Beltran, Rasmus or Upton

by cuse7284 on Jul 26, 2011 11:02 AM PDT

If you had to pick one, which would you choose - Beltran, Rasmus or Upton?

Each player has its ups and downs and we have all see the huge write ups here on McCovey Chronicles. Beltran is a rental but a beast. Rasmus is a head case but a young 5 tool guy. Upton has not proven jack squat but is a crazy "athlete" that might improve with a change of scenery.

So I ask all you folks, a very simple question, with just one word answer:

Choose 1 - Beltran, Rasmus or Upton?

**** I will update this post as I get responses via twitter. So far:

hankschulman Henry Schulman Rasmus. RT @hankschulman pick 1 - beltran, rasmus or upton.

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Beltran, Rasmus or Upton?

Beltran

135 votes

Rasmus

201 votes

Upton

99 votes

435 votes | Poll has closed

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Rasmus is probably the best of the 3 but I imagine he’ll have the highest asking price.

Beltran probably can’t play CF anymore so he’s the most limited, but he’ll be the cheapest because LOL METS.

Upton is in the middle; that said, he’s really an upside bet. So my answer is Rasmus, as long as we can keep Brown.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 26, 2011 11:15 AM PDT reply actions

Pence!

little bit older than Rasmus/Upton but has more pop & gets on base & is a fan favorite in Houston.

He by far would help Giants this year & the next 5 the most without causing team chemistry issues or breaking the bank

by cazzuno on Jul 26, 2011 11:32 AM PDT reply actions

Of these choices, I went with Upton, but I’d prefer Pence. And I think we have plenty of LHH.

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by Lyle on Jul 26, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Rasmus

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by Gobroks on Jul 26, 2011 12:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

I’ll take Rasmus and hope that his production continues to increase over the next year and a half or so. Then, after next season (assuming Gary Brown is ready), package Rasmus to fill a need.

by bayhey on Jul 26, 2011 12:26 PM PDT reply actions

Rasmus would also be a decent corner OF if Neal, Pegs and Nate can’t cover it.

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by Lies and Perfidy on Jul 26, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions

My buddy in New York says that Mets fans are really excited about the idea of acquiring Belt or Gary Brown. Someone’s gonna be disappointed…

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by Useful_Idiot on Jul 26, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions

Beltran

He will certainly be the cheapest, and the most likely to help us this year. That meets my qualifications. Cause:

1. You have no idea what happens next year let alone next week and,
2. Therefore, you do not trade strong future chips if you don’t have to.

And it would cost at least one of the Wheeler, Brown, Belt group to bring in Upton, and probably two of the three to get Rasmus.

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by World Series or Bust on Jul 26, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions

Beltran...for now

I think that the Giants will be able to pull off some type of deal that brings them Beltran without any major prospects. I’m with Baggs on this one, Peguero and Runzler or something along those lines. He helps the most right now and this team is built both for now and the future. But they can use the bat now.

Then…

This offseason, revisit the idea of Rasmus or Upton (Preferrably Rasmus). For one of those guys with team control, I wouldn’t be opposed to talking about Wheeler or Hembree or the like. They are long term upgrades, but don’t offer much in terms of this season unless one of them goes completely nuts for 80 games or so.

by RenoGiantsFan on Jul 26, 2011 1:47 PM PDT reply actions

I have to say Beltran. He’s certainly the best RIGHT NOW, and with the team in 1st, just go for it. It’s not as if he’s going to cost Belt or Wheeler either.

by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 26, 2011 2:12 PM PDT reply actions

Depends =)

Rasmus is awesome, but shows he can’t handle platooning. He is so up and down because he is yo-yo’d, hmm kinda like some players WE know.

Short-term and for not a lot, Beltran.
Long-term, sell the farm, Rasmus, if we had another manager.
Long-term for not a lot, Upton.

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by bigboneded on Jul 26, 2011 3:03 PM PDT reply actions

Considering expected cost,

Beltran.

And it’s not that close IMO.

Mets have no leverage and it’s gonna be a pair of meh-ish prospects to get him.

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by Cody_ransom on Jul 26, 2011 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

this

if i was just picking the one i’d like to have most it’d be rasmus, but considering what it would take to get each of them I’ll just take one Beltran and be on my way.

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by TimLincecumIsGod on Jul 26, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions

what do you mean “the Mets have no leverage”. seems they have 5 different teams interested in Beltran. asking price wouldn’t be as much as the other two but they certainly have plenty of bidders.

by repeat_in_2011 on Jul 26, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions

but if any of them were actually bidding anything they probably would have moved by now.

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by Roger on Jul 27, 2011 5:38 AM PDT up reply actions

well if we gave up Brown or Wheeler and there were no other serious bidders, then it would appear Sabean outbid himself. :(

by repeat_in_2011 on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions

No way!

That could never happen!

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by quincy0191 on Jul 27, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

No.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

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by natteringnabob on Jul 26, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions

Carlos Quentin

Let’s add him to this list. Sox are said to be trimming payroll.

by barrance on Jul 26, 2011 5:23 PM PDT reply actions

Rios for Lincecum!

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by Bhaakon on Jul 26, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions

if true

at least he’s cost-controlled for next year too.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

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by natteringnabob on Jul 26, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions

if this “report” is to be believed (and I certainly have my doubts)

Looking to bolster their pitching staff, the Cardinals would be willing to part with talented center fielder Colby Rasmus for Edwin Jackson or Matt Thornton, and a prospect, according to the report.

then I would really like to see the Giants pursue Rasums. I would be thrilled with a Jonathan Sanchez plus B prospect (by which I mean anybody currently in the minor leagues other than Wheeler, Brown, or Hembree) or Sanchez plus reliever (the Cards could really use some help there) trade, which would be at least as good as that White Sox package.

by FluLikeSymptoms on Jul 26, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

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by LostHawkGSW on Jul 26, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Do you really think Bighead will put the Unicorn in the pen? It takes him 45 minutes to warm up

by m34josh on Jul 26, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Just have him start warming up at the start of every game. Think about it. It’s the perfect plan.

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by nvsfg on Jul 26, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions

/Felipe scribbles notes furiously

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Jul 27, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions

After today . . .

. . . JSanchez may no longer be excess.

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by owlcroft on Jul 26, 2011 8:32 PM PDT reply actions

whenever I see this

I always end up thinking of the song “Beamer, Benz, or Bentley.” instead, it’s more like “Lexus, Ferrari, Toyota”

by sfoakbay on Jul 26, 2011 9:42 PM PDT reply actions

My answer continues to be dependant on cost in prospects. That said, my order of selection for the three listed is Rasmus, Beltran, Upton.

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by nvsfg on Jul 26, 2011 10:03 PM PDT reply actions

what about Hanley Ramirez? can he play a decent SS for a few more years or would they have to move him?

by repeat_in_2011 on Jul 26, 2011 10:41 PM PDT reply actions

He's not available

The Fish are moving into a new stadium next year and will have a corresponding sizable increase in payroll. With all the young talent on their team (Morrison, Stanton, A. Sanchez, Johnson, Nolasco, G. Sanchez, Coghlan, Matt Dominguez) they’re never going to trade one of the best shortstops who’s locked up to a good contract for the next several seasons especially when finding a good shortstop is nearly impossible. I can’t imagine they won’t try to contend starting next year, and the Phillies might be old enough for them to do it.

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by quincy0191 on Jul 26, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions

The Fish are moving into a new stadium next year and will have a corresponding sizable increase in ~~-payroll~~- revenue

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by Roger on Jul 27, 2011 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

srsly

Fish don’t change their spots. Also, we’ll see if Miamians really give a crap.

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on Jul 27, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions

They keep saying they're going to increase payroll to around $70M

Obviously nothing is done until it’s done, but I think with baseball already reprimanding them for not spending enough and their reaction to that, if they open a new stadium and don’t spend more MLB will not be happy (and the city of Miami, which is probably paying for a lot of that stadium, won’t be particularly pleased either).

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by quincy0191 on Jul 27, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions

That stadium already cost the governor his job. So I’m not sure how much more unhappy Floridians could be. As for MLB, I don’t guess they could really say anything to Loria, after the whole Montreal mess (it really seems to be the case that Loria intentionally destroyed that market on Bud’s orders with a promised reward of another franchise when he’d done the job). It was the union that slapped them last winter, not MLB. MLB instead fined the owner of the Red Sox for saying in an interview that teams like the Marlins and Royals and couple others were pocketing revenue sharing funds and turning the largest profits in the game (which Forbes later confirmed).

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by Roger on Jul 27, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions

good point…makes sense….

by repeat_in_2011 on Jul 27, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions

This is the one time ever that you’re better off with a rental. Thanks to Aubrey being signed through next year, Belt is going to have to play the outfield next year, and Nate is fine for right. Brown will eventually replace Torres in CF. You just need Cody or a Cody type backup next year and you’re fine. That’s not even mentioning that Beltran is the best player of the three by far right now. You’re trading at the deadline for an immediate upgrade, not for future potential.

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Jul 27, 2011 5:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions

I really fail to see what BJ Upton adds to this team.

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by say hey nation on Jul 27, 2011 6:08 AM PDT reply actions

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by ResDog on Jul 27, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions

Who makes the team best this year? Beltran

Who’s worth the most in a trade? Rasmus

If the Giants could only get one of the three, who would I want? Rasmus.

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by GiantPain on Jul 27, 2011 7:56 AM PDT reply actions

Latest on Beltran

Supposedly between Giants and Rangers. Supposedly the Giants are offering better quality while the Rangers are offering more prospects. Most people think Boras is steering him to SF because they have the most money to re-sign him.

Buster Posey: still better than Eli and Stewart, even with a broken ankle.

by rxmeister on Jul 27, 2011 8:30 AM PDT via mobile reply actions

Latest Latest according to Sherman (so consider the source)

Is J Sanch involved in the talks for Beltran. Please god no. If Dirty is in the equation, we better be going after Rasmus instead. Sanchez for a rental player? Have the Giants cooled that much on our million dollar arm, 10 cent brain lefty?

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by World Series or Bust on Jul 27, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions

If we can resign beltran for an Not so exorbitant price for say 2 or 3 years i say we do it! (assumin we get him)

Question if we do get him does beltran play right over nate or do we get our first power hitting left fielder since the great one?

by fuzz415 on Jul 27, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions

With Boras as his agent, I wouldn’t even want the Giants to resign him. Whatever contract he gets, I kinda doubt he’ll be worth. And with that clause in his contract where we can’t offer him arbitration and therefore would get no draft pick compensation when he walks, the Giants better be giving up precious little to get him for a few months.

by The Double Deuce on Jul 27, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions

Not sure where else I could riot about this

but I can’t believe the Cardinals just gave away Rasmus for Edwin Jackson + relievers (though Rzepczynski might become a 4/5 starter).

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by samlet on Jul 27, 2011 10:00 AM PDT reply actions

Gary Brown

Twitterverse reporting that the Giants have softened on including Gary Brown in the Beltran talks.

by barrance on Jul 27, 2011 10:15 AM PDT reply actions

No Brian, No.

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Good Brian: I’ve got a bad feeling about this.
Bad Brian: I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Good Brian: I suggest a new strategy, let the other team make the trade
Bad Brian: Retreat in our moment of stupidity? I think you overestimate my intelligence…
Good Brian: The force is strong with this one.
Good Brian: Boring conversation anyways, what’s for lunch?

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by World Series or Bust on Jul 27, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions

We got Beltran

No word on who we gave up, but KNBR says it’s official. Cross you fingers Gary Brown isn’t involved.

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by icanplaythird on Jul 27, 2011 10:37 AM PDT reply actions

sounds

like he is. I don’t know if this is a good trade or not still The giants won off either home grown talent or people who were thought of to be washed up but gave surprising performances. When we get a superstar things do not end up well. Gary Brown is a good prospect.

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by 24k state fan since 87 on Jul 27, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions