Goodbye, My Sweet Woobie
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 11, 2011 1:07 PM PDT
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PrintIf there's one thing that annoys me about life, it's all that reality. Get that stuff out of here. So when the Giants slipped back into second place last night -- a fate that's far too kind considering how poorly they've played -- I just closed my eyes and pretended that everything is going to be okay. I put some 2010 in a spoon, put a lighter under it, and ... well, I don't need to give a tutorial. But you get the idea.
Because the Giants had some August struggles last year, everything will always work out every year. Or, at least, it could. I'm as guilty of this as anyone. Last year on August 11th, the Giants were 2.5 games back. Two weeks later, they were 6.5 games back. Still tied for the Wild Card lead, but the division wasn't a realistic goal.
This will be brought up every time the Giants struggle in the summer months until 2058, when Zan Posey hits a grand slam in the last game of his career, leading the Giants back from a 12-game deficit and winning the division. Then that will be brought up through the next century. Every time the Giants look like a festering scab of an offense: 2010! Remember how they pulled it all out! 2010!
And it's obvious why it's brought up. If you gave up on the Giants last year, you were wrong. There were moments of darkness that looked permanent, as if Jose Guillen had broken the light bulb in your heart while trying to swat a mosquito. He missed. And then this, then that, that one thing, and World Champions. It happened once. Don't give up. I get that, and I do it too.
Except here's the thing: the struggles from last August weren't that bad. They were 13-15. Not good, but not abysmal. And the reason the Giants were struggling was because the starting pitching wasn't doing well. Matt Cain had a 3.00 ERA in August, mostly because he stopped walking hitters, but Madison Bumgarner was horrible. Tim Lincecum's struggles are well known, and even Barry Zito didn't do well, with a 7.76 ERA in August. The pitching stopped being uniformly great, which it was for the better part of two years.
But I trusted the pitchers. I was starting to get a little nervous about Lincecum, but I wasn't panicking. Same thing with Bumgarner. The Giants had a 4.55 ERA as a team in August, 2010, but they never stopped striking hitters out. They allowed a few more home runs, but nothing egregious. They were basically the same staff, just going through a spell of bad luck. The pitchers were still good.
Right now, the Giants are struggling because of the hitting. They traded for Carlos Febles or something, and he's hurt, which is really screwing things up. And without him, it's the 2009 Pablo or Bust Spectacular. nothin nothin Pablo, save us! nothin nothin nothin nothin nothin nothin nothin nothin Pablo, save us! nothin nothin nothin.
I love Torres, but it's entirely probable that his 2010 was a fluke. Love Ross, but he's the streakiest mofo this side of Randy Winn. Aubrey Huff alternates bad and good years like few others. Cabrera is hot flotsam, just like anyone the Giants could put at short. Keppinger is now hooked on the endorphins created by a strikeout, and Aaron Rowand. And Aaron Rowand. I don't trust this offense to get better. I don't trust that Brandon Belt will get more than 20 at-bats for the rest of the season, and I don't trust that Huff will stay hot. All of these guys are goofs.
Doesn't mean I'm giving up. Dude, half-game back. Lincecum. Cain. Bumgarner. Vogelsong. Romo. Wilson. Lopez. It's a great collection of arms. They'll recover from their own mini-slide and keep the Giants in most of their games. But I am giving up on mainlining August, 2010 as a source of encouragement. Different team, different struggles.
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It is the next Sakura Taisen game.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen that word outside TV Tropes.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
you don’t approve of TVTropes? Monster.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
This thread on Something Awful is fun for multiple reasons. Its purpose is to highlight the creepy shit that goes down on TV Tropes, and it does that well. But the people there also totally lack self-awareness, since they’re posting on Something Awful and making fun of the creepiness of another site.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
ah
yeah, I stay pretty much on their main pages, individual show/game/movie pages and the IJBM pages.
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
There's some fun stuff
There are also a lot of weird people. And when I followed the agony booth, for some reason a contingent came over from TV Tropes to just bomb the forums. It was not pleasant.
yeah
I think the trope pages and show pages are awesome. However, it definitely looks like I made the right decision in ignoring the forums and the troper tales pages
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
TV Tropes would be good if they didn’t have 95% of their entries about anime, while missing obvious examples from South Park.
Irrational Conor Gillaspie fanboy.
tsundere!
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Aug 11, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
First time I heard it
was in an episode of CSI.
NorCal passion trapped in SoCal pain...
I wanna rage.
Carlos Febles
would that be Fruity or Cocoa Febles
"Tonight they get a ring. For the rest of their lives, if somebody asks them about that ring, they will tell them the story of 2010."-Kruk
Was Cocoa Febles
Now it’s Fruity Febles.
You know, San Francisco.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
Panic in the streets of London
"This is almost certainly a terrible idea. But I won't know for certain until I've actually done it." — Jez from Peep Show
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Aug 11, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions
/appears on eBay in ‘slightly used’ condition
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The orange thong he’s wearing is a nice touch. Maybe he actually a big Bay Area Huff fan on vacation in London.
Over
by cybermaldonado on Aug 11, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Sabez told Brandon they would plug the whole in his swing in Fresno.
This was not what he expected.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
He looks like he sees a giant asteroid about to crash into London.
Over
by cybermaldonado on Aug 11, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
This is so random, that I love it. Thats why I come on this site. Better than TV.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 11, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The “surprise buttsects” look on the giraffes face makes this picture awesome.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wow.
I think between Lies and Perfidy’s post and yours I’ve completely lost it. Tears man.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
EVERYONE STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING
I can’t find the Morning Edition promo I produced. Look around, see if I left it anywhere here.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
UPDATE
A co-worker overwrote the promo with a soundbite. It’s gone forever. Bah.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Also, what I had was a Noah and the Whale album, not your promo. My bad.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Use Time Machine
Go back in time. Restore file.
Go farther back in time. Kill co-worker’s mom.
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
/grabs crotch
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
All of these guys are goofs.
This could have been the only sentence in that entire article.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 12 recs
If it’s going to be green, at least let me make it green.
by Grant Brisbee on Aug 11, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I really hope the team doesn’t give up on Torres, either now or in the offseason. I’m finally accepting that he’s having a bad year, but I can’t accept last year as a total fluke.
by Duelling Brandos on Aug 11, 2011 1:15 PM PDT reply actions
He's too good a defender not to be a useful piece
I think he stays untl Brown is ready, at the least. I also think he can turn it around.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 11, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
But I am giving up on mainlining August, 2010 as a source of encouragement
Skin popping is still an option.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Mike Murphy thinks he's found the answer:
“I’m going to need the World Series DVDs, a dozen rolls of tin-foil, a big box of straws, and a jumbo pack of lighters. STAT.”
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 11, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate has been fairly decent.
But, uh, yeah.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
Nate HAD been fairly decent. He’s cooled a bit (as usual).
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
This is like calbearwhatsisface’s Huff line, but in reverse.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh. Not exactly, but I can see your point.
He runs hot/cold, and usually regresses to the mean. He’s aight, but he’s really quite average.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Yep. With very good D.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. But I would really really really like to see some more O (TWSS!). All that D ain’t winning games these days.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Yes, the O has been lacking, but it’s been lacking from others far worse than Nate. I have an irrational affection for him I suppose. I find it difficult to hear people bag o him when he’s finally living up to my modest expectations.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really bagging on him. I just want a real outfielder that can consistently hit. I’ve never been that excited about him.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Hey
Who says I have a face?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Conceded
I have no direct knowledge of your face.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Francis Joseph Cassavant, is that you?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 11, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Beltran ruined the chemistry!
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it. November 1, 2010 World Champions.
Proud Adoptive Parent of one of the best Five Tool Players, The Machine.
No giants game today, so my at bat app apparently decided I want to keep track of the rays royals game. Obviously.
The first six innings are overrated.
by apistat on Aug 11, 2011 1:21 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Lined up perfect for me
No game, but a debate! Wheee!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
We are no longer drinking when they say “Bin Laden” this year. (Because we like getting drunk)
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 11, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
American politics is stupid, and there are no interesting foreign elections coming up; in fact, there are no foreign elections of any kind for the next ten days, until the second round of the Cape Verdean presidential elections on the 21st.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Basically what I’m saying is that this sucks.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Got up on the wrong side of life this mornin
Nothing today is gonna go my way
Horoscope told me lies this morning
I don’t think anything is gonna be okay
Today
Everything sucks today
Everything sucks today
Everything sucks today
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
I’m going to try to catch the Iowa debate tonight. Don Gonyea’s offering a preview on ATC at 4:50, if you want to hear it.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
That’s how you spell his name? I always assumed it was Gagne.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Who the hell are the Royals? Do they have fans?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Rob Neyer I think!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 11, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Joe Posnanski
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
No fans, just bloggers
If the Giants had done well this season, rumors abound that Grant would’ve jumped ship for another team that would play aging veterans en route to another losing season (e.g., the Royals, though some have rumored the Pirates as well). Something about “going where the good material is.” We can all thank Bochy for doing his part to keep Grant following the Giants.
I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
The difference between 2010 & 2011
is expectations. Last year, I hung on every pitch because the only goal was getting to the playoffs and while it seemed remote, they were giving it their all and it was fun to watch. This year started with lots of promise, but the team got hit by lightning on May 25, limped along on luck for a while, and has steadily deteriorated into “gumby shoulders” and futility. It’s no fun watching a team that has lost belief in itself.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
In yiddish, there’s a great word- “nachas.” Meaning “blessings,pride.” The problem with this season is that there really hasn’t been any. We were all looking forward to a victory lap or seeing the same team that appeared in October play through 2011. None of that happened
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
They just seem tired. They look like they feel, the same way I feel after the stoopit Sharks get knocked out of the playoffs every year: Wait…. you mean we have to go through another whole, entire season to just even get back to the playoffs???"
Agreed. There’s a chance they’re just burnt out and tired from everything. Playing all those 1 run games has to be exhausting and if you add a playoff chase, a playoff run, and having to deal with two major injuries on the team, you can see them going close to running on empty
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If only they had a young, promising prospect in their minor league system who brought youthful energy and a mature plate approach to pull the entire team out of its funk.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Here
http://knbr.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=39Paig%2fEIWU%3d&tabid=584
start at 10:07
Bochy: “He was gonna kind of do what he’s been doing”
“It’s not like he was tearing it up”
Memo to Bruch Bochy: He has had 78 At Bats.
Chemistry?
Ok, all you stat heads, just look away for a few minutes.
For everyone else, here’s a wild hypothesis to throw out: this team seemed to have some pretty good chemistry going for a while, but there have been some pretty major changes recently and I gotta wonder if they have flattened the clubhouse vibe.
First you’ve got three new guys who are all supposed to be offensive upgrades (Beltran, Keppinger and yes, even Cabrera, when compared to Crawford). Those guys are all feeling a lot of pressure to be “the guy” on a team that they don’t even know, and their collective presence reminds everyone else of how sucky they have been. That can’t be good for team chemistry.
Second, I think having some young guys up, trying to make a go of it (Belt, Crawford, even Hector Sanchez for his brief visit) makes it more fun for everyone. Kind of like having a kid brother around. You can give them a bit of friendly razzing, but also get excited for them when they do great things. At the moment, they’re all gone. Stewie’s HR was the closest thing they’ve had to celebrate from an unsung guy, but it’s not quite the same as having a couple of rooks around. Maybe September call-ups will help in that regard.
Finally, PtB is off getting “second opinions” or whatever. That’s gotta change the vibe some as well.
Does it seem plausible? Does it matter? Discuss.
Giants baseball: We'll take it.
I'll vote for it not being plausible
Old and gritty factor in too heavily. The rookies will spot PH and play the rubber match day game — that is it.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Aug 11, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to need some Pyrex and a Bunsen burner.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
All of those dynamics may well be going on. Yet correlation does not equal causation.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Do we have to do this through metaphor?
Because I will. I WILL. I SWEAR TO GOD, I WILL DO IT. DO NOT MAKE ME BUST OUT A FUCKING METAPHOR.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
DON'T HURT 'EM HAMMER
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I looked away when you told me to.
But I’m pretty sure it was all unconfirmable BS after that anyway.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yup
Unconfirmable. That’s the key word. Because if you can’t prove it, it cannot possibly be true.
Giants baseball: We'll take it.
For all intents and purposes, yes.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
The real reason the Giants are losing
Is that we’re all dead and burning in eternity. This is our punishment for being all Californiany and Giantsy and liberal-y and cray-z.
That is cray-z.
That is cray-z.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Since I know you care but have probably forgotten
The original thing that was cray-z was Graham’s being in high school. Also your signature sucked back then.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Drunk GiantPain was one of the best nights on this blog this year.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
You guys all need to go and rec the post where he says “f l u k e” so that it’s retroactively green.
I also love how he’s almost incoherent, but then owlcroft posts about the lineup and he turns around and gives a cogent answer.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
And it is green!
I think I had an AP test the next morning. I also see some Community discussion there. That was a good thread.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
LOL @ all the nerds in that post
Also makes me want to find my one drunk night, which I don’t think I ever re-read.
That is cray-z.
That’s because it wasn’t cray-z.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Not the right game
But apparently I was close. But for Giants-related stuff, this was a great PGT:
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/9/16/1694026/post-game-thread-giants-take
That is cray-z.
Oh, Jonathan.
I think that’s the game where garbanzo24 and I conspired to turn all the comments in the GDT green.
What’s with the sidebar ads?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
There was one thread where every post was green.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I love the derisive comments on this Gaslamp Ball thread about it
http://www.gaslampball.com/2010/9/17/1694543/around-the-mission-9-17-padres
Also, holy shit, Gaslamp Ball is basically dead.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I found it
Yeah, this is definitely my first time reading that. And wow it’s kinda bad.
That is cray-z.
Just don’t be this kind of drunk: Link (right click to open in new window)
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
This guy is real scumbag
According to other news reports, the recipient was an 11 year old girl.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
My nightmare
Sneaking into the playoffs and getting swept by the Phillies in the NLDS
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I'll be happy to get the chance
Win the division you’ve had a good year. win it under the circumstances of this years team and in many ways you’ve had a remarkable year. Just get there. Then take your chances.
Man
Now on KNBR stupid callers
Now on NPR The controversy over Germans kissing in the workplace.
Now on the radio… the sounds of silence.
Where’s the link to that collection of playoff wins?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Cool.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
What does one do with a .rar file?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Listening to Game 6
It’s so weird to hear the national promos. Pitcher Comparison sponsored by AutoTrader.com?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Listening? From ESPN Radio?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 11, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
See above for the link.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Shit! I even have some of those links but assumed they were KNBR. I’ve been searching and searching for Jon’s call of everything.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 11, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The KNBR set included ESPN Radio’s broadcasts?
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 11, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed out on that. Was the set any good?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
I liked it, they did a pretty good job picking out the highlights from the entire season. The Brian Wilson vs Matsui 15 pitch at bat sequence was memorable.
Oh, no, those are KNBR, but Jon is there for Game 6.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Ah, okay. I heard Jon’s call of like, the Renteria HR and the last strike maybe once back in November but I haven’t been able to find them since.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 11, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem with “Game 6” is that up until last October it was associated with a horrible tragedy. I still have a hard time thinking anything good about “Game 6”.
Every game has something positive associated with it now!
Except Game 7. Fuck that shit.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Game 7 was pretty much over before it even started. The proverbial “Dead Man Walking Game”
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It really was.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 11, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t even watch it.
Checked the score online every once in awhile …but that was it. I couldn’t handle the stress!!!!!
I went to Yerba Buena Garden for both. SOMA rang out with very bad words all night long.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Aug 11, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s why the Reuter/Hernandez debate was sort of silly. That team was flat and lifeless the moment they stepped on the field and I don’t think it would really would have made a difference either way. Don’t know how many teams recover from something like that. Hell, the ‘88 A’s never recovered from Gimpy McGibson’s home run in Game 1
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I always gave that team tremendous credit for rallying in Game 4 as I thought Game 3 was the killer (it still kills me). Hell, I didn’t even watch Game 4 until the last inning and we all know how well that went.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
But this Game 6
was not followed by a tragic Game 7.
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
Do they make a Pandora for Giants games?
I would click on Pablo homers, Timmy K’s, Belt BB’s…. I could listen to those all day.
…I make the point that the Giants clearly have missed Posey’s bat more than his leadership or defense. Posey certainly brings a lot behind the plate, but the Giants are averaging almost a full run per game less than last year’s league-average offense. It’s pretty obvious the effect has been greater on the lineup than on the handling of the pitching staff.
So, uh, did anyone really /Bengie’d expect otherwise?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Losing Posey caused a great cascade of events that helped bring this team to where it was. The the loss of WAR and the possible effect on the lineup are obvious (would Huff not as suck as much if the lineup didn’t rest on his shoulders as much?) but if Posey’s around the offense is better so maybe Beltran isn’t needed or maybe somebody who wouldn’t cost the team as much? Maybe they could stick with Crawford since his bat wouldn’t be needed? And no Whiteside passed balls which I know cost the Giants at least one game. Needless to say, a lot of things would be different right now.
Same thing with Freddy— the team not only lost one of it’s best hitters but you can almost draw a direct line from his injury to Cabrera and Keppinger.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I really hope Susac and Oropesa sign.
If they don’t, I’d start liking this last draft a lot less.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m a lot more optimistic about Oropesa than Susac.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
But unfortunately
I like Susac a lot more than Oropesa.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yep, same here
Is there an update on Osich?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
We get comp pick for Susac if he doesn't sign next year right?
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We wouldn’t get a prospect close to Susac.
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No money to spare.
need it for Rowand and Zito’s salary next year and the $2 million to compensate Beltran for his cortisone injection. Man, are healthcare costs skyrocketing in the US or what?
Savoring disappointment since 1993.
Any chance we see this lineup in a few weeks?
CF: Torres/Nate the great
LF: Belt
3B: Pablo
RF: Beltran
2B: Keppy
1B: Huff
C: Max Ramierez/Stewart
SS: Crawford
Other than 2B, we would have solid defense
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
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Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
No
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh
Bochy doesn’t seem to care much for it, so thats a firm no.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 11, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I hated him and then I liked him and then I respected him and now I am thinking he is the moron he has probably always been
I’ve only liked him one time and that was when he said, “You can take your time, you can hang with me for awhile. If you need a beer, grab a beer.”
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
by esseffgeez on Aug 11, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I liked the Donny Two Times incident.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
I've always thought Bochy was a nice guy
But I also think he is as dumb as a doorknob.
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And happy.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Right ...
Because dumb guys win championships.
Somehow I think if Posey and Freddie didn’t get hurt and maybe two out of the three of Torres, Huff and Ross lived up to expectations Bochy would be a HELL of a lot smarter. Not to mention about 8 games up in the division.
Nothing makes any coach of any team at any level smarter than TALENT.
I can't believe it.
I make a few minutes on an off day to stop by, hoping for at least a little sanity after these second-half disasters of managing, field level and front office, should have made the cold, hard truth about Bochy and Sabean crystal clear to even the most diehard Bochean fanboy, and I find crap like that. Bochy? Each and every day there are at least three players on the field (and by no means always the same three) than whom manifestly better men are sitting on the bench. Sabean? Cabrera and Keppinger are subtraction by addition.
What’s the use? I’m going away again, for my sanity’s sake. Nice to see the rest of you, though. Brave heart and all.
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Wait
You think Bill Hall is a better option than Jeff Keppinger? Keppinger has a higher career OPS+ and has hit much better the last three years. I’ll admit he is not a huge upgrade, but we only lost Sosa and Stoffel to get him.
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What I think . . .
. . . is that the best middle infield they could put out right now is Fontenot at short and, until and unless he plays his way out of the job, De Rosa at second.
Let’s look. The career-to-date (including 2011) TOPs of the middle infielders:
(Tejada: 856)
De Rosa: 786
(FSanchez: 751)
Fontenot: 731
Keppinger: 726
Hall: 715
Cabrera: 666
We can discount the 36-year-old Tejada’s by a good bit, though as recently as 2009 he was an 834. De Rosa might need some discount, too, but he also as recently as 2009 in Cleveland was an 881; his career numbers would be higher but for the time he tried to play while injured.
So what does a rational person make out of that mess?
1. Cabrera is very obviously the weakest by quite a margin. Adding him—and, worse yet, giving him substantial playing time—is a fine indicator of the sand-filled saddlebags that Sabean and Bochy represent in this horse race.
2. Of the credible shortstop candidates, Fontenot is the best option. (His TOP was equal to Freddy’s 751 till this season, when he has been (like Pat Burrell) jerked around and given no chance whatever to produce at the level he is capable of.
3. At second base, De Rosa is the obvious choice unless he has another breakdown or stinks the joint up; actually, one should say “stinks the joint up even worse than the guys playing there so far” (Keppinger has been a 549 for the Giants).
4. With Fontenot and De Rosa accounted for, the best remaining player who can also credibly handle short—and thus be the relief man—is Hall. Note that Hall’s career TOP is distinctly better than, for comparison, Juan Uribe’s 678 or Orlando Cabrera’s 666.
So: De Rosa, Fontenot, Hall backing up. Who is and was totally needless? The two guys Sabean went out and got, to the tooting of horns and farting of trumpets. What a surprise. And with all five available, who does Bruce Bochy regularly play? Yes indeedy, folks, two of the three weakest. Hall is not the answer to a maiden’s prayer, and his career has been a curious mix of good and bad years, but he is a tolerable glove all round the infield, and compared to Cabrera’s bat, or Keppinger’s glove, he is far better.
(Notice also that Keppinger seems to be to second base about what Miguel Tejada is to shortstop.)
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I don’t think De Rosa is healthy, so I don’t even want to include him in the discussion. He hit like shit in his rehab stint and he still says he is sore. Plus his wrist will no doubt explode within the next few weeks. His career numbers are also meaningless when he hasn’t been healthy for two years and is 36.
I agree that Fontenot should play at shortstop, but Keppinger is our best option at second.
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I thought he was dumb last year too
Winning a championship can happen for a number of reasons, including having a good manager. But that is by no means a requirement. In fact, you can win a championship in spite of a bad manager, which is exactly what the Giants did.
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That picture right there is a season summary .......
so far.
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Put Nate in full time
and that’s our best offensive lineup possible with all the injuries.
by Anonymous1337 on Aug 11, 2011 1:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
So is Beltran rofl
talking about season ending injuries
by Anonymous1337 on Aug 11, 2011 1:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Isn’t Chone Figgins on the DL for a hip flexor injury?
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Sounds like..
Zito placed Zito on the DL with a hurt foot.
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LOL JAYS FANS!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 12 recs
I love this.
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Wait
Are the fans on the right going to steal the signs from the fans on the left?
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
The fans on the left brought that sign to the stadium only to have it stolen.
It was all very meta.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
The best part of this photo
is the dude in the upper-right corner who’s holding up four fingers for the walk sign. LOL.
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I don’t get it.
Number one fan of Justin Bieber being the number one fan of the Dodgers, and not the [2010 World Series Champion] Giants.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Aug 12, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
OT: space nerbs
following SETI on twitter was has yielded lotsa cool stuff lately
http://www.astronomy.com/en/News-Observing/News/2011/08/Capturing%20a%20spiral%20in%20Leo.aspx
and here I thought it’d be all little green men and stuff..
Tiger Woods in a major slump
Time for a slumpbuster, yeah?
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Maybe Beltran can be his caddy.
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DeRosa? Zeets?
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No good.
He’ll take all of Tiger’s women. Tiger probably wants a sure thing… so probably no Zeets too…
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Miami is a pretty good place to hunt for slumpbusters
Maybe things ARE turning around for the Giants
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
Hopefully Pat’s traveling with the team to help everyone out
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he was in N Carolina getting a second opinion.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
Welcome to the Yiyants, Carlos!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
but convienantly located near both Florida and Atlanta. Thus explaining why he’s not getting a second opinion in Minn. or Oregon.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL tied for 138th after 1 round
But Ryo Ishikawa must have dropped acid before going out. He shot an 85. 85!
For all the talk about his mental state
I think the "problem’ is his knees.
LOL WOW
Chad Ochocinco, Terrell Owens, even Maurice Jones-Drew, move over. The biggest Twitter trash-talker might be New York Giants vice president of communications Pat Hanlon.
Hanlon was at it again Wednesday, calling out fans for questioning the Giants’ offseason moves.
On the same night that wide receiver Steve Smith signed with the Eagles, an NFC East rival, a fan tweeted: “Can you say definitively the Giants are better than last year?”
Hanlon’s reply: “Can you say we’re worse, knucklehead?”
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Another fan tweeted: “All teams need to rebuild at one point, I’m not going to panic until the season begins.” To which Hanlon says: “Re-build my ass! I got your re-build.”
To this tweet from a fan: “Giants off-season can be summed up w/ one word: Debacle,” Hanlon responds: “Thanks Lombardi. Cause I know you know.”
Another fan said the Giants are worse on paper than they were last year.
“We don’t play on paper. You know what you can do w/ that paper?” Hanlon responded.
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
All Asians post the same things, anyway.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Are you saying...
all Asians’ posts are long?
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You should see my beautiful Japanese (now American) wife’s emails when I’m working abroad… longer than War and Peace by Tolstoy…
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I would like to see your beautiful Japanese-American wife.
by Anonymous1337 on Aug 11, 2011 2:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
pics or it didn't happen
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
This was especially hilarious to me because I was thinking about writing a fanpost
on how to communicate with the everyday fan without intimidating them with numbers. And then I read that and decided what’s the point.
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MORE LIKE SSORY DOC MIRITE!!!
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broke Nate
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by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 11, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
______
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Fuck a giant fish
/like a boss
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If either Beltran or Nate hits the DL
I’m going to make a BOLD PREDICTION. I’m going to bet on an Aaron Rowand – Alfonso Soriano swap. With some parts thrown in to get Chicago to eat a little bit of his salary.
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
That's actually one of the underlying premise of this thought.
Rowand has a limited no trade clause in his contract. I bet he’ll waive it for Chicago.
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At least they could help him hit, he would know what was coming.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I DONT WANT SORIANO
You just trade one problem for another. Personally I wish they’d just release Rowand and Zito and eat the contracts. Both are a drag on this team. (Primarily with Rowand because as long as he is on the roster Bochy will feel compelled to play hm. Zito just simply is bad at this point of his career. And he ain’t gonna get any better)
But this will never happen. So we have Rowand AGAIN next year to kick around. And Zito for two more. Oh boy!
I wonder if the Huff, Zito, Rownads, Tejada, Derosa dead weight is the worst value ever
Team salary rank, Name, Salary, WAR, Dollars Value
1. Barry Zito________18.5____(-0.1)____$(-0.4)
3. Aaron Rownads___13.6____1_______$4.7
4. Audrey Huff_______10.0___(-0.6)____$(-2.9)
6. Miguel Tejada______6.5___(-0.1)____$(-0.4)
9. Mark Derosa_______6.0___(-0.5)____$(-2.3)
______TOTAL______54.6____(-0.3)_$(-0.5)
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
Very wrong to add Huff to this list
Say what you want, but the guy was CRUCIAL in winning a WS. Thus it was justified to bring him back. The others have been dead weight their entire Giant careers.
Huff was a good guy to take a flyer on last year.
Didn’t mean Sabes had to sign him for $11 million this year and next.
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There are a lot of people that would argue
if they had the choice between a commitment to Belt at 1B, like what ATL did with Freeman, or a two year 22 million dollar for Huff, they’d choose Belt. I considered it before Huff was signed, and when he eventually was signed and we learned what teh cost was, I was 50/50 on it. I would have been just as pleased with Belt for 400K. And it’s not just about his inclusion, it’s also about the cost. He had a great year last year but there was enough evidence out there that suggested last year was not sustainable or even close to it.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
This was what balanced out the regression expectation for me.
I gave in to the chemistry trap.
But seriously are there any other GM’s that could withstand that kind of value vacuum? or have there been?
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
yup but the flipside is that there would have been a major shitstorm if they had not brought him back.
That would have all gone away
perhaps, if the team was commited to Belt.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
And he had done well. If they had let Huff go and Belt was a bust, there would be no end of shitstorm.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
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Now this.
This is true.
However if Huff flamed out in Pittsburgh, San Diego, Houston or whoever would have tried to sign him, that might have lessened the tempest.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
Be real folks
they had to sign Huff. He deserve to be rewarded. What would it have said about the organization had they said “screw you”. And how would that bode for signing others.
I blame Sabean for Tejada (and paying him much more than they would have had to pay for Renteria) , not pulling the trigger on the Casilla for Torrealba deal and I didn’t like the Cabrera deal from the outset.
But no way in hell do I blame him for resigning Huff.
I’m perfectly happy to pay him now for last year. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to see Belt play.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
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I also don’t think last year was worth $22 million.
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Well…what if the deal was 3 years $25 million starting from last year?
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Nope.
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Okay then...
what if threw in another set of steak knives for free!
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The 2010 Aubrey Huff counterfactuals
are lacking “what was the alternative” components. Last year, I’m not sure what the alternative would have been.
Savoring disappointment since 1993.
$11 million a year is about 2.5 WAR…that’s basically starter stats.
Giants also paid more per year to get that club option 3rd year.
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Unfortunately he's getting that many AB's
but producing at a negative rate.
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I know
but it was pretty reasonable for the Giants to resign him.
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It would have been more reasonable
if it had been another one year contract for $6 million, double the money he was paid in 2010. I don’t know how the Giants settled on $22 million over two years. Not sure who else would have offered him terms like that. It strikes me as a bit batty to give that to an aging first baseman projected to be about a league average, maybe even slightly worse, coming into 2011.
But I don’t think the Huff contract is the most egregious sin on the roster. It’s a slight over pay that really stings because of the sad reality that he’s below replacement level this year.
Savoring disappointment since 1993.
Huff got a similar offer from another team
and asked Giants to match.
Huff is 34 this year…a two year contract with a club option third was pretty reasonable.
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Also
his slump was a little surprise.
His OPS is .795 in the last 28 days…I think this is actually where his talent level is at.
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didn't realize he had another offer.
I concede your point that his actual performance this year is a surprise. .795 OPS is about where his talent level is.
I’m really not too broken up about the Huff contract (hence my reserved language: a bit batty, like a beloved Aunt, not raving mad). It’s only two years. It’s more money than I would have offered, but so be it. I just feel sad for him and for the Giants that things have gone so poorly this year.
Savoring disappointment since 1993.
If that's the case,
then I’ll have to concede the money thing and it would become a question of yes or no. At the time I was 50/50. I came to grips with it and didn’t regret it much until it became painfully obvious that he wasn’t going to be the answer and that he was blocking a better player. So discarding hindsight, I probaly would have done the deal and not slept for a few days after.
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IF he could only play above average D at SS
He would have possitive value.
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He already had it tatooed as a tramp stamp.
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It's the White Sox, hence, south side he is so enamored with
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If Beltran hits the DL
Oh man, I don’t even know what I’d do! Maybe eat this Kit Kat Bar.
Why is this contingent on a DL stint?
Wouldn’t that make it less likely? and isn’t Soriano just as bad a Rowand, if not worse?
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
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.288 on-base (.100 Giants corrected)
He’d fit right at home
I like the giants corrected
Beltran is a great case in point. A guy known to draw some walks etc – he has ONE while with the Giants. I’m wondering if its something in the water.
Cubs win
I have tix for them Aug 29th; my sis is coming down from Seattle for that game, probably her first Giants game in 30 years. Giants have 18 days to turn it around, as the Cubs are hot (of course, that could change!)
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Simple moves to make right now
1. DFA De Rosa bring up Belt and stick him in left field for the rest of the season. No matter what.
Odds of happening: 1 %
2. Move either Nate or Beltran to Center. The other plays right. Keep that as your outfield. Course those guys have to be healthy first.
Odds of happening: 5%
3. Stewart gets 5 out of 7 games behind the plate. He’s a significantly better reciever and thrower. Whiteside has been awful behind the plate.
Odds of happening: None.
4. Platoon Cabrera and Fontenot. Cabrera looks aok versus lefties and downright awful against righties.
Odds of happening: 5%
Sigh.
5. DL Sanchez (he’s not right folks) and call up Surkamp. Put him in the 5th slot. he can’t do any worse.
by lexluth7 on Aug 11, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
None
Multiply the probabilities of all five.
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was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but it was when the Japanese invaded Poland, and then split it with the Italians.
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AND IT AIN'T OVER NOW ......
CUZ WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH ………………………………………………………………… THE TOUGH GET GOING!!!!! WHO’S WITH ME??? LET’S GO!!! C’MON!!!
……
What the fuck happened to the Delta Giants I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you’re gonna let it be the worst. “Ooh, we’re afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble.” Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. Wormer, Cousins, he’s a dead man! MarmalardNolasco, dead!
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Victorinoooooooooooooooooooooooo..........
Dead! Stoner’s right. A little psychotic but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we do it the conventional way, playing rookies and promising younger players, but that would take years and costs thousands of Rowands.
LEEEEET'S DOOOO IIIIITTTTTT!
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
that was all pretty spectacular. I wish I could rec everyone involved
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Mind the Gap
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
LOL Neal
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8 hour bus rides are usually awful bus This Bus were on is clutch if John Maddens bus is better than this one I would bus everywhere too
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 11, 2011 2:38 PM PDT reply actions
WAIT
Is that a Mr Mom reference? Michael Keaton FTW!
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Cabrera is at least providing many Photoshopable poses
by Natto on Aug 11, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
I like this.
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NEEDZ MOAR MOJITOS
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
Calvin: I wonder where we go when we die.
Hobbes: Pittsburgh?
Calvin: You mean if we’re good or if we’re bad?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
damn it flannery you fucker don’t send torres
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
speaking of NLCS Game 6, the midnight replay of that game didn’t stream the complete postgame celebration and wrap. i guess KNBR was short on time or something…
Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington. Will your team regret passing up on my boy 50 times?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 11, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants need to buy a huge tank of bacta.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 3:00 PM PDT reply actions
Sabes will only spend enough for some kolto.
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Giants 2012 Salary Situation, some quick math
All known dollar figures taken from Cot’s Baseball Contract Website
The Giants have 6 players locked up for next year for a whopping total of 73M : Cain, Zito, Rowand, Huff, Wilson, Freddy
I estimated the reliever’s arbitration numbers (Romo, Casilla, Ramirez) on the low side to balance out some of my other assumptions (Vogelsong, Sandoval, torres). It’s all within the noise I think.
I’m pretty confident that Lincecum will get at least 13M.
Behold : San Francisco Giants 2011 Salary Chart. If you assume all empty sots are comprised of minimum salary , we are looking at 110M opening day payroll JUST for the 25 Man Roster.
Just for shits and giggles, let’s say Surkkkkkkkkamp takes the 5th SP slot and drop Zito to one of the 2 remaining RP slots. I don’t believe either Lopez or Affeldt is coming back. That makes Dan Runzler the most logical other RP slot for the 2nd left hander. I think the last RP slot will be Heath Hembree. Again, assuming no free agent spending here.
I’m going to just pencil in Belt for starting LF. This leaves a gap of SS, backup OF, backup IN.
My own personal conclusions :
1. There is no way they bring Jonathan Sanchez back at 6M+.
2. To sign any of the major free agent, the payroll will go near 130M.
3. Brian Wilson is at 8.5M next year. With a 4th arb year in 2013. Ugh.
4. FUCK YOU BARRY ZITO.
This has been your daily dose of reality for the OMG THROW 120M @ JOSE REYES THIS OFFSEASON BECAUSE ROSS AND DEROSA AND AFFELDT ARE OFF THE BOOK LETS USE THAT 16M DOLLARS.
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So you are saying they will not try to sign Beltran?
Seriously- thanks though. I have been saying for days that they have ~$46MM tied up in Huff, Zito and Rowand which makes the rest of the math kind of ugly before you start.
I think he'll get a better offer
Maybe not. He’s making 2.375 M.
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I think it would be a huge mistake to get rid of Lopez. The Lopez/Romo/Wilson combo is probably the best late inning relief tandem in baseball right now.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Lincecum is making 13 M this year.
He’ll get 16-18 next year.
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Oh shit he's at 14M this year. I misread that
So assuming he gets to 17-18 next year, We’re looking at 115M Opening day payroll without any free agent additions.
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Thought his contract was for 8 in 2010 and 13 in 2011.
Misremembering.
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with 2M signing bonus equally spread , so 9/14
I also forgot to add the 500K buyout for affeldt. But what the heck.
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Looks like Bochy's hand will be forced with Belt in LF next year.
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When Sabean negotiates an acquisition,e specially of a FA,
it usually ends up awful.
Tangentially, the Giants are blowing 54 million in salary on what has added up to -0.3 WAR so far this year
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There is an easier way to do this
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dDVpNjBqcnc5cS1Udmk4T3l5VXpUTXc&output=html
73 million for signed players with Nighttrain, Timmy (Arb 3), Torres (Arb 2), RamRam (Arb 3), Casilla (Arb 3) and Dirty (Arb 3) to sign.
Pablo and Nate are Arb 1
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Posted this in the other thread earlier:
It’s not looking too pretty for next year.
"With a guy like that, you have six beers, pass out, come to the park and hit."
"Arb estimates"
Are those players that they have to offer arb to or in the alternative simply release them??
I don't think Nate is getting
$1.5 million as an arb 1. Also, Giants will likely keep one of the hobbits.
Affeldt is definitely not coming back. That money will likely be enough to get an decent SS starter.
Beltran would just be extra money.
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Also
I doubt the Giants will pay $2 million to both RamRam and Casilla.
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My arbitration estimates are obviously extremely rough as they can be all over the board. Even if you take away $15M in salary from not exercising Affeldt’s option or variances in arbitration figures based on your own opinions, you’re still looking at a starting payroll of over $110M dollars, without signing a single player from outside the organization.
"With a guy like that, you have six beers, pass out, come to the park and hit."
Giants were at $118 million this year so a notch up is not that big of a stretch.
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With the money they’re making, I would not be surprised to see the payroll go to $130M. Obviously, the payroll obligation could fluctuate wildly depending on who gets offered arbitration and what those figures ultimately end up being. The Giants could start out with $20M to spend on the market or $4 to spend on the market, depending on a lot of factors.
"With a guy like that, you have six beers, pass out, come to the park and hit."
That’s what I think…I think they have money for one medium contract and one low end FA contract…13-15 million/5-7 million.
Since Rowand and Mole comes off the books in 2013…Cain and Wilson as FAs
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I don't want them signing any more veteran FA
unless they are to minorleague deals.
Sabean has a long history of screwing up veteran FA contracts. I’d rather take chances internally or with upside only minor league deals like we did with Torres and Vogelsong, and lay off the Tejada and Rowand-like deals that will be out there. I’d rather save it for a midseason acquisition, those are harder to screw up because you know more about the asset you are acquiring.
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I'm okay with signings like what we gave Huff last year.
I was actually okay with the DeRosa signing at the time, and I’m still okay with it now, even though it looks terrible. It was a good calculated risk, and on this one we just happened to get bitten in the ass by the risk end. I think taking a low(ish) $$, high risk, high upside chance with a veteran isn’t a bad strategy.
For example, Grady Sizemore might wind up a free agent at the end of the year.
Savoring disappointment since 1993.
I never liked the Derosa deal.
He was damaged goods—that’s the biggest reason. He wasn’t even fully recovered from offseason wrist surgery and within a week of ST starting he was talking about his wrist being sore. He clearly was never right and that was a risk I don’t think should have been taken.
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I understand, wrist injuries are tricky.
But he’s only getting 6 million this year, and he’s off the books next year. It was a risk that didn’t pan out. It hurts some this year, but the pain will stop at the end of this season.
Savoring disappointment since 1993.
Some of my arb estimates would have been lower than yours
but negligible and the difference will likely be eaten up by the difference in what you have there and what I think Pablo will get.
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Wait...what?
Jonathan Sanchez will be a Type A free agent, but because we certainly don’t want to offer him arbitration, we’re going to lose him to free agency and get nothing in return? Not even a draft pick? We should’ve traded him when we had the chance.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
They'll offer
just low ball
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If they offer arb
Are you suggesting they would low ball with their number? and once he accepted he’s a Giant. All that would be left to determine would be the salary. Low balling the arb number so that Sanchez’s number has a higher probability of being chosen by the arbiter seems like a risky strategy…or am I missing something.
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No…I think the Giants would offer…I don’t think the arbitrator will side with Dirty in light of his most recent year
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Arbitrators look at the last two years of production most heavily, I believe. And since the two years are at polar opposites of the spectrum in terms of production, it would be a very interesting arbitration hearing, I’m sure.
"With a guy like that, you have six beers, pass out, come to the park and hit."
Sanchez is making $4.8 m this year…I say Giant offer something like 5…Sanchez will probably counter with like 6-7.
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I'd be okay with any of these numbers.
That doesn’t seem unreasonable for one year of service time for a mid to back of the rotation guy, even Sanchez. He’s disappointing, but he still has upside. Giving him 3 years and $36 million would be a huge mistake (ahem, Oliver Perez).
Savoring disappointment since 1993.
Yeah
I’m okay with an one-year deal. That’s why I’m not annoyed about Miggy’s deal…it’s not great but it’s one year. Better Miggy’s one year deal than Uribe’s 3.
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Agreed here too
I would have preferred paying more for JJ Hardy, but I guess he wasn’t really available? If the Orioles hadn’t signed him prior to the season, they presumably would have offered him arbitration, right? Or maybe I’m misunderstanding his situation.
Savoring disappointment since 1993.
You mean the Twins?
Yeah, it’s hard to say what price Hardy would have fetched. Orioles got him pretty cheap but that because they were the one bidder left.
It’s really hard to say. Padres gave up a lot to get Bartlett and he’s done next to nothing.
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Hardy has had a great offensive seasoin
but his defense seemed to have diminished somewhat…(which is the reason a lot of people wanted him)…he was coming off of 0.2 and 1.4 oWAR seasons…
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Personally I think Sanchez has an injury
I posted some numbers from Fangraphs earlier today and to me (a guy who has no idea about what effects injury really have on pitch usage and velocity other than the general assumption that velocity goes down with injury) he looks injured.
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Now that I'm completely depressed
Agree on 1,2 and 4. 2 should be easily doable given the fan response this year. There is NO REASON the Giants shouldn’t be willing to spend with the big boys.
Wilson is worth every penny.
I sure HOPE they resign Lopez (and also Affeldt albeit at a lower price).
The optimistic thing
Is that the Giants are gonna continue raking in cash next year. Even if they don’t make the playoffs this year, the return of Buster to the lineup is gonna be a huge draw. I think they’ll keep selling out games on 2010 goodwill for quite some time, let alone the possibility of a contending team this/next season.
Enough to pursue Jose Reyes or even Jimmy Rollins? It’d take a miracle.
by Lies and Perfidy on Aug 11, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He had the last series off.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
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I told him you wouldn’t mind. My bad.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Heyyy
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Fonzie?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Aug 11, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that a picture taken in her metal shop class?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Chemistry 101
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
i hope she's waving goodbye and not hello ......
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
BattingStanceG Batting Stance Guy
Not saying LaRussa prefers veterans, but StLCards just added Arthur Rhodes and got younger.
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Listening to My Beautiful Dark twisted fantasy for the first time in a few months.
This album never ceases to amaze me.
Had a crazy day at work...
just eating lunch now and I got to work at 7 a.m.
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It's ok I posted for you
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Asians all post alike
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Another reason this year is not last year
In 2010, the Giants sandwiched a 20-8 July and an 18-8 September around their 13-15 August.
By the time they’re done with this upcoming road trip—even assuming they go 4-6—they’re going to need a stellar September. Like, 15-10 or 16-9. Which is going to be tough to pull off with 13 of 25 on the road (and a 10-game road trip right in the middle of the month).
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Only winning teams they have to play against for the rest of the season
Are the DBacks and the Braves if I recall correctly. It is entirely possible that we can pull off a decent rest of the season
Anybody job hunting? Yosemite NP has an opening for a physical scientist.
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i watch elmo in grouchland almost daily with my son
so i lold at woobie pretty hard
Sometimes you just have to look death in the face and say whatever man
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by operation carrot on Aug 11, 2011 3:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wow
all I can say is wow
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We are going on a 10 game winning streak
by Anonymous1337 on Aug 11, 2011 4:00 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
When?
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I don't think they are homophobic
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
just feel like they are making fun of the narrarator, but maybe i am just being too sensitive. the ads are annoying either way.
They quote his youtube vids exactly. I think that’s how he actually talks.
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
All of these guys are goofs. - G. Brisbee
Watching LL baseball
will probably be more entertaining than Giants baseball.
What…pitchers throwing strikes?
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The Missouri pitcher
is pulling a Zito: 6 runs in the first inning.
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Shift+A
On the way back from buying a TV, I heard Raplh on KNBR saying he has the solution to our #5 starter problem. Anyone hear what it was?
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
We did get 3D though we’re not into it (no 3D DVD), it is included in the more advanced models. We bought a Sony 55" HX720. It really smoked the other brands to my eyes—and it was even set up in a room with a lot of natural light.
We needed to get a satellite and TV because we’ve been watching the G’s road games out at bars, but it’s the time of year when hangegg starts taking over.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
we need a bigger TV for my daughter who has a significant visual impairment (really). let me know what you think when you get it set up. I think 55 would be perfect.
My eyesight are starting to naturally deteriorate (just turned 50) and I didnt think I would see a huge difference, I just wanted something big and reliable, but was pretty impressed by the difference in certain models.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Mota
"I never stop being amazed by how much people who hate stats because they’re "flawed" quote so much more obviously flawed stats. " -Joe Posnanski
by RichHerreraHomer on Aug 11, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Skip the #5 starter as often as possible?
Moar Timmy! He’s not made of porcelain!
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
Burn up Timmy before he goes to the Yankees
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by RichHerreraHomer on Aug 11, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
He’d look so good in pinstripes.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
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by Murray, Present on Aug 11, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
....... ew .......
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
he wouldn’t be able to keep his hair long or rock the new soul patch if he did. He’d be just another Jason Giambi or Johnny Damon
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I"ll be watching the little league world series
instead of Giants Baseball this year
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I think it was Buster who grounded out right?
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
YOU MEAN FREDDY F DOT LEW
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Yeah that's right. It seems like it was ages ago now.
Cheering for the Phillies to BEAT LA in the NLCS in 09 feels like five years ago.
Remember Game 2 when the Dodgers won with a bases loaded walk? That was infuriating.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
it's the best, isn't it?
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by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes it is
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12845581
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The look on Jayson Werth’s face is priceless.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I love the description I read once that likened Werth to a homeless guy who wandered onto the field.
Thanks to Gov. Reagan, those two groups are now congruent.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I still like this one
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=12902225
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I wonder if Peguero will get called up in September
Verdugo also having a nice outing so far today.
3 IP 2 H 1 ER 0 BB 5 K
Jeff Passan’s analysis of the AL Cy Young race is hilariously bad.
Most of the time, I'm dumb. I'm just playing smart.
Fix'd
Jeff Passan’s analysis of the AL Cy Young raceis hilariously bad.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
The correct correction is of course:
Jeff Passan’s analysis of the AL Cy Young race is hilariously bad.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Brent Burns has a Harry Potter Tatoo
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Hey, I just got your comic.
It’s awesome!
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 11, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Kissing up isn’t going to prevent you from being banned if Natto gets an itchy banhammer.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Cash works best.
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
you know we ban suck-ups around here, right?
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I for one welcome our new Asian food overlord
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Well then, you're all assholes.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 11, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Idiot question
So, if the Dbacks lose tonight, we’re tied again, right?
Get well soon, Buster & Freddy.
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Idiot
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"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 11, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
We're not catching the D'Backs!
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Aug 11, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Ever!
Even next year!
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not even next year!
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Are you calling us all idiots?
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey! You’re the one that answered it…
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
well yeah
but he is still calling you an idiot. You gonna sit back and take that?
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RABBLE
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by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Just watching Bumgarner's relief stint in Game 6 of the NLCS
that frisbee curve thingy he throw to Francisco was insane.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
They’re playing Don’t Stop Believing in Philadelphia, haha.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
They are aware of its power.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Crap, missed an opportunity to use ‘eldritch’.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 11, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
IMPORTANT ALLEGORY BULLETIN
I just figured out Bugs Bunny is JFK and Daffy Duck is Richard Nixon. It was all part of Warner Brothers’ subconscious commentary on postwar American. Holy crap.
/applies for MacArthur grant
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
by TheLetter2 on Aug 11, 2011 5:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Does that mean that Porky Pig is Spiro T. Agnew?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I have my best people working on that very question as we speak. They’re also tackling whether Pepe LePew in fact represented deGaulle.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
then who was Speedy Gonzalez or the Tasmanian Devil?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
So who is Elmer Fudd?
Krushchev?
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 11, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Khrushchev
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
He can spare a few consonants.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Aug 11, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t Bugs Bunny start in like World War II or something? For you youngsters… that’s like late 1930’s – mid 1940’s.
If there was ever a moment in my life to take off a pair of glasses and whisper “My God,” now is it.
/takes off glasses
My God.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Well
there are only 44 games left in the season.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Orlando Cabrera (because everyone needs to be loved)
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
As soon as they get off the plane in Miami.
"And you fueled and energized this group, all the way through the crazy month of September. And into what was an epic month of October, and what was one glorious day of November." - Kruk
It's not the Heat!
It’s the Lebrons
"And you fueled and energized this group, all the way through the crazy month of September. And into what was an epic month of October, and what was one glorious day of November." - Kruk
When Huff puts on the rally thong,
and takes off the rally chastity belt.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
They were hot. For 3 months they won pretty much every series.
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Aug 11, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone have two Outside Lands tickets?
I want to go see Phish badly enough to actually go. I don’t want to go badly enough to actually pay, though. Maybe 20 bux a ticket. $100 or more is just stupid. Anyone have 3 days who hate Phish and don’t plan on seeing them?
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Aug 11, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions
Did GiantPain buy it?
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
now sell uranus
It's the logo for my favorite band!
by positiveuphemism on Aug 11, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
They wouldn’t have 30 wins if they didn’t have Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Those guys haven't even been worth 30 wins
26 to be exact. They’d also have lost 28 less games.
That is cray-z.
Oy… it’s that wonderful time of year when baseball and football start fighting each other for time on the tele-ma-vision.
The only person who ever watches any football in this house is me. And I rarely watch it these days (who wants to watch Alex Smith and his incredibly tiny hands throw dink passes all day?).
My only conflict is baseball vs. Nickelodeon/Cartoon Network.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (and occasionally blarg,) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Typically, I watch maybe one college football game every year. It’s near the beginning of the season, and I guess it helps get me in the mood for fall (an otherwise lovely season). This year, I picked the Oklahoma/Tulsa game, slated for September 3. I wish it was a day game, but whatevs.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Oklahoma/Tulsa? That doesn’t seem like a terribly interesting game.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
The only Oklahoma game I would watch would be vs. Texas.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
PLENTY OF GOOD SEATS STILL AVAILABLE
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL UPTON
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 6:53 PM PDT reply actions
Non-game night. People are out somewhere.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I went out last night, and I’ll be out again tomorrow. I’m enjoying the lull tonight.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Lurking
I’m trying to avoid the debate/hand egg asshattery on twitter.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
love that game ........
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
DISASTROS!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 7:14 PM PDT reply actions
Astros or DBacks feed?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I have the DBacks feed
They welcomed “all the Giants fans watching the broadcast”.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
.............. bastards ..............
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Our season rests in this man's hands .........
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
he actualy looks like fat affeldt
Feed the Panda some bamboo
by anotherbadexcuseguitar on Aug 11, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Happy birthday Pablo!!!
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
DON'T EAT THAT, PABLO
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
not this year's Pablo!
hahaha.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn, he’s galooty. Or whatever the Venezuelan equivalent is. And of course, I mean that in a good way.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Those are your type of men, I gather.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Dan Uggla with a 31-game hit streak.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
LOL Fat Pablo
This photo was posted last November on Athletics Nation with the caption: “To save money in these tough times, Pablo Sandoval has been gracious enough to allow MLB to pay him his World Series share in cake.”
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2010/11/1/1788384/ct-thread-11-1-10-is-it-march-yet
LOL 2011 A’s
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Aug 11, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't the Grizzlies just play in Iowa?
This gave me a scare. It’s exactly the sort of terrible luck that could have Cabrera/Tejada playing SS until 2015.
OT
Do the Giants ever have throwback uniform games? If not, why .Seems fun for the fans at least.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
The uniform they wear all the time is a throwback uniform, as it were. It’s what they wore when they came here, and what they’ve been wearing off and on since 1933 (with, of course, New York changed to San Francisco). All their other uniforms have been ugly.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
World Championship uniforms: 1933, 1954, 2010
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I WANT THAT JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Evidence of ugly
Tell me that this looks good. No belt, no buttons, softball tops, and colored sanitaries! It seems like a pale imitation of the A’s. This is a relic of the days when the artificial turf at Candlestick was a very unnatural shade of green and the Giants were a laughingstock and perpetual also-ran.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
A dancing guy from Parks and Rec
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
“That Ralph Macchio guy is a real douche.”
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Aug 11, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Even Worse
Turn Ahead the Clock Jersey
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
by calgiants86 on Aug 11, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
/ vomits.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m glad those monstrosities were worn before I started following baseball.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Only 1999...
I was a young 13 year old Giants Fan and I knew this was wrong.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
I was gonna say...
Prefer Bonds wearing this uniform to Rowand wearing today’s classic look.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
They wore those about 15 years before you were born.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That particular set is from 1978, 16 years before I was born.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
If it makes you feel better, I am about 10 years older than you. Rxmeister is about 125 years older.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Ever seen his picture?
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I like the white version
orange is awful and the orange sanitaries are turrible. What did their road unis look like? I’m pretty sure with the white pants, these are all home options.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL UPTON AGAIN
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions
DISASTROS!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 7:44 PM PDT reply actions
Was watching a little Brewers-Cards. Chris Carpenter got into it with a Brewers player. Guess which one.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
leadoff walk to the opposing pitcher is always a good strategy
Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington. Will your team regret passing up on my boy 50 times?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 11, 2011 7:46 PM PDT reply actions
Tommy LTP!!!
Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington. Will your team regret passing up on my boy 50 times?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 11, 2011 7:47 PM PDT reply actions
In play, run(s)!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
What’s the Injury Delay for?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
thank god the Raiders have started their season
Now Kawakami and Ratto can stop tweeting about the giants.
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
I know this is pretty much the only thing I've had to say all day
But goddamn I hate off-days.
Spent most of the day reading recommendation letters and articles on anti-fat bias.
Without a game, I’m having trouble figuring out when I’m supposed to eat dinner.
I was talking to my father earlier and realized that I have nothing interesting to day.
There shouldn’t be twenty hours of work between one game and the next.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I finished the rewrite on a chapter that’s been kicking my ass for the past week. Kicked its ass right back! Hah.
Why are you reading articles on anti-fat bias?
I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.
It’s just something that I’ve been thinking about.
Just thinking about how casual it is, and how tacitly accepted.
Plus, public health interventions are an area of great interest for me,
So it makes for a lot of good questions and considerations.
Congratulations on finishing the chapter. I’ve been slugging away at the same story for weeks. Not as intently as I should be, but I’m keeping up appearances.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
at least the giants will not lose tonight
Pitching and defense wins championships, but oh those dingerz....
At about 1:30 last night I found myself on Wikipedia reading about sheep reproduction. I may have a problem.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Have you tried putting her up on a stool?
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
At 12:30 last night I forgot the name of Liam Neeson
So I googled “Qui-Gon Jinn”. Ended up reading way too much of Wookieepedia.
I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.
Lancer Frigates!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Jacen Solo is an interesting character. Oddly powerful yet wimpy/pacifist.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Well you try growing up with Leia Solo as a mother! Have you seen her one-woman show?
I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.
/gulps Lomiin ale
No.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
/sips Whyren’s Reserve
Yes
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Princess Leia Organa Solo: Wishful Drinking, the Interstellar Tour
“So let me tell you about kissing my brother.”
I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.
by shanghaijim on Aug 11, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
SOUTH PASSAGE!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Aug 11, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Better than me. I find myself, at times, going to You Tube and watching 1980s music videos.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I always end up watching recordings of network special reports and bulletins. I just got through watching more than an hour of September 11 coverage from the Big Three.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
I’m a sicko who longs to watch major breaking stories like that as if they were happening. When CNN did its 5-year anniversary stuff by replaying its coverage minute-by-minute with limited contemporary commentary, I watched every moment.
I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.
I didn’t start recording Today until January, 2002, so I didn’t have an archived copy of the 9/11 coverage. When MSNBC re-ran the Today coverage, I recorded it then. I have a similar sense of wanting to be in touch with breaking stories, but I also analyze them as learning tools for how to handle such coverage in the future. NPR’s coverage of the attacks, for example, was notoriously bad.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
What made it so bad?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I'm glad you asked.
The story broke during Morning Edition, in what we call “the rollover.” When the live feeds ends at 7 a.m. ET, the two hours keep cycling out to the rest of the country (especially the West) on tape. At least, that was the model being used on September 11.
So the first plane hit the north tower of the WTC at 8:46 a.m. ET. All the TV networks broke in by 8:55. But Morning Edition kept plodding right along, playing back the old hours on tape. Finally, well after 9:00 a.m. ET, Bob Edwards broke in and began to kinda-sorta talk about what was happening, but his information was horribly outdated. They finally had to roll a TV monitor into the studio so Bob could just narrate what he was seeing. It was an embarrassment for the network.
As the day wore on, the coverage improved dramatically, and Scott Simon’s overnight coverage in particular won praise from many. But the coverage that first morning led to sweeping changes in the way NPR handles breaking news. The old guard (Edwards, along with Linda Wertheimer and Noah Adams at ATC) was moved to other positions, and new blood brought in. Morning Edition would no longer broadcast on tape after 7:00 a.m. ET, instead continuously updated until the feed ends at noon Eastern.
It was a big lesson for all of us.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
by TheLetter2 on Aug 11, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Then my job is done. And with that, I’m off to read a book about California’s geology so that I may be conversant in the various terranes of the Franciscan Complex by next week.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
My pops is a PhD geologist
I always used to joke that my dad was a doctor, and if you got hit in the head by a rock, he could certainly resuscitate the rock.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Were the old guard already on their way out, or was the coverage so terribly bad that it precipitated/hastened their removal?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
It was the proverbial 9-0 Zito start in Cincinnati. It was clear something had to be done. That Tuesday signaled a shift in the way news had to be covered, and network flexibility was crucial.
Originally, the network wanted Bob to stay, but to gain a co-host. He refused. So they moved him off ME in 2004 and brought in Steve and Renee.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Hmm. I guess I’m young enough that I don’t remember the pre-Steve/Renee days. Oddly, I’m pretty sure I was listening to NPR when we were driving to school, well after all three air strikes had occurred, but I don’t recall much, if any, of the coverage.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I’m actually reading magazines. I don’t think I’ve really read any since April or May
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
“The final score Arizona 8, Houston 4”
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
SHUSH!!!!!!!
Remember what happened the other night???
Upton had three hits, including a home run, and drove in four runs and the Diamondbacks rallied from a six-run deficit to beat the Houston Astros 11-9 on Tuesday night.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at the Giants game. Saw a 7-1 Astros lead that went away quickly.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
That must've been the worst ........
I watched it from home like (o_O)
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Zarathustra speaks.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
what the heck was Ptah or whomever fapping too?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Aug 11, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe Ptah was fapping to Heryshaf.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Brian McCann likes .........
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Bobby Jenks... jkjkjk
Maybe was thinking of Hathor…
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
nope.
it’s real, brother, oh …… it’s real.
"A Giants game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
I'm an avid protester against "the Wave," "the Fist Pump Dance," and "Like a G-Man."
by GIANT stoner on Aug 11, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup Bobby Jenks actually thinks that is cool.
"They'll put a man on the moon before I hit a home run." ~ Gaylord Perry
Not your game, pal.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Not your pal, man.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Not your dude, bro.
"Pablo Sandoval, coming around third like a runaway beer truck." - Kruk
So, I just noticed every game in September is against the division. Crazy.
by Rhapsody in Teal on Aug 11, 2011 8:40 PM PDT reply actions
BREAKING
But yeah, we’ll all go insane from seeing the Cameron Maybins and Chris Iannettas of the world over and over and over again.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Die in a fire.
Yeah, I figured I was late with that news.
by Rhapsody in Teal on Aug 11, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Young will hit a game-tying home run. It’s fate.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Crap.
Ricky Nolasco tomorrow? According to my memory, that has not been a favorable matchup.
Nolasco’s numbers are down this year, so at least that makes me feel a little better about our chances.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 11, 2011 9:09 PM PDT reply actions
They do against pitchers that can't throw as far as the catcher.
The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do.
Point taken
I feel like there are pitchers who we actually get rallies against and then fail with RISP, hit into a double play, can’t get the guy home from 3rd with less than 2 outs, etc.
Nolasco is one of the guys who we don’t seem to even generate drama against. Strikes, quick outs, NEXT!
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 11, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember an article during the offseason (a ranking of pitchers that I think had some pokemonz involved) that claimed Nolasco was as good as Matt Cain (or, rather, that Cain was as not-good as Nolasco). It bothered me.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
He has been underrated
Except this year, his numbers are a little off.
He is no Matt Cain, though. He’s close, but, better? Nah.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 11, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I have an all white background
It looks weird.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
FUCK THE ASTROS
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Heard that!
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Aug 11, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Effin Astros!!
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:22 PM PDT reply actions
oh my god astros LOL
UP THE PUCKS!
"This is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle
by TheSoundOfHockey on Aug 11, 2011 9:23 PM PDT reply actions
Myers doesn't know how to win
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:23 PM PDT reply actions
LOL
That was destroyed. That ball became an Astro.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 11, 2011 9:23 PM PDT reply actions
Goldschmidt
be glad Bork isn’t your manager, nobody would know who you are.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:25 PM PDT reply actions
How can Arizona be contending and winning with a rookie at first base????
Inconceivable!
I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.
I thought Bill Virdon was dead
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:26 PM PDT reply actions
Jose Altuve
He will be the one to give the Giants fits. Will go 10 for 12 in Houston and 11 for 15 in SF.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
when Dirty pitches
he will go 1 for 1 with 3 BBs and a HBP
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
El Caballo needs to go yard
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:29 PM PDT reply actions
Wake the F***** Up Giants
This shit of waiting to be back in first place by proxy. I say I hope the Giant’s players are keeping an eye on this, too which I’m sure they are! Maybe this will kick ’em in their ASS!
I sit and await always faithful to the giants
by luved the stick on Aug 11, 2011 9:30 PM PDT reply actions
I would just like Bork to watch the game
and see how a rookie first baseman can contribute.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Turning point of the season
Top of the 10th, first game of the series in Cincinnati. 2 outs, bases loaded. Mike Fontenot was up to bat, already 0-4 with a bunch of horrible at-bats with RISP. With Brandon Belt available on the bench, Bochy sticks with Fontenot, who strikes out on three pitches. And the Giants’ season unravels from there…
good point
started their downward spiral. Look at the contrast, Gibson sends the rookie up with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th. Incredible confidence builder.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
This sucks
Instead I’m reading Grant’s first Usenet post, which is the sort of thing that would totally get someone laughed off of this place today, what with the reckless Sabean love.
A gem from the replies:
1) Williams for Roa/Tavarez/Kent/Vizcaino.
analysis: Vizcaino is a total loser. No reason he should be paid 2.6M
or traded for to do what he does, which is provide no bat and avg.
defense
at SS. Roa/Tavarez/Kent is value. Summary: they didn’t get commpletely
ripped off, but given that the salary equivalent is close, they should
have
gotten more. At least Brian Giles or something
2) Watson AND a prospect for JT Snow, worst regular 1B in 1996.
No sugar coating on this one. Definitly the worst move by ANY team
this year, and possible an all-time loser.
J.T. Snow sucks!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Double switch for the ending of this game and inning
Coming in..Matt Downs.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I have a bad feeling
About Chris Young right here.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 11, 2011 9:41 PM PDT reply actions
left the leftander in to face CY
dumbasses
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:42 PM PDT reply actions
Full game back
D’backs deserve it, Giants need to get their shit together starting tomorrow.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Aug 11, 2011 9:43 PM PDT reply actions
Stupid astros
UP THE PUCKS!
"This is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle
by TheSoundOfHockey on Aug 11, 2011 9:44 PM PDT reply actions
Not a game night but let's drink anyway.
I'm not fat, I'm a carousel.
by shanghaijim on Aug 11, 2011 9:45 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I mean...
CF Jason Bourgois
2B Jose Altuve
LF JD Martinez
1B Carlos Lee
3B Jimmy Paredes
RF Jason Michaels
SS Clint Barmes
C Humberto Quintero
At least it wasn’t a 4 game sweep. It’s hard to believe that I would prefer the Giants’ lineup to anybody else’s lineup, but, it just happened.
by Sgt. Dingleberry on Aug 11, 2011 9:49 PM PDT reply actions
Don't be chopped
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/8/11/2357982/open-confidence-poll-overflow-thread
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
OT Grub
any good restaurants near the park? (don’t say MoMo’s)
pround son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
21st Amendment is ok
Check out Catch-28.com, a blog about Buster Posey and the San Francisco Giants.
Primo Patio Caribbean Grill, Brick House (spendy), South Beach Cafe (pizza)
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
HRD has asian fusion cheesesteak sammiches that are good.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Aug 12, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
"It's a great collection of arms."
Sigh, new season of dexter comes out soon.
Temperance, like Chastity is it's own punishment.
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