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Post-game thread: Matt Cain

It was John McGraw who once said ...

If you can't win the pennant, at least annoy the Padres.

Which was impressively prescient seeing as the Padres weren't even a team back then. The Giants moved to 11-6 against the Padres on the year, which almost makes up for the punishment that San Diego gave the Giants last year. Also making up for the punishment the Padres gave the Giants last year: the delirium of a World Series parade, confetti tickling your ears as you scream until your tonsils ache, exulting not just for yourself, but for the fans before you who didn't get to see this happen.

The Giants having a winning record against the Padres this year also helps.

When Matt Cain came up from the minor leagues, he was one of two reasons to watch the Giants. The other one was Barry Bonds, but when the Giants were in the post-2004 decline, it was almost sad to watch Bonds do good things for an awful team. He would draw a walk, and then Pedro Feliz would strike out three straight times to end the inning. You knew that Bonds wouldn't be around for the next good Giants team. That wasn't true with Cain, though. He was the first unrealistic hope of a brighter Giants tomorrow.

Think of what it was like to be a Giants fan back then. Ainsworth, Foppert, and Williams all burned out and flamed away. Ryan Vogelsong was traded and never heard from again. Pitching prospects just didn't pan out if you were a Giants fan. Shawn Estes had his one great year, a couple of okay years mixed with pain, and that was the post-Barr legacy. They'd come up, tantalize, and flame away. Garrelts, Hammaker, Downs, Swift, Torres, VanLandingham, Ortiz, Estes ... they all had their moments, but they were never that guy.

Maybe Cain would be that guy. Seemed plucky enough, he did. He was the reason to watch the Giants other than Bonds in 2005 and 2006. He was the future if you were willing to suspend disbelief. One day, maybe Cain would ... would ... make an All-Star Game or two! Maybe!

And then Tim Lincecum came along with his olive-oil hair and his Cy Young charm, and he became the ace of the staff. It was Lincecum who was on the mound in Game Five of the World Series, Lincecum who was matching up with Roy Halladay to get there. That's not a bad thing -- turns out that Lincecum is pretty swell -- but it wasn't really Matt Cain who was the unquestioned leader of the pitching staff that took the Giants to all sorts of wacky places.

So here, as per law, is your annual Matt Cain appreciation thread. He didn't get the win, but that's because he doesn't want to be garish about the whole thing. He's a sub-.500 pitcher, sure, but maybe that means we can lock him up for five years in the offseason because it's 1938 and front-office types are really paying attention to pitcher wins. Matt Cain is an amazing pitcher, and one of the best in franchise history. It's a long history. Matt Cain.

This might be the best season Matt Cain has ever had, which is impressive, him being Matt Cain and all. His home runs are way down. His walk rate continues to dip. His strikeout rate is actually up a tick. The last time he didn't get through five innings was in April. He's Matt Cain, and he's better than you.

There are things about this game that bugged the absolute crap out of me -- Brandon Belt's ass-velcro keeping him on the bench for 29 innings or whatever, and Conor Gillaspie pinch-hitting over Andres Torres, only to have Torres come in on a double-switch in the next inning, for example. There were other good stories -- I really, really thought Mark DeRosa's career was over three different times this season, yet here he is, having a nice finish to the season. But it was a Matt Cain Production through and through. He's good, and by acknowledging that he was the main reason the Giants won tonight, maybe that makes up for those stupid pitcher wins.

Matt Cain.

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this is fairly awesome

It's the logo for my favorite band!

by positiveuphemism on Sep 14, 2011 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok, I've now watched about 10 songs of these guys already

and I’m not even a Glee fan. I swear it! The “I hate to admit it but I think I like this” comments crack me up.

P.S. check out “Jump” (yes, the Van Halen song), “Flight of the Bumblebee” and “Earth Wind and Fire Medley” Also, they do “Rossana” better than Toto does too.

by Daver321 on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

This one too: "Avsenik Medley"

This was really weird and probably the best one.

by Daver321 on Sep 14, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that one dude wearing a yellow ascot?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow, that is kind of awesome.

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is totally awesome

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by Murray, Present on Sep 14, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

FAIL

Cain didn’t get the job done. Doesn’t know how to win.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

How long before Matt Cain says “Fuck this! I’m out of here”?

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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Sep 13, 2011 11:56 PM PDT reply actions  

2 years

My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal

by garbanzo24 on Sep 13, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s the guy that I think is most likely to stay here his whole career.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Sep 14, 2011 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Name me the last pitcher who left a team that couldn’t score runs for a team that could, and took less money to do so. This goes for all of them, not just Cain. They’ll only leave the Giants if the Giants allow them to go free agent and get outbid. We’ve talked a billion times about the irrelevancy of pitcher’s win totals and then we say Cain will leave to win more games. And that’s not even mentioning that Cain has a ring on his finger from this team. You think he’ll leave this for a few more wins?

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Sep 14, 2011 5:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Poor poor Matt

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter

by scout6 on Sep 13, 2011 11:56 PM PDT reply actions  

CAIN VS WILD

MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!

by Anonymous1337 on Sep 13, 2011 11:57 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

When I saw the top part

I automatically assumed it was an “I better drink my own piss” image.

by boonitez on Sep 14, 2011 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

St. Louis, Arizona, and Atlanta all won today. Can people stop dreaming now, and accept the inevitable?

My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal

by garbanzo24 on Sep 13, 2011 11:57 PM PDT reply actions  

But so did the Giants!

//has accepted the inevitable and is waiting for hockey season to start

by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 13, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I refuse to accept Matt Cain in pinstripes!

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by Badly Browned on Sep 13, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cain to the Yankees

Lincecum to the Red Sox
Cody Ross to the Phillies

by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 13, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posey to the...

:-(

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Sep 13, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

WE'RE STILL IN THIS THING

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Sep 13, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

People accepted it a couple weeks ago. But baseball is a funny thing. There is no clock so there is always a chance.

It's the logo for my favorite band!

by positiveuphemism on Sep 14, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a pomegranate tootsie pop and the possibilities seems endless. Ask me again when it’s gone.

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by timmeh on Sep 14, 2011 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL your epop.

Tanks fer de laf.

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

THIS DIVISION IS OURS

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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by jponry on Sep 14, 2011 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

what the hell are you talking about?

They’ve won three games in a row, and NOW you think they’re doomed?

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

by natteringnabob on Sep 14, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel happy for DeRosa.

I’ve come to terms with Cain’s lack of run support.

Rally Freddy!!!

by _Jag_ on Sep 13, 2011 11:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I love listening to DeRosa talk, even with gimpy audio.

"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."

by El Person on Sep 14, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is how far I've lowered the bar

It wasn’t a loss. W00T!

NorCal passion trapped in SoCal pain...
I wanna rage.

by KatSkahnne on Sep 14, 2011 12:00 AM PDT reply actions  

 I just know I’m going to have some stupid arguments 30 years from now with some smartass whippersnappers with a stat that don’t mean shit about how good Matt Cain was.

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by DrStankus on Sep 14, 2011 12:01 AM PDT reply actions  

By then they’ll have Saberextremetrics that will show how his career FIPOAR isn’t as high as Eric Surkamp Jr.’s.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sabresextrics.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Be a gentleman and have a towel ready for the UZR.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cain will be the all-time leader in xCAIN+, and that’s all that matters.

by QuakeFan on Sep 14, 2011 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Cain is the coolest.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Sep 14, 2011 12:02 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

He is ice cold.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

allrightallrightallrightallrightallrightallrightallrightallrightallrightallrightallright

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by waelwulf on Sep 14, 2011 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shake it like a polaroid picture!

My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal

by garbanzo24 on Sep 14, 2011 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

(preferably of yourself and Matt Cain)

by boonitez on Sep 14, 2011 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d agree with this even if it weren’t to go with the grougthought

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by DrStankus on Sep 14, 2011 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s the best.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s the bee’s knees.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Cain is my favoritest

by JonDowd on Sep 14, 2011 12:04 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Matt Cain

201 GS
1305 IP
1076 K
466 BB
3.34 ERA

Dude is good.

You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.

by Solidarity on Sep 14, 2011 12:08 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm not convinced...

What’s his win-loss record? THAT will tell me if he’s really any good or not.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alex Pav

tweeted during the game that Cain has a 2.39 ERA in 12 starts since the All-Star break, and just 3 wins in that stretch. It’s a wonder a Giants pitcher hasn’t taken an assault rifle to the offense yet.

I've got these tiny hands!
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by Swamp Thing on Sep 14, 2011 12:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Father Time is doing it for them.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Probably the last thing a Giants pitcher has thought this year is “You know, this offense could be deader.”

My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Sep 14, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Golf clap.

"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10

by Kitspool on Sep 14, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well has anybody seen Rowand & Tejada lately? I mean like in the breathing flesh.

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by daveinexile on Sep 14, 2011 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just got home from the game.

Wasn’t actually planning on going until about 4pm this afternoon.

I can talk in a bit, but I have to go change first.

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by L-Nova on Sep 14, 2011 12:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I’ll be waiting here.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I never change.

My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Sep 14, 2011 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

/plugs nose

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Sep 14, 2011 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice to hear you wait.

My brother calls and says he can’t make the game tonight (we’re Filipino, so he planned on going with his daughter and his in-laws). He offers my sis and I the tickets meant for him and his wife. It was either go or stay here and watch Filipino soaps over/after dinner, so we went.

Got our bag (it’s a pretty cool bag), sat in view level (knees didn’t feel that bad this time; I’m bad with heights). While we got our bag, we ran into our cousin. Turned out we had more family sitting in the bleacher seats. So around the fifth or so (and after a ridiculous adventure hunting for caramel corn), we met up with them. Stayed with them until the Padres tied it up, groaned like hell over Mota coughing it up. Got really pissed when a clearly drunk girl and her guy friends tried to start a wave; I really wanted to yell that the only place people do that shit is in LA.

Went back up to our original group with sundaes, laughed heartily at my aunt-in-law fist pumping very energetically. They left in the 10th, so we went back down to our cousins to watch the rest out. Got very into it in the 12th, bemoaned the Pablo FC, but quickly turned to elation after DeRosa just hit it well enough to miss Hudson’s glove.

Coming back home, I felt happy about DeRosa. After watching The Franchise (esp. the ending), you could really sympathize with how he felt when he was DLed for so long; even more praiseworthy are the efforts he has made so far (even if they seem meager) to play on this team, even if the season is lost. Seeing him contribute hits, weather balloons and an okay glove fills me with more fuzzies than usual.

I do wish he didn’t avoid the walk-off celebration so much. Still pissed people didn’t boo the Arizona win that much.

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by L-Nova on Sep 14, 2011 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Unfortunately, the wave went in two directions in the upper deck.

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden

by SFGuy on Sep 14, 2011 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

then

it’s really more of a riptide.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

by natteringnabob on Sep 14, 2011 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

The wave can DIAF

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Sep 14, 2011 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

why would they boo an Arizona win?

That’s like saying they should boo an NBA score. The Diamondbacks are irrelevant to the Giants’ postseason existence now, except for the 3 head-to-head games.

Also, nice game story. I always like reading those.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

by natteringnabob on Sep 14, 2011 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of the downsides of being white is that I’ll never have the chance to go to a game with my daughter and in-laws.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

/golf clap

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know that when my knees feel bad, I am great with heights!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Love the caramel corn at the counter behind section 126!

Life is so much sweeter ever since TGWTWS

by kettlecorn on Sep 14, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing it was in July

It's the logo for my favorite band!

by positiveuphemism on Sep 14, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I miss August Lowry.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

August Lowry + 2011 August Giants = ???

0-0 Lowry and back to the minors?

It's the logo for my favorite band!

by positiveuphemism on Sep 14, 2011 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember when it was June we always dreaded. The “June Swoon”.

by Comrade Conrad on Sep 14, 2011 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember this, too. But the whole 80s were the June Swoon. June was just when reality set in every year.

It's the logo for my favorite band!

by positiveuphemism on Sep 14, 2011 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t read heiroglyphics.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

July 17-19.
One against the Padres then two against the Dodgers.

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by waelwulf on Sep 14, 2011 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

we just need to win 5 more in a row. That should put us 4 games or fewer back of the WC going into the final 10 games.

we’re in this thing

It's the logo for my favorite band!

by positiveuphemism on Sep 14, 2011 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m ready to ride out an exciting stretch, but I’m not counting on it.
It wouldn’t be the worst thing, I suppose.

My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Sep 14, 2011 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

THIS. THING.

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Sep 14, 2011 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was toward the end of a 9-5 stretch against the Padres, Mets, Padres, Dodgers.

Not bad!

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by waelwulf on Sep 14, 2011 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

SFGiants.com post game thread fun...

“NICE win!! Hope Bochy puts DeRosa on full schedule next season. He’s proven to be our top clutch hitter in the last few months.”

by InTimmyWeTrust on Sep 14, 2011 12:20 AM PDT reply actions  

::Facepalm::

Why is stupidity so much louder than rational thought?

by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 14, 2011 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is bizarre

Link (right-click)

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
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by SFGuy on Sep 14, 2011 12:34 AM PDT reply actions  

And the DFA sees Rowand turning to a life of crime.

Sad.

My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Sep 14, 2011 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well Said

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by Kestrel76 on Sep 14, 2011 4:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

excellent

I remember when he came up. “Hey, some kid is starting tonight. Big deal.” I stand humbly corrected.

And I love his cap tip when he comes off the field. Not embarrassed, exactly, just sort of perfunctory. “You’re all excited I had this good game, did you think I was going to screw up?” /tip

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

by natteringnabob on Sep 14, 2011 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow I remember when he came up

It was before twitter and I was at the game before his start when I noticed someone who looked a lot like Matt Cain running in the outfield. I was like ‘OMG is that Matt Cain?’ Then I went home and found out it was and he was starting a couple days later and I bought tickets immediately.

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by jponry on Sep 14, 2011 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Cain, Mound-Ninja

Awesome.

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by ch3zyp00fs on Sep 14, 2011 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Marshal Cain

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Life is so much sweeter ever since TGWTWS

by kettlecorn on Sep 14, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will never stop loving him.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love that man.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

My man crush on Matt Cain just got crushier if that makes sense

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 14, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

You keep your dirty hands off him.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carl Steward raises a good point in the postgame notes:
Somehow, we avoided Barry Zito in the top of the 16th. There is a God, after all.

by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 14, 2011 1:28 AM PDT reply actions  

What did Belt do?

Seriously, did he run over Bochy’s dog, or sleep with his daughter or something? Yes, he’s not hitting all that well, but Bochy put Brandon Crawford, hitting .185 in.

I think Belt’s adorkable. But I’m starting to hope he gets traded, just because whatever’s going on is really starting to seem personal.

by Darkrose on Sep 14, 2011 1:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Bochy seems to think he has better options at first. Belt is now 4th on the depth chart, behind Huff, Pill, DeRosa. Bochy has visions of Belt striking out with guys on base. Bochy sees a hole in his swing. Body language. Not aggressive enough. Needs to play winter ball. Doesn’t fit into the Giant’s plans. All of the above. Sad waste of a potentially good player, who may in fact become trade bait. Sad, sad, sad.

fred71510

by fred71510 on Sep 14, 2011 4:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s been Schierholtzed.

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by kiririn on Sep 14, 2011 4:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

He struck out at a high rate, which I am convinced is how this team evaluates hitters. I don’t even specifically think they look at K%, though the K%/Playtime ratio for the players on this team is pretty compelling. I just think striking out is the easiest thing to build a confirmation bias for. And, boy, do these guys in charge like to confirm their own biases. And strikeouts looks bad. And looking bad is bad.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure they had questions at the beginning of the year about whether he was ready for the bigs. Well, he hasn’t looked ready. Call it confirmation bias I guess, but the small sample has not looked great.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I certainly can’t deny that he’s looked bad, and I think they recognize that, too.

But there’s something about their willingness to play all of these other people they’ve rolled out there, and particularly the insistence on playing Brett Pill these last few weeks, that suggests to me, at least in their short term thinking, something more than just being choosy with the struggling rook. Even as bad as he is, he’s arguably the best and most interesting guy to have out there regularly.

And the strikeout thing doesn’t just sit with Belt. I firmly believe it’s a big part of why Torres is sitting regularly for Christian, why they tried so hard to bury Ross, why Burriss has gotten so many at bats, why Stewart became the everyday catcher, why Tejada and Cabrera of all options were the SS options we pursued when we did… I could go on. It’s really a pervasive stat when you look at the way they have pursued and played people this year.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suspect the brain trust has recognized that Belt’s development has been botched and feels that he was brought up before he was ready. They may be keeping him out of games with the idea that it will ‘protect’ him until he gets more ‘seasoning’.
Regarding the way the team looks at strikeouts, you may be right. Strikeouts are not productive after all.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could understand that, but it honestly seems like there’s more going on, with the passive-aggressive comments about how awesome Pill is and how he’s paid his dues. And the fact that the sample size is so small because he doesn’t get to play all that often…just makes me wonder.

by Darkrose on Sep 14, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

My internet connection died right as the dance gifs were coming up

I restarted the router several times, poked around with some settings, got put on hold forever by tech support, and felt pretty darn hopeless about the whole thing. Before I even got to speak with a real person, however, it just now started working again all of a sudden. I wondered why and how and what the, but now I’m certain that it was because Matt Cain.

So, here’s a couple of belated celebratory corgis on a treadmill.

Wheeeeeeeeeeee.

by urea on Sep 14, 2011 1:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Mine died too

Damn you ATT
nice to know I am not alone, though

I sit and await always faithful to the giants

by luved the stick on Sep 14, 2011 2:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh no!

Our apartment has had connectivity issues before, but it was rarely something that couldn’t be fixed by restarting the router or just rebooting the laptop. It’s definitely good knowing that we weren’t alone, like you said, and whatever the issue was didn’t last even longer.

Wheeeeeeeeeeee.

by urea on Sep 14, 2011 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, are you on AT&T UVerse? because my Internet died last night, too. It wasn’t just my router; my laptop could still talk wirelessly to my desktop. Frak. Because of AT&T I lost track of what was going on at AT&T.

Frak. Anyway, MATT CAIN.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Time to start the irony-free diet.

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

What are the chances of an AT&T Internet connection failing to work for two people at the same time? I’m astonished by this coincidence. Shocked. Shocked and appalled.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not being mean here, btw. I’m making fun of AT&T for providing such shitty service.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be pretty surprised if my Internet connection was functional more than 60% of the time during waking hours.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

There must have been some type of widespread problem

I had issues with my AT&T phone and internet when I got home from work yesterday.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

My suggestion is that the widespread problem is AT&T’s really terrible Internet service.

It could have been something more than that, though.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am not excited about having to choose between AT&T and Verizon when my contract is up in November. Either way my bill is going to jump at least 25% from what I pay with T-Mobile.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the first problem I’ve had in the year since I switched to AT&T. It’s been smooth up until now.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, no. My problems are definitely representative of the population.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Howie is a republic unto himself.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

And a fun one, at that.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is like a holiday destination! If Aruba were not a parliamentary democracy, it would be Howie.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a great description.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC AT&T consistently gets last place in customer satisfaction among cell phone companies.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s hard to get good consumer information on these things. The additional issue with broadband service (as opposed to wireless) is that in many regions there’s either not much choice or it’s hard to figure out what your choices are. I figured it was either AT&T or Comcast and both had both satisfied subscribers and people yelling loudly that theirs was the worst service in human history.

Maybe this National Broadband Plan thing will help. Part of it is about getting better information out thre.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve had U-Verse for the last year and a half now, and last night was the first real problem like that that I’ve experienced. After having a lot of issues with their DSL service before back home, I was expecting to also have problems with U-Verse, but it’s been pretty reliable overall. I can’t say the same about AT&T’s wireless service, though, what with all the smelly dropped calls.

Wheeeeeeeeeeee.

by urea on Sep 14, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fun Fact

The Giants records when the following start at SS: Burriss (1-2), Cabrera (10-19),Crawford (26-18), Fontenot (20-12), Tejada (20-19)

Source: http://presspass.mlb.com/DBDocs/77/127/3500_2279.pdf (this is the Giants game notes for Tuesday. Giants are now 11-19 with Cabrera at SS)

Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
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by SFGuy on Sep 14, 2011 2:41 AM PDT reply actions  

What do you know

the Fontenot record is better than the Crawford one.

Good thing he’s stuck on the bench.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Sep 14, 2011 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

sometimes

correlation does equal causation.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

by natteringnabob on Sep 14, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I choose to follow this confimation bias

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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by scout6 on Sep 14, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

2011 Giants position players by wRC+ (scaled like OPS+, but applied to wOBA)

Name wRC+
Carlos Beltran 134
Pablo Sandoval 128
Buster Posey 112
Pat Burrell 111
Nate Schierholtz 104
Cody Ross 99
Freddy Sanchez 96
Jeff Keppinger 87
Brandon Belt 87
Andres Torres 82
Aubrey Huff 82
Mike Fontenot 79
Mark DeRosa 77
Aaron Rowand 65
Eli Whiteside 64
Miguel Tejada 54
Chris Stewart 45
Manny Burriss 41
Brandon Crawford 39
Orlando Cabrera 28

Orlando Cabrera you are so bad.

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Sep 14, 2011 5:26 AM PDT reply actions  

So you're saying Carlos Beltran is the problem and Brandon Crawford is the solution?

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

#selfishCrawford

Not included on this list: Bill Hall, wRC+ 17

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Sep 14, 2011 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

6 out of the Giants' top 10 position players by wRC+ have spent significant time on the DL

And we were still a clusterfuck road trip away from playoff contention.

This pitching, you guys. I mean…this pitching!

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cain’s no decision tonight had more to do with the bullpen than the offense, even though two runs ain’t much. One out man on first should be an easily manageable situation for the bullpen. Why Mota, the long reliever in the seventh? Is it illegal to use Romo before the eighth, especially with the tying runs in scoring position?

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Sep 14, 2011 5:31 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I went to bed before the game was over

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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Sep 14, 2011 6:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I went to bed before the game started. (East coast.)

Turns out this is a good way to experience some Giants games, especially for the last month or so.

Wake up, look at box score, shake head, slap forehead, drink coffee, discuss means of execution for Bruce Bochy (drawing and quartering? pressing? big head on pike?)

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I do every day!

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

You, me, TL2, Goofus – it’s a trend.

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, I was watching that Jackie Kennedy special on ABC.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jackie Kennedy: “I HATE EVERYONE!”

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

/dreamy sigh

She hated people with such class.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did any of the recordings say that Hoover raided her wardrobe?

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

He couldn’t possibly have. I mean, look at his figure.

I will say this: The interstitial segments featuring Diane Sawyer were all shot in soft-focus, which I detest. Bad ABC News. Bad!

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Drives me crazy too, but I hate Diane Sawyer anyway. To me she radiates smugness.

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

She and rotoreuter probably spend many an hour sipping free-trade coffee at an independently-owned bistro in downtown Smug.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Smugtown” is the official nickname of Rochester, NY, where I live. So come on over, gaiz! But bring some vaseline for the lens.

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, seriously? Now I wanna go on a road trip there.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who are these Len guys?

by Bar None on Sep 14, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just some really dry folks.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sunshine stealers.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whoa

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is impressive.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

That song always reminds me of that movie Go.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only on MCC.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to meet this “rotoreuter” fellow.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your Brit doppelganger.

by Bar None on Sep 14, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

e before u except after r

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too.

New world order. I now work 8-6, but I haven’t figured out what time I need to leave in order to get to work by 8 yet, so I’m going to bed and getting up earlier and earlier.

by Every6thDay on Sep 14, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was there for Matt Cain’s first time pitching in Chase Field.

A regular from the Outback I bar tended at took my buddy and I. He had ridiculous seats just left of home plate and 3 or 4 rows up. The best non-ST seats I’ve ever had. Matt Cain was there pitching for the Giants which made it pretty cool too.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 6:50 AM PDT reply actions  

How long was Scott Eyre warming up?

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Methany was playing 3-way catch with Cain and Eyre before the game. I assume Eyre continued to throw in the bullpen throughout the game.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you know that Eyre led the league in appearances by a pitcher in one of this Giants years?

Or, alternatively, how could you not have known that?

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alou certainly drew the ire from Giants fans for his bullpen management.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

After trying for 40 seconds

I have determined that there just isn’t another word that sounds enough like “Garrelts” to make a pun in-kind.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

He farts a lot

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

oops

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow LaTroy Hawkins and Armando Benitez

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Sep 14, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love Cain.

UP THE PUCKS!
"This is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle

by TheSoundOfHockey on Sep 14, 2011 6:52 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL Really?

The game went extras and Belt still didn’t get in?

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 6:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Bochy hates giraffes.

UP THE PUCKS!
"This is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle

by TheSoundOfHockey on Sep 14, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fear of giraffes - "cameleopardophobia."

Even babies have it.

Viz.:

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Linky fail!

Link

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can we get

Fear the Neck t-shirts?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gillaspie needed the AB.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

…had a good BP.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Green it up. New heights of stupidity.

by Bar None on Sep 14, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that kinda sucked.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 14, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Who pinch hit who over who? Sorry, I didn’t catch that…

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

makes me glad I fell asleep. I guess Bochy did too.

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

by natteringnabob on Sep 14, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to BBR, there are three pitchers who have thrown more than 600 innings since 2008 with a cumulative ERA under 3. Matt Cain is one of them. I can’t view the list, so I’ll have to guess and check on the others.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Also

It’s possible that I set up my parameters wrong….

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since 2009 was the first thing. The other thing was I set up my parameters wrong.

Dang, this is less impressive than I fooled myself into thinking.

Still cool, though.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I did it right this time, and it says there are 5. Cain, Lincecum, Lee, and Halladay are 4. Still figuring out the last one.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Livan is one of them I’ll be dropping dead.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t figure out the last one. Kershaw doesn’t qualify. It’s not Oswalt, Sabathia, Hamels, Verlander….

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Felix Hernandez

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by kiririn on Sep 14, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tricky thing is it might not be an elite elite pitcher. Just someone good enough to consistently eat up a lot of innings. Maybe like a Mark Buehrle.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is correct

711 innings with a 2.67 ERA

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, then again, it might indeed be an elite elite pitcher.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, man. That was an easy one, too.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cain, Lincecum, Lee, Halladay, Hernandez.

The names you can find Cain grouped with by selectively choosing statistical parameters that his performances fulfill is amazing.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

But he’s the cainiest of the them all.

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to write a children’s book called The Cainiest Christmas Ever. It starts out well enough, as the protagonist does everything he can to be a good citizen — sharing, playing well with others, doing his homework, helping Mom and Dad with the chores — but on Christmas morning, he ends up with exactly zero presents.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

on Christmas morning, he ends up with exactly zero presents.

And he would still be okay with this.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lars. Lars. My boy, you are a genius. I think this could be an actual idea. I want to write this, and have Natto illustrate it. This could be the greatest gift of all.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

And then in the epilogue, he destroys the Dodger children.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cain is the one player on the Giants that must be re-signed to a long term contract. He’s consistent, durable, very mature for his age, intelligent, has played on the Giants the longest out of anyone on the current team, loved by the fans, postseason dominant, etc…

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beltran is dead inside?

Video of DeRosa’s walk off hit and the ensuing team celebration:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19195937

Go to the 0:55 mark.
Everyone in the dugout seemed to respond with joy and excitement after the hit. Most jumped over the dugout railing to celebrate onto the field. From the back of the dugout, Beltran took a peak to see what the commotion was all about, responded with no emotion or clapping, and then appeared to proceed slowly and calmly to the dugout steps.
With all the theories that could be put out there, one thing is for certain, he’s not enjoying himself right now.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 7:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Things I do not care about:

Whether or not Carlos Beltran is enjoying himself.

Things I care about:
Is Carlos Beltran good at baseball (answer: yes).

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Sep 14, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I like him to. The problem is, he doesnt seem to like playing for the Giants right now. I cant imagine why he would re-sign with them unless he was blown away. Maybe getting his former teammate Jose Reyes would help.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't surprise me if Beltran is the kind of guy who just wants to play baseball for money

He’ll probably just sign wherever he gets the biggest contract.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

What? The guy said he wants to play for a contender so he can get a championship. He already got his big money with the Mets.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll probably just sign wherever he gets the biggest contract.

This is definitely the case. You do not have Boras an an agent to give some team a discount.

Further, there is nothing wrong with that thinking at all.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

He might be showing loyality to his agent by retaining him. He might be a man of principles, even if Boras is known to not have many.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really doubt that is the case. And even if it was, your point seems to be that he will show loyalty to his agent but not his current team?

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, he’s played hard for the Giants. But now that they’re out of contention, he doesnt seem enthused. He’s only being honest by not faking his emotions.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Again, I don’t see anything wrong with that. Honesty is good, right?

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess we agree then. I just thought that maybe this was an indicator that he wont want to re-sign with the Giants. I mean, I don’t recall seeing him be this way with the loser Mets. He seemed to enjoy playing for them.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I think he had more invested with the Mets so that probably factored into his attitude a bit.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He also knew them a lot better. He developed friendships with some of them over the years. I wonder if he’s had any of that with his current teammates.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

He seemed pretty buddy-buddy with the Giants players pre-ASB.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Friendly isn’t the same as being like a buddy. Maybe he knew some of them from before, I don’t know.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

If it means we aren’t signing him to a 7 year contract, I’m cool with that!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is my belief

Guy had a clause in his contract that prevented a team from getting a draft pick when he leaves in FA, this is a guy who wants money.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Sep 14, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I think people are reading way too much into his demeanor. He seems very deliberate and that doesn’t mean he doesn’t like playing for the Giants.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

But he was the only one in the video that didnt visibly celebrate. Thats just weird, even for a guy like him.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was it Baggs who described his clubhouse demeanor as “imperial”?

If you’re gonna be imperial, you better hit like an emperor.

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

or Barry Bonds.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.

by Merope on Sep 14, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’ll do it.

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, he kinda does. So what's the problem?

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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

He does hit like an emperor. His walk up music should be The Imperial March.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m afriad his bat will be quite operational!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve always loved the way the Emperor said that.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beltran: HE'S A TRAP!

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was RotJ of course, but I think Ian McDiarmid was the only one in the prequel movies who was actually acting.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's really unfortunate, the prequels

Just about everyone casted were/are good actors, (though guess wasnt sold on young Anakin) but the script was just FUBAR. Natalie Portman’s lines were especially awful.

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by Badly Browned on Sep 14, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The one good thing to come from the prequels is that dude’s youtube reviews ripping them apart.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, please tell me you have a link… Please???

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s the first one.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is completely awesome.

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by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

It could do without the whole whole creepy basement/hooker thing IMO but yeah it’s hilarious.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that quickly got to be a little too unnecessary

but the review itself is hilarious, and fairly true! There’s a couple things so far I slightly disagree with, but the people talking about the characters was fantastic!

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by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Qui Gon Jinn? I don’t remember that character.”

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

“I was going to say she’s a queen, but I can’t say that… I’d mention the makeup, but I can’t do that either.”

Which, unfortunately, failed to keep in mind she was also the young girl who wasn’t dressed as a queen. But that’s just nitpicking.

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by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

“He’s… stoic.”

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

And now I’m stuck watching these reviews on YT.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really hope that, during the RotS review, he mentions how Obi Wan is a completely incompetent Jedi, who can’t knock the little droids on his ship off by using the Force. Seriously, he’s used the Force so damn many times during the course of these movies to push droids around, but he can’t do anything about the little droids eating his ship? Honestly?

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by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bummer. I was expecting the Scarlet Johansen sex tapes.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I though Ewan did a bang up job with what he was given.

Natalie Portman has sort of two notes that she can hit on her acting tuba, so it’s no real surprise that she failed to rise above a combination of bad writing and bad direction.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

has sort of two notes that she can hit on her acting tuba

Ha! I like this idiom.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I could rec’ that one part of the sentence, I totally would!

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by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I borrowed Revenge of the Sith from my brother a few months back, and watched it for the first time since I saw it in the theater. I remembered really liking it then, thinking it was easily the best movie since Empire.

But the dialog was awful, the acting atrocious, the CGI overdone as usual… The second time through, I really didn’t enjoy this movie anymore.

But the WORST part about it was watching the DVD extras. There’s a bit in there where they show George Lucas re-writing his script, and walking out of his office to thunderous applause. So I have to wonder if his initial writing was pretty good, he looked at it and thought, “Eh…” went back into his office and completely ruined the script after that.

Mostly, I felt embarrassed for Natalie and Ewan while watching that movie. And of course, we all felt embarrassed for Darth Vader at the very end.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no, not the younglings!

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

SHE LOST THE FUCKING WILL TO LIVE!!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s baby #1!
LUKE!
Aaaaaaand here’s baby #2!
LEIA!

LOOK, IT TIES IN TO THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY!!!

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked

Ewan McGwagor…and of course Samuel L. Jackson.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like both actors, especially Jackson. But this is part of the whole problem. You get SLJ to be in your movie and he doesn’t even get to do any Samuel L. Jacksonisms. Of course actors need to bring their own stuff to the scene but it’s also up to the director to help them and Lucas is completely disinterested in cultivating human performances. Everyone just got plopped in front of a blue screen while the director was wondering how hard it would be to replace you with CGI.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was expecting SLJ to do some ass kicking. It never really happened.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

He almost killed the emperor

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

How inspiring.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’re going to almost-make the playoffs this year!

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

That read like one of Sir Robin’s accomplishments in Holy GRail.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jedi Not-appearing-in-this-film was pretty bad ass too.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sir Robin who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor, who had nearly stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol, and who had personally wet himself at the Battle of Badon Hill!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

He did kill Jango.

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would have rather seen it go the other way around.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t like Mace Windu, I’m guessing?

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Think of how interesting it would have been had he died there. I actually liked Mace Windu I just hoped he would kick some more arse.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone potentially interesting suffered from the focus being on Anakin and Padme. The EU is kind of nice in that respect.

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

EU cares about Greece and Spain?

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Liam Neeson too. And their fights with Darth Maul were AWESOME.

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by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I also like Liam Neeson…

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was such an awful character, though.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Liam Neeson’s superpower is the ability to give even Lucas’ dreck a certain degree of gravitas. But man, he was pushing it in TPM.

Though in retrospect, he made out better than anyone else. He didn’t have to be in the other two prequels.

by Darkrose on Sep 14, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The case of Neeson is even more egregious than Jackson’s, to me. Here’s a guy for whom it’s almost impossible to be dull on screen and yet Lucas accomplished it. Bleah.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

Neeson was pretty dull in a few movies.

I didn’t like him in Batman

But he was the voice of Aslan and the father character in Fallout 3.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was great in Batman! Never saw Aslan (I read the book as a kid, though) or Fallout 3. (Fallout 3?)

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I just didn’t like the character…

Fallout 3 is a video game (a dang good one at that)

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I figured it was a video game, and I’m aware enough of movies based on video games. I’m mildly (but I guess only mildly) surprised that someone with the relative stature of Neeson would be in one, though. They’re usually not that good.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel precisely the same way about Ewan McGregor. An actor so charismatic giving a performance so dull.

by Amynishiki on Sep 14, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually like his character. A jedi with a human side and a sense of humor.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

OMG i agreed with calbear

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

The end times are upon us.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Be afraid.

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

the last sign is when DFARowand agrees with me.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still haven’t seen Trainspotting! Kelly MacDonald’s in it, too. I like her.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

dude

stop whatever you’re doing right now and rent/netflix/download that shit.

seriously one of the best movies ever.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

better than Newsies?!

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t imagine why anybody would enjoy playing for the Giants right now.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m in this line. If he isn’t having fun on a team that is collapsing, it’s hard to blame him.

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pill? Christian?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oxymoron!

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Darren Fo—(gets picked off)

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

"That's what speed can do for you!"

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

The funniest part was that when I saw him PR, I was like, “hmm, he’s a 50-50 bet to get caught stealing or actually steal the base. I guess he could get picked off and caught stealing, but that’d be a push.” I did not think he would just get picked off straight up. LOLME!

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

dammit

that irritated me to no end. Ford gotta go.

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by natteringnabob on Sep 14, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why should we care about what he does or doesn’t feel? He gets on base, that’s all I want.

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Sep 14, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bastard

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

/selfish Beltran hits Homer.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Well done.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Golf glap

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I THINK THE REAL GOOD CELEBRATIONS ARE IN AA.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alcoholics Anonymous?

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

He had just come in from getting put out by fielder’s choice. He probably didn’t have much time to get all excited. Even if he he did have time I care more about him reaching base 4 times in 6 plate appearances.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you were Carlos Beltran, would you be enjoying yourself right now?

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 14, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

This strikes me as unimportant.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well

It strikes me as something that certainly should be unimportant, but with this organization, you never know.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

NOT A GOOD SOLDIER

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by kdl on Sep 14, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another thing I’ve noticed is that he hasnt been doing postgame Q&A’s with the media like he was before. They seemed to stop around the time the Giants started looking out of contention. I wonder if Baggs’ harsh words of Beltran were retaliation for this. I think thats what the media does in order to coerce people to answer questions. They’ll write negative things about people to drawn them out.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t think of a single instance where the media turned on a player because he was seen as indifferent.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, I’m saying that he hasnt been cooperative with them. He hasnt been doing the Q&A’s like he was before. He had even done them after having really bad games at the plate. He did it after that one game where the Giants lost and he had left a ton of runners base. Reporters need access to do their jobs.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know it comes with the job but I don’t give a shit if he farts at reporters every time they by his locker as long as he keeps hitting. You have to remember that whatever they write is taken as gospel so they can make a guy look as good or as bad as they want.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

From Carl Stewart/Extra Baggs

comment:

Beltran did not score from second on Sandoval’s single in the first inning due to lack of hustle/jump. Panda was waiting for him as Beltran took the field in the top of the second. Panda got in his face. Cabrera got in between them as this went on for several seconds. Great to see Sandoval show some leadership. Beltran can take his non clutch hitting, overpaid butt somewhere else. The Giants don’t need him here.

I’m not sure about the 2nd half of that comment but the first half is clearly wrong…the ball was lined toward short…Beltran did the right thing by freezing. Heck, Ross froze too.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19179631

People are just looking for things to complain about…

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants don’t need him here.

That is laughable.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants don't need guys hitting over 300 who take walks and have power!

Because we have, uhh….

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

grits….al dente

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pablo takes walks. Sometimes.

I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.

by Tay on Sep 14, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's a league averageish walk taker

Which is fine, since he hits for average and power. But he’s not a “three tool” hitter.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

People are just looking for things to complain about…

in one.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t get that… he froze on the line drive exactly as he should have and then was held up by The Human Green Light himself.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

bring back fransen fransen can hit and play with hustle

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

fred luis needs to take a pitch

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was the one name (s)he spelled correctly!

But he does need to hid the cutoff man.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s right haha.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

hit, dammit.

Hit.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

beltran gotta go

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everything you say is true. But from my vantage point, Beltran was accelerating and would have made it.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, this person was at the game?

Beltran did the right thing by freezing on the line drive, especially with the ball being hit right over the head of the shortstop. Flannery was a dumbass for not waving him in.

It don’t know if this is true. On a side note, Pablo does seem to be coming into his own now, maturing as a ball player.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

#selfishbeltran took Flannery’s stop sign instead of trying to score a run himself? Goddamn selfish bastard.

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by Badly Browned on Sep 14, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

How can it be “lack of hustle/jump?” Was it lack of hustle or was it a bad jump. This comment suggests that getting a bad jump is evidence of a lack of hustle.

by BestHyperboleEver on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

because

Beltran is selfish.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well then someone should rez his azz.

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why is this such a big deal to you?

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well

if he is dead inside…the Giants would be using zombies players. That would explain the anemic offense. So, the key to next year is to use non-zombie players.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

if he is dead inside…the Giants would be using zombies players.

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by scout6 on Sep 14, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt a team of zombies would be anemic considering the amount of human blood they ingest.

by BestHyperboleEver on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remember when Cain was supposed to regress because he was unsustainably lucky?

Yeah, that was cool.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm a lot more worried about his workload than his xFIP

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would help if he could work from home for a few games. That helps me catch up on assignments.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

The team-player thing

is what I really like about Cain.

He doesn’t seem threatened by younger players (Tim, MadBum) who play really well – and in Tim’s case, kind of stole his thunder.

There’s an even-temperedness and mature quality about him that is unusual in sports.

And of course it doesn’t hurt that he’s a Cy-Young quality pitcher – though, typical for him, he hasn’t won it.

I hope we have him forever.

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 8:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Timmy's actually older than he is by a few months (iirc)

But I know what you mean.

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Sep 14, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re right. Good catch. Shoulda said “guys who came up later.”

Weird to think Cain and Schierholtz are pretty much the same age as Tim. They seem so much, well, OLDER.

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Timmy is forever a teenager

Cain was mature when he was 19

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that will happen. In fact, I think they let Burrell and Ross walk as well.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think so too. Although I’m kind of worried about who the brain trust will find to replace them.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like they'll offer DeRosa a minor league ST invite at least.

They seem to like him a lot.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, they should let Ross walk

If Burrell is healthy and they can bring him back for the same amount of money next year, they should do that. But my gut feeling is that he’ll retire.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, it's whatever

The problem is if he’s “healthy” but hits .400 in spring training with a .600 BABIP and then Bochy plays him in LF every day.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Once more, with feeling:

Juan Pierre!

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah Ah Ah

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are certain guys who, if the Giants sign them and put them on the Opening Day roster next season,

guarantee the Giants won’t win the World Series or even make the playoffs. Juan Pierre is pretty high on that list.

by Every6thDay on Sep 14, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Turns out Miguel Tejada was high on this year's list.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I think we were lying to ourselves.

by Every6thDay on Sep 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they let Ross walk

and Burrell retires, sounds like his injury is bad.

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by scout6 on Sep 14, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

there’s speculation that they’ll give him a minor league deal and take it from there

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 14, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone make a gif/pic of the O-Dog on the ground?

I would do it but I’m lazy and graphically-challenged

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Brett Pill has 5 games, 15 PA's and 17 AB's so far

Buster Posey had 7 games, 17 PA’s and 17 AB’s for his 2009 call up. Pill is on pace to get alot more than that, where is Belt?

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by kb2011sfg on Sep 14, 2011 8:30 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Who?

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Belt's time with the Giants' organization is coming to an end.

I suspect he’ll be traded this winter for a bullpen arm. Hopefully, it’s not the Wayne Franklin & Leo Estrella deal again.

by Every6thDay on Sep 14, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chasm?

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Sabean has cast his lot with Bochy, Bochy has no use for Belt, ergo, Belt will be traded to make room for guys Bochy will play.

by Every6thDay on Sep 14, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I highly highly doubt this

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Sabean’s smarter than that when it comes to organizational chips.

Belt’s not untouchable, but it’d take something pretty magic to pry him loose.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

honestly

weren’t people freak out about how Bochy never played Buster in 2009?

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, with good reason. I’d say that 2010 confirmed our fears.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was terrified he would end up Rookie Of The Year.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, no. But the fact that Molina had to be traded away to get Buster time at catcher says something about Bochy’s preferences.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still think it’s possible that was basically the plan – starting out at first base and getting adjusted to big league pitching before taking over the catching duties. Bengie being tradeable was the big bonus.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

He played in 27 games before Molina was traded and started at catcher twice. Perhaps it was “all according to plan” (I don’t know if that’s just some ex post facto justification), but that ratio seems a bit off to me for the purported catcher of the future.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

How so, if the idea was not to burden him with catching? Too much catching?
It may well be after the fact justification, but the basic timing is exactly what I thought would would make sense – dip the toe in the water in late 2009, called up for real in mid 2010. Not wanting to throw him directly to the wolves by starting him at catcher right away isn’t the height of subtlety… so the first base thing never bothered me too much, so long as it was temporary. The Buster’s development path outrage mystifies me.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Given Bochy and Sabean’s predilection for veterans, the justification after-the-fact rings a little hollow. It’s not really knowable. /shrugs

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

And yet, they displaced Veteran Huff off of 1B into the OF to put Buster in, and played Buster constantly, and eventually moved him into catcher after Molina was displaced. What’s the inconsistency here?

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Belt’s not untouchable, but it’d take something pretty magic to pry him loose.

Like 10 weeks of some aging—but talented—veteran.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t blame you for the pessimism but I don’t think this will happen.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brett Pill’s sub-.300 OBP and sup-.700 slugging are sure signs that he can hit at the major league level, though.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

DINGERZ A-POPPIN

Man I’m glad “Pill the Thrill” didn’t catch on. I like Brett Pill okay and hope he finds some success somewhere, but that’s just obnoxious.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still on BRETT PILL WALK WATCH 2K11

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, no doubt.

Brett Pill is the type of player Bruce Bochy likes.

by Every6thDay on Sep 14, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

In 2009, we were in THAT thing. I’m not sure what it was, but we were definitely in it.

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by Tay on Sep 14, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

For Lars and Letter2
WASHINGTON (AP) — The design for NASA’s newest behemoth of a rocket harkens back to the giant workhorse liquid rockets that propelled men to the moon. But this time the destinations will be much farther and the rocket even more powerful.

The Obama administration on Wednesday will unveil its much-delayed general plans for its rocket design, called the Space Launch System, which will cost about $35 billion, according to senior administration sources and information obtained by The Associated Press. It will carry astronauts in a capsule on top and start test launching in six years.

http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-nasa-unveils-giant-rocket-design-100048293.html

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Now that would be cool.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

bipartisan support!

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m wary, but may enter into talks with him about this.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can we send up O-Cab as the test astronaut? And, like, NOW?

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cool!

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I have a couple of issues with the wording of this press release though. Champagne Room issues, so I will leave it at that.

I posted the budget for this thing the other day.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m impressed the Obama administration is so skilled at rocket design!

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

but can they make it into a pterodactyl?

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh...that was one of my issues

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had a feeling about that.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

It sounds great but has trouble getting to its destination!

by Every6thDay on Sep 14, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was weird too but assumed that there were NASA scientists behind the design.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to ahead and assume a Car Built for Homer situation.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should see his math notebook. He has this sweet rendering of a chick on a T-rex fighting zombie Hitler.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

And how would this be any better than the Constellation program? They tossed that out to start over again? Geez.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

The main difference is the liquid rocket engine chosen for the first stage, ARES-V would have used a newer RS-68 engine burning a LOX/LH2 mix while this new rocket is going to use the RS-25D which was a leftover design from the shuttle. In both cases, the plan is to use a modified S-IVB engine for the Earth departure stage.

But your main point stands, this is mostly a re-paint/rename job.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought. Criminy. In these times of trouble, I find it helpful to turn once again to Aaron Sorkin:

JOSH: Why am I even meeting with some geeks from NASA?

DONNA: I’m sure they’re not geeks. I’m sure they’re not all geeks, and it’s to
discuss administration space priorities. (beat) Do we even have space priorities?

JOSH: Exactly.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

/sighs.

Josh and Donna! Brings me back.

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, my God, you’re putting my mother’s cats on the Supreme Court.

by Every6thDay on Sep 14, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it is particularly interesting that the best they could do was slap some bells and whistles on the J-2 engine (which was originally designed for the Saturn 4B) for the Earth departure stage.

That is how far ahead of the curve those fuckers were. That type of genius doesn’t exist anymore.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re right. For a series two years ago, I interviewed a couple of folks at MSFC who worked on Saturn boosters. The shocking thing I learned is how useful the technology still is. Some of it’s nearly a half-century old, and it would still work as well or better than the designs that have come about since.

The difference, of course, is that without a sustaining commitment, the knowledge base dried up. The Saturn engineers are in their twilight years, and as they die, so too does the firsthand experience.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

So they got rid of shuttles but still plan on doing manned flights?

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

the idea is for NASA to do deep space exploration while private company handle orbital flights.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

It seem reasonable I guess. Although since they already had the equipment and ability to do orbital flights it doesn’t make any sense to contract it out.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t stop contractors from doing jobs that the military could handle.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Originally read this as...
The design for NASA’s newest behemoth of a rocket harkens back to the giant workhorse liquid rockets that propellered men to the moon.

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by Ott on Sep 14, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is a long uneventful 3 day journey. You need to do something to keep yourself entertained. Zero-G only adds to the experience.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about the freeze dried ice cream? (which never went into space).

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

On short trips they would often just not eat to minimize the necessity of using the zero-g crapper. Zero-g gives ‘floater’ a whole new meaning.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's an article on ESPN insider saying the Mets should release Jason Bay

If that happens, the Giants should swoooooooooooooooooop.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

As long as he doesn't turn into the next Aaron Rowand

I’m cool with that, he could become a younger Pat Burrell type bat.

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by kb2011sfg on Sep 14, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well we would only have to pay him league minimum

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Jason Bay for league minimum would be perfectly fine.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Downside: You might have to pay a bad player $600,000

Upside: He had an OPS over 900 two years ago, and might still have a really good hitter somewhere inside him.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's kinda built into the downside

If his knees make him bad.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meh. If the choice is between him and Ross for $8 million/year, I’d probably take Bay. Of course, the real choice is between Bay and Juan Pierre on a 3/21 deal.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Opening day CF

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Sep 14, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

At the very least

This would be hilarious

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cain 4 Fielder - 2011 Version

There was a chat on ESPN that asked about a Bumgarner, Belt, Surkamp for Votto trade. Seems like a lot to give up on the Giants end. Votto is a stud, but he is near FA. I don’t think I would even do Bumgarner for Votto straight up. Plus, we already gave up Wheeler, so this would be a big hit to our starting pitching.

I think number one priority in off-season is to sign Rollins to a Renteria-esque two year deal. Then get a back up catcher who can hit a little. It seems like there are always plenty of those guys – Barrajas, Olivos, etc. Hernandez or Torrealba would actually be ideal.

by ErodCal on Sep 14, 2011 8:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Bumgarner is as close to untouchable as any player in MLB, I think

22 years old with one of the best FIPs in baseball and a year and a half of service time? I don’t know if I’d trade him for Hanley straight up.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

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by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

(Hanley just being a name selected at random from my internal list of Really Fucking Awesome Young Players.)

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by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's one of those where I can see the argument either way

I probably wouldn’t do it, but I wouldn’t be mad if they did it either.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meh. He’s not a top 50 player IMO.

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still completely nuts.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hernandez is a type A though…

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is he?

Will the Reds offer him arb? What if he took it?

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to mlbtraderumor

he is…I think Reds would offer arb.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be so sure

I believe he took a one-year deal there last year, and arb would give him a raise. And the Reds absolutely do not want him to accept arb and block their catching prospects.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but a reasonable GM would have trade Hernandez at the trading deadline.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Blue Jays wanted Bumgarner for Jose Bautista in 2010.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Sep 14, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Soulda done that one.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

And an h in there, too

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha, oh man

I’d make that trade, obviously. Oh well.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only if we get addtional Men in White.

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by Deleuzian on Sep 14, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes I think about how with Belt, Torres, and Schierholtz as the only likely outfielders on the team in 2012, it’s a good thing we won’t have Neal around for Spring Training to make things complicated.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Hahahahahah.

Watch them nontender Torres.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

he’s cheap…no reason to non-tender him.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

This team has done sillier things. If they think that Christian has Torres’ upside with the bat (why the heck else is Christian getting so much playing time?) I could see Christian taking Torres spot.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still at a loss as to how the FO could seriously think there’s an up-side to Justin Christian.

by Bar None on Sep 14, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brett Pill is what Rumsfeld would term a known unknown

to everyone but the Giants’ FO.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

then

also no reason to bench him now or to have sent him to Fresno for two weeks.

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by natteringnabob on Sep 14, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

TIME TRAVEL

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Sep 14, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

How?

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

88 mph.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weren’t there a couple of odd facts about how the Giants could not have won the World Series if certain transactions hadn’t happened, ones that looked bad at the time, etc.?

Cabrera removed Neal from the org, “blocked” Tejada and Crawford from playing which led to x, y, z…

that’s all I meant. I’m trying to hang more significance on this awful player than he deserves to underscore how much he is hated.

by Every6thDay on Sep 14, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Benitez allowed for Posey to be drafted?

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Starring Joseph Gordon Levitt in his most heartbreaking role yet.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tim Stauffer is pitching?!

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tim Wakefield pitched yesterday…

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Faced with the possibility of finishing with a losing record for the first time in his five-year career, Lincecum (12-12, 2.68 ERA)

by Turf_Toe_ on Sep 14, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh. I’d forgotten how much the runs/game environment has changed since 2009.

Matt Cain’s 2009 ERA: 2.89, 148 ERA+
2011 ERA: 2.79, 129 ERA+

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

KILL IT WITH FIRE
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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Weird. And cool. But weird.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not cool, man.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean that it’s cool to look at things from a different perspective.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I find your lack of Dodger hate… disturbing.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean

I hate the Dodgers. But if the Dodgers had been the ones to move to San Francisco, I would have hated the Giants.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Had the Giants moved to LA they would have noticed how shitty it is and then then moved to the Bay Area. Eventually LA would have had the A’s which is ok by me.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do hate the Dodgers. Certain ones less so, but that’s the complexity of life.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

what about the circle of life?

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

It always leads back to galoots, for some reason.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m all for a nuanced outlook on life but not in this case. I mean Tommy LaSorda, Mike Piazza, Kirk Gibson, Eric Gagne, Steve Finley… These are the people who crush dreams and feed off of unicorn tears. Sure, maybe a Dodger here and there may seem harmless but it’s just a siren song and, given the opportunity, they will lull you to sleep and your ship of life will be demolished on the rocky shores of Chavez Latrine.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to state unequivocally that I despise Tommy Lasorda and all he stands for. And Vin Scully is a subpar broadcaster. In fact, the only Dodger I like is Bi******ley, because he seems somewhat Cainian. And I can’t hate Kershaw because he cares about kids in Africa. But other than that, yeah, the Dodgers are generally awful people who play for a generally awful fanbase.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

You just have to learn to also hate the kids in Africa

It’s hard, I know. But it’s for baseball.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about the rains down in Africa?

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

What happened to Ethier?

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are things I like about him, but if I say so too loudly, Alex Lewis will yell at me.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

(whispers) You can tell me.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s cute, and he bakes a lot.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

But does he bake Austrian pastries?

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

He powers his oven by burning dolphins and puppies.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I frost my cake with unicorn tears!

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Hop up.”

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Done and done.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t recognize anyone, even the superstars. Is this Mauer?

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is. What a nice guy.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

But I am constitutionally opposed to HIS HAIR, since having been forced to stare at it in those ads.

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think his hair does look better since he signed on with Head and Shoulders.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

OMG faints

yes joe yes i will we will make heartbreaking music with our bodies

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who could resist a man who shows up on your doorstep with flowers and a gallon of milk?

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is exactly my point.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

not me that’s fer sher

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like him if he were a Giant!

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be cool.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is kinda a terrible defender though

He’s one of those Ryan Braun types where you see how athletic he is and you’re like, wow, how are you so bad at defense?

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally. His wRC could, you know, be a better BABIP…

I wish I could hold better baseball conversations.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

It might be helpful on this here baseball blog

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

this is not a baseball blog…Frisbee himself admitted as much.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think a guy who hides in people’s bathtubs can be considered much of an authority.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's why talking defense is great

Defense metrics are still unreliable enough that the eyeball test can be valid in a discussion. So you can go into it armed with the fact that Andre Ethier just looks kinda like a jackass out there.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

that always fascinates me

Ryan Braun especially – he’s so freakishly talented, and then you watch him faceplant on the basepaths or just completely miss a pretty routine fly ball and you’re like “Dude, how did you do that?” It seems harder than doing it right.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

He came in on a line drive tonight. But the weird thing is that when people would say he’s awful or bad or whatever, I’d ask them if they had ever seen him misplay a ball and the usual answer is something like “not since this or that play last year.” The standard non-thinking response is that he is slow or gets bad jumps and those are untrue.

If you tell people that player X is bad and player Y is good, they just affirm whatever they’ve been told is my impression.

by Salty on Sep 14, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that kinda of like

having Hans Solo with the Empire?

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

BURN THE WITCH

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to throw up.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

This made me really uncomfortable.

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by j14 on Sep 14, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong. HELLA wrong. And evil. KIWF.

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by KatSkahnne on Sep 14, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Football OT:

I would really like the Niners to beat the Cowboys this weekend…probably not going to happen but would like for it to happen…

Also…WTF is with the Niners’ schedule: Dallas, @Philly, TB, @ Detroit, @Washing, NYG, @ Baltimore and Pittsburgh..

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

This is an excellent idea

http://www.slate.com/id/2303744/pagenum/all/

Anyone ever try any of those sites before? I always have trouble buying dress shirts because I’m tall and skinny, so anything off the rack that’s slim enough usually has a very small neck and sleeves that aren’t long enough. I’d much rather pay 80-120 for a shirt that fits perfectly than keep spending 40ish on shirts I don’t like. I wonder if I’d be able to get one before the wedding I’m going to on 10/1 without ridiculous rush charges.

Also, the wedding is between a filipino girl I was good friends with in high school and a jewish guy. Is it weird that my biggest concern is which family won in the fight over whether or not there will be a suckling pig? I’m really hoping for some lechon.

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Sep 14, 2011 9:11 AM PDT reply actions  

I’ve heard the same about custom athletic shoes: expensive but completely worth it.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless it’s a small wedding or at a hall somewhere, I doubt there’ll be lechon.

by City Girl on Sep 14, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Grit Scale

Really fascinating piece in the NYT Mag this Sunday, but one thing stood out:

People who accomplished great things, she noticed, often combined a passion for a single mission with an unswerving dedication to achieve that mission, whatever the obstacles and however long it might take. She decided she needed to name this quality, and she chose the word "grit."

She developed a test to measure grit, which she called the Grit Scale. It is a deceptively simple test, in that it requires you to rate yourself on just 12 questions, from "I finish whatever I begin" to "I often set a goal but later choose to pursue a different one." It takes about three minutes to complete, and it relies entirely on self-report — and yet when Duckworth took it out into the field, she found it was remarkably predictive of success.

by capn on Sep 14, 2011 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Sure

The key, though, is that people’s grit showed up in their “great accomplishments”. Grit unto itself is neither virtue nor vice.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure I understand. I think they are saying (though I doubt they have data to support) that people with Grit end up being successful. I think that is overly simple and while “persistence” does seem like a necessary trait for success, knowing when to cut bait is also quite important. Some of the least successful people I have known were overly persistent to a fault.

by capn on Sep 14, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Random fact: Albert Pujols

since the AS break: .321/.381/.615 in 244 PAs

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:21 AM PDT reply actions  

That OBP is actually still a little subpar for him.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

will only get 10 year $260 million contract.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Walk rate’s down because Lance Berkman has gone insane.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a good point. Maybe if Jeff Kent hadn’t been around in ‘02, Bonds’ OBP would have been .682 instead of .582.

by non sequitur on Sep 14, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

He'd look good in the uni.

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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeter since the ASB:

.330/.383/.428

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He was overpaid

But not by that much.

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like remembering all of the front page headlines from April about how Jeter was finished, and Jeter being all sick of hearing about it.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately for Miggy and Cabrera, they were actually finished.

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still

a 1.7 oWAR and a defensive hack at SS (-1.3 dWAR) now. Also still has 2 more years at $33 million left on his contract.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought you didn't trust defensive statistics?

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by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that it’s that important for position players since their primary value is at the plate. Since Jeter has been just below league average at the plate…his defensive suckiness becomes a factor.

Also, downward trend in his defensive skills for a while.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that it’s that important for position players since their primary value is at the plate.

But it is for pitchers!

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aside from a blip or two, he’s never been good with the glove.

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by speckops on Sep 14, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’re paying him for his bat and his name and his records, though. His defense is, sort of, beside the point. If they’re getting those first three things, they’re getting their money’s worth.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well…two out of three is not too bad.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’re getting his bat. Even his season totals are very solid for a SS. His post-ASB bat has been excellent.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 14, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow. y'all talk a lot.

just sayin

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TGWTWS

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by son of ggf on Sep 14, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Modest Proprosal

In the offseason, we have a weekly Matt Cain Appreciation Thread on this site.

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by Kitspool on Sep 14, 2011 9:49 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Your subject line suggests that children – Dodger children? – might be eaten.

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another Modest Proposal

Eat the free agents who don’t perform well.

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mmmm…free agent BBQ.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gritty Long Pig with grits.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

nom nom nom.

/Done.

Pass the O-Cab?

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by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carlos Beltran is dead inside?

Let’s make him dead OUTSIDE.

I don’t know what that means.

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by Murray, Present on Sep 14, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

NOT MODEST ENOUGH

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Objection

I will require those posts for rosterbating.

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Let me tell you something, my Kraut-Mick friend

Nice Woltz reference in the post, Grant, but we all know what happened to him…

Jack Woltz sleeps wit da horsies.

by biff pocoroba on Sep 14, 2011 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Calling apistat

I didn’t realise until yesterday that you worked in law. Another atty? (and I’d give YOU my private line, but only to discuss BB.)

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 14, 2011 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

The Quest for sub-15

Standing in the way of the Giants (78 wins, 12th place) are the Blue Jays, White Sox, Reds, Indians, and Dodgers (the last three are in a 3 way tie at 72 wins).

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

As predicted, Gallo has in hand RiverCat tix for Fri, Sat or Sun . . .

 . . against the Omaha Prairie Schooners for the PCL championship. E-mail me at the profile address and we’ll work out a way to get them to you if you can go.

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by gallo del cielo on Sep 14, 2011 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

How cool a name is “Prairie Schooners”?

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Your baseball team has died of dysentery.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

CROSSING THE DOTHRAKI SEA

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by Murray, Present on Sep 14, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

WHERE IS THIS SEA I SHALL SAIL MY SHIPS ACROSS IT TO FIND THE DRAGON QUEEN

LOL U DUMB

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, now that I won’t be going to any SJ games over the weekend… :(

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by kdl on Sep 14, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dare not speaking the truth's name

How many wins does Cain have since the All-Star break?
It’s been dispiriting how often Cain goes to the 6th, 7th, or 8th inning with a lead — okay, only a 1-run lead; but that’s the way SF does things — and given it back.
Shouldn’t he come in for some criticism, as great as he is?

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 10:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Honestly

When is the last time you have ever seen him pick a runner off?

I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.

by Tay on Sep 14, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since the AS break

Cain has gone 3-5 with 4 NDs.

He has a 2.39 ERA with a WHIP of 1.012

of the 31 games he’s started, Cain has had 13 games where he has 0-2 runs in support (2-9), 13 games where he has received 3-5 runs in support (5-1 and 7 NDs) and 5 games in which he has received 6 or more runs of support (4-0).

You need to read this:

http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/09/in-praise-of-wins-sort-of.html

*Justin Verlander is pitching amazing baseball this year. The Tigers have still scored five or more runs in 13 of his 21 wins. The Tigers have scored four runs in another five of his wins.
Well … Francis has actually thrown one more quality start than Nova this year, 15-14. Trouble is, in Francis’ quality starts his record is 5-5. Nova in his quality starts is 11-1. So, immediately you ask: Are Nova’s quality starts of a higher quality than Francis’? Well, his ERA in those 14 quality starts is 2.40 to Francis’ 2.52. But they both average 6 2/3 innings in those quality starts, their walks and hits per inning are almost identical and Francis has the better strikeout-to-walk. Point is they when they are throwing quality starts they are not THAT different. But Nova is 11-1. Francis is 5-5.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also this
Cain contributed a quality start (at least six innings, no more than three earned runs) for the 24th time in 30 starts — the most among N.L. pitchers.

(from the Merc)

It’s now 25 quality starts in 31 starts.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

He coughs up leads in the 6th, 7th, and 8th innings of games. He shouldn’t EVER allow 2 runs to cross homeplate! HE’S NOT A WINNER!!!

(Link)

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Sep 14, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Sep 14, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was researching the run support situation

and found this article…

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/18/SPHG1KOL4Q.DTL
If you want, just scroll down to the chart that shows the comparative run support and relevant stats as of the article date (8/19). IMNSHO, Matt and Tim have shown class above and beyond by not throwing the hitters under the bus. In fact, Tim’s blame-grabbing is becoming borderline dysfunctional – if falling on one’s proverbial sword were an Olympic event, the guy would have more gold medals than Spitz and Phelps combined. Matt, well, the guy looks angry sometimes, but he never acts out. He is amazing. He is Cain.

Seriously, the position guys owe the starters so much more. ARGH.

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by KatSkahnne on Sep 14, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Productivity ruined

Scarlett Johansson’s name popped up on a list of celebrities who found themselves the target of hackers that broke into their cell phones and leaked some nude photos and video.

by Turf_Toe_ on Sep 14, 2011 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Why would someone keep a provocative picture of themself on their cell phone?

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why would someone keep sex tapes of themselves in their house?

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

All the porn featuring me is in the hands of the producers.

I rhyme with freak.

by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where it belongs.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

In their hands?

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Sep 14, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

People are Strange — wasn’t that a Doors song

by Turf_Toe_ on Sep 14, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

self-improvement…and at least theres someone else in the movie? I guess?

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where else would you keep them?

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the guest bath.

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe that’s what celebrities do over lunch. Instead of showing each other pictures of their kids, they whip out their iPhones.

by Turf_Toe_ on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shift-A

Thank you Matt Cain. And thank you for making this city your (at least part time) home. It says a lot about your taste and class.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Still seems like to me

that he lives in a pretty small place.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if that place is like $2M. I seem to recall that Moises Alou had a house in that neighborhood that was ~$4M.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 14, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

does he live in SF? I would think that he should live in the Peninsula…better for the kiddo.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he lived in Noe Valley (which is a neighborhood in SF) but I could be wrong.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Sep 14, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

He does; you’re not..

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably because he’d rather not live in the suburbs, because they can be boring and lame.

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

NO U!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL DANVILLE!

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps his wife doesn’t want to live in a big place where she has to clean all the time.

by City Girl on Sep 14, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I assume that they could afford a cleaning service

also…kiddo needs space

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they should build a park here in SF.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hartley gonna be a city girl

Queen bit of the playground

Blair Waldorf of it all

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason

despite his suckiness as a Giant, I like Matt Morris…also Matheny.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOLINEUP
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9/14/11 #sfgiants lineup: Ross CF Keppinger 2B Beltran RF Pablo 3B Huff 1B Belt LF HSanchez C Crawford SS Timmy P

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

I actually like this lineup.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Sep 14, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is not bad.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can live with it

Frustrated with the persistent benching of Torres but if it’s him or Belt in the lineup…

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

No this is interesting

I mean, you’re still playing a guy who won’t be on the team in 2012 at CF over a guy who should be, but at least it’s interesting.

Cry, the beloved Fontenot.

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

No. 3 Hitter Mike Fontenot will not be pleased…

by Hyoton on Sep 14, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes. He does not carry the slimy lawyer look very well.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

And he needs a better tailor.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, it looks like he is wearing his father’s jacket.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I have that same problem. Hard for us short guys.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

/nods

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

You actually look bigger if your suit is tailored to fit the body you have.

I hate when small guys wear giant jackets.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 14, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s just tougher to find stuff off the rack.

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Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

So true. And who has the money to have all of it altered?

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh heh you said hard

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

You kidder, you.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s got to do something about that hair.

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by kdl on Sep 14, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that an inside joke?

Or just a comment on Burris’ general good grooming?

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by kdl on Sep 14, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

OMG

That is so awesome.

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by kdl on Sep 14, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meh..

As long as Cabrera isn’t playing I’m happy.

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by calgiants86 on Sep 14, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer Torres in center, Ross in left, Belt at first, Fontenot at SS, but this is way better than yesterday at least

Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.

by baetown415 on Sep 14, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

a nice lineup on a day I can’t watch the game. Thanks, Boch!

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 14, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

AmyGGiants Amy Gutierrez
9/14/11 #sfgiants lineup: Ross CF Keppinger 2B Beltran RF Pablo 3B Huff 1B Belt LF HSanchez C Crawford SS Timmy P

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
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by scout6 on Sep 14, 2011 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Solid

MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!

by Anonymous1337 on Sep 14, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

NEEDZ MOAR OCAB

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by Murray, Present on Sep 14, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have to go down to the body shop today

and cough up $1,200 to fix someone else’s car…could have been worse I guess

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Matt Cain story

I went to the game last night with the love of my life, my straight friend from college, the arrogant gorgeous bastard. He lives in Noe Valley and has run into the Cains, most notably in the middle of last year when he turned the corner and they were RIGHT THERE and he had no time to think but hold up his hand for a hi-5 like a grinning doofus and yell “HEY ATTABOY MATTY!”

Cain returned the high five with a “Yeah!”

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

My life is so much less colorful than yours.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah. I just collect stories and observe. I don’t DO anything. You talk to people for a living!

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think TL2 lives in the part of the country where people talk to each other normally.

by Turf_Toe_ on Sep 14, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

/shudder

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The guy I’m seeing now talks to everyone, and it rattles me. I mean, complete strangers, you know? And he’ll just chat, and I’m all, “Please quit bothering those people.”

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

A.G.B. does that too. It’s one of the things that entranced me about him and also discomfits me no end. DAMNED SELF-CONFIDENT MEN

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know. It’s a little embarrassing, but it’s really endearing, too.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t tell you how many times in college we’d be walking out of a writing class and he’d stop and chat with some pretty girls and I’d be all i dunno where to stand no i don’t want to meet them and he’s all DONT RUN AWAY FFS.

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t run away. I just kind of look amusedly intrigued and wait until he’s done.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well this was me at nineteen and besotted. Nowadays I’m much better at pretending to be social when I need to.

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a good way to put it. My husband does the exact same thing. He talks to everyone.

by City Girl on Sep 14, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll nod and smile at people in SF, but only if I’m wearing my headphones.

by Turf_Toe_ on Sep 14, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

This happened to me in the dorms at college

but only when the internet went out.

Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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by scout6 on Sep 14, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

talking is scary

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by Murray, Present on Sep 14, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think most residents of the San Francisco area are pretty good at tolerating the tourists. We’ll even talk to them a bit after they ask us to take their picture.

Of course, we make fun of them after they leave as well.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 14, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can report the natives were quite friendly to me on both my visits to the city.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s fun to be helpful, it makes you feel smart.

I remember helping a giant group of German tourists operate a BART kiosk. They were so grateful.

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

On my vacation to L.A. last year, I ended up helping some Asian ladies operate a Metro kiosk. I felt pretty good about that.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I point people to the Cliff House and the windmills and how to get back downtown! Also, I tell them there are no Starbucks I know of west of 19th Avenue.

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I found you to be a most charming and enjoyable guide.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

aw, shucks

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

people always ask me for directions when I'm in SF

“Lady, I don’t even live here anymore and I never drove when I did. Look for the 33 Stanyan and follow it.”

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

People always ask me how to get to the ballpark. I tell them, walk towards the water, hang a right and you can’t miss it.

by City Girl on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

/end_up_at_BakerBeach

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

/all their troubles melt away

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

TO YOUR FACE

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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 14, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG. This is an awesome story.

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by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

holy shit can we please just sign him to a lifetime contract right now

because if he leaves the team one day i will seriously shed a tear. Matt Cain.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is perfect. A perfect human being.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

what about Buster?

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

He has a Matt Cain poster on his wall.

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by jhiat00 on Sep 14, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly.

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by kdl on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not Highlander, there can be more than one

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

if only we can mate Matt and Buster

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by DJ Tofu on Sep 14, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve already written, like, seven chapters of that.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am ready.

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are adorable.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have an image in my mind of Beltran sitting and staring coldly at Cain and Posey frolic.

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by Natto on Sep 14, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've extended a dinner invitation to them both

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by son of ggf on Sep 14, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stannis’ OPS is nowhere near that high, tho.

Just play a Brandon or two, come on!

by Tortured on Sep 14, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought R’hllor was a Moneyball god. The old gods and the new believed in ribeyes and strawhats.

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by Murray, Present on Sep 14, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, I’m still with Bloodraven and his Avatar-esque tree net.

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

or InTreeNet

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

holy shit yes

and Andres is his Davos.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 14, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

This reminds me of Toy Story

Buster: I…
Matt: love…
Buster: you! Oh!
Matt: See? That time I said “love”! Okay, now me first.
Buster: [overlapping] Ooh! Okay okay okay…
Matt: I…
Buster: love…
Matt: you! You see what I mean? It changes every time!
Buster: [laughing] You are so smart!

by City Girl on Sep 14, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I should add that the hubby told Matt, “I’m a huge fan” and Matt was really appreciative. That might have been what prompted the long walk and the hand shake.

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by kdl on Sep 14, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

God, he is such a sweet man.

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by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

He really is. The team is so lucky to have him.

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by kdl on Sep 14, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cain taught the homeless man how to fish that day, and now no one in the City goes hungry.

by Turf_Toe_ on Sep 14, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

holy crap

you have the greatest stories kdl.

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by natteringnabob on Sep 14, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow...a good lineup....

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by LostHawkGSW on Sep 14, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Offense will score negative runs.

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by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Latos no-no

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by shanghaijim on Sep 14, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Will it be a moon shot?

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Sep 14, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cain only pitches better at Wrigley and Petco

Unless he really likes day games or wearing ugly uniforms in SD, then I think he will stay a Giant for a long time.

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by Amigo on Sep 14, 2011 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

per Baggs

nothing says white flag more than having 2 RFs.

Here’s the lineup: CF Ross, 2B Keppinger, RF Beltran, 3B Sandoval, 1B Huff, RF Belt, C Sanchez, SS Sanchez, P Lincecum

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2011/09/14/wednesdays-lineup-lincecums-last-start-at-home-this-year/

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by DJ Tofu on Sep 14, 2011 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

You need two RF

With how slow Beltran is out there

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LOL

I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55

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This might interest some of you...
In celebration of the upcoming release of Star Wars: The Complete Saga on Blu-ray, Lucasfilm, Major League Baseball and Stand Up to Cancer have come together to “Use the Force for Good.”

Each team listed below is hosting a Star Wars-themed game which will include Star Wars in-game entertainment, photos with Star Wars characters and much more! Additionally, both Star Wars and baseball fans can use the Force for good by purchasing a special ticket package from select teams that will benefit Stand Up To Cancer. Click on the team logos below for further details.

I missed the threads during/after the G’s Star War night—did y’all have fun?

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

According to the Miami Herald, Mike Cameron was released by the Marlins following a verbal altercation with a flight attendant on the team’s charter flight.
The altercation did not turn physical, but the charter company filed a complaint. While the Marlins’ front office believed they could not keep Cameron following the incident, he obviously didn’t figure in their long-term plans. The 38-year-old outfielder batted .203/.285/.359 with nine homers and 27 RBI over 269 plate appearances between Florida and Boston this season.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

Mayor of Smug.

by rotorueter on Sep 14, 2011 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I completely forgot he was a Marlin

Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

by GiantPain on Sep 14, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Off to the yard…ticket book is nearly bare :~(

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

by bgunn on Sep 14, 2011 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Funky weather today. Have fun!

by City Girl on Sep 14, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Timmy likes the Funk

by Turf_Toe_ on Sep 14, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Getting down just for the funk of it…

by City Girl on Sep 14, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

For Merope
NEW YORK (AP) — A TV meteorologist admitted Wednesday she’d made up claims of being repeatedly attacked by a stranger on the city streets, allegations that sparked an extensive investigation before police said she told them she’d invented the story to get attention.

Heidi Jones, who has worked for stations in New York and Texas and filled in on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” pleaded guilty to misdemeanor false-reporting charges.

http://news.yahoo.com/nyc-tv-meteorologist-admits-false-attack-claims-162809586.html

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Sep 14, 2011 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh, dear.

A listener-supported service

by TheLetter2 on Sep 14, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

CASE IN POINT: ROBERTA GONZALES

HER FORECASTS ARE LIES

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Sep 14, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s the Frequency Kenneth?

by Turf_Toe_ on Sep 14, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can beat that:
Award-winning Independent columnist Johann Hari has publicly apologised for plagiarising the work of others to improve his interviews and will take unpaid leave of absence from the Independent until 2012.

Hari also apologised for editing the Wikipedia entries of people he had clashed with, using the pseudonym David Rose, “in ways that were juvenile or malicious”, saying he was “mortified to have done this”. He admitted calling “one of them antisemitic and homophobic, and the other a drunk”.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/14/johann-hari-apologises-orwell-prize

Sundrendy!

by Deleuzian on Sep 14, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

/reads the article.

So if you’re really sorry, dude, quit your job and do something tough and ugly for a living. That involves actual labor.

I love how people think apologizing gives them a do-over.

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Sep 14, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It makes you wonder how many times things like this happen and they don’t get caught.

by Daver321 on Sep 14, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best Grant quote ever!

From a 2010 post:

Sure, 24 teams passed on Matt Cain in the first round of the 2002 draft, but I like to think that the real luck came when Cain’s mother put that second “T” down on the birth certificate. Experts in onomastics claim this is why the Giants have a tough, workmanlike pitcher instead of a syphilitic, complaining jackass.

by sm559 on Sep 14, 2011 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

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