Crazy Idea: Hanley Ramirez
by bayhey on May 24, 2011 3:16 PM PDT
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PrintI know, it's crazy right. Why would the Marlins even think about trading Ramirez, especially with his production at an all-time low. BUT, do you think they would go for a package like this:
Ehire Adrianza, Emmanuel Burriss, Zack Wheeler, Thomas Neal, and Tommy Joseph
I'm thinking we may need to add more -- maybe another pitcher, say, Dan Runzler. The bottom line is that package is a pretty nice one. The question is whether it's "nice" enough to get Hanley.
Just thinking out loud here guys.....
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heh
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on May 24, 2011 3:21 PM PDT reply actions
This
Obviously he has the same dealer as Brian Sabean, lunatic fringe indeed!
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on May 25, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
No
The Marlins know he is good and also know that those guys are are not (with the exception of Wheeler).
For the thirteen time in 3 or one evers, I found myself toothlessly thinking about Manny Ramirez.
In reality
A package of MadBum, Wheeler, and Brown might keep the Marlins on the phone.
For the thirteen time in 3 or one evers, I found myself toothlessly thinking about Manny Ramirez.
Seriously?
Should we throw in Tejada and Rowand as well?
Jonathan Sanchez. He's left-handed, like Barry Zito. His fastball breaks 80, unlike Zito.
Tejada, Rowand, Zito for Hanley
Maybe throw in Mark DeRosa.
Section 314 FTW!
by KingofDucks1987 on May 24, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions
You arm-twister you.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 24, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You just aggravated DeRosa's injury
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
All of 'em?
The meter, she is pegged.
"The two worst things in football are: 1) They think that a 30-year old professional athlete has to be locked up in a hotel room, with a curfew, the night before a qame; and 2) They're right."
- Cowboy safety Cliff Harris
by achiappanza on May 25, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
This reminds me of every third caller on the old Pete Franklin show on KNBR.
Hitting 74 on the radar gun but hitting my spots.
by VidaWantsYourCar on May 24, 2011 4:02 PM PDT reply actions
ugh Pete Franklin
In Cleveland, he’s the one who came up with the idea for “hate the Yankees hankies,” that the fans would wave at the game. Then he gets a job with WFAN in New York, and comes in here and roots for the Yankees! Give NY fans some credit, they didn’t accept this phony and he was quickly driven out of town.
Buster Posey: Let's enjoy him before he goes to the Yankees because he wants to win the World Series. Wait, what???
Crazy Idea
- A blimp composed entirely of sausage
Ask me about my blog.
by xanthan on May 24, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
If you were flying in a blimp made entirely of sausage, would you eat it?
I know I would!
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Can I see that in graph form?
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on May 25, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Whenever I think of potential deals, I always ask “would I make this trade if I were the other team?”
So…if you were the Marlins, would you take this offer seriously and would you pull the trigger? The way I see it, I wouldn’t- Hanley generates revenue, he’s a damn good player still with upside and is under contract for a few more years. To trade him for two middle infielders with little hitting ability, an outfielder that might not be more than a backup, a questionable catcher and ONE blue chipper isn’t enough. The centerpiece of the deal is Wheeler, and he’s far away from the Majors. The guys you’re surrounding him with just aren’t very exciting.
I usually go with the opposite approach
Would I accept the deal if I were the Giants? If yes, then I’ve probably come up with a crappy deal for the other team.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
by marcello on May 24, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The quincy award goes to.....
JT Jordan
For giving an honest response to a stupid question.
I still believe in Santa Clause and Bowkermania!
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on May 25, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I have an award named after me!
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
Exactly
The new stadium is going to bump payroll to the $70M range I’d guess, and with Ramirez, Stanton, Morrison, Coghlan, Johnson, Anibal and Gaby Sanchez, Nolasco, and Matt Dominguez on the way probably sometime this year, they should be able to compete this year and probably for the next several as they’ll have the money now to not only actually retain some players but add FA pieces. Florida’s front office was dangerous with a $25M payroll; I’m terrified of what happens with three times that and a top two SS (I say only Tulowitzki is better) in a game that has very few All-Star candidates at that position.
Their biggest weakness is the pitching, and would ya lookit that, there’s plenty of pitching to be found. Florida trading Ramirez would be incredibly stupid and they’re not doing it for less than a package starting with Bumgarner+Wheeler+Brown and going from there.
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
it's going to be very interesting
to test the assumption that Floridians will prefer to sit outside and sweat in a new stadium rather than a football stadium.
Cincy, Pitt, and nowadays Baltimore have shown that the shiny doesn’t keep pulling them in.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 26, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It's got a retractable roof
Tampa’s stadium is quite comfortable, the people just aren’t into it and the stadium is kind of a craphole in a bad location otherwise. With the in-city stadium I think the Marlins will do better and the roof will prevent temperature issues.
The other conclusion that will be tested is the possibility that people in Florida just don’t particularly like baseball; with the new stadium and the winning team there’ll be just about no reason not to go.
Seth Rosin can hit the side of a barn with a baseball. From space.
Giants baseball: We're stupid enough to WIN that (TM)
one
cut a hole in the box.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
Bandwagons are fun- that's why people get on them in the first place.
by natteringnabob on May 24, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh...
He’s their franchise. I doubt the Marlins would even consider a trade. Cabrera and Gonzalez were different scenarios.
I think, to do this, you need to:
Trade Matt Cain to the Yankees for a good bushel of their prospects.
Take on Aaron Rowand and Aubrey Huff’s complete salaries to go get a few more prospects.
Combine the Yankee bushel and the Rowand/Huff bag with Wheeler, Neal, Adrianza, and Gary Brown as a PTBNL, and I think the Marlins bite.
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Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
New rule guys
No more speculating on shortstops of teams we’re playing this week.
Oh, and for what it’s worth, getting Ramirez takes Belt, Wheeler, and Sanchez just to START conversations.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Who would play 2B if we traded Sanchez?
CALL UP B.BOND!!!!
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
lololololol
Seriously though I’d assume the package would have to start with Belt and Wheeler.
"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller
It's Posey time!!
My Adopted Giant: Heath Hembree
If Florida decided to let him go,
There is no way in hell that would be the top package.
Yuo’d have to offer Belt, Wheeler, Sandoval or something like that.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
Even if you beef up the offer...
…why would the Marlins, who’d be in the playoffs if the season ended today, want to trade a franchise player for a bunch of prospects? They’ve gotta be thinking about contending now, while they have Ramirez and Nolasco and Johnson under contract, not looking 2-3 years ahead.
"If it's weird, you know it's probably Wilson's." - Matt Cain
…why would the Marlins, who’d be in the playoffs if the season ended today, want to trade a franchise player for a bunch of prospects?
Yeah wait till after they beat the Giants in the 2011 NLCS and go on to spank the Rays in the WS—then, they’d probably go for it. And Adrianza would turn into Ozzy Smith, Neal would be come Matt Holliday and Wheeler would be a left handed Tim Lincecum, then in 5 years they would win the WS again, after sweeping the Giants in the NLDS and the cycle would repeat itself ad infinitum.
Relief! I Thank you for your Lefferts.
by Cody_ransom on May 25, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Wheeler would be a left handed Tim Lincecum
Wheeler’s a righty. Of course, that just makes your angst and pessimism that much more poignant.
Hector Sanchez: Suck it Russell Nathan Coltrane Jeanson Martin.
i liked this
until the left handed tim lincecum part
by Puster Bosey on May 25, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
What I love about this site
There is a razor thin line between “OMG the (insert team we would be trading with) would laugh, hang up the phone and kick your dog.” and “Are you kidding? Have you seen (insert player we would be trading for) day/night WAR splits? The guy makes way too much, would cost us picks in FA, etc…”
In this case, it’s fairly obvious the Marlins would be kicking our dogs, but I feel like adding actual good and valuable prospects (Belt, Brown, etc.) would simply push the group to the WAR splits side.
Here's to the Dodgers and their bucket of suck.
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