On Carlos Beltran
For lent, I gave up looking at Zack Wheeler's stats. Cold turkey. I don't even know what lent is, but I'm really into it in this case. If Wheeler makes it up to the majors, I'll pretend that it's Zach Wheeler, a non-prospect with a similar name.
Jesse Foppert-for-Kenny Lofton would have worked out just fine in 2002. The Giants didn't have to give up a top prospect for Lofton, but if they had, it would have worked out just splendidly. Matt Cain-for-Sean Casey wouldn't have worked out just fine in 2004. Casey was mediocre from then on, and Cain is Cain is Cain, which is to say, a pitcher who is better than you. Every time Cain took the hill for the Reds, we'd weep silent tears.
We don't know which one Wheeler-for-Beltran is going to be yet. But we're starting to get an idea. His wrist is hurting -- that's a different malady from his knee hurting, which is what we were already prepared for. He's old. He's a free agent. He's slumping. Wheeler is hitting 99 mph with his fastball. Things aren't looking up.
The temptation, then, is to wish we could hop in a time machine and trade Wheeler, Thomas Neal, and another prospect for Hunter Pence. That guy's hitting. He's around for another couple of years. He might not even follow the normal aging curve -- he's 235 if you go by the calendar from his home planet -- and he'd sure look nice hitting after Pablo right now. It might be more tempting not to make a trade at all, and just like this offense sink quietly into the cove.
But while the trade isn't looking good right now, it's only been ten days. There are still two months (and hopefully more) to go. What the last ten days have reinforced for me isn't that it was a mistake to trade for Beltran, it's that, holy crap, am I glad they traded for a hitter. I'm still not happy that they gave up Wheeler, but for the short-term, I can't imagine looking at this lineup every day without expecting Carlos Beltran to hit like Carlos Beltran.
If Beltran's wrist is more than a strain, I'll probably just give up and read the Spark Notes for all of the remaining games this season. A grown human being can only take so many Huff-Cabrera-Schierholtz permutations in the 4-5-6 spots. I don't like the trade yet -- Beltran's mini-slump shows the folly of expecting two much out of a two-month rental -- but I don't think I'd wave a magic wand and undo it yet.
Does that make sense? I'm still waiting a bit to complain. The Giants' offense is so bad right now, I'm thankful that there's an old, gimpy outfielder on the roster who will break out one of these days. Could be tonight. Could be tomorrow. Soon! It will be soon! And it's this sad, unrealistic expectation that gives me hope for this offense. The Giants' offense is awful. But it shouldn't be this awful. So let's all raise our glasses and make a toast to "not this awful." Beltran gives us hope enough for that.
Since moving to Mays Field, the Giants have never had a three-series homestand where they've lost each series. That they're close is an indictment of the worst offense we've seen since, well, 2008. But where the 2008 Giants had Pablo and nothing, the 2011 Giants have Pablo, Beltran, and nothing. I still believe. I don't like the trade, but as long as Beltran stays in the lineup, I'm glad it was made.
Now heal that damned wrist and get back in the lineup, Carlos. Please.
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JGallagher24 Chef Justin
Aaron Rowand thinks the West Coast Offense is absolute garbage…because Ditka never ran it #RowandFacts
4 minutes ago
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Deserves to be here too
SeanGothman Sean Gothman
Aaron Rowand wanted to cast George Wendt in “Milk.” #RowandFacts
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
by DFARowand on Aug 9, 2011 12:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Had to look up who George Wendt was/is.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Wow
Thanks for making me feel old.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think bgunn is very young
He probably just didn’t care for Cheers
I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.
True and true. But if you said Norm, I would have know who you meant. Stay young GT.
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Do you like George Wendt?
Do you like beans?
Would you like to see a movie about George Wendt eating beans?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Animaniacs!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Hello Nurse!
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
No.
Yes.
No.
You’re not starting a #bgunnFacts are you?
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
jhiat00 bgunn thinks smug as a bug is a compliment #bgunnFacts
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I just finished saying I trusted you. That was so 12:42.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
I saw that and immediately felt like a jerk :(
But I was just referencing the last thread!
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/is slightlt disappointed the #bgunnfacts search returns no results
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
bgunn hangs out in Grass Valley and has liberal values.
He also likes Fred Eaglesmith. He might be older than I. I hope he can come to my birthday part on the 20th.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
True on GV. I’ve never been accused of having values.
True on Fred. I’m 50. Will there be birthday pie?
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
I’m turning 59. Damn. Still looking for someone older to attend.
I can arrange to accommodate someone with pie values.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d love to see the D-man again, but he’s maybe half my age, and his values don’t include cupcakes.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I would think that a feature film featuring George Wendt completely spun out of his head on beanies….yes, that would be funny.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 9, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU'RE WELCOME
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
LOL
mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
Aaron Rowand thought Mike Singletary didn’t get a fair shake from the Niners. #rowandfacts
1 minute ago
Scott thinks everyone should get a shake like his
FLAIL, WAIL, FAIL
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
OT re-watching Veronica Mars
I just got to the point in Season 2 where the show begins taking a dump on everything that was ever good in life.
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Season 1 is one of the top seasons of television in television history…makes season 2 look like crap and season 3 look like crap that you stepped in while barefoot.
by Rocko711 on Aug 9, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
S2 pisses me off because it retcons S1. WHY WOULD YOU FUCK WITH THAT?!
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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think S2 was either the writer getting himself stuck in too much of a jam plot wise or getting way too clever for his own good.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I like season 3 way more than season 2.
And I didn’t really dislike season 2 until Keith slept with the married woman (or was that season 3)?
I liked the rape arc of season 3 – did not like Piz. I felt like they were forcing him on us and it ruined a lot of the season for me
I barely remember S3, aside from Piz’s existence and the weird emo theme song they used.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember that the sheriff died, so Keith became sheriff, but he pissed everyone off with some bizarre anti-drinking crusade, so at the end of the show the town was about to vote him out of office.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
I’m actually not sure if I ever finished S3. (This is not me complaining about spoilers, though. Not sure I care either way.)
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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
V Mars
I only saw season 3 and I really liked it. Guess I gotta see 1 now.
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“Ah do ah do!”
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- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on Aug 10, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Because I am not flexible enough in real life to toot my own horn
CrazyCrabbers The Crazy Crabbers
When Aaron Rowand buys tickets to a sold out event they are ‘Squating room only’ #RowandFacts
I have an unhealthy obsession with washed out Giants prospects.
by Crazy Crabbers on Aug 9, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Signs that this Giants offense is making me depressed and irrational
Last night, when they had two on and none out in the 2nd inning, I actually thought, “Man, I wish Darren Ford was on the roster so he could pinch-run right here.”
Have I made myself clear? I WISHED DARREN FORD WAS ON THE BENCH SO HE COULD PINCH RUN IN THE SECOND INNING AGAINST A TEAM THAT HAD LOST 10 GAMES IN A ROW.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
A three-run deficit quite literally feels insurmountable. This is unbelievable.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Agreed
I stopped watching after the first half inning.
If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them.
by WilliamVanLandingham on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
As I stated in the post-game, I was wishing Cabrera was bunting both times he was up w/runners
@ 1st and 2nd.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
This
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I am going to continue to agree to disagree
I would not bunt with Aaron Rowand on deck facing a RHP.
If you want to argue with how the game was managed, it starts and ends with Aaron Rowand being in the lineup (and batting 6th).
I realize it would have been (statistically) a bad play. But I also “knew” he would not score or advance the runner either time.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
We're having this discussion in the last thread
statstically it would have been a worse play if you were going for more than one run.
But it’s a statstically better play if you’re only going for one and especially if you’re going to the bottom of the lineup.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
but as I said in the last thread, do any of those statistical models include Aaron Rowand facing a RHP?
no
but it also doesn’t include Orlando Cabrera against any pitcher.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Good question.
But I’d say Miggy’s the worst of all of them. Rowand can still occasionally make a decent play in the OF, and Cabrera has better range. It has been a while since I saw a LL game, tho.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
That it
Giants need metal bats
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
more than one run
What is this magic of which you speak?
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
With you
It was torturous watching runners get on base to start innings, and knowing that this team has neither the hitting ability to string multiple hits together to score runs, the power bats to make a pitcher pay for mistakes, or the speed necessary to manufacture runs.
There is just no facet of offense in which this team excels.
I guess swinging at sliders in the dirt isn’t a category then…
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually thought that last night, that somehow with Burriss and Ford doing their Vrroom thing, as silly as it was, managed to come up with some sort of key run here and there. This team has no Vrooommmm.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
ROFL
RegrettableHulk Joey Domeier
Aaron Rowand was excited because he thought Jay Cutler was doing an “Aaron Rowand” when he sat on the bench in the playoffs. #RowandFacts
2 minutes ago
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 12:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
RowandFacts heading for trending?
It was funny to hear about Cody finding out there is a “I hate Cody Ross” Facebook page (his wife contacted MLB to have it taken down). I cant wait until this gets back to Rowand.
If I tweeted, I would post “Barry Bonds once called him Scott (as in Scott Rolen)”
It would be weird to sneak a real fact or two in there.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
It's been tweeted now
I went a head and took care of that for you.
I have an unhealthy obsession with washed out Giants prospects.
by Crazy Crabbers on Aug 9, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
A writer from the Crazy Crabbers?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
yes
I have an unhealthy obsession with washed out Giants prospects.
by Crazy Crabbers on Aug 9, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Beltran is busted
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 12:36 PM PDT reply actions
bochy screwing the season over once again.
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 9, 2011 12:39 PM PDT reply actions
August is bumming me out.
Way out to left field, where I am caught on the warning track.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Thanks for this one-line summary of the last week’s games.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
This was good
Giants55 Robert
Aaron Rowand would let A.J. Pierzynski kick him in the nuts! #RowandFacts
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
He would like it too. BestTeamates4evar
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I believe in Carlos Beltran.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I hate this...
what is even worse is that the bandwagon fans are still all optimistic like “Well, we’re still gonna kick butt in the playoffs.”
I wanna just scream back “NO WE ARE NOT! THIS IS NOT THE SAME TEAM AS LAST YEAR! WE ARE IN TROUBLE!”
But I restrain myself.
I hope the Giants can escape the first inning without allowing any runs
Because then I could watch baseball for a little longer this evening.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, last night I watched the first inning and then finish watching series 5 of Doctor Who.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
And speaking of which, I just discovered that there’s a Dr. Who short featuring not just one, but TWO Amy Pond! Both in mini-skirts! And, in fact, that’s part of the plot!
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Where is this? And when does the season start back up again?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
The “shorts” are here:
http://io9.com/5783593/doctor-who-reveals-the-real-problem-with-amy-ponds-short-skirts/gallery/1
the season starts in mid-September, just enough time to upgrade my cable package.
Sorry— the discovery of a 11/Amy (two Amy’s) takes some of the stink of this week off
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, yes, that one is quite amusing.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I’m now watching Dr. Emo and Martha right now so it’s good to know there’s still some 11/Amy I haven’t seen yet. Those two are the reason why I’m completely addicted to the show right now
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still stuck at the end of S4, I know it’s almost time for Tennant to go, but I can’t seem to generate enough interest to finish this season.
Maybe the Giants will suck and I won’t want to watch the end of the game. nahhh
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
S5 is pretty kick-ass with some episodes that are as good as anything you’ll see in sci-fi so definitely worth making it to. I like Tennant but I can see him being pretty exhausting after awhile, especially with all the Rose stuff lurking.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
/smacks forehead
This is why I lost interest – the last episode I watched had Rose in it.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
S5/6 is (mild spoiler) Rose-less- so much so the small contingent of Rose/10 shippers still out there were upset and complained about 11’s off flirting with Amy when he should still be pining after Rose.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The end of season 4 is weird.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 9, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That’ll be something to save for when Belt signs a new contract.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanna get that
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
Now heal that damned wrist and get back in the lineup, Carlos. Please.
I don’t care about the wrist. Get back in the lineup and heal the damned production, Carlos.
Holy shit! I think we seriously just had an earthquake in Pierre, SD.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I was just going to say that I didn’t see anything.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Pretty sure it was an earthquake. I’ve spoken to a few people around town and we all felt it. That was weird.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
SUPERVOLCANO!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
NUCLEAR WARHEAD!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
could have just been the 600 Pound Virgin.
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
Yep. Earthquake. Radio said it was 3.4.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
44.365°N, 100.363°W
Plug those coordinates into Google maps and you will see it was centered under Poplar Ave.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it bike week? Perhaps it’s just a bunch of Harley’s.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Ahh, riding to Sturgis is a young coke-fiends game. We were there on this very very sad day in 1995. It was a long, teary 1,500 mile ride home.
RIP Jerome. DDHNM.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They’re honoring him at the ballpark tonight. C’mon down. (and thanks.)
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
phone wouldn’t stop ringing
i wouldn’t answer it
but it wouldn’t stop ringing
so i answered it.
drove from santa cruz to san francisco
lots of sad, sad in the streets, sad on the sidewalks, too much sad
split to Bolinas
played cassette tapes at Smiley’s
stayed drunk for 3 days.
Death don’t take no vacation in this land.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 9, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
near La Framboise Island.
Archer makes this chuckly for me.
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
That small stretch of land that connects Pierre to the island has been washed away now. Floods, earthquakes… just waiting for a tornado.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Don’t tempt fate. We’d had some of our biggest thunderstorms of the year the past few days, which is weird for August. Usually May and June.
I understand Aaron Rowand is in favor of earthquakes because he believes the Richter scale was named after Chicago native Andy Richter.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
LOL Agen Ned
still paying Juan Pierre $3.5 million this season
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
Not shocking, considering one of the largest know earthquakes in north america had an epicenter near the Mississippi.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
New Madrid is going to fuck some shit up some day.
And it is not going to be pretty.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone
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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
HOLD ON THERE, AMIGO...
…there’s a New Madrid?
Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's
by The Gene Hackman on Aug 9, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
And only about 75 miles west of me. The highest earthquake risk in the US outside the West Coast is along the New Madrid Fault. Damaging tremors are not as frequent as in California, but when they occur, the destruction covers over more than 20 times the area because of underlying geology.
If my life is for rent, and I don't learn to buy, then I deserve nothing more than I get, 'cause nothing I have is truly mine. - Dido Armstrong
You just plagiarized from that website!
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Sorry
I have a bad stomach today. I’ll try to be a little more careful. I also caused an X-7 class solar flare.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
River rats. The lot of ’em.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
You’re not telling me anything I don’t know. Been there.
Is this where we enlighten others on the correct pronunciation of PEER, South Dakota?
Have I ever told you how much I like you?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Do you also pronounce CREEK like it’s spelled CRICK?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
My nieces and nephews in Montana say crick.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Out in the country doesn't even begin to describe where they live
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I like to use it
for “Walnut Crick”. Seems somehow appropriate.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You must be some kinda heek.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
No sir. Many say "pop" instead of "soda" though.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
That doesn't bother me
You’re just taking a different part of the name. Pronouncing ee like it’s i baffles me though.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too. For some reason I always notice when someone says pop now.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
That’s just weird. I didn’t know people did that.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I consider dinner and supper to be the same thing.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
LOL meal-skipper
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner just about every day.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
SUPPER SNOOPER
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
BRUNCH BONER
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
DINNER DOME-R
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
STEAKHOUSE SUCKER
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
I use both of them
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Any particular rhyme or reason?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I don’t know. I’ll have to pay attention next time and look for a pattern.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
It’s a “confused from living in the Mid-West” kinda thing.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Truthfully, I use lunch and dinner both. Lunch is a small meal, dinner is a big meal. Both at midday. Supper is always supper.
I’m glad we’ve cleared that up.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, at least Tim doesn't suck this year.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
the giants win more world series when he does
by haroldandsivakumar on Aug 9, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
sub 3 ERA’s are so average.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Aug 9, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't know how to win
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
CSNBA
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants have scored 16 runs
in Tim’s 8 “losses”
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Cain'd
Doesn’t know how to win.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, that's 16 runs
in Tim’s 9 starts that the team lost.
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
15 runs in his 8 "losses"
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Time to call up that Zito kid from San Jose...
/ducks
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Then it’s also worth mentioning that in 8 of 9 games the Giants lost that Tim started he took the L.
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
If it weren't for Voglesong this team would be three or four games worse.
I know the WAR math doesn’t work out, but Look at Zito. Now look at Voglesong. Now look at Zito, and back to Voglesong.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
Did the llamas tell you that?
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Here...
Somebody with more twitter ability than me take this recent SETI tweet:
More on Dark Matter: What is it? What Astronomers Observe About it… http://cot.ag/qRrukYand turn it into a #rowandfact
The infinite distance between a Rowand bat and an outside slider
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Aug 9, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rowand’s bat approaches an outslider in an asymptotic parabola.
If my life is for rent, and I don't learn to buy, then I deserve nothing more than I get, 'cause nothing I have is truly mine. - Dido Armstrong
"outside slider"
some slang I’m inventing, apparently.
If my life is for rent, and I don't learn to buy, then I deserve nothing more than I get, 'cause nothing I have is truly mine. - Dido Armstrong
giggle
chaseparker22 Like Chicago, Aaron Rowand has been on fire once #rowandfacts
by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Well then, you’re almost as funny as Jeff Sullivan.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants didn’t have to give up a top prospect for Lofton, but if they had, it would have worked out just splendidly.
FWIW, Felix Dias was #5 on their BA prospect list that year. He had a 2.70 ERA with 48k, 23bb in 60 IP as a 20 year old in AA Shreveport. The year before in low A (Sally) he’d had 56 k and 16 bb in 51 IP.
He would throw 49 innings in the majors in 2004.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Felix Diaz? Agegate victim, I thought. Did he ever make a top 100, midyear or final, pre-age change or post? I thought not.
by wcw on Aug 9, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought BBRef changed the ages retroactively on the pages of all the age-gate guys.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
It was only one year, but still my memory is of him as 22 in AA. Hold on.. yep, “His age since has been revised upward a year from 21 to 22, but he remains a coveted prospect. A righthander, he works in the mid-90s with his fastball and also uses a hard slider, a plus changeup and a curveball. He has spent 2002 at Double-A Shreveport..”: http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/020728lofton.html
But the important thing is, Wheeler is a top 100 guy, per the last midyear report top 50. Diaz wasn’t.
by wcw on Aug 9, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh absolutely. But by the same measure Kenny Lofton was no Carlos Beltran either. He was seen as a nice piece out there who could help somebody (as he did every year), not as the best bat on the market.
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Well, yeah.
And don’t give Ryan Meaux the shaft! But he wasn’t anything close to Wheeler. Nice changeup, bad health, I think.
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 9, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Video: Inside the Clubhouse: Follow the All Stars in Arizona
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17791053&topic_id=7964484&c_id=sf
Gary Brown is such a chipper fella, isn’t he?
Did I miss something? What's with the Rowand meme?
"This is almost certainly a terrible idea. But I won't know for certain until I've actually done it." — Jez from Peep Show
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Aug 9, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions
he hates SF
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He's been expelled from the state of grace

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the AJ love was a fact I didn’t need to know about him. Can I now hate him MORE?
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Aug 9, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
OT
Well, they’ve apparently cast Dolorous Edd. The guy looks all right, I guess, but he’ll probably back out at the last minute or something, knowing our luck. Or maybe they’ll just decide to cut the character. Oh well.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m sure this has been discussed in detail before, but should I go back and read the first book or does the season pretty much cover it well?
I want to start book 2 immediately!
Read the book dude! Read them all!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
You could certainly get by without reading the first book
That said, you probably should though. You get a different feel for a couple characters and some more details. Plus battle scenes.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re just such fun reads, at least GoT is. A shame to pass up. I’m loving the second time through.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d read the first book. You’ll get a better grasp of who a lot of the characters are, and it’ll introduce you to guys who will come back later who either weren’t in the show or were completely unmemorable.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
and less Roz
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
lol. Slurping bjs.
Do you think they put the boom mic directly by the actors’ mouth or were they post production sound fx?
Roz was such a weird character to add. Besides giving Theon an early scene and allowing Littlefinger an exposition scene people paid marginal attention to in order to not seem overly sex-obsessed, she didn’t do a whole lot.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
I think they thought the sexposition thing was clever, but it definitely got old by the end of the season.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Psh, whatever, I want more scenes with Pycelle’s cock.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
My attention was more than marginal. I assure you.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
TITTIES
Basically, they really liked the actress when she was in the pilot, and decided to give her more to do. Also, subject line.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh
I thought you were telling me to use a subject line and I was all “OH FUCK WHAT’D I DO NOW?”
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Martin 1 hour Interview with google
also, you’ve probably have seen this interview by google, but my friend told me about it. I’m afraid to watch because I think it’s for the fans who have read the books and I do not want any spoilers.
do your best
to avoid spoilers. Even stuff that isn’t much of a spoiler can ruin a lot, because… well, it will imply a whole bunch of intermediate facts or events.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Now dad went to last night's game
Said it was the worst game he’s ever attended and he attended Giants games during the mid-70’s.
A question for the group
Does anyone know what precipitated the #rowandfacts? Did he say something disparaging about San Francisco? Granted, I don’t need a reason to bash Rowand, but was wondering.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
JC: Thing you miss most about playing for Chicago?
Rowand: Wearing the road uniform. And you know why? Because it said ‘Chicago’ across the front. I got goose bumps every time I would put it on.
JC: Not so with San Francisco?
Rowand: [Pause] Let’s talk about the Bears again.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
This is why you're our fearless leader.
Good to know my tweets about Rowand were in fact warranted.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
More to the point
He listed A.J. Pierzynski as one of his favorite teammates.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Jose Guillen
Favorite Giants teammate.
by Drug Runner SF on Aug 9, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Now I can say with certainty that this is not true.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, just wow...
JC: Favorite Sox teammate?
Rowand: Joe [Crede] and A.J. [Pierzynski].
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
And nice post time.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand Fact
mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
Aaron Rowand still thinks the Black Sox didn’t throw the World Series. #rowandfacts
RISP, RIP

Bochy’s all like, “Holy Shit! Look at that stat…….I need to find a way to get more AB’s for Rowand and Huff.”
Big picture is big.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
“Does anybody else see that?”
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
It was one of our goals to get a lot of runners into scoring position. I think the guys
are doing a good job
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
It was one of our goals to get a lot of runners into scoring position
Only takes 3 singles…
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you are making this up.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
OKAY! SHEESH!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
OKAY!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
It’s like a Greendale mascot prototype.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I find it hilarious that the Human Being is supposed to be gender-neutral but then there’s also a female version.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
INCLUSION!!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Cannot be Green Enough
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
WEEEEE STOCKS!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
Republicans have a secret stock market
It always goes up.
…
I’ve said too much. They might pull my investments.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
At least they are honest about it unlike those other guys!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Dem secrets are boring.
“We’re giving away money to anyone who asks for it!”
“We’re bad at our jobs!”
“We suck!”
“We have sex with women of legal age!”
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Sorry to have to inform you of this
But I was just contracted to murder you. Please make your arrangements before leaving today.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he said it is rising
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
LOL What happens when the FED’s efforts don’t work anymore?
Who wants to bet the FED has been directly intervening in the stock market to keep it inflated? Most times the only reason markets go up is because of the dollar being down for the day.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 9, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
So at what point in the season is it appropriate to start growing a rally beard?
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions
I just shaved my beard off on Sunday.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Immediately after your most recent shave
Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.
by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Wolf Blitzer . . . . uncovered!!!!
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
If you insist

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh.
This team has been hard to listen to. Please play better everyone.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 9, 2011 1:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Damn
The stock market is crazier than McC’s reaction to Bochy and Sabean’s decisions.
You are on a roll today.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Don’t you work at Petco Park?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It is in my best interests to wish nothing but wonderful things to happen to the San Diego Padres. [/MLB memo]
Scott doesn't like to cheat
prefers failure the “old fashioned way”, one AB at a time
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
My avatar is still a picture of me with Wheeler
I really, really hope Beltran ends up being good.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Yeah, #bitterwheelerfans would make me laugh more if you got to use it after he hit, say, only an RBI double instead of a dinger.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Instead, I find myself using it for GIDP’s and K’s. :(
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You just reminded me
I need to change my avatar
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
I feel bad but I haven’t watched a full Giants game in about a week.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
You didn’t miss anything.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Was that Wednesday?
Seems like a distant memory.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
My mind still can't wrap it's head around the fact
That about two weeks ago the Giants looked like a nascent powerhouse in the NL.
I watched a full game last night . . .
. . . but it was silent and in the background at Trivia Night in downtown Sac.
There was nothing I really needed to hear that wasn’t in a graphic in the bottom right of the screen.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
that's funny
I’ve watched several and they’ve all made me feel bad.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve lost five pounds and revised my script and caught up on DVR’d shows. Life’s good!
Following on Gameday is now my preferred method for baseball tomfuckuppry.
Maybe my scale just sucks
But my weight will fluctuate 5 pounds within a given day. So I wouldn’t be able to tell if I lost 5 pounds.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Poop weight
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been stuck at gaining/losing poop weight for the last week.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
shitting the bed
Giants offense. 4 for 40 with RISP in the last week. Where is the news? it couldn’t have been much better the entire season. Sucky offenses usually suck.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m down 11
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 9, 2011 1:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I've gone out of my way not to watch more than 3 innings of a game.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Same here.
I just can’t do it right now. In laws are coming out and I don’t need to be a miserable person before they get here.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I went on Saturday, but otherwise haven’t watched hardly any on TV. .
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been watching them, because I am a fucking idiot.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Thank you for dinner
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This Line
it’s just too painful. I did watch/listen to all of Sunday’s Timmython. Half watched, half listened while hitting BP with my grandson in the backyard.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I'm terrified that they're facing Karstens tomorrow
Guy threw a ~78 pitch CG not too long ago. No doubt in my mind he’ll throw around a 65 pitch CGSO against this offense.
Not if Rowand-2 is in the lineup
There’s 9 pitches, just to him alone.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
12 if he leads off.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re assuming any baserunners aren’t erased by double plays.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
True
9 if he leads off and Huff is also in the LOLineup
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This is odd
But typically I remember the Giants’ June-swoon, coming in June. What rhymes with August?
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
Very good
We can now replace June-swoon with August-crap fest.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Fugh ust
welcome to the month of rage, disgust. Where is my bat and water cooler?
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A: What's happening
I have been actually working and want to know what I can do to tick off people here fast.
START HUFF AND ROWAND!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
eh
just post what you usually post.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck you Bruce.
And please stop your post game “if we could have just got that one big hit….(inadudible, mumble, mumble, mumble), we are hitting the ball hard, just sometimes…(inauduble, mumble, mumble – scratches head, squints, mumble), if we can just ….(mumble, squints, mumble)” bullshit
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff’s coming around, had some good swings.
"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny thing is I don’t mind Huff nearly as much as I do Rowand. I seriously expect him to GIDP every PA…even if there are no men on base
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I can tolerate Huff as bad as he has been
I think the reference was more attributed to Bork’s constant reference to Huff is “coming around”.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
According to this, he’s gone from red to orange!
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I won a dollar bet with my friend yesterday when I bet that Rowand would strike out on a slider when he was coming up. He promptly struck out on 3 pitches to end the suspense.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
by Tay on Aug 9, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
And Rowand had a great BP!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He can cut the ball, and he can sink the ball...
Oh, wait. That’s pitchers. Whoops!
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL #RowandFacts
@Nimreezy
Killa K
Aaron Rowand will only eat clam chowder if its served in a deep dish bread bowl. #RowandFacts
by ThePasswordisWillieMcgee on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
All I know is ......
the Giants are the most frustrating first-place team I have ever seen.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
watch them closely then
because they could be that object in the Snakes (did I just say that?) rearview mirror.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just going to leave this here...

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
don't care for the gif
but it really irks me that the Giants had a really good chance to repeat had Scott Cousins not happened.
I’m not sure if the Giants still trade for Beltran if Posey is healthy but
Torres
Keppinger/Mole
Panda
Buster
Beltran
Huff/Belt
Ross/Nate
SS
P
Would be an awesome lineup
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Huff/Belt
LOL, delusional.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Heck
even Huff would be fine in there…
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I’m pretty sure I do not want to see an animated .gif of that picture.
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Hey, I didn’t say it was mine.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It was made by a bitter Dodger fan.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants are like chocolate covered frozen bananas… I loved them unconditionally when I was a kid, but now they’re just cold and make my teeth hurt.
by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
There’s money in the banana stand.
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he's a flamer
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Your mom's a girl
Hey!
Ryan Cavan: Probably better than you think.
by ryanmiles on Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Get off the segway. You aren’t impressing anyone.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
But his bananas don’t give you cancer.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Jerry and Steve are getting the band back together!
ESPN Hires HOFer Jerry Rice As Net’s Newest NFL Analyst
ESPN has hired Pro Football HOFer Jerry Rice as an NFL analyst, with a formal announcement expected “later this week.” Rice will appear on “NFL Live,” “SportsCenter” and the new show “Audibles,” which will air weekly this fall on Thursday nights. He is “scheduled to start at ESPN on Sept. 15 and will be based on the West Coast.” Rice’s sports media experience includes co-hosting “Sports Sunday” on NBC-owned Bay Area TV station KNTV after 49ers games last season (SI.com, 8/8).
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Bummer.
I like the way Joe Montana just… disappeared. Whenever we see him now, it’s like Zeus came down from Olympus to impregnate a comely maiden.
Sorta agree
But Jerry ruined that for me with the whole Dancing With the Stars.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet Jerry Rice could hit .250.
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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright...8 hours billed!
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LOL Carlos
“"As soon as I feel I can swing the bat, I’ll be out there.” holy shit, if we waited for the other position players to feel the same way, we would have to forfeit – wouldn’t be able to field a team.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:05 PM PDT reply actions
Yes
but the Giants just send them up there to swing…making contact is an accident.
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Translation:
“Sweet Mother of God do these guys suck…I’m distancing myself from these humps until they prove they can score at least 2 runs without me.”
I wonder what Keppinger is thinking...
I thought I was traded to a winning team.
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Nice
I would to request a nonchalant Mark Reynolds as well.
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We all know that he will be a Giant in a week or two
Lyle Overbay has cleared waivers and hit free agency, according to MLB.com’s Jenifer Langosch (on Twitter). The Pirates had designated him for assignment at the end of July.
Overbay signed a one-year $5MM contract with the Pirates in the offseason, but didn’t produce as well as expected in his return to the National League. After reaching the 20 homer plateau for the second time in his career last year and posting a .243/.329/.433 line, the 34-year-old added just eight homers for Pittsburgh, posting a .227/.300/.349 line.
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Platoony toon adventure...
with Huff!
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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do I feel like the September call ups will offer no relief?
I’m envisioning the AAA prospect pitcher taking the mound for the opposition having the same success that every other pitcher has had against the Giants. It is borderline fraudulent to fill that prospect with such false hope.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:10 PM PDT reply actions
Crawford and Belt would be good.
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Hopefully they are both up before September so they can play in the play offs.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Because they won’t play.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Joe AAA Prospect Pitcher after throwing a 93 pitch CG shutout
beats chest and revels in the success against the World Champion Giants only to go on to have an extended minor league career holding on to a charade of a memory of that one day when he dominated the World Series Champs in the heat of the Giants fight for the pennant.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do I feel like the September call ups will offer no relief?
Because they would have to get playing time to provide some sort of respite from the offensive hell we have been suffering through.
/ Bork’d
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Tejada, Burrell, Zito. Yep.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
nice cape
Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Aug 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot about errant throwin.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Natto'd.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
........
McCoven #1: Can we go?
McCoven #2: No.
McCoven #1: No?
McCoven #2: We’re waiting for Natto.
McCoven #1: Oh.
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Waiting for Godot reference
impressive.
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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You, my friend, get a Rec ......
for knowing what I was talking about.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
I’ve decided to go home, close the all the blinds, and curl up in a fetal position until tomorrow.
I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.
you forgot one important ingredient ......

…….. what did you think i was going to say? lol!
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
actually
didn’t think booze from your user name
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Your mom's a girl
For a normal size image, that took forever to load.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
were you pretty surprised when it finally loaded? lol!
“This guy again ……… probably gonna be a big bud of weed ………. or a picture of a weed greenhouse in humboldt coun ………. oh, it’s a big jug of alcohol.”
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
i hear you on that one ......
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
Jorge Posada, the veteran of all veterans, the symbol of grit, an icon in Yankees Lore
was benched after hitting .230/.309/.372. The Yankees gave him a long, long rope, but finally decided enough is enough.
They are contemplating bringing up Jesus Montero to DH. Ha! A Rookie! In a Pennant race!
Meanwhile, Aubrey Huff hits 5th with .244/.300/.367, almost identical to Jorge Posada, and Brandon Belt is optioned to the minors.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Thats why Sabes left the Yankee organization.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps
but you are clearly not taking notes during batting practice. Huff will save us.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
DomingoBeisbol Domingo Ayala
how es ther a show call the franchise without Domingo? some gigantes tell me how I get a tryout.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
LOL YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It's not the last game of the series yet
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Giants offense
Together We’re Raisins In the Sun
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
i literally had a dream in the middle of the regular season last year .......
that the Giants won the Pennant. i woke up and said to myself, “Yeah right.” But then, TGWTWS.
If I’m lying, I’m dying.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
It hurts, doesn't it?
You can’t believe what fell.
All your dreams……dashed.
Hopes down the fucking drain.
Your fate is sitting right next to you

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
worst unis EVAH
next to the 2011 Snakes unis. fugging uglay
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't hate those
but I didn’t see the movie either. I mean, look at the Ducks unis then. At least they’re not teal and purple.
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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
the only good thing about that year was that they beat the Yankees.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
sorta like
good porn
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
GoT Question/Spoiler
What was Ned’s intention after Robert died? To place Stannis on the throne?
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Yeah, he would go with whatever was the “right” thing to do, which would be Stannis (next in line after Robert, Joffrey/Tommen/etc all not legitimate heirs due to you know what). That’s why he didn’t go with Renly when he asked him too (who knows what might have happened if he had!)
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Was Renly more powerful? I mean he became powerful after marrying into the Tully’s
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Renly was more charismatic.
Dewgongongong
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Shun Kakazu: MOAR JAPANESE PROSPECTS PLZ
by Zetsuboushita on Aug 9, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Not more powerful
Just prettier and more charismatic. More “King-like” as opposed to the bitter and brittle Stannis.
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Are you reading ACOK? Stannis is not exactly the most inspiring person in the entire world, nor is he much of a leader. Renly is like a younger Robert.
And Renly did not marry into the Tullys.
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Sorry
Tyrells…names are confusing.
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And
basically, at the time, Renly more or less had the entirety of Highgarden (a pretty huge part of the country) in his pocket due to his relationship with Ser Loras. Stannis didn’t have nearly as much and wasn’t likely to inspire anyone to take up arms for him.
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Tyrells*
As for more powerful, there are many ways to measure power. ;) Certainly Renly, at the end of GoT, is much better placed politically, and able to level the playing field with Stannis by making allies in a way that his brother never could.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
So
I was right in thinking that Ned would have been an awful king. Clearly Renly was the better pick to combat the Lannisters.
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Ned was never going to be the King, I’m not sure why you keep bringing that up
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I get the feeling that there was a lot of sentiment to push him to be the King…maybe I was wrong.
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well
In the north, and as an alternative to the Lannisters, yes.
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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Robert asked him to be the regent for Joffrey, but I don’t think Ned had any real claim to the throne and he wouldn’t have taken it, because in his mind, it belonged to Stannis.
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Agreed...Ned did not want it.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
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He even had a chance for it during the rebellion and he chose not to take it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Which in hindsight
was the biggest mistake of all
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At this point in the series, I have to wonder what sort of a person GRRM thinks really makes for a good King/Queen. Most of the options we’ve been given so far haven’t done very well (in some cases, like Dany, of course, they are still learning).
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Tyrion
that’s what I think GRRM thinks would be a good King.
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The harem would be spectular
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but where do whores go?
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I don't think so
he wasn’t a particularly good Hand. It’s one thing to be ruler of Icebergia, but the Seven Kingdoms are a lot to handle, and all the drama in King’s Landing was over his head, for the most part.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
When he came in as Hand, yes
But I think a lot of the problems were caused by the mismanagement by Robert, leading to the corruption and problems that Ned had problems dealing with. I don’t think he would have let things get anywhere like that, leading to things being a lot better, making it easier for him to rule.
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he was totally outclassed
by Littlefinger and Varys at almost every turn. And being unable to work with/manage them would have undone him worse yet as King than as Hand.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
GRRM;s point may be
that it doesn’t matter who is the King, because the Varys’s and Littlefingers of the world are really in charge.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
It depends on your definition of a “good ruler.” There’s a pretty awesome thread on Westeros comparing the respective rules & legacies of Ned Stark & Twyin Lannister, and I can’t talk about it with people who haven’t finished ADWD. :(
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
can you link it?
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/54288-adwd-spoilers-neds-redemption/
But I can basically sum it up with “Ned’s little girl.”
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks for not doing so
Talk about your bad choices.
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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that Ned didn’t want to be the King. Just that there was a lot of push for him to be one…even from Robert.
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No, Robert wanted him to be the Regent for Joffrey until Joffrey came of age. Robert went to his grave thinking Joffrey was his real son. I don’t remember anyone else wanting Ned to be King. Renly wanted him to join his side but he certainly wanted to be King himself.
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yup
Robert seemed to think Ned had a better skill set to be king, but never suggested anything like that. Much of that was mostly buttering up Ned to be the Hand anyway.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to say
one of the dumbest mistakes anyone made in the whole series was Robert not having any other witnesses present when he had Ned write his will.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Actually
Just pulled out my copy of GoT. Grand Maester Pycelle and Renly were both there to witness.
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right
although Renly didn’t exactly end up being useful therefor.
Maybe jp assumed the will was sealed closed. I think the seal was just under the signature.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
really? for some reason I remember them doing the whole thing alone. never mind then.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Ned was the only one in the room when the letter was actually being signed. He presented the sealed document to Renly & Pycelle afterward.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
so i was right
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yep
I mean, I don’t have the book in front of me so we could both be wrong. But I’m a giant fucking nerd so I trust me.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
my brother has my copy with him in DC right now
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ah, an RTF
Yeah, he sends everyone away but Ned.
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not to make a mountain out of a molehill
but I suppose that’s what I do best.
Anyway, the whole point of having witnesses to a signature on a will is to vouch that the decedent has signed it knowingly, and I am fairly certain that’s what GRRM is saying. The document was “sealed” in the sense that a signet ring was placed into hot wax on the signature, not literally “sealed” in the sense of an envelope. You might also be confusing these with the letter to Stannis, which was “sealed” in the sense of being closed from view.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
correct in that Renly & Pycelle saw the actual letter
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it would’ve mattered. Cersei seems to consider it authentic, and tears it up anyway.
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hahaha yeah
There is also that. I guess the only relevant thing would have been Ned managing to tell Robert about “his” children, in front of witnesses or otherwise.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think if Ned had vocalized the incest that so many in the court had known about, that might’ve made a difference. But he probably still would’ve ended up in the Black Cells.
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agreed
by the time the palace is stuffed with banners and armored knights and mercenaries, who signed what when is kinda not going to matter. Cf. Stark, Ned, outclassed.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah that's true
what really killed Ned there was writing the letter to Stannis immediately, rather than following Littlefinger’s advice
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That and the fact
that Littlefinger was a back-stabbing liar.
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He was a buyable backstabbing liar though.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
eh, doubt it
He was setting up to screw Ned from the start. Leaving aside his intentions for Catelyn (or Sansa), his whole plan depended on chaos.
I think if Ned had taken his advice, he would have just found some other way to fuck him over.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Ned was pretty much screwed from the time he decided to be the Hand
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Eventually, perhaps. But he is pragmatic above all – if Ned had given him a better deal than the Lannisters (Hand? Regent?) he would have taken it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
mebbe
I think he and Varys both wanted Ned far away from their operations.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
We don’t yet know enough about Petyr’s ultimate motive to be sure about this one, I guess; we know he wants power, and we know he thrives in chaos, and we know he wanted the kingdom destabilized. As to why…?
But I feel fairly confident in saying he had a personal reason to remove Ned Stark from the playing board; that being, Catelyn.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder what he'd think of current Catelyn
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hahaha
handy for cooling the bed in summer!
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Should have trusted the eunch!
probably not.
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that doesn't matter
that’s the point of witnessing a will, you need not see it signed, you merely need to vouch for who’s signing it, which they couldn’t do in the first place if it’s closed and sealed before they do.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned would have done his due diligence regarding the actual administration of the realm (which I think he did fine at), as a matter of honor, rather than attempt to take the crown, which made him a good candidate for Hand.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
that's arguable
Ned would have made a poor king of Westeros as it was at the time of Robert’s death. However, later events give a new perspective on Ned’s legacy and the kind of Lord Paramount he was.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned would have been a great king
If not for all the political maneuverings around him
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level?
Wasn’t it something like 4 to 1 in favor of Renly? Oh, Renly. All the looks and charisma of Robert none of the fighting acumen.
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As in, negate Stannis’s vastly superior tactical & strategic expertise by having way more dudes.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
meh
numbers have never been more important than skill and strategy in the history of warfare.
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Genghis Khan FTW!
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Who conquered due to his superior tactics vis-a-vis the countries he conquered. Do you know anything about anything?
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Maybe I’m misreading your comment…superior tactics/skill > numbers no?
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You’re creating a dichotomy that doesn’t exist. The fact that the Mongols had “numbers” (which I’m not even sure is true) is less relevant to their success than their mastery, as Kestrel says below, of a method of warfare against which China, Persia, Russia and Arabia had little defense.
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Not my statement at all…Mongol were usually numerical inferior to their opponents . But the tactics employed were awesome.
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I thought
Genghis Khan conquered cause he had archers that could shoot from horseback, something no one else had (kinda like Khal Drogo).
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He was also a master tactician…feint attacks, fake retreats, siege warfare, psychological warfare, encircling/outmanuevering his opponents, etc…
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fish gotta swim
birds gotta fly!
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Stannis, as it turned out, was much better at thinking outside the box.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
is it bad if I'm kind of team Stannis at this point?
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I wonder how aware he was of what the deal with the shadow babies was.
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I’m not sure he knows the exact details, but IMO he definitely knows that he’s responsible for Renly’s death – he implies as much to Davos when he’s sending him to row under Storm’s End.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
If he ditches the creepy lady, I'd be on board
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Stannis as a general is very highly regarded. It’s Stannis as a political leader that is problematic.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So he’s George Washington or Truman.
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Was Truman a good general? I mean Ike and MacArthur did most of the general work no?
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Harry S Truman was president of the United States.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a great comp.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
now that I'm thinking on this
I think GRRM is doing what David Simon did in The Wire. All the adults, at least, are poor choices.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Ned remind anyone else of Brutus from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar...
he tries to do the honorable thing to a fault….
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
Except Ned didn’t stab anyone in the back.
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But if it was the honorable thing to do...
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
Ned as king would have been like Jimmy Carter. Renly is Obama. Stannis is like Goerge Bush, Sr.
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what does that make Melisandre?
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Marget Thatcher.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
Who would be Calvin Coolidge?
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also
Tyrion would clearly be Clinton.
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He's one of my favorite characters...
I just started the second book.
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"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
Aegon the Unlikely
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Renly as Obama?
I don’t see it. I would put Renly more as George Bush Jr – Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, got where he was due to allies, likely to be controlled by those that ‘serve’ him (Tyrells, esp. The Queen of Thorns).
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Oh crap, I started an orgy in the champagne room.
Sorry. But to me Obama isn’t that different from GWB in those ways, but he’s way prettier.
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Fair enough
I guess I just have a different political POV :)
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Maybe, maybe not. To me, the US has become like Westeros, practically ungovernable.
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“has become”
It’s always been fractured, save for World War II and the Fifties, which were an aberration.
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True, but they’re not even trying to hide it anymore.
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Not enough communists now
need Cobra Commander to appear and united the nation.
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The faultlines dividing the United States have existed since the founding of the colonies. They only recur in various permutations; they never go away.
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I wonder: do these people think they are the first ones to come up with this idea?
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
In his defense… Brooks did start to say something like “Now hold on, where were you last year when the Giants were hitting all those homeruns in September? Were you calling in saying the hitting coach deserves a raise???” I missed the rest cuz by then I’d turned it off.
Most of the hosts defend Bam-Bam. He’s not the one out there hitting.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
Let's be fair
Bam Bam is not the one hitting. However, when a team isn’t hitting, something has to change. A hitting coach CAN and SHOULD make a difference. Look no further than the D’bags wretched pre-season roster and see what Baylor has done with their hitters – mostly, Young and Upton. The D’bags hitters are effin’ scared straight to try to do “things their own way” – can you imagine coming back to the dugout after striking out on three pitches EVERY time and having to look at Matt Williams, Kirk Gibson and Don Baylor?? three of the more intense players in their day. I believe the Giants have considerable more talent than the Snakes yet here we are.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
OK - "Every time" is an exaggeration
but holy jumping fuck, why does it seem like Rowand & Andres fall into this category (and at times, Huff and Cody)? Way too many ABs without challenging the pitcher.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
BamBam defends himself:
The issue here is not whether we broke a few bats, or took a few liberties with our runners on base; we did. (winks) But you can’t hold a whole team responsible for the behavior of a few hacking goofballs. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole team system? And if the whole team system is guilty, then isn’t this an indictment of our coaching staff in general? (the other coaches cheer; BamBam addresses the original poster directly) I put it to you, Myemail21479 Isn’t this an indictment of our entire American society? (the coaches cheer again) Well, you can do what you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you bad-mouth the United States of America! Gentlemen!
(BamBam packs his lunchbox and leaves the room; the other coaches follow, humming "The Star-Spangled Banner")
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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Young and Upton were already good. I don’t think you can credit either of them to the hitting coach.
need to rewind
Upton and Young (in particular Young) a train wreck before Baylor arrived. Undisciplined, free swinging, etc. When asked, Upton and Young credit Baylor.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s fair to fire someone because a bunch of fans think correlation = causation. There is also not one thing in your post that is a persuasive indictment of the Giants’ hitting coach. I mean, what, he’s not scary enough? I don’t get it.
I don’t have enough information to make this call. I don’t know what he’s doing. I don’t know what he’s not doing. I don’t know what they’re ignoring that he’s telling them. Maybe they’d be even worse without him. None of us know. If there’s a hitting coach who can make Orlando Cabrera, Aubrey Huff and Aaron Rowand into good hitters, by all means, get him in there. I just seriously doubt it.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Beltran
It is easy to say now, but I think that when Posey and Sanchez were lost for the season, with Huff regressed, with Burrell non-existant, with Tejada/Crawford at SS, and with the reality that the Braves, Phillies, Yankees, and Red Sox are all demonstrably better teams, that it was a mistake to trade the top prospect in a very weak system for 2 months of a very good hitter who is prone to injury. Yes, I realize the window of great pitching is going to close, but if I were making the decisions, I would have put aside the fantasy of repeating as World Series Champs, and I would have aimed toward 2012 knowing that Posey and Sanchez would return, as would all of the major pitching pieces. I would hope for a significant contribution from Brandon Belt. I would then concentrate on finding an acceptable option at SS and on upgrading a corner OF spot in the offseason. I would take Aaron Rowand and Barry Zito and put them in a canoe. I would give Aubrey Huff an ultimatum to show up at ST in good shape and tell him that he has exactly one month to demonstrate that he is a better hitter than Marvin Benard.
I disagree
Beltran was supposed to the catalyst i.e. Buster. He was to help pick up a struggling lineup. The pickup was a risk but a good risk. I wouldn’t blame Sabean for make the gamble.
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Pipe-dream. Posey is/was too important. There are simply too many holes to fill on this shit-bag of an offense, and Beltran does not address the fact that they have 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th place hitters consisting of Aubrey Huff, Orlando Cabrera, Rowand/Nate/Ross, and Eli Whiteside
Pre-Posey Giants was pretty bad.
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Make it hapn capn
best laid plans say “sit tight and play for next year”. The problem with that is that injuries are impossible to predict and there is no telling where we will be next year – on paper, we should challenge for the Division Title once again. But when the opportunity is so close to your nose that you can lick it, you better get busy and bury your face. That is what the Giants did and it was the right move.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
But when the opportunity is so close to your nose that you can lick it, you better get busy and bury your face.
Somewhere some drunk bachelor is having this exact thought at a strip club and will spend the night in jail…
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Yeah
this was a horrid trade, I cannot believe the McCoven hive has bought into it. The team’s chances of a repeat were improved by so little with the addition of Beltran that it makes no sense at all.
The only reason I can see that it was done is for the appearance of making of effort by Sabean even though it has been clear for months that this team has little chance of repeating.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess it was ridiculous for Sabean to add the best available bat during the trade deadline for a team that had the 2nd best record in the NL and was struggling offensively…utterly ridiculous.
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I go back and forth on this.
If they think this ups their chances of re-signing him, I’m ok with the deal because then it does make the 2012 team much better.
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Do you think they can afford him with $46MM on the books for Row, Zito, and Huff? And do you think they should resign him for what is bound to be a lot of $$ given his age and durability?
This
it’s just a matter of years. I think Giants would be fine with 2/25-30 million.
Sabean’s new MO seems to be no longterm contracts.
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I doubt Sabean will go for three guaranteed years…club/mutual option 3rd
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I doubt Boras will accept less than 3 years.
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yeah, couple triples already
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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
but
he’s now been tainted with DeRosacea.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, but
what about the “Zito Discount” from Boras? It is hard to belly up to the table when the fucking hurricane is still destroying the beach house. Fuck you Scott Boras and fuck your free agents. (I know this is irrational, but that is what the last two weeks has done to me).
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff got 2/22 so don’t you think the starting point will be 2/30 and in reality it will be 2/35 which means that the payroll is at $63MM with just Rowand, Zito, Huff, and Beltran.
But Rowand comes off the books in 2013 and will likely get trade or DFA next year
Huff will be done the year after.
Zito has a way to go though…
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Sure but they have money to spend right now…even more money if the Giants make it to the playoffs.
Also no Miggy…long term commitments are what really kills a team.
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but if they resign Beltran, the payroll burden of Zito, Rowand, Huff, and Betran will be at least $63MM in 2012.
Yup…but again…Giants won with a payroll in the 60 million range (excluding Rowand, Zito, Renteria). Beltran will just be the extra money from the playoffs.
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Oh God
Now THAT is a foundation we can build upon. "Let’s bring up the prospects and show them how Major League Baseball is played the “GIANT WAY”"
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a little unfair
If memory serves me, Huff actually got an offer from another team that he gave the Giants right of first refusal. It was actually real nice of him…
Also 11 million is about 2.5 WAR…he also got that money in part because of the 3rd year would be a club option.
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This is why you play the games
Nobody knows how the Giants would hit after the trading deadline. All you can do is to give yourself a chance. That risk is the cost of doing business.
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Giants should have traded their entire farm system for Hunter Pence
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I just think too much emphasis was placed on repeating. I understand the pitching window was narrow, but why not just reconcile that this year was lost and put all the resources toward 2012?
Because this is baseball. Anything can happen in baseball when you get into the playoffs. And the division is so so winnable.
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Yes. That’s why they didn’t trade for Hunter Pence.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Well, consider last August/September. The pitching staff went like three weeks without giving up more than 3 runs in a game. A league average offense (which isn’t what we have at this moment) can seriously contend with that pitching.
by Duelling Brandos on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
you take your chances when you can. There is no guarantees as to how this team will be this year. Giants have been really lucky with the health of their pitchers and the emergence of Vogelsong.
Beltran was more for the post-season…no one thought that Giants were going to suck so badly this last week.
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They have a run differential of -12 which gives them an exp record of 56-60 and would put them at 18/30 teams in MLB. The question is not why they have sucked for a week. It is how have they not sucked all year?
If I recall Owlcroft’s analysis properly, the Giants were within a few games of projected.
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mince comes from the current ESPN.com site which says:
*ExW-L and ExWP are derived from Bill James’ Pythagorean theorem of baseball: Runs scored [squared] / (Runs scored [squared] + runs allowed [squared]). This formula was designed to relate a team’s runs scored and runs allowed to its won-lost record.
Owlcroft's system says the Giants have scored fewer runs than they should have.
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Most systems agree. For the amount of hits/runners/extra base hits/etc we’ve had, we’ve scored way less runs than expected. This can be explained mostly by how poorly we’ve hit w/ RISP.
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so maybe there’s something to this clutchiness that I’ve been hearing about.
/strawhats
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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
/claims ribeyes
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Our BABiP in those situations is crazy low.
I’d lean toward the bad luck side, but still wouldn’t expect it to improve too much.
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Nope
The ideal is to work towards getting in the playoffs for a number of years consecutively.
You have to balance the needs of the present and the future. Developing your own, cost controlled, talent is very important. Emptying the farm might increase your chances somewhat this year, but it also guarantees famine in upcoming years. One has to be judicious. I think Cabrera is the move I regret.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's the combination of value lost & value returned
Giving up Neal for a possible stretch piece, I can take. Giving up something for Orlando Cabrera, I could live with. But put together it leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
fair enough… but in a year, we will not remember either one of those tastes. but if wheeler develops into a front line starter….
It’s a risk worth taking. Also Dick Tidrow.
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I'll say it again
no one here knows exactly what Tidrow thinks of Wheeler. It is pure speculation from some wording from Sabean who has a vested interest in making it appear that the trade was blessed by his minions.
It seems I deal better the struggles of defensively gifted youngsters that at least have some hope of improvement (Crawford) than with aging vets that other teams have already decided no longer can play SS every day (Cabrera). In that light, giving up anything – even the wan hope of a future cheap fourth outfielder – makes me unhappy.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Close call
I was against trading Wheeler for Beltran. But I understand why they did it. They have a chance to repeat. The last time that happened was in ’55.
Here is the thing: If the Giants make the playoffs anything can happen. We all know that over 162 games the Giants were no where near as good a team as the Phillies last year. But that didn’t matter.
The key is to get in. Then maybe lightning strikes twice. Beltran increased the odds significantly of winning the division.
This
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From a business standpoint, you can’t punt a season when you’re in first place. People aren’t going to want the product you’re selling if you do that.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I am not advocating that they stop playing. I was just saying that the cost of Beltran was high for what I perceive to be a small chance of radically improving the team. I am not sure the team is that much better than if they had kept Wheeler and made Brandon Belt the starting LF.
Yep
One player in two months just isn’t going to improve your odds that much. I would think the stat heads here would understand that.
Having a better hitter in the lineup during the playoffs might come in handy.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Cleanup Huff is cleaning up
JaymeeSireCSN Jaymee Sire
#sfgiants lineup tonight…no Beltran: Torres cf Keppinger 2b Sandoval 3b Huff 1b Schierholtz rf Cabrera ss Ross lf Stewart c Bumgarner p
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who cares
there won’t be any.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's look at the optimized lineup for the June 12 game
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN201106120.shtml
1. Andres Torres CF
2. Cody Ross LF
3. Brandon Crawford SS
4. Jonathan Sanchez P
5. Nate Schierholtz RF
6. Aubrey Huff 1B
7. Miguel Tejada 3B
8. Chris Stewart C
9. Emmanuel Burriss 2B
That lineup would score a whopping 3.373 runs a game. If you click the link, you can see that almost all the worst lineups have Sanchez batting ninth.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Just setting up the ol' 4-6-3
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Huff actually doesn't hit it hard enough to GiDP that often.
It normally just turns into a good ol’ fashioned 4-3.
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True he doesn't hit it hard enough
But he makes up for it by running slow enough.
I meant the runner on first will beat a throw to 2nd and they will only make the out at first.
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No Rowand
O frabjous day!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
His vorpal blade needed a rest from snicker-snacking at sliders in the dirt
Giants baseball: We'll take it.
Don't think Rowand's blade is anywhere near vorpal.
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"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Caloo Callay!!
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
At least no Rowand.
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I also like Torres being in the lineup two days in a row.
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I was all set for a KeppinHobbit platoon….
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Cannot wait for .......
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
Is this real?
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
yes it is.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
I thought Fili and Kili were twins…they were always my favs.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
They weren’t twins.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Hrm...maybe it's my memory being warped by the cartoon.
They’re related to Thorin, right?
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
Awesome
I need to find my copy of the Hobbit again
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The new Bill Hall
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Beltran is broken
And Ross instead of Nads because of small sample success against Old McDonald is as predicted.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Fine. Whatever.
I’m numb at this point. I could read that McCovey & Mays were suiting up and I would be like, “Meh. At least they’re not Rowand.”
I too teared up when Rowand got his standing o in Chicago
during the Bears game. I was crying because he no longer was with the White Sox and instead was and is f*****G up right and left in SF.
Did anyone see this?
Big Time Timmy Jim’s fan contest.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
IDK about you,
but that’s the first thing I would go for.
by fishmicmuffin on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
what you don't see ......
is the mob of tweens chasing the rioters.
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Mom

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
Allow me to be the first (of many) to rec this.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
/allows it
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by Montreal Giants Fan on Aug 9, 2011 3:16 PM PDT reply actions
Oh man
This tetanus shot I got yesterday is killing me. My arm where I got the shot is sore and I’m really fatigued, like I"m getting close to being sick.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
Now there's a tagline!
"All right pie, I'm just going to do this. [chomp, chomp] And if you get eaten, it's your own fault."
Giants baseball: it's marginally better than tetanus
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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
But when I watch it my jaws lock in rage.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
a professor of mine in medical school used to describe walking through the tetanus wards in vietnam during the war. If they let the door slam too hard, the entire room full of patients would develop tetany (they would stiffen like a board).
could be on to something
“if stiffy lasts more than 4 hours, please call your doctor”
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I would assume so
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Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
A doctor once described dying from tetanus to me. It sounded like the worst death imaginable.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
I was researching it after cutting my hand
It does not look good at all
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Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
I got one this morning
Hopefully I don’t experience the same thing, although I’ve been mentally preparing for it.
I was prepared for a sore arm
But then it got worse today. And I didn’t expect the fatigue
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Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
I just looked over the ASOIAF sub-thread
and realized that I am a massive dork.
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the best kind
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
A line from a Childish Gambino (aka Donald Glover) song
that I think is very appropriate:
“Hov-y with glasses, Weezy but geeky.”
Could apply to most of the McCoven I think
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NO U!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
............. uhhhh ..............
/ washes eyes out with soap.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."
it's amazing how terrible our offense is.
We have a shitty Catcher, 1b, SS, CF and the Pitcher can never hit.
So that leaves 4 average to good offensive players in Beltran, Sandoval, Keppinger and Nate.
I don’t understand how Belt is not being played over Huff.
by Anonymous1337 on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Question
is Beltran living up to the criticism he received in New York about not always playing when he could have? If any team needs a bat in the lineup, it’s this team. A strain on the back of the hand seems flimsy, I would like to see him try it out.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions
But the criticism is not legit
He carried both the Mets and the Astros to the playoffs and hit .366/.485/.817 in 4 postseason series (101 PAs)
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seriously?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He’s a shellfish player. They tried to warn us.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
He could even be the pearl of our organization.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I’m holding out for September’s scallops.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Especially if Crawdad doesn't play.
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this would warm my cockles
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Beltran sits out two games and already he’s anemone?
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by Woody'sShed on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The doctor said to take two aspirin and calamari in the morning.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
It takes a real manta admit he needs a couple days off.
"All right pie, I'm just going to do this. [chomp, chomp] And if you get eaten, it's your own fault."
He's really crabby too.
"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson
"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
We already have one Flappy wrist taking up a roster spot
Why take the chance getting two?
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Aug 9, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
For sucking, or for saying bad things about SF?
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
No…he stated that it was not his intent and bashing Schulman
He wish he could play 162 games and bat 4th or 5th in the lineup.
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He's pretty good at riding the pine.
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I love how the team was all, “Aaron, for your punishment, you have to go on KNBR.” Is he being “interviewed” by Ralph? That would be even funnier.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
indeed what happened
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
If you accept the fact that he is a-hole.
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Once you accept that, he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll meet.
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Once you accept the fact that Rowand is a shitty hitter, batting him leadoff every game is a helluva good idea.
Actually, batting him leadoff has proved less damaging than batting him lower where he can stop rallies in their tracks.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
I admit I did not see last night’s game, but didn’t Rowand GIDP twice with 2 men on base? Or was that Cabrera?
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
No, you’re right. I was just being snarky. And a little sad that nowadays we have to consider 2 men on base a rally.
But isn’t it? Especially with <2 outs.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
Well, yes. But today we would be thrilled with even getting one of those guys home. The bar has been lowered.
At least the hobbits can now easily get a drink.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually
liked that little interchange.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
what did Rowy say
about “context”? I came in halfway through, when he was bashing Schulman. He kept saying it was taken out of context, so I was wondering what the context was.
I think it’s cool he attempted to respond.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be just like Boras to tell Beltran to shut it down.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:45 PM PDT reply actions
No, it wouldn’t.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"wait three days after you start to feel better
let the anemic Giants offense extend their 4 for 40 with RISP, let them watch Huff in the 4 hole continue to fail, then they will appreciate you even more"
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No
because the Giants would have no interest in signing him then.
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He knows the Giants won't re-sign him.
Not to question Beltran’s integrity but he is “auditioning” after all.
I disagree
I think he’s auditioning…especially if he shows any injury risk at all.
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I bet he’s thinking that, at the end of the season, GMs will forget him taking some injury time off more easily than they would forget him sucking because of it.
actually
I’m agreeing with you…misread.
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I'm more of this opinion
Boras knows Beltran will not be a Giant next year because Sabes will go down the path of a heavier loaded 2 year agreement and Boras won’t be completely satisfied unless he gets Carlos a contract in the 4-5 year range. The dude has already spent a fair amount of time being “broken” in New York. I don’t see a 2 year contract being an option for Boras and he knows it.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I know a lot of people dislike Boras
but he hasn’t done anything bad per se…he just does his job very well.
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I understand you don't like Boras
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I don't like Boras taking advantage of our overmatched GM.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
?
Other than Zito (who was a Magowan signing) which other Boras client has Sabean signed?
Also, see Alex Rodriguez, JD Drew, Andruw Jones, Soriano, Dice-K…
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thanks for making my point
I didn’t say Sabes was in line by himself, he is in very good company. We just don’t have the “let’s get fucked by Scott Boras” margin, like the Yankees and Red Sox have.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
But my original point was that Sabean hasn’t really been overmatched by Boras.
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correct
oh for a gigantic 1. a $126 million mistake, never mind me, I will just sweep it under the rug and maybe nobody will notice. Oh for fuck sakes, there is no more room under the rug….somebody has already swept Scott and Aubrey there.
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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoops, Rowand just said “shit storm” on the radio.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Shouldn’t he be taking BP?
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He’s too busy complaining about Schulman.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
does it help?
I hear he always has good swings in BP
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish Razor would ask him
whether he intends on returning any of his salary?
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Ralph just told him that people will remember him as “always being a gamer.”
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
No one uses the Internets!
Just twitter.
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I still don't get it
All Schulman did was to retweet the Q&A…it’s not like Schulman revealed something off the record.
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Linked to, not retweeted.
https://twitter.com/#!/hankschulman/status/100811200178298880
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Grr
https://twitter.com/hankschulman/status/100811200178298880
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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He tweeted:
Did not get to ask Rowand about interview in which he disses S.F. We’ll ask tomorrow. Read to bottom. Here’s the link: bit.ly/oEoPS1.
[My emphasis.]
I think that’s what Rowand is talking about.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess
but the interview is pretty obvious.
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I’m pretty sure that, without that commentary, the shit storm would have happened anyway. But, that’s Rowand’s beef. Maybe it’s silly, but Schulman did, in fact, state that Rowand dissed SF. Rowand clearly thinks that no one would have thought that without Schulman’s tweet.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t know about Schulman’s addition but he’s just lashing out.
I’m pretty sure he doesn’t like it in SF for fairly obvious reasons.
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Which is why I said:
I’m pretty sure that, without that commentary, the shit storm would have happened anyway.
Apparently some other SF Chron writer wrote on the Splash blog about it, and he thinks that Rowand got confused and thought it was Schulman. But, that writer didn’t really say much except to quote the last part of the article.
Here’s the info:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/detail?entry_id=95011
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
But
did Rowand diss SF or not? Perhaps this is the problem.
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To me there is some slight there
Because it said ‘Chicago’ across the front. I got goose bumps every time I would put it on.
JC: Not so with San Francisco?
Rowand: [Pause] Let’s talk about the Bears again.
He’s not even from Chicago (he’s from Oregon)…He could have said something there but didn’t.
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As a self-hating, possibly in-the-closet Oregonian, maybe showing San Francisco pride in front of his butch Chicago buddies makes him uncomfortable.
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He should probably stop waving his bat like a wang every time he bats, then.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he stopped himself from saying “Way better” or “doesn’t even compare”.
It was an amusing little mix-up, but I’m not going to harp on it.
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Yes, and I thought that I was explaining that Rowand’s beef is that Schulman said that he dissed SF when he did not.
CalBear949 thought that Schulman did not render an opinion on the article. He did, in that tweet. That’s why I posted that tweet with the bold. To show why Rowand was mad at Schulman.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If someone calls that a “diss”, I wouldn’t challenge them on it, but that’s not how I would characterize it.
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I missed Rowand’s explanation for his comments (which Henry should have apparently asked him about before starting the “shit storm”). Was it helpful? T
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He said something along the lines of he is from Chicago
the first team he played for was Chicago, he rooted for Chicago teams, so he felt a point of pride wearing Chicago unis.
Then they asked him a SF question in the middle of an interview about Chicago teams, so he was thrown off.
I guess I did hear some of it. Hm. Doesn’t sound that persuasive, but I think I’m over it anyway. I feel like he more or less apologized. He also said that if he has to wear it from the fans tonight, he will and that’s part of the game.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
he didn’t have to say anything.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
But
he’s not from Chicago…he was born in Portland, went to HS in Glendora, went to Cal State Fullerton.
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Just like TL2, who grew up a bears fan in AL!
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
he's not from chicago...
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Shitstorm Stir-up
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
And he's out.
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No
Just recounting Rowand’s departure from KNBR.
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So, why not watch the A's game, starting now.
Against mighty Toronto, picked by many to compete in the East.
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last 28 days: 80 PAs…222/.363/.381
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True
I’m just wondering if he’s injured, hit a slump, or have pitchers kinda of figured him out.
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elk was one of those, right?
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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Going, going, gone.
Heading to Caltrain now, and I won’t be able to see any additional posts. So, perhaps next time.
by biff pocoroba on Aug 9, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that as well
Yet Schulman is going on KNBR to talk about the issue.
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Haha!
Speaking of “Friend of Lasorda”, though,
They’re coming out with a film about Glenn Burke.
Shoot, I can’t find the link.
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rec'd
and hopefully one of you losers is already hard at work to provide words and music.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I ran down to McCovey cove but the Lasorda caught me there
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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ralph and Tom have no idea what's going on.
They now think Schulman didn’t write anything about Rowand.
Again....
Update from Mark Smoyer:
A Chronicle colleague has told me that Aaron Rowand recently spoke on KNBR about the Q&A noted below and that he felt Henry Schulman was responsible for this post. I want to be clear that Schulman had nothing to do with it.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/detail?entry_id=95011
hahaha
So, there’s Jenkins’ Zitogate, and the CSN Burrell twittergate…
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
The lineup looks a lot better with him in it
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Apparently Bochy said that Burrell is flying out tomorrow to somewhere (Urban’s tweet is really lacking in detail) to get another opinion on his injury. Not close to a return.
If they’re faking the DL stint, they’re really going overboard.
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Research Triangle!
They can rebuild him!
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks! Geez Urban.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
What
no Dr. Andrews?
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And Freddy
and 2010 Huff and Torres
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I don't think Rowand meant ill, but I enjoyed the #Rowandfacts tweeting all the same
Also, I hate Rowand for reasons altogether unrelated to his feelings about Chicago.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst part about this slump is that it shows no signs of ending soon
4 games at Atlanta means three can probably be written off, the Marlins series is troubling, and if the Giants lose the series to the Pirates of all teams, then God help us all, because the Astros bullpen could probably shut down this lineup.
It’s just really hard to see any quick fix to make to this offense unless Bochy quits being so stubborn with Huff and lets Belt play. That would at least give the team 5 reliable hitters.
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run Dingers.exe
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Awesome
Glad you caught that. The drive software has been updated a couple of times since the rovers landed on Mars. Heh
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The commands were sent today
It should be there already.
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It is a 14 mile wide crater called Endeavour
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More from Hank
hankschulman Henry Schulman
I did not have Rowand’s number till he texted me this morning to yell at me. This is all I did last night: after hearing from a number….
3 minutes agohankschulman Henry Schulman
…. of Tweeps about the Cowley article, which I didn’t know about it, I issued on Tweet that said I didn’t get a chance to ask Rowand…
2 minutes ago
"hankschulman Henry Schulman
…. About the story. And that we’ll ask tomorrow. The one thing I did say to Rowand today was, if I had it to do over, I would have said…
1 minute ago
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…. The article “made it sound like he was dissing SF,” rather than he DID dis SF. This Twitter reporting is new and evolving. But fact is.
… no educated person could read that article and NOT conclude he was taking a shot at SF. If he wasn’t, his real beef is with Cowley.
Ha-ha – all you monkeys who don’t think he was dissing SF aren’t educated!
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Someone said the other day
Twitter will be Schulman’s demise. This is becoming more and more true
"For science. You monster."
To me it was obvious that he was slighting SF, but I’m not going to tell somebody that they’re stupid for interpreting it differently.
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He seems very confrontational
Which is fine if you’re on the other side of it, I suppose. Not sure how great an idea it is for a reporter.
lol
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
OO OOO AAAH AAAH
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
lol NERB! Its not me its him!!
Kickham where it hurts
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I want to see those texts!
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Slow-lina had his WS ring mailed to him
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#Rangers just gave Bengie Molina his AL championship ring. Molina said the Giants mailed him a World Series ring a few weeks ago.
Hope it was sent postage-due.
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Sent at Molina-speed
"All right pie, I'm just going to do this. [chomp, chomp] And if you get eaten, it's your own fault."
sweet
hopefully postage due.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Carlos Beltran could hit .500 for the next 2 months
and he still would not have been worth Wheeler. I’m not sure why everyone seems to think that Beltran getting a few more hits a week is going to make this horrid trade any better.
I suggest you re-read all the trade reaction threads and search "Beltran Wheeler" in the search box,
because it’s pretty clear why “everyone” seems to think that the trade was good for the Giants.
my apologies
I do realize not everyone was for the trade, I guess it just feels that way.
It’s fair to say there wasn’t a huge uprising against it….
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
For myself, I liked getting Beltran but wasn’t happy about the price. Mostly I’m just sad that a trade makes me want a player I like (Wheeler) to not pan out so I don’t feel bad about it.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You might be surprised to find
That many people are waiting to evaluate the trade until after the season ends.
I don't agree
What will the end of the season tell you? Do you think the Giants are going to repeat because of Beltran?
This is the sort of thinking that I believe led Sabean down this miserable fork in the road.
If Beltran hits .500
for the next 2+ months, there’s a pretty good shot we can win the World Series which would be worth a couple of Wheelers.
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That's my point though
even if here were to hit .500 (which is highly unlikely) it still would not ensure anything. Hell, I don’t know if it even makes it much more likely of even making the playoffs.
Remember those mid-2000 teams with Bonds?
If you’re looking to ensure success (which is, of course, impossibile), pinning your hopes on the development of a 20-year-old with inconsistant control in A+ ball isn’t really the way to go.
by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I couldn't find the link
but there was a great analysis of the potential future of Wheeler…the best upside was Ubaldo but everyone else listed was completely unimpressive
.
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You are missing the point
The benefit of Beltran for 2 months vs the potential control of a decent pitching prospect isn’t even close in my opinion.
No…your perceived value of Wheeler is driving this view.
Let’s see how many pitching prospects the Giants have traded and have done something in the MLB? Not many…if Beltran can do what he did for the Mets and Astros…it will be well worth it.
Again, the dude has a slash line of 366/.485/.817 in 101 playoff PAs
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No. I get your point. I just think you’re making a pretty big assumption about Wheeler’s future.
by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
not really
even if Wheeler never makes the majors I think this was a bad deal because of the potential that is there and the control of him for several years.
Also, don’t forget the potential for using him in a trade where you actually got a player in return under contract for more than 2 months.
It’s the rental bit that gets me. Especially if he’s going to be injured for part of the rental period!
The injury part is killing me. I feel like the Giants had a lot of things go their way last year, and this year is the exact opposite.
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I am vaguely of this mindset
but my thing is: if Wheeler was the price, maybe that could have been spent earlier, or maybe him + others bring someone better at SS, or Cabrera and a C, or whatnot.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You rather trade Wheeler for a backup C or an above average SS than for Beltran?
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For a decent SS under team control next year
a resounding YES over this Beltran rental.
Like who?
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I think you would find most people agree with you, if that were the choice to be made.
by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
read please
both. And on June 1. Or Beltran on June 1.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I have the impression that if we’d put Wheeler on the table that early, the other team would’ve spent a lot of time getting us to up the price, or shopping that offer around to other teams.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
we'll never know
it’s possible he could have generated other offers from interested teams not including Beltran, too.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
If we got Beltran for Wheeler, why do you think we’d only get a backup C? I mean, he’d have to be worse than Stewart or Whitey to be a backup at this point, and that’d be terribad.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I guess I just think:
1. The chances of him (or any) kid being an impact pitcher are incredibly slim.
2. Since he was still a good 2-3 years from contributing (if he can get a handle on his control) I have a bit of faith that, with a couple overslot deals and a half-dozen IFAs, his slot in the pipeline will likely be filled by next season.
I get feeling like it was an overpay. That’s fine. The market apparently disagreed. The fact that he’s a rental sucks. We can all agree about that. But he was the best bat on the market and we’re a team that needs offense for the next two months more than we need it next season presuming Posey and Franchez heal and Belt develops.
I understand you hate rentals, so I’m curious, would you rather have Pence for the price of Wheeler and Brown?
by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
No
I’d rather have Belt getting some playing time and see what happens.
I should also say that I’ve felt for awhile now that this year was toast and the focus should be on next year.
Well, Belt is a different issue all together.
And I’m going to have a hard time understanding how a season can be toast when your team is in first more than 2/3 of the way into the season and you have this pitching staff.
by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
without picking sides here…
do you believe that the offense is struggling, or that this is what we’ll see the final 7 weeks?
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Both?
Basically, I expect players to deliver their career line or close to it. I think that’s what you have to plan for. That wouldn’t give them a great offense, but it would be better than recent results. Would that be enough? Maybe.
At the moment, on balance, they are underperforming. Will they continue to do so? No idea.
by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Do I enjoy asking myself questions? Apparently.
by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Do I enjoy answering them? Yes, most certainly.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Ho Beltran does has zero bearing on whether this trade is good or not
The only thing that matters when looked at in retrospect is how Wheeler does. If Wheeler reaches his ceiling, nothing Beltran does will justify this trade.
If Wheeler does not becomes a front line starter or is converted to a reliever, nobody would care.
It only matters what Wheeler does, it’s never about how Beltran does.
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
HO BELTRAN!
wow.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
BLOGS SAYS BELTRAN HAS LOOSE MORALS!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Wonder who his pimp is
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HO BELTRAN!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
OH BELTRAN = TAHL BONER
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
HO TRAIN!
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
silly you.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
The best analogy I can give you is from my other decades old passion of playing poker
Just because a bad play ends up winning the pot for you doesn’t magically turn it into a good play.
Unfortunately for many players, they never learn this lesson and are forever losers always chasing that next big pot with bad plays.
instead of saying “other players”, you could just say Bochy
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
TINSTAAPP
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I see this is a reason to hold on to pitching prospects – you never know which one will pan out and it’s best to have a bevy.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I am TEAM SCHULMAN
because I refuse to be TEAM ROWAND?
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
and yet again
the mystery of turdburger vs. crap sandwich appears.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh come on
@MLB
MLB
Is mid-air planking a thing? Because we’re pretty sure Mark Reynolds just did it … http://atmlb.com/ph23Rj
"For science. You monster."
Reynolds doesn't care what you think
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I thought he was a butcher
at third. Apparently not.
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As if planking weren’t stupid enough already, they go one step further and misunderstand it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Waiting for the owling reference
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I don't get planking
But the answer is no (but that was a great stop)
Mark Reynolds doesn't care about planking
by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
You, my friend, are a genius.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
kick it imo
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I wonder if Belt has ever considered light jogging
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by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT reply actions
We, as a group, can't even agree on lunch or Star Wars or pie
And yet we all apparently think the same way all the time about player transactions.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:21 PM PDT reply actions
Will...it depends on what Jponry thinks
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who doesn't think the same way about pie?
Obviously cake is better
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/flagged
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Paul F. Tompkins agrees with you.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Aug 9, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Old ones= good, new ones= bad.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
There’s a difference though… I mean if you saw Star Wars in the theater, back in 1977 when it first came out you are going to have a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different impression of it than some young whippersnapper who saw it for the first time in 2003 on their hi-def tv.
I don't disagree
but I do think even young whippersnappers today get a pretty big kick out of Star Wars.
Did you see the Deadspin article that compared HP and SW?
WWRWD?
RRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAARRRR
/star destroyer blasts onto screen, warping mind forever after
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody actually disagrees with this, do they? The only good things about the new ones are: Natalie Portman (always hot), and Mace Windu’s purple light saber.
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I don’t find Natalie Portman attractive, just like I don’t find 12 year old boys attractive.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Bondage Natalie in the cottage by the lake was HAWT
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
well of course
she’s the only refugee in history to escape to the Outer Rim with 4,000 changes of clothes.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
hehehehehehe you said outer rim hehehehehehehehehe
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I’ve never looked at her ears.
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Recessive!
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by Murray, Present on Aug 9, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You looks incredible in that little black dress, but what's up with those earlobes? I'll pass
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
earrings can be SUCH a turnoff
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody actually disagrees with this, do they?
Anytime someone says this around here, I feel like there ought to be a big neon sign pointing toward calbear jd 949.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
HAHA!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
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rec'd for truthiness
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I AGREE WITH LARS
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants Baseball: Together, We’re Monolith.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Don't know if anybody has discussed this in the 4324 posts today. . .
But have we talked about Bochy’s comments from after the game last night? In addition to the “lost mojo” statement, he said something about “they just have to get it done.” Definitely not a “we just have to get it done.” Sounded kind of like he was distancing himself a bit from the clusterfuck on the field.
Anybody else? Or am I just looking for ways to hate Bochy even more (now that I’ve maximized my Rowand hate, I need to diversify a bit).
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I think it’s probably the last bit. ;-)
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Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
IS NOT!
Actually, it just stood out to me because it started of as “WE need to find our mojo” then moved on to “THEY have to get it done.” He’s not wrong – the guys have to get it done. But Bochy is the guy who decides who to play where, so it seemed odd to lay the offensive futility solely on the players that way.
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I would imagine he said
THEY have to get it done as Bochy doesn’t play.
I was mostly teasing you, but I also think you’re searching for something that might not be there. He has probably said “they” a million times in reference to the hitters.
I think you have plenty of other opportunities to maximize your Bochy hate, anyway. Or you could jump on the FIRE BAM BAM bandwagon. You’d have to start calling into KNBR, probably, though.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I know.
Bochy is still an ass, though, right?
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He’s the nicest guy on the planet, for reals (and, actually, a lot smarter than people give him credit for — no, really!). So, I won’t call him an ass. But, his lineup construction and refusal to play anyone under 47 is really starting to piss me off.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think so.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
DAMMIT
I can still not care for his managerial abilities, then, right?
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YES!
Well, only as it relates to the offense.
(Haha, I love you, but this is way too fun.)
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU DON'T WIN QUITE YET
I think he’s been leaving some SPs in too long, and isn’t utilizing Romo as well as he could.
So I’m not going to go overboard on praising his pitching management (anything good comes from Rags, obv).
SO I’M STILL OKAY TO NOT CARE FOR HIS MANAGERIAL ABILITIES.
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I sort of won!
No, seriously, I am totally on board with Bochy dislike.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I WILL NOT CONCEDE. INSTEAD I WILL SLIGHTLY CHANGE MY ARGUMENT AND TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE STILL WRONG!
Oh hey – are you going to the McCovey’s thing?
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Yes, though I will be late, because of a baby shower. But, I think I’m going to bring cake again!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay!
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You bringing the kiddos?
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not – unless the fella ends up having to go to Korea. Then I’d bring the little monsters. Otherwise I’m going solo, baby!
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Whoo hoo! McCovey’s has really good margaritas!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
yay
Mr. Merope is pregnant!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That WOULD be a surprise!
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oh god there's gonna be kids at this thing?
someone’s going to have to bring a taser for me, I have a ridiculously foul mouth when I get going.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a restaurant there will be kids around. We can always stick any kids at their own table, I’ve got stickers for them to play with.
Did you just spoil the surprise?
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I know the sleeper hold if that helps.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He is frustrating, certainly.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
he says that
all the time.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he had a tendency to distance himself from on the field play, be it good or bad.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
when your head is so big that it creates its own gravity, its hard to distance yourself from anything
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Need a poll
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I love this twitter account:
BaggsCommenters ExtraBaggs Commenter
“He(Schulman) broke this because his blog traffic is way down and his job is in jeopardy’ Conspiracy????
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Emotionally I'm feeling similar to when we first picked up Freddy Sanchez.
It seemed like he imploded ten minutes after we bought him, and I was worried we’d saddled ourselves with a lousy deal, etc.
In hindsight, despite his current injury, I’m still glad we got him. Last year couldn’t have happened with the alternatives, and his absence this year has been magnified by the sad platoons we’ve been putting out for the middle infield.
Unfortunately, Beltran is a much shorter rental, and I’m curious as to what it would take for people’s opinions to change. Even if he turned it around and had a career year, there’s still the rest of the lineup. Don’t believe me? Ask the Padres; Adrian Gonzalez can only do so much.
So fine, he’s underperforming. What would be a reasonable expectation to change the minds of the skeptics?
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
The thing with Freddy is that we probably could have gotten him for last year without trading for him
WWRWD?
Maybe…but we don’t know how much the trade affected Freddy’s decision to come here.
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My mind won't be changed on this trade
Even if Beltran was healthy and crushing the ball, I’d still think it was too much to give up for him.
If you can’t tell, I really hate rental trades especially when the price is so high. The Giants got their pockets picked on this one.
So if Wheeler becomes a career MiLBer you would still rage…
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Yup
Don’t forget Wheeler’s potential to be used in a trade to get a decent player that would be under team control for more than 2 months.
That's just not true
Look at what Philly gave up for Pence…a pitcher ranked higher than Wheeler, a potential stud 1B, and two other prospects. For one more year of control?
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Generally, I feel the same way.
My only exception would be if the acquired player was that magic last missing piece to ensure it, it might be worth it, but with this year’s team, that’s hardly the case. He could be hitting like Bonds and I’m not sure it would be worth it.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Just had a snickers bar
Doing my part to end world hunger. I am no longer hungry.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I prefer to do things myself
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
The tweet underneath your tweet about the snickers bar was a news story about a gas leak at the Sacramento Food Bank. I thought that was eerie.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
/snickers
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Ross and Cabrera are changing spots in the order tonight
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:46 PM PDT reply actions
This will change everything!
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F*ING WONDER TWIN POWERS ACTIVATE!!!!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Carson Cistulli challenges our assumptions
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I like Schulman again
He’s on the radio saying that the team is going to have to bring up Belt. Basically, they have no choice.
I mean, that obviously has no bearing on what the team will actually do, but still.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
Media pressure is good…I like how they put some KNBR clips into the Franchise
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Speaking of that, how is episode 4 nowhere on the Internet?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Maybe Showtime figured out how to search for “The Franchise episode 4” on Youtube.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
They will have to when rosters expand.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
/Brad Eldred packs bags
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I took my dad to a Grizzlies/River Cats game, and he pointed at Brad Eldred and said, “how old is that guy? He looks like he’s about 50!”
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL – how cute that he thinks the team will do the logical thing.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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I spoke to soon. He’s talking about how Brett Pill is putting up ridiculous numbers in Fresno.
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay..I'm out
Try and make the Giants score at least one run today!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I STILL WON'T ADMIT TO BEING WRONG BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN MY NATURE, but here's more from Rownads
Rowand said that wasn’t the actual end of the interview but reporter Joe Cowley — a friend of the outfielder — chose to edit it to end there. Rowand had no issue with Cowley other to say the way the article was wrapped up in print made his statement sound worse than it was. He said the conversation carried on for another 15 minutes and he actually did just want to get to talking about Bears football, he said, not make any derogatory assertion about playing in San Francisco.
"Obviously, (the way it was edited to end) put things in a bad light," Rowand said. "But in no way did I ever insinuate about what I think of the city, the fans, the organizaion, my time here, any of that."
Setting the record straight, Rowand added, "I’ve enjoyed my time here. I’ve enjoyed my teammates, the fans have been great to me here and the organization. Do I wish things had turned out better over my time here — played better and done better? Of course. But I don’t have anybody else to point the finger at but myself. I’m not sitting here making any excuses about anything, but I’ve enjoyed my time here. I won another world championship with a great group of guys. The fans have supported me — when I’ve gotten booed here it’s because I’ve deserved to have gotten booed. There’s excuses being made and I’ve enjoyed my time here."
(From Carl Steward, filling in for the Baggy one)
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m confused. Does he enjoy his time here or not?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
Maybe he’s saying “I like it but I don’t because I suck and people are mean when I suck but I deserve it because I suck but the guys are nice and I get fan support except when I don’t and I never insinuated what I think of the city or the fans or anything.”
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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Maybe he’s just not that bright.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
But but but he looks so erudite as he stands there waggling his wang bat in a poop crouch at the plate!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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that is the first sign that he isn’t too bright- he has developed a batting stance that actually offends the common fan.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
I mean, shit. I’ve never seen a batting stance that could be so offensive. I didn’t even think that was possible. but the way he gyrates his hips while waggling the bat…. it’s fucking straight up wrong
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
/swings at the 9,328th slider in the dirt
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Scott seems like a pretty nice guy.
I’m not gonna stop making fun of him. It’s too easy. I try to separate Aaron Rowand, perfectly decent human being, from Aaron Rowand, terrible baseball player.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
that comment of Rownads is very obviously written by a PR person, even though I’ve missed this entire story developing today
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
I still wish he were elsewhere
But I don’t hate him anymore.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
well
there’s another day’s worth of RAGE gone to waste.
I’m glad he said something.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
you and your stories
Beer kills brain cells, Rowand is a good guy…
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
dammit. I’m going to get suckered into spending my evening watching the game, I just know it.
this stupid, stupid team.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
TRADE FOR COREY HART
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
I wanted to trade Sanchez for him last year!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Urbs really had a beat on that one.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
NO
CAIN 4 RICK ASTLEY
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
OT:
I’ve decided to send sporks to school with the kids along with their thermoses full of pasta or what-have-you for lunch. I’m looking for sturdy reusable options (being kind to the environment and such).
WHERE’S THE BEST SPORK RETAILER?
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
I buy my spork plugs from Kragen
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
beat me to it
we got these a while back, pretty indestructible.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I have one titanium spork in the house, mostly for the funny. I mean it’s a spork. Made of titanium.
I was thinking more about a plastic one – I’m worried about what titanium will do to the inside of the Hello Kitty themos.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
see above
plastistuff, unbreakable
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah – that’s the stuff. I see some of those on Amazon, too.
Thanks!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
You are a Grade A crazy mom. congratulations
titanium sporks just for fun?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
How long before an eye-ectomy takes place?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
if a girl likes you, she’ll spork you in the eye
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
I believe the Enterprise uses titanium sporks in it’s hyper drive.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Dilithium crystal sporkage?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT'S IT!
I had trouble remembering.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
no, silly.
Sporks are used to power the Deathstar
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
KFC if you want toweletts packed with it.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
HUMOR ME, NERBS
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
Didn't the 2008 offense only have Pablo for like 30 games?
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
how close we came to 4 straight ROYs.
Timmeh
Pablo
Posey
Belt- granted, this is a leap, but with consistent PT all year, he’d probably be mashing right now.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
oh, joy. looks like McCann will be activated literally on the day we roll into atlanta.
so that’s 4 guaranteed losses next week…
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
This Rowand thing is dumb
Are people really going to spend years calling him an overpaid piece of shit then complain when he implies that he liked it better somewhere else?
The first six innings are overrated.

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