Giants at the trade deadline: Is it okay to trade with the Dodgers?
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 6, 2011 12:39 PM PDT
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Candy Maldonado. If MLB.com would take my money in exchange for access to their videos, I'd have a .gif right now of his sliding non-catch in the '87 NLCS. I don't remember what it looked like, but I'm pretty sure it involved:
- a colony of horseshoe bats attacking him as the ball was in the air
- his shoelaces turning into sand worms as part of some sort of Beetlejuice-related tomfoolery
- spontaneous disintegration of his ACL, MCL, and UCL as he was lumbering towards the ball
- a young Glenallen Hill scribbling notes on the back of a program while watching
- Tommy Lasorda rubbing his hands together in glee after Operation Sweet Tooth becomes an official success
Maldonado was the player the Giants received in the last trade the team made with the Dodgers. Well, the last trade of note. There was the Travis Denker/Mark Sweeney deal that did nothing for no one. I'd love to see a list of the almost trades over the past few seasons. Jason Schmidt for Matt Kemp, I'm sure. A notarized document that erases Orel Hershisher and Duke Snider from the Giants' all-time roster in exchange for exclusive rights to Juan Marichal.
But there hasn't been a trade of consequence between the two teams since 1985, when the Giants traded pro golfer Lee Trevino for Candy, who actually received MVP votes in 1986 (.289 OBP!) and had a pretty good season in '87 (.292/.346/.509) before the ill-timed sliding catch attempt.
This all comes up now because over at True Blue LA, there's a great post that breaks down the contenders who might be willing to pick over the Dodgers' bones for some of their scraps. The Giants are included in this post because they are still contending. The Dodgers' site had this post up because the Dodgers are not. That should warm that Padres-frosted heart just a little bit.
TBLA thinks the Giants could be interested in Rafael Furcal, Jamey Carroll, and Juan Uribe. The Uribe thing was already debunked by Sabean himself, though if the Dodgers want some of this Aaron Rowand, we're not really going to finish it. The other two would be interesting, though ...
Furcal would be interesting because he could enter into some sort of negotiation with Freddy Sanchez. They would sit around a long conference table and decide to sell and trade body parts. One player would take the other's healthy ankle, knee, wrist, and shoulder to become a whole and valuable baseball player again. The other one would be come a puddle of skin that would need to travel around in a wheelbarrow, going from county fair to county fair and making some sweet coin as a sideshow attraction.
If the Dodgers were willing to give Furcal away, fine. But I'm not sure if the Giants are in the market for fragile. That storeroom is allll full up.
Jamey Carroll's eyes are too far apart, but it might be worth looking past that. He's an OBP guy who could fill an infield gap currently filled by Manny Burriss -- the win-winniest of upgrades. It is really a sweet fit. The price shouldn't be prohibitive. It addresses a weakness.
But the Dodgers. Name any member of the minor league system right now as a potential piece to a Dodgers trade. Now picture him having success as a Dodger. Yuck.
Thomas Neal picked up an RBI today as Clayton Kershaw shut down the Giants ...Heath Hembree, who is not morbidly obese, picks up the save for Los Angeles ...
Ehire Adrianza with the dive! The throw! And Rowand is out! The 2017 season is over, and the Dodgers take the last game of the year ...
It's an immature reason to not want Carroll, especially since he really isn't going to take a top prospect. There shouldn't be that much of a difference between trading prospects to the Dodgers and trading them to another team. You're giving up potential future value no matter where it goes. That should be the concern. Strengthening a divisional rival is minor collateral damage.
At least, it is until Neal hits his first home run as a Dodger and your heart leaks out of your toenails. I want Carroll the player, but I'm not sure if I want to give a raffle ticket to the Dodgers, lest they win and start rubbing their body with the winnings right in front of us. Seems like the kind of thing that could bug us for five or six years.
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I’m in favor of Jamey Carroll.
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Furcal has been my deeply tanned whale for years
Pretty sure he’s past his sell-by date now, however. But goddamn, I loved watching him pick it in his prime.
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HATE
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
c'mon
it’s not like he’s Casey Blake or anything
/seethes
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He’s good, admittedly, but I never liked him, even on the Braves. Childish irrationality is one of my traits that doesn’t lend itself to GMertude.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, Grant
I clicked on the site, saw that picture of Gene Simmons and let out a loud “GAAAAAH!” that everyone in my office just heard.
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At least you don't have the same pangs of regret that 5,389 women do when they see a Simmons picture.
by Grant Brisbee on Jul 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Brian Wilson’s beard fell asleep on top of his head.
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by Kitspool on Jul 6, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
puddle of skin
Band name!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 12:44 PM PDT reply actions
King Horseshoe Bat
The horseshoe bat mention sent me to wikipedia where I discovered there are many awesome species of horseshoe bat, such as the Eloquent Horseshoe Bat. But King Horseshoe Bat has the best band name potential.
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Seriously though, DNW.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
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Furcal would be a dream
But Jamey Carroll is a rich man’s Mike Fontenot, who really is more of a 2b than a SS. The place that’s begging for large upgrades is a) C and b) 1B.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
C, yes
Belt will provide a nice upgrade at 1B when he returns (he says, hopefully).
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and another thing
Giants really do need offensive upgrades at 2B and SS IMO. Crawford and Burriss aren’t ML hitters, and even Fontenot would be an upgrade over either one. Which is saying something.
I think Crawford might be an average hitter in the bigs some day, but that day ain’t today.
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Outside of whatever position Pablo's playing
the Giants need offensive upgrades pretty much everywhere.
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I don't necessarily disagree with that
Although I think Yungo is due for some regression. I hope.
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pretty much
maybe they can even play defense too
Upgrading 2B and SS means that Tehaha will have nowhere to play. And Sabochean will not let that happen.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it isn't.
Fontenot’s career offense numbers are eerily similar to FSanchez’s, and his glove is at least satisfactory, so why would it be “saying something” that he’d be an upgrade over Crawford or (especially) Burriss?
I’m inclined to agree about Crawford, but only “inclined”: we really don’t know enough, and you might want to look at his current BABIP before drawing definite conclusions. His K rate is very close to the league average, so if his BABIP were more nearly average, his BA would be at least respectable, and we do not just now have concerns over either his walks rate or his power.
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Huff ain’t going to sit out many games to get Belt in the lineup – it’s not going to happen. Belt may be able to hit enough to get some consistent PT in LF, but that will take some very sustained good hitting on his part. Most likely Belt spends a lot more time in Fresno this summer.
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Sabes is not going to trade Belt for that pile of crap.
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I don’t think they think much of Belt now. I don’t like the Giants attitudes towards hitters. I don’t think they view working the count and taking walks as a plus. Bochy is more concerned with track records. Sabean is fine with letting his manager manage. If the manager’s not going to use him, Sabes might just view him as expendable, and he might be a valuable trade chip in the org’s eyes.
I'd think that most managers not employed by a team 20 games
under at the break like to play players with a track record more than completely unproven rookies.
Except for Emmanuel Burriss!
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a hell of a lot better than Burriss's
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
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Bill Hall had a 72 OPS+ for Houston this year
This is terrible. This was DFA-worthy.
Emmanuel Burriss has a 49 OPS+ this year.
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There’s something about this team that makes me sad every day.
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by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And it's NOT TGWTWS!
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Yes, it was; but . . .
. . . as recently as 2010 he had a pretty good year. And his career stats are not bad at all. I suspect that as with Burrell, only perhaps even more so, if he doesn’t play much, he won’t hit much, so it becomes a literally self-fulfilling prophecy to say “he can’t hit”. If he’s not the answer to a maiden’s prayer, he could still possibly be a Uribe/DeRosa type, which is useful.
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Oh, man. Really?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
What about super shitty?
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What in the actual hell?
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He has a long track record of not being Emmanuel Bocock.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Not wrong, just tough to find comparable situations,
since the Giants’ offense is so completely terrible and their pitching so completely not. Most teams in the Giants spot have a bit more balance. Most of the everyday lineup would barely make most other teams, including those 20 games under .500.
I don’t think they viewworking the count and taking walksstriking out over 30% of the time in AAA as a plus.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jul 6, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That's really what worries me about him so much
I was really excited about him after last year, and I realize his AAA sample size is still pretty small, but Brandon Wood never even struck out that much in AAA.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jul 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
people realy need to stop using AB as a denominator
Plate appearances, people. Wood Kd in 23% of his AAA PAs, Belt in 18% of his.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think fangraphs uses different denominators for different players
Belt AAA 2010 13 games: 31.3%K
2011 32 games : 30.8%
Wood 2007 AAA 111 games 27.5%
2008 103 games 26.3%
2009 99 games 20.7
2010 13 games 33.3%
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jul 6, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If you can explain how you got your numbers to make Belt strike out less, I’d love to hear it.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jul 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
He did explain.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, pulled Belt’s career line instead of AAA. Instinct, I guess, to avoid the pathetically small sample. But they’re both at 23%: Belt 47 K, 201 PA, Wood 327 K, 1437 PA.
201 PA isn’t even a half-season’s worth.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
No but it’s almost exactly the same as his AA PA and it’s noticeable that the K rate spikes upward in AAA as compared to A+/AA. Also that the SLG is about .100 lower in AAA (even though he’s coming from an extreme pitching environment to an extreme hitting environment).
I don’t think that’s anything that a little more time in the minors won’t fix but is something to take note of.
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those numbers are strikeouts divided by AB
wcw is using strikeouts divided by PA
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In baseball, an at bat (AB) or time at bat is used to calculate certain statistics, including batting average, on base percentage, and slugging percentage. It is a more restricted definition of a plate appearance. A batter starts with an at bat every time he faces a pitcher; however, the batter gets “no time at bat” in the following circumstances:
He receives a base on balls (BB).1
He is hit by a pitch (HBP).
He hits a sacrifice fly or a sacrifice hit (also known as sacrifice bunt).
He is awarded first base due to interference or obstruction, usually by the catcher.
The inning ends while he is still at bat (due to the third out being made by a runner caught stealing, for example). In this case, the batter will come to bat again in the next inning, though he now has no balls or strikes on him.
He is replaced by another hitter before his at bat is completed (unless he is replaced with two strikes and his replacement strikes out).
ABs being PAs that don’t end in walks, HBPs, or sac hits, yes. You include those and strikeouts will account for a smaller percentage.
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I knew it would change the %, I never really thought about it long enough I guess to realize that it would drastically change comparisons between two players.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jul 6, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Belt walks a ton and Wood didn’t.
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Yeah
I think I never thought about it before because usually you don’t get that big of a discrepancy.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jul 6, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is why I hate denominating by ABs. If you want to measure contact, measure contact. Ks measure something other than 1 – contact.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The number of plate appearances is always higher than the number of at bats, because “at bats” does not include many of the trips to the plate a player takes.
When you divide one small number into one big number, and then also into a bigger number, the result will be smaller for the latter.
1/5 = .2
1/10 = .1
When Belt steps up to the plate, regardless of result, he strikes out less frequently than the other guy. When Belt steps up to the plate, and you throw out every time he took a walk, then he strikes out more frequently.
It doesn’t make sense to throw those out.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The rationale you hear is that K/AB measures ‘contact’. I disagree, but it’s not totally incoherent.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I totally understand throwing out IBB, since not even players on this roster will swing at those pitches, but you still have a chance of striking out when you get walked.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jul 6, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
What makes it worse is that patient hitters tend to strike out more by virtue of their patience.
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Interestingly enough
If you look at the guys who strike out the most in baseball, almost all of them are above average hitters.
That is cray-z.
yeah, but these are minor-league stats
The guys with high K rates in the majors have already stuck in the majors. There is strong evidence that high K rates in the minors is a bad sign for major-league success. But while 18% (Belt’s career mark) isn’t low, it isn’t worrisome. I want to see his triple-A Ks come down myself. I also think he needed a full year of triple A coming into the season.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Are Ks alone a danger sign?
I thought it was K/BB ratio that was important for minor league stats.
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Raw Ks are bad in the minors. They suggest a batter has a real problem with one or more pitches. Major league scouts will figure this out and that batter will be fed a steady diet of major-league quality versions of exactly the pitches of which even minor-league quality versions gave a batter trouble.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. I don’t know why one would want to know anything but the chances a guy will strike out when he steps to the plate. Doing parameter gymnastics seems to me to be little more than saying “I’m just used to seeing AT BATS, so I’ll make up a reason to use them.”
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Which means I still have 3 episodes left in season 3, when I could have been plowing into season 4…
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by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not convinced that sitting Huff for Belt would be much of an upgrade at all.
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I think Belt would probably get on base more.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
So have we given up hope that Belt will be any good?
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by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Is good now or will be good in the future?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Both, I guess. But I was referring to the rest of this year.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
While I think he’s very talented, he’s also very young and to pin the playoff hopes of a contender on his bat is a big gamble. It’s difficult to state with certainty he is good right now. Which won’t stop people from doing it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it worked with Posey last year
I don’t see any harm in giving him a shot on the big club. He really can’t be any worse than the other crap that’s been going out there.
Unless, you think that failing in the majors would hurt his psyche.
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Well, Posey is Posey. I don’t expect him to put up Posey numbers, but I don’t see how he could be much worse than anything we’re putting out there.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t this the dude who made the team out of ST and then got sent down because Huff couldn’t play the OF? Even if he does come up, they don’t have a space, or the patience, to let him find his ml stroke. But strangely, TGWTWS means no one is having Molina spazzes about Huff blocking him.
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He probably wouldn’t have even made the team out of ST if Ross hadn’t been on the DL. So, I could see them sending him back to Fresno. OTOH, they have even more injuries now, so maybe they’ll let him stay and give him enough AB’s.
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by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Personally, I'm in a quandary about Belt.
It seems unfair to put on him the kind of pressure to succeed at the plate that this team needs. He already has had his head messed with enough with making the team, getting sent down, coming back up, playing the OF, then breaking his hand. Besides, we already have one rookie named Brandon who has a pretty good approach, but doesn’t really hit that well (yet). Bringing up Belt and making him the 5th OF/1B sub would be like having Crawford play 2nd base because some older guy can do a halfassed job playing SS.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Crawford is almost certainly not going to hit well, ever. The hope is that he can be merely below-average.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
But at least he is being used defensively
where he can do the team some good. That was my point. Bringing up Belt so he can sit on the bench and not even play 1st seems like a waste of talent and bad for his development.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Of course. But recall I was in the full-year-at-triple-A camp when the season started.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
At least start the year there
was the right call. He probably would have been called up eventually with all the injuries.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
What an absurd comment
Based upon what – a couple partial minor league years?
Posey is not your average player
He is special. Belt may be very good, but he ain’t Posey. Very few have his combination of ability, intelligence, poise and confidence.
The Giants have not handled Belt well this year. First, they either should have had him start the season at Fresno (probably what should have happened) or stuck with him longer. Second, when they called him up again, he was playing sporadically. That made absolutely no sense. If he’s in SF, he has to play. His development suffers otherwise. Then the bad luck with the break.
I think (hope) the Ginats will act much more slowly this time. Belt should get plenty of ab’s in Fresno. If and when he gets hot, then call him back up. But only if he’s going to play everyday. If not, leave him in Fresno.
Posey really isn't the average player
Thinking back on it, Posey is the only Giants hitting prospect to actually be handed a job. Sabean traded Molina to open up the spot for him.
No other guy has gotten that consideration (not even Panda).
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They already did this. He got hot, they called him up, and then he got hurt. Now he has to repeat the process?
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Reread my post
And he was NOT hot when called off. He had cooled off. He was called up because of injuries.
Second, he was not USED when he came back up. That cannot happen again. So no, I don’t want the “process” repeated.
.324/.457/.500
That’s what Belt was hitting in AAA. What’s the definition of hot here?
That is cray-z.
So yes, let’s count on having historically unprecedented years with our rookies. That’s a solid strategy.
It might be that he can’t be worse than the current guys, but missing from that facile argument is the consideration of his development as a player.
To be honest, I see the phrase ‘hurt his psyche’ as a way of dismissing the idea that psychology has an effect on performance and mocking the idea that being promoted too quickly can be counter productive for a player’s development (but without having to actually come out and say ‘the minor leagues are bullshit’ or ‘confidence has no effect on performance’). I disagree with both the substance and tone of that, and think that having the ability to develop skills and work habits in a less pressure filled environment than the MLB can be very beneficial.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know that it’s even the pressure that makes the difference. When somebody is in an environment where they are vastly overmatched, it just plain sends weird signals to the brain about where their development is and where it should be, and they start doing weird things to try to compensate.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Like playing Street Fighter online. I’m not very good at Street Fighter, but if I played people around my skill level, I could get better. But if I play online, these people are just too good. I can’t practice any of the useful techniques because I don’t even get the chance to try them before my life bar is out. So I just start blocking. The whole match. Blocking and jumping out of the way, and every now and then sending a fireball in a random direction. My entire SF repertoire gets reduced to blocking, jumping, and fireball mashing. All because I’m not playing somebody closer to my skill level.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Blocking = take pitches/try for walks
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It wouldn’t help.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
But I think the fundamental problem would have been Sabean promoting me to online play in the first place.
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by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Professional fighter with veteran blocking skills.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
So is there any hope of you getting good enough to play the 8-year-olds online, or have you maxed out playing by yourself? At what point do you give the 8-year-olds a try?
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
And do you think
spending some time with the 8-year-olds helps you know what to work on? Or would you just be too lost and afraid and need your blankie?
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Kinda
but the Diaper Genie worked better.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
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Started with the NES!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Genie
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The picture in the left column is exactly what I saw.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Historically unprecedented?
That’s pouring it on a little thick don’t you think?
As for your indignation about the rest, you missed the mark. I was presenting that part as a legitimate concern that you could possibly have. I’m not trying to be combative.
I’m just having a conversation.
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I admit I may have missed your point, which is why I was careful to say ‘I see it as’. Because I miss points.
And yes, ‘unprecedented’ is a bit strong. Extremely rare?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I think extremely rare is a little bit much too
Posey’s season was really good but not orders of magnitude out of the ordinary.
I don’t think it’s completely unrealistic to hope for a similar season from Belt if given the chance. I’m not saying bank on it, but really what’s the downside? That he will be just as bad as the others with really good defense?
(Again, unless you think it would mess up his psyche)
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I do think it would be problematic for him, both mentally from a confidence standpoint and because I believe he needs to work on getting around on the high/inside fastball, which would be easier in AAA.
I’m trying to think… Mauer, Berra, Bench… I can’t figure out the correct search on fangraphs to look at rookie campaigns by full time catchers.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Same question to you as to Dr DC
Why are we holding the fact that Belt isn’t a catcher over his head? Why does that apply at all when talking about whether Belt can have a similar impact on the 2011 Giants that Posey had for the 2010 Giants?
As for mental confidence, I can buy that argument. I guess the question that pops up then is when do we let Belt loose in the majors and let him sink or swim?
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No
This is taking the positional value concept way out of context. The Giants need hitters. They potentially have one that is free. He could potentially have a big impact on the Giants offense. That’s where the comparisons need end.
The reason why offense from a catcher is more valuable is because it is easier to find 1st basemen who give offense. How easy is it for the Giants, though? Hmm? Who are the Giants going to get (aside from Huff turning it around) that is going to provide impact?
Positional value doesn’t apply in this case.
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And why, if he were to put up numbers similar to Posey’s, he wouldn’t make an impact on the 2011 Giants, apparently.
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Strawman?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
So here is my understanding of this conversation
Me: Belt potentially could have a similar impact on the 2011 Giants that Posey had last year.
You: He can’t because Posey plays catcher and catcher is a more valuable position than 1b.
Am I misrepresenting you?
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This is what I've been responding to this entire time:
Posey’s season was really good but not orders of magnitude out of the ordinary.
I don’t think it’s completely unrealistic to hope for a similar season from Belt if given the chance.
That is cray-z.
So it's a context thing
You want to attach the positional value to the potential similarities of their seasons.
I’m just talking about offense because regardless of positional value, the Giants need it and a similar offensive output to Posey from Belt would greatly help the Giants and it’s not out of the realm of possibility for Belt to provide similar offensive production.
Are we square? Are we understanding each other? Because that’s all I really want.
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I suppose
Yes it’s possible. I also think it might be a stretch for Belt to even hit as well as Posey. He is a rookie after all, that’s all I was really going for.
That is cray-z.
I would counter by saying that a first baseman would need to hit significantly better than Posey did to have the same impact, but I’m a former catcher so I may be biased.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Rare isn't too much
Name me all the rookie catchers in the history of the game to have a better season than Posey.
That is cray-z.
But we are talking about the context of rookies
Not rookie catchers. Yes, Posey being a catcher makes his season more valuable. But we can’t hold that against Belt when comparing the two, can we?
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Okay, but if that's the angle you guys are taking
then just know that it’s totally irrelevant. I was talking about Belt’s possible impact on the 2011 Giants and the counter to that is that Buster was a catcher.
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See above
We need only have this conversation in one place.
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I think this particular sub tangent is about the historicity of Posey’s ROY season.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Well then you guys are having a different conversation from me
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This may be true…
Back to the original point: I still think it’s a risky bet to expect a 23 year old to be the savior of a playoff team’s offense, and somewhat unfair to the rookie. If he was expected to just be a contributor (or if the Giants weren’t in contention) I might say throw him in there, but carrying a team down the stretch is a tall order. I may be too conservative in this regard, but there you are.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
in fact the Friars are doing this year with Rizzo what I thought the Giants
WOULD be doing with Belt. Bringing him along slowly, experiencing some success, bat him down in the order but not apply too much pressure, etc. Thats is what you can do when you actually have some leadership in the every day positions. But fuck, we didn’t even really have that last year. Posey saved us. We picked up Burrell and Ross dropped from the sky. And yet somehow we are all surprised we are back to that point again this year.
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by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can buy that
To me, it comes down to whether or not you think failure in the majors would be bad for Brandon Belt long-term. If you think so, then keep him in the minors. If you don’t think so, he needs to be up and playing as much as he can.
And, like I said, I can buy the argument that it could negatively affect him long-term.
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You could probably find more of these if you have a Baseball-reference play index subscription, but tinkering around I found these so far…some of these are a bit tricky to find because of cups of coffee in a prior year. These are all as good or better than Posey according to Baseball-references’ WAR (3.1). Some of that may be in question depending on how you account for defense. Names are in the order I found them.
Jim Sundberg (1974)
Bill Salkeld (1945)
Terry Steinbach (1987)
Butch Wynegar (1976)
Kenji Johjima (2006)
Mike Piazza (1993)
Thurman Munson (1970)
Johnny Bench (1968)
Tom Haller (1962)
Rudy York (1937)
Bill Dickey (1929)
Joe Mauer, Craig Biggio, Jody Davis, Brian McCann, Roy Campanella and Kurt Suzuki all did better in their first full season, but had over 100 PAs in the year prior, some as much as almost half a season. None in the above list had over 100 PAs in their first season, so unless there was a service time issue they would have qualified for ROY voting.
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by Ott on Jul 6, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Well done I suppose
But it still seems relatively rare, how many years are you going back?
I’d love to continue but I must go.
That is cray-z.
However far Baseball-reference goes. Obvious caveats go with some of them (Johjima and Campanella could hardly be considered rookies in the same way as the others on the list).
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by Ott on Jul 6, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Fisk had 7.1 WAR in 1972. I assume he didn’t show up because he had plate appearances in 2 earlier season. 1972 was his rookie year though.
WWRWD?
Ah, yes, he slipped past my filters. I’m sure others did – I can’t find a tool on Baseball-reference to search only rookie seasons. First season is first season, as far as that index is concerned, even if it is only 5 at bats like Fisk’s.
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by Ott on Jul 6, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Counterargument:
Belt’s development may be hindered in an environment where he is superior to the competition and isn’t able to work on things that he needs to work on in order to properly develop.
That is cray-z.
While the results have been fantastic, I don’t think half a season above A ball is enough of a sample to clearly demonstrate superiority to the competition.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I shouldn't have said that
Simply providing the possibility that he may do more good in the MLB than the AAA, with no supporting evidence at all, as I can’t delve into the psychological impacts of what level a player is at.
That is cray-z.
True.
It used to be that players got a LOT of AB’s (or innings if they were pitchers) before coming up. To come up before a player is ready can certainly impact their development.
As for confidence and performance – are there truly folks out there that don’t think confidence can impact performance?
Yes, I think there are people who look at players as statistical arrays to be plugged into a lineup equation and discount intangibles like confidence. I think I unfairly lumped thehavenot in with them.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
I don’t doubt its significance. But if a player is meddling in AAA for what he feels is longer than he deserves not a possible confidence-killer?
Not saying I believe this, as Belt has spent very little time in AAA (we’re talking about Belt right?), but that’s the problem here, you can pick either side and possibly be right or wrong.
That is cray-z.
I haven't given up hope
I just think that it’s not a good bet that Belt replacing Huff for the rest of this season is going to be a significant improvement. Huff’s numbers since May 1 are .262/.313/.404 which seems sustainable. Belt seems to still need some adjustment to major league pitching and to me he seems unlikely to beat that line by much if at all.
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Maybe not
But as terrible as he’s been in his 67 PAs in the majors, he still has a higher OBP (and wOBA) than Huff this year. The bar is really low, unfortunately. I really don’t understand Huff. How does I guy have four consecutive seasons with wOBAs of .387, .297, .388, and .293? That is inconsistency raised to an art form.
Maybe he has an identical twin brother who plays every other year.
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by Prussian Creole on Jul 6, 2011 12:46 PM PDT reply actions
Crazy talk
As long as current GMs and owners remain in charge, the Giants won’t make a noticeable trade with the Dodgers or the Athletics. Likewise, there’s no way the Reds are going to trade their #2 catcher to SF this season.
Since the Giants aren’t going to take on a ton of salary, and the Dodgers aren’t going to send any more than a pocketful of money to any team in a trade this summer, the Giants will not trade for Furcal. Jamey Carroll is a possibility, because of his 1 year contract, but other teams are going to want him more than the Giants. If Sabes turned up his nose at Mark Ellis then why would he give up anything good for Carroll?
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I'd trade Adrianza for Carroll
Maybe throw in a mediocre pitching prospect, even. I’d weep a little if we fed Neal to the blue beast.
I don’t want Uribe unless it’s a salary dump for us, and I don’t want the shattered corpse of Rafael Furcal.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 6, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions
Eckstein is Carroll for less
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This.
Getting giddy with excitement over Dodger leavings…makes one think.
Oh, those halcyon days gone by when being on the Giants, much less in the starting lineup, was an exclusive club, available only to those who were descended (or at least partially blessed) from Mt. Posey.
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Crap
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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jul 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It might be time for Agent Ned to ship us Matt Kemp for a (Vogel)song.
Then we can all watch the ’87 NLCS together as friends.
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Vladimir Guerrero: 250 intentional walks
Guerrero is only one away, although what makes this tricky is that he is bad now and no longer worth walking on purpose. Still, you figure it’ll happen eventually, maybe when the opposing team needs to set up a force. Guerrero is actually fourth all-time in intentional walks, ahead of Ken Griffey Jr. and a closing Albert Pujols. He is 11 behind Willie McCovey, 44 behind Hank Aaron, and 439 behind Barry Bonds. I don’t think people really appreciated the whole Barry Bonds experience at the time.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
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He is 11 behind Willie McCovey, 44 behind Hank Aaron, and 439 behind Barry Bonds. I don’t think people really appreciated the whole Barry Bonds experience at the time.
It did seem like he got IBB’d in nearly every PA for awhile there, but wow. That’s a lot.
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by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Between 2002 and 2004 he had as many intentional walks as Vlad Guerrero has had in his career.
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related
He was IBBed 120 in 2004, which, standing on its own, would be good for 79th all time.
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by free f.p. #14 on Jul 6, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just about to post something similar to this
120 walks, period, would be fantastic.
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In 2004 Bonds not only walked 232 times, the major league record for a season, but his 120 IBBs would have been 4th in the majors for walks just by themselves.
Could you imagine Bonds on this Giants team?
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Uh
The 2011 Giants are a better team than the 2007 Giants were. The pitching staffs weren’t even close.
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he would be secretly wiping the clear and cream on the players locker room towels
trying to get these mofos to hit like real men.
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by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Could we? I mean, he hasn’t officially retired yet, right?
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll always be grateful that I got to see the most dominant hitter of all time.
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You saw Babe Ruth?
:) No one dominated like the Babe. Remember, he hit more HR’s one year than any other TEAM hit in the AL.
I think there is a real argument to be made for Ruth as best hitter ever
But I’ve never liked that point being brought up as a support of this argument. Ruth revolutionized the game. He changed the game. That is significant. But just because he hit more homeruns than entire teams didn’t mean he was that much better than them. They simply didn’t try to hit homeruns back then.
Once Ruth started hitting those homeruns, others started hitting just as many. And it just took a couple of years. Soon there were other homerun sluggers like Foxx, Gehrig, Wilson, Simmons, etc.
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Yep. He redefined what a middle of the order guy was.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
There was nothing illegitimate about the competition
It was the same competition they all faced in those days. And Ruth dominated it. Further, it wasn’t Ruth’s fault that MLB barred blacks back then. In addition, the only PED’s Babe took were beer and hot dogs.
And if there ar those of you that acutally believe Babe was just a fat guy taht hit HR"s go look at his numbers. Pay particular attention to 1919. That year he led the league with 29 HR’s. By the way, he was also 9-5 with a 2.97 ERA . Admittedly his peripherals were poor.
Unfortunately, that grotesque movie with John Goodman is what some think of when they think of Ruth. Not the case.
He was referring to the marital status of their parents.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
In addition, the only PED’s Babe took were beer and hot dogs.
Sheep hormones.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
And cocaine!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
It was the same competition they all faced in those days.
And that’s why players from that era don’t deserve to be compared to the players in today’s era, or any other era for that matter. This is a matter of opinion sure, but I’m never going to compare Babe Ruth to Willie Mays to Barry Bonds.
That is cray-z.
It's problematic comparing different eras, period
I don’t think holding the racism of the time against those players is necessarily fair, though.
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I'm not holding it against them
I simply find their accomplishments less impressive.
That is cray-z.
I guess. I just think it's hard to judge how the lack of non-white players affected the stats of the era
One thing I really wish we could have seen. Satchel Paige pitch a full career in the majors.
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um, no
Ruth is #2 on the all-time AB-per-HR list. Foxx, Gehrig, Wilson, and Simmons are #s 17, 35, 101 and 393.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
What's your point exactly?
Are you trying to say that those guys weren’t homerun sluggers because they didn’t hit as many as Ruth did per at bat?
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Oh, you must be responding to "others started hitting just as many"
Don’t take it too literally, please. They hit similar numbers of homeruns. That’s what I was saying.
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Truth
I am kind of happy that Zorak is back in the big leagues.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions
I’m happy that he’s not in the big leagues for SF.
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Well, that too. But I always think of the gif of him dancing in the background while the rest of the team celebrated and it makes me laugh.
Dude was good for a chuckle.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He was entertainingly unpredictable.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
This
Let him entertain Dodgers opponents’ fans for a while.
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by j14 on Jul 6, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
lol oh man this totally was my thought as well
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by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh
I’m fucking pining for Jamey Carrol. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SEASON?!
Why is 2011?
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OT: King Felix's Court (enjoyed this Grantland article immensely)
So there’s a guy in a jester outfit, juggling. And a quartet of teenagers wearing homemade crowns. And a senior citizen munching on a giant turkey leg. Clouds of smoke from a nearby grill invade your nose with the smell of cooking meat. And somehow we’re not at a Renaissance Faire.
Nay, good sire (or madam), we’re sitting behind the left-field foul pole at Safeco Field. That’s Section 150 — or as it’s known on days that Seattle Mariners pitcher “King Felix” Hernandez starts, “The King’s Court.” Pay $30 and you get a free “King” T-shirt, a large piece of yellow card stock with a blue “K” printed on it, and a seat that’s regularly $40 (also, regularly empty).
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6741983/the-king-court
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Speaking of Grantland
with the exception of the anti-sabermetrics article, I’ve really like what they’ve done so far. This Klosterman interview with Bill James is fantastic
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by free f.p. #14 on Jul 6, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I like it
but I’m not really sure what it’s supposed to “be”. It just seems this weird mismatch of long features that probably could have been on ESPN.com (except for the swear words) and some pop culture stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with sports.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I’m sure that it will gain some direction over time. It just started like a month ago right? I think they just need some time to get their feet under them and a routine going, and direction will follow that.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
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by free f.p. #14 on Jul 6, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
Simmons even said in his little opening intro to the site that said it’s still evolving and what it is right now is not what it will ultimately be.
I think it needs to increase its content output
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Really?
I feel just the opposite. Maybe it’s that I’ve been really busy at work lately (witness me posting here right now, LOL), but the sheer number of ‘deep thinking’ pieces that Grantland is putting out every day (in addition to their shorter, easier blog posts) is overwhelming me.
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It’s McSweeney’s for sports geeks and I have to say, I approve.
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by LeMasterBlaster on Jul 6, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This
And, much as with McSweeneys, I find I don’t really end up reading it much. they need to do a “list” feature or some other weird short pieces.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
McSweeney’s Lists are a diamond in the rough that is the internet.
by MySpoonlsTooBig on Jul 6, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I tend to prefer Deadspin.
But that is because I am a bitter, sarcastic person.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad they fucked up their site and I can no longer read it. It was good for the scheudenfreude.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Yeah. All the Gawker media sites have failed pretty epically with the redesign.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
SO MUCH THIS
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Agreed
I dunno what Gawker was thinking. But chances are in another 4 months it will be redesigned AGAIN
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
The one thing I don’t like about Deadspin is the way they latch on to one person or team or story and just beat the crap out of it. Its like, I get it, Simmons can be an ass, he’s gone away from his roots, you don’t need to blast the guy every time he talks shit on Mike Tirico.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jul 6, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed. The hate-on they have for Grantland is pretty hilarious. Every week there is an article that basically says “Grandland sucks, why would anyone read it?” The message being, “Please read us instead of Grantland.”
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell. No.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (more often than I blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
So are you just going to troll now? Because that would make things surprisingly simple.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose the solution to being asked not to troll on one account is to make a new one to troll with.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
It’s a classic tactic.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not trolling. That was a funny joke
even if you don’t appreciate it.
Dane Cook said this.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, bro, you have a track record of trolling ;)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
"lass"?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
"orb"
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I am too, but when the option is Hall vs Burriss, one of those guys sucks significantly less than the other.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
yes you were, but...
how does a guy suck so fast? he was usable last year with the Red So……..
/stops himself as he opens the 2011 Giants media guide and sees pictures of Torres & Huff
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
True and that guy is Burriss
I’d release Hall today. Bring up Brett Pill (he can replace Hall on the 40 man roster) and use him as a right handed bat off the bench. Then you can send him or Burriss down when Fontenot is ready.
Bill Hall has been better than Burriss in every single season that they were in the big leagues, including this season.
That is cray-z.
Don't give a damn what Hall did several years ago
or even last year. He’s awful. so is burriss of course. But at least he is also awfully fast. They need the speed. As hard as it is to admit this, Tejada at second is the best option right now. How scary is that?
no thanks
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Can this officially be classified as the worst promotion of all time?
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
If they start lobbying for videos, yes.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it would be fun if there was some kind of “I’m not the father” controversy.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
Only if Maury Povich is involved.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Jerry Springer!
Two “fathers” get in violent dispute over alleged paternity and break a leg off of the table and start hitting each other.
Brian Sabean: “Stop! Stop!, can you teach our hitters to do that??”
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
OT - Spoiler
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Wambaugh scores 2-1 Sweden
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Fake injury time!
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I take full responsibility for reading a sports blog when I have a game recording on the DVR…but damn you sir!
Pablo's not fat. He's just got body.
by LeMasterBlaster on Jul 6, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
They are through [US] to the next round anyway regardless of the score, yes?
Though I did hear something about “avoiding Brazil.”
A draw would have let them play Australia, the loss means they play Brazil.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus Christ ESPN
ESPN today will announce that baseball analysts John Kruk and Nomar Garciaparra will call its Home Run Derby coverage on Monday alongside returning host Chris Berman (USA TODAY, 7/6).
Are you actively trying to get me to not watch?
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
What an exciting announcement.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank god for ESPN's "live across all time zones" edict
It means I can miss the whole thing, starting Monday night at 5pm!
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I actually kind of like Nomar
but with those two I don’t think he could get 1 word in during the entire broadcast.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
What about Tom Goodwin!??!!?!?!???!?!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
My cat’s breath smells like cat food.
Shake n bake!!!
by TehGreekStallion on Jul 6, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering where everyone went.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
YES! I knew one of Demel's flat sliders would get smashed!
3-1 MIL on a 3-run home run from Casey McGehee.
But they're playing the Diamondbacks who are 1.0 game behind the Giants in the standings
and who had a 1-0 lead for most of their game against the Brewers.
We are all Brewers fans today.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
No we aren’t. We do, however, welcome the news of a division rival losing its game.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Speak for yourself! Love that infield.
What with… um.
Fielder #2, Weeks #2, Betancourt #2, and Mat #2.
Love it!
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
What's wrong with the Brewers?
Selig connection?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Man, I was trying to be all poetic and shit. I actually like the Brewers – the whole not winning and being from the Midwest thing gets me. Not a huge Cubs fan though. Whatever, contradiction is contradiction.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
LaTroy Hawkins is pitching for the Brewers.
Yikes. Didn’t know he was still in the majors.
Wilber Bucardo: Missing?
Me neither
I always kinda liked him….certainly more than most Giants fans
The thong is, it happened.
So
You didn’t have a burning hatred of him, then.
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 6, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Rosterbating question
What would the Blue Jays ask for in exchange for Yunel Escobar (assuming they’d be willing to trade him, which they probably aren’t)?
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
They *just* signed Escobar to an extension
that was very team-friendly. There’s zero chance they’re going to trade him.
Yeah, from what I read, he’s getting along pretty well in Toronto.
They are very happy together.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Pretty sure they just extended him
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Swedes win...the Swedes win
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Olbermann is currently making an ass of himself on twitter.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Olbermann making an ass of himself.
Huh.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Post examples, please.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
http://twitter.com/keitholbermann
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
just pick your poison!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
LOL winz
KeithOlbermann Keith Olbermann @
@Zach_James Vogelsong is tied for 29th in the
majors in wins. It’s a sweet story, but he shouldn’t have made the first cut. Sorry.
18 minutes ago
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
More
Over Kevin Correia? With 11 wins? Seriously?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
KeithOlbermann @KimSherayko By that logic, why isn’t the entire Giant rotation on the All-Star team? And the relievers?
In response to her telling him about their poor run support.
/facepalm
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I could have said a lot of things about Keith Olbermann before this, but I would never have thought that he was completely incapable of critical thinking.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Is he trolling?
He’s gotta be trolling, right?
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
My new favorite
@DamnTrue Yes, let’s get back to the deciding factor: is he a Giant!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Heh. I like @DamnTrue.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jul 6, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
He has to stick with wins or else Phil Hughes getting picked last year makes no sense… he’d have to admit Girardi was a total homer last year (even to the point of of snubbing Ortiz and losing the game rather than have A-Fraud pinch run).
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He actually said that Jeter doesn’t deserve it, and doesn’t even deserve to be a starting SS. So, there’s that.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He's still probably sore from King Felix winning the Cy Young
13-12 WTF!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
KeithOlbermann Keith Olbermann
@
@Pardeezy The AL CY vote last year was also pathetic. To some degree a pitcher’s won-loss record IS his responsibility.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Keith really from Sweden or something? I don't think
he even knows how baseball works.
He made the first cut?
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
I’m digging this idea, actually. Make the all-star game sort of like whittling down the roster at the end of spring training.
I have no idea how that’d work, but I think it would be fun!
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
It always is the deepest.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Sing it, Sheryl Crow.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
(Note: I know this is not a Sheryl Crow song. Rod Stewart, duh.)
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess this probably way too obvious a troll, huh?
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
He did.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I know my calculus.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
protip: If Rod Stewart is singing it, someone else likely wrote it.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
For example, Morning Dew
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
And also: Broken Arrow
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Rod Stewart does Morning Dew?
Jesus I hope not. That is my faovrite Dead song.
Rod Stewart gave up a promising soccer career to sing.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Soccer career - Rock singer
Other than Emperor, I can’t think of too many more gigs that embrace drunken carousing as well.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
But he definitely got it pregnant.
/joke based on vague recollection that Rod Stewart has a lot of kids
Eight children with five women!
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Ew, one was born this year.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
His oldest child is 48 years older than his youngest.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s an even bigger discrepancy than Clint Eastwood. And while Eastwood has the distinction of being married to a woman only three years older than his youngest child, Stewart is actually married to a woman eight years younger than his youngest child. 0_0
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I aspire to such greatness.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
So she’s -7 years old?
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoops. Put oldest wherever it makes sense. /i knew I was going to do that.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you meant "...than his oldest child".
If his youngest child was born this year, and his wife is eight years younger…never mind cradle robbing, that’s gleam-in-the-eye robbing.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Forever young.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
"Ew"
Should be reserved for the acts of Bill Wyman if we are discussing old English horndogs.
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
On 2 June 1989 Wyman married 18-year-old Mandy Smith, whom he had been dating since she was 13. Their relationship was the subject of considerable media attention. The marriage ended in spring 1991, although the divorce was not finalised until 1993.17 In 1993, while Wyman was still married to Smith, Stephen, his son from his first marriage, became engaged to Smith’s mother.
A little quick math… his son is, who married his mother in law, was 8 years older than his wife.
I don’t even.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
"Ew"
Saw the Rolling Stones at the Oakland Coliseum on Halloween 1994 and for the encore Mick Jagger ripped off his top coat to reveal a t-shirt featuring the scandalous cover of “OK!” magazine making fun of the Wyman clan. (It was obviously their first tour without Bill Wyman.)
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Would be cooler if it was five children with eight women.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone who disagrees with him is just a pathetic, entitled, delusional Giants fan!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
What are we entitled to? What is our sense of entitlement causing us to demand? That part confuses me.
We’re entitled to having players on the All Star team, I guess.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
That's all the first place Giants deserve!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Right? You’d think they were in last place and had ended the season in last place for the last 5 seasons.
I think the bottom line is that he does not believe he is capable of being wrong, and he’s lashing out becuase he knows, somewhere deep down, that he’s probably wrong.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
KeithOlbermann OK, OK, I’m wrong: Vogelsong’s an All-Star. In fact, the entire Giants team should represent the NL. They’re the wonderfullest!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Nice strawman.
Zero credibility.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Hello, Dolts!
Grant likes Olbermann because he pimped out one of his OTHER BLOG posts. So good McCovens should stand down now!
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Keith is using WINZ
Your argument is invalid.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course he’s being sarcastic. But he took people telling him, “Giants pitcher W-L records aren’t very good because of their offense” and turned it into, “Well, then the whole team should be on the All Star team!” which is a strawman. No one’s saying the whole team should be All Stars.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Right, if anyone was saying that, it’d be an easy argument to dispute. The REAL argument he’s trying to dispute isn’t as easy for him to explain away.
The whole, “by that logic, the entire bullpen and all the starters should be in the All Star Game, too” argument was possibly worse, though. Wow.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
awww
didn’t scroll down.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
About time he got it right.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone should correct him:
it’s SUPER WONDERFUL
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I’m not even going to waste my time with his fail logic.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m talking about different ones altogether!
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m surprised that anyone is surprised.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The exciting thing about this trading season
I think it is highly unlikely that Sabean does nothing. The offense needs help.
But with Sabean, we could get anything. Do we get Shea Hillenbrand? Or do we get Ellis Burks?
The suspense is killing me.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Sabe’s ears just perked up. Burks is still available, you say?
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t realize he was that good.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
especially considering the era he played in. also, lefty batter!
pround son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Haller and Ed Bailey made up a fantastic platoon of strong hitting catchers for the Giants during the 60s
It was one of many reasons why those teams were so danged good.
And why their one world series appearance during the era is kind of a minor tragedy.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
more like a legit baseball tragedy
It resulted in a lot of Giants fans turning into cynics, then lowering attendances, followed by an aborted move attempt to Toronto. Interestingly, John Roseboro, Dodger catcher during that era, attributed the Giants string of second-place finishes to lack of bullpen depth.
pround son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
No trading with the enemy. Thanks!
Travis Denker/Mark Sweeney deal that did nothing for no one
Hey! BLB got a shady alibi for some amphetamines out of it!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 1:43 PM PDT reply actions
Mark Greeny
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He's the little girl with curls
When he’s good he’s good and when he’s bad he’s horrid. No consistency.
TRADE HIM FOR JONCHEZ
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Carroll
but that list is a whole lotta DNW.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I might even have second thoughts about Kemp
the dude can’t field for shiat.
With Uribe, Furcal and Blake all being huge injury risks this season, I really doubt the Dodgers wiil want to trade away Carroll or Miles
Runzler for Ethier!
Swap a Dodgers fan for a Giants fan.
Andre Ethier’s fave team: “Don’t tell any Dodger fans, but I loved the San Francisco Giants as a kid growing up.”
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
He doesn’t even like being on the Dodgers, does he?
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Oh, Andre.
I know how you feel.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I’ll only take him if he promises to wash the weasels out of his hair first.
The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Jul 6, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Should we exchange him for (the broken) Freddy? Then all their childhood dreams will be complete.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Ethier was kind of a white whale for me early last year
I’m not sure where he’d fit in now but we can make room for a 380 OBP.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He played one game at first last year.
That’s… that’s utility, right?
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Sep 15, 2010: Dodgers' Ethier reportedly would welcome trade to Red Sox
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jul 6, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
He welcomes a trade to Boston so he doesn't have to bring his glove to the ballpark
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
A scum-covered weasel who roots for the same team as me is still a scum-covered weasel.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
But Mota and Ross!
And Kelly, for that matter!
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
This topic is a typo away from turning, well, I guess this will be my last post on the subject.
That is cray-z.
What if the scum covered weasel started producing runs for the Giants? Would that rinse off some of the scum?
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He will go through the Brad Penny transformation.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember asking what the Maldonado slide looked like
Feet first slide, misjudged ball by 5+ feet, ridiculous bounce WAY over his outstretched glove.
I’ve been saying I would pay for the MLB video archive forever!
Candy gets a semi-pass
For being first on the scene after Ozzie Smith sucker punched Will.
The replay is priceless. Suddenly the screen is filled with raging Maldanado.
This is correct
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
Brandishing a flying forearm
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
by fjm on Jul 6, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
And he is 75% less adorable than our hobbit.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I'm talking viable, fringe starting 2B
Burriss is not in that category. He’s Fontenot/Carroll minus everything, except a little (rapidly declining) speed.
Carroll has more OBP
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Did they ever say what was up with Reyes' leg?
I am starting to warm more to the idea of gunning for him.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
hammie
I do not think I want Sabean trading with Alderson for a top-tier rental.
by wcw on Jul 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This is where I am still hung up
I would only want the trade if they could work out an extension. Cause he’s gonna cost a lot.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Grant says he is made out of crackers.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
well I like crackers too.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Racist!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (more often than I blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
I SAID WHAT I SAID
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
YOU WERE FOCUSED
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Racist!
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
I tweet (more often than I blarg) | Your San Francisco Giants: "Together We're Broken!"
Biscuits > crackers
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
cookies > tarts
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Bros, Hoes.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
This is wrong.
Cupcakes are too hard to eat without getting frosting up your nose.
Biscuits, on the other hand, can be torn apart and filled with delicious buttery goodness. Or topped with gravy. My cardiologist says hi.
FUCK YOU
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 6, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Secondly, what does jponry say?
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Jponry says she pours milk into her Reyes’ and they always come out fluffy.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Getting him last year would have been great
Getting him this year (when he’s hitting over .350), not so much.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Apparently, tsumanis are on their way to New Zealand right now
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 2:30 PM PDT reply actions
I would say something about climate change, but I guess that’s still political.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
I’d be interested to read how you make the connection. But you’re right, no sex in the champagne room.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t even have champagne.
/stares at Starbucks
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They do if the ocean is already high due to everything melting. But yeah, earthquakes probably aren’t caused by climate change.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
I wouldn’t even qualify your 2nd sentence. They aren’t.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Rosenthal
The Dodgers, for all the uncertainty over their ownership, will not part with their most valuable pieces – center fielder Matt Kemp, right fielder Andre Ethier, left-hander Clayton Kershaw and righty Chad Billingsley.
Yet, according to major-league sources, the team might not even trade its most obvious candidates to be moved, right-hander Hiroki Kuroda and infielder Jamey Carroll.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Rotorueter
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m curious about how trades work when a team is in bankruptcy.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
My understanding is that can’t really take on payroll. Not that the Dodgers would anyway.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
My knowledge about bankruptcy suggests that even transferring a debt (ie, trading a player) would require court approval. And that stuff is slow in coming.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Would a team even want to bother trading with the Dodgers? Seems like you would have to jump through all manner of legal hoops in order to get the move sanctioned.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
They are in bankruptcy, but the league hasn’t taken them over……….yet.
Didn’t the Rangers have to get their trades approved by MLB when they were going through financial problems?
I believe this is what happens. Quick, call Selig – Rowand for Kemp, straight up.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Weren’t the Rangers in bankruptcy when the Molina trade happened? Or was it further along in the process?
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I seem to remember that the Ryan ownership group had already stepped in.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
They had.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Oh, okay. I thought there was still an issue with any trades that would cause the Rangers to have to send cash, but I must be misremembering.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Me, too. LOL.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Jamey Carroll
The Rockies reportedly didn’t even contact the Dodgers about Carroll before they traded for Mark Ellis. Obviously, for whatever reason, the Dodgers weren’t a viable trading partner for them. Maybe it’s because their a division rival, maybe it’s because of the Dodgers bankruptcy issues, etc.. I don’t know. He’s only making $1.8 million which means he’s not a finacial burden for them and therefore they don’t feel the pressure to unload his cost.
Other than the fact that he’s a Dodgers, he seems like the perfect choice for the Giants. He’s a veteran, who I’m sure is hungry to win, he’s playing well at a position/s that the Giants have holes at, he’s already friends with a current Giants(Affeldt), he’ a nice guy.
I think it makes perfect sense. It’s sad that it probably wont happen.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jul 6, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t realize Ellis went to Dingerville…when did this happen?
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Couple weeks ago. He has been hitting pretty well there.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly a week ago and a 273 OPS+!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a good thing we are only looking for RBI bats.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, to be fair, that’s a small sample and his career OPS+ is 96.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Anything is better than Burriss though.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Mark Ellis
He’s 11 for 22 with 2 HR’s.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jul 6, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Belated
LOL JOSE LOPEZ
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Occasionally it occurs to me that there's a game tonight
and I get a cold chill of dread.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Considering I am going tonight, I echo your feelings.
On the brightside, the D’Backs lost. So no matter what happens we can still shout “First Place!” afterward.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn. The one time I won’t be watching on TV….
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow that’s cool. TV booth, radio, or both?
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
TV
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
/is going to have to rush home from work
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Snakes lost. It is a house money game tonight.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
There is never "house money" with these Giants.
Before the last 7 games before the break, I said I would be disappointed if we didn’t finish 5-2 and have a 5 game lead over the D’bags. The D’bags (until today), were winning on the road. As customary for All Star hosting teams, they play a shitload of road games before the break, then make up for it with home games after the break. If you believe the home field advantage benefit, we need to bring our “A” game these last two Padres games, then beat up the Reyes-less Mets.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t wait until we play the 29-58 Astros. Who we will probably make look like the Phillies.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Downs will hit 7 home runs.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Remember when we played the "hot Florida Marlins" and the "new look Milwaukee Brewers"?
By the time the Snakes played these guys, they looked like the Astros.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Much like we are playing the “suddenly hot” Padres right now.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Get ready for some sizzling Carlos Lee action.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Hisanori Takahashi is in line to get the rare hold and loss combo.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Grant, the Candy "non catch" in 1987 was Game 6 of the NLCS in St. Louis, pre-dates the implementation of the NLDS
And yes, Maldonado had trouble with the low very catchable liner to right that he says he lost in the Busch Stadium lights. I believe he played the fly ball into a triple late in the game that ultimately materialized into the only run of the game and the Giants lost 1-0 and allowed the Cards to tie the series. In Game 7, if I remember correctly, The Giants were forced to start a broken down, over the hill Atlee Hammakker and the Cardinals destroyed the deflated Giants in Game 7 then went on to lose the WS to the Dan Gladden led Minnesota Twins who the Giants traded to the Twinkies right after Spring Training.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
Has any player ever had a better set of nicknames than Jeffrey Leonard……Hac-Man, One Flap Down, and
Penitentiary Face are all pretty vivid and unique.
by Stoned Slacker on Jul 6, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
and almost immediately out of baseball after the next couple of seasons.
It seemed like for awhile there, we were sending our castoffs to Seattle, i.e., Kevin Mitchell, Hac.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Breaking
Henry Schulman just started it up by tweeting it today.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jul 6, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of catchers. What’s the status of Max Ramirez?
You want to see a walk? Then go watch the mailman.
For the last couple of games
1B for the Grizzlies when Brandon Belt leaves the game.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
LOL
At Reds fans thinking he’s going to get offered arb.
Ramon Hernandez
The Reds are looking to improve their starting rotation and the Giants do happen to have one too many at the moment. Sanchez for Hernandez seems like a possibilty. Hernandez will actually be owed a little more than Sanchez for the rest of the season if a deal is done later this month.
Can someone tell me why Hernandez only catches half the games? Is it because of his age(35)?
How is his defense behind the dish?
He’s seems slow but his numbers at the plate are great, though he does play in a hitters ball park.
He’s a former Oakland A, so he’s played and lived in the area before. Getting former A’s with postseason experience seems like a common theme for the Giants.
by Grant_ME_MERCY on Jul 6, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez for Hernandez doesn’t seem worth it to me.
Check out www.catch-28.com. You will find a lot of fawning over Buster Posey and some Giants analysis that you could probably find anywhere else. I appreciate any and all feedback.
Agreed. They should throw in another player or two, say, Joey Votto and Jay Bruce. You know, a couple players who aren;t contributing right now, but have some upside.
by MySpoonlsTooBig on Jul 6, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Jamey Carroll makes some sense
the eyes too far apart thing, does freak me out a little. But in sports, there is clearly a benefit of having eyes on the side of your head. It worked for Sam Cassell in basketball.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:25 PM PDT reply actions
Did anyone catch the post game interview with Bochy last night?
Between scratching his head and furrowing his brow (classic look when a reporter asked him if he knew what Eli said to Matt right before the next pitch which Maybin hit for a triple), if it weren’t painful, it would be funny.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:31 PM PDT reply actions
How did Huff get left out of the HR derby competition?
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:36 PM PDT reply actions
Stupid popularity contenst. ::shakes fist::
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Commence MCC freakout
SFGiants San Francisco Giants
Tonights #SFGiants lineup: Torres cf, Crawford ss, Sandoval 3b, Huff 1b, Tejada 2b, Schierholtz rf, Rowand lf, Stewart c Bumgarner p
Considering injuries, not the worst line up ever.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jul 6, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, it is. Rowand is hitting against a RHP, while Burrell is on the bench.
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I don’t care. He could play with one arm and be more useful than Rowand.
Check out www.catch-28.com. You will find a lot of fawning over Buster Posey and some Giants analysis that you could probably find anywhere else. I appreciate any and all feedback.
My understanding was that Burrell’s injury is very minor and that he is available to play. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Check out www.catch-28.com. You will find a lot of fawning over Buster Posey and some Giants analysis that you could probably find anywhere else. I appreciate any and all feedback.
He’s confined to pinch-hitting, per Boch.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
He was confined to pinch-hitting BEFORE the injury per Bork
PtB is one of the few guys I have a shred of faith in to get a hit with men in scoring position.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The injury has been present for a while, but I don’t remember Bochy saying that. I do remember that Burrell’s playing time was being limited, around when Schierholtz was doing well/Torres came back, but I figured that that was part of figuring out who is nate schierholtz
before the Padres series
I liked what Nate had done for this team. The injury to PtB came at a bad time with our DH lineup last week and now with a need to have the threat of an occasional HR, is all but gone minus Pablo.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad he hasn't rewarded your faith this year
.180. Hopefully he’ll come around with RISP. He’s hurting right now. They pinch ran Cain for him the other night. Obviously he cant’ run.
I guess I was wrong.
Too bad Thomas Neal isn’t hitting well in Fresno. He probably wouldn’t swing and miss at every low and outside slider.
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I think Burrell is dealing with a bone spur in his foot. He can apparently PH, but not play the whole game. Same with Ross and his hammy – he can PH, but would be lifted immediately for a PR (so he’s kinda useless, too).
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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Running is problematic.
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Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Fortunately, we have someone that is useless except for pinch running on the roster!
That is cray-z.
Better than two of them....
/calling Darren Ford
That was the widely accepted appraisal.
But time—this being its job—passes, and I wonder how true those things remain. Surely neither condition can last very long (else they’d have been DLed). Burrell over Rowand would be so vast an improvement, but then, that’s been true for a long time. If Ross is still sore, I have no real problem with Schierholtz—the difference isn’t that great—but the Burrell/Rowand thing really gnaws.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I want to know how Tejada is better vs. RHP than Nate.
Check out www.catch-28.com. You will find a lot of fawning over Buster Posey and some Giants analysis that you could probably find anywhere else. I appreciate any and all feedback.
He’s not, but you gotta get that lefty-righty-lefty action in there! Yep! That’s how it works!
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Yes it is how it works
Nothing wrong with mixing righty-lefty. It is particualrly beneficial late in games. And as horrid as this sounds – Tejada has been hitting the ball much better as of late.
Tejada is on fire
you obviously missed batting practice
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
fuck the last 2 weeks
I want to know who is hot in the last 4 hours.
/rolls the footage from the batting cages
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hard to believe
but Tejada really is on a hot streak: 1.214, 1.054, .923 OPS over the last 7/14/28 days.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Y DO YOUZE GUYZ HATE TEJADA?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still trying to figure out what a Pinada is. Is it a kind of pinniped? Is it related to Michael Pineda? I’m confoozled.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU (AGAIN) [now with theme song]
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Lars, "hate" is a strong word.
when the Giants team BA was around .243, I admit, I hated Tejada. But now with the team BA hovering around .224, I have a newly found appreciation for Tejada.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Bringing his season OPS up to a gaudy .600.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure why Tejada is ahead of Schierholtz but I'm ok with this I guess
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Mixing up right and left
Otherwise you’d have Tejada, Rowand, Stewart and the pitcher. Also, I like the idea of splitting up Tejada and Rowand as both are bigger DP threats than Nate.
My favorite part is the "Bumgarner p"
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Meh
Deckchairs and all that. Tejada playing 2B is a little odd though.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Indeed.
Who bats is more important by far than where, but for what it’s worth, this might be a better arrangement of those nine men:
#Torres cf
xHuff 1b
Rowand lf
#Sandoval 3b
xSchierholtz rf
Tejada 2b
xCrawford ss
Bumgarner p
Stewart c
Who bats 3rd is less important than who bats 1, 2, & 4, and Sandoval has an especially high TB/PA ratio, which well suits him for #4.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
LOL NADS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Could be worse.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jul 6, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL PAT SUCKS
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
2017 Season???
oh right; forgot about Rownad’s 5-year club vesting option
"And you fueled and energized this group, all the way through the crazy month of September. And into what was an epic month of October, and what was one glorious day of November." - Kruk
I STILL HATE YOU FOR THAT 1987 NLCS NON-CATCH CANDY FUCKING MALDONADO
Sorry, I just had to say that.
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
channeling your adopted Giant?
"And you fueled and energized this group, all the way through the crazy month of September. And into what was an epic month of October, and what was one glorious day of November." - Kruk
Also my inner seven year old (having been born in 1980).
Glad to have the World Series win, but still waiting on my Kim Batiste bobblehead. GET OFF YOUR HANDS, GIANTS BRASS!!!!
Adopted Giant: Dave Dravecky, starting pitcher of the greatest regular-season game I've ever attended.
Dravecky pitched his ass off that series
ironically enough, I believe Kruk actually contributed in the 1987 NLCS, however, his career was all but over due to injury. I think the year before he won 20 games.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Krukow
I saw him pitch game 4 of that series, a complete game 4-2. Beautiful game, 57,000 fans.
Coincidentally, I also saw his 20th win the year before at Dodger Stadium. During that game, he did this funny thing where he had an injury mid-game, so he took a warm-up toss and threw it over the catchers head to the backstop; then he waved everyone off saying “I’m fine…” and proceeded on to win #20.
pround son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Krukow should have pitched game 7 over Hammaker
Atlee was way too mentally soft to throw that game.
a smoker? a joker? a midnight toker?
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, yes, he’s told that story several times. It’s always amusing.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
really? I’ve never seen or heard it mentioned since.
pround son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
I heard it a long time ago (2002 or 2003, probably), and I’ve heard other people make mention of it also, so I assume it’s been told multiple times.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
So...
..how was lunch?
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Tejada's last 2 weeks have been VERY good at the plate.
/SSS I know, but hot is hot.
/SSS I know, but hot is hot.
I love this line of reasoning.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm happy we agree that players can get hot over a short period of time
Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be a metric for it :(
No one ever says players can't get hot.
What people say is that we can’t tell when a hot streak/cold streak will end, so riding the hot hand shouldn’t be the only reason to start someone.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
So you preemptively pull a hot player out of the lineup
because “well, today may be the day that starts his 2-23 streak?” I don’t agree with that. As it applies to the Giants – the reason Tejada started at 2B over Hall was because Tejada is hot at the plate.
No. You play the better player.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
But even a month ago Tejada was better than Burriss/Hall. And in a month from now that will still be the case regardless of who’s in the hot streak.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
No, he isn't.
That was the point. The “better player” is the one whom history has shown to be the most likely to perform best. A coin that has come up heads 7 times in 10 tosses is very nice if you were wagering on heads, but its history makes it no more likely to come up heads the next time than any other coin. Players are like biased coins: some will come up heads more often than others, and it is those one needs to play, not the low-heads coin that just happened, by ordinary chance, to come up with a bunch of heads recently.
That is not abstract theorizing. Numerous thorough studies of “streaks” and “slumps” at both the team and the individual level have shown that being in the midst of a streak or slump has zero predictive power for the outcome of the next performance; what does have predictive power is the cumulative record of the performer (team or individual).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
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and yet Fontenot hit 3rd why?
/because he was hot
I think the reason Tejada started over Hall is the same as the reason Burriss started over Hall.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
But Burriss also sucks!
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t want to talk about shitty vs. shitty. /ignore
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by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I lol’ed.
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Of course, I could never actually ignore Howie.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
But you might wish him “Good Day!”
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 6, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m wondering why Hall is on the team. I smell a Garko.
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It does seem very Garkoesque
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
At least they didn’t give anything up for him.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Why keep him on the roster then? Seems dumb.
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Just a place holder for Grant to come back
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Basically. In case someone else gets injured. I mean, who is even next on the depth chart? Charlie Culberson? Brett Pill? Ryan Cavan?
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Right?
(Obviously, they’d call up Conor Gillaspite, but it was fun to make fun of our 2B depth in the minors for a second.)
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
*Gillaspie
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
No no
Gillaspite is what most fans have for him.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
He’s not very friendly, I will say that.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
My father in law met him a couple times
had nothing but nice things to say about him.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
My knowledge is based on a SSS, so take it with a grain of salt.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
As is mine.
But I will still take your salt
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Yours is certainly more credible than mine. :)
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I have the most credible salt in the valley.
Now I just need to work on my pumpkin patch’s sincerity.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
A roster spot
But that’s not much
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
You would think it’s not much, until you realize that the bench is a crappy catcher (take your pick), a guy with a bone spur who can’t play and can maybe PH, and a guy with a strained hammy that can’t play, but can maybe PH but has to promise to run to first base if he gets a hit, and Burriss.
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So he fits right in
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
We need to sprinkle some Furcal on that pile of hurt!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what makes me cry.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
EUGENIO VELEZ IS STARTING IN THE OUTFIELD FOR THE LOS ANGELES DODGERS #frabjousday
by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 6, 2011 3:57 PM PDT reply actions
His line for the night:
3 for 4, HR, 2B, 3 rbi.
Picked off 3 times, once at each base.
Ran down a fly ball in deep right field. However, he was playing left field and, after making the catch, collided with Ethier, breaking his nose. he then dropped the ball, picked it up, dropped it again, threw it into the stands (there were only 2 outs), retrieved it (getting punched by one of thoe huge, plastic, beer-holding fists in the process) then ran to 2nd base, finishing with a perfect hook slide and declaring himself “safe”.
If he could keep it up the entire season (TWSS) it would be the greatest con of all time.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I agree. However, I guess that answers the seemingly gnawing question
as to why he plays so much.
Because the Giants put a lot of stock in microsplits?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If by that you mean that it is a short term variation in productivity with no predictive value, then yes.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t have a use, though. You can’t use it. It’s already been used, and it’s a one-use only product.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
In the land of random data points
I choose yesterday.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather not rely on a hitter who is lousy
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
You wouldn't run a below average player out
there who has one of the hottest hitters on the team?
Playing Rowand’s hot streaks is a good way to get 257 plate appearances out of him at .247/.304/.357.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Tejada and Rowand are playing because everyone better is hurt.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Nope
Because rather than the last 2 weeks or whatever, I would rely on a sample greater than that.
And I would be right more than you.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no qualms about ‘benching’ a ‘hot player’. Since being a ‘hot player’ is transitory and the end point is unknowable, it’s not a problem. I would like for playing time not to be doled out on the basis of microsplits.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Were I manager, I would always play the hot hand.
Also, I like to buy my stocks right AFTER they jump in price.
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I'm as tall as Mel. Why can't I hit 500 home runs?
by Ott on Jul 6, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That seems to be in agreement with what I said, so okay.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
What is toilet paper?
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Play dead!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Look upthread.
Though I reckon you are just trolling, if you really are confused about it, there is an explanation up at the last mention you made of this. But I remain inclined to the “troll” theory.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
the OBP is very out of character
but appreciated
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Yeah he’s had a few nice AB’s recently that ended in walks.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Out slugged by his OBP
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Bringing his season-long OPS to a gaudy .660.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Why do people still write unoriginal dreck like this? And why do I still occasionally go to the Daily Beast? That site is horrible.
I guess this dude never heard of the Giants.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
the anti-Jamey Carroll
would not hit. Eyes are too close together and on the same side of the head, unlike Carroll.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
arms entirely too short
would lead to Chuck Knoblauch like throws into the dugout. A fluke indeed.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLORADO!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:20 PM PDT reply actions
In other "WTF" related news
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
by scout6 on Jul 6, 2011 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I can see the pixels.
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Niemann
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLORADO X2!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:23 PM PDT reply actions
SIRM
Cabrera scored, Hafner to second on Martin throwing error.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:30 PM PDT reply actions
Jacoby Ellsbury. I like his game.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
I really like the name Jacoby, too.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
His parents branded him with a Bochy nickname.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s Jacobish.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Imagine if Brook Jacoby had a son and named him Jacoby.
You’d really like that person.
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
What if Coco Crisp married a gal named Coco?
They’d be Coco Crisp x2!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd really hope she had a dog
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I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
LOLORADO X3!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:33 PM PDT reply actions
lol zito
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Jordan Schafer looks very smooth playing CF. Stupid Braves.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions
Off to the yard—enjoy Buster on TV if youre tuning in!
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
I’ll wave to you through the magic of interactive television.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 6, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Why the hell can't the Giants keep the bat in their hands?
I guess I missed this last night (didn’t get to watch the whole game). Panda sent a woman to the hospital? Sheesh.
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I lol'd.
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by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Would it be worth getting hit in the head with a bat
to have Panda visit you in the hospital?
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
No.
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Sure, but only if more hits (of the baseball variety) were forthcoming.
I’ve been hit in the head many times. I caught fast pitch softball for ten years and wore only a mask, cup, and chest protector, no helmet or shin guards.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You must have never had a concussion.
They suck.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
I’ve had several and I think breaking bones is worse.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He shook his surgically repaired hand after the swing…
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by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A: Actually working today
what did I miss?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Keith Olbermann thinks the Giants are classless, vile
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Desperate homerism.
Pathetic. Embarrassing.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Why did Kevin Correia have a 5.40 ERA last year if he was such an All star?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
BUT HE HAS 11 WINS.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
"Things I never thought I'd see #47783: Schwarzenegger applauding Ryan Rohlinger" -- Your mother, Nov. 3, 2010.
by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you
for the “YAY FOR STRAWMEN!” tweet. I actually LOL’d.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
I wasn’t surprised that Olbermann is a pompous, egomaniacal douchebag, but I was surprised at how bad he was at making an argument.
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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by kdl on Jul 6, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Correia was not an all-star last year
pround son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
that was not what i was saying
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Correia used to be a Giant
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
Jponry makes fuffly eggs
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
fluffy too
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The first intrigued me. The second not so much, though I do want eggs now.
I feel prickishly demanding!
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by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually like Keith Olbermann in plenty of ways
…and I completely appreciate the passionate manner with which he loves The National Pastime.
But I linked to his assessment of Vogelsong’s All Star choice, and the McCoven absolutely beat him down on the twitterz today.
Funny, as I’d linked to his NL West prediction blog on at least a couple other occasions (LOL spam) and while it got a bit of a reaction, his words about Vogey apparently was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back.
Hilarity ensued.
Have a great night folks! I’m off to the game!
Where have you gone John Johnstone?
insane inane profane tweets
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jul 6, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, well
It’s Olbermann
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLORADO X5!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions
OT: Poll
who is the better GM: Sabez or Towers?
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jul 6, 2011 5:05 PM PDT reply actions
Trying to gauge Towers
is like gauging Beane.
SD win once every ten years of so but largely because of payroll. However, it’s really hard to assess how good he is since he never sign big free agents. Omar Minaya was great as the Expos GM but a disaster as the Mets GM.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Wiki
At the time of Minaya’s arrival in Montreal, the Expos were jointly owned by the 29 other teams of Major League Baseball. This unusual ownership arrangement was reached after a period of contraction rumors and the purchase of the Florida Marlins by former Expos owner Jeffrey Loria. With the fanbase rapidly declining and speculation that the team would be relocated, Minaya was forced to work with limited financial resources. Despite these limitations, Minaya was aggressive in his attempt to make the Expos a contender. On June 27, 2002, he traded Cliff Lee (future Cy Young winner and 2 time All-Star), Grady Sizemore (future 3 time All-Star, 2 time Gold Glove winner, and Silver Slugger), Brandon Phillips (future All-Star and two time Gold Glove winner) and Lee Stevens to the Cleveland Indians for Bartolo Colón. On July 11, he acquired Cliff Floyd from the Marlins only to deal him to the Boston Red Sox for Sun-Woo Kim and a minor leaguer by the end of the month. The 2002 Expos ended up with an 83-79 record and second place in the National League East.
After another 83-79 record and the departure of star Vladimir Guerrero in 2003, the Expos went 67-95 in 2004 amid reports that their future in Montréal would soon end. When it was announced that the Expos would relocate to Washington, DC for the 2005 season, Minaya learned that with the move would come a new front office and coaching position.
The half-season rental of Bartolo Colón made by Minaya made as General Manager of the Expos is part of arguably one of the worst trades in history, as it included the 2008 AL Cy Young Award winner in Lee and future All-Stars Brandon Phillips and Grady Sizemore. Minaya also dealt away a number of other young players that went on to enjoy significant success upon reaching the major league level. These include:
Jason Bay (2004 Rookie of the Year, All-Star in 2005, 2006, & 2009, Top 25 in MVP Voting 2005 & 2006)
Carl Pavano (2004 All-Star and Cy Young Award candidate)
Chris Young (pitcher) (2007 All-Star)
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Is this where I come to talk about C**d B******sley without fear of reprisal?
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
No that’s www.GalootFetishChronicles.com
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
oh brandon, no.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I’m sorry. He just seems so earnest.
Now I feel like I’ve disappointed you greatly.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
(he’s on my pokemons… shhhhh)
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Curd Blambersley?
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jul 6, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a Scottish dessert.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Grant's team of llama lawyers are drawing up a cease and desist as we speak.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
When things go wrong in the courtroom, it can get a little hairy.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Grant has nothing to worry about
It kinda sounds like one of Grant’s ideas, but if he’d written it at least a few of them would have turned out funny.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
AmyGGiants Bochy said Belt has played 1B the last 2 gms w/Fresno, but he will play OF & said “it won’t be long b4 we make a move with him” #sfgiants
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
How far away is September?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Friday, Friday
Belt’s gotta come up on Friday
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Which side of the bench will he sit on?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The sunny side?
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 6, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Friday, Friday
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Grab your hat and grab your bat,
Leave your worries in the dugout,
Life can be so great,
On the sunny side of the break.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 6, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s Friday, I’m in Love?!
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Who sells good soft tacos in our whereabouts, ggf?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not a big taco fan, but I always go with Los Panchos for best mex over here
pround son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Gracias
I’ll check it out.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
In Concord?
They are probably the best around
Carter Jurica!
"Has anyone really been for even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
by GrahamCrakalaka on Jul 6, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I just totally pigged out on deep fried sweet potatoes from Thai House.
yum, but full.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
FUN FACT
The first All-Star Game was held 78 years ago today, July 6, 1933. Calvin Coolidge, sadly, was not in attendance that day. Mainly because he’d been dead for more than six months by that point.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
At Comiskey. AL won 4-2. Bill Terry went 2 for 4. A man named General Crowder pitched the middle three for the AL. Hubble did the same for the NL.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 6, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Aww this was much better when I thought his name was "General Chowder"
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
I know . . .
but for a pitcher with only vague control of the strike zone . . .
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jul 6, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
You almost made me choke on a cookie.
You hilarious jerk.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
That was a fun fact, until you got to that whole dead guy thing. Way to kill the mood. Jeez.
I feel prickishly demanding!
I couldn't be prouder of my recent adoptee - Tim Lincecum's dealer. He provides the secret fuel behind both Cy Youngs. Also, he taught Timmy the change-up.
by giantsfansince1981 on Jul 6, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
thank god for subject lines
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that a bizarro Washington hat?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Poor Grace
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Because this story always makes me laugh
During the first game of the 1924 World Series which
featured the local Senators versus John McGraw’s New York
Giants, the president, never one to idle time on
entertainments, suddenly stood up to leave. Washington had
never been in a World Series before. The immortal Walter
Johnson was on the mound. It was the ninth inning, the score
knotted at 2-2. Grace Coolidge sputtered, “Where do you
think you’re going? You sit down,” as she grabbed his coat
tails.
The chief executive sat right back down.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
The Letter2
The House Appropriations Committee just killed funding for the James Webb Space Telescope.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions
WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL
This has been a terrible week for the space program.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
The project was overbudget and had it's problems
But it was closer to finished than not. This decision is really shortsighted. Penny wise pound foolish.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not familiar with the project. What is it?
Check out www.catch-28.com. You will find a lot of fawning over Buster Posey and some Giants analysis that you could probably find anywhere else. I appreciate any and all feedback.
JWST was supposed to be the successor to Hubble. It would see primarily in infrared wavelengths, and would be geared toward study of extremely old objects in the universe.
Not unlike the surface of Jack McKeon.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Thanks!
You type faster than I do. =)
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s the end of the American manned space flight program. Atlantis’ launch on Friday will close a fifty-year period of space exploration in this nation’s history. Oh, but that’s okay. Richard Branson will save us all.
Just burns my toast, is all.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Oh, right lol
I’m a project engineer for the solid rocket boosters. I guess I was too close to it to know what you were talking about :)
I thought you meant maybe NASA announced some other cancellation this week. I’m hanging by a thread hear hoping our company gets a slice of the Heavy Lift Vehicle they plan to announce this week.
Is that HLV in any way going to utilize the research or development put into the Constellation program? Or is it a clean slate?
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
It should use a ton of the Constellation work, at least as far as the boosters are concerned. Unless NASA decides to go away from 5-segment and back to 4-segment. Or (gasp) goes with an all new liquid boosters, which means a different company than mine. It would also mean starting from scratch if they switch gears. The Ares (Constellation 1st stage) is delivering its final design to NASA this week and finishing the contract. Hopefully it just starts transitioning into the delta design for Heavy Lift.
As far as the rest of the vehicle, it would still use the Orion capsule which never has stopped work. Upper stage design would be lagging behind.
HAHA
MLBNetwork MLB Network
MLB Tonight at 9 ET w/Greg Amsinger, Tom Verducci & Larry Bowa as they discuss rising amount of erections this season.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
And it's fixed already.
Ross on Halladay: "I’d tried everything against him…going the other way, taking pitches, trying to walk…and nothing worked. I’d never tried going up there and just trying to hit a home run off him."
My boy has mad hops
I rant on Twitter
Bay City Ball(Chris Quick): What’s in a fastball?
http://www.baycityball.com/2011/07/06/whats-in-a-fastball/
Great posting with GRAPHS!
NOBODY TELL XANTHAN
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jul 6, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
HIDDEN GRAPHS!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it okay to trade with LA?
There HAS to be some way to get Eugenio Veliz back!
Time to repeat in '11!
I may have asked this before, but what happened to JIM THOME?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
No, not Jim Thome. I mean JIM THOME.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
something happened to Thome? today?
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Braves guys are begging for people to go to the yard.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jul 6, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions
people aren’t excited about Brooks Conrad BobbleGlove promotion day?
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Why dont people go? It’s not like they have a bad team… weather? ball park? Are they one of those teams still playing in an airplane hangar?
I’ll go with weather. Also, many near-misses regarding the World Series, so apathy?
pround son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
It’s hot as balls, and Atlantans are notorious for not supporting local franchises. That’s why next year, we’ll be talking about the Edmonton Braves.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Their park is pretty nice from what I've seen
I LOVE YOU BASEBALL GODS!!!!!
I promise that my adopted Giant, one Zach Wheeler, will not shoot anybody.
It’s the old Olympic stadium that they converted.
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
perhaps the inaccessibility of the stadium via public transit account for some of it? (that was one complaint a guy visiting SF from Atlanta told me at the bar a couple of months ago)
Bruce Bochy: Leave him alone, he's the Manager Man and his BORK is much worse than his bite.
by zodiac_chiller on Jul 6, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
don't get cropped
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2011/7/6/2263348/open-gamethread-7-6
pround son of greatgiantfan; b. Apr 29, 2009, d. Jul 30, 2010.
Never thought I'd read this...
Uribe strengthens the Dodger defense when he plays third base, but at the plate, he’s been giving a lot of that back.
Yes, please.
A notarized document that erases Orel Hershiser and Duke Snider from the Giants’ all-time roster in exchange for exclusive rights to Juan Marichal.
Also, can we forget that whole “attempt to trade Jackie Robinson to the Giants” episode ever happened?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jul 6, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions
Props to Orel
Hershiser really turned me around on my attitude about him once he became a Giant. It had nothing to do with his success on the field, it had to do with the character he showed off it.
First, after players complained about crappy clubhouse food, he approached Bonds about the two of them picking up the tab for nicer stuff. Barry blew him off, so Orel sprung for it himself.
Second, I used to visit the Chinatown Y for community work, and that place was a dive. An obscure, forgotten dive that I expect no one gets good PR out of helping. But there was a plaque on the wall just inside the door thanking Orel for his generous contributions.
So I’m a Hershiser guy. But Steve Garvey and Russell Martin can still suck it.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
is that Schmidt for Kemp deal still on the table?
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Jul 7, 2011 12:05 AM PDT reply actions
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