Giants/Pirates Series Preview
I have a soft spot for the Royals for some reason. I like the ballpark. I remember the exciting teams from the ‘80s with Brett, White, and Washington. Their uniforms are classic and the correct shade of blue. And, of course, I like to pull for the teams that go a few decades between winning seasons.
Here’s the thing, though: the Royals generally don’t help the Giants. The players that pass through Kansas City are players like Neifi Perez, Michael Tucker, and Jose Guillen -- players that go out of their way to not help the Giants. You have to go back to Atlee Hammaker to get some help from the Royals, and even that came with a fair amount of heartbreak. So while I like the concept of the Royals, they don’t like me.
The Pirates, though, are a-ok.
Back in 1992, someone with a fancy suit said, "$7M a year? For one player? Oh, no thanks. Best of luck." And that player formed the bulk of my baseball memories for a decade-plus.
Then the Pirates had this erratic starting pitcher that they wanted to get rid of because he was going to get expensive. The Giants gave up a brittle outfielder and a brittle pitcher, taught the pitcher a changeup, and enjoyed a true ace for the first time in years. Then, because they’re complete jerks, the Giants got the brittle pitcher back ten years later, just to prove a point or something.
The best gift from Pittsburgh, though, was a reliever they signed for less than $1M. The Giants gave up a quasi-promising outfielder and a spot starter, and they were rewarded with 24-2/3 innings of some of the best relief innings in team history. Small sample size? Well, sure. That doesn’t take away the gift of Javier Lopez, a magic trick that somehow turned John Bowker into a parade.
So the Pirates are cool in my book. Not cool enough to root for, but cool enough to feel guilty when the Giants keep ransacking their organization. And, hey, now the Giants need to beat them to get over a brutal sweep! I just hope they’ll cooperate. C’mon, Pirates. Help us out just this one more time. C’mon, man. Do us a solid.
Hitter to watch
JOHN BOWKER IS STILL GOING TO DEVELOP INTO AN ABOVE-AVERAGE CORNER OUTFIELDER!
Ahem.
I still believe that. Just me and Mrs. Bowker at this point. But, hey, he’s hitting .294/.313/.607 on the season! Wait, I’m reading that wrong. He’s hitting .250/.294/.313 with a .607 OPS. Whoops.
I’m still pulling for Bowker, though. I’d love for him to rip off a few good years for the Pirates. There isn’t a lot of room in the Pirates’ outfield of Tabata/McCutchen/Jones, though.
Pitcher to watch
In case you missed it:
"Roy Halladay now has an absolute clone on the Pittsburgh Pirates," one rival scout says. "(Charlie) Morton has copied his windup perfectly, from the way he starts to the way he finishes. It’s almost identical."
Which has led to this so far...
ERA good! Peripheral numbers bad! I’m really curious to watch Morton pitch, though -- I want to check if I can see the same thing as that unnamed scout.
Prediction
If the Pirates win the series, they won’t be so cute and cuddly, and I’ll unlike their Facebook page out of spite.
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Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
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Ssory Doc
by 49er16 on Apr 26, 2011 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Okay, so you either don’t play enough to stay the potential hero or don’t-play enough to become the villian.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Gah, my attempt at differentiating “don’t play” and “don’t-play” completely ignored the fact that I ultimately used them to mean the same thing. Stupid editor. What am I paying that guy for?
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally buggering the quote in the process… :(
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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not polite to interrupt a man whilst he’s buggering quotes.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I watched Morton pitch earlier this season
It really is rather uncanny.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
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The side-by-side, split screen comparison I saw was pretty silly.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Pirates should just take their beatings . . .
. . . and then go away.
Is a girl.
by gallo del cielo on Apr 26, 2011 11:46 AM PDT reply actions
Oh, that’s right. Giants are on the road. OK then, we’ll go away.
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by gallo del cielo on Apr 26, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I love the PST game time. Get home, prepare food, make drink, watch game.
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by gallo del cielo on Apr 26, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
He's in there AA bullpen
He’s a mess
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
So that trade worked out for the Giants then?
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I'm on the Twitters
Ssory Doc
Nah, we got some pigeon-toed dude with a club foot.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
that doesn't matter at all IMO
Alderson could have won the NL Cy Young last year and it would have still been a good trade for the Giants. It’s not “who got the best player” it’s whether either (or both) team improved. Cf. Molina for Ray/Main.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT DA GIANTS TRADED FOR AN INJERRED FREE AJENT
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
LET'S GO BUCKS
Wait.
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
The Pirates are always interesting
To look at players who’ll be available by trade in a year or two, or free agency a year or two after that. McCutchen is the one that jumps out, but Alvarez, Tabata, and Walker are interesting as well.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Speaking of the Pirates
On the Baseball Today podcast, Keith Law told a story about how in 2005 the Rays were all set to take Andrew McCutchen with the 8th overall pick. Then the owner or somebody not in Baseball Ops told them they weren’t allowed to take a high school player. They then drafted Wade Townsend who is now pitching in the independent leagues.
He also told a story about Peter Angelos doing the same thing at the last second too.
LOL stupid owners.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Also. Man the 2005 Draft was loaded.
1. Justin Upton, SS, Arizona Diamondbacks (Cheaspeake, Va.)
2. Alex Gordon, 3B, Kansas City Royals (Nebraska)
3. Jeff Clement, C, Seattle Mariners (Southern Cal)
4. Ryan Zimmerman, 3B, Washington Nationals (Virginia)
5. Ryan Braun, 3B, Milwaukee Brewers (Miami)
6. Ricardo Romero, LHP, Toronto Blue Jays (Cal State Fullerton)
7. Troy Tulowitzki, SS, Colorado Rockies (Long Beach State)
8. Wade Townsend, RHP, Tampa Bay Devil Rays (Rice)
9. Mike Pelfrey, RHP, New York Mets (Wichita State)
10. Cameron Maybin, CF, Detroit Tigers (Asheville, N.C.)
11. Andrew McCutchen, CF, Pittsburgh Pirates (Fort Meade, Fla.)
12. Jay Bruce, CF, Cincinnati Reds (Beaumont, Texas)
13. Brandon Snyder, C, Baltimore Orioles (Centreville, Va.)
14. Trevor Crowe, CF, Cleveland Indians (Arizona)
15. Lance Broadway, RHP, Chicago White Sox (Texas Christian)
16. Chris Volstad, RHP, Florida Marlins (Palm Beach Gardens, Fla.)
17. C.J. Henry, SS, New York Yankees (Oklahoma City, Okla.)
18. Cesar Carrillo, RHP, San Diego Padres (Miami)
19. John Mayberry, RF, Texas Rangers (Stanford)
20. Mark Pawelek, LHP, Chicago Cubs (Springville, Utah)
21. Cliff Pennington, SS, Oakland Athletics (Texas A&M)
22. Aaron Thompson, LHP, Florida Marlins (Houston, Texas)
23. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF, Boston Red Sox (Oregon State)
24. Brian Bogusevic, LHP, Houston Astros (Tulane)
25. Matt Garza, RHP, Minnesota Twins (Fresno State)
26. Craig Hansen, RHP, Boston Red Sox (St. John’s)
27. Joey Devine, RHP, Atlanta Braves (North Carolina State)
28. Colby Rasmus, CF, St. Louis Cardinals (Seale, Ala.)
29. Jacob Marceaux, RHP, Florida Marlins (McNeese State)
30. Tyler Greene, SS, St. Louis Cardinals (Georgia Tech)
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Benitez'd
Pick 22 was ours.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Yep
The Giants didn’t pick until the 4th round because of Benitez, and then the combination of Moises Alou, Mike Matheny, and Omar Vizquel. Their first pick ended up being Ben Copeland.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
Ah yes
This was the prime of Sabean’s “MUST GET VETERANS AROUND BONDS” strategy
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> 22. Aaron Thompson, LHP, Florida Marlins (Houston, Texas)
(Pick from San Francisco Giants as compensation for signing of free agent Armando Benitez) via wiki
The Pirates claimed Thompson off of waivers from the Nationals on December 24, 2010.
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
But
They could have had the foresight to draft Jacoby Ellsbury, which just might have saved us all from having to see Aaron Rowand in a Giants uniform. Matt Garza and Colby Rasmus also could have been possibilities, but then again so would have Aaron Thompson.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
and then the Giants
would have not won the WS in 2010
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Not necessarily, Jacoby Ellsbury is a good player and without Aaron Rowand’s dead weight contract maybe the Giants trade for someone better than Guillen.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Going down the "what if draft rabbit hole" usually leads ones head to explode
I think the main point is that it was probably dumb to give up your first 4 picks in a loaded draft for Armando Benitez, Mike Matheny, Vizquel, and Moises Alou
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Personally, I am thankful for our multi-season love affair with Omar and TGWTWS…so all history is pretty through those rose shades.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
But but
BENITEZ?!
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Terrible move.
I’m just of the mindset that they needed the 40 years wandering in Benitez’ desert in order to get to the Promised Land.
/looks at Commemorative World Series Trophy
//smiles
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I don’t really take too much umbrage with anyone on that list except Benitez. Matheny was the epitome of grizzly gameryness and got some big hits, Alou peed on his hands and blessed us with a lifetime of pee jokes and Vizquel is just awesome.
Still point taken that the what if draft rabbit hole can spiral out of control quickly, but for me that was more along the lines of the “What if one of these 10 million things had happened to keep the Giants from getting Aaron Rowand.” game.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I learned today that the pee hands thing is supposed to toughen up your hands to prevent blisters. I was looking it up because I have blisters from BP and I would be lying if I said I didn’t consider it for a second or two.
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My dad said he used to dip his hand in pickle juice to toughen it up and prevent blisters.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
That was another one I saw. Yet another was the rice in a bucket thing used to strengthen forearms. Apparently the friction of the rice is supposed to toughen the skin.
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Wasn’t that a Nolan Ryan commercial?
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by troymccluresf on Apr 26, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I recall Steve Carlton used the rice container exercise to strengthen his arms.
The great thing about baseball is that there's a crisis every day. ~Gabe Paul
It’s pretty common.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I never heard of it having some effect on the skin, I thought it was just for hand/arm muscle development.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be cool if the Giants could trade for Omar at some point this year. It’s too bad he never got to play on a winning team here.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
was just having that conversation with a cow orker.
Trouble is, the AL Central is usually so tight that the Sox rarely wave the white flag – ahem, Kenny Williams rarely waves the white flag.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Omar doesn’t really start that often anymore; if we had roster spots to burn and I thought he could play SS every day I would be more in favor of it.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Jeff Clement at #3?
Pirates traded Jack Wilson and Ian Snell for Clement, Ronny Cedeno, Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock. That’s a lot of nothing being traded around.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
Somebody should do an article about whether or not that was the best draft of all time
Sounds like the kind of thing our overlord would do, if he ever bothered to do something besides running sham contests.
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LOL Mariners
They can’t do anything right. They pick Jeff Clement in a loaded draft.
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters
Ssory Doc
mmmm…. Colby Rasmus.
Imagine Torres, Ross and Rasmus in the OF
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
if we had Torres and Rasmus in CF and RF I’d prefer getting the bat of Huff/Burrell in the lineup in LF.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
good point
if we had drafted Rasmus, instead of giving that pick away, we probably never get Ross…
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
And if we drafted Rasmus, we probably wouldn’t have started the season with a platoon of Bowker and Schierholtz in RF, and are probably a strong enough team that we don’t trade for Jose Guillen, either. By midseason, Burrell-Torres-Rasmus would be pretty firmly entrenched.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Who says Torres would have even been signed as a MiLFA in this scenario?
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MILFA?
does the A stand for Ass?
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LOL!!!!
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I always stand for ass
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was a grade
like that MILF is an A
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So it could also be a
MILFA+ or a MILFD or worse yet a MILFF?
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
that doesn’t work because of the recurring F.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
He was signed as a 4th/5th outfielder out of camp in ’09, and having been there, he looked really fucking good. UZR porn makes a strong case for a bench player.
The bigger question, I think, would have been whether he gets a shot to become the starting CF.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
since when do the Giants NOT take flyers on minor league vets? if they do with Uribe, they do with Torres.
I still believe the Giants should have taken Russell Martin this offseason when he was non-tendered, played him and jacked his value up then traded him for serious prospects.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Where would they put him?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
50 games behind the plate.
Meaning Posey played more games at non-catcher.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
But that means that someone else doesn’t play.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I'm fine with this.
I’m not against giving every day players a full day off a week (in addition to scheduled days off). Especially if it means Posey is better in 6 years, and there’s no Eli Whiteside.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Dodgers were so dumb to dump him
We would have gotten a pretty big haul from Martin, too. The Yanks and Sox both would have been drooling over him. COL too.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if Martin couldn’t have been the main piece in a trade for Lowrie.
Thing A
"Correlation between inability to use the reply button and general crappiness of analysis: pretty high." -Sleepy Freud
This is pretty convoluted thinking
I highly doubt Martin would have wanted to even come to SF if he knew he’s spend more time than not sitting behind Posey. He went to NY because he knew he had a shot at a starting catching job. He wouldn’t have had that shot here.
That said, oh god, Lowrie. Unf.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
When Martin signed, Montero was still supposed to be the starting catcher Opening Day. It wasn’t until mid ST that they decided Montero would be sent down.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
I hope the Giants never do any sort of jacking with SIRM.
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
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May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
This might be the year Alex Gordon finally gets it going
My fantasy team sure hopes so, at least.
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I like the Pirates. They were the first team I followed as a kid.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
They're my dad's favorite team, him being from Pittsburgh
I’d like to see them succeed at some point – just not against the Giants.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The first time I really got into baseball was 1979. I rooted for the Orioles over the Pirates in the World Series because my little league team was the Orioles. All I remember from that series was the name Kiko, Willie Stargell was the man and Kent Tekulve threw funny. Oh, and “We Are Family”.
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My little league team was the Pirates. That was why I followed them in 1991. Then I stayed for 1992 and defected with Bonds in 1993. I have always hated the Braves since they ripped my heart out 3 years in a row.
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If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
That was my little league team, too. But our rivals were still the Dodgers. Smug team, had been the best for years. Insufferable. One of our best moments was when I induced a bases-loaded triple play against them to save a 1 run lead in our last game of the year. Sweet, sweet justice.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I was on the A’s. We came in first place but attendance was spotty.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
LARRY BAER!!
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by satyricrash on Apr 26, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me guess: you also played on a terrible field, in the worst part of town.
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I suppose Shoreview could be considered a less than great part of San Mateo…
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnny Disaster linked to PEDs in mid-1980s!
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL - 1978
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BREAKING: Johnny Disaster now linked to powerhouse East German Olympic teams!
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
THEY NEVER PROVED THAT PEDS DO ANYTHING FOR PERFORMANCE!
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You broke 6 keyboards typing that sentence
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
My Little League team was the Dodgers, so I never had that problem.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
THIS
3 seasons on the Yankees, here.
We even won 3 titles and only lost 2 games.
AND the real Yankees weren’t very good in those days.
So: screw the Yankees.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
My first year we were pretty bad and the Yankees destroyed all comers. Almost all their players came back the next year, but we managed to win the league by a single game in an upset. The last year we steamrolled the league.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
In my little league teams weren’t named after MLB teams, they were just called whatever the sponsor was. I was on Palo Club. We played against teams called Bill’s Auto Glass, Cornish and Carey Realty, and Hengehold Trucking.
WWRWD?
That tradition is actually older than giving teams nicknames
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Chico's Bail Bonds!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Mother Hips!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Our team colors were blue & white, and they decided to base the jerseys on these awful ones: http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?id=ff11pdpjhpphgydr1gjosh4u0
Side note, growling up a Giants fan, when we had to sing “for blue and white we’ll always cheer” I always said “boo.” Because fuck blue & white.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Apr 26, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Lest we forget
They took ALL of Matt Morris’s’s contract.
They passed us Freddy Sanchez, who also participated on a World Series-winning Giants squad.
Actually, those are the only other two major gimmes they did for the Giants, though I know there’s more.
The problem I have with the Pirates, though, is that those fuckers ALWAYS seem to beat the Giants. At least when I pay attention. And it pisses me off.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
AKA
Then the Pirates had this erratic starting pitcher that they wanted to get rid of because he was going to get expensive.
"Man, you just can't beat a good bowl of gumbo." ~ William Nuschler Clark
I came here for the pictures
and Seinfeld references
The Giants fleecing of the Pirates goes back to 1912
We were able to unload “Sawdust” Simmons’ bloated contract and picked up a promising young rookie who went on to greatness; “Barstool” Dilson.
The rest, as they say, was histroy.
The thong is, it happened.
Another reminder of how nicknaming is a lost art
Nowadays we’d just call them Simmy and Dilly.
Anagram of "SF Giants World Series Champs" = SHARP, ORGASMIC, ENDLESS SWIFT
by Stuttering John Tamargo on Apr 26, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I still harbor a bit of a grudge, because they, behind a Barry Bonds home run, beat the Giants 8-5 in the first game I ever attended, on 7/1/1990.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
Plus, Brandon Wood!
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
I'll actually be interested to see him
In all likelihood, he’ll be terrible. But if I were a Pirates fan, I’d be glad my team was taking a chance on a guy like Wood, who has theoretical upside at least.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
There’s really no downside to picking him up. He’s not blocking anyone, as they will probably just slide Alvarez over to 1B, or maybe try Wood at SS. I would like to see him finally turn the switch on in the majors.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
I don’t know how bad Wood is at SS, but it might be worth a shot. Currently, they give most the 1B starts to Overbay or Pearce so they don’t consider Bowker an option I guess.
I'm just a teenage dirtbag, baby.
Apparently they aren’t. For some reason that I can’t quite figure out.
Juan "Doesn't Cheat The Game" Perez, future CF for the World Champion San Francisco Giants.
Wouldn't the Pirates be a really interesting team to run from a hypothetical GM point of view
With no pressure to WIN NOW, or many fans to complain about it, couldn’t you pursue all sorts of anti-mainstream strategies (4 man rotation etc) and weird reclamation projects and see how they work out?
Assuming, of course, you had more than $40m per year budget.
Kevin McClatchy, a Sacramento boy, personally responsible for running franchise into iceberg.
Is a girl.
by gallo del cielo on Apr 26, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair to Kevin (go Sacto alums!), the Good Ship Bucco was well into ice-filled waters and without sufficient lifeboats before Mr. Sacramento/Fresno/LordKnowsWhere Bee came to steer the ship straight ahead. I hear the band played “Nearer, My God, to Thee” at his press conference, although that may only be rumor.
The great thing about baseball is that there's a crisis every day. ~Gabe Paul
I'm still a little mad at them for Rennie Stennett's contract
While peanuts today, 7 years for $7M was big coin in those days.
But Bonds, Schmidt, and Sanchez helped even things up, pretty well, and Morris on top.
And they can thank us for giving up on Correia, else he might not have ended up with them.
Adoptive parental unit of Ehire Adrianza.
Godfather of Travis Ishikawa.
"Be a lot of happy" - Juan Uribe
"We deserve this" Sabean
"Not here to make friends, I'm here to win games" - Bruce Bochy
Q: "This doesn't happen every year." Posey: "Why not?"
"Do it again Baby!" Huff
"Let's get back to work and make another run at it" Posey
2010's will be known as "Decade of the Giants"
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Apr 26, 2011 12:07 PM PDT reply actions
Ooh, good recall, Martin! Yep, the Era of Free Agency got off to a flying start with ex-Pirates Milt May and Rennie Stennett donning the orange and black in exchange for filthy lucre.
The great thing about baseball is that there's a crisis every day. ~Gabe Paul
I also left out something...
Stennett’s deal was really more karma coming back to bite the Giants, it was a Giant who slid into Stennett’s legs and ruined his career, seems only fair that they paid for it ultimately…
But it doesn’t mean I have to be happy about it. :^)
There was also a third guy at the press conference they held for May and Rennie, can’t remember who right now.
Adoptive parental unit of Ehire Adrianza.
Godfather of Travis Ishikawa.
"Be a lot of happy" - Juan Uribe
"We deserve this" Sabean
"Not here to make friends, I'm here to win games" - Bruce Bochy
Q: "This doesn't happen every year." Posey: "Why not?"
"Do it again Baby!" Huff
"Let's get back to work and make another run at it" Posey
2010's will be known as "Decade of the Giants"
by obsessivegiantscompulsive on May 10, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
They don’t wear those anymore!
Brian Sabean strongly encourages you to disregard the drudgery of your employment responsibilities and join him in the consumption of spirituous libations.
by satyricrash on Apr 26, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I still like them.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
But they didn't have pockets
Where were they supposed to keep their watches?
The thong is, it happened.
LOL Broxton
MatthewBerryTMR Matthew Berry
Colletti on KABC says Broxton no longer CL. Kuo (when off DL) Padilla, Broxton CL options-No mention of Jensen (via @joe_block) I’d grab Kuo
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Just be careful where you grab him. He’s a little sensitive.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
crap. I just dropped Jensen.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 26, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Jansen…he’s been horrible.
"There was no torture in the end. Only rapture." - Mike Krukow
2010 Giants: World Series Champs
Neal before Zod!
Official Sponsor of the 1997 San Francisco Giants
by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 26, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Kuo is good but he is always hurt.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I don’t mind stashing guys on the DL, but permanently injured “maybe” closers? My roster spot has better things to do
Mark DeRosa, still existing.
Considering I drafted a retired player as a closer, any saves I get from Kuo will be welcomed.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Billy Wagner? I tried to draft him.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Yep. My plans all fell through and I panicked.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone was pretty cool about it but I was embarrassed because I’m the new guy in the league.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
It was my very first draft! I think people were mystified by my incompetence.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
For best performance, Kuo shouldn’t be used on consecutive days. That makes him somewhat less useful than he would be otherwise.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
The league is kind of weird. You just take everyones’ accumulative performance and you can only do roster moved quarterly.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Thanks
/drops Zito
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
“Barry, you’ve just been dropped. How do you feel, and can you bounce back?”
“Well, dude, I can’t really control the rate of descent or ascent, nor where I land. All I can do is concentrate on the process, and let the results take me where they may.”
The great thing about baseball is that there's a crisis every day. ~Gabe Paul
hmm, maybe I’ll keep Kuo too.
Madsen is finally giving me some saves, too- I didn’t think the Phils would go with Contreras
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Pittsburgh....
I’m jealous of their waterfront ballpark!
/ducks
I actually haven’t been (yet) but it is the only park that I’ve seen ranked ahead of Mays Field with any regularity. Here’s hoping they eventually field a squad up to par with the ballpark.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 12:18 PM PDT reply actions
It is indeed gorgeous. What they do have on us (varying for taste) is instead of the Bay and the Oakland Hills in the background, they have the bulk of Pittsburgh’s skyline right there. It’s pretty awesome. Cool town, too.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Apr 26, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I may be misremembering, but wasn’t the park in San Francisco originally supposed to face the city?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
I recall an early design that had that. I believe that the wind was one reason why they decided to go the other way.
This way works fine, thankfully.
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied, my sex slave, About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
Yes, the arcade was going to give a view of the skyline. Then they ran tests to determine what the wind would be like, and bailed on that plan.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
for some reason, I think the Giants would play better if PNC was on the shores of McCovey Cove. AT&T just kills the hitters at times.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Giants score most of their runs by the longball, and AT&T isn’t exactly conductive to that.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS!
Actually, it is only a bad park if you are lefthanded.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I was under the impression that it was pretty neutral but suppresses home runs (especially for left-handers).
Barry Bonds was pretty good.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Barry Bonds was pretty good.
Meh.
Yeah, the park is dinger neutral except for lefties. It stomps on their nads.
That is why the All Star HR derby was so loltastic!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I sometimes wonder if there something isn’t to the claims that the wind/air pressure knocks down the balls during night games, but I tend to stay pretty faithful to what the park factors report (AKA, exactly what you’ve said).
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
I think the marine layer has alot to do with knocking balls down. If you want to hit a HR at AT&T at night, you gotta hit a line drive, big flys just fall down.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I suspect it has more to do with the prevailing winds swirling around the end of the first base side of the park. When the wind is totally dead the park plays much smaller.
2010 World Series Champions!
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
didnt they do extensive wind studies before building the park? AT&T was supposed to originally face the city, instead of the bay… imagine trying to hit a HR into the wind at a park that big.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like owlcroft
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied, my sex slave, About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
But can you play SS?
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
But can you play SS?
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
But can you play SS?
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m double-posting again, aren’t I? Damn spotty router.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
READ MY BLOG POST
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I will be happy to take your word on that.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Or right handed hitters who have opposite field power (aka Posey)
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
That huge alley in left-center field is pretty brutal, too.
Whens the last time you saw someone hit the ball to left-center, over that corner?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be right-center, chief.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
no, not triples alley. the left-center alley. that’s pretty damn deep
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The prevailing wind goes from rightfield to left. You typically get some carry in that direction.
I guess what I’m saying is that there are park factors that look at all this stuff already. This isn’t opinion that I am pulling from jcb9’s ass. There is data to back this up.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought the wind went from leftfield to right? You sure about that?
I am aware of the existing park factors, but I think they don’t quite account 100% for the change in wind, and day/night
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Positive
Wind blowing towards right would make it a lefty paradise.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
seems to me like the flags are always blowing towards right field.
hmph. You’re probably right.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s pretty standard in most ballparks.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
is it? I only really notice it in SF, COL, and ARI, but COL and ARI have an excuse for that- AT&T is at sea-level and it seems a bit excessive
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You should take a look at left-center in tonight's game.
It is vast.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I will.
Just out of curiousity, how would everyone feel if the Giants eliminated Triples Alley? I always notice opposing fielders try to cover the alley, so they are already 10 steps into right-center catch many line drives that would be doubles in other parks.
So few balls actually go into Triples Alley as it is. (disclaimer: I’m just throwing out thoughts here)
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
The park is perfect. Don’t touch it.
WWRWD?
by SF Pete on Apr 26, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
/gets a tattoo idea
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
What about bringing back Rusty?
Giants 2010 in review: One Jerry Garcia bobblehead, one world championship. Questions?
as an addition to the Coors-Light skeet and target practice area?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I would not be happy..
At all.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Personally, I’m not a huge fan of the alley, but it’s alright- it’s what makes our stadium unique. That, and when Kuip says “AND IT’S OFF ARCHWAY #4” like anyone outside of SF even knows what the fuck that means, lol
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s nothing wrong with field.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Nah
Let’s make the outfield smaller for a flyball/strikeout pitching staff!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
well, technically, if you’ve got a flyball/strikeout pitching staff, you’re gonna want Triples Alley gone, so CF and RF can position themselves straight away, to protect against bloopers, etc down the RF line.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
No
You want a big outfield and lots of range.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
what you want is not always what you get.
more balls go down the RF line for hits than go near triples alley for hits.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
more balls go down the RF line for hits than go near triples alley for hits.
Because teams shade that area of the park.
Which means absolutely dick if what used to be flyball outs in the alley turn into HR.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, right now our park turns right center field home runs into outs/triples. I see no problem with this.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
it also
makes Hot Latin Spider-Man very important to the squad. Get better Andres!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Democracy’s burial place.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
OH WTF
Sony’s PlayStation Network, plagued by problems for days, is being shut down indefinitely, according to the Wall Street Journal.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/26/sony-playstation-network-down-ps3_n_853695.html
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I saw some folks posting youtubes on FB that from the description seemed to be some hackers claiming responsibility?
I don’t have one, so I didn’t click the link….
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn
IGN was down yesterday and amazon cloud was\is down. It is very creepy.. US is about to be involved in 4 wars (Syria anyone?), about to lose our ability to launch satellites into space…. and its just eerie that China developed the ability to shoot down satellites.
/spooked
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on Apr 26, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Blows because I can’t use my PS3 to watch the Giants on MLB.tv
by The Franchise on Apr 26, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
That's my main anger at the whole situation
Along with no Netflix streaming
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Netflix still works. It asks you to sign in, after that it will load the startup screen.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
SWEET
i had just assumed it was down as well
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
nah
I actually started watching Sons of Anarchy because of the downed network since I had time to kill. Cool show
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Bonds, Schmidt, Sanchez, Lopez, the Morris contract
They have mostly been good to us.
But they did fleece us in the Matty Alou trade. Check out his post-trade #s:
by betterthanbochy on Apr 26, 2011 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
Best part of this series:
7:05 start times. WHOOOOOOOO BASEBALL
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
It’s good on this side too, at least for this viewer.
Sad for those folks who must work until 5. Hey, look! A day game on Thursday.
/begins feeling sick . . . .
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by gallo del cielo on Apr 26, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Bah.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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Start times before 9:05PM FTW!
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This
I don’t have to stay up until 1 am to see who won.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Darn, I have class until 7 PM PDT
There's a First for Everything:
Edgar Renteria, The First World Series MVP in Giants History.
Same.
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by Prussian Creole on Apr 26, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a great start time, if it's not raining.
The forecast for the next three days in P’burgh is not good.
by mrs. owlcroft on Apr 26, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t the Pie-rats series messed up with rain delays/rainouts last year too?
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"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
Very old franchise. Classic Uni’s. Mascot that is not annoying. Nice yard. Cool team chemistry gimicks (mustache anyone?). And they never seem to hurt us, so… I like them.
And we do need a get back on our feet series. Smashing them 3 in a row will help offset losing the 3 to ATL.
Time to repeat in '11!
by Myemail21479 on Apr 26, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope the Pirates come back from oblivion someday, as I think it’s better for baseball when the historic franchises are more competitive.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
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"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Will Bowker be the only guy on the Pirates with a ring?
"I don't get out of bed, for a million bucks!"
- Edgar Renteria or a hooker bribing a family man?
Interesting...
David Schoenfield was asked who the three best managers in MLB were currently, named Bochy, Francona and Maddon.
Hmm … good question. I’d probably go Bruce Bochy (his handling of several multi-position platoons last year was excellent), Francona (never seems to make a questionable move, although he obviously has has had a lot of talent to work with) and Joe Maddon.
Ugh...
Followed that up by suggesting that Jose Reyes might be their shortstop in August…
Whose starting shortstop?
I’d be excited to see Reyes as a Giant, the cost of acquisition notwithstanding.
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People keep bringing up Jack Wilson for some reason
He is terrible.
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I shall never invoke his name again.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
If Tejada can manage, like, .1 WAR
He’ll be better. Jack Wilson has played for two years like, and is projected as, no better than a replacement-level player.
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Wilson’s defense is pretty solid though
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Yes
But any defensive benefit is more than cancelled out by the fact that he profiles as one of the worst hitters in the majors.
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The Giants have prospects that can field well and be the worst hitter in the majors!
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
So cut Tejada
and bring up crawford?
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants will not release Tejada
He will be on the roster all season.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
If you think Tejada is bad at the plate
I don’t know if Crawford could break the Mendoza line in the big league’s at this point. Great glove though.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
This is known as the Brian Bocock Theorem.
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I think the Brian Bocock Theorem goes something like this: You know how sometimes you watch a horrible veteran and you say bring up the rookie, he can’t be any worse? Brian Bocock teaches us that yes, he can.
Wouldn’t that be the Bocock Parable?
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Only in this case
Jack Wilson isn’t even a rookie. He’s 33.
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I’d much rather have non-terrible defense, then Tejada.
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
No
You’d rather have the better all around player.
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Yes…I would like to get Stephen Drew but that’s not happening.
I’m in the Jack Wilson over Tejada camp
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Believe me
After 5 or 6 games of watching Wilson at the plate, you would sing a different tune.
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And stop the stupid spotlight after he gets a hit
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
This would not be a problem
Wilson wouldn’t hit.
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Stephen Drew to the Giants would be awesome!
But we’d probably have to give up way too much
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that too
I’d love to get Stephen Drew
but for now I want defense!
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
With the way Tehaha is hitting,
who’s to say Jack Wilson isn’t better?
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I just want the Giants to get a fucking defensive SS. I’m so sick and tired of Tejada in the field.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Runs saved are the same as runs created.
And Wilson gives up much more with his bat than he saves in the field. MUCH.
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Have you seen Meh-guel hit lately?
If Colby Rasmus could catch you would have zero fond memories of Tehahada at the plate thus far this year.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Tejada has been bad so far. But that doesn’t mean that he isn’t projected as the much better hitter going forward.
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His bat looks slow, so I don't care what the projections say.
With a slow bat, he’s pretty much a guess hitter and those guys don’t typically fare too well against decent pitching.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
In all fairness to the Tejada and the rest of the Giants, they haven’t faced bad pitchers yet. Aside from AZ, all the rotations they’ve faced are pretty solid.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Ok, well, if we don't care what the projections say
Fine, let’s get Jack Wilson. He’ll hit like Babe Ruth!
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That's not the point
There are two times in a player’s career when statistical projections mean less than the straw hat opinion. One is when they’re first coming up, the other is when they’re getting much older. Given that Tejada has lost a step in the field. I mean the guy is 37 years old, exactly around the time when some guys realize that their career is over. Currently Tejada is sitting at -0.4 WAR and last year posted a 1.3 WAR even though he spent a good chunk of the year in the hitter’s haven that is Houston. Also, also Tejada has traditionally been a quick starter with a career wOBA in April of .353.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but Giants
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
But this isn't straw hat opinion
It’s YOUR opinion. And you’re basing it on only watching ONE of the two players we’re discussing.
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I've seen Wilson on defense and at the plate this year.
Even if he hits .210 Wilson’s defense is significantly better than Tejada’s and there’s a real chance that Tejada in a full year will hit around .230-.240. And it’s not just my opinion. A number of people including Baggs have commented on how awful Tejada looks, his poor range and decreased bat speed.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Tejada looks bad
But you’re saying that because you’ve watched Tejada, and other people have watched Tejada, and because you’ve watched Wilson a couple times, you know that Wilson would be better.
ZiPS, and objective projection system, has Tejada as the better player. And not just by a small margin. By a LOT.
I’ll take an objective projection system over amateur scouting any day of the week, and twice on Sundays.
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Tejada played in Baltimore and SD last year.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
Thanks
Sorry, not the hitter’s haven that is Houston, the hitter’s haven that is Baltimore.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And, uh
Projection systems take age into account. At least ZiPS does.
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But age related decline isn’t uniform, so theoretically the straw hats will pick up on the signs before there’s enough data for the projection systems to be accurate.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Vizquel will always be one of my favorite players
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope the Giants do something for him when he retires. He was a good Giant
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
And ZiPS is never ever wrong.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
It's right more often than amateur scouting.
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It's not my "amateur" scouting opinion
It’s lots of peoples professional scouting opinion. Also, here’s a look at how projections need to be recalibrated for players in their late 30’s.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tom_verducci/04/26/aging.impact.players/
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
That is not an article about projections need to be recalibrated for players in their late 30s. That is an article about how players in their late 30s tend to be worse than they were before.
Which ZiPS already calibrates for.
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No it doesn't
It uses historical data, much of which is from the late 90’s and 2000’s in which PED use was rampant. Therefore Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa are all part of that data set for 37 year olds. Even still though, it’s a fucking projection, if they were that accurate there’d be no need to actually play the games. Also, also, ZiPS isn’t even the best projection system it’s just the most readily available.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
First., I'll light the beacon

Second, ok, here’s the two sides of the argument:
Me: ZiPS says that Miguel Tejada, while not good, will probably be an OK hitter for a shortstop, and at the very least, he’s better than Jack Wilson, who is legitimately one of the worst hitters in the majors.
You: My eyes say Wilson is better.
Ok, you trust your eyes. I can’t stop you.
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You should fucking listen
Me: I’m not trusting my eyes, everyone from KLaw to Baggs have said that Tejada has lost batspeed. And everyone from fangraphs to SI has reported on how awful he looks in the field
You: I’m not fucking listening, you’re just trusting your eyes, ZiPS is perfect.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, all those people have said Tejada looks worse
But absolutely NONE of them have said that Wilson looks better. No one has said that. Because it’s not true.
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Then how am I trusting my eyes?
The argument was that since I don’t believe Tejada is going to hit, I’d rather have Jack Wilson who at least can field his position well. I don’t expect Wilson to hit either, but 1 out of 2 is better than 0 out of 2. He’s not my first choice, but he would have more OVERALL value than Tejada who I don’t believe—based on reports and yes my own eyes (which are better than most)—is going to hit.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
But the idea that Wilson is the better all-around player than Tejada is not one which is backed up by, well, anything.
Tejada has been the better players over the past three years. The projection systems say that Tejada will be the better all around player.
What are you basing your opinion off of?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjecture
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Ok
So it’s conjecture vs mathematically-based projection system.
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Here's my evidence
Miguel Tejada 2011 slash line:
.205/.241/.315.
Thing is that actually happened, it could be reasoned that the “mathematically based projection system” is conjecture because it is unproven and can’t be proven wrong until the season is over.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Your real fallacy here is that because the projection system uses numbers, it is inherently better. On the aggregate, I’m sure ZiPS is more accurate, but on a single projection the odds are pretty much even-up, especially since ZiPS doesn’t watch the game, and there are more things that happen than go into the scorebook.
It’s a matter of preference, but your hubristic approach to this doesn’t really help persuade anybody.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Your first paragraph doesn't make any sense
If the odds were pretty much even-up on each individual player, then ZiPS would not be more accurate on the aggregate.
If we accept that on the aggregate, ZiPS is more accurate that eyeballs or conjecture, then we must accept that, for any given player, it is more likely that ZiPS is accurate than eyeballs or conjecture.
And I don’t think any argument on the internet has ever persuaded anyone ever.
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Fine, fuck it, forget it
I give up. You win. No mas. Your attentiveness to all things anal has broken me.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
/puts notch on excel spreadsheet
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This is still a fallacy. It is more accurate on the aggregate, but on a given player it is not guaranteed to be more accurate. There are hits and misses across the board, and until season’s end you don’t know which are which. The question is whether you think it will be accurate or not.
When there is broad disagreement with a particular projection based on anecdotal observation by amateurs and professionals alike, it’s worth adding a grain of salt to ZiPS in this case. In the absence of evidence it is more likely to be accurate, but this evaluation isn’t being done in a vacuum at this point.
Either way, the respective parties in this argument are taking a gamble, and unless the smart money is right 100% of the time, you have to bet against it sooner or later. It’s too bad that you fail to understand that.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
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by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It is not GUARANTEED to be more accurate
But it is more likely to be accurate.
So why would we not go with the thing more likely to be accurate?
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As I said, evidence to the contrary, including testimony by professional scouts.
Since you know that ZiPS is sometimes wrong, and you have other sources of information and projection that call its accuracy on this particular projection into question, betting against it is far from insane.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
But this is only looking at one side of the debate
The question is not “Is Miguel Tejada bad”, the question is “Is Miguel Tejada better than Jack Wilson”
All of those scouting opinions you’re asking me to take into account relate to the first question, which I am not trying to debate. No one has brought up any professional scouts who say that Jack Wilson is better than Miguel Tejada.
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As I said, evidence to the contrary, including testimony by professional scouts.
Since you know that ZiPS is sometimes wrong, and you have other sources of information and projection that call its accuracy on this particular projection into question, betting against it is far from insane.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Miguel Tejada in his best of the last 3 seasons—one in which he primarily played 3B—was worth negative 6.8 fielding runs according to FG. Jack Wilson in an average year in the field over the last three years was worth 7.5 runs above average on defense. If Jack Wilson was to post ta wOBA of .262, or his worst over the last three years and Miguel Tejada has indeed lost batspeed as is widely reported, then he will most likely hit like Wilson, but field like Tejada, making him less valuable than Wilson.
That’s what I’m saying, Tejada has lost batspeed, but also makes up for by fielding his position like a senior citizen (a point well-proven without my help), therefore Wilson is a better option than Tejada because at least he can field the position.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The only way to win this
is to not play
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Gritty gameryness?
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously. I stay out of that shit
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I choose to start my own wars over much more minimal things
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Such a Pisces.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
I’m a Sagittarius, thankyouverymuch
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was to rig the game
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
“You can’t produce any definitive evidence that Jack Wilson would be better than Miguel Tejada; therefore, it is not true.”
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Not a reasonable restatement.
How about "You can’t produce any definitive evidence that Jack Wilson would be better than Miguel Tejada; therefore, it is significantly more likely to be so that he wouldn’t than it is that he would."
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I’d rather think about probabilities than projections. Tejada ought to be able to hit enough, just barely, to make it worth keeping him in the lineup despite the fact that he’s clearly not a major-league shortstop anymore. But there’s a nontrivial chance that he’s too old and slow for that, and the early returns aren’t encouraging.
And on the other side, it’s possible that Wilson is better than he’s shown in the last few years. His BABIP has been low, he’s had a very tough park to hit in, he’s had injury problems, etc.
Runs saved are worth more than runs earned. It’s very close, but they aren’t.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
I don’t think it’s too improbable that Wilson’s defensive advantage could outweigh Tejada’s massive offensive contributions.
This
Tehahada’s not hitting, which pretty much makes him worse than replacement level.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Why the fuck is anyone arguing . . .
. . . when both sides have conceded that the difference would be quite small either way? What: change for the sake of change? You don’t make roster moves to go sideways, you make them to take a clear and definite step forward.
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Here is his ZiPS rest-of-season projection
.254/.295/.337
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I keep mentioning him not as someone I want
But someone who Sabean would target
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
You forgot Mole
And his O-face.
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Excited
I get to go to the games tomorrow and thursday…tho rain is ominous. and i have to teach tonight. drat!
by PocketfullofPoseys on Apr 26, 2011 12:42 PM PDT reply actions
Schierholtz available through trade
according to Jerry Crasnick.
Could he and some others bring us a good shortstop?
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 12:43 PM PDT reply actions
Probably not.
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How about a shortstop who can play defense?
Doesn’t matter if he hit’s because Tejada doesn’t do that (SSS I know)
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Tehahada hits
He just hits in to double plays. Ba-dum-dah.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
think
$100k and an org filler guy from AAA.
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by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
@extrabaggs
Andrew Baggarly
He’s off the market, ladies. Got engaged last month. RT @dirtdoct schierholtz available? Can you confirm or clarify the reports coming out?
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Rule 5 marriage
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Rule 5
She has to stay married to him for a full year, or else offer him back for $25K.
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by troymccluresf on Apr 26, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know what it is about this team, but I think there is an unusually high Nice Guy Ratio. Practically everyone is thought of as a very pleasant person on and off the field.
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I would describe Pat Burrell as many things
Pleasant would not be my first or 50th choice.
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Seriously
What did he ever do to you, or your wife/girlfriend for that matter?
Seems like a pleasant enough chap to me. Of course I’d say that about anyone who helped TGWTWS.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I LOVE Pat Burrell
And have had interactions with him out on the town in San Francisco. The word “pleasant” is just not an apt descriptions
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Which is why I wasn’t speaking in absolute terms. I wrote, “practically everyone,” because there are always exceptions.
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Right
Wasn’t calling you out. Just commenting in general.
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In general...
… about one specific player.
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McC nitpicking strikes again!
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I have a soft spot for Pat
he went to the second best Jesuit school in the bay area. That type of thing can bother a man for a long time.
We seem to have a lot of St. Francis alumni here.
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Does it count if I was let go after freshman year?
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy Cross. At the time I had delusions of attending Notre Dame.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
My old man pitched for them in the 50’s.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on. Don’t leave it at that. Stories.
"Career potential: situational lefty." Situation: Ragnarok, bases loaded, Odin at the plate. You know who's getting the call.
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When I casually mention that Nate Schierholtz has like an eight-pack, nobody ever believes me.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Probably b/c he's bald
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Isn't baldness a sign of lots of testosterone?
by mrs. owlcroft on Apr 26, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not too sure about that. But I know baldness is a sign of lack of hair on the head.
by b00f_spl00ge on Apr 26, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that the myth Mr. Owlcroft told you?
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Mr. Owlcroft . . .
. . . is well aware of the reality that God only made so many perfect heads, and then covered all the rest with hair.
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It’s a secondary sexual characteristic in males, so I’d imagine it’s some sort of indicator.
Or some sort of androgens, at least.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Shredder fairly oozed manliness.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
It’s hard to get male-pattern baldness without it, but there are other kinds of baldness, and you don’t need much testosterone. Still, baldness is colloquially associated with virility, and these associations often come from somewhere.
….you tell us.
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OT: Watching Game of Thrones
New series so far:
Camelot: Good
Borgia: Bad
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I know the show is popular among people here, and I know nothing about the author or the series….but the whole incest, gratuitous sex and violence, and sexual themes reek of adolescence to me. I watched the first two episodes and I can’t shake the feeling that the series was penned by an immature author. Just my opinion. Commence blasting.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
..but the whole incest, gratuitous sex and violence, and sexual themes…
Spartacus anyone ?
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Spartacus didn’t have incestuous themes. But yes, it was a really immature, schizophrenic show. They didn’t know whether they wanted to be Rome or 300.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s downright Shakespearean.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Rome was pretty good. The first season was better than the second
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To be fair…it was supposed to be 5 seasons long…HBO cut it so the producers had to truncate the story line
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Yeah, it was super expensive, wasn’t it?
I wish they’d started with the first Triumvirate and saved the assassination of Caesar (SPOILERS!) for season 2.
I was disappointed that he dies in the very first season. I think we quit watching part way through season two.
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I disagree strongly. Second season is different but just as good. I own them both and look forward to a third time through.
Is a girl.
by gallo del cielo on Apr 26, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
They decided to cancel the show after the first season when the ratings weren’t good. But by the time the second season began, it was one of the most popular shows thanks to DVD sales and internet streaming.
And it was expensive as hell. 90 million.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank GOD they didn't do this to The Wire
because the rating for the Wire’s first season were pretty bad
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
But...
Eva Green!
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..

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I would feel even less safe on that airplane.
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
End of Episode 1
Pretty good so far…hard to keep track of the characters and storyline. But it’s the first episode…episode 2 upcoming
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I thought episode 2 was really “meh” compared to episode 1. At least episode 1 had some violence.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I figure a show of this scope is bound to start a little slow. The second episode definitely wasn’t as good as the first, but I think its still setting the table for a pretty stellar first season overall.
FWIW, I haven’t read the books so I have no idea what’s going to happen.
Jose Flores: .831 OPS in High-A last year, 23 years old. This is his year.
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by free f.p. #14 on Apr 26, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Humping and fighting mostly.
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Has the twincest already been mentioned, or does that come later?
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Of course! First episode!
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god i fucking love me some javy lo
Upon Further Review.........
The Bears Still Suck
by smackwaterjack on Apr 26, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
Totally OT, but...
I really hate Lou Seal. I seriously hate everything about that blob. I don’t care for the way it’s always at any celebratory thing for the Giants, trying to make sure it’s right in the shot, I don’t like the “watch me lift and lower my idiotic sunglasses, aren’t I clever?” type nonsense, the atrocious name, the sewer-rat-like appearance, the standard air-hump it does at games…
There isn’t a single thing about Lou Seal I find redeeming. Just saying.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I'm in this line
Bring back the Crazy Crab.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
One could make these complaints about just about any sports mascot.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I’m with you here.
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
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by troymccluresf on Apr 26, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m okay with the absolute removal of mascots from professional sports. I don’t give a crap if the kids like it or not. Lou Seal, and pretty much ALL mascots, suck ass.
But as a Giants fan, Lou gets my rage because he’s the mascot who annoys me the most.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
I don’t get (absent Dinger) any mascot hate, at all. Good for kids. Good for non-baseball fans. Non mascot teams include the Dodgers and Yankees. What more evidence do you need?
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by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Air-humping giant rats
Are shitty mascots, I don’t care how much you want to pretend it’s good for kids. It’s not.
I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
But
There isn’t a single thing about Lou Seal I find redeeming.
He doesn’t follow you home…so there’s that.
The thong is, it happened.
If someone wants to photoshop Lou Seal over this, they'd have my nightmare

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.
Yeah, Lou Seal needs to go
He’s a terrible mascot.
Baseball and mascots don’t mix. The Philly Phanatic is the one exception. He’s awesome.
by Here Be Giants on Apr 26, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
From a fangraphs chat today
Comment From Metfan
What’s the biggest contract you would offer Jose Reyes if you were the Mets? 5 years/$80M? Too high? Too low?
12:35
Jack Moore:
I’d think 5/60. That pays him like a 3 WAR player, which seems fair given his struggles with injuries and the whole thing, and it could really pay off well if he’s as good again as he’s looked to open this season.
Obviously, with the Giants, the question is never “will this player be worth his contract”, but “will signing this player make it impossible to re-sign our home-grown talent?”
That said, I wouldn’t be up in arms if they gave that contract to Reyes in the offseason. Dude is 27 now, he’ll be 28 next year.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I wouldn't like it
I would actually be happier with 3/45 with a couple of mutual options.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
Well, OK. I’d be happier with 5 years, 5 million dollars.
But that’s not what he’ll get paid, and neither is your suggestion, I don’t think.
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Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
I know it probably wouldn't happen
But the point was I’d prefer something shorter paying more per year.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
No Reyes long term
Way too many injuries. Jimmy Rollins part deux
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I’d offer him 3/55. Not a dollar more, and front-load it, too, so it doesn’t hurt the team when it comes time to resign the big boys.
Reyes would then be 31 and probably get his big contract for his final years somewhere else.
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
20 years, $200 million!
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by Murray, Present on Apr 26, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d be a big fan of that contract, but I think it’ll take at least 5/80 to sign him if he stays healthy this year.
Thing A
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or, you sign him to a good deal, find a competent SS and trade Reyes after a year to a desperate team
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
CF Rowand
2B Sanchez
1B Huff
C Posey
3B Sandoval
LF Burrell
RF Ross
SS Tejada
P Cain
"For science. You monster."
Yes, please.
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Giants lose
0 v. -1
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I’d like to see Sandoval bat third
And when Belt turns into an immortal he’ll bat third and Sandoval fifth!
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Ummm....
I’d like to see Posey hit second, with Sandoval hitting 4th and Huff hitting 5th. Of course I would have Burrell lead off.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Rowand/Tejada
Grumble Gruble
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
Leading off with Rowand day after day is a nice test case of whether a player can adjust his game if you put him in a role to which he is ludicrously unsuited. I wish some other team were trying it, though.
I guess they weren’t convinced by the results of the Bengie Molina version of the same experiment.
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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
/facepalm
Rowand and Tehaha in the lineup, plus pitcher. auto 3 outs.
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
LEADOFF HITTER!!
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by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Switch Cain and Rowand.
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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Corporal punishment is frowned upon nowadays.
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by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if there are any Pirates players that I could post way too many pictures of to get a rise out of TheLetter2
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
The Pirates aren’t really known for their lookers. I always thought Matt Diaz was pretty handsome.
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Ryan Doumit doesn't have eyes
The universe just stuck two event horizons on his face.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
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WTF?!

Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
nightmares
That’s like the black oil from X-Files.
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by Murray, Present on Apr 26, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT’S WHERE I RECOGNIZE HIM FROM!
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by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Weather isn't looking good.
"For science. You monster."
Isn't there always a rainout when we play Pittsburgh?
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by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's the hour by hour forecast
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/USPA1290
Looks like it’ll be tough to start on time, but we could start at around 8 and then try to get the game in before rain comes back at 10.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
Anyone else enter in Schulman's twitter contest?
I said 4 hrs 50 minutes.
"For science. You monster."
Late Afternoon: Showers and thunderstorms likely, mainly after 5pm. Some of the storms could be severe. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 81. South wind around 16 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.
bq. Tonight: Showers and thunderstorms likely, mainly before 9pm. Some of the storms could be severe. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 60. South wind between 9 and 11 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.
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Was the question “How much later on average will Schulman break stories this year?”
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
ahem
4 hours 20 minutes.
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 1:07 PM PDT reply actions
reply fail!
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Apr 26, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
A two-hour rain delay would be ok with me
I forgot to set the DVR before leaving for work today.
The thong is, it happened.
ditto!
Well, I thought about setting the DVR. Then I weighed how much of a pain that would be vs. the fact that I could probably not watch them tonight after this weekend.
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Hmmm
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Henry Schulman
PNC Park > AT&T. Every seat a great view. Wide concourses. RT @jarthur47: I took a ballpark tour once. PNC was next best after AT&T/PacBell
"For science. You monster."
He forgot that PNC is in Pitts and AT&T is in SF
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Does that make it better or worse though? In San Francisco there’s lots of great things to look at and see, in Pittsburgh, well, there’s PNC Park, it’s kind of like an oasis.
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by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
but you’re still in Pittsburgh.
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Pittsburgh isn't that bad anymore, from what I hear.
Of course, all of this is based off of hearsay and the Apatow knockoff movie “She’s Out of My League.”
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by Murray, Present on Apr 26, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Pitt really isn’t that bad
Thing A
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clearly you missed the last thread
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After getting to Wrigley next month
PNC will probably be at the top of my list of parks to see (along with Safeco)
The thong is, it happened.
I’ve always wanted to visit PNC. I feel bad for those fans that they’ve never had the chance to pack that ballpark during a pennant race.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
me too
I just have no idea why I’d ever need to be in or near Pittsburgh. I imagine I’ll make it to MIL and CHI long before I get around to PIT. I’d probably make an MiLB tour first.
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"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Only a fat ass like him would enjoy wide concourses.
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters
Ssory Doc
little over the line, dude.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF WHERE THE LINE IS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
THATS NOT WHAT YOUR BOSS SAID
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
FATASS!!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
WHICH IS ME, THEREBY WHY I SAID THAT
/comes full circle
I win.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU MEAN THIS DREAM ISN'T REALITY?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL GIANTS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:08 PM PDT reply actions
OT: Sony Comes Clean: PlayStation Network Hackers Have Stolen Personal Data
http://kotaku.com/#!5795913
"For science. You monster."
LOL GAMERS
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
time to change card numbers
I’m overdue on that anyway
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
" If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained," he wrote.
"For science. You monster."
I think every bit of my personal information has been compromised anyway
From either facebook, intrusions into Visa/BOA/Mastercard personal info, the UC Regents intrusion that compromised thousands of SS numbers, and then this.
Fuck it.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
that’s rather ingenious, actually. if you’re an identity theif, you just got access to a bank of identities.
good thing I’m not a gamer, but I know 100 people that are
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL CORN
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
That corn is so delicious
That you need to wear goggles when you eat it!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually like that song
and then I saw him in Reno and he got booed off the stage. Plus he was an hour late!
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
He was absolutely horrendous
plus he was late
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather see Skee-Lo.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
They even cut cut his microphone in the middle of the song
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Rap isn’t meant for live performance anymore. It’s a studio thang now
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
The days of Biggie are long gone
he was amazing live
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The days of good rappers are better much gone
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Young Money is the worst thing to happen to rap
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It all went down hill after Blondie.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
RUN DMC
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Now with more Steven Tyler!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
PUBLIC ENEMY!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I mark the apex at the Anthrax/Public Enemy collaboration.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Gangster Rap killed rap.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Not initially
But (IMO) rap went downhill shortly after gangster rap took over the airwaves in the early 90s.
Wise words by wcw: "Nobody cares about your Pokemon."
"There’s a new celebrity inside the organization, and it’s a three-foot inanimate object," - Larry Baer, my adopted son.
Yeah
Cee-Lo is more of the 60’s profanity laced Motown hits, which is why I really enjoy his stuff. But that concert was just like any other new rapper’s concert, shitty
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Mainstream rap is all about the lifestyle and not the music. That’s why I prefer, among my rather limited rap collection, stuff like Mos Def and Talib Kweli.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Atmosphere is pretty good live.
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I heard. Unfortunately I have an irrational policy of never seeing Rap music live.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
If you ever get the chance, go to one of there shows
Completely worth it
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Atmosphere is at the Greek in Berkeley I think May 6th.
by b00f_spl00ge on Apr 26, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember hearing something like this.
My boy Joe Staley plays lineman on Sundays.
"I will never apologize for watching Bonds dominate" – Duane Kuiper
by Soulbrother16 on Apr 26, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I mostly listen to Dead Prez, even though I get the feeling that they hate me.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
Blackstar FTW!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Dave Chappelle's boys!
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Chapelle Show was where I first heard of them. Too bad they only did that one album. Plus that Beef song they did on the show wasn’t on the album.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Same here.
And they pulled a lot of their songs from before they united
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that album came out like 5 years before Chappelle even had a show. Kind of funny Solidarity mentioned Mos Def and Talib Kweli because I’ve been listening to it a lot lately. That and Jurassic 5.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Man all that stuff is just good.
The days before auto-tune
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Cee-Lo?
Needs more Kiki Dee.
Proud member of the cesspool of ethical bankruptcy known as the McC.
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Playstations
"Campeones." - Andres Torres
Please follow my Twitter
by Murray, Present on Apr 26, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
My dad’s favorite championship team before the Giants last season was the 79 Pirates.
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters
Ssory Doc
I liked when the Royals made the Cards cry
And made Andujar lose his shit.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This
Never fuck with Will Clark
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters
Ssory Doc
by 49er16 on Apr 26, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn
Any word the game will be delayed?
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters
Ssory Doc
Don't think so
Not yet at least. Scroll up for forecasts, it ain’t lookin’ good.
"For science. You monster."
LOL EAST COAST WEATHER BIAS
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
MATT CAIN!!!!!1
Jonathan Sanchez: Often maddening to watch, but capable of perfection on a moment's notice---just like his adoptive father.
haha Padres
One scout on the Padres, a team that has scored fewer runs all season (68) than the Cardinals scored on one road trip (73): “You know in football they’ve got the prevent defense? They’ve got a prevent offense. They can’t score.”
LOL PADRES
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Look
Out
Landing!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 1:34 PM PDT reply actions
Anyone think the Giants will start Cain
why not start Vogelsong, since you don’t know when the game will start and how many rain delays there will be…
I don’t want to see him start, then a 2 hour delay, then he doesn’t go back out.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
Vogelsong is slated to start Thursday’s game.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Cain. You sway ‘em, so you don’t ruin Cain’s start
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
*swap
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, wait. my bad.
so you’d go
Tuesday- Vogelsong
Wed- Cain
Thurs- Bum
and then Fri is Lincecum, and the rotation starts over.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember that time Merkin Valdez started instead of Lincecum?
Also, remember that time Merkin Valdez was a prospect?
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
100 what?
The Golden Bear is ever watching
2011 Giants Adoptee: Brian Lawrence
San Francisco Giants Won the 2010 World Series: Not a Typo
Anything other than a strike
(315) SF Giants and NY Jets
Giants baseball: TORTURE
...and the home of the... JETS!
by GiantsfaninNY55 on Apr 26, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Why wouldn’t he go back out after a rain delay? There’s totally precedent.
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
(To be clear: Not good precedent.)
Currently stifling the bacon, the world.
by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
CSNAuthentic Comcast SportsNet
Mychael Urban says NOW would be a good time for the Giants to get their act together http://4rd.ca/aaafLu #SFGiants #NLWest
davidtiao
@CSNAuthentic is there ever not a good time for that? True insider knowledge there
CSNAuthentic Comcast SportsNet
@davidtiao – well, considering the teams they are playing, the point can be made…right?
davidtiao David Tiao
@CSNAuthentic I am just trying to figure out when would not be a good time for the giants to not get their act together :p
CSNAuthentic Comcast SportsNet
@davidtiao – We see your point. But this roadtrip presents a specific opportunity— capiche?
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
by jctGamer on Apr 26, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
He should answer ‘capisco’ and see if it confuses them.
2010 World Series Champions!
Adopted 'nephew' to the ever avuncular and always awesome Jon Miller
by Johnny Disaster on Apr 26, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
If you are davidtiao you pretty much have to see how far you can string them along.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I decided to just let it slide at that point and not turn this into a twitter war over a trolling tweet. I think I got what I wanted.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
lol...that's you?
"Quiet you, I'm starting a meme." - Me
"Ask Viliphied, my sex slave, About My Penis" - Alex Lewis
Proud papa to: Bill Schlough, Senior Vice President and Chief Information Officer, aka the IT guy.
yarr
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
really? hahaha
You know Urbs is reading this blog right now, too
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure he is
Just as I’m sure he read my fanpost from last year killing him for making up bullshit sources to show how much of an insider he is.
I don’t have a problem with him. He seems like a decent enough guy. I have problem with guys on TV feeling important and claim they have sources that are completely bogus because it misleads us readers. A little journalistic integrity, please.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
on the radio
I think I remember Urban actually saying on-air something like “they don’t want me around there” in regard to MCC, no?
I do agree, his sources were either bullshit, or threw him under the bus when it all fell through.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
like many other radio/TV personalities
a few weeks of Byrnes has made me nostalgic for his radio presence.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
"Hey Skip, should we get our act together now?"
“No, that’s just what they’re expecting us to do. We’ll wait…oh yes, we’ll wait.”
The thong is, it happened.
"if we are unprepared"
“they will not be prepared for our unpreparedness and we’ll have them right where we want them”
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
So Vogelsong is pitching thursday right? Pushing Timmy to Friday.
Which means Vogelsong will pitch the first game of the Mets series.
Which means I WILL SEE TIMMY PITCH IN NEW YORK NEXT WEDNESDAY!!!!!
Adoptive father of 18th round draft pick and future ace, BRANDON ALLEN
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Apr 26, 2011 1:38 PM PDT reply actions
CarGo was benched today
He’s hitting .217/.272/.289 so far.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
LOL CONTRACT
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL 1ST PICK IN POKEMON DRAFT
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Well, well, well
I guess there was something to those home/road splits. I love being right.
Proud member of the cesspool of ethical bankruptcy known as the McC.
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It wasn't so much the home road thing that bothered me
Since, after all, he still gets to play half his games in Coors.
I was more concerned by the combination of high-K, low-BB.
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
he was always a hacker. pitchers have now adjusted to him.
he could possibly have a very rough year, even worse than Sandovals 2010
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Read this
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2010/8/8/1611852/carlos-gonzalez-a-god-on-a-mountain
One of the best fanposts I’ve ever read.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
by jctGamer on Apr 26, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are awesome for bringing that here in the first place. I’ve definitely used it in arguments elsewhere since. The physics stuff is fascinating.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
mmm, I’ve read that before. Good article, backed by good logic.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Jose Lopez OPS Watch!
.452
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow that's awful
LOLORADO BEST TEAM IN BASEBALL!!!
Proud member of the cesspool of ethical bankruptcy known as the McC.
Proud adoptive parent of Brett Bochy, he's my boy now Bruce!
by Giant Torture on Apr 26, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
*clears throat*

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I think it was .920.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
yeah but this is on base + on base + on base + slugging!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Please bring back Ian Stewart.
I’m playing Felipe Lopez at 3B.
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
who was it that said he’d have a .900 OPS?
RoxGirl?
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It was her, I believe.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
MOAR LYK ROX GIRLOL
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
Here I mention SSS and proceed to ignore it
Really it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone that he regressed. Frankly I’m not sure what the Rockies were thinking locking him up for that long (and without a discount, no less).
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
*clears throat*

Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
by jctGamer on Apr 26, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
oh, this makes me happy.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
That's What She Said
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
That's What He Said
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL WATER BUFFALO
@JohnSheaHey
John Shea
All-Star ballots have been released, and #SFGiants first baseman is Brandon Belt. Three OFs: Burrell, Torres and . . . Huff.
"For science. You monster."
I want to see him elected as an outfielder.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Too bad he's hitting like a back-up catcher
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
OT: Arts and Farts and Crafts
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tinkering_studio/sets/72157626359200567/with/5613296629/
Scott Weaver’s amazing piece, made with over 100,000 toothpicks over the course of 35 years, is a depiction of San Francisco, with multiple ball runs that allow you to go on “tours” of different parts of the city. It will be on display in the Tinkering Studio until the end of June!
Note the pictures of AT&T Park and the Commissioner’s trophy.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Wonderful.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
"…multiple ball runs…"
"Mow bwiefings?" "More briefings."
Is there any way Posey is NOT an All-Star this year?
Brandon Crawford: Your SF Giants 2012 Opening Day starting SS?
DONT JINX IT
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
in balloting.
sssh
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He probably will be
But McCann may start over him
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be a little bit surprised if that happened
McCann’s never started an All-Star Game; he’s been underrated his whole career.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Bork will be the manager, remember. He’ll be starting his Posey
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Fan ballot determines starter
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
oy
did not know that
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Bruce Bochy needs to take Huff over Howard at 1B
Because, well, “he’s my guy”
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
This.
Bork needs to load the team with Giants. Wait, nevermind, we want to win the ASG…. ;)
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Bochy needs to make the best team possible
Who cares if our guys are all stars?
Gigante. Campeón. Pumpkin. Andrés Torres.
Dursh nerf darsh narf. Poop.
What is love
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Babby don't hurt me
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Yes
If he has subpar numbers to McCann, Ruiz and Molina.
by Sabean_Is_Iago on Apr 26, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he makes it
He’s got actually gotten a lot of national hype for a West Coast player
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
I think every single baseball fan knows exactly who Posey is and how good he is.
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I got an orange Posey shirt for Easter!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Are oranges even in season for Easter?
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Chocolate oranges are always in season.
My son, so I'm told. And this stalwart young lad (Hi, free f.p. #14!).
I think you have been taken. Should have held out for orange(s) to be named later.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
I have never had a blood orange.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
The ones you get in California are almost always subpar, more’s the pity. But next time you are in Switzerland in midwinter, go to the nearest Migros and get a liter of organic, fresh-squeezed blood orange juice.
Fuck that. I’ll ask for a gallon. This is America.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Or ordinary German to those who speak Swiss-German!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
are they more susceptible to freezing in transit, or what?
Blood oranges here are almost inedibly bad.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe the tasty varieties bruise very easily. The more flavorful ones likely also yield worse. On top of that, I believe the weather and soil here are both too nice.
I dunno about growing them, they seem to be mostly imported.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Oranges are for Christmas!
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
so did I!!
well, actually I put my Posey jersey in the microwave with oranges and Cheese Its…
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Except for those based in Atlanta and St. Louis.
JAIME WUZ ROBBED!
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
Cardinals didn’t make the playoffs last year; I wouldn’t be surprised to see Yadier get elected again, but because local voting is such a huge part of this, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a big push for Posey this year after the Great Panda Chase of 2009.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
I remember this
IF WE VOTE FOR PABLO THEN YOU GUYS HAVE TO VOTE FOR KINSLER
"For science. You monster."
Yes but the Giants Won the World Series
So Bruce Bochy picks 5 guys.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I think Posey goes either way, but it would be nice if he got elected instead of taking him as a reserve.
Taking Posey to give him a taste of superstardom would be a very wily-old-Bochy sort of thing to do if he doesn’t get in through the fan vote.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
LOLineup
SFGiants San Francisco Giants
Tonight’s lineup in PIT: CF Rowand, 2B Sanchez, 1B Huff, C Posey, 3B Sandoval, LF Burrell, RF Ross, SS Tejada, P Cain #SFGiants
Adopted Giant: William VanLandingham
I'm on the Twitters
Ssory Doc
Baseball Please.
@hankschulman
Henry Schulman
Tarp is still on the field, but it hasn’t rained in a while.
"For science. You monster."
The A's would feel rght at home
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
Overstock.com Colosseum you mean!
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Overstock of seats.com
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
Ha!
I have Croix de Candlesticks older than you.
goldengatebeerbars.com
by troymccluresf on Apr 26, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
LOLARS
Don't think he can cut it in the bigs? Brock Bond will be the bigger man and walk walk walk away.
AH yeah Fry's Electronics
Where the Women are hot and the CPUs are hotter!
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
Kudos, You are a sick, sick man, but you are very good at it -- wcw
I hate when my computer overheats.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
Laptop heat vents on the bottom of the laptop!
So you can never use it on your lap.
That is just some design guy fucking with all of us.
Dearest, Susan - The Patron Saint of Patience
by Lars The Wanderer on Apr 26, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Where it takes 5 minutes to find what you want and 25 minutes to find someone to help you!
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Do they sell a machine capable of measuring the time it takes to process a return?
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but you won’t find anyone to get it out of the glass case for you.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Your best burns are always at jhiat00’s. Guaranteed.
"Lee pitches...Renteria hits a high drive, deep left-center field, David Murphy going back, he's on the warning track—it is...go-one!"
LOL Dodgers dissension
MatthewBerryTMR Matthew Berry
Stay tuned. This gets weirder by the moment. RT @dylanohernandez Broxton was told by Mattingly that he is still the #Dodgers’ closer.
Quote from my adopted son Mike Krukow: "We're the Giants. We're San Francisco. And we're World Series Champions!"
lulz
DodgersGM
Broxton out as closer. It’s closer by committee. Committee consists of Broxton. There is no committee. I don’t think I could be any clearer.
"That’s the sort of pitch that Lincecum throws several times a game — the sort of pitch that made Satchel Paige say: 'I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain’t been seen by this generation.' Lincecum threw 10 or 15 generation pitches on Thursday." -Joe Posnanski
Et tu, Ribe?
“yer out”
“we’ll use a committee”
“you’re the only one in the committee”
“go get em, son!!”
The only people for me are the mad ones. The ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars. ~Inspire Me
by giant4life83 on Apr 26, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
In conversation about Frederic Chopin, I mentioned that I liked some of his military polonaises. And then I said I liked polonaise better when it’s on a turkey club. Our classical hosts were not amused.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
You should have told them you wanted to do a piece entitled ‘Baroque Obama’.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
Update
Our morning classical host loved it. She issued quite the guffaw.
LIVE EDT
Tape-delayed for the West Coast
Heh, hope it got you back on their good side.
Proud parent of SD-born Shane Loux.
If Cain is with us, who can be against us? - atxgiantsfan
That line is Stephen Colbert-worthy.
May 29, 2010: Steven Revetria becomes Giants General Manager. The rest is history.
"118 elements, and still no stanfurdium"- carp, paraphrased
"I stick to my strengths as opposed to going after everyone’s weaknesses. If you can hit it, come hit it."- Tim Lincecum
by natteringnabob on Apr 26, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If you like polonaise so much you should put it on your chopin liszt.
by non sequitur on Apr 26, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ever seen . . .
. . . “The Abduction of Figaro”? It’s quite a hoot. I don’t know if it’s available anywhere.
Professional baseball analyst since 1980.
Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehn.—Goethe

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