Grant Brisbee - Then and Now

it was pretty good, really, for a salad bar/sandwich place. Plus it’s sold by the pound, so you can throw a few pieces in with the salad you make.

(btw, I just love the fact that people think everyone who posts here has the same opinion on everything. I mean, have you looked at the way people argue in the comments?)

Then I’ll firmly believe. Otherwise, there’s really no good reason to think that he’s really a better option than a healthy, mustache-less Zito.

Grant’s hasn’t been the same since he started getting his opinions from Cousin Oliver.

1 – is Grant beyond criticism? Of course not. I suspect he is appreciative of criticism of his writing skills if it will help him improve.

2 – is Grant always right? No one is.

3 – is this article incredibly disrespectful? Indeed it is.

I’m sure many of you are aware of this, but to those that aren’t: Grant has fostered what is likely the biggest/greatest Giants fan collectives to date. This is a huge community that is growing by leaps and bounds. This wouldn’t be happening if it weren’t for Grant. There were some loose collectives before McC but nothing of this skope. This place is very very special and we owe a huge debt of gratitude to Grant.

Thank you Grant for your passion. Thank you for your prolific writing. Thank you for your humor. Thank you for McCovey Chronicles.

The singular of “Grizzlies” is “Grizzly.”

/Screen name grammar police

Hey, I have an opening for a loony internet stalker – if your interested, that is. It looks like you have what it takes!

Still living up to your name, then.

1. Barry Zito has been an above-average fifth starter for the last couple years. This does not mean he is a good pitcher, just that if you had to pick a fifth starter out of the pitchers currently being used in that role, Zito would be nearer the top than the bottom. No one is suggesting Zito get more starts than he needs to, only that a lot of teams use worse pitchers in his role. This is an opinion formed on the basis of several years of data, which makes it fairly reliable, although it’s subject to change – especially if he keeps throwing 83 MPH fastballs.

2. Ryan Vogelsong was an unwanted commodity for several years. No one thought he was worth a roster spot. There is good reason for this: most of his professional experience. Right now, he’s pitching much better than most expected, at least partially due to a .193 BABIP. His other peripheral stats, however, suggest this level of performance isn’t unreasonable (3.57 FIP/3.64 xFIP). Even if you thought he’d be good (and after he came out of the bullpen that one time and flashing a 90 MPH fastball and decent offspeed stuff with decent control, I did), he’s probably doing better than how you thought. There is good reason for this, and therefore:

3. Ryan Vogelsong is not necessarily the best fifth starter option going forward. Personally, until Zito gets his “fastball” back, I would go with Vogelsong, considering he’s good when he has control and Zito isn’t ever good with an 83 MPH FB. But we have to realize that Vogelsong hasn’t thrown a lot yet. Ryan Sadowski threw a couple shutouts after being a mediocre AAA pitcher, and then went back to being a mediocre AAA pitcher. Now he’s in Asia.

4. There’s nothing wrong with riding a hot streak, but you have to know when it’s a hot streak and when it’s a legitimate improvement. Vogelsong’s FIP suggests that perhaps he really is a good pitcher, and it’ll take a couple consecutive meltdowns for me to want Zito back, but that’s a) not unlikely and b) not a lot. Lincecum, by contrast, would need a couple consecutive season-long meltdowns to erase the goodwill he’s built up. Vogelsong needs to be on a much shorter leash. Don’t act like all of a sudden he’s some great pitcher; we haven’t seen enough of him to make that judgment yet. Hell, Zito looked great in the beginning of last year before going back to being Zito.

Bottom line, Vogelsong’s looked good in a short sample and he deserves a few more starts, even if Zito comes back by then. But if all it takes is 20 great innings for you to proclaim Vogelsong better given their respective histories, there’s a very good chance I can use your logic to make you look really stupid come July.

Oh, and it says a lot about a “fan” when they use some great performances from an unlikely source to try and make some other fans look stupid instead of just enjoying the success. If Tejada turns it on, I’ll certainly be feeling a little more superior for defending the signing, but more than anything I’ll enjoy the Giants winning.

I don’t know what the rest of you are complaining about. This post totally convinced me.

As I read this post I kept thinking that their must be some kind of history in which the author got into an argument with somebody on this site about Vogelsong. Yet he hasn’t left a comment in nearly 2 months, and has (at least, according to an SBN search) never even left a comment about Vogelsong.

So Grizzlie Antagonist has written an angry post towards an unexpressed opinion over a previously undebated (by him/her) topic. Bizarre.

Just waking up in the morning gotta thank God
I don’t know but today seems kinda odd
No barking from the dogs, no smog
And momma cooked a breakfast with no hog
I got my grub on, but didn’t pig out
Finally got a call from a girl wanna dig out
Hooked it up on later as I hit the do’
Thinking will i live, another twenty-fo’
I gotta go cause I got me a drop top
And if I hit the switch, I can make the ass drop
Had to stop at a red light
Looking in my mirror not a jacker in sight
And everything is alright
I got a beep from Kim and she can fuck all night
Called up the homies and I’m askin y’all
Which park, are y’all playin basketball?
Get me on the court and I’m trouble
Last week fucked around and got a triple double
Freaking niggaz everyway like M.J.
I can’t believe, today was a good day

Drove to the pad and hit the showers
Didn’t even get no static from the cowards
Cause just yesterday them fools tried to blast me
Saw the police and they rolled right past me
No flexin, didn’t even look in a niggaz direction
as I ran the intersection
Went to $hort Dog’s house, they was watchin Yo! MTV Raps
What’s the haps on the craps
Shake em up, shake em up, shake em up, shake em
Roll em in a circle of niggaz and watch me break em
With the seven, seven-eleven, seven-eleven
Seven even back do’ lil Joe I picked up the cash flow
Then we played bones, and I’m yellin domino.
Plus nobody I know got killed in South Central L.A.
Today was a good day

Left my niggaz house paid
Picked up a girl been tryin to fuck since the twelve grade
It’s ironic, I had the brew she had the chronic
The Lakers beat the Supersonics I felt on the big fat fanny
Pulled out the jammy, and killed the punanny
And my dick runs deep so deep so deep
put her ass to sleep
Woke her up around one
she didn’t hesitate, to call Ice Cube the top gun
Drove her to the pad and I’m coasting
Took another sip of the potion hit the three-wheel motion
I was glad everything had worked out
Dropped her ass off, then I chirped out
Today was like one of those fly dreams
Didn’t even see a berry flashing those high beams
No helicopter looking for a murder
Two in the morning got the fat burger
Even saw the lights of the Goodyear Blimp
And it read Ice Cube’s a pimp
Drunk as hell but no throwing up
Half way home and my pager still blowing up
Today I didn’t even have to use my A.K.
I got to say it was a good day.

My sansamp VT bass came in the mail today. It makes my cheap gear sound less bad.

Sanity: OK, but are you completely discounting his performance against Colorado yesterday? I mean, absolutely completely discounting it? I mean, do you think it even remotely possible that Barry Zito in 2011 could pitch 6 1/3 scoreless innings against the Colorado Rockies given an infinite number of chances in a sequence of alternative universes?

On June 1, 2010, Zito pitched 7 IP, giving up 1 earned run. The run came in the top of the 7th inning, when Clint Barmes hit a sac fly with one out.

So, uh, in fact, he pitched 6 1/3 scoreless innings against the Rockies not in an infinite number of chances in a sequence of alternate universes, but in his third most recent start against the Colorado Rockies.

So yeah. I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s probably theoretically possible.

And it’s whatever this douchebag’s name is (too lazy and indifferent to scroll up).

It made me laugh to write this, but I’m pretty sure I’m the only person amused by mentioning Chris Sabo and HyperCard.

Must be an off day.

the fuck is going on?

So here’s a dancing llama with a banana on it’s back.

If you use the break properly we don’t have to suffer through youre ramblings to get to the next topic !!!!!!

Give us a teaser and trick us in to reading the article.

My favorite part is how sanity keeps trying to speak, but Grant won’t let him get a word in edgewise. Grant: Stubbornly insane.

You used the term “fingering rosary”

I really hate that term because it’s one of those things that sounds dirty but isn’t. I feel about it the say way some people feel about hearing the word “moist”

Just sayin’…

Only in the McCovey Chronicles does anyone believe that Barry Zito is a “good” pitcher.

Onlly in the McCovey Chronicles does anyone use the terms “Barry Zito” and “above average” in the same breath.

Only in the McCovey Chronicles does anyone hold the terms “Barry Zito” and “Matt Williams” in one’s mind with the same thought — as if to suggest that the one has produced as much in a Giants uniform as has the other.

Not in the real world does anyone believe these things. Not in the real world does anyone use the phrases “Barry Zito” and “above average” in the same sentence. Not in the real world does anyone try to hold such disparate concepts as “Barry Zito” and “Matt Williams” in one’s mind at the same time — as if the two of them really played baseball for the Giants on the same level as each other.

Only in the McCovey Chronicles. Only in the Cave.

Though a TRUE Giants fan would have rooted for that V Creature to have pitched ineffectively in order to leave a clear pathway for (genuflects) the eventual return of Barry Zito.

I was waiting for the “YOU ROOT AGAINST THE GIANTS/ YOU HATE THE GIANTS” gag. I was not disappointed.

However, I’ll sum it up for people anyway:

- Grant thought 2 years ago that Renterria was terrible and shouldn’t be playing over obviously better, younger and healthier players

- Grant thinks now that Zito is something approximating a league average pitcher and should keep his spot over a pitcher with a very pedestrian 10+ year minor league career and 20 successful big league innings

- I think salary considerations is the underlying connection between these two thoughts which therefore makes Grant a hypocrite

- I will therefore mock one of the best blog writers on earth who is also a fan of my team in an attempt to piss him off so he won’t write what I consider content egregiously offensive to my delicate and warped sensibilities

FUCK YEAH

But none this stupid. And I like Ryan Vogelsong.

Man, I didn’t miss them.

I demand my before/after pictures of Grant during (1) childhood, (2) awkward puberty years (i.e., Howie/failbeard years) and (3) adulthood (i.e., Fontenot years)

I just don’t understand why/how people come in to just openly bash Grant on a consistent basis as if it is going to make a difference in them being seen/read/noted. I mean, if you don’t agree, state your reasons and move on. It’s as if people who disagree with Grant vehemently try “out-Grant” Grant, and it usually looks asinine and dumb on their end.

(touching mezuzah)