Twenty-five fun facts
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 29, 2011 12:54 PM PDT
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Sometimes the brain isn't cut out for narrative. Today is one of those days. So instead, I present an assortment of fun facts. They're fun! And factual.
Fun fact #1:
The Giants' record when they score exactly one run: 2-9
The Giants' record when they score exactly two runs: 5-10
The Giants' record when they score exactly three runs: 12-3
That last one is insane. After scoring three runs, the Giants hitters put on a bathrobe, sit down, and just relax. As well they should. Three runs or more is an offensive explosion that leads to a win. Take the rest of the night off, fellas.
Fun fact #2:
The best player drafted by the Padres in the first round since Dustin Hermanson in 1994: Khalil Greene in 2002 (8.8 WAR with the Padres). After that, it's Tim Stauffer (4.5). Next is Sean Burroughs (1.7). That was 18 years ago. They've had 36 first-round and first-round supplemental picks since then. Jerome Williams would be third on the Padres list, and Jerome Williams retired six hundred years ago in shame and ignominy.
Fun fact #3:
Jerome Williams did not retire. He is on the Angels' triple-A team, where he has thrown two fantastic outings, walking two and striking out 12 in 14-1/3 innings. His 3.14 in Salt Lake City translates to a -0.10 ERA in Fresno.
Fun fact #4:
Dan Uggla has been worse than Miguel Tejada this season. Uggla is hitting .177/.247/.341 with clankmittery at second. Miguel Tejada has four months left on his contract. Dan Uggla has five years.
Fun fact #5:
There is a middle infielder in the Diamondbacks system who is hitting .321/.398/.632 with 20 home runs. There have been two shortstops who have hit better than .300/.375/.600 with 20 or more home runs in major league history.
Fun fact #6:
The Giants could probably trade a prospect for this middle infielder.
Fun fact #7
The middle infielder is Cody Ransom.
Fun fact #8
Cody Ransom is 35 years old.
Fun fact #9
Andres Torres is swinging at fewer pitches out of the strike zone this year compared to last. He's making more contact, swinging and missing less, and taking more pitches.
Fun fact #10
Despite all of that, Andres Torres has not been as good as he was last year.
Fun fact #11:
That last fact wasn't fun. :(
Fun fact #12:
Of all the hitters who are underperforming expectations, Torres is the one I'm least worried about.
Fun fact #13:
A picture exists of Andres Torres congratulating Wily Mo Pena and Angel Berroa after scoring on a bases-loaded triple from Jose Reyes in the 2002 Futures Game. The triple was hit off Aaron Cook.
Fun fact #14
Though Angel Berroa was once the American League Rookie of the Year, you might not know that Jose Reyes has actually had the better career.
Fun fact #15
Since injuring Buster Posey, the Marlins were smote by an angry god. Probably Posey himself.
Fun fact #16
Most vendors work on commission, taking home a percentage of what they sell.
Fun fact #17
A vendor who worked last night's rain-delayed A's/Marlins game would have made exactly $1 if he were selling pot brownies, dates with models, and $5 bills for $1.
Fun fact #18
FanGraphs says that there are 15 pitchers who have been better than Tim Lincecum this year, and 20 non-Lincecums who have been better than Matt Cain.
Fun fact #19
No one is better than Matt Cain or Tim Lincecum.
Fun fact #20
Except maybe Madison Bumgarner, who has been better than Josh Beckett this year, according to FanGraphs.
Fun fact #21
The Giants are 5-11 in Madison Bumgarner starts this year. The Red Sox are 10-5 in Josh Beckett starts this year.
Fun fact #22
The Red Sox have a better offense than the Giants.
Fun fact #23
The Red Sox are not in first place.
Fun fact #24
The Giants are.
Fun fact #25
The Giants have won seven games in a row, which is their longest winning streak since the 2007 Giants won eight in a row from April 18 to April 26.
Fun fact #26
The 2007 Giants won at least eight games.
Fun fact #27
The title of this post is misleading.
All facts! All fun, expect the ones that weren't.
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Don’t make fun of Aaron, you meanie.
Now I’ll read the other stuff under the picture.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
uh oh
you’re not gonna be happy with #4
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I forgot that “5 year deal” is for you good news regardless of the clankmittery.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Galootophilia knows no stats. Other than, you know, weight and height and stuff like that.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
My scouting reports look like this:
Uggla, Daniel C. 5’11", 205 lbs. Enjoys corn dogs. Has nice smile.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
by TheLetter2 on Jun 29, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good question. I suppose I could use it to grade earnestness. Dan, for instance, probably rates a 67 in earnestness — well above ML average. Brian McCann excels in that measure — 77. Jim Thome sets the bar at 80. No one is more earnest than ol’ Jimmers.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Nobody inside baseball, anyhow. I am not sure how someone like Jonathan Richman rates outside sports.
He is a very nice person.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Jonathan Richman, whom we must warn I have never met socially, seems so earnest and so nice that I sometimes suspect it has to be a lifelong performance of some sort. It can’t be real. Can it?
Once, at a tournament I was participating in, there was no one to sing the National anthem. When one of the guys running the tournament found out he was there and asked him to sing it, he most graciously did so, impromptu and gratis.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I was pretty excited to hear it. It actually wasn’t the greatest version I’ve ever heard, as it was done a capella and without any preparation or warmup, but damned if I wasn’t impressed with how well he handled it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That seems like all you would want. Wish we had ‘this land is your land’ as the anthem instead, but I gather that one doesn’t go over well with all audiences.
I had the pleasure to meet Jonathan . . .
twice, though not “informally.” He lived in Nevada City while making “I Jonathan.” And he has friends in Sac, so he plays here often at small clubs. I see him whenever possible.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jun 29, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
John Vanderslice is like this
And I do believe it’s real. I went to his concert and he invited everyone to his recording studio the next morning. When a few of us took him up on the offer, I walked in to his kitchen where he was telling his mom on the phone how much he loved her after her favorite cat died. Then he gave us all great coffee, donuts, and an amazing tour.
"Bruce Wayne is the Brian Wilson of Gotham." -DrDC
I was at that show! I was blown away. Our seats were good enough that I had to duck the headstock of his guitar when he was in the aisle playing.
He was super nice to my wife (and everyone else) while he signed her poster. I could not convince her to get going in time to go to the studio the next morning (officially jealous of you, BTW)…
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously. I was just amazed.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, apparently there will be a video of the event.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!
I was hoping for some kind of recording. The White Wilderness stuff was great, but Pale Horse and Trance Manual totally blew my mind.
"Bruce Wayne is the Brian Wilson of Gotham." -DrDC
Trance Manual was on super heavy rotation at Chez Disaster for quite a while… I think them playing it made Mrs. Disaster’s year worthwhile.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
pictures from event and Tiny Telephone tour
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150645553270167.681395.898600166&l=980f0637d7
I was introduced to JV via “Exodus Damage”, then listened to all the MK Ultra stuff, and became pretty hooked.
"Bruce Wayne is the Brian Wilson of Gotham." -DrDC
Bill Gates Must Die
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice pics! I am bummed to have missed that tour.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
And I’ll have to go listen to Mass Suicide Occult Figurines again.
"Bruce Wayne is the Brian Wilson of Gotham." -DrDC
When I saw Dave Chappelle this year at the Indy in SF after the show (about 4:30am) he was organizing a motorcycle ride to Santa Cruz the next day with audience members.
I, sadly, had other plans. And I promised my ma I’d never ride a motorcycle – so there’s that too.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 29, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He kind of gives me diabetes, he’s so sweet.
Ido like that baseball song of his about the Fenway, though. . . “I got to see the mighty Ted Williams/Hit one over the right field wall. . .”
I was born on the Fenway
At Beth Israel Hospi- TALL
Could that help to explain
Why I love the Fenway so WELL?
Nowhere do I feel more at home, it seems
Than on the Fenway, where I’ve dreamed my dreams.
Torres IS the magic bean. - Johnny Disaster
by SituationalLefty on Jun 29, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Thome: IT IS A PLUM HONOR JUST TO BE NOMINATE-ED
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I believe Matt Cain could give Thome a run for his money.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I still get a kick out of Cain imitating his bobblehead.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
His earnestness does indeed rank far above the ML average. I’d say…78.8.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
I’m really impressed that your earnestness detection skills are so fine tuned that you are able to identify scores down to the decimal point.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jun 29, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the spreadsheet-loving statheads think ranking earnestness and stoutosity are outdated ways to evaluate a player. Billy Beane keeps trying to tell me to evaluate tangibles like OPS, but then I said, “Who’s Fabio?” and we all had a good laugh.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
by TheLetter2 on Jun 29, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL IRL
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 29, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
if he's 5' 11"
then I’m 5’ 11". And I’m not
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
LOL SHRIMPY
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I call it
‘delightfully stocky’
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
I don’t think he is, either. That’s his listing at Baseball Reference.
We had a thread not too long ago about why major leaguers lie about their height. I embrace my shortness.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
since I'm built about how I think Uggla is actually built
I’m going to appropriate ‘delightfully stocky’
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
I’ll say I’m delightfully stocky too. I think that’s a positiveeuphemism.
Pease was never an option.
Is pos delightfully stocky as well?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I said he was delightfully stocky.
Nice turn of phrase
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
He smells of bouillon!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotta get Papi in the lineup!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Galootball
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Offense is more important that defense
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I grew up in the bay area and decided I didn't like the DH when I was 5.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Those are not statistically relevant data.
Intangible!
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Enjoyment of baseball need not be objective
Analysis should be.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yes, it should.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
What say you about the analysis-free enjoyment of baseball?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Can I ask you to consider that it is possible for others?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unless I'm mistaken
I’ve never disparaged someone for the way they enjoy the game. I enjoy debates about baseball analysis, but if you don’t care about numbers, then you don’t care, and you’re probably not engaging me in discussion about numbers.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Jun 29, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m hassling you.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you may be mistaken. From what I have seen, one of your standard responses to someone saying how much they “like” a certain player is to bludgeon them with stats.
Not that I care, really. It is just an observation.
(I’m hassling you as well. I actually think you are a pretty interesting fellow)
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
BECAUSE I CAN'T QUIT YOU, DRDC!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You are the reason he wanders.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I feel like we’ve had a real breakthrough here.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
If I have in the past, I apologize
There’s a big difference between “I like a player” and “I think a player is good”. I can really only have some sort of objective opinion about the second.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Then how come
when we waxed rhapsodic about one play that Crawford made last night, you immediately had to point out that he is an “abysmal” baseball player?
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Because
Crawford had the sheer audacity to prevent Aramis Ramirez’ OBP from climbing.
by MySpoonlsTooBig on Jun 29, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe it's because you said "Suck it GP"
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Jun 29, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Ok, that is true. Actually, GP, you are one of the least annoying statheads around here (carefully naming no names).
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
LOL XANTHAN!
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 29, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I am, objectively, the most annoying person on this board.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Jun 29, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
But my opinion exists! Put that on your graph and smoke it!
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
done
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Jun 29, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Not even close.
Although, to give you your due, you can be annoying.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
But you’re so polite and even-tempered.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Exactly
you’re just focussed. You don’t insult people, even obliquely.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
He had to be focused. He was focused.
The thing is, it happened.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
FU!
That would be me.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe we need a Fanpost poll.
Maybe not. Please, I’m kidding, don’t do this.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
I have participated on other internet boards
which probably qualifies me eminently for a nomination, but I respectfully suggest that be deleted. These tend to become ugly and hurt feelings more than they provide humor.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not going there
and I immediately retracted my JOKE idea. Please take it down.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
doesn't bother me
Flag it — only mods can remove ’em, I think.
incorrect
you can delete your own fanpost if you choose to.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
of course -- 'Admin'
Done. I thought it was funny. But then I thought it was clear there weren’t supposed to be anything other than joke nominations.
Well, you appear to have found it. Or someone did.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I did
You look more carefully when you know there is something to find than when you suspect there is nothing.
You can delete from your user “dashboard” homepage or whatever they call it. Or at least you used to be able to…
this
It’s definitely the easiest place to find it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
You could have just sucked it…
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
may you both live in interesting times.
by shaggingflyballs on Jun 29, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You are fun to troll.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
I can imagine.
I find it hard to resist talkin’.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But how can you enjoy a team that continually ignores your advice?
And is designed around pitching and defense? Shouldn’t you switch allegiences to a more sabremetric team? There’s even one that’s local….oh, right, they suck.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Because I'm not giving them advice, I'm posting on an internet board.
And again. Enjoyment of baseball need not be objective. I’m a Giants fan. I root for whatever team they put on the field.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
LOL Wikipedia
Ledée’s late father, Toñito Ledée, was the lead singer of Papo Lucca’s band, Sonora Ponceña.
Ledée, Darryl Strawberry, and Jose Vizcaino are the only players who have played for all four current and former New York franchises—the Yankees, Mets, Dodgers and Giants.
Ledee appeared in the film For Love of the Game (film) as a member of the New York Yankees named Ruiz.
Since early 2009, Ledée has been teaching a salsa dancing class in his spare time.
Wilber Bucardo: Missing?
I wonder how often you’ll have this conversation.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think some people...
…not calling out GiantPain specfically…actually enjoy pointing out management decisions that are “wrong”. Maybe there’s a little bit of self-satisfaction in feeling they’re smarter than Sabean, Bochy, Bobby Evans, etc.
It’s hard to tell for sure, but the tone of a lof posts here leads me to believe that some people have more fun pointing out bad decisions than they do enjoying a win. I was astounded at how quickly the shine of the WS trophy wore off for some people and how quickly Bochy became an “idiot” again.
I’ve certainly second-guessed my share of management decisions, but I always give a benfit of the doubt that more information than we have available went into that decisions.
The thong is, it happened.
To be fair, he can be repetitively strident at times.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
He does have a good command of English
and a rapier-like wit. Even his insults are entertaining.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
I’ve actually noticed that the shakier his argument is, the more flowery the language gets. Still, I agree that it’s usually a good read, all-in-all.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't hate him or anyone here
I would say he knows as much about the game than anyone here. I do think, however, he’s less open-minded about opinions other than his own than I would prefer.
The thong is, it happened.
You’d be surprised.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe the Giants will continue to win
and he won’t even see this.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Bwaa haa haa haa!
And note the post time.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
What is this "breakfast" thing?
I break my fast around 7 pm most days.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I think I've been around here long enough
…for people to know that when I say something like this, it’s not a personal attack on peoples’ character but rather an honest opinion of what I think I’ve observed.
I really hope (and think) people here know how much all of the McCoven mean to me, regardless of how we choose to follow the game/team.
The thong is, it happened.
You propeller with LOVE.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 29, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
And you're the gasoline that fuels my engine
I was going to say the “oil that lubes”, but that would have been taking things too far
The thong is, it happened.
Just because TGWTWS, doesn’t change Bochy’s perceived intelligence level.
With that said, I agree.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
I don't think it changed his intelligence level
But it certainly provided evidence that his methods might not be as unsound as some would lead you to believe.
As I always say, the man has a consistent track record of managing teams that exceed virtually all expectations.
The thong is, it happened.
It’s more of a perceived intelligence level than actual level, which is why I agree with you, and aside with Rowand starting over Torres vs. RHP, I try not to complain too much (although it’s hard some times).
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
I was complaining too
But now we know it was Torres who asked out of the ineup
The thong is, it happened.
Every time Rowand starts?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 30, 2011 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Really he doesn't.
I don’t want to get into a long, drawn-out repetition of previous material, but contrary to superficial impressions, his teams do not exceed expectations.
My ongoing criticisms of Bochy are not wiseassery or one-upsmanship: they are expressions of the the heartfelt distress of experiencing the baseball equivalent of listening to a Stradivarius being clumsily sawed at by a seriously inept performer.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
No need to re-hash
But I can you point me to the previously-discussed points where it was established that his team haven’t exceeded expectations.
I honestly don’t recall seeing it.
The thong is, it happened.
From Owlcroft Corp LLC
2011 San Francisco Giants
Actual Wins: 46
Projected Wins from R/OR results: 41
Error: +5
Projected Wins from TOP/TPP results: 42
Error: +4
his teams do not exceed expectations.
… seems disingenuous, for these current Giants.
by MySpoonlsTooBig on Jun 29, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
If you look . . .
. . . at the actual “expectations” reckonings, you will see that the team is projected to 86 wins right now, which is also where their on-field play projects them. Since 86=86, I do not see that as “exceeding” anything.
Moreover, that glosses over two things: one, that till very recently, the expectations were considerably above the projected actuals; and, even more important, both the expected and projected are (necessarily) based on actual player percentages of available team play time. If one constructed an “expected” based on manual assignment of play time, doling the most out to the best players, the expectations would be nontrivially higher.
If the manager consistently gives too much time to poorer players, of course the “expected” rsults have to deteriorate over time. In the early days of the season, the expected-wins number was 93. Losing Posey has an impact that will net out to something like 3 games, but even so they should be at 91 or so right now (because the 3-game impact only affects the expectation slowly, as the season wears on and Posey’s percentage play time shrinks). Most of the rest of the deterioration from 93 to 86 in a half season is just plain use of the wrong people.
Is that now clear enough?
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What part of that confuses you?
The linked pages explain what is presented on them. If you are still unsure of the meaning of anything there, or here, just ask.
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FWIW
I though Bochy was a bad manager before and after the WS. I’ve never been a Sabes basher, since I think he’s probably an average to above average GM.
But this is a message board. It wouldn’t be fun if we all logged on to agree with everything the Giants did.
And who doesn’t like being right?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
How do you know you're right, tho,
if the team choses to do something else? This is my only problem with the prognosticators/Bochy bashers.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
You don't always get to know
But sometimes you do. Other times you can debate the hypothetical.
I mean, the situation you’re setting up isn’t very fun.
“I think Bochy would do better if they batted someone good in the 2 hold”
“You can’t know that. The team did something else”
“You’re right. Let’s stop talking”
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
“I heartily agree with that roster decision, because I’m sure it’s based on a completely logical set of facts which we’ll never know!”
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by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to start posting this after every lineup.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I know you just like to argue
And I don’t really think that you believe that you can’t have an intelligence conversation with someone unless you disagree with them.
by shaggingflyballs on Jun 29, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I like to talk about baseball. I'm happy to engage in a discussion on any topic.
But, to be honest, I hate circlejerks. If we agree on something, why should we spend time talking about how much we agree? So that we can convince each other how smart we are?
There’s a reason they have a debate club and not and agreement club.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
haha
I thought this was the Argument Clinic!?!
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by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Reminds me of my philosophy professor
When asked to define philosophy in one word, he said, “argument.”
At the time of this discussion, another professor spoke up and she said “no it’s not.”
That is cray-z.
That's not argument!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreeing on disagreeing with the manager
everyday is kinda the same thing
When Bochy posts lineups I think are good, I say that.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The problem I have with your Bochy bash
is it is generally based, at lest as I perceive it, on disagreements over the lineup of the day. Even if you are right on those (and I don’t concede the point) that is but one part of managing. And a lot more goes into that decision than simply putting out what you (we) perceive to be the “best” lineup every day.
Bochy obviously excels at “managing” players. By that I mean, dealing with egos, keeping players fresh etc. That is an important part of the equation.
He is excellent with the bullpen. That is an important part.
The players obviously respect him and play hard for him. Another impt part.
I’m not crazy about what I view as his sit back and wait for the big inning approach offensively, as I don’t think it works for this team. And I too don’t like the lineups he trots out somedays.
Having said all that, I have come to the conculsion that he is a terrific manager. As for this year, to have this team, with all it has had happened at 12 games over at essentially the halfway point is remarkable.
IMHO, if he wasn’t blessed with the once-in-a-lifetime (fuck off Philly!) pitching staff, he’d have been shown the door long ago.
Thepitching staff includes the pen and it's use
which is entirely under the command of Bochy.
Seems to be working out pretty well.
That's a non-sequitur.
A BAD bullpen, or a good one used poorly could torpedo even this great starting staff.
No, it's not.
I don’t deny his proper use of the bullpen. My point is that, in and of itself, great bullpen usage does not constitute a great manager.
I’m hard-pressed to find any other strengths of his.
I gotcha. But my point (in counter
you yours that if it weren’t for the pitching…) was that the pen is part of the pitching and he is working that masterfully.
You didn’t seem to give him any credit for that initially.
This argument can be applied to almost any situation though
I’ve heard the same thing said about Sabean and Baker having Bonds, Torre having the biggest payroll, etc.
For some people, Bochy gets all the blame for any failings and no credit for any success.
The thong is, it happened.
“If Joe Montana didn’t have Jerry Rice…”
Or, I guess, any combination of two golden era 49ers legends.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Steve Young thre more TDs to Rice than
Montana did.
Assertions and proofs:
Extraordinary claims famously require extraordinary proofs. The claim:
Bochy obviously excels at "managing" players. By that I mean, dealing with egos, keeping players fresh etc. That is an important part of the equation.Where is the supporting proof? The only way “managing players” could have meaning is if the players are doing better than would be expected of them. No Giants save Vogelsong are doing materially better than anyone would expect, and many are doing much worse.
So what do you offer as proof to support the assertion?
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Players seem to like playing for him
I think that at least partially addresses the “managing egos” part. I’ve heard time and again that he treats players like grown ups
The thong is, it happened.
I'm sure of it.
I think he’s a swell guy, the kind players will like a lot, and a very decent one, too. Truly.
But that is not the same as somehow squeezing extra between-the-lines performance out of players, which is what was being claimed.
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That vindicates everything.
Just like the people who win money at craps in Vegas prove their superior gambling skills.
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There’s no fault in making assessments and decisions based on the information available to you
Just like there’s nothing wrong with the caveat that there may yet be information that is not available to you.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I always give a benfit of the doubt that more information than we have available went into that decisions.
I prefer this. Not to slavishly defer to authority or anything, but since I can’t do much about these decisions anyway, I’ll hang on the allowance that maybe they know something I don’t. I’m comfortable with not knowing things.
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For instance
Torres was not sleeping, hence Rowand was getting all those starts against righties.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Wait - Bochy wasn't deliberately trying to lose games
to satisfy the forum?
This is a GREAT example
I was pulling my imaginary hair out with Rowand starting against RHP, but then the news came out that Torres asked out of the lineup for medical reasons.
We collectively buried Bochy, yet failed to mea culpa when the truth surfaced.
I’m guessing there are countless other things going on behind closed doors. Krukow said Burrell went to Bochy and pratcially insisted on starting against Doug Davis. Since Burrell apparently wasn’t insisting on starting against all other pitchers, this is news.
Perhaps the team is so unified and ready to put egos aside that Bochy can ask players who they feel good against and who they don’t:
“Hey cody, you’re .400 against tomorrow night’s starter in your career. You own this guy?”
“Nah, it’s all ducksnorts and seeing-eye grounders. I hate facing that guy. Aaron always hits him hard, start him.”
If such a conversation took place, who could blame Bochy for starting Rowand over Ross in a game?
The thong is, it happened.
There is a difference between ignoring metrics and not metrics applicable
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Yep, and since we (out here) would not liekly know what
is metrics applicable and what is not, it MIGHT be more fair in the long run to presume that someone in the Giants organization knows more than we do (i.e, Torres recent benching is a great example).
But you can't just do that
Because to do so renders every discussion pointless. There is always information that may not be available. You cannot take that as the position on every issue.
You discuss base on the information at hand, if more information becomes available, you adjust your opinion based on the sample size and information to date. That is how every discussion should go, not “I don’t have complete information, so I will just default to trusting front office”.
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I'm not suggesting we just assume there's a good reason, just be open to the possibility
Isn’t “The numbers suggest Torres should be starting instead of Rowand. I wonder why Bochy is starting him?” more resonable than “What an idiot!”?
Bochy got brutalized for that decision to pinch run Whiteside for Posey last year. He was mocked for saying “Eli’s a little faster”, but having seen a little more of Whiteside on the bases since then, I’m certain he’s a lot faster than Posey. The decision didn’t work out and could very well have been the wrong one, but it certainly was based on knowledge and information that he didn’t pull out of jcb’s ass.
The thong is, it happened.
jcb's ass isn't getting enough play these days on MCC
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that didn't come out exactly the way I intended
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
This famous . . .
. . . “proof” that Bochy is usually making some brilliant but arcane move hangs on Torres sititing out two days recently. That seems an extraordinarily thin and frayed thread on which to hang the entire weight of “Bochy has occult reasons for everything” argument.
I spent a decade in and out of clubhouses ansd front offices, and I have some idea of how often there is some unrecognized reason for lineup moves, and that how often is “not very”. And when there is such a reason, 99.44% of the time, it surfaces within a couple of days after (as the Torres sleep problem did). That is just not what is going on day after day with Bochy’s lineups.
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by owlcroft on Jun 29, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're acting like we agree with everything Bochy does
I certainly don’t.
I’m just open to the possibility that circumstances beyond our knowledge play into decisions.
The thong is, it happened.
Sometimes, surely.
But, as I said, I am as sure as sure can be without being there every day that a) it is really quite infrequent, and b) if such cases happen, everyone will know about them soon after.
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That's my point
Maybe Burrell is the one telling Bochy who he should be in against and who he hates facing.
It would be pretty cool if Burrell knows he hurts the team defensively when he’s in, so really has to produce at the plate to justify a start, so he’s picking and choosing the starts where he thinks he’ll contribute. It’s an odd concept, but would go along with a guy who played for $1million just because he liked being on this team.
The thong is, it happened.
My estimation of Bochy as a manager would suffer greatly if his players are dictating their playing time.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, that, too.
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I wouldn't call this possible scenario dictating the lineup
I would call it respecting players enough to gather input before filling out the card.
If he’s told the five outfielders “You’ll all get playing time and you’ll all get bench time. You can help me give us the best chance to win by being honest with how you’re feeling, how you’re seeing it and how you hit against certain pitchers.”, I would think players would LOVE that sort of respect.
Sort of the opposite of Alou’s style. “Talk to players? What for?”
The thong is, it happened.
This is more of a sad state of the Giants than anything else,
but:
Who is better?
Burriss? Tejada? Hall? Burrell?
Crawford? Whitey?
Can you be more specific as to who you would rather lead off?
that was hyperbolic
But I see both Ross & Schierholtz as better leadoff options when Torres does not start (as well as Fontenot when he returns.)
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 29, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Let’s say the players available to play are, against a righty:
Whiteside/Stewart C
Huff 1B
Hall 2B
Sandoval 3B
Crawford SS
Burrell/Nate/Rowand/Ross OF
In some combination, Huff, Sandoval, Burrell, Nate and Ross should all be in the top 5 of the lineup. The others have no right to ever be there.
That is cray-z.
why
does something like this even need to be said? My goodness.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 30, 2011 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand, even now . . .
. . . after his recent spurt, has a .299 OBP, and last year it was .281, so that’s no freak (and it would be .267 now without his 7 HBPs). Many Giant batters have significantly better OBPs—even Nate Schierholtz and Bill Hall are a little better. If one had to choose, probably Cody Ross.
And let’s not even start on the chronic abuse of the # 2 hole (for which there is at least the excuse that such abuse is common).
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It’s a good thing this thread is just about dead or the phrase “chronic abuse of the #2 hole” really could have had some frightening repercussions.
I’m considering putting it in my sig.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 30, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Goofus, you are taking all of the fun out of this for me.
What a bastard, attacking with reasonableness and facts.
I’m in this line. I think if you do a lot of lineup creation and player analysis, though, it becomes easier to criticize actual managerial decisions even if you have less information than they do. But then we get into the discussion of whether or not data such as Torres being unable to sleep/feeling out of it, could be taken into account.
Pease was never an option.
Mostly when I’m negative here, it’s because I’m venting and not because of any sort of intellectual competition I’m trying to play. For the most part, this is the only place where I can shrug off my frustrations with the team, no manny how stupid they are. My other social groups either don’t care or don’t want to hear it. And while I’m sure there are those here who don’t want to hear it, most seem happy to tolerate and/or commiserate. It’s kind of a unique social environment.
But I don’t think any of us would honestly follow the team if we didn’t derive the lion’s share of our enjoyment and satisfaction with the team from wins, and, in the absence of wins, those special performances that make losing tolerable.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
no manny how stupid they are.
What you did there. I see it.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
this is the only place where I can shrug off my frustrations with the team, no manny how stupid they are.
LOL FREUDIAN SLIP!
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I just make gifs and movies when I want to vent
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You rant as well.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah but those are more for entertainment purposes than anything else
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Proof
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m going. I’ll give a report.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jun 29, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
What if I came here for...
…very much obliged, say hey!
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 29, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he’ll get the OF tag on Yahoo! and I can have some positional flexibility.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Ron Washington says it should be no problem!
Vlad just looks at his shoes and shakes his head.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Fun fact!
Unless I’m misreading the stat sheet, Johnny Damon now has exactly as many career hits as Ted Williams.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Interesting
Of course Williams missed all of three seasons and large parts of two others serving in WW II and Korea. Still Damon’s been pretty good for a long time. It looks as though he might just be able to hang around long enough to get to 3000 hits. I believe that he would be the worst player to achieve that benchmark (best season 4.6 WAR, career 45.3).
Yes, I don’t think Damon will be challenging him on the all-time combat missions flown list.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny's a little old to enlist now
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HE HAD HIS CHANCE
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s also fair to assume that he hates his country.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
The assumption is implicit.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Or
bass fish caught
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Oooh ... burn
(freezer burn, that is)
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Yea but #9 was not fun
Therefore, still 25 fun facts.
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on Jun 29, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I have not refreshed the page
So I’m just going to assume you deleted one.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jun 29, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Fun Fact #1 contains 3 fun facts
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 29, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, though,
Perhaps he could bottle the “erstwhile Giants” magic that Vogelsong has bathed in this season.
Your 2010 Giants – You gotta like these kids the 2nd time around!
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by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s almost like the philosophy of Gritty Gamerness has become so paramount to the franchise that even the players they draft aren’t good until they become gritty gamers.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jun 29, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
YAY MATT CAPPS
LOLGERS
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Picture
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
by SnowLeopard on Jun 29, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Fun Fact #12 blew my mind
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Mine too
What a picture.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
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by free f.p. #14 on Jun 29, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
SPOILERS
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw that movie while still having stitches in my fingertip from a (possibly self inflicted) injury. So uncomfortable.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jun 29, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember a scene in a Lor episode of TNG, where Data pulls his fingernail back to access some circuit or other. I was pretty grossed out.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
That rings a bell.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I really dislike this director guy.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t really care for that movie.
It’s an obvious feat of both storytelling and filmmaking, and I can appreciate it on a purely objective level. But, man, Aronofsky knows how to go overkill on the assholes.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
So now I’ve seen six of the 2010 Best Picture nominees, excepting The Kids Are Alright, The Fighter, True Grit, and Winter’s Bone, and chances are good that I won’t see either of the two former.
Accepting those exceptions, which is to say that there remains wiggle room, The King’s Speech and Toy Story 3 seem to be the clear winners of the group for me – and of those two, TS3 probably has the edge. I’m tempted to list with Inception with them, but I think that movie is as frustrating and silly as it is entertaining and occasionally brilliant, and just not quite on the level.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I recommend The Fighter. It’s so good it’s surprising. True Grit and The Kids Are All Right are both good but if you’re not going to see them I don’t think you’re missing much, ultimately. Haven’t seen Winter’s Bone but have only heard good things.
For Hollywoodish reasons, it’s difficult for me to watch a movie about a white boxer that isn’t Raging Bull (which I plan to watch). And for I-can’t-take-him-seriously reasons, it’s hard for me to watch a movie with Mark Wahlberg.
So, it’s kind of a double whammy.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Like Raging Bull, The Fighter is based on a true story.
Too, that Mark Wahlberg doesn’t derail the whole production and manages to pull a Renee Zelwegger-esque performance (doesn’t elevate, doesn’t hinder, but is a perfectly serviceable actor) out of his ass is why the movie is surprisingly good.
The thing that makes me want to see Raging Bull is that it’s a difficult story and not an inspirational one.
It bothers me some that Hollywood has made such a killing exploiting the inspirational stories of white men from a sport that has made such a killing exploiting black men. It took some massive star power to get a big Hollywood movie about Ali, and beyond that movie you really only have The Hurricane. It’s just a bit off, is all.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
If it brings public attention to the injustices of the robox league, I’m damn well for it!
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
See
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by troymccluresf on Jun 29, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
But also Mark Wahlberg.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Winter's Bone is good
but depressing. " Bleak, haunting, and yet still somehow hopeful" was one review I read.
The storyline is pretty much a stock good people vs bad people, but there are some very strong individual performances. It is not a Tourist Promo for backwoods Missouri.
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Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
I really liked that movie.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me put it this way…I enjoyed the movie, but had a really strange emotional reaction afterward. It is a film that will stay with you for a few days.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
Bamboozled did that to me. I don’t think I’ve had a stronger emotional reaction to another movie.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I will not!
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Scott Pilgrim IS a dick.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Fun Fact:
The Dodgers couldn’t score on Scott Baker.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
not-so-fun fact
The Rockies are scarier than the Dbax, even 7 games out.
I actually think that is a fun fact.
You are more scared of a team 6.5 games out than the team closer to us in the standings.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
True, but we’re getting to the point in the season where historically, 7 games is A LOT (I know, 1993 says hi)
Fun Fact or irony
The Rockies are scarier than the Dbax, even 7 games out.
81 games is the halfway point and tonight is the 81st game!
Through 81 games last year the SF Giants were 41-40 and 7.5 games behind the Padres.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 29, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate to admit this
but I have a really bad feeling this is as good as it is going to get this year.
I missed jctgamers anti-FLA rant the other day
I used to be mildly irked by them, but now I just want them to go away. Instead they are getting a new stadium and will be kept around to service the public debt used to pay for it. They burned their team down twice after winning, and survive on salary kickback checks while sending players like Cody Ross away rather than pay them anything. They are the crumbs of MLB’s couch.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that last sentence as “crumbs of MLB’s cooch.”
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jun 29, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Dolt
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:07 PM PDT reply actions
Fun fact #2 is in jeopardy
The Pads first-round draft pick from this year, Cory Spangenberg, is a 20 year-old second baseman who is hitting .436/.603/.641 for Eugene in the NWL (yesterday he was 2-2 with three walks against S-K).
there’s a Donovan Tate?
Huh… I watch this guy Tate Donovan every Wednesday on the DirecTV channel for Damages. Anyone like that but me?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004883/
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 29, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Tate Donovan: voice of Hercules, Misha Collins’ dad on The OC, Jennifer Aniston’s boyfriend before Brad Pitt, starred with Sandra Bullock in Love Potion No. 9, appeared in Memphis Belle.
Pease was never an option.
He didn’t mean to stiff his clients. He was trying to provide for those leeches, Marissa and Julie.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
I was thinking more of how he started Season 3, but then, Season 3 was hopefully not canon.
Pease was never an option.
I like to think it was an illusion in the mind of Caleb as he lay on his deathbed.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Marissa deserved her fate after driving Johnny crazy and destroying his life.
Pease was never an option.
/crashes into the TV
/crashes into the butter
/crashes into the toast
/crashes into the lawn
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
the Diamondbacks portion of Cody Ransom’s Wikipedia page is depressing
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 29, 2011 1:09 PM PDT reply actions
heres cody ransom's 60 inch vertical leap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7XZX946hWI
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
OVER 100,000!!!!!
also, checken legs
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 29, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
*chicken
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on Jun 29, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG
A 2009 YouTube video of his 60-inch box jump in a training session has received more than 100,000 hits; Ransom has said that his vertical leap is 60 inches.7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7XZX946hWI
Wilber Bucardo: Missing?
/wonders why Cody Ransom would have a wiki
and wonders what it would take payment wise for me to even look at it
How the fuck did the 2007 team win 8 in a row?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Yeah, I didn’t remember that at all. Had to check.
by non sequitur on Jun 29, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I looked it up. It’s a combination of 1) Bonds, 2) good starting pitching, and 3) Doug Davis was one of the opposing starters.
Fun Fact: at the end of that run, the team was tied for 1st place
Fun Fact 2: as late as May 8, the team was 1.5 games out of 1st place
Not So Fun Fact: the team proceeded to lose eleventy-nine games in a row and finish 19 games out
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 29, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
At some point in my life I’m going to forget that 2004 was not Bonds’ last season.
by non sequitur on Jun 29, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
This. My reaction to this comment was, wait, Bonds was still playing in 2007?
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 29, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Benitez got 5 straight saves!
They might be Giants...but they are definitely WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
"And what was once torture for an entire city became a magical ride into an Orange October."
Lowry had two of the wins. :( Still lamenting his not being around.
by non sequitur on Jun 29, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Noah!
:(
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 29, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
better question
Why the hell did I watch so many of their games? Unwatchable.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, for some reason, I’m just eating this content up!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 29, 2011 1:12 PM PDT reply actions
False.
If he wrote an persuasive article about how all Giants fans should become Dodger fans, I think you would no longer read.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
You clearly didn’t listen to the podcast, serious guy
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 29, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Eggs
Milk
Shortstop
Cheese
Razors
Catcher
Tickets
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Squid
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 29, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
But they are always slightly bruised when you buy them from there.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
nice
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Cody Ransom, Giant: .238/.298/.362
Miguel Tejada: .229/.257/.308
Brandon Crawford: .198/.266/.291
Urf.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Crawford's vertical leap is 65" tho
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Al Davis is interested
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
No
C Izturis safe at first on error by shortstop C Ransom, R Ventura scored, J Hernandez to third, A Perez to second.
Wilber Bucardo: Missing?
Heh
Game, set, match
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
This game cost me 300 dollars
I bought tickets for the following day on ebay during the 8th inning. I never made it down.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I broke items.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 29, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You turned down the opportunity for a beach party episode?
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Natto didn’t bring a watermelon.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
someone mentioned
HIllenbrand in the last thread, and I stopped comparing his numbers.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Fun Fact!!
Juan Uribe – Dodger : .206 / .275 / .304 @ $21 million in I.O.U.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 29, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
EVEN WORSE!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
automatic penalty for giving up 10 runs to the Giants
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
The Giants’ lineup is the litmus test for replacement-level pitcher.
by non sequitur on Jun 29, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
“You can’t even get the Giants out? Get the fuck outta here!”
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
SWOOP!
Send him to Fresno.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I may be falling into a chasm here, but didn't A-Rod hit over .300/.375/.600 as a SS for Texas?
Croix De Candlestick: You'll be a better person for reading | My adopted Giant: the next Buster Posey, Johnny Monell
Fucking equal signs.
How do they work? Hold on a second …
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 29, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You could start a fire with that kind of furious fact-check fapping.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 29, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
You sound as if you have experience with furious fact-check fap fires.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
He’s doused a few in his time.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
...and make sure you take off the Snow White Halloween costume, 'cause those
things will ignite in a …..
/oh
Use flame-retardent lube when you fap
problem solved!
This gentleman could’ve used that information, Goofus!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 29, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He almost averages that per 162. His SLG% is 30 points low.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Cody Ransom can go to hell
His name give me flashbacks to the “Steve Finley Game.”
I was at Dodger Stadium for that one. No bueno.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
A 7 RUN NINTH INNING!
Man that was awful
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Hermanson was getting squeezed!
And then Ransom came in as a defensive replacement and committed an error! Oh god…
You were there for that? Ugh. I turned the TV off as soon as Finley hit the ball.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Sitting in the bleachers in Dodgers stadium
As soon as the ball was in the air my friends and I immediately headed towards the exits and were pelted with beer and hot dogs.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
2002 is the worst obviously
But this is a close close 2nd for me because I was there
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
2002 was bad
But I was also a bit younger. In the big picture, sure, 2002 was worse. But man, that Dodgers game just turned to shit so quickly, and it was the fucking Dodgers.
I had my heart ripped out in 2002, my cheerios pee’d in in 2003, and then I got that last kick in the nads in ’04.
That is cray-z.
kinda hard to not hate Colorado after that. I pretty much hate them more than the Dodgers. Hell Arizona too. And San Diego.
It’s weird that the Dodgers are my second favorite team in the division, but at least they’re historic and legitimate.
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 29, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hating the Rockies is easier when you realize that they
fly an “NL WIldcard” flag at Coors Field.
They don't have a choice
The franchise has never won the National League West. I guess they can just hang the ONE pennant that they won.
Pictured : eric byrnes
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I was talking to a Braves fan last year
And I was saying that I was really looking forward to the Giants beating the Braves in the post-season (this was in like August or something) because I was still bitter about 1993.
His response: I was 1
I wanted to slap him.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jun 29, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
oh man, you missed out. 93 was quite a club. That offense and the 2011 Giants pitching would = like a 159-3 team.
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 29, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Clark. Williams. Bonds.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jun 29, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
TWO TWENTY GAME WINNERS
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
And then
SALOMON TORRES OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I have a scale like that too
2002 was drink out of depression and completely ruin my girlfriend at the time’s homecoming dance experience
2003: Was pure rage. I think I flipped over the living room table in my dorm on the JT Snow play.
2004: Was just sorrow. I don’t think a word was said on the drive back to San Diego from LA
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
For me the scale would go like this…
1) 2002 … because they were so damn close. Bonds’, Kent’s, Aurilia’s and Snow’s last best chance for a ring, and Nen gave his career for it.
2) 2000 – Probably my favorite Giants team ever 1 thru 25 as far as the combination of guys. Ellis Burks was so cool.
3) 1999 – Bonds, Clark and Matt Williams? On the same team? For real? Plus probably the best bench of hitters any Giants team has ever had. Kind of like the anti-2002 team. Done in by mediocre 3-5 starters.
4) 2001 – They got hot too late. You get the feeling that maybe they could’ve done something in the postseason if they could’ve just snuck in there.
5) 2003 You want to believe in them, and even though they won 100 games, I never quite bought in all the way. No way they could’ve been better after losing Kent, right?
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 29, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant 1993 for the third one, obviously.
/idiot.
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 29, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually had to stop thinking about baseball for a few months after ’02. It sucked hard.
I was posting on a board with Bacci and Crash at the time. 9 years ago feels like 20 though.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, I’ll say it. I’m a St. Louis Rams fan and a diehard, lifelong Giants lover.
In the space of approx. 11 months, my 2 favorite teams conspired to pull off, arguably, 2 of the top 5 all time choke jobs.
2002 was a tough year.
How did u end up a rams and giants fan?
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Dad grew up in LA... passed it along to me even though I grew up in San jose.
Funny thing though – he said he could never quite bring himself to be a Dodgers fan as a boy. Adopted the “anti-Dodgers” instead.
Miss you, Dad.
DUDE
You were Larsat3rd back then, weren’t you?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Correct
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You were on the ESPN board too?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
A very long time ago
I did post on the ESPN boards for a bit.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
So did I
for a little while I wrote an NL West column in the late 90s for a website that is long defunct. I used to post a few previews when I first started on the ESPN board. I made fun of Tony Gwynn’s weight a lot….
I posted under JCTIAO.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
man that was over 13 years ago
Holy shit.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
LOLD
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 30, 2011 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions
2000 was also up there for me, maybe 2nd
Best record in baseball, first round against the wild card. Domination in game 1. Estes’ 2nd base play in game 2 and ex giants coming through in the top of the 10th. Agbayani in game 3… and the Bobby F. Jones game… gawd, that game.
That one stung for a very long time…
2002 didn’t hit me that hard because it was still a great season and a hell of a ride. 1993 was AWFUL during the season (I had torn my knee up and made it through that last weekend only through the magic of pain killers) but, again, I was so proud of the team I was okay with it (sort of). But ’03 still brings the bile up like nothing else. I actually refused to watch Game 4 because of how awful Game 3 only to turn it on to see the Giants furiously rallying, and, well, you know.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jun 29, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
2003 didn’t bother me all that much, because I didn’t think they were going to get passed the Cubs anyway. Ditto with 1997, just a fun, exciting team, but really no business being in the playoffs.
2002 was very sad, but in general, things went better than expected.
1993, 2000, though… ouch. They had the best or one of the top 2 teams in baseball those years…
The 2003 Cubs...
were a VERY good team. Make no mistake, Bartman, curse, etc…
I was at games 3 and 4 in '03.
My cousin is a Marlins STH and we did a home-and-home for the series. I was about 75’ from J Cruz Jr when he clankmitted in RF in the 9th inning of game 3.
And lots of postmortems over Cuban food after the shock of game 4.
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
I went to Game 1 of the Marlins/Giants series when Schmidt shut down the Marlins and the place was rocking and waving orange towels and you couldn’t but help good thing were on the horizon. And then Sidney Ponson happened, and then Jose Cruz Jr. happened, and then if only Felipe had somebody in the dugout who could pinch run for JT….
For some reason 2000 doesn’t bother me much because I missed the last few innings of Game 2 (heard the JT Snow home run on the radio but missed the rest of it) and most of Game 3. It’s less painful when you don’t watch.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jun 29, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The last game I went to at Chavez Ravine was this one. Bonds had 7 RBI. I also managed to go to Gross’ no hitter. That was less fun.
Still, it was an OK experience for Giants fans in LA in the early 90’s. I suspect it is far from that now. If I was going to go today, I would not wear one piece of Giants gear.
the Finley game
was a perfect illustration of Giants fandom for me. “Well, that’s how they decided to lose this one.” It was just so perfectly ordinary and expected. I wasn’t surprised, or shocked, or anything. Kind of numb.
Then those bastards went and picked off the scab last year by winning and everything.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Go Kansas City!
Oh. Are we not worried about the Padres this year? Sorry, rooting against them is still an automatic reflex.
The Curse Of Buster Posey Is Nothing To Be Trifled With
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions
Trifled is a fun word.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never eaten one.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone should invent a three-barreled rifle and call it that.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
!!!
Sorry for the size. I can never remember the way to force display at a certain height.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
like this, but omit the space between the "<" and "img" in the actual code
< img src=“place source here” height = 300px>
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
Height! Thanks!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Zach Duke
Yay Hannahan
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I must say
I was impressed when I saw that Cody Ransom had somehow put up a .770 OPS in his career. It really made me wonder a) how that’s happened, b) why’s it gone unnoticed, and c) why all the team changes?
Then I figured it all out.
That is cray-z.
Another fun fact
“Cody Ransom” anagrams into MAD SCORN, YO.
(as well as CONDOM RAYS. Make of that whatever you will)
Anagram of "SF Giants World Series Champs" = SHARP, ORGASMIC, ENDLESS SWIFT
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Jun 29, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions
Condom Rays! The next name change for Tampa Bay.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Safe Sex night!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Stuttering John Tamargo anagrams to
“A stagger hurt jinn motto”. Take of that whatever you like.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Without comment
From 1998-present
Oakland A’s: 1168-1016
SF Giants: 1168-1016
I am not making this up.
http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/6AReq
http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/JZ2yf
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
MONEYBALL WUZ WRONG
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 29, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Beane took over in 1998, which is why I started this comparison in the first place, considering that Sabean started just a year before that.
But considering that one of those teams had Barry Bonds and the other had the A’s payroll… I can say with something close to certainty which GM I would have rather had.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
That's bananas! I agree with you as well about the GM, right
up to the flag that flies over AT&T park
I was being sarcastic
I would agree with you, I’d take Beane over Sabes in a heartbeat.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 29, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m surprised they have the same number of games played. I thought there was a game 163 in there somewhere
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jun 29, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s right. Funny how that worked out perfectly for this example.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jun 29, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The win per dollar difference has to be very disparate though.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
As is the win per fan attended.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
would the Blue Jays deal Aaron Hill?
he’s really struggling this year, but there’s more upside with his bat than most of the available middle infielders and he plays good defense.
Thing A
Yes
Doesn’t Brett Lawrie play 2B?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
he’s been playing 3B in the minors this year, but Bautista moved back to 3B recently so I dont know what their plan for Lawrie is when he comes back from his injury
Thing A
The GM swears that once Bautista starts playing 3B he's gonna stay
The Lawrie kid is legit!
i know he's a 2B by trade
I wouldn’t be surprised if they moved Hill to make room for Lawrie, who is allegedly a great prospect.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
He sucked last year, too
His BABIP was something like .196 though, or something similarly ridiculous
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on Jun 29, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
AA is too good a GM to sell low on the guy
Plus we have Sanchez signed for next year too
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I was thinking
next year maybe Hill could play the same kind of role DeRosa was supposed to play last year or this year. He’s got a little bit of experience at 3B and a tiny bit at SS and we don’t have a lot of infield depth for next year.
Thing A
he blogged the other day
that he is going to switch from a fungo bat to a regular bat in his bp sessions. So, yes.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, they did just embark on the Bautista 3B experiment, too.
Maybe they need to get rid of an infielder.
Maybe.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Heh.
All I know is they wanted to get Thames in the outfield.
Bautista goes to third, Nix goes… well, I’m sure he’s somewhere.
Anyway, they’re seven games out of the wild card.
I’m going to daydream on it for a bit.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Hill is tough to figure out. He definitely became a different player when he started to hit more fly balls, but after the initial HR spike his other stats plummeted.
The weird thing about last year was that he had a .205/.271/.394 with 26 HR, and a .196 BABIP. That’s somewhat explainable with his 10.6 (!!) LD %.
But this year his LD% is up to 19.3, and he still has a .268 BABIP. His ISO and HR/FB have cratered, and his walk rate is down. It seems clear that someone needs to get him to stop trying to hit HR. If that happened, he might be a pretty good player at AT&T, but if he tries to hit HR it would be a disaster.
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 29, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I've seen 90% of Hill's ABs this year - they're AWFUL
He’s turned into a pull happy home run chaser.
He's always been pull happy.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
All my other players to do really well.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Either a strike out.
Or an error on a foul pop up, then a homer.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
At least in my league, your batted just gets credit for a hit, won’t get an RBI, but it is likely that he will score and thus giv
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
IGNORE THAT
I hit post when I meant to hit cancel.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
What you said was right, just needed to finish the sentence.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Which I was planning on doing in a clearer, more gramatically correct way. But alas.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah gotcha.
I thought you meant you were going to cancel saying it because you no longer agreed with it.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
I should have ended in aghhhhhh. Like In Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The pitcher goes 9 innings, gives up 3 hits and 3 unearned runs. Your batter goes 3 for 3 with 3 doubles, 3 stolen bases and scores on errors 3 times..
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on Jun 29, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You hope
that you remember to keep your mouth shut because NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR POKEMONZ.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
I think he’s going to need to notify his health care provider soon.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
“If erections last for more than 4 hours, get more ladies!”
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 29, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this a mascot for a new Japanese ballclub?
Osaka Male Enhancement Conglomerate Stingers!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
They blame it on the costume maker
But the team should have known better than to hire me to wear the costume
The thong is, it happened.
Tell the whole story
You got fired because you kept running into the backs of female fans.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
…in the fourth inning
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 29, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I know. But I was enjoying it while it lasted.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't even begin to consider it a no-hitter until the 6th.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
I need to finish my work and get ready to sit behind home plate for Lincecum!
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on Jun 29, 2011 2:00 PM PDT reply actions
Bastard!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 29, 2011 2:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
DAMN YOU!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, Ryan Franklin released too
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Giants scored a bunch on him, too
that seems to be the cutoff
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 29, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Can someone post the “Chapter 11” Dodgers jersey pic?
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2011 2:04 PM PDT reply actions
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
thanks
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on Jun 29, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Woohoo
The Giants don’t have much interest in Cleveland’s Orlando Cabrera, writes Heyman.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Yay!
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Jun 29, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
RBI BATS
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
EXPECT THE ONES THAT WEREN'T!!!
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Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
by bondslegend on Jun 29, 2011 2:09 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
BTW
how the hell did you find that picture Grant?!! God damn.
Extremely proud adoptive parent of Paul E. Stanley, WORLD CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO GIANT
Thanks to roger
I've never been happier to have Crabs
11/1/10
Fun Fact #109
109 is a prime number.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Plus 1200848653752901131382060640000246848042224868228268640446282860268240440004862042420864880680000444842082682640460400006204822488004068262422266442002442242466266284820626226646008264286444448228044888420886484824280686244.
Aka, 109^109.
Why doesn’t it have 109 digits?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
/searches frantically for a prime number with 109 digits
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes the nerbiness of this board still surprises me.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
This nuetron walks into a bar
orders a beer. Starts drinking. Asks bartender, “How much I owe you.” Bartender says, “For you … no charge.”
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
There must be a lot of them.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure this is a prime number:
1168489079156465704987173290774096471177444024124720198139827803196157871127649219224446996884272620699035171
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Might take a line break or two.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
nvm, it's not prime anyways.
I think this one is tho, or at least WolframAlpha can’t factor.
41348568018992330153
24412852765672276821
04064776168713963264
90854426404462621445
68240635904000000000
000000001
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
it gets cut off on the right.. but it should have 222
109^109 ~= 1.200849e+222
Mmm...pie!
The 109th digit of pi is 6.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really "new" news...
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Rest and rehab for 8 weeks b4 they reassess. Long way to go. RT @itsallyduhh How has Freddy been doing? Any news in the past week?
13 minutes ago
Heh
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Hey, they posted the Keith Law poscast.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Felix is looking rather pedestrian today.
I really needed him to have an awesome day since my Pokemon opponent had Cliff Lee yesterday.
OT: Any TV show recommendations?
I know the big ones, GoT.. Looking for anything under the radar, especially comedies.
Wilber Bucardo: Missing?
Police Squad and the original, full-length, dubbed Iron Chef.
Or did you mean, currently broadcast shows?
Current or recent would be better.
I have seen those Iron Chef ones though. Intense.
Wilber Bucardo: Missing?
Channel 26 used to have them
Our household set up weekly homemade pizza parties around them. Our roomate made the dough a couple days before, because two days in the fridge made it just a little better. He would spin them into pies, we would top them. There was a standing invitation to everyone we know, so long as they let us know ahead of time and brought beer. Highlights were when guests spoke Japanese. I wish I knew why, but the show seemed to be totally hilarious to all of them, gaijin or not.
I’m on Season 2 of Parks and Rec. Pretty damn funny.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Not comedies, but:
Sons of Anarchy is good, only 2 seasons in and not talked about much
I thought season 2 was pretty disappointing but I’m still gonna watch season 3 whenever they get it on netflix.
WWRWD?
It’s pretty divorced from reality, but quite entertaining in a biker, violent soap opera kind of way.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think I was taking it too seriously after season 1. It’s deifnitely entertaining though.
WWRWD?
There are plot holes you can drive a van loaded with assault rifles through…
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Just finished season 3!!!!!
I was actually on SoA overload by the early part of season 3 but they really wrapped it all up nicely. cant wait for season 4
by projectmayhem713 on Jun 29, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone better get this joke.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jun 29, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave's not here man.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The Daves we Know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DojefyS4wWI
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jun 29, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit, that link sucks.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/173712/kids-in-the-hall-the-daves-i-know
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jun 29, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll believe that’ll happen when the Veronica Mars movie happens
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jun 29, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Along time ago ::sniff:: we used to be friends ::sniff::sniff:: but I
haven’t thought of you latelyatallllllllll ::bawls::
AMC should’ve just aired season one of VM instead of that crap The Killing.
VM S1 is still pretty awesome to watch, even when you know the ending. That’s probably the best season of television I’ve ever seen.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jun 29, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I certainly don’t doubt there ARE better seasons out there.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jun 29, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, season 4 of The Wire requires foreknowledge...
VM does not. And it’s not depressing.
VM can certainly hang on for a good long while in the “Best Season of Television” discussion.
I didn’t like season 4.
I really loved seasons 1-3 though.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
I know. I kepy waiting for it to kick in...but, alas, no.
I dearly loved the other characters in the other seasons…
This!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I’d go something like 2 ≥ 3 ≥ 1 >> 4 >>> 5
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
The Greek is awesome.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Not as good as
String or Marlo. We didn’t know enough about The Greek to care one way or the other about him.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
David Simon
can make you care about a totally irredeemable human being. This is the magic of The Wire.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Because they are not irredeemable so much as successes in their particular milieu.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 29, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Clay Davis is one of the scariest villians in The Wire because multiple examples exist in real life.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
To be fair
there’s lots of Stringer’s and Marlo’s too. More, cause they don’t live long.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
True, True
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
^5
Season 2 is my favorite as well. Labor unions, man.
I don’t know why I like TV in proportion to how much it destroys the things I love.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 29, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
4, 2, 3, 1, 5- I like the really sad, tragic seasons, the ones that you have to drink to get through
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jun 29, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
lineup today
CF Torres
2B Burriss
3B Sandoval
1B Huff
LF Ross
RF Nate
SS Tejada
C Stewart
P Lincecum
Boy, the Giants really need to trade for a middle infielder and a catcher. But I feel like I’ve said that…
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Seriously. Wouldn’t tonight be a game time to play him, especially as Ross went two last night?
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jun 29, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, plus the outfield at Wrigley is so small you don’t get as much benefit from good defensive outfielders.
I bet you all feel very silly now
after Burrell did nothing in this game. O wait…
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 30, 2011 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Why Burriss AND Tejada. That is like a blackhole of suck over there.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Hot hand, NERB!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s fine, I guess.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this statement. He’s no Buster, but I am coming around on him, mainly because of the defense. At least he can do one of things he supposed to do in a reasonably good fashion.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
No doubt. I have been pleasantly surprised by Stewart however, even though the book on him was pretty accurate. Crawford’s defense also makes me root for him in that general " nice to have a defensive shortstop with range" way.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
how dare you
I’m sure there’s a perfectly valid reason that they haven’t, probably the same one that led to the decision to field this lineup!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Number of lineup slots with sub-.300 OBPs today
5!
I think we should probably try to make that number lower.
But maybe they have some information that I don’t.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
A high on-base percentage doesn't mean a player is a good HITTER! That's why it's called HITTING!
/Giants organization’d
“Keep The Line Moving” -Bruce Bochy June 28, 2010
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
Adopted Son:Dan Burkhart , Future Backup To Buster Posey.
So, does this mean Bochy doesn’t “like the way Burrell’s swinging the bat”?
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
Home runs and walks are for suckers.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I think this is pretty close to as good as Bochy is willing to align the current active roster.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not the one it should be
I’d have
Torres CF
Sandoval 3B
Huff 1B
Burrell LF
Ross RF
Hall 2B
Crawford SS
Stewart C
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Jun 29, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'd be down for that.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
LOL fished in
he put Crawford in just to snag a rec.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I think GP agrees Crawford > Tejada.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Thanks, I was not entirely serious.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 29, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
But doesn’t Tejada have better numbers than Crawford anyway? Is it possible GP actually does value defense just a little?
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Well duh.
Offense is more important than defense. But defense is not completely unimportant.
Sure, play Crawford over Tejada. But get someone better, right stat now.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
So theoretically, when the Giants DON'T get a SS right now
the better option is to play Crawford daily despite his offensive woes compared to Tejada?
Yeah, sure
Though a Tejada/Crawford platoon wouldn’t be the worst thing either, though that would involve Crawford getting most of the playing time since he’s the lefty.
But the Giants should get an SS right now.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Agree, but against a RHP, I can see Nate in there
He and Burrell both looked good yesterday
The thong is, it happened.
I guess
But Nate’s weird reverse platoon split still exists. Of course, it’s still SSS, but it gets bigger all the time.
I’d rather do what we did last year – play Burrell every day, sub him out in the 7th. Dunno why that doesn’t work this year anymore.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
You get 3-4 Pat ABs and still 1/3 of a game of Nate's defense!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
If you hit him 4th, you can easily get 3 AB’s out of him, while playing Nate 3+ innings on D, especially on the road.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
Pat's the only consistent power & patience threat in the lineup.
I discount Pablo because he’s still coming back from injury (and they say a hamate injury saps power anyway) and I discount Huff because he makes it easy and Ross because he’s streaky.
Didn’t I conclusively prove that Stewart is a good player?!
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Regarding Uggla
I sometimes think guys get freaked out by/guilty about big contracts and get into slumps pressing too hard trying to live up to them.
Like maybe Jeter feels like an asshole for being so imperious about his three year deal, and so he’s hitting .291/.354/.402 on the road, where he’s relaxed, but .234/.301/.262, in front of Yankee fans, where he feels like he needs to earn his $15m.
Carl Crawford, like Uggla, also might have been pushing too hard in front of a new set of fans, trying to establish himself, and show that he was worth his contract.
It seems like every time Zito has done something decent-to-good in the past five years, he talks about, “just relaxing, getting back to just enjoying the game and being in the moment” … and, implicitly, not feeling the pressure to (and getting all mind-fucked about) living up to his contract.
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
Z I T O
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 29, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it's the opposite.
They know they’re getting paid no matter how well they do, so they relax and don’t work as hard.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
When I see him on video in the last couple years
Zeets doesn’t look at all carefree, la-dee-da, “Hey bitches czech out all the fucks I don’t give.”
He seems more haunted, guilty, carrying a 126 million pound weight on his back.
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
I think Zeets was definitely
“Let me at those starlets, I’m getting paid, fuck baseball” for his first 2 years as a Giant. I think the backlash got to him a bit, but when he was left off the WS roster it was a total smack in the face. He seems more interested in baseball right now than he ever has as a Giant.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
He looked like he was going to cry while they were interviewing him in the clubhouse after the game yesterday.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
In the first Showtime episode
he looked to me like he had just seen a ghost – def a man with a guilty conscience.
SF Giants' record in the eleven-year twenty-first century/Pac Bell era: five MVPs, two CYA, one ROY, the two highest single-season OPS of all time (and two of the other top eight), the single-season and all-time HR records, two NL Pennants, and ... one World Championship
One good game back from the DL says "he seems more interested in baseball ..than
he ever has as a Giant" when he completely sucked to start the season, which also took place AFTER getting left off the post season roster.
Well, there's interested and then there's ability.
Isn’t he 33?
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
I'll agree with you if you base your point on his increased
ability being something he learned while on the DL. If you mean his being more interested is a reflection of his time on the DL, as opposed to being left off the playoff roster, I’d agree as well.
What I meant was
I do believe that he was interested in getting his groove back at the beginning of the year because he missed the WS party. But he sucked anyway because all those years of fucking around caught up to him. Maybe he did learn something during his DL stint, who knows? Too soon to tell.
Urban said last night that Zito basically gave up on the slider he was throwing while his velocity was so bad. Urbs thinks the velocity got better because he stopped throwing the slider, which fucks with his FB delivery. Might have a point. Three effective pitches are better than 4 mediocre ones.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Urbs might have a point (even though he is a Zito
apologist) IF Zito’s FB gets faster. He is throwing a lot fewer sliders this year though.
The question is – when did Zito STOP throwing the slider? Spring training or during his rehab?
Based on the data from texas leaguers for his 4 major league games this year (I don’t think they keep pfx data for minor league games?) Zeets was throwing the slider for the first 3 ML games as much as his changeup and for considerably fewer strikes. He’s recorded as two sliders yesterday.
Every six months or so there’s the “Zito has learned how to focus better” story followed by the “Zito has dedicated himself to getting better” story and then Zito goes out and does what Zito does. In other words, until he actually starts showing that he’s “learned how to focus” then I’m not buying the stories. Plus….you’re a friggin pitcher with a gargantuan contract, shouldn’t you have been learning how to focus before? I don’t hate the guy but there’s stuff out there that he’s said that makes you want to smack him.
by Dingoes Ate My Baby on Jun 29, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the good news is . . .
. . . that he hit at least 86 at least a couple of times. (I wasn’t watching closely, but did see those—assuming the gun in use was reasonably accurate).
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
All he has to do to make me happy is come home at the end of the day.
TheLetter2: East Coast Boogaloo
Also, all he needs to do to make me happy is never grow a fucking mustache or beard ever again.
Pease was never an option.
Oh. I was talking about Dan. But Zito’s a good guy, too.
I’ve read some of the Lincecum/Zito material out there. Some of it is pretty good. Others…are slightly odd.
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Fun Fact:
Cody Ross now leads the team with a 122 wRC+. He’s putting together a very nice season, and has definitely been the team’s best hitter the last two months. I’m glad he’s on this team.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
He's been good
I was pretty bearish (that’s the bad one right?) on him before the season. He’s been good.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I always get bullish and bearish mixed.
One of the reasons a lot of people were bullish (the opposite of your) was of his increased BB% as a Giant this year, he’s increased it even more this year.
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Peak Rowand was a bit better than Ross has ever been
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I had some sense that I misspoke...
… so, to clarify: I always thought Cody Ross would be what we thought Aaron Rowand would be, which is slightly above average.
END OF THREAD
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by jctGamer on Jun 29, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Picture how they attack.
Bulls gore upward, bears swipe downward.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I try not to stereotype behaviors.
…
Tsk.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
He's been slightly above average for his career.
This is the best season of his career so far. Whether or not he sustains it, I am super appreciative he’s been able to OPS around .850 during the two months of the injury wave.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
@SavvySabes In my day, wRC+ was RC Cola with cocaine around the rim, like salt on a margarita. Thanks for ruining RC Cola & coke, sabermathticians. BS
by Every6thDay on Jun 29, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yes. They sell it at Top Dog. I hate it.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Down here, RC Cola (which is pretty widely available) is often paired with Moon Pies. I have to admit, we’re onto something.
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That's a Hostess Station!
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 29, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Weighted Runs Created. It’s an offensive metric on Fangraphs, league and park adjusted, where 100 is the average ML hitter. For example, Ryan Howard is currently sporting a wRC+ of 125, Matt Kemp’s is 192.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
Here's my other question
What is the averages suppose to be for all of these stats and is there a post that talks about what the averages are suppose to be?
That’s the nice thing about the + stats, is that the average is 100.
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100 is not always the average actually. If you look it up, 92 is the approximate average for NL hitters.
Most of the time, I'm dumb. I'm just playing smart.
Isn't 100 the average for both NL AL combined?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
That’s what I would have thought, but the NL this year is 94 and the AL is 99. So….
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that 100 is just some arbitary value they’ve assigned for an average player.
Most of the time, I'm dumb. I'm just playing smart.
I don’t think it’s arbitrary. I just don’t know offhand why it is.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if at some point they change the scale.
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I vaguely recall reading that 100 is the average non-pitcher value.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Ah, that seems to make sense.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
You are correct
Update: I’ve removed pitchers from the league baselines, so the values will have changed slightly since this morning.
Basically, wOBA is based on the idea that everything that a batter does at the plate is, on the aggregate, worth a certain fraction of a run. Walks are worth some fraction, singles are worth a slightly higher fraction of a run, doubles more, triples more, and home runs are worth usually more than a run.
Then it divides all those fractions of a run by your plate appearances and then uses a bit of math to put it into a scale that us normal people can understand. That’s all.
Oh, and then wRC+ adjusts wOBA for park and league.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
So it's a bunch of hypothetical made up stuff.
Science!!!!
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
Not sure, given his posting history.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
But I'm normally so suave with the ladies!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Perkiness adjusts down with age.
Get well soon, Buster, Freddy, Frodo and Belt.
by Tortured on Jun 29, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
lol
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Rec'd
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Women, can't live with them
pass the beer nuts
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
..
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Oh, disappointed Bill Cosby, you never approve.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
Well
In college the fem-nazi line was: women = XX men = XY That Y is just an X with a leg broken off therefore the are genetic mutants.
And since my screen is jumping all over the freaking place I’ve no idea what I just typed.
wOBA is about the best stat I know. It’s accurate enough to satisfy my stat geek, but simple enough that I understand exactly how it works and why it’s great. I don’t know that any other stat balances the two as elegantly.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
And wRC, by extension.
Once more, coming to you by proxy.
by howtheyscored on Jun 29, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Felix is looking decidely mortal right now.
7.2 IP, 10 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 6K. 115 Pitches (so far). Why does Seattle never use the bullpen, no matter how mediocre he is pitching? Is their pen really that bad?
WTF
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Yeah but it loaded the bases!
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Ugh. Nevermind.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Are those all balls or strikes?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
all balls
The Human Element
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When was this from?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
last inning
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
MLB Gameday has none of those pitches in the strike zone. Only the fourth one is even close.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
fucking ESPN American League East Coast Biased Gameday Bullshit
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
LOLFederer
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year. .529 OPS this year. Ouch.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
FU!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 29, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny Venters is human now.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
This is bad news for my Pokemonz. But he probably still makes the All Star Team.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 29, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
and does cocaine
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
The Razor and The Walrus!
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
You should proofread before you post
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Corner pitch, corner pitch, breaking ball away...
so… the book on Wily Mo Pena hasn’t changed, then?
He should be pitched the same way as Rowand. Never throw him a strike.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He's not *as* SWING! SWING! OHMYGODIHAVETOFUCKINGSWING! as Rowand, though.
Gotta stay on the corners and get him to expand the zone just a little bit. Carrasco went fastball away on the black twice and then through a slider that probably caught too much of the zone but was aimed for the same area as the fastballs.
..
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
by jctGamer on Jun 29, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHA
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 29, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s funny. I just read a FanGraphs piece that pegged Matt Kemp as the worst fielder in MLB.
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/6/22/2237340/dodgers-matt-kemp-20-20
With Matt Kemp joining the 20-homer, 20-steal club last night in game number 75 of the season, he joined some select company. I did some research last night, and was able to find just eight other seasons in which a player had 20 home runs and 20 stolen bases in a team’s first 81 games. I’m not saying this is the definitive list — there might be others — but here are the players I found to hit the 20-20 mark through 81 games.
…
In case you were wondering, the closest Willie Mays came to joining the first half 20-20 club was in 1960, when he had 18 home runs and 19 steals.
if you have to invent a fake sample size you should probably stop.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 29, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I like overreacting to mostly harmless Dodgers bullshit, but then I got caught up in a thread segment about how much Bryan Stow deserved what happened and the facepalming turned to “No, I’m going to twist everything they write to maximize my outrage.”
there is literally nobody in the world that i do not hate right now
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 29, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Done
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Yeah Travis Buck!
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Gibson comes from the Felipe school of bullpen usage:
Z. Duke 5.0
J. Paterson 0.1
A. Heilman 1.1
A. Castillo 0.1
Y. Brazoban 0.2
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 3:19 PM PDT reply actions
Woah. Same Brazoban that the Dodgers had?
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
The very same
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
YHENCY YANKER
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 29, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
GAGNE GAGGER!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
JANSEN JERKER
"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug
PUTZ PULLER
you guys are seriously dropping the ball here.
I'm a Giants Fan, but I'll always be rooting for Matt Downs
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BALFOUR BANGER
hey man I can’t reply to myself
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GOSSAGE GOBBLER
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Jun 29, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Expanding on fun fact #1
Giants record when scoring 3 or more = 39-9 (0.813 winning %)
Giants record when scoring 2 or fewer = 7-25 (0.219)
Three runs really is like a magic threshold for this team.
It's orange inside
I'd be interested what the number is for the Phillies and Braves
(the two other really good pitching teams in the NL)
well when the team ERA hovers around 3, that makes sense
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Too lazy to crunch the numbers
But I would be willing to wager the Giants jump in win% from 2 to 3 runs is larger than most.
It's orange inside
That's probably true
Nobody else with a team ERA so low has an offense so bad that they routinely score under 3 runs.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Craig Kimbrel vs. SEA
3 IP, 7 K, 0 BB, 11 H
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Shades of OV
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What a ridiculously great play
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by Useful_Idiot on Jun 29, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Andres Torres LD%..........
2010 Giants 21.8 %
2011 Giants 13.4 %
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
No sleep! I heard it on TV.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 30, 2011 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks be to the Indians for rolling over against us and then whooping the D-Bags
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Ask grinning Chief Wahoo why he grins
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BATTLE
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Hank said they'd lean towards Vogy
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day CURRENT starting SS!!
then who will pitch the Michaels-Costas game?
I calculated Zito, but who knows.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
POOPIN!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
Oh, Heidi Watney! You are very pretty.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
if she was so pretty
Shia LeBeouf would have admitted to having relations with her.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Nah
Shia met Dustin Pedroia’s brother back in the “Even Steven’s” days though
Monday Monkey lives for the weekend, sir.
LEADOFF HITTER!
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Oy
I thought for a couple of weeks there that he’d come out of his prolonged slump, but I’m starting to think 2009 Aubrey is really what we’re going to get the whole season. Can we somehow fool him into thinking it’s 2012 so he’ll revert to even-year form?
Just so everyone knows
the Giants game will be on WGN today at 5, in case you don’t get CSNBA
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Slightly OT: I got my medical marijuana card today and in celebration I bought a black and orange bong
Its name is Aubrey Puff
by sbrody on Jun 29, 2011 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
That's awesome
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Jun 29, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHA
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 29, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Last note on this Fun Factness . . .
- is true only if you don’t grant Arky Vaughn his 20th HR, even though he hit in massive Forbes Field. He beat the other numbers all to hell in 1935.
That is all.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jun 29, 2011 4:49 PM PDT reply actions
This should be the new format for all your posts
No relation to Matt Cain...
by Caine Black Knife on Jun 30, 2011 9:51 AM PDT reply actions
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