minor lines, 7/18/11
by steve S on Jul 18, 2011 11:46 PM PDT
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PrintMonday highlight from the Giants' farm: Ryan Cavan homered while reaching base three times. Also notable, Joan Gregorio had 5.0 shutout IP.
AAA: Fresno lost to Reno 10-5
Fresno: RF Brandon Belt: 0 for 4, BB, 4 SO, E
Fresno: C-1B Max Ramirez: 3 for 4, 2B
Fresno: SS Nick Noonan: 1 for 2
Reno: 3B Cody Ransom: 2 for 3, 2 2B, 2 BB
Fresno: SP Chuck Lofgren: 3.0 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 6 BB, 0 K
Fresno: RP Justin Dowdy: 1.0 IP, 3 R, 3 ER, 5 BB
Reno: SP Wade Miley: 7.0 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 4 K--1 BK
Ramirez had three of the Grizzlies' nine hits, raising his AVG to .280. Belt had a sombrero, boosting his SO/AB ratio (in the PCL) above 30%. Noonan made his PCL debut coming in off the bench in the 6th inning and singling in one of his two plate appearances. Former Giant Ransom reached base four times. The 35-year-old entered the game hitting .324/.401/.643 in 336 AB.
Lofgren struggled to throw strikes in his Fresno debut, throwing less than half his pitches for strikes (38 for 78) and issuing 6 BB. Dowdy also struggled to throw strikes in the 8th inning. He had just 6 BB in his previous 20 PCL appearances but had 5 BB tonight, while throwing just one third of his pitches for strikes (14 for 42). Miley, one of the Diamondbacks' top ten prospects, had a 15/0 GO/FO line in his third PCL start.
AA: Richmond lost to New Britain 11-6
Richmond: DH Roger Kieschnick: 2 for 4, HBP, GiDP
Richmond: C Johnny Monell: 2 for 4, 2B, SO
New Britain: 1B Chris Parmelee: 3 for 4, 3 2B
Richmond: SP Eric Surkamp: 4.2 IP, 7 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 4 K--1 HB, 1 WP
Richmond: RP Jason Stoffel: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 1 K--1 IBB, 1 WP
Kieschnick and Monell were two of the four Flying Squirrels with two hits each, raising their AVGs to .265 and .260. Parmelee, the Twins' first rounder five years ago who remains among their top twenty prospects, had three doubles, improving his season line to .287/.379/.452.
Surkamp had his shortest start in a month and a half, when he also allowed 5 R in 4.2 IP on June 3rd. Stoffel had his second straight appearance allowing 2 ER.
A+: San Jose lost to Inland Empire 6-4 (12 innings)
San Jose: CF Gary Brown: 2 for 5, BB, SO, SB
San Jose: DH Tommy Joseph: 3 for 6, SO
San Jose: 2B Ryan Cavan: 2 for 5, HR, BB, SO
San Jose: SP Chris Heston: 5.1 IP, 3 H, 4 R, 1 ER, 6 BB, 7 K--1 E
Heston, whose BB/IP ratio has been below 0.25, issued a season-high 6 BB but allowed just 1 ER.
Joseph's three singles got his AVG above .250. Also reaching base three times were Cavan, whose 7th HR tied the game in the 9th inning, and Brown, who had his 39th SB.
A-: Augusta defeated Savannah 5-3
Augusta: 2B Carlos Willoughby: 3 for 4, SO, CS
Augusta: CF Chris Lofton: 1 for 3, 2B, BB, SO, 2 SB
Augusta: SP Mike Kickham: 6.0 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB,4 K
Willoughby's three hits raised his AVG to .268. After hitting just .209 in June, he has hit .309 in July. Lofton also had a solid game, including his 11th double and his 14th and 15th SBs.
Kickham just met the minimum standard for a quality start to get his second win of the season. He had a 10/4 GO/FO line.
ssA: Salem-Keizer defeated Everett 9-4
Salem-Keizer: RF Brett Krill: 2 for 3, 2B, BB, SO
Salem-Keizer: 1B Brian Cutspec: 2 for 3, 2B, , BB
Salem-Keizer: SP Cameron Lamb: 5.0 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K--1 WP
Krill and Cutspec both had two hits for the Volcanoes, including a double, plus a walk.
Lamb had perhaps his best start of the season. It was not his longest start, but it was his first start of the year with no earned runs, getting his ERA below 4.00.
R: Giants defeated Athletics 12-3 in game 1
(completing game suspended in 3rd inning on July 5)
Scottsdale: 3B Jose Cuevas: 2 for 4, HR, 3B
Scottsdale: RP DeMondre Arnold: 3.0 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K
Cuevas had his 3rd HR and 1st triple.
Arnold pitched the 3rd through 5th innings, striking out four of his eleven batters but also allowing a couple earned runs.
R: Giants defeated Athletics 5-0 (7 innings) in game 2
Scottsdale: RF Leonardo Fuentes: 2 for 3, 2B, CS
Scottsdale: 2B Jean Delgado: 1 for 2, HR, BB, SO
Scottsdale: SP Joan Gregorio: 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Scottsdale: RP Brian Maloney: 1.0 IP, 3 K
Fuentes had two hits, including his 6th double, to raise his AVG to .263. Playing in his sixth pro game, Delgado had his 1st HR.
The nineteen-year-old Gregorio had perhaps the best start of his pro career, at least from a statistical perspective, facing just two batters over the minimum in 5.0 shutout IP. Maloney, the Giants' 45th rounder this year, completed the shutout by striking out his three batters.
DSL: Giants lost to Nationals 7-6 (11 innings)
Dominican: CF Randy Ortiz: 3 for 5, 3B
Dominican: SP Yeini Martinez: 5.2 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 4 K--1 WP, 1 E
With three hits Ortiz (18.1 y.o.) raised his AVG to .308. Martinez (20.7 y.o.) now has a 3.24 ERA in seven starts.
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It'll be interesting to see where Krill goes next year
They’ve been cautious with him but with the way he’s been hitting I wonder if he goes to San Jose next year.
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Actually, Surkamp’s stat line is decieving. He was wild and had to throw too many pitches, and too many grooved pitches, in the early innings, but he only allowed 1 run that was earned. Schoop had a throwing error that led directly to the first run and Peguero had an error that led to the 3rd run he allowed. He left the game with 2 outs and runners on 1st and 2nd, and Correa preceded to give up a single and double to cash in both of those runners.
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Demondre Arnold was also a victim of poor D and bad relief pitching. He breezed through his first 3 innings, facing the minimum 9 batters while giving up 1 walk and striking out 4. In his 4th inning of work he only faced 2 batters before being pulled due to his pitch count limit. The first batter reached on an infield single to 2B and then he gave up a double to the 2nd batter to allow a run. After he was pulled, Sundrendy Windster came on and cashed in Arnold’s 2nd run by giving up 2 walks and a sac fly.
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Noe that he’s a pitcher he should be around for several more years. If he had remained an OF/1B he would have likely been gone by the end of 2012.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Keep an eye on my son, Jake "The Jacksonville Rifle" Dunning. From SS to the mound - exclusively toeing the rubber since March 2010.
He’s pitched in only 6 games and 8 innings in his first try at pitching. Did you think he was going to be an overnight success?
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
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He was a RF with plus arm-strength. The arm-strength is the key, that’s why it’s usually a SS, C, or 3B.
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I know what you mean to say there, but for good or ill, it’s not strictly speaking true that “he only allowed 1 run that was earned.”
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by Roger on Jul 19, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll stand by that with the qualifier that I added above – namely that Correa cashed in 2 of the 4 earned runs that he was officially charged with. One of the other 2 “earned” runs that he was officially charged with came in the first inning. A runner scored from first base, with 1 out, on a single to LF when Schoop made a throwing error. The next batter up hit a fly ball to CF that the runner might have scored on if he had been at 3B, but from what I heard on the radio feed that wasn’t a clear-cut call. It was also debatable that the runner at 3rd would have been safe if Schoop had made the standard throw over there. I think the official scorekeeper blew that call, which is not surprising in the minor leagues.
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Nonetheless, Correa cashing them in doesn’t stop Surkamp from having “allowed” them as the game is scored. We could (and I mostly do) just ignore Runs scored as a part of looking at prospects and not have to deal with such peccadillos. That would probably work fine.
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He tried his best,
Alas, he cheated the game.
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"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Jul 19, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Aubrey Huff bought himself another two weeks of incompetence with Belt’s performance tonight.
Buster Posey: Like his team, he's done for the year.
by rxmeister on Jul 19, 2011 8:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
apparently not…and thank God for that….
by repeat_in_2011 on Jul 19, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
After a bit of a rough patch, Gary Brown got his SB% back up to 74% yesterday, stealing his 39th of the year (vs. 14 CS). He’s now stolen 9 in a row successfully since his last CS, which is impressive because this is the time of year when the grind of his first full pro season should really be starting to weigh down his legs a bit.
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Roger I have one extra ticket to the Tuesday game. Let me know if you’re interested.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jul 19, 2011 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Roger, I was just going to comment on this, but you beat me to it.
I think there’s a lot of encouragement with the progress of specific prospects like Brown improving his SB-rate, Joseph and Kieschnick picking it up at the plate after horrible starts/slumps and Verdugo’s successful transition to starting. I hope that the improvement throughout the year isn’t lost on people at the end of the year looking at pedestrian overall stat lines, though.
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Congratulations, Hector!
Joseph got his OPS above 700!
He’s been having a great couple of weeks, and he needs them after how terrible he played early.
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Steve, you got this score wrong
R: Giants defeated Athletics 12-3 in game 1
The Giants actually lost the first game to the AZL A’s by the same 12-3 score.
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Steve, you also got this wrong
Arnold pitched the 3rd through 5th innings
Arnold actually pitched the 3rd through the 6th innings. He left in the 6th after facing 2 batters and giving up a run on an infield single and a double.
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I'm with Steve on this
If he didn’t get any outs in the 6th, I don’t see how we can say he pitched through that inning. Maybe into it. I don’t know him but my guess is Arnold himself is doing his best to forget they even played a sixth inning.
by NearestNorwich on Jul 19, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I wasn’t implying that he use the word through. What he should have written was something like this:
Arnold pitched from the 3rd into the 6th inning…
They way he wrote it, only somebody who looked at the game recap would know that he pitched beyond the 6th inning. They also wouldn’t realize that he faced the minimum 9 batters in his first 3 innings of work without giving up a hit, nor would they realize that he was pulled in the 7th inning due to a pitch limit. Since Arnold had never pitched beyond 2 innings in the pros, that was important context.
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Nick Noonan
Why does he keep getting promoted? The numbers never merit it, and it might be because he’s always young for the level and getting overwhelmed. Might be hurting his development.
News flash: The way the Giants have treated Noonan this year they are silently confirming that he’s no longer a valued prospect in their minds. They know he can’t be a SS in the majors, yet they moved him off his best position, 2b, in favor of Culberson at the start of the season. Now they’ve promoted him to AAA, solely because they need a body to plug in at SS there, even though Noonan hasn’t shown that he’s ready for AAA. The promotion should not be read as a show of support for Noonan.
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He’s eligible for the rule 5 draft in December. Since it’s very, very unlikely that they’re gong to put him on the 40-man roster by then, they might be thinking he’ll get picked by some adventurous team. Otherwise, they’ll keep him around just in case his bat miraculously awakens, but he’s way down the depth chart at both SS and 2B. He’s never shown the ability to hit at even an average level since he left Rookie ball in 2007 and none of his other tools really set him apart from other middle infielders in the system. In retrospect, the Giants really should have left him to repeat the Cal League in 2010. He just wasn’t ready to face the advanced pithing in the EL.
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You think he’ll get picked in the Rule 5 draft? I know $50,000 is not a lot of money for baseball teams, but it’s still a lot to waste on a guy with such a low shot of sticking.
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He’s my adopted son, but even I can’t see why any team would take a flier on him.
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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jul 19, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Not likely, but...
He’s young, and a non-competitive team like the Astros might want to stash him away on their 25 man roster for the season. He’d still only be 23 years old starting the 2013 season.
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bet the rockies would take him out of spite
by Headhunter Rollins on Jul 19, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
He certainly won’t get picked for the Rule 5 draft if he’s in AAA.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 19, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
AAA has nothing to do with it
Doesn’t matter what level he’s playing at in the minors at the end of the season. If he gets picked in the major league portion of the rule 5 draft then his new team will have to keep him on their 25 man roster for all of the 2012 season or offer him back to the Giants for $25K.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Keep an eye on my son, Jake "The Jacksonville Rifle" Dunning. From SS to the mound - exclusively toeing the rubber since March 2010.
It’s really hard to see a team taking Noonan int he draft. I understand 25k is just 25k, but it’s something.
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I mean he won’t get picked in the major-league portion of the draft. In the minor league portion, does level matter? I guess I can’t remember but I thought it did.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jul 19, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
In the minor league portion, the teams get to protect 40 total players on each minor league roster, so Noonan would certainly be protected. That’s why there’s hardly ever anybody drafted in the minor league protion of rule 5, and there’s never been a truly “successful” minor league rule 5 draftee.
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by Smotheredinhugs on Jul 19, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The same can be said for Wendell Fairley. His promotion to Richmond in June was not a vote of confidence in him. Rather, it showed that they no longer really care very much about his development.
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But they didn’t need a body to plug in at SS. They had Lormand there who they sent down to Richmond in the Noonan swap. There’s no reason i can think of why Lormand wouldn’t make as satisfactory a body at SS as Noonan.
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That was my thought. I see them as rather interchangeable. Lormand made an error on Sunday that might have led to the loss, but I doubt that had anything to do with the decision. I did notice that over the 4 game Sacramento series, he spent much more time as 1B coach than actually playing.
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Noonan
We’re getting close to the trade deadlline and the Giants may be responding to requests from other teams looking at their prospects. Can he play SS? Can he hit AAA pitching? They might be hoping that a change in environment can help. Remember Travis Denker?
Belt's night was my fault
I went to the game with a bunch of my friends and I talked up how great he is and how he has no business being in AAA. I won’t be going for the rest of the series.
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I won’t be going for the rest of the series.
Which means that he will go 3 for 4 tonight with a grand slam. I’m still going to all four, even if the Grizzlies get their butts kicked. I will be taking pictures for a series post later this week.
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Absolutely!
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by NuschlerFace on Jul 19, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Jorge Bucardo
I noticed his name is now on the AZL Giants roster. Even though he’s listed as being on the 7 day DL, I dont remember seeing his name on their roster before this week. I wonder if he’s about to begin a rehab assignment in Scottsdale soon?
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He’s been tweeting some cloak & dagger-y tweets about how he’s going on a secret mission to SF. I think he’s there today. He clarified that he’s not getting called up, but I have no idea what he’s doing. I also think he flew to AZ this week.
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Delgado with his first pro home run!
I’m going to be playing close attention to his progression. I’m high on the kid.
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“the guy” likes “the kid”! Made me chuckle. Seriously though, nice pickup. I meant to post that myself this morning, but it slipped my mind.
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I don’t understand what they’re doing with Max. If they were looking for a potential stopgap catcher who can hit a little, well, he’s hit well in Fresno since he was acquired, so why call up Sanchez instead? Weird.
Max was not offensive ( bad pun) on either side of the plate last night, even when they moved him over to 1B in the 8th. Poor JAX looked bad. Belt threw a one hop absolute seed from the RF wall with a chance to tag a runner coming in to score. It looked like it nearly ripped off Jackson arm and the ball rolled to the backstop. He also had a few passed balls.
Ramierez looks like he could be passable league average catcher. I think the Sanchez move was a nod to the lunatic fringe.
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Chasm'd?
The Sanchez move didn’t make any sort of sense at all. They’re screwing with his development, he obviously isn’t ready (despite walking in his first PA), and it’s a waste of service time, an option, and a 40 man roster spot. He wasn’t hitting all that well in Fresno, and certainly not enough to think he’d be a real upgrade over Whiteside, who’s looking like he can actually be a passable bat at C.
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Yes
I agree that it makes no sense at all except to fans with no understanding of baseball development.
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1. They were going to have to put him on the 40 man roster before the end of November anyway (or he would have been snapped up in the rule 5 draft).
2. Since it’s so late in the season, starting his service time now is no big deal (except for the extra money he’ll be making in the minors from now on) since it won’t make him eligible for Super 2 status (if they stll have that in the future) or make him eligible for free agency any sooner. Let’s face it, he was going to be called up in September at the minimum anyway, so his clock would have started then.
3. I think it’s very likely that he’ll be back in Fresno within 21 days (the Giants are going to trade for a catcher) so the development issue, while a legit gripe, shouldn’t be too major. It will give him a taste of the major leagues to help him stay motivated while in Fresno in the future.
4. I do think that there is something to the rumor that Sabes made this move partially to gain some leverage in his search for a catcher on the open market. If other teams think that he’s willing to play Sanchez in the majors then they’re likely to drop their asking price.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
Keep an eye on my son, Jake "The Jacksonville Rifle" Dunning. From SS to the mound - exclusively toeing the rubber since March 2010.
I agree with everything except #4. Were I rival GM i think I’d be more likely to snicker uncontrollably at the notion of the Giants be willing to play Sanchez down the stretch than be fooled into dropping my asking price by it.
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That doesn’t mean that Sabes wouldn’t see that as a good move. We’ve already established that he has a hard time relating to other GMs and what their thought processes are.
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Keep an eye on my son, Jake "The Jacksonville Rifle" Dunning. From SS to the mound - exclusively toeing the rubber since March 2010.
But Sabean has a history of not making these types of bluff moves. In particular, last year when the Giants had Affeldt and Runzler both on the DL, he could have called up Hinshaw but didn’t. Instead he made comments about how desperate they were for a left handed reliever, then traded for Lopez in what some of us thought was an overpay. (We were wrong. TGWTWS.)
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