service and the cable box to get HBO…
I mean I would be more receptive to getting HBO if it meant I could keep my $20 tv service plus whatever HBO charges.
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this is our problem
We’d have to sign up for a new basic programming package because they don’t offer the one we have any more.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
But you have to subscribe in order to get it.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
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HBO Go isn’t offered through Time Warner Cable-LA.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't seem like -- it is.
But HBO is more than willing to offer HBO Go as an app/subscription that anyone can download and use regardless of their cable subscription, but the cable companies would burn Time Warner to the ground.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
HBO will never offer their big-name miniseries and movies for download the way they do their series.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually
Not sure how you come to the conclusion that they failed to grasp streaming. They have way more streaming customers than any other service. Netflix has understood that the future was streaming all along, but it has only recently become technically viable to do streaming as an independent business. They’re having a rough time transitioning, in no small part due to their own goofs, but this is not a new idea for them.
Also Netflix was poised to buy Hulu but the studios vetoed it because they need to keep Netflix from being too dominant.
So really, once again, we come back to the content owners.
Giants baseball: Together We're Crippled
by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
And Les Moonves has hinted that anyone who buys Hulu
is being setup, as the companies that contribute content might not once it’s sold. In other words, content might not be a part of a Hulu sale.
by Every6thDay on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The numbers I saw
Netflix lost ~4% of their customer base. I think they raised prices by a bit more than that. It sounds like they might know what they’re doing.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
We’d need to see who kept both streaming and DVD, and who opted for just one. Because those subscribers are now paying less than before. And if there are fewer of them, that’s not a recipe for win.
Plus the stock has been hammered. That’s not good for investors or the company. Also a problem.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
But I'm sure that the profit margins on streaming customers are higher.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Question
Have more pixels been killed on the internet discussing Netflix or Brandon Belt?
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
Netflix
By like 109 Million %
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by TheAntiBork on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Until the studios gouge Netflix for licensing fees. Or pull their content.
One of the supporting reasons for the higher streaming fees was the increased cost of providing content. So perhaps the profit margins won’t be all that much more.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Geez NHL wastes no time with cuts. Training camp, or whatever they call it, opened Saturday and already they’re dropping like flies.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Mike Modano
really disliked the guy for playing on the Stars but loved him on the USA hockey team.
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he's also like 85 years old
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Listen, if he wants to make it work in a heterosexual marriage, I’m not going to stop him.
BUT WIFE SWAP WTF.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
This PacBell Park is bad for offense B
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Sep 21, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions
well, that was weird.
Anyway, this BS has to stop. It’s an average/fair park. The only place it really hurts anything is the right field alley. Oh no’s…a few fly balls a year get caught or are triples.
Why does the media and the team itself continue to lie about the park. It doesn’t help the team in any way.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Sep 21, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
anybody drink rakija before?
Ive just had 2 shots of it and its fucking gross
by ir1shgiant on Sep 21, 2011 12:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If it’s so gross, why did you have the second shot?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
i thought i could withstand it
but now i feel sick haha
win
Maybe you have to drink through the disgusting candy shell to get to the gum in the center!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
innerestin.
Rakia (also Rakija or Raki or Rachiu) is an alcoholic beverage that is produced by distillation of fermented fruit; it is a popular beverage throughout the Balkans. Its alcohol content is normally 40% ABV, but home-produced rakia can be stronger (typically 50% to 60%). Prepečenica is double-distilled rakia which has an alcohol content that may exceed 60%.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Steak and ice cream: yes or no?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Avocado frozen custard!!
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I about to jump into Normandy?
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The Kila monster has been DFA'd
SWOOP SABES
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I've got TV repairman over right now
First, they’re two older white guys (yes, older than me, even). Not what I expected.
Second, they seem to have no frakkin’ clue as to what they’re doing. My HD TV is in pieces on my family room floor, and they keep looking at a manual one of them printed out before they came. I keep hearing things like “Do you think we need to take this part out” answered by a long look at the new part and the TV and “Yeah, I thinks so.”
I’m not confident right now.
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Porno plot!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You can imagine what happens next.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
They are not attractive men. At all. Not a bit.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I only ever see attractive men on mine …
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a Big Lebowski reference.
The response I was looking for was, “He fixes the cable?”
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Congratulations!
It sounds like you won’t be able to watch Dana Eveland shut out the Giants tonight.
"The definition of insanity is startjng Orlando Cabrera over and over again and expecting different results"--Albert Einstein
That doesn’t sound good.
Maybe they were expecting olde tyme tv’s with dials and tubes and such
Ooooh I know! Sick the lizard on them!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That reminds me – I need to see if it’s still alive.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatcha gunna check it with? A blowtorch?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
This is my kid’s pet lizard – she has been seeming lethargic of late. She seems okay for now.
I also had to feed my other kid’s betta fish its lunch.
It’s like a damn zoo here.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
What are you feeding it, and is it warm enough?
I’m actually wanting to get a lizard … keeps the cat occupied. She chases them around the tank, from the outside.
Found out the other day that skinks like the one in our back patio, is available at a pet store near you for $125-175 !!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
We’re feeding it some anode food – looks like little flies.
I’m less certain about the keeping it warm part – I put her in a nice warm spot in the morning, and she seems to like that. But when the sun is no longer shining in my kid’s room, she seems sad.
So I’m looking for a heater for her today.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
HA. I had my power supply replaced in a jiffy by this old Filipino guy who said he’d been fixing TVs forever. “Dees new flatscreen, is so easy,” he scoffed. “You just take out di power supply. That’s it.”
The power supply he gave me was also from the defective Samsung batch. The next day my warranty ended.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I love James Sheilds' goofy pre-pitch motion.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Hay guise. Anyone have any opinions on the recent Netflix news??
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Not a team company! Only streams when it doesn’t count! Raises prices in the clutch!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Brittle!
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Homespun loincloths! Just like Gandhi used to make!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks shopped.
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by can of corn on Sep 21, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. Definitely.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Aren’t we IN the Milky Way, though?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Mayor of Smug.
Correct. On the edge of it. Which is why the rest of it is visible to us.
We like in the boonies of the galaxy.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s like an isolated spur of an arm. Everybody else (assuming there are every bodies who care) sees a whole lot more crowded crap.
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t know that.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
According to today’s edits of Wiki, it’s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion–Cygnus_Arm
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh, so there are only two arms.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Two major arms, since it’s a barred spiral.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Milky_Way_Arms_ssc2008-10.svg
I rhyme with freak.
these signs dont mean anything right?
ive seen him everywhere in san francisco
Bully for you Mr. ImNattoAndIKnowEverythingBecauseImMrSmartModAndIDrawGood.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
His middle name is NicestGuyOnTheFaceOfTheEarth
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
/fry squint
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
We can see the other arms
I rhyme with freak.
by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
mmm....
Milky Way
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Western Spiral Arm
Zed Zed Nine Plural Zed Alpha
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
1123 6536 5321
/All Along the Watchtower
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by shanghaijim on Sep 21, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Pictures or it didn't happen.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I like Ben Zobrist
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Better he know now than down the road.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Ben Zobrist: “Look, DFARowand, you knew we were just having fun, right?”
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
DFA Rowand’s shoulder slumped. Zobrist’s expression changed as the realization sank in.
“Oh, man,” he said. “I thought you…”
DFARowand waved a hand dismissively. “Nah, I shoulda known. Don’t worry about it.”
He waited until he got back in his car, and Zobrist had walked out of sight, to unleash his tears.
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Weak
He had Natto tell him. Couldnt even pick up the phone. It’s almost as bad as a text.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Fucking fucks
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
but teh Yankees have no pitcherz
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yo Joe Maddon come be the manager of the Giants and you won't have to play the Yankees and Boston every week and I'll love you forever and you'll play Brandon Belt right?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
McC's courtship process:
1. Bochy: Will you please play Brandon Belt? “No.”
2. Reyes: Will you please come play in SF? “No.”
3. Beltran: Will you please stay here? It’s a vocal minority that blames you. “No.”
4. Maddon: Will you come take over the team? …
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
AZ's up 3-0 in the bottom of the first
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions
LOL U
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. Stolen 6/11/11.
Job 1:14-15
Yankees take the lead
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Go Brewers.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Sadly
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
AL playoff is going to be a crapshot
you can make an argument that the Tigers have a legit chance of winning the AL pennant with Verlander going 3 times in a series.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Maybe if the Tigers make the World Series again, this time their pitchers will know how to play defense.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 21, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Where's
Billy Chapel when you need him?
For some reason, I liked Doyle Alexander as a player when I was a kid.
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Yessir!
I loves me some Prince.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I thought that was funny
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I did not.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
nor did I
and that’s when I stopped associating the Brewers with Robin Yount and started associating them with Tony Plush and Prince “Run the Catcher” Fielder.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A
Still at jury duty, and haven’t been called to a courtroom yet. They gave us a two hour lunch. I bought some stuff at Victoria’s Secret, and almost ran into a policeman on horseback walking through the outdoor mall.
What’s up with everyone?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Not much. Just talking about underwear and Netflix.
You know – the usual.
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Sounds about right. It’s funny that I was buying underwear while you guys were talking about it. Anything interesting I missed in that conversation?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Lars goes commando in jeans. TL2 may or may not like to dangle.
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Wow.
That is… Far more information than I expected to get.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
You did ask.
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/gestures towards crotch
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
which courthouse are you in?
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Downtown Sacramento.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I’ve been there a few times…except they sent me to the annex building which was weird…
I like the airport in sacramento.
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I think something like that is likely to happen here. I am pretty sure they could have dismissed us before lunch, thus saving me the trouble of wasting 2 hours. That said, I’d rather be going out to lunch and walking around downtown Sac than at work, so they can keep us all day, as far as I’m concerned.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
last time
I sat in the room like all day, and then got sent to a courtroom on Polk Street, where we filled out questionnaires for a case I could never, ever, ever be impaneled for. Waste of time.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 21, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
NEW THREAD
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
BUT WHAT IF I WANT TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT UNDERWEAR?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
You guys seen this?
It’s kind of burried on ESPN’s front page.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7000379&categoryid=2378529
RIP 2011 Giants Post Season
I know that woman’s brother. She has been 86’d many, many times. She is insane, but not in a good way.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus, they are stealing the bleachers’ ’he’s a bum!’ chant.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
She’s got cray-z eyes.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I am hesitant to even link him to this due to the embarrassment he will experience.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 21, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
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