Post-Game Thread: When All is Darkest...
One of the two teams playing in this game had a fairly epic meltdown in the 8th inning tonight.
It was not the Giants.
The ninth inning still made you feel like things were going to turn out poorly, of course, (how, exactly, did Santiago Casilla end up as Bruce Bochy's most trusted reliever? I don't understand) but in the end, it was the Rockies who screwed up tonight, not the Giants, and I think we can all take some level of relief out of that.
The Giants are five back with ten to play. Stranger things have happened, but not many. Someone please post the dumpster "We're in this thing" macro in the comments; I don't have it readily available.
Some thoughts, since I am trusted and what I think is better than what you think:
- Through four starts, Eric Surkamp looks almost nothing like the kind of pitcher he was in the minors. There's been a lot more walks, for one thing. A lot more. He's faced some pretty mediocre lineups as well. My enthusiasm for Surkamp has been tempered a bit by this late season showing, but I still think I'd rather have him as the fifth starter next year than Zito.
- I always kind of felt like, after the endless parades of PCL pseudo-prospects who have been called up over the pas ten years, it was going to be Brett Pill who actually managed to stick, out of those. (Come to think of it, that might be unfair to Nate Schierholtz.) It's obviously far too early to say and it bears repeating that Pill's Fresno numbers this year came nowhere close to the lines put up by guys like John Bowker and Todd Linden (to say nothing of Brandon Belt, who does not belong on the PCL pseudo-prospect list), but maybe there's a place for Brett Pill on the Giants next year. That's only true if it's not at the expense of Belt, but hey, I think I'd rather see him next year than Aubrey Huff.
- Re-sign Voltron. Dude can hit.
- Grant's original mail-it-in-cause-I'm-on-vacation Post-Game Thread included this gif and I think I would be remiss not to include it here.

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Magic Number 16
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Sep 17, 2011 9:26 PM PDT reply actions
A magic number > # of games remaining is very euphemistic. How appropriate.
by non sequitur on Sep 17, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm is that gif frozen for everyone?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yes, maam
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
good ones?
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Your mom's a girl
What kind? Where can I get them?
Rally Jerry!
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LIBERAL USE OF CAPS
Shit
I meant to reply to Natto.
Rally Jerry!
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LIBERAL USE OF CAPS
You were right to consult the Doctor.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 18, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
ok I think I fixed it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Grant put you in charge and you go fuck it up in one day??!?! The overlord will not be pleased
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
what is the significance of this at-bat?
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
look carefully at who’s pitching
and who’s hitting
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
spoilers
pitching: Cody Ross
hitting: Pedro Feliz
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
There are commas before and after the parenthetical statement
Aren’t you an English teacher?
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
i love commas and parantheticals
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
wait
should the comma be before or after it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I went with before
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I love commas and parenthesis too. It’s my passive-aggressive way of creating run-on sentences.
there shouldn’t be a comma after “of course”, I believe
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Grammar is like an after thought for english teachers
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
As for me
I love grammar. I love my grampa, too.
That was one of my favorite bad jokes when I was teaching reading/writing classes.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
From what I remember
Grades 1-though-6 were about learning to spell. Grades 7 and up were reading stuff and discussing it. I don’t think I had an actual hardcore grammar primer until my freshman year of college.
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Wow. I remember diagramming sentences in 6th grade.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
No it isn’t. And I are one.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 17, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Similes are more their style.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 18, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
shanghaijim did a great thread of ASOIAF mottos Giants-ized in the second GDT
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
just like the martells!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
you can find it here!
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/9/17/2432280/beat-cola-thread-2#77633516
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yeah, I went back and read it
Then I was like “Well, mine won’t be that good.”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
I like the Martells
The Tyrells clearly have the worst words though, right? I mean, it’s not even close.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
I like the Martells too
They’ve just been pretty useless thus far
But yeah, Tyrell words are the worst, not counting some of the random minor houses.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
lol arianne's queenmaker plot
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I like this guy. He looks almost perfect. I can't even see an effin' ERA on ths guy. Where would I go to find one?
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 17, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
An aside
I used to find it amusing when Waldis Joaquin and Justin Miller were up in the pen at the same time because together they made the name of a prominent Western poet of the 19th century.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I got married in Joaquin Miller park.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 18, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Whenever I see that I always think “Joaquin Murrieta Park”. Which would also be a cool place to get married.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
wow, 9:30?
These early games are killing me.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I say we stick with Jponry writing the PGT until something goes bad
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 17, 2011 9:30 PM PDT reply actions
seriously, the Dodgers realigned their pitching staff just so we’d see Kershaw? they do that everytime, and only to us- AZ didn’t Kershaw a few times. I’d bean Kemp until the benches are warned for that bullshit.
mlb.com has all their starters as TBD
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To be fair, they probably did it because they want Kershaw to get the Cy. The Giants have the shittiest offense…. so it makes sense for them to change things up so he can pitch against the Giants.
by fishmicmuffin on Sep 17, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck no
that’s the way it should be. if the forgets were fighting for their playoff lives is want the gmen to realign the rotation so they faced Cain lincecum and bumgarner. it is as it should be. it is known.
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Sep 17, 2011 9:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Fuck no
that’s the way it should be. if the forgets were fighting for their playoff lives is want the gmen to realign the rotation so they faced Cain lincecum and bumgarner. it is as it should be. it is known.
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Sep 17, 2011 9:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
of course we should have to face Kershaw. I’d want them to beat us with their best.
but what pisses me off is that a couple times, they didn’t realign their rotation so AZ would face Kershaw
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s the only thing that pathetic franchise has to live for, so what else would they do? It makes them look petty, but that’s because they are. I will guarantee everyone here that after this season they take their new Fox money and Colletti uses it to sign Carlos Beltran.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
It is only right to have to face Kershaw. Holy shit, we played the Tigers and missed Verlander
did we ever face Halladay this season? I know we missed Lee ad Halladay in our 3 game series in Philadelphia. No, we need to nut up as Kruk would say and beat the shit out of Kershaw. After all, one of the wins the Bags had was Ransom taking Kershaw over the wall for a game winner. If we are going to defeat karma, we need to defeat it head on.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 17, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
see above. i got no problem with facing Kershaw. it’s just that they didn’t realign it vs the dbags a couple times thats weak.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Jose Valverde
The dude is 45 for 45 in save attempts with a 2.44 ERA. The Giants managed to score three earned runs off him!
Also, I think the Charlie Manuel ment for Roy Halladay to miss the Giants.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 17, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
by the way
have you seen Valverdes numbers in non-save situations? he sucks!!
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
He always seems to be nervous and stressed out when closing games. Don’t they have a top setup man?
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 17, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair
If the tables were reversed, I would want the Giants to do the same thing. That’s not to say that it isn’t fucking bullshit, of course.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
do you know if Kershaw is actually slated for SF? they have an off-day Monday which is weird, but allows for Kershaw to pitch without being on short rest.
once again though, I just don’t like that they realign Kershaw to face us, but didn’t do that vs AZ a couple times this season
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
bring him on; we’re due to whip his ass
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
was it just a dream I had, or did we get like 5 runs off him in 4 innings earlier this year with bloops and bleeders?
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Hehe Brett Pill is trending in SF
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
LOL first read it as "Pill is traded"
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by Penitentiary Face on Sep 17, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
what I think is better than what you think
I also am not a fan of this ego our new leader has grown.
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do you want to wake the dragon?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
ban him, my lady
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
do it! do it! put me out of my misery!!
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
how much sleep you getting these days?
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Your mom's a girl
maybe 3 hours a night, if I’m lucky? I’ve been getting more sleep between calls at the dept than I have been at home.
my body is all messed up.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
WE'RE MATHEMATICALLY IN THIS THING
The first six innings are overrated.
Brett Pill!
Our shortstop dilemma is solved!
…
Because he played second in the minors, you see.
…
Therefore he’ll be our starting shortstop next year.
…
Imagine a first basemen’s bat at shortstop!!!!
…
/clears throat
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
Why is Freddy Sanchez on my computer?
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
At first he saw “Brett Pill”… Then he saw “at shortstop”…
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Oh, there is a computer screen just off the third base line
That makes sense, I guess.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
I didn't say it was a bad thing
It was a I didn’t know why thing.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
Casilla
I actually think it is possible the Giants are trying to pad Casilla’s stats. He has “closer stuff”. Maybe they want to get him some saves to put on his resume so they can ship him somewhere. Seems like something that the Baltimore or Seattle would fall for.
I've got 99 problems and the Boch is one
by milesntrane on Sep 17, 2011 9:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Or they actually think he's a really good reliever
Because of the sparkly ERA.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
he pitches the ninth inning
he must be the closer!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions
This would be pretty smart
so I don’t think that’s what they’re doing.
The first six innings are overrated.
seems to be doing the job for the most part
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
but I guess that saves don’t really mean anything
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Since they think they’re still alive they wouldn’t be risking games to showcase Casilla. They think he’s the best man for the job, and I’m not sure they’re wrong. Of course Romo is better, but what’s the difference who pitches the eighth and who pitches the ninth? Casilla can just as easily blow the game in the eighth. The only time it matters is if the starter goes eight innings.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
To what end
The lack of offers Bell received should give you some idea of how relievers are being valued. If there was ever a time when a Proven Closer™ could be traded for a good hitter, it’s in the past.
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The Giants could have gotten Torrealba for Casilla earlier. I don’t see how it could get much better than that.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Casilla is actually turning into a very valuable reliever, or so it seems.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really. He’s just not giving up runs. He’s still doing everything wrong. Any GM should be able to figure that out, methinks. The time to trade him has passed.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
I’d have to look at his fangraphs page, which i dont have energy to do now
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Doing everything wrong
might be a little too harsh. He walking 4 per nine which sucks. But he is also striking out 8 per nine. That’s pretty good.
The thing that he can’t keep up is the tiny hit rate.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
Sure
I’d put that in the hit rate category.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
I guess in this case it really doesn’t matter, but that’s a dangerous assumption.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
I'm just saying it's something he can't keep up
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
"I don’t see how it could get much better than that."
Shithead could have actually made the deal, that’s how.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
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Today is Elvira’s 60th birthday.
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
She’s no Susan Sarandon.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Sep 17, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
like your tagline
Me! I remember the 1st Croix was against the Dodgers and Valenzuela. Tie game in the 10th when they pulled him out (maybe scoreless even). We had to bring back our ticket stubs b/c they ran out. We won the game, I do remember that
Man the team was on a shoestring budget in those days
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Sep 17, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
ohhh….signature
me is old
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Sep 17, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
BOOBS!
Is she speaking before congress? LOL
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 17, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like a facelift helped
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
wow
she looks way better than in all that get up that brought her fame.
kinda like how Jennifer Grey ruined her career by getting a nose job that made her more conventionally pretty.
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
I'm sure there's been surgical intervention in this case, but I don't know if that's true any more.
As recently as WWII a substantial portion of the population endured extended malnutrition at some point in their life. I wouldn’t be surprised if Baby Boomers, who by and large haven’t had to deal with that, age better.
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I saw a 60 minutes episode that said that starving yourself activates the “younth gene”.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 17, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
When you're old, maybe.
Starving yourself when you’re a child just activates the “life-long compromised immune system” gene.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Somebody call the Oak Ridge Boys!
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
holy crap, the Petaluma Racetrack* is really loud. We’re 3 miles away, and it sounds like its next door.
*not a real racetrack
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lol
yes. lets make this happen.
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
So we Petaluma Racetrack’d it last night. Was it good for you?
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
We can hear the race track at Cal Expo from here…sometimes. The wind has to be blowing just right. They had a motorcycle something or other there a few years ago. We spent the first day wondering where the hoard of angry buzzing hornets were.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
anybody else see the Mayweather fight?
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 17, 2011 9:48 PM PDT reply actions
Livin' on prayer
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 17, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
sucker headbutt(s)
Angel Villalona 1, DR police 0
by the nenth inning on Sep 17, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
so do you skip surkamp?
and go with cain timmy and vog against az next weekend?
Well I would, but the better questions is would Bochy?
After all, the man seems to be doing his very best to lose us games based on his lineups
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 17, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
we have an off day on Monday, I believe. So skipping Surkamp would be normal rest for everyone for the AZ series, right?
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Cain- Sun
Timmeh- Tues
bum- thurs
vsong- fri
cain- sat
timmeh- sun
surkamp- mon
bum- tues
vsong- wed
/end season
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
oh wow, I messed that up. skipped Wednesday.
someone else do it. I’m out
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by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
wwwwwwwaid a minnnit
you forgot a wednesday…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Timmy and Vogey pitch against LA.
Skipping Surkamp puts them on three days’ rest instead of four against Arizona.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
it would work out this way
Sun v COL – Cain
Tues v LAD – Timmy
Wed v LAD – Vogey
Thur v LAD – Bum
Fri v ARI – Cain
Sat v ARI – Timmy
Sun v ARI – Vogey
Mon v COL – Bum
Tue v COL – Surkamp
Wed v COL – Cain
Everyone on normal days rest. So yes, we could skip surkamp and have Cain Timmy VOgey for ARIZONA this weeekend
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 18, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Solomon Torres'd

You know that all this winning is just to build up our hopes so our hearts can be crushed at the end, right?
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 17, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
that was a brutal year.
thank god for 2012
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Sep 17, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Video: Prime 9 pennant race finishes
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19034181
Number 9: 1993 Braves/Giants
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 17, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
S. Torres
dammit, I wish I had the video of the mid season exhibition game between the Giants and the Phoenix Giants when they shipped Torres in for the game and he struck out Thrill, Mitchell and Williams in succession. It was shit like this that suddenly made Torres “off limits” to other teams.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 17, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Portal 1 finally finished downloading after about 4 hours and 20 minutes.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
hehehe
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I started to play a little and had no clue what the hell I was doing.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I got stuck in this room and couldn’t leave. I knew how to move around and pick up objects but not how to get out of that room.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I believe they give you some sort of gun to accomplish these tasks… I forget what the gun is called…..
The first six innings are overrated.
The first one you reach after you leave the area you start.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Actually, now that I think about it, I just figured it out. I have to put the object they want me to pick up on the platform thingy.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I think I might just be too old.
I should like Portal, but I can’t do it. #LOLOLD
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
You might be better at it than you think.
It’s been my experience that players over, say, 25, LOVE these games and devote weeks to trying to figure it out.
Younger kids tend to “like” it, but get frustrated and just google the walkthroughs when they get stuck.
THE FACT THAT IT’S HARD IS WHY IT’S FUN!!!!!
/shakes cane at kids and demands they get off his lawn
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
enjoy your cake
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Sep 17, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Tomorrow's a day game after a night game, so I have some hope for the lineup.
I imagine Pill will start because “hot hand,” etc., and Huff will hopefully sit.
Torres
Keppinger
Beltran
Sandoval
Belt
Pill
H Sanchez
Crawford
Cain
Hopefully….
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Depends on the pitching matchups.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Esmil Rogers is a righty, but it really shouldn’t matter. BORK
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Key word “shouldn’t”.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbs64GvGgPU
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’d dig that, though Huff has actually been good lately, but there is nowhere else to put Pill. So idk. But vs a RHP, at least no platooney tunes.
and with that, I’m out. Late dinner while we watch a movie. catch ya’ll later. hoping for sleep tonight…
<3 Kanani Madison
by giant4life83 on Sep 17, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
shit man, you add Posey to that lineup with Huff/Pill platoon and Kepp on the bench when Sanchez returns and I’m starting to get psyched for next season
by bernardking on Sep 18, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
i'd almost agree
except pill will bat ahead of Belt. And I could see Whiteside starting cause he usually catches cain. even though sanchez being a switch hitter would adhere to Bochy’s stupid platoon ideas (nothing to do with him actually being a better hitter of course…)
by you'vejustbeenCAINED on Sep 18, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
We can't complain really.
We wouldn’t be in this situation if we hadn’t lost the season series TO THE ASTROS
Those should have been cakewalk wins. We are talking about a 100 loss team kicking our ass.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 17, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Pittsburgh was good at the beginning of the season, maybe somebody go change all their calendars to “April”.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
AZ just lost a couple games to the Padres...
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
Hey, according to Timothy, pirates are awesome.
by non sequitur on Sep 17, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I worked with someone who thought that way. Then I pointed out the raping, pillaging, plundering, stealing, burning, and fighting. She took all her pirate crap down and her kids started behaving better.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Alrighty.. I think I’ll go to bed and reread Band of Misfits.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
"and the darkest hour is just before dawn"
… to quote Mama Cass.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
by drdata24 on Sep 17, 2011 10:03 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
She needs a fact checker.
You can see the eastern horizon light up just before dawn. And the darkest time of night is largely dependent on the phase of the moon.
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They must have a cardboard cutout of Rachel Phelps in the locker room
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The Khaleesi has come into her own
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Sep 17, 2011 10:05 PM PDT reply actions
jponry has put up PGTs two days in a row.
I assume this means Bochy will sit her tomorrow.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
by waelwulf on Sep 17, 2011 10:06 PM PDT reply actions 15 recs
Have a rec.
Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
outstanding
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Your mom's a girl
Unless she promises to practice her writing skills in the Dominican Republic this winter.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
by rxmeister on Sep 18, 2011 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
touchdown stanford
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Right after an almost-interception. Luck hasn’t looked that great today.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
i'm only half paying attention
BC lost to Duke LOL
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
i believe it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
But wait till hockey season starts!
That seems to be the sport that BC really cares about
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 17, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
lol you
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
O YE OF LITTLE FAITH
But yeah, the past 3-4 games that I’ve seen, Stanford’s come out really flat in the first half, almost as if they want to give the other team a sporting chance. And then they just decide actually to play in the second half. Like in the Orange Bowl. Or hell, even against Duke.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Stanford is dodging the real powers of college football
Like that tough Marauding Monks team that Cal just beat.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 18, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not really sure what they’re supposed to do. They’ve got to play 9 conference games; they’ve always played Notre Dame and nearly always played San Jose State. That leaves only one vacant slot, which they filled with Duke (dunno when that scheduling decision was made). And yeah, it was Duke, but at least it was at Duke.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I was jabbing at Cal there, but honestly, I think Stanford may be a bit overrated. They don’t look like the 6th best team in the nation right now.
Also, my understanding is that Cal only lined up that game against the Passing Popes because they were trying to dodge De La Salle!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 18, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree with the assessment that Stanford may be a bit overrated. I think it’s hard to get a good objective assessment of Stanford’s talent because everyone’s first (and usually only) reaction is OMG LUCK.
Also: ROAMING RECTORS
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VAGABOND VICARS
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 18, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Missed the game for a party
but man, that Crawford play was amazing. Please get some bats so we can play him at short.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
If he could develop a bat on his own, that would be nice.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
He’s just way too good defensively. So much wasted talent….
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
I wouldn’t categorize as such. He can have a career as a backup infielder.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Maybe, but his glove is really too good for him to be John McDonald forever.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
WOW
It looks so unremarkable as “J. Pacheco grounded out to shortstop” on Yahoo. Just saw the clip.
by non sequitur on Sep 17, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Most importantly in my mind: Cabrera doesn't make that play.
Remember that, Bochy, you SOB.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Playoff odds up to 4.4% per coolstandings. They were at 0.7% three days ago.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Brian Wilson for Cy Young!
My adopted son, Brandon Crawford. Dude hits grand slams and plays defense.
I have them at 94% - what's the BFD?
I’ll scoot over to make room for you on this wagon.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 17, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
If the DBacks lose 6 more in a row and the Giants win 6 more in a row…FIRST PLACE BABY! (the end of the streak would be Giants-AZ, of course)
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Go 3-1 in the next 4 games
and if DBacks go 1-3, it’s down 3 with 3 games head to head.
I think best we can hope for is
that the DBacks go 2-2
Yeah, well I bet they're becoming as frustrated as we were last month.
Based on who they’re playing, there’s no reason they shouldn’t have this locked up by now. But they don’t.
And we should have a 10 game lead in 1st place. But we don’t. Baseball happens. Let’s go get ’em!!!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Giants clinched an above .500 record with the win today.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
@garbanzo24 Surkamp is not close to Pomeranz.
Keith Law iz mean.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
What’s Pomeranz’s projection? No. 1/2 starter? Is he going to be the Rockies’ ace in a post-Ubaldo world?
by non sequitur on Sep 17, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He looked pretty good.
But then he WAS pitching against the Giants
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 17, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Not only was it against the Giants, but it was against the worst possible lineup they could put out there. Kids that throw low nineties don’t really impress me, although I’ll give you he’s better than Surkamp. However I didn’t see anything the last two nights that didn’t make me ecstatic that we won’t be seeing Ubaldo Jiminez anymore when we play the Rockies.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Hey Keith
he was close today taking the RBI linedrive back up the middle. Surkamp says “suck that Keith Law”
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Sep 17, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
This Keith Law guy...
is sort of a prick
Meh. I like the guy, even if he can be a little bit of an ass sometimes.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
i’m drunk.
Sergio Romo: The Giants welcome wagon.
Representing the World Champion SF Giants in SoCal since 2009.
Pretty much the only Persian in California obsessed with baseball...
by ramin on Sep 17, 2011 10:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'M HIGH ON LIFE
Rally Jerry!
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thats a G I R L F R E INDDDD
that’s a girllllfriend
also
someone tell me why Oklahoma St. and Tulsa started their game 15 minutes ago.
Sergio Romo: The Giants welcome wagon.
Representing the World Champion SF Giants in SoCal since 2009.
Pretty much the only Persian in California obsessed with baseball...
Weather delay.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
What happened?
Also, I find it ironic that it was I who informed you of the Giants rain delay, and now you are doing the same.
Sergio Romo: The Giants welcome wagon.
Representing the World Champion SF Giants in SoCal since 2009.
Pretty much the only Persian in California obsessed with baseball...
ITS A DUMPSTER
Sergio Romo: The Giants welcome wagon.
Representing the World Champion SF Giants in SoCal since 2009.
Pretty much the only Persian in California obsessed with baseball...
sucky birthday
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Sep 18, 2011 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
This late run is going to make me so much more bitter when we are eliminated
//clings to scant hope
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 17, 2011 10:42 PM PDT reply actions
Same here
All of these wins are giving me hope but I’m trying to remind myself that they will most likely not make the playoffs.
Rally Jerry!
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When we are many games out
You can’t point to a single moment and say “this cost us the playoffs.” When we are so close every error (::cough:: Cabrera ::cough::) seems so much greater.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 17, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
BTW I still don’t know why Cabrera is here (and still playing). I guess no one knows.
Rally Jerry!
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Probably has something to do with Crawford being awful and not deserving of a major league roster spot (not saying Cabrera is).
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
Pssst
Mike Fontenot
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I’m not arguing with you. I’m just saying that Cabrera’s got a higher batting average and he’s probably better defender (certainly on reputation). 90% of managers would go with Cabrera in this situation.
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Dude, batting average...
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 17, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're going to critique Bochy, at least compare him to his peers.
And his peers still give entirely too much of a crap about batting average, and, based on the Gold Glove results (which are decided by managers and coaches), have a skewed opinion of defense.
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Depends on what your point is.
If your point is only that we should play Fontenot, no.
If your point is that we need a new manager because our won’t play Fontenot, well, then yes you do.
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Managing is not graded on a curve.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
by owlcroft on Sep 18, 2011 4:06 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Sure they are. In real life managers are graded on team record, which is on meaningful in comparison to the other 29 teams.
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"In real life":
In whose real life? What, “Hey, my manager is 3% less imbecilic than yours”? Anyone who grades a manager on what his team did can be guaranteed to rank starting pitchers by wins. That includes far too many so-called “baseball writers”.
As I find myself continually remarking, Sparky Anderson said it well when he once remarked to several of us reporters “It’s amazing how smart a manager gets when he has a good team.”
By people who can read without moving their lips, managers are graded by what they do (or don’t do) to what modern baseball knowledge dictates that they would best do (or not do).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Fontenot: .221 / .301 / .357
Cabrera: .224 / .244 / .250
Maybe Cabrera of 5 years ago is a better defender at SS than Fontenot, but at this point Fontenot is clearly the better defender. He know’s how to catch the ball for one.
Too bad Fontenot is busy saving Middle-Earth, maybe Bochy would remember he exists or something.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 17, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He know’s how to catch the ball for one.
What does that even mean? The closest I can think of is fielding percentage, which is 1) bunk, and 2) show no significant difference between Fontenot and Cabrera as shortstops this season (and favors Cabrera historically).
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I think he/she was referring to the dropped pop-up.
Rally Jerry!
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which one?
Or are you confusing the clanked grounders? There are many to choose from.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The eye test shows pretty clearly that Cabrera is done as a major-league shortstop.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
The "eyeball test" tells me pretty clearly that Fontenot is not now and never was one.
Defensively speaking.
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Then get your eyes re-checked.
He isn’t Gold Glove material, but he makes the routine plays, which generally suffices. And to judge his bat by this year alone is as foolish as, well, as it sounds.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
by owlcroft on Sep 18, 2011 4:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was being facisious.
The “eyeball test” of random fans is an obvious bullshit maneuver.
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At least Craw has above average defense
Rally Jerry!
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The last thing the Giants can afford to do is entertain the notation that crawford is an option as anything but a minor leaguer next season.
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I'm not saying Crawford is very good
Just better than Cabrera. Also, Fontenot is better than both of them.
Rally Jerry!
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This late run is found money
It’s fun watching good baseball for the first time in a month, and I’ve already come to terms with them not making the postseason. If they can get within 3-4 games of the dbacks before the series with them starts I’ll rethink their chances and maight get a little concerned when things go badly.
Also, can we just skip August next year? Seriously, fuck August.
The first six innings are overrated.
I keep forgetting that August sucks
every year it sneaks up on me
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 17, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
August sucks
Lesser Caesar, easily.
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Your mom's a girl
UNPACK!!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 17, 2011 10:43 PM PDT reply actions
First of all, it’s “Kashmiri”, and I think you’re being very insensitive.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Wet Blanket
if the dbacks go 5-5, the giants need to go 10-0 (making a 17 game win streak, BTW) to tie.
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
Any team can streak or stumble in a ten game stretch.
Including the Dbacks.
Including the Giants.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Maye, but we’re fast reaching the point where “win out” is the only realistic chance.
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we hit that point a while back. and since then, amazingly, they’ve been winning.
I’d love to see it. It would be neat to follow the giants in the playoffs from europe.
oh, and if the giants were to go 10-0, that would be 3 against the dbacks. dbacks could go 5-2 in their other games and the giants would tie.
so, it is pretty easy. they just need to win. :)
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Your mom's a girl
Realistically
I think the Giants can lose just one more game this season (and it cannot be against the DBacks).
Seems doable
Rally Jerry!
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Not the right way to think of this
Giants need to sweep Arizona no matter what. beyond that, they only need to go 5-2 (vs. 3-4 for Arizona)
Giants baseball
It’s almost too easy.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 18, 2011 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I love kmvr
Rally Jerry!
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Holy shit
yes, the Bags can stumble. Let’s keep in mind the Bags haven’t played a .500+ team in about a month – and no, I don’t consider the August Giants a .500+ team – they were flat out awful getting lucky to have beaten the Astros a few times. The Bags have had some good years out of Upton and Montero, but would you want to hinge your playoff hopes with Goldschmidt as your #5? Chris Young as your #6? Saunders as your #3 starter? Collmenter as your #4? Just saying, nobody should be anointing the Bags NL West champs just yet. I live in Phoenix and in the D’Backs’ broadcasts the last few games they have shown the standings for playoff home field advantage between Arizona and Milwaukee as if they have already clinched the Division. Be fun to make them have to grind out some more victories.
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by Penitentiary Face on Sep 17, 2011 11:11 PM PDT reply actions
But at the same time...
Let’s not get overconfident ourselves! Even if the D-Backs havent played a 500 team in over a month, they obviously would have had to beat the +500 teams in order to get into this position in the first place. You cannot say the D-backs have gotten lucky all year.. they are a tight-knit group with some good pieces and some not-so- good pieces, along with a brilliant coaching staff.
As far as them talking about Home Field Advantage in the playoffs… let them. We shouldn’t be overly concerned with how the D-backs are doing right now. We should just win out on all of our games and let everything else fall into place. The Giants are riding a seven game winning streak right now… lets just keep winning like this. Let’s play our best baseball right now, and see where we are when we go to Arizona for the weekend series. We can still do this… but lets stay focused and not get too excited here…
Fuck this shit. I’ve been down this road before.
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
in 2010?
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 18, 2011 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
From Baggs:
It’s in the notebook and I tweeted it earlier, but in case you missed the news, Brian Wilson will be activated prior to Sunday’s game. Bruce Bochy delivered that bit of info after Saturday’s game.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
They must really believe they are in this thing, otherwise they’d have Weez taking it waaaaay s l o w .
"...more often than not, it’s factually based."
by KrazyKrabMeat on Sep 18, 2011 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Remember what happened the last time they speeded Wilson back from the DL.
We won’t be in it much longer. Wilson’s too tough for his own (and the team’s) good.
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yeah
one rusty game is going to be enough to end this.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I just realized something
To this point the Vogs story has been the best story of the year. They could actually surpass it in the next 11 days.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Sep 18, 2011 12:07 AM PDT reply actions
you be jinxin' bro
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 18, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
you be jinxin' bro
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 18, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
you be jinxin' bro
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you be jinxin' bro
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Sep 18, 2011 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions
bro, you be jinxin'
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 18, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A: I refuse to believe in the Giants until after the Dback series
Refuse!
Also…who is a racist around here…I demand a committee hearing on this matter!
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That’s a fair assessment because until that series is over there is no way to know if they are still in this.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Sep 18, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
i'm not against asians
but people who eat rice and have black hair skeeze me out
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Your mom's a girl
i'm racist against Cain and Lincecum
Natto is racist against Ralph Barbieri
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Caincecist
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Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 18, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say that I hate distance runners, but I wouldn't mind concentrating them in one place and stopping food shipments.
VAE PVTO DEVS FIO
ireland?
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
I would prefer not to be confined to one place without food.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Just curious: Is it hard having to justify yourself constantly by announcing your academic credentials? Like, you had a screen name that was calbearjd beforehand, if I’m not mistaken. Do you walk around with your JD around your neck and flash it at people like bling?
by Tim Lincecum on Sep 18, 2011 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Either you’ve been lurking here before, or you should probably be resting up for Tuesday.
Then again, maybe both. Tell me everything.
EVERYTHING.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Shh. Don’t tell anyone I posted on here!
by Tim Lincecum on Sep 18, 2011 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t have that kind of self-control.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
How badly do you want the winning streak to continue?
by Tim Lincecum on Sep 18, 2011 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he changed it because he didn’t like giving off that impression.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I am glad that no one has called me a racist nor called me out for flaunting my DJ credentials.
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
This is amusing me
I certainly wear my JD around my neck and flash it at people.
Inside Joke! JD is my husband! That’s so funskjksdjksjjsds I am going back to bed now.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
I find his neck to be quite comfortable.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 18, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
So, uhh....
5 back with 3 left against the team ahead of us. Huh. How about that. My hope is on life support but not yet dead.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
I’m avoiding hope still because the dbacks essentially clenching the division by beating the giants would be quite a kick in the nuts.
The first six innings are overrated.
All this winning
Has in fact made that a very likely scenario. I had been assuming they’d easily clinch before that series.
DRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNK
old very dear* friend from highschool and her boyfriend are passed out on my floor, ths isnt’ awkward at ALL.
GIANTS FUCK YEAH
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 18, 2011 2:36 AM PDT reply actions
There it is!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
*

Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington. Will your team regret passing up on my boy 50 times?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Sep 18, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Bruce Bochy
Baggs:
Bochy also made a special mention that Pill played winter ball. Whenever Bochy praises the 27-year-old from Cal State Fullerton, it’s not too hard to add an unspoken postscript. Something to the effect of, "This is what he’s doing right, and this is what Belt has not done right."
I don’t even need to say it.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Can someone remind that idiot Bochy that Belt played in the Arizona Fall League last year after the season? Doesn’t that count? Do young players have to play 365 days a year to make him happy? If Belt suffers a serious injury this winter, I’m headed to Bochy’s house with a lynch mob. Who’s in?
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
I'm in this minute, whether Belt gets injured or not.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 18, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
they do realize that like
Pill’s played in six games
two 0-4s in a row will drop him down to .250
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
LOL PILL HATER
pill haters gotta hate.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I tried arguing with them on Bagg's blog. I don't know why I thought that was a good idea.
All I get is something like… “it doesn’t matter what he’s done in the minors because he’s hitting now!”.
Adopted Giant: Mike Fontenot
He's like Grant, but fun size.
so
Matier & Ross have a different take on the Neukom ouster. Spoiler alert: it’s about money.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
I like any reason that doesn’t say that they thought that team payroll had become too high. That one scares me. If they want to take Neukom’s ten million and spend it on the team, I have no problem with them firing him.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
yeah right
like executive compensation saved is always re-invested in the company.
I imagine this explains some of the “communications issues” too; if they hadn’t settled on a compensation structure for him, you can bet they hadn’t talked through what the scope of his authority was either.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Still seems like one big huge High School spat with Neukom being the successful geek who started to overshadow all the cool kids and the cool kids decided to take him down.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
This. ^^
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 18, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Could it be that Surkamp’s arm is tired?
Just speculating as to why he’s been walking people of late…
I have the same feeling.
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 18, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
He did set a career high in IP in Richmond this year
Add on the 20+ innings he’s pitched up here, and there’s a definite possibility of fatigue.
Ah, but . . .
. . . Bochy has said emphatically that the team is going to put a lot less load on the starters’ arms the rest of the season. And Bochy is an honorable man, who always keeps his word. Right?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
wtaf? ummm hello… weather??? It’s mid-september… why’s it gotta be 100˚ outside still?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Not bad at all
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Today’s #SFGiants lineup: Torres cf, Fontenot 2b, Beltran rf, Sandoval 3b, Huff 1b, Belt lf, Crawford ss, Whiteside c, Cain p
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 18, 2011 9:25 AM PDT reply actions
10:1 this lineup gets shut out. Because we like it and because Cain is pitching.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Torres better start hitting or else the hole he’s been digging himself is only going to get bigger
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
when was he digging
In his last start on September 5? Or his last start before that on August 31?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
those rare times when he is playing (he’s also been subbed in a lot) there’s been a lot of strikes out as well as a lot of not hitting. I wish Torres played more because it’s been hard to know whether he was a flash in the pan or his head hasn’t been quite right (not helped at all with stupidly having to platoon with Rowand) but I just wish he started playing like he did last year so Bochy can give him more playing time and the rest of us can take a sigh of relief knowing he’s as good as we hope he is.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I should also add that I’m rooting for him and want him to play so I want him to do well. Unfortunately, I’m not sure Bochy has that same view
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
so to sum up
he has been stupidly utilized, and yet should go 5 for 5 when he starts twice per month.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Hit for the cycle or your ass gets benched!
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 18, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
so to sum up
he’s being stupidly utilized for whatever reason and hasn’t played well when he is playing (this goes back to the summer) and I want him to play well in those games that he is playing so he won’t be stupidly utilized as much as he is. I’m worried that when he doesn’t perform, he gets buried deeper in the bench.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
That "flash" . . .
.. . lasted at least 1-1/3 seasons, starting with when he returned to the majors in 2009.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
So Pill hits two clutch triples.... and gets benched...?!
At least Cabrera isn’t playing…
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
at least no cabrera is a big f-yeah, fist-bump, high-five, double high-five, chest-bump, moonwalk
by bernardking on Sep 18, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I see
Last night was the throwaway day game-night game lineup.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 18, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Or I should say
night game-day game
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 18, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
R U Serious?
Cuz that can’t be right.
Alright…. which one of you is hiding Bighead in your basement?
and I agree… this lineup gets no-hit.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’ve got the head, but it’s on a pike for safekeeping.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 18, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
it's nice
except for the bottom 33% of the lineup being giveaway outs.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Vogelsong can't pitch every day.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
that's about as good as it gets though
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Pill’s line: .333/.333/.857. Hooray unsustainable!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
wouldn't have minded
him in at 1B over Huff, but it’s actually a little encouraging that Bochy seems to be platooning him
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
not that I condone platoon suggestions
but isn’t Huffy the one with the reverse split?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
it's a platoon split out of line with his career #s
i’d still expect him to hit better vs RHP going forward
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
but Cain can hit dingerz
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Sep 18, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
In one at bat!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Left Handed!
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Sep 18, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Who is this Fontenot?
I don’t remember him at all
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
You need to go back and watch Lord of the Rings again.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Little guy? Hung out with Frodo but didn’t get to go to Mordor because the Gandalf’s younger, much dumber brother thought he wasn’t gritty enough to go?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you know Mike Fontenot?
Long time passing…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
This should play over a series of slow-motion, soft focus shots of Fonty smiling wistfully.
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Where have all the Hobbits gone
Long time ago
Where have the good shortstops gone
Gone to bench meat everyone…
When will he ever learn?
When will Bighead ever learn…?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
by Merope on Sep 18, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Man, the presence of Buster Posey would instantly make that lineup look pretty damn legit.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 18, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Official
SFGiants San Francisco Giants
#SFGiants have reinstated Brian Wilson from disabled list and have activated him prior to today’s game.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
Hooray more of last night...
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Technology...bah...
I had to check the instruction manual on how to use my am/fm transistor radio. Kripes.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I make fun of my grandparents for not knowing how to use a computer, but I’m already way behind the curve on technology such as smartphones. I’m going to be at their level of doddering incompetence with basic technology before I’m 30.
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Yeah, it’s depressing to have that feeling. I just want a phone that can make phone calls and maybe send text messages!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I live in this village.
When I’m working I can’t have a cell phone on, can’t use it at the gym, won’t use it in the car…and well by then….I’m home and can use the computer!
I pay like $15 a month for my cell phone and it just makes phone calls, it’ll do text messages but I’ve never bothered to figure out how.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
That’s my phone. That’s all it does, and all I want it to do. My boyfriend mocks it as “the grandpa phone.”
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The Mr. has an iphone, I can usually figure it out.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I have a mixed record on smartphone usage (when I borrow someone else’s). Sometimes I can get it, and sometimes I accidentally send their entire contact list 37 identical e-mails about humorously misspelled signs.
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"accidentally"
We know what you’re really up to!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
REPORTING FROM SEATTLE
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
"...Reporting live from Seattle, TheLetter2, KBIU"
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Then my “Rocky Top” ringtone starts blaring in the background, blowing my cover.
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TN has 8 official state songs? Man, they should just make it an official state album.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I liked how Pill didn’t overswing on that 2nd triple last night.
I like that Crawford is in the lineup today…
I like that Belt is in the lineup today
I’m guardedly optimistic that Huff builds on his three-hit game from Friday
Predictions:
Torres bangs out three hits and wins the game for us today
Whiteside attempts a straight-steal of home plate and doesn’t quite make it
Fontenot plays barefoot
Ratto is a moron....
RattoCSN Ray Ratto
Chelsea, meet Arsenal
1 hour ago
Chelsea was playing Manchester United…
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Ok, so I’m looking at the list of champions in the EPL since its inception (INCEPTION) in 1992. There are 20 clubs in the league but only four different teams have won its 18 championships — and if you throw out the one-time Blackburn Rovers, it’s really three teams who win every year: Manchester United (11), Arsenal (3), and Chelsea (3).
I’m curious: how does this disparity play out in public discourse over there in England? What’s it like to be fans of the other 17 clubs? I’ve actually got a student this semester who’s a fan of Wolverhampton.
by non sequitur on Sep 18, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
i feel like if you're not a fan of one of the big three (+ maybe Liverpool)
winning the EPL isn’t really the focus/end goal? IDK.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Right, +Liverpool. And only the top four place in the Champions League, so the punishment for not finishing high is even worse. Nick Hornby’s team is Arsenal; would have been more interesting if it was Newcastle United or Manchester City!
by non sequitur on Sep 18, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Man City’s now closing in on the bigger teams because they’re owned by some rich oil guy from Bahrain or something and he’s throwing money around left and right. When Hornby wrote “Fever Pitch” (great book) Arsenal wasn’t what they are now (excepting this season) and were more of a Red Sox type team— always good but never good enough. Like the Red Sox, Arsenal doesn’t have that kind of romance anymore.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
When Hornby wrote "Fever Pitch" (great book) Arsenal wasn’t what they are now (excepting this season) and were more of a Red Sox type team— always good but never good enough.
Ah. Didn’t realize this.
by non sequitur on Sep 18, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Man City sort of destabilized the EPL
Before, it was a Big 4 of Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool, but now it has become more of a Big 6 of those four teams, City, and Tottenham. So short term at least, the money injection has actually made the EPL more competitive.
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by Murray, Present on Sep 18, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but there’s the league and then there’s the FA Cup.
FA Cup is where it’s at…
from the Wiki:
The Football Association Challenge Cup, commonly known as the FA Cup, is a knockout cup competition in English football and is the oldest association football competition in the world. [snip] Entry is open to all teams who compete in the Premier League, the Football League and in steps one to five of the FA National League System, as well as selected teams in step 6. This means that clubs of all standards compete, from the largest clubs in England and Wales down to amateur village teams.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Which is kinda the equivalent of your local Class C baseball team being able to compete against the Giants in a tournament.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
ah-ha! and:
… the FA Cup has a long tradition of lower-ranked teams becoming “giant-killers” by defeating opponents from a higher division.16 While it is common for this to happen (one statistical analysis based on four years of results showed that the probability of at least one team beating one from a higher division in a given year was 99.85%, dropping to 48.8% for a two-division gap and 39.28% for a three-division gap17), it is considered particularly newsworthy when the “victim” is one of the top Premier League teams, or where the giant-killer is from outside the League divisions. …
So the Big Four are operating in at least three independently organized competitions per year? The EPL, Champions League, and the FA Cup? How confusing. The American sports monopoly leagues are much more straightforward.
by non sequitur on Sep 18, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, but it’s a huge deal when you’re Barcelona and win all three. Man U’s done it once too (maybe Arsenal once) and it was a huge deal as it’s not something that’s easy to do.
I’ve heard the FA Cup is one of the best tournaments in sports because some third-level team could get lucky and beat one of the big guys. Picture the NCAA Tourney except throw in every one.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
aside from history
I really think that model would make a lot more sense than what they do in MLB now.
The Rivercats would have played themselves into first division a long time ago, and the A’s would have drifted down to the Far West League, battling the Humboldt Crabs and Redding Colt .45s.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
YOU’VE BEEN RELEGATED!!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Seriously, the Astros, Cubs, Marlins, and Padres would be getting ready for their postseason run! And the games would actually be competitive, including the regular season games they play to try to stay out of the Survivor Tournament. The Rockies would be fighting to stay out of it right now too.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve heard that you have two teams you root for, your neighborhood team and one of the Big 3 (or four now). I even said that here and was told if you were a Fullham fan you were on for life because it’s your side of the town and it’s like in baseball where your great-great-grandparents rooted for them so you do too. Which makes sense in a way and I’m trying to like Fullham because Clint Dempsey is a stud there but I can’t see the idea in rooting for a team that will never win.
There are different sorts of tourneys in Europe, though, so even if you don’t make the Champions League, you can do a bunch other tourneys so you can kind of have the same experience, just not on the big stage.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
meh. the nba is pretty similar something like 7 teams in the last 30 years or something
lakers, celtics, spurs, detroit, and the bulls basically
the rockets won two
then the heat and mavs each won one
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
Proud parent of Jeff Keppinger's better half
by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
nba
How does the NBA’s revenue sharing model compare to the NFL and MLB? This follows the discussion that emerged out of my fanpost a week ago. If I wanted to make a purely economic argument, I could tie NFL parity to its egalitarian revenue sharing model, in which even the Carolinas and Green Bays get the same TV money as the Cowboys and Patriots (I read somewhere that TV $$$ accounts for 2/3 of the NFL’s revenue!). So while some teams are indeed richer than others, basically everyone in the NFL is at least “rich”, and can compete on the free agency market.
Whereas in MLB, revenues are tied to local media markets to a much greater degree and you have rich teams and poor teams, and the rich teams have an unfair advantage. The Moneyball argument enters here to complicate the picture but let’s put that aside for the moment. Where does the NBA fall on this continuum?
by non sequitur on Sep 18, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
answering my own question
Hey, someone named Andrew Feinstein tries to make this argument on our own SBN. NBA owners share national and international television and licensing revenue but not local revenue. In particular, while the NFL splits ticket sales 60/40 between home/visitors, in the NBA the home team keeps everything. So successful teams draw crowds, $$$, and win, while the other 23 teams find it hard to break out of their loserdom.
There aren’t more detailed revenue breakdowns in this piece (maybe Feinstein just doesn’t have access to them). If TV revenue alone were 2/3 of what the NBA makes like it is in the NFL, then how much different could not splitting ticket sales really make.
by non sequitur on Sep 18, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope
you’ll keep making fanposts once in a while about this stuff, I find the various issues pretty interesting and as the CBA talks in baseball move along your curiosity might be pretty timely.
I don’t know if you’ve discovered biz of baseball, but they try to keep on top of this type of news, and apparently they have sites for the other sports to so you might find them useful.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the biz of baseball tip — I have come across it in my e-travels.
Sports and business is pretty interesting, isn’t it. The thing that interests me especially — and I’m hardly the first to observe this — is the cross-Atlantic comparison. We think of the U.S. as the free market society and Europe as a bunch of socialists, but this gets turned around when it comes to sports. Football clubs over there have to compete not only against other clubs but other leagues, and it’s a free market — there are financial winners and losers.
Over here, meanwhile, sports are a weird hybrid of money-making machine and quasi-socialist experiment. I don’t know whether Pete Rozelle’s radical revenue-sharing plan for the NFL was driven as much by a concern for competitive equality as it was by fiscal/economic concern for league health. But either way, it makes the question about how you make sports “fair” fascinating. (To me.)
by non sequitur on Sep 18, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I think
w/r/t the NFL, the idea that the league is only as strong as its weakest link stems from the AFL and Lamar Hunt (and all the like-minded guys like Al Davis and Bob Howsam and so on), and that they were the first to pool TV revenues. And it’s their competitive league that revitalized and transformed the NFL when they came along.
And I agree the irony is delicious- US sports teams owners decry socialism and welfare, except to the extent it leads to free or greatly-discounted facilities or “luxury tax” payments from the Yankees.
I find it much, much weirder that over 100 universities have become sports entertainment operations complete with TV networks.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Giants were an EPL team, we’d be Tottenham- visions of cracking the Big Four, a team comprised of enough players to almost make it, but stuck with an unwilling ownership group that would spend the money to get the players to break through.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
He only knows Arsenal and Chelsea because they're alphabetically at the top on FIFA
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by Murray, Present on Sep 18, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Poor ManU – always down the list.
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by SituationalLefty on Sep 18, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
You have to scroll all the way down to M! Too much exercise for Ratto.
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by Murray, Present on Sep 18, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s ok we are always on top of the table.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 18, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
ot handegg news
cam newton looks like he is for real
he is torching the champs right now
carolina might be happy luck didnt come out
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 10:46 AM PDT reply actions
we’re watching the Rrrrrrrrrrrrrraiders….
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
im too close to chico for anything but aaron rodgers and co to be on the tv here
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t even think anyone who isn’t a passionate fan of the Rai-duhs or anyone in Buffalo would want to watch this game and if they do, it’s not fair to the rest of us who could care less about either team but are stuck having to watch it.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
God I hate NFL TV rules. All these great games are on and I’m stuck with Raiders/Bills and only Raiders/Bills. Instead of showing football on FOX, they’re slurping Eric Cantor instead.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Tebow still thick? That’s all I care about. I haven’t been keeping up.
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He’s their 3rd string QB right now. Jesus must have forgotten about him
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Tebow still sucks
And yet his jersey is one of the best selling lol
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 18, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Touchdown Rrrrrrrrrrrrraiders!!!!
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
oooh interception..
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
raiders are looking good
i have hope for them in the division with the chiefs season falling apart (Jamaal charles leg injury) and the chargers being the chargers
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Touchdown….Rrrrrrrrrrrraiders…..
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
hugh jackson
american hero
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
wait, what happened to Charles? Is my Pokemonz Egghand League team doomed once again to an injury to a first round draft pick?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
didnt see it
but i heard it was a serious leg injury
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
my house smells like chili this morning
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Geez, I wish, it’s too freaking hot here still for chili. As soon as it gets cooler there’ll be a fight over the crock pot: real chili or that other crap….
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
real chili? do you mean chili con carne from a can/
also crock pots are literally the best thing ever
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
this is only a good thing if you are/recently have been cooking chili
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
coffee, newspaper, football
it’s a sunday tradition that even the raiders can’t break
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I like to buy my Sunday paper before CBS Sunday Morning comes on at nine. I woke up too late to do that this morning. But I made French toast and enjoyed the homespun charm of Charles Osgood nonetheless. I’m just now reading the paper.
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How's your Sunday paper there?
I don’t know if you dared the Chronicle while you were here, but it’s a Thursday-sized paper, printed on Saturday, bound with 5 pounds of advertisements.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
You could read THE EXAMINER. Uh, if you can find one.
Still backing Notgardo, wheresoever he may wander. (Don't forget to wriiiite!)
no offense tk
I’d prefer not finding one in my driveway every Sunday.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
better then the chico er
which sometimes only has 12 pages plus 100 pages of ads
btw the 12 pages wasnt a joke
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
The Sunday News Sentinel is pretty solid. I’m still getting used to it after a quarter-century of the Birmingham News, but I like it. The crossword puzzles are good, and I like their long-form feature reporting. Today, for instance, is a mutli-page reports on the 50th anniversary of the Civic Coliseum downtown. Very interesting.
I do buy the Chronicle, and did so every day I was in town last month. I like their Sunday edition, especially the weather page.
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you mean
you buy the Chronicle in TN? That’s pretty impressive, it’s sadly difficult to find dailys from other cities any more. Not impossible, but seems like the old newsstands with collections of other cities’ papers are gone and not coming back.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
/Sighs.
Is the horoscope still on page 16 of the Pink Section?
/Has been living too far away for too long.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 18, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
No, I meant when I’m in the Bay Area. But I have ordered back issues in print, and I read the electronic version online. I’d love to take out a subscription to various newspapers around the country. If I could ever work out the logistics, I’d get the Chronicle, the Los Angeles Times, Seattle Times, Chicago Tribune, Washington Post and New York Times.
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Seattle Times? I find it to be largely void of relevance
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Gotta stay abreast of stuff going on in his locale
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Back in the day… when Tower Books existed … you could go there and get Sunday papers from all the major markets.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I remember seeing similar displays in bookstores when I was young, but I haven’t seen anything quite like that in a long time.
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you're still young!
There are a few places with small remnants of those racks, but a lot of times there are but a few (NYT, LAT) sad reminders of what used to be.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
indeed
I haven’t checked in a while but these mail subscriptions were pretty lacking, either nonexistent or really pricey. I like the NYT a lot but it’s pretty voluminous for a daily read IMO (perfect for train commuters in the Tri-State area) and the Sunday paper just makes me feel guilty.
I would love to have a mail subscription to the Village Voice, if I could go back in time and keep them from getting bought out by the Weekly.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
The price, as well as the time delay in having it mailed to me, prevents me from just jumping in and subscribing. The Sunday Chronicle would arrive five days later, and be of use only to read the features and any interesting items that caught me eye. The newsy news would be long gone.
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that's a real drawback
my parents subscribed to a few OR local papers when they were planning to move up there, and at one point were told that the newspapers were the last thing sorted, being 4th class or 12th class mail or whatever they are. Proved useful for their purposes.
Actually I think some of the local rags are still affordable in mail subscriptions, but so many of them (at least in CA) have been bought by out-of-town operations, those aren’t worth it either. I used to take my hometown paper while living in NY, but as its ownership got farther and farther out of town via mergers there was no longer any point.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
sunday morning is the best
i remember a few years ago they did like a 15 minutes segment about the wild donkey of arizona
i was memorized
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
if i try to remember
i end up clucking like a chicken
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I enjoyed this morning’s interview with Hugh Laurie, about his new blues album.
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He’s an amazingly talented guy and not as full of himself as, by all rights, he’s entitled to be.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 18, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
One funny moment came when the reporter, Martha Teichner, was walking with Laurie through Amoeba Records in Hollywood. I looked up and said, “I was just there!” Same section and everything. I was searching for a particular Dave Brubeck album, and then I saw the same aisle on Sunday Morning. Isn’t that crazy?
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stupid seahawks
theyre going to end up with luck
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 11:08 AM PDT reply actions
@hankschulman
Henry Schulman
Bochy’s feeling is, Aubrey Huff is the Giants’ first baseman this year, and will be next year, so you can’t just bench him down the stretch.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
and brett pill is the back up fist basemen so he needs all the playing time he can get
Belt? he’s fresno’s first basemen. I dont even know what he is doing here.
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by operation carrot on Sep 18, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
So I finished ASOS last night
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by Murray, Present on Sep 18, 2011 11:14 AM PDT reply actions
I bet you did
12 hour marathon cant-put-it-down session?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
The end of the book is one, big, long “OMG!” followed by another “OMG!”
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
the last sansa chapter omg
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I know!
And then the epilogue.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Sep 18, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
LEAVE SANSA ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 18, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
no lie
sansa is my favorite character
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Really?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 18, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
yes
best character arc, imo, and I think she’s going to really kick ass in the last two books.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Ugh. She will have to.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 19, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Er...may i ask a question?
Why isn’t the line-up like this: O_O
CF Torres
2B Fontenot
RF Beltran
3B Sandoval
LF Belt
1B Pill
SS Crawford
C Sanchez
Pitcher (Cain)
Go Sharks!
Check out that tweet from Henry Schulman above
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Sep 18, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
German pancakes this morning
Yum
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
pfankuchen!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"That one's on me."- Madison Bumgarner
by natteringnabob on Sep 18, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Conclusion: The Buffalo Bills Are Not Good
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Western NY’s version of Torture 3.0
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Sep 18, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Re-sign Voltron. Dude can hit.
Seems like a bad idea to use non-obvious nicknames in a new post.
"Your curses do not compare to those of Houston fans or Detroit fans, and especially not to those of fans from the northside of Chicago. You are not Hamlet. You are Valerie Bertinelli. Your victim act is schlocky, and totally unconvincing. You fancy yourself tormented. You are merely insecure."
-- Scott Burton to Red Sox fans, 6/12/02
http://espn.go.com/magazine/burton_20020612.html

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