minor lines, 8/3/11
Wednesday highlights from the Giants' farm: Brad Eldred and Sharlon Schoop both homered while reaching base three times, and Chuck Lofgren allowed just 1 ER in 7.1 IP.
AAA: Fresno lost to Iowa 9-4(after allowing five runs in 6th inning)
Fresno: LF Brad Eldred: 3 for 5, HR, SO, CS
Fresno: CF Tyler Graham: 3 for 4, 2B, SB
Iowa: CF Brett Jackson: 2 for 3, 2 BB
Fresno: SP Shane Loux: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 4 K--1 HB
Fresno: RP Justin Dowdy: 0.2 IP, 2 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB, 1 K
Eldred had three hits, including his 20th HR. Graham also had three hits, plus his 52nd SB. Batting leadoff, Jackson, who is perhaps the Cubs' top prospect and who was promoted to the PCL about three weeks ago, reached base four times.
Loux had a fairly non-descript start. He threw just 87 pitches (49 strikes) but was finished after five innings. Dowdy retired just two of his seven batters. His ERA ballooned to 6.60, altough that is still lower than the ERAs of the two Grizzlies relievers who followed him.
AA: Richmond lost to New Hampshire 4-3
(allowing three runs in the top of the 9th inning)
Richmond: SS Sharlon Schoop: 2 for 3, HR, 2B, BB
Richmond: LF Skyler Stromsmoe: 1 for 2, BB, HBP, SO
New Hampshire: C Travis d'Arnaud: 2 for 4, BB, SO
Richmond: SP Chuck Lofgren: 7.1 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 4 K
Richmond: RP Heath Hembree: 1.1 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 1 K
With his 4th HR and 8th double, Schoop had the Flying Squirrels' only multi-hit line. He has 3 HRs in his last nine games. Stromsmoe also reached base three times. The Blue Jays' d'Arnaud reached base three times with the Fisher Cats' only multi-hit line.
Lofgren had his best start of the year, allowing just 1 R in 7.1 IP. Hembree stranded both runners inherited from Lofgren in the 8th inning. In the 9th inning, he was undone by three hits and two other batters reaching on errors.
A+: San Jose lost to High Desert 8-2
San Jose: DH Gary Brown: 0 for 4
San Jose: SS Ehire Adrianza: 2 for 4, 2 2B, SO
San Jose: CF Jarrett Parker: 2 for 3, BB, SO, SB
San Jose: SP Tommy Vessella: 4.0 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 3 K--1 HR, 1 HB, 1 E
Adrianza had his 10th and 11th doubles. He has hit .291 in 110 AB since his promotion to the Cal League, with better than one third of his hits going for extra bases. Parker also had two hits, as well as drawing the Giants' only walk. Brown had his second straight oh-fer.
Vessella made his fourth start among 28 appearances this year. Even though more than half of his batters reached base, he allowed just a couple runs.
A-: Augusta lost to Savannah 2-0
Augusta: RF Ryan Lollis: 2 for 3, 2B, BB
Augusta: SP Shawn Sanford: 7.0 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 9 K
Lollis had two of the GreenJackets' four hits, improving his AVG to .290.
The 22-year-old Sanford had another very effective start, including a season-high 9 K. Since the SAL's all-star break, he has a 1.42 ERA in eight starts.
ssA: Salem-Keizer lost to Boise 3-2
Salem-Keizer: RF Brett Krill: 2 for 4
Salem-Keizer: LF Chuckie Jones: 2 for 3, CS
Salem-Keizer: SP Lorenzo Mendoza: 6.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 6 K--1 HR
Krill and Jones each had two of the Volcanoes' nine hits, raising their respective AVGs to .377 and .219.
Mendoza had his third straight start with 2 ER in 6.0 IP. His ERA is now just below 5.00. The 4 BB was easily a season high as he had issued just 5 BB in his previous eight starts.
R: Scottsdale had its regular off-day (every fifth day)
DSL: Giants hosting Cubs2 suspended after 1st inning (tied 0-0)
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Bill Hall
started at 3B for Fresno tonite so he must have cleared waivers….
Yup
Henry Schulman This shocks me. Bill Hall accepted Triple-A assignment after clearing waivers.
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Not sure what's shocking about it
What team would you choose to play for: a AAA team for a playoff contender where none of the non-injured players on the depth chart ahead of you are legitimate starters, or for the Astros?
You see, it’s funny because Bill Hall can’t make the Astros
I read that part as sarcasm
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by Gobroks on Aug 3, 2011 11:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe, but even looking over it again, I can't see it
Sarcasm is supposed to be funny, right?
There’s not very much “clever” in the statement.
Maybe IDK
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by Gobroks on Aug 4, 2011 2:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Schulman expected him to retire instead
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Aug 4, 2011 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
i gotta admit i was a little surprised to see his name in the Fresno boxscore….
by repeat_in_2011 on Aug 3, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Most interesting (or substitute you’re own adjective) part of Hall’s assignment is that Conor Gillaspie now appears to be a bench player for Fresno.
Seriously, if you’re sitting behind Bill Hall and Manny Burriss: you might not be a prospect.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 4, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never understood the Gillaspie hype. I saw him play in, I think, 7 games this season with Fresno, and was surprised at how terrible he was at the plate. I went from excitement when he was up to bat to dread. To be fair, though I haven’t paid that much attention up to now.
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by kdl on Aug 4, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw him play as well in a four game series. All I can say is “whiff-n-clank” . The most common phrase I heard regarding Conor Gillaspie was " Damn It Conor".
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Yes, constant disappointment. When Brad Eldred strikes out, I’m like, “eh.” When Gillaspie strikes out in almost every at bat, I’m cringing.
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by kdl on Aug 4, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah he just has never seemed very good. He came out of college (1st round) with the reputation of “one of the most advanced bats in college” but also the negatives of No Power and No Glove. His first full year at SJ he impressed some McCoven with his plate discipline (which is indeed a scarcity in the system) but still no power and no glove. In the years since, even that skill has wavered.
At this point, i think I’d put him higher in the depth chart than Burriss simply because we have a really good idea of who Manny is at the major league level, but I have no faith that Gillaspie is ever going to amount to anything. He’s got one more option year coming up, but really I don’t think we need it to know he’s not likely in our future except in an emergency situation.
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I didn’t notice much clank, but he certainly wasn’t spectacular on D.
I think I would play him at 3B and Hall at 2B, but the organization has always seemed to have irrational love for Burriss, so we’ll see. What about AAA next year? Are we going to see Chris Dominguez? Or is there some other up and coming 3B I can’t remember right now?
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by kdl on Aug 4, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Gillaspie’s got a flaky arm and not much range. I’m not sure that it’s fair to say that his glove is actually overly clanky.
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I didn’t notice much clank, but he certainly wasn’t spectacular on D.
From what I saw, albeit a SSS, he cannot move to his right (throwing hand). Any ball hit to the glove side was fielded OK, but he has no crossover step and could not get to anything hit to his right side. During one play, he crossed over to pick the ball to his right and it hit him in the chest.
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I go to so many games, it’s really hard for me to remember in that much detail. I should start keeping score. It would make me pay attention better.
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by kdl on Aug 4, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
When I was a kid my brothers and I would frequently get into arguments over exact sequences of events in games we’d seen over the years, and the conclusion of those arguments was always someone digging into their pile of old programs/scorecards to find the exact game we were arguing over and reveal the facts.
That may be a bit overly geeky for most people’s taste, but still scorekeeping’s a great way to stay in the game and keep the impressions tight.
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I only get to see the Grizzlies for eight games a year
makes it easy to remember. I see the Reno Aces play 36 times a year, but could not tell you about more than my favorite guys on the roster.
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what i didn’t like was that stupid baloney in his contract where they had to call him up right after he signed(2008?)….to me you’re not serious if you’re more worried about including that in your contract than you are in getting down to work…
by repeat_in_2011 on Aug 4, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see any reason to get upset about that. That was just business. I infer from your comments that you think it was somehow an ego-based issue, but really it was just $$$. It was a way of effectively giving him a major league contract (which was what Gillaspie’s agent was looking for) without actually giving him a major league contract (which Bud would have had an apoplexy over for a Sandwich round pick). Just regular agent/FO negotiating stuff. Nothing to have a cow about.
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yeah, i noticed him as PH
and thought a few folks on McC will not be happy with Hall starting in his place…
by repeat_in_2011 on Aug 4, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
My impression was big league attitude without the skill to back it up. A bit of a douche.
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exactly, that’s what i got when i heard him being interviewed at the old Acme Chop House a few years ago on KNBR…it must have been Mychal Urban…seemed like he thought he’d already made it to the big leagues…
by repeat_in_2011 on Aug 4, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Totally
He may literally be the least friendly baseball player I have ever interacted with. It’s even more surprising, because the minor leaguers are usually so accommodating. Also, I hate his body language while he’s playing. He looks like he hates everything about it.
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That’s exactly what was said about JR Phillips. I seem to remember hearing about JR Phillips strutting around the clubhouse in 1993 acting like it was Bonds, Clark, and him who were the big bats. And Clark and Bonds were like “WHO ARE YOU?”
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Aug 4, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, one of my guys roomed with him in SJ and said he was a decent guy away from the field.
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That’s like that story about that teenaged kid who got sent down and threw a tantrum in the locker room and started screaming at all the veterans “I’m better than all of you SOBs and when I come back here you better start worrying about your jobs!” and stuff like that. Ty Cobb, I think it was.
Wait, what were we talking about?
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BRETT PILL
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 3, 2011 11:40 PM PDT reply actions
2x5 with a double...
curiously not mentioned by Steve S……i think he was probably hoping to avoid the usual hilarity on here….
by repeat_in_2011 on Aug 3, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
WHY ISN'T IT CALL BRETT PILL LINES HE SHOULD BE IN THE MAJORS
AND PLAY SECOND BASE LOOK AT HIS RBI TOTALS THE GIANTS COULD HAVE THAT
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 3, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone knows RBI is a worthless stat, he should be in the majors b/c of his .320 batting average.
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I know this is sarcasm
but he would probably be the tallest catcher in baseball. Could he even get down in the squat ? Would the umpire be able to see over his head ?
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I think Mauer is around 6’5" – Pill is what – 6’4"?
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Congratulations, Hector!
Lofgren in AA
I hadn’t realized Lofgren had been been converted back into being a starter with the move up to AA. I’m not sure if this is a good development for his career, or if there’s still a change for him to reach the Bigs, but it’s at least good to see this nice performance yesterday.
He had already been in the starting rotation for SJ before he was promoted. According to last reports, he’s still rarely reaching the high 80s with his FB. At this point he’s an extreme junk ball pitcher and unlikely to every make the majors unless his velocity returns.
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Random fun fact:
Shane Loux also had two singles, an RBI and scored a run.
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Promotions / demotions
Ben Thomas got the call up to S-K from the AZL – Brice Cutspec was put on the DL.
Jackson Williams was sent back down to Richmond – not sure why they need 3 catchers all of a sudden.
Nick Noonan was sent to SJ from Fresno – does he need any more prompting to realize he’s almost an afterthought now?
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Looks like Nick Noonan is just fodder at this point. Osiris Matos was also sent to San Jose from Richmond. They had two open roster spaces, and need some pitching.
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by kdl on Aug 4, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Tyler Graham
I’m making him my Brett Pill. Promote, we need more center fielders.
He’s got the vroom and can actually field his position. No power to speak of but he told me he’s supposed to concentrate on hitting line drives and setting the table so he’s doing what’s been asked.
Anybody want to join me on the Graham bandwagon?
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I thought the new controversial guy was Justin Christian? ;-)
I always wondered why Tyler never got a shot.
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by kdl on Aug 4, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Really, the career minor league OPS of .710 doesn’t just scream out for one. Especially that .360 SLG percetnage. Plus he’s been hurt a bunch in his career.
Now he’s a speed player who’s starting to get to the age where speed can be expected to decline. (he’ll be 28 next year when he comes to ST). Another year and I think he’s a 6 year minor league FA. Not sure how much longer Tyler will be able to keep playing, sadly enough.
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Thanks. I agree that he probably won’t hang on much longer. I have to say, though, I am surprised how long some guys hang on. (Was it you who wrote the long comment in the Pill Fan Post about the odds stacked against guys in the minors? I loved that.) I guess getting paid to play baseball (however little) is enough for some guys.
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by kdl on Aug 4, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Hembree and The Squirrels had the game won 3-2, but Wes Hodges couldn’t catch with a difficult throw from Schoop in the top of the 9th that would have been the 3rd out.
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He’s got the vroom and can actually field his position.
He does have the vroom. IDK where to find this information, but to “my eyes”, he looks to be in the Darren Ford category. He also has a pretty good arm, and does field very well.
I’m in. It’s always fun to cheer for someone that has no chance of making the big clubs roster. Besides, the Gary Brown bandwagon has people falling off the sides and they just got cited for V C Section 21700 Obstruction to Driving.
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I’m still on the Gary Brown bandwagon. He is so fun to watch in CF. If he gets moved to AAA next year, though, it won’t be a good thing for Tyler.
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by kdl on Aug 4, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
True
but, since they really don’t have a RF in Fresno, I’m pretty sure that Tyler would still be employed.
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Justin Christian! ;-)
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by kdl on Aug 4, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess that’s true. With nothing but first baseman on the roster, they need to leave LF open for at least one of those guys.
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I’ve heard from some of the other players he’s one of if not the fastest in the organization.
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Of course, that was pre Galindo sightings. I’m really liking this guy too. Not the defender that Payne is but lots of vroom and can hit a bit.
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