Post-game thread: L.A. beaten at least once
There are obvious consolation prizes for a season that probably isn't going to end well. Watching Belt play, or Surkamp pitch, or whatever tickles your baseball fancy is about all we have.
Wait, are you excited that the Giants moved 8.5 games of the Diamondbacks today? Oh. Well, it's going to be hard to communicate. It's like being at a cocktail party and talking to someone who really believes that they'll ascend to the heavens on a comet that's approaching Earth. Maybe that will happen! And if it does, I'll be happy for you. But right now, I'm a see what's going on with those crab cakes over there, nice to meet you.
But for the people who prefer reality to fanaticism, those modest consolation prizes weren't satisfying with this series. You realized that if the Giants scored one run while being swept in a three-game series by the Dodgers, that would be the kind of thing that could make a team panic in the offseason. Maybe you couldn't tie it directly to this series, this game, but in 2017, there was a chance that you'd be looking at a $28 million Prince Fielder and wondering, boy, how did that happen? There was, like, a 1% chance that another shutout today would have led to something goofy. Not insignificant.
So apart from the obvious -- Giants beating the Dodgers, and all that -- there might have been real benefits to scoring runs today. Heck, maybe you're geeked on a 10-year deal to Prince Fielder. Don't know. But there's bad, and there's worse. A win today was good because it keeps things steady at bad. That's great!
After the game-specific joy, then you can dig into the consolation prizes within the context of the season. Belt had a hit and a walk, which might mean something to the people who make decisions. Just ignore the double-switch on which he left the game. Brandon Crawford had a great at-bat against Kuo. Pablo had three doubles. Bumgarner wasn't especially efficient, but he continued to show silly strikeout ability. I think he has a chance to be good one of these years.
But of all the consolation prizes, I think I'm most interested in signs of life from Aubrey Huff. He's the starting first baseman next spring, after all. Don't fight it. Don't argue. If he's not the starting first baseman, it's because he's the starting left fielder with Albert Pujols or Fielder at first. Huff will start next year They're not cutting him, and Belt isn't beating him out for anything. So now it's time to root for him.
The Huff/Belt debate in July/August was worthwhile because there was a chance that Belt might have made a bad offense a little better. It's not Huff v. Belt anymore; it's Huff v. Giants. If Huff really has lost all of the talent he possessed last year, well, that stinks. Because Belt still isn't going to be the first baseman, and Huff being bad again would be ... bad. Again.
So even though I don't buy into the even/odd-year thing with Huff, I'm rooting for it. And a game like today's makes you think, okay, maybe there's a little hope after all.
Of course, Huff could play left to make room for Brett Pill, who starts the season at first. There's always that. Maybe I should just stop with the silver linings.
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I hate both these teams playing in this football game right now
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DOH!
Curse you Grant, and your secret threads!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I thoroughly enjoyed that game
It had a weirdly positive feel to it
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by NuschlerFace on Sep 11, 2011 6:01 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
If I had to guess, I bet we see Pill on the 25 man roster for opening day 2012 but not Belt.
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Huff’s a given, and Pill can only play 1B, so Pill is pretty iffy, particularly if they want to rest Buster at 1B some days. We’ll probably not have Burrell, Ross or Beltran, so that seems to lead easily to Belt in LF on the 25 man.
You’ll get Pill at 2B, and you’ll like it.
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Fontenot would still be the best opening day SS we’ve had in the last five years.
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Madison Bumgarner’s K/9 is up to 8.6 on the season. He has an outside shot at getting to 9+ if he keeps striking as many guys out over his last two starts as he has recently.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He’s got a decent shot at 200 Ks as well. He ought to have 3 more starts? Needs 22 more to get there.
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
yes
but he doesn’t hit enough and needs to field more fly balls and grounders.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 11, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
If only he were better at picking off runners.
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He's kinda good, huh?
Fonte-maybe, Fonte-so
Fonte-come, Fonte-go
Fonte-high, Fonte-low
Fonte-yes, Fontenot!
Huff
I’m not rooting for him until he makes an effort to get his fat ass in shape. He doesnt seem to be making any special effort, aside from more work in the cage. He’s just going through the motions, showing up to the ballpark everyday and letting it ride. All his perfomance today proves, if anything, is that the old out of shape man needs his rest. Yeah, he’ll be the crowned a starter going into spring training, but only because the money dictates as such. If it werent for his two year contract, the Giants would at least be looking to the FA market in the offseason to boost production at first base.
I see absolutely nothing to back up anything you're saying.
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He doesn't need facts.
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Beltran
Its seems that in the past couple of games the fans have focused their frustration and anger of the Giants disappointing season on Beltran. The guy was a very hot hitter coming into this series. He’s played hard since joining the Giants. I’m sure he wanted to win just as badly as anyone on the team. It was Sabean who traded for him. Beltran wanted to join a legit contender for the stretch run. I’m sure next season he’ll go play where his skills are appreciated.
The booing is ridiculous. I guess because he wasn’t part of the championship team he doesn’t get a pass. They’re probably the same stupid fans who thinks it’s ok to reach over and grab a fair ball.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
They booed Beltran?
Do they want him to fucking leave?
I don't hate the guy, but now way in hell do I want him anywhere near the ATT Park outfield, except as a visiting player.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
*no way
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"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I don’t want really good baseball players on my team either.
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From what I’ve seen of him he doesn’t look “really good”. Maybe… MAYBE if he’d move to left but I’m not impressed…. then again I didn’t want him in the first place so maybe I only see the negative.
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he's the best offensive player on the team
and only Pablo is even close.
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Only if he will play LF
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I'd rather have Belt in LF and Beltran in RF than any other likely combination
and it’s not particularly close.
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At least Belt will RUN IN RIGHT FIELD
I swear he is walking out there, if he moves to left its not as bad…plus belt needs to be at 1B… I know LOL ME
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well disabuse yourself of that notion
Huff will be at 1B, and again, IMO Huff + Belt + Beltran is the best combination for those 3 positions, barring a free agent signing.
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You are correct . . .
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by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s running, running in pudding!
Beltran on a long term contract is just scary. He’s a running in pudding 60 day dl candidate.
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yes barring other signings that is the best combination
but I think that belt won’t embarrass himself in right while beltran has looked terrible there
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Nate Schierholtz
111 OPS+ (only Pablo is better, 250 PA+)
Highlight-reel defence
Fangraph says he leads the team in baserunning value added
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
by SnowLeopard on Sep 11, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
leads the team in Fangraphs WPA and “Clutch” numbers, supporting my recollection of all the big and morale-building hits he’s had this year
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by SnowLeopard on Sep 11, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d be ok with Nate starting RF next year if he has a good spring. I just wish he’d take a damn walk.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
When he’s playing…
When he isn’t striking out…
When other teams don’t IBB him…
When he’s healthy…..
meh
He’s not worth the Zito-esque contract he’ll want.
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the only valid criticism on your list is
“when he’s playing”.
I agree that’s a big concern, but there’s no way he’s getting a Zito-esque contract. I’d be amazed if a team signed him for longer than 3 years guaranteed.
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His agent is Scott Boras.
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TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
he can ask for a 20 year contract if he wants
I’ll still be surprised if a team gives him more than 3 years guaranteed. Do you honestly think a team will guarantee him through his age 40 season?
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Well hopefully Sabean and Co will have learned their lesson… but pffft… It doesn’t matter what anybody else does. The Giants have been known to do silly things in contract negotiations. Hopefully that was all Neukom’s doing and it won’t happen again.
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get a shortstop and then sign a guy like cuddyer to play right
much better money spent then 3/45 on beltran
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the SS FA field is
Hardy, Reyes and Rollins, then a whole lotta nothing.
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also
Cuddyer’s defense is, well, let’s just say if you don’t like Beltran’s D, you’re not gonna be a happy camper.
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How's Willingham's?
And is he likely to be available?
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about the same as cuddyer's
neither of them are dunn-esque, or even burrelesque. The main thrust of my defense comment was that Beltran’s D is better than (general) you think.
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Ha . . .
He said burrelesque.
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by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
willingham
looked atrocious when I’ve watched him. Dunntacular.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm just thinking
That the money that it will take to resign Beltran can be spent on more than one player that can make a difference is all
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by Falconer88 on Sep 11, 2011 10:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
bingo.
this team has so many holes that you can’t blow your wad all in one place. but I’d blow it all on Reyes or Rollins+ a LF with power
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by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
This
This is what I’d do personally
1. Rollins SS
2. Sanchez /Keppinger 2B
3. Sandoval 3B
4. Posey C
5. Cuddyer LF
6. Belt RF
7. Huff 1B
8. Torres CF
Two extra outfielders: Nate and maybe a guy like Christian. Backup catcher either Stewart or if you could get Ramon hernandez. Of course Keppinger and Fontenot are backup infields
Again I only use rollins because I don’t like a long term deal for Reyes and I think that you could get Rollins for two to three years. And this is the lineup I proposed because huff is gonna get every chance next year. If I knew he had a short leash I’d but belt at first and Nate in right.
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by Falconer88 on Sep 11, 2011 11:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
assuming Posey can catch, that’s exactly what I’d do too. Cuddyer is a good target- he could be had on a 2 year deal, and Rollins maybe a 3 year deal?
swap Nate for RF and put Belt at 1B though. I have a feeling Huff will lose his job by early May.
Ramon Hernandez would be a great C target, but if they didn’t want Torrealba b/c of the $3, they won’t sign Hernandez.
I’d also go after Crisp, and if he can be had, then I’d trade Torres.
one more thought, Sanchez is 2x the player Keppinger (poor range, empty average) is. so if you’re just thinking of Kepp playing 1 in 4 days for Freddy, that’s fine.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You for GM!!!
Only if I can be assistant GM lol
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by Falconer88 on Sep 11, 2011 11:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I only see Keppinger starting around two games a week
He is still very useful against LHP. But yeah Sanchez has him beat by a mile defensively
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by Falconer88 on Sep 11, 2011 11:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
"This team has so many holes"
Errr, no. SS and corner OF. Beltran solves one problem and improves the offense to the point where you can afford Crawford at SS and hope Torres bounces back.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
You're assuming that you get Carlos Beltran on an affordable deal
I doubt that will happen with boras so get an upgrade at short and an upgrade at corner OF that is more affordable than the deal that Beltran wants plus I don’t think he wants to okay here
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by Falconer88 on Sep 12, 2011 9:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
*play here
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by Falconer88 on Sep 12, 2011 9:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hardy got extended by the O's.
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even better.
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Hardy was signed to a two year ext so no on that
Maybe Rollins on a two year deal. I would like Reyes but that will take six years so which I don’t like
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by Falconer88 on Sep 11, 2011 10:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m really scared the Giants will sign a certain Milwaukee Brewers shortstop that could be a free agent if his option isn’t picked up. He seems to be the Giants type of player.
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I don’t think so.
Sabean surely understands just how serious this is. The future of Cain and Timmeh with the org hinge on how he builds the 2012 offense.
Just get a real SS and build the rest with 2 year deals as a bridge until Brown, Panik, etc are ready.
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by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
His option almost certainly won’t be picked up. That leaves him prime pickings for Sabean.
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He will also be 30.
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Perfect fit for the Giants. I could hear it now from Renel “Batting 7th and playing shortstop, number 7, Yuniesky Betancourt!!!!!!!!!”
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nah
he’s got 5 or 6 more years. He’ll join the team on a minor league deal sometime, like Deivi Cruz.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed that he should be in left
But seriously, what you’re saying is why it’s not a good idea to just go by what you see. People’s eyes suck.
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Are you talking to me?
I don’t hate him, trust me I want him back as long as it isn’t a burden of a contract but he has looked very slow in right field and that doesn’t look like it will get better
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by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops my bad
Had a little bit of trouble following the sub thread
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by Falconer88 on Sep 11, 2011 10:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The up button is your friend. Learn it, use it, love it.
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Honestly I don't get why he wanted to play right in att park
Just with all that space in triples alley and all the weird bounces off of all the different materials that make up the wall I would ask to play left the first day I was there. Plus Nate is the best when it comes to RF at att.
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by Falconer88 on Sep 11, 2011 11:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
#shellfishbeltran
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by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Still looking for complaints about him after the last meaningful series of the year, when he put the team on his back. He’s easy pickings after a bad weekend.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
The biggest problem with this team is all of these guys we have hitting .311 with patience and power
If we just got rid of them, we’d be in the clear.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
especially
if they get some good bunters and hit and run specialists so they can score an early run most games. That really puts the pressure on the other team. I read that somewhere.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re forgetting they’d also have to get rid of any pitchers that don’t pick runners off at first.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, the Giants won, the Niners won, and I have two drunken chickens in the BBQ right now getting more and more delicious by the minute. I was expecting today to suck a lot more.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2011 6:14 PM PDT reply actions
ROLL TIDE
Lots of Alabama fans up here yesterday. They were quite annoying.
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I lived in Tuscaloosa for more than two years. You don’t have to convince me.
What were they doing in the Land of Lincoln?
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At Penn State for a collaboration at the moment. There was serious drunkenness even at 10 a.m. for a 3:30 kickoff. And of course, all the rural PA hicks came out of the woodwork as well.
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Lord have mercy on your soul. Let me apologize for the native Alabamians in the group, but not the others.
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It was ok. The only real ramification was that I ended up staying in a professor’s vacant house for a couple of days because I wasn’t going to be able to book a hotel room over the weekend. That and the parking situation, but both were manageable.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
anyone following the SJ playoff?
Tommy Joseph and Jarrett Parker homered, Gary Brown had a double so far (4th).
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
I'm rooting for Huff
to be a veteran presence in the clubhouse next year (not kidding) and I have hope he can be an effective pinch hitter. Sadly, he will not discover this role until August 15, 2012.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
I’m hoping several of the players put a little more into their off season regimes this time around. Huff has looked out of shape and Torres didn’t play winter ball…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Sabean dropped hints in spring training that not all of the vets showed up in shape and probably enjoyed the Series win too much and a lot of people suspected it was aimed at Huff.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 11, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
/rolls over to second
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2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible,magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
"Sabean dropped hints . . . ."
And Bochy slapped Belt recently via a comment on Pill.
Is there really anyone in the known universe (outside the Bay Area “press”) who pays attention to what these creatures say?
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
They made comments about Lincecum’s conditioning last year and Timmy said they were right and got into better shape. Just because Sabean trades for washed up vets and Bochy makes crappy lineups doesn’t mean they’re wrong about everything.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Dude throws cement blocks while barefoot
/Belt benched
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
argh reply fail
haven’t had one in awhile, I guess I was due
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
It always happens at the bottom of threads. One time I had a reply window open, the thread jumped and somehow I ended up typing in the new comment box.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Marc Sanchez sucks
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
No he doesn't
He’s got Ware up his ass every time he drops back. With time, he puts the ball right where it should be.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Mark Sanchez
Overrated QB or the most overrated QB?
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
How can he be overrated if he’s appeared in GQ twice? Can Peyton Manning say that? I think not
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 11, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably most overrated
Not terrible but not anywhere close to being elite yet
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Sanchez is starting his third year of professional football after just one year of college football. He gets better every week. He still makes the occasional huge mistake, but there are QB’s in the league ten years who do that. In two years he will be a top 5 QB. LOL to all you guys who criticize Sabean and Bochy showing no patience with a young player! It’s probably because he doesn’t play for your team.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
In two years he will be a top 5 QB.
I’ll take the under on that bet. Right now he’s a testament to what a quarterback can do with a great team and a hell of a lot of rope.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
since everyone else is sharing their 2¢ about Beltran...
here’s my humble opinion :)
doesn’t really matter if he has one good game, a string of good games or if he was on fire from day one of putting on the Giants uniform-if no one else on the team is having a good game it really doesn’t matter. IMHO, all you have to do is look back upon the Bonds era and realize that one player cannot carry a whole team, let alone take them to the post-season. Last year worked because every player did their part, and yes, THE INJURIES, but if they were expecting the Beltran pick up to solve all their offensive woes, then joke’s on them.
There’s plenty of fail blame to go around, I don’t think it’s entirely fair to dump it all on the rental, when there’s so much wrong going on in-house. Don’t get me wrong, he’s not free and clear from blame, I’m sure he’s plenty disappointed his hope for post-season playtime has been so brutally dashed making it difficult to motivate; however, I say spread the distain around, give everyone an equal share.
/steps down from soapbox, slips and falls on playoff hopes
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by SoCalGgal on Sep 11, 2011 6:30 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
wow, really?!
/is suspicious
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He is hiding in your purse
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 11, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
hope he likes Altoids!
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I LOVE Altoids!
/jumps into purse
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
WOOO!!
Party in SoCalGgal’s purse!!
/hops in
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 11, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
/grabs crotch
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
/cracks open a bottle of water, passes to TL2
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Got any chocolate in there?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
too hot, it’ll get all melty!
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That could be fun too…
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
YAY!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 11, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
of course! Giant’s won today, we partyin’!
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It’s a Purse Party!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
LOL
I keep thinking there’s a TWSS lurking just around the corner in this subthread… (<<) (>>)
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Knowing you, of course there is.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 11, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
eek! my emoticons are missing their noses…making them look more like ‘zomg bewbs’ than faces looking around suspiciously
/hands you preemptive TWSD card
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Can I hang onto this, like a Get Out of Jail Free card? Play it at some future date?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 11, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
good thing I carry a big purse!
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And a constant smile!
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
"We're gonna need a bigger purse."
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
will a tote bag work?
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/links arms with L2 and walks down the avenue.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
This conjures a mental image of all of us partying down inside a giant, mechanized purse, a la the Oscar Meyer weinermobile. The MCC Party Purse turns up everywhere, even at away games, and becomes a beloved part of Giants culture.
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by TheLetter2 on Sep 11, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is an incredibly reasonable opinion. It’ll be interesting to see which hotheads rip into it.
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BOO THIS OPINION!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Not Beltran's Fault...
That he can’t carry a team by himself. But he’s getting old, got a gimpy knee, and can’t cover enough ground in right field at AT&T. Needless to say, he’s not having fun in the City, and will probably want to play elsewhere next year. Giants should not pay big bucks to keep him.
fred71510
in some ways, I feel bad for him. He gets traded across the country but to the World Champs who were in a playoff race and a bat or two away from being serious contenders in the playoffs and the moment he starts playing, the bottom falls out and he’s being blamed for it. Probably wishes the trade didn’t happen as much as everyone else does
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 11, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably. But he’s not helping things by not charging soft liners to right (I suspect his knees aren’t thanking him for standing in the cold wind tunnel next to McCovey Cove). As for the folks defending his hitting, I’d point out that he has a whole 10 RBIs since he joined the Giants (two of which came on HRs). His 2B production and walk rate has fallen off of a cliff and his SO/BB ratio is significantly higher than his time with the Mets. Staring at the Baseball Reference stats is pretty sobering.
He’s hitting above career average but with a lower OBP. He’s really not getting it done with runners in scoring position. Of course you’re going to see some changes in power numbers at AT&T versus Citi Field but he’s definitely not 100%.
Of course it’s not fair to pile all of the Giants woes on him but he wasn’t free by any stretch of the imagination and his impact on games hasn’t exactly been a substantial upgrade over what he cost us. C’est la vie.
"Blame" isn't, or shouldn't be, the issue.
The issue is that for a man who is getting close to (or may be at) the age where decline begins to become a real factor (typically 35 or so), and who already clearly can’t play well in the field, to offer the sort of contract, in terms both of dollars and length, it would probably take to sign him would be a great waste of resources. The same money, or close to it, could probably snare an at least somewhat younger and litttle worse bat with a glove also no worse.
That he looks like someone who is functioning on abaility alone, and who doesn’t really care, is true; but whether that look reflects reality or not is perhaps an interesting around-the-hot-stove question, but not one really relevant to what should be the hard facts guiding decisions.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Surprised this isn't green
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
No green for owlcroft until he gives us a name. A NAME!!
/pounds table like child V v V v
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by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
/blushes & humbly curtsies at the greening (1st of the year!)
it is with a soul full of gratitude to the ever resilient McCoven, I bid you all a most pleasant evening, for I’m off to rest my weary head
:) pleasant dreams
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I think Beltran is free and clear from blame.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Apparently, the movie “Bucky Larson” is a flop. It made only $1.5 million over the weekend and didn’t finish in the top 10.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
My only knowledge of that movie is one viewing of a completely sophomoric trailer. Sealed my opinion immediately.
After I saw the trailer I was shocked that it was a movie, and that they were planning to actually put it in theaters. It looked really, really terrible.
by shaggingflyballs on Sep 12, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
geeez, I’d like to make $1.5 million in a weekend.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Please sir, kindly give me $10000 so that I may access millions in my bank account in Nigeria.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Go ahead and laugh, but I'm about to be RICH!
I don’t know how he got my email addy, but the rich nephew of a deposed monarch in, uh, I forget which country but it doesn’t matter, has contacted me about helping him get his fortune out of the country.
I’ve sent the check and any day now I’ll be uber-wealthy. One thing for sure, we’re all going to have a huge party at Chili’s and I’ll pick up the tab, including the pitchers of Coor’s light.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah well....
Publisher’s Clearinghouse says that I may have ALREADY WON!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Wow! Can you believe our amazing simultaneous luck!?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You were spared the awful commercials.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I saw Contagion yesterday
Kind of boring.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
The original title of that movie was supposedly Hollywood Wastes As Much Talent As Possible
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Weird
Bad movies like that seem to do well these days.
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro (insert unnecessary scribbles)
"Stupid dog, you make me look bad!" -Eustace Bagg
by greekfro on Sep 11, 2011 6:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The movie seemed to be aimed toward kids your age to around Graham’s age.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
me thinks this was a movie made by a group of friends, who got totally drunk (or high) one night and decided “Hey! We should distribute this to theaters so everyone can laugh THIS hard!” when what really should have happened is that it should have been burned on DVD for their own personal viewing instead.
The folks at Happy Madison usually have a stinker every 5 years or so…
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It is from Adam Sandler’s company.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Most Adam Sandler movies make me sick.“Look, he got hit in the balls! Then he made a funny face!”
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro (insert unnecessary scribbles)
"Stupid dog, you make me look bad!" -Eustace Bagg
by greekfro on Sep 11, 2011 7:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible,magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Football in the Groin!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
On the other hand . . .
there are Alan Ladd movies. He was short.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The only one I enjoyed was Happy Gilmore. I was in second grade mind you.
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro (insert unnecessary scribbles)
"Stupid dog, you make me look bad!" -Eustace Bagg
by greekfro on Sep 11, 2011 7:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m with you. I was stunned by a story last week on ATC about all the kids — a whole generation — who are too young to remember 9/11. I could hardly believe my ears.
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I was in 3rd grade.
But I remember watching it happen in the morning before I went to school.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
How is what possible?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That you’re that young. I understand I’m a relative newcomer in terms of defining news events, but September 11 seems like it just happened, and now there’s this whole group coming up that either doesn’t remember it or was extremely young when it happened. It’s scary.
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my students this year were 1 year old in 2001
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
i had a moment the other day
one of the girls in my class was like “I was born in 2000!” and I was like “NO YOU WEREN’T” and then I realized she was telling the truth.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
LOL
I still get weirded out when someone I know was born in the 80s!
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There are a couple of MLB players born in the 1990s.
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"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I have co-workers who weren't even born yet when the original Sonic the Hedgehog came out!
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 11, 2011 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
This thread is making me feel particulary ancient.
By a show of hands, who actually had a black and white TV with a rabbit ear antenna operational in their house?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
o/
Although, in fairness, it got replaced with a color set after my two-year-old self pulled it down trying to adjust the rabbit ears one Saturday morning.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Sep 11, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That was in the fancy houses my friends lived in, not mine.
Really.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
we had a small rabbit earred Zenith (I think) color tv that mom would put in our rooms when we were sick, had a handle for easy carrying LOL and 2 dials, one said 2-13 and the other was for “tuning in” higher channels like 20, 36 and 44 :D
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I remember when we got our first RCA (the most trusted name in electronics) color TV
All the neighbors came over to have a look. The thing was a monster and had a handy drawer that would slide out and change the tubes.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish that were older
Then I could’ve seen the Dead
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro (insert unnecessary scribbles)
"Stupid dog, you make me look bad!" -Eustace Bagg
by greekfro on Sep 11, 2011 7:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
trust me…I know (u.u)
when Richie retired, I was officially older than the entire team (not counting coaches) ::sigh::
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We’re only 9-10 years away from the 1st 21st century born player to play in the big leagues.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Wut
International signing I assume?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Mexican League, so only AAA in a loose sense
Roberto Osuna. Purchased by the Blue Jays a few weeks ago.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Sort of like the 15 year old enlistments in WWI or II.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Trout!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
He’s the first major leaguers younger than I am.
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 11, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like a long time ago for me.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like a long time ago to me too. You will notice though that as you get older time seems to go by faster.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
yeah sometimes… right now faster’d be good.
Get the job, housing, family situations all settled.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
oh hey! How’d the interview go? :)
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Hehe, thanks for asking….
This first interview 2 weeks ago was horrible. [Teaching bachelor degree extension courses] Mostly because it started out with them saying the equivalent of “this position is 8 hours a week at night, in ….East Palo Alto.”
The 2nd interview I went to on Friday was MUCH better but they are interviewing like 25 people for 2 positions so…. I dunno bout that one.
It’s an SLPA position and my experience in that field is limited to my internship work.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
eek! at night-pass! glad the one on Friday went well, hope they scoop you up! BTW, what’s SLPA stand for? so many education acronyms, so little time…. :)
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speech language pathology assistant. You get to help the speech teachers. I just got certified for that this spring and would kinda like to get a job doing that.
If I don’t find anything by October, I’ll sub.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
aaaahhh! got it! That sounds great, how soon will you know?
AT&T Park, Home of the WS Champion SF Giants, and Disneyland-so much MAGIC inside!
They are interviewing like 10 more people on Monday… so sometime after that.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Look at it this way: it either means we've done a better job rebuilding than you realize, or that the human spirit adapts better than you think.
Win/win, right?
As a junior high teacher, I can quickly verify that some of the negative labels being assigned to this coming generation apply painfully often: narcissistic, dominated by their own technology, lazy, etc.
But not a single one of them has led me to believe that 9/11 has screwed them up. This tells me that we have still been able to provide a relatively safe, healthy environment for the majority of the kids in the generation following 9/11, which says quite a bit about our society and its reactions to those events. And while they might marvel at scenes from older movies where there are romantic encounters at airline gates, they don’t seem especially paranoid or worried that this terrible catastrophe could strike again, even though repercussions have been rippling out for their whole lives.
This is a huge credit to their generation that I don’t ever hear sung. And it should be.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
If it makes you feel any better
I still have my WTC security card for my office there.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions
nope
that doesn’t really do much for me. I still think the skyline looks weird when I look south from the Village.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions
On my breaks, I used to sit on the Sphere fountain and people watch. At times, it was so entertaining that I would be late going back to work.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
you are a lot younger than I thought you were.
by shaggingflyballs on Sep 12, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
good grief, you could have been one of my students!!! (O_O)
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Bow wow chick-a wow wow
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Yep. 4th grade, I think.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I was only five
I remember it though it’s a wee bit foggy and I didn’t really know what was happening.
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro (insert unnecessary scribbles)
"Stupid dog, you make me look bad!" -Eustace Bagg
by greekfro on Sep 11, 2011 7:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I was in third grade, and we just watched TV in class all day long. Woke up, watched TV, went to school, watched TV, came home, watched TV.
In retrospect, I’m surprised my parents let me go to school that day.
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 11, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I was in third grade too. We actually moved the day of the funeral 11/25/63, so the date is forever etched in my mind. Nobody mentioned the most incredible thing of all, which was watching Oswald being transferred on TV and Jack Ruby stepped out of the crowd and shot him dead. Great security back in those days! Ruby was a hero for a few days, before more information started coming out.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Wait
we’re talking about 9/11 here, right? Or did I miss something?
Also, I was in sixth grade in 2001, and have no idea why I wrote that I was in third grade.
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 12, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Compulsive liar?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I know it’s not a Happy Madison flik but I really liked him in Punch Drunk Love
But I thought 50 FIrst Dates & Big Daddy were also good, mostly cuz it’s not the usual over-the-top stuff from him
AT&T Park, Home of the WS Champion SF Giants, and Disneyland-so much MAGIC inside!
The universality of the reviews for this movie are convincing me I was wrong to say away.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I went to the game today. I’ll type up my observations in a sec.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Cool, were you the one dreading to go?
I remember somebody was, but I was too lazy to try and look that up.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Yes, I was worried that I would lose 6 hours of my life for something pointless and annoying, like getting shut out by Dana Eveland. Luckily, I only lost 8 hours to something mildly annoying but fairly fun.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
How can you not look forward to going to the ballpark on a beautiful day???
#firstworldproblems
by shaggingflyballs on Sep 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
The sixth inning was seemingly a competition for “Worst Manager Ever,” and the final result was inconclusive, since every single bad decision went unpunished by the baseball gods.
1. Bochy double switched Belt out. There are SO many things wrong with that. First, why double switch at all? Mota wasn’t going to pitch a second inning anyway. And, if Mr. Bochy really HAD to double switch, why couldn’t he have taken Huff out and let the far superior defender in Belt stay in the game? Ugh…. Anyway, Bochy brought Torres in on the double switch, leading to….
2. Bochy had Torres bunt after Kuo had walked the first two hitters in the inning. WHY? You go through all the trouble to double switch him into the game, then waste his out in the middle of a rally? WTF. Mattingly wasn’t about to be overshadowed, though….
3. Mattingly brings the lefty in to face Beltran, Sandoval, Huff, and a PH. Mattingly’s logic was somewhat sound; he wanted to pitch to either Sandoval or Beltran and then walk the other. He could have easily done that with the righty he had out there, though, since both hitters would always hold the platoon advantage, so it was a pointless move at best.
4. Mattingly brings the infield in against Beltran with one out and runners on second and third. OK, why on Earth would you do that? Beltran is a good enough hitter already, especially against lefties, and bringing the infield in makes him even more difficult to get out.
5. Bochy then pinch hits DeRosa (in Belt’s spot). That really wasn’t a bad decision, but I’m really just bitching about #1.
Also, no one around me booed Beltran, so there’s that.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
by garbanzo24 on Sep 11, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
You know what bugs me… besides silly double switches for the sake of double switches?
Putting in a new pitcher…. and THEN intentionally walking the batter.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Ooooohhhh…..I hate that one. Used to see that a lot when Barry was playing
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 11, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
the ironic thing about the double switch is there was a lot of bitching in last night’s post-game thread that Bochy didn’t double-switch enough and that’s why pitchers were pitching for one or two pitches too many. Guess everyone got what they wanted
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 11, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn’t in last night’s PGT for anything but a peek, but I probably wouldn’t have been on the pro-double-switch side.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
It was Friday’s and about how he sometimes judges when and when not to take out a pitcher based on the pitcher’s spot in the lineup and how if you do a double-switch, you don’t have to worry about it.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 11, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
A big league manager should have enough brain capacity to be able to think of pinch hitters and bullpen arms at the same time. If the pitcher isn’t going to pitch multiple innings, then a double switch is close to pointless.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Well, yeah, ideally that would be what you’d expect from a manager
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 11, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Double switch was plausible to me
Mota was about to pitch the 6th, and I thought it was reasonable to plan on getting 2 innings from him. They had to put together 4 innings somehow.
Giants baseball: Together We're Crippled
Well, it was nice that he removed Bum early.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
They . . .
. . . may not punish at once, but they do not forget. Their mills grind slow but exceeding fine.

Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
the Torres bunt
drove me bananas as well. The double-switching by the Giants didn’t register much, they think it’s pre-spring training. I don’t know what the hell Mattingly was doing with all the intentional walks in a game they were trailing.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Consolation Prize for lost 2011 season
Madbum finishes with a winning record, as does Cain, Lincecum, and Vogey
It looks like Madbum has learned how to avoid the big inning… as he did today, yeah, breakout year in 2012.
Battle for #5 in rotation. Surkamp? Sanchez? Anyone? Pitching is set for next year, if they figure out what to do with Zito.
How about some AB’s for Belt for crying out loud?
fred71510
He was helped today in avoiding the big inning by the fact that Kuroda was the batter with one out and the bases loaded.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Good day for Bay Area sports
Giants blow out the Dodgers
Niners beat the Seahawks pretty good
Baby Sharks blow out the baby Flames
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
The baby Sharks did awesome. And yes, good day for the Bay
UP THE PUCKS!
"This is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle
by TheSoundOfHockey on Sep 11, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Mat Moore called up
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 6:46 PM PDT reply actions
exciting
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I know I’m excited.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Where the fuck to the Rays find these pitchers?!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
do*
Ugh.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Another pitcher with missing T’s in their first name…
I don’t trust him.
"If you wanna rock 'n' roll, I got the guitar."
Two OTs
Today I was wondering about Vladimir Guerrero and the Hall of Fame. Your thoughts?
Also, today, I had the thought that if I was putting together a rotation for 2012, I would choose Scott Barnes over Zach Wheeler, Eric Surkamp, or Tim Alderson, and probably over Francisco Liriano also.
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
He seems to me to be the only one of those five who looks from their Baseball Ref page to be MLB-ready and healthy. And, 3 K/BB.
Don’t got nuttin more scientific/precise (about his arm slot, age-for-league, finishing-pitch-arsenal, etc. :) )
If it was for 2014, I’d pick Surkamp or Wheeler.
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
If Liriano was healthy, he would be my choice
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 11, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That
is the big if
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
definite yes on Vlad
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Sure, but you're forgetting all the stuff we got from Garko
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
LOL
A fruit basket that Christmas should count for something. But I insist on putting the herpes in the negative column …
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Where’s mymclife?
I recognize Joe and Clowie… I’m assuming the tall one is Burnsie….
http://yfrog.com/z/nwj7wugj
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Yeah
From left to right: Thornton, Clowe, Demers, Burns.
It’s a testament to how tall those guys are that Demers is by far the shortest and still measures 6’1".
Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
I was there at the game today...
fun win, but a horribly slow game.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
It was slow on TV too. I actually fell asleep in the 8th, and woke up to a voice saying GO! GO! GO!
I think it was Miller.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I slept from the 3rd inning to the 6th.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I missed today’s game. I didn’t even watch it at home.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Did you casually think that a game might be going on?
Did you wonder if we were talking about you in your absence?
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Sep 11, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering if you were going to be there...
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Sep 11, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, you could say hello next season. I plan to renew and I know today was your last game for this season.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I will be there next season as well. I ain’t giving up my tickets.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Sep 12, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously.
The last game I went to, it took 5.5 hours from my house and back. Today, it took 8.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
You're cost per hour was significantly less today. Huge win!
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That's one way to look at it. Optimism!
Meanwhile, your post to unnecessary apostrophe ratio is definitely high. :D
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
I'm banking that one for the next time I miss one in a post. Pay it forward.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s why we haven’t been going. It takes ~2.5 hours [at least] driving to get there and usually 3-4 on the way back.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
and Tuesday
guaranteed with the series split, back in SJ on Wednesday night.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 11, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
oops
wrong place.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 11, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya..we got to SF at 11:30 and had two beers...
then we left the game during the 7th at around 4 because I needed to get home and grade.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Sep 11, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The kind of crazy I could get behind
Sign pujols and then trade belt in a package for hanley ramirez. You know, since you mentioned fantasy and since fantasy is so much more fun than pesky reality.
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
by thehavenot on Sep 11, 2011 7:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wow. That would take the team payroll to what, $160 million at least? I don’t see it happening.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
But we'd have an awesome team!
Never mind, baseball gods. I don't love you any more. You've gone back to hating the Giants
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series! ...ormaybe a game or two.
by thehavenot on Sep 11, 2011 7:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Pujols has “big, long, and expensive contract that he spends most of the time on the DL for” written all over him
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Sep 11, 2011 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
What, exactly, in Pujols’s history makes you think he’ll spend most of his time on the DL? Even if he gets an 8 year contract, and spends 2/3 of his time on the DL after his 36th bday, he’ll probably have spent less than half the contract on the DL.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Awesome on paper
does not always translate to awesome between the chalk.
(and “expensive but awesome” on paper sometimes translates to just “expensive” IRL)
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
by SnowLeopard on Sep 11, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
OH YAH
MinorLeagueBlog Top Prospect Alert
#SFGiants Tommy Joseph has gone yard twice and Jarrett Parker has added a Home Run as San Jose leads #Athletics Stockton 9-0 in the 7th
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Also a double for ToJo
Feed the Panda some bamboo
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Sep 11, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
2! Just got back from the game, and I’ll tell you, games like this from Tommy make me thing, “hmm, maybe putting Posey at first or third wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.”
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 11, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they said
16 total bases for TJ tonight!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 11, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, one of his doubles hit high off the wall too. He didn’t miss it by much.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 11, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
what’s the deal with Joseph? Is he looking legit?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, wow he’s only 20 yrs old
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
this
he’s just a kid. And he’s looked fine at C this year, at least when I’ve seen him, and he can mash. Should be another playoff year for Richmond next year.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he was doing a fine job blocking balls last night, and made a great throw to third to get a runner who had second thoughts about scoring. He looks like he can get a little stabby while receiving at times, but yeah, he’s only 20. I’m excited about him.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 12, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Will they be playing in Stockton? Or did we miss that already?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Oh…. hmmm tomorrow nite. Nevermind.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
here's where the reply goes
Stockton tomorrow and Tuesday and back to SJ on Wednesday if necessary.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 11, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah I saw that on the Ports website.
How many rounds are the minor league playoffs? (that I didn’t see on the website)
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
there's another
5 game for the Cal League, the winner of the north vs. the winner of the south playoff (Rancho Cucamonga vs. Lake Elsinore). They have the Sat-Mon games listed on the SJ website as home games; I don’t know if that changes depending on whether LE or RC wins the South.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 11, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
thanks
I figured that’s why they had home and away listed for the games, but LE and RC don’t even have the postseason games listed on their schedules so I didn’t know for sure.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions
sweet
SJ evens it up with 13-1 win!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 11, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that was interesting, they both caught that ball.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
OT: Serena Williams: Huge POS or Biggest POS ever?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
No, Piece Of Shit.
She once again couldn’t keep her vile and classless mouth shut on the court. I hope she gets banned from the US Open forever.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Sep 11, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
She's bad...not classy...
My adopted son, Brandon Crawford. Dude hits grand slams and plays defense.
I can't believe she got away with that shit.
I hope she is fined at the very least. What ever happened to taking points from players who mouth off at umpires?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Wow.
Now I see why my mother in law is so into tennis all of a sudden. She can’t get enough of the Open.
NorCal passion trapped in SoCal pain...
I wanna rage.
Geez
What did she say?
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro (insert unnecessary scribbles)
"Stupid dog, you make me look bad!" -Eustace Bagg
by greekfro on Sep 11, 2011 9:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
...
“A code violation because I expressed who I am? We’re in America last I checked. Am I gonna get violated for a water? Really, don’t even look at me. I promise you, don’t look at me because I am not the one. Don’t look my way.” […]
“If you ever see me walking down the hall, walk the other way. Because you’re out of control. Totally out of control. You’re a hater, you’re unattractive inside. Who would do such a thing? And I never complain. Wow.”
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Squirrel: Heath Hembree
And I never complain.
This made me laugh. That match was the last one in a 2 year probation for…complaining. LOL
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 12, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Mark Sanchez
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Wait till the end of the game
LOL Tony Romo
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
needs more blackfish
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
“Put this in the fire.”- Jaime
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 11, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Snarky KLaw is snarky
keithlaw keithlaw
Get smarter friends. RT @RealStephenMar: @keithlaw What can I do to convince my stubborn friends that OBP > AVG? They wont listen to me
1 minute ago
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible,magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
No. I was just arguing with my friend who was convinced wRC+ was a stupid stat because it means nothing to 95% of people.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
lol.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
The wRC never comes in handy cuz its a flat out dumb stat. If somebody is hitting 310. with 25 hrs and 107 rbi’s then I dont give a shit whether his wRC is 12 or 350. Has anyone ever said ted williams, ty cobb, or barry bonds are the greatest hitters of all time cuz of there wRC. The answer is no cuz what really matters in the end is avg, Hrs, Rbis, Hits, and sometimes obp. Sorry but the wRC doesnt mean shit to 95% of baseball players, managers, or fans
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
There were so many different angles I could have taken.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason I couldn't find All-Time wRC+ numbers
Actually by OPS+ (also park and league adjusted) Williams, Cobb, and Bonds are ranked 2nd, 10th, and 3rd, respectively, of All-Time. So yes, someone has.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Ruth – 1
Williams – 2
Bonds – 3
Gehrig – 4
Hornsby, Mantle, Cobb – t5
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Also
if Bonds doesn’t make the HOF b/c of roids, 3 of the top 8 hitters in MLB history by wRC+ will be excluded from the hall.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Bonds and Jackson - who's the third?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
'cause I see the top 8 as
Ruth 197
Williams 189
Bonds 175
Gehrig 174
Hornsby 171
Mantle 171
Cobb 171
Pujols 167
Jackson 166
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
well there's 9 guys there
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I'm assuming
Pujols will drop below Jackson by the time his career’s done. I suppose it’s possible he doesn’t, but still, 1/3 of the top 9 is pretty shameful imo.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I have to missing something. I get Bonds and Jackson – who is the third guy not in the Hall you are talking about?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
If you mean Pujols
he’s not there yet, but calling it shameful he’s not in the Hall before he’s even retired seems a bit premature. He’s a shoe-in for it as soon as his career is over.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I confused Williams and Rose
cuz I R DUM
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I mean it's late and I'm tired...
yeah… that’s the ticket…
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
lol
that might be the first time Ted Williams was ever confused for Pete Rose.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I’ll bet that Rose could pull a mean Immelmann.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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by SnowLeopard on Sep 11, 2011 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
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Ow.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Right?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes OBP?
I mean, it either matters or it doesn’t, right? How can it matter some of the time when talking about a career?
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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If Brett Pill has a lot of it or not.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like when "y" is a vowel.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Greek?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions
A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes OBP
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
FUMBLE FINGERS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
BB is now being streamed instantly on Netflix and I’m stoked. I just started watching.
UP THE PUCKS!
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by TheSoundOfHockey on Sep 11, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
My hubby is about to be unemployed
I have to get him watching it.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
Is he thinking of getting into the meth biz?
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by Murray, Present on Sep 11, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
F to the Yeah.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Shit just got real. They’ve got a lot of ground to cover in the last 4 episodes.
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 11, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
How could you know, tho, where it’s going? Mexico could be over in half an ep (rememer the cousins?)
I’m really gonna miss Walt & Jesse conversations if their relationship is irreparrably harmed. Aaron Paul & Bryan Cranston in a room together is what makes this show so great.
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
LOL Cowboys meltdown
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I’m loving it
UP THE PUCKS!
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by TheSoundOfHockey on Sep 11, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
blocked punts are pretty exciting.
…and I hate the Cowboys.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
I’m not a fan of the Jets either, but I definitely hate the Cowboys more. Almost everyone on my mom’s side of the family are Cowboys fans and it’s annoying.
UP THE PUCKS!
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by TheSoundOfHockey on Sep 11, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I worked with a guy who’s a big Jets fan. I don’t really care that much about the Jets, but I know that guy needs some happiness in his life so yay Jets.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Romo says “whoooooops”
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Shift-A
Today is mrs owlcroft’s birthday, so just this one token post.
Quite recently, maybe just yesterday, I wrote that one likely reason for the Giants’ offense all, to a man, having below-career seasons (though Pablo may now be up to par) was that each started trying far too hard right after l’affaire Posey, each thereby digging himself into a hole that trying to get out of only made worse yet.
I wonder if today wasn’t some modest evidence for that view. Now that the team is clearly out of it, the pressure is off, and guys can more or less revert to who they are and have always been before this lost year. Huff’s post-game interview certainly suggested as much, though (curiously) players themselves are often not the best source of accurate information on why they’re doing poorly or well.
Anyway, the game was a nice birthday present for the lady: thank you Giants.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you all --
it was a very nice day and the game was definitely a high point!
by mrs. owlcroft on Sep 11, 2011 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This is some prime amateur psychology.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
by GiantPain on Sep 12, 2011 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OT
This song is pretty damn amazing. It goes out to my Pokenerds on MCC, but it’s also cool because the guy shot the vid in SF and reps for the Giants.
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by BaronVonCurrentEvents on Sep 11, 2011 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
WORLD SERIES TRUTH MOVEMENT. COM. IF AARON ROWAND WAS ON THE TEAM HOW DID THEY WIN? WHAT IS OBAMA HIDING?
/schmohog "disappears"
HE KNEW TOO MUCH
Rally Jerry!
Greekfro (insert unnecessary scribbles)
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by greekfro on Sep 11, 2011 9:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL METS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
i wonder if his teammates call him ‘combin’
by shaggingflyballs on Sep 12, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Should I care the Giants won?
I think they should tank the rest of the way with rooks and get a a higher draft pick. Maybe get something good for the future as I’m ready to stick a fork into this season.
On the other hand, how about that Ted Ginn Jr? Go 9’ers!
How about Sharks fans?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Playing young guys = tanking.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 11, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
O hey Bruce
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
At least in a few cases, the best team involves some of the rooks playing.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
I mean, they could certainly tank the rest of the way with Ford, Burriss, Christian, and probably Pill, but I don’t think it would reveal anything valuable.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions
On my way back from the SJ Giants game. I’m turning into quite the Tommy Joseph fangirl.
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He wouldn’t have to work hard to outdreamy Hector Sanchez.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
He shot my shins off!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
It’s from King of the Hill
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
for some reason milb splits isn’t showing me his position. he’s a catcher?
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by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
yes’m.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Panik, Brown and Joseph, along with Buster, Pablo and Belt make me think in 2014 this could be a pretty good offense. Of course 4 of them are unproven young players, but still… a guy can dream.
all they need to do is find a way to have a good offense for 2012-2013.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
They might give Tommy Joseph a look next year. He does look 45 so Bochy might think he’s an old rookie like Christian.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
so just have Sabean lie about his age to Bork? that sounds like it could totally work, too.
oh, and Nate in RF. that’s 7 young position players.
all we’d need is a legit SS since Panik may end up at 2B, rest of the starting team would be under 27 with under 30 starting pitchers to boot
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Only if Bochy and Sabean are gone
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
dammit, you snapped me out of my dream :)
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't get too optimistic about prospects
With Schmidt, Foppert, Ainsworth and Williams, the Giants should have had one of the best rotations in baseball in the middle of last decade.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
pitchers flame out at a much higher rate than hitters though, no?
my basis for liking the future in Panik, Brown and Joseph is that they are young hitters tearing up their respective leagues. I’d like to see all 3 of them possibly in AA next year. That could make 2013 look really good if they continue their success. Though I’d worry that Bork would waste a year of their team control by stapling them to the bench
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
And the Giants had a standing trade offer from the Jays in 2003 that was Halladay for Foppert, Ainsworth and Williams
Sabean turned it down, according to Keith Law. Looking back I think its preeeetty safe to say that would have been a smart deal to make. It’s obviously difficult to differentiate that kind of trade from how bad a Lincecum for Rios trade would have been, without the benefit of hindsight.
by busterbarelyevenknowher on Sep 12, 2011 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Susac!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Does he look 55 years old in person?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Of the two people in this picture, who is older by 13 years?

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Aww. It’s so nice that you took your dad to a game! ;-)
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by rotorueter on Sep 12, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
he looks so old
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
if he were from a latin american country
everyone would make crappy birth certificate jokes
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Isn't he, like, the third-youngest player in that league?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
yeah, this was his age 19 season
hard to believe he’s still so young
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
if he can add some more walks to his line, he'll be pretty awesome
though even if he ends up as a rod barajas type, he’ll still be useful at catcher
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I wanna Doumit, damnit.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
well yeah
i’m just saying “if he doesn’t improve his patience, a slugging catcher without a lot of OBP is still useful”
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I'd rather nitpick the specific low-walk/occasional-power catcher you chose
MIGUEL OLIVO OR BUST
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I love Miguel Olivo.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Incidentally, has anyone ever seen Rod Barajas and Miguel Olivo in the same place at the same time?
Olivo: 10 seasons, .243/.279/.421
Barajas: 13 seasons: .239/.284/.415
My theory is that “Miguel Barajas” played three years in the majors but then decided he wanted to start collecting two paychecks.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
That’s a song from the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Hot patootie, Bless my soul
I really love that ISO
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
He also acts older. He’s really poised.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Are his intangibles off the charts?
Which charts?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Relax.
I was talking about his personality when interacting with the fans, etc.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
I was kidding!
Sometimes I make jokes, I promise.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Now that I see this picture, I definitely saw you at the game last night. Assuming this was taken last night.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Sep 12, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Just started watching a replay of the game
Wow…Huff got Kinsler’d bad.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
Yes. But I would rather have his run not count here than have Kinsler's count in the WS
Especially considering he wound up scoring anyway
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 11, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh?
Still on Belt’s AB after Huffs double lol
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 11, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't know you hadn't finished the inning
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 11, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh no worries
I know the biggest spoiler already anyways. :P
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 11, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I could re-watch playoff games but I don’t think I could watch regular season games that I know the score of already.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Well, I'm not really re-watching
I don’t typically watch archived season games, and never a watch a loss.
But hey, Giants scored a weeks worth a runs, so I’m curious lol.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 11, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
lol Affeldt, I guess I'd be angry if these games still meant anything.
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extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
All he needed to do was wrap the hamburger in a plastic bag and dip in hot water for awhile.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
mmmmm
salmonella.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m a little upset I missed the purse party.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 11, 2011 10:30 PM PDT reply actions
I don’t want to go back to work tomorrow afternoon :(
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
You gotta feed the little girl of yours.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
we’ll eat out of dumpsters if it means I don’t have to ever leave her side :)
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wow. The guy who played Spartacus on Spartacus: Blood and Sand just died
I guess they were right to recast the series after the first season rather than wait for his recovery.
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 11, 2011 10:32 PM PDT reply actions
whoa...
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 11, 2011 10:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah. He was only 39 and was obviously in amazing shape. But he died of non-Hodgkin Lymphoma
by WhatsAMataHari on Sep 11, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That sucks
They kept saying he beat it.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
'twas a great day ...............
Giants beat LA, 49ers won, and the highlight of my night …… drinking at a pub seeing a lone cowboys fan sitting at the end of the bar, surrounded by empty pints, hanging his head. i hope he hangs it for the rest of the season!!!!!
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
2011 Giants Baseball: Together we're bruised, broken, and battered.
we watched the Cowboys/Jets game… that was so awesome. I like the brash arrogance the Jets carry.
I also found out my wife knows more about football than I do : /
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
which really isn’t saying much.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Sep 11, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Sooo epic. My favorite stat of all …….. the Cowboys were 246-0-1 when they had a 14-point lead in the 4th quarter ……… until tonight.
You’re a lucky man to have such a wife.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
2011 Giants Baseball: Together we're bruised, broken, and battered.
by GIANT stoner on Sep 11, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Fun fact
If you search for “Ichiro” on Baseball Reference, the Major Leaguers it pulls up is Ichiro Suzuki and Pablo Sandoval.
Fat Ichiro!
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 11, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Dont like it.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Sep 12, 2011 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I really like that Carlos Pena
am i crazy?
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Pena 1B Huff LF Belt RF
Boom!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
i wish we could do
Beltran LF Schierholtz RF Belt 1B
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I was thinking about it the other day
When the Red Sox had a disappointing season in 2010 and missed the playoffs, they went out and got two top-flight players to fix the situation.
Reyes and Beltran, pls? For 7/110 and 3/35?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Matsui and Wilson.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Eurgh
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I'm in this thing.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
CLANK!!!!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
IMO, that’d be 2/3 plus defenders
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Pena and ??
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Belt looks to me like an above average corner outfielder
His range appears good, his routes are getting better, and he has a very good arm, which will be wasted once the Giants move him back to first.
I’d like Belt to be a corner OF for the forseeable future.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I think Belt in RF at AT&T park is different than Belt in LF.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I disagree.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
yeah
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I mean
What do you need to be good in RF at AT&T that you don’t need to be good in LF, exactly?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I do think it requires a slightly larger range to really be successful there, more so than in other parks.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I suppose
But more range is helpful at any outfield position, no?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Well, yeah, but you can get away with less in LF. And while Belt hasn’t embarrassed himself out there, I guess I’m still skeptical that he has the range for AT&T right. But, hey, we’ve hardly seen him out there much and he is an athletic guy, so perhaps with practice he could grow into a very good RF, especially with his arm.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
So what you're saying is
Posey → SS, Crawford -→ RF, Belt —> CF, Huff -—> 3B,
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Bah, stupid strikethrough
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I do agree that perhaps too much has been made of the difficulty of AT&T's RF
Still, it’s hard not to appreciate the level of play we’ve gotten out there with guys like Cruz Jr, Winn and Schierholtz.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
It's like
we’ve grown accustomed to the idea that you are either a +15 fielder out there or a -10, where there actually does exist a middle ground between that.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I also would like to propose
that LF is a lot easier to play when Torres is in CF.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd agree with this.
I mean, of course there’s a bit more ground to cover in RF. But the amount of balls that fall precisely in that sliver of ground between where a normal RF would be responsible and an AT&T RF is responsible is very low.
If that made sense.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
do LF and RF have the same positional adjustment?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I believe so, yes.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I remember in little league
RF was the place where the worst defenders went, because most kids were right handed and pulled the ball, so way more balls got hit to LF than RF.
I sucked, so RF was a place I was a lot. Although I also had two years as a Ishikawa-type light-hitting defensive 1B.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Yep, I was in RF a lot, too.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’ve never played baseball or even catch! /clutches spreadsheets
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
i played one year of little league!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I played right field when I was ten; it was my first year with the big boys. I couldn’t hit at all and I was really scared of some of the twelve-year-olds, so I tried to distract them by smiling at the plate. I drew a lot of walks that year. I still do that at times, mainly because some of the guys who played with me then still play with me now and they expect me to, but I don’t really use it to draw walks. I don’t draw a ton of walks in general. In my freshman year of high school, I hit a triple on a ball above my eyes in a game at Saratoga.
When I was eleven I moved to third base and I’ve stayed there pretty much ever since, with the exception of some time messing around in center field when I was thirteen and fourteen. I used to be reasonably versatile, but I’ve fallen out of practice in the outfield to the point where I’m really not very good there anymore.
And that’s my baseball career.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
lean back on the couch
and tell us more about defensive 1B.
/grabs notepad
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
There was a year when I didn't get a hit
But still had an on-base streak that lasted the entire season.
Good things happen when you don’t swing and no one throws strikes.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Wow. Even as a youngin you were aware that OBP > AVG.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I also stole second every time I was on base
Since no catchers could throw anyone out.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I see
/nods head
/takes notes
How did you feel when you saw Dan Ortmeier drop popups? Or balls get past Ryan Garko?
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I think my latent self-loathing led me to learn to love terrible defending first basemen who could really hit.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
yes, this is good
Your galoot fetishism is finally explained. Now, here’s an inkblot for you to interpret:

Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I see Jesus
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
uh yes exactly
lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
The key thing is to play all of the players out of position
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I think he could figure it out.
Whichever player they have in RF I think he will need some time to get used to it.
I just want Belt to play regularly so they know what they have.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I get that, but you couple the learning curve of RF for Belt, and then the overall clankedness of Huff in LF—-things in the OF could get dicey quickly.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I think Belt has goodish range and a plus arm
So, what? We’re worried that he’ll misplay balls off the wall? How often does something like that happen? Maybe once every 5 home games or so?
Ditto with balls hit into triples alley. How many balls are hit into triples alley that Nate Schierholtz catches but Brandon Belt doesn’t over the course of a season? 5? 6?
I don’t think these are pressing concerns.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I have no idea how many it would be, but 5 or 6 runs is pretty significant. And that’s not even considering Nate’s superior range on bloops and balls up the lane, his excellent throwing arm, etc.
I'd be willing to grant that Nate is probable a win better with the glove
But if the choice is just between those two for my everyday RF, Belt’s the easy pick for me.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Belt certainly ought to be playing somewhere. But I’d have a hard time convincing myself that, say, benching Schierholtz so Huff could stay in the lineup would be the best arrangement.
Eh
If the choice is between Belt RF / Huff 1B and Nate RF / Belt 1B…
I don’t think the difference would be as big as you might think given Nate and Aubrey’s performances this year.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Huff was pretty clanky this year but he’s better than what we saw. Why can’t we just have players that are good hitters and fielders?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Because then everyone complains that they're too expensive!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
No shit?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
OT: The New Breaking Bad (no spoilers)
OMG!!!
The best aspect of GREAT television is when you think things are going to go in a certain direction, and they don’t. Not veering out of the realm of possibility, but just twisting in a way you can’t predict. Like season 2 of Rescue Me, Deadwood, The Sopranos, even The Walking Dead tended to avoid cliched moments when they were expected.
Breaking Bad delivers CONSTANTLY.
COMIN' ATCHA, FROM ANCHORAGE, ALASKA!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
Proud adoptive Father of Joe Panik. Stolen 6/11/11.
Job 1:14-15
Already discussed, see above.
But yeah, this season has gotten more plot lines twisted together than in any other season so far. The last 4 episodes of this season have a lot of stuff to clear up, its gonna be interesting to say the least.
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 12, 2011 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Spring 2012
C Posey
3B Pablo
1B Huff
2B Freddy
SS ?
CF ?
LF ?
RF ?
Huff is making 11 mil next year, no way he doesn’t start
I’ve got a sinking feeling that Belt isn’t a sure thing to start in Left
i've still got a sinking feeling
that we’ll be seeing more Pill than Belt next year
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
LOL
.286/.286/.786
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
his year in Fresno this year
looks almost exactly like Lance Niekro’s “breakout” year in Fresno
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Niekro, age 25: .301/.336/.556
Pill, age 27: .312/.341/.530
For everyone who is saying they don’t believe in Belt because of Ortmeier/Niekro/Bowker – LOOK AT BRETT PILL. HE IS THE DROID YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. HE IS THE CLASSIC GIANTS PSEUDO-PROSPECT.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
www.nooooooooooooooo.com
He is the chosen one! He has more midichlorians than even Kevin Frandsen!
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Pill won't be here next year
I’m a Pill Popper but there’s no room for him on the roster. Reality wins.
So wait, you support Pill but you don't think he's good enough to merit a roster spot?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I think I’ve changed my mind in that I think Belt’s potential outweigh’s anything we’d see from Pill.
Since Pill can only play 1B, it might be best for him to start spring training on a team where he has a chance to win an everyday job.
So yeah, I support Pill, but there’s not enough room on our roster for both of them. Pill may very well have a career in this league, who knows, but Brandon has the chance to be a great player in this league.
I’ll take the potential. I admit my folly.
Fair 'nuff.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Plus
Having Pill and Belt on the roster is a recipe for disaster in that Bochy will rosterbate back and forth between the two. I can’t stomach that bullshit anymore. Put Belt in for the year and be done with it.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
wow
if we’re planning 2012 platoony-toon adventures now, let’s just buy a white flag to fly on the standings pole at Mays Field next year.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Planning to platoon players a year ahead of time means you need better players.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
So you're saying that the Torres / Velez LF thing isn't going to work out?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
wow
/consults DSM
You’ve developed Otto Velez fixation. This may require stronger medication.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not making it up! It's all real!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I see
now you’re just typing nonsense words like “garko”.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, because the things Sabean says to the press at the beginning of the winter meetings garner so much insight into his actual plans.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think so. Planning to platoon players means you want to keep them in situations in which they’re most likely to succeed.
If it were up to me, Belt would have been playing nearly every day since July, but it’s possible — perhaps unlikely, but possible — that Bochy & co. do have some insights into the player and his approach to the game that we lack. Maybe he needs to be brought along slowly; he did race through the minors, after all.
platooning an RHB
means he gets few plate appearances. Platooning an LHB who might have reverse splits (if any of those sample sizes can be trusted) means his overall performance will suffer.
Slavish platooning means not playing someone enough. It’s one thing to platoon Pill and Ishikawa, when it’s midseason and no better players are available. Planning to sit Belt against Cliff Lee or Randy Johnson is fine. Sitting him against every lefty pitcher (not that you are suggesting this, but that seems to be what the Giants usually mean) is not a good strategy.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see any reason to believe that Belt has reverse splits. More generally, I’ll say what I always say: Platooning, especially of young players to ease them into the league, is a strategy most associated with managers like Casey Stengel and Earl Weaver and Davey Johnson — not a group that any baseball fan should take issue with casually.
I’ll stick with the concept of having hitters that need to be in the lineup every day because they’re demonstrably better than their backups.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
see, for example
John Lowenstein and Benny Ayala.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess you could argue that Lowenstein should have been given more playing time, since he became so good in his part-time role, but when he joined the O’s, he was 32 and had a career OPS+ of 92. So making him a starter would have required quite a leap of faith.
And of course, both Lowenstein and Ayala went on to have the best years of their lives as part-timers under Weaver.
Looking more closely at the numbers, it looks like he had Lowenstein and Roenicke in something more complicated than a straight L/R platoon. Roenicke was the right-hander, but he got two-thirds of the at-bats. Anyone remember what was going on there? Roger?
I'll leave you
to research the 70s Orioles, since you are the one summoning the ghosts. My point is that arguing in September 2011 to platoon Belt in April 2012 is premature, and implies roster weakness, not that no players should ever have been utilized in a platoon.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Keppinger and Font.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
one should be everyday SS until they get someone better
the other will sit when Freddy Sanchez returns.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
-

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I think that’s just what prescience feels like.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Reyes / Torres / Belt / Schierholtz
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Watch Torres get nontendered
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
if they non-tender Torres
they better sure as hell have a massive upgrade in mind
Classic Giants would be to sign the oldest free-agent center fielder on the market and sell it to the public as “he’s a gritty gamer who know’s how to play the game”
I fucking hate that bullshit line and I’ve heard it way to many fucking times over the years from the Giant’s organization
run signjuanpierre.exe
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
“You have chose to terminate signjuanpierre.exe. Are you sure you want to terminate this process?”
/clicks ‘Yes’
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
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Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
lulz
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I like this
but I still feel like we need one more proven power bat
on the other hand, I don’t know who I’d switch out because I really like Nate’s defense in right and I want to see what Belt can produce in 500 ab’s
I don’t think Pill plays for the Giants next year…even if they do like his bat there’s just nowhere for him to play. I like Pill and have always thought he deserved a shot but the reality is he won’t be a Giant next year. I just don’t see it happening.
I'm just starting to stretch my rosterbation muscles.
1.Reyes SS
2.Beltran RF
3.Posey C
4.Sandoval 3B
5.Belt LF
6.Huff 1B
7.Sanchez 2B
8.Pitcher
9.Torres CF
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
People are already setting themselves up for rosterbatory disappointment
Some team is going to give Beltran more than 3 years
Reyes isn’t going to sign here
Looking at someone’s galoot stats and than putting them in a defensive position that they have never (or rarely) played is not going to happen.
Like it or not, Sabean still runs this team and that isn’t the way he thinks. You can ALL CAP or repeat ad nauseum your reasons as to why the team will do what you want them to do but that doesn’t make it any more likely.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 8:21 AM PDT reply actions
YES IT DOES
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I'm mostly with you
putting them in a defensive position that they have never (or rarely) played is not going to happen
Actually, I think that’s virtually guaranteed to happen. I hope DeRosa leaves his mitt collection behind, maybe they can have a community equipment locker for guys to go through to find the right glove for their place in the lineup that night.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Work on that refractory period.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
If we all pitch in, we can hire a sniper.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Gonna lose Lopez, need another arm in the bullpen.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Could Buster Posey throw a changeup so filthy, only he could catch it?
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 12, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it's funny that people think SS is that much less injury prone
I mean, if it’s not the natural position you’re playing, it’s not exactly much lower impact than catcher as say first base, for example
OMG LUCAS NO STOP CHANGING THINGS

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by rotorueter on Sep 12, 2011 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
HAHAHAHAHA!!
ALDERAN SHOT FIRST!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible,magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
haha, where is this from?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Lincoln shot first!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Well that's not quite fair
Because even if they literally did nothing, the offense would be improved.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Bruce Bochy has declared that he will play the players he thinks are best, which we have objectively proven are not the best players on the team. This has been consistent since he’s been the field manager. Granted, he has not had many great players to use in that time, but he goes with his gut, which has poor judgment.
Bochy: “I am trying to win ballgames. I use my gut to determine who plays.”
/stomach gurgles
Bochy: “You see? Now you know why Belt is on the bench.”
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Orlando Cabrera
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Justin Christian!
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
NOT BELT
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible,magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Bochy’s gut holds his pants up just fine without Belt.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t get it.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
It’s a double entendre.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh. Right. Pants. I wear those too.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
On your ears.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Too many entendres!
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure that’s not what he entendred.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it wrong of me to go to the same Thai place four days in a row?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Not if it's good
Me, I’m going burrito today.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Great.
I just imagined a hipster taqueria opening in some gentrified neighborhood called Uncircumcised.
Not your fault. Just my stupid brain.
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
...
?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Is not a gentleman’s uncircumcised appendage sometimes called a burrito?
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
/slowly backs away
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
/shakes fist
Embrace my weirdness! Embraaaaace it!
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
…
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I’ve always heard ‘anteater penis’.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Oh my
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Sep 12, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t order the sour cream.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Or the guacamole, for that matter.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
You really maled that one in.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Priapics or it didn’t happen.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
wow i was gonna get tacos for lunch
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 12, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Tacos are more associated with female parts, no?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but when you add that into this whole conversation it just brings up a set of associations i don’t want to spend my lunch hour thinking about
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
/orders tuna tacos for lunch
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Butt Tacos
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
uh.....
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you ordering the same thing every time?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope. I had curry yesterday, pad thai the day before, and then before that spicy green beans before that.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
BEFORE THAT
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Ah, in that case it is not wrong of you.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s pretty much how the government profiles bad people.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
this is actually what i think most reality shows are for.
by shaggingflyballs on Sep 12, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I go the same thai place and order the same thing about 3 days a week. It can’t be healthy but it sure is good…
by shaggingflyballs on Sep 12, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it wrong for me to make Thai green curry from scratch?
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve gone to the same Vietnamese place every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for the past few weeks. Food is satisfying and doesn’t make my stomach feel like crap. I’m not changing.
by non sequitur on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A:
Niners won
Cal won
Giants avoid sweep
All this winning is confusing to me…
Also, if the Giants were any good that last 2 weeks…they would actually be in striking distance of the WC (Cardinals on 4.5 games out).
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
To be fair, Cal “won”.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey…it’s a win. Also considering how the Bears couldn’t win a road game last year…it’s a start.
The defense will get better and Maynard looks like a stud. Allen is going to play in the NFL.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
The defense and Maynard worry me. Maynard’s reads seem… bad… and he’s really stranding his receivers a lot with back shoulder kinds of things. Allen was kind of disappointing last week, but he’s an exciting, exciting player.
I’ve actually been the most pleased with Sofele. The thing to fear the most this year was going to be the crumbling of the running game, but he’s looking good out there. He’s looking very good.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, I find his choice of beard… disturbing.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Defense will be fine…it’s loaded with talent and in college…talent is what wins on defense (as opposed to the NFL where schemes can get you far).
Maynard is raw but you can see the skills…it’s his second game with Cal so I would give it some time. The jump passing stuff needs to stop but that’s more of a QB trying to do too much.
Cal’s running game is always good…no matter who you plug in there…Sofele was really good last year and now Cal may have found a power back in Anderson.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I’m not worried about the defensive line, mind you, but the rest of that side of the ball has been exposed by Fresno and Colorado now. I’m just going to keep my eye on it.
Maynard, I’m not trying to throw under the bus too much. He’s clearly the superior option to Mansion and he’s almost certainly going to be the starter next year. But while it’s true that he’s raw, he’s also a junior with starting experience and probably should already be further along with some of these issues.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
but he played for University of Buffalo…not exactly a powerhouse. Hopefully, he’ll develop into a better version of Nate Longshore..
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Great weekend for sports… GO BEARS!
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 12, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A / sips coffee
Well, I was glad to make it to the yard finally yesterday, and pleased that I picked the correct Dodger game to attend.
On the section to my left there was a crazily inebriated dude wearing a brand-new Giants home jersey with the number 15 AND “Beltran” on the back of it.
1. – If it’s a home creme jersey, why is there a name on it?
2. – Next season he could either feel really silly (Beltran leaves) whereas he could have just had the 15 with no name on it.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 10:26 AM PDT reply actions
In which case 15 would return to Bochy.
I think I’d rather have the defunct Beltran jersey.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Because it’s not a real jersey that a player wears. It’s a replica jersey that a fan wears.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure...
But most definitions of replica include mentions of “exact reproduction” or “a copy exact in all details.”
So, maybe it isn’t a “replica.”
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
We should make sure the manufacturer is aware.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
/klaxon sounds
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
The MLB website makes you choose a name
I think the home jerseys sold in the Dugout stores also have names.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Sep 12, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait...just reading Bagg's notes from Sunday...
so…Beltran hates the Giants now…
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
It’s all the “move the fences in” chatter that has me nervous. Gee, no one was complaining about the dimensions of The Big Phone when the Giants actually had a league-average offense.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
/Huff rolls one slowly to the second archway
by shaggingflyballs on Sep 12, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Huff grounds it to second
It’s at the wall!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Leave the fences where they are, but install an interactive brick system on Willie Mays Wall. When the ball hits one of those bricks, it activates a bonus, a multiplier, or a penalty.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
They do realise that this will also benefit the opposition, right?
Just play a Brandon or two, come on!
That’s the beauty. MLB will leave regulating it in the hands of the home team. It will be like our own little, 24-foot-high humidor.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
You beat me to it!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
we do kinda have that
Hit the right brick, get an inside the park home run! even if you’re Aubrey Huff!
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but my way you get cool HD graphics on the scoreboard.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
This is such a great idea. SUPER MARIO PARK!
“Itsa me, Beltran!”
by shaggingflyballs on Sep 12, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t wait until a ball hits the Tanooki Suit brick. That will be awesome!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
“Thank you, Beltran! But our runs are in another park!”
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s true.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
/Rowand hits pipe in wall and warps to DFA-Land
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
He warps to world 3 and spends the rest of the day in a kayak in the cove throwing fireballs at Big Bertha.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
That’ll be great up until the hypothetical team of Yoshis shows up and whips their asses.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 12, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
The RF wall should be constructed of nothing but Whomp bricks.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
The Letter2
NASA budget scenarios based on what the President wants and what Congress wants. Note the difference of the two while paying special attention to heavy lift delivery dates (100mT or greater).
This makes me angry.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 10:37 AM PDT reply actions
Looks like the senate’s budget is far more broad than the president’s.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Not that I’m any good at reading budgets.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Took me a while to decipher those tables, but they’re comparing the 2010 budget passed by the Democratic Congress with the budget the White House put together in June 2011 in an effort to appease the current Congress. Further analysis can be found in the champagne room.
That place again? But I can’t have sex in there.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
/Donner Party
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like the makings of a delicious bowl of PB&ASKM noodles.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
If I go heavy on the Pasta and Peanut Butter it might carry me over for a couple of days (think of the leftovers).
fake some peanut sauce?
Peanut butter, hot water, soy sauce, ginger, chili. Boil pasta. Done.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting… And I still have the apple sauce for dessert, humm. I never use the ginger and chill and the soy sauce is just sitting there…. This is like Survivor!
it's not the greatest meal in the world that way
but it will make what you seem to have on hand edible.
You can eat the noodles cold too, this is basically what Chinese restaurants in NY serve as “cold noodles in sesame sauce”.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Pasta, olive oil/butter, cheese (you have Parmesan, right?), and black pepper/oregano. Eat.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
That's strange...
I’ve never seen Garlic Salt that looks like this.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Sep 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPCzjHPS—U
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, Julie Roberts.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Not even the little packets that come with Pizza delivery? You are fucked.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
It’s a cheese-like substance.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Penisbutter
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
if
it tastes like cheese for more than 4 hours, consult a physician.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Peanut butter and apple is delicious
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
SHITFUCK OT
JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
Another big blow for the Chiefs: S Eric Berry out for the season with a torn ACL suffered at start of Week 1 loss to Bills.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I prefer my toast to be only lightly browned.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
This is like when Posey got injured.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Well you should.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I am overwhelmed by the indifference.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
And the promise of an early bed?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve spent half the morning watching FPSRussia videos… Have nice day
by posey yaknowsy on Sep 12, 2011 11:44 AM PDT reply actions
I've spend half the morning
watching gameplay videos of Gear of War 2.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I’ve spent the majority of my time today mourning the loss of our government’s ability to think beyond the next election.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I went to the dentist and checked some books out at the library. That may not seem as dramatic as your day…
…aw, hell. I’m boring.
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Did you take any of those books home with you?
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
“checked some books out at the library”
I don’t understand this sentence. What is this library and “checked out” action of which you speak.
by non sequitur on Sep 12, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Communist!
I bet you don’t even have a library card.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I got one for the Oakland Public Library a few years ago when I accidentally fried my laptop with a cup of coffee and needed a place to go to for Internet access.
by non sequitur on Sep 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
true question
from someone I know with more education than me: “How much does it cost to join the library?”
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s not a trick question in Oakland! But I really can’t remember if there was a nominal fee. If there was, it wasn’t much.
by non sequitur on Sep 12, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Working at the library comes with a price
My mom had to swear that she wasn’t nor ever will she be a member of the Communist Party.
(In the late 90’s….in Arizona)
LOL!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
As a teacher you have to swear a loyalty oath to get a job. Or at least you used to …. 1996ish…
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This was for the children’s library, and it seemed strange as it was centered on “communism” which by most accounts stopped being a legitimate threat sometime in 1989.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell that to the Chinese.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Jesus, good point.
Obviously I was thinking very Eastern Bloc.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 13, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I usually work on Mondays, but I’m all wild like that.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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by posey yaknowsy on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
That's much, much better than a government that DOESN'T have to worry about the next election.
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Try getting anything done that takes longer than 4 years and get back to me.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
China says hi and then puts you in jail.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738.html
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That's a separate problem from being jailed for political dissent.
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Wikileaks?
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Nah
unless you think the Swedish government is a proxy for the US government.
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The DOJ has been trying to find a way to charge Assange with something since it started.
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I'm not in that camp
but even assuming that’s true…it’s the Swedish government not the US government.
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What's that, one guy?
Jailed because he gave out classified information he wasn’t supposed to?
That’s really, really, really, cannot-emphasize-how-much-it-is-really different from political dissidents being jailed in China for speaking out against the government. Those are completely incomparable.
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I’d say what the U.S. government does to silent dissent can be compared to what is done in other countries.
Are they putting people in jail for standing on a street corner and professing their opinions? No but is that where we want to set the bar?
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Well we were talking about China
And Calbear compared the US (favorably) to China, then people seemingly disagreed with that sentiment.
So if we’re comparing the US’s human rights record to China’s and trying to establish if it’s better or worse than China’s, I say we set the bar at China.
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China has a lot more problems than people think
insane wealth disparity (although the US may be catching up)
concentrated wealth in the cities and poor countryside.
A government focused on keeping itself in power
corruption/lack of a legal system
environmental devastation…
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Do you happen to see the irony of your comment? That’s like a checklist for the US.
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The problems China faces
are on a complete different level than the US.
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Well, except that China's government keeps itself in power through violence and coersion rather than TV commercials
And the US legal system, while not even close to perfect, is vastly superior.
And where, exactly, is the environmental devastation of which you speak in the US? Devastation is not a word to be used lightly. Our superfund sites are clean as whistles compared to areas in China.
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Politicians are owned by special interests and are not accountable to either the voters nor the rule of law.
Ask the gulf coast if they feel like ‘devastation’ is the correct word to use.
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You can swim in the Gulf of Mexico today. You can eat shrimp from the gulf.
There is nothing in the US that compares with the kind of environmental damage you can find in China. Nothing.
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You can swim in the Gulf of Mexico today. You can eat shrimp from the gulf.
As long as it isn’t in/from one of the many giant oil plumes. Just because it’s not completely 100% unusable doesn’t mean it isn’t devastated. I’ll defer to you on how bad things are in China but, again, that is a low bar to set.
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Wikipedia, obviously, is an imperfect source
But there are decent links to some better places to be found:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_issues_in_China
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I know where you're coming from
but China’s issues are on a completely different level…
While there has been some polarization recently, politicians still have to face the electorate every 2/4 years. While that may be bad in some circumstances, it is a major correction in the system that does not exist in China.
One example: China’s highly touted highspeed rail system had a major crash…China’s government response? Shut down all internet chatter, block access to the area, and throw up a front that nothing bad happened.
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politicians still have to face the electorate every 2/4 years
It doesn’t matter when the same special interests fund both tickets.
While we are talking about the BP oil spill… our government’s response was to block off the area, completely underestimate the damage (such as amount of oil being leaked) and then refuse to show it’s work so independent scientists can have a look.
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It absolutely does matter who wins elections.
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This..
healthcare 2014!!!!
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Because this one is the most important?
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They're all important.
You think that things wouldn’t be different if, say, McCain had won in 2008? Nothing would have changed if it had been Gore instead of Bush in 2000?
There are areas where the two parties have similar stances. But there are more areas where they do not.
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Where they differ is on wedge issues that neither one will touch once in office.
There are perhaps rhetorical differences but no real differences in the terms of actual policy.
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You're free to believe that.
I think it’s crazy.
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I don’t think Al Gore would have invaded Iraq.
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Bingo!
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe not, but the US would have definitely gone to Afghanistan. Plus who knows what the Ds are capable of when trying to prove they are not weak on foreign policy.
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Sure
but Afganistan has been such a problem because the US spend so much resources in launching the war in Iraq…
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I don't see why.
It’s not like it has been going swimmingly since Obama refocused the efforts there.
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Obviously a lot of conjecture
but the idea is that US letting up in Afghanistan allowed the Taliban to regroup in the country. The invasion of Iraq “legitimatized” the claim that the US was out to destroy Islamic states and allow recruiting of fighters much easier.
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I would say occupation of Afghanistan long with every single civilian death goes a lot further towards Taliban recruitment than the Iraq war did.
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Maybe
but Afghanistan was a more “reasonable” war…most could see the reasoning behind the US’ attack there…Iraq…not so much.
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I’d also be interested to see where he stood on the issue at the time of the Iraq invasion. There certainly wasn’t a whole lot of opposition from politicians on the left.
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The second worst thing about 9-11 was how impossible it made political opposition in the aftermath.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the thing though.
I don’t think it was all that impossible. There were millions of people in the streets protesting the invasion of Iraq.
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That was because it was an immoral and illogical thing to do. But for sitting elected officials to oppose the president at the time would have been political suicide in the large majority of cases. You just don’t do that in a time of national emergency, which is why elections matter.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
With that much opposition from the populace how could it be political suicide to agree with them? Sure they would get called names by the hawks but if elections are that important why not side with the people?
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Your contention that the relatively large protests meant there wasn’t overwhelming attitude of ‘let the President preside’ in the country at the time is questionable.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I still don’t understand what made George Bush’s approvals shoot up in September of 2001.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
HE TALKED INTO A MEGAPHONE
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Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
For all his other "issues"
He was very good at rallying the population after 9/11.
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Well, as absolutely scared and freaked as the populace was….I think whomever was the Commander in Chief likely would’ve have rallied the masses and enjoyed the boom of popularity.
But he’s a hell of a cheerleader.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I just don’t understand how on September 10 you would disapprove of him and on September 12 approve of him. Maybe I’m missing something.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
It’s not that your approval changes. It’s that your stated approval changes.
On September 10, bashing him is just bashing him. On September 12, bashing him is failing to stand behind the elected leader of an emotionally reeling nation.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
There certainly was that attitude. My contention is that it was not impossible for politicians to resist it.
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Your argument is with human nature then.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Glad to hear it.
Too bad he didn’t have a vote.
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or you can be China
and say that there is no oil spill…put people in jail for saying that there is, and then black out the internet
Seriously:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11811867
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I don’t think a single person expressed that China is better than the US with regards to civil rights.
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“Void Where Prohibited” really tickles me here.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
At least they will have a space program during this century
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You have weird priorities, man.
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I guess
Although perhaps my preference for furthering the human race runs contrary to someone who is employed by career politicians?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
True, maybe I have a bias towards elections. But the prospect of a government that didn’t have to get itself re-elected is far scarier to me than a lack of funding for an organization which hasn’t made progress in space in five decades.
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I do believe that shit here just got real.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
/popcorn
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
lack of funding for an organization which hasn’t made progress in space in five decades.
This makes me laugh. Perhaps you should ask why and then answer your own question.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
What has the space race done for us?
I mean aside from the internet, mobile phones, computers, microprocessors, GPS, lightweight building/construction materials…
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I went to space camp twice as a kid
My mom worked (still does, to an extent) for NASA. I don’t mean to diminish some of their wonderful accomplishments. I said they haven’t made any progress in space – and I stand by that. We made it to the moon… and now we’re closer than ever back to the earth.
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I wonder if that has anything to do with, you know, cutting their budget since that time?
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bums…do more with less!
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Now I’m imagining NASA taking the shuttles to Pep Boys for regular maintenance.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It might, except that
NASA’s budget has, adjusted for inflation, remained fairly steady since 1970 (obviously it peaked during Apollo), and has in fact increased slightly.
So sure, one could blame it on budget cuts. If their budget had been cut.
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Right. NASA did awesome things during the 1960’s when the budget was high, and then the budget was cut in the early 1970’s, and it hasn’t made as much progress.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA
I mean, it’s right here:
High Budget= Apollo
Budget Cuts=everything since
You don’t see the pattern?
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HAHAHA!
(obviously it peaked during Apollo)
So you want progress beyond low earth orbit with a budget that was slashed (yes, slahed) since Apollo. That’s awesome. I look forward to your design specs on how to accomplish that.
One-half of one percent of the budget. That is all NASA gets now. To say it has remained “fairly steady” since the 70’s is ridiculous.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I just posted a link to the numbers right above. The correlation between money and extent of space exploration is even more direct than I thought
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Of course it is. GiantPain is misleading the debate. In that way, this is just like talking to a politician.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Except taht
The technology that they used to make it to the moon is cheap now. The entire computer systems which powered the control rooms and the ships were less powerful than a 500$ microchip.
The technology has advanced dramatically. It should be possible to do even more than they did during Apollo with far, far less money. But they’re, you know, not.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
The technology that they used to make it to the moon is cheap now.
Please stop. You are embarassing yourself now. Not only is this not true, the rockets to make this possible don’t even exist anymore.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Everything else in our society related to transportation technology has made significant strides since the 1960s
Cars are cheaper, better made, more fuel efficient, and have longer range. Trains are cleaner, faster, stronger. Airplanes fly farther and faster.
Every single mode of transportation on the planet earth is better, cheaper, safer, and more efficient than it was in the 1960s. Except for spacecraft.
Because they government didn’t give them enough money?
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Anyone spot the irony in this post?
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Heh
Absolutely.
But to answer GiantPain’s stupid question: Yes.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. Short answer: Of course. There’s no profit in Ford creating lunar rockets.
It’s cool that none of those other things have ever gotten government support, though.
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It was refreshing to see how the market tackled the fuel efficiency problem.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
KKEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF NASA!
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by TheLetter2 on Sep 12, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LET PRIVATE INDUSTRY RACE TO SPACE
PG&E is a good choice. They launch manhole covers in SF into orbit all the time.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
PG&E isn't private.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
PG&E
is an investor-owned utility.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It's publicly traded
And it has, essentially, a government-sanctioned monopoly.
Adam Smith’s dream, it ain’t.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
right
it’s an investor-owned utility.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
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by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
This is an awful thing
I think we can all agree that where monopolies need to exist, they shouldn’t be administered for profit.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
hahaha
SO SAY WE ALL, EVERY ONE!
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by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The Prius wasn't invented because of the US government, yo
I believe your post was sarcastic, but market innovation and consumer demand for higher mileage cars was, and is, far more influential in the development of better fuel efficiencies than the government.
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He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Yes, and fuel standards had nothing to do with it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there are much better examples of government intervention. Like the flipping infrastructure for all of those things!
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The better ones didn’t leap immediately to mind….
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
You're also forgetting
that California is a leader in fuel mileage standards and a major market for cars.
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It is hilarious to me that delivering 130 metric tons to orbit with enough fiel leftover to establish an orbit around the moon and then return home just got compared to building a Prius.
I move that we retire the “It’s not rocket science” saying. Now when we want to express how easy something is, we can say “Well, it’s not like building a Prius!”
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by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m gonna go ahead and count the massive amount of data gathered and scientific knowledge gained by orbital telescopes and robotic missions to other planets as ‘progress’.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
When I say NASA has not made progress in space, I speak narrowly in terms of manned spaceflight
I apologize if that wasn’t clear.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I hope you can see why it’s frustrating, at least, that you’re suggesting NASA shouldn’t be funded because they haven’t made progress in what you admit is a particularly narrow area of discovery, which you picked because they haven’t made progress there, even though you don’t deny the progress or the value of the progress made elsewhere.
It’s a little like saying we should trade Lincecum because he doesn’t control the running game.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
NASA shouldn’t be funded
That should have been qualified by something like “as much”. I didn’t proofread for needlessly absolute statements.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I never said that NASA shouldn't be funded
I just said, all the way back yonder, that funding NASA isn’t a pressing issue, as it’s not like they’ve made significant progress in space. That’s all.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I apologize for using a needlessly absolute statement there.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Clearly
a Sith
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I should have been more careful, is all. By missing a technicality, the actual content of my comment is easily dismissed. As we see.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
But
the impact that NASA had on society goes far far beyond the Saturn V rockets or the space shuttle…
NASA’s biggest mission is to push the boundary of research and thinking…in essence it allows scientists to be creative without worrying about bottom lines or profit motives
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Don’t forget Earth sciences and aero technology. All for the annual cost of a micro-fraction of the amount Obama just proposed as a job stimulus.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I certainly agree that funding Nasa would be a better idea than the jobs bill =)
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
How close are we to sex in the champagne room?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Way past it.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Quoting the great Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Apollo in 1969. Shuttle in 1981. Nothing in 2011. Our space program would look awesome to anyone living backwards thru time.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Do I classify this as a dodge or a parry?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
And then all that other stuff.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I didn’t take that to say that he would prefer living in China.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Apparently you can’t have a government that both requires reelection and is capable of thinking beyond its next reelection.
Do you know of one?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Post-Meiji Japan → Millitarized Government → WW2
I would says FDR’s tenure and maybe Kennedy.
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No…I know what you’re talking about…but that was not a democracy…I mean the era is named after the emperor.
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Wait, you are calling the Taisho democracy not a democracy? The late 1800-early 1900 era was based on parliamentary rule. How was it not democratic?
Because
it was a de facto front for the military.
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Except…they weren’t, until the early Showa era. If you are pointing to militaristic expansion, that was about normal for the era, and a reaction to the obvious.
No it wasn't
Japanese aggression into China during 1910s was pretty much an attempt into colonization by the military.
Post-WW1 Japan had some gains but was quickly shutdown by the military.
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in any event, the original question as I understood it was how an elected govt could function while worrying about future post next election. I didn’t really put a lot of thought into it,but clearly nothing stops it from doing so
by Hyoton on Sep 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The late stages of the French Third Republic would qualify. No matter who won the election, the same people would form the government because the families who controlled the Bank of France insisted that the socialists not be allowed to take power.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Well that would seem to disqualify them
Since they weren’t really worried about the election if they knew they couldn’t lose, right?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Well, eventually in 1936 they did lose and Léon Blum became Prime Minister
But then in 1938 the conservative Radical-Socialist party took back power, so I don’t know if that counts. I just like talking about 1930s France.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
I've spent half the morning reading ASOS
AND I AM VERY UPSET OVER THE EVENTS OF THE LAST FEW CHAPTERS.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Sep 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of boredom and mourning . I have accomplished both. I also replied to a week old article!
Now replying to internet articles might be the biggest waste of time I will have today.
I just want to say,
A) I’m not a bandwagoner even though I started posting during the 2010 playoffs. Furreals.
B) You guys/gals are awesome.
C) I think I will be rooting for the Brewers in the playoffs.
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
I hope the Rays make it
But Brewers are my first-choice team too.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I think this is my order
1. Brewers
2. Rangers
3. Rays
4. anyone but the Dbags
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible,magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
I'd rather the DBacks win than the Yankees or Red Sox or maybe the Phillies.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Yeah, I don’t know if I can survive another Phillies WS win. My friends here in Philly are already pretty insufferable as it is and impossible to have a sane discussion with. The other day I tried to discuss how the Giants injuries are pretty crazy, all I got was laughter and chasm about how the Giants are the only team to ever have injuries, blah blah blah.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Sep 12, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually I would really root for the rangers to win it all or the rays
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible,magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
I'm fine with the Phillies winning. They're a great team.
I don’t care if the fans are obnoxious.
by Every6thDay on Sep 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this
I just have a mental bias against recent-winners.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
But I'm with you
I really hope the rays make it to the playoffs
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible,magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
Why do you hate the Giants?
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lol
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
2010: TGWTWS One of the most unbelievable, impossible,magic-packed amazing years of my life.
Before I even look at a giants lineup I'm already thinking LOLBELT
The 2011 San Francisco Giants: comprised of extraordinary pitching and a black hole of suck that is their offense
I’m rooting for the Angels/Rangers/Brewers/Tigers to win…I rather not have the Yankees/RS/Philllies to win…
I would cheer on the Braves for its players but then I would have to kill myself.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
And normally I don’t, but living in Phillie now has me hating the phillies for no good reasons.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Sep 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a hard time rooting for any AL team.
That said, I’d rather the Rays, Rangers, or Tigers win before the Phillies.
I’d root for Philly over NY or Boston.
PROUD FATHER of a baby totally made during the 2010 World Series.
Brew Crew for me
The only baseball hat I have other than my Giants one is a 70s retro Brewers hat, the one with the “M” and “B” interlocking to look like a glove.
This one:

Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 12, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I welcome bandwagoners. There’s all the room in the wagon. It shouldn’t go to waste.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
don't worry
that’s the funny thing, it won’t be crowded any time soon.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Of the teams currently slotted to make the playoffs, I’ll root for the Tigers.
That’s the list.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
GO CHIGLOOS!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I really really hate reply all!
Who ever wrote the code for it needs to stand trial in the Hague.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Sep 12, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions
Reply Some
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
It just so fucking annoying. IT at my work(2000+ employees) sent out an email to everyone by error about 30 minutes ago. So far I have gotten 30 replys saying take me off this list, 30 saying I got this emali in error, 20 saying STOP REPLYING ALL and 10 saying it was spam.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Sep 12, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It was sent by error.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Sep 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure it was spam.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, it was sent by a person I know and contained no attachments or links just asked for advice on a simple question.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Sep 12, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
if you are using outlook
create a rule for messages with that exact subject line ("Re: Dumbass replyall message) and you can automatically mark them read/delete them/etc.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I always liked when I worked and a position opened up that was going to be filled internally (… moving right along), and the e-mail about the position specifically says to reply and not reply all with your interest. And then everyone replies all.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see it as a coding problem so much as a “people use technology dumb…ly” problem.
I suppose it would be convenient to have an option when you send the e-mail to disable reply alls on return.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
That happened to me a few times. I thought it was hilarious.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It is kind of funny, but it makes me doubt the capacity of my fellow worker.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Sep 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s always nice to be above average.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
OT - Caltrain to San Jose Muni
Looks like me & some folks will be taking the Caltrain from SF to SJ for the Sunday afternoon SJ Giants playoff game.
Anyone done this before?
Any tips for transit between the train station and Muni?
Or…how much is a taxi?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 12:56 PM PDT reply actions
Lots of taxis outside the train station. You’ll need to call for one after the game (ask if your game-bound driver will give you his cell #). SJ is not like SF taxi-wise. I’d guess it will be $10.00-$12.00 to get to Muni)
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
+1 Thanks.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
my recollection
when I asked this question of the Baron a while back was: the bus is a big pain.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I did it a few years ago and that was my take-away. I figured I could’ve f’d it up, but hearing it from the Baron makes me realize it’s a bad idea.
On a Sunday no less. LOL. Hello Taxi!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
srsly
I have no idea about a Sunday schedule for VTA, I used to get lucky on weeknights because my bro-in-law worked down there but that’s no help any more. We just drive LOL ENVIRONMENT.
Where have you gone, Steven Revetria? A bandwagon turns its lonely eyes to you.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
by natteringnabob on Sep 12, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
From my experiences with Cal Train and public transit in general, the only advice I have for you is leave EARLY… and uh are the 9ers also at home that day? if so leave Saturday.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Yeah…Between $17.50 each for roundtrip Caltrain and roundtrip cab fare…..I think we’ve decided to rent a car!
HOORAY!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
On the subject of public transportation:

(from SFGate)
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
This is amazing.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
This is awesome LOL
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Sep 12, 2011 1:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I apparently need to learn an important lesson about picking fights when I'm serverely outnumbered.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Or rethink your stance.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
You first.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Lars didn’t need our help—-the rest of us should have just stayed out of it.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I thought it went rather well!
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
How's life in radio land?
I managed to get caught in a traffic jam this morning, so I got more ATC than I normally do. The interview with Panetta was interesting.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
If it was this morning, you meant Morning Edition. I didn’t listen to much of it today.
Things are fine here. I’m working on a piece about Tennessee’s Hispanic population, and we’re looking toward the fund drive. Always the fund drive.
/sigh
A listener-supported service
Whoops! I listen every day and still miffed that. Bah.
All Things Considered is on the way home, Morning Edition on the way in. I’ll get it straight one of these years.
And just try to think of it as a FUN drive.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I’m working on a piece about Tennessee’s Hispanic population
All 3 of them?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Tennessee’s major industries include agriculture, manufacturing, and tourism.
- from Wiki
I imagine the Hispanic population is likely “invisible”, but the agriculture a main industry….they certainly exist.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 13, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
My suggestion would be to know what you are talking about first.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I did!
You and I just know different things.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Agreed, with one small difference
The things I know are correct.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
As are the things I know
You see how this might cause a problem.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Just about everything you posted above about NASA is incorrect and easily proven to be so by anyone who has taken even a little bit of interest in the subject. Your stubborn insistence otherwise is the problem.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
what about the dogs?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Heh.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
And your arguments are often dishonest.
Me: NASA’s budget has been cut since its golden years
GiantPain: No is hasn’t
Me: /refutes you with evidence
GiantPain: /moves on to a different talking point without addressing the one at hand
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I only ever said it hasn't been cut since 1970, but I guess putting words in my mouth is more fun =P
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
So sure, one could blame it on budget cuts. If their budget had been cut.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Sincere apologies
If their budget had been cut [in the past 40 years].
But hey, take it up with Nixon.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
but the things he knows are legitimately correct.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Says him.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Arguing on the internet?!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
:(
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I heard that Hell started to employ greeters just to better follow WalMart’s lead.
/100% tongue-in-cheek. Oh, god, I’m sorry. I’m so, so sorry. It was a joke!
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re disinvited to my birthday party!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Then you’re going to need to find somebody else to bring sporks. Because if I’m not invited, I refuse to walk the three convenient minutes to WalMart to get reasonably priced sporks for your party.
/see, i can plaiz both sides.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I received a secret copy of the quality, believable, satisfying ending of BSG that I’ll be showing at the party. It’s a pity that you’ll miss it.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
It was all a dream.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
After the destruction of the resurrection ships, the Cylons and humans had a cross-breeding party in order to satisfactorily replenish the dwindling populations and undeniably end the bitter conflict for the next generation.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
And then the Allied bombers swept in and blew them all to pieces.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Long live America!
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This sounds perfect.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Cavill was fortunately not invited.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
D’Anna was especially invited.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
NEWSFLASH: WALMART BUYS OUT NASA
“Our commitment to cheap, quality goods should not be limited to one planet or even one solar system,” said CEO Mike Duke. In other news, Safeway plans an aggressive move on an intradimensional organization of space travelers the names of which, unfortunately, cannot be printed in any currently available medium.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Instead, I will quote Baggs talking about his pokemonz
If you have one, hope your fantasy football team did as well as mine did today. Talk to you Monday.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
It wouldn’t have been so tempting to argue if you weren’t so wrong.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Ain't that always the way.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Jose Reyes should pilot the space shuttle!
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
FUND ALL OF THE SPACESHIPS
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
It appears that the draft picks are assembling in SF
Ricky Oropesa and Andrew Susac have both tweeted about going to AT&T park today.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Shift-A
Grant hasn’t made a new thread yet? You poor souls.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:43 PM PDT reply actions
It’s starting to smell of mildew in here.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Like under my sink.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like you haven't been here in forever!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
/is gone for another 8 months
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 12, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
You got me
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
They should photoshop my face onto your body in that GIF and I think that will solve everything.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn it. Now I want to see this.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst thing was
We really started sucking right after that was made, so we didn’t get to see it.
But I think Natto still posts the one with Goofus’ head, but I’m not usually awake for the post-games.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I don’t know about forever, but It’s definitely been a while.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
We've been so lonely.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
I’m sorry, I’ve bee really busy :(
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Prussian!
Jose Flores: Well, at least he tried hard.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that. He also tried hard.
by free f.p. #14 on Sep 12, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Hi!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
PC! Hi!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Hi!
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Hi!
Nothing much, just busy trying to find a job, going on interviews, etc.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Good luck in the rat race.
Hey, you’re known to turn up in Seattle every now and again, right?
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 12, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually I was just there for an interview. But only for 4 hours. I literally flew in in the morning, took the interview in the afternoon as was back in the Bay for rush-hour traffic.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Hope that it’s going well! I understand the market is pretty brutal.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I have a friend who just graduated from Stanford law. Got a 60k job, yeah! Has 200k in debt, :(
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I’d kill for a 60K job. I’d kill for a 30+K job actually.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s demoralizing. I think I’m going to have to go back to the makeup counter in another month. I’ve already moved back home temporarily. It flat out sucks. But I really don’t want to complain about it anymore than this.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know. I’ve heard a lot of horror stories.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
hah, go fig!
Giants are playing up here next June if you missed it; I’ma try and throw a mini-McCoven meetup together.
by Lies and Perfidy on Sep 12, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll absolutely be there if there’s anyway I can. Such an amazing ballpark.
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, seriously, good luck with that. What field?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
LLLAAAWWWW!!!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Well yeah, but that’s a little vague.
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
LLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Non-politics discussion of the afternoon
This has been brought up before, but look at San Francisco’s one-year park factors. Wow.
"Forget it, Jake. It's academic."
Eek.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!
Where’d the Space Nerbs go?
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Too bad he couldn’t have weighed in on the NASA funding issue.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
That Stanley Kubrick is a sticky fingered son of a bitch.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Look, I think we all know that the moon is controlled by a coven of owlmen who can only be stopped by the mighty Hercules.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Owlcroft?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
So, I’m guessing there’s a new troublemaker around here? I’ve missed so much :(
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
We had a legitimate moon-landing denier.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Listen, the moon never landed anywhere. It’s just floating up there. I don’t know how you guys can claim differently.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, GiantPain’s a good kid generally; he just gets a little headstrong sometimes.
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Oh, so it’s one of the regular troublemakers! Well that’s ok! now I don’t feel so out of the loop :)
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s joking. It was someone else.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
And just like that I’m back out of the loop
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The tragic story of my hula hooping career.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 12, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I LOL'd
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by Prussian Creole on Sep 12, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
A friend told me a story yesterday that he and a buddy were selected for a hula-hoop-off at a Reno Aces game a year or two ago.
“Sure, we’ll do it”
Turns out my buddy couldn’t hula and got mercilessly boo’d. Ballpark guy came to collect the hoops and said “I’ve never seen that before, you got boo’d!”
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 12, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
A ‘friend’ told you about a ‘buddy’…. suuure.
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by Johnny Disaster on Sep 12, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I would hope that I might be better at creative fiction than the above.
Maybe not though.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Sep 13, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Now you see what you’ve done!
Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.
TSFGWTWS DESPITE Botchy, not BECAUSE of him.
Now lets be fair
GiantPain was just over his head on this particular issue.
I mean, if the discussion were about how to misinterpret statistical analysis, he would be the last person I would challenge.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Sep 12, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Har har.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He's really good! He's an injury risk! But he's really good! But he'll be expensive! But he's really good! But he's an injury risk!

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