Reds/Giants Series Preview
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 9, 2011 2:07 PM PDT
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PrintAt some point, I stopped associating Dusty Baker with the Giants. Not sure when it was. There's a good chance that it was when the Giants won the World Series*, and I could stop thinking about Russ Ortiz coming out and Felix Rodriguez coming in every time I closed my eyes. Here's the game ball, Russ. Thanks, Skip. Here's the game ball, Russ. Thanks, Skip. Here's the game ball, Russ ...
But there was a while where Dusty was the Giants, almost as much as Bonds was. He was one of the few managers who were part of the story when they went on the road. And he drove me nuts. That's what managers are supposed to do, really, and Dusty was especially good at it. He'd bunt in the first inning. He'd bunt in the ninth inning. If he weren't in baseball, he'd be on a bus somewhere, yelling about bunts. He'd be going door-to-door, carrying pamphlets, and asking if he could come in and talk about bunts for a while.
In about fifteen years, Bunt Baker will be drafted. Darren, we know. But Bunt will go under the radar. Watch for him.
And, of course, there's the arm-slagging reputation that he has. Part of me feels like it's a little unfair -- things were totally different back then, and it's like going on and on about a high-school haircut. We get it, it was bad, but did you see the next guy?
Then I look at a game like this, and all thoughts of amnesty were off. The Cubs were up 7-0, and you let your 22-year-old ace stay in for 131 pitches? For what? For whom? I'm not a pitch-count zealot, but at least give me a reason why a pitcher should be overextended. It's a playoff game, he's throwing a no-hitter, it's a close game in a pennant race and the starting pitcher is throwing well. But I feel like Dusty's answer would be something vague about how Prior's delivery still looked smooth or something.
It's to the point, though, where I hardly even remember what it was like to watch a Dusty-managed team. Felipe Alou? I remember that like it was yesterday. Spoiler: if he's ever stranded on a jungle island, the smoke monster will be Jim Brower's arm.
So Dusty's back again, and that's something .... There was closure somewhere, and that surprises me. I remember him fondly now, something between crazy uncle and friendly next-door neighbor. He's not ex-Giants manager Dusty Baker to me anymore. He's just Dusty Baker.
Hitter to watch
If the Giants are up by three in the ninth and Brian Wilson walks the bases loaded, I'd hate to see Edgar Renteria come up. Not because he's especially fearsome -- he's hitting .237/.324/.268 -- but because that's the one person in the world who could hit a grand slam there without making me mad. It'd be like, okay. You got us. Well played.
Can't be angry at Edgar. Hope he doesn't play, though I do want to see the reaction when he comes up to bat.
Pitcher to not watch
Edinson Volquez vs. Jonathan Sanchez? Oh, man. I think I'll have to alphabetize my sweaters that day. Walk, walk, walk, strikeout, walk, pout, walk, walk, walk, strikeout, walk...
Prediction:
Four games against the Reds will either make the Giants feel better, worse, or about how the season is going.
*2010
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#SFGiants lineup: Torres cf, Tejada 3b, Sanchez 2b, Huff 1b, Schierholtz rf, Ross lf, Crawford ss, Whiteside c, Bumgarner p
"For science. You monster."
I swear to God, if I see Tejada bat second one more time…
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 9, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
So I can stop paying off Bochy after tomorrow?
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jun 9, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I can neither confirm nor deny such allegations. My previous statement was hypothetical in nature only.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jun 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
You should contribute that money to Dodger payroll my friend
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
I will. Just as soon as we have an owner not named "Frank McCourt."
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jun 9, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
May you lose Frank
And gain an owner named “Jamie McCourt”
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Jun 9, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Unlikely to happen.
Jamie would have to be approved as an owner, and I can’t see that happening.
I think Neukom et al might be the only owner(s) who wouldn’t mind seeing the McCourts stick around. The owners of the other 28 teams would just as soon ditch them both, I reckon.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jun 9, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a joke.
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Jun 9, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
So are Frank and Jamie McCourt, but I can't bring myself to laugh at them, either.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jun 9, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Luckily, I can laugh at the lot of you.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 10, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Gotta give old yeller a few more treats before you take him out back and shoot him
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
by DFARowand on Jun 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
word.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
MiggyMortis
sort of like rigamortis but stiffer, deader and stinkier. We are watching the decomposition of muscular tissue right before our eyes and it happens to be in the 2 hole.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jun 9, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
With the exception of Tejada, I like this.
Adopted Giant - Carlos "Don't Call Me Wallaby" Willoughby
by j14 on Jun 9, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand he likes “contact” batting second, but EVERYBODY in that lineup makes better contact. Why can’t Crawford bat 2nd?!?
Suck it Mat Latos rolls of the tongue so nicely
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Bork Bork Bork Bork Bork. Grumble Bork Grumble Grumble. - Translated Gritty Gamers are Gritty and Gamerly.
by Cant_buy_a_run on Jun 9, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLOL
I swear, I’ll arrange a parade the day that neither Rowand nor Tejada are in the lineup.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Seriously tho.
If Brandon has another good weekend, we can almost guarantee no Tejada on Monday.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
by Azmanz on Jun 9, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yea
That has been running theme on Twitter lately. Botch has all but said he is the new starter.
Better fielder and so far better hitter, huge fan favorite already, it is a slam dunk
Time to repeat in '11!
If only Bowker had managed a good whole 47 PA
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 9, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea
Or the assists Nate has had, plays in the hole Crawford had.
To be fair, culture has changed. Grizzlies players used to never made the big club, which can produce a mental wall to some players.
Now, if you get your swing down, play hard and relaxed, make some plays, you have a shot. Have to believe Grizzlies players now feel more relaxed when they become Giants.
Bowker may very well pull a Jason Werth and bloom late, but he just has not been an ascending star in his 20’s.
Time to repeat in '11!
There are NO . . .
. . . “slam dunks” where Bochy is concerned. Even—or especially—when he says he will do X.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
All too true.
I would’ve been more comfortable if Bochy had said something about Tejada being “one of the guys we need to get going”.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
"Bork Slam Dunks"
I will begin the list.
- - Javier Lopez who was once a LOOGY will inexplicably be called upon to face at least one dangerous righthanded hitter with the game on the line even though Sergio is loose and available in the pen.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jun 9, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
You have a point there.
I meant things that logic suggests ought to be slam dunks. You are quite correct that there are indeed other kinds.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Bochy has been pretty good
Giants won the WS.
Giants lost Posey for the year, lost 1st place and rallied back.
Last year we cried the same cry for Renteria. Uribe took said SS job and ran with it. We cried with Molina, the DP machine, and he was gone. We cried with Rowand, and he was back of bench last 3 months, yet still produced in PH situations late.
He keeps his guys going, and gets the most out of all 25, and lets older guys fight to keep spots instead of just replacing them with the flavor of the month.
I hate to watch Tejada and Rowand too, but the truth is, this is why I am not paid to manage.
Time to repeat in '11!
You know, it is just impossible . . .
. . . to say anything civil to anyone who can see Bochy as anything but grotesquely incompetent. Really. How the fuck can anyone say such shit?
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Because he brought home the only thing that matters.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 10, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Because he brought home the only thing that matters.
It was very nice to see Edgar get his ring last night to commemorate Bochy’s grotesque incompetence!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 10, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
When you can’t say something nice….
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 10, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
If Brandon has another good weekend, we can almost guarantee no Tejada on Monday.
Promise ?
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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Tuesday.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Do we have an off day Monday
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Agreed
Nate, Ross, Andres outfield is what I want to see, always.
I read somewhere Nate’s splits are better vs lefties too. Rowand doesn’t need to get in there to replace him vs LHP either.
Time to repeat in '11!
I want Burrell to start more than half the games.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
With this offensive lineup ineptness, what do we have to lose?
Let Pat hit 4th until someone starts to heat up. At least he will command some respect and his obp is not that bad.
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jun 9, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
He's really, in count numbers, not far from outstanding.
When your PA total is low, a mere couple of extra or missed hits mean a lot. Remember that even for men who play almost every day through the season, the difference between a .260 hitter and a .300 hitter is about a hit a week. If Burrell had just one pair of back-to-back two-hit days, he’d look great.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
He’s a real presence when you don’t have much else going for you. He provides power and patience in the middle of the order.
Sadly, those defensive whiffs had set him back pretty far, I’d imagine. He probably plays over Rowand if Bork has confidence he won’t flat-out miss on balls hit in his direction.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
Those also . . .
. . . loom large in rate terms, but not so much in count terms. It’s not like his problems have been associated with his one known and acknowledged defensive lack, which is spped/range; he has always been thought to have good hands and ball judgement, which are things that do not typically lead any skills deyerioration, so we have to assume that they were unfortunate coincidences rather than evidence of general ineptitude.
Of course, fielding has this in common with batting: the more you do it, the better you stay; the less you do it, the worse you get. Would that Bruce Bochy could follow the intricate convolutions of such complex, sophisticated theory.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
For those of you who watch the games not as icons on a computer screen
how do Rowand and Cody’s range’s compare in left?
Carl Steward said something on ExtraBaggs blog about Rowand tracking down and catching a hard-hit fly that he thought Ross wouldn’t have gotten to. And I was thinking – hmmm, is Steward trying to be generous to Rowand (the beat writers sometimes tend to do that, with players that the lunatic fringe want to drive out with torches and pitchforks), or maybe are the rest of us not being fair in noticing a skill that Rowand does have cuz he flails so flailingly at sliders?
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Rowand's is probably slightly better
not a ton, but enough
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Thank you
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
You think?
I would have said same, but I only actually attend a handful of games a year and that sort of thing is hard to tell on TV. I’d judge their speed is probably more or less equal. Do you think Rowand gets better jumps?
Rowand is better at getting good jumps, judging balls and catching them
Ross has a better and more accurate arm but then again I can’t think of any outfielder with a less accurate arm than Scotty’s.
But I thought we needed to save miggy for emergency pitcher?
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he said once nellie was freaking out in locker room telling them how badly they sucked in first half. And he was so made he didn’t realize he hadn’t zipped up from his pee and his junk was hanging out." -Tafkasam
by Badly Browned on Jun 9, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Who do you think will be their 2nd set up guy after Robertson?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
MOTA AND AFFELDT FOR MONTERO
Oh, please please please please please.
by wcw on Jun 9, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Realistically, anyone in our bullpen for Montero is a steal for the Giants, right?
Adoptive father of Jose Casilla.
Wait why?
Why would we trade for a catching prospect? We going to flip him in a trade next year? Unless you think you want a hitting backup instead of a defensive?
Time to repeat in '11!
He can split time between C and 1B or something
Kid has a special bat.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I am not sure his D is that bad, either. If the Giants could acquire him, a backup-C/1B role would be perfect.
by wcw on Jun 9, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
It will never happen, of course. But I like to dream.
by wcw on Jun 9, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
thank you
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
right
not bloody likely.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I can't tell either.
I’m trying to pick up some cheap holds.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
JONATHAN SANCHEZ FOR MONTERO
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I mean obviously you’d have to do that if the Yankees were silly enough to do it, but what do you do with Montero next year? Just turn around and trade him?
I worry about next year, next year.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
see above
He plays 1B/C, gets a day or two off per week. Posey gets a day off a week, plays 1B another day or two per week. Belt plays 1B/RF, gets one day off per week.
by wcw on Jun 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
we don't even know when/if Buster will be back next season,
so it’s best to make plans without him in mind.
Where did you hear this?
I know he tore it up pretty good, but everything I’ve heard is that he’ll be back in the squat next year.
I seriously love the idea of our back up catcher playing every day at another position, and then also letting Posey only catch 110 games a year.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
I wish the Giants had had Sandoval catch two days a week and gone to a Posey/Panda platoon.
by wcw on Jun 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
And that other person would be Romo, most likely. Maybe Ramirez, but I doubt it. No way they take Old Man Mota.
Sanchez and Romo for Montero might be a good trade for all parties. We have excess pitching and they don’t seem to care about Montero. Probably because they already have 8 amazing hitters, so what is 1 more going to do?
Where is our excess SP? Do we want a rotation with Vogelsong and Zito in it? Or Vogelsong starting a potential elimination game in the NLDS?
JSanchez is a very valuable commodity and he seems to be somewhat underrated around here. Yes, he’s frustrating but he’s also actually good.
He’s 14th in the NL in ERA since the start of last year (and actually the best on the staff, Cain 15th and Timmy 17th). He’s also 27th in WAR over that period and 30th in FIP. So by all measures, he’s a front line starter.
I would bet the difference between JSanchez (not even including Romo, who is one of the best relievers in baseball) and Zito is much larger than the difference between Montero and crappy catcher combo. This is even assuming that Montero can stick at catcher.
Bottom line is we can’t trade JSanchez this year because that lack of SP depth we worried about in ST still exists.
The Giants have more starting pitcher depth than most teams. Zito is a perfectly adequate pitcher, and he has been for several years.
I would be very much against trading Romo, because he’s way undervalued compared to someone like Wilson.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
starting pitching
check out Surkamps and verdugos numbers in AA. One of those 2 would be who is brought up if needed. The depth is there just not pitching in Fresno yet.. probably a month or so.
If we can get Montero, get him. Otherwise, what do you think of Kurt Suzuki for the rest of this year plus next year?
AN wants Zito
MAKE IT HAPPEN SABS
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
I love Suzuki
and envied him BB (Before Buster).
I kinda think the teams don’t match up well for trades, and anyway Sabean and Beane (SaBeane?) don’t seem to talk much.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Read "Moneyball".
The Beane/Sabean interaction is a hoot.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
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by Penitentiary Face on Jun 9, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
To save $11M?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Only
if he sacks up and BLOCKS THE PLATE
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Prediction:
Even though it’s a four-game series, the Giants will win the rubber match on Sunday.
"I could hear the angry MCC cacophany in my head."--Oldjacket, 7/4/10
Related
Who’s going to the Sunday game? I may be going.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 9, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Thu – Bum
Fri – Vog
Sat – Tim
Sun – BB
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish. Ever since I turned in my resignation I keep thinking I don’t have to go to work anymore. “..but I quit, right?”
We’re going on Sunday. Stupid 5:00pm start time on a Sunday. Boooo!!!!
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PARTYIN’ PARTYIN’ YEAH!
by b00f_spl00ge on Jun 9, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Consider all gross cheap puns to have been made.
And just carry on.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Needs more SF heat wave to warm up teh bats. Like last year.
Mon 8/23 @SF 11, CIN 2
Tue 8/24 @SF 16, CIN 5
Wed 8/25 CIN 12, @SF 11
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Wed 8/25 CIN 12, @SF 11
That one was a roller coaster of emotion.
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I’M IN A GLASS CASE OF EMOTION!
Suck it Mat Latos rolls of the tongue so nicely
Some people say Chuck Norris can throw a 100 mph fastball. I can throw Chuck Norris 100 mph. FACT ~ Brian Wilson
Bork Bork Bork Bork Bork. Grumble Bork Grumble Grumble. - Translated Gritty Gamers are Gritty and Gamerly.
by Cant_buy_a_run on Jun 9, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to that Logan’s Freedom Ride charity thing after that game. There was a lot of drinking going on by Giants players. (Though, I have to say, they were all in a good mood considering that game.)
Giants Baseball: Why Not?
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by kdl on Jun 9, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t that the one where Zito came in from the bullpen? And it was my birthday too…
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
We almost came back.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 9, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy shit
http://www.fangraphs.com/tgraphs/20100825_Reds_Giants_0.png
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 9, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
That
is not something you see every day
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Holy shit
The house 2 houses down from my uncle’s residence caught on fire and explosions were heard at 1:30 AM. They just found out that there was a drug lab in there.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Holy shit indeed!
Do you live in arkansas? That is a regular occurrence here.
Suck it Mat Latos rolls of the tongue so nicely
Some people say Chuck Norris can throw a 100 mph fastball. I can throw Chuck Norris 100 mph. FACT ~ Brian Wilson
Bork Bork Bork Bork Bork. Grumble Bork Grumble Grumble. - Translated Gritty Gamers are Gritty and Gamerly.
by Cant_buy_a_run on Jun 9, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I live in the bay area
My uncle lives in Moorpark which is about 40 miles north of downtown Los Angeles.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
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and I believe where he is also buried.
In a library??!?!??!
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
HAHA
They planted him in the Sci-Fi section.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd have though in with New Age books.
Nancy so loved astrology, and maybe he did, too.
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Does your uncle live in Diamond Heights?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
A funeral procession rolled down Diamond Hts Blvd
a few hours ago with about 50 motorcycle cops escorting it. I figured it might have been one of the fallen firefighters — so sad.
I think the big funeral procession is tomorrow afternoon from Grace Cathedral (I think) to Colma. They are closing 280 South for it from 3 – 7, so that ought to work out well.
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and a mess of streets
Geary, Webster, etc. through town, so check before you drive. I think a bunch of trains are rerouted too.
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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 9, 2011 2:25 PM PDT reply actions
Madison is going to get shelled tonight
The Reds are almost entirely right-handed, with the two exceptions being two of the best hitters in the NL right now: Votto and Bruce.
Gonna be a fun one tonight, Bumgarner. Get ready.
I stopped associating Dusty with the Giants once he took the Reds job. Now he was two teams removed from the Giants.
I totally forgot
he managed the Cubs.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
How could you forget that?
I remember him talking about managing the Cubs when the Giants were in the playoffs. That’s when I turned on him.
The unbalanced schedule means I only see those teams 2x per year. I just remember him with the Reds.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I was never fond of his management style
but I have to say, he’s improved every team he’s been associated with. Hell he came within a whisker of taking the Cubbies to the Series.
I'm going tonight!
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by Giant Fan in Singapore on Jun 9, 2011 2:28 PM PDT reply actions
I hope Crawford continues to hit
Bochy will be forced to move him up in lineup.
"For science. You monster."
The order of the lineup matters far less than the people in it.
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I learned it just outside of Reno.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
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by fjm on Jun 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
What about critical thinking?
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by wcw on Jun 9, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn’t his OBP get completely wasted with 2 black holes after him (although I guess yesterday proved that theory wrong)
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Sorta
But it matters a lot less than the fact that, say, Tejada is still playing.
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In general I agree, but with an offense this bad you should really string your best hitters together. Torres, Crawford, Sanchez, Ross IMO
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
I think it's a bit early to saw Crawford is one of our best hitters.
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That's nice
But a sample size of 13 games tells us almost nothing about what to expect going forward. Anyone can hit well for that period of time.
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But will it continue to happen?
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He just easily passes the eye test.
Taking pitches, and hitting the ball hard. 2 really rare things for the rest of the lineup.
25% LD% is insane, and over 600 PA’s is not sustainable. But there’s a pretty good chance the league hasn’t figured him out yet. Fangraphs ran an article last year about lefties like Crawford performing really well to start out their careers citing examples as Tyler Colvin, Brennan Boesch and Garret Jones.
I think there’s a reasonable chance that he continues to hit well for another 100 PA’s. What scares me is how he responds after that when he starts to struggle.
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That's fine.
But not really a good justification for counting him as “one of our best hitters”.
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For the next 2 weeks, do you think Crawford out hits Huff?
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Last year, Aubrey Huff had an OPS of .891 in the major leagues. His career OPS is .814. His ZiPS-projected OPS for the rest of the year is .776.
Last year, Brandon Crawford had an OPS of .698 between A and AA. His career minor league OPS is .748. His ZiPS projected OPS for the rest of the year is .632.
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For the next 2 weeks, do you think Crawford outhits Tejada and/or Eli?
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So you have Crawford as our 6th best hitter?
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I counted our 4 OF as 3 hitters I guess since only 3 can play at once.
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I'm also including Sandoval, because you said next 2 weeks.
So 8th, I guess.
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I guess if you're counting just uninjured players
I’d have him 7th.
Torres
Sanchez
Huff
Burrell
Schierholtz
Ross
Players who are injured who are better:
Sandoval
Posey
Belt
Fontenot
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I haven’t seen every at bat, but has any one seen Crawford square up an MLB fastball yet?
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As far as I can remember
He’s been murdering hanging breaking balls.
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Looks like it.
-.8 wFB
.3 wSL
-.3 wCT
1.7 wCB
-2.1 wCH
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The weird thing about those numbers is that if you add those up, they are negative, but his wRC+ is over 100
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My guess would be that's because he's hit more CBs than other pitches.
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Those were total runs not runs per 100 pitches
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wRC+ adjusts for league and park
what’s his wRAA
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odd
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I don’t think so: these are production totals, not proportions.
by wcw on Jun 9, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
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That's gotta be the explenation
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Clearly these pitches need more Randy Winn.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s the definition of an MLB fastball
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By that definition, very few major leaguers throw major league fastballs.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The fastball of doom to Uribe. 99 mph, right on the outside corner. Uribe had no chance.
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Yeah
There was some pitch last year that he threw against the Giants that just had Kruk and Kuip flabbergasted. It was 98 miles an hour and broke both in and down about 15". I believe they called it “the greatest pitch in the history of the game” or some such.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That always makes me smile.
Last week in the Women’s NCAA Semi’s, the pitcher for Michigan looked almost as scary. Her fastball wasn’t really wicked, she topped out at about 66-68 but was pretty straight.
She had this offspeed pitch though that was a sort of “slurve” (change/curve/drop). Arm angle and motion were the same as the fastball , but the pitch came in just under 50mph, got about a foot or so away from the hitter and just fell of the face of the earth and curved down and in to RHH and fell of the plate to LHH. . Had a vertical drop of about 18" and horizontal movement about the same. I don’t know how anyone hit it.
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he's been slightly below average so far
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changeups have been his worst enemy by far
he’s demolishing curveballs
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He turned on an inside fastball to rip a double down the RF line. It was a home game. I can’t remember which one.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
His first game @home vs. the Rox
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fangraphs has those data
His run value is negative against fb/ct and very negative against changeups. Positive against sliders and as noted he’s murdered a few curves. Very, very small sample sizes.
by wcw on Jun 9, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
he killed a 100 MPH fastball for a line drive single
off a nats reliever
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 9, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Suffice to say
I’ll be a bit peeved if he continues to start after Sandoval / Fontenot return.
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depends on whether you think Fontenot’s SS defense will improve with more reps, IMHO.
It’s a tougher decision than a few weeks ago, I’ve really gotten used to having solid IF defense at every position.
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Fontenot was solid
Not exceptional, but solid. And he’s a better hitter by a fair margin.
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He was not embarrassing, but neither did he impress.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
This argument reeks of strawhat-ism, TBH.
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Fontenot has a significant sample of innings at 2B
Which found him to have well above average range by UZR, which could translate well to SS. In small-sample UZR so far in 2011, he’s been above average as well.
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I think you’d find that even the most stat-reliant baseball analyst wouldn’t consider the transition from 2B to SS to be as simple as that.
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In slightly under 300 IP in his career (extreme SSS), he’s been pretty bad at SS
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Sure
But if you’re a +7 defender at 2B on your career, you must have some kind of range.
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that "career"
is like a season and a third worth of innings, about which the main defensive rating systems disagree pretty strongly
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DRS, Fans and TZL all have him as below average
and his UZR has really only been “good” one season
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I mean, with that rationale, Billy Beane would have made Mark Ellis a SS years ago.
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Well what do you want from me here
I said Fontenot has been a decent defender, other people said he looked like he hadn’t.
He only has one position with enough innings played to be significant by defensive metrics, and that’s 2B. And UZR really likes him at 2B. That’s the only real metric I can bring up in this situation.
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he doesn't have enough innings played
to be significant by defensive metrics
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at any position that is
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That’s what I am saying. We don’t have enough information to make a strong argument. So to be “peeved” at one decision or another is probably premature.
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I am peeved because there are many many seasons of data which indicate that he is a much better hitter than Crawford
I don’t really care about their relative defenses, because I think the gulf between there offenses is fairly massive.
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Why don’t you care about their relative defenses?
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Because every indication
Other than Crawford’s 13 ML games this year, is that Fontenot is a much better hitter. By a margin larger than the defensive gulf.
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about 6 runs over the rest of the season
see below
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I would say we have no idea how big the defensive gulf is. And at SS (which sees the most BIP) it can matter an awful lot.
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Can, maybe
But if Fontenot were a league-average defender (which I realize you may think is not the case), then Crawford would have to be 6 runs better on defense over 3/5 of the season.
That would literally make him the best defensive SS in the major leagues. I doubt that will happen.
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no it wouldn't
2 SSs were about there last season, and UZR is ridiculously volitile, and yeah, assuming Fontenot is league average at SS is a bit of a stretch.
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Don't use one season
If you do 2008-present, there are 0 shortstops who have put up a 10 UZR/150 in that time.
If Crawford is a +6 defender over 3/5 of a season, he is the best defensive SS in baseball.
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if you believe his +6 is true talent
a +10/150 for a fielder of Crawford’s (reported) ability is the kind of thing that happens every few seasons.
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One season of UZR is unreliable
You have to use three-season samples to reach reliability. And over the past three years, no shortstop has been a +10 per year defender. None.
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except Rollins
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Apologies
I was using 2008-2011.
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and 2 other guys
who had over 2k innings but didn’t meet “qualified” over 3 seasons, and that’s out of 30 people, so the top 10% are around 10 runs/season, the next 10% are around 9
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oh, and Rollins
is +10.5/150 from 2008-2010
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Do you think that Crawford is either the first or second best defensive SS in baseball?
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he's probably top 5
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We have no basis for any of this. We have no idea how good of a shortstop Crawford is. That’s my whole point.
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every scouting report about him ever
has said plus plus fielder
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So if a scouting report ever said “Plus plus hitter”, that would be meaningful in a similar conversation?
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if he hit well in the minors
and only had 5 game’s worth of data at MLB, yes.
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But there is no defensive data on Crawford. Nothing but strawhats.
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yeah but they're all saying the same thing
and with fielding, you have to rely on the straw hats more
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Yeah if straw hats said that a player had + hitting, but we had no stats, and he came up and raked, we’d believe the straw hats and say he’s likely to hit well.
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Right
But we have a very good idea that Fontenot is the much better hitter. So I want to go with him.
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putting up 10 UZR per season over three seasons would make him the best SS in MLB, but puttting up 6 UZR in 3/5 of a season would be much more likely to happen, and would not indicate any such thing.
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I'm not talking about what UZR he puts up
I’m talking about how good he actually is. Over the course of one season, those are not the same thing.
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you're also making a big assumption about Fontenot's ability
there’s a 5 run positional gap between SS and 2b. Fontenot, is by most measures, over a season and a third’s innings, average at 2B. he’s likely to be bad at SS
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Well, I suppose I can’t help it if you can’t understand what the actual question is.
The question is: given a reasonable estimation of defensive talent, how likely is it that Brandon Crawford’s defense would overcome the difference in hitting between him and Fontenot.
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No it wouldn’t.
It would make him elite level, but the best shortstop in any given season is worth about 12 to 15 runs above average.
3/5* 12 = 7.2
3/5* 15 = 9
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This whole argument is insane.
Brandon Crawford plays until Bochy deems he’s in a slump, in which case they will send him down to AAA.
ZiPS has RoS Fontenot at a .307 wOBA, I don’t know where to find Crawford’s at, but I can’t see it being so much worse that after including defense, they aren’t very similar.
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.282
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How does that translate to runs over 300 PA?
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using last year's league wOBA
about 6 runs
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So if ZiPS is true, and we factor in defense, we wouldn’t think the difference between Fontenot and Crawford could be more than 2-3 runs over the rest of the year? I’d rather take my chances with Crawford and not have Tejada on the roster.
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Yeah, i’d say 2-3 runs is pretty much the max difference, going by ZiPS
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I wouldn’t be completely against Fontenot starting over Crawford, even tho I’d much rather see Crawford play every day.
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Wow, I didn’t know that Fontenot was hitting .207 with .315+.391. The No. 3 hitter fell upon some hard times at the end there I guess.
BABiPed
His avg/obp should rise, but his ISO won’t likely stay this high.
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He has a 25% line drive rate?
so he’s getting unlucky with BABIP (.225 a couple days ago) and his LD% is 5% over average (not sure what an average LD% is)
one might think that long-term as his BABIP regresses to .300 (he gets luckier) and his LD% drops (as a result of the league figuring him out), one might wonder if his production is sustainable.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
"with an offense this bad you should really string your best hitters together"
I don’t believe that’s proven. Such articles as I have read on the topic—which, to be sure, is only a few—seem to find that the “clumping” vs “distributed” approaches don’t seem to matter much. But I may not be up to date.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Since barely anyone in our lineup has shown that they can consistently hit with baserunners on
You can bat Tejada in the 3-spot and it wouldn’t make a lick of difference. Although I’d be interested in placing any pitcher not named Lincecum higher in the order than Stewart or Whiteside. I like Sanchy’s batting approach.
At this point, I'm pretty much done with surprises - Michael Crabtree
Hitting with baserunners on is not a provable skill.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
You must be Clutch to do it.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Cargo?
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Lol just blew blood all over my hand
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 2:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
My left nostril always blows a capillary when I have a cold. I just wasn’t expecting it when I blew out. It was video game worthy. Thank goodness my computer is aluminum.
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 2:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Cocaine is a helluva drug
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I hate nosebleeds. They always happen when I’m aroused.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 9, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
No, wait. That’s not me. That’s anime characters.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 9, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
They always happen to me when I stick my finger in there.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 9, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh I took a nap and it stuffed up
I moved it and it started again. I want to get up and get a glass of water! Do you pinch this or what?
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 4:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I only pinch my own.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
TOUCH MY BLOODY NOSE
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 4:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sometimes an ice pack on the back of the neck helps.
FtF: Welcome to Opposite Season!
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.
Hey seems to work
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 4:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
and you’ll have to skip tonight’s jazzercise class.
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Looks like he’ll be Sweatin’ to the Oldies!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I am watching the Giants game
So yes
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 4:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
A spit take
from the nose? and with blood?
Brian Wilson just blew the save in relief of Jonathan Sanchez for me in World Series Superstars.
Then picked up the win on a walk-off homer in the bottom of the 9th.
Vulture. Art imitates life.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jun 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT reply actions
He's a closet Giants fan
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Jun 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
On this note.
This one guy in my POKEMONZ league was a huge Dodgers’ fan, but after the Stow incident and the fact his kid just turned 3 and he wants to take him to games, he became a Giants fan. It’s crazy to think about.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Not exactly.
It’s like sandlot baseball. You purchase cards with ‘coins,’ and assemble a team from those cards. I’ve wound up with three or four Giants, and have yet to pull a Dodger. :/
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jun 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I would probably try it if I didn't have MLB 11: The Show sitting next to me
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
I have MLB 10.
From what I understand, 11 didn’t fix any of the brokenness, and at least this way the Dodgers have a team rating coming off an NLCS appearance.
FWIW, though, World Series Superstars is really not that time-intensive. It’s about as much a competitor to MLB: the Show as Miguel Tejada is a threat to Barry Bonds’ single-season HR record.
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jun 9, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s a joke here about “coins” being adverse to Dodgers.
/McCourt
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
"Your money's no good here."
But Cody Ross, Brian Wilson andJonathan Sanchez all accept it!
by DodgerFanInPackerLand on Jun 9, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Why the hell is Tejada hitting 2nd?
The single worst hitter in the NL, and BORK wants to get him more AB’s?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
I have 3 things to say to that
1. The Giants are 6-1 with Tejada batting 2nd
2. Tejada is on a 5 game hitting streak
3. F all you naysayers!
At this point, I'm pretty much done with surprises - Michael Crabtree
He's only started 7 games in the 2 hole?
I feel like he’s been there FOREVER
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
So many implications with the words used. that is TWSS of the year right there.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
NO WAI !
I am in too much pain from seeing him in the 2 spot for that to be true.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I think it’s more like 8-2.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He has started in the 2 spot in 9 games, going .186 / .205 / .209 / .414 in those games.
by MySpoonlsTooBig on Jun 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Now I have to find if we won the 3 games I didn’t account for
At this point, I'm pretty much done with surprises - Michael Crabtree
7-2 – I think I’d heard the 6-1 and then they lost and then they won yesterday.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright, according to baseball-ref
It was 9 games he started at #2 and the record is 8-1. And 1-1 when he leads off. It’s like Boch found the magic warp whistle in SMB3.
At this point, I'm pretty much done with surprises - Michael Crabtree
That is amazing, Amigo!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Well we are 6-2 in our last 8
And 1 of those losses was when Gillaspie started at 3rd, so 8-1 makes sense.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
hahahahahaha
And may I add, ahahahahahhahaha
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
During that 5 game hit streak, his OPS is still only .604.
DURING A HIT STREAK.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I was hoping that the reason was that Mike Murphy photocopied what he thought was a blank line-up card to make enough copies for Bochy to use for like 2 weeks, but Murph didn’t realize that Tejada’s name was actually written in the 2 spot on the original, and everyone’s too lazy to make new copies.
This is the only explanation that I would find to be somewhat acceptable.
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Jun 9, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
From the last thread
I wanted to do my first picture…And yes, I did and awful job, and yes I used paint lol
by Artimus Clyde on Jun 9, 2011 2:43 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Lol
And, Schroeder :(
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 2:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
USURPER!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
131 Pitches by Mark Prior
Looking at that box score – it was Woody Williams going for the Cardinals.
Am I nuts in thinking he always was tough on the Giants? And he also could swing some lumber if I recall correctly.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 2:46 PM PDT reply actions
I have similar memories
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 2:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m really glad Grant brought this up from this angle. The only thing anyone remembers from that game is Bartman and, to a much lesser extent, the Alex Gonzalez error. Rarely does anyone mention how totally gassed Prior was when all of that crap went down.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I remember he hit a Homer off us too.
Woody Williams always played us tough.
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Proud Adoptive Parent of one of the best Five Tool Players, The Machine.
So....Woody was tough to get out???
TWSS
by colbs34 on Jun 9, 2011 11:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Managed to get tickets today.
Last time I went, Buster got broken. I hope for happier memories this time…
"Though that reminds me of a quality razor and mr. t story
he said once nellie was freaking out in locker room telling them how badly they sucked in first half. And he was so made he didn’t realize he hadn’t zipped up from his pee and his junk was hanging out." -Tafkasam
41,000 other people were probably at that game too
At this point, I'm pretty much done with surprises - Michael Crabtree
They need to all stop attending Giants games.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
The Giants are 1-3 in games I attended.
But Posey got hurt in none of those. Does that mean I should or should not go to more games?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Keep going.
You’re due for a hot-streak
/borkean logic
I'm feeling...I feel like I want to rage. Right now. - B. Wilson
by fjm on Jun 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I had horrible luck, then I accidentally ended up at Mays’ 80th Birthday game and saw Freddy hit the walkoff chopper up the middle…So now, I claim myself as good luck and the cause of all our walkoff wins!
by Artimus Clyde on Jun 9, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry guys, I got this
I’m going to the game today and was undefeated in about 5 appearances last year, and I think something around 3-1 the year before. I’ll be cancelling him out.
The first six innings are overrated.
Here's the game ball, Russ. Thanks, Skip.
Dental Plan! Lisa needs braces.
At this point, I'm pretty much done with surprises - Michael Crabtree
Seeing Dusty Baker invokes certain memories....
This is the Sweatshirt that I have had for the last 8 years.
It stinks. It’s ripped. It has holes in more than 5 places. But I didn’t care. Up until then, this is the closest that the San Francisco Giants have ever come to to winning the world series, and it’s the team that I loved the most.
On November 1st, 2010, this sweatshirt was retired. My wife asked if I wanted to cut out the graphics and frame it. I told her there is no need, because that memory is no longer relevant. The Giants have won the World Series.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
by jctGamer on Jun 9, 2011 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 15 recs
I remember this post after we won the World Series.
Awesome. You shall be green.
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Proud Adoptive Parent of one of the best Five Tool Players, The Machine.
I saw Lookout Landing
Put a new policy in place requiring 10 rec’s to get to green.
10!
I think it’s a good policy.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
BOO!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
/myspace’d
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok.. Imma ask,
I’ve been here for a while, but I think I missed something with 109. Can I ask what that is?
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I didn't choose to be a Giants fan, I was born into it. November 1, 2010 World Champions.
Proud Adoptive Parent of one of the best Five Tool Players, The Machine.
Someone asked Zito's pitch count one day
and 435 McCoven replied back with 109 at the same time.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
oh well, ok.
that was a bit anti-climatic.
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Proud Adoptive Parent of one of the best Five Tool Players, The Machine.
At the time it was hilarious tho
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
i can't imagine it.
it probably slowed down the thread like no other.
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Proud Adoptive Parent of one of the best Five Tool Players, The Machine.
the actual thread is pretty anticlimactic … it’s not even that many people, but somehow it stuck
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Adopted father of Sharlon Romans Emederio Schoop, Dutch national, and Flying Squirrel extraordinaire.
it was a lot at the time
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Orange...Any form of blue is not allowed here.
/well except that annoying Gillette ad.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
It's a horrible policy
It means that a few people can’t go through and make every post green after a particularly wonderful win.
IIRC, Gaslamp Ball requires roughly eleventy-one rec’s to get green.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I'm surprised there aren't a lot of green comments around here,
and McC probably has one of the highest average number of comments per post of any SBN Blog. I think three is sufficient for our needs.
Guess who's going to see Panda tonight in SLC?
Me! (and my two boys).
I got 5th row right behind the plate. Gotta love last second ticket availability in the minor leagues.
I’ll also get to see Runzler make a start and get a great view of his pitches. Should be interesting.
If you get the game on tv, I’ll be the guy watching the Giants-Reds on his iphone when the foul ball hits me in the face.
LULZ
Have fun! Maybe wear a catcher’s mask?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The only SF Jersey I own is Panda's
I think it’s mandatory I wear it since the timing worked out this way.
Not sure if its been said yet...
Is rent gonna get his WS ring on the field or privately? Would be pretty cool to see it on the field.
Follow me on Twitter @MTLJosh
by Montreal Giants Fan on Jun 9, 2011 3:04 PM PDT reply actions
And I agree, this is how it should be done.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Giants want to do everything on the field
For Showtime
At this point, I'm pretty much done with surprises - Michael Crabtree
I still have Dusty in a box!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I see you got that bottle all ready for October 2011
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Dusty Baker
I still can’t stop myself from thinking about him talking about how cool it would be to manage the Cubs… while the Giants were in the midst of the post season/world series.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jun 9, 2011 3:12 PM PDT reply actions
He was constantly asked about the Cubs as it was rumored everywhere, though, so he had to say something. It didn’t help that it was well known Magowan was butt-hurt because Dusty got more credit for the team winning then he did.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jun 9, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
ha!
Well Magowan showed him by signing a premier left-handed, former CY YOUNG winner!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Because something like “I’m not thinking about that until after our season ends, until then, that’s my main focus” would have been way too hard.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jun 9, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I got chopped. Hard.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
..
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
chopped
Y U NO PUT LINK TO NEW THREAD IN OLD THREAD
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Because simply giving you the link wouldn’t allow you to use your critical thinking skills.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
which, interestingly enough, are what led me here
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Well, to be finicky . . .
“Skills” is a word, so you want “skills” is plural there.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Fine, bucko.
See if I ever try to provide you a day off again!
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
Hector Sanchez to Fresno
If he hits AAA pitching he’ll be up quickly.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
by rxmeister on Jun 9, 2011 3:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
How is his defense?
If he gets brought up, would he be the back up or primary?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
work in progress
Good arm, needs to work on everything else.
by wcw on Jun 9, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The guy is a legit prospect, so I hope they’d play him. The book on him is basically Bengie Molina (the better, younger one).
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
He’s not an exact copy. I’m just saying, expect a similar bat, with similar strengths and weaknesses.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I would prefer that he be more like the youngest Molina brother
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Sanchez, Molina?
He has walked more in the past and at lower levels. Hopefully he was getting SSS or would adjust to A+. Or AAA. Or the majors or wherever he is playing in a month or so.
Please don't cut Ishikawa! 2009 Tops All-Star Rookie and World Champ 2010!
That's awesome
I really like Hector, and he’s been hitting well in A ball. Here’s hoping. He might be better than Eli.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
His completele lack of walks this year is a little scary. But if he manages to not get crushed in Fresno I won’t be complaining when they bring him up..
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Meh
Don’t have to walk a lot to be an awesome young catcher. See: Ramos, Wilson.
But yeah, it’d be nice to see him re-acquire some of his BB skills.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Where in the f did those go?
That was his thing, man.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 9, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone told him to become Bengie Molina
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
It's possible
That in his early years, which were all basically half seasons, he was just facing bad pitching.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
That’s a sad thought. I hope it’s something else.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
What would be an optimistic reason for his drop in BB%?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
It's kind of bizarre that the big thing with Hector through the lower minors was the high OBP
and how it’s completely disappeared this year.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Did they get a book on him or something?
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m so looking forward to the Sanchez to Sanchez battery, with Sanchez at 2nd.
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Sanchez up the middle!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Sanchi is the plural.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Sanchorus
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
the boxscore will get confusing on SB attempts
by Artimus Clyde on Jun 9, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Henchez is a ridiculous enough name that it should always be used.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I think he should be called
“Priam’s son of the glinting helmet”
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Not even Volquez could make that happen.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Was Bob Melvin still broadcasting for the Diamondbacks when he took over for Geren?
"I don't know how the six-pack got in my hands." -P.T.F. Bat
He was posing bail for Mark Grace.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
That would have been much funnier with the missing " t "
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I don’t think you’ve ever seem Bob Melvin pose.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
nor Bob Melvin’s posse
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 9, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL GIANTS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 3:31 PM PDT reply actions
Has there ever even been an attempt by Bochy to rationalize Tejada in the 2 spot???
make it stop, make it stop, make it stop
Boo
by LosGigantesTodoElTiempo on Jun 9, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions
JaymeeSireCSN Jaymee Sire
Country music blasting in the #sfgiants clubhouse means one thing: MadBum on the hill tonight.
i chuckled
Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington. My Dunning is better than your Dunning, by a ton.
M-M-M-M-Mad, Mad to the Bum
BECAUSE HE IS GETTING CAIN'd
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 9, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
No wonder they don’t score runs for him.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I’ll predict there are less runs scored in this 4 game series than in the 3 game series last year in ATT
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
The Giants scored 10 runs in that one game last year. No way they score ten runs this entire series.
They scored 11, 15, and 10 I believe lol
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
I remember Pablo was one of his odd 2010 “grooves” where he hit everything and everyone was like YAY PABLO YOURE BACK and then he’d suck again.
So good Pablo, Buster, Pat in one of his good streaks, damn the whole lineup was healthy. That was a good lineup.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
So Huff is this year’s Pablo
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 5:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know what Huff is. But everything says he ain’t good.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
Except his entire career before 2011.
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I’m not saying he’s finished.
I’m just saying he’s not good right now, in fact, really really bad. That can change, but it’s not peachy these days.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
Well . . .
. . . my take is that it’s like flipping a coin. You flip it, say, a hundred times and get, say, 30 heads; do you say the coin is bad (assuming we want heads)? Well, it certainly has been bad. But you just never know whether the very next flip will be the start of a run of heads. And history suggests a 50% heads rate. (Which does not, as The Gambler’s Fallacy would have it, mean that a long run of heads is to follow—only that a normal rate following will eventtually wash out the significance of the “bad” run.)
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Hopefully it starts landing up, is all I can say.
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Well, not really. He really stunk in 2009, and he was pretty bad for a first baseman in 2005 and 2007 also. Maybe he only hits in even years?
Honestly, though, it looks more like last year is the outlier than this one. (I still expect him to hit better than he has been, but I don’t expect him to even get close to .800 OPS.)
Let's see.
Without getting nit-picky about metrics, and in broad-brush strokes:
Excellent years: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2008, 2010
Good years: 2006
Fair year: 2007
Poor years: 2005, 2009
Terrible years: 2001, 2011 to date
Career totals? Good (for a corner outfielder, very good, but not for a first baseman).
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Baseball Reference has him rated the 555th most valuable player in the NL, out of 555
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2011-value-batting.shtml#players_value_batting::13
Zito, not Huff.
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“fewer”
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The comments on the right side are hard to read.
This is to GP:
We’ve decided that ZiPS RoS has Fontenot around 6 runs better than Crawford for the rest of the year, offensively. And even tho you don’t want to admit it (for some reason), Crawford is likely a much better defender, we’ll say 3-4 runs better.
If Crawford’s the starter, it means that Tejada will be DFA’ed. If Fontenot is the starter, it means Crawford is in AAA. Even if I admit Fontenot is the better player, I think it’d be better to have Crawford start, with Fontenot as the backup, than to have Fontenot starting with Tejada the back up.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
I want Fontenot playing SS every day
And Tejada DFA’d
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
There’s almost no way they keep Crawford up and not start him 80% of the time.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
not only that
it’d be terrible for his development
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
So, clearly, you think the chances of Brandon Crawford ever taking any steps forward in the future are minimal.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yes.
He’s 24 years old, never had a good full season in the minors, and isn’t projected as a good hitter going forward. What about that screams “potential”?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He’s missed an entire season combined due to injury.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Ok
24 years old, never had a good season in the minors, and a significant injury history, and doesn’t project as a good hitter going forward.
Well, that’s much better.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
significant injury history my ass
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I didn't know he'd missed an entire season combined due to injury
But if that’s true, I would count it as significant in such a short career.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
They were freak-type injuries. You wouldn’t hold Belt’s injury against him, right?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I'm not holding anything against anyone
Nick Johnson’s injuries are all freaks too. He ran into a guy and broke a hip. A ground ball kicked up and broke his face.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
nick johnson's injury history
is also much longer than crawford’s
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
This year he missed the first 6 weeks plus ST
Last year he missed the last 2 months. Both due to broken bones by being hit with the ball.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Both his injury were broken bones by getting hit with the ball. Yes there’s history of being injured, but I wouldn’t call him injury prone.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Just the fact that he's 24 leads me to believe there's room for improvement,
whereas Fontenot is Fontenot is Fontenot.
Eh, but that’s not fair. Fontenot is a legit major leaguer.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
define "legit"
he’s about an average backup MI
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Having a minor leaguer develop into Mike Fontenot is not a given, that’s what I’m saying.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
random minor leaguer x? sure
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Mike Fontenot Major League Career OPS: .746
Brandon Crawford Minor League Career OPS: .748
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
yes
Fontenot is projected to be about 6 runs better this season, I don’t see anyone saying Crawford is a better hitter. Posting their OPSs says nothing about Crawford’s potential for development
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
We're talking about development
Of a 24 year old who actually hit worse in 2010 than he did in 2009. He hasn’t been developing. Why would he start now?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
That's not really true
his numbers in AA did improve rather significantly last year over 2009.
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AA OPS 2009 – .659 (423 PA)
AA OPS 2010 – .712 (342 PA)
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
And he got hurt before it got warmer and the AA team started hitting better as a whole. Neal had a much better second half last year.
Personally, I was encouraged by Crawford’s walk rate last year. I would call that improvement.
by Wears T-shirts Sometimes on Jun 9, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
For someone who loves Andres Torres so much, I would expect you to have a bit more faith in someone making great improvement regardless of his history.
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
Torres was a special case.
I have no dog in this hunt, but that’s not a reasonable comp.
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Why can't Crawford be a special case?
Besides, all of this started when I said Crawford should bat ahead of Tejada. Then suddenly it was about how much better Fontenot is. I don’t care because Fontenot is in Fresno right now.
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
Because, so fas as we know, he does not have any untreated medical conditions.
There is talk of Torres’s “new approach”, but the crux of his turnaround was obtaining and using medications for his ADHD.
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It’s more than just talk.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 10, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
By which I mean he did completely change his offensive approach away from a Hriniak style. In addition to getting medicated.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 10, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
No doubt that helped.
But I think—not solid assertion, but definite opinion—that the change would have been useless without the meds, whereas the meds without the initial chnage would have led to good things anyway.
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*Taken with a grain of Reyes brand salt.
by MySpoonlsTooBig on Jun 9, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Fontenot's MiL OPS after his age 24 season
was about .780.
After age 23, in A+ and AA, it was about .790. Font also spent a whole season in A+.
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
His badassery on the diamond.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
This is an answer I can believe in, Stats or not.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I mean, I’ve only seen a limited number of games, but his fielding is legitimately nice to watch.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Dang, I g2g.
I’ll read over the rest of these comments later and hopefully will respond.
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Not a Dusty fan
The arm-shredding, the tactical nous of your below-average inanimate object, the occasional bouts of idiocy…. but man, maybe its just memory, but these old vets seem to turn into pixie dust with him in charge.
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Oy, well my record player is broken, and I seem to have lost the cat. There’s an afternoon’s work for you.
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Our cat is not all that bright. I was bringing stuff into the house [unloading teaching stuff from the car] and I think she went outside, right after that the gardeners showed up with the leaf blowers.
Haven’t seen her since. Damn animals.
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Luckily they also have a belly of their own and know where to fill it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Well when I went out to dump the garbage and check the mail I left the door slightly ajar and when I got back cat was sitting on the welcome mat. Was she in the house? Was she outside the whole time? She ain’t talkin’.
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We had one hide on the space above the kitchen cabinets and the ceiling ( you know the space where you put knick-knacks and what not) We spent about an hour looking for the bastard as he was laughing at us the whole time. I don’t even know how he got up there without knocking the stuff off.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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The cat came back the very next day
The cat came back
They thought he was a goner
But the cat came back the very next day
ah, damnit
my lady was begging for some and they were all out. seriously a fantasy from not too long ago. girlfriend (A) begging for giants champs-themed underwear (B).
I got a bunch for her birthday online. She was happy. She's a new baseball fan
so she’s all into the Giants now. What timing!
dude – likewise. she was already warming to baseball/giants via me, but last fall made her hardcore. giants fan, that is.
She knew a little about baseball, but she was more in to the actual team
than how great they were doing (that was a plus). It was cute how she was trying to recruit her sister on the phone, “See this guy coming up? He has a lucky red thong on. Oh yah that’s Pat The Bat, I think he’s hot too.”
yea that was a bit much. one of the playoff games after a few beers when pat came up, she blurted out “oh my god” under her breath. whatever it takes, i guess…
Hey, that’s why I’m here. Maybe TL2.
All the wimmin here are hardcore sports nerbs, though.
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 5:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This is why boys dream of becoming pro athletes.
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 5:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Gary Brown seems like a character
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
he seems like a goofy guy
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I like how enthusiastic he is.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Yeah, enthusiastic new Giants sometimes do that, unfortunately. He did retweet heimy, though!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
He retweeted me as well. Dude has good taste.
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Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
Heh… with my grandmother, calling someone a character was a sly insult.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLineup
You’re cool
Fuck you
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by MySpoonlsTooBig on Jun 9, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
so is aaron rowand a better field than cody ross?
fan graphs WAR says so. Have I been missing this the whole time?
they're about the same
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
rowand's maybe a little bit better but not much
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
Running through fence = +0.01 WAR
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Huh
I’ve been on the road a lot. Did this happen recently?
Ironically, the Giants recently contacted the Yankees about Jesus Montero. Naturally, the Yankees weren’t interested unless a name like Matt Cain came up. Needless to say, it didn’t.
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
It’s like CAIIEEEIIIAAAAAAAAN
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
how is that ironic
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
MATT CAIN WAS THE CATHER THE GIANTS WERE LOOKING FOR ALL ALONG
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
LOL CATHER
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
WILLA!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Hector skipping AA
probably is an indicator of how well the trade talks are going.
LOL YANKEES!
Please take our 26 year old career 126 ERA+ over 6+ seasons starting pitcher for your guy that hasn’t done shit in the major leagues.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
everybody's a hater
They’re not stupid, at least not about that sort of thing.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I would argue that they are pretty stupid for even asking suggesting Cain = Montero
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Why? Should they ask for Casey Daigle and negotiate up?
They know Sabean as well as we do.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there is quote a bit of room between Cain and Daigle. Why not just ask for the team’s tickets sales for the year?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t want to move. I like my house. It’s not for sale.
If you give me $50M right now, I will laugh all the way to the bank and buy new things.
Sabean made the call, and asked to buy something not for sale. They set a high price. Seems pretty smart.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So they couldn't just say "No, thanks"?
It has to be Cain? And the fact that Sabean (of all people) probably laughed at them for even asking is proof how ridiculous that type of response is.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
“Susan, I asked to be connected to the New York Yankees, not the god damned crazy house!”
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
"Like we're going to deal seriously with the guy who gave Aaron Rowand twelve million dollars a year."
“How much is Soriano making again?”
::click::
2005
Jaret Wright, Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano and Randy Johnson
$46,000,000
2.7 aggregate WAR
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
95-62, 1st place
what morans!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That's Moranis, Rick
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Jun 9, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
First place
ain’t that hard w a salary thirty-eight times the rest of the league combined.
In 2005, the Yanks paid Kevin Brown, Bernie, Pavano, Steve Karasay, Jared Wright, Mike Stanton, Tony Womack, and Ruben Sierra $56.3m – or more than the Rays + Royals total team salaries combined. Those eight guys combined for a lovely negative 4.9 WAR.
Bad contracts can kill a small market team (Eric Chavez 2008-2011). They can hamstring a big market team (G-Men with Zito, Rowand, and Huff, this year and next). But the Yankees can just laugh and keep shoveling wheelbarrow-fulls of thousand dollar bills into the furnace, and still go 95-62.
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
I’m not sure what that has to do with Montero, but you should take it up with baseball owners, and players. It’s been a problem for about 100 years.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
My point is that
Cashman wouldn’t (or shouldn’t) ever say, “Like we’re going to deal seriously with the guy who gave Aaron Rowand twelve million dollars a year.”
He has made many similar dumb mistakes himself. He’s just better able to cover em over, and still bring a whole swarm of 3-10 WARriors to the table and make the playoffs almost every year, because he’s the Cash-man.
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
He wouldn’t say that because he isn’t, regardless of overpays which might well be hang-able on the Steinbrenners, a drooling moron.
And asking for Cain instead of Zito, as is normally suggested here, proves he isn’t a dunce.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Just so.
I have long said that money dominance is not a matter of being able to afford high-priced players; rather, it’s being able to make high-priced mistakes, yet just throw them away and start over whenever needed.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I don’t see any mention that they asked solely for Cain. Nor that Sabean laughed.
Cain is a good pitcher. It would be stupid not to ask about him.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
the worst Sabean can say is "no"
why not make a ridiculous counter offer?
Sharlon Schoop - honkbalspeler extraordinaire.
Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I don't understand why this is controversial
it’s why you make a counter-offer in the first place. Maybe they say yes.
It’s no stupider than calling up and offering Hinshaw for Montero, or whatever Sabean pitched them (yet another fact not presented).
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
But they don’t really like their house that much, and everyone knows it. If one is in a position of needing something badly, making ridiculous offers to potential trade partners is not a good way to go.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you for explaining this better than I did.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Usually it’s the Giants that are fixing to get screwed in this situation!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
they clearly hate him
which is why 30 teams have probably asked this year, and been told no.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
They will come back with: "Well, it was going to take Cliff Lee to get him last year, and Matt Cain is no Cliff Lee, so that's a bargain."
Never mind that Cliff Lee was going to be a free agent.
That is their line of thought because..
THEY ARE THE NEW YORK YANKEE"S. Espn coverage has gone to their head
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Jesus hates
the Yankees
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Feel free to use my edited version...
"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"
"Dodger tears are delicious" - rotorueter
“But my father only created buried dinosaur bones and fossils so that our faith could be tested”
by posey yaknowsy on Jun 9, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE CAIN IN PINSTRIPES!!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
ODELAY VOTTO!
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 9, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
@hankschulman
Henry Schulman
Just talked to Renteria. Said he doesn’t want to cry when he gets ring "because I’m playing tonight and I don’t want to show weakness to P.
"For science. You monster."
Come on, Gar. They already know how weak you are.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
/Edgard takes the ring and throws it into the cove
DON’T INSULT ME!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
/ DUSTY THROWS TOOTHPICK BEFORE GAME STARTS
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
To P?
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 4:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope
His penis is nicknamed P, for short. (get it) They have a weird relationship
by posey yaknowsy on Jun 9, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He should put it on and then punch someone through the tears.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 9, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Dusty Baker is a good manager*
- If you don’t mind reloading pitchers every year or two.
There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.
by Giant_in_la_area on Jun 9, 2011 4:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
AmyKNelson Amy K. Nelson
When told Uribe cried when he got his WS ring & asked if he would, Renteria, laughing, said: Uribe is a big baby. http://moby.to/c5r7fb
Emo Juan
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 5:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Also emo.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Which DC song?
"I always knew I was going to be thrown at. I was old-school, so I didn't care, as long as they hit me from the neck down.'' Hac-Man One Flap down Jeffrey Leonard
by Penitentiary Face on Jun 9, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT BIG BABY TOOK MY STARTING JOB!!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Ha
@SF_Giants
San Francisco Giants
Last season the #SFGiants outscored #Reds 38-19 in 3-game set here at AT&T Park, averaging 12.6 runs and 17.6 hits per game!
"For science. You monster."
Yeah, ours is too. Had to run it last night as well. The upstairs is usually 5˚ cooler than whatever the daytime high temp was, and it takes FORever to cool off. I rrrrrrrrrreally didn’t want to spend another summer here but meh. So long as we’re out before rainy season starts again I guess.
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Last year, the Giants didn’t have Miguel Tejada and Eli Whiteside and Brandon Crawford getting consistent playing time.
185-2! 61.3 hits a game!
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
nope, they didn’t. They had Jose Guillen.
Wait, now we have 3 of them now…
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
Overbay ht a ball down the RF line that reached the wall and only got a single
It was like watching a skinny Bengie.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:06 PM PDT reply actions
I'm going to a game in this series!
My flight leaves Heathrow tomorrow and I’ll be in SF by Friday night, all ready for the game on Sunday
Neato! We’re going on Sunday. We’re in 129. heh, our World Series game 6 tickets are still hanging up there on the board too.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn’t too crazy about the 129 seats, seemed too far away from homeplate. But really there’s no bad seats….well okay 336 isn’t exactly hot potaytoes… but most places are good.
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/shamed
And I thought my trip down from Reno to see a game was long one.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
HA HA HA
DUSTY BAKER TOOTHPICK-HOLDER BOBBLEHEAD
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Jun 9, 2011 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I thought it was french fries at first
by posey yaknowsy on Jun 9, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
They look like french fries
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish we had Jose Guillen
So we could all stop thinking about Tejada.
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
Tejada Tejada
I love ya Tejada. You’re always a step away.
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Jun 9, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah well somebody should tell Bochy:
……that he won’t be better than before
YESTERDAY’S GONE!!!!
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dammit, you read my mind. i just posted a reference about Guillen upthread.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
Snow is working with Conor at first
per Amy G
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
LOL BELT
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Belt has to peek through a hole in the fence, and sometimes Snow shoos him away. “Bad Belt, get away from here, you moocher!”
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jun 9, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
http://img.ly/4TwR
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Jun 9, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Luddite here
I can only be nice to one person a day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.
by GiantMalcontent on Jun 9, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
They really do some strange things sometimes. Obviously this does no harm, but do you really need to try to maximize the number of guys you have who can play first base but can’t hit?
the giants like to put shortstops and thirdbasemen at first, and like the put first baseman in OF and sometimes at second.
WWRWD?
The second part of that makes sense though. If you have a good hitter, you’d like to be able to play him all over the diamond so you can keep him in the lineup. But if you have a guy who isn’t a good hitter, it doesn’t increase his value if you teach him to play the least difficult defensive position on the field.
Well, it’s the (insert team). We’re probably gonna have to score runs to beat them.
But more runs than usual to top a team that scores a whole bunch. Good thing it’s warm!! /science
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
You could write Kruk’s keys to the game
by posey yaknowsy on Jun 9, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually do. It’s a tightly kept secret. I hope the internet doesn’t say anything!
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
I choose to remember Dusty fondly
JT Snow scooping up little Darren as he crossed home plate. That was fun. Then Bud Selig banned kids in the dugout.
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
Darren "Bunt" Baker
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 9, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but that Alioto kid is a world champion batboy.
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 5:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Lawless is on chronicle live.
Lol autocomplete. Lasorda.
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 5:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
No tv show about Wonder Woman can really better Xena.
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 5:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Wonder Woman waas into bondage
Lasso of truth, indeed!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
"The Steranko History of Comics" makes it rather plain.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I am now about to confuse Mr. Merope.
“Sanchez got called up to Fresno.”
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KLaw on KNBR talking about the As and the Giants draft
http://www.knbr.com/portals/3/podcasts/damonbruce/0609%20-%20kieth%20law.mp3
Very positive on the Giants sandwich pick, less so on Panik
So today's highest scoring team (so far) is the Tigers with 4 runs
Baseball is the game I remember again.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions
still waiting for the Lars once around the MLB
by posey yaknowsy on Jun 9, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I usually put that in the game thread before the game starts
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Which raises a possibly interesting question:
Is there such a thing as an ideal average number of runs?
I think there is, and the range is, I further think, not huge. The basic idea, as I see it, is that a run scored should be on the one hand not so rare that the game usually swings on one, but on the other hand not so common that it is a ho-hum matter. In recent decades, the games has swung more to the latter state: I find it obscene that announcers often—with some truth—refer to a 4-run lead in the 7th inning as “a close game”.
My sense of it is that the ideal is a combined (two-team) average total of 8, or at most 9 runs; if we are to keep the stupid DH, then let it be 8 in the NL and 9 in the AL. (It has been more like 9 NL and 10 AL.)
I wonder how others feel on that.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I think your averages sound about right to me
I might even suggest a run lower for each league. Also, I’d really love to get rid of the DH.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I’d really love to get rid of the DH.
You sir are a scholar.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 10, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder why the local news always asks family members to opine on legal events involving their loved ones. What do you think they will say, “He was always scum and I’m glad he’s dead”?
THE ROCKIES TOOK MY BOY.
by shanghaijim on Jun 9, 2011 5:58 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
“Your house burned to the ground, your dog ran away, and your spouse is dead. How do you feel right now?”
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 9, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You just summarized what its like the watch any baseball interview.
except of course for last night’s Nyger Morgan
by posey yaknowsy on Jun 9, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Snake vs. Bucs is a THRILLA.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
It's been awhile since 1st place and 8 games over .500 made me this nervous.
Although the season ended in April (thanx, CO!) I feel like we’ve been scratching and clawing to stay above a bunch of teams that are basically the worst in baseball.
And damned if four game series don’t just make me TIRED. Except for the ones we sweep, of course. Now THAT would be nice.
Better to be a Giants fan than an Athletic supporter!
If I was GM
trade tejada and rowand immediately. sadly, their value is only trending downwards. I’d say DFA but maybe we can get a prospect or 2 if we eat all the salary. Hey we can afford it right.
stoopid pirates
/kicks can
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
So, Oakland really responded well to that managerial change
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 6:27 PM PDT reply actions
MELVIN"S A PLAYER'S MANAGER!!
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
So will they show the Renteria ring ceremony thing on the pregame show?
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I think they probably will
Worst case: they show a clip of it between innings.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 9, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Worst case
Sabes trades Rowand…. for renteria. Doh!
by posey yaknowsy on Jun 9, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember Dusty having a rule about SPs
7 innings or 7 runs. Made it very frustrating when a guy was obviously stinking it up early and Dusty would hang with him until the game was out of reach.
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