How angry will you be when Brandon Crawford sits for Miguel Tejada?
by Grant Brisbee on May 31, 2011 12:36 PM PDT
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I’m looking forward to Brandon Crawford’s at-bats. I’m not looking forward to Tejada’s at-bats ... at all.
That’s a quote from Mike Krukow today on KNBR. There’s a spectrum of veteran tolerance. On the left, you’ll find the great unwashed internet commentors. You know: you, the person reading this right now. You’re probably too hard on veterans and too easy on prospects. That’s just how it is. The prospect’s abilities are only limited by your imagination, while the veteran is stinking in front of you every day.
On the far right of the veteran tolerance spectrum is Bruce Bochy. For him, every veteran is just a hot streak away from breaking their slump for good. If Randy Winn gets going for the Sandy’s Crab Hut softball team this month, he could probably slide right into a Bochy lineup. There are probably some positives from this approach -- a veteran who knows his manager isn’t one for knee-jerk decisions is a veteran who probably isn’t going to panic as the struggles continues. Mostly, though, it’s just maddening to watch.
It’s hard to say exactly where Krukow is, but it’s fair to assume he’s a heckuva lot closer to Bochy on the spectrum than he is to the folks around here. If a guy has been around for a decade or two, he’s built up some veteran scrip that he can spend with old-school guys like Kruk and Bochy. So when Krukow turns (respectfully, of course) on a veteran, it’s kind of a lineup bellwether. It’s a sign that it’s not just the lunatic fringe that is clamoring for something new.
ZiPS took a look at Crawford’s 2010 in the Eastern League, and projected that he’d hit .226/.288/.341 in the majors with average defense. Tejada is hitting a ghastly .217/.241/.277, and his defense isn’t good at all compared to other shortstops around the league. So the answer seems simple: Crawford gets a bulk of the playing time at short until Pablo Sandoval gets back. If Crawford looks anything like a major league hitter, the move will make itself because it’s hard to be worse than Tejada is now.
Except Bochy. Oh, Bochy. You know that’s not how it’s going to work. Aaron Rowand lost his job last year because of veterans. If Andres Torres were 21 instead of 31, he would have stayed on the bench, I’d gather. Maybe that’s unfair speculation, but it’s an unfairness with a little supporting evidence.
So if the question is Crawford or Tejada?, Tejada or Crawford?, can Bruce Bochy make the right decision? My answer in two parts:
- No.
- It’s not going to make a big difference offensively.
Tejada is bad, and his bat is bound to a different planet’s gravity right now, but he isn’t this bad. He’s been getting unlucky, hitting some balls hard right at people. And while Crawford is a good story, he’s never hit well above A-ball. There’s a chance that he tweaked his swing to maximize his tools, and now he’s just going to explode as a major leaguer. There’s a far greater chance that he’s still a work in progress -- a glove-first guy that will take a while to even be an average hitter for his position.
The difference in defense is enough to give Crawford every chance to succeed. He should be in every lineup until Sandoval comes back. Let the league adjust to him. Let him adjust to the adjustments. See if he can hold his own.
But he’s not going to start when Pablo comes back. Just accept it. Bruce Bochy is on the case. The guy has his strengths -- finding the right time to make a veteran-to-rookie transition is not one of them. The Tejada/Crawford kerfuffle isn’t going to go the way you want, but it’s also not going to make much of a difference with wins and losses. I don’t believe in Tejada’s ability, really, but I can’t go goofy for Crawford just yet. All of my skepticism chips are riding with Ryan Vogelsong right now. With Crawford, I just have to look at what he’s done as a professional, and it’s not a body of work that suggests he can hit in the majors after skipping AAA entirely.
At the same time, I couldn’t agree with Krukow more. I don’t want to watch Tejada. I want to watch Crawford. While it isn’t likely for Crawford to hit well, it’s more fun to analyze his swing than Tejada’s. So enjoy these next couple of weeks, but when Crawford sits for Tejada, wail and moan because baseball just became a little less interesting, not because the Giants are substantially worse. There just aren’t a lot of great options.
Unless Crawford really is this much of a badass, that is. I think maybe I’ll just forget that I wrote this and expect him to be exactly that.
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I will be angry. On the other hand, I will be very angry.
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This.
Mainly because I honestly, at this point in time, expect Tejada to hit about as well as Crawford’s ZIPS projection from this point forward. I don’t have numbers to back that up. Dude just looks done to me.
Mainly, I want Crawford to play because his ceiling is higher than his ZIPS projection, and his defense is miles better than Tejada’s.
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Well-said
Players do sometimes get close to achieving a perceived ceiling. Especially young players. That possibility, however small, is so much more exciting than someone who’s on the downward slope, for whom the floor keeps getting lower.
"Bruce Wayne is the Brian Wilson of Gotham." -DrDC
For a team that has so little margin for error, maximizing that margin is what it’s all about. He’s already been worth almost an entire negative win so far. 53 games in and he’s cost a win below replacement. That’s stunning. Even if you say Crawford will only hit the same as Tejada the rest of the season, the upgrade in defense makes the move worth it.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
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by cornball on May 31, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
To clarify
It’s Tejada that has been worth almost an entire negative win.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
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I was pretty sure it was not Crawford and his slam Firday or RBI yesterday.
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on May 31, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I was pretty sure it was not Crawford and his slam Firday or RBI yesterday.
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on May 31, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I was pretty sure it was not Crawford and his slam Firday or RBI yesterday.
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on May 31, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL I can’t keep up with all these double/triple posts.
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And it’s all happening in reply to my comments. Am I a virus?
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
Well that’s just good advice.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
I guess so
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by say hey nation on May 31, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It will make me angry
But then I remind myself that Crawford probably isn’t this good. I also remember that Belt is sitting on the bench. That fact is much irritating because it’s so clear that Belt is a better hitter than Aaron Rowand, Cody Ross, Pat Burrell or Aubrey Huff.
This was actually the way I wanted to end this post.
If you want to freak out, freak out about Brandon Belt not finding at-bats on this team.
by Grant Brisbee on May 31, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
This concerns me worlds more than the impending Tejada-Crawford impasse.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
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If
Crawford is going to end up not hitting well, I hope he does it before Frodonot comes back and/or there’s a panic trade. Then Burriss can stay up to sit on the bench and play once per week, and Crawford can go back to Fresno to work on his bat.
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
If
Crawford is going to end up not hitting well, I hope he does it before Frodonot comes back and/or there’s a panic trade. Then Burriss can stay up to sit on the bench and play once per week, and Crawford can go back to Fresno to work on his bat.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
If
Crawford is going to end up not hitting well, I hope he does it before Frodonot comes back and/or there’s a panic trade. Then Burriss can stay up to sit on the bench and play once per week, and Crawford can go back to Fresno to work on his bat.
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If
Crawford is going to end up not hitting well, I hope he does it before Frodonot comes back and/or there’s a panic trade. Then Burriss can stay up to sit on the bench and play once per week and, Crawford can go back to Fresno to work on his bat.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
If
Crawford is going to end up not hitting well, I hope he does it before Frodonot comes back and/or there’s a panic trade. Then Burriss can stay up to sit on the bench and play once per week and, Crawford can go back to Fresno to work on his bat.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
hmmm
I only see my post once, did I hijack all these accounts? I blame Grant.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If
I said something different, would you all notice?
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on May 31, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If
I said something different, would you all notice?
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on May 31, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If
I said something different, would you all notice?
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
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by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
DID WE TRADE FOR JOSE REYES YET???
Come on, Sabean! Pull the trigger! The Giants 2012 lineup could be Reyes, B. Crawford, Posey, Pujols, Fontenot, Sandoval, Torres, Belt, Sanchez. And I think we have some pitching lined up!
I hope we can get Albert Pujols when he becomes a free agent.
LOL I’m sure this is chasm but Reyes and B. Crawford in the same lineup. Where exactly would they play? Both at SS and no one at 3b.
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It's Posey time!!
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Pujols?!
Are you MAD? This isn’t a dream this is real life.
Or is this a fantasy?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Why would we do that
I like Crawford and hope he works out, but in what world does it make sense to have Reyes and Brandon Crawford in the same lineup.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking about what our lineup would look like if we had drafted Stanton and traded for Reyes…
Reyes, Torres, Posey, Stanton, Sandoval, Belt, Burrell, Sanchez, P
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not really clear.
Belt has the potential to be a very good hitter, but all he’s proven thus far at the major league level is that he can take a pitch or four. Until he starts collecting hits and making solid contact – something that admittedly will not come without more opportunities – we can’t really know that he’s a better hitter, no matter how well he might project.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
It would be relatively surprising
If he went from being this polished in terms of hitting at the minor league level to being completely incapable at the major league level. Usually, when you have a hitter showing all the signs that he is, they will succeed at a level at least as high as any one of the lackluster vets he’d be replacing in our lineup.
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yep
It would be as surprising if Crawford hits. I want him in the PCL.
I was surprised at how highly Flem thinks of Crawford
Saying he’s got power, and that he’s shown improvement this year. Isn’t Fla-Giant in this line?
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Howie put it best, I think.
He passes the less-than-a-week eye test.
There’s a big fat grain of salt to carry with you there, but thus far there hasn’t been much to be critical of.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Howie put it best, I think.
He passes the less-than-a-week eye test.
There’s a big fat grain of salt to carry with you there, but thus far there hasn’t been much to be critical of.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
he showed improvements in 2010
You have mostly to ignore his Cal League ‘breakout’ — it was barely 100 AB and his BABIP was almost .500. In 2009 in the Eastern League his wRC+ was 79, in 2010 it was 99. His Ks were still not pretty, but his walk rate doubled. He has not shown evidence of power, but if he has one more stage in his development he could be a defense-first starting SS.
Much in the same way Belt’s AAA numbers this year come from a BABIP of almost .500 and striking out over 20% of PA, over 30% of AB
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
lalalalalalalala I can’t hear you!!!
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he can't hit A and AA pitchers
I’m sure Rowand and Tejada can too though.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re ridiculous.
He has almost 200 PA’s in the PCL from 2010-2011. He experienced no drop off in production from graduating from A to AA to AAA.
Now he plays 18 games in the NL and suddenly you’re saying he’s a fluke? 18 games is SSS.
That said, success at AAA does not guarantee success in the majors.
See Schierholtz, Nate, Bowker, John, Burriss, Emmanuel, etc.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
None of those guys rocketed through the minors like Belt, nor were they ever as highly regarded by the professional scouting community.
Good hitting performances in the PCL are not hard to come by. Players who dominate every level and end up being the best hitter in the minors in their first year of pro ball are rare.
It makes success at the pro level highly likely, but still not a guarantee.
You’re never going to have a 100% success rate.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
No drop off?
A+ K%: 18.5 (77 games) 2010
AA K%: 19.4 (46 games) 2010
AAA K%: 31.3% (13 games) 2010
AAA k%: 30.7% (31 games) (2011)
Not to mention his ISO is .188 this year at AAA
And when did I say he was a fluke? I’m saying his 1 full season of professional ball was mainly at single and double A and he’s showed signs of not being ready for the Majors. I think he will be a very good player, key word being WILL.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was going to say that there has been a pretty clear drop off in AAA. His K rate has gone up significantly and also his SLG in AAA has been about .100 points lower than in AA despite going from an environment that suppresses power to one that promotes it.
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I’m not saying he can’t hit A and AA pitchers
I’m sure Rowand and Tejada can too though.
You compared him as a hitter to Aaron Rowand and Miguel Tejada and by doing so, you insulted his playing ability.
Belt has done well at AAA. If you can’t see that, then you are overly fixated on his K rate in 44 games. Richmond is harder to hit in and he struck out less there. That’s a fluke, but not his overall performance in the minors.
Are you making the argument that his AAA numbers are SSS?
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
His bad numbers are SSS.
His good numbers are not SSS.
Duh!
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Belt's bat has sustained success in the minors, Crawford's doesn't
Yeah, regress Belt’s 2011 PCL (and NL for that matter), but he’s hit the ball in a way Crawford hasn’t.
the longer belt was batting in the pcl
the lower his ba was going…and the higher his k per at bat was going
btw…frandsen hit at every level too…that includes the eastern
minor league success doesnt always equate to the majors
the denominator is PA, not AB
To say nothing of trend analysis on less than 200 PA. I have argued he should be in triple A all year, in part because his K rate has gone from the mid teens to the low twenties, but you can’t take away what he’s shown: wRC+ above 190 in the Cal League, above 175 in the Eastern and around 150 in the PCL.
Frandsen? Um, no. At 22, the age at which Belt decimated both the Cal and the Eastern leagues, Frandsen was in short-season ball. The following year, at 23, Frandsen his .336/.395 in the Eastern, which a year younger Belt had dealt a .413/.623. At 24 — that’ll be next year for Belt — Frandsen’s PCL wRC+ was 112.
Minor league success, barring injury and pitchers and watching age and level, pretty much always predicts the majors.
I was encouraged to hear that he re-tooled his swing in the offseason to cut down on K’s and it seems to have added some pop. One thing that is promising is that he seems to be able to handle breaking stuff. I know that the grand slam he hit was a hanger, but in his first AB he hit a good curveball very hard, albeit right at someone.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Very True
I just get the sense that people expect Bochy to finally get fed up and bench Huff for a day, and Belt will go 6-5 with seven doubles and things will never be the same for our offense. Re-stressing that it could take a while, and that not all prospects show up and are instantly Pablo Sandoval or Buster Posey, is probably a worthwhile endeavor.
Expect production roughly equivalent to current Huff or Burrell, at least for a little while.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I’d rather watch Crawford play because I know he’ll help our run prevention unit and that’s our best bet at succeeding. On the other hand, I have to be honest: I find it highly unlikely that Brandon Crawford will be as productive a major leaguer as Neifi Perez.
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MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Eactly
If Tejada is not a plus glove or bat, at least get a damn plus glove in there.
Also I like how Crawford hits left but throws right. Weird how many backwards throw\hit guys we have. Ross, Fontenot, Shierholtz, Crawford, Bumgarner, Lincecum.
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on May 31, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Crawford’s dad made him hit left handed starting from a real young age to give him an advantage in baseball.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Ross and Bumgarner are the only ones that are really backwards. There are plenty of guys out there that throw right but bat left.
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I have a friend who throws right but bats left. We asked him why, and he had no answer except that he had always been like that. One day he finally agreed to try hitting right-handed in practice, and it turned out he was just as good from the right side as from the left.
I wish that would happen to Brandon Crawford.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I have a friend who throws right but bats left. We asked him why, and he had no answer except that he had always been like that. One day he finally agreed to try hitting right-handed in practice, and it turned out he was just as good from the right side as from the left.
I wish that would happen to Brandon Crawford.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
That’s pretty neat.
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Even the second time!
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Isn’t it crazy how El Person has two friends that are awesome, if accidentally discovered, switch-hitters? it blew my mind too.
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by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
My father did
But mostly because his right eye saw the ball better.
Even though it is more common for throw R hit L, it still seems like a lot of them on one team.
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on May 31, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Timmeh, too. Though he’s a RHP, LHB
I always worry that a curve will get away from a pitcher, and Timmeh or Bummy will get hit on the shoulder.
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I will stand outside Bruce Bochy's house, holding a radio above my head
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I'd probably create a hole in my walls.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
TWSS
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on May 31, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
You must be a homeowner.
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by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I live in one of my good friend's houses.
She’d understand.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
DID WE TRADE FOR JOSE REYES YET???
Come on, Sabean! Pull the trigger! The Giants 2012 lineup could be Reyes, B. Crawford, Posey, Pujols, Fontenot, Sandoval, Torres, Belt, Sanchez. And I think we have some pitching lined up!
I hope we can get Albert Pujols when he becomes a free agent.
Uh. I see two OFers and six infielders there.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Reyes and Crawford both play SS, Pablo is at 3B, Fontenot and Sanchez both cover 2B, Pujols at 1B, Belt in Left Center, Torres in Right Center. that should work right?
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It's Posey time!!
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We’re allowed nine fielders now? Cause Posey’s in there too.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
Posey will play C, each position player except Posey will come in to face a batter.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
Well then. I like this plan. wilriv always wanted Crawford to toe the rubber.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
Well then. I like this plan. wilriv always wanted Crawford to toe the rubber.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
Fake double posting?
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
If we didn’t extend Sanchez, we could have easily moved Reyes to 2B.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
OT: Jim Bowden on Baseball Today podcast
“if Buster Posey was mechanically sound when he made the play at the plate, he wouldn’t have been hurt. We don’t need a rule change”
Jim Bowden is an idiot.
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by cornball on May 31, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Rec’d once but only because I can’t rec this infinity.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He sounded extremely straw hat that whole podcast.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
That is his background. He was never a true scout, but his background is on the scouting side of things. His blog is pretty bad.
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Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
I think the sentence “Longoria should leave off because he left 4 men on base yesterday” argument got to me.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
/facepalm
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It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
Sully should never have scooped up those geese in his plane’s engines!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This is brilliant.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
How could you do this and speak to people with a straight face.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
Living outside of DC
I know that he was only on that thing because he just donated a kidney to a relative and was recooperating.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
to be fair, quite a few people said that his positioning was bad, and he shouldn’t have been on his knees because if he does get knocked back, he rolls over his legs.
the way he played the short-hop in NLCS Game 4 to get Ruiz at the plate is ideally how you want it done. But I don’t blame Buster for Cousins err in judgement.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
“Cousins err in judgement?”
I agree that Buster could have been better set up for the play. I saw no error in judgement from Cousins
unnecessary collision, in my opinion, but I’m past that now. Nothing can change what happened.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Too entertaining to be locked up behind the scenes.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
They needed a new Steve Phillips.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
those interns are not going to sexually harrass themselves!
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
That’s why they wouldn’t let me be an intern. I create my own hostile work environment.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
say it again
I dare you
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
That’s why they wouldn’t let me be an intern. I create my own hostile work environment.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
how dare you
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
It gets kind of awkward.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
Don’t you only get in trouble if you report yourself?
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It usually involves a night of heavy drinking and a teary-eyed conversation with a close friend.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
To be fair, Posey was not mechanically sound. It doesn’t necessarily follow that ‘we don’t need a rule change’, but Busters footwork was not good.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
-Adopted Giant: Dan Runzler
Yeah, I don’t necessarily disagree with the first part of his statement. It’s the second part of that sentence, where he lays the blame completely on Buster. Sure, he wasn’t mechanically sound, but there wasn’t much reason for the collision to happen in the first place. That’s why a rule change should happen because Buster was completely defenseless on that play and there was no reason for a collision in the first place.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
To add to your point cornball
It would make sense that when you’re standing in front of home, your first priority would be to get/stop the ball, not making sure that you’re mechanically sound. Being mechanically sound to prevent yourself from being injured by a collision would probably only enter your mind when you think there might be a collision.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the most puzzling aspects of the human experience is the apparently overwhelming desire to rationalize devastating events so the blame falls only on the person most directly affected. If it’s Buster’s fault, well, that’s easy to fit in your head. But if it’s the rule, well that spreads things out across years of history and generations of people, and maybe it takes a little more effort to fit all that in for a lot of people.
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by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
The whole notion is absurd. Cousins effectively shot himself out of a cannon at Buster. Saying that Buster’s mechanics are to blame is like saying that the old lady who was run over by the speeding taxi driver who was texting his pimp was at fault because her gait sucked.
And it was the institution that taught him to do it. However you care to illustrate what he did, it’s common practice in the sport. To focus on Cousins is to leave the door open for such behavior to happen again.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
That’s why I blame the rule. I dont’ blame Cousins. To make my analogy sound you would have to say that drunk driving and texting and speeding is legal.
I have to think Kruk got the okay to express this opinion beforehand
I think there are some interesting behind the scenes debates going on right now regarding Tehaha.
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 31, 2011 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This was my impression, too.
He’s been such a homer, making excuses for every Tejada gaff, and today he just let loose. I’m holding out hope we continue to see Crawford after Panda returns.
Get well soon, Buster.
I dunno
this kind of conspiracy theory implies that there’s a master plan. Other than, you know, the one to keep Brandon Belt as bat boy.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
No it does not.
It only implies there is a master. And certainly there is. I am sure Krukow doesn’t want to get Krueger’d
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
Kruk got a WS ring. Way more important than Kreuger.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
Definitely
But I am sure he is aware of the need to dissemeinate the company line and follows that direction.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
He has no need to toe the company line. He is basically untouchable, like the rest of the broadcast Big 4.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
They are broadcasters and not PR flacks. Getting rid of Kruk, Kuip or Jon Miller would be the worst PR possible – they are the faces of the franchise, beloved by the fans and basically have jobs for as long as they desire.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure!
You’ll have to brush up on your favorite places to eat & drink in Petaluma to ingratiate yourself to her followers though.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You have my vote!
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It puts assets in the bank.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
KNBR is Giants flagship. I don’t know what “flagship” means exactly in terms of how money flows back and forth from the organizations based on ad sales and whatever else, but I do know that Kruk and Kuip boycotted KNBR for about a week after the Kreuger comments. That was the Giants playing puppeteer for sure.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
IIRC
Isn’t KNBR a part-owner of the Giants?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks to you both...
…more faulty memory banks here —→ did this development (KNBR joining ownership group) take place in the last 5-7 years?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Haven't you ever see/heard how they act when Larry Baer comes into the booth?
Get well soon, Buster.
Is it so difficult to believe that Kruk and Kuip, for their own personal reasons, actually were just siding with Alou, whom they had known for decades and who was seriously offended by Kreuger’s fucktardery?
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no reason believing this. Kreuger enjoyed taking his shtick to the brink, and he blew past it on that fateful day and then some.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Whenever we see the same idiotic moves over and over again (Tejada starting, Nads starting, Affeldt in a close game) I always hold out hope that there are behind the scenes reasons, like trades or serious thoughts of salary dumps.
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You got yout handle wrong.
It’s supposed to be “in play, out(s)”
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
With the discovery of these “Grand Slams” my handle will be pretty appropriate.
I hope.
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
/SPOTLIGHT!
Giant Dirtbags: :(
Jeremy Affeldt is terrible.
by Giant among Angels on May 31, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Kruk, even though he’s a true company man, but there’s no way he rips Tejada without express permission from management. Note his reticence when defending Burrell and compare it to his derision of Tejada’s abilities. Management is preparing fans for Tejada’s inevitable DFA when Pablo returns, not that it’s going to break anybody’s heart to see him leave the lineup.
Eliminate that pesky Dominatrix in one easy step. Step 1: Tell her you're a Cubs fan!
I'm a greedy person. I want Crawford AND Belt in the lineup.
I will be angry until they are both in the lineup.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on May 31, 2011 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
After today,
You might be the 3RD BRANDON AT BEST!
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
I don’t mind at all. In fact, I’m putting my name in contention to moderate a panel by that title at next year’s FanFest.
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“Brandon, how do you feel about being one of many Brandons on the team?”
“Well, Brandon…”
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KILLA B's!
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Today's LOLineup
BELT
#SFGiants lineup: Torres cf, Tejada 3b, Sanchez 2b, Burrell lf, Belt 1b, Ross rf, Crawford ss, Whiteside c, Vogelsong p
Ask me about my blog.
WAT
I'm still waiting for John Johnstone to come off the DL.
by yankeessuck8991 on May 31, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
YEEESSSS
Except for Tehaha batting 2nd.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Not our worst possible lineup.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
using statistical analysis
based on last weekend’s games, I have calculated that this lineup will produce two grand slams.
Applying data from prior years to the 8th spot, projections suggest 3 grand slams.z
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you okay?
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
This thread is getting fantastic.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
If it weren't for Z
I would have no idea what I’ve read and what I haven’t.
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
this reminds me
of that Monty Python "Deja Vu" sketch where they keep doing the same skit over and over and over.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I think it’s just to honor the fact that 2 Brandons are playing today.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
but that means at least 8-12 runz
Vogelsong is pitching today, so that seems likely!
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
using statistical analysis
based on last weekend’s games, I have calculated that this lineup will produce two grand slams.
Applying data from prior years to the 8th spot, projections suggest 3 grand slams.z
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
AAAAAAAAAAAUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
This thread is getting fantastic.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
If it weren't for Z
I would have no idea what I’ve read and what I haven’t.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
this reminds me
of that Monty Python “Deja Vu” sketch where they keep doing the same skit over and over and over.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh fuck yes finally have fun hitting chris carpenter i should leave work early to see this on mlb.tv
by Dan from NM on May 31, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay!
But Tejada needs to go. I like Belt and Crawford, but Tejada needs to go. He really needs to go.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on May 31, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Tehaha batting 2nd!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 31, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
HE LIVES!
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
double the BBrraannddoonn!!!
Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington: 25.1 IP, 17 BB, 29 K, 1-1, 3.55 ERA, .193 BAA
M-M-M-M-Mad
Mad to the Bum
by TimLaser and MattyC on May 31, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
double the BBrraannddoonn!!!
Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington: 25.1 IP, 17 BB, 29 K, 1-1, 3.55 ERA, .193 BAA
M-M-M-M-Mad
Mad to the Bum
by TimLaser and MattyC on May 31, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Burrell doesn’t strike out nine times.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I really love this lineup. Except for Tejada, but hey- I can live with that for now.
Won’t be long now til you’re gone, fucker!! I believe in teh Crawford!
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Why does Tejada ever bat higher than 8th?
Is it because Eli Whiteside?
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
because bork
and also bork bork
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@productiveouts | Productive Outs
Fixed
Why does Tejada ever bathigher than 8th?
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Double Fixed
WhydoesTejadaever bat higher than 8th?
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
So he can sac bunt Torres over instead of letting our .300 hitter do it!
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I would prefer that Tejada just bunts with every AB.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You are not funny
Post the real LOLineup.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
1,2,4 are the most important spots, iirc
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
d’oh!
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Freddy is hitting like I’ve never seen him hit. Love it
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t see it
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what? I like it.
With Tejada sandwiched between Torres and Sanchez, they can just let him do his thing and get work done around him.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
the one thing I don't get is why Tejada would bat second
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
How quickly we forget Renteria.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
How quickly we forget 2009 Renteria.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
at least 2009 Renteria slugged .328!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He was never as bad as Tejada is right now!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
He was still terrible, and yet he batted second in 68 of his 124 games that season.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
His OBP was at least over .250 though.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I think it’s pretty obvious Bochy things the #2 hitter isn’t important.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
The #2 hitter only exists to move the #1 hitter over. You don’t have to get any hits ever to be successful in that role.
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by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
McC Inception
Has McC used Inception to place lineup thoughts in Bruce Bochy’s big brain????
by Drug Runner SF on May 31, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Well.....
Send Posey into Bork’s brain
by Drug Runner SF on May 31, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I went in a dream within a dream, expecting that time would slow down or something, but time just did a bunch of fucky things because that’s how brains work in real life.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
so when its time for “defensive substitution”
does ross move to lf and nate come in for rf, or does belt move to lf and huff come in at 1b?
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Suck it Mat Latos rolls of the tongue so nicely
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Bork Bork Bork Bork Bork. Grumble Bork Grumble Grumble. - Translated Gritty Gamers are Gritty and Gamerly.
by Cant_buy_a_run on May 31, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
OT - Best part about going "off the grid" in Big Sur this weekend?
That was my first exposure to those disgusting f’n hats.
P.S. Thanks Grant.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 12:48 PM PDT reply actions
Where in Big Sur were you? I was there too.
Adopted Giant - Carlos "Don't Call Me Wallaby" Willoughby
Stayed at Deetjen’s – spent Saturday and Sunday at the Henry Miller Library for a couple of concerts….Nice weather, no?
First time at rustic Deetjen’s at I have to say I was impressed.
Last time I was in Big Sur I stayed at Fernwood – which is also pretty nice.
FYI – I think I last camped during the Bush administration.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I look forward to reading your drug- and mental breakdown-induced roman a clef about your time spent there.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Heh. You might see me amongst these folk.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
How was the Viola Lee Blues closer?
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Strong! They did it previously at the 4.20 Oakland New Parish show, also with that dude from the opening band sitting in on guitar.
Second show at Big Sur was in the evening Sunday as Saturday night was rained out and the encore featured a cool version of “He Was a Friend of Mine.”
They took down that big California Republic flag that’s been the background for the tour since March and had everyone sign it. Hilarity ensued. Rumors had them recording a live album in Big Sur, regardless I’m holding tickets for the GAMH gig on the 26th of June.
Incidentally, I received a number of compliments on my Buster Posey ROY t-shirt from similarly be-grieved Giants fans…
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck Bud Selig-mandated patriotism. Yeah, God Bless America, I’m looking at you too.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
WWI, I thought
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
WWI was the first Red Scare, or like immediately following WWI
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is his year.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on May 31, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
this.
I wander off to the bathroom during GBA to support both short bathroom lines and the separation of church and state.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
What part of scratchy Kate Smith recordings makes you hate America so much?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I need to do.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I have a theory
I’m somewhat hopeful that this is part of a coordinated PR effort: that Krukow is the thin end of the Giants PR wedge, preparing us for the benching/DFAing/combustion of Tejada. It’s just a gut feeling, but Krukow, as charming as he is, toes the company line and almost never denigrates Giants players. Maybe this is the first sally in preparing us for Tejada going away (and, sadly, in preparing us for Huff continuing to man 1B for the foreseeable future).
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
@productiveouts | Productive Outs
by delorean on May 31, 2011 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Baggs has been hinting that the org is preparing to take Tejada action soon, too, so this theory may have floaties.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s some master plan, just Kruk leaking what he’s heard.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
From Baggs
Call it a reporter’s intuition, or maybe my spider sense is tingling, but I think there might be more going on. I get the sense that Sandoval’s return isn’t the only change that could be happening soon.
Tejada stands to lose his starting job, or his roster spot, when Sandoval comes back. Just a hunch, but I think the club is giving Tejada one last chance to show he’s still got something left.
The thong is, it happened.
Time for a closed-door meeting with the players so Tejada can gain their confidence and hang around long enough to hit two incredible World Series HRs.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
In what world do fans have to be prepared for tejada to go? Its been somethinng most have wanted for weeks already
by apistat on May 31, 2011 12:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
In what world do fans have to be prepared for tejada to go? Its been somethinng most have wanted for weeks already
by apistat on May 31, 2011 12:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm always down to see your graphs
If you know what I mean..
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He will not laugh, but will rage as his job.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
are you his fraternal twin?
Pain vs Torture
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
They had Jim Bowden on today which practically made my skin crawl (seriously, could they find someone sleazier) and the first thing he did was go off and say Posey was to blame for his injury because he didn’t catch the ball in a fundamentally sound manner. And then that tool Karabel spent the next half hour effusing about how awesome it was that Bowden would come on an blast Posey.
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Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You know
Bill Baer at Crashburn Alley doesn’t understand stats/statistical analysis as well as he thinks.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
I am in the apparent minority of people that believe that Tejada actually will sit in favor of Crawford and/or Fontenot when Mike and Pablo return, provided that Crawford manages to continue hitting at least .220 with some walks.
I am basing this guess on the fact that Tejada has played five games at SS this month. That may be related to the organization feeling that Fontenot can’t handle 3B, but I really think the Tejada SS experiment is more or less over.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
i join you in this line
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Misery loves company!
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I’ve seen no shortage of people despairing about Tejada moving back to shortstop when Sandoval returns, and further lamenting that Tejada starts at all (despite no viable alternatives, Burriss included). I can’t say I’ve done a straw poll of what people thing, but I certainly feel as though I am in the minority… thus, apparent.
Bitch gotta go.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I think Burriss goes away to make room for Pablo, if it’s in the next couple of weeks.
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Weird.
Fontenot and then Burriss at SS should have been clue enough about Tejada.
Feel free to criticize Bochy for his bullpen usage thus far, but his usage of Tejada has really not been that problematic. He simply hasn’t had any better options.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I just wish he wouldn't bat second.
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He's like Grant, but fun size.
I’m ok with Fontenot playing over Crawford, just not Tejada. If Crawford is on the MLB team tho, I want to him to play every day.
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I truly believe that this is Tejadas last chance. Let us never speak his name again after Pablo returns.
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't really want Tejada OR Crawford starting.
Much rather have Sandoval at 3rd, and Fontenot at SS, once healthy.
really?
I’ve already written off this season, so I see no problem with giving Crawford the bulk of the starts at SS and seeing what he can do. Fontenot isn’t part of any Giants future, other than as a super-utility guy.
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Why write off this season?
Crawford’s glove can play at the MLB level, sure, but his bat can’t, not really. Fontenot is a servicable MLB starting middle infielder, and can hold the job down until Crawford shows real improvement, or the Giants sign a FA for the spot.
This season is not over in the least…
You're entitled to your opinion,
but the Giants’ offense was aboslutely dreadful before Buster went down, and without him it goes from dreadful to putrid. As a great man once said, " No amount of pitching will be able to carry an offense this bad."
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The offense hasn't been very good, no.
But with Sandoval back, positive regression from a few players who are likely to do so, and Fontenot upgrading Tejada’s spot in the lineup, Belt snagging some at-bats… This offense is not nearly as bad going forwards as it is at the moment. And the Giants are not exactly out of the race, WITH the offense having been this bad.
not technically out of the race, no
but they’ve also outperformed their pythag by an enormous amount.
hey, I hope to be proven wrong, but I don’t see them winning the division, and they might even finish 3rd. And the wild card sure as hell isn’t coming out of the West this year.
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I 'do' see them winning the division, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is by 3+ games.
No Posey hurts, there’s no getting around of that – but there’s still enough talent to win a weak division.
CF – Torres
2B – Sanchez
3B – Sandoval
LF – Huff/Burrell
RF – Ross
1B – Belt
SS – Fontenot
C – Whiteside
P – Lincecum
There’s still talent. There’s still potential for a league average offense there, even without Buster. League average offense + solid defense + pitching + weak division + favorableish remaining schedule = There’s a good chance.
The weak division is the blessing really.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
or a curse
allowing us to inexplicably continue to hang around when we are nowhere near as good as those making the playoffs and effectively preventing us from figuring out which young guys can compete going forward.
Cain is Able ...
nah
Step 1. Get into the playoffs
Step 2. /run_crapshoot.exe
Step 3. Profit!
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you're right,
I just don’t see it. Not sure where the + regression is supposed to come from. Burrell and Ross, I guess? Maybe Belt, if he’s allowed to contribute? It’s certainly possible.
I think the Rockies take the division, though, but their pitching is suspect. The DBacks are a mirage, Dodgers and Padres are hopeless … It’s possible.
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Fontenot's BABIP is .235.
Ross’ BABIP is in .275.
Huff’s struggles are well documented.
Team HR/FB is ridiculously low relative to career levels.
And nobody is currently playing all that far over their heads.
There’s really nowhere to go but up.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Likely up, but how far? I just don’t see how some regression + (Belt + Crawford) – Posey gets you a league-average offense. You’re asking for a pretty substantial dead-cat bounce there.
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First of all, it’s not a dead cat.
Second, run scoring relative to offensive production has been below where it should be. The Giants haven’t been hitting well, but their hit distribution has been particularly unlucky. Adding just an extra couple hits into the lineup every day could actually bring scoring up by a full run in practice. Plus, HR/FB rates regressing back towards career levels has a pretty obvious impact on scoring.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
First of all, it’s not a dead cat.
Second, run scoring relative to offensive production has been below where it should be. The Giants haven’t been hitting well, but their hit distribution has been particularly unlucky. Adding just an extra couple hits into the lineup every day could actually bring scoring up by a full run in practice. Plus, HR/FB rates regressing back towards career levels has a pretty obvious impact on scoring.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Look at the lineup I posted.
Look at a lineup with Rowand, Tejada, Crawford, Burriss, NotBrandonBelt in it.
With Buster in there instead of Whiteside, I’d call it a near lock to win division. But he’s probably only worth 2.5-3 wins more than Whiteside, and I think that’s well within the difference between us and the Rockies at this point.
Of course…. we need Bochy to actually put the posted lineup on the field consistently. But eh. I have faith.
wow, really?
A near lock to win the division? Their pythag win projection right now is 82. Wait til Tulowitzki’s BABIP rights itself and the Rockies pitching gets shored up. If anyone is a “lock” to win the West (and no one is), it’s the Rockies.
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I said, with Buster in there instead of Whiteside, I'd call it a near lock.
It’s certainly not currently, but I still like the Giants chances. Just an awful lot of that assumes Bochy puts the best lineup on the field consistently.
whoops, right
I missed that, sorry. I wouldn’t disagree with that.
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I wouldn’t be so sure. Teams outperform/underperform pythags all the time.
We were the lock to win the West with Posey. Without him, well, it gets harder, but the races pull a little closer.
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
of course
I’m not claiming the Giants will win 82 games. In fact, I dont’ think they’ll win that many.
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Why?
With Posey in there instead of Whiteside, they were projected as a 90ish win team, conservatively. 2.5-3 wins doesn’t suddenly drop them 10 games. 87-88 wins sounds about right to me, which could very well win the division comfortably.
Because their offense is fucking dreadful. Like, the 2nd worst in the NL. Second to last in wOBA/wRC+. Third to last in OBP. Third worst in slugging. Not even Timmy can win games if the offense can’t score a single run.
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Care less about what the offense has looked like to this point.
Look more to what it is likely to look like going forwards. Look at the additions to the lineup, ‘and’ the subtractions to the lineup. We’ve hung in there ‘with’ the horrible offense thus far. It’s not going to stay this bad.
We were saying the same thing at this time last year, too. There is still room for improvement
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess this comes down to a fundamental difference in outlooks
I’m saying that the Giants have gotten incredibly lucky to have won as many games as they have with a horrible offense, whereas you think they’re been unlucky and will get better. I guess I don’t feel like + regression from Huff, Ross, and Belt are going to be enough to make this offense league average. But again, I hope I’m wrong.
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Lucky or unlucky to this point doesn't really matter.
Those games happened, and we are where we are in the standings.
What we have to look at is what we have going forwards. Sandoval back is big. Huge, even. Never having Rowand, Tejada, or Crawfords bat as a starting regular is huge. Regression will happen from Huff, Ross, Burrell, Belt, Fontenot.
There’s a lot of little things that inspire optimism about this offense. Not that it will be ‘good’, but that it can be average to slightly below average. Which is a world different than what it has been to this point.
Also, look at the teams' schedule to this point.
We’ve played many more games on the road than we have at home. Not a huge deal, but… means easier schedule the rest of the way, does it not?
Lucky or unlucky to this point doesn’t really matter.
Those games happened, and we are where we are in the standings.
So very much this. Just because they’ve been lucky so far doesn’t mean they’re bound to be unlucky in the future. In fact, they’re exactly as likely to be just as lucky in the next 50 games as they are to regress all the way back to the mean.
So, if their pythag projects them as a .500 team, and you think their run scoring and prevention will stay at this level all season, you would project them to finish the season with 83-84 wins.
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That metaphor got away from me.
Well, it can be both
1) Lucky to have won as many games as they have with the crap offense, and
2) Unlucky that the offense has been so bad
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 31, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think leaning on pythag is really the way to go about it.
Again, that’s based on current performance, which is unsustainably bad. Given that we are already outperforming our pythag, a bump in production from two or three players could easily push the team past 88 wins for the season.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
You're a helluva lot more optimistic than me
And I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
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This team is scoring less than the ‘09 team, despite the roster being better from top to bottom in terms of talent level, with the exception of Uribe at SS. Something’s gotta give.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
This team is scoring less than the ‘09 team, despite the roster being better from top to bottom in terms of talent level, with the exception of Uribe at SS. Something’s gotta give.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree. Something's gotta give, and it will.
We’re 5 over .500 with zero production from players that will produce.
All I care about is another playoff appearance. People will discount the team, saying without Buster we won’t go anywhere, and I want to prove them wrong. Get to the NLCS, and I’m a happy camper.
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
the thing about pythags
is that they happened. You can say “oh they’ve been lucky so far with their pythag” but what you’re implying is “so obviously they’re going to regress hard” which isn’t the case.
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Trolls are like cockroach Nazis. Sure, you CAN try to reason with them, but they won't listen, and if you respond to them, they invade your Sudetenland.
Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
In this case, this actually would be the gambler's fallacy.
Ditto for our record in 1-run games, which has a lot to do with our pythag discrepancy.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
never meant to imply that at all
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it's bad enough
to lose a year of Buster. You will flush another year of Timmy, Cain, and Guapo.
Anyway, they haven’t white-flagged (on purpose)… ever since the new park opened? They won’t start now.
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
why write off the season?
they won 88 games with only Pablo as their offense in ’09.
now we have Andres, Freddy, Belt, Burrell, Ross, and an even better pitching staff. winning 93 games isn’t out of reach.
Pablo is the drivetrain of the offense, the one the rest of this season will be built around.
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
We were lucky to win 88 that year.
I think 87-88 is the perfect projection to our current roster.
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I still think this team wins 90-91 games. The schedule from July-Sept are all pretty easy. We only play 20 of the final 60 games vs teams with records over .500 (not inc the DBacks).
You forget we’ve played a very tough schedule so far, yet are 5 games over .500
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
This gets at the biggest question of this season going forward
It’s a two-part question:
1) Will Pablo be able to keep up his hitting performance with his post-op right hand?, and
2) Will Pablo be able to keep up his hitting performance in any event, or did he just have a hot start to the year before he got hurt?
With Buster out for the year, Pablo will have to be this year’s Buster. (I don’t see Belt filling Buster’s shoes immediately, although anything is possible.) If he can play at that level (and if other hitters start to look at least a bit better), the Giants still have a shot to contend late in the season.
by Here Be Giants on May 31, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: Dodgers make payroll with cash advances from corporate sponsorship deals
Los Angeles Dodgers owner Frank McCourt was able to meet the team’s payroll Tuesday with cash advances drawn on the team’s corporate sponsorship deals, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to speak publicly.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=6611944
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Only delaying the inevitable
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by doubleteapot on May 31, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
So you’re saying we’re to be having this same conversation two weeks from now?
To be honest, it’s all just getting really sad. McCourt just needs to go.
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New from two weeks from now
Los Angeles Dodgers owner Frank McCourt was able to meet the team’s payroll Tuesday with cash made from selling fake teeth to Cash4Gold and rare metals from catalytic converters he swears came off his own car according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to speak publicly.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Did McCourt try to burn down the stadium again? Heard there was another fire in the same room, hahaha.
Couldn’t be a flareup, since us firefighters stay overnight if an area is still a hot spot.
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, Mr. McCourt
Nice Stadium you have here. Shame if something…. happened to it. Nyah.
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He just wanted it for the cool parking lot.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
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DID YOU SAY PARKING LOT!>?!?!?!
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Let’s get this green
by North Side Chicago Expatriate Giants Fan on May 31, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate that it’s Cash4Gold. I think it should be Gold4Cash. Because you’re giving them your gold for cash. I know they are giving you their cash for gold, but a good business should at least pretend to operate from the customer’s point of view.
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by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
“Hi, this is AT&T and we’d like to offer you a deal for $0.10/min 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year!”
“Oh that sounds great! Will you be sending me my $52,560 in a lump sum, or will it come in installments?”
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Or something.
That metaphor got away from me.
I THINK IT SOUNDS WRONG
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by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
I think that’s my first green. Approval from the internet almost makes up for the lack of it I got from my parents.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
So, basically he got a bunch of payday loans? Usually that ends well.
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm
I hate the Dodgers and want them to fail so that part of me wants McCourt to stay as owner. But then another part of me likes when the Dodgers are competitive late into the season and then the Giants or another team crushes their hopes at the end of the season.
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Delicious.
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It's Posey time!!
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Over/Under of 1 on how many more payrolls met w/o MLB loan?
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by say hey nation on May 31, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Under.
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The Los Angeles Dodgers
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heh
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m watching Giada do something with Brewsketta and prashootoh.
If Miguel Tejada starts over Brandon Belt, I’ll just record this episode and watch it six times in a row every time the Giants play.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
Brandon Crawford.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Brandon Something.
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by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
ALL BRANDONS LOOK THE SAME TO ME
/racis
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What about all Crawfords?
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
We all know RBI's aren't a good stat.
but for good measure, Crawford has 5 RBI’s in like 8 official ABs, while Tejada has 13 or 14 in 175 ABs.
Also, Crawford has 1 HR in 8 ABs, while Tehaha, 1 HR in 175.
This argument is based on real facts, and is not a strawman! :)
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by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Straw hats can’t even claim rib eyes per at-bat.
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by Lars The Wanderer on May 31, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Also:
Brandon Crawford has 3 BB’s to Tejada’s 7. At this rate, Craw should pass him by the time Fontenot/Pablo come back.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
He clearly lacks Value Over Replacement Spotlight!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Belt is a bigger deal.
But Tejada is done. We’re 1/3 into the season and his OBP is almost .100 below even his average.
It’s almost too easy of an answer. If given the choice, I want the better defensively, young, quicker player out to prove his mettle over a seemingly overly comfortable veteran that is beyond slumping.
totally made a baby during the 2010 World Series.
With the choice of two offensively challenged players, I’ll take the guy with the better glove every time. So far this season it looks like Tejada has simply forgotten defensive fundamentals, whereas Crawford is young enough I expect him to remember to wait for the ball from the catcher on a SB attempt instead of catching it two or three feet in front of the bag. Just one of the many irksome things about Tejadas defense.
So, to answer, on a scale of 1-10, my anger would be at least an 11.
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 12:59 PM PDT reply actions
Eat your leg
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on May 31, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Eat your leg
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on May 31, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Eat your leg
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
Vomit it up and eat it again.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If your leg tastes bland, send it down to the AAA for some seasoning, Then eat your leg.
Adopted Giant: Jacob Dunnington: 25.1 IP, 17 BB, 29 K, 1-1, 3.55 ERA, .193 BAA
M-M-M-M-Mad
Mad to the Bum
by TimLaser and MattyC on May 31, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
DOUBLE POST MANIA!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 31, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions
This thread will set records for double posts.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
This thread will set records for double posts.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
This thread will set records for double posts.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
DOUBLE POST MANIA!!
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions
Am I double posting?
Or is it an exclusive club?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I double posting?
Or is it an exclusive club?
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
Ok I can’t tell if all of these double postings are just a joke or real
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
I think posts about double posting are jokes. The others, prolly not.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Yeah
Ok I figured but I couldn’t tell if the double posts are just on purpose now.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
Yeah
Ok I figured but I couldn’t tell if the double posts are just on purpose now.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I posting at all?
Definitely an exclusive club..
fred71510
Ok I can’t tell if all of these double postings are just a joke or real
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Ok I can’t tell if all of these double postings are just a joke or real
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Tejada is bad, and his bat is bound to a different planet’s gravity right now, but he isn’t this bad. He’s been getting unlucky, hitting some balls hard right at people.
Is this actually true? My eyes tell me otherwise – when I think of Tejada batting, I picture him hitting a groundball to the left side. I feel like he does this far more often than not.
"I give up that lead-off double, well, who cares? I'm about to get nasty." - Brian Wilson
This
I must have been screaming at Bork for sitting Belt when all of these “line drives” happened.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
pounding the ball into the ground isn’t a good way to get a hit.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He is amazingly reliable this way
Even some of his “hits” have come when the defense was aligned such that the typical double-play grounder ended up finding a hole.
"Bruce Wayne is the Brian Wilson of Gotham." -DrDC
yep
his GB% has gotta be close to 70% or higher.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You could look that up.
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by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I could, but it would take me 10min to find it
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Much better to just make something up.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I never presented it as a fact. cool ya jets
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
1. www.fangraphs.com
2. search for player
3. scroll
4. profit!
Adopted father of Chris Lincecum, without whom (quite literally) Timmy would not exist.
cool. thanks
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Fangraphs
Also has a nice app for the iPhone in case some of you ever find yourselves on a bar stool arguing about MLB player’s _____________.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He has a 53.6% GB%
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It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
That's close
Kind of….
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s still extremely high.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh it migsucks, there’s no doubt about it.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather him hit the ball on the ground
his grounders have a chance of finding holes. His flyballs just hang up for outfielders to catch, and I don’t think we’re going to see too many go over the wall.
by GuyWhiteyCorngood on May 31, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re a towel.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
You’re a tissue
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Tejada is bad, and his bat is bound to a different planet’s gravity right now, but he isn’t this bad.
Players are never that bad. Unless they are.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
lulz Baggs
Ryan Vogelsong is 3-1 with a 1.77 ERA. Chris Carpenter is 1-5 with a 4.58 ERA. They will be portrayed by Fred Savage and Judge Reinhold in the movie. It should be awesome
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
LOL
Fantastic. Now I have the Mock Trial with Judge Reinhold song stuck in my head.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
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I miss Franklin.
Kickham where it hurts
by say hey nation on May 31, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
My name is Judge!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
What in the heck computer!?
Testing..testing…
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Don't know if posted above but brandons yay!
CF Torres
3B Tejada
2B Sanchez
LF Burrell
1B Belt
RF Ross
SS Crawford
C Whiteside
P Vogelsong
by Falconer88 on May 31, 2011 1:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Not the order I'd put them in
But not too bad, except for Migsucky, which can be cured in about a week.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Crawford OK, Belt more important
Good chance Crawford can’t hit major league pitching.
What are the chances Brandon Belt can? He’s the guy to watch, and may play AFTER Panda is back if he hits.
fred71510
Crawford should get more time to work on hitting in AAA or so, once Fontenot/Pablo are healthy.
Belt… I’d like to see him at 1B near every day, with Huff/Burrell getting a healthy number of LF starts each.
If Crawford shows the ability to make adjustments to pitching at the ML level, there’s no reason to send him back to Fresno if you can also use him at the ML level.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
My answer:
REALLY FUCKING ANGRY. GNASH GNASH
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I will scream and throw things.
Or at least come here and type in all-caps for a while.
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
lol
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
This
I’m already raging like it’s 2009 over Brandon Belt, best rage shape of my life.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
All caps and lots of exclams --
LIKE THIS!!!!!!
by mrs. owlcroft on May 31, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
GET YOUR OWN SHTICK
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
SHTICK SWIPER!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
it should never reach those heights
With Bengie, there was an in-house replacement waiting in the wings. There wasn’t really anyone in the system who was ready to step in and take the everyday SS job.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
@productiveouts | Productive Outs
They’re saving that for after Tejada is dumped and they need it for the Huff Rage.
Get well soon, Buster.
What would the equivalent be with Huff?
If they designated him for assignment, he cleared waivers and they kept him on the active roster, starting at first base?
This, this, this.
CF – Torres
2B – Sanchez
3B – Sandoval
LF – Huff/Burrell
RF – Ross
1B – Belt
SS – Fontenot
C – Whiteside
Yeah, I really don’t mind Fontenot starting over Crawford, as long as Crawford is in the minors. Which is where he should be.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
Yeah, I really don’t mind Fontenot starting over Crawford, as long as Crawford is in the minors. Which is where he should be.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
to be honest, Fontenot sure makes alot of errors on routine plays. It would be a tight race between the two, but I think Crawford wins out in the end.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Fontenot plays SS when Panda gets back and he gets off the DL, tbh.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Me too.
And I’m ok with this as long as Crawford isn’t sitting on the bench.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Eh
I’d actually like to see them DFA Tejada and keep Crawford on the bench as the backup SS.
I mean, you don’t bench guys if you’re worried about hurting their development, but I’m not too worried about Crawford.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
you could platoon them.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
whoa, nevermind. I totally forgot they are both LH hitters.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s the problem. If Crawford hit righty, you could keep him around as a complement to Fontenot. As it is, you’re better off with Tejada. (Or Rohlinger, but I guess that ship has sailed.)
Yes, but you don’t want to platoon young players unless you want them to stay platoon players.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
yeah, I wasn’t thinking for a minute there. That’s odd, both our SS are RH but bat LH.
Ambidextrous? is a whole lot more commom (at least on this team) than I previously thought. Ross, Bumgarner, Lincecum, Fontenot, Crawford, Nate, Huff… am I missing anyone?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Sandoval
He can throw right and left-handed, plus hit that way too.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
crazy, isn’t it? hard chopper, bobbled to his left side, dude could literally just toss his glove off and throw with the other hand.
WebGem of the year.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not ambidextrosity.
Only Pablo is truly ambidextrous on this team.
Batting hand isn’t really ‘handedness’; I’m definitely right-handed, not ambidextrous, and can bat both lefty and righty, with a preference to the left side.
Adoptive father of Jose Casilla.
yeah, I wasn’t sure what the term was for players that hit from one side only and throw from another only. excludes switch hitters, obviously. I didn’t realize so many players bat and throw from different ‘sides’.
ambidextrous is the only word that came to mind.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too.
And I’m ok with this as long as Crawford isn’t sitting on the bench.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
/Belt’d
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoops, Evan just covered this.
And cornball made the point emphatically.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
No one reads posts unless they are double-posted, anyway.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
No one reads posts unless they are double-posted, anyway.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Never mind, I get it now.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
lol
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
Interesting Aside
Yesterday was the warmest (game time) day of the 2011 season by a lot (6.5 degrees higher than the next highest day), and, possibly not coincidentally, it was by far highest run scoring day of the year, with cumulative pitching ERA of >6.00, and the most HRs per game as well as 3 of the 15 longest HRs of the year (all numbers via Stats & Info blog).
MY DAD WAS WRONG!
MY BOY NEEDS TO THROW HARDER!
Ryan Vogelsong is not pleased
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
So I used to ctrl F “crawford” whenever I joined a thread, to see if there was any chatter about him. I can’t do that any more.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Wouldn’t you just be searching for your own comments?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Headline newz
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
well, that ruined the joke
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Awwwwww :(
Posey is leading the AS votes for C, 150,000 votes ahead of McCann
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions
Good
I haven’t voted for an All-Star in a while, but I’m going to go vote for Buster like a Japanese teenager.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus, people on the East Coast probably haven’t received news yet of his injury, so the Red Sox alliance should pay dividends for Posey
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
We send them news of injury via Pony Express
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
With East Coast bias, how did he ever stand a chance.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
yknow, it would be a hell of a show of support if he could win the AS vote for C while being out for the year. I’m gotta put my 25 votes on him.
Also, betting Pablo gets an AS appearance.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I see Pablo making it, too. Third place right now.
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Polanco will probably win, and deservedly so.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
he may win, but Bork can always choose his reserves.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Interested to see what will happen there, fortunately for him, most of the Giants aren’t close. Maybe he’ll put the whole rotation on the team though.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh. Only two position players that deserve a mention
this season are Buster and Sandoval.
I’d expect a few Giants pitchers + Sandoval to make up the teams AS selections.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Sanchez got in. Torres has been pretty good, too, although he hasn’t played that much.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Eh, no chance.
Phillips and Weeks are far better than Sanchez, and Espinosa/Walker might get ‘shit, this team needs a player…’ nods. Outfield is far too deep for Torres to sneak in this year. Braun, Holliday, Berkman, Rasmus, McCutchen, Kemp, Bruce…. can you honestly say you’d take Torres over any of them?
I would take Torres over Berkman in the long term and with McCutchen… I would have to think about it. But probably not, no.
wait what
We’re talking about the ASG here. Berkman is The Best Hitter in the NL so far this season and it hasn’t really been all that close.
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
@productiveouts | Productive Outs
I just meant for the ASG, yeah.
Obviously Berkman might not hold up as well as others due to age and body type. But he’s been exceptional so far this year.
Deservedly so?
Polanco is 345ish wOBA, Sandoval was 390ish. The games played gap is there, but… it won’t look quite as huge once Pablo is back and playing. Still good ways from break.
I still voted for him...
…even after the injury. It’s silly but…
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
It’s a lot less silly than All-Star voting in general.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I think the solution is for the Phillies not to win the pennant.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Nobody can beat that prolific offense and three-headed pitching monster.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Once he gets back from the DL, Fontenot is our best shortstop
But…
ZiPS RoS:
Fontenot: .249/.321/.393
Crawford: .225/.288/.345
Jose Reyes: .296/.347/.450
Just sayin.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m sure this has been asked, but when is Fontenot slated to return?
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He's been on the 15 day for, what, like 4 days now?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Giants website
Fontenot, Mike (2B) 15-day DL Left groin strain Placed on DL May 26.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
same day as Buster
it only seems like an eternity.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t even think about that. That was indeed a black day for baseball.
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You don’t know kung fu, Keanu.
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=)
I think the Giants should trade for Reyes. Even over Fontenot he’s a pretty huge upgrade. 20+ points of OBP and 50+ points of SLG… plus having him and Torres at the top of the lineup would be vrooooom city.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I'll be all
Thank you Edgar Renteria, for hitting the ball three feet higher.
by tobias on May 31, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That scared me.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
I just feel dizzy.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
/clicks SL to alleviate the nausea and incipient headache
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Aside from Buster, Mole and Pablo are the only Giants in the top five at any position. On the other hand, every Braves starter except McLouth is there.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
SIAP: Brandon Crawford's currently the third trending search on Yahoo
The Marina girls’ new favorite Giant?
You can say that again
My mind ain't nuthin' but a total blank, I think I'll just stay here and draaank - Merle Haggard
by NuschlerFace on May 31, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
SIAP: Brandon Crawford's currently the third trending search on Yahoo
The Marina girls’ new favorite Giant?
he’s married, I believe
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Going to be in November. I can’t believe I agreed to be an usher. Now I’ve got to fly out there, buy a nice wedding gift…
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wow
You Brandons really stick together!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Sticking together is what good Brandons do.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
When I was a bridesmaid I had to help the bride dress
Do ushers have similar responsibilities privileges?
Get well soon, Buster.
My usher’s main responsibility was to play Sega Genesis Hockey with me the morning of the weding.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
This sounds like what most ushers and groomsmen do. That and play drunk golf.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
plan the bachelor party,
typically.
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Guys – straight guys, at least – do not under any circumstances help each other dress.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
Myself and everyone who’s ever tied my tie for me would disagree.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone mentioned all-star ballot results, so...
I thought I’d toss a quick list of what I’m thinking so far. I’m… not going to vote Buster as much as I’d love to, because he simply can’t play, and I’d rather make my vote count, rather than see managers choice get in, or whatever.
C- Yadier Molina
1B – Joey Votto
2B – Rickie Weeks
SS – Jose Reyes
3B – Pablo Sandoval
OF – Matt Holliday
OF – Colby Rasmus
OF – Lance Berkman
Some combination of current performance and past performance, without….actually looking the stats up too closely. Whatever. I won’t vote for real until closer to deadline regardless, heh.
Not voting for Buster
/banned, but seriously.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Buster wins the vote
And I hope Bochy picks McCann to replace him.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Needs more Braun, less Holliday.
And probably not Weeks at 2B.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
So in all seriosusness
Can Buster still win the AS vote even tho hes out for the season?
Yes
And he’ll officially still be an All-Star even if he doesn’t play.
Vroom. Walks. Five positions. Justin Christian
I've been fully suckered into the Twitterverse. Oops.
Bochy could always pick him as a reserve, even if he’s on the DL. It’s just for the honors, and I’m sure any baseball fan would say that Posey is an All-Star, DL or not.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I would take Holliday over Rasmus.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Who over Weeks?
Only person you could even make an argument for is Phillips. And they’ll both make it regardless, one starting, one as reserve.
Braun over one of the outfielders is debatable, I guess. But I just don’t like the fucker. So, there’s that.
Weeks has been having a huge season.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
BOOOO!!!
I’d never vote for Berkman, even if he is tearing it up. Didn’t like his comments about SF. How about Jay Bruce? dude is looking like an MVP candidate.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Let us not forget Berkman has a large face. That immediately makes me dislike him.
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He’s got that Todd Helton smirk too, which I hate.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
STL always stacks the ballots.
I say fuck ‘em. I’m probably okay with Rasmus, but I’d rather see Braun/McCutcheon/Bruce with McCann behind the dish than more Phillies and Cardinals.
Come to think of it, better Rasmus than Victorino.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
The Cardinals OF has been utterly and completely ridiculous this year.
I wouldn’t be surprised if those 3 players had more WAR than the entire Giants offense.
Oh god...
Giants offense has accumulated 3.9 total WAR. That includes some pretty damn good defense in the mix. That’s…brutal.
Without Tejada the offense is putting up a 4.8.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
Huff's hurting even more
-1.3 fWAR
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Yeah...
The Cards 3 starting outfielders alone have been worth 7.2 WAR… and that’s with some injury time sprinked in for Holliday/Berkman. Giants have had two players play well so far, in Buster and Sandoval. At least we’ll get Sandoval back soon.
Yikes
So without those two our offense is 6.1 WAR? That’s an incredible amount of suckage for two players.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
THERE'S MAGIC INSIDE!
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
yup.
as bad as Tejada has been, Huff has been half as bad again (so far this season).
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There's at least some hope that Huff rebounds, though.
Can’t… really say the same for Tejada, heh.
it's all so silly
I’d much, much, much rather see a campaign for Buster than for the stupid Red Sox. LOL buried on their website.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
it's all so silly
I’d much, much, much rather see a campaign for Buster than for the stupid Red Sox. LOL buried on their website.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
OF – Kemp
I really wanted to vote for some Giants, but I couldnt say there was a single one who was the best at his position
Sandoval in the NL can make that argument, despite missing half the season thus far.
Look at the accumulated WAR totals, and realize there’s a chunk of time left before the ASG. shrug.
that wouldn’t work. Tehada has a platoon split, but it’s only for pitchers with no arms.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
oops, reply fail. point stands, however.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Migsucky rakes off the tee!
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of All-Star team voting
If the All-Star game was played this weekend, I think Ryan Vogelsong deserves to be on the team. Although he’d probably go all Atlee Hammaker in the game, he would deserve the spot nonetheless.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
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Speaking of All-Star team voting
If the All-Star game was played this weekend, I think Ryan Vogelsong deserves to be on the team. Although he’d probably go all Atlee Hammaker in the game, he would deserve the spot nonetheless.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
Not really
But now that we have position players that can get there based off of merit I care a bit more
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I do!
Not in the same way I care about the day-to-day box scores of regular season MLB, and not even approaching the day in day out trials and tribulations of the Giants…but, as far as a spectacle goes…I like it.
It’s the best of the “all-star” games across the professional sports world – though my MLB-first attitude likely colors that. I did attend the 2000 NBA All Star game just for kicks.
I like it – 9 innings, interesting match-ups, every pitch/play a bit magnified. I went to the ’07 ASG here in SF, and will be headed to PHX for this year.
That said: I’d like to take the WS home field advantage clause and stuff it in Mrs. Selig’s purse for all eternity.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Was a nice thing to have for the Giants last year
though they didn’t need it. ;-)
Get well soon, Buster.
I dunno....
Watching Game 1 of the WS last year, the Giants hung in there in a very difficult game. Ditto with Game 2 for the most part (cue Texas Walk’em Rangers) and I think the Giants were very lucky to have those 2 games at home.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I still kinda wish it was a best of five,
with pitchers going 5 or 6 innings instead of tagging out every seven batters.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I’m looking forward to the HR Derby in ARI.
Should hopefully be some 550’ shots
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I really don’t care about it.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
I like the ASG
It’s not like the playoffs, but it’s a fun spectacle to see the top pitchers take on the other league’s top hitters. Of the major American sports, MLB definitely has the best all-star game. The NBA game is OK, the NHL game is silly but sort of fun if you don’t like defense, and the Pro Bowl is a twisted joke that needs to be killed off five years ago.
I wonder how long vogelsong is going to pitch like this
His story really is incredible…If he somehow keeps his ERA under 2 for the whole season he will be up there for a Cy Young vote. Not that I think this will happen, but it would be incredible
Since I'm just now starting to believe
He will get shelled tonight.
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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I fear that he’s given up almost no runs. There’s gotta be some regression. Just hoping it waits for another day.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
If he somehow maintains this thru to the ASB
I hope Sabean considers moving him for a coupla prospects.
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I doubt we’ll get much for him, but calbearjd would violently disagree with me.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
you're probably right
but if there were a contender who was desperate for an arm, you know, I hope Sabes would pick up the phone.
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I view him as an NL-only guy; I just don’t think anyone in the AL would have interest that would give us a worthwhile return. But yeah, an NL fringe contender that’s desperate for pitching could give up a couple of middling prospects for him, maybe. I won’t rule it out, certainly.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
The Marlins could really use a 5th starter.
And they seem to be contendingish…. And they have some offensive depth….
Dunno. Worth a thought?
Vogelsong can be kept for cheap, Vasquez is a wreck, and they’re constantly up to their neck in prospects.
It’s possible.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
I'd pull the trigger on that.
Wild Card isn’t coming out of the west, so no real danger of feeding players to the East. Drop off from Vogelsong to Zito the rest of the way is easily made up by any return we’d get, I’d say.
the return wouldn’t be ML-ready, I’d imagine. Vogelsong isn’t worth a ML starting player, but he’s worth spades to the Giants.
We’d be midding at .500 if not for him- they’ve won every start of his except the FLA game last week, while you just know if Zito is pitching, we lose quite a few of those games Ryan has won for us.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The fact that he's pitched well is why I'd be willing to deal him.
Going forwards, he’s not likely to be much better than Zito, I’d wager, though he has much, much, much, much more value in a trade.
Phils and Braves both look so strong
Not saying the Marlins couldn’t do it, but man, that’s a damn tough division.
I think 2012 might be the year of the Fish.
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> I think 2012 might be the year of the Fish.
They are about due for one of those damn runs.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
without Posey, we can’t compete with the Braves, Phils, Marlins, in the playoffs if it comes to that.
Our hope is that the WC comes from the Central (Brewers, Reds or Cards), so we don’t face any NL East teams in the first round. That gives us a chance to make i to the NLCS where we would probably be pummeled.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Anything can happen in a five game series. Especially with good pitching.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
truf
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I always make fun of
suggestions that the Yankees are interested in Barry Zito.
They might well be interested in Vogelsong. If they don’t tank all of a sudden before the deadline.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
That's also who I thought of.
Marlins or Yankees seemed to be the most likely trade partners.
The BB Gods need to throw the Giants a bone, what with all the injuries so far. A solid year from Vogelsong would be quite nice, especially if it keeps Zito “rehabbing”
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
they allowed kruk to be honest?
holy crap….pigs just flew out of my butt
on the radio. on the broadcast, it’s a whole other story.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
ive heard other interviews with him
he pretty much loves blowing smoke up veteran butt
me thinks he has been givin the ok to destroy miggs
which i am fine with
grant...how does anyone make a prediction based on eastern league stats?
its an extreme pitchers league
crawford has a history of injuries in the minors…..and he finally feels good
his stroke looks good…he is seeing pitches…and the league has no book on him
is it not possible that he could hit 250?
and hes a smart kid….maybe he will quickly adjust when they do find his holes
Not sure if this has been posted but...
@mccoveychron
McCovey Chronicles
Organizational Metaphor Of The Year — The Dodgers season summed up in a single .gif. http://sbn.to/ivSJMc
"For science. You monster."
by KINGofCRA5H on May 31, 2011 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It’s hard not to laugh at this, as I sort of feel bad. I guess that’s why it’s the perfect metaphor for the Dodgers.
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
by rotorueter on May 31, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Old proverb
A dropped foul ball is worth more than your own flesh and blood
-unknown
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Holy Shit
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
by GiantPain on May 31, 2011 2:07 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
So fucking glad he's out of our division.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
by Solidarity on May 31, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's incredible.
Hand-eye coordination out his ass.
They are kidding when they say
velocity doesnt matter, MLB hitters can square anything up
"For science. You monster."
Seriously
That is ridiculously impressive.
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
That’s pretty awesome.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
extrabaggs Andrew Baggarly
Sandoval excited after first BP on field in a month. Said no pain in surgery area. Just tight tendons.
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
will this push off the rehab starts?
and is there anything to bochy’s comments on pablo gaining weight?
Apropos of nothing
Holy crap, Pedro Feliz’s 2003 slash line: .247/.278/.515
Eat your heart out Alfonso Soriano.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I just want fun games to watch.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
I only have fun when the Giants win, goddammit
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
sat...can you photoshop bartolo colon
into jabba the hutt?
Dude.
Jabba the Hutt died a long, long time ago.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
LOL Grant
mccoveychron McCovey Chronicles
@
He should blow on the mental cartridge RT @extrabaggs Bochy says he may give Huff more than one day to try to hit the mental reset button.
I was just talking about this phenomenon with a friend of mine the other day. IT WORKED EVERY TIME.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is his year.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
sl
In the end, America will be remembered for three things: the Bill of Rights, jazz, and baseball.
Proud parent of Javier Lopez: southpaw, poltergeist, haunter of dreams.
/breaks down crying.
NOOOOOOOO.
I’m…
I’m…..
I’m old.
Stupid blinking red light!
I need to play Super Mario Bros, dammit!
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Boch is just saying whatever will placate his vets
while finding ways to keep Belt in the lineup. I know you all think that’s impossible, but I want to believe.
Get well soon, Buster.
My two cents worth
My anger would be a 9/10. It’s not that I think Crawford is the second coming offensively of Rich Aurilia (the good years) with plus defense, but because a) ima sucker for local boy does good sports stories, and b) Miguel Tejada. That man has caused me to think of these guys as little leaguers and maybe contemplate hurting my tv more times this season than any player not named Armando or AJ. As is constantly pointed out, sunk cost is sunk cost and this waste of space is utterly useless. When Pablo comes back, I’m not upset about the thought of fontenot at short and Crawford at third when a day off is needed. Fuck Miguel Tejada, let him ride off into the sunset, or shoot him out of a cannon into it. I don’t give a shit.
Suck it Mat Latos rolls of the tongue so nicely
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by Cant_buy_a_run on May 31, 2011 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Shift A (i.e. I apologize if this has been said above)
Two comments:
1) Brandon Crawford actually did hit pretty well at A+
2) Baggs keeps making obtuse Spiderman references to the notion that Miggy is going to be gone pretty soon. I paid it no heed until hearing Krukow this morning on the radio. He utterly kneecapped Tejada which is something I never recall him doing ever. Regardless, these two scientific facts lead me to believe that we will not have Miggy to kick around for much longer.
please remember that "A+" in this case = Cal League
Notorious for its hitters’ parks.
not sayin/just sayin
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we should also note that the eastern league is an extreme pitchers league
and his worst performance came in connecticut
WWRWD?
I don't recall
K & K throwing a player under the bus before either. Guillen? I dunno.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS THREAD =
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
Bengie Moreleaner
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
Depressing image of the day - from sfgiants.com
I’m assuming no one else plays regularly enough to qualify?
Carter Jurica!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry
by GrahamCrakalaka on May 31, 2011 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Correct.
I think only Tejada is qualified.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
oh my god.
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
What????????
Is Tejada next on the list??
by Drug Runner SF on May 31, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
After Tejada....
I think Mendoza himself is next.
by Drug Runner SF on May 31, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
i wish i could anti-rec this
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Sad on a few different levels
Aside from the obvious, just shows how plagued with injuries this team has been
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there one for Slugging Percentage?
Because I think Sanchez might grab 3rd with his 2 doubles.
by Drug Runner SF on May 31, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
McC Inception
Great lineup. I have the feeling that McC used inception to place lineup thoughts in Bruce Bochy’s big brain.
this red sox/giants voting thing
I thought it was just some dumb fan thing? it appears dumb enough for the marketing department to at least glom on, eh?
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Your mom's a girl
I feel bad because
the only Giants I want to vote for are pitchers and of course for whatever stupid reason, fans don’t get to vote for pitchers.
Why don’t fans get to vote for pitchers, anyway?!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Fans don't understand
The subtlety of a pitcher battling it out and pitching to the score. They can just look at the RBI totals to know if a hitter is good.
There is that handy W-L stat for pitchers, though.
by in play, run(s) on May 31, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hello nemesis….today we do battle.
Suck it Mat Latos rolls of the tongue so nicely
Some people say Chuck Norris can throw a 100 mph fastball. I can throw Chuck Norris 100 mph. FACT ~ Brian Wilson
Bork Bork Bork Bork Bork. Grumble Bork Grumble Grumble. - Translated Gritty Gamers are Gritty and Gamerly.
by Cant_buy_a_run on May 31, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Pablo batting practive video
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=Ty0LMnyngVJioAGmgTpkZ2GI_jR71i1E
with Bochy riding his ass.
Looks awesome!
He grew the hair out =P
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
He took the third pitch!
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that’s the first time I’ve seen baseball bp at any level thrown underhand.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
most of the comments suck anyway
like this one.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
are we cranky today? haha
Suck it Mat Latos rolls of the tongue so nicely
Some people say Chuck Norris can throw a 100 mph fastball. I can throw Chuck Norris 100 mph. FACT ~ Brian Wilson
Bork Bork Bork Bork Bork. Grumble Bork Grumble Grumble. - Translated Gritty Gamers are Gritty and Gamerly.
by Cant_buy_a_run on May 31, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant mine, just kidding around
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The real topic is not whether Crawford will sit for Tejada.
Crawford’s defense at SS is such a clearcut advantage over anyone else on the roster, unless he completely craters, he needs to play short. The real topic here is what happens when Fontenot comes back.
When Pablo comes back, Tejada is the utility guy and Burriss will be optioned to AAA. That much is certain to me. That only delays the inevitable, though. Fontenot is not seriously injured, and will be back very soon after Pablo is activated.
How much will you rage when Brandon Belt is optioned to AAA so that Tejada can keep his spot on this roster?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
https://twitter.com/#!/BASEBAAL_GOD
Billy Hayes: His job is better than yours.
@productiveouts | Productive Outs
It might be worth it to use the GCD for bloodrage then
and don’t heroic strike
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I was hoping at least one person would get that <.<
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
My first thought was actually...
‘Eh, isn’t bloodrage off the gcd?’
But then I remembered they changed it.
I hate fucking noob tanks that macros HS
then complains OH SHIT OUT OF RAGE
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Mmn.
I play a mage these days, just don’t have the free time to do anything but raid and log off. Makes me sad.
I stopped playing during lich king =/
Sadness. Pre nerf Muru / KJ though.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
9/10, The rage factor I stated above will remain, but mostly because of reason B.
Suck it Mat Latos rolls of the tongue so nicely
Some people say Chuck Norris can throw a 100 mph fastball. I can throw Chuck Norris 100 mph. FACT ~ Brian Wilson
Bork Bork Bork Bork Bork. Grumble Bork Grumble Grumble. - Translated Gritty Gamers are Gritty and Gamerly.
by Cant_buy_a_run on May 31, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I won't.
If he’s not starting every day, he shouldn’t be up here in the first place.
Adoptive father of Jose Casilla.
Belt really needs to come up big today.
If he’s not driving in runs, he at least needs to be a rally starter/sustainer.
So basically he needs to not make outs.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
I dropped him from my fantasy team, so he’s sure to do well now.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on May 31, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Roll the dice with Crawford.
When I go to Vegas and play Roulette, I might win. Big. I may lose. Big, as well. But you never know and I’m paying for that fraction of an instant that could spell the difference between being Donald Trump or Slappy the Walmart greeter. The great as-yet-unknown.
Playing Tejada is like putting a dollar in a change machine. You know what you’re going to get. Unless the machine eats your dollar. What never, ever happens is that, on the basis of your dollar, piles of money come pouring out of the machine. The best, the very best you could hope for is to break even.
That hasn’t happened – the fucking machine has been lunching up on my dollars all season.
Roulette Crawford, please.
tejada is the vacuum machine at the car wash that has no suction
but plenty o suck ass
Trade Sabean/jk...Overthrow the Ydorks...
Crawford = Roulette in Vegas
Tejada = Roulette in Moscow
by MySpoonlsTooBig on May 31, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Burrell = Roulette up Skirt
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I know what you’re thinking. “Did he fire six shots or only five?” Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is Pat Fucking Burrell, the most powerful bat in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"
This is what came to mind with Pat and Roulette. Don’t ask.
Pujols at 3rd!!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I hope Tejada doesn’t read the McC. He’s a washed up player, but he’s not a bad human being. He’s going through something that happens to everyone eventually. Not that I want him playing, but I do feel some compassion for the guy.
Get well soon, Buster.
by Tortured on May 31, 2011 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Considering that he has so little self-awareness that he continues to “spotlight” his 12-hop singles and wave his arms when he blasts pop-ups to deep shortstop, I doubt it will have any effect.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
The spotlight thing would be bad enough on its own
But it also brings to mind the “claw” that the Rangers did during the World Series. (Well, they did it once or twice, anyway—they didn’t have much of an opportunity to use it, did they?)
That makes it a firing offense.
by Here Be Giants on May 31, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
But it's like Miggy doesn't realize that he isn't on the Padres anymore
The Giants don’t do that kind of shit on the field. The ONLY exception I can think of is Huff’s phantom slap-on-the-ass after he hit a double late last year. Otherwise, this team was devoid of any self-congratulatory ceremonies… one more reason to love the team and hate Tejada, who doesn’t seem to get it
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Huff and Burrell hitting each other, general dugout antics...
It’s not like we’re the Yankees, White Sox, or other crew of Spartans. Just because it’s not common doesn’t mean it’s verbotten.
one morereasonexcuse to love the team and hate Tejada, who doesn’t seem to get it
You keep calling in Affeldt. I don't think that means what you think it means.
Huff and Burrell are college buddies
Surely they have some rituals, but they don’t drag them out into the middle of the field when they perform routine tasks.
It’s like Tejada saw the World Series last year and thinks it was the Giants who did the whole claw/antlers thing the Rangers did. Maybe someone just needs to pull him aside and say ’Hey Miggy, knock that crap off until you get to .250"
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Not only is it not true that Giants don’t have celebratory gestures (Romo, Wilson, Ross, etc), but this is just such a trivial thing to hold against him.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I thought it looked pretty dumb most of the time
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
> tri-state killing spree.
So, what you’re saying is we should trade him to the tri-state area?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on May 31, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope he would understand that fans are expressing frustration over his lack of performance, and that somewhere over the past decade he’s developed the tools necessary to cope with that part of being a professional athlete.
Of course, there are some who seriously remark on his character and worth as a human, which I think is out of line.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
aside from his mediocre play, i've got no problem with the guy...
I don’t even really mind all his goofy antics during the game, like that spotlight thing he does or his excitability during routine plays.
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on May 31, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's a comment from Baggs' blog last night.
I’d virtually rather have a dead whale carcass at SS than Tejada. Just remember it’s like the ugly girl who is standing next to a hideous girl…at that time she doesn’t look so bad.
Not that I doubt you, but that doesn’t sound like him. Tacky.
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
It was a comment on his blog, not Baggs himself, unless I’m understanding this wrong.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is his year.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on May 31, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
you did..,
Brian Wilson: "Don't Quote Me"
Buster Posey: "I Ain't Havin' It"
Pat Burrell: "The Patural"
Aubrey Huff: "Let's Get Weird"
by slackersphere17 on May 31, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
NL All-Star team based on rWAR (McCann replaces Posey)
C: Yadier Molina, St. Louis (1.5)
1B: Joey Votto, Cincinnati (2.6)
2B: Neil Walker, Pittsburgh (1.4)
3B: Pablo Sandoval, San Francisco (1.6)
SS: Jose Reyes, New York (1.7)
LF: Ryan Braun, Milwaukee (2.9)
CF: Andrew McCutchen, Pittsburgh (2.3)
RF: Matt Kemp, Los Angeles (2.5)
DH: Lance Berkman, St. Louis (2.2)
C: Buster Posey, San Francisco (1.5)
C: Wilson Ramos, Washington (1.0)
C: Brian McCann, Atlanta (1.3)
1B: Gaby Sanchez, Florida (2.3)
1B: Prince Fielder, Milwaukee (1.8)
1B: Ike Davis, New York (1.4)
2B: Rickie Weeks, Milwaukee (1.4)
SS: Troy Tulowitzki, Colorado (1.7)
SS: Alex Gonzalez, Atlanta (1.6)
3B: Ryan Roberts, Arizona (1.5)
OF: Carlos Beltran, New York (2.0)
OF: Matt Holliday, St. Louis (2.0)
OF: Kosuke Fukudome, Chicago (1.8)
OF: Mike Stanton, Florida (1.7)
OF: Colby Rasmus, St. Louis (1.6)
OF: Hunter Pence, Houston (1.3)
SP: Roy Halladay, Philadelphia (3.6)
SP: Clayton Kershaw, Los Angeles (2.8)
SP: Kyle Lohse, St. Louis (2.8)
SP: Jair Jurrjens, Atlanta (2.6)
SP: Cole Hamels, Philadelphia (2.4)
SP: Josh Johnson, Florida (2.3)
SP: Tim Lincecum, San Francisco (2.2)
SP: Ian Kennedy, Arizona (2.1)
SP: Cliff Lee, Philadelphia (1.9)
RP: Jonny Venters, Atlanta (2.1)
RP: Francisco Rodriguez, New York (1.5)
RP: Matt Lindstrom, Colorado (1.3)
RP: Ryan Madson, Philadelphia (1.3)
RP: Carlos Marmol, Chicago (1.3)
RP: Francisco Cordero, Cincinnati (1.1)
RP: Eric O’Flaherty, Atlanta (1.1)
RP: Mike Adams, San Diego (1.0)
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Only 0.9 WAR.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I assume McCann’s name is italicized because he’s the bestest baseball player ever.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Only 1.1 WAR; cutoff was 1.4.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
He's not using fangraphs' WAR.
Lot of the numbers would be different.
Two. fWAR is by Fangraphs, and rWAR is on Baseball-Reference. I used rWAR here. fWAR has a lower replacement level, so fWAR tends to be higher than rWAR.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I know fWAR uses FIP for pitchers, but how is rWAR calculated for pitching?
Also… defense?! What the hell. Freddy and Torres have negative rWARs for defense, but Burrell and Tejada are positive. That’s some crazy shit right there.
It uses Runs Allowed, plus some adjustments I believe.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is his year.
Co-dad of Ryan Scoma with waelwulf, because we're progressive like that.
by free f.p. #14 on May 31, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
There are many
You could even generate your own!
Or use the two mentioned.
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Hello lunatic fringers!
I hope everything has been copacetic in my little timeout from McCovey Chron. In completely unrelated news, I finished my novel. I’m looking for 2-3 readers who would be able to give me feedback within a month.
Also, Tejada must go.
Fostering Ryan Rohlinger in the Eyrie
I'd like to read it, after graduation (2 weeks away)
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
I'd even BUY your novel if you could sneak in McC callouts
- Like have four chapters start with SIRM
- Character names that are anagrams for Giants prospects (Brandon Frawcord, Thomas Nale, stuff like that)
- Get the pew-pew girl in somewhere
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Brant Grisbee and the rats of NIMH?
Didn’t they already make a movie about that?
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
Congrats!
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on May 31, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have been more than happy to help, but I can’t commit to the timeline. The next month sadly be way too busy for me to take on novel feedback.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
In part because I’m already doing this for a different novel.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if enough people find the timeline a crunch,
I won’t insist on a month. Summer reading?
Fostering Ryan Rohlinger in the Eyrie
I could definitely help out given the summer.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt I can tell the difference
between a hot streak and slump for Tejada.
When weakly hit ground balls find a hole...
In back to back games.
That’s a hot streak.
When he hits popups to 2B
rather than GIDP,
That’s a hot streak
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Inigo Montoya
A hot steak reaches 145 degrees in the center
Oh.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Shift-A:
Crawford is white?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Brown is the new White
Mind Blown
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
BEAT LA!
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
it's a girl!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
nooo! by choice?
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Grats!
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
yay!!
Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.
Shift-A
Good news for you people who don’t live in the Bay Area and might not have MLB.tv or the Extra Innings package is that this game will be on ESPN.
Bad news: ESPN is broadcasting this game and Chris Berman will be the announcer.
hankschulman Henry Schulman
Cards scratched Holliday. Craig to play left field.
No truth to the rumor that he’s getting a tetanus shot
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
RYAN LEAF IS HERPES?
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Isn’t he retired?
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on May 31, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yes.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
The KLAW speaks the truth.
keithlaw keithlaw
+1 female follower > +1 male RT @Mike27x: @keithlaw I appreciate sarcasm and my wife has agreed to follow you to make up for your loss.
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The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Shift-A:
Furious.
While I think it likely that the man is well over his head right now, none of his hits look flukey or dinky, so who can be sure? And his fielding seems as solid as advertised.
At this point, the starting shortstop position should be his to lose (and lose convincingly).
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
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