minor lines, 7/29/11
Friday highlights from the Giants' farm: Eric Surkamp had 12 K and 2 ER in 6.0 IP, Shawn Sanford had 8.0 shutout IP, and Shane Loux allowed just 1 ER in 7.0 IP. Also notable, Jeff Arnold homered and singled.
AAA: Fresno defeated Salt Lake 3-2(after being tied 1-1 after the 7th inning)
Fresno: 1B Conor Gillaspie: 1 for 4, HR, GiDP
Fresno: 3B Mark DeRosa: 2 for 4, SO
Fresno: SS Nick Noonan: 1 for 3, HR
Salt Lake: C Hank Conger: 1 for 3, HR, BB (IBB)
Fresno: SP Shane Loux: 7.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K--1 HR
Salt Lake: SP Jerome Williams: 7.1 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 5 K--1 HR
Noonan had his 1st PCL HR, which was also his 4th HR this year. Gillaspie had his 8th HR. DeRosa was the lone Grizzly with two hits, raising his AVG to an even .300 in his eight PCL games on his current rehab stint. Conger, whom the Angels recently optioned back to the minors, had one of two solo HRs for the Bees.
Facing his former organization, Loux had one of his best starts of the year. Also facing his former orgnization, Williams, the ex-Giant, matched Loux with just 1 ER through 7.0 IP.
AA: Richmond defeated Trenton 3-2
Richmond: RF Francisco Peguero: 2 for 5, SO, GiDP
Richmond: 3B Chris Dominguez: 1 for 4, HR
Richmond: SP Eric Surkamp: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 12 K
Richmond: RP Heath Hembree: 1.1 IP, 2 K
Dominguez's 5th HR in the uppers minors provided the go-ahead run in the 8th inning. Peguero was one of three Flying Squirrels with two hits. He has been relatively cold since the all-star break, hitting just .239/.239/.324 in 71 AB.
Surkamp had another dominant start with 12 K, striking out nearly half his batters, although he did allowed 2 ER, which raised his ERA to 2.05. Hembree had 2 K in 1.1 perfect IP for his 11th save. This was his first appearance with a perfect inning in nearly three weeks.
A+: San Jose lost to Lancaster 8-5
San Jose: CF Gary Brown: 2 for 5
San Jose: 3B Juan Ciriaco: 2 for 3, 2B, BB, SO
San Jose: SP Michael Main: 0.1 IP, 4 H, 7 R, 6 ER, 1 BB, 1 K--1 HR, 1 BK
San Jose: RP Jose Valdez: 2.1 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 5 K
Brown and Ciriaco, the latter who was playing in just his 23rd game after spending a couple months earlier this year on the DL, each had a pair of hits.
Main retired just one of eight batters. Valdez, the second of four Giants relievers, struck out five of his ten batters, but his WHIP remains above 2.00 and his ERA at 7.50.
A-: Augusta defeated Hickory 5-0
Augusta: C Jeff Arnold: 2 for 4, HR, SO
Augusta: RF Devin Harris: 2 for 3, BB, SO
Augusta: SP Shawn Sanford: 8.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K--1 HB
Arnold had his 4th HR. He and Harris combined for four of the GreenJackets' seven hits, but both still have AVGs below .220.
Sanford faced just two batters over the minimum in 8.0 shutout IP. He had a 12/6 GO/FO line. With a 1.24 ERA in seven starts since the SAL's all-star break, the 20-year-old has lowered his season ERA to 2.36.
ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Yakima 10-7
Salem-Keizer: SS Joe Panik: 2 for 3, BB, HBP, SB
Salem-Keizer: LF Leonardo Ochoa: 2 for 4, HR
Salem-Keizer: SP Cameron Lamb: 3.0 IP, 10 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 0 BB, 3 K--1 HR
Ochoa had his 3rd HR. Panik reached base four times.
Allowing hits to more than half the batters he faced, Lamb saw his BAA rise above .300 and his ERA above 5.50.
R: Scottsdale had its regular off-day (every fifth day)
DSL: Giants defeated Yankees1 9-7
Dominican: 2B-3B Alberto Robles: 2 for 3, 2 BB, 3 SB
Dominican: RP Renzo Freite: 4.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K--1 HB, 1 WP
Robles (20.10 y.o.), the Gigantes' leading hitter reached base four times, raising his OBP to .474. Freite (18.6 y.o.) has allowed just an unearned run in 15.0 IP over his last four appearances.
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yes. but he's almost 23, not 20
supposedly has some velocity. peripherals unprepossessing, walk rate aside.
Thanks
oh, didn’t realize he was so old for Augusta. K rate at 5.5ish. nothing stands out
by Julian Levine on Jul 29, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ever since we traded Wheeler
I’ve been paying a lot more attention to the starters. We still have Surkamp.
I like Surkamp a lot.
Always have. Seems like he’s not too far off from joining the Giants rotation.
by Julian Levine on Jul 29, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Would love to see him pitch when rosters expand.
I wonder when he'll be called up to Triple-A..?
by Julian Levine on Jul 29, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to give him a taste of the PCL this year.
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there's certainly
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by natteringnabob on Jul 30, 2011 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions
not to mention Telephone park
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by foothillsfan on Jul 30, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
IMO, it’s very unlikely that he’ll pitch for Fresno this year. If he was going to be promoted he would have been there by now. Fresno is a horrible team this year, but Richmond is in a tight fight for the playoffs. The Giants really don’t see that there’s much difference between AA and AAA for their minor league pitchers, and they really want Richmond to have a successful season in their 2nd year with the new franchise.
I will be surprised if Surkamp isn’t in SF in September after Richmond’s season is done and the rosters are expanded. He’s not on the 40-man roster now, but he has to be put on it by the end of November or else we’ll lose him in the December Rule 5 draft.
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Surkamp
K/BB: 3.9
K/9: 11
anybody have the league average K/9 and K/BB for the EL?
according to b-r
K/BB: 2.34
K/9: 7.7
Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington. Will your team regret passing up on my boy 50 times?
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 30, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Love our kids, but a couple of them won’t be here in about 48 hours.
Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.
by rxmeister on Jul 30, 2011 7:00 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
anyone know what Surkamp's MLE is?
just thinking about Zito pitching at that bandbox tomorrow has me depressed.
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I am amazed that he is not yet 30. I believe with the right situation he could have had a Livan Hernandez career…….not get a lot of people out but work for a lot of years.
Go Giants
Latest on Surkamp
Surkamp is believed to have added a few miles per hour to his deceptive fastball as it’s now sitting 90 to 92 and not high 80s.
I have heard a lot of Ted Lilly comps, but their AA stats really aren’t all that close. With comparative innings pitched,
Surkamp
WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB ERA
1.123 7.3 0.3 2.8 11.1 3.89 2.05
Lilly
WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB ERA
1.352 9.2 0.6 3.0 7.7 2.59 3.30
As Surkamp’s fastball is deceptive, and his curve and his change are both plus, it’s hard to imagine a player with his control not pitching well in the bigs.
Thanks!
I’m getting really excited about Surkamp.
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That’s fantastic.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
caveat
Take a rumor for what it’s worth. I wasn’t at the park looking at a gun. I would imagine we’d have to hear a little more chatter about this until it’s substantiated. Still, whether it’s mostly about playing that fastball off a plus change or not, he’s getting a lot of swing through strikes on the fastball..
That’s just gravy; whether he is throwing harder or not, the results are still there.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Even if you were at the park looking at the gun
It wouldn’t be much more reliable. Minor league guns are pretty bad from what I’ve heard.
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I usually try to sit behind one of the scouts and snoop on their gun
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Wonder
If we could use him in the ‘Pen right now. The number of ridiculous K’s he puts up is reminiscent of Romo.
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he needs to keep starting
The potential upgrade of Mota to Surkamp wouldn’t enough to make it worth screwing with his development. If we had a desperate need for a lefty (like we did last year right before the trade deadline) it might be worth it, but we obviously don’t have that need.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess that Michael Main’s upside is still the fact that he’s not Bengie Molina. Oh well. It was worth it.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:34 AM PDT reply actions
What a flop.
When a player with legit talent flails this badly, it’s got to be all in his head.
I don't know enough about him to say
Has he been injured? “Tired” arm? Lost velocity?
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought he had surgery at some point
and then never really fully recovered.
He had a weird injury where he broke a rib or two (pitching!) his first pro year which really seemed to have retarded his development and took a significant amount of velocity away from him (knocking him down to the lower 90s) and when he finally came back from that he contract mono which wiped out most of another year and caused him to lose a lot of weight and strength. Between the lost time, the lost velocity, and from what I’ve read maybe less athleticism than scouts would like to see, he’s obviously completely stalled in his development.
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The 1 small ray of good news is that he’s doing so poorly that the Giants don’t have to worry about putting him on the 40-man roster. He’ll be eligible once again for the rule 5 draft in December, but I can’t see any team even looking twice at him now. The Giants should have at least another 1.5 years to work with him and get him back on track. At this point I would send him to the Scottsdale training camp so he can get regular innings in a controlled environment. Getting shelled over 1 – 3 innings every 6th day in the Cal League isn’t doing him any good right now.
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Well, setting aside for a moment the fact that he was a 1st round pick, with much more expected of him, he did pitch quite effectively in high A as recently as last year in Bakersfield as a 21-year-old.
I guess that there’s time to work with him. For him to fall apart so spectacularly tells me that they might have altered his mechanics, and he just can’t handle it? Or one of the aforementioned injuries caused more problems.
He could take 2 or 3 more years to straighten out his problems and still possibly make it as a big-league middle reliever, which was most definitely worth a Bengie Molina.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 30, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, he’s missed significant part of both the last two years (since the Giants traded for him) with injuries as well. Aside from his problems when he’s on the field, he just has terrible troubles getting there in the first place.
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Shane Loux Jennie Finch news
Good thing that Loux had a good game. His knockout /.strikeout wife will get some publicity this week as she meets with girl fastpitch players at a special Grizzly event. The girls—96 teams—will be in Clovis, near Fresno, from Monday to Sunday for the West Coast nationals. A guy I know is a coach and parent, real excited. Not about Finch, about his good all star team.
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probly my mistake
cause they acquired daigle and loux about the same time
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by foothillsfan on Jul 30, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone know what the status of Andrew Susac is?
I don’t think he’s signed yet, has he?
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According to the Giant’s website, he has not.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jul 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanted him in the draft
Was rated by a couple as the best collegiate catcher out there. Would be nice to bring him into the fold.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’ll be gob-smacked if he doesn’t sign. Right now they’re likely playing the waiting game as forced on them by Selig & Co.
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