Post-game thread: The 2011 Giants might not be remembered as a team with an above-average offense
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 28, 2011 4:57 PM PDT
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PrintThere have been a lot of this-just-might-not-be-our-year-fellas losses already. Not losses that make you give up, necessarily. Losses that make you think, yeah, I'm pretty sure this isn't a good enough team to make the playoffs. The Giants lost to the Astros because they can't score more than three runs in a single game. They won two games in the series, and that's more than they deserved. This might be the most this-just-might-not-be-our-year-fellas series of the season.
My evidence: the Giants were beaten in two of these games by Henry Sosa and Matt Downs.
Well, and an umpire at second base, most likely. That's pretty not-our-year right there. A wretched, inane offense will always shoulder most of the blame, sure, but only until the shoulder gets sore and falls off. Oh, and they were beaten by the Astros, a team with four wins on the season, all against the Giants. That's very not-our-year. And Jose Altuve. Always Jose Altuve. Maybe if Mike Murphy grabs him before he can get on the Astros' team bus, Altuve could tell us where to find enough gold to sign Prince Fielder. This offense could be saved after all.
But if you're looking for messages in the tea leaves, Henry Sosa and Matt Downs combine for a pretty unmistakable message from the cosmos. Not time to give up. But let's just allow those names to rattle around in our brains in a while.
Usually the team locked in a race with the Giants really ticks me off. The Padres last year. The Rockies every year they contend. Just a mention of the team's name ticks me off. Maybe there's a reason for the disdain. The 2010 Padres ticked me off because I didn't think they were especially good. Whenever the Giants are chasing the Rockies, it ticks me off because they're a bunch of cheaters. They stuff hollowed-out bats with exactingly moist tobacco. Look it up. Reverse-surprise conspiracies are more likely to be true than regular conspiracies. Look that up too. But the Rockies are usually hyper-annoying just because they're the Rockies.
The Diamondbacks don't tick me off, though. They really don't. They certainly did in 1999 and 2001, but they're a total afterthought to me this year. The Giants tick me off. I watch this team with a mix of disgust and admiration. It's like knowing that a good friend is cheating on his wife with Scarlett Johansson. C'mon, man, don't cheat on your wife, but hey that's kind of cool, wait, no it isn't, you repulse me, though, if you have to be a cad, at least your taste is, wait, what in the hell am I talking about, you're awful. That's the hitting/pitching dichotomy of the 2011 Giants. The beauty of the pitching is completely overshadowed by the indefensible, greater shame.
It's almost like the 2009 Giants, except now we have the knowledge that a decent offense really can lead to beautiful things. We have the taste. It's delicious, that winning. That's what makes this worse than 2009. Just when I thought they were out, they pull us back ... oh, wait, they really were out. It went 4-3. But I went into this season thinking that Huff, Ross, and Torres were good, and that Posey was around for a full season. Whoops. Turns out none of that was true, and it feels a little dirty picking on Huff today because without him, the Giants might not have scored at all.
This is a flawed team with a bunch of injuries, and they're hitting even below their meager potential. Yep.
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by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
not to be overly gloomy
but losing 4 out of 7 to the worst team in baseball does not convince me that they are ready for the playoffs.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
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by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't escape these two things...
1) The Giants can’t win unless they start hitting.
2) The Giants can’t hit.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
by tobias on Aug 29, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think I am going to go to the gym
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
My gym was closed by Hurricane Irene
Hasn’t rained a drop all day!
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Irritating series for both teams
Giants get beat by Sosa and Downs, Astros get beat twice by Keppinger.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
by rxmeister on Aug 28, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Tired of the excuses being used. This offense makes every starting pitcher against them look like All-Stars.
Stop that nonsense and tip your cap!!!
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
I missed the controversial play
But if you just scored 8 runs in 39 innings against THE HOUSTON ASTROS, you don’t, in my estimation, get to blame a loss on the umpires.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
you're right
But it hurts when you see the play nontheless
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The play was called on TV by K&K as a really badly called play
which I don’t think it was. I don’t have access to a DVR to see it in slow-mo, frame-by-frame but either way it is very close and it looks to me like it was called properly. Either way it was a coin toss call and not a clearly blown call as was being stated by our broadcasters.
by nofreetime on Aug 28, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really don't understand how you can say this
I’ve watched it several times now and I still can’t tell for sure either way, but if you put a gun to my head I’d have to say out.
I don't think I'm the only one who saw him as safe
Initially, I thought he was out. After watching the replay (and the decent angle the umpire had on the call), I thought it was an awful call.
I agree, nofree. Very close.
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by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I just saw the replays, too.
It certainly wasn’t anywhere near a “blown call”. The replay from CF shows that DeRosa’s arm lands on the glove as it is dropping down onto the base. Closer than a bang-bang play, and it goes either way.
This isn’t on the umps, anyways. It’s on the hitters for needing to rely on a favorable call on a close play to possibly eek out a win against the worst team in the league.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
anyone who thinks DeRo’s arm didn’t land on the glove needs to watch it a few more times. It’s very clear.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Just showed it again on the post-game
and slowed it down a little bit more. I still can’t say for certain but I stick with him being out with his arm coming down on the glove before the hand hits the base.
Like I said though not a blown call, but rather a coin-toss.
Clearly you can admit he is not clearly safe or out
If not, you are being disingenuous.
So he was out by a mile as K&K said?
If you think he was clearly safe and it wasn’t very close, then you are not being honest or you are blind.
K and K only said he was clearly safe after they looked at the replay
I agree with them. However, for an ump, it isn’t so clear cut. Umps don’t have replays (though they should).
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but he wasn't clearly safe or out
it was a very difficult call and even difficult to tell after watching it slowed down. I’d like to see the frame of video when the play is actually made.
I wish I had a DVR.
I don't see how you think it was clear
It looked pretty clear to me. But whatever. This is one of those conversations that is bound to go in circles.
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WTF
Whiteside is related to the actor who played Peter Brady in the Brady Bunch.
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Good. He should start an acting career and stop playing baseball.
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by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Fixed
He should startan acting careerbeing a backup again and stopplaying baseballstarting
Backup C was my biggest concern going into the season, but I can’t blame Whiteside for Posey going down
The thong is, it happened.
No, but it’s probably the biggest error the FO made all year. I realize we didn’t have a lot of time to make a move—it was early May when Posey went down, and we weren’t going to give up our top prospect—oh wait.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
For a FO that loves its small sample sizes, I’m a little bit surprised that they didn’t make snap judgments and decide that neither Stewart nor Whiteside was going to be acceptable. Of course, I completely expected them to pick up Pudge for Wheeler, but I’m still surprised that it didn’t happen.
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I'll go into my usual "We really don't know"
We don’t know what Sabean did or didn’t try to do and we don’t know what potential dance partners were willing to do, if anything. It could very well be there no options or just bad ones.
The thong is, it happened.
Between this and Barry Zito’s Patrick Duffy connection, the Giants are rolling in A LIST CELEBRITIES BABY!!!!!
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
4 realz yo?
Can I tell my friends at work tomorrow that I root for a baseball team with connections like that?
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 28, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
By coincidence, Jose Altuve is Peter Dinklage’s little brother.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
ICW....you know the rest.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
at least
andres torres made another sorry argument for playing time
In this post-2010 reality, I occupy a resurrection body.
all his fault
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
and it’s still a better argument than the alternatives. and it’s only one game.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 28, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry. I don't know the source. But it's very Buffy.
What do you mean you want a helicopter ride?
That's Leslie Knope from Parks & Rec summing it all up
And here’s Buffy summing it all up
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
They have six games left on this homestand.
If they don’t win 5 they can forget it. And I fail to see how they can win 5. 4 back with 28 to play. They go 20-8 and the Dbacks have to go 16-12 just to tie.
So – if this is going to end, I hope it ends this week. At least thenmaybe we can see some of theyoung guys playing. This team feels so damn old.
by lexluth7 on Aug 28, 2011 5:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
kinda tough
to see the road to 90 wins here ATM.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Another way to look at
Match the D’backs record and beat ’em 5-1 head-to-head
The thong is, it happened.
I don’t think either one of those things will happen.
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by jhiat00 on Aug 29, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not betting it on it either, but it's not like it would be the craziest thing ever
The thong is, it happened.
bleh
and i thought today’s lineup was our best combination possible coming into the game.
That's why they scored 3 instead of 2
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
X-Men 3
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
X-Men
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
When did Professor X die?
Did I miss something?
It was X-Men: The Last Stand. it got mediocre reviews
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by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Which was way more than it deserved
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 28, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this offense fixable by next year?
I mean posey and sanchez coming back is great but right now it seems like the team needs so much more than that
by haroldandsivakumar on Aug 28, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions
They need to keep Beltran
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I don’t want being stuck with another aging, overpaid player for several years.
You cannot compare Carlos Beltran to the stiff veterans they have brought in here. This guy is a legit star.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Watching him play the field
yeesh.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
a legit star who will turn 35 next April. I’m very much in favor of keeping him, but not for more than 3 years at reasonable money, which won’t happen.
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"Orlando before Zod" doesn't have the same nice ring to it.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 28, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
win
either way I have a bad feeling about an expensive OF signing.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Expensive FA signings don’t work out well for us
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by hautecouture on Aug 28, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
it would have to be a deal like Huff got, 2-3 years at most. Anything else is just trouble but stars like Beltran at that age always go for the huge, multi-year deals, not the short-term deals
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
They want to be guaranteed money until they likely retire. Plus his agent is Boras which makes a favorable deal even more impossible
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by hautecouture on Aug 28, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
How much can Beltran expect to get at his age and injury history? What team needs a hitter like Beltran more than the Giants? That’s why they got him in the first place. If they get outbid for him in the offseason they’ll be making a big mistake. Just getting back the injured players won’t be enough to fix this offense.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
Well... if you let Cody Ross walk
And Pat. That’s 7 mil already you can use to spend per year on Beltran. I could be convinced to go a bit above that for a couple years or nearly twice that for 1.
I think the Giants should spend every dime they have on Reyes this offseason.
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not really
unless they plan on significantly increasing payroll, cain is a FA and lincecum is in 2 yrs save that money and lock them up
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They should plan on significantly increasing payroll
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they have significantly increased their payroll.
There's a First for Everything:
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Yeah
There should be enough flexibility to accommodate Reyes over the course of the next few years with a few contracts coming off the books.
Reyes is young, plays a premium defensive position with aplomb, and has MVP-level talent. If you’re going to give a big contract to anyone, you should give it to him. The injuries are a concern, but no potential FA is perfect.
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I don't really want to do that
but if they’re going to make a panic signing I’d sure rather they throw the money at a good SS than at Lyle Overbay or whoever else falls off the turnip truck in November.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
but he is injury prone
also what happens to Crawford?
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Crawford stays in the minors, where he belongs.
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Because he is not good at baseball
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I think he could learn to play 2B as well and pretend to be Burriss over the next couple years (at least while the options hold out). It would be ever so helpful to have a utility IF that can actually play SS rather than 2Bs that pretend to.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
then why not sign reyes to the long term deal
keep Craw in the minors for a year, and then when freddy leaves after his contract slide reyes over to 2B and insert crawford back at short
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That’s not crazy, I don’t see anyone arguing that Crawford should be DFA’d. It’s just a question of whether he should be anointed as the next SS with no real alternatives.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s basically what I see Crawford as: the next, cheaper Mike Fontenot. Less bat, more glove.
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Crawford could still post an OBP near .320 with some power and plus plus defense.
I’d take that as a starting SS, provided the shorthanded SS offense comes from somewhere else
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
What do you mean by some power? Only once at any stop with >100 PA has he posted an ISO >.150 in the minors. And that was at San Jose in 2009, with a .500 BABIP. If he slugs anywhere near .360 in the majors, I’d be surprised.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I should have been more clear.
my statement of “some power” was relative to the team. When you’ve got completely punchless guys like Tejada, Cabrera and Kepp running the middle IF….
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
And your evidence for that statement is what, exactly?
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what’s the point of having a Reyes if he isn’t going to be used to his maximum potential? sign him to play SS
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Crawford completely loses any value
if not playing shortstop.
His defensive ability at SS is his only prayer at ever getting any regular playing time at the major league level.
Many might argue but I don’t see second as a position where you want to give up too much offense for defense.
for six years?
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I don't think he's a major league calibur player
So sure, why not?
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I think that you try a shorter contract for reyes
Because at 6 years reyes will get hurt several times
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He could be a serviceable backup in a few years’ time.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
That's fine. There's space for glove-only middle infield bench players.
But I don’t let Crawford affect my long term decision making.
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If he ever does turn out to be a productive hitter and he gets blocked by Reyes, that’ll be a problem I’d be happy for the Giants to have.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Maybe if he pulls a Cody Ransom in 8 years. I really don’t see crawford turning into a big bat soon. He was intimidated by everyone.
He’s destroyed the California League in 44 games spread out over three seasons and he was average last year when he repeated AA. Forgive me if I’m not convinced.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
average is just what this team needs.
too much sub-average everywhere else.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He was average in AA.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
with a normal BABIP, he would have been average in MLB, right? for a SS of course, factoring in his glove
IIRC his BABIP was like .220
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
with a good offense in 2012, he could hit 8th and it would be fine.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
there is space for glove-only backups
if and only if there are bat-wielding starters.
I actually like Crawford and think he’s better than most of the backups that have wandered through in the past few years, and wouldn’t mind a lineup with him at 8th if there were ML hitters 1-7. hahahahahaha
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions
There’s got to be other good SS out there that aren’t so injury prone
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by hautecouture on Aug 28, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, there weren’t any last year.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
this
also give crawford a shot to put it together a whole year in AAA before passing judgement
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Oh?
They really don’t exist. Not at Reyes’ talent level.
There are a few shortstops who are as good or better than Reyes.
Tulowitzki. Hanley. And, uh, that’s kinda it.
We can’t get those two. But we can get Reyes. This team and this city deserve a player that good.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m starting to get the impression that teams re-sign/lock up the good ones, and only the broken/cruddy ones become FA.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont like that reyes has a history of leg injuries
since that is his game it wouldn’t be worth 6yrs/120 or so million
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I feel like the Marlins might be willing to sell low on Hanley.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
rather do that then reyes
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Sure, I would too
But I doubt it’s possible.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Supposedly the Marlins owner loves Hanley and won’t trade him. They’ll have a new manager next year, and I’m sure they’ll hire someone that can work with him. Reyes would be a mistake in my opinion. The year he was having before the injuries was a career year by a lot. His OBP was never good for a leadoff man. He’ll be way too expensive for what he will bring to the table. The Giants should fortify the rest of the offense which would allow them to carry a defensive SS like Crawford.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
yeah, Hanley is Loria’s golden boy. Good luck with that.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
They sold out every game, they’ve got to have a stockpile of money don’t they. Plus after Rownads eventually comes off the books, they’ll have significantly more $ to spend
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by hautecouture on Aug 28, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
They will but will they spend it
I’m just saying that when the time comes priority 1 is locking up Tim and Matt. If you have the money after that then go after reyes
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I agree Tim and Matt are the 1st priority. Without pitching this team is absolutely nothing!
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by hautecouture on Aug 28, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Without a good enough offense, this team is nothing anyway.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
and
this year proves it even better than 2009.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
"Nothing?"
71-63 without Posey and Sanchez ranks somewhere above “nothing” in my book.
The thong is, it happened.
/returns book entilted “Worst Offense Since 1902” to library
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
The original argument you were agreeing with
…referred to the “team” being nothing.
I agree that this year’s offense has been nothing, but would argue that the overall team, with all its injuries, has been something more than “nothing”.
The thong is, it happened.
I'd rather see lincecum and cain as giants for a long time
then us sign reyes and other hitters lose tim matt or both and watch them own us for 5+ years
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yeah, but If you get buster back at near the level he was at and sanchez
plus pablo and belt I think you can afford to have Crawfords Defense in the lineup for his defense, reyes is a liability health wise IMO, I am no way saying that he will be ready next year, but I don’t want to blow 6/140 on reyes which is what it will probably take to get him.
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you can have crawfords bat in the lineup for his superior defense
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I guess its agree to disagree
I still have hopes for carwford to be a decent shortstop in the bigs
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I agree. He’s already a 4 tool talent, just missing the big part- hitting for average.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
And the whole power thing.
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yeah, that too :(
I’ll take the tools he has as a SS anyday, though. Sure, there’s better available on the market
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
It's funny that all you guys are focused on Crawford
He isn’t even the best SS prospect in the organization.
It’s probably because he’s the only one we’ve seen at the ML level everyday while our other SS options are old and slow. And also because he has two things this team does not- good defense and a good approach at the plate.
Adrianza or Panik probably have better chances of being the future SS, even though they are far away.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Who else is there?
Adrianza hits even less than Crawford and Panik probably won’t stick at shortstop.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I hope you’re not talking about Adrianza because he isn’t any better. He’s hitting well in A+ and he’s young but this is like his 3rd time through now.
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I wasn’t aware Adrianza was making his third round of A+ ball. In that case, er, yeah. He’s not gonna pan out.
I didn’t really start following the minors until middle of last year.
@El Person- what makes you think Panik doesn’t stick at SS?
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
This is Ehire's 2nd, not 3rd time in SJ
In any case, though, “young for the level” is a crucially important factor that y’all seem to be dismissing.
That’s been Panik’s story ever since he was drafted. He doesn’t have the arm to really cut it as a major-league shortstop; there was talk that they might put him at second base this year.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I am
Adrianza has an .865 OPS in San Jose at age 21. Crawford hit better than that in San Jose… but at age 24.
I was previously a Crawford backer, as in spite of positive scouting Adrianza had never hit at any level. That has now changed. I still am simply hoping that one of them (or Panik) turns out to be an average major-league SS. But right now I think the most likely to achieve that is Ehire.
interesting.
I’ve always tried not to get too attached to the minor leaguers because inevitably, most of them don’t make it. and that’s kinda tough.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
But doesn’t Stamos have a flukey minor league record due to injury? What if he can develop with some real AAA time?
I’m no expert, but I’d imagine with the plate approach and patience he’s displayed, the odds of him putting it together are pretty good. He won’t hit .330, but he could hit .250-.260, I think.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
This team HAS pitching and stinks like two weeks of festering garbage.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Also Reyes...broken
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We've gotten into this numerous times
Free agents at premium positions with no injury history do. not. exist.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But the Giants do not have pay said free agent a boatload of money…I mean they have in the past but they do not have to continue.
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They have to if they want a good player.
If they don’t want one, sure, they can play the replacement level options within the org.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Wrong field
Is there anyone here who doesn’t believe Nate would have nailed Lee at second on the “double”, or perhaps even have caught the ball before it dropped? I wouldn’t mind Beltran at a reasonable price in left but it’s not going to happen.
by NearestNorwich on Aug 28, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm happy to continue developing Nate's talent over losing Beltran.
Between the two, he’s clearly inferior on a one-at-bat basis, but we’d likely benefit more in the longterm.
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Continuing to develop Nate's talent?
Nate is 27 years old. He’s not a developing kid who will improve. He’s a fourth outfielder who will help off the bench. If you like him so much and think he’s better than that, you can wait for 2013 when Huff is gone and Belt moves to first. He can play the OF with Beltran and Brown.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
I would have no problem with that.
Once we actually gave him consecutive starts, he started, you know, hitting.
Got into a slump and injured shortly afterward, so I guess we could argue SSS all day, but he’s gotta be faster in the outfield than Beltran, and less breakable as a younger player. There are surely better options within or without the Giants system, but dollar for dollar, I would take Nate over Beltran.
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I’d take Beltran over Nate if the alternative is them deciding not to sign anyone at all.
but if Beltran being re-signed were hypothetically blocking a Reyes signing, then I’d be against it. In all honesty, I’d like to sign a real leadoff hitter in the offseason- be it Reyes or a 1-2 year deal until Brown is ready.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate would be great
as a 7 hitter in a hypothetical lineup with Crawford at SS and good hitters everywhere else. hahahahahaha
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by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Posey is definitely a huge upgrade over two replacement level catchers
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I'm astounded that Stewart/Whiteside combined is 0.9 fWAR. That's...
wow. They’re collectively terrible.
JT Jordan's post here on 5/27 is eerily prophetic. According to that post, we'd be about one game back right now.
And LOL Rockies.
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(finger rosary, genuflects)
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Posey is probably a 4 win upgrade over the Whiteside/Stewart suckfest. Sanchez is probably a 2 win upgrade over the Keppinger/Cabrera/why is Burriss sinkhole at 2nd. That’s a big difference.
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I don’t think Sanchez can stay healthy for a full season at this point. Maybe a 1.0-1.5 win upgrade.
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I think you’re really underestimating how bad Burriss is.
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Is he that much better than Keppinger, though? He’s worth keeping around. I mean, he doesn’t have that much worth, but he’s not near-worthless like Burriss.
He may not be that much better than Keppinger. Somewhat depends on how you rate his D. Although, it’s probably worth noting that even having Keppinger for an entire year removes the problem of Manny B.
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Sometimes
I wonder who would win in a footrace between Keppinger and Bengie Molina.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 28, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It seems to me that Kepp's issue is more about agility than actual speed.
I trust him to turn a double into a triple running the bases more than I do Molina.
But get something just at the rim of their reach, and I expect them both to miss.
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Sanchez is not a major upgrade over Keppinger
He might be ten runs better with the glove, but the bat is basically the same.
Ten runs is a major upgrade
My adopted son, Brandon Crawford. Dude hits grand slams and plays defense.
That's one win.
It’s an upgrade, but one win very rarely makes a difference.
ask the '93 Giants
about the importance of one win
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So sweet
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Hard to believe that purple line is likely playoff bound this year.
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Their bullpen was really, really bad last year.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Really bad
doesn’t even quite cover it. I think I might have causually glanced at about five games in the second half last year… and I’ve been a die-hard fan since 2001
No more rec
by imstillhungry95 on Aug 28, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
1991 Dodgers would also like to make your acquaintance.
And the right extra win by the 2004 Giants would have significantly muted the impact of one Steven Allen Finley.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, barring any important free agent signings, the lineup next year should look something like this:
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Posey C
Belt LF
Schierholtz RF
Huff 1B
Fontenot SS
Pitcher
Is it good? Eh. Could it potentially be league-average? Probably.
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by nothingbutnet003 on Aug 28, 2011 5:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
could be
but I have very little confidence in Torres at this point. We’ll see if he can turn it on the rest of the way, but 2010 is looking like a huge fluke and if he doesn’t improve the rest of the way this year, the Giants seriously need to look at upgrading the position.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 28, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
the Giants don't either
panic signings incoming.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I really doubt it
I don’t think a guy who walks 3% of the time in AA at age 23 is ever likely to be a good major league player.
You can't just say 2010 was a fluke
Because he had a good 2009, and very good 2008 and 2007 in the minors.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I think it’s safe to say 2010 won’t be repeated though, but I don’t think fluke is the right word.
That is cray-z.
he was Beltran-Lite in 2010. I think he still has it in him, but finding it again will be tough. He didn’t have any pressure when Andres became ANDRES. IMO he was pressure-cooked.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
also, Fontenot isn’t a starting SS and won’t be next year. It’d be Crawford before Fontenot.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 28, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Keppinger is under control for next season. I had posted this before:
Brown CF (midseason call up)
Keppinger 3B
Sandoval 3B
Posey C
Belt LF
Nate RF
Sanchez 2B
Crawford SS
Fontenot is not under team control. A lot question regarding this lineup.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 28, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
one less question
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 28, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
BR says he played it 67 times in 2009 for the Astros. Sanchez primarily played it in 2006 when he won a batting championship. I’d prefer Sanchez at 2B because he has better range. If Pablo stays at 3rd, someone has to sit.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 28, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
But...Cabrera!?
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by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm at the point
where I’m thinking “Good job guys, you scored 3 runs, and almost a 4th today. Well fought.”
So yea, I’m not too convinced that this group of Giants is going to the Playoffs. I mean if they do, I’ll be ecstatic. Just not expecting it.
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My inexplicable Rowand HR streak in games I attend ends at 6 games. I fully expected him to hit a bomb to win it.
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by NuschlerFace on Aug 28, 2011 5:06 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
Oh and then there's this
Norris had posted a 5.33 ERA and 1.74 WHIP over his last five starts.
Before the Giants of course.
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You’ve got to be fucking kidding me?
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by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 28, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
walks
they registered two Base on Balls in that game – both by Sandoval.
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In 2009, Sandoval lead the team in walks.
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Maybe so, but I don't want 2010 Pablo showing up next year.
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Please
“led”
I cannot seem to read through this particular error.
For some reason I always fuck that one up when I’m writing too quickly to think it through. I humbly apologize.
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By "lead", you were referring to their lack of team speed
Yeah, that’s it!
The thong is, it happened.
It’s probably because it’s gotten into the actual print world lately.
I certainly remember the first time I saw it in a newspaper….
(Also, newspaper independent, another reason to believe that Yahoo! does not employ copy-editors.)
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
fun with Aaron Rowand splits
Not including today:
Last 7 days: .000 / .000 / .000
Last 14 days: .063 / .063 / .063
Last 28 days: .163 / .163 / .184
Since the All-Star Break: .210 / .210 / .358
2 Outs, RISP: .172 / .294 / .207 (weirdly “high” OBP is due to 3 HBP and 1 IBB)
Late & Close: .247 / .267 / .301
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by jcb9 on Aug 28, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
after a loss like this
the only thing that could cheer me up is an outright release of the Gamer
In this post-2010 reality, I occupy a resurrection body.
further empirical evidence
that Rowand is an expensive turd
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Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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Wait
So, Blowand hasn’t gotten on base via any other method than the base hit since the ASB?
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 28, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather keep Clayton Tanner in AA.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 28, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
it's almost llike
the more he plays, the larger the sample size gets and the more the suck shines through.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not "almost like"
It is.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
just as expected
beltran comes in plays with no heart/plays terribly, then misses 13 games due to some fluke/pussy injury, and then when the giants playoff hopes are slim he starts to play better in order to get more money in free agency…smh
also zach wheelers line for the Mets 2-2 2.16 era 1.120 WHIP 1.8 BB/9 9.4 SO/9 5.20 SO/BB 0 HRs in 25 innings
by sf_cutty on Aug 28, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
More money than what, though?
Than he would have gotten if he hadn’t turned it around, or than he would have gotten before he became a Giant?
Seems to me if a player could choose when to play well for contractual purposes, he’d have chosen to play well all the way from 7/31 to 10/1 so as to say “World Series ring, bitches, pay up.”
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
/slaps knee
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hahaha
plays with no heart
I didn’t even …. we really should get him one of those. That’s quite a handicap.
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Zack
And why wouldn’t he start playing good from the start, for free agency? I mean, that’s just the tip of the berg. But yeah.
Take the red pill, and I show you how deep the Beltran hole goes.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But is it the divide-by-zero type?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He bought derivative contracts linked inversely to his batting average.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Quick! Call the SEC and check all purchases of Beltran put options. Times, dates, and compare with his on field performance!
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
This is either great sarchasm or frighteningly stupid. Still debating.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
why does beltran seem to not play with passion
i know hes amazingly talented but he doesn’t care. even when we won the walkoff yesterday he wasnt that excited. blah blah blah
i saw him sheepishly parading around Keppinger last night
looked somewhat happy
by DudeDontTazeMe on Aug 28, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
outside of Panda, Derosa and Keppinger
who is?
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
i feel you
thats why i love the younger players, they play with heart even if its a ball grounded to short they are sprinting towards 1B
Yeah, guys like Belt always hustle!
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
You'll give the same criticism to Buster when he's back right?
I don’t see him being overly emotional from game to game, just a level-headed professional, which is how I’d define Beltran as well.
i guess that's true
but with Buster, i get the sense that his personality/demeanor fits more with this bunch than Carlos’ personality/demeanor
Most of these guys are the same guys as last year
They couldn’t hit before Beltran arrived, they can’t hit now.
Beltran’s not the problem, and if anything he’s starting to show what he can do with the bat. I’d blame the defensive miscues (such as Cabrera’s today and Huff’s yesterday) than some ephemeral “attitude” issue with Beltran.
I feel ya
I prefer to whine about Cabrera’s presence on the roster and Rowand’s presence in the batter’s box EVER.
I just wish Torres, Panda and Beltran could get somewhat hot at the same time. That group could carry this offense – or carry it enough to allow the pitching to do its thing.
definitely
but unless some miracle move happens, we’re gonna inevitably have holes in our lineup at SS and C because everyone who plays those positions on our roster suck. it sucks that we wont be able to get our top 8 batters in the lineup at any time
Which is why targeting Beltran was silly.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Getting Carlos Beltran was a great move and one they had to do to make the playoffs. The fact that it hasn’t worked out so far is just the way it goes sometimes. It was still the right move. Maybe it’s payback for winning it all last year, when all the moves Sabean made paid off, even the dumb ones.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
I really wish that they’d been able to finagle a real SS or C from somewhere. The OF was really the one place where we were sort of holding it together.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
this is my beef too.
the upgrade from, say, Nate/Ross to Beltran was nowhere near as large as the upgrade from Whiteside/Stewart to Napoli or Tejada/Cabrera to Reyes would have been. Bigger black holes to fill…
not sure if Napoli could have been had for Wheeler, but still… he didn’t upgrade in the right places.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed that it was a good acquisition. And that other changes didn’t work well.
Sigh. Wait until next month.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Napoli has been given away for practically nothing this year. I don’t know why but I’m sure we could have gotten him for a B prospect.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Squirrel: Heath Hembree
the Jays originally traded him, right? I’m sure Texas has realized his value by now.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Texas never would’ve traded him. I was just reading how they had to DH him yesterday because he had caught too many games in a row and was exhausted. He’s an important player on that team, and a contender doesn’t unload players like that at the deadline.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
/slaps knee
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Good newz
We finished 3-4 vs. the Astros for the year.
The B-J’s and the Nats also had losing records at 1-2. We are not alone in patheticness.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 28, 2011 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
One of the suckiest things about that game was that
the most pivotal failure in the game came about seemingly because of Belt’s patience at the plate (first and last strike were looking during his K with two on in the eleventh).
The Giants braintrust purportedly think that Belt’s patience at the plate is a problem. I, and I think many here, think it’s one of the teams few current offensive pluses.
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
When Belt finds the balance between patience/aggressiveness
Wow
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
It's a brite spot until he gets to two strikes
He needs to adjust his approach. Easier said than done. Nate finally started showing an ability to adjust with two strikes this year
The thong is, it happened.
There's nothing left to say
The offense sucks. It sucks and it is apparently in a funk (no offense can be as bad as this one has the last few weeks, not even the Giants).
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
rosterbation
2B Keppinger
LF Belt
1B Berkman
3B Sandoval
RF Beltran
SS Cabrera
CFTorres
C Whiteside
make it so
In this post-2010 reality, I occupy a resurrection body.
Berkman?
You’ve rosterbated yourself blind.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
LOL Whiteside
Golden sombrero. Makes this lineup DOA.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 28, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
They scored first while playing the first place team. We constantly played catchup before losing to the worst team in MLB.
Who laid down and died?
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Hah, that must have been brutal
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I was ten years old. "Brutal" doesn't really begin to cover it.
I’ve held a grudge against the Astros ever since. I rooted for the White Sox in the World Series against them not because I gave a shit about the White Sox not having won a World Series since the Great War, but because fuck the Astros.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
What? You expected them to all of a sudden decide to stop sucking?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
What the heck happened to Jonathan Sanchez?
"He’s still not making the progress we’d hoped. He hasn’t thrown at all. He’s a ways away," Bochy said. "The way it’s going, it could be a close call between he and Buster (Posey)."
It sounds as if Bochy means in the context of how much time is left in the season – if he’s not back in the next four weeks, he won’t be back before spring, at which point it’s who gets there first.
Or is he really that broken?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:19 PM PDT reply actions
I was kinda pissed at the start of the week that I was gonna miss all the games this week.
It may have been a blessing in disguise.
So did Torres, based on TV interview tonight. Exact same waxing.
Early in or just before the last month of last season a girlfriend ran into Pablo and Andres at the Stonestown mall cafeteria or whatever (I’ve lived in SF all my life but know nothing of the Stonestown mall). They were reticent, understandably, since having strangers approach you is at the very least quite trying and intrusive and professionally things weren’t going that well at that time. Pablo agreed to a picture with them. Andres, meanwhile, fled up an escalator as soon as the family made obvious signs of recognition and approached. According to my friend he had a “terrified” look on his face and just took off.
What do you mean you want a helicopter ride?
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY FRAT BROTHER AND EMMA WATSON
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I was just coming here to post about this
The GF and I were discussing this at the bar. I opined that he must have got Jonathan Sanchez’s eyebrow man. Same form. The GF said he looked like a very handsome Latina.
Both attractive Latinas.
Who are very, very good at the highest caliber professional baseball. Me not a fan of the waxed eyebrows, but good baseball players I like.
What do you mean you want a helicopter ride?
Not a fan. I don’t mind interrupting the unibrow, but anything more de-masculinizes the man.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Randy Wells and his 5.53 ERA
equals 7IP 2H 1ER
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
wtf?
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Implants that didn't set well!
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless he has a bunch of toddler toupees, that's pretty much what it would have to be. Otherwise he wouldn't just be missing some hair, he'd be bleeding from the loss of attendant scalp.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
toddlers are getting toupees now??
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
Hey DodgerFan, I just noticed you aren't a member of TrueBlueLA. Why?
SWING AND A MISS! AND THAT'S IT! The Giants are world series champions, and they come pouring out of the dugout!
-Duane Kuiper
Adopted Giant: Chris Stewart
by nothingbutnet003 on Aug 28, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what bothers me more:
WS bandwagoners, or “WTH is wrong with the Giants?”- angry “fans.”
Perhaps they’re the same thing?
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
So, wait
If people are angry at the Giants current performance, they aren’t fans?
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
Not what I'm saying at all.
Just noticing a lot of new names around here throwing around rage without much supporting facts for alternatives.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Ah, okay
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
Heh, owlcroft can only stay current on a finite number of sockpuppets. The rest of us can only muddle along.
Sure, but the number of people who "knew" about all of our biggest mistakes this year are getting annoying.
And again, it’s one thing to hear it from speckops/owlcroft/jprony, etc.
It’s quite another when it’s from considerably newer screen names.
/puts on wannabe hipster glasses, sits in corner, sees that nobody cares, and offers to buy 49er16 a drink.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
see sig
funny how the bandwagon is getting quiet. Wouldn’t it be nice to have it overloaded with newbies elated at a 10-game winning streak to get ready for the playoffs?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, now that I took a few hours to calm down, I suppose almost all of us were on a bandwagon at some point.
I guess a bandwagon fan is only shitty if they don’t stay on, right? Can’t always fault people for when they fall in love with something; it’s only going to suck if they don’t continue.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
and
I think it’s totally unrealistic to expect people to get excited about baseball teams featuring people like Ryan Klesko and Michael Tucker.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no problem with fans falling in love with the 2010 Giants
It’s when they suddenly become “experts” after following a team for half a season last year that drives me nuts.
There were a lot of idiots sitting around me at the game yesterday and I wanted to slap them all. Cain throws an 0-2 slider low and out of the zone and the idiot next to me yells, “C’mon Cain, you’re overthrowing!”
The thong is, it happened.
To be fair, he may have always been that dumb.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Before going to a Giants-Phillies game earlier this year, I was in line at the dugout store in front of two guys who spent what seemed like several minutes riffing on how hilarious it was that someone might want to buy a Mike Fontenot jersey….both of them mispronouncing his name every time.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
I came to terms long ago with the fact that most sportsfans, even even if they root for the same teams I do
Are still morons.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
They’re not Americans,
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably. Bandwagoners haven't had their torture immunity boosters yet, so going from the euphoria of a championship to this is probably a little jarring.
Whereas veteran fans are frustrated by the offense, but probably not terribly surprised by it, all things considered.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
True. We called it torture for a reason, but it was much more "celebrated" from September on.
Perhaps now they’re figuring out what we meant.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I've been posting here for several years
and the only names I really recognize are most of the mods.
I think there are things that have legitimately bothered some people for years—the catching situation with Molina and then Whiteside, the whole signing dead veterans and not developing any hitters mantra, etc. Much of that was forgotten/forgiven after last year but now it is coming back with a vengence.
While I do not disagree with anything you list here,
I do not agree with your pigeonholing of Whiteside in the GDT. Sure, he’s not great, but it seemed to me that you were milking hindsight a bit unfairly.
If I had known three years ago that Posey would come up, be great, and then be horribly injured, would I have signed Whiteside? Likely not. But who has that kind of knowledge? There was still the seemingly un-removeable Molina to deal with, and that’s where pretty much everyone’s attention was focused.
When Whiteside was signed, nobody was turning cartwheels, but it’s not like there was a general consensus of him being the ultimate turd-in-a-basket-WTF-is-Sabean-thinking, either.
And, for the record, I wasn’t calling you out individually with my initial comment here. I’m man enough to tell you if I think you’re full of shit (which I don’t) rather than passive-aggressively lumping you into a comment. I’m sorry if it came out that way.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I didn't think you were doing that
that said, I’ve never liked Whiteside and I could never figure out why he was on the team.
Reasonable minds can agree to disagree.
Sounds good.
Looking to the future, I’d certainly be open to other backups for Posey…not sure what else is out there, but Whitey has proven he’s best in small doses.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I’d say Whitey has proven he’s best in no doses.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
This would be my comment as well
It really does prove that the easiest route to the majors is at the catcher position.
It is possible that in September they could resemble a baseball team and not just pitching.
Torres could be ok again. Beltran could achieve career norms. Belt could continue his slow upward arc. Huff could continue his August attempt to achieve nearly respectable offense and get moved to LF / bench. Ross could streak. Bochy could have a seizure and go rational and start Fontenot at SS as best available of bad options. Sabean could have the same seizure and release Tejada, Cabrera, and Rowand. DeRosa could prove himself to be kind of a Kleppinger clone, steady singles hitter and ok fielder.
If all these things happen the Giants could achieve average offense during September, which could get them tied or better with ARI.
What do you mean you want a helicopter ride?
That is my sincere hope
if the Giants achieve average offensive production, they’ll be back in the World Series
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
While this is mathematically possible, there are too many variables that kick my optimism in the nuts.
As usual, it’s a situation where I’d love to be wrong, but I’m sure tired of watching these kinds of games.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
very tired…and I think that’s because we’ve been watching “these kind of games” for a long long time. It’s been awhile since the Giants had a consistently good offense.
Watching other teams, like the Phillies or thinking about the early ‘00 teams makes me sad because I can remember what it’s like when three run home runs are possible or four run innings or that feeling that no matter, this team is never out of it because of their offense.
To have something like that again….
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Any semblence of an offense would be welcome
At this point, if the other team goes up so much as one run I feel like the game is over
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Aug 28, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Also, this year brings back the last six, minus the WS win, when the Giants were utterly boring at best and reminded you of your most personally embarrassing failure moment regularly. I am not one of those Obsessive Giants Compulsive types who forget the utter Houstonian crap this team has fielded. The tragedy is the pitching: front office incompetence is driving them away — and they have stripped the minors of future pitching talent. Honestly, Dick Tidrow as GM would have the sense to acquire somebody who can scout and acquire offense. And game management.
What do you mean you want a helicopter ride?
honestly, the part where Sabean just releases a bunch of guys
like Tejada and Rowand (especially Rowand) is the part that would give me encouragement, but I doubt it is going to happen.
With that said, baseball is a funny game. It might just take Torres getting hot to get the team going.
no way that happens
with the players currently on the roster
WS bandwagoners are way worse
"WTH is wrong with the Giants?" is a perfectly acceptable question
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
If it weren’t for bandwagon fans, the Giants would be the A’s. No, thanks.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
by El Person on Aug 28, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think we need to give up a few more grand slams first,
but I see your point.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I can only think of three possibilities here.
1) You define bandwagon as ‘folks who became fans after the team moved to California,’ in which case all the Giants fans are bandwagoners.
2) You’re implying that without the WS bandwagon fans, the Phone Booth would be empty because the team has no ‘real’ fans.
3) Chasm and I’m dangerously close to falling in.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
What I'm saying is that every team has a small core of committed fans who will always be there
The A’s have that, and nothing more. The Giants, on the other hand, have a good park and a good team. The fans who show up for that make the difference.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
but the fans at the Phone Booth have become really good fans— as good as any— and it’s kind of nice to hear them still out there and still cheering the team on. And, hell, it could be even nice to be blissfully unaware of just how awful Rowand is so the blood pressure doesn’t go up everytime he plays
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I would rec this
a billion times if I could.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
So you're saying Ethier's not really hurt? Oh thank heaven!
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever his condition, I’m sure he’s making a delightful beef bourguignon.
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I have no idea how to pronounce what you just said, never mind what it even IS.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a polite joke aimed at Mr. Ethier’s reputation as a foodie.
And it’s pronounced “beef bore-zhin-YOHN.”
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I had no idea Monsieur Ethier was a gourmet.
Especially given his partnership with Farmer John to raise food for the LA-area food banks. I mean, that’s not really my idea of ‘food,’ you know?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
And I’ll add to Natto’s link with this piece from the Wall Street Journal about Andre’s love of food. It’s one of things I like about him. Don’t tell Alex Lewis.
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Fair enough, but there are enough foodies on this site that we'd almost welcome him if he signed with the Giants!
/sees Ethier’s batting stats, begins work on “Welcome!” sign
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
He's a little fragile. I'm afraid TL2 would break him.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you suggesting TL2 is to blame for the current spate of injuries?
That’s dedication.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it would explain quite a bit.
I’d have to beat his ass for destroying my team, but that’s an entirely different hypothetical situation altogether.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
I don’t understand. Am I being blamed for Giants injuries, or Dodgers injuries?
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Giants, presumably.
I’m only saying that Ethier’s a little fragile, and proximity to you probably would probably exacerbate that.
His implication was that that’s not any different from the Giants as currently constituted, which led me to wonder as to your role vis à vis the existing San Franciscan DL!
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually
It’s a hard “g”. As a general rule, hard “g” before a “u,” “o,” or “a” en française.
And I made a mistake!
Should be “en français.” Not sure why though. I was thinking “la langue française,” but for whatever reason when used without the noun it becomes masculine.
The language itself is masculine (like “espanol”) but “la langue” (“la lengua” en espanol) is feminine.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
And in your sentence, “francaise” is an adjective.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Le nerd.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it really spelled like that?
In that case, it seems like it ought to be spelled bougignon.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
bourgignon
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
And I see that taliesin already got there.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I used to be reasonably fluent in written French, but fucked if I could spell half the words in the language without a dictionary.
My active command of the language is significantly more limited than it was 13 years ago, but I can still (mostly) understand it when I read it.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Aug 28, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a "u"
Bourguignon. Otherwise the adjectival form of “Bourgogne” would have a soft “g.”
lol France
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 28, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So
3 vs the Cubs
then
3 vs the Snakes
By the end of this week I guess we’ll know whether the season is over or not…
Thank god
I’m sick of waiting to find out.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 28, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The D’backs do play the Rockies next…so if the Giants can get their shit together against the Cubs, we still have a chance /knows this won’t happen
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Aug 28, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm very scared
No one is hitting. Beltran needs to find his power against Cubs. At least start stroking a few doubles. Since joining the Giants his hit a whopping two.
It is already over
Look at it this way, unless the Giants sweep the DBacks, they at most gain 1 game.
The offensive woes have been around all year, however, earlier in the year they were winning all the one run games that they are now losing. It wasn’t hard to see this coming and unfortunately it also means that it probably isn’t just some funk that they will come out of.
As I said upthread, catching the D'backs might not be likely, but nothing's over
I wish I had a dollar for everytime someone said it was over last year.
The thong is, it happened.
Everyday I think to myself “this could be the day they start righting the ship”.
Everyday I end up thinking “LOL”.
"With a guy like that, you have six beers, pass out, come to the park and hit."
by deuce deuce on Aug 28, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions 12 recs
the thing is, their offense can’t be THIS bad. Today’s lineup was the best possible lineup and it’s even a fairly decent lineup all things considering yet once again, they couldn’t get it done. Which is why there’s probably a lot of people thinking the same thing because there’s too many guys who are good hitters now, were good hitters just a year ago, who are just sucking.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah!?!
the thing is, their offense can’t be THIS bad.
Exactly. It’s almost illogical how bad they are. How hard is it to hit a 2 run home run every once in awhile or string more than 2 hits together in an inning? The fact that it’s impossible for even that to happen is crazy. There are good hitters on this team right now
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
More small ball!
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by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions
There is one, mayb two "good" hitters on the team. The rest are mediocre, and it's showing.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Make that three good hitters
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
okay then
3 good hitters plus a few streaky guys which average out to mediocre and a black hole usually at 7, 8, and 9 unless Belt’s stuck at 7.
Is it fair to say that the Giants are giving up 4-5 outs each time through the lineup?
It seems so to me, and the suckitude is loud and smelly.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's fair, having witnessed it today
I still think that Andres has shown enough spark that if he weren’t yanked out of the lineup every day, he could make a difference.
Pablo and Beltran are great hitters. Belt can be and Kepp’s pretty decent. That’s four players who deserve to be in a lineup. Throw in Huff and Torres, two players everybody still hopes can turn it around and Nate and you have the makings of a somewhat respectable lineup. Certainly better than the Astros or the ’09 team. And certainly better than a team that can struggles to score more than 2 a game
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff sure looks like he's taking pitches again
I mean, singles aren’t dingers, but they’re something.
I consider them both very good, but not great (I know, Cholly) , and I agree with you on Belt and Kepp.
But how long do you hold out for a guy to “turn it around”? Will Rowand turn it around? Huff? Ross? My crystal ball is in the shop, so I have no idea, but to assume that they’ll improve this month or even next year is rolling some major dice, IMO.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand turn around to what?
The guy who sometimes hits .240 with some timely hitting to warrant spending half a season starting in the outfield basically derping whenever possible and just pissing me off personally?
he was only slightly below average once upon a time!
for a year or two at the start of the contract, anyway
I was trying to be gracious to him.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And he will return your grace
with being confused by his bat, stepping out of the box, and swinging it like it’s anatomically incorrect.
Panda’s 127 wRC+ would be top 50 in the majors if he qualified. Beltran is somewhere in the top 25. Those strike me as great.
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I was mentally using like a top 20 cutoff for great, and I don't think top 50 is great, but this is all debatable
I give you Beltran as great, but Panda, at least for me stays very good. How do you rate Belt? Kepp?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with GiantPain on his assessment of Kepp: good for the position, below average over all. Dunno about Belt. He’s still got K issues, but he’s raked at every level in the minors, so I’m sure he’ll be at least an average first baseman eventually. I guess I usually do my cutoffs in multiples of 30.
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Can someone explain to me why Ks are always taken into such great account?
I mean, I understand that you have to put the ball in play to have a chance for a hit, but as long as Belt is getting on base at a good clip, which he is, I don’t see why a high K rate would be much, if at all worse, than a pop-up rate.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 28, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Please correct me if I'm wrong
But ultimately, as long as you’re putting the ball in play, you’re going to have a better chance at something happening than if you’re whiffing like a goober.
BBelt got a good enough swing that he’ll be grounding softly to 2nd in no time at all.
You're correct
And if he could somehow decrease that rate, it would be awesome.
But quotes like this:
Dunno about Belt. He’s still got K issues
Seem to insinuate that Belt won’t be or can’t be a productive hitter until he cuts down on his K rate, which is just untrue.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 28, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Well with rookies you always have to be concerned as to whether or not pitchers can “figure them out.” I don’t think that’s the case with Belt, and still think he’ll be a really good hitter.
There’s still a nonzero chance that Belt may not be a very good hitter at the MLB level.
That is cray-z.
Pretty much this. He’s got really good recognition of high/low/outside stuff, but the inside part of the plate is where he’s been hammered so far. And I’m pretty sure today’s backwards K on a curveball was right over the inner half of the plate. I’m pretty sure he’ll start covering that, but he really needs to be swinging at the inner-half-of-the-plate stuff or pitchers are just going to exploit it.
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Like with any young player.
But he hasn’t really given me any reason to worry. His K% at the moment is 25.4. In AAA this year he posted a 22.2 K% and still OPSed just under 1.000.
It’s just part of his game.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 28, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is a list of qualified players in the majors with a K% north of BB (currently at 26.6% after this game): Dunn, Stubbs, Reynolds, Olivo, Stanton, Kelly Johnson, Willingham, Howard, Pena, B.J. Upton, Austin Jackson, Fowler. Of those 12, 5 (Reynolds, Stanton, Willingham, Howard, and Pena) have wRC+ of >100. (Stubbs is right at 99.)
The commonality? They all have massive power, ISO > .200. So if you think that Belt’s minor league power will translate to the majors, then him K’ing north of 25% of the time isn’t an issue. But if he’s only ISO’ing .150 or so, then a K rate of 25% is a problem.
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Well he’s ISO’ing .171 at the moment, and that’s about .05 below his lowest mark in the minors, so I would only expect that to rise as he matures. Meanwhile, his BB% is down quite a bit from his lowest mark in the minors, so I would expect that to rise at least a little.
I guess Ks are more indicative of a problem than I originally thought, but even if that rate doesn’t drop, he can be a good player.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 28, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The 7 qualified guys who K>25% but <100 wRC+ have an unweighted average ISO of ~.150. Their unweighted average wRC+ is 85, which is better than Aubrey Huff’s wRC+ this year (81). Just food for thought.
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For future reference
Are you manually collecting all this info or are you using a site?
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 28, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just usually Fangraphs. Averages are unweighted since I didn’t want to copy-paste everything into Excel (although they do have the option to export everything to Excel or CSV). I’m sure there’s a better way to do it, but for qnd purposes, it works.
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I think Belt will probably always have a high K rate, just due to his approach. He takes a lot of pitches. Because of that he walks a lot, and he also Ks looking more than the average player. With either one of those results, he sees a lot of pitches. There are many worse alternatives.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 28, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
in todays game ruled by pitch counts, a guy who strikes out and sees a ton of pitches might be more valuable than a guy who has a higher BA but hacks away
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Well you don’t want either. But usually with a high K rate you’re going to have more trouble putting up a good batting average.
Lots of the guys that strike out the most are usually above average hitters, due to the fact that they typically walk a lot and/or have power (both of which Belt possess). But there is always a concern for guys that approach 30% K rates, because it means that they better be doing very well when they make contact.
That is cray-z.
Or they need to compensate for it with high BB rates, which Belt has had in the minors (less so in the majors, but that will improve).
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 28, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
It really just seems like he needs to face ML pitching more
And get his recognition down, because his eye is already better than 90% of this team.
Maybe
I found his 10th inning at-bat tonight a bit dispiriting. To me it was obvious that the pitcher was not going to throw him anything but breaking balls (which he did). Nevertheless Belt was caught looking on a breaking ball. I felt he should have been expecting that pitch. That he didn’t makes me wonder about his thought process. Maybe he’s just been so good at recognizing pitches when he was at lower levels that he never had to guess before.
I thought it was a pretty nasty breaking ball, though. He’s not the first hitter to get frozen on a big curveball on the inside part of the plate.
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Don’t get me wrong. It was a good pitch. And I don’t know what was in his mind. Maybe he over-thought it and convinced himself that the pitcher wasn’t going to throw him another curveball. To me, though, it was going to be a curveball, and since I knew I felt he should have known.
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Hahah. For instant gratification?
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just in case they are needed
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Belt’s a 1B or a corner outfield. High K rates with high BB rates aren’t enough to make him a really good player. He needs the power and the plate discipline, which of course he’s shown, and thus why he’s already the third best hitter on the team.
That is cray-z.
Of course
My point is that you can strike out a ton and still be a good or even great player.
In 2009, Ryan Howard struck out in 26.2% of PAs and still OPSed .931. Now Belt may not ever slug .571, but he can probably OBP over .360.
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by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 28, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I really doubt that Belt, even if his talent comes to fruition, will be a guy that hits 25+ HR’s, which will make it hard for him to balance striking out 20% of the time.
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by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Keppinger is a platoon bat with fairly weak defense.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I’m not saying they’ll turn it around, I’m just saying that they still have the potential too and if Huff and Torres start hitting, you have a real lineup. The original, point, though, is that we’re looking at a historically bad offense and I don’t know how this team is historically bad. Bad, yes. But this awful?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I do not understand why everyone seems to forget Kepp
A solid singles machine is basically what Freddy did plus having a nice glove.
You know, I cannot tell you why, but I NEVER think of him. He hasn't made much of an impression on me, I guess.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't forget him
But he’s not a “good” hitter. He’s an OK hitter relative to his position. He’s a nice piece. But he’s solidly below average as a hitter.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
KBIU is more of the least problem than a solution
I mean, Freddy having an above average glove was important to his value.
Freddy is a much better hitter than Kepp, methinks. When he’s not in the 2 hole giving away ABs to move runners over, Freddy is a solid hitter who seems to be able to hit any pitch. He’s good for a whole lot more XBH’s than Kepp, too
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
but it is THIS bad
and has been all year. All the smoke and mirror 1 run games that went their way earlier in the season are now going the other way.
my effin' boy
Farm system outfield in two years. Pegs, Brown, and Great with Belt at 1b and Huff in Anaheim or Kansas City.
Praise all that is holy, I have internet again
Had to conduct an entire twitterdebate with Murph from KNBR on my phone. Not optimal!
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Oh snap
knbrmurph Brian Murphy
@LoganDobson I’m fairly safe in knowledge you and I would not enjoy attending a game together. I loved Crawford’s glove!
1 hour ago
I think I would enjoy attending a game with you, though.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Some other guy on twitter also accused me of being a veteran-lover
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
You should accuse him of being un-patriotic
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 28, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, and despite the fact that none of you care:
This was the night when I started to think it’s more likely than not that the Giants won’t make the playoffs.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
welcome to the boredwagon
I take it you 86’d the trip to NY for the weekend?
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by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I did, though I don't think it would have been that bad.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
It’s just better to not be on the road during storms when you don’t have to be, IMO.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 28, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Good thing you didn’t actually make that bet.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I couldn’t even get him to agree to a gentleman’s bet!
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I told you
I’m not one of those.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
EVEN MONEY NERBS!
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I still think the odds are 40%+
So I’d take 2-to-1 bets at this time.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I started when the Giants couldn’t hit the Astros’ one-two punch of Sosa and Happ
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by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m in a state of acceptance
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
by Useful_Idiot on Aug 28, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I miss Buster Posey.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
and freddy
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
I went to my first game of the year today
I had a good time, but I had to explain to my friend why I spit out my drink when I saw Aaron Rowand pinch hitting.
Question for all of you people who are dying inside like me
Is there really any point in playing whiteside over stewie at this point? I can’t imagine.
Whiteside can hit a little.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Emphasis on little
It’s really not that much better to justify watching him bounce balls off his chest all day.
by Cap M on Aug 28, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm firmly in this camp.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
not to mention the fact every team knows they can run on him or the two or three passed balls he gives up a game. There’s a couple of games you could almost pin on him for doing something sucky at the worst possible moment.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Stewart cannot hit at all. When Stewart is playing, it’s like having two pitchers in the lineup.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Eh.
ZiPS like ‘em about the same, actually. I’d rather play Stewart, all things considered.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m pretty sure you were screaming about how much better Whiteside was from the rooftops a couple months ago.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
No that was me, although it was most likely a joke since he was hitting better than our cleanup hitter at the time.
That is cray-z.
To quote myself earier in the season
“If you could somehow combine Stewart’s defense with Whiteside’s offense, you’d still have a sh*tty catcher”
The thong is, it happened.
and running Cabrera, whitey and a pitcher in a row really makes a difference
We suck at producing runs anyway, better maximize our ability to not give them up.
Sure, it’s not the best long term solution, but I’d rather play all glove at the places that are going to suck anyway.
I just think the pitchers have enough things to worry about than their pitcher always being run on or letting balls go by him. I saw him cost Cain a run against the Phillies by letting a ball get by him and if I were Cain, I’d be furious. Of course, I’m not— he probably apologized to Eli afterwards for not throwing a pitch that was closer to his glove
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't mind the blocks
it’s the balls to the backstop and into CF that mean whitey gotta go.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:30 AM PDT up reply actions
read that as
“I don’t mind the blacks”
Especially in conjunction with “whitey gotta go.”
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
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Unfortunately, little is the operative word.
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Eli Whiteside looks awful. He should work on his swing
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Missing fastball after fastball right down the middle of the plate is something I don't want to see again.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was sitting here watching with Alex during that last strikeout, and we both were astonished at the fatness of those pitches he whiffed.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at the ballgame and our group was wondering if it is possible that Eli’’s recent near concussion may have affected his early pitch recognition.
"And you fueled and energized this group, all the way through the crazy month of September. And into what was an epic month of October, and what was one glorious day of November." - Kruk
I mean, at least foul one straight back.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I’d prefer a platoon of Hector Sanchez and Chris Stewart to Eli Whiteside right now.
by WasabiTorture on Aug 28, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
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"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
So you are saying Hector Sanchez is the answer?
by Hyoton on Aug 28, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what I'm taking away from this. Hector Sanchez IT IS THEN! SETTLED!
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster Posey is the answer.
But he’s not around right now, is he?
by WasabiTorture on Aug 28, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
What if the question
is “Who is not the answer?”
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I know one thing for sure.
Aaron Rowand is not the answer.
by WasabiTorture on Aug 28, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
What if the question is, "I don't have any demolition equipment and I need someone to run into this wall to knock it down. Know anyone?"
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
What party is complete without that guy?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
You just brought down the Borg.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
seriously
he looks about as good defensively as Whiteside and he’s hitting .315/.340 in AAA.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
We don't need any .340 OBP guys around here!
We have Cabrera and Tejada and Whiteside, oh my
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
.340 is his SLG
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
So .315 is his OBP? or AVE?
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
OBP
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Well then, my original comment is still good!
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve forgotten it. I’m bitter.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Folly has gone to bottle/drink wine. I also, but without the first part.
And I’ll have to leave soon to revise the precious syllabus for this year. It won’t change much. I’ll try to work in a “no whining” aspect to their grades. It’s not technically legal.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL that is so pathetic
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember when Tejadas OPS was just points above .500?
I was SO rooting for it to fall into the .400s.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
DeRosa’s is in the .400s. As is Bill Hall and Burriss.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Good reasons to have each in SF come Sept. 1. Pennant drive, here we come!
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants Baseball: Together We’re Not Replacement-Level
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions
BUT HE’S MASHING IN AAA
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He, Cody Ransom, Willy Mo Pena, and a few others
are like a super powered super hero team that only basically fights elementary school bullies.
Willie Mo is practically in the AAA hall of fame
I remember hearing how he was a once in a generation hitter
I DON’T CARE WHAT HE’S DOING TO POTATOES!!!!! SEPTEMBER CALL UPS ARE FOR SEEING FUTURE PLAYERS NOT CURRENT HAS BEENS!!!!!!
Hopefully the blood we've offered to the Baseball Gods
Will be enough to quench their bloodlust
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I want Whiteside, Rowand, Tejada and Cabrera offered up
You know, 4-1 deal on giving back someone’s soul.
Combined they'r worth 7 falafel, a small greek salad and a soft drink.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm watching 2012
I don’t know why I am doing this to myself.
That movie was so bad I watched the entire thing, just to see if it got the slightest bit decent. Nope.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That movie had one of the most preposterous plot points I've ever seen
The sea covering the Himalayas.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
Welcome to my new adopted Giant, Carlos Beltran. Well, actually, you're more like a foreign exchange student staying at my house for the summer. Regardless, win us a world series!
wow this movie was bad
There was literally nothing redeeming about this movie. Nothing!
I’m glad I didn’t go see it
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Positives from this game:
Rowand and Whiteside striking out on three pitches. If you’re going to strike out, do it quickly so we don’t have do watch your at bats.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Positive from at the game
I’m pretty sure any of the dog caricatures from the pregame show could play better at short than any of our current options
Oh btw
Aren’t you just so happy that Tejada pinch hit a really shitty bunt? Wasn’t that so worth going back to the bullpen?
Watched three episodes of Season 3 last night.
I like that half the lead characters are bald guys over 40.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not a fair comparison
The Ishikawa game would have ended in a Giants win if the blown call had been made correctly. In this case, a) it’s not clear that the call was actually wrong and b) even if DeRosa had been called safe, we can’t assume that Beltran would still have gotten the hit in the next AB.
Honestly, winning the WS has made things harder for me as a Giants fan
Their performance is like a hygiene factor now; I expect them to be good, and when they’re not, I’m unhappy. When they’re good, I just think, “that’s right fuckers, you’re supposed to win,” and the satisfaction to dissatisfaction ratio is low.
/spoiled and ungrateful
That is cray-z.
It just hurts when there are clearly fixable things
At least that’s the way it’s been for me. Also, why Affeldt? Did Javi Lopez stop being amazing or something?
Yes, you are. I went through 40 years of denial and frustration before last year’s dessert. As I said at the time, I selfishly felt like it was all for me.
And some others, I guess. But let’s not be gluttons.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed . . .
. . . there’s nothing like NOW.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm out for a while. Gotta bottle some wine and drink some in the process. With luck I'll be able to find my computer later.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
On a brighter note
I just beat Deus Ex. Two thumbs up
"Can Manchester United score? They always score... Peter Schmeichel is forward... Beckham, in towards Schmeichel- it's come for Dwight Yorke. Cleared... Giggs with a shot- SHERINGHAM!"
Missed the game today
I consider myself the lucky one.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
looks like you are the true winner
/sigh
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
(;_;)
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
for a second I thought that face was a vampire
lol
I'm on the twitters @FFFFFFFFreak55
shift-A
This season reminds me of a Richard Hell quote about maybe the Neon Boys, where he says he knew they were getting good because the audiences would be like motorists driving past a car wreck, unable to look away, agape.
That’s how I feel every time I see a box score.
I can’t watch the games any more.
At least we have a lot of shitty options to choose from!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
glad I missed but didn’t miss the game.
Looks like this one is over- We were 1 game out 6 days ago, and while we played 6 games at home vs last place teams, we actually lost 3 games in the standings.
I’m just at a loss as to what exactly happened that caused this massive slide. Sure, we have “excuses” with all the injuries, but we were still hanging tough without Posey and Franchez. It wasn’t Beltran, either. But something happened to this team that shook their confidence so deeply that it ruined the season.
huh. I suppose I’m more disappointed that they had it and they’ve blown it. Sure ain’t easy to lose 9 games in the standings within a month.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
You gotta have heaaaaaaart
Miles and miles and miles of heart
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
by speckops on Aug 29, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They're shitty.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
my other thought is that we are getting real close to the pitchers hitting FA, and they need to have a good offense in 2012 if they plan on re-signing Cain and Timmeh, yknow, show the pitchers the team is committed to providing them with run support.
What do you do? Freddy and Buster are still iffy in terms of repeating past performances due to returning from injuries, while Torres and Huff are iffy due to big-time drops in performance. Nate could be iffy as a starting RF because we don’t know whether this year was a fluke, and while Belt is good, he’s still a rookie who will need an adjustment period.
In short, there’s nothing even remotely close to guaranteed production from the position players, save Pablo. They need known quantities, and if it means trading a pitcher for a very good young hitter, I just might do it. It’s fine to have a pitching-heavy team, but it needs to be a little more balanced than “literally best pitching, literally worst hitting”
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
you know what, forget it.
I don’t want to talk about how Sabean will fuck up the offseason with veteran dumpster diving signings.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
this
was the reason to get a real SS last offseason and a C at the end of May.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions
So
Any help on the way via the waiver wire?
"With a guy like that, you have six beers, pass out, come to the park and hit."
We could’ve had Lance Berkman
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, for Brandon Belt.
no way was STL giving him up for anything less.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt they would’ve held onto him for anything but Belt.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
most assuredly. putting Berkman out there was taking a shot at fleecing a very desperate team.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
He cleared waivers. I’m not sure what that means, but we might have gotten him for less.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That means nobody claimed him. Doesn’t mean anything with regards to Cardinals’ appetite.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
Still, that says something about his trade value. The Cards would probably give him up for less.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Aug 28, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
there's no way in hell his upgrade in value over what we have
is worth our future. If we’re going to make a painful trade to try and save this season for a reasonable upgrade, it’s gotta be ramon hernandez
i don't understand why he cleared waivers
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
my guess would be that teams passed up on him hoping teams ahead of them would claim him and shell out half their farm system for a 1 month rental.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s usually not how waiver trades work
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
It would be a business decision. Pass up on him, and hope the better teams weaken themselves for the future by trading top prospects for a 1 month rental.
I wouldn’t have been upset if the Giants didn’t claim him and the DBacks did, then handed over someone like Goldschmidt for 1 month of Berkman.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not how waiver trades usually work, you’re right, but this late in the season, that’d be my best guess.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Goldschmidt would have to clear waivers to be traded for Berkman
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Ohhhhhhh I didn’t think about that.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
She’s a visionary. It’s why she will be the chosen one to lead the revolution when the time comes.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Jponry for Mod in the North!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
because that turned out so well!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
pssst
keep your wolf with you.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you don’t have to clear prospects who aren’t on the 40 man, but that’s it.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Do you know if he’d only have to clear up to the Cardinals? I.e. the Giants could’ve blocked a hypothetical Berkman-Goldschmidt trade by claiming Berkman but not by claiming Goldschmidt as the return piece since they have a lower priority than the Cardinals?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Goldschmidt was just for lack of a better name.
a bunch of minor league prospects could work then, right? or would even they have to clear waivers?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe you can trade prospects who aren’t on the 40 man roster without them having to clear waivers
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
so in theory, my idea could have worked.
but now it’s gotten so complicated that I doubt that’s what any GMs were trying to do.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I watched Brooklyn’s Finest before the game, great movie a little depressing at the end. Then I watched the game, great game very depressing at the end.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
not sure about the game, but that scene where dude gets beaten down with baseball bats at the end while screaming “tell my kids I love them” is pretty gnarly.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
or wait am I thinking of a different movie?
one I’m thinking of had Colin Farrell, Edward Norton?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Don Chedel and Richard Gear were in this one, different movie.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
I was thinking of Pride and Glory
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
havnt watched that one yet but it sounds like I should
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
…if you like seeing cops beaten to death by angry mobs with baseball bats.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m always surprised when there are Richard Gere movies that aren’t bad remakes of Japanese movies.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s only a matter of time before he does his own adaptation of The Girl Who Leapt Through Time.
The Gere Who Leapt Through Time?
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
The theater near my house is showing American Graffiti next weekend. I think I’ll go watch it.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Can’t_Help_It is much, much more interesting.
That does sound interestin.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I was shocked at Richard Dreyfus’ appearance in this movie. Both the fact that he was playing a teenager at like, 30, and that he didn’t look like Grandpa Dick Cheney, which is how I always thought of him.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Aug 28, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
eh
no big deal, although supporting these kind of screenings is a worthy cause.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Napoli is posting an ISO of nearly .300. Texas and all, but holy crap.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I wonder if Wheeler would have been enough for him. Napoli/Posey alternate 1B/C next year
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
his stock has most certainly skyrocketed by now though.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
TJ Simers is playing demagogue for Andre Ethier.
My case for Ethier being an asshole is laid to rest.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Also, that game sucked. Should I write a hyperbolic fanpost about how much Andre Ethier is a douchebag, or has that been played out?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
ooooh, Ted Lilly is throwing Ethier under the bus as well. Delicious.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I really want to go to a Giants/Dodgers game and taunt Ethier.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I don’t understand why the Dodgers haven’t let go of Loney and moved Ethier to first.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Who would they play in RF?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Kemp
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Oh, duh. And I suppose TG Jr would be CF?
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I was thinking Trayvon Robinson. Oh, wait—
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I completely agree with that article Grant just tweeted – Tejada totally dogged it down the line in the 11th. I noticed that while watching the game. What a POS… no more respect whatsoever for that guy. Cut him now please.
"I give up that lead-off double, well, who cares? I'm about to get nasty." - Brian Wilson
Roberto Kelly
was a very fun player to watch. I would rather watch him play baseball now than Mr. Fake Birth Cert Roidmonster Convicted Perjurer Tejada.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions
there’s no use for a whiny gritty veteran who won’t do what’s asked of him
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
There’s only three of them on the team, so I don’t know what the big deal is it doesn’t matter that they’re being paid 20 million dollars or so.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
wait, what’d Tejada do? I didn’t see the game.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
or link to said article?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s the link
"I give up that lead-off double, well, who cares? I'm about to get nasty." - Brian Wilson
by GrooveGiant on Aug 28, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
jeebus
DFA tomorrow.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
seriously. I wouldn’t want an old crusty vet who yells at reporters for saying true things and refuses to be a team player.
they tell you to bunt, you fucking bunt!
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
he laid down a pathetic bunt that could have easily gotten the runner out at second and then didn’t run down the line
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
that’s weak. what a punk. It always seemed like his ego was too big for this team. Swinging through “take” signs, etc…
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard it on the radio and my reaction is if if you’re done a run in extra innings, why are you bunting? Was Bochy trying for more extra innings? Was I even crazy for thinking that was beyond idiotic?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He was trying to tie the ballgame up.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
but shouldn’t you be playing for the win instead of the tie? Why give up an out if you need two runs?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t, for whatever reason, conventional wisdom that you play for the tie at home and the win on the road. I think, because when you’re at home you know you’ll bat again if it’s tied.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course, this was supremely negated by PH’ing Rowand after the bunt.
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LOL YES
This is true…sigh…..
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
I thought that was debateable, but OK
I’m pretty sure the bunt increases the odds of scoring ONE run — so, tying the game and avoiding the loss, at least temporarily. I’m not sure if, in that situation, it increases the odds of actually winning the game, but my hunch is that it does.
I’m pretty sure their chance of scoring exactly one run probably went up a slight amount (too lazy to locate RE24 table right now), but Fangraphs has their win probability moving down from 30% to 26% after the sac bunt.
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did rowand’s ph factor in the drop in %??
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
We had a 26% chance of winning the game when Rowand came to the plate, which assumes an average hitter for that situation vs. an average pitcher for that situation.
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Thanks
Shows that my hunches aren’t worth much. It does remain the case that playing for the tie is utterly conventional in that spot, even if it isn’t wise.
The real issue wasn’t the sac bunt. The real issue was sending up Rowand as the guy to come through.
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There was no one else
I hate Rowand as much as anyone, but he and Stewie were the only guys left on the bench. I wish there were better players on the roster, but there aren’t. In truth even if you re-wound everything back to the 7th inning so everyone was available, none of the bench players from today would have been appreciably better than Rowand. That’s a failure on Sabean’s part, not Bochy’s.
Ross?
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by speckops on Aug 28, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh wow
I forgot Cody Ross existed. Does it really change the equation much, though? I would rather have had Ross up there, but he’s also been excruciatingly bad the last two months.
Cody Ross OBP July/August: .270
Aaron Rowand OBP July/August: .240
Also, Rowand has walked once in the last two months and hit 0 sacrifice flies.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions
FTFY
Rowand has walked once in the last two months and hit 0 sacrifice flies.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
hahahaha
I know Sac Flies is kind of a junk stat but I noticed when I was tallying the OBP. Gritty veteran bats are supposed to be able to make productive outs, you know.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s obviously dependent on hitters in front of you but I think it is a skill.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I think
the skill there is “not striking out on 3 pitches”.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Man
Remember back in June when Cody was quietly putting together his best major-league season? That was cool.
POD RACERS
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I think, in a way, Bochy knew that he’d be lucky to get a run, let alone two so he managed like it. Which is even more depressing. And almost depressing is I don’t know how many other people at that moment even thought two runs were possible
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Not I.
/looks around < >
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
crawford/burriss/ford/belt
cruising almost 20 games up
veterans suck, dfa rowand/derosa/tehaha
grow with energy, win
Trade Sabean/jk...Overthrow the Ydorks...
urgh…I don’t think craw/burriss/ford would be any better.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
DeRosa’s been helping the team lately and would have won us the game tonight if not for the Ump’s bad call.
"I give up that lead-off double, well, who cares? I'm about to get nasty." - Brian Wilson
by GrooveGiant on Aug 28, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
if he keeps making contributions, I’d offer him a 1yr/$1MM contract for 2012. maybe he could make himself somewhat useful?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
did he really just earn a contract from you after 2 good games?
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
I said “if he keeps making contributions”. Besides, it’s not like he’s a crusty old veteran who’s dragging on the team. He could be useful.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
$1m for a super utility player
who, when healthy (a rarity), can be productive? Sign me up.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
1yr/$1MM is nothing, and unless payroll goes significantly up, the Giants will have to be stingy this offseason.
if he is worth .2 WAR over all of 2012, he’d be worth it. then again, I might just be influenced by how useful he’s been making himself while playing through pain recently. saved a game with his glove on Fri
saved the game last night
saved the game again this afternoon
We’d probably have been swept if he wasn’t around.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
$1MM is nothing, but the opportunity of that roster spot is worth more than that probably.
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good point.
however at this juncture, I find the Giants having a hard time filling their 2012 roster with productive players who aren’t crusty old vets on their last legs.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I like DeRosa
But for me to want him back for any price he needs to hit one (1) HR with the allegedly fixed wrist. At that point I’d be willing to gamble that he could be a shadow of his 2008 self, and thus worthy of a roster spot. At this point, though, he seems like he’s likely to put up a .700 OPS from a corner IF spot. DNW.
don’t gotta hit HRs to be useful, and I wouldn’t want him starting.
but he has value on the field, and intangibles (yes, I said it!)
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Intangibles are what led to Cabrera being picked up.
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No, Cabrera was picked up to be a starting SS (from a team that was ready to DFA him because they were “going for it”).
Maybe I’m just letting my liking for DeRosa get in the way. I think he’s awesome. I was so happy for him last night.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you’re letting sympathy for his injuries cloud your judgment.
But I’d like to like him too, if I can only find a reason . . . or two.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
you don’t like him? even before last night, I liked him. sure, as a player, he’d been useless, but he is an intelligent person and baseball player.
Tejada, on the other hand, just reeks of an ego-driven person and baseball player.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
From Bagg’s blog:
–Sabean said the addition of Orlando Cabrera was "pretty academic isn’t it? Our guys look overmatched with the bat, and he has experience. We considered it an upgrade. We had to react to being undermanned and we couldn’t pass up the opportunity."
He has experience. Intangibles. I can’t believe that they picked him up for anything but that, given that his slash line was basically Tejada’s.
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Sabean, unlike most of us, can quantify the intangibles. This is why he isn't, according to himself, an idiot.
Giants baseball: So hollow, so empty.
"You don't go out with the pressure that you've gotta be perfect. It's more, 'I know I'm capable of throwing a shutout, so I should probably strive for that every time I go out. And if I don't, then I bite myself in the ass, not everybody else.' "--Tim Lincecum discussing how he deals with the shitty Giants offense.
by Sabean's_Folly on Aug 28, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
“Never trust an idiot’s self-assessment.” —Chinese proverb
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(not actually)
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Sabean himself has intangibles that he can’t quite describe.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 29, 2011 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Indians 2nd ranked prospect.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Not HR's, maybe
But he has to be able to get XBH’s, and at this point he does not. In my recollection he has only one XBH since coming back from the DL, and that was a ground ball down the line for a double. He has zero power. Not much power might be acceptable under the right circumstances. No power at all from a corner player is not acceptable in any scenario.
Crawford, Burriss, and Ford are all awful.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
More awful than Tejada, Rowand, and Cabrera?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
nope
and Ford would not (?) tempt Bochy to play him as much as Temptress Rowand.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
None of them can hit.
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by can of corn on Aug 28, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
but you can’t deny this team was better off when they were playing.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Correlation does not imply causation.
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but in this case, makes you wonder
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps it makes you wonder. Not so for me.
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Bochy did pull a couple games out of his ass by having Burriss and or Ford vrrooom all the way around the bases and score in the later innings. We haven’t had that in months because there’s really nobody on the team with speed.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
nor are there people that can get on base.
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Huff gets on in the 11th so you pull him for, say, Ford. And instead of having Tejada bunt, Ford steals the base so you’ve already gotten somebody on 2nd with no outs. It’s not much but it’s better than Bochy give away an out in extra innings. Right there’s something.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
huff only gets on base 30% of the time dude.
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Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
I was picking a particular situation, there dude
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Whom you callin’ dude, Dude?
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by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Or Ford gets thrown out. And then you’ve got bases empty, 1 out.
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Ford was a pretty lousy baserunner for a guy who’s supposed to be a really good baserunner.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 28, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
On that we agree completely.
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he didn’t even successfully steal 50% of his attempts, did he?
it was just too obvious. Bork would send him on the 1st pitch after inserting him as a PR. use the speed for other things, like distracting a pitcher to give a hitter the upper hand.
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
he seems to
look at the C a lot when he’s running.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s really not the reason we’re losing so many games.
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bad defense is a major culprit, with most of the errors coming from SS and 1B
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by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
and free bases from whomever is catching
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Time for more fun with numbers!
Crawford fielding percentage: .964
Tejada fielding percentage: .967
Cabrera fielding percentage: .972
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LOL RANGE AND PLAYS THAT AREN'T COUNTED AS ERRORS
Due to a 19th century game’s scoring system that rarely adapts.
Look, I’m not saying that Tejada and Cabrera are better defensively than Crawford. Clearly, they’re not. But even within the construct of giant4life83’s argument, it doesn’t make sense.
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Fair enough
To be honest, SS has not been the comedy of errors that was Huff in right, or Whiteside attempting to throw anyone out.
It’s a whole lot harder to make an error on a ball you can’t get to.
You’re telling me Tejada and Cabrera play better D than Crawford b/c their FP%’s are higher?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, sorry. Didn’t see you weren’t saying that.
then what about the “construct of my argument” doesn’t make sense? I said bad defense is a major culprit, and it has been with Cabrera and Tejada at SS.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
No, you specifically cited errors at SS and 1B. The numbers don’t really seem to back up that assertion. And, as owlcroft noted previously, most of Crawford’s errors did not seem due to balls that he could get to that most SS couldn’t, but simply throwing errors where he rushed himself and need not have.
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errors aren’t always awarded on plays that deserve them, either.
and like I said, you can’t get an error on a ball you can’t reach. as for Crawfords errors being on rushed plays, I couldn’t tell ya- I don’t remember them all. But that’s kinda the point, isn’t it? I remember all the errors Tejada has made because they cost the team dearly.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
if you don’t remember one guy making errors, but the other guy, you remember his errors because they are horrific, then that’s kinda the point that it was better when Crawford was playing.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Eye metrics strongly suggest
Crawford is far superior defensively. At this pt, I’d trade youthful exuberance and glovework over marginally better offense.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
And easy on the eye, as they used to say, hey slapsy?
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not attracted to dudes
but if i was, Crawford’s on the list.
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
ford has had all of 12 PA this year
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Doesn’t he have a ridiculous OBP in them?
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.300/.417/.300 #notsaying #butsaying
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5 SB
3 CS
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He didn’t get caught stealing too often in the minors, but in the majors he’s just looked awful on the basepaths.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
He’s fast, but not good at the actual art of stealing.
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by can of corn on Aug 28, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s like the anti-Beltran.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
OOOOO
5 steals in 10 AB!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Chasm? Please?
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by can of corn on Aug 28, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
initially, yes. but now I’ve realized this team really was better off when Crawford was here and Tejada/Cabrera weren’t playing SS.
my comment does not apply to Ford. He doesn’t really do anything.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
And, uh, Burriss?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
while trying to explain myself, remember that I'm someone who does believe in intangibles.
Crawford/Burriss was a pretty good run prevention middle IF, despite Burriss’ knack for errors. dude had range. I liked the youth, and the way they played. the team gelled well, the Giants were winning with them.
now they’ve got crusty old vets with no range who complain about bunting. I’d bet you Craw or Manny would be happy to bunt, and contribute to the team. I like the guys who don’t have massive egos, the guys who are playing hard trying to make it. they bring energy to the game, and I appreciate it.
/steps away slowly, runs from lunatic fringe throwing stats at me
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d bet you Craw or Manny would be happy to bunt, and contribute to the team.
With either of them, a well placed bunt is about as much as you could ever ask for. Especially Manny.
Does chemistry matter? Probably. Is it trumped ten-fold by talent? Almost certainly. They may have been winning with Burriss and Crawford, but I’d bet almost anything that their run differential was pretty much the same with Burriss and Crawford as without.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
chemistry is certainly trumped ten-fold by talent, I agree.
but the talent and current ceilings of Burriss/Crawford vs Tejada/Cabrera is probably 5:1 in favor of the young guys. Tejada/OCab got nothin’ left.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you are wildly overestimating the talent level of Crawford and Burriss. Burriss especially.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I think Crawford has a legitimate case compared to Tejada/Cabrera. But yes, Burriss is completely terrible.
That is cray-z.
Sure. Crawford’s wRC+ is higher than Burriss’ despite having a substantially lower BABIP. Burriss is just garbage.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Seriously
Are we so desperate we’ve gotten to the point of saying that the missing piece is Manny Burriss? Because frankly, at that point I draw the line. Season OVER.
I never said that. You’re inferring that from related comments.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
should we put an organ donor patch on his license so it looks legal?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
BLACK WOMEN CONTROL THE GATEWAY TO HUMANITY!
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I could use a new lymphatic system.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
it was a joke in reference to the movie Domino
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Haven’t seen it, but I’ve heard.
Thanks, Bar, but no sympathy sought. I feel good and I’m back at work.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
hey, I’m trying to stick up for Manny here! don’t knock me down, man!
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
but but but
manny took roids.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
bad manny, bad!! no walks for you today!
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm glad some people are blaming Beltran (more like Blehtran, amirite)
That guy has never unfairly received the criticism he doesn’t deserve.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
"And besides, if I wanted to participate in a mindless patriotic ritual where my voice isn’t really heard, I would vote." - Chris Marcil
True story
DeRosa got himself thrown out so that Beltran wouldn’t get any glory
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
he actually bribed the ump he was that dedicated
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Blerghtran
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Aug 28, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
HE LOOKED AT A PITCH THAT ONE TIME
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Right now I'm straight creepin' on some old Jayne Mansfield glamour shots.
And I care not who knows it. This is your fault, wcw.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
She died at 34? No shit.
Why is it that every blonde bombshell from that era slept with a hundred dudes, married four or five, and wound up dead early?
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Mariska Hargitay is her daughter. They look alike.
by non sequitur on Aug 28, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
/strokes chin whiskers
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
how dare you
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Hargitay's bewbs spring forth whisker stroking
hmm…
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
I was shocked when I found out Hargitay was her daughter. For some reason I didn’t make the connection.
Law and Order SVU is one creep show. I can’t believe Ice-T is on it too.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It ruined the John Munch character, too. This is a guy who started out with a David Simon imprimatur. Now he’s part of one of the shlockiest shows ever.
by non sequitur on Aug 28, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoah, what?
I’ve never watched SVU. Are you telling me that the Richard Belzer character on SVU is actually supposed to be the same guy as the one from Homicide? Because that actually kind of pisses me off.
He was also in The Wire!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
How do I not remember this?
Which season of the Wire?
Season 5
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
It was a very, very brief cameo in the fifth season, and he’s not even mentioned by name. The in-joke is that it’s a scene involving Gus Haynes, played by Clark Johnson, who was of course Meldrick Lewis on H:LOTS.
by non sequitur on Aug 28, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
how does every episode end?
This man raped that child! This is the molestor! This is the rapist, and it turns out it was his kid too!
It’s waaaaaaay overboard for tv.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never seen it, but my mom likes it, which means it’s probably awful.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
haha, that’s how I rate tv too. If mom likes it, then it’s not for me.
unless it’s Burn Notice, which is awesome
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently, Law and Order: UK is just a bunch of Doctor Who actors now.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
It is alleged
That the cops recognized her from her headless body at the crash scene. A fine urban legend that I would not wish debunked.
As I heard it, urban legend about decapitation. Her wig was found some distance the crash site and this led to the story.
I told you
I didn’t want the urban legend debunked!
Posting this cause someone here might use it for future use
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SF GIants Baseball 2011 = Torture Pt. 2. Home of 6 World Series Titles
SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ???. Home of 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
I am a fan of the Warriors and Lakers. I can become a fan of both teams. Nothing wrong with that.
Here's a fun exchange from yesterday's Crawfish Boxes GDT
Hi.
Pirates fan here. I was over at McCovey Chronicles and everyone there were being a bunch of jack asses. So I thought I’d come over here and see if you guys are more fun to talk to.
how were they being jackasses?
Saying everything sucks and every player sucks and how horrible they have it and how the game is over with it tied at 1…..
Just stupid crap like that. No sense of enjoying the game at all.
I was over there the first game of they series and they dont even talk about the game most of the time
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
What was for dinner, EP?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Macaroni and cheese.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Are you still at Stanford?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
No, I’ve been done with that for a while. First week of school is over already.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I’ll be having tonight’s fish for lunch tomorrow. I suspect I’ll just re-heat it. Then I’ll eat it.
Sort of like the sorrow for today’s game.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Every now and then it’s fun to search SBN for “McCovey Chronicles.”
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
And through that I found out that an Orioles fan made fun of Kitspool in July
Awesome
My favorite part (because I’m a nerd) was this quote by Kitspool:
I came for the Breaking News
I stayed for the Nintendo 64 8-bit graphics pic.Someone clearly did not understand what the "64" in "N64" stood for.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Oh, BURN.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Aug 28, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
he wishes there was an edit button.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
there actually should be an edit button. then people can edit comment to make themselves look smarter, only to have mods post what they really wrote.
kinda like a system of checks and balances.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The Pirates fan was in our GDT, too
Some of his comments:
Didn’t this front office and Bochy win ya’ll a World Series last year?
Um, it’s tied at 1. Not over at all.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Well we lost, doesn’t he look like a fool?
That is cray-z.
by DrDC on Aug 28, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was yesterday, so we actually won that game
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
We don’t deserve this team. Pirates fans do.
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
Points and laughs at everyone else, but especially DrDC.
/walks away proud > > > ! !
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
We really are.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I mean if I wasn’t a Giants fan, I probably wouldn’t like any of you guys. I would go for class.
That is cray-z.
Johnny Disaster has class.
At least 5th grade, and not by social promotion.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
IRL’d.
rec’d
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
…and that was before I read that this was in regard to yesterdays game.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I know! dammit
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Just stupid crap like that. No sense of enjoying the game at all.
Not true! I absolutely love watching our record setting offense go out there every day!
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Aug 28, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Their GDT's must be boring if they only talk about the game
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SF GIants Baseball 2011 = Torture Pt. 2. Home of 6 World Series Titles
SF 49ers Football 2011-2012 = ???. Home of 5.5 Super Bowl Champs ( Aaron Rodgers should of been a Niner)
I am a fan of the Warriors and Lakers. I can become a fan of both teams. Nothing wrong with that.
So there’s somebody in the gameday thread complaining about people in gameday threads not talking about the game.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
OT
I’m I the only one pissed off by the “Moneyball” movie? When did they win a series. Bean is so overblown, imho.
/bitterness
it's not just that
it’s the 5 years without a winning record. Build for the future!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I just saw the trailer for it today, though it may have been out for some time for all I know. Actually, the trailer looks rather promising to me. Although I can see why Paul DePodesta isn’t directly represented in the Jonah Hill character. They made the movie character geeky I think for the hell of it.
by non sequitur on Aug 28, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
A movie about Brian Sabean would almost certainly be the worst thing ever.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
It would be awesome!
Movies about assholes are brilliant! (Raging Bull, Scarface, Citizen Kane, etc….)
Why not the Marlins of 97 or 03?
Tiny payroll, lots of journeymen with homegrown talent. Not given much of chance either time.
Which they used to help corner the market on the first market inefficiency that moneyball highlighted.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Give Sabes the Met payroll and . . . .
. . . oh, never mind.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I have that effing tape somewhere in my house
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
He would have
He was directing a lot of the early episodes of the Simpsons. Shouldn’t have been a big surprise.
I had that as a kid and listened to it a lot.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I enjoyed ‘Sita Sings the Blues’.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
They already did a “30 for 30” on Bartman called “Catching Hell” and it’s going to air 9/27. Originally supposed to air before our World Series it was postponed a year.
"And you fueled and energized this group, all the way through the crazy month of September. And into what was an epic month of October, and what was one glorious day of November." - Kruk
Maximizing team value
by paying careful attention to OBP and BB/K ratio (among other previously fringe statistics)? Sabermetrics. But the “genuis” the Moneyball part if you will comes in the payroll aspect. He did it on a quarter of the money. The marlins did it with even less.
No. This is a common misconception. Moneyball was about identifying market inefficiencies and exploiting them. OBP and walks just happened to be the biggest market inefficiency at the time.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
So then what adjustments have these teams made since? besides increasing payroll. I guess WAR is the new OBP these days?
they haven’t made adjustments. that’s why they’ve been left in the dust
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
well, the Marlins just built well through the draft, always have. but that’s not really a new market inefficiency.
MoneyBall was about finding valuable (hence, market-inefficient) players through the draft or from other teams in ways that had previously been overlooked.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yet, the best A’s were all home grown. Beane utilized the draft as well. the 97 Marlin’s were admittedly a bad example.
he took over in 98
They already had Tejada/Giambi/Chavez/Hernandez, Hudson was drafted in 1997.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Beane would have been well-advised to move on to the new market inefficiencies like pre-habilitation, but he didn’t.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I would argue that other teams have simply caught up. Now everybody knows about OBP and other statistical analysis. In some ways, Moneyball the book was the worst thing that happened to Beane, because everyone knew his secret.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Aug 28, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
oh yeah, they’ve caught up, hence why Billy Beane doesn’t have successful teams anymore.
when I said they haven’t made adjustments, I meant the A’s haven’t adjusted to everyone incorporating their system and moved on to new market inefficiencies instead.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, recognizing the importance of OBP was probably 10x more important than anything that we’ve seen since then (e.g. defense). So beating the system has gotten a lot harder.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Another salient point
I feel like I probably let my fanaticism spoil my opinion on the issue. The fact that I look at the A’s as the pathetic little east bay franchise since the Giant’s got the ballpark together doesn’t help this perception at all. The sad part is they probably had more wins than the Giants last decade.
the 2000-2004 Giants teams were pretty successful as well. not to mention the 2009-2011 teams.
as for total wins, I don’t know off hand.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
before Beane’s tenure.
Can’t believe he never got a ring- those 100 win A’s went to the playoffs every year for awhile.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
SSS
“My shit doesn’t work in the playoffs.”
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Aug 28, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Moneyball II: Losing the Crapshoot
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I wikipedia'd all that
Marlins were a big payroll, damn! 03 is a more apt comparison, but as someone mentioned before there were practically no free agents on that team.
Not getting that
They spent a bunch of money! Bobby Bonilla! Moises Alou! Gary Sheffield!
Bonilla is a funny name.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
a delicious dessert
with the greatest contract ever
The Dude: Oh boy. How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen Karl Hungus.
Also hauling Leyland out of retirment
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought the ’97 Marlins were more Moneyball due to the owner throwing tons of money at free agents and then deciding throwing money at free agents is too expensive and sold off the team.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 29, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
My understanding is that the first cut of the screenplay was a semi-documentary that stuck pretty closely to Lewis’ book. owlcroft (Eric Walker) says he was even interviewed for a few scenes. But then it underwent a massive rewrite, although the book was still the centerpiece of it.
by non sequitur on Aug 28, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
To include years after 03?
Hopefully it will go through today. And show that Beane’s system was integrated into standard league practice and now he’s merely an average GM.
I think it’s a fun story. Every story is mythologized to a degree. I had actually feared that the screenplay would be a more generic “little engine that could”-type interpretation of the book. But the trailer suggests — and trailers can be profoundly misleading! — that it may incorporate more of the central ideas of the book than I might have expected.
by non sequitur on Aug 28, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope so.
Next: a movie based on The Big Short, which I read this summer.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 28, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
That was a good book. It is different than the other numerous books on the Credit Crisis in that it focuses on the short sellers rather than the investment banks who were wrong about the bubble and lost billions. But there are already some good movies in this creative “space”, like Inside Job. I don’t know if a major studio would throw big bucks at another movie about the financial world.
by non sequitur on Aug 28, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
without Billy Beane, GiantPain would not exist in the form that he does. therefore, I blame Billy Beane
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
FTFY
without Billy Beane’s penis, GiantPain would not exist in the form that he does. therefore, I blame Billy Beane
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I don’t think I want to know this backstory.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you were referencing the backstory.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
nah, to me it seems like GiantPain could be Billy Beane, the way he rambles on about OBP. and he’s stubborn, like Beane.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Aug 28, 2011 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t be so mad about. It’s a comedy.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
/Jonah Hill spills Jolt cola in laptop, ruins spreadsheet.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
/Jonah Hill yells up stairs.
“Mooooooooooom, I need more Jolt Cola!”
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
This stuff writes itself!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually really want to see the movie.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Squirrel: Heath Hembree
G'nite nerbs
Hopefully I’ll get to follow a full game some time this week. Last 50 days have been hell on wheels, and even this offense would be a distraction. Please beat the Cubbies, now.
There was a Canadian ripoff of Grant two weeks ago.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Also, in May, a New England ripoff.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
He doesn’t respond to our signal anymore. I think we talk about him too much.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Just Back From the Game
what the hell happened with DeRosa at second base?
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Overslid the bag
and he while he got back safely, the ump blew the call and said he was out. It was close but he was safe.
You’re back from the game just now?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Hey, ggf.
Pretty depressing. But September still lies ahead. And after that, April.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 29, 2011 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
also this
my dog would’ve totally won that stupid contest
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Sabean and Bochy
This really is their fault. Rowand should have been DFA’d, Cabrera was a horrendous pickup, Belt should never have been sent back to Fresno, Huff should have had the shovel taken away from him, Whiteside is clearly a very bad C.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Aug 29, 2011 12:10 AM PDT reply actions
Other than that . . . .
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Aug 29, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
another report
I’m sure that I had the all-time worst martini in the rankest and most vile of establishments
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But Kristin M said it was EXCELLENT!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Just did the "Countries of the World" quiz on Sporcle
I only got 101. But I got Italy, so I guess I’m better than Howie.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 29, 2011 12:49 AM PDT reply actions
I’m pretty sure I got Italy.
If I remember, the bad one I missed was Denmark.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
My total was 76, though. So you still did better.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
/tries to resist the temptation to be a smug nerd
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
But I got 45 states the last time I tried!
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
131!
/e-peen competition
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Also, I think jponry was saying that someone (groug?) kept doing it until he got a perfect score.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I can get a perfect score pretty easily. Never really miss more than 2 or 3. For a while I was trying to perfect the Countries And Capitals quiz, but that faded. I should give it a go again.
I may be as big a geography nerd as I am a baseball nerd.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
/e-peen shrivels
That’s dedication. Seriously, how the hell did you memorize Africa? I’ve got no memory for any of the countries there.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I didn’t really memorize it, I just know what the countries are. I’ve always been fascinated and a little obsessed with maps and atlases. I have probably about 10 or 12 atlases on my bookshelf on the other end of the living room, ranging in date from the 1890s to a few years back.
With some of the South Pacific countries and the smaller Caribbean islands, I had to work a little at remembering them, but all the continents I pretty much just know.
/weirdo
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
I was trying to get all 232 MLB HoFamers for a while. I don’t think I ever got above 136.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 29, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s really not that bad. That map makes it nearly impossible to see some of the smaller countries, and unless you have a really rigid system for naming them, it’s easy to miss some of the smaller ones.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Or if you know what they are!
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
/looks at the continent of Africa
/sighs
/Eurocentric bias is showing
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
There used to be an amazing Cameroonian restaurant near the Berkeley/Oakland border. It was gone when I was back in town recently. :(
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Heh, I’m not a complete rube! But some of the smaller ones definitely screw with me.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Malawi, The Gambia, and Burundi haunt speckops’s dreams.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
He’s still furious about Eritrea splitting off from Ethiopia in 1993.
Now, if the de facto independent nation of Somaliland ever gets international recognition, shit is ON.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
UNIFIED SOMALIA FOREVER
Just say no to:
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
You’ve all named ones that I got. (Btw, is it really The Gambia? Is that where The Ohio State University is?) Outside of Sao Tome and Principe I’d never be able to place them on a map. Also, for obvious reasons, I can’t name the ones that I don’t know. Unknown unknowns and all that jazz.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
hmm
Comoros? Cape Verde? Swaziland? Lesotho? Seychelles?
And yeah, the official name of the country is The Republic of The Gambia. It’s named after the Gambia River, so basically The Republic of The Gambia River. Short form, either Gambia or The Gambia is acceptable.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
and if you're wondering why the country is named after the river
See here:
Supposedly, the country’s borders reflect how far the British could shoot their cannons in either direction from the river (it’s surrounded by Senegal, which used to be part of French West Africa).
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
So the Gambia is basically a penis?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
It has length but not girth.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
how is it possible for a team to hit this badly?
I just don’t understand. This has gone way beyond odds and probability. This has gone beyond a dearth of team speed, station to station offense, no power or on base skills, or a lack of patience. I don’t know. I’m at a loss for words. I can’t believe it. We’re now approaching the realm of Dead Ball Era. All-time worst hitting Giants teams. Injuries have crippled us, but there’s also just an amazing, record-setting streak of incompetence and futility going on here.
And to think, a strong majority of these very same players won the World fucking Series last year?
Any time you have Burrell in a fucking competition you are heavily favored.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
the Giants are working hard to solve this puzzle for us
proud son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Y_ R PSSY IS JEAL_ _S
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The Giants would like to buy a vowel!
R!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
how is it possible for a team to hit this badly?
Failing vision/slowed reflexes due to the advanced age of most of the players, combined with an idiotic organizational philosophy that views walks as a failure of a plate appearance (and a quick way to find yourself on the bench or on the way to Fresno).
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
The Giants have averaged fewer than 3 runs per game since the All-Star Break
The Giants have averaged 3.39 runs per game in 2011. The next worst team in the majors, the Mariners, have averaged 3.41; the next two worst, the Padres and the Nationals, have averaged 3.78 and 3.81.
2.90 since the All Star Break.
2.69 in August.
2.60 in their last 10 games.
2.00 in their last 5 games.
So yeah: really bad. Getting worse.
/sob
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Good lord.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
So you’re saying Beltran is the problem, right?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
The rest of the team is starving to death slowly because he takes all the postgame spread home with him after the game!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
According to this, the Giants should be averaging around 3.5 runs a game.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
You have the pithcer as a .650 OPS hitter?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I think he's just giving everyone the team average
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yeah.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Can it be September already?
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
They will look pretty sitting on the bench.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Crawford better play. Cabrera is terrible and a symbol of everything wrong with this organization (top to bottom).
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
Fontenot should probably play, since he's the best shortstop we have.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
It has happened. A bunch of times.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Like thrice?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Fontenot has started 30 games at short so far this year.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Since we got Cabrera though?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
He’s replaced Cabrera permanently? If so, color me happy.
If not, it’s not going to happen. Hence my pie-in-the-sky optimism that it will happen with Crawford.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
No, he hasn't.
But what I’m saying is, if they replace Cabrera with someone, it should be Fontenot, not Crawford.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I understand what your saying. And I’m saying if it was going to be Font, it would have happened already.
The only chance of zero-Cab being replaced is if we get somebody new and shiny. Though this team’s preference is old and dull.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
If it was going to be Crawford
He probably wouldn’t have been sent to the minors.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Wake Me Up When September Ends is a less good song than Good Riddance.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I would like to see them battle on a bridge and then both fall off and die.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
by jhiat00 on Aug 29, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Actually, I just said that as a roundabout way of hopefully getting to FJM Boulevard of Broken Dreams.
Every line of that song is essentially saying “I am alone” in a slightly different way. Except the lines that repeat, which are doing it in the same way. Which is, eventually, all of them.
Not counting the whole of the 21st Century Breakdown album, It’s probably Green Day’s worst song by a really, really long shot.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
There you go verbing a noun again. It would be a pretty funny thing to see though.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I’ll wait to do the full treatment until I can bait a new-bop Green Day fan into defending the band’s recent music.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
/agrees
//stands silently by Nivek5150, offering support
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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by can of corn on Aug 29, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
/forms the I-still-enjoy-the-songs-even-if-you-think-the-lyrics-suck Coalition
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
I’ll defend most of American Idiot, but don’t ask me to touch 21st Century Breakdown.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A
Well, and an umpire at second base
I didnt see the replay. From my seats he looked out, then the ball came loose, then he overslid, then the tag was reapplied, but it looked like DeRosa was scrambling to get back still.
And what about Cabrera in the 8th—he catches that liner and we win. Shit, even Tejada would have caught it.
This team is unremarkable, unless you want to remark about gaffs like the two above.
Oh, and Matt Downs.
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
that’s the third time so far since Cabrera was acquired that I’ve seen him miss a ball that squarely hit his glove
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it’s hard to imagine that the Giants were actually a better team with their .180 hitting shortstop
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I’m just looking forward to the day when I am no longer mad when they lose. Every day it is not surprising but yet it makes me mad.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
it took like an hour for my mood to even out after the game. I wish my self was not so emotionally invested in a bunch of overpaid humans. alas, [i have nothing]
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by son of ggf on Aug 29, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m just looking forward to the day when I am no longer mad when they lose.
This has never consistently happened for me.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
sarchasm, I know
But just to clarify: I’ve never been able to not be mad at the Giants losing. Even in years like 1996 or 2008.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
DeRosa was safe: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=18557849
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I’m really not able to tell by that replay. I mean, he’s clearly safe initially, but after sliding past the bag, I can’t tell if he touches the base before his arm lands on the glove.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Aug 29, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A:
I blame the Giants losing to Cain…2 ER in 8 IP? WTF is that?
Also, I’m still optimistic…Torres is back and hopefully can get on base.
The lineup is actually decent except for Cabera…
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Probably not breaking but
From Baggs:
When the Giants put Torres on the disabled list in Florida two weeks ago, the listed reason was a contusion on his calf. It’s true, Torres couldn’t run for two days after fouling a ball off his leg. But in no way was it a two-week injury.
Left unsaid: The Giants were even more concerned about Torres’ mental health. As you know, he’s been very public about his battle with ADHD, and how he’s overcome many of its symptoms through awareness and medication.
But from what I understand, medication isn’t a simple fix. Your body can get used to one drug, and it begins to lose efficacy. So you go through a process of trying another drug, or changing the dosage, or using one in conjuction with another. Torres didn’t have that problem last season. It’s been a big part of his struggles this season. For a long stretch this summer, he wasn’t able to sleep at night.
Torres has been forced to make constant adjustments at the plate, as all hitters must do. But that isn’t all. He’s had to make constant adjustments with his medical condition, too. That cannot be easy when you are performing in front of 40,000 people. And don’t forget, Torres is the subject of his own documentary film, in addition to the part he played in the Showtime series. That’s a lot of pressure.
One more thing: In the past, those 40,000 people never expected you to do great things. Now they do.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
And this
Belt will be a good hitter, no question. He has the talent to drive the ball to all fields. But he also had a chance to win the game in the 10th inning, and with a runner at second base, he looked at a third-strike curveball. That is something he cannot do.
If you think Bochy has not been supportive of Belt, his at-bat in the 10th inning is precisely why management has taken its time with him. They feel he is still a bit too passive at the plate, and I’m not just talking about swinging at the first pitch. In that situation, with two strikes, it’s your job as a hitter to battle up there. You spoil good pitches. You work the pitcher until he gives in. And when he makes a mistake, you pounce on it.
Lately, Belt hasn’t battled so well.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I'm relatively certain this violates fair use.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I'm a piraty rebel
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
He makes his assistant find interesting news stories on his/her day off.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
and not so interesting ones too!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Second one's OK
First one is probably too much. Collectively it’s waaaay over the line.
Nah
amount of work cited is only one test…I would prevail on the other 3 tests.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Not entirely the point.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
by can of corn on Aug 29, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, large blocks of grey text. The calbear must be back!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
yeah!!!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Instead of embracing your self-perceived “rebel” status, maybe you can figure out that a link and a well quoted sentence or two would probably be more favorably received.
We don’t really need Bagg’s entire post reproduced here. We all know how to click.
Plus, you’re not even commenting. Just pasting.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
by can of corn on Aug 29, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fine ...
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2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I’m actually kind of concerned that Torres has tried to make too many adjustments at the plate. Just yesterday, Kuip was commenting that his stance looked visibly different. Again.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Let’s stop talking about Torres and start condemning CalBear.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
OT going to Boarders cause they are shutting down and everything is 50% off
any recommendations for books to buy? I’ll pretty much read anything except romance novels
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
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Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
random non sequitur trivia
The girl who lived across the hall from me my sophomore year in college went on to become some kind of purveyor of romance novels (like this one). Even weirder, somehow she married Oracle’s Larry Ellison.
by non sequitur on Aug 29, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Still too expensive
especially children’s books…
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a Lawyer and Rich !!
Bwahahahahaha!
@legaleagle88
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
I thought Nate Schierholtz was cool before it was cool to think Nate Schierholtz was cool.
well
if you accumulate enough student debt, and inflation moves fast enough, this actually might work!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Aug 29, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
It's like they're paying you to go to school!
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Explain.
Because I have step one down.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Simple
Borrow a lot more money from the Federal Government and go back to Grad school for 2 to 3 more years.
How does it end in me being rich, as opposed to me being strangled by piles of debt?
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Think Deflation of the dollar — like the Peso. Pennies on the dollar. And you’ll be super smart at the end of it.
So if I ever leave school, it’s game over?
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Definitely.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
by can of corn on Aug 29, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
2012 is going to be an interesting year.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
You could always go on to get a PhD in creative writing!
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
I may go back for the PhD in time. I really feel the need to get to work, though. And as long as I am actually employable (and can scrounge up enough for a year or two as an adjunct), a lot of my problems will be solved.
That is, naturally, the trick.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
What are the career opportunities for, uh, whatever you do?
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Aug 29, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Teacher.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Mother, secret lover.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Aug 29, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Pubic hair specialist.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
You all need more of it.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I would go to Borders instead
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Aug 29, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Books on nude photographys are usually pretty good.
Until these books clarified things for me, I kept wondering what the big deal was. The pictures anded up looking pretty much the same as ones I took with my clothes on.
The thong is, it happened.
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Texts you don’t expect from a friend on Monday morning: “True story: Aubrey Huff almost beat me up last night in front of (sushi bar).”
What a coincidence! Rowand almost did the same thing to me but he kept swinging and missing.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I met Brian Wilson a few nights ago and told him I was a save opportunity. He almost blew me.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
rec'd for truthiness
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Credit for all versions of that joke, as always, must go to the Mayor.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
hey-ooooo!!!
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Aug 29, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
For Can of Corn: Verizon knows what it's doing!
Verizon Dodges Bullet By Skipping Samsung Galaxy S2, Gets Droid Prime Instead
Well now BGR tells us that those bigger plans was the Droid Prime. According to BGR and their sources, "Verizon doesn’t think the Samsung GALAXY S II will be competitive with the iPhone 5 when it launches." Now that added to the fact that the Samsung Galaxy S2 would be available on the other 3 carriers as well certainly makes the Galaxy S2 look like an unattractive acquisition by Verizon. However the Droid Prime on the other hand will reportedly be the first Android Ice Cream Sandwich smartphone and will be “exclusive” to Verizon Wireless. According to the source, we will be seeing it in October.
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/rumors/8179-verizon-samsung-galaxy-s2-nexus-droid-prime
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
/rethinks not getting a smartphone with next contract
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I mean
you don’t actually get an ice cream sandwich though…mmmh Android 4.1: It’s It’s
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You seem to be really into this technology/market. Care to summarize what this new DroidPrime is and why it’s so cool?
One way or another, this darkness got to give.
No real specs out on Nexus Prime yet
It sounds just like the S2 except it’s going to have Android 4.0 and no Samsung overlay on the OS.
It’s not really anything of substance since the S2 will likely get an OS upgrade anyways and the overlay issue is one of personal preference.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
What's leaked so far
It will have a large (perhaps 4.5") 1280×720 AMOLED display. (That’s significantly higher res than the iPhone 4’s “retinal display.”) Also, it is rumored to sport a dual-core 1.5 GHz (or possibly even faster) processor, and will be the first device running Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0).
Pretty similar to the S2
which depending on the variant you get will also have the AMOLED display and a 1.5 GHz processor (T-mobile’s version)…ICS is basically the only “upgrade”
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Well
If that screen resolution turns out to be true, that’s much better than the S II.
Yeah...
you’re right…I don’t know why I didn’t catch that…interesting…although there are supposed to upgrades to the US versions of the S2
There’s also a rumor that Samsung is going to release a phone (S2 plus) with a 5.3 inch screen.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Damn
The Nexus is going to be exclusive on Verizon? Hmm… do I really want to deal with switching carriers?
Maybe
except I don’t want to spend the extra $15 per person for the data plan…I don’t understand why Verizon does not have a cheap option…
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I’m just mad that I’ve been waiting a fuck-load long time for a good phone, and if this is the one I want, I have to wait two more months. And I’m not sure if it’s what I’ll want.
Still cranky.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
by can of corn on Aug 29, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
Appropriately enough…the S2 release party got delayed because of the hurricane.
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2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I’m about ready to give up Internet on my phone. If I can make calls and text, I think I’m good.
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by howtheyscored on Aug 29, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Thinking about it, too. Or at least, one of those hybrid phones, in which the internet sucks or is non-existent, but there is email and twitter and stuff, and the data plan is half the cost.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Also
I was speaking with the wife yesterday…I may wait until end of November to get my smartphone so that 1) I can get out of my contract with AT&T (more option, cheaper upgrade), 2) the phone would likely to be cheaper, and 3) Holiday season specials.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
My phone makes calls.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 29, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Bay City Ball(with Graph!....cheap laughs): On the topic of offense
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 29, 2011 10:26 AM PDT reply actions
What?
the Giants scored 5 or more runs in 25% of their games? When the heck was this?
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I’m guessing earlier in the season when they still had the magic….and Buster.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 29, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
The graph clearly says “Since 7/1/11”.
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
Ah, I see you can read. Lets talk some more.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 29, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
The Giants' scoring 1-3 runs/game half the time screws with our perception.
Because they almost never blow anyone out, we tend to remember a lot of close victories.
It’s easy to forget that the team actually scored runs in games like the 4-5 loss to ATL and the 5-7 loss to HOU.
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
25 percent of 2 months is like 12 games or something, right? Let me check because I made myself look like an idiot:
7/2 15 DET7/6 6 SD
7/14 6 SD
7/15 6 SD
7/18 5 LA
7/19 5 LA
8/3 8 AZ
8/9 6 PIT
8/14 5 FLA
8/17 7 ATL
8/20 5 HOU lost
8/21 6 SD
8/23 5 SD lost
They won all games but two.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 29, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Oops, the second game is meshed with second one.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 29, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I ment first one. Man, I’m dumb today.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 29, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Its Russian Roulette!
1 out 5 games the starter gets a run or less. If it lands on you good luck!
by haroldandsivakumar on Aug 29, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
63.4% of the time the Giants score 3 runs or less.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Okay...Polly Anna!
Giants can take 2 out 3 against Cubs…Dback can lose 2 out 3…
Giants go into the series with the Dbacks…take 2 out of 3 and is 2 games out at the end…
Still believe!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Yes
I would be happy to be knocking distance Sept 1st. Get those young guys up here, they gave us a huge push last year. DaRUUUUUUUUN Ford and Co. with the energy!
by Myemail21479 on Aug 29, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Prediction of tonights lineup
Torres CF
Keppinger 2B
Sandoval 3B
Beltran RF
DeRosa LF
Huff 1B
Fontenot SS
Stewart C
Bochy said Belt would play everyday but he says a lot of things that arent true.
I think Belt is feeling pressured by all the giraffe hype. Remember when Sabean talked about Pablo having problems with the Panda stuff? That he wasn’t prepaired for it? Baggs said that Belt is the kind of guy that easily lets outside stuff affect him. I hate this, if true. Just when he started to get it going, the pressure becomes intense.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 29, 2011 10:54 AM PDT reply actions
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/8/29/2391306/on-those-who-have-been-there-before
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I save all my boo's for Alex Smith
The Giants get nothing but cheers from me.
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