Post-game thread: Maybe the other teams are lucky that they get within one run
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 9:55 PM PDT
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In the bottom of the eighth inning, Chris Young doubled. The Giants were up by a single run -- unfamiliar territory, for sure -- and Kelly Johnson was chugging around the bases, trying to tie the game. Then ...
... Aaron Rowand made an amazing play with his bare hand to pick a ball that caromed off the wall towards his face. It was a catching-flies-with-chopsticks kind of play -- the kind you watch on replay without figuring out how it happened. Then Rowand throw a perfect strike to ...
... Miguel Tejada, who was in great position to take the relay. It was a beautiful throw from Rowand, and Tejada wheeled around and fired the greatest relay in the history of relays to ...
... Eli Whiteside, who didn’t have to do a whole lot except catch it, which is harder than it looks, especially when you got the job when the last guy went on worker’s comp because of a situation just like that.
Three players combined on that play. Not one of them is especially good when compared to the other 747 players who are currently on an active major-league roster. But for one play, they were the right players at the right time, combining for one of the best plays of the season. Oh, and Whiteside extended the lead with one o’ them patented Whiteside triples.
It’s been a few weeks, but I can rehash this sentiment: I don’t want Rowand, Tejada, and Whiteside to fail. I want Rowand to repeat his last season with the Phillies, I want Tejada to win another MVP, and I want Whiteside to surprise with competent offensive and defensive play. They all seem like swell guys, and there’s no way to use "swell" without seeming sarcastic, but, dang it, that’s the word that fits. They all seem like teammates you could joke with in a clubhouse after a good win.
So with that in mind, there’s nothing I’d like more to be wrong about the players I don't think will do well in June, July, August, and September. The comp is Aubrey Huff. I expected him to fail. I hoped he’d be passable. He was amazing, and he pulled underwear out of his pants in front of a million people. He’s cool. You know, cool. I’d love for Rowajaside to be a Cerberus that spits out wins from here on out. Here’s hoping ...
And Madison Bumgarner needs only five more wins in a row before I lose the urge to punch win-loss records right in its smug face, the bastard.
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LOL Diamondbacks sweep :)
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by Prussian Creole on Jun 15, 2011 9:56 PM PDT reply actions
nice jinx PC
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Brian Wilson
.36 ERA since 4.26
1.13 ERA since the first 2 games of the season.
discuss.
heh
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 9:56 PM PDT reply actions
He’s good.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
and after tonight
more saves than anyone in MLB
by wearingmyrallythong on Jun 15, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
statz
BB/PA K/PA GB% 2009 8.9% 27.4% 48% 2010 8.4% 29.9% 50% 2011 13.4% 23.9% 59%
I might accept the GB/K tradeoff, but for the walks.
The walks suck.
Yeah. his bb/k aren’t where they should be
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he walks people because he doesn’t want to give in to hitters, or to choose matchups that make him more comfortable. Seems like sometimes he has a sixth sense about a guy who will get a big hit, and pitches around him.
Either that, or he’s just trying to kill me.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
I don’t think he gives up doubles on purpose, but especially with a 3 run lead I think he assumes he has 6 bases to work with. It’s frustrating, except for the part when the umpire rings up the third out.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
It appears to me
that he usually is pretty intelligent about how he handles the inning.
What I did not understand last night was why he did not just pitch one down the middle to Montero with a 3 run lead and a runner on. The worst Montero can due is hit a HR and you are still 1 run up with 2 out.
By walking Montero, the D-Backs only had to hit a single HR to tie the game rather than hit 2 HRs to tie it. Not smart.
Yeah, I wonder that too, but I wonder it about a lot of guys on the staff (Guapo). I am also not an ML pitcher.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I also think he doesn’t think in terms of “Oh no, the tying run is on base” or “The winning run is on deck”. He just seems to think in terms of “Who has no chance against me? You’re welcome.”
My biggest concern now is that he’s going to have to think about the risk of passed balls with our current catching situation.
The thong is, it happened.
I think that too
and I bet Timmy has the same problem.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I know I’m gonna be laughed out of the internet for this, but shouldn’t Wilson be considered one of the favorites for the Cy Young right now? Josh Johnson is on the 60-day DL and Halladay has been good, not great.
Wilson has five wins and 20 saves and the Giants are like 30-2 when he appears in a ballgame. By hook or by crook he’s been pretty amazing since his first couple of appearances in April, which were, for him, pretty much spring training games coming off his oblique injury.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Relievers win the Cy if they have ERA’s less than 1 or a perfect save record.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
what if he ends up w/ 15 wins and 40 saves and a sub 2 era?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to believe the writers are not that stupid.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
alright, agree to disagree. But for the record, I don’t think Wilson has gotten nearly enough credit for all the tie ballgames he’s entered in the 9th inning without allowing any damage.
People act like every appearance he makes he comes on with a three run lead and allows to runs and leaves the bases loaded before getting the third out when really he’s been so much better than that.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Venters would get more consideration than Wilson right now.
Thing A
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Pitcher A: 9.52 K/9, 2.43 BB/9, 1.88 FIP, 2.13 xFIP
Pitcher B: 14.64 K/9, 1.83 BB/9, .98 FIP, 1.30 xFIP
Too bad pitcher B only gets to face one batter every other game.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Pitcher B is one of the most selectively used players in the game!
You just can’t look at rate stats for a guy like that!
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It's somewhat true
But not his fault.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Why would I bother
He obviously just hates the Giants.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
there’s a joke to be made
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Link plz
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Dave's right in principle. But he was a little lazy and didn't check Romo's career LH-batter splits.
Anyways, look in the comments section of this.
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but he shouldn't be a specialist
dammit
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Pretty much this.
Dave is handicapping Romo not for his performance, but for Bochy’s use of him.
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I didn’t read the comments of that post, but I did find it annoying that he totally ignored Vogelsong.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Why?
He hasn’t thrown as many innings as anyone he picked.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I would argue
That you’re not giving nearly enough credit to the guys who pitch the other 8 innings.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I like and respect the whole staff, believe me. But Wilson enters more tie games or 1-run games than just about any closer, I’d have to think.
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
his appearances are more stressful than other closers’ appearances?
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Are the innings he pitches more stressful than the guys who throw the 5th? 6th? 7th?
Why?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Because . . .
. . . the shade of Jerome Holtzmann makes it so by gesturing hypnotically.
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I dislike that argument.
I know a great many articles have been written by people a heckuva lot smarter than us (well, at least me) about using your best reliever in the most stressful situation, period, regardless of whether it comes in the 6th, 7th, 8th or 9th, and I know the Red Sox experimented with it early in 2003, with poor results, but in practical application I just don’t think it’s very realistic. Every bullpen guy out there is adamant that pitchers want to be clear on their roles and I don’t think the average ballplayer is open-minded enough to accept the SABR argument that the 7th is more important than the 9th. Once agents and the MLBPA gets involved, things get even more tricky. It’s just accepted that a team’s best reliever pitches the 9th inning and I don’t know when, or if, that will ever change.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Obviously, a different manner of thinking existed before this became the norm…
and the importance is not the inning but the situation.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that. But I don’t think ballplayers think that way. I think the norm is when teams discover a young reliever that turns out to be their own Romo or whoever, he eventually gets promoted to closer once the closer moves on with free agency or gets DFA’d or whatever.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Double bingo.
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Brian’s Leverage Index numbers are high but not leading the league and don’t really stand out from the numbers of other closers. It just seems that way because you mostly watch Giants games.
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Well, the Giants play more 1 run games than other teams
Leverage scores give Wilson all the credit he needs for that. There’s no real need to assign more. And there’s no way it would give him enough to make up for the fact that he’s allowing almost 1.5 runners per inning.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He’s having a nice year, but he’s allowing way too many baserunners to be a serious consideration for the Cy Young.
And for how good he’s been, there are closers that have been better.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I wonder how many of those closers have the luxury of two and three run leads in the 9th as a matter of routine. Wilson rarely gets that. Today was fairly unusual for him.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
So Wilson is allowing too many baserunners because the team brings him into closer games than other guys? That does not sound like a point in his favor.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
the WHIP I guess is the main sticking point against him. He does seem to have an unreal ability to get out of his own jams though.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
That seems to disqualify him from the Best Pitcher Award
but give him an insurmountable lead for the ‘Save You from Yourself’ Award.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
If FIP can underestimate Matt Cain, can WHIP underestimate Brian Wilson?
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WHIP probably does underestimate Brian Wilson.
WHIP will probably tend to underestimate pitchers with high strikeout rates, which Wilson has.
I’m guessing WHIPx is chasm.
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This is a question for the Machine, no?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
unf
/points and laughs
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
whoa
where’d that ‘unf’ come from?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Spontaneous UNF!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Hamel is the leader in Cy Young right now.
Halladay has been insane
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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Honestly
My Cy Young Ballot right now would be:
Halladay
Hamels
Lee
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I'd go Halladay for sure
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Top Ten WAR for pitchers according to BR
1. Halladay (PHI) 4.2
2. Hamels (PHI) 3.6
3. Lohse (STL) 2.7
Jurrjens (ATL) 2.7
Kershaw (LAD) 2.7
6. Venters (ATL) 2.6
7. Chacin (COL) 2.5
Kennedy (ARI) 2.5
9. Marcum (MIL) 2.4
Vogelsong (SFG) 2.4
Lee (PHI) 2.4
Johnson (FLA) 2.4
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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Madison Bumgarner is in the top 10 according to Fangraphs!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Lee's pitching incredibly and getting BABIP'd to death.
He’s pushed his K/9 above 10.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Venters
Wow. 2.6 WAR in like 40 innings.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
That's for the NL
Phil Hughes has got it for the AL
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Roy Halladay has been amazing this year
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Good, not great.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
he was quoting the original poster
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
agreed
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I thought it was cheesy. Glad you liked it.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Great recap of a perfect play
So many amazingly perfect aspects of that one. I can’t decide if my favorite is Rowand’s barehanded grab or Tejada’s throw.
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by achiappanza on Jun 15, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I still can't believe the ball just jumped into his hand.
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by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
it didnt…he had to reach up to grab it
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ball jumped up
But it did jump up from the wall… and he managed to catch it barehanded in the windup position… how fortuitous!
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- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
looks to me like he caught it and then wound up. was a good play on his part.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I really like Madison Bumgarner
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
this was a huge game for him
Never had the Big Madbum Inning. He got hosed by bad D, bad calls, and (legal) fan interference, and then he just went “Naw, never mind, just gonna strike y’all out.”
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 15, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
awesome
He’s still only 21.
If he were born in a different state, in a different era, he would have a six-shooter on his hip, and he would go from town to town serving up justice.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
That graph is super funny to me
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by Prussian Creole on Jun 15, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked Bill Hall. But just for the last couple of at bats
Suck it Mat Latos rolls of the tongue so nicely
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Early ones ouch
That early one where he just went fishing three times was wretched.
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by achiappanza on Jun 15, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Not just all in one game
That would just be LOL Bochy. All relatively good in one game!
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I also like this version of Whiteside
that hits triples.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I am also a Bill Hall supporter.
Come at me.
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
DO NOT LIKE
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
if it's him or Burriss, sign me up
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 15, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll put my signature to that.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The difference between a 7-11 burrito and a 7-11 burrito you find in the bathroom of a 7-11. Obvious. Still disconcerting.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll never look at a 7-11 burrito the same way.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You betcha.
His career has been unusually variable, but the net line is pretty good—and so, apparently, is his defense. If he can perform merely to career average, I’m more than happy.
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I'm in
Or at least, definitely in favor of the signing.
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we will turn him into something wonderful. like we did with the others.
by wearingmyrallythong on Jun 15, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I can support anyone that gets two hits in a game for the Giants.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like
the Giants do better finding players on the scrap heap than they do in January.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
He's found El Dorado
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Bill Hall said in 30-min session w/Bam Bam, he found something in his swing he’d been missing for three years.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
35 HOMERS, ENGAGE!
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by deuce deuce on Jun 15, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
Make it sew.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
we laugh, and I rec
but wth, Burrell was in bad shape when he got here last year.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
BAM BAM IS MAGIC
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by Prussian Creole on Jun 15, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
/hits .270/.330/.520 the rest of the year with 15 HR
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
boioioioioioioing
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
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Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
what is unf unf unf?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s a synonym for fapping, as in FAP FAP FAP
"For science. You monster."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jun 15, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
ooooh. i thought it might be untz untz untz (bass drum hi-hat) … say it fast. dance beat.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
See, I always thought it was more of an eating thing, like...
…unf unf unf unf cookies unf unf unf
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
nom nom nom
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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Correct
Eating is nom
Sex noises are unf
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
/Cookie Monster freebasing cookie dough.gif
"For science. You monster."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jun 15, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Real talk:
Ever since I saw this, I have wanted to try to make a cookie in a spoon with a lighter.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
LOL me too! I wanna see how it would work.
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by Prussian Creole on Jun 15, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like it would just be warm cookie dough and my finger would hurt from holding down the lighter
But there’s nothing wrong with hot cookie dough.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
it would just melt
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe a butane lighter would be needed
"For science. You monster."
by KINGofCRA5H on Jun 15, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not a synonym. It’s an equivalent.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
unf
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I really wish he wouldn’t make this face. It makes him so, so much less attractive. I get that that’s the point, but ewww.
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I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Jun 15, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Lot of unfing
The San Francisco Giants: 2010 World Series Champions
I'M A GIRL
by Prussian Creole on Jun 15, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
jponry has turned into roxgirl
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Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
BILL HALL .920 OPS!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
just trying to make him out to be the burrell of 2011
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I loved the poll they showed on CSN after the game. The question was, “Who will be the Pat Burrell of 2011?” THe leading response (with 47%) was Pat Burrell.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
If only he could get playing time.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
hahaha
These are the same people (I was there) that gave Buster a standing ovation for catching a grounder in foul territory while he was catching someone in the bullpen and had yet to play in a game.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL BLURBS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE
"Tight and tense until the end and then the happy ending." - Jon Miller
by Rook Takes Pawn on Jun 15, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Bam Bam “when the ball is coming, make sure you swing”
Hall “I’m supposed to swing at the BALL?”
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
A bench?
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I have always wondered how often this happens…
Bam Bam or Rags goes to Bochy or Sabean and says, “Get this guy! I know what’s wrong and I can fix it.”
RamRam’s numbers weren’t impressive when the Giants picked him up last season. My dad said “I bet Righetti saw something he can work with”
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
"last season" ≠ career
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Well, it kinda sounded like it:
“RamRam’s numbers weren’t impressive when the Giants picked him up last season.” Since his career numbers are, and were, impressive, that can only have referred to his Boston numbers.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I was talking about his numbers last season. I said nothing of equating that with his career. That being said, do some players not decline in baseball?
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
They all do.
But not at age 28 or so, and not suddenly.
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Doesn’t disprove Nivek5150’s original comment.
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
by yoyomonster on Jun 16, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Which do you consider "original"?
I take it to be RamRam’s numbers weren’t impressive when the Giants picked him up last season. If we are splitting parsing hairs, then the question is whether that means his career numbers to date at that time or means for that season in which he was picked up.
The difference is huge. For that season, in Boston, he was not doing well. But that was a limited case: and his career stats to that point were (as they still are) very good.
But you can read the posts as well as I.
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I’d shoot a little farther back, pal. Find something from your swing five years ago.
by Dan from NM on Jun 15, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
But, uh, the only thing is is
He was actually pretty terrible three years ago, so I’m not sure what this means.
If it was something in his swing he’d been missing from, like, last season…
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The bat.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
A Jose Bautista transformation would be welcomed
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he found something in his swing he’d been missing for three years.
Baseballs?
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by iammclovin on Jun 15, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Next up: Sliding practice
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 15, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever happens with Hall, just wanted to say again that I really like Meulens and I hope he gets to stick around for awhile.
by Seasick fish on Jun 15, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
too bad for you
He’s leaving the planet!
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I PACKED MY BAGS LAST NIGHT PRE-FLIGHT
ZERO HOUR 9 AM
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously.
Carney Lansford rockfuckery what?
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
@BreakingNews
Breaking News
Riots, fires continue in downtown Vancouver after Stanley Cup loss. Live video from @CTVBC http://bit.ly/lDhVhp
"For science. You monster."
Nice job Canada.
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by deuce deuce on Jun 15, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Very surprising.
Especially Vancouver.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Apparently
don’t know how to win or lose
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Cut it oot!
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Dont fuck with Canadians and their Hockey.
by Norcalnappy on Jun 15, 2011 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree
Giants fans were incredibly good after the team won the world series.
The Canuck fans are being stupid…rioting after winning is one thing…rioting after losing is just stupid
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I guess you missed the footage of the overturned bus
and the fire in the middle of the street.
Get well soon, Buster.
Thats still not quite “the same shit” as whats happening in Vancouver
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Yes
There’s LA Riots and then there’s some stupid drunk people being stupid
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Of course! Is this chasm?
There’s big drunken party, there’s big drunken party with throwing things, then burning things, then fights, then assaults, then police brutality, then there’s water cannons, then there’s Molotov cocktails, and then there’s complete anarchy. Also, crowd size matters.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm just annoyed
that people want to say that we’re so much better in the Bay Area. It’s just not true.
Get well soon, Buster.
What?
The “riot” in SF after the WS was such incredibly mild compared to just about everything I’ve seen.
Freaking Lakers fan rioted after winning their 2nd championship in two years…hello you were just here last year!
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Well in the general sense of course, but calbear wasn’t saying that. He was saying the truth: SF handled winning the World Series a lot better than expected, a lot better than a few recent winners, and a heck of a lot beter than Vancouver is handling this loss.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He said
“incredibly good.” I don’t think an overturned bus and starting fires can be construed as such.
Never mind, SF is full of unicorns and all that. I’m going to bed.
Get well soon, Buster.
calbearjd doesn’t even live in San Francisco. I think it’s pretty clear that he meant, in comparison to other cities, the stuff that went on in SF wasn’t that bad.
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I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He meant that maybe
it’s not what he said. Just like whwen I said “there are degrees of rioting?” it wasn’t literal.
Ugh, the internets!
Get well soon, Buster.
uh, okay.
Don’t know where this is coming from. And I’m not SF’s biggest fan. Well, I am, I just don’t like the people. But I can say that about every place.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I never liked you either!
/cries and runs into room, slamming door
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Relative to how every city reacts it was incredibly good. You’re the one who said that happens everywhere. If a few Vancouver fans had flipped over a bus and started a smallish fire I think you can dimiss that as a couple jackasses who will inevitably exist in every large crowd of emotional people. What’s happening in Vancouver is more than a handful of idiots.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
One of my best friends is living in Vancouver
and it sounds like an absolute nightmare. And it’s still going on.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
They certainly are frustrated.
Best team in league by far
loses to Boston.
yikes.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Arlington = classy
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree on this
They were very gracious last year
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You cannot compare reactions for winning and for losing.
It is comparing apples and sewing machines.
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Have you read the whole thread?
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
My old Singer was juicy and sweet.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
“We won! Lets flip a bus!”
“We lost…… Lets burn the city down!!”
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Was a bus really flipped? I don’t remember seeing footage.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont know
I know there was a relatively small fire, but I missed the bus thing too.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I kinda recall people standing on a 38 Geary, but it was upright …
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
nobody said we are better
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Well yeah. There’s the Watts Riots and the Rodney King riots, with massive damage, property loss and bodily injury or loss of life…. and then there’s burn a car or two and forget about it riots.
McC: Don't get it? Try the McWiki wiki.
Lakers riots
Are for those reliving the Rodney King glory days, honing their skill for the next big one in L.A.
Proud father of Barry Bonds.
chasm?
because there’s an overturned bus and then there’s stuff like this
I wouldnt say they are the same shit
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Is that New Detroit?
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
to add...
…I don’t remember a riot in 1989 or 2002.
Quiet Riot
According to Eric Holder, Giants Baseball is NOT torture. OK, it is, but followed by a big bowl of ice cream.
Tim Lincecum: He's a biracial angel.
by yoyomonster on Jun 16, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Some people would reverse those two. If you win, you’re in a state of drunken glee and you love everything. If you’re painstakingly close to watching your team win, only to be embarrassed in Game 7 at home, you might want to break things. Still stupid, though.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
after losing?
I don’t remember hearing about that very much. And it didn’t happen to this degree in SF after the win.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
my understanding is that after the 49ers first Super Bowl win in 1982, there was quite a bit of damage done in the City. A lot of people were injured.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 15, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
People in Vancouver rioted the last time they lost the Stanley Cup.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
yes they did
and that Game 7 was in New York.
Which, btw, had no such activity at all that night. Probably because Messier and Esa Tikkanen were running around Manhattan with the cup.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Weird...
If, prior to tonight’s game, someone asked me to name the two guys in the starting lineup who would get triples, I don’t think I’d have guessed “Burrell and Whiteside”.
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
yeah but that doesn't top
Bengie Molina hitting for the freakin’ CYCLE on July 16 (two weeks after Giants traded him to Rangers): http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100716&content_id=12308004&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
…actually, Giants getting > 5 runs two days in a row is flat-out weird in itself…
…oh, and MadBum won…all these are strange portents.
I don't understand
Brandon Crawford is white
Bill Hall is black
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If it's called futbol
why do they play it with a soccer ball??
I heard that on tv somewhere last week. Norm McDonald?
Has anybody read this?
OPSBIs. You cannot make this shit up.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Jim Bowden
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I like
(Of course, with leadoff hitters, OBP+R+SB would be a better barometer, so you have to know the type of hitter your looking at).
Oh, of course, that makes sense.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
your your your your your
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
how can you add ...
you know what, never mind.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
His math is off. 1.190+42 = 43.190
by kingofthacove on Jun 15, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is why he is now a crap writer instead of being a crap GM.
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by owlcroft on Jun 15, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The funniest thing is that RBIs have such little weight on that scale that it’s pointless. The list is in order of OPS; the RBIs mean nothing.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
by El Person on Jun 15, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i love how adding RBI to OPS changes the ordering only negligibly
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Also holy shit
It looks like he is also in the comment section responding to EVERY SINGLE COMMENT with the username jbowdeniv310
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Iceman11377
OPS I get, but RBI ? How can you fairly compare a #3 hitter for the Pirates V. a #3 hitter for Boston when the guy from Boston has more AB’s with men on base ?
jbowdeniv310
Good point.. As you can see OPS is the impactful stat here. RBI’s only separates the players if a player is not driving them in. You are correct that you can’t compare the #hitter of Bucs w/ that of Boston…just like it can be a disadvantage to Big Papi if A-Gone clears the bases before he comes up.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Oh I know, I just don’t understand what Bowden is saying.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 15, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
lmao
How often do the RBIs occur in one-run games against Mariano Rivera in the ninth inning as opposed to a 12-0 blowout in the fourth inning against a mopup reliever.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Why does ESPN constantly hire guys from these east coast teams that get fired? Valentine, Bowden, Phillips….it just goes on and on.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 15, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Because competent people won’t be working there?
That is cray-z.
by DrDC on Jun 15, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Holed it in one.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
He’s actually replying to the comments, which I guess is kind of cool.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I attribute all this stuff to Panda
He clearly brought that spark the team dearly needed. Lookout MLB, time for your an asskicking of Giant proportions.
Aubrey hitting the ball better isn’t hurting either.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff:
Not even counting tonight—
OPS last 14 days, .947; OPS last 7 days, 1.029.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
probably has a good deal to do with the pressure being taken off him somewhat, with other run-producers in there too.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t watch the game because I couldn’t deal with Andres Torres being platooned, but I’m damned happy they won the thing.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
he got in later
and almost made the highlight reel with a catch. Just a little short.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. Andres Torres: Defensive Replacement is little consolation for me there.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
oh
I didn’t think it would console you, but I suspected you wouldn’t see the play because he didn’t quite get to the ball after running 500 yards.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
If it makes you feel any better...
he was in first and foremost as a pinch hitter when Bum left.
It's orange inside
mmmm
that’s some soothing salve right there. Feel the soothing howie!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I wore hot pants… but that’s my normal attire.
I'm a man
by Wes_Mantooth on Jun 15, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel you.
I have to go swimming every 30 seconds in Fresno to make sure I dont get a fever.
LOLU
nice warm cup of tea, sun on the bay….. aaaaaah.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Bip was drunk tonight
I found him very entertaining
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:09 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Then perhaps you were.
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I considered that
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that guy’s friend texted him and said “Quit throwing up the B Weez cross dickweed!”
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you really want to know the terrible truth?
OR do you want to see me hit a few dingers?!
by djfivenine on Jun 15, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
DINGERS!
its kind of sad how this scene turned out to be a slight satire for the blind eye turned towards baseball and its PEDs
yes
but not as annoying as the two ArizonaHoles who were yelling “Heeeey Wilson… you suck”. It was just like Little League. Also, be careful as you move towards the exits with your shoulders slumping.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes…
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, OPS and RBI living together… mass hysteria!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
@BreakingNews
Breaking News
More on Vancouver riots: @CTVBC reporting new fires, Royal Canadian Mounted Police to arrive http://bit.ly/lDhVhp
"For science. You monster."
they're like a poor man's PR
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I can't believe how they've characterized Giants' fans for the Torture thing.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like it’s been explained to them about a million times, but they still think it’s some sort of self-pitying thing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
We've martyred ourselves somehow.
There’s irrational, there’s stupid, and then there’s that.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
They have such a pathetic fanbase, but I don’t quite get the vitriol spewing from the AZ fans because there’s never been much of a rivalry with them except for 2000-2002
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 15, 2011 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it's because they don't like being called pathetic?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on Jun 15, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just remember last year
at this time and how we felt about the Padres. We thought we had the better team but then they kept winning in stupid, stupid ways and it was just so frustrating and GAHHHHHHH.
by paboperfecto on Jun 16, 2011 4:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I have a different question
why isn’t that still a PCL town? Take your stupid color schemes and 106 degree temperatures with the roof open (how’s that strategy working, btw) and GTFO.
I always blamed U of A but maybe it’s the whole state.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Just because: Nutter Butter is yummy
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 15, 2011 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I firmly believe that Nutter Butters are overrated
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by KINGofCRA5H on Jun 15, 2011 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS SERIES SO FAR ......
WIN IT FOR SANCHEZ, BELT, PANDA, AND POSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by KINGofCRA5H on Jun 15, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
He runs just like John Montefusco used to.
Kinda the front half of a pantomime horse.
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by owlcroft on Jun 15, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Oh god... that's the perfect description.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
And comparison!
rec’d!
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by Giant Voodoo on Jun 16, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think
that was a ITPH for most guys on the team.
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Lucky you.
He’s another Silent.
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Oh, btw.
Aaronstampler was arguing in the game thread that Casilla is no less likely than any other pitcher to regress from his ERA.
I told him to take up the debate in the postgame thread, and while I could do a slap job at it, I think you would explain the point to him rather emphatically.
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I never said he’s no more likely to fail than any other pitcher on the staff. What I said was don’t bury the guy prematurely before he actually screws up. A guy doesn’t suck until he sucks, and Casilla hasn’t really sucked as a Giant. All you’re doing is waiting for him to suck, which I think is cynical and pessimistic.
There are so many guys on the team actively sucking — right now — and all season long, that it seems to me kind of silly to be picking on somebody who hasn’t sucked yet.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nah.
You said, “by that reasoning, any pitcher in baseball is going to start doing worse”.
This is simply not true. For basic reasons, Casilla is much more likely to start posting a worse ERA, mainly because he’s walked more people than he’s struck out.
There are very few pitchers whose defense-independent performance is that terrible.
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his ERA is 1.04. No matter how well he pitches, it’s probably gonna get worse. I just don’t think he’s going to be a gas can. He’ll probably be in the 2.50-3.00 neighborhood, which is perfectly reasonable for a 5th or 6th reliever.
My whole point was don’t bury someone who isn’t dead yet. You’ve got the next three months to point and laugh Nelson style when he screws up. Why do it prematurely? What’s the rush? It’s like you want him to fail.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh.
Basic truth: the past best predicts the future.
Casilla is not some rookie adjusting to life in the majors. He is a well-established pitcher with a well established history, and it is a consistent and not pretty one. There is no reason to believe that he is likely to not perform now just he always has, and every reason to believe that he will. “Every reason” includes his obvious continuing lack of ability to control his pitches.
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I’m really not stressing about him, tbh. We’re arguing about the 6th or 7th reliever on the staff. I think we are ridiculously spoiled by how dominant this bullpen is to the point that anytime a reliever enters an inning and doesn’t strike out the side (pretty much what Romo does) people whine and bitch.
I prefer Casilla to Runzler and I probably prefer him to Mota in a high-leverage situation. Beyond that, I don’t know what else to say.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s kind of ironic really. Our pitchers are so good that we want every starter to be Lincecum in Sept-Oct of 2010 and every reliever to be like Eckersley in 1989.
Meanwhile for the hitters, if they can just get to like a 750 OPS we’re thrilled.
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by Aaronstampler on Jun 15, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think Kroon would be an improvement?
I’m pulling for the guy…
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Probably. Unless Casilla goes back to averaging 97. Owlcroft hates him, but 4mph makes a difference.
It helps.
But major-league batters can still lay off balls out of the strike zone even when they’re over 100 mph.
Runzler is a better pitcher than Casilla. How good he ultimately will be remains to be seen, but he will almost surely be at least better than average, which cannot be said for GasCan.
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I think it is fair to judge him based on SF as opposed to Oak. Different magic pitching coach.
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by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe the phrase is . . .
. . . “The triumph of hope over experience.”
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No
Kroon is doing okay in AAA but nothing spectacular
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6th in the PCL in K rate (20+ IP)
11% BB rate isn’t stellar, but we know that’s his weakness. He’d be as good as Casilla is projected to be.
I’ll stick with Casilla, who was good in the majors as recently as last year and is 30 years old, rather than Kroon, who was subpar in Japan last year and AAA this year and is 38.
by kingofthacove on Jun 16, 2011 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Would you stick with Casilla and Whiteside over Kroon and Torrealba?
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Yorvit?
Not sure what you are getting t.
by kingofthacove on Jun 16, 2011 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
no I would not
BRASSSS
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
sss
Casilla has been good precisely once — last year, when his fastball averaged 97mph. He has not been good in other years, and his fastball is down to 93mph. There are two rational ways to project this: either shrug and look at a large sample, say 2008-11, or exclude the outlier and do 2007-9 and 2011. Either way, he comes out looking like a competent middle reliever with an expected RA either just under 4, or somewhat over.
Kroon has been good in Japan, which is much tougher than the PCL and is not kind to pitchers. Projecting his 2008-11 from Japan and the PCL, he comes out looking like..
..a competent middle reliever with an expected RA just under 4.
I’ll trade the fungible commodity, bring up the free talent in triple A, and grin and bear it when he walks people.
and yet he’s worse in the PCL then he was in Japan
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neither of them can play catcher
send one of them to Texas.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
he's top-20 in FIP among all pitcher over 20 IP
Context matters. It’s the PCL.
If you’re not dominating AAA, you’re probably not going to be very good in the majors.
by kingofthacove on Jun 16, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure, but I do know what having terrible control in crappy leagues for the last two years while being really old translates to.
by kingofthacove on Jun 16, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Trading him for value is one thing, but if you’re simply choosing between two, I’ll take Casilla without thinking twice. Also, relievers are more volatile than any other position; it’s not that rare that a reliever starts producing at a relatively old age
by kingofthacove on Jun 16, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Scott Eyre, Matt Herges, Jim Brower
…and those guys were all in one bullpen.
by kingofthacove on Jun 16, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably doesn't matter
If Casilla comes off the roster, it’ll probably be be for Zito
The thong is, it happened.
Wouldn’t the same logic apply to Ramirez? His history (mostly AL) is pretty mediocre and nowhere near how he’s pitched this season.
No, because it isn't.
Ramirez did not fare well in Fenway, to be sure. But even with those two seasons, both his career Quality of Pitching and actual career ERA are more than satisfactory (3.28 and 3.15, respectively); and think of them were Boston struck off.
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And makes plays at the plate.
And catches no-hitters
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by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
And hits grandslams
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And hits grandslams
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by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
OTish
Anyone think that Jeters injury is potentially fake so that they can set him up with a good home stand for his 3,000th?
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No way.
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Nah.
You’re bound to get injured if you’ve been playing since ’96.
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by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I am both incisively and decisively echoing whatever the preceding eight replies have said.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
No, but the amount of press dedicated purely to “Where would Jeter most like to get his 3000th?” is lame.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
no
but that nicely assumes he would have gotten however many hits on the road to set him up for that.
It’s not that hard to sit out a game.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dustin Ackley Era begins
COKE COKE COKE COKE COKE COKE COKE COKE COKE METH METH METH METH METH METH METH
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note to those who missed it the other day
this is an untrue meme started by some nefarious nerbs here.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know what you are talking about. Ackley was linked to reports of coke abuse shortly before the draft. It’s not a meme, it’s a tactic!
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by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
quiet you!
I actually recall googling this at one point last year and getting no results. But the phone rang or something and I forgot about it, so I just assumed it was true.
Just glad I never said anything on Lookout Landing.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants don't know how to sweep
Lineup will probably have Burris and no 3B
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Rowand CF
Burris 2B
Ross LF
Huff 1B
Schierholtz RF
Tejada 3B
Crawford SS
Whiteside C
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Ian Kennedy’s a righty, though, so Torres will probably play. And Sandoval will obviously play.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
you forgot about
Bochy’s white flag lineup when going for the sweep
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He’ll still play white flag matchups, though.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS WASNT HIS WHITE FLAG LINEUP???
Pease was never an option.
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TODAY WAS THE WHITE FLAG, AND WE PASSED THE TEST!
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Bochy will try harder tomorrow!
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
burning phosphorus! willie pete fuck yeah
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by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Winky Wright
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by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Put it on a flag.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
so is Jorge Clank-tu
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
There's no risk to getting him on a minor league deal
And seeing if Tidrow can help him.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Hell, they tried that with Dontrelle last year.
And… please don’t hate me… I’d tire-kick Cantu.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
This
I think he would be an upgrade over Hall
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why?
He’s been BABIP’d a bit this year, but even if you give him some of that back its just an awful hitting line. And isn’t Hall a better fielder pretty much everywhere?
Thing A
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I think Hall is also a clank.
What’s worth being DFA’d from SD or Houston?
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I haven't actually looked . . .
. . . but my understanding is that Hall’s defensive stats are very bizarrely scattered from superb to awful, depending on position, even across positions with what one would think are very similar requirements.
Mind, some people think all defensive stats ought to just be put back into the horse.
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Well, okay, but make sure you stand off to the side.
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Dontrelle is actually pitching pretty well this year in Louisville. Cut WAY down on the walks, too.
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Losing Dontrelle is a blow for baseball
He was a good reprasentative for the sport
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Cantu
is definitely an upgrade over the position players left at Fresno at the moment.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Fix Kazmir
then use him as trade bait for Reyes. Git er dun sabes!!
Grant did you make a WOW joke without even realizing?
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by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
man I knew a couple of dudes in my guild like that.
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Only a couple? Must have been a small guild.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I was one of the 2 :(
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really?
Regular computer games are compulsive enough, I was always too scared to try that one.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I was the guild master for a year <.<
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wow
pee in the bottle, no work, etc.?
And was there a Mrs. Jctgamer at the time?
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions
probably very confused
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
actually very pregnant __
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the best sort of purpz
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by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
…Grant rolls another female belf paladin alt
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keithlaw keithlaw
They’d momentarily forgotten about him. “@Mariners: The Mariners have recalled Dustin Ackley.”
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after he was HBP in the first inning by Shane Loux tonight, they probably didn’t want to take any chances.
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MLBTR says the GIants are looking at the Rangers for catcing help
Unfortunately it’s the wrong catcher.
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Taylor Teagarden will be available once Napoli comes off the DL.
Happy?
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Dope name at least
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Teagarden is not altogether terrible
And would certainly be an upgrade over Eli.
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A battery of Madison Bumgarner and Taylor Teagarden...
Sounds like they should be starting for Yale in 1930.
I thought Napoli was a terrible defensive catcher?
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3rd best catcher ERA in the league
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I don't even know who keeps that stat
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Catcher ERA + RBI.
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+SB
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-OPPSB
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I would take all three of those catchers.
No question.
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I think they were talking about Molina
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don't even
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I think that would be greedy.
Most would settle for one of them.
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we can give them Michael Main back
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 15, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
i say just ride the pine for now
i don’t think it’s worth getting rid of stewart’s arm and no one knows the staff enough like whiteside
by big logs Johnson on Jun 15, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Auto Rec
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." -- Willie Mays
2010 = Best .... Year .... Ever.
by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Truly outstanding play
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Pure beautiful baseball.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been watching a lot of college baseball lately...
…and that’s the kind of shit you take for granted. Yes, those guys aren’t especially good compared to their peers, but then you watch kids from Mississippi State try to just catch the ball, and you realize the standards you hold these guys to.
Makes me feel like a dick.
Then I get over it.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I like to feel dicks
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes you feel like a dick...
…sometimes you don’t
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The original line works about the same.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
by iammclovin on Jun 15, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Almond Joy’s got dicks?
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Elite bloggers got dicks
read my bloggers don’t?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I was out with the boy . . .
Watching Super 8 and sneaking glances at MLB on my phone. Who is the slow lumbering dumptruck who was out at home?
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Jun 15, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks . . .
I figured it was a catcher . . . Johnson is AWFULLY slow.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Jun 15, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn’t he have more steals than anyone on our team?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Right you are . . .
He must’ve exhausted himself in the 100+ heat with the roof open in a lame attempt to screw us.
by NiceGuysFinishEtc on Jun 15, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
So you're one of those people who look at their phones in a dark theatre and distract everyone
/noted
The thong is, it happened.
great throws by Rowand and Tejada
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by RichHerreraHomer on Jun 15, 2011 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I could not heap more hatred upon Aaron Rowand if I tried...
and then this squat-swinging son of a slider chaser goes and makes the perfect play.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel good when the ball is hit to him
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Kinda reminds me of this ......
God bless you, Aaron Rowand, and your arm.
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." -- Willie Mays
2010 = Best .... Year .... Ever.
by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh hey, another guy who slid.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Hate to say it
but Posey looks like he is in the same bad position for taking a hit that he was in for the one against Cousins.
hate to say it
he’s standing up.
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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
seems like all the best highlights come out of series in ARI.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Green it up!
The Golden Bear is ever watching
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
by calbearjd on Jun 15, 2011 10:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If you switch two words, I do that all the time.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck it! Out of the Mauve
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That is switching more than two words.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m switching the two words and a letter of my own and it’s not pretty.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
calbearjd : reply fails :: Cody Ross : bat tossing
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Seinfeld would be better without the laugh track
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
oh shit, i forgot wcw was in the thread right now.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I watched two episodes of Seinfeld over the weekend, and I didn’t laugh at them.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You're cool
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
They could put in a barf track and it would still be awesome
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s not a laugh track. it was filmed in front of an audience.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
either way
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
though it's true
there’s not as much of the long awkward pauses that laugh tracks lead to
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
We are watching “The Boy in the Bubble” now, after watching “The Wallet”.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
getting close to the contest (arguably the moment when the show took over)
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
you skipped the watch?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
i dunno, my dad is controlling the dvds
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
you mentioned the audiance
wait until after the contest… every time Kramer comes through the door.. Huge applauds.. In something like the 5th or 6th season they finally told the audiance NOT to laugh at certain points in the show because it was messing up the timing.
this
These shows link to the theater, not film.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I said I hated the laugh track in that show and all the Seinfeld fans got mad.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. They're really good.
And their pitching is not a travesty, which is disheartening.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm glad they don't have Dan Haren anymore though
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Hudson!
DHuddy41 Daniel Hudson
Unreal. One of these days the ball has to start bouncing our way against those guys doesn’t it? It’s ok we still have 10 more vs them!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Did he forget about the one their
right fielder caught without even knowing it?
by nofreetime on Jun 15, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
The D’Backs actually got a LOT of luck last night.
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I'm so smart
jp_on_rye Jenny
At this point, the Diamondbacks/their fans have to see the Giants the way we all saw the Padres last year, huh?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
This is probably true...
but the fact that runs have been scored in these games is why it doesn’t quite feel the same.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The worst I’ve ever seen is the A’s 17-2 mark against the Mariners in 2006.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Rockies/Braves 1993
How do you forget this?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I know I can't
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
How can you remember? You weren’t even born yet.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
I don’t remember any play tonight that could have been considered lucky in favor of the Giants.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they’re referring to the bounce that Rowand got.
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Sure. Maybe. It was still two great plays from Rowand and Tejada to nail him at the plate plus it was a dumb decision in the first place to send Johnson.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I said it at the time and I'll say it again
I think the bounce was unlucky and Rowand made a great play to react to it. I think the ball bounces past a whole lot of outfielders.
Dunno.
I’d say that—from the Giants’ view—the bounce was very fortunate. I don’t mean it was cheap and easy to field, but Rowand himself said in the post-game that he had time to set himself for almost anything. I’m more than willing to give him credit nonetheless for grabbing it cleanly, but once he does, the rest is pie: as long as neither he nor Tejada actually throws the ball away, the runner is going to be dead meat. It was the grab that was the outstanding element of the play.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I totally agree
that it should be an easy play once he fields the ball. Then again, I never quite trust any throw from Rowand so it was pleasing to see an almost perfect toss to Tejada.
K&K also mentioned that when you field a ball barehanded like that you don’t get a chance to set it properly stitch-wise in your hand and it can sometimes cause a poor throw.
I give Rowand credit for being in a good position to field the ball whatever it did. I stand by my statement that I think many left fielders aren’t in such a good fielding position and that ball unexpectedly bounces past them.
Miracles will never cease
french fries are cooked in grease
Both throws were dead on perfect
I agree the grab was the most outstanding element, but the accuracy and speed of both those throws were noteworthy.
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- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
Burrell’s triple. though, I believe he was stranded.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 15, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
the only game they won against us was because Miguel couldn’t catch a baseball, right?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
positive run differential!
+1!
Never in doubt.
by TimLincecumIsGod on Jun 15, 2011 10:43 PM PDT reply actions
Kinda OT
Whew, am I glad the hockey season is over. Successfully fulfilled my promise of rooting for the Canucks for a year if TGWTWS. Let it never be said I don’t fulfill my drunk promises.
It’s a weird Feeling rooting for a completely random team for a half a year…
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by grape on Jun 15, 2011 10:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Not over yet
…you have to go break a window in a Sears or something…
I just hope national treasure @kellyoxford
is far away from these ruffians.
by Every6thDay on Jun 15, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m tempted to hide this because it is difficult to watch.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Two seconds later, he was alive and being an idiot again. Not what you think.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that’s heartening… ish.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
His scrotum was horribly burnt.
So we’re cool. Humanity, I mean. We’re cool. It’s all gravy.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what you get for using hair gel on your scrote-pubes.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll take your word for it. Watching wanton destruction, assholery, and idioticism makes me queasy.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Steve Moskowitz is on Sportsnet central
Now that is queasy
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don’t go crazy. That sounds hilarious.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 15, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yet you watch baseball?
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
I never claimed that my life made sense.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
........................ could you imagine if they DID win???
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." -- Willie Mays
2010 = Best .... Year .... Ever.
by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently it was all chill after the Olympics...
But given how this shit is turning out, I think they might have invaded Seattle if they lost…
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Isnt Vancouver supposed to be chill?
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Not with their hockey
That city is crazy about their hockey.
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Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
Yup
Don’t mess with Canadians and their hockey
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"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I find it very endearing that their national children’s bedtime story is about a hockey rivalry…
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LOL
I absolutely love hockey and wish our country was a little more into it but w/e
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by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
My 2 favorite sports to watch!
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
But hockey is way more exciting than soccer. It’s more fast paced (skates+smaller surface) and the players are 1000x tougher
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Dunno if I ever told this story before...
But about 10 or 15 years ago, I made a conscious decision to pick up another sport. It was between hockey and basketball. Both the Warriors and Sharks were terrible, and I figured that I could enjoy the climb out of the doldrums. I flipped a coin, and it came up Warriors.
So I became a huge Warriors fan, and “We Believe” was amazing, but every time I watch a hockey playoff game, I know that was the sport for me. It has the exacty mix of chaos theory/skill that I love in sports. There’s no way I’ll ever have time to follow hockey like I do baseball, and it bums me out.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, there are half the number of games, so that should help.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
they need to dig up that parking lot across the cove
and put up an arena there. Bring the Sharks up and the Warriors across the bay.
I also played all the major sports except Basketball…. Hockey is hands down the most fun to play.
Half the reason the Sharks get such amazing turnout to all the games is the fact that the 10th largest city in the country has no other truly local sports team. Moving the team to SF probably would hurt more than it would help with all the competition.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
but I live in Pac Heights and dont like to drive.. :-(
but yeah moving the sharks doesnt make sense but I might actually go to a warriors game if they moved to SF.
Oh, I agree on both points. I live in Berkeley and am sick of taking Amtrak to games.
And I think the Warriors would like to move to SF. After all, they sell “the city” shirts and hats at the games, not “the town”
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
There aren’t a lot of people who are both basketball fans and baseball fans. I figure there’s a reason for that.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Two of my favorite writers are huge baseball/basketball wonks: Jon Bois and Tom Ziller. They’re out there. And I really like basketball … I just know hockey would have been a bigger love.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like once you get hooked to hockey you can’t stop. That’s what happened to me anyways… went to one game in person and fell in love with the sport
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"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m from SJ and was mildly into it as a kid because all my friends were (Owen Nolan was like a Greek God to them).
I went to Cornell for Grad School and got SUPER into it because it is their big thing up there. So when I came back to the Bay Area I was addicted.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Owen Nolan was a Greek God just for his hit on Belfour
(Belfour is like the Sharks version of Pierzynski)
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Beautiful.
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF3mROk7Zxc
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
hockey gets the best of most major sports and finds a balance
Precision of Baseball
Speed and team work of basketball
Contact of football
Violence of UFC
International collaboration of MUN?
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"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I feel like if you follow the right people on Twitter and read the right blogs, it’s pretty easy to follow all the major hockey storylines without really watching any of the games. Hockey bloggers tend to be crazy involved in the sport no matter who plays, and so you don’t miss much by not watching the games.
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Wow, so so this
Those guys on FTF are ridiculously comprehensive.
Unfortunately, I couldn’t find a blog of the same quality for the Canucks. The SB nation one is a bit juvenile for my tastes…
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I’m in awe of Jason and Matt. I feel like I should do more, but they have press passes for all the home games, so what can I do?
Puck Daddy is a great all-around blog that focuses on the NHL but doesn’t shy away from international, minors, or college hockey. Definitely the first stop for general hockey news. One of my favorites, though, has to be Down Goes Brown. The guy is hilarious, even if he’s too obsessed with Wendel Clark.
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Down Goes Brown is a must read for hockey fans. Not so much for news but for giggles. That guy is the best!
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The Suspension flowchart is a classic. And frighteningly accurate.
I loved this morning’s post, where he wrote a recap of the Stanley Cup winner’s playoffs 12 hours before the game:
Who can forget that last time you played for Lord Stanley’s mug, back in the early 90s? I bet you can still picture your team competing furiously, proudly representing those black and yellowish-gold uniforms that they wore then and perhaps still do, before finally going down to a bitter defeat. Damn you, Mark Messier!
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Bwahaha
Thanks for leading me to today’s post. That was genius!
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by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
It really was one of his best. While I knew Messier’s Rangers beat the Canucks in 1994, I totally forgot Messier’s Oilers beat the Bruins back in 1990. Crazy how similar those two teams are.
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Thanks for the direction!
I’m unsure if I’m going to stay with hockey next year. It was a really enjoyable ride, but the sport didn’t grab me the same way as baseball did in 2009.
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The Canucks this year were kind of hard to root for because they were so good, there wasn’t much drama. Okay, there was drama in the first round and the Finals, but that was about it.
And go to a game if possible. If you’re not hooked after being at a game, you won’t be hooked at all.
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just follow the playoffs
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn’t have as much wide open space to get lost in as soccer. Also, SKATES!!! WHEE!!!
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
What's the old line?
I went to a fight and a hockey match broke out.
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Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Yeah. It can be like that. Especially when the Bruins and the Canadiens play each other.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The penalty box from that game was standing room only
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha
I remember that game. The Sharks had something similar happen to them when they played Vancouver in the reg. season a couple years ago
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"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
April 8, 2010 (I was just watching the highlights from that game last night, lol).
Near the end of the game, the Sharks had so many people in the box, Clowe couldn’t sit down. The ref yelled at him to sit, and he replied, “I can’t!” The ref then told him to sit on someone’s lap.
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No idea.
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Cal is really into rugby. But that is an isolate pocket of interest.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
My high school was very into rugby (partly because it was the one sport we were good at) and the coach was a Cal alum.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
When Cal announced they were cutting some sports teams
the biggest outcry at first was about the Rugby team, not the Baseball team.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup. Which has made them popular.
I expect that there will be a much better Cal Baseball turnout next year.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer watching rugby to NFL. I really liked the Mandela pic with all the rugby even though the reviewers said all the sports sequences were boring.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Casting Damon as Pienaar is like casting Peter Dinklage as Matt Cain.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Peter Dinklage could pull that off if he needed to.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Why doesn't anyone talk about cricket!
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they do!
But it takes them three days to formulate a comment and by then you’re nine threads past them.
by wcw on Jun 15, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
This should be green.
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
El Person signal
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by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I would
If someone would explain the god damn rules for me!
From the enthusiasm of the S. Asians on my college campus and the Fijians at Excelsior park when I was a kid, I assume it’s got to be a blast…
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It’s not that hard to understand!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Yeah, the basics are simple, simpler than baseball. It’s just the duration thing.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I have an Indian friend that has tried many times to explain it to me and it helps none.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It makes sense pretty fast once you start actually watching it, from my experience.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
That might help.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm a cricket fan
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Buddy Holly is awesome
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Apparently 22 million or so Canadians watched the gold medal game last year. There are only 33 million Canadians, total. That’s almost The Beatles on Ed Sullivan levels. That’s like the Super Bowl getting twice as many people to watch it as they already do.
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Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
So much space, so few people …
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
I think the US had similar numbers for the gold medal game (about 28 million IIRC) but we have 300 million people!
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Very. But I have limited exposure to the city.
Anecdotally, every fan I met over the last couple weeks has been ridiculously nice.
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
Canadians + hockey = madness
Didn’t you see Happy Gilmore?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
This is not what Johnny Canuck would do
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
They keep jumping over fire
I saw 2 other fires that they jumped over. Weird
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
As is tradition
"I dont always hit home runs, but when I do, I prefer World Series winning home runs"
Interesting
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 15, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know Canadians had it in them.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you guys not notice the guy doing pushups next to the car???
LOL
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
wtf?
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
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by nostocksjustbonds on Jun 15, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
on the left side of the video. so random
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
So they had special live coverage of a drunken riot with commentary on the insane stunts?
Probably broke for commercials during some of this
I heard the riot started right in front of a TV station
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I know CBC Vancouver’s headquarters are really close to Rogers Arena, and CTV’s aren’t that far either.
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Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
IIRC CTV’s are a little further from the arena. I think the distance is the better part of a mile.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Yeah, they’re farther, but still within walking/rioting distance.
I stayed at the YWCA around the corner from Rogers Arena and down the street from CBC back in April. I wonder if they got hit by the riot.
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Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
Stay classy Vancouver
Morons.
Still the father of two-time Cy Young Award winner Tim Lincecum.
"Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be." - John Wooden
Friend just posted some pictures on Facebook
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
my friend's husband just posted a video
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
see, now this is getting out of hand
And I speak as a former resident of Metro Manila.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember … was it 2007? When the elite Army Rangers rebelled and deployed all around the big shopping center a couple of blocks from me, mined the columns, and set up machine gun nests. Fun fun fun.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I dimly recall a military rebellion in Bangladesh not too long ago, although I don’t remember whether it was in Dhaka or out in the provinces.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
The military elements in thePhilippines learned that no one pays attention unless you’re doing it among the swanky hotels of the international district. Of course, this was when Gloria was president, and she just ordered in the tanks.
Sigh.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t they always order in the tanks?
This accounts (in part) for why the Yugoslav dissolution was peaceful in Slovenia: the Slovenes arranged for the local tank commanders to desert. When the central government realized Slovenia had tanks, it became quite conciliatory.
Filipinos tend to be talky and showy, not do-ey. They miscalculated when she ordered a tank to roll into the lobby of the swanky hotel they took over, and open fire.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, she wasnt that hard ass. No one was hit, it was targeted at the doors/walls. Still, it was like, “WAIT WHAT I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST DUELING PRESS CONFERENCES ON CNN.”
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, as the old saying goes...
Never bring a press conference to a tank fight.
When Estrada was deposed, was it a military coup? I can’t recall.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Military deserted him after the middle class of Manila revolted. Gloria was his VP.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Respect to both of you ......
me being a one time resident in Kill-adelphia. Never again.
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." -- Willie Mays
2010 = Best .... Year .... Ever.
by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
"With glowing hearts we see thee rise" ......
up in smoke. Oh Canada.
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." -- Willie Mays
2010 = Best .... Year .... Ever.
by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently the Canadian metric for “a small number of people” is different than ours.
Bruce Bochy would like you to look at the career numbers and stop complaining.
Bob Howry's #1 (and only) fan!!!
The Merkin Valdez of McCovey Chronicles!!!!!!
/Stephen Harper declares martial law, appoints himself dictator for life
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's a pic from the North Shore
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Fear the Fin - NEEDS MORE DOVES
that is so wrong. I’m sorry, but you don’t riot your own fucking city when you lose. I feel sorry for all the firefighters who are going to spend all night dealing with that.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Def should’ve walked their a$$es to Boston and rioted that bitch up…
by Kellin Moore on Jun 16, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The funny thing is you used dollar signs for the asses but felt comfortable with ‘rioted that bitch up’.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember being at a Laker game in Inglewood the night one of the Rodney King verdicts came down. That was the real deal
My roommates back when went to the Rodney King riots. One of them marched across the Bay Bridge, then when he realized the police cordon performing the arrests was kinda porous, walked through it and somehow caught a ride home. The other went downtown, and when the kids started breaking windows and looting, he went looting with them. Except the kids were apparently pros — all he got was a t-shirt from the Gap store. He considered writing on it with fabric paint, ‘I went to the Rodney Kind riots and all I looted was this fucking t-shirt,’ but unfortunately he didn’t.
now THAT was a riot.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, theres a difference between a riot, where you see mass panic, and just a bunch of clowns doing some sort of flash mob burning man event in some city
I was at Disneyland on a family vacation when the Rodney King riots started ......
we then got the hell out of there.
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." -- Willie Mays
2010 = Best .... Year .... Ever.
by GIANT stoner on Jun 15, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
wasn’t it safe in OC?
I heard that the OC police basically barricaded the streets that led from Long Beach/Cerritos > OC
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 15, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
(For those who may not know, this is a reference to Arrested Development.)
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
If you don't know that
I don’t want to know you.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I didn’t until the other thread. I don’t like single-camera comedies. ;)
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
But it's so good!
Give it a chance!
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m being exposed to it via arrestedwesteros.tumblr.com
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m cool with making that sort of mistake.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
This did look funny though
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never encountered anyone of that opinion before.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Hi! I’m shanghaijim. I hate fun and modernity.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
But Parks and Recreation!
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
/shrug
What can I say? I don’t want to watch it.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you were cool S.J….
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Me! LOLOLOL. I’ve never been cool and never tried to be.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
What is it about them that you don’t like?
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Usually it’s the “interview” segments.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
We weren’t taking ANY chances.
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." -- Willie Mays
2010 = Best .... Year .... Ever.
by GIANT stoner on Jun 16, 2011 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, this is kind of funny
wyshynski
They’ve closed bridges in Vancouver. It’s official: This is one Scarecrow away from being the Arkham riot from Batman Begins.
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LOL
This girl on Tumblr read the preview for Episode 10, something about “Two of his children see Ned again, a third has a very up-close-and-personal reunion” and she was all OMG MAYBE? YES?
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I wish that I hadn’t ruined that for myself. Still the last ep hit me like a sack of bricks.
So, worth reading the books if I’ve already wiki-spoiled everything in them?
Proud of both my adopted son, Baggs, and my ward, Ryan LOLlis.
they're really good books
possibly the best fantasy series I’ve ever read, and there’s still 3 more books incoming not to spoil.
so, yes.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 15, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I'm one of those people who like spoiling themselves
I like to know what’s coming plot-wise so I can focus on how they get there. So I don’t feel like I lost anything when I read the wiki before finishing the books, or read the books before the show.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
MCC Poll
Tomorrow Night’s Roof – forecast is 101 degrees:
(a) Open
(b) Closed
[Message and Data charges may apply]
"It'll break your heart. It's designed to break your heart."
- A. Bartlett Giamatti
May apply?
Doesn’t Grant charge extra for voting in polls?
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San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Only if you vote for something other than "Squid!"
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
hahaha
Leave it open, you A-holes. It’s working pretty well so far.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm glad we're banking these wins
and i dont feel like criticizing anyone on the team tonite. just chillin
KNBR caller suggests to trade for Matt Wieters
problem solved!!!
Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington. Walk this way.
M-M-M-M-Mad, Mad to the Bum
BECAUSE HE IS GETTING CAIN'd
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 15, 2011 11:13 PM PDT reply actions
screw that
take the time machine and bring back Del Crandall!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Fucking Marlins
For the first two months this season, Rodriguez and the Marlins were one of baseball’s surprise feel-good stories. Three weeks ago they were 29-19 and one game behind Philadelphia in the National League East. Team president David Samson and general manager Larry Beinfest were so euphoric after a three-game sweep of the Giants in San Francisco, they ordered 200 In-N-Out burgers for the charter flight out of town.
Rodriguez trying to keep Fish afloat
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
LOL
Karma is a bitch
"What happens in the broadcast booth stays in the broadcast booth." Randy Hahn
"Pity is the drug of quitters" Drew Remenda
by hautecouture on Jun 15, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m finding it hard to feel bad.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 15, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Divine intervention.
"But here’s what I like most about the big leagues: the water pressure in the showers. The water pressure is outstanding. You get clean in half the time." - Brandon Belt
by deegreentea on Jun 15, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Tim Lincecum intercepted the delivery and ate them all
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I imagine the Giants pulling an Ocean’s Eleven heist/switch.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
they’ve certainly got the cast to pull it off.
though I’d stray from making Wilson the explosives expert.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff & Burrell = the mormon twins
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, we’ve established that Bill Hall is Basher.
"I hate that mountain. I love baseball."
by Four Point Nine Eight on Jun 15, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants have a Don Cheadle look-alike in Bill Hall. All is well.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Hello? This is a turtle.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Mrs. Disaster will be extremely jealous… I must never let her find out.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
the $15 custom turtlecall
this turtlecall is like the super turtlecall except that the turtle will imitate anyone you want him to
that means maybe you can ask the turtle to pretend to be captain picard of the uss enterprise
the turtle will not pretend to be commander riker so do not try that
GROUGTHINK ALERT
This baseball thing is pretty cool
Cassilla for Yorvit Torrealba!?
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
Uh
Casilla for anything is a good deal.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
according to baggs, it's in the works...just arguing over Yorvits 2012 pay
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Jun 15, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
baggs is usually legit...
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Jun 15, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
According to sources, the Giants have engaged the Texas Rangers in trade discussions for catcher Yorvit Torrealba. The Rangers are seeking help in the bullpen and are interested in right-hander Santiago Casilla.
But talks fell apart, in part because Torrealba is owed $3.25 million in 2012 and the Giants want Texas to pick up a portion of his salary.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Jun 15, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
fap fap fap
Oh please oh please for the love of god even a competent second string catcher please.
I'd be in favor of it
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Torrealba 2008-11 83 wRC+
Nothing special, but Whiteside is at 67.
and
Yorvit seems to keep balls from rolling to the backstop.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Do it!!!!!!!!!!!
Pick up his salary and throw an extra million in as lagniappe. JUST DO IT.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Yeah, this salary thing makes no sense
Really? You’re going to let Casilla-for-Torrealba get hung up over, like, 2 million dollars?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
MADDUX MONEY
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Wow
I can’t believe Greg Maddux has been retired for 3 years.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Suzyn Waldman's freakout over Roger Clemens
was 4 years ago.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
B R I A N S A B E A N
’Nuff said?
“Oh, and who’s going to pick up the tab for all these phone calls?”
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
Baggs says
the hang up is over Torrealba’s salary for 2012, not 2011. That makes a little more sense, but it should still get done.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
do it, 100%. That way Posey doesn’t have to catch 150 games next year, either… that is, if he comes back as a catcher.
Torrealba is the perfect option here, signed through next season.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but . . .
. . . his salary next year exceeds the cost of a bag of peanuts, so Sabean is kvetching and sulking about it.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
At this point, for a catcher who can hit .270 or whatever with good defense, that 3.25MM is a steal. And you’re only giving up Casilla, who is meh at best.
Remember, he paid Miguel Tejada 6.5MM (and he probably won’t even be around come Sept)
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what has to really stick in the craw.
He drops money from airplanes flying over the city, then balks at this.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
the flip side is that he dumped so much money from airplanes that he has nothing left to address real needs.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I'll bet . . .
. . . that if he slaps enough pockets he’ll find those few bills he forgot he had tucked away there.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe
obtaining catching help makes a real deep playoff run a realistic goal again.
with Whiteside, it is not. His defense is just too bad.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I’m pretty sure that with a bit of practice Torrealba could be a perfectly cromulent backup corner infielder or outfielder.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I don't disagree with that
but I can see why you wouldn’t want to pay a backup catcher over 3 mil next year when you already have Posey (and Sandoval) on the roster. We really need to find someone to take Rowand and 3 mil of his 2012 salary off our hands
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
that can be determined at a later date, and Torrealba is always trade-able.
At this point, you don’t know that he would be a backup catcher, either. Posey may not come back on time. He may not come back as a catcher. Get Torrealba, know the position is covered, and be happy. Deal with the rest later.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
you know
if you’re going to pay Miguel Fucking Tejada $6M, you better be able to find $3M to pay for the ML-quality C that you didn’t bother to acquire in 2010.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Come on
$6 Million for Tejada was market
Also why would the Giants sign a ML-quality C in 2010 when they have Posey?
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Because they paid $6M for a sub-ML quality C in 2010, and would not have to go fishing for one now.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
You totally lost me
If you’re talking about Bengie, he was suppose to be a bridge (i.e. one year deal). No matter what happened, he would have not been on the team this year.
There was no way that the Giants would (or should) spend money on a position that is was being occupied by a stud 24-year player.
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Yes I am. The word was that “Posey isn’t ready”, in which case you need a real C if you intend to compete.
And even if not, Posey could be injured, in which case you need an ML C to compete. All that “O NOES DONT BLOCK POSEY” stuff was nonsense. And now they are looking for a C in mid-season.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
No one pays
for two MLB catchers. It’s just not a realistic thing. Just about every team pays for one good catcher and a crappy backup or two average catchers.
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Texas has Yorvit and Napoli and Teagarden. And they’re about to turn one into a reliever. As did the Giants last year, if you want to consider Molina an ML quality C.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Two average catchers IS two MLB catchers, no?
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
True
but not if each are paid $3+ million.
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OK
this is the team that people are suggesting will pay Rowand $12M to go away next year or Zito $50M to go away.
Either they want to compete in the playoffs, or they want to bubble gum and baling wire their way past the crappy NL West.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
You still need to sign Timmy, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner
Also Posey and Panda arbs.
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And that day comes one year closer while doing nothing to provide those stellar arms with a ML-quality backstop.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
but one of the benefits
of a great young catcher, is that you don’t have to pay him 3 mil+ yet.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
I think its a little different
when the position is catcher
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
and
you have Chris Stewart (not a knock on him, he seems to be a good defender) as your first-in-the-hole replacement in Fresno.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Seven years too late, but I’ll take it.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
seriously
Wouldn’t that have just prevented the Molina Era entirely? And Molina Redux?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait, where is this?
I can’t find the link.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It was completely randomly inserted into his game story tonight.
Looked like some sort of bad cut and paste.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Alleged San Jose molester teacher has 'medical condition,' her attorney says
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, that was the top headline on Mercury News. I’ll click on the one below it.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
It looks like it's gone now from the story.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
And, no matter what, that is interesting.
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I'm no expert
But to me, it looked like a paragraph from a story Baggs was writing for a different article that got accidentally put into the gamer.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Oh you're right
It’s at the end of the story now. I thought it was in the middle before.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Does Djorvit want to come back to SF, or has he just been pissy because SF didn’t want him?
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by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Randy Winn was a lot better than anyone here seems to remember him being
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He hit .290/.345/.432 as a Giant with phenomenal defense
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
yeah that was a really great trade
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
With a .954 classy+RBI
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. Overall he was a good Giant. And classy as fuck.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you are making this up
Randy Winn was very well thought of around these parts.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions
This. The only time he was hated on was during that last year.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
and Yorvit's replacement
a lot worse.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Torrealba's ZiPS RoS
.268/.317/.388
What’s that phrase everyone here likes so much?
Perfectly cromulent?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Yeah, that’s a ridiculous trade. Not that Yorvit is a great player, but it makes so much damned sense. Especially since Kroon is basically Casilla with 4+ mph.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 15, 2011 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Not unlike Vogelsong….
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, kind of unlike him.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Then we can bring up KROOON?
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
probably just activate Zito
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Z
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Uuurrrrggghhh .....
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." -- Willie Mays
2010 = Best .... Year .... Ever.
by GIANT stoner on Jun 16, 2011 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with these facepalms
but it’s less facepalm-y than watching Whitey ole more pitches to the backstop.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I just remembered
Denny Bautista.
Did they just mail his ring to him?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
holy fuck, he threw 33 innings last year!?
WTF, I thought he threw like 12.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
NEVER FORGET
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=8494701
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I got him confused with Casilla for a long time.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
There were definite similarities.
One down, one to go.
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Bautista was, like, all of Casilla’s qualities exaggerated.
K-rate over 11
BB-rate over 7
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
The Giants seem to have a lot of guys like that. It makes one appreciate Romo that much more.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
there was a chunk of 2010 where the two of them and Mota were basically the same pitcher
Eventually Mota settled into acceptable mop-up duty and Casilla started throwing 97 in the strike zone. Bautista just kept being Bautista.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 15, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Mota . . .
. . . is by far the best of the lot. He’s a somewhat better than average pitcher. He was great for a while this year, then had a blowup or two that crippled his stats. He is quite useful but not irreplaceable.
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he's looking better than Casilla this year
Last year, not so much.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 15, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Bautista
one of the worst I recall seeing get regular PT. If you can’t come into mop-up situations without walking boatloads of guys, you need to be selling baseballs, not throwing them.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Funny how Jim Bowden figures in this thread along with the Marlins's epic cratering
The day after the Sabean comments, Bowden and his partner on MLB network radio spent a good three hours trying to destroy Sabean and Posey and fawning over the Marlins, having Gabby Sanchez and then Logan Morrison on to give their take on the Cousins play. Cousins was a noble salt of the earth and an entitled Posey was a pussy for not taking Cousins call was their whole theme. Morrisons call was juvenile beyond belief in his personal attacks on Posey and Bowden cheered that on. They even wanted to replay the embarrassing Morrison interview a second time.
I remember it just like it was a week or two ago.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still a little perturbed by the number of people who personally attacked Buster for the whole thing.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
It was pretty fucked up
Sabean spouting off was fair game, but I don’t understand the vitriol against Buster. Maybe it was an attempt at moral justification, or maybe Logan Morrison is just dumb.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 15, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they kinda took it as Sabean saying what Buster couldn’t? Sabean “passing on” Busters thoughts?
Which was not the case, but there’s idiots everywhere.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
If it turns out . . .
. . . that there was (or is) any shred of truth in the Casilla/Torrealba deal rumor and Torrealba isn’t in uni by Friday, Sabean should be canned on the spot by BowTie, who could temporarily replace Sabean with any reasonably bright secretary.
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and now that we have his secret, we can dump him without losing anything.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Chasm?
Posey and tonight’s game winner…IIRC
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Posey was thought of as the best talent in the draft and we took him at #5. Not exactly a genius pick. I would credit him for Gary Brown and Brandon Belt, but then I would point to Conor Gillaspie, Tommy Joseph, Chris Dominguez, Carter Jurica, Roger Kiescknick. Basically he has had 2 good picks, 1 obvious pick and a bunch of disappointments. I look at the talent level in our farm and I’m not impressed. This most recent draft didn’t help my impression of Barr either.
The Giants made some really, really, really really crappy picks when it came to position players before Barr.
Barr has moved them from really, really, really really crappy on the nonpitcher side to mixed. Big step up.
Who isn’t mixed? And who says Panik is already a bust?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it’s actually Bow Tie who is kaiboshing the deal because of the $$$.
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- A. Bartlett Giamatti
If so, . . .
. . . he’d better pray that that never becomes public knowledge. But I rather doubnt it, considering the (relative) puniness of the amounts at issue: that kind of niggleshit is much more Sabean’s flavbor.
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also, teams put money away for trade deadline acquisitions. I’d consider getting Torrealba our deadline deal.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
well, maybe it’s just negotiating posturing and the deal will be done in the end.
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I’d hope this to be the case. With Torrealba, this team could make a real playoff run again. With Whiteside, his defense/arm is so bad that I don’t see how it could be possible. Teams would run all over us when they’re not picking up free runs from passed balls.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 15, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
You exaggerate.
Greatly. Nonetheless, it might take back one of the three wins losing Posey is likely to cost.
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Personally, I believe that Whiteside would cripple this team in the playoffs. The competition is much stiffer and more likely to exploit your weaknesses.
Playoff teams don’t have black holes offensively and defensively catching for them. It’s a notoriously strong position for teams that advance deep.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 16, 2011 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
And Whiteside has been defensively fine till recently.
Why people think that fielders can’t have slumps is beyond me. He’s a fine receiver going through a rough spell. But an upgrade on his bat would be most helpful.
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If it’s just a “slump” defensively, it’s a very odd time for it to happen- right when he starts playing everyday.
It’s like the old notion that you can hide a bad defender for a game here or there, but play them F/T and their flaws will be exposed extremely quickly. Like the Huff in RF thing. He was fine out there for a few games last year, but once he gets daily P/T…. it’s over.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 16, 2011 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Au contraire . . .
. . . it is the most likely time. A suddenly expanded workload and an unexpected great pressure: well-known surefire cues for upped performance? (And Huff played 57 games in the OF, starting in 29 of them—not “a few”; he wasn’t great, but he wasn’t terrible.)
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We better be careful giving expanded playtime to Pat Burrell then
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
LF ≠ C
The physical demands of catching are not something one suddenly takes up on an everyday basis after two years of once or twice a week. And Burrell is well enough used to carrying responsibility.
Unless you were jesting.
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Whiteside was just as bad defensively as Bengie Molina last year.* Although people here give him good reviews behind the plate (perhaps tainted by the no-hitter), he was never actually good.
*Let me find the source article for that, just a sec
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Well, LOL, since I can't seem to find my source, I guess my comment is moot.
My adopted Giant, the young Reinier Roibal
Here. Bengie: -0.3 runs relative to average. Whitey: -2.3
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
That looks like . . .
. . . a pretty crappy patched-up “easy to figure” tabulation (I bet Jim, Bowden would love it).
If we try baseball-reference.com’s “Rtot/yr” stat (though I trust none of these), in 2010 it shows Molina at -13 and Whiteside at -11. Make of that what you will.
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yes
and better yet, done a month early rather than waiting to “see how it goes”.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Shift-A: What'd I miss?
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Crazy sports fans are crazy. Jeez.
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
I hope Seattle is prepared to defend itself against the hordes of ravening Canadians.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
/Niles checks for nearest exits
Damn, TL2 is asleep.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
The ferries are from Victoria, not Vancouver…
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
I can see trenches being dug from my window.
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Won’t the Minutemen defend us?
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by Murray, Present on Jun 16, 2011 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
The Minutemen think there’s only one border and white people can’t be illegal.
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 16, 2011 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Torrealba for Casilla!!!
/but Sabes doesn’t want to pay him
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Wait, what?
Did this actually almost happen? I thought Twitter was joking…
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
It’s legit.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
And it didn’t go through…? Did Sabes say no or did the other guy (who’s name I can’t remember off the top of my head)?
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Sabes doesn’t want to pay all of Yorvit’s 2012 money.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
……..is he insane?
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
“I AM NOT AN IDIOT!”
Pease was never an option.
by shanghaijim on Jun 15, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Rhetorical question, one assumes?
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You know how OPS is just OBP and SLG added together?
We decided that wasn’t enough adding.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
And . . .
. . . multiplication (which is what is wanted) is way too complicated.
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Follow-up...
Did Hall play and if he did how’d he look?
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Had an RBI hit his first at-bat and a double later in the game.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
o.0
Well that’s one way to start things off. Defense?
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
didn't swallow his glove, didn't blow anyone away
i think he made one nice pick on a moderately tricky backhand
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 15, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Neglected to slide and killed a rally.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 15, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Forgot about that.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 16, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
"Neglected"?
I doubt that. He chose to come in standing, obviously hoping to break up the DP (which it did). Whether that was very unwise or just a good try that got caught is open for discussion. My feeling is that if he doesn’t try it, it’s a DP, so nothing lost, but others may have seen it differently.
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they said on the postgame that you have to slide into 2B. Which I did not believe. but he did run right into Johnson, which is interference.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 16, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
So far as I can see in the Rules . . .
. . . there is no requirement for a slide. There is a Rule about interfering with a fielder, but it’s a judgement call by the umpire, so it seems reasonable to try the takeout, on the theory that the worst off you can be is where you would have been anyway without trying (that is, if you feel the DP is virtually certain).
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Couresty of nofreetime in the GDT
Rule 7.08 Any runner is out when—
(f) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes
with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious
intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner
out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his
teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a
runner.
Rule 7.09
(e) Any batter or runner who has just been put out, or any runner who has just scored,
hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall
be declared out for the interference of his teammate;
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
Just so.
No requirement per se to slide into any base.
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These rules were put out as an estimation of the rule. K&K & Co. seemed to imply that sliding specifically was a recent rule, that a gritty veteran such as Hall may not be aware of. Can’t teach an old dog new tricks and such.
Did you catch the replay?
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
It would have to be very recent:
My Rulebook is for 2010.
Yeh, watched it; I’m still not 100% sure that the DP is made if he just slides, but I’m much inclined to think so, and can easily believe he was convinced of it. As I said, in that case, he risks nothing by trying the standup—the ump might not necessarily call interference. (Though not waving that arm might have helped his cause.)
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As far as I can tell
you are correct that there is no rule per se that requires a slide at second. The rule is interference with a fielder after you have been called out and you are correct that interference is a judgment call.
In every associations that I have umpired, there is the released, official rules of the game book and then a separate umpire rule book that contains the other book as well as additional sections for umpires that add interpretations for the published rules. It could be that MLB added something to the umpires section that provides additional guidance about sliding on plays such as this.
Yeah
I think they view sliding as an attempt to avoid interfering….similar to running out toward left field on the same play or just dropping to a crouch.
I would have called interference on Hall.
The thong is, it happened.
Me, too, but that's not the crux.
The crux—or so it seems to me—is whether his non-slide was stupid, or at least non-optimal. If it was reasonable for him to consider the DP highly likely with a slide, then what he did wasn’t dumb at all; indeed, it was smart. As I said above, absolute worst case is you’re where you would have been anyway—2 outs—and there is always some small chance you might get away with it.
Whether the DP was certain, or reasonably would appear that way to him, is still an open question, but I think it was a reasonable likelihood.
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Interference makes the double play inevitable. It was not a smart or good baseball play.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it was the arm up . . .
. . . that was the kiss of death. I have seen things not much different from what he did—absent that upraised arm—slide by umps.
But he did put the arm up, so I reckon one cannot object to your conclusion.
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if you watch closely
you’ll see him put a hand up to try to block the throw. You’re out, Hall, and leave the Milwaukee little league bullshite in MIL.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Does someone have the faces of Ron Swanson image?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
1 sec
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, crunch wrap supremes for 99 cents this week
I am going to feel terrible amounts of shame and regret
The first six innings are overrated.
More from Vancouver
They are tear gassing the crowds now, so the riot will probably break up soon.
by WhatsAMataHari on Jun 15, 2011 11:47 PM PDT reply actions
I'd be happy with
Torres CF
Fontenot SS
Belt LF
Sandoval 3B
Ross RF
Huff 1B
Torrealba C
Hall 2B
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I still have hope for Casilla, obviously, but he's good trade bait
But the idea of Yorvit in a Giants uniform again makes me nervous in ways I can’t quite explicate. I feel like he’d fall off a cliff.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 15, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
pretty much
i really like casilla myself. he’s a bit of wilson on meth. put him in boring situations and the guy stinks up the joint. throw him in with the bases loaded, and he does some miraculous stuff. most of the time. casilla for torrealba looks like a good deal though and i’d hold my tongue
by Brannigan's Law on Jun 16, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
This isn’t despicable.
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by Soulbrother16 on Jun 15, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's Crawford vs. Hall for playtime
Unless Fontenot has an inexplicable decline, he’s got good OBP and some pop, especially as a second baseman.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 16, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course . . .
. . . that’s based on rational evaluation. And we all know how applicable that is to this team.
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I’d personally go with a Hall/Fontenot platoon at 2B unless Crawford falls off a cliff. His defense is too good.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 16, 2011 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
My gut agrees with you
But hitting is so frigging hard to find on this team that when the tradeoff isn’t a defensive black hole, the Giants should seek every advantage they can get.
That said, I think Crawford has the potential to be a decent bat at short if he can keep taking pitches. So we’ll see. I’m sure Bochy will just do something bizarre anyway.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 16, 2011 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather play Fontenot and Hall than Crawford
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Am inclined to agree, but . . .
. . . we have till Fontenot is ready to get a further look at Crawford. SSS for stats, but some help for the eyeballs.
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I don't trust anyone's eyeballs over a 4 week period.
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Not for definite conclusions.
<p.
But preliminary and not necessarily useless impressions.
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Giants should trade for Torrealba
guarantees another Texas/SF World Series
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when Giants trade catchers midseason, they win World Series. Science!
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by giant4life83 on Jun 16, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather not get Yorvit
even though dumping casilla and calling up Kroon or runzler again would be nice.
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No
I mean i’d rather get someone else. Definitley don’t want Chris Stewart starting but i think i’d rather have someone like Landon Powell on the cheap than another go at Yorvit.
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by kezargiants on Jun 16, 2011 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Powell can’t hit. There’s little else around. I don’t think the Reds will give a C to someone they might have to play in the postseason.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
and anyway
the A’s won’t trade Powell, especially to the Giants.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d be okay with Yorvit.
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by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I am really disappointed that Jon Benjamin’s show isn’t very funny.
The first six innings are overrated.
OT: ctv.ca has given out...
…anyone have another live feed for Vancouver?
yeah mine gave out awhile ago
The massiveness of this makes the Oscar Grant protests and 2002 Raiders riots seem like a walk in the park.
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by kezargiants on Jun 16, 2011 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Just stop, Vancouver
Canadians take their hockey way too seriously.
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by Murray, Present on Jun 16, 2011 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Freddy Sanchez:
Apparently he had the conference and his surgeon concurred with the team: give it six weeks or so of rest and see if you can do anything then. Linky.
Freddy Sanchez will rest and rehab his injured right shoulder for six weeks before determining whether to have season-ending surgery.If he can do without the surgery, he can start rehabbing. If I recall and understand what I have read, the gist is that at worst he tries and can’t—that is, he’s not going to make it worse by trying, since off-season surgery is mandated anyway.
Giants trainer Dave Groeschner said Sanchez had been keeping his options open until he sought a second opinion from Dr. Gary Waslewski, who examined him Wednesday and concurred with the team medical staff.
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What is this joke from? Did this actually happen?
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by giant4life83 on Jun 16, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
ah, I see. poor Noah. I thought a doctor actually took out a rib on accident.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 16, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
If he delays the surgery to the off-season
Will he still ready opening day?
The thong is, it happened.
Come back Yorvit!
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by Murray, Present on Jun 16, 2011 12:12 AM PDT reply actions
Prob not, per Baggs
No, I was told firmly. Posey will catch again next season. That isn’t a question at all.
The Giants have looked everywhere outside the organization for catching help. CBS Sports today linked the Giants to the Texas Rangers, and the report got it half right. According to my sources, the Giants asked about Yorvit Torrealba, not Taylor Teagarden. But Texas wanted Santiago Casilla, and offered no relief on the $3.25 million Torrealba would make next season.
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ah, the money is about next season. even still, he’s a hella better catcher than Whiteside; 3.25M doesn’t sound that bad.
Compare it to Tejada.
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Thereabouts.
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This makes it sound like the Giants don’t want to give up Santiago Casilla.
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Worse yet.
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How did we go from Casilla for Yorvit
to this?
As of this moment, anyone else — even an unsexy backup like the Yankees’ Francisco Cervelli — would cost the Giants someone like Dan Runzler or Zack Wheeler or worse.
That would be one of the worst Giants trades of all time.
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what.
where is that from?
Thing A
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The baggs notes
I don’t get his train of thought- how could Pudge or Yorvit be had for spare parts but Cervelli of all people would require a Wheeler name drop!
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by kezargiants on Jun 16, 2011 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
all I know is if Torrealba was offered for Casilla and they bickered over money, that would be real lame.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 16, 2011 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Really, I say again:
If the reported offer was really on the table and does not happen because Sabean fiddled, that will be a stupendous error on his part.
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The Giants have looked everywhere outside the organization for catching help. CBS Sports today linked the Giants to the Texas Rangers, and the report got it half right. According to my sources, the Giants asked about Yorvit Torrealba, not Taylor Teagarden. But Texas wanted Santiago Casilla, and offered no relief on the $3.25 million Torrealba would make next season.
They don’t have to trade wheeler, the Giants said no to Casilla for Torrealba. Clearly they’re not going to trade Wheeler for Cervelli.
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Clearly they would never actually do it
but the mere mention scares the bejesus out of me.
Giants should make a move like Pittsburgh’s for McKenry.
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by kezargiants on Jun 16, 2011 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Well...there's this from Bagg's Postgame Notes
But Texas wanted Santiago Casilla, and offered no relief on the $3.25 million Torrealba would make next season.
The Torrealba talks ended there, and there’s little to suggest they will pick up again.
Belted!
by AndYourBirdCanSing on Jun 16, 2011 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
seems like it's a dead rumor.
My guess is Giants pull out a trade sometime in early or mid July for a semi well known catcher.
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by kezargiants on Jun 16, 2011 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, Mr. Leprechaun, pots of gold have no interest for me.
My mind is on higher things (like Miguel tejada’s salary).
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I really like Baggs, but Runzler and Wheeler aren’t even close to being on the same level. And trade-wise, it can’t get that much than giving up Wheeler.
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In that Runzler has at least pitched in a major league game?
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Well
if the asking price for Torrealba is Casilla, I shudder to think what the asking price for the other two are.
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I’d trade Casilla so fast. He’s our lowest leveraged reliever in the pen and he’s not striking anyone out right now (I know SSS).
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I understand
but we’re talking about Torrealba. Casilla isn’t great but he’s still a MLB-level bullpen guy.
I think the problem is that the Giants need to talk to non-contenders. Texas wants something in return that can help them now.
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Is there much of a difference between Casilla and Kroon? If so, I’m having a hard time seeing it right now.
Yorvit would be a nice addition. He really makes sense.
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Kroon
has a 1.421 WHIP, a 4.26 ERA, 8.9 H/9, 1.1 HR/9 in AAA. Not exactly lighting it up.
Casilla was very good last year and is at least MLB level.
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Casilla may or may not be able to return to his outstanding performance last year … but he’s still the #3 right-handed reliever in the pen, at very best. Maybe #4 or #5. Wouldn’t you rather have a starting catcher?
Different question
1) Torrealba is not exactly Johnny Bench. His OPS+ is 63 while Eli’s is 76. I’m not sure about the defensive comparisons but Whiteside is serviceable.
2) My original question was not about Torrealba but rather what it would take to get the other two better Cs from the Rangers.
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I would flip for Napoli, but the Giants need average(ish) steady production (Yorvit) and not blackholes of suck (Whiteside/Stewart).
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if they can get
an average bat for C in June by moving Casilla, GO GO GO GO!
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
but Yorvit has not been a steady producers this year. He’s basically Whiteside
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Yeah, but career totals matter. Yorvit is a career 80-ish wRC+ hitter with average defense and average baserunning. Whiteside really can’t approach that. Heck, I’d make the swap on defense alone.
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To be fair, Yorvit’s ROS for ZIPS isn’t overly pretty.
.258/.299/.374
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thats his total season ZiPs
RoS is .264/.315/.385 and thats a whole lot prettier than what we got.
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That’s a .306 wOBA over the rest of the year. I’ll take it. We don’t need Yorvit to hit like Posey, but he can’t be a blackhole. And I’m getting to the point where I’m starting to believe that Whiteside’s defense isn’t good. If he can’t play solid D, then he really has no business in the lineup.
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I think I heard a ball hit the backstop in Arizona.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
If he can’t play solid D, then he really has no business in the lineup.
This is the thing. Still, Torrealba is not good.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
he's a somewhat below-average hitter for a catcher
Your major-league starting catcher probably should hit 90% as well as a league-average hitter, and Torrealbe probably hits 80% as well.
Whiteside hits 65% as well. Torrealba is a huge upgrade.
And he has a glove that can be used to catch pitches before they get to the screen.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s an upgrade. But I don’t have to like it.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Apparently, I have morphed from someone who wanted the Giants to give Yorvit a shot to someone who is embittered by the way he handled getting the rug yanked out from under him.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Teagarden is better than Torrealba?
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I'm not sure
but he’s certainly younger and cheaper.
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Even Torrealba is just "meh" in my opinion
I think people are just suffering from the “catcher is always greener” syndrome.
Basically, the difference between what we have and Torrealba is deckchairs.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not in love with Yorvit
although I still wish they had just kept him.
But calling .250/.350/.380 with ML quality defense the same as .211/.305/.324 with terrible defense the same thing is crazy.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always assumed Sabean didn’t like something about Yorvit when he was on the team before, so I’m not surprised that he’s not trying too hard to pick him up now.
hah
that would really make me a lot madder than cheapskating their way to Whiteside every day.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean, Yorvit had outhit Matheny by a bunch in the years before Sabean gave Matheny that big contract. I know Matheny was supposed to have magic pitcher-handling skills, but Yorvit looked like a pretty good catcher to me.
I'm old. My memory must be going
But I seem to remember Yorvit as someone who had bad mechanics behind the plate. He used to try to backhand pitches in the dirt instead of moving his body. Also, he was a bit of a whiner.
I’m not sure exactly why I am straw-hatting this when there are numbers available to say one way or the other. It’s just that I guess I don’t remember Yorvit as fondly as everyone else here.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think Giants Brass shared your opinion, so you may be right. He went on to have a decent career, though.
I remember
watching him in the playoffs twice.
I think I remembered him more fondly after they signed Bengie.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
If the team had decided back in 2003 that Torrealba could make it as a starting catcher, we might have avoided the Pierzynski trade AND the Matheny signing AND the Molina years.
this is not
lowering my RAGEFACTOR RUN BONDSLEGEND.EXE GRRARARRGGH!!!
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
me too
and at the time he was the first position player to have come out of their system in forever.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
You guys are all wrong about this. AJ came before Matheny. We had Torrealba, and we traded for AJ.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Actually, I guess this means that we can all be right, as I guess Torrealba was blocked by both of them?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Right. At the time of the AJ trade, Yorvit was a 25-year-old pre-arb player with a career line of .271/.332/.400.
There was no way to know AJ would be such a disaster, but still, a lot of teams would have handed the job to Torrealba at that point.
and
Guillermo Rodriguez was waiting in the wings!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
But didn’t Torrealba leave after Methany signed? IIRC he was first blocked by Santiago, then AJ, then the Giants signed Methany and he left.
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nope
He was on the team in 2005 and traded midseason.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
BULLSHIT
Ok I believe you.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I think it's more than that.
I’m reckoning it might be one game recovered (of the 3 that losing Posey likely represents).
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#3 right-handed reliever?
I know you said “at best”, but how do you put him ahead of Wilson, Romo and Ram Ram?
The thong is, it happened.
Man, those are really cherry-picky stats you’ve got there for Kroon.
As wcw keeps pointing out, Casilla’s velocity is way down, so he may not be the pitcher he was last year.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
sorry…I don’t have access to advance stats to MiLB players.
That may be true re Casilla but he is coming off off of an injury. I pretty much trust Sabean/Tidrow/Rags when it comes to evaluating pitchers.
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=kroon-001mar
So many K’s.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yeah but also hits/walks and homers
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The homers are fine, and the hits are above his career level, so they could be a fluke. The walks are the reason he isn’t Mariano Rivera, but that doesn’t make him bad.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
And it’s not like Kroon is going to work in high leverage situations. If he replaces Casilla’s role, I like that.
Ask me about my blog.
yay for xanathon!
It’s really not that complicated, and Kroon might have upside too.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
No. Just not lighting it up.
I’m just saying that there is serious player-crush on Kroon here but if he was anyone else, it would not really be much of a discussion.
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missing the point
I don’t think it would be Kroon at all. At least not right away. Zito is due back fairly soon and if there isn’t a bullpen injury before that time then someone like Casilla or Mota is going to be gone for nothing. Flipping one of them for a competent catcher now just seems like a no-brainer.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
but
it might require taking some bottles to the recycling center, so we should forget it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Kroon would be an excellent reliever in the majors right now. But he’s pretty similar to Casilla (throws hard, high walk-rates), and he if he’s used like Casilla (lowest leverage reliever) then there really isn’t a good reason not to trade Casilla for Yorvit.
Add in the injury stuff, diminished velocity, and K-rate for Casilla and it seems like a slam dunk.
Ask me about my blog.
I’d much much much rather trade Casilla than a decent prospect.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
Adequate middle relievers are almost completely fungible. They should be the first thing you trade, always.
HAHAHA
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
YANKEES ARE WORTH MOAR!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
NO
NO. NO. NO.
Cervelli threw 2 balls into CF tonight. No.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I swear, if someone gives the Yankees a Yankee-friendly trade at the deadline I will shit bricks of anger.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
trading anyone of value
for Cervelli would be pretty comical.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope everyone in Vancouver is okay.
That being sad
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
WORLD CHAMPIONS
by Tim LinCyYoung on Jun 16, 2011 12:39 AM PDT reply actions
My back's killing me.
Gotta leave this chair. Night all.
Sweep, sweep!
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OT: Travel
I’m looking into a trip to Hong Kong. Does anyone know what airlines usually provide the best offers?
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
I travel to Hong Kong almost every year. I live in Australia and I usually fly Cathay Pacific. Highly recommend them.
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
WORLD CHAMPIONS
by Tim LinCyYoung on Jun 16, 2011 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
So, Game of Thrones...
I really hate the girl that plays Sansa. Also, the character. I was hopeful at first because she looks like Jessica from True Blood, who is awesome. Alas, it was not meant to be.
Nate Schierholtz wasn't born, he was built.
go on westeros.org and we can engage in heated debate. I like the character (or her whole story, anyway, in the books and the actress they picked for her.
I always
hated Sansa too, so I’m glad they cast it appropriately.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes. She is portraying the character as written.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Not sure if this has been posted
But LOL Rectum Face
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV9QDp-ZL_s
doan worry, poplo loe he team, he wan get berry good for body to play the beisbol
WORLD CHAMPIONS
OT: I'd kiss her ......
"I think I was the best baseball player I ever saw." -- Willie Mays
2010 = Best .... Year .... Ever.
all tattoos are
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
This is calbearjd level of wrongness.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m afraid I have to adopt a variation on your hipster stance here.
I find large tattoos on women unattractive, but I look down upon others who do the same.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
what about large women?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
"Gross tattoos" wastes a word.
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hottay
the tats are hot, at least on a temporary basis
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
use a full body condom
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t take her home to meet my mother, but I’d definitely take her home.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Be sure to fumigate afterwards.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I love that tats = dirty whore
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I love that
no one knows who Baseball Annie is.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, the players probably don’t know her name either.
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hahaha
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
So, it's just safer to assume they're all one?
Fantastic.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
No
Being willing to kiss and do who-knows-what with someone she’s never met makes her one.
Her sign should say “Let’s go out on a few dates so we can get to know each other as people, maybe even find true love together, before having carnal relations!”
The thong is, it happened.
This confused me
I guess the vernon wells trade put them over the top with the extremely intellectual folks at ESPN the magazine. Also I saw a article on SB nation earlier and its amazing how insecure the giants success makes rob neyer feel. Someday he’ll learn that he should just stop talking but whatever makes him feel better.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
Rob Neyer made some pretty fair points in his article. Teams that are outscored don’t have track records of success.
Agreed
I just find it hilarious how rob neyer has been on a rampage to debunk the giants success since before last years playoffs started. I don’t know if you read any of his hilarious write ups during the playoffs but he picked against us every round emphatically. After his “expert” predictions were wrong he wouldn’t stop there with his anti-giants fetish and would write lengthy articles using the word “luck” 5000 times and how he was right but the results were flawed. He’s not a bad writer but I figure he would have given up on all the giants hate for now but his train keeps on chugging as our success makes his skin burn.
"The criticism was so brutal that Sabean was forced to declare, at a press conference, "I am not an idiot." Thus, the pattern of Sabean's relationship to his critics was established."
I can chime in here ...
He likes the Giants. They’re sort of his NL team. He doesn’t have an anti-Giants fetish, unless that’s code for a little-persons fetish, in which case that’s absolutely true.
by Grant Brisbee on Jun 16, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I think there’s a tendency among the better class of sportswriters to be professionally harsher on the teams they like, lest they be accused of favoritism. There’s no winning, of course.
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 16, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
oh, also,
BREAKING NEWS: SBN EMPLOYEE LINKS NEYER TO MIDGET PORN RING
by Lies and Perfidy on Jun 16, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
It wouldn't surpise me if he got sick of
“suck it Neyer! How are those predictions looking now?” comments too
The thong is, it happened.
I didn’t really find much in the way of points in his article. He just said that the Giants had a negative run differential, and he didn’t go any further than that. I was kind of disappointed.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Interesting ranking method
Seems to indicate Angels fans are easily pleased.
Pease was never an option.
The magazine analyzed a team’s efficiency in spending fan money compared to its performance on the field
Okay. So why are they first?
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It's amazing how insecure Giants fans are
That they keep finding bias where it doesn’t exist.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Bias, the final frontier.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I know this was discussed above
According to my sources, the Giants asked about Yorvit Torrealba, not Taylor Teagarden. But Texas wanted Santiago Casilla, and offered no relief on the $3.25 million Torrealba would make next season.
BUT WTF?!
The same guy who tossed 6.5 million at Miguel Tejada is concerned over 3.25 million next year!!!!!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
well
It’s not like it’s 3.25 cents. They have so much dead weight on this team: Tejada, Rowand, Zito, Sanchez.
Plus, also think about the fact they have to make more upgrades over the next month, which means more payroll. We all knew the Giants were tapped out when the season began, and they still have to upgrade at 2B and SS. I’m sure they don’t want to blow their reserves on a backup catcher like Torrealba.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions
no they don't
Frodonot can be fine at 2B, even if Hall isn’t.
Crawford can field well, even if he can’t hit. Put him batting 8th, have the P bunt him to second if he gets on, and you’re good to go.
Besides, Casilla wouldn’t be a part of a trade for a real SS anyway.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions
See, I just don’t think that’s much of an solution considering the rest of the lineup. You’re going to roll into the playoffs (knock knock) with Torry, Grant, and Crawford at the bottom of the lineup?
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions
OK, leaving aside who and how much will be paid for hypothetical 2B, Casilla is not bringing Reyes from the Mets, and if he is, Ramirez or Affeldt or whoever can be thrown in.
What 2B is going to be an upgrade over Frodonot’s bat, especially if Hall hits just a bit?
C is the major, black, unfillable hole that needs to be filled immediately. If they can do it with Casilla and some of that nice money we all stuff in their pockets, they need to do it.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Another consideration
We have to jettison somebody, most likely a reliver, when Zito gets back.
So why not actually get something in return.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
can’t we just jettison Zito?
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
NO THAT WOULD COST $3.25M in 2012!!!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry I probably mistyped
I’m in favor of acquiring Torry, even for next season because I’d like to have a backup catcher that doesn’t completely suck. I also see Casilla and Kroon as fairly similar relievers with control problems, so that’s a wash for me.
Where I disagree is being complacent with Fontenot and Crawford in the infield. If we go with Fontenot, so long as there is an upgrade at either SS or the outfield (Belt please).
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah I won't fight that fight
I think Frodonot is fine, if and when he comes back (and no updates for a few days there). It’s probably hard to upgrade a lot there without spending a lot. And if they’re going to do that maybe SS is the place to do it. But someone else for the middle IF would be nice either way.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
You are under-rating Hall.
Of course we cannot be sure Hall will perform up to his career level, much less anything over it, but if he is just average (for him), he is an adequate second baseman, and Fontenot is an adequate shortstop. If Crawford can hit .250, swell, but I think that as it rolls on we are looking at LeMaster territory there.
If the players we have (including a returned Fontenot and Belt) bat—just from here on out, forget the start of the season—as their careers indicate they can, then catcher is the only place where a material upgrade might be wanted or (more to the point) available. Not grabbing Torrealba with both hands the instant his name was mentioned in the same sentence as Casilla is grotesque malfeasance in office.
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I don't understand your gripe
Tejada’s deal was for one year and for a glaring need. $6 million was the market for someone like Tejada and he was coming off of a pretty decent 1/3 season with SD.
Once Buster comes back, Yorvit would be unnecessary.
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How about if his rehab isn’t complete by Opening Day? He’s 10 weeks from his next round of surgery.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Then
you have time to sign a catcher in the offseason when the team has more leverage.
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except
you might not know he’s having trouble until March, in which case there’s no leverage at all. Which never helps them anyway (see Tejada, again).
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
So you are going to take on a $3+ million contract just in case?
I’m pretty sure you can trade or sign Torrealba next preseason and give up way less.
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yes
And while you are running out Whitey every day, another year of invaluable pitching contracts are burned up.
Or are you arguing about whether he should stay on the roster next year? I think he should, but that’s the kind of argument to have in September. As the Giants can plainly see, and should have learned last year, moving an ML quality C is not a problem.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
If you can trade Torrealba next preseason, then there’s no reason to be afraid of taking on his contract, is there?
I think he meant ‘trade for’ Torrealba.
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
In a word, YES.
By today’s standards, that’s chicken feed. If Posey is back OK by Opening Day, and Pablo is able to catch a couple of days a week, believe me, there would be teams willing to take Torrealba at that time for nothing but his remaining salary.
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Fire alarm?
Try vacuuming the sensor or using some canned air to clean it off, mine go crazy when they get too dusty/dirty.
by paboperfecto on Jun 16, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
In college we ended up putting every alarm in the house in the kitchen cubboard (LOL no dishes or food) covered in two comforters. Even when we replaced the batteries they continued to chirp every so often.
Thinking back now it may not have been the safest thing to do.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
this is why
they’re hard-wired into the house nowadays.
Hopefully our resident firefighter will be along for this.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions
you don’t need me to tell you guys that it’s purely common sense- don’t fuck with your fire alarms. so what, they chirp? removing them because of a minor annoyance is the difference between life or death, plain and simple.
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by giant4life83 on Jun 16, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
i have taken out/replaced the batteries on each alarm in this apartment. one of them is still chirping. i think it’s the one in the hall but when i stand underneath it the chirp is behind me, but the one in the living room … IS IT THE ONE IN THE BEDROOM? is there one in the bedroom? i am not up this early. oh what a beautiful sunrise, the light is all rosy from the east.
Pease was never an option.
did you use
old batteries?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Should be ok then… I dunno.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
OK I THINK I FIGURED OUT WHICH IT IS
THere is one in my bedroom i keep forgetting about and it has an old battery. I took it out around 5 minutes ago. Waiting another 5 minutes to see if the chirp returns.
3 alarms, 2-pack battery
Pease was never an option.
/chirps
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by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
i think it depends on if you have a license already.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
only if you try to get one
in a store.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not a citizen yet
I can’t break the laws like natural born Americans can. uh
Pease was never an option.
it's entirely possible
there are illegal gun vendors ready to help with that problem too!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Matt Cain’s due to make 15M next year
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
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by jctGamer on Jun 16, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's a really funny episode of Modern Family about this issue
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PORCH!
I had trouble sleeping last night, so things are a little blurry at the moment.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I went home from work early yesterday
I wasn’t feeling particularly well.
I am glad the Giants took this series and I am glad Hall had a good game last night. Still not on his bandwagon though.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Hell si.
Love in the middle of a firefight.
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"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Jun 16, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
That is a cool picture. But who wears a skirt to a riot?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
hahaha
Go Bears!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
SportsNation poll
Which of the four reigning major sports champions is the best? Bruins, Giants, Mavericks, Packers.
Mavericks or Packers, right?
Pease was never an option.
Hey! You’re up early today. But I can’t play Emaciated Redneck with you right now. I ’m at work. :^(
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Are those the NY Giants or the SF giants? I always get those two mixed up.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Best at what?
If it’s baseball, I think we win.
If it’s, say, best in relation to their league… I guess I’d go Mavericks?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
That would be Packers.
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
So...
Just watched “The Relay.” Not that impressive. Kelly Johnson should have been safe, if he had any type of gameryness in him. Should have plowed over whiteside. or at least shot him in the neck. I mean COME ON, thats the potential tying run there!
Also. What is our official stance on BWeezy’s beard? I mean obviously we love it. But at some point, its got to go right? Has it evolved into this giant thing that he cant get rid of now?
by projectmayhem713 on Jun 16, 2011 7:39 AM PDT reply actions
I'm on record as
Meh
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Whatever
It is his face. He can do what he wants.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s true. Which is why I know he won’t care that I’m on the record as hating it. But I would try to find something nice to say about it if I met him. Civility!
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
“How…lustrous it is! Heh. Well, I”m going to go freshen my drink. Matt! Matty, baby! How’s the missus?"
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
How ludicrous it is.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Jun 16, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
But I would try to find something nice to say about it if I met him. Civility!
That is just your southern charm making an appearance. Would you say “Bless your heart” ?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps, and then touch his arm lightly. That’s a Southern way of showing camaraderie, saying, “Can you believe this?”
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Funny, I always assumed that was the Southern version of the mafioso’s kiss of death. I love you, man, but now I gotta wack you.
Not when I’ve seen it used. And I deploy it on a regular basis.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
HELLO!
/shouted from across comfortable distance
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
WHY, THIS CERTAINLY IS PLEASANT!
I’LL SEND SOME HOT TEA OVER THE PULLEY SYSTEM HERE.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
I can sympathize with that, especially with strangers. But once I get to know someone, I often use a simple touch to emphasize a point.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
You know what’s funny, though? I get self-conscious about some contact with people because I don’t want to assume they’re comfortable with it. So I wait for them to give some indication as to their level of tolerance for it.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Well, to be serious for a second
I crave affection, but only from people I want it from.
/do they talk like this on az snakepit
Pease was never an option.
/chestbump
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
/arm punch
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
/jump into each others’ shoulder thing
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The official stance is “Every girl is crazy ’bout a sharp dressed man”
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Video game OT: LA Noire-Mild Spoiler
Any disappointed with the story for the game?
The patrol and traffic assignments were pretty good but the homicide/vice/arson assignment were pretty repetitive and the overall story was bland.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I don’t know. I don’t have time to play video games, I just watch the walkthroughs on YT. I like the story more than the gameplay in 99 percent of the games anyways.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
I’ve more of a fan of games like Starcraft and Diablo and not so much the first/third person shooting games like LA Noire.
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
They give me motion sickness
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Jun 16, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
God I loved Starcraft
I played the hell out of that game in college even though it was nearly 10 years old by then.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Man DBag fans hate us.
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on Jun 16, 2011 8:08 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
See you guys in a bit
Have to go to Compton
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
The new Girl With the Dragon Tattoo trailer is a lesson in the modern attention span. Holy cow.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
I haven't read or seen any of em
are they any good?
I really enjoyed the Swedish version of the book. However, I have never read the book. The American version looks like a more over-the-top (and not in an awesome Sly Stallone kind of way) translation. However, who knows?
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Jun 16, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I tried to watch the Swedish movie, got pissed, stopped, went to wikipedia, looked up plot summaries for the books, got pissed, and decided not to involve myself with the series anymore.
I watched the trailer only to see how American they made it.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Why did you get pissed?
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Jun 16, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Rape claptrap.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
huh?
It seems pretty harmless in the mass-market wish-fulfillment sweepstakes. C’mon.. a tattoo? Sheesh.
Her revenge for being coerced into oral sex is to get herself raped. That’s waaaay beyond my pale.
She takes revenge by getting herself raped. That’s her revenge. 0_0
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
my type of woman!
Back on the market.
by positiveuphemism on Jun 16, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
In the wish-fulfillment retribution genre — which sells a lot of books and movie tickets to the tagline, this time it’s personal — that one barely even crosses the Oder, much less makes it all the way to the Pale of Settlement.
It’s just outside my realm. I recognize that it doesn’t represent the same problem for others.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I never got farther than Two Towers.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
As the books go, anyway.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
i skipped a lot of the frodo/sam/gollum B/D OT3 to get to Pippin in Gondor.
Pease was never an option.
And I’m sure if we look hard enough we can find some rather obvious hypocrisy on my bookshelf or in my DVD collection. It seems a tiring affair, though. There’s little accounting for why one thing sets one off while another similar thing fails to.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s a fairly literal interpretation.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s not accurate at all.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jun 16, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s very clearly step one of a five-step revenge.exe process.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
She didn’t plan on being raped. She anticipates being coerced into oral sex again, by her guardian (Controls her finances) so she was going to record it for blackmail.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jun 16, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not going to belabor why I find that to be a rather thin distinction.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I guess so. Its not a bad book or movie. But the American version is going to horrible.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jun 16, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
The trailer was a royal mess.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW the rape scene has very little to do with the series other than the beging (when it happens) and at the end.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jun 16, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no objection to the lurid scenario (it’s fiction! lurid is good!), but I did get the sense that Larsson enjoyed his revenge-rape scenario to a rather creepy degree.
Combine that with the bludgeoning shrillness of his attack on rape and trafficking, the hagiographic self-portrait of the crusading journalist, and the leadenness of his writing, and I’m quite happy to never crack open one of Larsson’s books again.
I think she thought it was just going to be oral sex again. She wasn’t planning on being handcuffed to a bed.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Jun 16, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL GRANT
Houston Astros Issue Emergency Bulletin
By Grant Brisbee – Editor
Follow @sbnbaseball on Twitter, and Like Baseball Nation on Facebook.
Jun 16, 2011 – Following a Houston Astros game at Minute Maid Park on June 25, former Creed front-man Scott Stapp will perform live in concert.
Federal agencies will provide relief to those unable to leave the area, but they will certainly be overtaxed.
Pease was never an option.
hahaha
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
AJ opines on why Gavin Floyd keeps getting SB'd
“We all know where we stand with the running game when Gavin is out there,’’ Pierzynski said. "Everyone knows where we stand, and it’s just part of the game.’’
The White Sox have a 9% throw-out rate this year.
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Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
by rotorueter on Jun 16, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
I thought he was talking about a different Gavin at first (because I skipped the sl). It was very confusing.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Jun 16, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Rossdale
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
McLeod!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy moly
I never knew that FIST PUMP song was done by Ashkon. The Giants might as well hire him full-time
The stupid one they play at the ballpark?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Yep, it’s an Ashkon song. “fist pump pump and I jump jump jump”
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s so talented…
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Jun 16, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Combining “pump” with “jump” is musical GENIOUS! I’m a motherfucking lyrical genius!
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
A wordsmith of the highest order.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Jun 16, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s recommended to me because I bought “Here Comes The Freak” by the Freaking Freaks.
Pease was never an option.
LOL
I love when McCarver called that song “awful” right before Fox cut to a commercial during the NLCS
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll be honest with you, I love his music. I do. I'm an Ashkon fan.
I celebrate his whole catalogue.
"We didn’t win our independence from the British to watch Aaron Rowand hit this bad"
"There is not seeing the ball well, and then there is that." - David B. Flemming describing an Aaron Rowand AB.
by 1ManWolfPack on Jun 16, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think thats right. Pretty sure its not him.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
yea
its the other two guys in this video with Romo and Keenan Cahill.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
Sergio sure likes to grab his junk.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jun 16, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
You sure?
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/ashkon
Go to his April 1st mixtape in the middle of the page
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Jun 16, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
You just described every song they play at the park.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jun 16, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
HE’S OPRAHS PERSONAL DOCTOR…
/looks at picture of Oprah
Well, she does not look healthy at all does she?
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jun 16, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
HAPPY 40th BDAY TO TUPAC!
Jesus I’m getting old
Rowajaside is punishable...
by 15-20 in most jurisdictions but in the City of San Francisco it is just a misdemeanor
Staunch Defender of Cake
Cake for breakfast again today!!
It’s my reward for lying in metal tubes all day yesterday while invisible rays scanned my corpus slowly and deeply.
After the cake, the brandy. Then the day can begin.
Anyone else going to the Twins games on Wed/Thurs of next week? They’ll be my first games in about two years.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jun 16, 2011 9:28 AM PDT reply actions
enjoy the game!
But not like Jeff Kent meant.
And congrats on making it through the claustrophobiatron.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Full body PET scans are not fun. And you get to be overtly radioactive for hours afterward.
Nurse: “You should just go straight home now, and stay away from your kids until the Fluorine decays.”
Me: WTF?
I had the full PET as well as the MRI, one after the other.
I glow. More than usual, I mean.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jun 16, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
The half life of FDG is about 90 minutes, so if you get 12 mCu at 6 am by 9 am its only about 3 mCu. And by noon its at .75.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on Jun 16, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, ggf.
The good news: I feel fine.
He is the world's most annoying rooster.
by gallo del cielo on Jun 16, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
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