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On Carlos Beltran

For lent, I gave up looking at Zack Wheeler's stats. Cold turkey. I don't even know what lent is, but I'm really into it in this case. If Wheeler makes it up to the majors, I'll pretend that it's Zach Wheeler, a non-prospect with a similar name.

Star-divide

Jesse Foppert-for-Kenny Lofton would have worked out just fine in 2002. The Giants didn't have to give up a top prospect for Lofton, but if they had, it would have worked out just splendidly. Matt Cain-for-Sean Casey wouldn't have worked out just fine in 2004. Casey was mediocre from then on, and Cain is Cain is Cain, which is to say, a pitcher who is better than you. Every time Cain took the hill for the Reds, we'd weep silent tears.

We don't know which one Wheeler-for-Beltran is going to be yet. But we're starting to get an idea. His wrist is hurting -- that's a different malady from his knee hurting, which is what we were already prepared for. He's old. He's a free agent. He's slumping. Wheeler is hitting 99 mph with his fastball. Things aren't looking up.

The temptation, then, is to wish we could hop in a time machine and trade Wheeler, Thomas Neal, and another prospect for Hunter Pence. That guy's hitting. He's around for another couple of years. He might not even follow the normal aging curve -- he's 235 if you go by the calendar from his home planet -- and he'd sure look nice hitting after Pablo right now. It might be more tempting not to make a trade at all, and just like this offense sink quietly into the cove.

But while the trade isn't looking good right now, it's only been ten days. There are still two months (and hopefully more) to go. What the last ten days have reinforced for me isn't that it was a mistake to trade for Beltran, it's that, holy crap, am I glad they traded for a hitter. I'm still not happy that they gave up Wheeler, but for the short-term, I can't imagine looking at this lineup every day without expecting Carlos Beltran to hit like Carlos Beltran.

If Beltran's wrist is more than a strain, I'll probably just give up and read the Spark Notes for all of the remaining games this season. A grown human being can only take so many Huff-Cabrera-Schierholtz permutations in the 4-5-6 spots. I don't like the trade yet -- Beltran's mini-slump shows the folly of expecting two much out of a two-month rental -- but I don't think I'd wave a magic wand and undo it yet.

Does that make sense? I'm still waiting a bit to complain. The Giants' offense is so bad right now, I'm thankful that there's an old, gimpy outfielder on the roster who will break out one of these days. Could be tonight. Could be tomorrow. Soon! It will be soon! And it's this sad, unrealistic expectation that gives me hope for this offense. The Giants' offense is awful. But it shouldn't be this awful. So let's all raise our glasses and make a toast to "not this awful." Beltran gives us hope enough for that.

Since moving to Mays Field, the Giants have never had a three-series homestand where they've lost each series. That they're close is an indictment of the worst offense we've seen since, well, 2008. But where the 2008 Giants had Pablo and nothing, the 2011 Giants have Pablo, Beltran, and nothing. I still believe. I don't like the trade, but as long as Beltran stays in the lineup, I'm glad it was made. 

Now heal that damned wrist and get back in the lineup, Carlos. Please.

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Aaron Rowand thinks the West Coast Offense is absolute garbage…because Ditka never ran it #RowandFacts
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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Deserves to be here too
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Aaron Rowand wanted to cast George Wendt in “Milk.” #RowandFacts

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by DFARowand on Aug 9, 2011 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Had to look up who George Wendt was/is.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

Thanks for making me feel old.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think bgunn is very young
He probably just didn’t care for Cheers

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

True and true. But if you said Norm, I would have know who you meant. Stay young GT.

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by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you like George Wendt?

Do you like beans?
Would you like to see a movie about George Wendt eating beans?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Animaniacs!

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hello Nurse!

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goodnight everybody!

Warning, angry Giants fan on the loose.

by MHizzle on Aug 9, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.
Yes.
No.

You’re not starting a #bgunnFacts are you?

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by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

jhiat00 bgunn thinks smug as a bug is a compliment #bgunnFacts

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just finished saying I trusted you. That was so 12:42.

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by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that and immediately felt like a jerk :(

But I was just referencing the last thread!

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus I said you aren’t the problem!

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just saw that—didn’t link the two until returning.

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by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

/is slightlt disappointed the #bgunnfacts search returns no results

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

bgunn hangs out in Grass Valley and has liberal values.

He also likes Fred Eaglesmith. He might be older than I. I hope he can come to my birthday part on the 20th.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

True on GV. I’ve never been accused of having values.
True on Fred. I’m 50. Will there be birthday pie?

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m turning 59. Damn. Still looking for someone older to attend.

I can arrange to accommodate someone with pie values.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should invite Delorean

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see the D-man again, but he’s maybe half my age, and his values don’t include cupcakes.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would think that a feature film featuring George Wendt completely spun out of his head on beanies….yes, that would be funny.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 9, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU'RE WELCOME

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by satyricrash on Aug 9, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
Aaron Rowand thought Mike Singletary didn’t get a fair shake from the Niners. #rowandfacts
1 minute ago

by Falconer88 on Aug 9, 2011 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Scott thinks everyone should get a shake like his

FLAIL, WAIL, FAIL

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT re-watching Veronica Mars

I just got to the point in Season 2 where the show begins taking a dump on everything that was ever good in life.

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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Season 1 is one of the top seasons of television in television history…makes season 2 look like crap and season 3 look like crap that you stepped in while barefoot.

by Rocko711 on Aug 9, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

S2 pisses me off because it retcons S1. WHY WOULD YOU FUCK WITH THAT?!

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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think S2 was either the writer getting himself stuck in too much of a jam plot wise or getting way too clever for his own good.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like season 3 way more than season 2.

And I didn’t really dislike season 2 until Keith slept with the married woman (or was that season 3)?

by Every6thDay on Aug 9, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked the rape arc of season 3 – did not like Piz. I felt like they were forcing him on us and it ruined a lot of the season for me

by Rocko711 on Aug 9, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I barely remember S3, aside from Piz’s existence and the weird emo theme song they used.

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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that the sheriff died, so Keith became sheriff, but he pissed everyone off with some bizarre anti-drinking crusade, so at the end of the show the town was about to vote him out of office.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Aug 9, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m actually not sure if I ever finished S3. (This is not me complaining about spoilers, though. Not sure I care either way.)

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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

V Mars

I only saw season 3 and I really liked it. Guess I gotta see 1 now.

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by achiappanza on Aug 10, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buffy forced Spike on me and I still enjoyed the show. I thought Piz was harmless. That his presence caused Wallace to virtually disappear was the worst part about him.

by Every6thDay on Aug 9, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I am not flexible enough in real life to toot my own horn
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When Aaron Rowand buys tickets to a sold out event they are ‘Squating room only’ #RowandFacts

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by Crazy Crabbers on Aug 9, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

This is good.

Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 9, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Signs that this Giants offense is making me depressed and irrational

Last night, when they had two on and none out in the 2nd inning, I actually thought, “Man, I wish Darren Ford was on the roster so he could pinch-run right here.”

Have I made myself clear? I WISHED DARREN FORD WAS ON THE BENCH SO HE COULD PINCH RUN IN THE SECOND INNING AGAINST A TEAM THAT HAD LOST 10 GAMES IN A ROW.

"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10

by Kitspool on Aug 9, 2011 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

A three-run deficit quite literally feels insurmountable. This is unbelievable.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Three-run deficit?

It feels like even a one-run deficit is insurmountable.

by TBRMKane on Aug 9, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I stopped watching after the first half inning.

If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them.

by WilliamVanLandingham on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

We did not attend last night’s game—somebody actually wanted to buy our tix (?!).
We started watching, but ended up surfing between the gamme and Hell’s Kitchen/Master Chef.

Yes, it’s come to this.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re rewatching Cosmos. It’s more exciting and surprising than anything the Giants could do.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I stated in the post-game, I was wishing Cabrera was bunting both times he was up w/runners
@ 1st and 2nd.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am going to continue to agree to disagree

I would not bunt with Aaron Rowand on deck facing a RHP.
If you want to argue with how the game was managed, it starts and ends with Aaron Rowand being in the lineup (and batting 6th).

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I realize it would have been (statistically) a bad play. But I also “knew” he would not score or advance the runner either time.

One way or another, this darkness got to give.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're having this discussion in the last thread

statstically it would have been a worse play if you were going for more than one run.

But it’s a statstically better play if you’re only going for one and especially if you’re going to the bottom of the lineup.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

but as I said in the last thread, do any of those statistical models include Aaron Rowand facing a RHP?

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

but it also doesn’t include Orlando Cabrera against any pitcher.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

With this lineup, the proper context for the models is probably little league.

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s still better than Miggy.

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!

by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

little league or Cabrera or Rowand?

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good question.

But I’d say Miggy’s the worst of all of them. Rowand can still occasionally make a decent play in the OF, and Cabrera has better range. It has been a while since I saw a LL game, tho.

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!

by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That it

Giants need metal bats

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

more than one run

What is this magic of which you speak?

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

my point exactly.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

With you

It was torturous watching runners get on base to start innings, and knowing that this team has neither the hitting ability to string multiple hits together to score runs, the power bats to make a pitcher pay for mistakes, or the speed necessary to manufacture runs.

There is just no facet of offense in which this team excels.

by otis29 on Aug 9, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess swinging at sliders in the dirt isn’t a category then…

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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually thought that last night, that somehow with Burriss and Ford doing their Vrroom thing, as silly as it was, managed to come up with some sort of key run here and there. This team has no Vrooommmm.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

ROFL
RegrettableHulk Joey Domeier
Aaron Rowand was excited because he thought Jay Cutler was doing an “Aaron Rowand” when he sat on the bench in the playoffs. #RowandFacts
2 minutes ago

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 12:35 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

RowandFacts heading for trending?

It was funny to hear about Cody finding out there is a “I hate Cody Ross” Facebook page (his wife contacted MLB to have it taken down). I cant wait until this gets back to Rowand.

If I tweeted, I would post “Barry Bonds once called him Scott (as in Scott Rolen)”

It would be weird to sneak a real fact or two in there.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's been tweeted now

I went a head and took care of that for you.

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by Crazy Crabbers on Aug 9, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

A writer from the Crazy Crabbers?

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

I have an unhealthy obsession with washed out Giants prospects.

by Crazy Crabbers on Aug 9, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

August is bumming me out.

Way out to left field, where I am caught on the warning track.

My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for this one-line summary of the last week’s games.

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was good
Giants55 Robert
Aaron Rowand would let A.J. Pierzynski kick him in the nuts! #RowandFacts

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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

He would like it too. BestTeamates4evar

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe in Carlos Beltran.

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I want to believe in Carlos Beltran, and I trust jhiat. So I’m OK.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate this...

what is even worse is that the bandwagon fans are still all optimistic like “Well, we’re still gonna kick butt in the playoffs.”
I wanna just scream back “NO WE ARE NOT! THIS IS NOT THE SAME TEAM AS LAST YEAR! WE ARE IN TROUBLE!”

But I restrain myself.

by djfivenine on Aug 9, 2011 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope the Giants can escape the first inning without allowing any runs

Because then I could watch baseball for a little longer this evening.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, last night I watched the first inning and then finish watching series 5 of Doctor Who.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

And speaking of which, I just discovered that there’s a Dr. Who short featuring not just one, but TWO Amy Pond! Both in mini-skirts! And, in fact, that’s part of the plot!

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where is this? And when does the season start back up again?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The “shorts” are here:

http://io9.com/5783593/doctor-who-reveals-the-real-problem-with-amy-ponds-short-skirts/gallery/1

the season starts in mid-September, just enough time to upgrade my cable package.

Sorry— the discovery of a 11/Amy (two Amy’s) takes some of the stink of this week off

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, yes, that one is quite amusing.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m now watching Dr. Emo and Martha right now so it’s good to know there’s still some 11/Amy I haven’t seen yet. Those two are the reason why I’m completely addicted to the show right now

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still stuck at the end of S4, I know it’s almost time for Tennant to go, but I can’t seem to generate enough interest to finish this season.

Maybe the Giants will suck and I won’t want to watch the end of the game. nahhh

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!

by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

S5 is pretty kick-ass with some episodes that are as good as anything you’ll see in sci-fi so definitely worth making it to. I like Tennant but I can see him being pretty exhausting after awhile, especially with all the Rose stuff lurking.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

/smacks forehead

This is why I lost interest – the last episode I watched had Rose in it.

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!

by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

S5/6 is (mild spoiler) Rose-less- so much so the small contingent of Rose/10 shippers still out there were upset and complained about 11’s off flirting with Amy when he should still be pining after Rose.

by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The end of season 4 is weird.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Aug 9, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:42 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That’ll be something to save for when Belt signs a new contract.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wanna get that

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Your mom's a girl

by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now heal that damned wrist and get back in the lineup, Carlos. Please.

I don’t care about the wrist. Get back in the lineup and heal the damned production, Carlos.

by mlb22 on Aug 9, 2011 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s got 2 wrists…

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He only needs ONE

None

-Mark DeRosa

by iHateBochy on Aug 9, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit! I think we seriously just had an earthquake in Pierre, SD.

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

usgs.gov

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

more specifically

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/

I don’t see anything yet.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just going to say that I didn’t see anything.

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure it was an earthquake. I’ve spoken to a few people around town and we all felt it. That was weird.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

SUPERVOLCANO!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

/devises plan to rout magma through subway system

Shit! We don’t have a subway system!

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

NUCLEAR WARHEAD!

2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

could have just been the 600 Pound Virgin.

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Your mom's a girl

by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. Earthquake. Radio said it was 3.4.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

44.365°N, 100.363°W

Plug those coordinates into Google maps and you will see it was centered under Poplar Ave.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOOHOO YELLOWSTONE'S GONNA BLOW

or is it the black hills
WHATEVER

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it bike week? Perhaps it’s just a bunch of Harley’s.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd day of, now that you mention it.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody going to see Poison at the Buffalo Chip?!

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh, riding to Sturgis is a young coke-fiends game. We were there on this very very sad day in 1995. It was a long, teary 1,500 mile ride home.

RIP Jerome. DDHNM.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Condolences for your friend. Always fatalities at Sturgis.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re honoring him at the ballpark tonight. C’mon down. (and thanks.)

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

mlb.com, 1500 miles away. But I’ll watch for it.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I assume your friend Jerome who died in 1995 is the Jerome we all knew and loved…

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are still everywhere.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

really wish i could be there tonight. Have work thing I could not reschedule.

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

phone wouldn’t stop ringing
i wouldn’t answer it
but it wouldn’t stop ringing
so i answered it.

drove from santa cruz to san francisco
lots of sad, sad in the streets, sad on the sidewalks, too much sad
split to Bolinas
played cassette tapes at Smiley’s
stayed drunk for 3 days.

Death don’t take no vacation in this land.

Where have you gone John Johnstone?

by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 9, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perfect. That is exactly where a major flood levee stands LOL!

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

near La Framboise Island.

Archer makes this chuckly for me.

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Your mom's a girl

by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

That small stretch of land that connects Pierre to the island has been washed away now. Floods, earthquakes… just waiting for a tornado.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Locusts

pestilence
Godzillas

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Your mom's a girl

by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t tempt fate. We’d had some of our biggest thunderstorms of the year the past few days, which is weird for August. Usually May and June.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had a pretty good one blow through here on Friday night. Got the tarp on the field just in time. It was a mess in the morning though.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had two go through today within a couple hours.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aaron Rowand thinks Daly City was named for Richard J. Daley #Rowandfacts

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL Agen Ned

still paying Juan Pierre $3.5 million this season

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not shocking, considering one of the largest know earthquakes in north america had an epicenter near the Mississippi.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Madrid is going to fuck some shit up some day.

And it is not going to be pretty.

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone

I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOLD ON THERE, AMIGO...

…there’s a New Madrid?

Turns out you can spell Ugnio Vlz without 4 E's

by The Gene Hackman on Aug 9, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

And only about 75 miles west of me. The highest earthquake risk in the US outside the West Coast is along the New Madrid Fault. Damaging tremors are not as frequent as in California, but when they occur, the destruction covers over more than 20 times the area because of underlying geology.

If my life is for rent, and I don't learn to buy, then I deserve nothing more than I get, 'cause nothing I have is truly mine. - Dido Armstrong

by Lyle on Aug 9, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just plagiarized from that website!

Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.

by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

For new content, you’d need to be a MCC Premium member.

If my life is for rent, and I don't learn to buy, then I deserve nothing more than I get, 'cause nothing I have is truly mine. - Dido Armstrong

by Lyle on Aug 10, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, and not building to strict earthquake codes.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I have a bad stomach today. I’ll try to be a little more careful. I also caused an X-7 class solar flare.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way. Must have been Fort Pierre farting.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

River rats. The lot of ’em.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re not telling me anything I don’t know. Been there.

Is this where we enlighten others on the correct pronunciation of PEER, South Dakota?

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have I ever told you how much I like you?

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you also pronounce CREEK like it’s spelled CRICK?

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s more of a southern thing.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My nieces and nephews in Montana say crick.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Live in town or out in the country?

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The more out in the sticks you get, the more southernisms creep in. The speech gets a lot more rednecked up.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like to use it

for “Walnut Crick”. Seems somehow appropriate.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You must be some kinda heek.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

No sir. Many say "pop" instead of "soda" though.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Said pop when I was a kid. Changed to soda as an adult.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That doesn't bother me

You’re just taking a different part of the name. Pronouncing ee like it’s i baffles me though.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pee-air sounds effete to the midwestern ear. So it became Peer. Same for Bee-AT-trice, Nebraska, not pronounced like the woman’s name.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too. For some reason I always notice when someone says pop now.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe “pop” is a Northern expression, if my wife’s family are any indication.

If my life is for rent, and I don't learn to buy, then I deserve nothing more than I get, 'cause nothing I have is truly mine. - Dido Armstrong

by Lyle on Aug 9, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, it’s breakfast, dinner and supper.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s just weird. I didn’t know people did that.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It just follows the logic of Sunday dinner being the noon meal.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I consider dinner and supper to be the same thing.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL meal-skipper

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner just about every day.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

SUPPER SNOOPER

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRUNCH BONER

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

DINNER DOME-R

"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."

I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."

by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

STEAKHOUSE SUCKER

"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."

I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."

by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I use both of them

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any particular rhyme or reason?

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. I’ll have to pay attention next time and look for a pattern.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a “confused from living in the Mid-West” kinda thing.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey. I’m not confused, thank you very much. I also say sofa and couch interchangeably.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Truthfully, I use lunch and dinner both. Lunch is a small meal, dinner is a big meal. Both at midday. Supper is always supper.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m glad we’ve cleared that up.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

De nada. Actually I’m probably confused from living in California for some of my youth. At least I know Vallejo isn’t Valley Joe.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, at least Tim doesn't suck this year.

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!

by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

the giants win more world series when he does

by haroldandsivakumar on Aug 9, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

mediocre at best

by mlb22 on Aug 9, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

this?

My adopted son, Orlando Cabre...Wait, I don't want this shit!

by josematan on Aug 9, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

sub 3 ERA’s are so average.

My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper

by Soulbrother16 on Aug 9, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't know how to win

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this from MLB netwrok?

I hate wins so much.

Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 9, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

CSNBA

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It baffles me

Is it really that hard of a concept to understand?

That is cray-z.

by DrDC on Aug 9, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about hitting with runners on base, Hensley?

by mlb22 on Aug 9, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 to 1 K/BB ratio is awful.

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants have scored 16 runs

in Tim’s 8 “losses”

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cain'd

Doesn’t know how to win.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, that's 16 runs

in Tim’s 9 starts that the team lost.

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

15 runs in his 8 "losses"

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to call up that Zito kid from San Jose...

/ducks

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then it’s also worth mentioning that in 8 of 9 games the Giants lost that Tim started he took the L.

Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)

by quincy0191 on Aug 9, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

eh, good but not great

by chilibean_3 on Aug 9, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it weren't for Voglesong this team would be three or four games worse.

I know the WAR math doesn’t work out, but Look at Zito. Now look at Voglesong. Now look at Zito, and back to Voglesong.

Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 9, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Pence is an alien meme.

That is cray-z.

by DrDC on Aug 9, 2011 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Did the llamas tell you that?

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s early.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here...

Somebody with more twitter ability than me take this recent SETI tweet:

More on Dark Matter: What is it? What Astronomers Observe About it… http://cot.ag/qRrukY
and turn it into a #rowandfact

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McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 12:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Rowand’s bat approaches an outslider in an asymptotic parabola.

If my life is for rent, and I don't learn to buy, then I deserve nothing more than I get, 'cause nothing I have is truly mine. - Dido Armstrong

by Lyle on Aug 9, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

"outside slider"

some slang I’m inventing, apparently.

If my life is for rent, and I don't learn to buy, then I deserve nothing more than I get, 'cause nothing I have is truly mine. - Dido Armstrong

by Lyle on Aug 9, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats awesome

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, that’s my twitter

by mlb22 on Aug 9, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well then, you’re almost as funny as Jeff Sullivan.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m almost as funny as the entire world

by mlb22 on Aug 9, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good job.

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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

should have thrown in an Illegal Alien comment in there somewhere

by O R They? on Aug 9, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wheeler's stats

With the Mets, 10 IP, 11 K, 0 BB.

by wcw on Aug 9, 2011 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

almost looks like Cabrera’s line with us

by mlb22 on Aug 9, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a fine pitcher he has turned out to be.

by wcw on Aug 9, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’re on the one yard line!

by mlb22 on Aug 9, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants didn’t have to give up a top prospect for Lofton, but if they had, it would have worked out just splendidly.

FWIW, Felix Dias was #5 on their BA prospect list that year. He had a 2.70 ERA with 48k, 23bb in 60 IP as a 20 year old in AA Shreveport. The year before in low A (Sally) he’d had 56 k and 16 bb in 51 IP.

He would throw 49 innings in the majors in 2004.

MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!

by Roger on Aug 9, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Felix Diaz? Agegate victim, I thought. Did he ever make a top 100, midyear or final, pre-age change or post? I thought not.

by wcw on Aug 9, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought BBRef changed the ages retroactively on the pages of all the age-gate guys.

MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!

by Roger on Aug 9, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was only one year, but still my memory is of him as 22 in AA. Hold on.. yep, “His age since has been revised upward a year from 21 to 22, but he remains a coveted prospect. A righthander, he works in the mid-90s with his fastball and also uses a hard slider, a plus changeup and a curveball. He has spent 2002 at Double-A Shreveport..”: http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/020728lofton.html

But the important thing is, Wheeler is a top 100 guy, per the last midyear report top 50. Diaz wasn’t.

by wcw on Aug 9, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh absolutely. But by the same measure Kenny Lofton was no Carlos Beltran either. He was seen as a nice piece out there who could help somebody (as he did every year), not as the best bat on the market.

MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!

by Roger on Aug 9, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah.

And don’t give Ryan Meaux the shaft! But he wasn’t anything close to Wheeler. Nice changeup, bad health, I think.

by Grant Brisbee on Aug 9, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did I miss something? What's with the Rowand meme?

"This is almost certainly a terrible idea. But I won't know for certain until I've actually done it." — Jez from Peep Show

by Giant Fan in Singapore on Aug 9, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

he hates SF

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's been expelled from the state of grace

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

he hates SF

and loves Pierzynski

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the AJ love was a fact I didn’t need to know about him. Can I now hate him MORE?

Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster

by SituationalLefty on Aug 9, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

Well, they’ve apparently cast Dolorous Edd. The guy looks all right, I guess, but he’ll probably back out at the last minute or something, knowing our luck. Or maybe they’ll just decide to cut the character. Oh well.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I’m sure this has been discussed in detail before, but should I go back and read the first book or does the season pretty much cover it well?
 I want to start book 2 immediately!

by O R They? on Aug 9, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are a lot of details in the book that aren’t in the show, I would probably read it.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Read the book dude! Read them all!

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could certainly get by without reading the first book

That said, you probably should though. You get a different feel for a couple characters and some more details. Plus battle scenes.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re just such fun reads, at least GoT is. A shame to pass up. I’m loving the second time through.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d read the first book. You’ll get a better grasp of who a lot of the characters are, and it’ll introduce you to guys who will come back later who either weren’t in the show or were completely unmemorable.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Aug 9, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

and less Roz

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

and less boobz and slurping bjs.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol. Slurping bjs.

Do you think they put the boom mic directly by the actors’ mouth or were they post production sound fx?

by O R They? on Aug 9, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that’s some good foley right there.

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roz was such a weird character to add. Besides giving Theon an early scene and allowing Littlefinger an exposition scene people paid marginal attention to in order to not seem overly sex-obsessed, she didn’t do a whole lot.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Aug 9, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they thought the sexposition thing was clever, but it definitely got old by the end of the season.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Psh, whatever, I want more scenes with Pycelle’s cock.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m like 100% sure she’s going to be chilling with Renly and his bros at the beginning of the season.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

My attention was more than marginal. I assure you.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant that people were paying marginal attention to the exposition and more to the other part of the scene, but I said it badly.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

TITTIES

Basically, they really liked the actress when she was in the pilot, and decided to give her more to do. Also, subject line.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Subject line?

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Aug 9, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

I thought you were telling me to use a subject line and I was all “OH FUCK WHAT’D I DO NOW?”

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Aug 9, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

This ain’t communist LL!

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet they liked her.

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was z-ing through this subthread until I saw this subject line.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

you should read the book because books are awesome

and this is a particularly awesome book

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks everyone. This is what I figured…but I am running out of recreational reading time and was hoping to continue the story. It shall be done, 1st book it is!

by O R They? on Aug 9, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martin 1 hour Interview with google

also, you’ve probably have seen this interview by google, but my friend told me about it. I’m afraid to watch because I think it’s for the fans who have read the books and I do not want any spoilers.

by O R They? on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

do your best

to avoid spoilers. Even stuff that isn’t much of a spoiler can ruin a lot, because… well, it will imply a whole bunch of intermediate facts or events.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now dad went to last night's game

Said it was the worst game he’s ever attended and he attended Giants games during the mid-70’s.

Ssory Doc, I'm on the Twitters

by 49er16 on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

A question for the group

Does anyone know what precipitated the #rowandfacts? Did he say something disparaging about San Francisco? Granted, I don’t need a reason to bash Rowand, but was wondering.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/6895816-574/hot-corner-interrogation-room-with-ex-white-sox-aaron-rowand.html

JC: Thing you miss most about playing for Chicago?

Rowand: Wearing the road uniform. And you know why? Because it said ‘Chicago’ across the front. I got goose bumps every time I would put it on.

JC: Not so with San Francisco?

Rowand: [Pause] Let’s talk about the Bears again.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why you're our fearless leader.

Good to know my tweets about Rowand were in fact warranted.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

More to the point

He listed A.J. Pierzynski as one of his favorite teammates.

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now I can say with certainty that this is not true.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, just wow...
JC: Favorite Sox teammate?

Rowand: Joe [Crede] and A.J. [Pierzynski].

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

And nice post time.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aaron Rowand Fact

mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
Aaron Rowand still thinks the Black Sox didn’t throw the World Series. #rowandfacts

by Drug Runner SF on Aug 9, 2011 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

RISP, RIP

Bochy’s all like, “Holy Shit! Look at that stat…….I need to find a way to get more AB’s for Rowand and Huff.”

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 9, 2011 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Big picture is big.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Does anybody else see that?”

My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was one of our goals to get a lot of runners into scoring position. I think the guys
 are doing a good job

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was one of our goals to get a lot of runners into scoring position

Only takes 3 singles…

Can't spell "Colletti" without LOL.

by D4P on Aug 9, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope you are making this up.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s like a Greendale mascot prototype.

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find it hilarious that the Human Being is supposed to be gender-neutral but then there’s also a female version.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

INCLUSION!!

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cannot be Green Enough

I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.

by nvsfg on Aug 9, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

WEEEEE STOCKS!

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Republicans have a secret stock market

It always goes up.

I’ve said too much. They might pull my investments.

by GiantPain on Aug 9, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least they are honest about it unlike those other guys!

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dem secrets are boring.

“We’re giving away money to anyone who asks for it!”
“We’re bad at our jobs!”
“We suck!”

by Every6thDay on Aug 9, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

“We have sex with women of legal age!”

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

ftfy
"We have sex with women of legal age!"

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have sex with women

My adopted son, Orlando Cabre...Wait, I don't want this shit!

by josematan on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry to have to inform you of this

But I was just contracted to murder you. Please make your arrangements before leaving today.

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's rising!

Unlike the Giants’ scoreboard

Walter White is Heisenberg.

by hankmoody on Aug 9, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s probably excited about those. They cover up bare feet.

Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.

by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL What happens when the FED’s efforts don’t work anymore?

Who wants to bet the FED has been directly intervening in the stock market to keep it inflated? Most times the only reason markets go up is because of the dollar being down for the day.

by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 9, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

This team has been hard to listen to. Please play better everyone.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 9, 2011 1:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Damn

The stock market is crazier than McC’s reaction to Bochy and Sabean’s decisions.

by Wolvkil23 on Aug 9, 2011 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are on a roll today.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you. my hatred of aaron rowand is going to make me late for work today.

by mlb22 on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t you work at Petco Park?

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is in my best interests to wish nothing but wonderful things to happen to the San Diego Padres. [/MLB memo]

by mlb22 on Aug 9, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say. I thought you guys took the summer off!

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand to the Pads!

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, what now

Rowand counts his strikeouts on his back?

Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the front it says 1 BB.

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!

by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scott doesn't like to cheat

prefers failure the “old fashioned way”, one AB at a time

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

My avatar is still a picture of me with Wheeler

I really, really hope Beltran ends up being good.

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, #bitterwheelerfans would make me laugh more if you got to use it after he hit, say, only an RBI double instead of a dinger.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Instead, I find myself using it for GIDP’s and K’s. :(

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just reminded me

I need to change my avatar

I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!

by thehavenot on Aug 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel bad but I haven’t watched a full Giants game in about a week.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I haven’t either. Haven’t had the stomach to watch a full game.

Ssory Doc, I'm on the Twitters

by 49er16 on Aug 9, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t miss anything.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was that Wednesday?

Seems like a distant memory.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was the best day off I’ve taken all year. Man, do I feel lucky.

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!

by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

My mind still can't wrap it's head around the fact

That about two weeks ago the Giants looked like a nascent powerhouse in the NL.

by Gitaroo_Dude on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watched a full game last night . . .

 . . . but it was silent and in the background at Trivia Night in downtown Sac.

There was nothing I really needed to hear that wasn’t in a graphic in the bottom right of the screen.

He is the world's most annoying rooster.

by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's funny

I’ve watched several and they’ve all made me feel bad.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve lost five pounds and revised my script and caught up on DVR’d shows. Life’s good!

Following on Gameday is now my preferred method for baseball tomfuckuppry.

by Every6thDay on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve lost five pounds

FUCK YOU

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe my scale just sucks

But my weight will fluctuate 5 pounds within a given day. So I wouldn’t be able to tell if I lost 5 pounds.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

same with

I go back and forth between a 10 pound range in any given week

by sfoakbay on Aug 9, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poop weight

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been stuck at gaining/losing poop weight for the last week.

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You take 5-10 pound shits?

by BB129 on Aug 10, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

shitting the bed

Giants offense. 4 for 40 with RISP in the last week. Where is the news? it couldn’t have been much better the entire season. Sucky offenses usually suck.

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m down 11

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 9, 2011 1:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Depression helps!

Mr. F! | comics | art | Nattowear | McImage Directory | Confused? Check the McWiki

by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Screw it. I’ve stopped caring.

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think about how much worse you’d feel if you had watched a full game.

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it’s your fault.

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here.

I just can’t do it right now. In laws are coming out and I don’t need to be a miserable person before they get here.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I went on Saturday, but otherwise haven’t watched hardly any on TV. .

@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.

by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been watching them, because I am a fucking idiot.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Aug 9, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for dinner

Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience

by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're welcome

It was the least I could do.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool

by groug on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

i've spent way too much time watching them lose the past few days

when i could probably be doing anything else at all

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

This Line

it’s just too painful. I did watch/listen to all of Sunday’s Timmython. Half watched, half listened while hitting BP with my grandson in the backyard.

I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.

by nvsfg on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm terrified that they're facing Karstens tomorrow

Guy threw a ~78 pitch CG not too long ago. No doubt in my mind he’ll throw around a 65 pitch CGSO against this offense.

by Gitaroo_Dude on Aug 9, 2011 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

That's just over 7 pitches per inning.

Totally do-able.

Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not if Rowand-2 is in the lineup

There’s 9 pitches, just to him alone.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

12 if he leads off.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re assuming any baserunners aren’t erased by double plays.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

9 if he leads off and Huff is also in the LOLineup

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is odd

But typically I remember the Giants’ June-swoon, coming in June. What rhymes with August?

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

bust

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

crap fest?

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very good

We can now replace June-swoon with August-crap fest.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh us?

Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan

by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fugh ust

welcome to the month of rage, disgust. Where is my bat and water cooler?

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, apparently all the bats are en route to London

Adopted Giant: Eddie I Have It Grant.

McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.

by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shift-A: What's happening

I have been actually working and want to know what I can do to tick off people here fast.

START HUFF AND ROWAND!

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 1:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Based on this set of 8 games, I have to say that Aubrey Huff is coming out of his swoon

by Hyoton on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s heating up, folks!

by sfoakbay on Aug 9, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

eh

just post what you usually post.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck you Bruce.

And please stop your post game “if we could have just got that one big hit….(inadudible, mumble, mumble, mumble), we are hitting the ball hard, just sometimes…(inauduble, mumble, mumble – scratches head, squints, mumble), if we can just ….(mumble, squints, mumble)” bullshit

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huff’s coming around, had some good swings.

"I say what's on my mind, and more often than not, it's factually based."
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!

by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is I don’t mind Huff nearly as much as I do Rowand. I seriously expect him to GIDP every PA…even if there are no men on base

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can tolerate Huff as bad as he has been

I think the reference was more attributed to Bork’s constant reference to Huff is “coming around”.

"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard

by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to this, he’s gone from red to orange!

2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller

by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I won a dollar bet with my friend yesterday when I bet that Rowand would strike out on a slider when he was coming up. He promptly struck out on 3 pitches to end the suspense.

I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.

by Tay on Aug 9, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d buy that for a dollar.

The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo

by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Rowand had a great BP!

"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson

"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.

by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can cut the ball, and he can sink the ball...

Oh, wait. That’s pitchers. Whoops!

I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?

by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can wave at the ball like it’s a 5 ounce bumblebee.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL #RowandFacts
@Nimreezy
Killa K
Aaron Rowand will only eat clam chowder if its served in a deep dish bread bowl. #RowandFacts

by ThePasswordisWillieMcgee on Aug 9, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Kinda like that one.

Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 9, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I know is ......

the Giants are the most frustrating first-place team I have ever seen.

"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."

I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G Man."

by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

watch them closely then

because they could be that object in the Snakes (did I just say that?) rearview mirror.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just going to leave this here...

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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

don't care for the gif

but it really irks me that the Giants had a really good chance to repeat had Scott Cousins not happened.

I’m not sure if the Giants still trade for Beltran if Posey is healthy but

Torres
Keppinger/Mole
Panda
Buster
Beltran
Huff/Belt
Ross/Nate
SS
P

Would be an awesome lineup

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huff/Belt

LOL, delusional.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heck

even Huff would be fine in there…

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.

by Cody_ransom on Aug 9, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

whatever…you asians and your fancy tech talk.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I do not want to see an animated .gif of that picture.

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by nvsfg on Aug 9, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

AsiansOnYouTube.posterous.com?

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I didn’t say it was mine.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was posted on the rowand twittery dealie.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just trying to figure out what that has to do with the Giants.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was made by a bitter Dodger fan.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL attendance

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by Cody_ransom on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants are like chocolate covered frozen bananas… I loved them unconditionally when I was a kid, but now they’re just cold and make my teeth hurt.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

....

"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry

by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s money in the banana stand.

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goes up in flames

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's a flamer

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes a banana is just a snack.

Giants baseball: We'll take it.

by TheAntiBork on Aug 9, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get off the segway. You aren’t impressing anyone.

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

But his bananas don’t give you cancer.

by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jerry and Steve are getting the band back together!
ESPN Hires HOFer Jerry Rice As Net’s Newest NFL Analyst
ESPN has hired Pro Football HOFer Jerry Rice as an NFL analyst, with a formal announcement expected “later this week.” Rice will appear on “NFL Live,” “SportsCenter” and the new show “Audibles,” which will air weekly this fall on Thursday nights. He is “scheduled to start at ESPN on Sept. 15 and will be based on the West Coast.” Rice’s sports media experience includes co-hosting “Sports Sunday” on NBC-owned Bay Area TV station KNTV after 49ers games last season (SI.com, 8/8).

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by DFARowand on Aug 9, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Bummer.

I like the way Joe Montana just… disappeared. Whenever we see him now, it’s like Zeus came down from Olympus to impregnate a comely maiden.

by Every6thDay on Aug 9, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorta agree

But Jerry ruined that for me with the whole Dancing With the Stars.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe wasn’t real fond of attention even when he was playing. Jerry obviously needs, needs attention.

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The comely maiden du jour being Santa Clara.

Giants baseball: We'll take it.

by TheAntiBork on Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet Jerry Rice could hit .250.

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by Giant Torture on Aug 9, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alright...8 hours billed!

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL Carlos

“"As soon as I feel I can swing the bat, I’ll be out there.” holy shit, if we waited for the other position players to feel the same way, we would have to forfeit – wouldn’t be able to field a team.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes

but the Giants just send them up there to swing…making contact is an accident.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Translation:

“Sweet Mother of God do these guys suck…I’m distancing myself from these humps until they prove they can score at least 2 runs without me.”

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what Keppinger is thinking...

I thought I was traded to a winning team.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keppinger: “They give huge contracts to old guys…I’ll just bide my time.”

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

I would to request a nonchalant Mark Reynolds as well.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

We all know that he will be a Giant in a week or two
Lyle Overbay has cleared waivers and hit free agency, according to MLB.com’s Jenifer Langosch (on Twitter). The Pirates had designated him for assignment at the end of July.

Overbay signed a one-year $5MM contract with the Pirates in the offseason, but didn’t produce as well as expected in his return to the National League. After reaching the 20 homer plateau for the second time in his career last year and posting a .243/.329/.433 line, the 34-year-old added just eight homers for Pittsburgh, posting a .227/.300/.349 line.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Platoony toon adventure...

with Huff!

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do I feel like the September call ups will offer no relief?

I’m envisioning the AAA prospect pitcher taking the mound for the opposition having the same success that every other pitcher has had against the Giants. It is borderline fraudulent to fill that prospect with such false hope.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Crawford and Belt would be good.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully they are both up before September so they can play in the play offs.

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because they won’t play.

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by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe AAA Prospect Pitcher after throwing a 93 pitch CG shutout

beats chest and revels in the success against the World Champion Giants only to go on to have an extended minor league career holding on to a charade of a memory of that one day when he dominated the World Series Champs in the heat of the Giants fight for the pennant.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do I feel like the September call ups will offer no relief?

Because they would have to get playing time to provide some sort of respite from the offensive hell we have been suffering through.

/ Bork’d

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by nvsfg on Aug 9, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tejada, Burrell, Zito. Yep.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

because sept callups will just return to us all the crappy veterans who are now “injured”.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice cape

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by Nnamdi Asomugha on Aug 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot about errant throwin.

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Natto'd.

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Waiting for Natto

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

........

McCoven #1: Can we go?

McCoven #2: No.

McCoven #1: No?

McCoven #2: We’re waiting for Natto.

McCoven #1: Oh.

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Waiting for Godot reference

impressive.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You, my friend, get a Rec ......

for knowing what I was talking about.

"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve decided to go home, close the all the blinds, and curl up in a fetal position until tomorrow.

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

you forgot one important ingredient ......

…….. what did you think i was going to say? lol!

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually

didn’t think booze from your user name

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

there’s always room for booze.

"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a normal size image, that took forever to load.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

were you pretty surprised when it finally loaded? lol!

“This guy again ……… probably gonna be a big bud of weed ………. or a picture of a weed greenhouse in humboldt coun ………. oh, it’s a big jug of alcohol.”

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

we gotta party soon, my friend.

"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

My interwebz haz been suh-low… all afternoonz

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh. i don’t like how alcohol affects me.

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

i hear you on that one ......

"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jorge Posada, the veteran of all veterans, the symbol of grit, an icon in Yankees Lore

was benched after hitting .230/.309/.372. The Yankees gave him a long, long rope, but finally decided enough is enough.
They are contemplating bringing up Jesus Montero to DH. Ha! A Rookie! In a Pennant race!

Meanwhile, Aubrey Huff hits 5th with .244/.300/.367, almost identical to Jorge Posada, and Brandon Belt is optioned to the minors.

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Well yeah.

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats why Sabes left the Yankee organization.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

but you are clearly not taking notes during batting practice. Huff will save us.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
DomingoBeisbol Domingo Ayala
how es ther a show call the franchise without Domingo? some gigantes tell me how I get a tryout.

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

He’d hit better than Rowand.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a dream that the Giants won

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by son of ggf on Aug 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I dreamed a dream in time gone by

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS

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by jhiat00 on Aug 9, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

likewise

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by son of ggf on Aug 9, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not the last game of the series yet

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was so 2010

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants offense

Together We’re Raisins In the Sun

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i literally had a dream in the middle of the regular season last year .......

that the Giants won the Pennant. i woke up and said to myself, “Yeah right.” But then, TGWTWS.

If I’m lying, I’m dying.

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It hurts, doesn't it?

You can’t believe what fell.

All your dreams……dashed.
Hopes down the fucking drain.
Your fate is sitting right next to you

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

worst unis EVAH

next to the 2011 Snakes unis. fugging uglay

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't hate those

but I didn’t see the movie either. I mean, look at the Ducks unis then. At least they’re not teal and purple.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

the only good thing about that year was that they beat the Yankees.

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

or did you leave that 2011 WS dvd on ∞repeat again last night?

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, even though TGWTWS, it felt kinda flukey. now, even more so.

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by son of ggf on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorta like

good porn

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

GoT Question/Spoiler

What was Ned’s intention after Robert died? To place Stannis on the throne?

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup

He was the right heir, due to the other kids being spawn of incest.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he would go with whatever was the “right” thing to do, which would be Stannis (next in line after Robert, Joffrey/Tommen/etc all not legitimate heirs due to you know what). That’s why he didn’t go with Renly when he asked him too (who knows what might have happened if he had!)

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was Renly more powerful? I mean he became powerful after marrying into the Tully’s

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Renly was more charismatic.

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by Zetsuboushita on Aug 9, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not more powerful

Just prettier and more charismatic. More “King-like” as opposed to the bitter and brittle Stannis.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you reading ACOK? Stannis is not exactly the most inspiring person in the entire world, nor is he much of a leader. Renly is like a younger Robert.

And Renly did not marry into the Tullys.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

Tyrells…names are confusing.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

And

basically, at the time, Renly more or less had the entirety of Highgarden (a pretty huge part of the country) in his pocket due to his relationship with Ser Loras. Stannis didn’t have nearly as much and wasn’t likely to inspire anyone to take up arms for him.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tyrells*

As for more powerful, there are many ways to measure power. ;) Certainly Renly, at the end of GoT, is much better placed politically, and able to level the playing field with Stannis by making allies in a way that his brother never could.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

I was right in thinking that Ned would have been an awful king. Clearly Renly was the better pick to combat the Lannisters.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned was never going to be the King, I’m not sure why you keep bringing that up

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get the feeling that there was a lot of sentiment to push him to be the King…maybe I was wrong.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

In the north, and as an alternative to the Lannisters, yes.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Robert asked him to be the regent for Joffrey, but I don’t think Ned had any real claim to the throne and he wouldn’t have taken it, because in his mind, it belonged to Stannis.

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Agreed...Ned did not want it.

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He even had a chance for it during the rebellion and he chose not to take it.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which in hindsight

was the biggest mistake of all

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this point in the series, I have to wonder what sort of a person GRRM thinks really makes for a good King/Queen. Most of the options we’ve been given so far haven’t done very well (in some cases, like Dany, of course, they are still learning).

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tyrion

that’s what I think GRRM thinks would be a good King.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The harem would be spectular

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but where do whores go?

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

he wasn’t a particularly good Hand. It’s one thing to be ruler of Icebergia, but the Seven Kingdoms are a lot to handle, and all the drama in King’s Landing was over his head, for the most part.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t think Ned would have been a good King at all.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

When he came in as Hand, yes

But I think a lot of the problems were caused by the mismanagement by Robert, leading to the corruption and problems that Ned had problems dealing with. I don’t think he would have let things get anywhere like that, leading to things being a lot better, making it easier for him to rule.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was totally outclassed

by Littlefinger and Varys at almost every turn. And being unable to work with/manage them would have undone him worse yet as King than as Hand.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

GRRM;s point may be

that it doesn’t matter who is the King, because the Varys’s and Littlefingers of the world are really in charge.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It depends on your definition of a “good ruler.” There’s a pretty awesome thread on Westeros comparing the respective rules & legacies of Ned Stark & Twyin Lannister, and I can’t talk about it with people who haven’t finished ADWD. :(

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

can you link it?

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/54288-adwd-spoilers-neds-redemption/

But I can basically sum it up with “Ned’s little girl.”

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for not doing so

Talk about your bad choices.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know that Ned didn’t want to be the King. Just that there was a lot of push for him to be one…even from Robert.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, Robert wanted him to be the Regent for Joffrey until Joffrey came of age. Robert went to his grave thinking Joffrey was his real son. I don’t remember anyone else wanting Ned to be King. Renly wanted him to join his side but he certainly wanted to be King himself.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

Robert seemed to think Ned had a better skill set to be king, but never suggested anything like that. Much of that was mostly buttering up Ned to be the Hand anyway.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to say

one of the dumbest mistakes anyone made in the whole series was Robert not having any other witnesses present when he had Ned write his will.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

Just pulled out my copy of GoT. Grand Maester Pycelle and Renly were both there to witness.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

pg. 506

Paperback

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

although Renly didn’t exactly end up being useful therefor.

Maybe jp assumed the will was sealed closed. I think the seal was just under the signature.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea

It ended up not mattering anyway. The point stands that Ned got his ass outmaneuvered time and time again.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

really? for some reason I remember them doing the whole thing alone. never mind then.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned was the only one in the room when the letter was actually being signed. He presented the sealed document to Renly & Pycelle afterward.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

so i was right

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

I mean, I don’t have the book in front of me so we could both be wrong. But I’m a giant fucking nerd so I trust me.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

my brother has my copy with him in DC right now

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, an RTF

Yeah, he sends everyone away but Ned.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

not to make a mountain out of a molehill

but I suppose that’s what I do best.

Anyway, the whole point of having witnesses to a signature on a will is to vouch that the decedent has signed it knowingly, and I am fairly certain that’s what GRRM is saying. The document was “sealed” in the sense that a signet ring was placed into hot wax on the signature, not literally “sealed” in the sense of an envelope. You might also be confusing these with the letter to Stannis, which was “sealed” in the sense of being closed from view.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

correct in that Renly & Pycelle saw the actual letter

But they were not present when Robert was dictating it.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it would’ve mattered. Cersei seems to consider it authentic, and tears it up anyway.

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha yeah

There is also that. I guess the only relevant thing would have been Ned managing to tell Robert about “his” children, in front of witnesses or otherwise.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think if Ned had vocalized the incest that so many in the court had known about, that might’ve made a difference. But he probably still would’ve ended up in the Black Cells.

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

by the time the palace is stuffed with banners and armored knights and mercenaries, who signed what when is kinda not going to matter. Cf. Stark, Ned, outclassed.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah that's true

what really killed Ned there was writing the letter to Stannis immediately, rather than following Littlefinger’s advice

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That and the fact

that Littlefinger was a back-stabbing liar.

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He was a buyable backstabbing liar though.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

eh, doubt it

He was setting up to screw Ned from the start. Leaving aside his intentions for Catelyn (or Sansa), his whole plan depended on chaos.

I think if Ned had taken his advice, he would have just found some other way to fuck him over.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Ned was pretty much screwed from the time he decided to be the Hand

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was known.

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eventually, perhaps. But he is pragmatic above all – if Ned had given him a better deal than the Lannisters (Hand? Regent?) he would have taken it.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

mebbe

I think he and Varys both wanted Ned far away from their operations.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

We don’t yet know enough about Petyr’s ultimate motive to be sure about this one, I guess; we know he wants power, and we know he thrives in chaos, and we know he wanted the kingdom destabilized. As to why…?

But I feel fairly confident in saying he had a personal reason to remove Ned Stark from the playing board; that being, Catelyn.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what he'd think of current Catelyn

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

handy for cooling the bed in summer!

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should have trusted the eunch!

probably not.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

that doesn't matter

that’s the point of witnessing a will, you need not see it signed, you merely need to vouch for who’s signing it, which they couldn’t do in the first place if it’s closed and sealed before they do.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned would have done his due diligence regarding the actual administration of the realm (which I think he did fine at), as a matter of honor, rather than attempt to take the crown, which made him a good candidate for Hand.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's arguable

Ned would have made a poor king of Westeros as it was at the time of Robert’s death. However, later events give a new perspective on Ned’s legacy and the kind of Lord Paramount he was.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned would have been a great king

If not for all the political maneuverings around him

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s like saying Rowand would be a great hitter if they would stop throwing breaking pitches to him.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

level?

Wasn’t it something like 4 to 1 in favor of Renly? Oh, Renly. All the looks and charisma of Robert none of the fighting acumen.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

/prays

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

As in, negate Stannis’s vastly superior tactical & strategic expertise by having way more dudes.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

true that

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

meh

numbers have never been more important than skill and strategy in the history of warfare.

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Genghis Khan FTW!

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who conquered due to his superior tactics vis-a-vis the countries he conquered. Do you know anything about anything?

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I’m misreading your comment…superior tactics/skill > numbers no?

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You’re creating a dichotomy that doesn’t exist. The fact that the Mongols had “numbers” (which I’m not even sure is true) is less relevant to their success than their mastery, as Kestrel says below, of a method of warfare against which China, Persia, Russia and Arabia had little defense.

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not my statement at all…Mongol were usually numerical inferior to their opponents . But the tactics employed were awesome.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that’s what I said.

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay… my original comment was in support of you.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought

Genghis Khan conquered cause he had archers that could shoot from horseback, something no one else had (kinda like Khal Drogo).

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was also a master tactician…feint attacks, fake retreats, siege warfare, psychological warfare, encircling/outmanuevering his opponents, etc…

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Why are you arguing?

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That’s a rhetorical question, right

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He’s paid to do so!

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

fish gotta swim

birds gotta fly!

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Stirrups!

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lol

That’s one way to put it, yes.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it bad if I'm kind of team Stannis at this point?

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considering the alternatives?

Not really.

He’s fucked, of course. Kinslaying.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how aware he was of what the deal with the shadow babies was.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure he knows the exact details, but IMO he definitely knows that he’s responsible for Renly’s death – he implies as much to Davos when he’s sending him to row under Storm’s End.

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If he ditches the creepy lady, I'd be on board

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Stannis as a general is very highly regarded. It’s Stannis as a political leader that is problematic.

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So he’s George Washington or Truman.

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Was Truman a good general? I mean Ike and MacArthur did most of the general work no?

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Not sure….jim?

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harry S Truman was president of the United States.

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Or Ulysses S Grant.

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monster

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a great comp.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

now that I'm thinking on this

I think GRRM is doing what David Simon did in The Wire. All the adults, at least, are poor choices.

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Renly?

Ob Renly?

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Ned remind anyone else of Brutus from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar...

he tries to do the honorable thing to a fault….

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by 1ManWolfPack on Aug 9, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except Ned didn’t stab anyone in the back.

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But if it was the honorable thing to do...

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

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by 1ManWolfPack on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ned as king would have been like Jimmy Carter. Renly is Obama. Stannis is like Goerge Bush, Sr.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

what does that make Melisandre?

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marget Thatcher.

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.

by 1ManWolfPack on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oliver North?

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who would be Calvin Coolidge?

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

Tyrion would clearly be Clinton.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's one of my favorite characters...

I just started the second book.

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by 1ManWolfPack on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aegon the Unlikely

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Renly as Obama?

I don’t see it. I would put Renly more as George Bush Jr – Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, got where he was due to allies, likely to be controlled by those that ‘serve’ him (Tyrells, esp. The Queen of Thorns).

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see him as Obama – loved by many for his charisma.

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh crap, I started an orgy in the champagne room.

Sorry. But to me Obama isn’t that different from GWB in those ways, but he’s way prettier.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I guess I just have a different political POV :)

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe, maybe not. To me, the US has become like Westeros, practically ungovernable.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

“has become”

It’s always been fractured, save for World War II and the Fifties, which were an aberration.

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, but they’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not enough communists now

need Cobra Commander to appear and united the nation.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

aye

But I really don’t want to think about it right now. The DOW’s up 430 points. All is right with the world.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The faultlines dividing the United States have existed since the founding of the colonies. They only recur in various permutations; they never go away.

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re easier to ignore when everyone has a job.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ignoring the divisions is not a good thing to do.

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t advocating.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

/turns on KNBR

first caller starts griping about firing Bam-Bam

/turns off KNBR

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder: do these people think they are the first ones to come up with this idea?

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

In his defense… Brooks did start to say something like “Now hold on, where were you last year when the Giants were hitting all those homeruns in September? Were you calling in saying the hitting coach deserves a raise???” I missed the rest cuz by then I’d turned it off.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most of the hosts defend Bam-Bam. He’s not the one out there hitting.

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by 1ManWolfPack on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's be fair

Bam Bam is not the one hitting. However, when a team isn’t hitting, something has to change. A hitting coach CAN and SHOULD make a difference. Look no further than the D’bags wretched pre-season roster and see what Baylor has done with their hitters – mostly, Young and Upton. The D’bags hitters are effin’ scared straight to try to do “things their own way” – can you imagine coming back to the dugout after striking out on three pitches EVERY time and having to look at Matt Williams, Kirk Gibson and Don Baylor?? three of the more intense players in their day. I believe the Giants have considerable more talent than the Snakes yet here we are.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK - "Every time" is an exaggeration

but holy jumping fuck, why does it seem like Rowand & Andres fall into this category (and at times, Huff and Cody)? Way too many ABs without challenging the pitcher.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

BamBam defends himself:

The issue here is not whether we broke a few bats, or took a few liberties with our runners on base; we did. (winks) But you can’t hold a whole team responsible for the behavior of a few hacking goofballs. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole team system? And if the whole team system is guilty, then isn’t this an indictment of our coaching staff in general? (the other coaches cheer; BamBam addresses the original poster directly) I put it to you, Myemail21479 Isn’t this an indictment of our entire American society? (the coaches cheer again) Well, you can do what you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you bad-mouth the United States of America! Gentlemen!
(BamBam packs his lunchbox and leaves the room; the other coaches follow, humming "The Star-Spangled Banner")

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a response to Myemail’s torrid campaign against Muelens in another post.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Young and Upton were already good. I don’t think you can credit either of them to the hitting coach.

by boonitez on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

need to rewind

Upton and Young (in particular Young) a train wreck before Baylor arrived. Undisciplined, free swinging, etc. When asked, Upton and Young credit Baylor.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Young hasn’t changed at all; he’s still undisciplined and free swinging. He was actually a better hitter last year. As for Upton, he was excellent long before Baylor came around.

by boonitez on Aug 9, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s fair to fire someone because a bunch of fans think correlation = causation. There is also not one thing in your post that is a persuasive indictment of the Giants’ hitting coach. I mean, what, he’s not scary enough? I don’t get it.

I don’t have enough information to make this call. I don’t know what he’s doing. I don’t know what he’s not doing. I don’t know what they’re ignoring that he’s telling them. Maybe they’d be even worse without him. None of us know. If there’s a hitting coach who can make Orlando Cabrera, Aubrey Huff and Aaron Rowand into good hitters, by all means, get him in there. I just seriously doubt it.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beltran

It is easy to say now, but I think that when Posey and Sanchez were lost for the season, with Huff regressed, with Burrell non-existant, with Tejada/Crawford at SS, and with the reality that the Braves, Phillies, Yankees, and Red Sox are all demonstrably better teams, that it was a mistake to trade the top prospect in a very weak system for 2 months of a very good hitter who is prone to injury. Yes, I realize the window of great pitching is going to close, but if I were making the decisions, I would have put aside the fantasy of repeating as World Series Champs, and I would have aimed toward 2012 knowing that Posey and Sanchez would return, as would all of the major pitching pieces. I would hope for a significant contribution from Brandon Belt. I would then concentrate on finding an acceptable option at SS and on upgrading a corner OF spot in the offseason. I would take Aaron Rowand and Barry Zito and put them in a canoe. I would give Aubrey Huff an ultimatum to show up at ST in good shape and tell him that he has exactly one month to demonstrate that he is a better hitter than Marvin Benard.

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I disagree

Beltran was supposed to the catalyst i.e. Buster. He was to help pick up a struggling lineup. The pickup was a risk but a good risk. I wouldn’t blame Sabean for make the gamble.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pipe-dream. Posey is/was too important. There are simply too many holes to fill on this shit-bag of an offense, and Beltran does not address the fact that they have 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th place hitters consisting of Aubrey Huff, Orlando Cabrera, Rowand/Nate/Ross, and Eli Whiteside

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pre-Posey Giants was pretty bad.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make it hapn capn

best laid plans say “sit tight and play for next year”. The problem with that is that injuries are impossible to predict and there is no telling where we will be next year – on paper, we should challenge for the Division Title once again. But when the opportunity is so close to your nose that you can lick it, you better get busy and bury your face. That is what the Giants did and it was the right move.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus

if you did “sit tight and play for next year” you could justify giving your rookies some playing time.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

But when the opportunity is so close to your nose that you can lick it, you better get busy and bury your face.

Somewhere some drunk bachelor is having this exact thought at a strip club and will spend the night in jail…

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah

this was a horrid trade, I cannot believe the McCoven hive has bought into it. The team’s chances of a repeat were improved by so little with the addition of Beltran that it makes no sense at all.

The only reason I can see that it was done is for the appearance of making of effort by Sabean even though it has been clear for months that this team has little chance of repeating.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

FOR THE MOTHERFUCKING SWARM!!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I TOO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE SWARMLORD

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

There were plenty of people that were against it, or not thrilled with it. I just think that maybe those who were happy about it made more noise.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it was ridiculous for Sabean to add the best available bat during the trade deadline for a team that had the 2nd best record in the NL and was struggling offensively…utterly ridiculous.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I go back and forth on this.

If they think this ups their chances of re-signing him, I’m ok with the deal because then it does make the 2012 team much better.

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think they can afford him with $46MM on the books for Row, Zito, and Huff? And do you think they should resign him for what is bound to be a lot of $$ given his age and durability?

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a word, yes

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by OmahaGiants on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

it’s just a matter of years. I think Giants would be fine with 2/25-30 million.

Sabean’s new MO seems to be no longterm contracts.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it'd be 3/45

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt Sabean will go for three guaranteed years…club/mutual option 3rd

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt Boras will accept less than 3 years.

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL 37 year old outfielder who can barely run at 34

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

He looks fine running to me

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, couple triples already

If he stays off the DL, he’s a perfectly cromulent athlete. (And yes, I realize this is true of most players.)

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

but

he’s now been tainted with DeRosacea.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, but

what about the “Zito Discount” from Boras? It is hard to belly up to the table when the fucking hurricane is still destroying the beach house. Fuck you Scott Boras and fuck your free agents. (I know this is irrational, but that is what the last two weeks has done to me).

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huff got 2/22 so don’t you think the starting point will be 2/30 and in reality it will be 2/35 which means that the payroll is at $63MM with just Rowand, Zito, Huff, and Beltran.

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Rowand comes off the books in 2013 and will likely get trade or DFA next year

Huff will be done the year after.

Zito has a way to go though…

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

but those contract costs are on the books for 2012 no matter what happens to any of them

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure but they have money to spend right now…even more money if the Giants make it to the playoffs.

Also no Miggy…long term commitments are what really kills a team.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

but if they resign Beltran, the payroll burden of Zito, Rowand, Huff, and Betran will be at least $63MM in 2012.

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup…but again…Giants won with a payroll in the 60 million range (excluding Rowand, Zito, Renteria). Beltran will just be the extra money from the playoffs.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok sure. I still think the correct and reality-based approach would have been to sign him in the off-season and build toward next year. If Sabes was so hell-bent on trading his best prospect, he could do so during the Winter or next season at the trade deadline.

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh God

Now THAT is a foundation we can build upon. "Let’s bring up the prospects and show them how Major League Baseball is played the “GIANT WAY”"

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a little unfair

If memory serves me, Huff actually got an offer from another team that he gave the Giants right of first refusal. It was actually real nice of him…

Also 11 million is about 2.5 WAR…he also got that money in part because of the 3rd year would be a club option.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why you play the games

Nobody knows how the Giants would hit after the trading deadline. All you can do is to give yourself a chance. That risk is the cost of doing business.

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants should have traded their entire farm system for Hunter Pence

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Giants Farm System IS Area 51 - Alien Sighting Confirmed"

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just think too much emphasis was placed on repeating. I understand the pitching window was narrow, but why not just reconcile that this year was lost and put all the resources toward 2012?

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because this is baseball. Anything can happen in baseball when you get into the playoffs. And the division is so so winnable.

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is a limit to that logic. there has to be…

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. That’s why they didn’t trade for Hunter Pence.

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, consider last August/September. The pitching staff went like three weeks without giving up more than 3 runs in a game. A league average offense (which isn’t what we have at this moment) can seriously contend with that pitching.

by Duelling Brandos on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

you take your chances when you can. There is no guarantees as to how this team will be this year. Giants have been really lucky with the health of their pitchers and the emergence of Vogelsong.

Beltran was more for the post-season…no one thought that Giants were going to suck so badly this last week.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have a run differential of -12 which gives them an exp record of 56-60 and would put them at 18/30 teams in MLB. The question is not why they have sucked for a week. It is how have they not sucked all year?

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I recall Owlcroft’s analysis properly, the Giants were within a few games of projected.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

mince comes from the current ESPN.com site which says:

*ExW-L and ExWP are derived from Bill James’ Pythagorean theorem of baseball: Runs scored [squared] / (Runs scored [squared] + runs allowed [squared]). This formula was designed to relate a team’s runs scored and runs allowed to its won-lost record.

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most systems agree. For the amount of hits/runners/extra base hits/etc we’ve had, we’ve scored way less runs than expected. This can be explained mostly by how poorly we’ve hit w/ RISP.

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

i will believe you but will have a hard time doing so

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

so maybe there’s something to this clutchiness that I’ve been hearing about.

/strawhats

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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

/claims ribeyes

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our BABiP in those situations is crazy low.

I’d lean toward the bad luck side, but still wouldn’t expect it to improve too much.

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

The ideal is to work towards getting in the playoffs for a number of years consecutively.
You have to balance the needs of the present and the future. Developing your own, cost controlled, talent is very important. Emptying the farm might increase your chances somewhat this year, but it also guarantees famine in upcoming years. One has to be judicious. I think Cabrera is the move I regret.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just did not see much value from Neal either in production or as a tradable commodity.

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's the combination of value lost & value returned

Giving up Neal for a possible stretch piece, I can take. Giving up something for Orlando Cabrera, I could live with. But put together it leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

fair enough… but in a year, we will not remember either one of those tastes. but if wheeler develops into a front line starter….

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a risk worth taking. Also Dick Tidrow.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll say it again

no one here knows exactly what Tidrow thinks of Wheeler. It is pure speculation from some wording from Sabean who has a vested interest in making it appear that the trade was blessed by his minions.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re right…Sabean was clearly throwing his must trusted advisor under the bus.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems I deal better the struggles of defensively gifted youngsters that at least have some hope of improvement (Crawford) than with aging vets that other teams have already decided no longer can play SS every day (Cabrera). In that light, giving up anything – even the wan hope of a future cheap fourth outfielder – makes me unhappy.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

"You play to win the game!"

Lol dungy

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by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Swing and a miss.

"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing." -Jerry Reynolds

by Juan Primo on Aug 9, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Close call

I was against trading Wheeler for Beltran. But I understand why they did it. They have a chance to repeat. The last time that happened was in ’55.

Here is the thing: If the Giants make the playoffs anything can happen. We all know that over 162 games the Giants were no where near as good a team as the Phillies last year. But that didn’t matter.

The key is to get in. Then maybe lightning strikes twice. Beltran increased the odds significantly of winning the division.

by lexluth7 on Aug 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

From a business standpoint, you can’t punt a season when you’re in first place. People aren’t going to want the product you’re selling if you do that.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not advocating that they stop playing. I was just saying that the cost of Beltran was high for what I perceive to be a small chance of radically improving the team. I am not sure the team is that much better than if they had kept Wheeler and made Brandon Belt the starting LF.

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

One player in two months just isn’t going to improve your odds that much. I would think the stat heads here would understand that.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Having a better hitter in the lineup during the playoffs might come in handy.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also influence the rest of the lineup i.e. move Huff out of the clean up spot.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cleanup Huff is cleaning up

JaymeeSireCSN Jaymee Sire
#sfgiants lineup tonight…no Beltran: Torres cf Keppinger 2b Sandoval 3b Huff 1b Schierholtz rf Cabrera ss Ross lf Stewart c Bumgarner p

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Fine. Whatever.

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by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

an argument could be made that Bumgarner should be batting clean-up

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is his avg with RISP

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

who cares

there won’t be any.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's look at the optimized lineup for the June 12 game

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN201106120.shtml

The results:

1. Andres Torres CF
2. Cody Ross LF
3. Brandon Crawford SS
4. Jonathan Sanchez P
5. Nate Schierholtz RF
6. Aubrey Huff 1B
7. Miguel Tejada 3B
8. Chris Stewart C
9. Emmanuel Burriss 2B

That lineup would score a whopping 3.373 runs a game. If you click the link, you can see that almost all the worst lineups have Sanchez batting ninth.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i don’t understand

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just setting up the ol' 4-6-3

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huff actually doesn't hit it hard enough to GiDP that often.

It normally just turns into a good ol’ fashioned 4-3.

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

True he doesn't hit it hard enough

But he makes up for it by running slow enough.

by ABIJXY on Aug 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant the runner on first will beat a throw to 2nd and they will only make the out at first.

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by Azmanz on Aug 9, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Rowand

O frabjous day!

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

even a pooper needs a day now and then

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by son of ggf on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

His vorpal blade needed a rest from snicker-snacking at sliders in the dirt

Giants baseball: We'll take it.

by TheAntiBork on Aug 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't think Rowand's blade is anywhere near vorpal.

"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson

"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.

by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Caloo Callay!!

"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson

"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.

by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least no Rowand.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also like Torres being in the lineup two days in a row.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

what the fuck is a mike fontenot

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was all set for a KeppinHobbit platoon….

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

a hobbit

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cannot wait for .......

The Hobbit.

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this real?

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.

by 1ManWolfPack on Aug 9, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes it is.

"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Fili and Kili were twins…they were always my favs.

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.

by 1ManWolfPack on Aug 9, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kili was my first kitty.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

They weren’t twins.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hrm...maybe it's my memory being warped by the cartoon.

They’re related to Thorin, right?

"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"

"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.

by 1ManWolfPack on Aug 9, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nephews.

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by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

I need to find my copy of the Hobbit again

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by Badly Browned on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The new Bill Hall

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay, Cosmos episode 5 tonight.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

no beltran = scoring a maximum of 2 runs.

by aniln on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beltran is broken

And Ross instead of Nads because of small sample success against Old McDonald is as predicted.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huff will get plenty, tho.

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fine. Whatever.

I’m numb at this point. I could read that McCovey & Mays were suiting up and I would be like, “Meh. At least they’re not Rowand.”

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I too teared up when Rowand got his standing o in Chicago

during the Bears game. I was crying because he no longer was with the White Sox and instead was and is f*****G up right and left in SF.

by lexluth7 on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Did anyone see this?

Big Time Timmy Jim’s fan contest.

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

IDK about you,

but that’s the first thing I would go for.

by fishmicmuffin on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

This looks natto'd

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shopped.

I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.

by shanghaijim on Aug 9, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

what you don't see ......

is the mob of tweens chasing the rioters.

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Allow me to be the first (of many) to rec this.

Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?

by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

/allows it

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay, my profile pic all art-ified!

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by TheAntiBork on Aug 9, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man

This tetanus shot I got yesterday is killing me. My arm where I got the shot is sore and I’m really fatigued, like I"m getting close to being sick.

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by thehavenot on Aug 9, 2011 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

it’s better than tetanus

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now there's a tagline!

"All right pie, I'm just going to do this. [chomp, chomp] And if you get eaten, it's your own fault."

by Woody'sShed on Aug 9, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants baseball: it's marginally better than tetanus

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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

But when I watch it my jaws lock in rage.

"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson

"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.

by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

a professor of mine in medical school used to describe walking through the tetanus wards in vietnam during the war. If they let the door slam too hard, the entire room full of patients would develop tetany (they would stiffen like a board).

by capn on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

could be on to something

“if stiffy lasts more than 4 hours, please call your doctor”

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would assume so

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by thehavenot on Aug 9, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

A doctor once described dying from tetanus to me. It sounded like the worst death imaginable.

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!

by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was researching it after cutting my hand

It does not look good at all

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by thehavenot on Aug 9, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got one this morning

Hopefully I don’t experience the same thing, although I’ve been mentally preparing for it.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was prepared for a sore arm

But then it got worse today. And I didn’t expect the fatigue

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by thehavenot on Aug 9, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That always happens to me. It may be too late for you to ice it and take some anti-inflammatories. I usually end up with this big ole rock of muscle at the injection site. It goes away in 3-4 days. Hurray for only needing to get one of those every 10 years.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just looked over the ASOIAF sub-thread

and realized that I am a massive dork.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

the best kind

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

A line from a Childish Gambino (aka Donald Glover) song

that I think is very appropriate:

“Hov-y with glasses, Weezy but geeky.”

Could apply to most of the McCoven I think

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO U!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

ONE OF US

ONE OF US

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

............. uhhhh ..............

/ washes eyes out with soap.

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by GIANT stoner on Aug 9, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's amazing how terrible our offense is.

We have a shitty Catcher, 1b, SS, CF and the Pitcher can never hit.

So that leaves 4 average to good offensive players in Beltran, Sandoval, Keppinger and Nate.

I don’t understand how Belt is not being played over Huff.

by Anonymous1337 on Aug 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Question

is Beltran living up to the criticism he received in New York about not always playing when he could have? If any team needs a bat in the lineup, it’s this team. A strain on the back of the hand seems flimsy, I would like to see him try it out.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ll let him know.

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by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the criticism is not legit

He carried both the Mets and the Astros to the playoffs and hit .366/.485/.817 in 4 postseason series (101 PAs)

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously?

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by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s a shellfish player. They tried to warn us.

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by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whenever he was asked the hard questions during interviews, he’d clam up.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whadda shrimp.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He could even be the pearl of our organization.

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m holding out for September’s scallops.

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by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just don’t get all crabby about it.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially if Crawdad doesn't play.

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Crawdad doesn’t play the situation will go from bad to urchint

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should flex a little mussel and get over it.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re not the bass of him!

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

His 1st HR was a fluke.

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by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a good one.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he’ll winkle in your direction.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

this would warm my cockles

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beltran sits out two games and already he’s anemone?

"All right pie, I'm just going to do this. [chomp, chomp] And if you get eaten, it's your own fault."

by Woody'sShed on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The doctor said to take two aspirin and calamari in the morning.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should be tuna’d to the vibe here by now, but I’m floundering for something to say.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beltran thinks this line of criticism is full abalone.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It takes a real manta admit he needs a couple days off.

"All right pie, I'm just going to do this. [chomp, chomp] And if you get eaten, it's your own fault."

by Woody'sShed on Aug 9, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t want to lobster his throws.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then he referred him to a top sturgeon.

by maysian on Aug 9, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's really crabby too.

"It feels awesome. Feels like when you were a kid and every guy gets a chance to be a hero, then you eat orange slices and kool-aid after the game. Except we’re nailing champagne right now." —Brian Wilson

"He just threw me a fastball in and I just put a good swing on the ball, and you know when you put a good swing on the ball, the ball go out."
-Egdar Renteria commenting on his solo home run in the 5th inning of Game 2.

by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 9, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does he have mussels?

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather he be at 100% than risk further injury.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

We already have one Flappy wrist taking up a roster spot

Why take the chance getting two?

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by Badly Browned on Aug 9, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 for 1 special on flappy wrists now at Tendons ’n More !!

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

For sucking, or for saying bad things about SF?

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!

by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

No…he stated that it was not his intent and bashing Schulman

He wish he could play 162 games and bat 4th or 5th in the lineup.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s blaming Schulman for inciting the fans’ reaction against him. I think the only thing Schulman did was one tweet with a link to the Sun-Times interview.

by QuakeFan on Aug 9, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's pretty good at riding the pine.

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

and is well compensated for doing so

by slapsy on Aug 9, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Believe it or not

He CAN do that, it just wouldn’t be pretty.

That is cray-z.

by DrDC on Aug 9, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love how the team was all, “Aaron, for your punishment, you have to go on KNBR.” Is he being “interviewed” by Ralph? That would be even funnier.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

indeed what happened

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you accept the fact that he is a-hole.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once you accept that, he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll meet.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once you accept the fact that Rowand is a shitty hitter, batting him leadoff every game is a helluva good idea.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, batting him leadoff has proved less damaging than batting him lower where he can stop rallies in their tracks.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know not these “rallies” of which you speak. I would hear more of these.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I admit I did not see last night’s game, but didn’t Rowand GIDP twice with 2 men on base? Or was that Cabrera?

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, you’re right. I was just being snarky. And a little sad that nowadays we have to consider 2 men on base a rally.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

But isn’t it? Especially with <2 outs.

Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yes. But today we would be thrilled with even getting one of those guys home. The bar has been lowered.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least the hobbits can now easily get a drink.

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by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

hear, hear!

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whereas the Giants <3 outs.

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually

liked that little interchange.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

what did Rowy say

about “context”? I came in halfway through, when he was bashing Schulman. He kept saying it was taken out of context, so I was wondering what the context was.

I think it’s cool he attempted to respond.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be just like Boras to tell Beltran to shut it down.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

No, it wouldn’t.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

"wait three days after you start to feel better

let the anemic Giants offense extend their 4 for 40 with RISP, let them watch Huff in the 4 hole continue to fail, then they will appreciate you even more"

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

because the Giants would have no interest in signing him then.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He knows the Giants won't re-sign him.

Not to question Beltran’s integrity but he is “auditioning” after all.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree

I think he’s auditioning…especially if he shows any injury risk at all.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet he’s thinking that, at the end of the season, GMs will forget him taking some injury time off more easily than they would forget him sucking because of it.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually

I’m agreeing with you…misread.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm more of this opinion

Boras knows Beltran will not be a Giant next year because Sabes will go down the path of a heavier loaded 2 year agreement and Boras won’t be completely satisfied unless he gets Carlos a contract in the 4-5 year range. The dude has already spent a fair amount of time being “broken” in New York. I don’t see a 2 year contract being an option for Boras and he knows it.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know a lot of people dislike Boras

but he hasn’t done anything bad per se…he just does his job very well.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand you don't like Boras

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like Boras taking advantage of our overmatched GM.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

?

Other than Zito (who was a Magowan signing) which other Boras client has Sabean signed?

Also, see Alex Rodriguez, JD Drew, Andruw Jones, Soriano, Dice-K…

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for making my point

I didn’t say Sabes was in line by himself, he is in very good company. We just don’t have the “let’s get fucked by Scott Boras” margin, like the Yankees and Red Sox have.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

But my original point was that Sabean hasn’t really been overmatched by Boras.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

correct

oh for a gigantic 1. a $126 million mistake, never mind me, I will just sweep it under the rug and maybe nobody will notice. Oh for fuck sakes, there is no more room under the rug….somebody has already swept Scott and Aubrey there.

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by Penitentiary Face on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

See, Peter Magowan.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops, Rowand just said “shit storm” on the radio.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Shouldn’t he be taking BP?

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by bgunn on Aug 9, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

No need…natural swing

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s too busy complaining about Schulman.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

does it help?

I hear he always has good swings in BP

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Poopin Practice

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by nvsfg on Aug 9, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

for reals?

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish Razor would ask him

whether he intends on returning any of his salary?

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ralph just told him that people will remember him as “always being a gamer.”

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently he thinks none of this would have happened if Schulman hadn’t tweeted the link.

by QuakeFan on Aug 9, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one uses the Internets!

Just twitter.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he’s probably right. It probably would’ve been a heart-warming story in Chicago and relatively unnoticed in the Bay.

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still don't get it

All Schulman did was to retweet the Q&A…it’s not like Schulman revealed something off the record.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Linked to, not retweeted.

https://twitter.com/#!/hankschulman/status/100811200178298880

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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grr

https://twitter.com/hankschulman/status/100811200178298880

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by troymccluresf on Aug 9, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He tweeted:

Did not get to ask Rowand about interview in which he disses S.F. We’ll ask tomorrow. Read to bottom. Here’s the link: bit.ly/oEoPS1.

[My emphasis.]

I think that’s what Rowand is talking about.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess

but the interview is pretty obvious.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure that, without that commentary, the shit storm would have happened anyway. But, that’s Rowand’s beef. Maybe it’s silly, but Schulman did, in fact, state that Rowand dissed SF. Rowand clearly thinks that no one would have thought that without Schulman’s tweet.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know about Schulman’s addition but he’s just lashing out.

I’m pretty sure he doesn’t like it in SF for fairly obvious reasons.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand is just lashing out

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why I said:

I’m pretty sure that, without that commentary, the shit storm would have happened anyway.

Apparently some other SF Chron writer wrote on the Splash blog about it, and he thinks that Rowand got confused and thought it was Schulman. But, that writer didn’t really say much except to quote the last part of the article.

Here’s the info:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/detail?entry_id=95011

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

But

did Rowand diss SF or not? Perhaps this is the problem.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

To me there is some slight there
Because it said ‘Chicago’ across the front. I got goose bumps every time I would put it on.

JC: Not so with San Francisco?

Rowand: [Pause] Let’s talk about the Bears again.

He’s not even from Chicago (he’s from Oregon)…He could have said something there but didn’t.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a self-hating, possibly in-the-closet Oregonian, maybe showing San Francisco pride in front of his butch Chicago buddies makes him uncomfortable.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should probably stop waving his bat like a wang every time he bats, then.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he stopped himself from saying “Way better” or “doesn’t even compare”.

It was an amusing little mix-up, but I’m not going to harp on it.

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by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe the reporter missed his point and he just wanted to talk about the Bears.

by Every6thDay on Aug 9, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, and I thought that I was explaining that Rowand’s beef is that Schulman said that he dissed SF when he did not.

CalBear949 thought that Schulman did not render an opinion on the article. He did, in that tweet. That’s why I posted that tweet with the bold. To show why Rowand was mad at Schulman.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

If someone calls that a “diss”, I wouldn’t challenge them on it, but that’s not how I would characterize it.

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by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I missed Rowand’s explanation for his comments (which Henry should have apparently asked him about before starting the “shit storm”). Was it helpful? T

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He said something along the lines of he is from Chicago

the first team he played for was Chicago, he rooted for Chicago teams, so he felt a point of pride wearing Chicago unis.

Then they asked him a SF question in the middle of an interview about Chicago teams, so he was thrown off.

by freesia39 on Aug 9, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I did hear some of it. Hm. Doesn’t sound that persuasive, but I think I’m over it anyway. I feel like he more or less apologized. He also said that if he has to wear it from the fans tonight, he will and that’s part of the game.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

he didn’t have to say anything.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

But

he’s not from Chicago…he was born in Portland, went to HS in Glendora, went to Cal State Fullerton.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The interview mentions he grew up a bears fan in CA.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just like TL2, who grew up a bears fan in AL!

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Former Rams fans are outraged.

by QuakeFan on Aug 9, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's not from chicago...

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Reminds me of this guy:

Someone check for a Sox jersey under his Giants jersey.

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I wonder if he saw any #RowandFacts.

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Pithy.

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my favorite
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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He took a nasty shit.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gamer

Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est?

by shikantaza on Aug 9, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gritty

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Post shit speech: No man is an island, but shit sure is!

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Crapulence Commotion

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shitstorm Stir-up

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Turd Tornado

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he's out.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

3 Pitch Strikeout?

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by calgiants86 on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

Just recounting Rowand’s departure from KNBR.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, why not watch the A's game, starting now.

Against mighty Toronto, picked by many to compete in the East.

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by gallo del cielo on Aug 9, 2011 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Jose Bautista

last 28 days: 80 PAs…222/.363/.381

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than 8/9 of our lineup!

by fishmicmuffin on Aug 9, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

I’m just wondering if he’s injured, hit a slump, or have pitchers kinda of figured him out.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

they banned his elk penis creme

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

elk was one of those, right?

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rowand won’t even try non-Chicago 3 penis wine #Rowandfacts

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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He keeps that shit up for about 7 more years and Sabes will sign him.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

These tea leaves are predicting low scores

Anyone up for tonight’s game? I gots an extra ticket.

by biff pocoroba on Aug 9, 2011 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Going, going, gone.

Heading to Caltrain now, and I won’t be able to see any additional posts. So, perhaps next time.

by biff pocoroba on Aug 9, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that as well

Yet Schulman is going on KNBR to talk about the issue.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

this whole thing is a stalking horse to get support for google’s real names on G+

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoever runs the SF Giants twitter is rather gullible.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha!

Speaking of “Friend of Lasorda”, though,
They’re coming out with a film about Glenn Burke.

Shoot, I can’t find the link.

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lol!

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

probably just overly cautious about offending. think of how many moronic things they must have to shuffle through.

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by DrStankus on Aug 9, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd

and hopefully one of you losers is already hard at work to provide words and music.

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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ralph and Tom have no idea what's going on.

They now think Schulman didn’t write anything about Rowand.

by QuakeFan on Aug 9, 2011 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Again....
Update from Mark Smoyer:

A Chronicle colleague has told me that Aaron Rowand recently spoke on KNBR about the Q&A noted below and that he felt Henry Schulman was responsible for this post. I want to be clear that Schulman had nothing to do with it.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/giants/detail?entry_id=95011

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Rowand wasn’t talking about the Smoyer blog post, he was talking about Schulman’s tweet from last night.

by QuakeFan on Aug 9, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

So, there’s Jenkins’ Zitogate, and the CSN Burrell twittergate…

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The AJ love does explain the double plays….

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

My God, you’re right. Get the number of that hypnotist. If Bochy can quit dipping then Rowand can quit A.J.

by younghutch on Aug 9, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The lineup looks a lot better with him in it

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently Bochy said that Burrell is flying out tomorrow to somewhere (Urban’s tweet is really lacking in detail) to get another opinion on his injury. Not close to a return.

If they’re faking the DL stint, they’re really going overboard.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Polar Expedition!

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, in a way it’s good. Maybe it means that Bochy doesn’t really value Burrell so little.

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Jaymee to the rescue

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North Carolina. of course.

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by son of ggf on Aug 9, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Research Triangle!

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks! Geez Urban.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

as you do

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What

no Dr. Andrews?

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Chapel Hill? Ooooooh WEE.

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by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

College chicks!

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The foot capital of the world!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I miss Buster.

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by Tortured on Aug 9, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Freddy

and 2010 Huff and Torres

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I miss the Brandons, too.

Ah, what could have been.

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THEY’RE GETTING CAUGHT IN THEIR WEB OF LIES

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Burrell needs to dry rub his road beef.

by Every6thDay on Aug 9, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

sl

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by josematan on Aug 9, 2011 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think Rowand meant ill, but I enjoyed the #Rowandfacts tweeting all the same

Also, I hate Rowand for reasons altogether unrelated to his feelings about Chicago.

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by Murray, Present on Aug 9, 2011 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Things like #RowandFacts are funny because of the creativity and hilarity, less because of who they’re punking.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The worst part about this slump is that it shows no signs of ending soon

4 games at Atlanta means three can probably be written off, the Marlins series is troubling, and if the Giants lose the series to the Pirates of all teams, then God help us all, because the Astros bullpen could probably shut down this lineup.

It’s just really hard to see any quick fix to make to this offense unless Bochy quits being so stubborn with Huff and lets Belt play. That would at least give the team 5 reliable hitters.

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Command sequence for the final Opportunity drive to Spirit Point

Sol Seq.Ver ETH ESF EDN EFF ERP Tot Description
--——- - - - - - -- -————
02681 p0653.03 6 0 0 6 0 12 navcam_3x1_az_90_3_bpp
02681 p1211.03 2 0 0 2 0 4 ultimate_front_haz_1_bpp_pri_15
02681 p1254.02 2 0 0 2 0 4 front_haz_fault_pri15_4bpp
02681 p1312.07 2 0 0 2 0 4 rear_haz_ultimate_2_bpp_pri15
02681 p1354.01 2 0 0 2 0 4 rear_haz_fault_pri15_4bpp
02681 p1757.01 14 0 0 14 0 28 navcam_7x1_az_270_1_bpp
02681 p1994.06 1 0 0 1 0 2 nav_1x1_MovieFrame_Leye_1bpp_pri72

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

run Dingers.exe

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

can haz soil sample?

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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Glad you caught that. The drive software has been updated a couple of times since the rovers landed on Mars. Heh

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

good to know Nasa programmers are up on their memes

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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is the ETA to its destination? The huge crater right?

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by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 9, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The commands were sent today

It should be there already.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

this reminds me of the end of Spies Like Us

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doctor.

Doctor.

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by fjm on Aug 9, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

More from Hank

hankschulman Henry Schulman
I did not have Rowand’s number till he texted me this morning to yell at me. This is all I did last night: after hearing from a number….
3 minutes ago

hankschulman Henry Schulman
…. of Tweeps about the Cowley article, which I didn’t know about it, I issued on Tweet that said I didn’t get a chance to ask Rowand…
2 minutes ago
"

hankschulman Henry Schulman
…. About the story. And that we’ll ask tomorrow. The one thing I did say to Rowand today was, if I had it to do over, I would have said…
1 minute ago

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

…. The article “made it sound like he was dissing SF,” rather than he DID dis SF. This Twitter reporting is new and evolving. But fact is.

… no educated person could read that article and NOT conclude he was taking a shot at SF. If he wasn’t, his real beef is with Cowley.

by Every6thDay on Aug 9, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha-ha – all you monkeys who don’t think he was dissing SF aren’t educated!

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone said the other day

Twitter will be Schulman’s demise. This is becoming more and more true

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by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 9, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

To me it was obvious that he was slighting SF, but I’m not going to tell somebody that they’re stupid for interpreting it differently.

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

He seems very confrontational

Which is fine if you’re on the other side of it, I suppose. Not sure how great an idea it is for a reporter.

by otis29 on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

OO OOO AAAH AAAH

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol NERB! Its not me its him!!

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to see those texts!

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slow-lina had his WS ring mailed to him
JeffWilson_FWST Jeff Wilson
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#Rangers just gave Bengie Molina his AL championship ring. Molina said the Giants mailed him a World Series ring a few weeks ago.

Hope it was sent postage-due.

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

A few weeks ago?

Sounds like it was sent via covered wagon.

by otis29 on Aug 9, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sent at Molina-speed

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by Woody'sShed on Aug 9, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

sweet

hopefully postage due.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carlos Beltran could hit .500 for the next 2 months

and he still would not have been worth Wheeler. I’m not sure why everyone seems to think that Beltran getting a few more hits a week is going to make this horrid trade any better.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Well we’re trying to win the WS this year so Beltran being awesome would help with that

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suggest you re-read all the trade reaction threads and search "Beltran Wheeler" in the search box,

because it’s pretty clear why “everyone” seems to think that the trade was good for the Giants.

by Every6thDay on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

my apologies

I do realize not everyone was for the trade, I guess it just feels that way.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s fair to say there wasn’t a huge uprising against it….

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

For myself, I liked getting Beltran but wasn’t happy about the price. Mostly I’m just sad that a trade makes me want a player I like (Wheeler) to not pan out so I don’t feel bad about it.

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by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You might be surprised to find

That many people are waiting to evaluate the trade until after the season ends.

by otis29 on Aug 9, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't agree

What will the end of the season tell you? Do you think the Giants are going to repeat because of Beltran?

This is the sort of thinking that I believe led Sabean down this miserable fork in the road.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Beltran hits .500

for the next 2+ months, there’s a pretty good shot we can win the World Series which would be worth a couple of Wheelers.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's my point though

even if here were to hit .500 (which is highly unlikely) it still would not ensure anything. Hell, I don’t know if it even makes it much more likely of even making the playoffs.

Remember those mid-2000 teams with Bonds?

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except the pitching is like a whole lot better in 2011.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you’re looking to ensure success (which is, of course, impossibile), pinning your hopes on the development of a 20-year-old with inconsistant control in A+ ball isn’t really the way to go.

by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn't find the link

but there was a great analysis of the potential future of Wheeler…the best upside was Ubaldo but everyone else listed was completely unimpressive
.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are missing the point

The benefit of Beltran for 2 months vs the potential control of a decent pitching prospect isn’t even close in my opinion.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

No…your perceived value of Wheeler is driving this view.

Let’s see how many pitching prospects the Giants have traded and have done something in the MLB? Not many…if Beltran can do what he did for the Mets and Astros…it will be well worth it.

Again, the dude has a slash line of 366/.485/.817 in 101 playoff PAs

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. I get your point. I just think you’re making a pretty big assumption about Wheeler’s future.

by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

not really

even if Wheeler never makes the majors I think this was a bad deal because of the potential that is there and the control of him for several years.

Also, don’t forget the potential for using him in a trade where you actually got a player in return under contract for more than 2 months.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kurt Ainsworth says hi!

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the rental bit that gets me. Especially if he’s going to be injured for part of the rental period!

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The injury part is killing me. I feel like the Giants had a lot of things go their way last year, and this year is the exact opposite.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am vaguely of this mindset

but my thing is: if Wheeler was the price, maybe that could have been spent earlier, or maybe him + others bring someone better at SS, or Cabrera and a C, or whatnot.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You rather trade Wheeler for a backup C or an above average SS than for Beltran?

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like who?

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you would find most people agree with you, if that were the choice to be made.

by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

read please

both. And on June 1. Or Beltran on June 1.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have the impression that if we’d put Wheeler on the table that early, the other team would’ve spent a lot of time getting us to up the price, or shopping that offer around to other teams.

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by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

we'll never know

it’s possible he could have generated other offers from interested teams not including Beltran, too.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we got Beltran for Wheeler, why do you think we’d only get a backup C? I mean, he’d have to be worse than Stewart or Whitey to be a backup at this point, and that’d be terribad.

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just didn’t see that many viable trade option for SS or C on the market.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I just think:

1. The chances of him (or any) kid being an impact pitcher are incredibly slim.

2. Since he was still a good 2-3 years from contributing (if he can get a handle on his control) I have a bit of faith that, with a couple overslot deals and a half-dozen IFAs, his slot in the pipeline will likely be filled by next season.

I get feeling like it was an overpay. That’s fine. The market apparently disagreed. The fact that he’s a rental sucks. We can all agree about that. But he was the best bat on the market and we’re a team that needs offense for the next two months more than we need it next season presuming Posey and Franchez heal and Belt develops.

I understand you hate rentals, so I’m curious, would you rather have Pence for the price of Wheeler and Brown?

by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I’d rather have Belt getting some playing time and see what happens.

I should also say that I’ve felt for awhile now that this year was toast and the focus should be on next year.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Belt is a different issue all together.

And I’m going to have a hard time understanding how a season can be toast when your team is in first more than 2/3 of the way into the season and you have this pitching staff.

by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

without picking sides here…

do you believe that the offense is struggling, or that this is what we’ll see the final 7 weeks?

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by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both?

Basically, I expect players to deliver their career line or close to it. I think that’s what you have to plan for. That wouldn’t give them a great offense, but it would be better than recent results. Would that be enough? Maybe.

At the moment, on balance, they are underperforming. Will they continue to do so? No idea.

by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do I enjoy asking myself questions? Apparently.

by BestHyperboleEver on Aug 9, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do I enjoy answering them? Yes, most certainly.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ho Beltran does has zero bearing on whether this trade is good or not

The only thing that matters when looked at in retrospect is how Wheeler does. If Wheeler reaches his ceiling, nothing Beltran does will justify this trade.

If Wheeler does not becomes a front line starter or is converted to a reliever, nobody would care.

It only matters what Wheeler does, it’s never about how Beltran does.

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

HO BELTRAN!

wow.

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder who his pimp is

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

HO BELTRAN!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

HO TRAIN!

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

even if Beltran hits a walkoff HR in game 7 of the world series?

by shmolex on Aug 9, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

silly you.

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by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The best analogy I can give you is from my other decades old passion of playing poker

Just because a bad play ends up winning the pot for you doesn’t magically turn it into a good play.

Unfortunately for many players, they never learn this lesson and are forever losers always chasing that next big pot with bad plays.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

instead of saying “other players”, you could just say Bochy

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by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are assuming that you know how Wheeler is going to turn out.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

TINSTAAPP

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by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see this is a reason to hold on to pitching prospects – you never know which one will pan out and it’s best to have a bevy.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bill Stoneman says yes!

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I am TEAM SCHULMAN

because I refuse to be TEAM ROWAND?

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

and yet again

the mystery of turdburger vs. crap sandwich appears.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh come on

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by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 9, 2011 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Reynolds doesn't care what you think

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he was a butcher

at third. Apparently not.

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

As if planking weren’t stupid enough already, they go one step further and misunderstand it.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Waiting for the owling reference

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get planking

But the answer is no (but that was a great stop)

by Hyoton on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You, my friend, are a genius.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

kick it imo

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

So stop looking at it…

by Hyoton on Aug 9, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s on Chronicle Live and I like Chronicle Live

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by hankmoody on Aug 9, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Belt has ever considered light jogging

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by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

We, as a group, can't even agree on lunch or Star Wars or pie

And yet we all apparently think the same way all the time about player transactions.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

So basically

Agree on the things that don’t matter?

That is cray-z.

by DrDC on Aug 9, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will...it depends on what Jponry thinks

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because, science.

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by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 9, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

who doesn't think the same way about pie?

Obviously cake is better

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by Kestrel76 on Aug 9, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

/flagged

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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by hankmoody on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh shi-

"For science. You monster."

by KINGofCRA5H on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Paul F. Tompkins agrees with you.

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by Murray, Present on Aug 9, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

there’s nothing to disagree on about star wars

by Hyoton on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Old ones= good, new ones= bad.

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by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

But is it better than Harry Potter?

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

/avada kedavra

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by hankmoody on Aug 9, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh. Right, I forgot about that.

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by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s a difference though… I mean if you saw Star Wars in the theater, back in 1977 when it first came out you are going to have a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different impression of it than some young whippersnapper who saw it for the first time in 2003 on their hi-def tv.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno. I love the original movies, and I saw them for the first time from a VHS taping off of a television broadcast.

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by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree

but I do think even young whippersnappers today get a pretty big kick out of Star Wars.

Did you see the Deadspin article that compared HP and SW?

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

not a Potter fan…so no

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

RRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAARRRR

/star destroyer blasts onto screen, warping mind forever after

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody actually disagrees with this, do they? The only good things about the new ones are: Natalie Portman (always hot), and Mace Windu’s purple light saber.

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Creepy young anakin is creepy?

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t find Natalie Portman attractive, just like I don’t find 12 year old boys attractive.

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by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

well of course

she’s the only refugee in history to escape to the Outer Rim with 4,000 changes of clothes.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehehehehehe you said outer rim hehehehehehehehehe

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

She has no earlobes

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never looked at her ears.

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Recessive!

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by Murray, Present on Aug 9, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

earrings can be SUCH a turnoff

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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHA!

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd for truthiness

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by speckops on Aug 9, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe not natalie portman…

by Hyoton on Aug 9, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I AGREE WITH LARS

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

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My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).

by waelwulf on Aug 9, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't know if anybody has discussed this in the 4324 posts today. . .

But have we talked about Bochy’s comments from after the game last night? In addition to the “lost mojo” statement, he said something about “they just have to get it done.” Definitely not a “we just have to get it done.” Sounded kind of like he was distancing himself a bit from the clusterfuck on the field.

Anybody else? Or am I just looking for ways to hate Bochy even more (now that I’ve maximized my Rowand hate, I need to diversify a bit).

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it’s probably the last bit. ;-)

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

IS NOT!

Actually, it just stood out to me because it started of as “WE need to find our mojo” then moved on to “THEY have to get it done.” He’s not wrong – the guys have to get it done. But Bochy is the guy who decides who to play where, so it seemed odd to lay the offensive futility solely on the players that way.

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would imagine he said

THEY have to get it done as Bochy doesn’t play.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was mostly teasing you, but I also think you’re searching for something that might not be there. He has probably said “they” a million times in reference to the hitters.

I think you have plenty of other opportunities to maximize your Bochy hate, anyway. Or you could jump on the FIRE BAM BAM bandwagon. You’d have to start calling into KNBR, probably, though.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know.

Bochy is still an ass, though, right?

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s the nicest guy on the planet, for reals (and, actually, a lot smarter than people give him credit for — no, really!). So, I won’t call him an ass. But, his lineup construction and refusal to play anyone under 47 is really starting to piss me off.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think so.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAMMIT

I can still not care for his managerial abilities, then, right?

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

Well, only as it relates to the offense.

(Haha, I love you, but this is way too fun.)

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU DON'T WIN QUITE YET

I think he’s been leaving some SPs in too long, and isn’t utilizing Romo as well as he could.

So I’m not going to go overboard on praising his pitching management (anything good comes from Rags, obv).

SO I’M STILL OKAY TO NOT CARE FOR HIS MANAGERIAL ABILITIES.

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sort of won!

No, seriously, I am totally on board with Bochy dislike.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WILL NOT CONCEDE. INSTEAD I WILL SLIGHTLY CHANGE MY ARGUMENT AND TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE STILL WRONG!

Oh hey – are you going to the McCovey’s thing?

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, though I will be late, because of a baby shower. But, I think I’m going to bring cake again!

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay!

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You bringing the kiddos?

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably not – unless the fella ends up having to go to Korea. Then I’d bring the little monsters. Otherwise I’m going solo, baby!

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoo hoo! McCovey’s has really good margaritas!

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing says Giants baseball like tequila. :D

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so, I have a kiddo surprise.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

yay

Mr. Merope is pregnant!

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That WOULD be a surprise!

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

For all of us…

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh god there's gonna be kids at this thing?

someone’s going to have to bring a taser for me, I have a ridiculously foul mouth when I get going.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a restaurant there will be kids around. We can always stick any kids at their own table, I’ve got stickers for them to play with.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you just spoil the surprise?

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well only if you tell them…

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know the sleeper hold if that helps.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is frustrating, certainly.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

he says that

all the time.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he had a tendency to distance himself from on the field play, be it good or bad.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

when your head is so big that it creates its own gravity, its hard to distance yourself from anything

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by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Need a poll

http://youtu.be/tzjKwU8bwmo

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

but will there be bacteria on the seats like the last one. that is key

Walter White is Heisenberg.

by hankmoody on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love this twitter account:
BaggsCommenters ExtraBaggs Commenter
“He(Schulman) broke this because his blog traffic is way down and his job is in jeopardy’ Conspiracy????

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Emotionally I'm feeling similar to when we first picked up Freddy Sanchez.

It seemed like he imploded ten minutes after we bought him, and I was worried we’d saddled ourselves with a lousy deal, etc.

In hindsight, despite his current injury, I’m still glad we got him. Last year couldn’t have happened with the alternatives, and his absence this year has been magnified by the sad platoons we’ve been putting out for the middle infield.

Unfortunately, Beltran is a much shorter rental, and I’m curious as to what it would take for people’s opinions to change. Even if he turned it around and had a career year, there’s still the rest of the lineup. Don’t believe me? Ask the Padres; Adrian Gonzalez can only do so much.

So fine, he’s underperforming. What would be a reasonable expectation to change the minds of the skeptics?

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by breadfan7 on Aug 9, 2011 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

The thing with Freddy is that we probably could have gotten him for last year without trading for him

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe…but we don’t know how much the trade affected Freddy’s decision to come here.

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

We can only speculate but the contract we gave him was pretty big considering the 2nd base market that offseason. It all worked out and I’ve enjoyed having Freddy here but that doesn’t mean the trade was a good one.

WWRWD?

by SF Pete on Aug 9, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

My mind won't be changed on this trade

Even if Beltran was healthy and crushing the ball, I’d still think it was too much to give up for him.

If you can’t tell, I really hate rental trades especially when the price is so high. The Giants got their pockets picked on this one.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

So if Wheeler becomes a career MiLBer you would still rage…

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Don’t forget Wheeler’s potential to be used in a trade to get a decent player that would be under team control for more than 2 months.

by nofreetime on Aug 9, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's just not true

Look at what Philly gave up for Pence…a pitcher ranked higher than Wheeler, a potential stud 1B, and two other prospects. For one more year of control?

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Generally, I feel the same way.

My only exception would be if the acquired player was that magic last missing piece to ensure it, it might be worth it, but with this year’s team, that’s hardly the case. He could be hitting like Bonds and I’m not sure it would be worth it.

Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!

by breadfan7 on Aug 9, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just had a snickers bar

Doing my part to end world hunger. I am no longer hungry.

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I donated money.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer to do things myself

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by jctGamer on Aug 9, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The tweet underneath your tweet about the snickers bar was a news story about a gas leak at the Sacramento Food Bank. I thought that was eerie.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

/snickers

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ross and Cabrera are changing spots in the order tonight

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

This will change everything!

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

F*ING WONDER TWIN POWERS ACTIVATE!!!!

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carson Cistulli challenges our assumptions

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I like Schulman again

He’s on the radio saying that the team is going to have to bring up Belt. Basically, they have no choice.

I mean, that obviously has no bearing on what the team will actually do, but still.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Media pressure is good…I like how they put some KNBR clips into the Franchise

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of that, how is episode 4 nowhere on the Internet?

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Showtime figured out how to search for “The Franchise episode 4” on Youtube.

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by Ott on Aug 9, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lame.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

They will have to when rosters expand.

"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"

by El Person on Aug 9, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

/Brad Eldred packs bags

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I took my dad to a Grizzlies/River Cats game, and he pointed at Brad Eldred and said, “how old is that guy? He looks like he’s about 50!”

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL – how cute that he thinks the team will do the logical thing.

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I spoke to soon. He’s talking about how Brett Pill is putting up ridiculous numbers in Fresno.

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by kdl on Aug 9, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay..I'm out

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by CalBear949 on Aug 9, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I STILL WON'T ADMIT TO BEING WRONG BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN MY NATURE, but here's more from Rownads
Rowand said that wasn’t the actual end of the interview but reporter Joe Cowley — a friend of the outfielder — chose to edit it to end there. Rowand had no issue with Cowley other to say the way the article was wrapped up in print made his statement sound worse than it was. He said the conversation carried on for another 15 minutes and he actually did just want to get to talking about Bears football, he said, not make any derogatory assertion about playing in San Francisco.

"Obviously, (the way it was edited to end) put things in a bad light," Rowand said. "But in no way did I ever insinuate about what I think of the city, the fans, the organizaion, my time here, any of that."

Setting the record straight, Rowand added, "I’ve enjoyed my time here. I’ve enjoyed my teammates, the fans have been great to me here and the organization. Do I wish things had turned out better over my time here — played better and done better? Of course. But I don’t have anybody else to point the finger at but myself. I’m not sitting here making any excuses about anything, but I’ve enjoyed my time here. I won another world championship with a great group of guys. The fans have supported me — when I’ve gotten booed here it’s because I’ve deserved to have gotten booed. There’s excuses being made and I’ve enjoyed my time here."

(From Carl Steward, filling in for the Baggy one)

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I’m confused. Does he enjoy his time here or not?

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by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he’s saying “I like it but I don’t because I suck and people are mean when I suck but I deserve it because I suck but the guys are nice and I get fan support except when I don’t and I never insinuated what I think of the city or the fans or anything.”

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he’s just not that bright.

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

But but but he looks so erudite as he stands there waggling his wang bat in a poop crouch at the plate!

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is the first sign that he isn’t too bright- he has developed a batting stance that actually offends the common fan.

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, shit. I’ve never seen a batting stance that could be so offensive. I didn’t even think that was possible. but the way he gyrates his hips while waggling the bat…. it’s fucking straight up wrong

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

/swings at the 9,328th slider in the dirt

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scott seems like a pretty nice guy.

I’m not gonna stop making fun of him. It’s too easy. I try to separate Aaron Rowand, perfectly decent human being, from Aaron Rowand, terrible baseball player.

Have you seen my son's velocity?

Pithy.

by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 9, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

that comment of Rownads is very obviously written by a PR person, even though I’ve missed this entire story developing today

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still wish he were elsewhere

But I don’t hate him anymore.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

there’s another day’s worth of RAGE gone to waste.

I’m glad he said something.

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tried to tell you people to settle down…but noooooooooooooooooooooo….

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

you and your stories

Beer kills brain cells, Rowand is a good guy…

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

dammit. I’m going to get suckered into spending my evening watching the game, I just know it.

this stupid, stupid team.

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions  

TRADE FOR COREY HART

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Urbs really had a beat on that one.

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by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO

CAIN 4 RICK ASTLEY

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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

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by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT:

I’ve decided to send sporks to school with the kids along with their thermoses full of pasta or what-have-you for lunch. I’m looking for sturdy reusable options (being kind to the environment and such).

WHERE’S THE BEST SPORK RETAILER?

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I buy my spork plugs from Kragen

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I betcha REI has some you could use. I mean they have freaking titanium sporks…

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

beat me to it

we got these a while back, pretty indestructible.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Whole Foods has bamboo sporks
You know how difficult it is to type that word and not put a “b” at the end.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

sporksb?

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by EliminateMe on Aug 9, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have one titanium spork in the house, mostly for the funny. I mean it’s a spork. Made of titanium.

I was thinking more about a plastic one – I’m worried about what titanium will do to the inside of the Hello Kitty themos.

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

see above

plastistuff, unbreakable

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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Aug 9, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah – that’s the stuff. I see some of those on Amazon, too.

Thanks!

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by can of corn on Aug 9, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are a Grade A crazy mom. congratulations

titanium sporks just for fun?

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Write to Consumer Reports and see if they’ll do their next issue on sporks.

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by rotorueter on Aug 9, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

How long before an eye-ectomy takes place?

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

if a girl likes you, she’ll spork you in the eye

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe the Enterprise uses titanium sporks in it’s hyper drive.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dilithium crystal sporkage?

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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 9, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

THAT'S IT!

I had trouble remembering.

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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 9, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, silly.

Sporks are used to power the Deathstar

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

KFC if you want toweletts packed with it.

Kickham where it hurts

by say hey nation on Aug 9, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

HUMOR ME, NERBS

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn't the 2008 offense only have Pablo for like 30 games?

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by slackersphere17 on Aug 9, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

41

He was brought up at the end of August.

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by Natto on Aug 9, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

just enough to not be ROY eligible.

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by Merope on Aug 9, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

how close we came to 4 straight ROYs.

Timmeh
Pablo
Posey
Belt- granted, this is a leap, but with consistent PT all year, he’d probably be mashing right now.

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, joy. looks like McCann will be activated literally on the day we roll into atlanta.

so that’s 4 guaranteed losses next week…

The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me

by giant4life83 on Aug 9, 2011 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

This Rowand thing is dumb

Are people really going to spend years calling him an overpaid piece of shit then complain when he implies that he liked it better somewhere else?

The first six innings are overrated.

by apistat on Aug 9, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

What a waste of a top prospect.

by dhp318 on Aug 9, 2011 8:01 PM PDT reply actions  

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