Gary Brown or Tyler Graham

by TheFreakSFG on May 30, 2011 8:32 PM PDT

After hearing someone saying that Brown is a "Poor man's Tyler Graham" I wanted to find out what people on here thought. Just a quick observation, and my opinion:

Tyler Graham was drafted in 2005... finally posted a good line in Fresno just last season... also has never played a full season. If I were to compare Graham to anyone, it would be Darren Ford, with less speed.

Graham hit .340, but had a total 2 HR's, 25 XBH, and a .097 isolated power. Brown, in his first professional season, is hitting .369 w/ a .170 isolated power, and 28 stolen bases (Graham- 22).

Brown is on pace for 50 XBH- realistically, he'll be around 35-40. Graham is currently hitting .261 w/ 7 XBH.

Projections are hard to judge by, but clearly, Brown has more upside, hitting the way he is in his first professional season.

Just my opinion from what I've seen, feel free to comment. I could be completely wrong, just let me know- no hard feelings.

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Who has better for the upside for the future?

Gary Brown

263 votes

Tyler Graham

3 votes

Both the next Darren Ford

8 votes

274 votes | Poll has closed

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whoever said that was surely joking

Gary Brown is an excellent prospect, he can really hit and projects as a legitimate lead off hitter and center fielder. At this point nobody would argue that he is the #3 prospect in the Giants system. Tyler Graham is not a prospect at all.

by FluLikeSymptoms on May 30, 2011 9:00 PM PDT reply actions

I’ll go with the guy that isn’t 27 and still in AAA.

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by xanthan on May 30, 2011 9:09 PM PDT reply actions

Ageist!!!!

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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 4:35 AM PDT up reply actions

zing!

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by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions

I like Tyler Graham...

…but who the heck said that, and where, so I can get some context and immediately take away his credibility?

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by BruteSentiment on May 30, 2011 9:28 PM PDT reply actions

you like him?

I mean, as a whateverth-rounder who’s finally having a good year with the bat in the PCL, sure. But.. I mean.. yeah.

by wcw on May 30, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Never listen to that person again.

by Dan from NM on May 30, 2011 9:59 PM PDT reply actions

As a Fresno native

I had the opportunity to see Tyler Graham more than a few times in 2010. He played well, but I knew he wasn’t much more than an organizational soldier. Saw him again last week and he really struggled against a middling pitcher from New Orleans. He came down to earth.

I also can’t wait for Gary Brown to get here, so I’m with everyone else in this discussion.

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by OnDeck_Matt on May 30, 2011 10:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

As a Fresno native

I also can’t wait for Gary Brown to get here, so I’m with everyone else in this discussion.

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by OnDeck_Matt on May 30, 2011 10:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

Um, who the hell said that?

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by jponry on May 30, 2011 11:07 PM PDT reply actions

Tyler Graham’s mom?

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 6:59 AM PDT up reply actions

What?

There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.

by Unitard on May 30, 2011 11:09 PM PDT reply actions

My impression is that everyone on here now pimps the living hell out of Brown, even though many were sour the Giants picked him.

by Sabean_Is_Iago on May 30, 2011 11:13 PM PDT reply actions

Well not everyone. Draft day panic is really dumb. I still remember a bunch of people hating on Posey and calling Posey’s swing ugly.

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by Unitard on May 30, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Irrrational freakouts over perfectly good draft picks is part of what makes McCovey Chronicles what it is. People around here didn’t like the Lincecum, Bumgarner, or Posey picks. If a pick was universally praised here that would make me very worried about the pick

by FluLikeSymptoms on May 31, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions

But, but,

We could have drafted Beau Mills! Beau Mills, dude!

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by Fla-Giant on May 31, 2011 6:31 AM PDT up reply actions

Man, I was pushing hard for Mills that year

with all my inside connections in the Giants draft room.

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by foothillsfan on May 31, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I stopped questioning our draft picks after that year. Man did I look stupid. Also, WTF Rays?

by boonitez on May 31, 2011 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions

Tim Beckham’s actually starting to figure it out a little.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on May 31, 2011 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions

I always get him confused with Gordon Beckham.

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by El Person on May 31, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions

He’s the one without stupid hair.

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by xanthan on May 31, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions

A little bit, not a lot. And there’s also a question as to whether or not he can stick at SS.

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by Roger on May 31, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Keith Law made it sound like he’s looking good at SS on twitter yesterday.

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on May 31, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions

That may be

But it still looks much, much worse than any of the four picks below him. Were they just trying to save money or was it that they thought Posey’s asking price would be too high?

by boonitez on May 31, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions

I said Posey’s swing looked long, but it came with a disclaimer that I know nothing about what swings look like.

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by howtheyscored on May 31, 2011 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions

Posey’s swing looked like a hippopotamus!

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by giantsfansince1981 on May 31, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions

I like him

And I"m still pissed the Giants used their pick on him. He’s really calmed down the lower half of his body with regards to his swing, but I don’t think many questioned his upside when he was drafted, it was more that he had a lot of question marks for someone drafted so high.

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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions

I want Bowker Back

The pirates are wasting him in triple A. Huff is making eleven million to hit worse
than Bowker would hit this year in the majors. We have Travis Ishikawa and Brett
Pill ready and able.

by bradleybear on May 31, 2011 12:21 AM PDT reply actions

The poll seems kinda silly. You could pretty much guarantee everyone is going to vote Brown

And yup, currently 95% of the votes have gone his way.

Really though, thats a good thing, as he is having a really great season so far. Hoping his performance is for real and he’ll be replacing Torres and Scott in center within a couple years!

Its funny because f*** the dodgers

by kvdp12 on May 31, 2011 4:00 AM PDT reply actions

First off, you have to stop eavesdropping on Joe Biden’s conversations. Secondly, what the hell was Joe Biden doing in Fresno?

Whoever said that doesn’t know the meaning of the “a poor man’s” term. Gary Brown was a first round draft pick that signed for around $1.4M. He’s the “rich man” in the comparison since more was/is expected of him, and he got the big bucks. Now, if he/she had said that Tyler Graham was a poor man’s Gary Brown then you would know you were listening to somebody that had a modicum of sense.

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by Fla-Giant on May 31, 2011 6:37 AM PDT reply actions

tune in for the next poll

Wheeler: A Poor Man’s Geno Espineli?

May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.

"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased

Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.

by natteringnabob on May 31, 2011 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions

re: Biden

rude

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on May 31, 2011 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions

I suppose I could have used somebody on the ESPN baseball staff, but I didn’t think that they would capture the same universal appeal. I don’t think that it’s a political statement to acknowledge that Biden has a hilarious tendency to put his foot in his mouth.

"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner

Keep an eye on my son, Jake "The Jacksonville Rifle" Dunning. From SS to the mound - exclusively toeing the rubber since March 2010.

by Fla-Giant on May 31, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions

I’m just making a joke about my alleged affinity for Joe Biden. :p

Matt Cain: He'll save children, but not the Dodger children.
I call him gerald. he’s a pristine white handkerchief, though? nediB eoJ Joe Biden ‽ Joe Biden.

by jponry on May 31, 2011 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions

This

Also, for the next poll I think it should come down to Brandon Crawford and Ryan Rohlinger, wait, what’s that you say….too late.

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by Giant Torture on May 31, 2011 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions

Gary UPS Brown

He delivers.

What can Brown do for you?

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by jctGamer on May 31, 2011 8:34 AM PDT reply actions